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| 00:25.57 | zokum | i am running NAT to a smalll LAN on a debian box. I am getting decent download speeds, but horrible upload speeds. This was not the case on my linksys router. Downloads are about 40 times faster on a symmetrical connection. Any ideas about what might cause it and how I can debug this? |
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| 00:28.25 | abrotman | zokum: you've checked for packet loss, etc? |
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| 00:28.48 | abrotman | you're going to end up probably using tcpdump to see what's going on |
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| 00:30.16 | zokum | abrotman: ifconfig reports 0 errors and 0 losse |
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| 00:30.58 | zokum | and the problem is the same from both windows and linux machines |
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| 00:31.57 | zokum | according to iftop, there's not a lot going on |
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| 00:32.35 | abrotman | time for tcpdump |
| 00:32.57 | zokum | ok, any pointers on what exactly to dump/look for? |
| 00:33.33 | DerLGm | zokum: look at the IP address and other stats |
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| 00:38.07 | zokum | only thing i can see is that once in a while it does: ack 1, win 60, length 2920 instead of length 1460 |
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| 00:40.51 | pandy2 | Hello |
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| 00:41.19 | pandy2 | I'm back and still fighting with debian ;-) |
| 00:41.31 | awal1 | how can I check which pkg created x file ? |
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| 00:42.40 | pandy2 | here is the problem: |
| 00:42.45 | pandy2 | W: http://debian.mirror.rafal.ca/debian/dists/stretch/Release.gpg: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key. |
| 00:42.53 | pandy2 | what that means ? |
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| 00:43.33 | pandy2 | i'm in debian stretch kde |
| 00:43.54 | pandy2 | anyone, please&thank you! |
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| 00:47.15 | LtL | pandy2: delete /etc/apt/trusted.gpg ; synaptic corrupts it. you can re-create anytime |
| 00:48.18 | LtL | -rw------- 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:15 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
| 00:48.49 | LtL | pandy2: if it has binary characters in it, it's toast. |
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| 00:50.57 | luke-work | Hi everyone |
| 00:51.25 | bazhang | hi |
| 00:51.45 | pandy2 | LtL, do i do 'rm /etc/apt/trusted.gpg' as root ? |
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| 00:52.04 | LtL | pandy2: correct |
| 00:53.04 | Argus | Is anyone knowledgeable of display servers? I have some major concerns about / criticisms of Wayland, but I want a sanity check. |
| 00:54.50 | pandy2 | LtL, thanks alot |
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| 00:54.59 | LtL | pandy2: welcome |
| 00:55.44 | zokum | DerLGm: i might have it here, it often gets the tcp checksums incorrect |
| 00:56.09 | zokum | this happens on the packets that have double length |
| 00:57.37 | pandy2 | question: when i hover with mouse over panel bar it displays large icons of applications and a huge ones of the ones that are open, how can i change that, for smaller ? |
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| 01:00.11 | zokum | maybe the nic is, well, crap |
| 01:01.01 | LtL | pandy2: a different theme possibly, or tweak the one you use. |
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| 01:02.58 | abrotman | zokum: MTU perhaps? |
| 01:03.44 | zokum | mtus are fine |
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| 01:05.40 | zokum | my setup is linux box -> 1gbps -> linux gateway -> 100mbps -> bridge -> 45mbps fiber optic connection |
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| 01:16.11 | pandy2 | problem, when trying to remove kmail using apper, iget message that apper and some 300 packages will be removed too ? any solution? thanks |
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| 01:18.03 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pandy2 about unmarkauto |
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| 01:21.43 | pandy2 | abrotman, google shows it is a bug #372184, i'm too week to deal with bugs |
| 01:21.44 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/372184 in aptitude (closed): «aptitude: unmarkauto does not work correctly from the command line»; severity: normal; opened: 2006-06-08; last modified: 2016-02-18. |
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| 01:23.42 | pandy2 | i guess i just hide unused applications in menu |
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| 01:26.44 | abrotman | pandy2: that bug is closed, and likely doesn't affect you |
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| 01:31.20 | RoyK | people paranoid of bugs should use DOS 6.22 with word perfect - no internet access, no problems with bugs |
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| 01:32.34 | pandy2 | RoyK, is that what you are planning for ? lol |
| 01:33.18 | RoyK | nope |
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| 01:35.13 | RoyK | pandy2: btw, on ISS, they are still on debian Squeeze, just because it's a wee bit expensive to send someone up there to fix things |
| 01:35.54 | RoyK | http://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/International-Space-Station-adopts-Debian-Linux-drops-Windows-Red-Hat-into-airlock |
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| 01:42.35 | ealfonso | why does debian make me have messed up java/javac incompatible versions? $ java -version => openjdk version "1.8.0_131" ; $ javac -version javac 1.7.0_111 |
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| 01:43.13 | RoyK | probably because you have installed different packages |
| 01:43.23 | RoyK | and then - why do you want java? |
| 01:44.03 | abrotman | ealfonso: incompatible with what? |
| 01:44.13 | abrotman | RoyK: You're not helping, probably easier for you to keep quiet |
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| 01:44.18 | ealfonso | RoyK so if I use debian I shouldn't use java? abrotman between each other |
| 01:44.32 | abrotman | ealfonso: ignore RoyK |
| 01:44.58 | abrotman | ealfonso: how did you install the java packages? |
| 01:45.52 | ealfonso | probably through apt-get, I have both 8 and 7. I'm purging 7 now to see if it works |
| 01:46.13 | ealfonso | it does |
| 01:46.16 | RoyK | abrotman: sorry, and for ealfonso, java can be installed with multiple versions at once |
| 01:46.18 | abrotman | Is one the JRE, the other the JDK? |
| 01:47.01 | ealfonso | jre and jdk for both 7 and 8. purging 7 jre (which was probably providing javac) seems to work |
| 01:47.33 | abrotman | there is update-java-alternatives |
| 01:47.45 | ealfonso | i'm sure there's something better than purging jre 8, maybe using update-alternatives. but update-alternatives always proves to be too complicated |
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| 01:48.33 | ealfonso | which is evidenced by the need for a wrapper on top of update-alternatives |
| 01:48.36 | abrotman | update-java-alternatives |
| 01:49.00 | ealfonso | abrotman ok. I'll try that the next time I run into this issue |
| 01:49.03 | ealfonso | abrotman thanks |
| 01:49.15 | abrotman | ealfonso: but at this point, I'd probably try to avoid java7 if you can |
| 01:49.20 | abrotman | unless you have an older app that needs it |
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| 01:49.43 | HeXiLeD | looking for a tool like https://sourceforge.net/projects/utimer for debian. Anyone knows of an equivalent ? |
| 01:50.50 | abrotman | HeXiLeD: you want a console timer? |
| 01:51.15 | HeXiLeD | well yah. i use utimer in other distros but debian does not have it in the repos |
| 01:51.29 | abrotman | to what granularity? |
| 01:52.13 | RoyK | I confess: I have java myself, just to be able to run the arduino IDE - haven't bothered to setup anything better |
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| 01:53.04 | HeXiLeD | abrotman: not in repos |
| 01:53.10 | abrotman | I meant the time |
| 01:53.20 | abrotman | seconds? millisec? |
| 01:53.34 | HeXiLeD | secs and hours |
| 01:54.10 | abrotman | I mean, I'd think that would be easy enough to write. But anyway, you could also package it yourself, or file an RFP |
| 01:54.14 | HeXiLeD | example : https://dpaste.de/WSPY |
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| 01:57.51 | pandy2 | anyone knows channel hardware? how to post in there? |
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| 01:59.23 | abrotman | pandy2: in #hwardware? |
| 01:59.29 | abrotman | #hardware |
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| 01:59.32 | pandy2 | yes |
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| 02:00.53 | abrotman | pandy2: you might have to wait for someone to give you voice, I haven't been there in ages. Maybe ask #freenode |
| 02:01.03 | Tramp | maybe ##hardware requires authentication with nickserv? |
| 02:01.43 | pandy2 | i forgot my pass with nickserve |
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| 02:02.38 | Tramp | pandy2: msg nickserv help sendpass |
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| 02:04.11 | pandy2 | will thet send it to my email? |
| 02:05.07 | annadane | iirc yes |
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| 02:08.44 | Tramp | as the help clearly says: No. |
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| 02:09.30 | Tramp | is it asked too much these days to type (or even cut'n past) 4 wwords and then read the 8 lines of output?? |
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| 02:10.32 | pandy2 | annadane, i typed: /msg msg nickserv help sendpass but got no mail |
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| 02:11.38 | dTal | why would you type /msg msg |
| 02:11.42 | annadane | pandy2, well, just typing help sendpass won't do it |
| 02:11.48 | dTal | you're messaging nickserve |
| 02:11.51 | annadane | you need to read the help instructions |
| 02:11.54 | annadane | also, what dTal said |
| 02:13.25 | dTal | fwiw it's just /msg nickserv sendpass <nick> |
| 02:13.55 | dTal | hmm, I wonder if that works for anyone, could you spam someone's email by repeatedly sending that to nickserv? |
| 02:14.37 | LtL | pandy2: /msg NickServ SENDPASS thenickyouregistered # it will send you a key to your email to reset passd |
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| 02:23.34 | pandy2 | q |
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| 02:29.38 | annadane | pandy2, and when you authenticate for the love of god do not type your password in the main channel by mistake |
| 02:29.45 | annadane | just open a dialog window with nickserv |
| 02:30.52 | pandy2 | i'm trying but troubles, could you right a sample please |
| 02:31.19 | annadane | er |
| 02:31.28 | annadane | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.39 | annadane | which you would know if you /msg nickserv help |
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| 02:34.14 | bazhang | pandy2, you really could ask for help on #freenode |
