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| 00:17.01 | zro | update from jessie -> stretch messed my offlineimap and --migrate-fmd5-using-nametrans doesnt seem to be helping it not wanna ul/dl a bunch of old mail, and #offlineimap is silent. any ideas? |
| 00:17.25 | RockRudy | Anybody here that could help me with debian issue, please? |
| 00:17.53 | zro | RockRudy: prolly just ask the question., dont ask to ask to ask. |
| 00:18.51 | RockRudy | zro: Well. It's more complicated. First time here. Trying to install openhab2. After running it as a service through systemctl, it fails to run. But I don't have skills to troubleshoot it why. I am sure there are error logs to chase etc.. etc.. |
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| 01:14.53 | zokum | ok, i still got bad crc on tcp packets on one of my nics. tried changing cable and switch port, same result. more errors on gigabit than 100 and none on 10mbit |
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| 01:43.56 | simpledat | Failed to start Set console font and keymap. What is this? |
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| 01:47.04 | PYE-mx295 | simpledat, just ignore that |
| 01:47.46 | simpledat | Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the system crashed before the ppp link was shut down. |
| 01:47.49 | simpledat | What about this? |
| 01:48.42 | RoyK | or just add 'nameservers 8.8.8.8' to the file |
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| 01:49.49 | simpledat | firmware failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw |
| 01:50.11 | simpledat | "Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the system crashed before the ppp link was shut down." and "firmware failed to load rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw" |
| 01:50.15 | simpledat | Something to worry about? |
| 01:50.35 | simpledat | RoyK: I already have some nameservers in there I use |
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| 01:51.37 | simpledat | Do I need the firmware? |
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| 01:53.34 | OUTs1der | stretch, firmware-bnx2 installed, correct fw file present in /lib/firmware/bnx2/, dmesg still shows not loaded because it's not found |
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| 01:54.08 | OUTs1der | same for radeon 100 firmware |
| 01:54.40 | simpledat | OUTs1der: Do I need the firmware? |
| 01:54.53 | OUTs1der | you mean, do I need it, yes |
| 01:55.06 | simpledat | Can you please tell me why? |
| 01:55.18 | OUTs1der | it's a broadcom netextreme 2 |
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| 01:55.48 | simpledat | What does it do? |
| 01:56.02 | OUTs1der | it's the ethernet adapter |
| 01:56.07 | simpledat | Is there any security issue by not running it? |
| 01:56.12 | OUTs1der | so yes, I need it for networking |
| 01:56.59 | OUTs1der | well, lets put it this way, dmesg sees the adapter, but can't get it up |
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| 01:57.31 | OUTs1der | so the security issue here is, the box is now very secure as there is no network attached to it |
| 01:57.46 | OUTs1der | except for localhost |
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| 01:59.22 | OUTs1der | my question to start with in this case it, why does it claim the file not to be present when it is ? |
| 02:02.45 | OUTs1der | and then it went silent |
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| 02:05.30 | OUTsider | lemme pull the dmesg and put output on an usb in order to upload to pastebin |
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| 02:14.28 | OUTsider | well, it can't be the firmware, as I actually didn't need it in the previous version (wheezy) |
| 02:14.50 | OUTsider | still a nuisance, but eth0 is detected, but it won't fire up |
| 02:15.06 | OUTsider | damn, this is going to be a long night :( |
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| 02:21.51 | PYE-mx295 | i installed debian tonight |
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| 02:22.02 | PYE-mx295 | first time in like 15 years |
| 02:22.07 | PYE-mx295 | god its wank |
| 02:22.27 | PYE-mx295 | what the fuck happened? |
| 02:22.59 | RoyK | !ask |
| 02:22.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:23.40 | ivan | is wank good or bad |
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| 02:24.12 | dvs | bad |
| 02:24.24 | ivan | I installed debian potato in a VM recently and I can assure you today's debian is better |
| 02:25.25 | rpifan | hey i cant seem to get rfkill to unblock my wlan |
| 02:25.26 | rpifan | 0: phy0: Wireless LAN |
| 02:25.30 | rpifan | Soft blocked: no |
| 02:25.32 | rpifan | Hard blocked: yes |
| 02:25.34 | rpifan | the button is pressed and it should work |
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| 02:26.00 | ivan | thanks debhelper I was about to reply to that |
| 02:26.17 | ivan | now I can just do something else |
| 02:26.19 | PYE-mx295 | hmm seems like it was better back in the day |
| 02:26.27 | PYE-mx295 | now its just wank |
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| 02:26.41 | ivan | you might want to offer some more details |
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| 02:28.47 | OUTsider | anyone else able to tell me why the Broadcom NetXtreme II Gigabit Ethernet no longer works in stretch like it did on wheezy ? |
| 02:29.46 | OUTsider | ifup -a shows it tries to load and fail on the firmware (RTNETLINK: no such file), on second attempt it says RTNETLINK: file exists, but won't come up |
| 02:30.20 | ivan | check the journal |
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| 02:31.13 | ivan | maybe you need another nonfree firmware package? |
| 02:31.26 | ivan | there are many |
| 02:31.28 | OUTsider | ivan, the correct fw file is in the package |
| 02:31.31 | ivan | ah |
| 02:31.52 | OUTsider | and the fw wasn't needed in wheezy |
| 02:31.59 | OUTsider | but stretch somehow now does |
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| 02:32.39 | OUTsider | the device is recognized: [ 15.224821] bnx2 0000:02:00.0: eth0: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-SX (B2) PCI-X 64-bit 133MHz found at mem f8000000, IRQ 16, node addr 00:15:c5:fe:5c:90 |
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| 02:34.14 | ivan | you have firmware-bnx2 installed? |
| 02:34.27 | OUTsider | as I said already, yes :P |
| 02:34.28 | ivan | note not firmware-bnx2x |
| 02:34.34 | ivan | ok |
| 02:34.44 | PYE-mx295 | OUTsider, maybe recomple the kernel with support for the card |
| 02:34.51 | PYE-mx295 | recompile |
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| 02:35.05 | ivan | uh-huh |
| 02:35.11 | OUTsider | PYE-mx295, it recognizes it ! |
| 02:35.44 | OUTsider | means the support for it is already in the kernel |
| 02:35.47 | ivan | OUTsider: did systemd rename your network interface? grep for eth0 |
| 02:36.03 | ivan | it might be ens3N or something now |
| 02:36.09 | PYE-mx295 | systemd what a cunt of a thing |
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| 02:36.34 | OUTsider | ivan: see my paste about being recognized, clearly states eth0 |
| 02:36.42 | ivan | OUTsider: that's nice, but it can be renamed later |
| 02:37.20 | OUTsider | wouldn't dmesg then state it did ? |
| 02:37.24 | ivan | yes |
| 02:37.38 | OUTsider | well, I have the entire dmesg output in front of me, and it did not |
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| 02:38.00 | OUTsider | also, as I stated, when I ifup -a, it attempt to load the firmware again |
| 02:38.26 | OUTsider | on a second attempt, it states RTNETLIN: File exists |
| 02:38.44 | ivan | I'm out of ideas, hopefully someone knows a thing |
| 02:38.46 | OUTsider | and I can repeat that using ip addr flush dev eth0 |
| 02:39.06 | OUTsider | so yes, basic google foo performed in order to find an answer |
| 02:39.43 | OUTsider | and since the upgrade to stretch also removed the previous kernels, I can't go back to an older kernel where it DID work |
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| 02:41.32 | OUTsider | can I somehow attempt to perform a manual firmware load specifying the file ? |
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| 02:42.20 | OUTsider | coz as I said, it exists, but the fw loader claims it doesn't |
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| 02:43.52 | OUTsider | using debian for 18 years and never had such issues.... |
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| 02:46.35 | aindilis | anyone interested in AI and Debian? |
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| 02:48.16 | OUTsider | not at the moment |
| 02:49.31 | tensorpudding | Do you need to modify your partitions, like resizing them and such, or manually adding an EFI partition, in order to convert the partitioning scheme on a Debian install on an MBR hard drive to a GPT+UEFI one? |
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| 02:50.48 | tensorpudding | I want to be able to easily dual-boot my legacy MBR Debian install with a new UEFI+GPT Windows 10 install on a separate hard drive. |
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| 02:52.17 | somiaj | tensorpudding: can the firmware just support botting both? In this case you could just let the firmware choose between which drive to boot and if you want to boot uefi or legacy |
| 02:52.41 | somiaj | but if your old debian install is using MBR partitions, you cannot convert this to UEFI |
| 02:52.48 | somiaj | (without changing the partition table to GTP) |
| 02:53.20 | tensorpudding | The firmware can choose, but I want to have a nice menu option instead of having to machine-gun F11 during boot. |
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| 02:53.46 | tensorpudding | I honestly don't understand this UEFI stuff and I am interested in not having to at the moment. |
| 02:54.14 | somiaj | UEFI is nice, but you have to have a new drive, with a new partition format, then copy the old data to the new drive. |
| 02:54.58 | somiaj | tensorpudding: actually you have a second drive with a GTP partition table and an EFI partition on it already? |
| 02:55.07 | tensorpudding | I had looked at it and it *seems* gdisk can convert MBR to GPT, but based on what I know about GPT, it requires more space in the front and rear of the disk. |
| 02:55.55 | tensorpudding | somiaj: There is an old SSD with an MBR that has Debian installed that I installed in 2014, and a brand-new SSD that I just installed Windows 10 on, and it defaulted to UEFI and GPT given my motherboard supports it. |
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| 02:56.21 | tensorpudding | When I installed Debian jessie it did not make it straightforward to install with GPT and I did not bother at the time. |
| 02:56.30 | somiaj | you might be able to use grub-efi and install it on the efi partition of the windows drive, and then have it use the old MBR partition as root. Since you have two drives and one already has an efi partition, you maybe able to just install grub to that efi partition, then use an old mbr partition as / |
| 02:56.47 | somiaj | yea, with debian it depends on how you boot the installer if legacy or efi is used. |
| 02:57.48 | somiaj | but you might (I haven't done this), boot up with some live/recovery system in uefi mode. set up your old debian isntall in a chroot, chroot into it and install grub-efi and point it at the same efi partition windows is using. In this case you may not have to convert the MBR partition to GTP in order to get grub booting in efi mode for both windows and debian. |
| 02:57.53 | tensorpudding | Does installing grub-efi on the EFI partition on the Windows drive affect Windows at all? |
| 02:58.13 | somiaj | It shouldn't. That is supose to be one of the advantages of an EFI partition, easier to dual boot |
| 02:58.33 | somiaj | the efi partition just needs to be big enough to store both grub and the windows boot info. |
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| 02:59.34 | tensorpudding | I know my needs vis-a-vis kernels on my current /boot partition are < 100 MB, but I have no idea how much space Windows is using on the EFI partition. |
| 02:59.43 | tensorpudding | Well, no trouble to check. |
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| 03:00.47 | tensorpudding | Do you need to keep your kernels in the EFI partition? |
| 03:01.54 | tensorpudding | I have to go though, I'll research this later. Thank you for your help somiaj |
