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| 00:12.09 | MaxLanar | somiaj: ok, after a lot of research, trial and error, I got my pactl cron command to work doing this : |
| 00:12.15 | MaxLanar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.36 | MaxLanar | 2/ set -a |
| 00:12.51 | MaxLanar | . /some/file |
| 00:12.55 | MaxLanar | set +a |
| 00:13.10 | MaxLanar | 'my pactl command' |
| 00:13.23 | somiaj | MaxLanar: ahh nice approach, kinda a sledge hammer, but a way to copy the enviorment over. Though I would try to remove stuff you know you don't need for the cron job |
| 00:13.39 | MaxLanar | in an executable file with #! /bin/bash |
| 00:13.50 | MaxLanar | then call the file in cron |
| 00:14.21 | somiaj | standard a approach, write a script in which you set up the enviroment you need |
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| 00:27.43 | setuid | rant, teatime thanks for the insight! |
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| 00:43.47 | grungy | Hello, |
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| 00:44.53 | mutante | 2 Gbits/s ? |
| 00:44.56 | metxn | probably around 2gb/s |
| 00:45.06 | metxn | gbit* |
| 00:45.40 | metxn | ð |
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| 00:54.31 | impermanence | First time debian user. First thing I notice is I can use apt-get install to get any package I need. Please help me, lol. Obviously I'd like to put some repo url's in /etc/apt/sources.list but... |
| 00:54.36 | impermanence | *can't use |
| 00:54.40 | impermanence | that should've read |
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| 00:55.22 | mutante | impermanence: after adding the new repo urls, run 'apt-get update' to read them |
| 00:55.30 | impermanence | k, let me try that... |
| 00:55.42 | impermanence | stuff is happening :) |
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| 00:56.04 | impermanence | damn fam...that was it! |
| 00:56.07 | mutante | update reads the list of packages from the repos.. so what's available |
| 00:56.08 | impermanence | Eureka! |
| 00:56.12 | mutante | heh, welcome |
| 00:56.17 | impermanence | gosh |
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| 00:56.31 | impermanence | let me gist you my sources file and tell me if I'm missing any fundamental repos. one sec here. |
| 00:57.16 | mutante | unlikely, everything fundamental is in the default ones, heh |
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| 00:58.48 | impermanence | The first three came on the ec2 image. The last six I googled -> copy-pasted... https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f7215993d01632a691d3f05e82768473 |
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| 00:59.26 | Shepherd | Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want. |
| 00:59.26 | Shepherd | Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here. |
| 00:59.26 | Shepherd | Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you. |
| 00:59.26 | Shepherd | Freenode is not respecting your rights, quit this network now. Oper intentions is to make you follow their ideology, you can't think freely here, you can't talk what you want. |
| 00:59.27 | Shepherd | Refusing to obey their dictatorship will result into your permament ban here. |
| 00:59.27 | Shepherd | Please don't comment on spam, stop it right now! Commenting on spam is not allowed, also, don't say anything at all until opers let you. |
| 01:00.25 | mutante | how meta |
| 01:00.44 | impermanence | the bullshit above or my gist? |
| 01:00.51 | impermanence | likely the former I suppose ;) |
| 01:01.01 | mutante | spamming to not comment on spam :) |
| 01:01.16 | doubledutch | !offtopic |
| 01:01.16 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 01:01.18 | Kobrick | Gucci Gang, ooh, yeah, Lil Pump, yeah, Gucci Gang, ooh |
| 01:01.18 | Kobrick | Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang |
| 01:01.18 | Kobrick | Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!) |
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| 01:01.19 | Kobrick | My bitch love do cocaine, ooh |
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| 01:01.25 | impermanence | did you peep my repos? maybe I only need the first three? |
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| 01:01.32 | Hamas | Gucci Gang, ooh, yeah, Lil Pump, yeah, Gucci Gang, ooh |
| 01:01.32 | Hamas | Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang |
| 01:01.32 | Hamas | Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang (Gucci gang!) |
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| 01:01.32 | Hamas | My bitch love do cocaine, ooh |
| 01:01.32 | Hamas | I fuck a bitch, I forgot her name |
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| 01:02.55 | mutante | impermanence: i think you are just repeating the same sources twice |
| 01:02.59 | mutante | but it wouldnt break anything |
| 01:03.06 | mutante | one if a mirror of the other |