| 02:34.25 | bazhang | they are the experts at this |
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| 02:56.12 | racar | Hey guys, having some issue with dns/avahi-demon etc ... I'm running docker and after 30-45 seconds, i get this : https://pastebin.com/9AJ7chB4 and the internet is gone (in my docker container and on my host). Any ideas ? thx |
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| 02:59.58 | racar | it's only when i'm connected via wifi ( everytime i need to edit resolv.conf and change to google dns) but if i'm using my phone via usb ... i don't get this issue. |
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| 03:25.49 | foul_owl | How do I preseed ssid and psk? |
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| 03:28.51 | aedinius | Anyone running virtualbox w/ i3wm? |
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| 03:37.12 | awal1 | dpkg: ask |
| 03:37.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:37.20 | awal1 | aedinius ^ |
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| 03:41.10 | aedinius | I have a problem with VirtualBox; I'm running Debian version 8 (jessie) and 9 (stretch). When I try to run a virtual machine, it's unusable. It's the same issue that people have been bitchin about for two years now, I'm hoping someone might have had a fix |
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| 03:48.17 | annadane | aedinius, what do you mean 8 *and* 9? multiboot? different computers? |
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| 03:49.19 | aedinius | different computers |
| 03:49.33 | aedinius | It seems to be working if I don't use the debian package |
| 03:49.47 | aedinius | I guess they fixed it in the last update |
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| 04:49.43 | kion | Hello how can I install XFCE desktop? |
| 04:49.55 | annadane | kion, apt install xfce4 |
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| 04:50.21 | kion | annadane, thanks! is that lighter than lxde? |
| 04:50.24 | annadane | and apt install xfce4-goodies if you want other programs to go along with it |
| 04:50.32 | annadane | kion, i think lxde is supposed to be lighter |
| 04:50.39 | annadane | but my experience with it isn't vast |
| 04:50.43 | kion | thanks annadane |
| 04:51.07 | annadane | i personally wouldn't use lxde because i find it ugly compared to xfce but to each their own |
| 04:51.41 | kion | yes I will do xfce |
| 04:51.47 | kion | thanks annadane |
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| 04:52.47 | kion | annadane, can I get rid of gnome3 after installing xfce4? |
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| 04:55.09 | annadane | kion, yeah though i'm not sure it's as simple as apt purge gnome, it depends how it was installed |
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| 04:55.19 | annadane | if you installed it via the installer it's maybe tasksel remove gnome or such |
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| 04:55.30 | annadane | gnome has a lot of dependencies |
| 04:55.52 | annadane | s/remove/purge, whatever you prefer, i usually just use purge |
| 04:56.26 | awal1 | kion, yeah you can |
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| 04:57.59 | awal1 | usually I use 'script' during installs, almost for metapkgs |
| 04:58.15 | awal1 | it facilitates removals |
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| 05:00.24 | awal1 | kion, just apt* purge / autoremove will purge almost just half o gnome metapkg |
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| 05:00.53 | awal1 | you will have to dig more on aptitude and combine it with dpkg |
| 05:02.39 | awal1 | on/with |
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| 05:04.49 | theman2 | Connection failed ((336130315) error:1408F10B:SSL routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number) whenever I try to login with hexchat |
| 05:04.57 | theman2 | why? Any ideas? |
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| 05:40.39 | gnomehater | Hey all. I usually run ratpoison as a window manager, but yesterday I installed a couple other ones (lxde, fluxbox, xfce that I can recall), and maybe some other software. I rebooted my computer just now and I had a gnome login and a gnome desktop. Now, I don't mind leaving gnome installed, but how can I revert to where I'm back to a console logon and manually running startx? |
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| 05:41.39 | M2o45ip15oi25po2 | gnomehater: Did you install Debian with gnome in the installer? |
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| 05:42.40 | gnomehater | M2o45ip15oi25po2: No. Debian has been installed on this machine for a few months now. I'm guessing something I installed yesterday had gnome as a dependency, and it took over a bunch of shit I didn't want it to. |
| 05:42.50 | somiaj | !nodm |
| 05:42.51 | dpkg | In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (https://github.com/spanezz/nodm). |
| 05:43.10 | somiaj | gnomehater: just put 'false' in /etc/X11/default-display-manager shoudl be sufficent to get no dm on boot |
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| 05:45.04 | gnomehater | somiaj: cool, thanks |
| 05:45.43 | M2o45ip15oi25po2 | Be advised: "On a normal computer, using nodm is a big security issue because it would give anyone access to the computer." |
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| 05:46.04 | somiaj | my suggestion was not to use nodm, that facotid jsut contains the info on how to disable all dms. |
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| 06:26.20 | jpegrpg | What is the safest way to go about allowing a user ftp access to /var/www/html/? Before I would just add them to www-data group and change the folder to 775 but now it's owned by root:root |
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| 06:27.40 | xormor | jpegrpg, sudo chown root:www-data /var/www/html? |
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| 06:28.19 | jpegrpg | I was going to do that but I wasn't sure. It use to be www-data:www-data but that was changed for a reason so I wanted to double check. |
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| 07:30.41 | Rico | hi |
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| 07:44.29 | zentris | Does anyone here have a Ryzen CPU that segfaults, especially via kill-ryzen script? |
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| 08:05.42 | xantoz_w | hi. I need to install gcc-5, or maybe even 4 on stretch, but I can't find any packages for it. What should I be looking for? Am I missing something in sources.list? |
| 08:06.05 | xantoz_w | the only thing (apt-cache search) is gcc-5-doc |
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| 08:16.53 | jelly | xantoz_w: set up a chroot with an old debian release, probably, and install it there |
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| 08:18.10 | jelly | ,v gcc |
| 08:18.11 | judd | Package: gcc on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; stretch: 4:6.3.0-4; buster: 4:7.2.0-1d1; sid: 4:7.2.0-1d1 |
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| 08:51.22 | dcpc007 | it works only with SMB1 currently ... |
| 08:51.49 | dcpc007 | and Windows 10 has no SMBv1 activated by default (and should not) |
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| 08:55.28 | newest | Hi guys. Any of you familiar with RAID5? |
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| 09:00.24 | Iridos | judd, versions samba |
| 09:00.25 | judd | Package: samba on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u7; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u15; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u6; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u9; jessie-security: 2:4.2.14+dfsg-0+deb8u9; stretch: 2:4.5.12+dfsg-2; stretch-proposed-updates: 2:4.5.12+dfsg-2+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2:4.5.12+dfsg-2+deb9u1; buster: |
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| 09:15.19 | darxmurf | depends ? |
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| 09:22.31 | darxmurf | I'm a bit surprised, I linked 2 machines with 10Gb interface, both are configured with RAID6 and via rsync:// I can't copy faster than 200 MB/s |
| 09:22.37 | darxmurf | I expected a bit more :-/ |
| 09:23.22 | JustASlacker | that should be faster |
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| 09:24.41 | darxmurf | hmmm is rsync SMP compatible ? |
| 09:24.58 | darxmurf | on the "old" server it's using 100% of one CPU |
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| 09:26.25 | dff | i want to migrate off an old HD to a new SSD, if i want an exact copy, bootable and all, is it enough to format the new disk in the same filesystem and do a dd? |
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| 09:30.08 | darxmurf | you can use clonezilla |
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| 09:36.31 | JustASlacker | if you use dd, you dont need to format |
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| 09:37.17 | JustASlacker | depending on how you boot, it should be enough to copy all the files and do a grup-update |
| 09:37.19 | n4dir | dff: i never did it with dd, usually with rsync. I sometimes have to a) edit /etc/fstab and b) reinstall grub and c) rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net-rules |
| 09:37.25 | JustASlacker | a dd might work as well |
| 09:37.35 | JustASlacker | probably best to use a tool, tho |
| 09:38.22 | n4dir | just saying: if problems occur, the three mentioned points are something you might want to look into. |
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| 09:43.40 | dff | JustASlacker: what would be the option if I just want to save all my configs |
| 09:43.45 | dff | tar /etc/ ? |
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| 09:45.37 | JustASlacker | nods |
| 09:45.50 | JustASlacker | you can think about using something like etckeeper in future |
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| 09:46.57 | JustASlacker | tar czf etc_$HOSTNAME /etc |
| 09:47.20 | darxmurf | nothing I can do to force rsync to use all the CPU ? |
| 09:47.40 | JustASlacker | the bottleneck is not cpu |
| 09:48.02 | JustASlacker | tried nfs or scp ? |
| 09:48.12 | obitech | Hey guys, I have a question regarding the Debian Policy Maintainer Script Flowchart (https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#maintainer-script-flowcharts), specifically 'Upgrade of foo 1.2-3 to 1.2-4'. |
| 09:48.12 | obitech | What does the notation '1.2-3 -> prerm upgrade 1.2-4' mean? Does it run the 'prerm upgrade' script from 1.2-4 or 1.2-3 ? I find this arrow notation somewhat confusing |
| 09:48.53 | fredl | well... |
| 09:49.02 | fredl | 200MB/s is quite fast |
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| 09:49.45 | fredl | hardware RAID6? |
| 09:49.53 | ivan | oh yeah why doesn't debian install etckeeper by default |
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| 09:50.55 | themill | obitech: it's a flow sheet and OK/FAILED are the outcomes of each step |
| 09:51.28 | ivan | darxmurf: are you using rsync -X / --xattrs by chance? |
| 09:51.45 | ivan | oh never mind I see 200 MB/s above, can't be the problem |
