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| 00:03.20 | jimbeamup | anyone? |
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| 00:05.29 | iflema | faster backbone up the middle |
| 00:05.40 | petn-randall | jimbeamup: What is your current environment where you want to improve upon? Usually throughput and latency are on the opposite ends of the optimization scale. |
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| 00:07.14 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: either. got multiple logical cpus on 8/16. what do i need to read up further for rx/tx steering? |
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| 00:08.13 | jimbeamup | at this point, it's more of a evalulation petn-randall. will do some `iperf` jerking around and see if we get anything better than current |
| 00:08.19 | jimbeamup | (current throughput) |
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| 00:08.59 | jimbeamup | oh and ixgbe |
| 00:09.19 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: ^ |
| 00:09.29 | petn-randall | jimbeamup: I don't know what you mean with rx/tx steering. |
| 00:09.32 | jimbeamup | iflema: :D |
| 00:09.57 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: disregard. mumbo jumbo probably |
| 00:10.11 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: you got ref to doco somewhere i can readup? |
| 00:10.36 | petn-randall | jimbeamup: So you have a router? Gb/s Ethernet? |
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| 00:10.58 | petn-randall | jimbeamup: I don't know what machines are involved and what you want to do in your network. |
| 00:11.40 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: it's on aws and testing is EC2 instance 0 <-> EC2 instance 1. no router in between. |
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| 00:13.43 | klow | Heya .. somehow I lost my Windows 10 grub entry in my debian dual boot situation, os-prober finds Win10 , but update-grub doesn't find it or add it back to grub menu. Any suggestinos on how to restore windows to grub so I can boot into it? |
| 00:13.44 | klow | thanks |
| 00:13.55 | petn-randall | jimbeamup: Then routing speed is determined by AWS, I don't think you have much control over this. |
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| 00:15.25 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: let's take aws out of the equation |
| 00:15.41 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: any suggesstion? i have few stuffs over in the valley dc |
| 00:15.53 | jimbeamup | s/stuffs/servers/ |
| 00:16.22 | iflema | klow are windows and linux on seperate drives or split up on partitions? |
| 00:16.37 | jimbeamup | petn-randall: do you know a ref or not. stop the circle jerk man |
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| 00:17.24 | petn-randall | jimbeamup: No need to go ad-hominem in here. |
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| 00:33.34 | castleguard | Hey, I got xorg and dwm downloaded and "installed" (not sure what that means for dwm) is there a page that I can look at that would help me understand how to use these guys together, starting from the command prompt? |
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| 00:35.53 | awwal | castelguard, you installed 'dwm' and you don't know what is/how to use it? |
| 00:36.09 | iflema | if you have a login manager you could select it there or create a ~/.xinitrc file and add exec dwm then startx provided xinit is istalled. |
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| 00:36.51 | awwal | castelguard, looks like you are not familiar with gnu-linux, regarding your question |
| 00:36.51 | iflema | id say i3 dmenu urxvt you have to recompile to chage dwm iirc |
| 00:37.15 | annadane | awwal, not helpful |
| 00:37.22 | awwal | try installing some task-desktop |
| 00:37.31 | castleguard | awwal, I know what it is, I don't write C, when I did apt-get install dwm it worked, which is nuts, but more importantly, I don't know how X server is supposed to work, etc. |
| 00:38.06 | castleguard | awwal, also when I tried to do apt-get source dwm it gave me a bunch of stuff but didn't create a subdirectory for me. |
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| 00:38.31 | awwal | just point startx to dwm in xinitrc or xsession |
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| 00:38.49 | awwal | I never used dwm, no much clue about it |
| 00:38.56 | Tarrasquero | exec dwm |
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| 00:39.05 | Tarrasquero | xinitrc |
| 00:39.35 | awwal | i suggest .xsession, since it is read by both startx and DM's |
| 00:39.36 | iflema | i3 i3lock i3status dmenu urxvt |
| 00:39.58 | Tarrasquero | *awesome* |
| 00:40.40 | awwal | .xsessionrc, i meant |
| 00:42.34 | iflema | it aint |
| 00:43.02 | castleguard | awwal, iflema, Yeah, I don't know anything about linux, so I need the tutorial page if there is one that will let me do like a tutorial on x server and dwm... fwiw I just typed startx and it worked, but I don't have ~/.xinit ... I don't know if I'm using systemd or openrc or what, either, as I wasn't prompted anything about them during installation |
| 00:43.35 | castleguard | iflema, recompiling isn't a big deal, each user can do it themselves if they want, apparently. |
| 00:43.42 | mnuhmnuh | castleguard: you should join #debian-offtopic, and we'd be more than happy to udumacate you in there. :-) have fun. |
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| 00:44.07 | iflema | castleguard: not a big deal but if your stuck here youll probably get stuck there |
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| 00:44.33 | castleguard | I just want a tutorial page recommendation if something like that exists. |
| 00:44.34 | iflema | edit a text file easy |
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| 00:45.13 | mnuhmnuh | castleguard: *nix is deep. trust me. |
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| 00:46.45 | iflema | castleguard: https://wiki.debian.org/Dwm |
| 00:46.52 | iflema | deep as... |
| 00:47.05 | iflema | full of mystery |
| 00:47.27 | awwal | xsessionrc or xsession or xinitrc, all does the job. casteleguard, what says update-alternatives --display x-session-manager |
| 00:47.34 | awwal | and x-window-manager |
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| 00:54.10 | mnuhmnuh | iflema: spend a few years writing scripts in MS-DOS, then meeting bourne shell & etc., ... it gets deep.. *nix is way "blow the doors off" better than MS' !@#$., imho. |
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| 01:01.16 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 01:02.21 | zro | ok, so i blasted my system with a apt-get dist-upgrade... cant I use the infomration in the apt history.log to restore to what i had going on before? |
| 01:02.59 | zepperoni | nina PE is kicking my ass omggg |
| 01:03.02 | zepperoni | ;-; |
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| 01:03.44 | castleguard | iflema, got the info on making the .xinitrc ty. ... awwal, reviewing the --display x-session-manager now. ... says no alternatives for x-session-manager |
| 01:05.18 | somiaj | castleguard: be careful in debian, you may want to use ~/.xsession of ~/.xinitrc |
| 01:05.22 | somiaj | !xsession |
| 01:05.22 | dpkg | Debian uses ~/.xsession for startx(1) as well as *most* Display Manager logins. See https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession |
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| 01:09.21 | castleguard | alrighty, I'll start by reading those pages carefully. One thing, though, is that I've added my main user to sudo, yet he can't use sudo... says command not found |
| 01:09.31 | castleguard | nor can root, but that makes sense. |
| 01:10.15 | castleguard | if I go into my main user and type groups, it shows sudo in the list |
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| 01:11.06 | annadane | raynold, please stop that |
| 01:11.22 | annadane | some people only check the channel when there's activity |
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| 01:12.06 | castleguard | nvm - I had to actually install sudo, crazy :) |
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| 01:14.55 | raynold | stop what? |
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| 01:20.06 | mnuhmnuh | zro: er, wut? your dist-upgrade didn't work, i assume. please post your "don't work" proof to paste.debian.net? |
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| 01:22.03 | zro | mnuhmnuh: http://sprunge.us/ebXb |
| 01:22.33 | zro | mnuhmnuh: http://sprunge.us/CgKJ |
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| 01:24.21 | woodoo | hi |
| 01:25.56 | mnuhmnuh | zro: it's complaining about kernel 3.16 -- OLD! ya know? OLD! |
| 01:27.02 | zro | fair. all i know is i did something stupid. and now i cant use apt-get and i cant start x an i think i accidentally purged a bunch of shit and now im crying in the corner like a broken noob |
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| 01:29.54 | t0no6a | zro : lol |
| 01:30.08 | zro | dont laugh at my pain, this sux |
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| 01:31.24 | zro | and somethings borked with perl and i cant even use vim, so im stuck in fing nano.... ! |
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| 01:33.40 | Guest57032 | Debian 9 newbie here who just wants to boot to an old fashioned command line instead of gnome but can't seem to make it happen. Help? |
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| 01:34.29 | mnuhmnuh | zro: i'm running buster/testing, kernel == 4.13.4-2. your box hasn't been updated for a long time. of course, you're going to be suffering problems. fact of life. |
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| 01:36.46 | mnuhmnuh | zro: it can be fixed. update carefully, from your distro though the others until it's at stretch/stable, then keep it updated ... |
| 01:36.49 | allizom | Guest57032: # systemctl set-default multi-user.target |
| 01:37.29 | mnuhmnuh | through |
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| 01:38.09 | zro | whatchu think about this mnuhmnuh ? http://sprunge.us/bBVj |
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| 01:39.43 | zro | i did this: http://sprunge.us/BeLD |
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| 01:43.11 | mnuhmnuh | zro: the first was ugly as hell, the second irrelevant looking pretty code. your point? |
| 01:43.35 | zro | i have no point. im just trying to not have a fucked system and undo whatever i fucking did |
| 01:43.41 | mnuhmnuh | zro: paste.debian.net pls? |
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| 01:43.49 | zro | im stuck in a terminal |
| 01:43.53 | zro | i cant start x |
| 01:44.23 | rrrr | having a terminal is good |
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| 01:44.55 | zro | better than nothing |
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| 01:45.22 | zro | i tried to parse the apt history.log for the dist-upgrade i did and reverse it, thats what i pasted |
| 01:45.27 | zro | it doesnt seem to work tho |
| 01:45.59 | rrrr | ouch, sounds brave |
| 01:46.05 | zro | im desperate here |
| 01:46.19 | zro | i get a lot of "version not found errors tho" |
| 01:47.13 | rrrr | i think the official statement is that there is no easy way back after an dist-upgrade |
| 01:47.24 | zro | i gather that |
| 01:47.33 | mnuhmnuh | zro: i suspect you're running an ancient version (wheezy?) of debian and attempting to support it somehow. yes? it can be done. we can help you. |
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| 01:48.08 | rrrr | stretch is pretty good though, you could give it a try |
| 01:48.37 | zro | my ystem is long overdue for a lcean install, but my backups are out of date, and ive got deadlines |
| 01:49.30 | mnuhmnuh | zro: send a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.debian.net, and report back the url. tx. |
| 01:49.31 | zro | i think this system was wheezy, but i changed my sources.lst to jessie some time ago, and was going fine, then i probably did some stupid shit at some point and i dunno.... i did dist-upgrade for some unknown reason, and now im blasted |
| 01:50.07 | zro | can i post to paste.debian w/ curl? |
| 01:50.25 | zro | i can sprunge paste w curl. http://sprunge.us/HIXJ |
| 01:51.14 | zro | mnuhmnuh: ^ |
| 01:52.27 | zro | maybe i should just go die in a hole of noobs |
| 01:52.45 | mnuhmnuh | being blasted is no offence against gawds i'm partial to. i've lots of time to spare. |
| 01:53.31 | rrrr | no, but creating a frankendebian (wheezy with jessie repository) and then dist-upgrading it is calling for problems |
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| 01:54.06 | zro | oh ya. i did something stupid, no doubt |
| 01:54.15 | Guest57032 | allizom: will try that. I've edited /etc/X11/default-display-manager to be blank, now gnome doesn't load but I'm hung at a blinking cursor. |
