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| 00:14.29 | paul-- | hello |
| 00:14.53 | bazhang | hi |
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| 00:20.11 | Keitaro | hello guys on a usb where i install a live linux, is it possible to copy paste some file from windows on the usb key next to the live linux folder ? |
| 00:20.26 | Keitaro | or it is dangerous and we should do an other partition for that ? |
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| 00:24.22 | Lady_Aleena | I have a 64-bit processor, but Firefox can't keep up with me. |
| 00:26.25 | extor | If I want a kernel panic to reboot my box rather than freeze it shut, can I add somehing to the grub config or to /proc somewhere? |
| 00:26.50 | bazhang | extor, want? |
| 00:27.16 | extor | Yes I do want. Why else would I ask? |
| 00:27.33 | bazhang | why would you want that |
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| 00:27.53 | extor | So I dont have to manually reboot my VM every panic |
| 00:28.08 | bazhang | oh, a vm |
| 00:28.43 | extor | On another note in centos you have /etc/rc.local which has startup commands but that file is missing in debian. |
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| 00:47.21 | fellipe | hi all. I am trying to start a official debian image on debian 8.9 jessie host , but I am getting "cgroup path for memory not found". How to solve this? I've already tried to google it on docker forums, but no success. At least, what this error means? |
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| 01:53.21 | johnjay | is there any better downloader than wget for unstable internet? |
| 01:54.01 | somiaj | so you want something that will resume download from http? |
| 01:54.26 | johnjay | yes i tried wget and my internet is so bad it froze |
| 01:54.30 | johnjay | i managed to resume with -c though |
| 01:54.48 | somiaj | curl says it supports file transfer resume. |
| 01:54.53 | johnjay | I did unlimited retries with interval 60 seconds between |
| 01:55.03 | johnjay | i'm apt getting something called aria2, not sure what it is |
| 01:55.14 | somiaj | curl is a wget alternative |
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| 01:55.24 | dTal | johnjay: for what it's worth you can tell wget to keep trying |
| 01:55.36 | johnjay | dTal: that doesn't matter if it's frozen |
| 01:56.13 | somiaj | curl -C - http://whatever says it will try to resume the download |
| 01:56.39 | dTal | johnjay: ah, supposing you set a timeout |
| 01:56.42 | johnjay | i told it --tries 0 --wait 60 |
| 01:57.09 | johnjay | yeah it was just completely non-responsive. dunno if that's a bug or a problem with my system or what |
| 01:57.54 | dTal | something like --retry-connrefused --timeout=5 |
| 01:58.12 | dTal | I don't know if that would work |
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| 01:59.02 | johnjay | oh i didn't see that option dTal |
| 01:59.37 | johnjay | but if that was the problem wouldn't wget stop or something? |
| 01:59.45 | johnjay | instead of just saying download rate is x kb/s frozen? |
| 01:59.59 | johnjay | i'm not even sure it was a crash or not |
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| 04:11.48 | nihilstprincess | hi |
| 04:12.02 | nihilstprincess | I have kali running on an older mac |
| 04:12.17 | dvs | !kali |
| 04:12.17 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 04:12.19 | nihilstprincess | and for some reason its running a lot slower than my old mac os, leopard |
| 04:12.34 | nihilstprincess | ok, will do |
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| 04:20.26 | shawn1 | what is the best way to get firefox 57 on debian jessie |
| 04:20.32 | shawn1 | !mozilla.debian.net |
| 04:20.32 | dpkg | For stable releases, newer versions of Firefox, Icedove and Iceape can be found at http://mozilla.debian.net/ ; you will want the "esr52" repository. For users of testing and unstable, updated packages are normally in <experimental>; only Extended Support Release (ESR) versions are suitable for release in <stable> so only those versions can be uploaded to unstable. As of v52, only the ESR version can be compiled for Jessie. |
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| 04:23.53 | shawn1 | I think the best wat is to manually install it in /opt and make a .desktop for it |
| 04:25.25 | shawn1 | apt pinning to install it from sid and keep sid in my source.list and hopefully it wont implode one day? |
| 04:26.34 | somiaj | debian does not have rust in it, so newer versions of firefox cannot be compiled in debian. This may dely newer versions for some time. |
| 04:26.48 | somiaj | If you don't want to use the esr release, download the precompiled binary from mozilla and run it in $HOME or /opt |
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| 04:28.20 | shawn1 | somiaj: ok thanks |