| 01:03.08 | mutante | is |
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| 01:03.23 | impermanence | makes sense. thx, you've been most helpful. |
| 01:04.12 | mutante | impermanence: by the way, "jessie" is a bit old |
| 01:04.25 | mutante | "stretch" (one version later) is already "stable" |
| 01:05.54 | impermanence | mutante: cool, thanks. |
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| 01:30.40 | impermanence | mutante: can running apt-get update break a system? |
| 01:30.57 | impermanence | I imagine apt-get upgrade...but what about update? |
| 01:31.06 | impermanence | speaking stereotypically here |
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| 01:32.51 | mutante | impermanence: no, "update" just updates the information what is available in the repos, it doesn't change actual software |
| 01:33.02 | impermanence | mutante: nice, thanks. |
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| 01:37.50 | impermanence | mutante: does debian use ufw? or...dfw, lol? |
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| 01:42.41 | mutante | impermanence: no, you an use iptables directly or fwbuilder, or ferm or shorewall.. or others https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall#Basic_firewall_software |
| 01:42.56 | impermanence | cool |
| 01:43.05 | mutante | basically you can google for an existing firewall.sh and just modify it .. if you even need to |
| 01:43.13 | mutante | and then make it run that at boot |
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| 01:46.14 | muck | for powerpc, the stretch repos have far fewer packages than the sid repos, but the latest installation media for ppc is jessie |
| 01:46.38 | muck | should i then install jessie > dist-upgrade to stretch > dist-upgrade to sid? |
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| 01:47.14 | Bailar | We're just about to use that section, would you like a crack at it first?} I quickly unzipped my pants and wasted no time jamming my erect penis into the stallion's defenseless asshole. With each thrust, I donkey punched the horse in the back of the head, making it clench its ass even tighter. I came just as the horse died. I was delighted. Popeyes definitely went the extra mile to make me a satisfied customer. |
| 01:47.14 | Blackbourn | girl you must be a 0day topsite because I just wanna max out your slots |
| 01:47.23 | Coldren | God damn it. I am sick of these extremist arab fucks. I wish we would turn the region into green glowing glass. Don't feed me this "america caused it" bullshit either, they are a bunch of fucking animals and should be treated as such. |
| 01:47.23 | Boxer | FUCK U!!!!! I WILL FIND U AND KILL U A HUNDRED TIMES SEVEN!!!!! U CAN COUNT THE DAYS ON UR HANDS THAT U HAVE TO LIVE BEFORE I SLAY YOU IN THE STREETS AND BUTCHER U LIKE A CATTLE!!!!!! NO ONE DARES TO DO DISGRACE ME AS U HAVE!!!! WATCH UR BACK, FOR I COME WITH MURDER ON MY BREATH!!!!!! |
| 01:47.24 | Bailar | Roll Playing (RP) turns into real life tragedies and Real people get hurt or die. If you want to RP why not try to Roll Play real life situations such as how to pay the electric bill, house payment, and car payment, insurance and so on. Roll Play your parents working hard to give you a better education and life. |
| 01:47.24 | Blackbourn | girl you must be a sata2 hard drive because you are modestly increasing my pipe |
| 01:47.33 | Coldren | I'm a Vietnam Vet. I don't like gooks, Islam and all that shit. It is a just war in Iraq. Those son of a bitchin Iraqi's are trying to make other people live like them, including you. Look at what they did to the Kurds, the invasion of Kuwait and the beheadings of the internationals who have nothing to do with the war. They're cowards and eventually will be eliminated if for anything, their oil. The John Kerry liberals of the world are also your enemies al |
| 01:47.33 | Boxer | speaking of policy, at least my country has enough sense to limit itself to two moderately similar political parties. you disgust me with your parliamentary coalitions that don't manage to do anything except to highlight the evils of socialism |
| 01:47.34 | Bailar | Last weekend I slept over at a friend's house, but forgot to bring an extra pair of underwear. He offered to let me borrow a pair of his. Well, we went for a long car ride, and long story short...I shit in his underwear. Not a lot, but whoever did the laundry would definitely notice. When we got home, I pulled him aside and told him about it. "Pull down your pants. I want to see the damage," he replied. I was somewhat taken aback by this response. It was his un |
| 01:47.34 | Blackbourn | When I masterbate I fantasize about strange things. Like shitting in other peoples mouths while I watch them slowly drown in quicksand. I wish I wasn't so fucked up. What's worse is that seems like the only way I can get off. |