| 09:52.00 | obitech | I get that, but I'd like to know from which package (installed or upgrade) the 'prerm upgrade' script gets executed in its first step |
| 09:52.08 | ivan | darxmurf: you might want to tar over netcat or something |
| 09:52.19 | themill | obitech: there is only one package considered in the flow sheet |
| 09:52.49 | obitech | so all scripts are part of the newer version ? |
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| 09:52.55 | JustASlacker | could try cat /dev/null | netcat |
| 09:53.02 | themill | obitech: "all scripts"? |
| 09:53.02 | JustASlacker | or /dev/random |
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| 09:54.18 | obitech | ok so in my prerm maintainer script I can test for if [ $1 == "upgrade" ] and do certain things, right ? there are different calls for prerm like upgrade or failed-upgrade etc |
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| 09:55.30 | obitech | afaik the flowchart tells me which maintainer scripts get called with which parameters at certain steps. Like before 1.2-4 runs postinst configure, it runs the prerm upgrade from 1.2-3 |
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| 09:55.48 | themill | that's exactly what they are showing |
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| 09:56.49 | obitech | so does in the flowchart, does '1.2-3 -> prerm upgrade 1.2-4' mean call the prerm upgrade script from 1.2-4? and '1.2-4 -> prerm failed-upgrade 1.2-3' means call the prerm failed-upgrade script from 1.2-4 ? |
| 09:56.53 | themill | You should also look at §6.5 |
| 09:57.06 | themill | no, yes |
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| 09:58.37 | themill | If you know C++, think of the -> in that sense. |
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| 09:59.06 | themill | I assume that's what you mean by the arrow notation not the actual arrows? |
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| 09:59.28 | darxmurf | ivan: rsync -av --numeric-ids rsync://backup@<ip> |
| 09:59.37 | obitech | not the actual arrows, rather what's written in the bubbles |
| 10:00.04 | n4dir | the simple [ instead of [[ seems to indicate you want it to be posix compatible. I think in that case you would want case to do pattern matching, obitech |
| 10:00.23 | themill | obitech: yeah, so 1.2-3->prerm means the prerm of 1.2-3 |
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| 10:00.42 | obitech | thanks themill, n4dir ! |
| 10:00.51 | obitech | I'll have a look at §6 as well |
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| 10:03.15 | fredl | hmmm 9p is kinda cool |
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| 10:04.33 | fredl | it certainly is a lot faster than trying to do NFS from a virt to its own host. |
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| 10:04.47 | fredl | coz that's unfathomably slow for some reason |
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| 10:09.06 | Iridos | dpkg, flash stretch |
| 10:09.06 | dpkg | flash stretch is, like, flashplugin-nofree package has been broken for months and was not included in stretch. To install manually obtain the flash plugin (npapi tar.gz) from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions and unpack libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ (for firefox) |
| 10:09.12 | Iridos | any additional info on that? |
| 10:09.37 | Iridos | I'm getting daily messages from cron that ERROR: wget failed to download http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/D5C0FC14/fp.27.0.0.183.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc |
| 10:09.55 | Iridos | I don't get that splendid system anyway |
| 10:10.17 | Iridos | judd, versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 10:10.19 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6.1+deb8u1; sid/contrib: 1:3.7 |
| 10:10.40 | Iridos | hm, what about the one from sid? |
| 10:10.46 | Iridos | this is some stupid script anyway |
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| 10:11.16 | jelly | it was needlessly complex and instead of maintainer updating the package, relied on package relying on maintainer updating a db of verified downloads on their private web page |
| 10:11.37 | themill | It has a human verification step in there so to provide you with a trust path for the download. That was also a SPOF. |
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| 10:12.34 | Iridos | that seems⦠ideal |
| 10:12.50 | themill | Randomly downloading something as root via http is also ⦠'ideal'. |
| 10:12.52 | jelly | I honestly doubt the maintainer has a source in Adobe that allows them to verify a tarball |
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| 10:13.01 | Iridos | you just waited a bit to now come out with the good news, right? |
| 10:13.24 | themill | pepperflash in sid works? |
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| 10:13.26 | jelly | themill: if you go thru adobe's page, the download comes from https |
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| 10:13.33 | themill | jelly: now, didn't in the past |
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| 10:14.18 | jelly | at least with a package someone could do a nmu |
| 10:14.36 | Iridos | well, someone could and change the url? |
| 10:14.56 | jelly | I don't think a nmu is supposed to change core functionality |
| 10:15.13 | themill | Finding someone silly enough to want the albatross is part of the problem |
| 10:15.13 | Iridos | I guess for now I can just uninstall flashplugin-nonfree? |
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| 10:15.41 | jelly | Iridos: just go download the tarball on your own and unpack the .so in the right place |
| 10:15.42 | Iridos | "core functionality" ⦠the package as it is has functionality? |
| 10:16.19 | Iridos | yes⦠I'm doing that⦠but that doesn't change that I won't go and to that on a daily basis (or ever again) |
| 10:16.22 | themill | a stable-update that fixed this properly would be considered |
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| 10:16.49 | jelly | wonder how ubuntu does it |
| 10:17.00 | themill | but no-one has volunteered to commit to the short-term reworking of the package or the long-term maintenance of it |
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| 10:18.29 | Iridos | um⦠is flash-mozilla.so the renamed libflashplayer.so? |
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| 10:19.45 | fireboi[m] | hi. I have spotted a package that doesn't get updates any more.. meaning the maintener has "abandoned" it.. he hasn't issued a RFA.. how can I help keeping the package up to date? |
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| 10:20.07 | themill | fireboi[m]: which package |
| 10:20.23 | fireboi[m] | qbittorrent |
| 10:20.53 | fireboi[m] | the package is at ver 3.1 while the latest ver is 4.0.2 |
| 10:23.00 | themill | fireboi[m]: how do you figure it doesn't get updates any more? |
| 10:23.40 | fireboi[m] | https://packages.debian.org/sid/qbittorrent |
| 10:24.01 | themill | that doesn't say anything to that point |
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| 10:24.35 | fireboi[m] | https://www.qbittorrent.org/download.php |
| 10:24.40 | themill | that doesn't say anything to that point |
| 10:24.52 | fireboi[m] | scroll down.. latest version 4. 0.2 |
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| 10:25.07 | themill | What makes you say it doesn't get updates any more? |
| 10:25.34 | fireboi[m] | cause it has been in 3.15 for a loong time |
| 10:25.45 | themill | And that was the current version for a loong tiem |
| 10:25.53 | themill | Being a whole 13 days out of date when the maintainers clearly aren't releasing good quality releases is not evidence it is not maintained. |
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| 10:26.21 | ivan | 4.0.x has new bugs like https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/7944 |
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| 10:27.01 | themill | 3.3 â 4.0 is a big upgrade and having 4.0.0 then 4.0.1 then 4.0.1 all come out within 10 days is an indication it probably should not be uploaded to Debian yet |
| 10:27.03 | ivan | qbittorrent is the kind of software that is so buggy you should be happy to have any working version |
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| 10:28.52 | fireboi[m] | see last commit on 3.3.x |
| 10:28.54 | fireboi[m] | https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/commits/v3_3_x |
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| 10:29.03 | fireboi[m] | almost a year ago |
| 10:29.18 | fireboi[m] | and yeah bugs ok that's why we have sid? |
| 10:29.19 | ivan | what? |
| 10:29.40 | ivan | sees Oct 23, 2017 |
| 10:30.33 | themill | fireboi[m]: no, things should only get uploaded to sid if they are suitable for inclusion in the next stable release |
| 10:30.41 | konna44 | hello, what do you think is the problem here: My home server went offline. No ping reply, no SSH, nothing. When I checked it, there was nothing on the screen. No response to any keys. I couldn't hear the hard disk noise so I assume it had stopped but not sure. I shut it down via power button. First restart attempt failed, no POST. Second was successful. I installed some updates, everything OK. |
| 10:31.03 | konna44 | Ran memtest86+, no errors. Ran short and long HDD self tests via smartctl, both passed. After long test, "raw read error rate went from 0 to 65536. Otherwise SMART data is OK. Tried to stress test the HDD by writing large files, no problems. Nothing HDD-related in dmesg, and i also grep'd logs but didn't find anything HDD-related. |
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| 10:32.06 | Iridos | ivan, well, the new year is there⦠and when we have 2018, everything in 2017 will be one year ago |
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| 10:32.34 | fireboi[m] | ivan: ok.. August bd684df3157fdd8c8805aeb98c077d02575bc643 |
| 10:32.54 | fireboi[m] | https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/commit/bd684df3157fdd8c8805aeb98c077d02575bc643 |
| 10:33.44 | ivan | themill: are you sure? there are things like wireguard-tools in sid that are unsuitable and have a grave bug open to prevent them from going into stable |
| 10:33.53 | themill | ivan: yes |
| 10:33.57 | fireboi[m] | themill: experimental then? |
| 10:34.01 | ivan | ok, if there is a rule then it is being broken |
| 10:34.09 | themill | fireboi[m]: I'm not sure what your point is. 4.x doesn't yet look ready for upload and will be uploaded when it and the maintainer is ready. There is nothing to say that the package is not being maintained. |
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| 10:35.42 | fireboi[m] | it should at least be on latest 3.x |
| 10:36.03 | themill | maybe. you're trying to make up something that doesn't exist though |
| 10:36.19 | fireboi[m] | ?? |
| 10:37.18 | themill | Feel free to file a wishlist bug asking for the 4.x series to be uploaded when it is ready |
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| 10:38.43 | fireboi[m] | https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-unstable |
| 10:38.56 | fireboi[m] | while on the Ubuntu side.. |
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| 10:39.11 | themill | That's not ubuntu |
| 10:39.40 | pragomer | can I change from stretch to sid just editing the words "stretch" to "sid" in sources.list and upgrade? |