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| 05:17.53 | zRecursive | Are there any precompiled binary emacs which doesnot use Gtk ? |
| 05:19.21 | somiaj | what do you mean? Do you not want the gtk dependence, because emacs can be used in a console just fine. |
| 05:20.50 | somiaj | there is emacs-nox which contains no X depndence. |
| 05:20.58 | zRecursive | somiaj: I want emacs without Gtk dependence |
| 05:21.53 | zRecursive | running in X |
| 05:21.54 | somiaj | there is also emacs-lucid if you want a different widget set than gtk and still use xemacs |
| 05:22.04 | somiaj | well run it in a termainal, that works fine (: |
| 05:22.31 | zRecursive | You mean emacs25-nox ? |
| 05:22.45 | somiaj | well emacs-nox is a metapackage that will point to the current version. |
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| 05:22.56 | somiaj | here on stretch it would be emacs24-nox |
| 05:23.10 | somiaj | but having emacs-nox might be nice for upgrades |
| 05:23.19 | zRecursive | oh, i just install emacs25-nox |
| 05:23.34 | somiaj | emacs-nox would have just installed that, so either works |
| 05:23.50 | somiaj | but if you want a graphical widiget set, the lucid one might be yoru liking, or just use emacs inside your terminal. |
| 05:23.52 | zRecursive | ok,i see |
| 05:24.14 | somiaj | but those are the only options I see in stretch, nox (no-X), gtk, or lucid widget sets |
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| 05:24.56 | zRecursive | somiaj: can i install both emacs-nox and emacs-lucid together? |
| 05:25.29 | somiaj | no |
| 05:25.36 | zRecursive | ok, thx |
| 05:25.46 | somiaj | but if you have emacs-lucid you can run both xemacs with the lucid widiget set and emacs in a termail |
| 05:26.03 | somiaj | so having emacs-lucid is kinda like having both |
| 05:26.07 | zRecursive | oh, lucid can run in terminal ? |
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| 05:26.52 | somiaj | well it would be just like emacs-nox. But emacs-nox doens't give you the option to run xemacs (I belive that is what it is called -- I don't use emacs myself) |
| 05:27.26 | somiaj | no wrong there, xemacs is another widge set for emacs, but doesn't appear to have been updated since emacs21 |
| 05:27.55 | zRecursive | i will try emacs-lucid |
| 05:28.37 | somiaj | and it appears that emacs25 is in stretch, didn't realize both were there. |
| 05:29.09 | zRecursive | `apt-cache search emacs` will find it |
| 05:29.09 | somiaj | zRecursive: looks like the package provides two binaries, emacs and emacs-lucid. I assume the first is the standard console version and the other will use the lucid widget set in x |
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| 05:55.23 | Neomex | apt-get asks me for media/cdrom/ |
| 05:55.27 | Neomex | can i change it to usb? |
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| 06:00.05 | awal1 | Neomex, you don't have access to internet? |
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| 06:00.18 | Neomex | nop |
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| 06:06.01 | Neomex | how do i figure out which firmware i need for external wifi adapter? |
| 06:06.30 | awal1 | Neomex, check https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/04/msg01052.html and bug #745381 for your usb |
| 06:06.31 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/745381 in apt,apt-setup (open): «Unable to retrieve packages from USB flash drive in console mode»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-04-21; last modified: 2015-05-02. |
| 06:07.03 | awal1 | Neomex, which DE? |
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| 06:08.00 | Neomex | 9.2.1 x64 |
| 06:08.35 | awal1 | Neomex, that is release nº; I was refering if gnome, kde.... but ok, try removing cd line in sources.list |
| 06:08.42 | awal1 | and update |
| 06:08.46 | awal1 | see what happens |
| 06:08.56 | Neomex | gnome |
| 06:08.57 | awal1 | update having usb inserted |
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| 06:09.14 | awal1 | remove cd line or just comment it |
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| 06:13.22 | ilmostro | Trying to install debian-testing as Libvirt Guest VM, using graphical installation --> Automatic paritioning --> LVM --> "/home" on separate partition. The GUI is stuck for 30min+ on "Guided Partitioning: Computing the new partitions...". |
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| 06:14.05 | ilmostro | I'm not sure if this is a known issue or if it's expected to take an inordinate amount of time to "compute" partitioning scheme? |
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| 06:14.48 | Neomex | idk but it took me 10+ hours to wipe old data |
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| 06:15.35 | ilmostro | Neomex: that's quite a different scenario, especially if/when taking additional variables into account; e.g. method of "wiping" data |