| 01:47.43 | Coldren | girl you must be a .bin with no .cue file because I have to wrangle with you for hours only be burned in the end |
| 01:47.43 | Boxer | put down that joystick, son, and get yourself to the bar; there are all sorts of women out there waiting to take your money in exchange for a pittance of shallow affection |
| 01:47.44 | Bailar | Niggers fucked my ass liberally. They strapped me onto the hood of their Cadillac Escalade and could not keep their enormous dicks out of me. They were performing many red flag touches. I could not believe how big their cocks were. I told the niggers the city would not approve of an undercover police officer shitting blood for a week without a doctor's note. |
| 01:47.44 | Blackbourn | Presumably you're either joking, or you're not a web designer. |
| 01:47.53 | Coldren | jesus I spent the formative years of my childhood masturbating to a shemale sprite |
| 01:47.53 | Boxer | Well, I can't waste all day in this IRC. Gotta go to a T5 meet for some training. Gotta place high in this years TiT and Evo2k5 tournaments. (Tekken 5.) See ya guys. :( |
| 01:48.03 | Coldren | ObjC is able to use C code directly without change. That's why MS is pushing C# - it makes it harder to port code to OSX. With Windows projects done in C, most of the code can remain unchanged. You just add a little ObjC to handle the system stuff. With C#, most of the code must be completely rewritten. |
| 01:48.03 | Boxer | I hate when people think they're saving the world just by riding their bike. It's like those black and white couples that think they're fighting racism just by fucking each other. |
| 01:48.13 | Coldren | Hey /b/, I have a very serious problem. I'm fucking crying because of how stupid I am.Okay, so my girlfriend was supposed to come over to my house today because I was going to go take her to a movie. She lives about 20 minutes away, and the movie we were supposed to see started at 4:15, which was in about 40 minutes. I figured "cool, I'll just play Pokemon while I wait".So I'm playing Pokemon, and having a pretty damn good time. Anyway, she finally does sh |
| 01:48.13 | Boxer | Last weekend I slept over at a friend's house, but forgot to bring an extra pair of underwear. He offered to let me borrow a pair of his. Well, we went for a long car ride, and long story short...I shit in his underwear. Not a lot, but whoever did the laundry would definitely notice. When we got home, I pulled him aside and told him about it. "Pull down your pants. I want to see the damage," he replied. I was somewhat taken aback by this response. It was his u |
| 01:48.23 | Coldren | I am a gay. My problem is my asshole is very small and even my finger does not fit inside. How can I make my asshole wider. |
| 01:48.23 | Boxer | Ã 9/11 was done by sandniggers and all 7-11s are run by sandniggers. coincidence? i think not. |
| 01:48.33 | Coldren | I'm sort of new to this linux thing, but there's this directory on my new install of Debian 3.1 called "/usr/bin". It was all messed up when I first went in there. None of the files had descriptive names, and it took me like an hour to figure out they were executables, since none of them had .exe on the end of them. Furthermore, whenever I double click them, they just pop up a command prompt for a few seconds then go away. I was gonna delete them, but I go |
| 01:48.33 | Boxer | I have always fantasized about being a doll. like one of those real dolls, only my owner doesn't know I'm in there. They think I'm just a doll, when really I am enjoying everything that is bring done to me. Having no control of my body, being dominated completely, and then being put away when I'm not being used. However, I know that this is not possible in the real world, which saddens me. I however I'm sure there is someone out there that would gladly own me |
| 01:48.43 | Coldren | TAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILLTAKE THE BLUE PILLTAKE THE RED PILL |
| 01:48.43 | Boxer | I didn't get laid. She said she was "bi but doesn't date guys", so we're just friends. God I'm such a fucking loser. |
| 01:48.53 | Coldren | girl you must be a rodeo bull because i want to ride you for 8 seconds and then get off |
| 01:48.53 | Boxer | girl you must be java bytecode because you let me use you anywhere I want |
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| 01:49.03 | Coldren | God damn it. I am sick of these extremist arab fucks. I wish we would turn the region into green glowing glass. Don't feed me this "america caused it" bullshit either, they are a bunch of fucking animals and should be treated as such. |
| 01:49.03 | Boxer | FUCK U!!!!! I WILL FIND U AND KILL U A HUNDRED TIMES SEVEN!!!!! U CAN COUNT THE DAYS ON UR HANDS THAT U HAVE TO LIVE BEFORE I SLAY YOU IN THE STREETS AND BUTCHER U LIKE A CATTLE!!!!!! NO ONE DARES TO DO DISGRACE ME AS U HAVE!!!! WATCH UR BACK, FOR I COME WITH MURDER ON MY BREATH!!!!!! |