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| 10:40.28 | themill | pragomer: you should upgrade to buster first. If you feel the need to ask how, you probably should avoid doing so as you'll have a miserable time. |
| 10:40.29 | fireboi[m] | themill: what !? https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-stable |
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| 10:41.16 | pragomer | buster is testing, right? |
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| 10:41.56 | fireboi[m] | sent a long message: fireboi[m]_2017-12-05_10:41:56.txt <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/KfUwIgtnjpDQxGFGnlbhtFFt> |
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| 10:42.36 | themill | fireboi[m]: please take the time to digest what you've been told. |
| 10:43.04 | fireboi[m] | lol |
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| 10:43.09 | petn-randall | !lol |
| 10:43.09 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 10:44.06 | Iridos | bwahahaha |
| 10:44.13 | petn-randall | fireboi[m]: Even Ubuntu doesn't have qbittorrent 4.0 in their repos: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qbittorrent |
| 10:44.15 | Iridos | yeah⦠i feel better now |
| 10:44.17 | aaap | petn-randall : hehehe |
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| 10:44.28 | aaap | petn-randall : jajajajaja |
| 10:44.35 | UukGoblin | where can I find more info on `apt-build` than the manpage (I've found one at http://manpages.org/apt-build)? Can it actually rebuild an entire repository? There's a 'build-repository' command but the manpage doesn't even say how to specify the repository to build... |
| 10:44.41 | aaap | i remember jajajaja was use as laughter too |
| 10:44.46 | UukGoblin | does it support recursive building? |
| 10:45.20 | UukGoblin | oh sorry, there IS a --repository-dir further down, hm |
| 10:46.10 | UukGoblin | but I'm looking for some examples, and a more detailed explanation on how it works |
| 10:46.44 | fireboi[m] | whatever.. might use the pkg PPA |
| 10:46.56 | Iridos | aaap, you can laugh moar in #debian-offtopic, though ⦠seems like it's enough for here at this juncture |
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| 10:47.56 | themill | fireboi[m]: feel free. Don't expect it to work at all, let alone with Debian, and don't hope that #debian can support the mess you will make |
| 10:48.40 | Iridos | mmh. I feel a bit unsure about the flashplayer thing⦠sizes are slightly differing ⦠264320 Dec 20 2016 flash-mozilla.so which I guess was from the plugin(?) and 16543456 Oct 26 03:14 libflashplayer.so |
| 10:48.51 | Iridos | that's only about a factor of 100? |
| 10:49.27 | fireboi[m] | lol ok themill |
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| 10:53.09 | petn-randall | Probably relevant: |
| 10:53.10 | petn-randall | !snss |
| 10:53.11 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 10:53.30 | konna44 | :| |
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| 10:54.01 | Iridos | well, but he's already on sid |
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| 10:54.13 | Iridos | and DAYS have gone by with a new version out that isn't there yet |
| 10:54.18 | Iridos | da horror |
| 10:54.20 | petn-randall | Scandal! |
| 10:54.24 | petn-randall | shakes fist. |
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| 10:57.30 | konna44 | O_o |
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| 10:57.41 | fireboi[m] | Iridos: I'm on buster btw |
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| 11:00.39 | petn-randall | fireboi[m]: You can always compile and install it yourself, I'm sure they have instructions for that. |
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| 11:01.06 | fireboi[m] | ik ik |
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| 11:02.01 | fireboi[m] | what happens btw to the case that a pkg is indeed abandoned? |
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| 11:03.57 | petn-randall | fireboi[m]: Abandoned by whom? |
| 11:04.38 | fireboi[m] | a maintener? |
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| 11:05.13 | themill | fireboi[m]: if that were actually the case, it would get picked up by someone else |
| 11:05.49 | fireboi[m] | with what criteria? |
| 11:06.13 | petn-randall | I don't understand that question. |
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| 11:07.01 | themill | fireboi[m]: actually being abandoned is the criterion. |
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| 11:07.59 | fireboi[m] | like what anyone can pick it up and continue the maintenance? |
| 11:08.08 | themill | !nmg |
| 11:08.09 | dpkg | The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
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| 11:09.04 | konna44 | hello, what do you think is the problem here: My home server went offline. No ping reply, no SSH, nothing. When I checked it, there was nothing on the screen. No response to any keys. I couldn't hear the hard disk noise so I assume it had stopped but not sure. I shut it down via power button. First restart attempt failed, no POST. Second was successful. I installed some updates, everything OK. |
| 11:09.09 | konna44 | Ran memtest86+, no errors. Ran short and long HDD self tests via smartctl, both passed. After long test, "raw read error rate went from 0 to 65536. Otherwise SMART data is OK. Tried to stress test the HDD by writing large files, no problems. Nothing HDD-related in dmesg, and i also grep'd logs but didn't find anything HDD-related. |
| 11:09.50 | fireboi[m] | ok i guess |
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| 11:13.39 | petn-randall | konna44: Maybe just a power outage? |
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| 11:14.23 | konna44 | petn-randall: the computer was on when i reached it, and it's also behind a UPS |
| 11:15.21 | Tarrasquero | konna44: Ran memtest86+, no errors. Ran short and long HDD self tests via smartctl, both passed. After long test, "raw read error rate went from 0 to |
| 11:15.24 | Tarrasquero | 65536. Otherwise SMART data is OK. Tried to stress test the HDD by writing large files, no problems. Nothing HDD-related in dmesg, and i also |
| 11:15.27 | Tarrasquero | grep'd logs but didn't find anything HDD-related. |
| 11:15.34 | Tarrasquero | sry |
| 11:15.42 | Tarrasquero | konna44: check ram memories and clean the connectors with an eraser or some product. |
| 11:16.46 | Tarrasquero | konna44: check cpu temp |
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| 11:17.21 | Tarrasquero | although I lean more for the ram |
| 11:17.24 | konna44 | hm, might try checking the memory modules. CPU temp is around 50 degrees (C) during normal load |
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| 11:18.15 | konna44 | I ran chkrootkit and rkhunter too, neither found definite signs of malware. rkhunter warned about changed files but it might be due to updates. |
| 11:18.26 | Tarrasquero | the temperature is fine |
| 11:19.16 | konna44 | during memtest86+ the HDD stopped. I don't know if this is normal. at least APM is disabled when it boots to Linux |
| 11:19.22 | Tarrasquero | It is unlikely |
| 11:20.41 | Tarrasquero | Is it a desktop? |
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| 11:20.55 | konna44 | no, it's an old laptop. Thinkpad x21 |
| 11:21.08 | Tarrasquero | ah |
| 11:21.17 | petn-randall | konna44: You could check the power voltages with lmsensors. If you don't have any other errors and it just turned off, my guess is that it was power. |
| 11:21.45 | UukGoblin | ok, `apt-build --repository-dir=/mnt/repo/data/debian build-repository` just says "-----> Building repository <-----" and then exits... I very much doubt it built the entire repository in a split-second |
| 11:21.58 | konna44 | sensors command only shows temperatures. |
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| 11:22.51 | UukGoblin | I'm looking for a command that can, erm, rebuild the entire repository from source packages, I'm guessing apt-build is probably not it, even though the man page says "Rebuild the repository" |
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| 11:25.31 | linurandy | the translation that chromium do is online or offline? |
| 11:25.51 | konna44 | i guess it's online |
| 11:25.56 | konna44 | but just my 2 cents |
| 11:26.52 | azarus | Surely it must be online |
| 11:26.57 | konna44 | this doesn't really look like a hacking incident which is good... but i'm still a bit unsure about leaving it on when i'm not at home |
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| 11:36.22 | linurandy | debian 9 with it kernel suppot nvidia geforce mx150 |
| 11:37.17 | linurandy | and SATA3 M.2 SSD of 128GB |
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| 11:46.04 | prashjai | hello, I am seeing a wierd issue of bsddb |
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| 11:46.23 | prashjai | Throws me - Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30973, 'BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored Exception bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: DBRunRecoveryError(-30973, 'BDB0087 DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- BDB0060 PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') in ignored |
| 11:46.39 | prashjai | in a specific user context |
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| 11:47.33 | prashjai | when I try with root user, it works but not with other application user. |
| 11:47.54 | Crash | themill, ping |
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| 11:48.15 | linurandy | debian 9 with it kernel suppot nvidia geforce mx150 |
| 11:48.17 | linurandy | and SATA3 M.2 SSD of 128GB |
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| 12:01.39 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 12:01.42 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-trunk-686-pae (4.14-1~exp1); sid: 4.14.0-1-686-pae (4.14.2-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.13-1); stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686 (4.9.51-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 12:01.43 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
| 12:01.55 | jelly | ,kernels --arch amd64 |
| 12:01.57 | judd | (kernels [--release <squeeze>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 12:02.01 | jelly | oh right |
| 12:02.24 | jelly | hm, wasn't there a 4.9.65 release recently |
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| 12:21.39 | benlue | / Fail :D |
| 12:22.05 | matrix_architect | you are already in #debian |
| 12:22.09 | matrix_architect | surprise |
| 12:22.13 | benlue | :P |
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| 12:37.30 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 12:37.30 | dpkg | <Laney> alright lads. i set my root shell to /sbin/nolgin, but apparently that means i can't use "su -c" and sudo isn't installed. how can i change it back? :( |
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| 12:38.10 | darxmurf | ivan: about my file transfer, with tar over nc, I can reach ~400Mb/sec |
| 12:38.28 | jelly | is that 50MB/s or 400MB/s ? |
| 12:38.42 | darxmurf | 400 |
| 12:39.01 | gpunk | notice B b |
| 12:39.04 | jelly | (lower b bits. uppercase Bytes) |
| 12:39.34 | darxmurf | oops sorry |
| 12:39.36 | darxmurf | yep |