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| 06:16.13 | awal1 | ilmostro, testing installer is in beta |
| 06:16.17 | awal1 | !testing installer |
| 06:16.18 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 06:18.26 | ilmostro | In case I don't get to it, as I'm testing debian within a Guest VM, might be worth noting this bug if it hasn't been already filed. Also, might be a bit misleading having a DVD image 3.7G in size just to be able to test the installer :-/ |
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| 06:33.44 | awal1 | Neomex, check if gnome software center reads it |
| 06:34.56 | awal1 | I never used usb for install, no clue; and several years now without reinstalling |
| 06:35.11 | awal1 | I almost forgot how the install process is |
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| 06:44.39 | Neomex | can i do that from terminal to get more info? |
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| 08:36.59 | pagios | hello, i have my gnome notification freezing i cant close it and dont want to restart, how can i refresh? https://i.imgur.com/N2YHY9d.png |
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| 08:38.38 | well_laid_lawn | pagios: you can use xkill from a terminal and see if that ends it |
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| 08:39.05 | pagios | well_laid_lawn, what is the name of the notification |
| 08:39.55 | well_laid_lawn | pagios: xkill will change the cursor - then you click the app you want dead |
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| 08:41.41 | pagios | well_laid_lawn, thanks man it works |
| 08:41.45 | pagios | nice command xkill ! |
| 08:41.47 | pagios | :) |
| 08:42.02 | aaap | may i know anyone compare debian to fedora before? |
| 08:42.05 | well_laid_lawn | cheers |
| 08:42.11 | pagios | well_laid_lawn, i have another issue, when running virtualbox vm in fullscreen mode the host machine freezes |
| 08:42.16 | pagios | i cant click for example |
| 08:42.24 | pagios | if i put the vm in non full mode it works fine |
| 08:43.05 | well_laid_lawn | pagios: see if someone in #vbox knows about that |
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| 08:55.13 | benpro | bientôt je vais écrire en /amsg tiens |
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| 09:07.44 | fsiWeb3d96 | hello |
| 09:08.04 | fsiWeb3d96 | anyone here? |
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| 09:08.39 | bazhang | yes |
| 09:08.45 | fsiWeb3d96 | have a question |
| 09:08.55 | bazhang | ask away |
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| 09:09.45 | fsiWeb3d96 | i wanna download debian 9.2.1 version to put it on a usb stick and run it live for now, trying to find a link to download, https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/ here are 3 different images listed, which one should i take? |
| 09:10.18 | fsiWeb3d96 | and do i have to download other files listed as well? |
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| 09:11.45 | fsiWeb3d96 | 2nd question, how fatal is drdy err? |
| 09:11.53 | fsiWeb3d96 | is there any chance i save my hdd? |
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| 09:12.44 | nix64bit | I am trying a new install and keep getting disabled by bios error even though I have disables secure boot in bios |
| 09:12.56 | n4dir | The link you provided doesn't look as if it would contain debian-live at all (might well be it's too early in the morning and i am confused). Try this: https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
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| 09:13.20 | n4dir | fsiWeb3d96: ^^ |
| 09:13.53 | fsiWeb3d96 | but here is 9.2.0. version :/ |
| 09:14.05 | nix64bit | looks like debian is being blocked without an option to disable |
| 09:14.09 | fsiWeb3d96 | i'd like a stable one coz seems im gonna have to install it on an external hdd as well |
| 09:14.29 | nix64bit | anyone know of a way round this? |
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| 09:15.32 | n4dir | fsiWeb3d96: if you want to install, download the installation iso, if you want live, download the live iso. If you want to do both, you will still have to download both |
| 09:15.40 | fsiWeb3d96 | really? |
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| 09:15.50 | fsiWeb3d96 | it doesnt work anymore to install it over live version? |
| 09:16.12 | n4dir | the live installer is known to have got several problems. It is not recommended |
| 09:17.04 | fsiWeb3d96 | oh ok, didnt know that. by me worked always fine ^^ |
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| 09:17.23 | fsiWeb3d96 | anybody knows something about my hdd error? drdy err? |
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| 09:45.31 | jomofcw | Hello ! |