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| 03:07.02 | happygilmoregent | what is the synaptic pkg mgr? |
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| 03:09.59 | happygilmoregent | does anyone know a good freebsd channel? |
| 03:11.35 | nkuttler | happygilmoregent: /msg alis help list |
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| 03:14.50 | Canucktux | hello, I have some questions about making systemd and messing with init |
| 03:14.54 | zu22 | which packge has xmkmf? i couldn't find it with 'apt-cache search'. |
| 03:15.28 | Canucktux | I would like to make a unit file that changes my xorg.conf bases on system state when I power on |
| 03:15.30 | nkuttler | !tell zu22 about apt-file |
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| 03:19.37 | altker128 | Hey guys. I have disabled ipv4tcp syncookies but I still see "Possible SYN flooding, dropping request" in dmesg |
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| 03:21.27 | xar- | O_o |
| 03:21.56 | xar- | don't disable syn cookies, who told you to do that |
| 03:22.16 | simpledat | Do you know why I getting this message on every boot? "Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the system crashed before the ppp link was shut down." |
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| 03:24.15 | HeXiLeD | dpkg: vlc qt4 plugin |
| 03:24.15 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, HeXiLeD |
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| 03:27.48 | OUTsider | let's try another kernel image |
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| 03:28.44 | OUTsider | simpledat, do I need this file ? |
| 03:29.07 | ivan | simpledat: that's the name of the service it's starting |
| 03:29.15 | ivan | simpledat: you can ignore it |
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| 03:29.54 | ivan | it's designed to do the thing it says it does, because PPP can change resolv.conf |
| 03:30.29 | ivan | wonders if anyone uses PPP here |
| 03:30.44 | OUTsider | ppl living in the desert perhaps |
| 03:30.50 | simpledat | ivan: Why does it say if the system crashed before the |
| 03:30.52 | simpledat | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.00 | simpledat | ivan: My system has not crashed? |
| 03:31.09 | ivan | simpledat: it runs unconditionally |
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| 03:32.20 | simpledat | ivan: Ok thank you |
| 03:32.26 | simpledat | So there is nothing to worry about? |
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| 03:33.45 | ivan | I hope not |
| 03:35.18 | RoyK | simpledat: for what do you use ppp? |
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| 03:35.42 | simpledat | RoyK: What is ppp? |
| 03:35.51 | RoyK | point-to-point-protocol |
| 03:35.53 | ivan | simpledat never said he did |
| 03:35.56 | RoyK | or pptp |
| 03:36.35 | awal1 | tensorpudding, you must be careful with win10 future upgrades, it can make your debian unbootable |
| 03:36.57 | RoyK | some crap protocol for vpn developed by microsot that's still in the "information" track https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2637 |
| 03:37.10 | RoyK | it's rather bad |
| 03:37.13 | OUTsider | ivan: solved it |
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| 03:37.29 | ivan | OUTsider: cool, what was it |
| 03:37.37 | OUTsider | ivan: replaced the default 3.2 kernel with the 4.9 one |
| 03:37.43 | simpledat | RoyK: I installed fresh debian 9 stretch with MATE. Does not PPP include in this? |
| 03:37.57 | ivan | oh, heh, had no idea you were on debian 8 |
| 03:38.00 | RoyK | it really shouldn't |
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| 03:38.24 | ivan | OUTsider: or, why did you stretch have 3.2? |
| 03:38.25 | RoyK | you don't need that unless you use some retarded VPN connection |
| 03:38.34 | OUTsider | actually I was on wheezy to start with, from there upgraded to jessie, from there to stretch |
| 03:39.06 | OUTsider | which I kinda mentioned multiple times in here |
| 03:39.54 | OUTsider | and damn, the speed now booting the kernel.... |
| 03:40.00 | OUTsider | like 10 times faster |
| 03:40.07 | simpledat | RoyK: Like openvpn? |
| 03:40.12 | RoyK | simpledat: yes |
| 03:40.19 | RoyK | simpledat: that is, no |
| 03:40.26 | RoyK | simpledat: openvpn isn't retarded |
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| 03:40.45 | RoyK | simpledat: it just uses http for the transport - not PPTP |
| 03:40.46 | aindilis | anyone interested in packaging AI software? |
| 03:40.54 | RoyK | simpledat: PPTP *is* retarded |
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| 03:41.33 | RoyK | aindilis: any particular package? |
| 03:41.48 | OUTsider | thx anyways for the time |
| 03:41.58 | simpledat | RoyK: can I see when and why I installed PPP? |
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| 03:42.22 | RoyK | simpledat: not sure |
| 03:42.22 | OUTsider | simpledat, you could try to remove it and see which packages depend on it :P |
| 03:42.41 | OUTsider | then you know why |
| 03:42.43 | RoyK | simpledat: just uninstall it |
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| 03:42.57 | RoyK | apt-get purge … |
| 03:43.15 | aindilis | RoyK: just the biggest most important stuff first - I keep a need based queue in Prolog |
| 03:43.55 | simpledat | OUTsider: https://paste.debian.net/999372/ |
| 03:44.03 | simpledat | not depended? |
| 03:44.22 | RoyK | aindilis: I guess there's a mailing list for that - better than asking here |
| 03:44.43 | aindilis | RoyK: which one? |
| 03:44.46 | RoyK | simpledat: libpcap isn't directly related |
| 03:44.49 | RoyK | aindilis: google it |
| 03:44.57 | aindilis | k |
| 03:44.59 | RoyK | !packaging |
| 03:44.59 | dpkg | See http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers for information on how to package for Debian. Also ask me about <nmg> <package basics> <policy> <mentors> and <best practices>. |
| 03:45.18 | simpledat | RoyK: What do you mean? |
| 03:46.33 | RoyK | simpledat: it's just a package capture lib - not to worry |
| 03:46.58 | simpledat | why do I have libpcap and ppp installed on my system? |
| 03:47.10 | RoyK | aindilis: I didn't know people used prolog anymore :) |
| 03:47.23 | RoyK | simpledat: no idea - it's your machine |
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| 03:47.42 | aindilis | RoyK: the rules of first order logic and lindstrom's theorem are still true last I checked |
| 03:47.44 | simpledat | RoyK: I told you, its fresh installed |
| 03:48.12 | RoyK | simpledat: strange |
| 03:48.38 | RoyK | simpledat: did you check the iso file before installing? |
| 03:49.22 | simpledat | RoyK: netinstall |
| 03:49.41 | klys | simpledat, do you have pptpd or pppoe also? |
| 03:49.51 | RoyK | but then, before you enter deep-paranoia-mode, just check the iso, signatures etc |
| 03:50.19 | simpledat | klys: How do I check that? |
| 03:50.31 | simpledat | Package 'pptpd' is not installed, so not removed |
| 03:50.34 | klys | simpledat, dpkg -l | grep pp |
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| 03:50.44 | simpledat | Package 'pppoe' is not installed, so not removed |
| 03:50.55 | RoyK | pppoe is part of ppp iirc |
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| 03:51.09 | klys | simpledat, apt-cache showpkg ppp |
| 03:51.49 | RoyK | dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $1 }' will show installed packages |
| 03:51.49 | dpkg | ii | awk '/^ii/ { print $1 }' will show installed packages 3.1-5.3 royk's private warez collection |
| 03:51.54 | RoyK | apt-cache won't |
| 03:52.11 | RoyK | slaps dpkg |
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| 03:55.49 | pde333 | I just installed a new debian system (minimal stretch, upgraded straight to sid) and have a weird issue: |
| 03:55.55 | pde333 | virtual terminals are not working |
| 03:56.01 | pde333 | chvt works |
| 03:56.06 | simpledat | dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $1 }' <- what is this for? |
| 03:56.06 | dpkg | No packages found matching | awk '/^ii/ { print $1 }' <- what is this for |
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| 03:56.43 | pde333 | but when I try switching manually (control-alt-f2 for instance) I get weird character output ^[[26~ |
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| 03:57.07 | pde333 | I've tried to install systemd's virtual terminal packages (lots of them), and prod them through systemctl |
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| 03:58.56 | awal1 | pde333, the wise way is stable --» testing ---» unstable |
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| 04:02.35 | pde333 | will reinstall if I have to, but that would be a pretty unsatisfying solution |
| 04:02.50 | pde333 | to something that seems like either a systemd or keyboard mapping issue |
| 04:03.49 | pde333 | interestingly, when I did "chvt 2" I didn't get a terminal (and in fact got stuck with a blank screen and blinking cursor) |
| 04:04.02 | pde333 | however if I prod systemd to start that getty, I can then "chvt 2" to it |
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| 04:15.55 | simpledat | I installed a fresh debian 9 stretch from netinstall. Now I have ppp and libpcap installed for some reason. Should I be worried, is anyone trying to hack me? |
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| 04:27.15 | awal1 | ,v libpcap |
| 04:27.16 | judd | No package named 'libpcap' was found in amd64. |
| 04:27.32 | awal1 | ppp is arecommend of nm |
| 04:27.57 | awal1 | ,v libpcap0.8 |
| 04:27.58 | judd | Package: libpcap0.8 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.3.0-1; jessie: 1.6.2-2; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 1.7.4-1~bpo70+1; jessie-backports: 1.8.1-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.8.1-3; buster: 1.8.1-5; sid: 1.8.1-5 |
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| 04:39.50 | amigda | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: pvoigt gluon Loomaanaatii flipp hiya stu_meat chrissl dinoocch amd_0x51 sputnik musca cymen JStoker dvs pfote JCaesar klaas phenom Quick_Wango lchlan bitch Gaxpaxxo Mazhive scc StathisA level7_ ryouma akxwi-dave hiroki mindstorm blackwell Riviera krytarik GNU\colos Linlz Olufunmilayo n4cht awal1 naos62 p0g0 preview nshp donut_ peope littlekitty sbeyer McLive gehaxelt thblt` rnix |
| 04:39.50 | MAHIN | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: fred`` r0bby ledixus QualityAddict kopper PaulePanter Junaos thalos solos azizLIGHT CrazyyMaxx profall sukaeto milobit epony nicoulaj terr1 television Emmanuel_Chanel Netwolf pmcana koollman ArchDuke toozej askz nprs Ellied BlessJah b0l3x mxh_ brianx adellam subpath infernix dcpc007 baum SirLagz _MMx Cork sekjun9878 kirkland hassoon Adbray genpaku heap_ benf Ekho |
| 04:39.50 | candic | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: Stummi seyeongkim db` graytron StathisA mdroid hank asterismo_l iodev sbeyer kline Guest55057 Xanthor Olipro Unit193 cbdev pron bradjones Dave[m]1 ghoti Arkaniad DarkG hassoon Linlz nopf luckman212 denken Amun_Ra kd8llt volodim xai corretico rupam123456 codeyaugust epony Ellied rachelfish fstd Marlon nighty- sussudio grinsekatze MeltedLux tiin57 s7r Nevolution2 jonasbits Cisien niko Halcy0n |
| 04:39.50 | husba | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: RickXy loeken Aix_ xai laddite pflanze nicoulaj PaulePanter cateye Granis hue strungout mukmuk martyn_h nebul8 tuv TmvC dinoocch f5ck SirLagz Scotteh arosusi basicmiracle supersoju syamaoka installibre Ekho jsdk AimHere Poster musalbas dayten rant lstanley or4n Cabanossi nurupo Zharf JZTech101 rachelfish jelly lazouz MeltedLux AlwaysHigh M3mphiZ zmachine pinnen b0l3x oberstei |
| 04:39.50 | KONS | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: Ralin3 adrenaline nymony cmam Jguy vectr0n|cloud blitzed hexnewbie cymen noxid infinity_ Aristide cusco klow ashka bionix rudi_s musti kolla M3mphiZ Swant MrGeneral petemc bnw oliva Phibonacci woky jham cadillac_ edi imMute Canucktux webmind Guest38449 Emmanuel_Chanel television duckydan _systemd_is_evil cryptodan_mobile beardface noexcept qtch Doldge ramshadow MrDetonia Guest36146 McLive gby Ai |
| 04:39.50 | padroneas | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: Se-bash bnw ponyofdeath thiagoss ggherdov Mysterytrain Zyferus webbyz akxwi-dave ChmEarl mukmuk mibo asterismo_l homegrown hank clopez likcoras jelly yeticry nickdastain Mad_Hatemp Spitfire k_sze[work] Tempesta argusbr jonathaN ibex klys toorop vegenaise DXR churnd slax0r nix-7 nhandler MrGeneral zerocool Savemech smidlers u13 SkIzZaTo Aebian tonyoy Lxrowe raSter^ installibre Gransy Ze` JC |