| 12:40.14 | darxmurf | it's anyway a bit better than rsync, I'm a bit surprised that rsync is struggling |
| 12:40.22 | JustASlacker | dpkg: su -s /bin/bash |
| 12:40.22 | dpkg | JustASlacker: bugger all, i dunno |
| 12:40.27 | JustASlacker | bah |
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| 12:45.25 | ivan | darxmurf: that's probably about as fast as it's going to go |
| 12:45.31 | ivan | rsync does a lot more stuff |
| 12:45.43 | ivan | darxmurf: if you have a lot of files you might try --inplace |
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| 12:47.06 | darxmurf | yep |
| 12:47.39 | darxmurf | but as rsync is using a CPU at 100%, I'm wondering if it would go faster using SMP |
| 12:48.56 | darxmurf | would it change to run the rsync FROM the new server to pull the files instead of to push from the old one ? |
| 12:49.05 | ivan | probably not |
| 12:50.13 | JustASlacker | did you do cat /dev/random | nc ? |
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| 12:50.55 | FinalX | JustASlacker: that would never go at 400mbit :) |
| 12:51.06 | petn-randall | darxmurf: rsync trades network bandwidth for CPU cycles. So if you have slow CPUs and fast network, it might be faster just to blindly copy files over. |
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| 12:51.13 | FinalX | try testing throughput with "iperf" |
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| 12:51.23 | JustASlacker | no? |
| 12:51.54 | FinalX | JustASlacker: no, /dev/random is absolute randomness without a false randomness generator (/dev/urandom has a pseudo-generator and is faster, but also rarely hits speeds like that) |
| 12:52.13 | JustASlacker | well, still should be faster than tar |
| 12:52.14 | FinalX | even with a true rng feeding /dev/random, it'll usually not go faster than a few KB/s |
| 12:52.20 | FinalX | no |
| 12:52.28 | FinalX | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.36 | JustASlacker | really? mabye I mean urandom then |
| 12:52.48 | JustASlacker | but iperf is better anyway |
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| 12:59.29 | konna44 | urandom isn't very fast either... at least for HDD overwriting when compared to /dev/zero. |
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| 13:00.07 | konna44 | someone created /dev/frandom but it's old and obsolete i think |
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| 13:00.39 | shtrb | dpkg how to remove not fully installed package ? |
| 13:00.40 | dpkg | shtrb: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 13:01.08 | darxmurf | petn-randall: I have a direct 10Gb link between the 2 machines, one is Xeon E5-2620 2.4GHz and the old is a E5-2609 v2 @ 2.50GHz |
| 13:01.28 | darxmurf | I copying using tar | nc |
| 13:01.41 | darxmurf | it's a bit faster |
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| 13:01.56 | shtrb | dpkg not fully installed package |
| 13:01.57 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, shtrb |
| 13:02.20 | shtrb | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.59 | zopieux | is there a recommended way of building and *packaging* patched kernel modules? as in, from the source of the current kernel, apply a patch, build the module, put the module in /lib/modules/.../updates/ |
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| 13:03.24 | shtrb | zopieux , make-kpkg ? |
| 13:03.35 | darxmurf | monitoring with nload, I have an average speed of 230MB/sec and max speed 599Mb/sec |
| 13:03.36 | shtrb | or dkms |
| 13:03.42 | zopieux | I originally thought DKMS was the way to go but it seems primarily for out-of-tree modules, not already existing modules |
| 13:03.51 | darxmurf | anyway, I let it run and wait :-) |
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| 13:04.00 | darxmurf | it's "only" 34Tb to copy |
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| 13:04.10 | zopieux | shtrb: didn't know about make-kpgk, will look into it thanks |
| 13:04.17 | shtrb | that's for a full kernel |
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| 13:04.27 | zopieux | huh |
| 13:04.34 | zopieux | is my feeling about dkms correct? |
| 13:04.51 | shtrb | but I gave up when trying to patch a module and just built a full kernel |
| 13:04.55 | zopieux | I mean, I would try to extract just the driver code I need from the source tarball but it feels wrong |
| 13:04.56 | shtrb | (less hassle) |
| 13:05.29 | zopieux | yeah that would work, more literature about it, but I can't do that in this specific environment |
| 13:06.24 | shtrb | If think a good way (doesn't leave you with missing externals let me know please :) ) |
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| 13:07.44 | zopieux | I could also publish binary packages :( |
| 13:07.49 | darxmurf | and I can run multiple tar|nc as it's not eating CPU, it's working pretty well |
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| 13:09.24 | soul-d | darxmurf, you could try with dd over netcat although i forgot hot to end the stream afther file complete but i get 120MB/S on 1gbit network |
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| 13:11.27 | darxmurf | well, on 1Gb link I can also reach the top speed without problem, then on 10Gb it's apparently not so simple :D |
| 13:11.51 | darxmurf | and in the end, the RAID6 on the new server has also it's max speed |
| 13:12.11 | soul-d | well dont have 10gbit yet but my hd is 2GBs |
| 13:12.14 | shtrb | darxmurf , it is all nice and fun untill you find that your disk is slower than your network |
| 13:12.42 | soul-d | target hd was a normal platter disk for me to |
| 13:12.55 | shtrb | envy darxmurf speeds right now (looking at his ~10 MB/s) |
| 13:13.11 | darxmurf | ^^ |
| 13:13.40 | darxmurf | shtrb: voilà :-) |
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| 13:38.17 | PCatinean | Hey guys, can anyone help me install wkthmltopdf 0.12.1 on debian? It works on ubuntu yet I have no luck with debian |
| 13:38.23 | PCatinean | saying the .deb files are not compatible |
| 13:38.27 | PCatinean | any suggestion? |
| 13:39.22 | shtrb | PCatienean did you get the package from a debian repository ? |
| 13:39.55 | IBM_ | compile ? |
| 13:40.22 | petn-randall | PCatinean: "apt install wkhtmltopdf" should be all you need, no need to manually install deb packages from random sources. |
| 13:40.24 | shtrb | you can also rebuild it (find the correct debian packages to load ) |
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| 13:42.28 | petn-randall | PCatinean: Also, why do you need 0.12.1? There are newer versions available. |
| 13:42.29 | petn-randall | !goal |
| 13:42.29 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 13:42.32 | petn-randall | PCatinean: ^^^ |
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| 14:54.41 | jomofcw | Hello ! |
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| 14:55.25 | jomofcw | I'm trying to apply this snippet to get an email every time some login with success in SSH : https://askubuntu.com/a/448602 |
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| 14:55.57 | jomofcw | I understand how it works and what it does, but I get a "/etc/ssh/login-notify.sh failed: exit code 2" and this, I don't understand why :/. |
| 14:56.07 | jomofcw | Can you help me with it, please ? |
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| 15:07.24 | Datenreisen | Hello, i have a little problem with my wlan. It shows all router but it don't connect to the router. I have try many things. Please look e |
| 15:07.32 | Datenreisen | at my Past. |
| 15:07.39 | Datenreisen | https://pastebin.com/hRMNF8Ak |
| 15:08.25 | jomofcw | I'm trying to apply this snippet to get an email every time some login with success in SSH : https://askubuntu.com/a/448602 , I understand how it works and what it does, but I get a "/etc/ssh/login-notify.sh failed: exit code 2" and this, I don't understand why :/. Can you help me with it, please ? |
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| 15:08.47 | JustASlacker | Datenreisen: ping 192.168.178.1 ? |
| 15:08.50 | jomofcw | Datenreisen hello. Sorry, can't help, I don't use WLAN :/. |
| 15:09.18 | petn-randall | Datenreisen: Have you tried installing firmware-ralink? |
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| 15:10.41 | Datenreisen | https://pastebin.com/Pxc4uRTC |
| 15:10.54 | Datenreisen | The Ping work's well. |
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| 15:12.43 | Datenreisen | petn-randall: Yes |
| 15:12.54 | petn-randall | pinging 192.168.178.1 is unfortunately irrelevant since that is the Ethernet connection. |
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| 15:13.22 | petn-randall | Datenreisen: What error do you get when you try to connect to the wifi AP? |
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| 15:14.09 | petn-randall | Datenreisen: /var/log/messages should contain the logs of nm. |
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| 15:19.32 | Datenreisen | Take a look: https://pastebin.com/fbzYnhCk |
| 15:21.25 | JustASlacker | oh right |
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| 15:25.45 | jomofcw | No idea about why my script exit with a code 2, please ? |
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| 15:28.11 | n4dir | jomofcw: check it with shellcheck.net |
| 15:28.31 | MobileRecon | Morning.. How do you force apt-get update to use ipv4 and not ipv6 in terminal |
| 15:28.36 | Datenreisen | I hab taken a picture: https://s2.postimg.org/os9htsjeh/Wlan.png |
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| 15:30.57 | JustASlacker | "my wlan is my castle" ^-^ |
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| 15:33.03 | RoyK | n4dir: not sure, unless you disable ipv6. why would you do this, btw? |
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| 15:33.53 | Datenreisen | It's my neighbor :-) |
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| 15:34.46 | jomofcw | n4cht hello ! Thanks for this. "shellcheck myscript : No issues detected!" |
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| 15:36.58 | n4dir | jomofcw: if you mean the snippet which starts with "change these two lines" and ends with echo "$message" | mail x ; |
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| 15:37.06 | MobileRecon | RoyK: it hangs on ipv6 for a period of time.. not sure why.. |
| 15:37.17 | MobileRecon | I know there is a command.. just can't remember it |
| 15:37.25 | MobileRecon | like force=ipv4 or something |
| 15:37.30 | n4dir | then i do get the warning bout using $(command) instead of ` command ` |
| 15:38.07 | n4dir | and i am never sure if the problem with != is a) it is a bashism or b) [ can't do it (perhaps it is valid, like said, i am not sure) |
| 15:38.24 | n4dir | i have hoped shellcheck would make it clear. damnit |
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| 15:38.53 | n4dir | you can add "set -x " at the top, perhaps that will make it clear |
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| 15:38.57 | MobileRecon | sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::ForceIPv4=true |
| 15:38.59 | MobileRecon | got it |
| 15:39.00 | MobileRecon | thanks |
| 15:40.10 | n4dir | anyway /bin/sh in debian is dash, and in that case, posix shell, case sure is preferred over [ stuff == other_stuff ] |