| 01:54.18 | zro | i wasnt thinking |
| 01:54.42 | mnuhmnuh | rrrr: hence my request to post their resources.list. |
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| 01:55.53 | zro | this is my history.log if thats of any help.... its that dist-upgrade from today that set my world ablaze.... http://sprunge.us/CdAJ |
| 01:56.16 | mnuhmnuh | ya never know, it may be fixable. if not, ipdate to fixable. if not, re-install. |
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| 01:56.57 | zro | well, I've exhaussted any bright ideas I could come up w |
| 01:57.38 | zro | what should i do? s/jessie/stretch/ in sourcees.lst and try and do something? i really have no idea wut I did, so I'm just fumbling in the dark |
| 01:57.57 | Guest57032 | Looks like I'm re-installing too, just to a vm though. |
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| 01:58.15 | zro | if i apt-get install -f its trying to remove my kernal and i have no idea wtf thats about |
| 01:58.37 | allizom | Guest57032: can you switch to a tty? Ctrl+Alt+X (X being 1-6) |
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| 02:00.03 | mnuhmnuh | zro: your pastes to sprunge look like trash; ugly, unreadable. ick. paste.debian.net please. |
| 02:00.44 | Guest57032 | allizom: nope, it's a hard hang |
| 02:01.05 | zro | mnuhmnuh: can you tell me how to do that on the cli? |
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| 02:02.02 | mnuhmnuh | zro: yeah, your web browser, point to paste.debian.net, ... |
| 02:02.41 | mnuhmnuh | w3m is a web browser, command line usable. |
| 02:02.51 | mnuhmnuh | lynx. |
| 02:03.02 | zro | mnuhmnuh: is this any better? http://sprunge.us/CdAJ?sh |
| 02:03.02 | allizom | Guest57032: I don't know how important the system is to you. Howewer, restoring that file to its original state should help. You can reboot and use a GRUB option to boot into the shell |
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| 02:06.12 | mnuhmnuh | zro: yes, much more readable; every op reports failed. old box needs to be updated, methinks; your biggest prob. |
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| 02:07.20 | zro | sooooo? are you saying its fatal, doc? i gotta backup wipe and reinstall? |
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| 02:11.09 | mnuhmnuh | zro: i suspect you're running an ancient, not updated, ver. of debian. it's fixable. got time? :-) |
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| 02:11.38 | zro | here's sources.lst http://sprunge.us/HIXJ?sh |
| 02:11.56 | zro | i mean, i got nothing else to do but be late on my deadlines till i figure something out |
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| 02:13.08 | zro | point me in a direction? |
| 02:14.38 | rrrr | personally i think reinstalling might be the quickest way, depending on how fast your connection is and how much software you need to install |
| 02:15.08 | zro | so i gotta wait for my backups to finsih? |
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| 02:15.14 | abrotman | That's not ancient, that's current stable |
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| 02:15.21 | mnuhmnuh | zro: good, jessie! i was expecting wheezy. methinks you need only update to strech/stable and you'll be good to go ... pls reasearch. |
| 02:16.19 | zro | so what, if I just change jessie to strech in sources.list you think i might not die in a ball of fire? |
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| 02:16.54 | abrotman | uh, jessie is not current stable :( |
| 02:17.11 | abrotman | it's oldstable .. /me is getting oldstable :( |
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| 02:19.36 | ryouma | zro: do it one release at a time |
| 02:19.48 | ryouma | also read the notes |
| 02:20.02 | Guest57032 | allizom, so I'm reinstalling to a new VM. I'm guessing if I choose to install no debian desktop environment and just the standard system utilities that will boot me to a command prompt? |
| 02:20.18 | rrrr | yes |
| 02:20.36 | rrrr | login prompt to be precise |
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| 02:21.06 | Guest57032 | k thx |
| 02:21.37 | mnuhmnuh | gahd, i have a lot of trouble knowining the diff. btw old-old old-stable old and stable. wheezy, jessy, stretch, ... # always hated those cartoons ... grr. |
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| 02:22.33 | rrrr | i don't get why there are so many oldstables, seems like a lot of maybe unnecessary work |
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| 02:24.40 | Guest57032 | yay I'm good. I tried installing with no GUI earlier today and it just hung, wierd. |
| 02:24.44 | Guest57032 | bri |
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| 02:27.17 | zro | everyone cross fingers |
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| 02:30.58 | rrrr | well, alright. |
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| 02:36.16 | decci | Hi |
| 02:36.40 | decci | Is there libssl 1.1.0 ever provided by Debian 9 Stretch |
| 02:37.08 | decci | I only see openssl 1.1.0 but nowhere I see libssl 1.1.0 |
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| 02:37.56 | abrotman | judd: versions openssl |
| 02:37.57 | judd | Package: openssl on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u3; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.0f-3; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.1.0f-3+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.1.0f-3+deb9u1; buster: 1.1.0g-2; sid: 1.1.0g-2 |
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| 02:38.44 | abrotman | decci: which version did you want? |
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| 02:39.28 | decci | abrotman: I am trying to install packages which should use openssl 1.1.0 |
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| 02:39.38 | abrotman | yes, 1.1.0 is in stretch ... |
| 02:39.56 | decci | But whenever I try to install it, it shows dependency over libssl 1.0.0 |
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| 02:39.58 | abrotman | decci: maybe you need the -dev package because yu're compiling something ? |
| 02:40.09 | ska | I have a Dell Precision 3520 that has ath10k wireless. Anyone had luck installing the drivers for that? |
| 02:40.17 | ska | If so, how? |
| 02:40.21 | abrotman | decci: can you show us the commands you're using, and the error it's giving? |
| 02:40.32 | decci | Now I just have openssl 1.1.0 installed and I don't want to install libssl 1.0.0 |
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| 02:42.00 | allizom | ska: drivers are in the kernel, you need firmware-atheros though. |
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| 02:43.36 | abrotman | decci: ? |
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| 02:45.03 | allizom | ska: that is proprietary software though, so you'd have to enable non-free https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 02:45.07 | ska | allizom: I just found the non-free repo with that package, installed and rebooting. |
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| 02:46.38 | abrotman | I gues he didn't want help |
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| 02:52.42 | decci | abrotman: sorry went offline |
| 02:52.42 | decci | abra0: let me show you the dependency issue |
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| 02:54.30 | decci | abrotman: https://pastebin.com/rZYCygUr |
| 02:54.58 | decci | abrotman: openssl version OpenSSL 1.1.0f 25 May 2017 |
| 02:55.08 | decci | abrotman: Package libssl1.0.0 is not installed. |
| 02:55.19 | decci | Is there any way I can point it to use openssl 1.1.0 |
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| 02:56.51 | decci | Do we have libssl 1.1.0 available for Stretch |
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| 03:00.04 | decci | Does openssl 1.1.0 uses libssl 1.0.0 |
| 03:00.15 | decci | or it uses libssl 1.1.0 |
| 03:00.41 | decci | oh i saw it uses libssl 1.1.0 dpkg --list | grep libssl ii libssl-dev:amd64 1.1.0f-3+deb9u1 |
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| 03:02.46 | decci | abrotman: u there? |
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| 03:04.44 | ska | allizom: I have the drivers and firmware in place, but wicd doesn't seem to see anything. |
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| 03:07.44 | ska | I don't have 802.11n though its older access point. |
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| 03:10.00 | allizom | ska: I don't use wicd. Check your lspci -k |
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| 03:34.21 | allizom | ska: does "ip a" show your device? |
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| 04:52.39 | awwal | how to exclude libs from being listed when dpkg -l or similar command(s)? |
| 04:54.48 | lru | dpkg -l |grep -v lib |
| 04:54.48 | dpkg | ii |grep -v lib 3.8-4.1 lru's private coin collection |
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| 06:02.19 | Guest72929 | >>> youtube.com/watch?v=X8qL6cAI0zQ |
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| 07:57.02 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 07:59.22 | Sveta | raynold: not here please |
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| 08:05.20 | AutisticAutist | sveta wanna suck my dick? |
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| 08:21.33 | DerLGm | AutisticAutist: hi |
| 08:21.42 | AutisticAutist | hi DerLGm |
| 08:22.11 | DerLGm | AutisticAutist: #debian-offtopic |
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| 08:22.28 | AutisticAutist | DerLGm: #debian-not-giving-a-fuck |
| 08:22.38 | krytarik | pahahaha |
| 08:22.40 | AutisticAutist | i will go spam there AND here |
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| 08:22.45 | AutisticAutist | how about that, nigga? |
| 08:22.50 | AutisticAutist | i only like the female niggas |
| 08:22.56 | AutisticAutist | they have good pussy |
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| 08:23.39 | DerLGm | #debian-mentally-unstable |
| 08:24.01 | DerLGm | :P |
| 08:24.02 | AutisticAutist | #debian-gnaa |
| 08:24.40 | AutisticAutist | hail hitler |
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| 08:35.42 | gladioacuto | hi there |
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| 08:36.25 | gladioacuto | thunderbird does not open any attachment anymore, dunno what happened. Is it a known issue? Any suggestion how to check/fix? |
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| 08:37.24 | DerLGm | gladioacuto: nvr heard of it |
| 08:37.40 | DerLGm | gladioacuto: what happens when you run it in terminal? |
| 08:38.06 | gladioacuto | DerLGm, run thunderbird in terminal? |
| 08:38.24 | DerLGm | Yeah |
| 08:38.37 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: Did you try to clear ~/.cashe/thunderbird or some other hidden folder in ~/ place? |
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| 08:39.01 | KOJIbKA | It might create trouble after recent update |
| 08:39.49 | gladioacuto | DerLGm, thunderbird from terminal does not produce any different result |
| 08:40.18 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: it's required log off/on after such clean. |
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| 08:40.35 | DerLGm | It doesn't provide any output in the terminal? |
| 08:40.39 | gladioacuto | KOJIbKA, removing ~/.cache does change any setting? |
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| 08:41.18 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: No, not the whole thing |
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| 08:41.37 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: only 'thunderbird' part of it |
| 08:42.49 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: Or it may be inside ~/.local I don't remember at the moment. |
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| 08:43.45 | gladioacuto | DerLGm, yes, http://paste.debian.net/998289/ |
| 08:43.55 | Sveta | debian does not auto mount my usb, what package is missing? |
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| 08:45.56 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: As for me - I had big trouble recently with 'icedove'. Some time back it had unknown trouble that caused complete crush. What I did. I've remained calm for about a week or so. And it became normal after all. |
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| 08:46.57 | gladioacuto | KOJIbKA, ok thanks |
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| 08:48.02 | gladioacuto | KOJIbKA, rmoving .cache/thunderbird/ does not produce any useful improvement |
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| 08:48.31 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: did you log off / log on? |
| 08:48.40 | gladioacuto | oh no, I am going to |
| 08:48.45 | gladioacuto | back ina while |
| 08:48.48 | gladioacuto | bye |
| 08:49.08 | jim | hi... I have a bridge, but I forgot how I got it... I'm using it in /etc/network/interfaces, but can someone help me find how it was created? |