| 04:39.50 | amigda | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: mdroid xaero hex2a kolla DXR Guest36146 Colti padroneas koenvg valerius vook_ blackwell shabius loddfafnir vegenaise kunwon1 argusbr password4 homegrown iCherry nprs lebster rogst atf `z craysiii hicks_ r0bby MrDetonia ArKane DarkG DustyDin1o Aix_ kevy0 Kobaz kallesbar dtux Diaoul BaW AWindowsKrill jgornick hagabaka ksft JCaesar n0nada lappet ihre dinoocch subpath nezZario |
| 04:39.50 | candic | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: RaiNerTsuFal baba_ sjk1 dexta LeandroLuiz ledeni danwellby atf afx237 jdn_ lrvick t0ne ToToL flyingkiwi gacekjk mda1 mcint Junaos SerajewelKS BotaniCar Mrloafbot_ mypapit nikow meti seyeongkim Kamilion Brumbazz sayo- Zerant- Andreas33 SirCmpwn oliva Danielss89 dym AvatarA Cisien cbdev Graypup_ t FinalX dadinn roshanavand kocubinski hexhaxtron BlackPanx berndj SporkWitch Halcy0n coolchris vamiry |
| 04:39.50 | candic | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: Guest20032 ibttis ibex cheeseboy crayon lift scc eb0t_ nyaomi ProfessorKaos64 infernix kchr_ BlackPanx grumble ghostyyy HugsWontletgo Trellmor Puckel_ Adbray RickXy bkraptor lappet RyanKnack leochill sloucher AxForest poeticrpm abracadaniel komori kini digdilem vizzy_zzz kallesbar cymen styks1987 Arsiesys Galihom somnambler dysfigured sztelke Gurty ponyofdeath Willis haircode mypapit Pugabyte Natrick mz` san |
| 04:39.50 | amigda | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: abra0 barteks2x daemonkeeper mzf klys Doldge puzzlingWeirdo daishan James_T yuastnav FoolishOwl webuser5224 pagios Downer Ralin3 stu_meat percY- ghostyyy seyeongkim Iridos nopf nicdev timeless Apeiron` danwellby devbaka__ leibniz sussudio lukky513 sugarfr trench syamaoka DK2 n arosusi EnergyCoffee cnu- Relicka Kobaz braingain FinalX ffernand peterandre Diaoul mumixam GJdan thoros |
| 04:39.50 | husba | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: Schmiel Peetz0r jocthbr Dave[m]1 nyuszika7h GeraldW SleePy Groenleer DzAirmaX Incepti0n AvatarA FoolishOwl zululee soahccc coderphive Cueball dixie7z_ sidmo_ neechan ghormoon Purec abra0 Hachya mxh_ SkIzZaTo Swant cryptodan_mobile jesopo do0m bionix noahfx cyberzeus ahf_ tomodachi PlasmaStar breitenj nwe iTeV mdroid totonika hipp eXcept p0rt thoros dinoocch Gaxpaxxo bobe berndj Blanco |
| 04:39.50 | MAHIN | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: disi ScottE sistematico kwmiebach BroTroxer jpic apollo13 zululee ponyofdeath Adbray steveeJ sander85 mukmuk richvdh Se-bash Wotac ariador mumm DarkDevil Masaomi[m] boxrick s0ph0s dustinm` JPT TriJetScud iflema Cerise Nazara jssjr olegfusion pcdummy Malinux shel shannara_ television aesin kirb brouette professorp6[m] xPucTu4 ageis TReK vvande_ Xyle Guest20032 abra0 xorex jlacroix churnd Keitaro |
| 04:39.50 | sempatikm | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: dirac1 wybczu DarkG Quick_Wango nighty- pelegreno_ or4n zulu RedSoxFan07 rysiek|pl shadoxx braingain Attoy citypw lazouz SwedeMike teraflops Lazuruz Alam_Squeeze crash_ Quantumcross jlacroix GrimKriegor preaction muck ephemer0l Marbug_ vook_ DalekSec yeticry _MMx mxh_ CeBe do0m Groenleer admiral0 flipp stmiller bobe Bercik creichen pfote ksft Xanthor JyZyXEL Kitt |
| 04:39.50 | KONS | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: miklcct zmachine Dr-Shadow AndyBlue n4cht lavenders Jurkki grew Schmiel laddite JCaesar AWindowsKrill roastedsnowflake xet7 reu bemawi necrogami loeken x10 roylaprattep db` jesopo BlackPanx barteks2x madonius Red_M amigda lmcloughlin nopf AlwaysHigh guios ivan kocubinski sander85 idmistir rnix alan_o Kitty mdorenka leochill breitenj Lal_ blackwell mz` slax0r Alam_Squeeze slouc |
| 04:39.50 | MAHIN | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: peterrooney f5ck asterismo_l softwa icxcnika_ Sabaku ahf_ sistematico APexil richvdh DarkDevil AvatarA thekingofbandit Renari elkmoose elysium karstensrage nrs- Church- AndrewMC ibex sjk1 CEnnis91 TvL2386 serban flipp dustinm` tccki webpigeon talin hassoon devbaka__ DzAirmaX Comstock- ToToL osx edi aaro scoopex evilbug AndyBlue orb cvr vamiry piklu tarzeau_ NaPs Peetz0r hexnewbie gareth_ |
| 04:39.50 | radicaldr | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: vaidy precise dayten ponyofdeath sbeyer beaky BroTroxer redrabbit Louis supersoju rysiek|pl Namarrgon thoros tabris Stummi pokeguylow vectr0n|cloud littlekitty Dj_Dexter `ryban orbiter SirLagz nitemare Igel xand abff cbdev qoreQyaS Mysterytrain JC_SoCal Bercik NeilHanlon Amun_Ra quasisane jdn_ mhall119 coruja goberle bluszcz wzyy2 n0nada nux lstanley Infra_3600 |
| 04:39.50 | basilb | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: DXR keith4 Muff kingsley leibniz Aristar fasdfd ToeSnacks eXcept pvn1 hue APLU mreznik flipp shannara_ bw_ mf|cloud bkraptor Waggie pinnen atomi nobody madonius mniip serban snadge adellam bitch admiral0 Emmanuel_Chanel cerenous popnfresh dysfigured Zyferus _0x5eb_ mdroid mos_basik wingman2 Mysterytrain flokuehn sqz babilen Kitty Lal_ AlexZ_ nix-7 mgdelacroix syamaoka pv |
| 04:39.50 | basilb | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: heinrich5991 Pavr f5ck Riviera drale2k MoDaX like2k1 soul-d askz Olufunmilayo Sabotender czarny_ziutek[m] eXcept Marbug_ cbdev colo-work petemc blue olivetre cateye CEnnis t3eblinder1 dysfigured oberling AlexWkz georgeowell scc bitch kallesbar r0bby RobertClarke Alam_Squeeze DXR fred`` dudz Spitfire Namarrgon Poster distantorigin grim4593 Tulah Danielss89 edvb ^v Lazuruz |
| 04:39.50 | basilb | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: dselect bemawi devurandom test659898[m] orangey zokum BlackPanx Rockj daishan scc Otyg_ bnw pvn1 hex2a MonsterKiller vizzy_zzz television bradjones waz0wski Gabemo_ adellam gatekeep ripdog nhandler roastedsnowflake nezZario padroneas rrva edvb sekjun9878 Guest40802 CompWizrd kallesbar Incepti0n eliptical satanist Aebian Bercik ezra-s phaseNi dtux AndrewMC thekingofbandit homegrown Tex |
| 04:39.52 | mumm | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: uxfi dym Natrick Pichet_ DarkDevil atf pierrot apt bw_ lifeofguenter_ sander85 GGMethos ghost43 dysfigured Pugabyte MrGeneral james41382 keith4 piklu Trellmor hexa- Mysterytrain luckman212 Gazooo Noskcaj Ralin3 hsiktas goberle webbyz tomreyn mirsal_ lan_stuff ChrisH int0x27h Al_lA MeltedLux heurist m4rCsi vOYtEC sphalerite SpeedBus_ oliva nkuttler darkstalker rawruw distantorigin roastedsnowflak |
| 04:39.52 | bjveqx | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: Pichet_ Zerant- slax0r gonyere abff SwedeMike Puckel_ zululee PlasmaStar littlekitty tadz pppktz Relicka heinrich5991 SirLagz stmiller b0b Nefertiti niko parshimers codebam Gaxpaxxo nobody Cypher100 nshp tremolo babilen padroneas imMute hank IdleGandalf rOss^64 agresor `slikts breitenj Randy JyZyXEL bendem beardface gacekjk x10 freanux nurupo JC_SoCal gehaxelt akxwi-dave mr__tea alexbligh1 sander85 test659898[m |
| 04:39.52 | bjveqx | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: phogg zbert CrazyyMaxx Tempesta t0aster0ven Zerant- adelyne APexil Graypup_ adellam bitch ilbelkyr levifig grew Rockj ripdog schmidta gatekeep RT_FM Nawab phantomcircuit zack6849 otih_ darkalia SirCmpwn tomreyn grumble roastedsnowflake mrr0butt eir Psy-Q AndyBlue pete_ boturk Pedr0 CompWizrd Firztspawn xai babilen ponyofdeath RH_IO naos62 Guest36146 DLange Amplificator rtur Hobbyboy meLon WizardGed dos1 |
| 04:39.52 | bjveqx | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: ibttis necrogami askz Nik05 rdleon Texou tuv flokuehn kmd necrose99_ rax- IdleGandalf yen0p alkyl roastedsnowflake bnw soul-d daishan Relicka mdroid b0b pokeguylow k-man sugarfr webbyz dsnow_ dinoocch lsv satbyy NeilHanlon Louis [Brain] johnnyfive rumsickle marens Pedr0 slack_ dusares_ lukasdboer foriin chud CtrlC dtux mel00010 aaro karakedi pixdamix thoros cyberzeus Noskcaj |
| 04:39.52 | bjveqx | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: Tempesta xtore babilen simpledat zupzupper musti Incepti0n AJ_Z0 cmichel_ mirsal_ satbyy bendem turfrex azarus CissWit tyranny12 sayo- churnd ramshadow jham Sir_Designer__ otih_ zokum SleePy Letze_ donut_ professorp6[m] pete_ BrainDommage n4cht _MMx K1rk bove tadz tomash duckydan lsv Galihom muck dysfigured preaction MoDaX qoreQyaS verm1n gardar totonika snkcld jpic Gurty ckuehl |
| 04:39.54 | mumm | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: SleePy tekmo Rubin wzyy2 MuffinMedic skney cerenous sander85 kdragon Jdbye pagios pete_ Apteryx ssgelm mihaicmn_ k-man somnambler ledixus dselect RH_IO moritz__ pvoigt gehaxelt akxwi-dave pyllyukko sniku__ Nefertiti abff sekjun9878 mirsal_ daemonkeeper olivetree_ fnkr trewas jdn_ nadley adellam DustyDin1o n-st otih_ ehlodex pierrot gftg fasdfd sdx23 krzych shahri ihre dtux testing214[m] |
| 04:39.56 | shel | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: uwd_ Emmanuel_Chanel darkalia Spiffy jgornick roastedsnowflake Peetz0r popnfresh eir CompWizrd k-man nobody nicoulaj vaidy Pseudo pagios infernix Digz DzAirmaX GNU\colossus kerrh mumixam wzyy2 nhandler Malinux blue ksk msev- bfit spanglesontoast Sabotender ffernand Blanco nux Miss_Cosmo civillian `ryban ripdog barteks2x austin987 Otyg_ cmichel_ jmcnaught Robby Schmiel Deflate HeXiLeD |
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| 04:40.06 | Chic | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: scc r0bby lionheartActual amospalla djanos nkuttler Puckel_ lifeofguenter_ fearnothing gvvg__ yen0p kmd jhebden Savemech gareth__ SerajewelKS epony neechan Gazooo gonyere MeltedLux EnergyCoffee Scotteh guerby nicdev ksk Iridos nevyn lift KNERD Orochimarufan dbristow hessu padroneas eps _rubik Gransy nwe LightAmaze jrj Swant reallycooldude Danielss89 brw dellhell Se-bash s0lar1s Sir_Designer__ foul_owl Mathisen |
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| 04:40.16 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 04:40.21 | jack_hark | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: kline x10 spanglesontoast DustyDin1o ShapeShifter499 skney Enrico_Menotti TuxShells admiral0 thurin milobit monty Commander1024 SerajewelKS Malinux NeilHanlon Guest20032 kini jelly brouette corretico wybczu de-facto subpath czarny_ziutek[m] _MMx roastedsnowflake xaero qtch Trellm Marlon mgdelacroix nathanhi dinoocch hayer_ adi alxd namix glennb xai sugarfr konimex magyar darkalia alexbligh1 webbyz mo |
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| 04:40.32 | softwa | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: cyphix_ rtur qqx banging_ swordsmanz boturk stu_meat cooldude blacksyke pete_ Janhouse snw konimex Schmiel f3bruary GrimKriegor binary106 spooky roger_rabbit BlackPanx x10 r0Oter kculpis Nawab skagerak password4 Schmantinski wybczu atf AndrewMC VBrain yeticry masber parshimers dayten roylaprattep JZTech101 leochill b0l3x Rhuarc tangarora Alchemical dave0x6d tobias1 mastensg Dave[m]1 iTeV kocubinski Louis mf |
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| 04:40.34 | r0bby | uh-oh special ed let out |
| 04:40.37 | CtrlC | Almost 2018 and still this idiots exist! |
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| 04:40.38 | agresor | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: ^v Nothing4You infernix bolt Pseudo APLU JPT bfit Hobby_boy thoros cymen TimWolla Igel relaxed rax- austin987 Gransy verboese sandeepkr Andrew_0010bit CrazyEddy JStoker clopez popnfresh sirecote BbT0n CrazyyMaxx nshp pseubodot skza benjen Doldge dxrt MuffinMedic noexcept cyboman33 craysiii pagios cryptic adc ryouma g4spr0m breitenj bardkorren m4rCsi sqz kmd Janhouse homegrown Velgor |
| 04:40.43 | Digz | aww.... all I wanted for Christmas was a highlight! Thank you Santa Claus! |
| 04:40.45 | sugarfr | <dax> idiots like you should not be in #freenode...: tripkin inaki vOYtEC precise solos jiffe `ryban laddite orangey bcd Otyg_ kculpis ehlodex lufeng evotopid hmpf1 orb tw atwar crayon jeddi Trieste Roedy grumble sielicki Guest4726 chaosdav eck m4rCsi arha gluon CME peterrooney mossman Ericounet llimeht LambdaCalculus37 sparty kdragon flokuehn seank_ sobkas sydney_untangle guardian Zharf TacoGS_ runde Keridos luz1 bazhang |