| 09:45.37 | jomofcw | I'm back with the same problem :/. |
| 09:46.08 | jomofcw | Looking at this GIST : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5aae8936b358f8433abb4b3c7653f609 can you tell me why it return me a fail in code 2, according to you, please ? |
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| 10:03.44 | dff | anyone here familiar with nethogs? I'm observing some weird behavior there, a process owned by root has an open connection to an outside IP that i cant find in netstat |
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| 10:04.08 | dff | also, where can i verify the gpg key for debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org |
| 10:04.32 | dff | and retrieve for that matter |
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| 10:10.38 | pagios | hello, i have a network printer, e-STUDIO2000AC when i print to it it always prints in landscape mode, how can i fix this? problem is only on linux |
| 10:12.30 | fiet | pagios: Go to printers, settings and set default orientation. |
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| 10:13.48 | pagios | fiet, i did it doesnt work |
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| 10:16.01 | fiet | pagios: What happens when you use lpr to print? And specify orientation on cli? |
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| 10:20.16 | pagios | fiet, how can i use lpr |
| 10:20.18 | pagios | commandline |
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| 10:29.36 | darxmurf | how should I encode my text when I generate a txt file containing MYSQL inserts with accents like éà ö ? |
| 10:29.56 | xand | depends on the collation of the database |
| 10:30.04 | darxmurf | Then when I launch my SELECT from my shell client, I can list my entries well formated but PHP mess up the situation |
| 10:30.20 | darxmurf | and in the other side, I have wrongly displayed entries in the shell but ok with php |
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| 10:31.12 | darxmurf | it's an endless story, I had this issue 10 years ago ^^ |
| 10:31.28 | darxmurf | but it was not from a shell |
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| 10:31.49 | jelly | darxmurf: it's important that your mysql client settings match the encoding of insert lines, and that DDL (table definitions) can actually contain those characters |
| 10:32.50 | darxmurf | everything is UTF8 |
| 10:32.59 | darxmurf | I tried to force also --default_character_set utf8 in my request |
| 10:33.11 | darxmurf | hmm lunch time, I'll check that after |
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| 10:36.56 | jomofcw | Looking at this GIST (all details in) : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5aae8936b358f8433abb4b3c7653f609 can you tell me why it return me a fail in code 2, according to you, please ? |
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| 10:38.06 | aaap | #j #fedora |
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| 10:43.24 | JustASlacker | its better to use [[ |
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| 10:44.42 | JustASlacker | jomofcw: maybe a PATH issue? |
| 10:45.29 | JustASlacker | which mailx |
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| 10:46.02 | JustASlacker | try setting full path for mailx |
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| 10:53.04 | fiet | pagios: lpr and man lpr |
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| 10:55.37 | fiet | pagios: fortune | lpr -o portrait -o fit-to-page |
| 10:56.03 | jomofcw | JustASlacker hello ! Can it be a path issue whereas I can exec the command manualy ? |
| 10:56.07 | fiet | pagios: https://www.cups.org/doc/options.html |
| 10:56.24 | JustASlacker | jomofcw: yes |
| 10:56.34 | JustASlacker | jomofcw: its not executed by you, no? |
| 10:56.45 | JustASlacker | and PATH is defined per user |
| 10:56.52 | pagios | fiet, its a network printer and it has an access code |
| 10:57.08 | JustASlacker | same problem happens in cron |
| 10:57.22 | pagios | fiet, the printer is configured in the system settings though with the code |
| 10:57.24 | pagios | but not command line |
| 10:57.49 | JustASlacker | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2388087/how-to-get-cron-to-call-in-the-correct-paths |
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| 10:58.08 | no_gravity | Hi guys! What is "Linux Firmware"? I see it's updated via the update manager but I have no idea what it is. |
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| 10:59.07 | azarus | It's the firmware for your hardware, no_gravity |
| 10:59.15 | pagios | fiet, lpr: Error - no default destination available. |
| 10:59.18 | fiet | pagios: Not sure how that works, but if you can poass it as an option you can add it with -o |