| 08:51.43 | KOJIbKA | Sveta: did you try to remove / replace USB-flash? I have USB dongle with mouse/keyboard on it. After reboot from other OS than Debian it behaves creepy. Removal/replacing is the only thing that helps in my case. |
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| 08:52.27 | DerLGm | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:52.30 | gladioacuto | KOJIbKA, nothing to do, log off/on thunderbird behaviour does not change |
| 08:52.57 | jim | no, but looking |
| 08:53.11 | DerLGm | gladioacuto: your ouput mentions permission issues |
| 08:53.33 | DerLGm | Also switches to... Espanol? |
| 08:53.38 | KOJIbKA | gladioacuto: I recommend to wait for a while. It takes time for new bugs to be fixed by 'thunderbird' team. |
| 08:54.01 | zerocool | hey yall i need some help. |
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| 08:54.31 | DerLGm | zerocool: I'm not a shrink :P |
| 08:54.35 | zerocool | debian.iso => isolinux/txt.cfg ; if i add "timeout 10" |
| 08:54.53 | zerocool | i am still dumped at the splash screen forever |
| 08:55.02 | zerocool | never times out to default selection which is "install" |
| 08:55.14 | zerocool | i have also added "prompt 1" |
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| 08:55.35 | zerocool | know how i might be able to have the install media get right to installing |
| 08:55.43 | jim | I guess I wasn't specific enough,,, the bridge is for virtual guests |
| 08:56.12 | DerLGm | jim: ahhh |
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| 08:56.35 | DerLGm | zerocool: did you try Remaking install media? |
| 08:56.47 | DerLGm | Use a different image or mirror? |
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| 08:57.08 | zerocool | DerLGm: yeah, over and over a million times. yes i just got a fresh iso too, md5's matching... |
| 08:57.38 | gladioacuto | DerLGm, dunno how to deal with those warnings about permissions |
| 08:57.44 | DerLGm | Hmmm |
| 08:58.17 | zerocool | it's a somewhat annoying process, changing settings, fixing md5sum.txt, creating the iso, starting the vm |
| 08:59.23 | rrrr | its better to check the sha256 though |
| 08:59.47 | DerLGm | gladioacuto: I can't read Spanish but it looks like you'll have to chown a direct and it's contents |
| 08:59.48 | rrrr | or even sha512 |
| 08:59.49 | gladioacuto | KOJIbKA, but it is strange until yesterday it worked fine, I changed nothing on my system |
| 08:59.59 | zerocool | sure but it would be even better to learn the 0 and 1's by heart |
| 09:00.29 | gladioacuto | DerLGm, I am already the owner of those dirs |
| 09:00.30 | zerocool | it would be best to become one with the iso |
| 09:00.55 | DerLGm | That's not what it's saying |
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| 09:01.48 | gladioacuto | DerLGm, ll .local gives me as owner for all the subdirs |
| 09:02.04 | rrrr | well checking the sha256 or -512 seems not quite as exhaustive. md5 ist a little ancient today. |
| 09:02.06 | DerLGm | Hmmm |
| 09:02.14 | zerocool | i wonder if order... maybe prompt 1 should go after timeout 10... think order matters here? |
| 09:04.15 | zerocool | no order doesn't matter. |
| 09:04.32 | zerocool | or at least it didn't solve the problem. |
| 09:06.01 | zerocool | rrrr: on install media a file is kept called md5sum.txt which contains every file's md5 hash, it's not that i think md5 is supreme it's that it's fast and good enough |
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| 09:06.10 | zerocool | that and everyone else uses it too |
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| 09:16.37 | nindustries | Hi, want to build a NAS. What would be the recommended filesystem? ext4, btrfs, zfs-on-linux? |
| 09:16.50 | nindustries | I prefer to boot from it tough. |
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| 09:17.43 | petn-randall | nindustries: How large shall it be? Do you plan on using RAID of any kind? |
| 09:17.56 | petn-randall | nindustries: Also, SSDs or HDDs? |
| 09:18.02 | nindustries | It will be for large amount of data, 4x 8TB drives in Raid5. |
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| 09:18.11 | nindustries | So slow HDDs, might run the OS on an SSD tough. |
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| 09:19.24 | petn-randall | nindustries: Personally, I'd either go with mdraid + LVM + ext4, or â if you feel more adventurous â ZFS. |
| 09:19.44 | nindustries | I really liked ZFS on BSD, not familiar with the pitfalls of ZoL tough. |
| 09:20.17 | petn-randall | nindustries: Because of incompatible licenses you have to compile it yourself, and it's less well tested. |
| 09:21.09 | nindustries | Was it ZoL that always required specific kernel versions? |
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| 09:22.00 | nindustries | aha, perhaps ext4+lvm is indeed the safer way, as it's supported by default.. so less surprises |
| 09:22.42 | nindustries | and encrypted as a builtin feature |
| 09:23.28 | colo-work | I need to dist-upgrade an old machine from wheezy to jessie that doesn't have network access. what are my options? |
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| 09:24.25 | Sveta | debian does not automatically mount usb, please help |
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| 09:25.31 | nindustries | petn-randall: so i'm thinking OS on LVM/ext4 non-encrypted to it does reboots, then data on encrypted lvm/ext4 |
| 09:25.48 | Darcidride | Hi everyone, i'm actually using "Ansible 2.4.0.0+dfsg-1" (latest update) from my Debian Buster, the problem is this version of Ansible (2.4.0.0) have unfortunately an issue with "pipelines" which is fixed in 2.4.1 (you can see here some explanations and links : https://github.com/ansible/awx/issues/389#issuecomment-335705722) Can you tell me if you will update the Ansible package soon or if you've a patch available ? |
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| 09:26.35 | nindustries | ah, perhaps two LVM partitions on my OS disk, one encrypted for the docker containers to live in |
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| 09:28.09 | Al_lA | shit |
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| 09:29.28 | sudi` | I have a usb stick that is not being recognized by my computer; how can I completely reset it to 0? |
| 09:29.31 | petn-randall | nindustries: You can even have an completely* encrypted system: You can use dropbear to SSH in and type the password for your LUKS. That setup is even officially supported with minimal work. |
| 09:29.40 | petn-randall | Al_lA: Do you have a Debian support question? |
| 09:29.56 | nindustries | petn-randall: aha, care to link me? |
| 09:30.06 | Al_lA | petn-randall i just realised i messaged you when i meant to message nindustries, so nvm. thanks, no i don't. i have been making typing errors |
| 09:30.17 | petn-randall | sudi`: If you run 'tailf /var/log/kern.log' and plug in the USB stick, do you see any message? |
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| 09:30.53 | petn-randall | Al_lA: You didn't message anyone, you just sent 'shit' to the whole channel. |
| 09:31.26 | petn-randall | Al_lA: ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 09:31.30 | Al_lA | petn-randall yeh, that was an unconscious reaction to another syntax error. sorry |
| 09:32.04 | petn-randall | Al_lA: no prob |
| 09:32.25 | jelly | Darcidride: not many developers hang in here, this is mostly for user support. Did you check for newer version in unstable? Filed a bug report in debian? |
| 09:32.34 | jelly | !buster |
| 09:32.34 | dpkg | The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html |
| 09:33.02 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 09:33.02 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 09:33.06 | petn-randall | Darcidride: ansible Debian maintainer here, a new version will be uploaded soon. |
| 09:33.13 | sudi` | petn-randall: permission denied, I don't have all rights on that machine (though I do have some rights) |
| 09:33.17 | Darcidride | jelly, yes i checked, no new version on sid, it's the exact same version as buster |
| 09:33.39 | sudi` | petn-randall: I see errors in the dmesg otuput for instance |
| 09:33.43 | Darcidride | petn-randall, thank you for your answer, can you tell me if it's in 1 week or 1 hour ? :) |
| 09:33.47 | sudi` | [1890594.716192] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code |
| 09:33.54 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Currently waiting for the other maintainer to enable me to upload changes, but he's travelling at the moment. |
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| 09:35.25 | Darcidride | petn-randall, Ok, can you just tell me if it can be available in less than 8 hours, at least in sid ? |
| 09:36.00 | petn-randall | Darcidride: I'm guessing a couple of days. You can however just "git clone git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/ansible.git && cd ansible && debuild", and a new package should drop out. |
| 09:36.09 | Darcidride | (sorry to annoy you with this kind of question, but i've a milestone about a playbook that need to be done before tomorrow) |
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| 09:36.44 | Darcidride | Oh crap, it's really easy |
| 09:36.48 | Darcidride | Ok thank you :) |
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| 09:37.15 | petn-randall | sudi`: Can you paste the complete output of dmesg when you plug it in to https://paste.debian.net? |
| 09:37.33 | petn-randall | Darcidride: You're welcome! New version for sid/buster/stretch-backports is coming soon. |
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| 09:38.04 | Darcidride | petn-randall, Ok, Thank you again you and the other maintainer for the great work you do :) |
| 09:38.14 | Darcidride | you're doing* |
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| 09:39.30 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Sure, you're welcome! Feel free to file any bugs you find on the way. |
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| 09:42.41 | npx | Hey guys, I want to use golang 1.9 in Debian Stretch, should I use a backport from Buster? |
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| 09:43.52 | sudi` | petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/998299/ thanks for the help; the Unhandled error codes keep on repeating |
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| 09:45.30 | petn-randall | sudi`: Seems as though your USB stick is broken. |
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| 09:45.59 | petn-randall | sudi`: I'd test it on another machine to verify, there might be a small chance that it's just the interaction between the USB controller and the device. |
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| 09:46.34 | karstenk | Good morning! After a dist-upgrade, mysql server isnt running anymore. try to reinstall, but get: mysql-server : Depends: mysql-server-5.5 but it is not going to be installed . Please can somebody help me to sort out, need mysql running again |
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| 09:46.49 | karstenk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/26079013/ |
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| 09:47.25 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 09:47.25 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 09:47.40 | petn-randall | karstenk: Can you collect all this information above in a single paste for us? ^^^ |
| 09:47.40 | sudi` | petn-randall: I tried on other machines, I think I remember once that the same thing happened with that same stick, and I put it on a Windows machine which formatted it and then it worked again; can I try something similar here? |
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| 09:48.09 | petn-randall | sudi`: It's a hardware error that it's throwing, it has nothing to do with being formatted or not. |
| 09:48.50 | sudi` | ok, thanks for the help |
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| 09:49.04 | mum0l | ok I found it, looks like in debian strech we need to use systemctrl instaed of old chkconfig |
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| 09:50.01 | karstenk | petn-randall http://paste.debian.net/998302/ |
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| 09:53.15 | npx | sweet, backports ftw :) |
| 09:53.28 | Darcidride | petn-randall, when im executing the debuild : https://paste.debian.net/998303 |
| 09:53.44 | Darcidride | Apparently an error with fakeroot |
| 09:53.56 | themill | Darcidride: you need to install the build-dependencies |
| 09:54.29 | Darcidride | Ok |
| 09:54.57 | petn-randall | Darcidride: 'apt install build-essential && apt build-dep ansible' should pull it all in. |
| 09:55.46 | Darcidride | oh, ok i already have build-essential, didn't know about build-dep command |
| 09:56.31 | themill | You can also "apt install ./foo.dsc" |