| 04:40.45 | sugarfr | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: Piper-Off Marbug_ F14W3D Igel thecliguy baum b0l3x Nefertiti GhostInTheShell austin987 elysium cbdev Brumbazz ledeni freanux Poster antismap RoyK dooglus aliasnumber13 introom msantana hmpf1 Raed natr0x darkalia Anarchic Toffe ryouma jonathan_ Butt3rfly Galihom Shahnaz- larjona hank Deflate RichiH dvs sydney_untangle stu_meat phebus peterandre Mysterytrain hiya wzyy2 Modeuse likcoras civillia |
| 04:40.45 | sugarfr | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: austin987 nagetier exezin beaorn Church- Piper-Off dka chen ghost43 brem cendo radicaldr dpkg funnel fnmueller TriJetScud dadinn Logg Renari gregf pingveno boubou swordsmanz MrDetonia bcd strungout leochill ramshadow UukGoblin pron arha Downer ineiros jdn_ bionix alxd xand blackwell zwamkat_ Otyg_ int0x27h Hydrastra dubwoc jhill fasdfd ra1stlin swaechter crash_ iCherry edwardly |
| 04:40.45 | sugarfr | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: abra0 cvr jakew coolchris dixie7z_ Almtesh richvdh nomad_dw cheeseboy t0ne Nazara chaosdav BbT0n Lady_Aleena iskatu platicus2 toadstar miklcct jcarpenter2 toruvinn dwar melvin peterandre Quantumcross tyranny12 Loomaanaatii orbiter allu2 Robby ThomasJ|d bertbob Sleepy63 mel00010 m4dh4tt4 exezin Poster AimHere eldritch smidlers Epakai max-m GhostInTheShell rr Deviance lkolstad Obi-Wan torrezno Dezponia[m] nage |
| 04:40.45 | sugarfr | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: sputnik hipodils1i Mrloafbot_ ehlodex blackest_mamba martybr phinxy LordLamer roylaprattep swaechter thecoffemaker cendo oberstein Hydrastra Guest93468 alxd karlamrhein disi rolig systemdave edvb tekmo ArchDuke adds68 jhq mundus T_Karras gr4yscale richvdh pyllyukko iter jmyrv Python1320 AlwaysHigh benj_ alreece45 fiet ghostyyy gmh AimHere CrazyEddy nathanhi Gurty JyZyXEL Dollar Otyg_ ilbel |
| 04:40.53 | yuc | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: schornacht brouette xcin BotaniCar joh HeXiLeD mr__tea GGMethos hikiko kriskropd lift tharkun fearnothing nauticalnexus typosaurus Digz jannic tiwake Gurty craysiii argusbr karstensrage dadinn otih_ benklop ripdog benf JasonO t0aster0ven ihre systemdave necrogami namix tw SPF Anarchic imMute somnambler austin987 ToeSnacks Zardoz Hijiri Immanuel lord_helmet bobe Xyle ephemer0l NickyP Colti |
| 04:40.53 | yuc | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: Zardoz x10 gonyere CrazyyMaxx bardkorren Alam_Squeeze kchr_ neskau Tr4sK Mathisen nhandler ogi tekk james41382 benjen bier funnel masber allu2 oberling preaction ron-slc Aristide ageis clopez nezZario PIBER simon_q apt adc sputnik shadoxx cybrNaut mzf sphalerite aaro gildarts cthuluh eir mrr0butt ibttis profall Ad1Tech cnu- johnnyfive chaosdav jrabe leachim6 fatalis rudi_s |
| 04:40.53 | yuc | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: ibttis petn-randall freanux ForceRecon vvande_ GGMethos Anarchic Al_lA morphis__ Energy Nefertiti cvr kward Cabanossi DarkDevil dings Galihom fyrril max-m bardkorren yuastnav Andocromn Iridos Soliton czarny_ziutek[m] thecliguy brouette riddle ribasushi n4cht rlange AndyBlue gehaxelt BlackPanx tobiw Tom-_ skza thalos musca sbeyer hex2a DXR SkIzZaTo stealthii subpath romana berndj lifeofguen |
| 04:40.53 | yuc | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: rook2pawn ToeSnacks swordsmanz mihaicmn_ testing214[m] Guest55057 sn0wmonster jeddi qtch HurricaneHarry nevyn IdleGandalf bier sc_ Roger9 JasonO teej scc Digz Ad1Tech MACscr komugi Pwnna krytarik Mysterytrain Len nux mel00010 Warrigal SerkanDevel[m] rozie tacocat fred`` dusares_ orangey Mathisen boturk flokuehn turfrex lstanley AlexZ_ ponyofdeath mdroid x10 piklu gftg DLange nutron|w bureado Hachya |
| 04:40.53 | yuc | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: mindstorm Cypher100 chud ckuehl `ryban AlexWkz zymurgy ijmad yeticry m4rCsi mhall119 eb0t qzo cmichel_ GGMethos tomreyn shabius Rubin Miss_Cosmo Namidairo gratuxri Crash swordsmanz Rockj lebster architekt hsik pugfantus Renari klys Clouder BlessJah Toris F14W3D mrtadis kmd topi` JyZyXEL MACscr jham Downer TvL2386 Pavr lbatalha LiENUS n0p_ Church- benf banging_ akxwi-dave |
| 04:40.57 | ghostyyy | what in the fuck is sigyn |
| 04:40.57 | jcarpenter2 | oh HI |
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| 04:41.06 | r0bby | ghostyyy: Spam anagement bot |
| 04:41.09 | jcarpenter2 | i'll take this as excuse to say, fonts suck |
| 04:41.10 | r0bby | management* |
| 04:41.14 | el | ghostyyy: the murderbot that cleans up spam |
| 04:41.26 | jcarpenter2 | shucky darns! |
| 04:41.27 | r0bby | Sigyn: kills spammers |
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| 04:41.32 | webbyz | but what's the point of those bots? |
| 04:41.33 | ghostyyy | m-murderbot???? D: |
| 04:41.41 | Scope6 | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: toozej bendem jhill satbyy jlacroix Marlon Aristide enki michaelni installibre Zyferus monoxane r0bby syamaoka Brian- ssgelm JasonO drale2k bemawi Nefertiti daishan de-facto grepper Stummi karakedi mukmuk DoctorD90 rogst jrabe Piper-Off dak Infra_3600 hsiktas roshanavand yang-X DaVinciCode1 planetmaker stefanc_diff loeken AlexWkz Schmiel lsyoyom el pixdamix rumsickl |
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| 04:41.41 | Scope6 | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: juhop adi SwedeMike rudi_s electro33 topi` wybczu shtirlic Attoy Rhuarc mgdelacroix jgornick Renari Poster Kitty Cueball BaW ryouma makz Junaos rnix magenbrot iCherry jmcnaught g4spr0m professorp6[m] M3mphiZ scc zbert s7r mirsal_ pk12 DzAirmaX thblt` tomodachi chalcedony babilen snkcld WizardGed Hoosilon krytarik ChrisH sukaeto ^v SM0TVI Acrisor tarzeau_ linuxdaemon pr |
| 04:41.41 | Scope6 | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: ihre HeXiLeD sirecote Dad` ArKane flyingkiwi sloucher colo-work installibre like2k1 mel00010 Hooloovo0 Jim[m] alxd StephenS dtux Danielss89 zmachine DarkDevil mirsal_ sander85 duoi fstd qeqsgb xtore vegenaise gftg solos gr4yscale DXR Iridos madonius dvs Gabemo_ leibniz fred`` rogst Anarchic tangarora adellam nshp otih_ thekingofbandit nopf SirCmpwn Red_M au |
| 04:41.41 | [CFLe | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: xand grim4593 Ralin3 beuker lift NightKhaos dadinn nevyn lebster [q__ sukaeto vvz SM0TVI wingman2 botho sielicki Hijiri flokuehn Adbray WizardGed yuastnav s7r shabius kirb f5ck m4rCsi ijmad bemawi BotaniCar pawalls Emmanuel_Chanel Gazooo pixdamix NickyP Tsutsukakushi soul-d Psy-Q Nach0z schornacht sudhackar_ Dr-Shadow LostSoul adelyne jolt sc_ de-facto Robby wooden HeXiLeD altendk |
| 04:41.41 | [CFLe | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: bzed MobileMatt snw kini jandrusk Psy-Q zerocool m4rCsi MACscr twisted` karlamrhein AndrewMC Ze` Riviera precise Fastolph ron-slc Renari grew Druid citypw _aeris_ jonathan_ blacksyke TuxShells wingman2 nrs- turfrex popnfresh SpeedBus_ wooden _bsurfer_ ezra-s mumixam BlackPanx mihaicmn_ palinuro hassoon Bercik m712 ChrisH Peterzen Amplificator xcin bnw AWindowsKrill CodeBlue1776 Optimus_Prime shtir |
| 04:41.41 | [CFLe | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: nrs- cmichel_ idmistir Hoosilon atf AfroThundr zopieux sistematico NeilHanlon Guest55057 jocthbr jgornick helldorado starev davimore donut_ Relicka dave0x6d kdragon JStoker banc Diaoul u13 leibniz hank CeBe bitch s0lar1s Halcy0n bobe Smuckerz bnw cateye Rubin frazr Malinux mypapit AimHere rax- ChrisH int0x27h ssgelm sidmo_ Ze` qqx peteski tuv nux mzf Ralin3 |
| 04:41.41 | Scope6 | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: Cueball folivora tarzeau_ twisted` adc beardy AJ_Z0 `z iflema Furai tekmo Kilo`byte pseubodot Nik05 GTAXL _0x5eb_ ArKane Anarchic nux preview StathisA patsToms uxfi Sciuro simon_q greenbagels distantorigin Infra_3600 makz HotSwap adds68 zyley bobe nickdastain Letze_ drale2k xand bnw roguelazer tuv x10 dexta xPucTu4 CissWit t0aster0ven flyingkiwi marens p0g0 jpic chachasmooth_ |
| 04:41.41 | Scope6 | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: ryouma tonyoy blitzed musalbas xtore nO0b aaro [E]sc dysfigured yen0p GrimKriegor darxmurf MichaelSasser ivan blind tacocat lbatalha cryptic blackmajic planetmaker Profound leochill alreece45 mgdelacroix zack6849 Gurty sloucher blackwell sjk1 nezZario peope ProfessorKaos64 Relicka Renari codeyaugust heinrich5991 [CFLe moritz__ Guest4726 futex xPucTu4 Adbray ponyofdeath niko djz88- tuv integral nhandle |
| 04:41.42 | ISmokeCra | IN FREENODE NEWS E QUIT/FIRED BY CHRISTEL: unixbassen karlamrhein MeltedLux ryan-c elios installibre mar77i fnkr mavhq typosaurus heap_ Diaoul ephemer0l bureado Red_M mxh_ sistematico ericnoan stwalkerster barteks2x Dad` gratuxri thecliguy niko d-fence__ IdleGandalf bkraptor alexlist fleaz nopf xcin nhandler hammer065 oberling M0nk3y armin Ze` ikevin Piper-Off ToToL scyte darkstalker fiet TMan459 Rhuarc SpacePenguin oliva Lady_Aleena cateye rysiek|pl |
| 04:41.42 | ISmokeCra | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: Shadowcrit bazhang ikevin martybr drot Guest93468 aedinius fearnothing noxid styks1987 xtore TvL2386 melvin tangarora Profound samouy elios sparty CrazyEddy jddccn synthmeat wolfmitchell Arroyo1010 TmvC Logg Hooloovo0 terr1 otih_ boturk qzo karstensrage Deviance die4i Graypup_ n4cht fauweh QualityAddict lchlan PIBER rant CHRiSNEW rysiek|pl ledeni sbeyer r00t Schwarzbaer eir sp |
| 04:41.42 | ISmokeCra | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: himuraken_ ffernand nopf apollojustice mhall119 NightKhaos yokel lbatalha iCherry gftg kevr jannic do0m edvb lappet krzych brouette oberstein Megaf BaW db` Warrigal larjona BlackPanx BotaniCar eXcept stoffepojken ecscg terr1 zymurgy aedinius nshp chud ThomasJ|d creat TmvC |stefan| pfoo Dj_Dexter blackmajic NightShade Hobby_boy koenvg hiyosi Savemech Ticho p0g0 zarzar2 p0rt OS- |
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| 04:41.42 | ISmokeCra | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: xPucTu4 MoDaX linuxdaemon Gm4n hessu muck serban {sd}- mumixam dirac1 abra0 _bsurfer_ nyuszika7h Warrigal nickdastain davimore Saar cef tobiw quasisane mnuhmnuh_ ThoMe Lazuruz Aristide uwd_ lift AndrewMC hipp Crash like2k1 chud pvn1 BlessJah LostSoul [Brain] pixdamix strungout borsin ehlodex bigjazzsound treaki4 HugsWontletgo karakedi w0bni cryptodan_mobile precise Dave[m]1 ke |
| 04:41.42 | ISmokeCra | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: mos_basik shpingrlde ghost43 Raed dayten guios helldorado davidebeatrici fleaz grew hiroki _bsurfer_ totonika nnyby jlacroix jannic sniku__ allu2 otih_ Sleepy63 AciD` fstd djanos Natrick jocthbr hasdf Lazuruz gacekjk himuraken_ lstanley serban rachelfish blackwell vaidy Nach0z SpeedyG jpic luz1 hmpf1 ponyofdeath trench shingouz laddite MACscr nadley SporkWi password4 bzed themill beardy |
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| 04:41.44 | papel | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: Deviance Gabemo_ max-m peterandre grumble sqz LiENUS nO0b rnix imMute jssjr Doldge beaver lufeng slack_ sbeyer SerkanDevel[m] Rubin adds68 Mazhive mnuhmnuh_ tomreyn Warrigal Hijiri Riviera Emmanuel_Chanel futex zbert[m] jonathan_ n-st romana tapout yang-X Peetz0r k_sze[work] thblt` zack6849 iCherry bigpresh xet7 nhandler RobertClarke ryouma Andocromn heap_ sjk1 armin neskau ghost43 |
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| 04:41.46 | guest555 | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: djanos ejsf_ x10 latez Otyg_ dondelcaro gareth__ mnuhmnuh_ qtch Junaos pmcana DoctorD90 k1412 czarny_ziutek[m] CeBe Comstock- SwedeMike woky giraffe loeken spanglesontoast Namidairo peterS gftg syamaoka amospalla blacksyke peope musalbas t SkIzZaTo lsv BbT0n TuxShells mreznik slicepaperwords futex bezaban mypapit teclo- ehlodex jonasbits Druid blind jrj prasket simon_q shabius askz ghostyyy |
| 04:41.46 | hamm | <emerson> no, I am not a queer!!: level7_ pierrot oberling dudz Gransy riddle funnel nezZario slax0r kallesbar SkIzZaTo DarkG botho goberle supersoju DarkDevil adelyne serban thalos eb0t_ _bsurfer_ rrva palinuro rudi_s Piper-Off s0lar1s television hen- churnd peterandre coderphive yonder fnmueller Andocromn nO0b zopieux ISmokeCra darkstalker pfote afx237 AWindowsKrill kchr_ sparty BroTroxer ksk DustyDin1o redrabbit renzhi Aristide adr |
| 04:41.48 | Church- | Speaking of spam. I'm amused by opal. Been finding their spam on obscure irc servers now. |
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| 04:41.49 | ghostyyy | do a cool ascii spam |