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| 15:40.39 | RoyK | MobileRecon: sounds like ipv6 simply doesn't work too well |
| 15:40.50 | Datenreisen | The modules are loadet. The module are (for my usb stick) rt73usb. |
| 15:41.01 | konna44 | if a server gets hacked, how likely would that result in a complete freeze or crash of the system? |
| 15:41.10 | RoyK | not likely |
| 15:41.34 | konna44 | i thought so too |
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| 15:41.43 | RoyK | konna44: most people would like to either destroy data or not leave a trace to keep access open |
| 15:42.05 | konna44 | so a complete system freeze/crash is not likely caused by a hacking attempt |
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| 15:44.04 | JustASlacker | hardware malfunction is more likely |
| 15:44.10 | JustASlacker | bad ram, power, tc |
| 15:44.58 | konna44 | yeah that's what i suspect too. I ran a bunch of diagnostics but didn't find anything special |
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| 15:49.29 | jomofcw | n4dir what "set x " is for, please ?N |
| 15:49.52 | abrotman | konna44: it's possible, yes .. If they replaced a core library. But just as likely that the hardware is faulty |
| 15:50.16 | jomofcw | n4dir and so you tell me that I should use "[ "$PAM_TYPE" !== "close_session" ]", right ? |
| 15:51.19 | n4dir | No, i said that it might make sense to use "case" instead of pattern matching via == or via !=, in case one uses a posix shell. |
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| 15:52.00 | n4dir | i am not that sure, jomofcw (set -x; will tell you exactly what gets done. I can't put it any better. The output will be more verbose) |
| 15:52.32 | n4dir | and if you *do* use bash, then use [[ instead of [ |
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| 15:54.12 | mspo | mm set -x |
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| 15:54.17 | mspo | best thing ever |
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| 15:56.36 | RoyK | mspo: what's set -x ? |
| 15:56.42 | RoyK | only uses set -o vi |
| 15:56.49 | n4dir | if everything fails, you could still ask in #bash. But i would make sure to remove all obvious problems before asking there. can be a rough ride over there :-) jomofcw (and good luck, i said all i know) |
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| 15:58.42 | GNU\colossus | RoyK, prints all commands executing to STDERR with PS4 (iirc) prefixed |
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| 15:59.53 | PCatinean | petn-randall, the 0.12.1 version is the only one officialy supported by my framework that I'm using |
| 16:00.02 | PCatinean | 0.12.4 has a few bugs here and there |
| 16:00.10 | mspo | RoyK: type it and find out |
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| 16:01.28 | PCatinean | Hey guys, can anyone help me install wkthmltopdf 0.12.1 on debian? It works on ubuntu yet I have no luck with debian |
| 16:01.31 | PCatinean | saying the .deb files are not compatible |
| 16:02.30 | petn-randall | PCatinean: Start with providing the actual error messages you get and the source of your .deb. â https://paste.debian.net |
| 16:02.42 | PCatinean | ah wait I just saw this |
| 16:03.03 | PCatinean | to print PDF reports, you must install wkhtmltopdf yourself: the version of wkhtmltopdf available in debian repositories does not support headers and footers so it can not be installed automatically. The recommended version is 0.12.1 and is available on the wkhtmltopdf download page, in the archive section. As there is no official release for Debian Jessie, you can find ours on the extra section of our nightly server. |
| 16:03.10 | PCatinean | So I assume that's the problem there |
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| 16:05.33 | jhutchins_wk | when a "service foo restart" redirects to a systemd command, I don't seem to get any output. |
| 16:06.30 | jhutchins_wk | Yeah, no feedback on ntpd restart through systemctl. |
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| 16:08.40 | jhutchins_wk | ,v wkhtmltopdf |
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| 16:08.41 | judd | Package: wkhtmltopdf on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.9.9-4; wheezy-backports: 0.12.0-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.12.1-2; buster: 0.12.3.2-3; sid: 0.12.3.2-3; stretch: 0.12.3.2-3 |
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| 16:09.36 | petn-randall | PCatinean: Let us know when you want to provide any error messages, we'll help you then. |
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| 16:14.31 | PCatinean | petn-randall, https://paste.debian.net/999286/ |
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| 16:15.15 | PCatinean | Before I was using the wkthmltox.deb files from the official project but they apparently do not support debian, so the framework I work on provided one, it's just a matter of installing it after another one is already installed since this is a docker image |
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| 16:16.12 | jomofcw | n4dir : "set x" doesn't change anything in the error displayed :s... |
| 16:16.21 | jomofcw | Perhaps I missunderstood the use... |
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| 16:18.00 | n4dir | set -x |
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| 16:18.38 | petn-randall | PCatinean: xfonts-base and xfonts-75dpi exist in Debian, so you might have luck installing those before installing the .deb. |
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| 16:19.16 | PCatinean | petn-randall, so you suggest installing those instead of doing the dpkg -i and apt install -f ? |
| 16:19.50 | PCatinean | is there any difference between the two methods? |
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| 16:23.03 | jomofcw | n4dir yup "set -x" sorry, typo in chat only. |
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| 16:25.43 | petn-randall | PCatinean: Yes, I'd try that, since your apt install -f just tries to remove it again. |
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| 16:39.53 | PCatinean | petn-randall, it seems to work thanks |
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| 16:46.31 | PCatinean | petn-randall, plan b, this version does not seem to work, can I install this one on debian? https://github.com/wkhtmltopdf/wkhtmltopdf/releases/0.12.1/ |
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| 16:47.29 | greycat | You can install anything you want in /opt or /usr/local or /home |
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| 16:47.42 | greycat | It becomes your responsibility. |
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| 16:51.47 | PCatinean | greycat, but all deb files there when doing dpkg -i say they are not compatible with debian |
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| 16:52.37 | greycat | Don't use .deb files. Install it however you would install on AIX or HP-UX or Solaris or FreeBSD or any other system that does not have a package manager. |
| 16:52.44 | petn-randall | PCatinean: I'm pretty sure dpkg didn't say that. |
| 16:52.56 | greycat | (or whose package manager is not supported by this project) |
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| 16:53.16 | PCatinean | greycat, and that would be? XD |
| 16:53.22 | petn-randall | PCatinean: Ask the mtainainer of that github repo to provide files for Debian. Or switch to their supported systems. |
| 16:53.23 | jhutchins_wk | Is there a way to send Ctrl-C in xfce-terminal? |
| 16:53.40 | PCatinean | petn-randall, oh so that's the only way |
| 16:53.43 | petn-randall | jhutchins_wk: You mean, like pressing it literally? |
| 16:53.51 | petn-randall | *maintainer |
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| 16:54.30 | jhutchins_wk | Oh, it's in a VM, I should check the VM Menu. That's what's intercepting it. |
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| 16:55.13 | jhutchins_wk | Just use the other Ctrl key. |
| 16:55.19 | petn-randall | heh :) |
| 16:55.23 | PCatinean | https://paste.debian.net/999297/ |
| 16:55.44 | greycat | Shouldn't a *github repo* have *source files* that you can build?! |
| 16:55.52 | greycat | isn't that, like, the entire schtick? |
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| 16:59.46 | petn-randall | PCatinean: Run 'file <path/to/deb>' on it, you probably downloaded something entirely different. |
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| 17:02.09 | PCatinean | hmmm |
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| 17:03.48 | PCatinean | You could very well be right... |
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| 17:05.55 | petn-randall | And that's also the reason why we don't accept "interpreted" error messages here, just the literal pastes. :) |
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| 17:08.27 | PCatinean | I guess that does make a whole lot of sense |
| 17:08.30 | PCatinean | pretty obvious now XD |
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| 17:09.00 | PCatinean | alright, it seems that I've been downloading wrong all along as you just said, and there's a dependency towards libjpeg8 which does not seem to be available in standard debian repos |
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| 17:09.18 | greycat | Ugh, third party binaries. :( |
| 17:09.22 | petn-randall | ,v libjpeg8 |
| 17:09.23 | judd | Package: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1 |
| 17:10.05 | petn-randall | PCatinean: As I said, if you really can't use the wkhtmltopdf provided by Debian, you'll need to ask that 3rd party to provide Debian packages for stretch, or compile it yourself. |
| 17:10.10 | greycat | another reason why building from source is *better* than trying to make third party binaries run |
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| 17:10.36 | PCatinean | greycat, can you advise on how to do that? |
| 17:11.03 | greycat | If the project is not total crap, there should be a file named INSTALL or README in the top level of the source directory that tells you how to proceed. |
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| 17:13.44 | PCatinean | fair enough |
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| 17:15.07 | PCatinean | apparently not as easy inside a docker container |
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| 17:17.08 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
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| 17:17.31 | petn-randall | PCatinean: There's nothing we can do about 3rd party binaries that don't work with Debian. |
| 17:17.39 | PCatinean | petn-randall, understood |
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| 17:27.18 | fasdfd | why is there no nextcloud package in the repos? |
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| 17:29.34 | petn-randall | fasdfd: Lack of long-term support by upstream, and lack of quality in some places. |
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| 17:40.33 | pandy2 | Greetings |
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| 17:52.52 | pandy2 | question: during boot i get message:Radeon kernel modesetting for r600 or later requires firmware-amd-graphics, what is the correct way to install drivers for it ? |