| 09:56.59 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Ah, it's 'apt-get build-dep ansible', 'apt' doesn't know about build-dep. |
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| 09:57.11 | petn-randall | themill: nice, didn't know about that one. |
| 09:57.26 | nindustries | Is it possible to make netatalk work with SMB solely? As AFP is deprecated in macos |
| 09:57.27 | Darcidride | oh ! petn-randall that's was it :) |
| 09:57.33 | Darcidride | taht was it* |
| 09:57.56 | Darcidride | it worked with apt-get instead of "apt" |
| 09:57.56 | petn-randall | karstenk: Can you also show us 'apt-cache policy', and 'apt-cache policy mysql-server'? |
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| 09:58.06 | nindustries | disregard, seems it can |
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| 10:01.01 | karstenk | http://paste.debian.net/998305/ |
| 10:01.37 | Darcidride | petn-randall, no tarball in sources ../ansible_2.4.1.0+dfsg.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz} |
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| 10:01.38 | karstenk | http://paste.debian.net/998307/ |
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| 10:02.54 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Try 'git pull --all', it should be in the upstream branch. |
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| 10:04.09 | Darcidride | Well, let me try it, i don't have access to the 9418 port without connect me to an another network (my actual company network doesn't allow this port...) |
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| 10:10.44 | karstenk | âpetn-randallâ have posted http://paste.debian.net/998305/ http://paste.debian.net/998307/ |
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| 10:12.40 | Darcidride | petn-randall, with pull --all, everything seems up to date |
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| 10:13.06 | petn-randall | karstenk: Looking at it right now. |
| 10:13.08 | Darcidride | but i still can't build the deb :( |
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| 10:14.56 | petn-randall | karstenk: The actual error isn't visible yet. Steps to find it: Run 'apt-get install mysql-server-5.5', then if it says Depends: <package>, but it is not going to be installed, run 'apt-get install <package>'. Repeat those steps until you find a different error. |
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| 10:16.11 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Let me reproduce, just a sec. |
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| 10:18.53 | Iridos | mmh, since the last update, duplicity complains, that ~/.ssh/known_hosts is corrupt and refuses to connect⦠ssh and sftp have no problem with the file |
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| 10:20.23 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Ok, so you need to install 'git-buildpackage', then do the following steps in a new dir (remove the old checkout): 1) gbp clone git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/ansible.git 2) cd ansible 3) gbp buildpackage |
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| 10:20.53 | petn-randall | Darcidride: That worked for me. |
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| 10:22.16 | petn-randall | Darcidride: It should fail at the signing step at the end, but that's only important when you want to upload it to Debian. ;) |
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| 10:22.39 | Darcidride | petn-randall, ok im going to try it |
| 10:23.07 | Darcidride | in fact, i didn't have the git-buildpackage package |
| 10:23.10 | Darcidride | installed* |
| 10:23.55 | Iridos | hat's so weird⦠apparently it's some python thingy called paramiko that does that in duplicity⦠|
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| 10:25.55 | Iridos | but I can't find a trace of what might influence that⦠I did remove a hundred packages yesterday that were from oldstable and aren't in stretch |
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| 10:26.11 | Iridos | but I don't see anything that should make a difference |
| 10:26.33 | karstenk | âpetn-randallâ http://paste.debian.net/998314/ seems to rely on perl and perl-base |
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| 10:31.18 | Iridos | oh, there⦠openssl-1.0.0 |
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| 10:34.07 | petn-randall | karstenk: Where does perl-base 5.20.2-6 come from? It's not in Debian jessie. |
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| 10:36.36 | Darcidride | petn-randall, Well, i can't figure out why it doesn't work, im going to give you a pastebin with all the steps |
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| 10:41.31 | Darcidride | petn-randall, https://paste.debian.net/998317/ i follow all of your steps, don't know why :( |
| 10:42.06 | Iridos | judd, versions libssl1.0.0 |
| 10:42.07 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u3; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1 |
| 10:42.23 | Iridos | meh, that's not in stretch, I feel confused |
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| 10:42.49 | Iridos | judd, versions python-paramiko |
| 10:42.50 | judd | Package: python-paramiko on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.7.7.1-3.1; wheezy-backports: 1.10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.15.1-1; buster: 2.0.0-1; sid: 2.0.0-1; stretch: 2.0.0-1 |
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| 10:52.27 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Those are the old steps, you must have missed the correct ones: |
| 10:52.59 | petn-randall | Darcidride: 0) Remove the old checkout 1) gbp clone git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/ansible.git 2) cd ansible 3) gbp buildpackage |
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| 10:54.22 | Iridos | I don't know⦠I get this traceback:http://paste.debian.net/998320/ |
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| 10:54.40 | Iridos | paramiko ist the version from stretch and python-cryptography is |
| 10:54.47 | Darcidride | ok petn-randall im going to retry |
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| 10:56.01 | Iridos | but apparently python-cryptography only has aead, whatever that is, from version 2.x on and stretch has 1.7.1 |
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| 10:57.13 | Iridos | maybe the versions of python-paramiko and of python-cryptography should match? |
| 10:57.20 | Iridos | judd, versions python-cryptography |
| 10:57.21 | judd | Package: python-cryptography on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 1.7.1-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7.1-3; buster: 2.1.3-3; sid: 2.1.3-3 |
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| 11:00.58 | Darcidride | Ok petn-randall it worked, i have the deb package, and at the end the error about the key you told me |
| 11:01.00 | Darcidride | So, thank you again :) |
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| 11:01.33 | Iridos | meh, of course :( |
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| 11:02.37 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Glad it worked, you're welcome! :) |
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| 11:23.43 | rnix | hi, when logging in to a remote machine via ssh (debian stretch), $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is set properly for this user. If i then call sudo -u <user> <cmd>, dbus is not working. i then tried with sudo -u <user> HOME=/home/<user> dbus-launch --exit-with-session dconf <args> but just get a connection refused. Any idea hot to properly fix this? |
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| 11:24.21 | petn-randall | rnix: Is dbus running? |
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| 11:29.37 | rnix | petn-randall: yes |
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| 11:34.25 | sudi` | petn-randall: I formatted the usb stick on windows and I was able (at least for now) of transferring files |
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| 11:48.30 | vap0r | hi all im new to debian 9 and trying to add a few ips to my box. the tutorial says to nano /etc/network/50-default.network and add each IP by typing out Address=IP/32. I can't find that file there. Also can't find it in /etc/systemd/network (thought id look). I did create it from scratch and give it a go but no luck. Can anyone help me with adding an ip? |
| 11:49.43 | petn-randall | vap0r: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_one_Interface |
| 11:50.04 | petn-randall | !tutorial |
| 11:50.04 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
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| 11:50.48 | vap0r | ah ok thats the method im used to |
| 11:50.58 | vap0r | not sure why the tutorial changed it all up for deb 9 on the ovh website |
| 11:50.59 | vap0r | but thanks |
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| 11:58.18 | maziar | hi, I want to save my ssh session content with this command :" ssh 192.168.1.2 | tee file.txt" but when I wanted to open file.txt in sublime or vim, I faced some issue for e.g my terminal in 192.168.1.2 I have color setting but in file.txt I got this ASCI code : "[ |
| 11:58.18 | maziar | o |
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| 11:59.05 | dury | hi there all :-) |
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| 12:00.44 | dury | if I did thia curl -s https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt/keys.asc | sudo apt-key add - |
| 12:00.44 | dury | $ echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list |
| 12:00.44 | dury | $ sudo apt update && sudo apt install signal-desktop I will convert in frankesteindebian |
| 12:01.07 | dury | thia = this |
| 12:01.32 | dury | wanna install signal |
| 12:02.19 | dury | that would become a frankenstein debian, guys? |
| 12:02.28 | dury | or what? |
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| 12:09.21 | jelly | dury: hard to say but a single package probably won't do too much damage; enabling repos of differen distros or newer releases of debian, however, leads to issues that might be called frankenbian or whatever |
| 12:09.58 | do0m | dury: traditionally, a frankendebian is a debian install using repos for different releases |
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| 12:10.54 | do0m | sorry jelly , didn't see your answer |
| 12:14.39 | rafalcpp | how to ask computer in lan, what is it's hostname or something? |
| 12:15.30 | rafalcpp | wasn't "finger" for that? or some other method |
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| 12:18.18 | SwedeMike | rafalcpp: no, finger doesn't do that. you can use dnssd perhaps, depends if that is installed/running or not. |
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| 12:44.30 | petn-randall | There's no need to install a Desktop app for Signal, since there's also a Chromium extension that does just that. |
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| 12:49.00 | hexnewbie | Hello. I've been trying to add a third-party repository for testing for the past hour. How does one use trusted.gpg.d? I tried apt-key add --keyring=/etc/trusted.gpg.d/test.gpg, but it added the rogue key to trusted.gpg (thankfully, I got backup and I restored it). How does one approach this issue? |
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| 12:51.04 | petn-randall | hexnewbie: Just copy the key to /etc/trusted.gpg.d/, that's all there is to do. If that doesn't work, tell us what steps you took, what you expected, and what happened instead, ideally with commands + output. |
| 12:51.38 | petn-randall | Sorry, it's /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ |
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| 12:51.49 | petn-randall | hexnewbie: That's probably your mistake. ^^^ |
| 12:53.09 | hexnewbie | Can I have ASCII files in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d? :) |
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| 12:53.50 | petn-randall | hexnewbie: No, you need a keyring there. |
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| 12:54.02 | petn-randall | AFAICS |
| 12:54.04 | petn-randall | !tias |
| 12:54.04 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 12:54.35 | hexnewbie | petn-randall: Thanks. So I had to use gpg --import --keyring=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/test.gpg --no-default-keyring |
| 12:54.43 | petn-randall | hexnewbie: 'man apt-key' will tell you how to format asci armored keys and where to put them. |
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| 13:13.43 | pragomer | I want to be able to use snapshots (for testing things out and the rolling back). would u recommend btrfs or lvm for this? I dont need any other feature (raid or so..). Just snapshots |
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| 13:17.43 | petn-randall | pragomer: I'd use LVM for production, btrfs if you have backups and want to play with it. |