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| 04:41.53 | dkrtrem | CHRISTEL HIRED NIKO BACK...WITH ALL THE OPERS COMING AND GOING SOUNDS SHADY!!: Cisien Nawab TmvC BaW ibex MrDetonia K1rk Zauberfisch Natrick nurupo yonder Mmike Kulrak Guest93468 SM0TVI Colti pflanze Xanthor egos yeticry scc Arsiesys lord_helmet Unit193 Sciuro Olipro musca dadinn MobileRecon eb0t ledixus matlock zyley acperkins bendem RH_IO SkIzZaTo morphis__ epsilon solos jmsx Ekchuan AFNobody Jguy bw_ dka nrs- Kamilion trewas aaro |
| 04:41.53 | dkrtrem | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: volter mumixam grim4593 koenvg michael_mbp eldritch r0Oter Tristan-Speccy ca_buf precise xtore greenbagels dysfigured esainane thalos seyeongkim nymony ChmEarl Cueball kchr_ Schmiel wizzy_ teraflops Andrew_0010bit rdleon Hachya JC_SoCal spanglesontoast nkuttler Acrisor _bsurfer_ jolt Kilo`byte michaelni hagabaka nitemare diniwed skney electro33 karakedi andhoy mirsal_ mf| |
| 04:41.54 | fabien | EMERSON AND NIKO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING OVER WHO IS GOING TO RUN SIGYN!!: necrogami Rhuarc lbatalha architekt preaction thekingofbandit distantorigin prasket papel homegrown installibre turfrex Tom-_ daemonkeeper jlacroix f3bruary Pwnna abracadaniel nitemare RichiH sasukeskapa klaas fnmueller enki zymurgy James_T amospalla Iridos Schmiel tomreyn gardar beuker Henry151 Pseudo Druid APexil atomi SerkanDevel[m] rawruw AndrewMC darxmurf lrvick at |
| 04:41.55 | ghostyyy | like you see on efnet |
| 04:41.57 | Purec | it's angry |
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| 04:42.16 | ghostyyy | ugh here comes the no fun police |
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| 04:42.39 | webbyz | I'm ok with the bots advertising porn once in a while. As that takes less effort for us having to hella search the net. :P |
| 04:42.39 | el | somiaj: i was considering +r for a bit but if you're here i'll let you drive |
| 04:42.52 | r0bby | webbyz: pornhub. Use it :) |
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| 04:42.57 | webbyz | ev |
| 04:43.00 | Purec | it's too vanilla |
| 04:43.02 | webbyz | eh* |
| 04:43.06 | *** mode/#debian [+r] by somiaj |
| 04:43.10 | lila-magg | <el> I started ##feminism because i think most white men are pigs: dudz bove thiagoss phaseNi idmistir qeqsgb likcoras mdroid Mrloafbot_ Aebian xand qman__ sed mrr0b nicdev lift ghoti bureado mdorenka LightAmaze adi banc Ekho ivan shabius television supersoju ericnoan daishan RUDE Louis thurin xcin tomocha_ Doldge CodeBlue1776 yang-X Arrowmaster elios tabakhase klow brouette HurricaneHarry towo^work Willis soahccc vOYtEC sc_ nwe klaas |
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| 04:43.16 | somiaj | el: that is what I was going to do. |
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| 04:43.22 | poeticrpm | I dont understand the purpose of the spam? Lolz? Do they get off seeing discussion on the topic? Seems like a really stupid approach to feeling relevant |
| 04:43.23 | webbyz | bots can send us better porn maybe |
| 04:43.26 | Unit193 | Fantastic. |
| 04:43.28 | sampe | ELLENOR HAS BEEN REPORTLY SHARING CP BE CAREFUL!!: Cabanossi roguelazer vamiry dubwoc rancyd nix-7 Guest20032 chalcedony oba craysiii imMute nicoasPL[m] dka sidmo_ n0p_ DLange DalekSec banging_ eldritch soul-d Igel tarzeau_ cyphix_ folivora shtirlic tabakhase lsyoyom ghormoon exezin NaPs PIBER SM0TVI cateye starev ihre mrr0butt RoyK^ zopieux juhop deltam pseubodot VBrain Firztspawn eb0t_ thoros hasdf linuxthefish savoret bionix noahfx |
| 04:43.43 | ghostyyy | poeticrpm, these are some hard-hitting facts theyre spamming |
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| 04:43.50 | ghostyyy | its a tough job but somebody has to inform the people |
| 04:44.07 | k_sze[work] | I remember once seeing bot spam that let me to google it, and then I found out about sofurry. |
| 04:44.15 | webbyz | Luckily +r killed the bots! |
| 04:44.20 | k_sze[work] | s/let/led/ |
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| 04:44.38 | webbyz | whatever +r does |
| 04:44.41 | RoyK | voaches for +r on #debian |
| 04:44.44 | webbyz | it's a lifesaver. |
| 04:44.49 | somiaj | webbyz: only regsitered users can join the channel. |
| 04:45.11 | somiaj | webbyz: in general there are many debian users who want support without a registered account, so we prefer not to have that, but it helps during a bot attack. |
| 04:45.40 | webbyz | sounds good to me! |
| 04:45.41 | RoyK | possibly someone hates us and bought access to botnet - that happens |
| 04:45.59 | binaryc | thanks for the mention spammers, a gentle reminder for the long time lerkers to drop in and see what's up. |
| 04:46.06 | ghostyyy | people who buy botnets are lame, only people who make their own deserve any respect |
| 04:46.34 | RoyK | Cory Doctorow's book "Little Brother" has a good explaination of that |
| 04:46.35 | webbyz | ghostyyy: people actually buy those? wtfz |
| 04:46.41 | ghostyyy | well yeah |
| 04:46.51 | somiaj | though it is best to just ignore it as best as you can and stick on topic. No need to feed them. |
| 04:48.08 | RoyK | it only takes a single idiot who was sad about not getting help or upset somehow, and $5 or so to purchase a bit of botnet time |
| 04:48.18 | simpledat | awall: What do you mean? Should I worry? |
| 04:48.28 | simpledat | what is nm? |
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| 04:49.01 | RoyK | +r should be default for all serious channels on freenode (imho) |
| 04:49.45 | k_sze[work] | It's really not that hard to register on Freenode anyway. |
| 04:50.12 | somiaj | RoyK: #debian has decided to only use it if absolutely needed, for the most part is not needed, and there are plenty of users who come here who don't want freenode accounts. |
| 04:50.36 | somiaj | +r does restrict users who can use this support, and #debian would prefer not to do that. |
| 04:50.36 | k_sze[work] | "Why would anyone not want a Freenode account?" :P |
| 04:51.49 | simpledat | ppp is arecommend of nm nm ---» ppp ---» libpcap*... <- what does it mean? |
| 04:51.59 | somiaj | simpledat: aptitude why ppp |
| 04:52.18 | simpledat | bash: aptitude: command not found |
| 04:52.32 | somiaj | I think ppp is just installed by default during the install |
| 04:52.54 | somiaj | simpledat: ahh, you can install aptitude if you need. That command will just tell you what package depended no or recommneded ppp (As to why it might be there) |
| 04:52.56 | simpledat | and libpcap? |
| 04:53.21 | somiaj | most likely something on your system depends on it. aptitude why libpcap would give you some info about that. |
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| 04:53.36 | somiaj | but it seems you would have to install aptitude to use that command. |
| 04:53.37 | simpledat | E: Invalid operation why |
| 04:54.03 | simpledat | sorry |
| 04:54.14 | simpledat | https://paste.debian.net/999379/ |
| 04:54.20 | somiaj | its an aptitude feature, apt won't have this commaand |
| 04:54.25 | simpledat | Depends network-manager (>= 1.6) |
| 04:54.53 | somiaj | ppp was installed because network-manager recommended it |
| 04:54.59 | somiaj | and by default reocmmended packages will be installed |
| 04:55.14 | simpledat | c ppp Depends libpcap0.8 (>= 0.9.8) |
| 04:56.12 | somiaj | and ppp depends on libpcap, so you installed the mate desktop, which recommneded network-manager, which then recommended ppp, which then depended on libpcap0.8 |
| 04:56.19 | somiaj | which is why those packages are installed on your system. |
| 04:56.27 | simpledat | Oh thank you |
| 04:56.29 | simpledat | :/ |
| 04:56.33 | simpledat | I couldnt sleep |
| 04:56.46 | simpledat | :) |
| 04:57.01 | simpledat | So it means no worry for me? |
| 04:57.55 | simpledat | I was thinking someone was maybe trying to hack me |
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| 04:58.18 | chrono | damn tor flooder you can't flood +r channels |
| 04:59.07 | somiaj | simpledat: You can always track down logs and see when and why things were installed. But I think you are safe for now. |
| 05:00.11 | simpledat | somiaj: Do you know why network-manager recommended ppp and libpcap0.8? |
| 05:00.35 | simpledat | Is there any logical reason? |
| 05:02.34 | somiaj | ppp is a way to connect to a network, and network-manager is a collection of things to connect to networks. So it recommends this so you have the tools to connect to ppp networks with network manager |
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| 05:02.53 | somiaj | it is up to the package matainers to determine what packages are recommended and/or suggested |
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| 05:07.33 | simpledat | somiaj: What bout libpcap0.8? Why is this nessacary? |
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| 05:08.30 | somiaj | simpledat: do you know how libaries work? Most applications require shared libaries. ppp requires that libary, so in order to have ppp installed, you have to have that libary installed. |
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| 06:17.39 | Neomex_ | any idea why when i enter wifi password when installing debian and click continue it goes back and asks me about ESSID again? |
| 06:18.20 | Neomex_ | does that mean i entered something wrong or is it the issue with installer? |
| 06:18.49 | klys | neomex_, can you get a prompt? # iwlist wlan0 scan | less |
| 06:19.10 | Neomex_ | im using graphical installer, any way to bring up terminal? |
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| 06:20.48 | klys | probably change your vt with ctrl+alt+f3 or so |
| 06:23.25 | Neomex_ | iwlist: not found less: not founf |
| 06:23.35 | Neomex_ | wait, typo |
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| 06:24.13 | Neomex_ | not found iwlist now |
| 06:24.29 | klys | I think iwlist is in wireless-tools |
| 06:25.03 | Neomex_ | ctrl + alt + f3 got me in built-in shell |
| 06:25.09 | Neomex_ | busybox |
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| 06:25.32 | klys | if you can, try apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 06:26.01 | Neomex_ | no apt-get |
| 06:26.10 | Neomex_ | its at: -/bin/sh |
| 06:26.42 | klys | well I suppose you can get vack to the installer with ctrl+alt+Fn |
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| 06:27.12 | Neomex_ | what will be the fn on desktop keyboard? |
| 06:27.30 | klys | just try them all until it shows up |
| 06:28.43 | Neomex_ | somehow managed to reset pc |
| 06:28.56 | klys | oh. wierd. |
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| 06:29.08 | Neomex_ | do regular install maybe? not graphical |
| 06:29.15 | klys | you probably pushed ctrl+alt+del |
| 06:29.36 | klys | that's the reboot sequence |
| 06:31.03 | klys | also I think there is an option to install firmware from a .deb file |
| 06:31.24 | themill | Neomex_: does your wifi need firmware? |
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| 06:31.53 | Neomex_ | no clue, i got external adapter for this pc |
| 06:31.57 | Neomex_ | it detects it though |
| 06:31.58 | klys | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ |
| 06:32.24 | themill | Neomex_: detecting that the hardware is there and making it work are different things |
| 06:32.34 | Neomex_ | can i skip this step and install without internet? |
| 06:32.39 | themill | yes |
| 06:32.43 | Neomex_ | how? |
| 06:32.56 | Neomex_ | oh, got it |
| 06:32.57 | klys | you could install from the dvd set |
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| 06:33.26 | themill | Neomex_: what installer image are you using? |
| 06:34.00 | Neomex_ | debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 06:34.05 | Neomex_ | on usb |
| 06:34.42 | themill | So you could grab the firmware image and boot off that which would give you working wifi at install time, most likely. Or you can just complete the installation of that image |
| 06:34.47 | themill | !firmware image |
| 06:34.48 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
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| 07:34.18 | nix64bit | I need to quickly test a bar code printer on my debian box. have setup with cups with the ppd fiel from bixolon and i get a filter error when test printing |
| 07:34.53 | nix64bit | is there any quick fixes, i really dont have time, I have enough work |
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| 07:38.08 | zomaar | is dpkg-divert to /dev/null, basically, supported? |
| 07:38.40 | zomaar | I know it works on Debian 8, just gives dpkg warnings. |
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| 07:38.55 | zomaar | But I'm not sure if there is another way to do it. |