| 10:59.29 | no_gravity | azarus: I would have thought the hardware is talked to via the drivers? |
| 10:59.47 | azarus | no_gravity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmware |
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| 11:00.00 | azarus | drivers != firmware |
| 11:00.15 | no_gravity | azarus: I read that. But then I was thinking "What's the difference to the drivers?" so I came here to IRC. |
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| 11:00.29 | azarus | drivers are higher level than firmware |
| 11:01.13 | azarus | My hardware doesn't need the firmware package, but I don't know about your hardware, no_gravity |
| 11:01.34 | azarus | and if i recall correctly you refuse pasting anything on the web so I can't tell you if you need it or not |
| 11:01.57 | no_gravity | Strange. I would have thought if some piece of hardware needs software then that software is called a driver. |
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| 11:02.14 | azarus | Some hardware needs both |
| 11:02.31 | azarus | Namely some wifi/bluetooth/whatever hardware |
| 11:03.11 | no_gravity | I don't get what the difference between firmware and drivers is. |
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| 11:03.17 | azarus | drivers are higher level than firmware |
| 11:03.38 | no_gravity | What does that mean? |
| 11:03.39 | azarus | firmware = low level device control |
| 11:03.48 | azarus | drivers = operating system device control |
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| 11:05.32 | azarus | no_gravity: this explains it pretty well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware |
| 11:06.29 | no_gravity | azarus: I read that. It says that firmware is what runs on the device. I wonder if that holds true for the "linux firmware" that is updated by the update manager. |
| 11:06.39 | azarus | it does |
| 11:06.45 | azarus | it updates the firmware files |
| 11:07.24 | no_gravity | They will be flashed to some hardware devices? |
| 11:07.34 | azarus | ... I see you don't really understand. |
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| 11:07.50 | azarus | Read this paragraph: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware#How_is_Firmware_Used.3F |
| 11:08.12 | azarus | There is no flashing going on |
| 11:08.45 | pagios | fiet, it prints with correct orientation now but the text is small, margins are big |
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| 11:09.15 | no_gravity | azarus: That paragraph also states that it is software that runs on a device. I wonder what software that it. I mean which devices get their software sent over from Linux. |
| 11:09.53 | azarus | no_gravity: no devices get their software "sent" over from linux |
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| 11:10.07 | azarus | The operating system just loads firmware files. |
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| 11:10.32 | no_gravity | azarus: It's stated in the paragraph you just linked to. |
| 11:10.54 | no_gravity | "The kernel reads the firmware data from the special file it created and hands the data to the driver" |
| 11:11.18 | azarus | The "device" is a virtual device created in kernel space |
| 11:11.27 | azarus | Like /dev/mouse |
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| 11:11.44 | azarus | Your real physical devices are not affected by this firmware update |
| 11:11.52 | azarus | There is no flashing going on |
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| 11:13.11 | fiet | pagios: Good, so it's just a setting. With lpr you can set everything with -o, check the url I gave earlier for details. Make sure it corresponds with the settings you have in your /etc/cups/printers.conf |
| 11:13.17 | ForceRecon | hello, when I try to right click on menu in debian stretch and configure I get an error |
| 11:13.22 | ForceRecon | is this known? |
| 11:13.39 | ForceRecon | execution of xlet-settings |
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| 11:15.51 | ForceRecon | brb.. gonna reboot.. something weird happened here |
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| 11:26.34 | ForceRecon | wow.. that was almost a disaster |
| 11:27.20 | ForceRecon | if you get that error after an update you need to get to command line then sudo apt-get install cinnamon-screensaver, if it says it is already the latest then you need to sudo apt-get install cinnamon |
| 11:27.33 | ForceRecon | then get back to gui screen and you should be able to log back in |
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| 11:34.04 | pagios | fiet, doesnt owrk |
| 11:34.05 | petn-randall | ForceRecon: Sounds like you removed a few packages after installing cinnamon, nothing surprising here. |
| 11:34.42 | ForceRecon | I was reading online that this was caused by a recent update to the system.. |