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| 13:20.28 | pragomer | so lvm I think. can I used a 2nd harddisk just to put lvm-snapshots on? |
| 13:22.19 | Darcidride | petn-randall, by the way, I can confirm you the 2.4.1 version of Ansible fix the issue with pipelines introduced in 2.4.0 :) |
| 13:22.50 | petn-randall | Darcidride: Good to hear. I updated it to 2.4.2 just now, btw. So you can 'git pull --all' and rebuild to get it. |
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| 13:29.10 | jelly | petn-randall: do you do anything unusual for stretch-backports builds or is it 1:1 unchanged? |
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| 13:29.30 | jelly | (ansible) |
| 13:29.31 | petn-randall | jelly: Pretty much unchanged, but Harlan uploaded that. |
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| 13:30.50 | petn-randall | jelly: There was a bug in 2.3.x with python-jinja v2.9 that broke for testing, but not for stable. Fun times :) |
| 13:31.17 | jelly | that's fine, don't care about testing :-) |
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| 13:33.13 | petn-randall | jelly: If you feel like adopting it for $work, go ahead! </advertisement> |
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| 13:38.31 | muck | hi, i'm trying to get the debian install CD to boot from a PowerMac G5 with no luck. the disc doesn't show up as bootable from the boot menu, and trying to boot it manually via OpenFirmware is no good either |
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| 13:39.26 | petn-randall | muck: IIRC there's special images for those machines. |
| 13:39.40 | muck | beyond just the ppc64el iso? |
| 13:39.43 | n4dir | petn-randall: you do recall correct. |
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| 13:41.07 | n4dir | i think debian removed ppc isos for the old iMacs and such (for the actual stable). You will have to use old-stable |
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| 13:43.42 | n4dir | muck: try the #debianppc channel on irc.oftc.net network |
| 13:44.37 | sudi` | I installed debian on a new system that had Windows, but I am not able to boot on debian. I installed grub correctly, and in the Bios I selected Legacy Boot only (Windows boots fine in UEFI mode) |
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| 13:45.04 | n4dir | i found the download page, i think (powerpc): https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/debian-installer/ muck |
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| 13:46.14 | muck | ah, wait, i just realized |
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| 13:47.14 | muck | i was trying ppc64el which requires a POWER8 processor :) |
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| 13:49.54 | donofrio | anyone know how to resolve this dialog? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNn6llOLGGN4KhvHt6HQ (no need to sign up if prompted just close out that live login jazz) |
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| 13:56.46 | castleguard | I'm on this page. https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession if I make an account will I be able to edit the page? |
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| 13:58.18 | petn-randall | castleguard: yes |
| 13:58.27 | castleguard | ty |
| 13:58.38 | castleguard | not sure that I will but just checking. |
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| 14:03.11 | silver_hook | Iâm having an issue with certbot. It wonât run and I tried fixing it by updating, upgrading, removing and re-installing it, all to no avail. |
| 14:04.07 | silver_hook | I think the issue is with the Python3 configparser vs. Python2 ConfigParser, but no idea how to fix it, even after searching the net. |
| 14:04.11 | silver_hook | Output: http://paste.debian.net/998348/ |
| 14:04.21 | castleguard | is loopback a simulated network that exists to allow different processes running on a single chip to talk to eachother using network protocols? |
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| 14:12.10 | RoyK | castleguard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost |
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| 14:14.02 | darxmurf | it reminds me a guy who asked me why when he was pinging his machine from all the computer on the network, the IP address was not correct... his machine name was "localhost" \o/ |
| 14:14.32 | FinalX | excellent :) |
| 14:15.17 | darxmurf | well... or not :D |
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| 14:15.30 | FinalX | for amusement, it is :) |
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| 14:15.43 | darxmurf | ^^ |
| 14:16.13 | castleguard | RoyK, ty |
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| 14:32.50 | Iridos | darxmurf, http://slopjong.de/wp-content/2009/01/shirt-i-hacked.jpg |
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| 14:44.13 | donofrio | anyone know how to resolve this dialog? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNn6llOLGGN4KhvHt6HQ (no need to sign up if prompted just close out that live login jazz) I believe the debian browser is not midori cause once I installed it it didn't fix the problem and now I have four browsers available...? https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNn6loea3pSdDLbPUxNQ help |
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| 14:46.54 | petn-randall | donofrio: Whatever those links are supported to do, both redirect me to a empty, white page. |
| 14:46.55 | Iridos | that's 9 words⦠you could even have typed that⦠|
| 14:47.19 | Iridos | the first one at least says: Failed to execute default Web Browser. Input/output error. |
| 14:47.31 | Iridos | and the first question is what did you do to create the message |
| 14:48.15 | donofrio | petn-randall, do you have graphics turn off? |
| 14:48.35 | donofrio | cause these links work in all browsers, well excluding lynx and the link |
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| 14:50.33 | _indzin | list |
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| 14:50.45 | petn-randall | donofrio: No, standard firefox-esr in stretch |
| 14:51.37 | Iridos | think you wanted to say "!list" there ⦠you forgot the exclamation mark |
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| 14:53.46 | Iridos | donofrio, what creates the dialog |
| 14:58.18 | donofrio | Iridos, when I goto the menu in xfce4 and click on "web browser" then I get the input/output dialog erro |
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| 15:03.24 | Iridos | what menu is that |
| 15:03.50 | donofrio | oh in xfce here I gotta gif that shows moar....one moment.... |
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| 15:03.53 | castleguard | I just tried to run make and sudo make and it said command not found... what package do I need to get to use that command (apt install make?) |
| 15:04.41 | castleguard | nvm I believe I'm right there |
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| 15:05.29 | n4dir | probably xfce4-settings-manager, then "default applications" |
| 15:06.09 | n4dir | not sure if "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" might be a workaround. |
| 15:07.02 | Iridos | castleguard, you probably want to do apt-get install build-essential # (and possibly also the devscripts package) |
| 15:07.35 | castleguard | ty I'll investigate that package. but yeah I ran into the same issue where I didn't have sudo lol :) |
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| 15:20.43 | ghormoon | hi, is it somehow possible to apply ssh config to Host *.something.xxx if something.xxx is in search (resolv.conf) so you don't (have to) write it ot the ssh command so this plain wildcard doesn't pick it up? |
| 15:22.50 | JustASlacker | ghormoon: maybe.. |
| 15:23.22 | JustASlacker | could you explain further? |
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| 15:23.44 | petn-randall | ghormoon: Better tell us about your specific use case, and not hypotheticals. |
| 15:24.02 | nkuttler | ghormoon: see man 5 ssh_config, Host, PATTERNS |
| 15:24.05 | ghormoon | well, ssh server.something.xxx picks the config from host *.something.xx in .ssh/config. but if I write just server and let resolv.conf handle the rest, it doesn't |
| 15:24.23 | JustASlacker | uh |
| 15:24.25 | JustASlacker | it should |
| 15:24.29 | nkuttler | ssh shouldn't care about your resolv.conf |
| 15:24.51 | nkuttler | what do you mean, if you just write server? |
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| 15:24.59 | nkuttler | ghormoon: paste.debian.net |
| 15:24.59 | ghormoon | well, the point is, ssh obviously matches the provided name, so it doesn't even know it matched because of search in resolv.conf |
| 15:25.04 | ghormoon | so it doesn't match for the domain |
| 15:25.21 | ghormoon | ssh hostname vs ssh.hostname.domain.tld |
| 15:25.35 | ghormoon | when there's search domain.tls in resolv.conf |
| 15:25.36 | nkuttler | so you can resolve hostname? |
| 15:25.39 | ghormoon | yes |
| 15:25.53 | JustASlacker | maybe just remove .domain.tld from ssh config? |
| 15:25.55 | nkuttler | but it's the wrong host? |
| 15:26.12 | petn-randall | I find it quite confusing that you're switching examples in every line. |
| 15:26.17 | nkuttler | yeah.. |
| 15:26.18 | ghormoon | JustASlacker: but that would match to hosts that are out of the domain.tld as well, that's not what I need :) |
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| 15:26.23 | nkuttler | paste your config already |
| 15:26.56 | JustASlacker | yo you have the same hostname multiple times in different domains.. |
| 15:27.02 | petn-randall | "hostname" vs "server", "something.xxx" vs "domain.tld", etc. |
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| 15:28.09 | ghormoon | https://pastebin.com/nWPHbgeG |
| 15:28.14 | silver_hook | I narrowed down my certbot issue to be regarding the `ConfigParser` being renamed between Python 2 and 3. No idea why apt didnât fix that. |
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| 15:31.08 | ghormoon | afaik there's no conflict in the hostname if I ommit the domain part, but it's quaite a lot of hosts so I want to match it |
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| 15:31.31 | ghormoon | and ideally not have to write the domain part :) |
| 15:31.47 | JustASlacker | maybe |
| 15:31.55 | JustASlacker | maybe use the ip of the host |
| 15:32.20 | ghormoon | that's not helping :) |
| 15:32.23 | JustASlacker | as the name in ssh config :D |
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| 15:32.36 | ghormoon | I don't want to list them all in ssh config |
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| 15:33.04 | JustASlacker | ok, make a wrapper script then |
| 15:33.31 | JustASlacker | ssh_dns |
| 15:33.35 | ghormoon | can I somehow find out which domain matches when resolving? |
| 15:34.02 | ghormoon | worst case I can test out one by one, but resolvconf does that for me hopefully |
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| 15:35.31 | JustASlacker | well, if you have your ptr in order you can just do a reverse lookup |
| 15:35.42 | ghormoon | nope |
| 15:35.42 | ghormoon | :) |
| 15:35.47 | JustASlacker | dig -x $(dig HOSTNAME +short) |
| 15:35.52 | JustASlacker | ah |
| 15:36.06 | JustASlacker | maybe ask #bash |
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| 15:36.23 | JustASlacker | I guess you have to parse out the answer section |
| 15:36.32 | donofrio | Iridos, what I see is at https://1drv.ms/i/s!AsBlZbBf72iNn6lp8Sj6zot-TFdUtg it's a attimated gif that should show you how I get the input/output erro |
| 15:38.24 | ghormoon | well, I can do something like host $1.aaa.bbb.ccc && ssh $1.aaa.bbb.ccc; host $1.ddd.eee.fff && ssh $1.ddd.eee.fff .... |
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| 15:39.13 | ghormoon | in the wrapper |
| 15:39.41 | JustASlacker | dig $HOSTNAME | grep "ANSWER SECTION" -A1 | grep -v ANSWER | cut -f1 -d\t |
| 15:39.56 | JustASlacker | what does that give you if you fill out $HOSTNAME |
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| 15:42.06 | ghormoon | yeah, that would be more robust in case of collision (it won't start ssh to both :d) |
| 15:42.43 | ghormoon | hm, dig doesn't use the resolv.conf search obviously |
| 15:42.59 | ghormoon | so not working :) |
| 15:43.15 | JustASlacker | of course it doe |
| 15:43.40 | mspo | maybe dig +short instead of all that grep? |
| 15:43.41 | JustASlacker | it should respect search domain |
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| 15:44.03 | ghormoon | it doesn't work for me, asks for the name as given, not adding anything and not finding it |
| 15:44.08 | JustASlacker | ah, right, needs +search |
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| 15:44.33 | ghormoon | yeah, that works |
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| 15:44.40 | ghormoon | +short ive sip, though, won't work |
| 15:44.48 | ghormoon | *gives ip |