| 07:41.57 | zomaar | I mean I could mount a tmpfs in the dpkg-pre, divert the file to that location, and then umount it again ;-). |
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| 07:47.10 | zomaar | Another option is to use tmpfiles.d to just delete the file whenever it is found ;-). |
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| 07:48.51 | zomaar | Another option is to use a specific tmpfiles.d config file that you run in dpkg-post |
| 07:49.19 | zomaar | Now you have a global wipelist. |
| 07:49.44 | zomaar | But at that point you might just run a custom script... |
| 07:50.58 | k_sze[work] | How do I list the RAM slots that are used? |
| 07:52.22 | k_sze[work] | `dmidecode -t 17`? |
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| 08:46.46 | jomofcw | Hello ! |
| 08:47.36 | annadane | hi jomofcw |
| 08:50.16 | jomofcw | Morning annadane ^^. |
| 08:52.46 | jomofcw | I've got this script runing on my debian. It return a "failed: exit code 2", do you know how to make it works, please ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/34bda522d21fa3fd55f0d9a0b953f6f6 |
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| 08:56.38 | annadane | i don't know, but exit code 2 is missing keyword or command or permission problem, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/exitcodes.html#EXITCODESREF |
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| 09:39.47 | han-solo | guys |
| 09:39.57 | han-solo | i'm trying to connect to a VPN using pptp |
| 09:40.02 | han-solo | ( meh ) |
| 09:40.20 | han-solo | but, i cannot seem to get it to work |
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| 09:40.28 | han-solo | here's the log : http://sprunge.us/gIjN |
| 09:41.00 | han-solo | what could be the reason? |
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| 09:48.51 | tolecnal | han-solo: not really helpful to your error, but you really should use something else than PPTP. PPTP is not secure, and you should look into other alternatives such as IPSEC or OpenVPN. |
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| 09:51.38 | han-solo | yeah, i know. That's why i said "meh" :} |
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| 10:00.05 | zomaar | Is there any way to add a trigger for executing something on package installation of something other than creating a package for that? |
| 10:00.30 | zomaar | I mean you can add triggers in packages, but outside? |
| 10:00.43 | annadane | zomaar, guess it depends on what you mean by trigger and what you're trying to do specificallu |
| 10:00.56 | zomaar | any random script on a specific package installation |
| 10:01.04 | zomaar | or update, obviously. |
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| 10:03.22 | zomaar | I mean you could add DPkg::Post-Invoke and then check the logs etc. but... |
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| 10:10.40 | zomaar | So one way is to logtail /var/log/dpkg.log and check for status installed messages |
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| 10:11.27 | zomaar | But that takes you out of the loop and you now need a (systemd) watch service, or a daemon. |
| 10:11.38 | zomaar | or a cron job. |
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| 10:25.34 | Elirips | Hello. I need an alternative for SquirrelMail (I need php 7 and I dont want to mess with installing php 5 (where squirrelmail depends on) and 7 in parallel). Any hints? |
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| 10:28.28 | RoyK | Elirips: roundcube? |
| 10:29.35 | Elirips | RoyK: thanks, I'll look at it |
| 10:33.10 | cripcate | anyone got recommendations on where to install anaconda? Im setting up my work notebook at the moment. Only i will be using it (so no other user accounts). Should i install it in /root/? or in /opt/? or in hte home folder? Any best practice here? |
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| 11:06.50 | k-man | is there some way i can get a border around the whole of a terminal window? i have black terminals and when they stack on top of each other its hard to see where they overlap |
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| 11:07.34 | petn-randall | k-man: You could select a theme that has borders. |
| 11:07.48 | k-man | ah ok |
| 11:08.10 | petn-randall | k-man: Or use a single terminal window and use something like byobu, screen, or tmux, to switch between multiple windows. |
| 11:08.28 | petn-randall | k-man: Personally, I use the xfce4-terminal with multipe tabs. |
| 11:10.01 | k-man | thanks |
| 11:10.34 | k-man | BlackMATE is the only one that seems to put a border around the whole window |
| 11:10.37 | k-man | from what I can tell |
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| 11:19.42 | han-solo | hello, i cannot connect to the VPN using pptp |
| 11:20.39 | han-solo | here's the log : http://sprunge.us/LQDR |
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| 14:35.08 | SerkanDevel[m] | Is there a pypy3 package? |
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| 14:40.49 | jelly | ,v pypy3 |
| 14:40.50 | judd | No package named 'pypy3' was found in amd64. |
| 14:40.59 | jelly | not with that name, SerkanDevel[m] |
| 14:41.04 | ChrisH | ,v pypy |
| 14:41.05 | judd | Package: pypy on amd64 -- jessie: 2.4.0+dfsg-3; stretch: 5.6.0+dfsg-4; buster: 5.8.0+dfsg-2; sid: 5.9.0+dfsg-1 |
| 14:41.32 | jelly | that's the 2.7 compatible one |
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| 14:42.06 | SerkanDevel[m] | and the 3.X one? |
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| 14:42.35 | jelly | doesn't seem to exit |
| 14:42.39 | jelly | exist* |
| 14:43.06 | jelly | judd: wnpp pypy3 |
| 14:43.07 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/762346 in wnpp (open): «RFP: pypy3 -- fast alternative implementation of Python3 - PyPy interpreter»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2014-09-21; last modified: 2014-09-21. |
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| 14:45.15 | SerkanDevel[m] | That seems to be from 2014 |
| 14:45.20 | SerkanDevel[m] | how is it now? |
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| 14:52.58 | Trel | Does UFW allow hostnames for source/destination, and if so, does it just resolve them to an A record and continue from there? |
| 14:53.06 | Ericounet | Paquet : pypy (5.6.0+dfsg-4) |
| 14:53.25 | Ericounet | up to date pypy: 5.9 ... |
| 14:57.40 | jelly | SerkanDevel[m]: the bug is still open, so it means noone has packages it yet |
| 14:57.51 | jelly | packaged* |
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| 14:59.56 | rafalcpp | how to limit CPU% use of program (in addition to it being nice'd), so it will never use then say 10% of cpu? |
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| 15:13.53 | arora | rafalcpp: use nice command to set process to less favourable |
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| 15:19.29 | RoyK | arora: and ionice -c 3, perhaps |
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| 15:24.17 | rafalcpp | indeed arora RoyK though I wanted even stronger lowering |
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| 15:24.28 | rafalcpp | e.g. it should run for 0.1 second each 1 second or such |
| 15:25.03 | rafalcpp | it could be written as a wrapper that runs a proram and then sends to that child SIGTERM / SIGCONT in loop. it's not written and ready to use? |
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| 15:25.51 | arora | rafalcpp: https://github.com/opsengine/cpulimit |
| 15:26.09 | rafalcpp | so no standard tool? ok thanks |
| 15:26.35 | teraflops | define standard |
| 15:26.42 | rafalcpp | teraflops: in debian repo |
| 15:26.51 | teraflops | ,v cpulimit |
| 15:26.53 | judd | Package: cpulimit on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.7-1; jessie: 2.2-1; stretch: 2.4-1; buster: 2.5-1; sid: 2.5-1 |
| 15:26.58 | rafalcpp | ah cool |
| 15:27.44 | nvz | can anyone give me a hint on what to lookup to apply a conditional function in a spreadsheet (libreoffice) in this example I have min income values and corresponding tax rate percentages in a table and want to compute net wages from cells containing gross income that would be measured against this tax bracket table |
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| 15:29.26 | teraflops | I think cgroups is more standar since it's at kernel |
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| 15:32.28 | RoyK | rafalcpp: just let the scheduler and the i/o scheduler do their job, and it'll be fine. if the system isn't doing anything else at the time, it will run just as fast as without {io,}nice |
| 15:33.43 | RoyK | but a 'nice -n20 ionice -c 3 somecommand' is a nice way to be nice ;) |
| 15:33.49 | rafalcpp | RoyK: I know, in this case I want to smother it down even more, since this computer is running performance benchmarks; and don't want no background process any chance of distrupting it noticibly |
| 15:34.05 | RoyK | I see |
| 15:34.45 | rafalcpp | afair ionice for exampe does not fully account for all side affects, like if program causes writes into underlying RAID/LVM or causes SWAP accesses (unless they changed that), that was not perfect in linux always |
| 15:35.42 | mspo | it can help for sure but doesn't know if diskX is slow or whatever |
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| 15:59.04 | jomofcw | I've got this script runing on my debian. It return a "failed: exit code 2", do you know how to make it works, please ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/34bda522d21fa3fd55f0d9a0b953f6f6 |
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| 16:01.04 | mspo | jomofcw: run it with -x to see more details |
| 16:01.06 | petn-randall | jomofcw: Add " +x" to the shebang to get more details. |
| 16:02.04 | somiaj | looking at the script, it might be mailx whihc is failing, as there really isn't much else there. Maybe try to manually run the mailx command. |
| 16:02.05 | mspo | also fix "recepient" spelling please ;) |
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| 16:32.05 | fatalerrors | hi everybody |
| 16:32.25 | fatalerrors | i'm using kde plasma 4.14 on debian jessie |
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| 16:33.51 | fatalerrors | using amarok 2.8.0 i have a weird bug: when playing music, randomly and with no reason playback suddenly stops |
| 16:33.59 | fatalerrors | no error message of any kind |
| 16:34.26 | fatalerrors | playback works back when pressing play again |
| 16:34.39 | jelly | is it local music or a stream |
| 16:34.47 | fatalerrors | it's local music |
| 16:34.52 | jelly | weird |
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| 16:35.00 | fatalerrors | yes indead |
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| 16:35.17 | fatalerrors | and sometimes it plays 2 minutes then stops |
| 16:35.24 | fatalerrors | sometimes longer |
| 16:36.10 | fatalerrors | it happens whatever i'm doing, i did not find any reproductible thing that always turns playback off |
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| 16:38.36 | fatalerrors | started amarok in debug mode in a console |
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| 16:46.14 | fatalerrors | jelly: when playback stops i have several of these message: |
| 16:46.16 | fatalerrors | QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Phonon::Gstreamer::MediaObject::setState(State) |
| 16:46.31 | fatalerrors | looks like a phonon problem |
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| 16:49.56 | fatalerrors | i changed to phonon-vlc backends, i hopes it'll solve the problem |
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| 16:58.41 | RoyK | hm… seems bluetoothctl can open up for pairing, but I can't find a single option for setting a pin statically. I want to use this raspberry pi for a controller that allows anyone to pair with it given {s,}he has the pin - any ideas? |
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| 17:01.08 | yuriescl | Debian installation in "installing core packages..." is taking 10x more time than usual. I'm installing the root filesystem in a ext4 LVM particion setup on a RAID 5 12 TB. Is there any issue with that? |
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| 17:02.55 | rafalcpp | yokel: sohuld be fine in theory. Perhaps run hdparm -Tt on the devices, and on /dev/md... to see is it what's expected |