| 17:53.13 | greycat | add contrib and non-free to your sources, apt-get update, then install the package |
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| 17:53.14 | pandy2 | i'm debian stretch |
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| 17:53.40 | pandy2 | greycat, thanks |
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| 17:54.48 | pandy2 | do i add contrib non-free to each line ? |
| 17:55.24 | greycat | !non-free sources |
| 17:55.25 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 17:55.25 | petn-randall | !non-free |
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| 18:01.11 | pandy2 | do i add to this:deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main |
| 18:01.12 | pandy2 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main |
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| 18:01.45 | greycat | !stretch sources.list |
| 18:01.45 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 18:09.22 | jhutchins_wk | pandy2: If you're using contrib & non-free, it's usually best to add it to all of your repos. Watch for errors during update, you'll see any that lack those categories. |
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| 18:11.08 | pandy2 | jhutchins_wk>, thanks ,done that |
| 18:11.21 | pandy2 | going for reboot now |
| 18:11.37 | TacticReplicatio | hi all |
| 18:11.47 | TacticReplicatio | I'm trying to execute the Rasplex installer |
| 18:11.53 | TacticReplicatio | ./GetRasplex-debian64.1.0.1.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:12.30 | TacticReplicatio | according to a stackoverflow topic, I had to install some libssl, but still, doesn't work |
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| 18:12.39 | TacticReplicatio | I'm on Stretch |
| 18:12.48 | greycat | .file libssl.so.1.0.0 |
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| 18:12.52 | greycat | gah |
| 18:12.54 | greycat | ,file libssl.so.1.0.0 |
| 18:13.01 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 18:13.35 | greycat | judd, why...? |
| 18:13.44 | greycat | wooledg:~$ dpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 |
| 18:13.44 | greycat | libssl1.0.0:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 |
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| 18:13.49 | keith4 | you can almost certainly just symlink libssl.so.1.0.2 to libssl.so.1.0.0 and fake it, for that binary |
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| 18:14.37 | greycat | you shouldn't have to. it's directly in the package list. |
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| 18:15.56 | andrzej | nick pandy2 |
| 18:16.08 | andrzej | back after reboot |
| 18:16.10 | keith4 | greycat: not in Stretch, it's not |
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| 18:16.30 | keith4 | your choices are libssl1.0.2 or libssl1.1 |
| 18:16.35 | greycat | is my package leftover from jessie or something? |
| 18:16.45 | greycat | ,v libssl.so.1.0.0 |
| 18:16.47 | judd | No package named 'libssl.so.1.0.0' was found in amd64. |
| 18:17.03 | andrzej | amd graphics are not better, rendering colors not different |
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| 18:17.43 | TacticReplicatio | (actually, I misunderstood what rasplex was, so I don't need it. by extension, I don't need libssl lol. but thank you a lot, sorry ^^') |
| 18:18.15 | greycat | ,v libssl1.0.0 |
| 18:18.17 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u3; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1 |
| 18:18.23 | greycat | is what I meant to type :-/ |
| 18:18.31 | greycat | guess it's left over from jessie. |
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| 18:28.58 | pandy2 | question: can hexchat store my identity ?, thank you |
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| 18:35.11 | mtn | pandy2: yes. look at the settings and the help, that is builtin |
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| 18:41.19 | shtrb | Anyone have Ideapad 320 with stable and can say if his touchpad and WiFi works for him ? (checking before getting that model) |
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| 18:49.19 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: https://www.linux.com/news/my-hardware-linux-compatible-find-out-here |
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| 18:50.01 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn |
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| 18:50.11 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2975800/operating-systems/how-to-find-out-if-your-pc-is-compatible-with-linux.html |
| 18:50.43 | greycat | 1) plug live USB thingy into computer, 2) power on, 3) wait |
| 18:50.50 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: Chances are there is no report for your exact model. The lists mostly rely on users to report success or failure, and users rarely bother to report success. |
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| 18:51.00 | shtrb | There was an active bug , with some workarounds I wished to ask actuall users if there are any |
| 18:51.27 | shtrb | greycat, It's a wharehouse |
| 18:51.47 | shtrb | *any more issue and if that actaully works |
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| 18:51.56 | greycat | I was responding to jhutchins_wk's URL |
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| 19:01.58 | pandy2 | hi |
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| 19:02.54 | shtrb | greycat, sorry |
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| 19:05.45 | tdn | I accidentially ran "chmod 0775 -Rc ." in the wrong folder. How do I reverse this? Fortuneately, I had the -c switch on, so I have output of any changes, like: "mode of '.' changed from 0700 (rwx------) to 0775 (rwxrwxr-x)" Is there an easy way of using this output (which I saved) and convert it into shellscript that runs reverse "chmod" command on each file/folder? |
| 19:05.54 | greycat | restore from backup |
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| 19:06.33 | tdn | greycat, yeah, I can do that but I will lose data from the last ~36 hours. |
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| 19:09.03 | tw | maybe something like sed -e "s@.*'(.*)'.*from ([0-7]*) .*@chmod \2 \1@" |
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| 19:09.09 | tw | but ymmv. |
| 19:09.18 | tw | no way to prove that will work right without tuning. |
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| 19:09.30 | tdn | tw, thats a good starting point. Thanks |
| 19:10.04 | greycat | I'm pretty sure you need a bunch of changes to that. |
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| 19:10.19 | tw | at least one for \"\" around \1 |
| 19:10.48 | greycat | from the obvious ones like \( \) to the more subtle ones like whitespace/quotes/@signs in the filenames breaking everything beyond hope or redemption |
| 19:11.38 | greycat | and you can't even *get* that far if there are newlines in the filenames because the lines you're parsing won't be intact |
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| 19:15.04 | tw | I think it will be okay with @signs in filenames, but whitespace management is going to be an issue. Same is probably true with non-latin or unicode characters in filenames. |
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| 19:18.52 | GNU\colossus | tdn, I wrote something that's kinda close to the problem you're looking to solve, for a friend, a while ago - maybe it serves as a useful template for what you need: http://coloss.us.to/permclone |
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| 19:31.01 | zokum | I am having problems with a large amount of bad checksums on one of my nics on my gateway. Any ideas about what I can do to fix it. I am unable to turn off hardware checksumming. cksum 0x84be (incorrect -> 0xe537) |
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| 19:34.30 | brw | zokum: Assuming you have checked cabling and hardware in general, yes? |
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| 19:35.38 | zokum | yeah, should be fine, i think |
| 19:35.58 | zokum | it looks like a software problem due to the checksums being more or less always the same |
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| 19:37.12 | zokum | 0x848e 0x84ce 0x84be 0x84be 0x843e were the five last checksums tcpdump complained about |
| 19:38.47 | zokum | if i do: ethtool --offload enp5s9 rx off tx off I get "Could not change any device features" |
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| 19:40.22 | zokum | i guess it could be a fairly fatal hardware flaw on the nic itself, i could try another one I guess |
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| 19:42.12 | brw | hrm... |
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| 19:42.44 | brw | Most of what I'm running is virtualized now, so I'm not sure how to troubleshoot on the software side |
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| 19:55.07 | jhutchins_wk | zokum: Try a different switch port. Couldn't hurt. Definitely check physical cabling carefully. |
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| 19:55.26 | jhutchins_wk | zokum: Make sure the cable's not wrapped around somebodys's electric fan or anything. |
| 19:55.43 | teraflops | always check cable first |
| 19:56.05 | RoyK | any idea where I can find bluetooth-agent for stretch? |
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| 19:57.14 | RoyK | hm - bt-agent, perhaps |
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| 20:00.04 | teraflops | ,v bluez-tools |
| 20:00.05 | judd | Package: bluez-tools on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.1.38+git662e-3; jessie: 0.2.0~20140808-3; buster: 0.2.0~20140808-5+b2; sid: 0.2.0~20140808-5+b2; stretch: 0.2.0~20140808-5+b2 |
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| 20:01.53 | RoyK | teraflops: yeah - found it - but it doesn't seem to support audio |
| 20:02.18 | teraflops | what do you mean? |
| 20:02.26 | teraflops | default agent is ok |
| 20:03.25 | teraflops | RoyK: want pairing with a bt audio thingy |
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| 20:05.07 | RoyK | teraflops: no, I want my pi to be the one to be pairing with |
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| 20:06.10 | zokum | jhutchins: only one switch port, that one goes to the bridge to a diber optic connection |
| 20:06.40 | zokum | hmm, maybe not, i will have to look a bit closer at this tbh |
| 20:07.38 | zokum | seems the problem was on my broadcom, not my 3com |
| 20:08.53 | teraflops | RoyK: I still dont get what you want |
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| 20:09.39 | teraflops | RoyK: hmm, but you want it not being interactive? |
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| 20:11.47 | RoyK | teraflops: I'm trying to setup a 'handsfree' like thing for cellphones, so that they can connect to the pi on bluetooth and have the pi handle audio and control |
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| 20:12.16 | teraflops | I see |
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| 20:23.46 | RoyK | seems bt-agent is interactive only - hm |
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| 20:31.04 | RoyK | hm - seems bluetoothctl can open up for pairing, but I can't find a single option for setting a pin |