| 15:45.12 | mspo | oh sorry- lost some of the context in scrollback |
| 15:45.34 | JustASlacker | still get a answer section with +search |
| 15:45.38 | mspo | which domain in the search list matched |
| 15:45.58 | JustASlacker | ah, now I misread |
| 15:45.59 | ghormoon | yup |
| 15:46.47 | ghormoon | dig +search xxxx | grep "ANSWER SECTION" -A1 | grep -v ANSWER | cut -d" " -f1 | rev | cut -d. -f2- | rev |
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| 15:47.08 | JustASlacker | like the rev |
| 15:47.12 | JustASlacker | would still ask #bash |
| 15:47.25 | ghormoon | can sed it or something :D |
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| 15:47.37 | JustASlacker | they usually find some perverse oneliner |
| 15:47.45 | mspo | for x in $(egrep "^search" /etc/resolv.conf|sed 's/search //') do dig foo.${x} >/dev/null && echo ${x}; done |
| 15:47.56 | JustASlacker | yeah, like that ^_^ |
| 15:48.04 | mspo | something like that |
| 15:48.28 | mspo | but if you get answers from multiple you will get multiple output |
| 15:48.38 | ghormoon | maybe just use the resulting variable like ${hostname:xxx:yyy} |
| 15:48.47 | Iridos | ghormoon, just write server and server.fqn.de into your .ssh/config ⦠or server* |
| 15:49.09 | ghormoon | Iridos: the issue is that thre are a lot so I don't want to list the short names there, just *.domain |
| 15:49.19 | mspo | h getting even more context :) |
| 15:49.29 | mspo | in ssh_config you don't even have to use real names for things |
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| 15:49.58 | mspo | I have Host github.com-work, for example |
| 15:50.41 | ghormoon | yeah, but I have ~500 hosts in two domain and chaning. too lazy to list them to confi :) |
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| 15:53.12 | mspo | did you read the PATTERNS section of man ssh_config ? |
| 15:53.55 | mspo | it's starting to sound like you're going to need a wrapper to generate the host match on the fly |
| 15:54.12 | mspo | which isn't that big of a deal but points to, maybe, something else wrong with your setup :) |
| 15:54.36 | ghormoon | yeah, that's what we agreed on with the dig line |
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| 15:55.02 | JustASlacker | welcome to twenty minutes ago mspo |
| 15:55.17 | ghormoon | just a script doing: name=`dig +search $1 | grep "ANSWER SECTION" -A1 | grep -v ANSWER | cut -d" " -f1 | rev | cut -d. -f2- | rev`; ssh $name |
| 15:55.24 | JustASlacker | dont use backticks |
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| 15:55.39 | mspo | thanks |
| 15:55.44 | mspo | JustASlacker: I'm slow |
| 15:55.45 | ghormoon | why? |
| 15:55.56 | mspo | just get in the habit of using $() instead |
| 15:56.03 | mspo | for slightly more sane nesting |
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| 15:56.12 | JustASlacker | deprecated since like hundreds of years by now |
| 15:56.16 | JustASlacker | they just suck |
| 15:56.25 | JustASlacker | and make the people in #bash cry |
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| 15:57.20 | Iridos | ghormoon, so how do you remember 500 hosts |
| 15:57.34 | Iridos | hostnames* |
| 15:57.37 | JustASlacker | mspo: no shit |
| 15:57.40 | ghormoon | just ose the one you curently need |
| 15:57.42 | castleguard | . |
| 15:57.50 | ghormoon | like working a week with some, other wieek with others |
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| 15:58.01 | ghormoon | too lazy to add them all the time to config :) |
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| 15:58.17 | JustASlacker | well, be a pro and have proper reverse zones |
| 15:58.52 | Iridos | the simplest thing would be to write out the full name of the host⦠then the config can have *.domain |
| 15:58.56 | ghormoon | I have no access to those :( |
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| 15:59.09 | Iridos | and it's not more work because the fqn comes from history with ^R anyway |
| 15:59.17 | ghormoon | Iridos: yes, and that's what the wrapper script does so I don't have to write it myself :) |
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| 16:05.21 | Iridos | ghormoon, I was saying that that's not necessary⦠specially if it's a horrible function ^^ |
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| 16:08.18 | ghormoon | Iridos: but otherwise I need to write the domains all the time :) |
| 16:08.34 | Iridos | no, you don't, because you just go ^Rhostname |
| 16:08.43 | Iridos | and it comes from your history |
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| 16:11.14 | ghormoon | that's what I do but it's annoyng when it's not in history |
| 16:11.27 | ghormoon | a lot times I need something "new" to access |
| 16:11.38 | Iridos | then you edit the hostname from the line in history⦠|
| 16:11.53 | ghormoon | using the wrapper is faster :) |
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| 16:12.02 | ghormoon | yes, I did it like this all the time till today |
| 16:12.06 | ghormoon | byt it's annoying :) |
| 16:13.20 | Iridos | at least do something like myssh() { echo $(dig $1 | mawk '/ANSWER SECTION/{getline;gsub("[.]$","",$1);print $1}' ) ; } |
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| 16:13.36 | Iridos | instead of multiple greps and cuts and even rev |
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| 16:15.15 | Iridos | hm, I don't even get an ANSWER SECTION for local hosts⦠does your line even work? |
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| 16:15.24 | castleguard | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.06 | petn-randall | castleguard: What are you exactly compiling? dwm exists as a package in Debian. |
| 16:16.44 | Iridos | or maybe better myssh() { ssh $(host $1 | mawk '{print $1}' ) ; } |
| 16:16.56 | Iridos | at least that works for our local hosts |
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| 16:20.14 | donofrio | anyone know how I can troubleshoot this clone error when I try to run "default debain browser" |
| 16:20.17 | castleguard | compiling dwm but I don't think I have a compiler installed, so that might be why it's dying. :) |
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| 16:20.37 | castleguard | you have to compile it to edit it or to have a per-user version |
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| 16:20.50 | castleguard | so it's worth compiling, despite coming in a package |
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| 16:21.46 | Iridos | or even myssh() { host=$(host $1);ssh ${host/ */} ; } |
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| 16:24.00 | kallenp | Please, any idea howto solve it ? /usr/local/src/pygtail-0.7.0# pygtail |
| 16:24.00 | kallenp | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 16:24.00 | kallenp | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.00 | kallenp | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.00 | kallenp | ImportError: No module named 'pkg_resources' |
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| 16:25.25 | kallenp | Hi, please, any idea, howto solve Python problem with pygtail ? http://paste.debian.net/998371/ |
| 16:25.26 | Iridos | donofrio, I don't use xfce4, so not sure how exactly the directories are called⦠but I guess something like this should give you the config files that call the browser: find /etc/xfce4 ~/.xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4 ~/Desktop/ -type f -exec grep -l browser {} + |
| 16:25.34 | Iridos | (remove the -l if you want to see the actual match) |
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| 16:26.42 | Iridos | kallenp, don't run python in the source directory of something you tried to install |
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| 16:27.00 | donofrio | Iridos, this is a clone error not a browser error it seems |
| 16:28.06 | Iridos | hat do you mean "clone" |
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| 16:28.34 | kallenp | Iridos: I am trying this: http://admin.shamot.cz/?p=424#sthash.qL1V1piE.dpbs |
| 16:28.42 | donofrio | Iridos, I mean the clone command it returns "clone: Invalid argument" |
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| 16:29.10 | Iridos | that is something totally different from what you described before? |
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| 16:29.45 | Iridos | kallenp, I mean, cd out of your built directory. IIRC python doesn't like finding all the .py and __init files from there in $PWD |
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| 16:30.34 | donofrio | Iridos, only found that cause someone gave command line %u to run and that is what I seen |
| 16:33.25 | kallenp | Iridos: same problem |
| 16:33.26 | kallenp | root@mail:/# /usr/local/bin/zabbix-postfix-stats.sh |
| 16:33.26 | kallenp | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 16:33.26 | kallenp | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.27 | kallenp | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.27 | kallenp | ImportError: No module named 'pkg_resources' |
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| 16:34.14 | kallenp | Iridos: same problem - http://paste.debian.net/998374/ |
| 16:34.28 | petn-randall | kallenp: Pay close attention to the /topic, it contains valuable info. |
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| 16:35.58 | kallenp | petn-randall: sorry, I don't know what do you mean... |
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| 16:38.11 | petn-randall | kallenp: It has a warning that you shouldn't flood. We have a bot here as protection that kicks nicks that paste more than 4 lines at once. "/msg dpkg paste" for details, but it seems you found http://paste.debian.net yourself. :) |
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| 16:39.46 | apt-problem | apt-get -f install don't solve my problem. |
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| 16:41.55 | kallenp | petn-randall: I am verry sorry. I am beginner with IRC. Sorry man- |
| 16:41.57 | apt-problem | https://paste.debian.net/998376/ |
| 16:42.47 | apt-problem | dpkg -r also was able to sove it. |
| 16:42.47 | dpkg | removes also was able to sove it. along with a pound of flesh from apt-problem's body, then staples apt-problem back up with a staple gun. |
| 16:42.59 | apt-problem | package contxt makes troubles. |
| 16:43.28 | apt-problem | i show you post-removal script. |
| 16:43.29 | petn-randall | kallenp: No worries! We're here to help and tell you about useful tips on the way. |
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| 16:48.04 | apt-problem | https://paste.debian.net/998380/ <---- less /var/lib/dpkg/info/context.postrm |
| 16:49.07 | Iridos | apt-problem, yeah. if you can, you should fix the postrm script |
| 16:49.11 | donofrio | anyone know how to fix when clone command it returns "clone: Invalid argument" |
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| 16:49.53 | arora | donofrio what exactly did you type in? |
| 16:50.49 | Iridos | apt-problem, set LANG=C before you run things, then messages become english |
| 16:51.40 | donofrio | arora, exo-open --launch WebBrowser %u from terminal, trying to troubleshoot why when I run "Debian default browser" from the menu I get "Input/output" dialog but when I run from terminal it just states that |
| 16:52.26 | viqas | lost my debian menu in gnome 3, when i click the activies button i get the large icon menu, how do i get the drop down menu back again? |
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| 16:53.58 | arora | donofrio uhm sorry, no idea. |
| 16:54.03 | Iridos | dpkg, postinstall |
| 16:54.03 | dpkg | During package installation, dpkg runs a script called "preinst", unpacks the .deb, then runs "postinst". When removing, it runs "prerm", deletes the files and then runs "postrm". These scripts can be found in /var/lib/dpkg/info/$package.{pre,post}{inst,rm}; as a last resort to fixing packaging problems, you can edit the script, e.g. by making the second line "exit 0" of a shell script. http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts |
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| 16:54.37 | Iridos | apt-problem, ^^^ |
| 16:55.09 | apt-problem | Iridos: sorry. |
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| 16:56.59 | apt-problem | LANG=C https://paste.debian.net/998382/ <-- apt-get -f install |
| 16:57.32 | apt-problem | Iridos: that'S my problem, I can't fix it :/ |
| 16:57.41 | apt-problem | the xpostrm script |
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| 17:07.12 | apt-problem | any suggestion or Idea? |
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| 17:12.00 | apt-problem | apt-get clean |
| 17:12.00 | jelly | apt-problem: add "set -x" as second line of postrm script, try to remove it again, figure uot where it breaks |
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| 17:13.05 | castleguard | I'm getting an error on c compiler: X11/Xlib.h file not found .... so, I did a sudo find / -name "Xlib.h" and nothing came up. I installed musl (a c library) ... and still same error. |