| 11:34.57 | ForceRecon | is there no truth to that? |
| 11:35.17 | petn-randall | ForceRecon: In Debian stable? |
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| 11:36.15 | ForceRecon | yes |
| 11:37.01 | petn-randall | ForceRecon: I doubt that any significant changes there recently. Where did you read this? |
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| 11:37.23 | ForceRecon | actually after checking it was an old article.. |
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| 11:37.30 | ForceRecon | 2015.. heh.. |
| 11:37.36 | ForceRecon | thanks google |
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| 11:38.11 | ForceRecon | but it solved my problem.. I did not install anything new or remove anything.. I just went to edit my menu and got that error then reboot and could not log in at all.. |
| 11:38.15 | ForceRecon | no desktop |
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| 11:38.28 | ForceRecon | i really did not do anything new or install or remove anything today |
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| 11:45.24 | fiet | pagios: It has to. If you can make it print correctly using lpr, it's obviously a wrong setting. Check the cups webinterface, mnage printers, set default options. Make sure they're correct. |
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| 11:53.18 | pagios | fiet, https://i.imgur.com/97MlVZC.png |
| 11:53.22 | pagios | i am not able to change b5 |
| 11:53.28 | pagios | everytime i change it it changes back to b5 |
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| 11:58.36 | fiet | pagios: Possibly that's managef by the printer itself. afaik when you change anything it is sent to the printer. After that the printer is queried again to retrieve the settings. Maybe the same with your orientation issue, Check the printer itself as well. |
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| 12:00.50 | jomofcw | OK JustASlacker ! I check it, ty. |
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| 12:17.58 | introom | is there any python binding available for =libnl= in debian? |
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| 12:29.28 | themill | introom: pyroute2 is packaged |
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| 12:35.36 | dff | anyone here have experience with darkstat? |
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| 12:36.51 | fiet | I use it, yes. |
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| 12:39.43 | Tarrasquero | ongy: apt-get install -f? |
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| 12:40.42 | dff | fiet: does it need to run with root privileges? |
| 12:41.01 | ongy | no such luck, dpkg fails because it can't communicate with system (due to missing dbus I would asume) which makes this a bit annoying |
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| 12:41.27 | fiet | dff: No, it doesn't. It just needs access to your interfaces. |
| 12:41.31 | ongy | I tried to start dbus manually to get the setup running, but that just changes the error to something about lanuch-helper, which doesn't help me either |
| 12:41.32 | Tarrasquero | dff: it's a drawer |
| 12:42.04 | dff | how do i give it access to the interface in question? |
| 12:42.32 | Iridos | why does dpkg need to communicate via dbus anyway |
| 12:43.00 | ongy | I would asume systemdctl enable/systemctl start |
| 12:43.11 | Tarrasquero | ongy: systemd start dbus |
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| 12:43.23 | Iridos | that's a command⦠|
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| 12:44.01 | ongy | Tarrasquero: do you mean systemctl? |
| 12:44.20 | dff | also, unrelated by my questions about darkstat, how do i verify the gpg key for debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org |
| 12:44.27 | fiet | dff: I think you can use setcap to set the proper permissions on darkstat. |
| 12:44.31 | dff | i cant find anything about it on debian.org |
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| 12:45.22 | dff | fiet: do you advise to run darkstat on its own user |
| 12:45.22 | Iridos | ongy, is that apt{,get,cache,itude} or dpkg? |
| 12:45.30 | dff | and just set permission to access the interface |
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| 12:45.46 | Iridos | I don't see a dependency in direction of dbus anywhere (well, that's in stretch) |
| 12:45.51 | ongy | Iridos: the error comes from dpkg |
| 12:45.59 | fiet | dff: Never hurts to do that, or run it as nobody |
| 12:46.24 | dff | doesnt matter which? |
| 12:46.24 | Iridos | I don't see anything about dbus in aptitude changelog dpkg |
| 12:46.27 | ongy | I call apt, but the error comes from dpkg complaining about post-install script |
| 12:46.28 | Tarrasquero | ongy: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html |