| 17:03.05 | rafalcpp | also hdarpm -i on devices, is it in highest udma mode there? |
| 17:03.47 | yuriescl | rafalcpp: was that for me? |
| 17:04.00 | rafalcpp | oh. yes, yuriescl |
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| 17:07.28 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 17:12.27 | awal1 | * is what I need for du recursive size? |
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| 17:13.07 | awal1 | example: du -sh * Documents |
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| 17:13.31 | teraflops | !kick raynold |
| 17:13.32 | dpkg | kicks raynold in the crotch. |
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| 17:15.13 | teraflops | awal1: du -sh folder/* |
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| 17:16.33 | awal1 | teraflops, I missed / yeah. |
| 17:16.52 | teraflops | ncdu is fine too |
| 17:16.55 | awal1 | cd folder du -sh * does the job too |
| 17:17.19 | awal1 | hm, you right, I forgot about it |
| 17:17.32 | awal1 | much better; nad I have it installed :P |
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| 17:17.43 | awal1 | nad/and |
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| 17:18.17 | awal1 | better no, but more user friendly |
| 17:18.35 | awal1 | and more options if i remember good |
| 17:19.32 | teraflops | du has a lot of options |
| 17:19.45 | teraflops | -x is a useful one |
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| 17:20.06 | jomofcw | petn-randall hello ! Sorry for the delay. Where shall I had " +x" ? I already add the line "set +x" as you can see, but it doesn't change anything :/. |
| 17:20.07 | teraflops | and it has --exclude |
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| 17:21.42 | jomofcw | mspo Ok for the spelling :p |
| 17:23.42 | jomofcw | somiaj you're right : I get this error processing the command manually : "mailx: invalid option -- 'r'" |
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| 17:26.27 | jomofcw | somiaj I get it working manually (removing the -r parameters, i receive the e-mail) but I still have the same code 2 error :/... |
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| 17:29.31 | jomofcw | I'll try new things tomorrow. Thanks for your help anyway : |
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| 17:42.43 | azarus | It might have |
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| 17:42.49 | azarus | sorry wrong channel |
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| 17:44.56 | Neomex | so ive installed debian without connection |
| 17:45.09 | Neomex | its scanning for wifi but doesnt find any |
| 17:45.17 | Neomex | though my laptop is next to it and has it |
| 17:45.22 | Neomex | driver? |
| 17:45.39 | _rubik | It sounds like an iwlwifi issue. |
| 17:45.43 | simpledat | I changed the Pointer speed to lowest in Mouse Preferences. But it does nothing. The Speed is the same. How can I lower the mouse speed? |
| 17:46.25 | _rubik | Neomex: check you wireless card and see if your iwlwifi firmware covers it. If not, you'll have to hope inwith an ethernet and build from source. |
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| 17:48.17 | Neomex | build what from source? |
| 17:48.53 | mtn | Neomex: first identify your wifi card/chip. then look at the relevant wiki article. |
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| 17:52.30 | simpledat | I changed the Pointer speed to lowest in Mouse Preferences. But it does nothing. The Speed is the same. How can I lower the mouse speed? |
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| 17:55.04 | soupeater | hi |
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| 17:56.32 | _rubik | Neomex: you're going to have to get your hands on iwlwifi that supports your network card.. Or at least thats what I'm assuming the problem is |
| 17:56.56 | Neomex | does debian have a package with those to dl? |
| 17:57.35 | soupeater | Neomex: yes it does |
| 17:57.50 | soupeater | Neomex: are you connected via ethernet at this point? |
| 17:58.07 | Neomex | no, ethernet card burned, i have external wifi adapter only |
| 17:58.26 | soupeater | Neomex: ok. which debian are u running? stretch+ |
| 17:58.27 | soupeater | ? |
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| 17:58.51 | Neomex | debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 17:59.16 | soupeater | one moment |
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| 18:00.04 | soupeater | Neomex: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list with root privileges and add this line to the end of that file: |
| 18:00.06 | soupeater | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free |
| 18:00.10 | mtn | iwlwifi is only for intel chips, so it won't help if not intel wifi |
| 18:00.12 | soupeater | then run |
| 18:00.14 | soupeater | sudo apt update |
| 18:00.16 | soupeater | and |
| 18:00.23 | soupeater | sudo apt install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 18:00.33 | soupeater | then run this command: |
| 18:00.35 | Neomex | dont i need package for that? |
| 18:00.35 | soupeater | modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi |
| 18:00.39 | mtn | Neomex: first identify your wifi card/chip. then look at the relevant wiki article. iwlwifi is only for intel |
| 18:00.40 | soupeater | references: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 18:00.56 | soupeater | oh |
| 18:01.07 | soupeater | do you have an intel wifi card? |
| 18:01.15 | mtn | no one knows ;) |
| 18:01.19 | teraflops | heh |
| 18:01.23 | Neomex | sec |
| 18:01.42 | soupeater | when you boot your computer, does it tell you you need firmware-iwlwifi? like after you unlock your disk encryption, just before lightDM starts? |
| 18:02.00 | jelly | fatalerrors: thast sounds reasonable. I've replaced amarok with clementine a while ago when it started looking a bit bloated and slow on library rescans |
| 18:02.10 | Neomex | scientific atlanta a cisco company is what it says on it, lol |
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| 18:02.37 | teraflops | ,v tomahawk |
| 18:02.38 | judd | No package named 'tomahawk' was found in amd64. |
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| 18:02.45 | teraflops | ;( |
| 18:02.46 | Neomex | didnt pay attention, reset? |
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| 18:03.04 | soupeater | Neomex: you probably need firmware-iwlwifi, so just follow the instructions i gave above |
| 18:03.15 | soupeater | the external wifi adapter works on your machine, right? i.e. you currently have internet access on it? |
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| 18:04.47 | Neomex | um, i dont have connection, it just lets me search for networks and doesnt find any |
| 18:05.16 | soupeater | Neomex: well, you need to get internet access on that machine somehow. do you have an ethernet cable available? |
| 18:05.36 | somiaj | you can also use a thumb drive to copy the firmware over |
| 18:05.43 | Neomex | ethernet card dead |
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| 18:05.56 | soupeater | yikes, then you need a usb stick to copy the firmware to your machine |
| 18:06.10 | Neomex | do you have link? |
| 18:06.47 | soupeater | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 18:06.50 | soupeater | you can download it from there |
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| 18:58.14 | simpledat | How do I remove files with spaces? rm File here.txt not working |
| 18:58.26 | greycat | put quotes around the filename |
| 18:58.26 | JustASlacker | rm "space file" |
| 18:58.42 | JustASlacker | or escape it rm space\ file |
| 18:58.44 | mspo | bash will use a \ , which also works |
| 18:58.51 | greycat | in most cases, either single quotes or double quotes will work. backslash-escaping the spaces also works. |
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| 18:59.08 | JustASlacker | scoobie snack for all |
| 19:01.04 | mspo | JustASlacker: now name a file "-this is a file" or "- this file" |
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| 19:01.23 | mspo | oops- simpledat ^ |
| 19:01.30 | greycat | rm -- "-foo"; or rm "./-foo" |
| 19:01.46 | mspo | indeed |
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| 19:07.38 | Cr4zko | Hoi |
| 19:07.40 | RoyK | greycat: rm -- -foo # also works |
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| 19:09.55 | Cr4zko | If the earth was a rotating globe a helicopter could just stay in the air and wait for it's location to come by |
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| 19:13.18 | jelly | Cr4zko: the air rotates as well. |
| 19:15.26 | Cr4zko | Uhhhh |
| 19:15.29 | Cr4zko | I don't know man |
| 19:15.31 | Cr4zko | I'm a genius |
| 19:15.44 | Cr4zko | If they gave me the GNU Mach kernel I would finish it in a day fam |
| 19:15.49 | Cr4zko | Don't doubt street knowledge |
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| 19:16.00 | greycat | If the air didn't rotate with the ground, there would be 1000 mile per hour winds at the equator. |
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| 19:17.13 | Cr4zko | I'm a genius |
| 19:17.38 | jelly | but anyway, go try ##chat, Cr4zko, and keep this frequency clear |
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| 19:21.30 | jelly | ,v ocserv |
| 19:21.31 | judd | Package: ocserv on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 0.11.6-1~bpo8+2; stretch: 0.11.6-2; buster: 0.11.9-1+b1; sid: 0.11.9-1+b1 |
| 19:21.42 | jelly | ,checkbackport ocserv |
| 19:21.46 | judd | Backporting package ocserv in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch, virtual. |
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| 19:43.03 | hagabaka | hi, I'm running debian in a virtualbox guest. When I build the guest additions, it says "/lib/modules/4.14.0-1-amd64/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory" Is that provided by a package? I already installed linux-headers-4.14.0-1-amd64 |
| 19:43.37 | petn-randall | hagabaka: Where did you get kernel 4.14 from? |
| 19:43.42 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 19:43.43 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-trunk-686-pae (4.14-1~exp1); sid: 4.14.0-1-686-pae (4.14.2-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.13-1); stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686 (4.9.51-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 19:43.44 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
| 19:44.33 | hagabaka | from apt |
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| 19:47.11 | petn-randall | hagabaka: Which release are you running? |
| 19:47.29 | hagabaka | I think sid |
| 19:47.50 | petn-randall | hagabaka: Can you share the output of 'apt-cache policy' on https://paste.debian.net with us? |
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| 19:48.38 | baryluk | what version of virtual box? 4.14 is only supported in most recent version. also is that version from ubuntu or one from oracle? |
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| 19:49.20 | hagabaka | petn-randall: apt-cache policy http://paste.debian.net/999546 |
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| 19:50.23 | hagabaka | baryluk: virtualbox 5.1.30 r118389, and it's from oracle. The host is a Window machine |
| 19:50.54 | petn-randall | hagabaka: That is an ... jessie/stretch/sid mix? |
| 19:50.56 | petn-randall | !frankendebian |
| 19:50.57 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 19:51.32 | petn-randall | hagabaka: You might want to do a clean upgrade to sid and remove the old releases from your sources.list. |
| 19:52.10 | hagabaka | remove all but sid? |
| 19:53.05 | baryluk | hagabaka: Please update to 5.2.2 and retry |
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| 19:53.55 | baryluk | baryluk: Or ignore, if this is just for testing. guest additions are optional. but are helpful in long run for things like sharing files and copy pasting things between host and guest. otherwise optional. |
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| 20:15.26 | zerocool | anyone where smart about postfix |
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| 20:17.06 | zerocool | i have an email server in a network where 25 out is understandibly blocked for spam prevention, i have a server outside of the network, wondering if I could use the outside server as a relay so that i can connect to it, and it could connect to other smtp servers |
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| 20:17.35 | zerocool | specifically for outbound connections |