| 17:13.42 | jelly | castleguard: what are you trying to compile? |
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| 17:14.00 | jelly | judd: file X11/Xlib.h |
| 17:14.04 | judd | Search for X11/Xlib.h in stretch/amd64: ivtools-dev: usr/include/IV-X11/Xlib.h; libx11-dev: usr/include/X11/Xlib.h |
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| 17:15.05 | jelly | castleguard: you'll want to install libx11-dev, and possibly some more -dev packages with headers your build process needs |
| 17:15.44 | apt-problem | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/998383/ <--- apt-get -f install , postrm with set -x |
| 17:16.33 | jelly | apt-problem: that's not the whole output., does it hang there? |
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| 17:16.37 | castleguard | thanks |
| 17:17.03 | apt-problem | + update-texmf-config format unknown option: format <- thats the problem? |
| 17:17.33 | apt-problem | jelly: it is the whole output. |
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| 17:18.18 | jelly | apt-problem: and you get prompt back right after line 37: + rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty /var/lib/texmf/web2c/xetex ...? |
| 17:18.18 | apt-problem | with apt-get -f install |
| 17:18.57 | jelly | ,v context |
| 17:18.58 | judd | Package: context on amd64 -- wheezy: 2012.05.30.20120611-1; jessie: 2014.05.21.20140528-2; stretch: 2016.05.17.20160523-1; buster: 2017.05.15.20170613-2; sid: 2017.05.15.20170613-2 |
| 17:19.16 | jelly | apt-problem: which debian release do you have installed? |
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| 17:19.56 | apt-problem | jelly: yes after xetex I prompt back. Debian stretch |
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| 17:20.13 | apt-problem | Linux zoe 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:20.37 | jelly | apt-problem: how did you manage to get this package version installed on stretch? |
| 17:20.53 | jelly | why are you still on jessie-backports kernel? |
| 17:22.50 | apt-problem | jelly: good question? |
| 17:23.22 | jelly | apt-problem: pastebin the outputs of: "apt-cache policy" "apt-cache policy context tex-common dpkg libc6 apt", preferably in a single pastebin |
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| 17:23.36 | apt-problem | anykind of package I want to install, whjich need any lib what's on backports :) |
| 17:23.37 | Iridos | well, probably not as good a question as "why do you have packages from testing" |
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| 17:23.58 | johnjay | oh no, i have so many orphaned inodes that need a home |
| 17:24.32 | jelly | johnjay: too late, they were slaughtered already by the time you noticed it |
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| 17:24.59 | Iridos | maybe you need a major general⦠|
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| 17:27.09 | apt-problem | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/998385/ - apt policies , and I think it was because of libc |
| 17:28.31 | jelly | apt-problem: you seem to have a mix of "testing" (buster, to become debian 10 in time) and "jessie" (debian 8) sources, this is not supported |
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| 17:28.49 | jelly | you never upgraded to stretch apparently |
| 17:29.46 | jelly | apt-problem: I'd suggest a reinstallation, untangling this will be problematic over irc |
| 17:30.53 | jelly | skipping a release can lead to all sorts of interesting issues |
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| 17:31.54 | castleguard | jelly, I installed libx11-dev, but then I had another missing file. I googled the error, found a util called apt-file, and used apt-file search Xft.h to find the next missing file. :) Pretty slick util. :) |
| 17:32.42 | jelly | castleguard: it is! You can also ask the bot in here, eg: /msg judd file Xft/Xft.h |
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| 17:33.48 | castleguard | awesome ty |
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| 17:35.14 | apt-problem | jelly: untagling? |
| 17:35.26 | apt-problem | reinstallation? |
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| 17:35.57 | apt-problem | damn |
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| 17:37.41 | jelly | apt-problem: this is just one symptom; there are likely other inconsistencies on this installation caused by partial upgrade of stuff from debian 8 to not-yet-10 |
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| 17:38.48 | Iridos | apt-problem, you're definitely not on debian stable⦠in the best case you're on debian testing |
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| 17:39.19 | jelly | apt-problem: if you want to experiment, it might be an interesting exercise to remove testing and jessie repos, set up stretch (debian 9, current stable) and try to do a release upgrade to that. |
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| 17:40.17 | Iridos | dpkg, debian clone |
| 17:40.17 | dpkg | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>. |
| 17:40.32 | Iridos | apt-problem, ^^^ if you reinstall, you can get your old package selection using this |
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| 17:41.23 | Iridos | apt-problem, before that, you probably need to get apt/dpkg into a sane state again⦠you can just do that by putting "exit 0" in the 2nd line of that postrm script (but whatever that script was supposed to do doesn't get done) |
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| 17:41.57 | apt-problem | uiui |
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| 17:42.19 | apt-problem | jelly: I will test a little bit :) |
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| 17:45.38 | apt-problem | Iridos: |
| 17:46.03 | apt-problem | Iridos: I have put exit 0 on it and make now an upgrade :/ |
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| 17:54.10 | donofrio | If anyone has an idea of what I can try to fix this issue I'm game to try anything -=- exo-open --launch WebBrowser %u from terminal, trying to troubleshoot why when I run "Debian default browser" from the menu I get "Input/output" dialog but when I run from terminal it just states that |
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| 17:54.56 | Iridos | apt-problem, you should reinstall and use the debian clone stuff to get the same packages as before |
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| 18:00.00 | donofrio | Iridos, thank you for the suggestion but this is not an apt-clone its the os command called clone (http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/clone.2.html) |
| 18:00.22 | apt-problem | Iridos: okay, but until know everything is fine. exit 0 is good *g |
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| 18:19.44 | teraflops | ^ |
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| 18:37.18 | donofrio | anyone here use remmina and have hard time when you set prefrences for ssh_color_scheme=6 and then set to green on black when I do this and do an ls -lsart I see the timestamp but the filesnames are blacked out ;( |
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| 18:41.44 | Caterpillar | hi there, I need help in finding qesteidutil Debian maintainer. |
| 18:41.49 | Caterpillar | thank you |
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| 18:44.45 | petn-randall | Caterpillar: What do you need to find them? |
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| 18:44.52 | petn-randall | ,v qesteidutil |
| 18:44.53 | judd | No package named 'qesteidutil' was found in amd64. |
| 18:45.08 | petn-randall | Caterpillar: There's also no package named like that in Debian, might make it difficult. |
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| 18:46.07 | Caterpillar | petn-randall: it should exist. I am one of package maintainers for Fedora and I need a suggestion from Debian maintainer of such package |
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| 18:51.26 | Kobaz | what repo can i get docker-compose from in jessie ? |
| 18:52.02 | castleguard | I'm looking for a text editor that is as simple as gedit or nano, and that has shift-left/right to select whole words, ctrl-shift-home to highlight everything from current cursor position to the top of the doco, etc. basically notepad but for terminals. I don't want to learn vi or emacs just yet. Any suggestions? |
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| 18:52.42 | jelly | apt-problem: apt-cache policy output shows which repos you have configured, and installed and available package versions provide further clues |
| 18:52.43 | castleguard | I want one for the terminal and then one for x-server (but I don't have gnome, kde, qt, or gtk installed and I'd like to avoid that for now) |
| 18:53.26 | petn-randall | Caterpillar: Maybe it has a different name? You can use the web frontend to search for it: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=qesteidutil&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 18:54.06 | jelly | apt-problem: read these: /msg dpkg partial downgrade, /msg dpkg jessie->stretch and /msg dpkg stretch sources.list |
| 18:54.14 | petn-randall | Caterpillar: It *does* exist in Ubuntu, but not in Debian, not even in unstable. |
| 18:54.24 | jelly | apt-problem: but the sanest thing to do is reinstall |
| 18:54.28 | Caterpillar | petn-randall: thank you for the info |
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| 19:04.01 | castleguard | When installing firefox, do you use firefox-esr? |
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| 19:05.16 | petn-randall | Caterpillar: You're welcome. If the Ubuntu maintainer wants to get the package into Debian, they're also free to do so. Just hit me up then. |
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| 19:06.00 | petn-randall | castleguard: There's only firefox-esr in stable, so you'd have to be running sid to install the non-esr firefox. |
| 19:08.39 | castleguard | petn-randall, can I go to firefox website and download/execute the version there directly? |
| 19:08.51 | DK2 | i need to force traffic from a application trough a separate NIC. can i theoretically force traffic for IP 222.222.222.222 to to a gateway 192.168.10.1 which then acts as a proxy to 200.200.200.200? |
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| 19:10.09 | petn-randall | castleguard: Sure, but won't don't really encourage it since it leaves the job to update it to the user. |
| 19:10.22 | petn-randall | (think security updates) |
| 19:11.40 | castleguard | ty |
| 19:11.42 | castleguard | yeah |
| 19:11.59 | annadane | firefox doesn't already do that? |
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| 19:13.38 | castleguard | I'm using clang right now, how do I configure apt so that it never installed GCC if something requires it? |
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| 19:17.20 | matrix_architect | petn-randall, it updates automatically |
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| 19:18.53 | BCMM | castleguard: fake it using equivs? |
| 19:19.06 | BCMM | note, this is kind of a bad idea, but i figure you already know that |
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| 19:19.24 | petn-randall | !apt hold |
| 19:19.44 | petn-randall | !hold |
| 19:19.44 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
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| 19:21.26 | BCMM | castleguard: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/blocking-deb-dependencies.html |
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| 19:21.48 | castleguard | BCMM, first I'm a noob, but I come from gentoo so I think there you just flag everything that you want in the package manager and it gives you a lot of control. Now... as a noob, I wasn't successful over there, so... :) No, I don't know, to answer your question. :) |
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| 19:22.45 | petn-randall | castleguard: The better solution is to generally pay attention to what packages get installed or removed, it'll save your system more than once. |
| 19:22.46 | BCMM | castleguard: i'm not really sure why it's a big problem, tbh. since it's not gentoo, there's not a *lot* of packages that pull in GCC anyway |
| 19:24.09 | BCMM | castleguard: and also stuff that depends on GCC might *actually* depend on GCC |
| 19:25.35 | BCMM | castleguard: but basically if you really want to install stuff that deps on gcc but not install gcc, that blog post shows you how to make a fake GCC package so apt thinks gcc is already installed |
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| 19:28.18 | castleguard | BCMM, ty |
| 19:28.23 | BCMM | castleguard: btw USE flags in gentoo are for compile-time-optional dependancies. they don't just let you remove *any* dependency from any package |
| 19:29.17 | BCMM | because some of those dependencies are, in fact, strictly necessary |