| 20:31.33 | vizzy_zzz | kde on deb8: i try to download themes etc to "get new hot stuff", but its initializing for 5 minutes now, internetconnection is fine. |
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| 20:33.47 | pandy2 | hello ! |
| 20:35.21 | pandy2 | after using Apper, each time i close it i get message: KDEInit could not launch /usr/bin/apper, is this a bug ? |
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| 20:39.05 | mum0l_ | Hi guys! I've a fresh debian 9 OS, and my ssh connection hangs very often for couple of seconds... any idea what can be the reason? I'm connecting from MAC, and I use hundreds of ssh connections to diffrent hosts, and never face this kind of issues so I suspect that is a debian9 issue.. or maybe ssh configuration.. this is sshd_config: https://pastebin.com/raw/VtEecN9m |
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| 20:42.31 | tdn | GNU\colossus, thanks |
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| 20:45.00 | pandy2 | how do i add myself to sudoers file ? thank you |
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| 20:45.46 | awal1 | Why chromium doesn't remember screen position? |
| 20:45.51 | jhutchins_wk | pandy2: As root, either edit it, preferably with visudo, or add yourself to the sudo group if that's already enabled. |
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| 20:46.04 | jhutchins_wk | pandy2: visudo uses your default text editor. |
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| 20:46.11 | awal1 | only fvwm wm force it to do |
| 20:46.21 | jhutchins_wk | awal1: Not chromium's job. |
| 20:46.23 | greycat | Debian's default configuration has the sudo group enabled for full access, so just add yourself to that group. |
| 20:46.50 | jhutchins_wk | awal1: That is something the window manager does. |
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| 20:48.13 | GNU\colossus | tdn, could you rescue your system? :) |
| 20:48.42 | awal1 | jhutchins_wk, well, I have set my openbox to center new windows if center is empty, all applications obey except chromium. fvwm yes force it. It is a know issue |
| 20:48.57 | awal1 | https://askubuntu.com/questions/253451/lubuntu-window-geometry-force-window-to-always-open-in-the-same-location |
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| 20:49.14 | pandy2 | <greycat>, how do change that configuration, please explain what to do, thanks |
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| 20:49.29 | awal1 | I have same "issue" no matters which DE/WM |
| 20:50.19 | awal1 | is there any utility for achieve what the wm can't? |
| 20:50.45 | awal1 | position placement of app windows in screen I meant |
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| 20:52.37 | tdn | GNU\colossus, still working on it. |
| 20:52.51 | tdn | GNU\colossus, I think som vim/sed foo will actually solve it. |
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| 21:03.39 | jhutchins_wk | awal1: Different applictaions follow different standards for what the WM/DE can do with them. |
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| 21:04.03 | jhutchins_wk | awal1: Where your complaint really needs to go is in the feedback/support for chromium. |
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| 21:04.41 | tdn | GNU\colossus, fixed it completely! :D |
| 21:04.43 | jhutchins_wk | awal1: There is a utility for that, it's the window manager, and chromium apparently isn't playing by it's rules. |
| 21:05.00 | GNU\colossus | tdn, congrats :) and: lucky you! |
| 21:05.06 | tdn | GNU\colossus, thanks |
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| 21:05.53 | tdn | GNU\colossus, noticed that the output contained filename + the original numeric permissions. Then I fixed it with some sed foo. |
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| 21:08.26 | awal1 | jhutchins_wk, chromium is always an exception, even for theming :) I'll search a bit more |
| 21:08.44 | awal1 | for sure there is a solution. |
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| 21:21.57 | somiaj | awal1: chromium has a setting which you can configure it use its own decor or use the decor of the wm |
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| 21:25.37 | Sandlersandler | Installing only openbox & lightdm on a debian minimal install. Do I need to install anything like xorg or xorg-server ?? |
| 21:26.07 | well_laid_lawn | they should be dependancies |
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| 21:26.44 | Sandlersandler | Thanks for the heads up :-) |
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| 21:32.19 | annadane | right; they'll get auto installed if you apt install openbox |
| 21:32.32 | annadane | or lightdm, probably lightdm actually |
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| 21:33.41 | awal1 | somiaj, not decor concern, it was about chromium position placement not foolowing wm rules (except fvwm) |
| 21:34.25 | awal1 | it doesn't remember last placement almost and doesn't follow window managers rules |
| 21:34.26 | somiaj | web browers are very bad at following the rules and many don't support standard conventions. |
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| 21:38.03 | awal1 | firefox is fine regarding that |
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| 22:03.25 | kion | i Have su access and somehow lost my password to unlock my login keyring, how can I fix this, it says it is no longer my login password! |
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| 22:05.56 | kion | i Have su access and somehow lost my password to unlock my login keyring, how can I fix this, it says it is no longer my login password! |
| 22:06.27 | annadane | kion, please don't repeatedly post messages, someone will answer it |
| 22:07.12 | kion | annadane, I am sorry I thought my connection had a problem and didn't get sent the first time!! I didn't mean to make inapropiate use of the chatroom |
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| 22:41.05 | donofrio | how do I find a repo that host powerpc32/powerpc64 besty |
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| 23:02.49 | serende | hi, I've installed debian stable about a month ago, more or less. I'm thinking about mitigating to testing and I'm wondering whether this step generally creates issues or fairly safe |
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| 23:04.50 | serende | if it's not unsafe, how can I switch to testing? |
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| 23:07.20 | burek | i just installed testing |
| 23:07.23 | burek | seems fine for now |
| 23:08.40 | serende | nice burek :) |
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| 23:09.08 | burek | testing is like rolling release |
| 23:09.16 | burek | it still gets security updates, afaik |
| 23:09.20 | burek | and everything else |
| 23:09.28 | burek | its just latest version of software |
| 23:09.56 | bazhang | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net |
| 23:10.21 | bazhang | burek, ^ |
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| 23:11.17 | burek | ktnx bro |
| 23:11.30 | bazhang | npx |
| 23:13.10 | serende | http://paste.debian.net/999357/ these are my repos currently, how can I update them to testing? |
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| 23:14.46 | burek | maybe through /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:14.48 | burek | ? |
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| 23:15.41 | serende | yeah |
| 23:15.46 | serende | reading about it now |
| 23:16.19 | burek | or, maybe not the best way, but through synaptic? |
| 23:16.32 | burek | might be even easier |
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| 23:18.01 | PYE-mx295 | hello |
| 23:18.19 | PYE-mx295 | does debian have a version that tracks RHEL? |
| 23:18.32 | bazhang | PYE-mx295, why would it |
| 23:18.44 | PYE-mx295 | ie do they release a version with same version of software as an equiv RHEL |
| 23:18.55 | PYE-mx295 | bazhang, for enterprise level compatability? |
| 23:20.22 | annadane | debian's packages are pretty much upstream packages a lot of the time which centos/rhel probably borrow from as well |
| 23:20.36 | annadane | with maybe minor differences across distributions |
| 23:22.40 | PYE-mx295 | so it does not have a version that tracks a mainstream enterprise linux? |
| 23:22.50 | annadane | though "enterprise" is a tricky word depending on what you mean because debian stable only updates their packages every stable release, aka about every 2 years |
| 23:24.22 | PYE-mx295 | so i should just stick with Oracle Linux or CentOS? |
| 23:24.48 | annadane | *shrug* never used them and don't know what your use case is |
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| 23:26.15 | PYE-mx295 | i though everyone used RHEL at somepoint |
| 23:26.22 | PYE-mx295 | whether they liked or not |
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| 23:31.25 | annadane | i guess probably fedora is the "enterprise distro" |
| 23:31.34 | annadane | for up to date software |
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| 23:31.46 | annadane | there's also arch, or debian unstable (which is not a rolling distro as such) |
| 23:32.10 | PYE-mx295 | thats hardly enterpirse grade solution |
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| 23:32.15 | PYE-mx295 | arch lol |
| 23:32.23 | PYE-mx295 | its a toy distro |
| 23:32.36 | annadane | well, fine. just giving you options, i don't know what you're looking for |
| 23:32.58 | PYE-mx295 | im looking for a debian version that tracks a RHEL release |
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| 23:33.14 | PYE-mx295 | ie provides same version of sw as RHEL |
| 23:33.42 | bazhang | PYE-mx295, the exact same? |
| 23:33.52 | PYE-mx295 | ye |
| 23:34.10 | bazhang | PYE-mx295, why not ask in a fedora or centos channel for that |
| 23:34.23 | PYE-mx295 | bazhang, for a version of debian? |
| 23:34.31 | PYE-mx295 | theyd tell me to ask here |
| 23:34.37 | PYE-mx295 | its a debian question |
| 23:34.48 | bazhang | PYE-mx295, for something that exactly tracks rhel |
| 23:35.05 | PYE-mx295 | for a version of debian that tracks RHEL |
| 23:35.07 | PYE-mx295 | ye |
| 23:35.09 | PYE-mx295 | dur |
| 23:35.11 | bazhang | no |
| 23:35.19 | bazhang | thats not going to happen |
| 23:35.29 | PYE-mx295 | why not? |
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| 23:42.01 | annadane | it's as i was saying, it depends on how distros handle upstream |
| 23:42.20 | annadane | debian stable will not ever track current red hat packages because they're only updated every 2 years in debian stable |
| 23:42.26 | donofrio | how do I find a repo that host powerpc32/powerpc64 besty |
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| 23:43.16 | annadane | something like slackware or something more up to date or debian unstable (especially slackware as it's source based) will be more likely to match up with current versions |
| 23:43.28 | annadane | and even then, centos/red hat may modify those packages slightly from upstream |
| 23:45.33 | annadane | arch, "toy distro" though it may be, does have up to date packages |
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| 23:45.59 | annadane | so, whatever, this is basically the framework of discussion |
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