| 12:46.38 | themill | ongy: postinst â dpkg btw |
| 12:46.40 | fiet | dff: I use it on my NAS mostly and darkstat is not reachable from the internet |
| 12:46.45 | Iridos | ah |
| 12:46.48 | dff | but then id have to give the grp nobody access the nic right? |
| 12:47.01 | Iridos | that makes more sense⦠but then it's only specific packages |
| 12:47.01 | ongy | themill: then why does the log line start with a bold "dpkg:"? |
| 12:47.09 | Iridos | because dpkg runs postinst |
| 12:47.12 | fiet | No, with setcap you can gove darkstat itself (the binary) poermissions. |
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| 12:47.32 | fiet | dff: Google for tcpdump as non-root, and you'll see the same issues. |
| 12:47.36 | dff | fiet: im going to set darkstat to only be accesible on my LAN too, but never hurts to go the extra mile |
| 12:47.38 | ongy | Tarrasquero: yes? that's a config file documentation. I'm not quite sure what you are trying to tell me |
| 12:47.47 | dff | thanks for the tip fiet |
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| 12:47.53 | themill | ongy: any chance we can see the full output in a pastebin? |
| 12:47.58 | ongy | I can try |
| 12:48.41 | ws2k3 | Can i enable sockets in php when installed from the repository? |
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| 12:49.10 | fiet | dff: I use VPN for most of that stuff, so I don't need to open it up to the world. I think you'll get what you want with setcap. Good luck. |
| 12:49.15 | ongy | what's the easiest one I can paste to? ddg isn't helping me -.- |
| 12:49.24 | Tarrasquero | ongy: It depends on what you use |
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| 12:49.29 | petn-randall | ws2k3: You need to be more specific about what you mean if you want to get a meaningful answer. |
| 12:49.34 | themill | ongy: what's difficult about a pastebin? |
| 12:49.42 | Iridos | yeah⦠seeing real errors instead of speculation about/interpretation of them would be good |
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| 12:50.22 | ws2k3 | petn-randall sockets support. so that i am able to open a tcp/udp socket. iirc php from the repository doesnt have that |
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| 12:50.36 | ongy | http://termbin.com/f33v |
| 12:50.54 | ongy | themill: getting the text out of tmux |
| 12:51.02 | dff | thanks again fiet, have a nice day! |
| 12:51.18 | petn-randall | ws2k3: I haven't seen such a limit yet. |
| 12:51.36 | petn-randall | ws2k3: Can you show us details? Like what you're trying to run, what errors you get, etc? |
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| 12:51.56 | Tarrasquero | ongy: dpkg --configure -a |
| 12:52.09 | ongy | same errors |
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| 12:53.06 | themill | ongy: are you sharing /var/run into this container or environment variables? |
| 12:53.15 | themill | (or /run) |
| 12:53.49 | ongy | not on purpose. It's a fresh lxc-create -t download. I attach and run su -l to get the environment up |
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| 12:54.40 | ongy | definitly different /run (and /var/run symlinks to /run) |
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| 12:55.34 | themill | the postinst only tries to talk to dbus if /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket exists and that should only be the case ifits running |
| 12:55.51 | ongy | that doesn't exist |
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| 12:57.11 | ws2k3 | petn-randall i think i already found it. it seems to be working just fine |
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| 12:59.33 | Tarrasquero | ongy: exist dbus run level 5 |
| 12:59.35 | tsukuyomi | hi, since I upgraded from debian stable to testing I'm having some issues with chromium. The upper part, where the seems to flicker sometime. Do you guys know if it's a common problem or how I could fix it? |
| 13:00.01 | Tarrasquero | ? |
| 13:00.11 | ongy | Tarrasquero: I have no idea what that is or how I would check |
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| 13:01.32 | Tarrasquero | :$ |
| 13:02.34 | Tarrasquero | https://elbauldelprogramador.com/entendiendo-los-runlevel-en-debian-y-ubuntu/ |
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| 13:03.54 | ongy | I don't speak that language. But if you are asking whether the /etc/rc5.d/ contains a dbus symlink, it does |
| 13:04.29 | Tarrasquero | ongy: /etc/rc5.d/ multiusers |
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| 13:05.12 | Tarrasquero | ongy: ok |
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| 13:10.18 | Tarrasquero | ongy: # export RUNLEVEL=1 |
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| 13:10.42 | Tarrasquero | # ap-get install dbus |