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| 20:18.10 | greycat | #postfix may be better suited to answer this |
| 20:18.21 | zerocool | yeah i was just thinking that |
| 20:18.24 | zerocool | thanks greycat |
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| 20:49.33 | dff | can someone recommend a tool to track the amount of bandwidth a specific process is using over time? |
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| 20:49.49 | dff | vnstat seems to be system wide only |
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| 20:53.52 | somiaj | dff: is a process one that uses a single port or multiple ports? |
| 20:54.13 | dff | single |
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| 20:54.39 | somiaj | you should be able to use vnstat I would think to see bandwidth ussage on a single port, which should only be thte application that has it open |
| 20:54.40 | dff | somiaj for highlight :) |
| 20:54.50 | dff | ah |
| 20:54.56 | somiaj | though this works more for server apps, clients seem to connect to a single port, but will use different ports to connect |
| 20:54.58 | dff | yeah that would work |
| 20:55.21 | dff | it's a server process |
| 20:55.28 | dff | and the firewall wont let it use anything else |
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| 20:55.57 | dff | thanks somiaj |
| 20:56.05 | somiaj | but my limited experience is you can monintor bandwith on a single port, but per application is not something I have seen much of |
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| 20:57.34 | teraflops | dff: myabe lartc |
| 20:57.37 | teraflops | maybe^ |
| 20:57.48 | dff | somiaj: do you query the database to get the port? |
| 20:58.06 | teraflops | not easy though |
| 20:58.12 | somiaj | dff: usually services run on a fixed port, like ssh is 22, http is 80, etc |
| 20:58.18 | dff | vnstat --help |
| 20:58.23 | dff | doesnt have options for ports |
| 20:58.35 | somiaj | dff: but you can use netstat to determine what port different apps are listening on |
| 20:58.58 | somiaj | dff: I use to use iptraf, but this more a curses ui thing you can use to watch with |
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| 20:59.00 | dff | yes i know, but how do i extract the amount of data coming from that single port |
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| 20:59.28 | somiaj | or try teraflops advise, good thimgs come from them. |
| 20:59.48 | teraflops | dff: you want something like https://github.com/firehol/netdata/wiki/Monitor-application-bandwidth-with-Linux-QoS |
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| 21:01.02 | dff | i need a console options, sorry didnt mention that |
| 21:01.17 | somiaj | dff: iptraf is a curses console program |
| 21:01.18 | teraflops | the idea is there |
| 21:01.43 | teraflops | yep iptraf shows per process bandwidth |
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| 21:02.05 | somiaj | yea seems the main suggestion is use the QoS feature of the linux kernel, not nesicarally use that software. |
| 21:02.22 | dff | http://iptraf.seul.org/shots/iptraf-tcpudp.gif |
| 21:02.23 | dff | yay |
| 21:03.12 | teraflops | I used to use it like 12 years ago :P |
| 21:03.21 | teraflops | dang |
| 21:03.24 | dff | now what do you use |
| 21:03.40 | teraflops | solarwinds |
| 21:03.42 | teraflops | :D |
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| 21:03.57 | dff | actually, i dont mind the statics being show via htto |
| 21:03.59 | r3 | are there any caveats or "sneaky issues" involved with using 'dd' to backup/image and restore MicroSD cards? I've not used that tool a bunch and wanted to be sure the process is as solid and error-free as possible. |
| 21:03.59 | dff | http* |
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| 21:04.47 | r3 | I am aware that one must be careful to get the 'if=' and 'of=' correct or face a world of pain - and since it is over USB, there are the usual USB issues to watch out fore... |
| 21:04.48 | somiaj | r3: dd will copy the whole image of the drive, such as partition table, and size. If you have different sized cards you want to copy it to, it may not be the best tool |
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| 21:05.14 | r3 | somiaj: aye, I am using the same-sized cards, I made sure of that, so that's not an issue |
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| 21:05.18 | dff | conv=sync,noerror? |
| 21:05.27 | somiaj | r3: But it might be you want to backup the actual data, in which case having another file system to copy it to maybe more useful than the full image. |
| 21:05.39 | r3 | dff, I've read about that option and have used it once to grab data off of a failing MicroSD card |
| 21:06.07 | r3 | somiaj: that's true - I was wondering if there was a way to mount the resultant images |
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| 21:06.50 | somiaj | r3: a lot may depend on your use case, it maybe that backing up the files with rsync maybe more what you need than a full image. Images are usually more restirctive to use than backup of the files. |
| 21:06.56 | dff | if your host can read the filesystem shoudnt be a problem |
| 21:08.02 | r3 | there isn't any changing data on these cards, so really having a consistent image is more useful to me, but I see your point and thank you :) |
| 21:09.24 | somiaj | r3: note cp can usually be used in place of dd, for example cp /dev/sdc foo.img, could work too. dd has more powerful options/control, but cp has nice defaults and could work in lots of cases. |
| 21:09.33 | r3 | or, rather, I should say, that the important data is well sent off the system to a NAS, but I understand. I've used rsync more than dd and just wanted to be sure I understood the tool |
| 21:10.08 | r3 | I never think of using cp for devices, but you're right |
| 21:10.28 | somiaj | for some reason people over look that cp can also copy images, because everything is basically a file in *nix |
| 21:10.47 | somiaj | when they think images, dd comes to mind, and cp is only for files (but dosn't have to be) |
| 21:10.53 | teraflops | cat should work too |
| 21:11.12 | dTal | and straight shell redirecton |
| 21:11.30 | r3 | nods at 'everything is a file' |
| 21:11.34 | r3 | so true |
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| 21:12.33 | dTal | insofar as it's true (which is not especially) it's because *nix redefines the word file to mean "anything" |
| 21:12.59 | dTal | device files behave nothing like "files" as named bags of bits |
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| 21:13.09 | teraflops | look at plan9 |
| 21:13.35 | teraflops | they did awesome things that right now sounds like magic |
| 21:14.38 | somiaj | Yea, the linux kernel hides the details and allows the user to access data as if it were a file, which was what I mean by 'basically a file' |
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| 21:16.21 | dTal | if you ask a layperson to list the things one can do with files, you'll get stuff like "move","rename","copy","open" etc |
| 21:16.30 | dTal | none of which you can do with a device file |
| 21:17.03 | dTal | all you're really guaranteed to be able to do is write data sequentially, and read it sequentially |
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| 21:17.37 | dTal | a more accurate statement is "many things are file descriptors" but that's not so pithy |
| 21:17.40 | mspo | cp doesn't work on /dev? |
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| 21:18.23 | mspo | I think it does |
| 21:18.45 | dTal | without trying it, I'm pretty sure if I copy /dev/audio to /dev/audio2 I don't get a second interface to my soundcard |
| 21:18.53 | dTal | I get a useless device node unconnected to anything |
| 21:18.58 | dTal | same if I rename it |
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| 21:19.20 | dTal | it's extremely unlike a file |
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| 21:19.24 | mspo | dTal: try it with cp -p |
| 21:19.30 | mspo | I think it might work |
| 21:20.52 | HeXiLeD | may have just hit a bug. (cups/hplip) The printer does not print .odt files. lp file.odt but does print everything else. Is this bug fixed? |
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| 21:21.38 | dTal | mspo: ah, this raises the issue of the correct semantics |
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| 21:21.56 | dTal | it copies the "contents" |
| 21:22.09 | mspo | I get the same major/minor, at least |
| 21:22.13 | mspo | it *looks* right |
| 21:22.38 | dTal | so if I want to make a copy of /dev/urandom, cp -p /dev/urandom /dev/urandom2 results in a random file of infinite size |
| 21:22.48 | mspo | really? |
| 21:22.53 | dTal | rather than a copy of the thing that generates random numbers |
| 21:23.08 | dTal | it does for me |
| 21:23.20 | mspo | hey cool :) |
| 21:23.28 | r3 | can anyone think of a reason why I've a different size file after the following process? I've used 'dd' to create an image from an older SD card, then written that image to a new SD card, then (to check) used 'dd' to create another image file. The resultant two image files are of different sizes. Is it because the new SD card isn't *exactly* the same as the old? (even though they both are |
| 21:23.29 | r3 | the same manufacturer, and both claim to be 8GB) |
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| 21:24.23 | mspo | so /dev/urandom is different from actual device entries I think |
| 21:24.43 | r3 | (the first image file is 7892631552, the second 7948206080) |
| 21:24.51 | mspo | dTal: I'm not disagreeing that there are special files that don't act like files |
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| 21:58.55 | Debianpurgatory | Hall! I've been using stretch for about a year in a configuration where I would run start from separate ttys logged in as separate users. Today this began failing. I don't know what triggered it. |
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| 21:59.27 | Debianpurgatory | It may have been triggered by installing libpam-yubico. |
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| 21:59.58 | Netwolf | nnnnnnnn |
| 22:00.08 | Debianpurgatory | I don't have any idea how those could be connected and I apt-get purged that package. |
| 22:00.14 | Debianpurgatory | Any advice? |
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| 22:09.39 | pi_lastebill | hi, I got 3 rasberries running rasbian, and for some reason I can't ssh into any of them anymore. I've tried disabling some firewall settings on my router, but to no avail |
| 22:09.46 | pi_lastebill | anyone got any pointers+ |
| 22:09.48 | pi_lastebill | ? |
| 22:09.52 | greycat | !raspbian |
| 22:09.52 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 22:10.06 | pi_lastebill | ok |
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| 22:15.19 | r3 | I guess it's because - as I look in dmesg - the new SD card is larger by 53MiB than the old one. So it makes sense that the resultant image would be larger. |
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| 23:21.28 | extor | I take it a "kernel panic not syncing fatal exception in interrupt" inside of a virtual machine is not really supported by debian but rather by vmware; or perhaps it's a grey area? |
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| 23:25.52 | jhutchins | extor: What OS is running on the VM? |
| 23:26.28 | extor | debian off course |
| 23:27.43 | jhutchins | extor: The mere fact of a kernel panic doesn't tell us anything, what was it doing when it crashed? |
| 23:28.07 | extor | jhutchins, was running the dante server package |
| 23:28.33 | extor | I do believe connecting to one of the socks IPs triggered the kernel panic |
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| 23:30.36 | PrincessZelda | Are there other media centers like KODI in the the repositories? |
| 23:31.04 | bazhang | ,v mpd |
| 23:31.05 | judd | Package: mpd on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.16.7-2+b1; wheezy-backports: 0.17.6-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.19.1-1.1; jessie-backports: 0.19.12-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.19.21-1; buster: 0.20.11-1; sid: 0.20.11-1+b1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.19.9-dmo2; stretch-multimedia: 1:0.19.21-dmo4; buster-multimedia: 1:0.20.12-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.20.12-dmo1 |
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