| 19:29.27 | castleguard | :) ok |
| 19:29.38 | castleguard | I'm ok with installing something and having it die because it doesn't have a dependency |
| 19:29.42 | BCMM | the gentoo equivalent of this method would probably be abusing package.provided rather than USE |
| 19:29.52 | castleguard | that would be a strong indication that I need to install the dependency |
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| 19:31.00 | castleguard | anyways, thanks, I'll check out the link. I appreciate it. |
| 19:31.30 | BCMM | castleguard: i would also suggest just sort of accepting a lesser degree of control over what packages install |
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| 19:31.59 | BCMM | that's just a trade-off of not running gentoo, with the advantage that life will be a bit easier |
| 19:33.14 | castleguard | bcmm, yeah ty |
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| 19:34.37 | PoSho | can anybody help me please i have this issue when i try to install inspircd -------> can't exec "pcre-config" |
| 19:34.50 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 19:34.51 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 19:35.00 | petn-randall | PoSho: Can you provide all of the above in a single paste? |
| 19:35.24 | jelly | that sounds more like a ./configure/build failure |
| 19:35.38 | PoSho | yup |
| 19:35.49 | jelly | ,v inspircd |
| 19:35.50 | judd | Package: inspircd on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.0.5-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2.0.5-1+deb7u2; jessie: 2.0.17-1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2.0.17-1+deb8u2; stretch: 2.0.23-2; buster: 2.0.24-1; sid: 2.0.24-1 |
| 19:35.52 | PoSho | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:36.08 | petn-randall | PoSho: Any reason you don't just install the package from Debian? |
| 19:36.16 | PoSho | do i need to go to paste.debian |
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| 19:36.43 | PoSho | petn-randall i installed fron a source |
| 19:36.49 | PoSho | using wget |
| 19:36.56 | centrx | why |
| 19:37.01 | jelly | no you didn't, you just grabbed source and unpacked |
| 19:37.09 | PoSho | no i didnt |
| 19:37.12 | jelly | and are now failing to compile it |
| 19:37.22 | petn-randall | PoSho: I guessed that, but I'm wondering why you didn't do 'apt install inspircd'. |
| 19:37.42 | petn-randall | PoSho: Which is a lot easier than compiling from source. |
| 19:37.53 | PoSho | wget https://github.com/inspircd/inspircd/archive/v2.0.21.tar.gz |
| 19:37.58 | jelly | the "install" step cannot be done before building the software succeeds |
| 19:38.07 | PoSho | ok |
| 19:38.10 | PoSho | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.26 | PoSho | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.34 | PoSho | and did that apt-get install |
| 19:38.45 | PoSho | but i cannot find the directory |
| 19:38.55 | PoSho | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.59 | jelly | dpkg -L packagename -- will show the package contents |
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| 19:38.59 | dpkg | No packages found matching packagename -- will show the package contents |
| 19:39.03 | petn-randall | PoSho: Great, now you can delete all those files you downloaded and just use the installed version. |
| 19:39.33 | PoSho | i did deleted everything i downloaded using wget |
| 19:39.49 | PoSho | but i cant find the package that i installed from apt-get |
| 19:40.01 | PoSho | thats what i have trouble with too |
| 19:40.25 | centrx | inspircd is in Debian, install the Debian package with apt-get |
| 19:40.37 | PoSho | i did |
| 19:40.39 | PoSho | that |
| 19:40.52 | centrx | Then you don't need to install it from source |
| 19:40.54 | jelly | PoSho: now look at the installed package contents. |
| 19:41.29 | PoSho | alright |
| 19:41.32 | PoSho | i did find it |
| 19:41.33 | PoSho | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.45 | PoSho | ill be back if i need more |
| 19:41.48 | jelly | and look at /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian* for debian-specific clues |
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| 19:43.57 | marsupapu | Hey, is it possible to lock application volume so that adjusting volume via applets or keyboard hotkeys only affects master channel and not both master and active application? Nowadays I often end up with different volume levels on different applications, witch is not nice. |
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| 19:46.01 | zophyx | sez: howdy ya'll |
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| 19:49.16 | teraflops | marsupapu: try setting flat-volumes = no in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf |
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| 19:51.51 | PoSho | i cant configure the file inspircd its says that is on DOS or MAC format |
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| 19:55.17 | marsupapu | teraflops: thanks, I'll reboot to check |
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| 19:58.09 | teraflops | pulseadio -k ⦠|
| 19:58.11 | marsupapu | teraflops: Thank you, working like a charm |
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| 19:58.31 | teraflops | pulseaudio -k was enough |
| 19:58.35 | gsdfgsdfgs | if I am going to get build-essentials is there any point in getting clang? |
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| 19:59.08 | teraflops | marsupapu: debian uses flat-volumes which imho sucks |
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| 20:00.29 | PoSho | how do i do this -----> Please configure inspircd first and edit /etc/default/inspircd, otherwise inspircd won't startpos |
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| 20:01.27 | marsupapu | teraflops: Sorry, I was a bit early. Still not working as I would like, adjusting volume still adusts in-app volume also |
| 20:02.05 | teraflops | marsupapu: yeah it's the closer thing you can get |
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| 20:02.19 | teraflops | afaik |
| 20:02.39 | teraflops | or go use alsa I guess |
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| 20:02.50 | marsupapu | Really? I've used debian few versions back and I don't remember the issue |
| 20:03.02 | teraflops | the issue is� |
| 20:03.18 | teraflops | this is a feature |
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| 20:04.55 | teraflops | marsupapu: using pulseadio? or using alsa? (few versions back) |
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| 20:10.33 | marsupapu | Can't recall |
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| 20:11.38 | teraflops | bets alsa |
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| 20:12.31 | marsupapu | Propably |
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| 20:23.32 | linuxthefish | hey, when running "ln -s / dev / null /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link" on debian 9.2 I get the error "ln: target '/etc/systemd/network/99-default.link' is not a directory" any ideas? |
| 20:24.09 | linuxthefish | i just want to get my wireless to work like it did on my old install, why did someone come up with the idea of silly names like wlx74da3833b07a# |
| 20:24.10 | BCMM | linuxthefish: why are there spaces in / dev / null? |
| 20:24.55 | linuxthefish | oh BCMM i was copying from https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/06/msg01045.html |
| 20:25.01 | linuxthefish | i'll try withot space thanks |
| 20:25.14 | greycat | /dev/null should definitely be one word |
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| 20:25.41 | BCMM | linuxthefish: if that command is quoted precisely as you entered it, then what you have tried to do is create links to /, dev, / again and null, and place them in the directory /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link |
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| 20:26.32 | linuxthefish | ah perfect works now, too tired :( |
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| 21:03.11 | frazr | Anyone running a new laptop with docking station + 2 monitors here? trying to find a laptop that works well with this setup |
| 21:03.54 | tremolo | Sure, although I don't use the laptop screen while it's docked. |
| 21:04.15 | frazr | yeah, i wont either |
| 21:04.20 | frazr | just use the 2 external ones |
| 21:05.32 | tremolo | Mine's an HP EliteBook 2540p, got it with a docking station from my wife's previous employer for $100 when they retired it. |
| 21:06.13 | frazr | thats not my defenition of a new laptop |
| 21:06.15 | frazr | :) |
| 21:06.24 | tremolo | I accidentally a word. |
| 21:06.29 | tremolo | Sorry >.> |
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| 21:12.17 | UnixMonky | I'm using a dell E6540 with the replicator and 2x monitors. That works well. |
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| 21:24.05 | zerocool | hi there, anyone know how i can get the debian install splash to automatically continue to the install. stretch will sit at the splash screen until someone selects install. |
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| 21:33.09 | RoyK | hm - seems I'm getting this when attempting to install ubuntu 16.04 in a kvm/libvirt vm on jessie: Checking installer location failed: Could not find media '/data/iso/Linux/x64/Ubuntu/ubuntu-16.04.3-server-amd64.iso'. |
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| 21:33.13 | RoyK | never seen that one before |
| 21:34.19 | greycat | sounds like something in the ubuntu installer |
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| 21:37.10 | RoyK | greycat: problem is that 'something' isn't quite good enough - any idea where I can find logs on this? |
| 21:37.18 | greycat | ask #ubuntu |
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| 21:57.27 | zerocool | RoyK: is the iso there, do permissions allow libvirt-qemu access? |
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| 22:06.16 | RoyK | zerocool: yes |
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| 22:14.55 | castleguard | kinda funny question, but how do you quit surf browser? :) I can't figure it out and I believe 'quit' 'shut' and 'exit' don't come up in the man page |
| 22:15.02 | castleguard | if anyone here uses it |
| 22:15.21 | mspo | https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList <- should I just always use stretch-updates and the "security" versions? |
| 22:16.00 | ryouma | castleguard: have not even heard of it. a klingon would use pkill. |
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| 22:16.18 | mspo | so I'd have, like, deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main contrib non-free |
| 22:16.42 | mspo | should I put stretch-updates in there? |
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| 22:17.04 | mspo | and what's the deal with security.debian.org? |
| 22:17.30 | ryouma | castleguard: your wm could close it |
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| 22:27.24 | castleguard | ryouma, ty. didn't see it in jobs, I believe I would see it in ps, googling the difference between those two and checking manpages now. :) |
| 22:27.51 | ryouma | jobs is just the shell' |
| 22:28.04 | ryouma | pgrep |
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| 22:34.05 | castleguard | I'll check that out |
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| 22:49.53 | a228 | how do i download a git tree? |
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| 22:53.39 | a228 | i downloaded a repository but not the branch |
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| 22:57.41 | a228 | anyone? |
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| 23:02.57 | dTal | a228: try #git |
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| 23:13.38 | booyah | debian 9 sucks |
| 23:13.56 | eck | rude |
| 23:14.02 | booyah | it's true tho |
| 23:14.11 | booyah | several things broke on upgrade from deb8 |
| 23:14.26 | eck | like what |
| 23:14.36 | booyah | logging into several X displays |
| 23:14.52 | booyah | when they lock-screen (screensaver?) then there is no way to unlock them |
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| 23:14.57 | booyah | and you need to killall -u .... -9 |
| 23:15.10 | eck | i guess you'll have to switch to slackware |
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| 23:15.47 | booyah | too bad there isn't something exactly like debian, but less systemd/bullshit, and more polish |
| 23:16.04 | eck | it exists, it's called slackware |
| 23:16.06 | eck | you're going to love it |
| 23:16.25 | booyah | hmm |
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| 23:51.46 | d3l1ght | and devuan bru |
| 23:51.48 | d3l1ght | :P |
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| 23:57.57 | karstenk | My Postfix wont start, no port 25 open, so cant telnet. no error in log. what can I do? |
| 23:58.17 | karstenk | service postfix status say active |
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