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| 13:11.52 | ongy | yea, that doesn't change anything, but I just got another idea. looks like I need to dig into systemd a little and less into apt/dpkg |
| 13:12.32 | Tarrasquero | ongy: :°) |
| 13:13.18 | Tarrasquero | use systemd |
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| 13:16.28 | ongy | ok, so the fix: `lxc.init.cmd = /sbin/init systemd.legacy_systemd_cgroup_controller` added in the lxc config =.= I've seen this before in fedora and just remembered.... systemd wants to use the newer cgroup structure and that fails because the host uses the older controller. Which of course blocks startup so things like dbus never get started in the container |
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| 13:30.58 | archiebald | dumb question: how can i prevent a book collection management software (calibre) to come to the foreground everytime it makes a small job like converting an ebook, or else, it just pops as active window, and I wish it stayed in the background? debian 9 |
| 13:33.03 | petn-randall | archiebald: I'd first check in the settings if you can find such an option. If that fails, many window managers have a setting to focus an application if it opens a new window. If you disable that, it should go away. |
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| 13:58.37 | Iridos | archiebald, why does it start jobs non-interactively? |
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| 14:22.18 | archiebald | Iridos: oh it does start the job because I ask it, but while on the converting job and uploading to device job, every step of the way, it sends some sort of "notification" (start job, jog is ongoing, job complete, ... ) and that brings the software on the foreground |
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| 15:04.11 | r3 | I've cloned a system, and now have its filesystem mounted elsewhere in order to make changes to it so that it is unique (hostname, ip address, etc.). I would also like to regenerate ssh keys so that when I bring the system up on its own I may ssh into it without issue. Since this is a mounted filesystem, I cannot do "dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server", but I might be able to do the commands on |
| 15:04.11 | r3 | this page: [ http://www.softec.lu/site/DevelopersCorner/HowToRegenerateNewSsh ] but redirected to the mount, as in use '/mnt/etc/ssh/ssh_host_...' instead of '/etc/ssh/ssh_host_...' : My question is if this is the right and proper way to accomplish this, or have I gone off the deep end? |
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| 15:06.32 | donofrio | how do I identity to freenode arrgh |
| 15:06.44 | jusss | I can't too |
| 15:06.52 | jusss | freenode is split? |
| 15:06.54 | donofrio | yah freenode broken ;( |
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| 15:07.03 | donofrio | at least it's not just me |
| 15:07.21 | petn-randall | r3: libguestfs-tools has a tool called virt-sysprep that does all these things (and more) for you. |
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| 15:07.46 | jusss | I can't join #archlinux now |
| 15:07.51 | petn-randall | donofrio, jusss, #freenode might be a better place ot ask. |
| 15:07.52 | jusss | so I came here, aha |
| 15:07.53 | donofrio | yepper |
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| 15:07.58 | donofrio | tnx will do |
| 15:08.24 | petn-randall | There's not much we can do from here, and it's a bit offtopic for #debian. |
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| 15:09.39 | jusss | what terminal you guys use? |
| 15:09.49 | jusss | xterm is a little weird and old |
| 15:09.55 | donofrio | petn-randall, I am in freenode-overflow and no-one is talking there |
| 15:09.57 | donofrio | :( |
| 15:10.11 | jusss | and I use it for a long time, I'd like to try new |
| 15:10.14 | jusss | new one |
| 15:10.16 | petn-randall | jusss: Most DEs come with their own terminal, like xfce4-termina, gnome-terminal, etc. |
| 15:10.21 | nkuttler | jusss: rxvt |
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| 15:11.00 | donofrio | jusss, I use hexchat like I have for past years |
| 15:11.00 | jusss | petn-randall: I'd like to try some termianls they're isolate with DE |
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| 15:18.00 | r3 | petn-randall: thanks, I will look into that in the future, but as there are only like four things or so to change (I think for my application) I just wanted to see if using 'ssh-keygen' in that way was OK to do |
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| 15:19.19 | donofrio | jusss, its all better now |
| 15:19.35 | donofrio | sorry all for OT talk. |
| 15:20.03 | donofrio | jusss, or not...still cannot join #ubuntu |
| 15:20.15 | donofrio | I'll too seek freenode channel |
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