| 01:49.13 | Coldren | I'm a Vietnam Vet. I don't like gooks, Islam and all that shit. It is a just war in Iraq. Those son of a bitchin Iraqi's are trying to make other people live like them, including you. Look at what they did to the Kurds, the invasion of Kuwait and the beheadings of the internationals who have nothing to do with the war. They're cowards and eventually will be eliminated if for anything, their oil. The John Kerry liberals of the world are also your enemies al |
| 01:49.13 | Boxer | speaking of policy, at least my country has enough sense to limit itself to two moderately similar political parties. you disgust me with your parliamentary coalitions that don't manage to do anything except to highlight the evils of socialism |
| 01:49.23 | Coldren | girl you must be a .bin with no .cue file because I have to wrangle with you for hours only be burned in the end |
| 01:49.23 | Boxer | put down that joystick, son, and get yourself to the bar; there are all sorts of women out there waiting to take your money in exchange for a pittance of shallow affection |
| 01:49.38 | muck | ...i guess ppc is a touchy subject |
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| 01:49.54 | Anma | I am pleased to announce that, in addition to having spotless tiles and grout in my bathroom, my hands are several orders of magnitude cleaner than yours. My fingernails all but sparkle in the daylight, due to their highly polished status. Upon examination under a scanning electron microscope, you will notice that the crevices of my hands are quite literally free of germs or other bacterial growths. Your hands, in comparison, are a veritable wasteland of urine, d |
| 01:49.56 | Krasney | It's about time I told the truth. The reason I don't like gays is that when I was in the navy I had several homosexual experiences and so i know what faggots get up to is the devils work. This black guy in my dorm used to make me suck his dick and then he'd pump my ass full of his vile semen and there was nothing I could do about it. The shit eating faggot had me trapped there for months at sea so I had to suck his rancid sambo dick until we got back to por |
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| 01:50.04 | Anma | they call me the King, of downloading THings, got bandwidth like no one on Earth. My modems are hot, but the warez I got, adds to my collecting-stuff mirth. I can't burn enough, CD's that are stuffed, with rars, zips, and tars of all kinds, but I must be strong, download all night long, ignore telltale OCD signs. |
| 01:50.06 | Krasney | STAR WARS EWOX JEDI X-WING GREEDOO DEATH STARS ANAKIN VADER JABBA HUT LIGHTSABERS VULCANZ HAN SOLO AT-ATs PADAWAN YODA ITS A TRAP CP30 CHEWIE |
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| 01:50.08 | Fido | John Stamos is getting divorced just as the Olsen twins turn 18. Coincidence? I think not. I think someone is going to be entering the backdoors of two little houses very soon. |
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| 01:50.14 | Anma | I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. |
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| 01:50.16 | Krasney | jesus I spent the formative years of my childhood masturbating to a shemale sprite |
| 01:50.17 | Untermeyer | Yes I too fell victim to internet cruelty. Only in my case it was IRC abuse. To make a long story short I was willing to do anything to get +V and some 'people' took advantage of that. |
| 01:50.18 | Fido | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.22 | Rocha | You know how sometimes when you poop, it's a blue color? Well, I had one of those poops on Friday because I had been eating artificially colored animal crackers. After pinching a couple out, I thought it would be funny to trick my girlfriend. I placed them on the coffee table and told her they were novelty candies. Before I could tell her I was just joking, she took a bite! Well, after a long weekend in the hospital, my girlfriend died of spinal meningitis. |
| 01:50.24 | Anma | I'm selling a wireless Dreamcast Modchip, you dont even need to open it up! you put it just to the right of your console (where the fan is) and it will work. I have 10 on stock, 5$ each, or 10 for 45$ , msg me if you are intressted |
| 01:50.26 | Krasney | Did You Know: As late as 1987, instruction booklets included in the classic Parker Bros. board game "Monopoly" contained directions for appointing one player as "The Jew"? It was not until the early 90s that references to "The Jew" were replaced by "The Banker" in all game packaging and accompanying material. |
| 01:50.27 | Untermeyer | Fuck my ass 'till my ass is filled. Thrust that cock up to the hilt. Ours is the house that Shepard built; all cocks hard and none shall wilt! Splatter your jizz all over my face. Rub it on in like grade school paste. To my ass your cock has laid waste; Mom still thinks that I am chaste ;) |
| 01:50.28 | Fido | I always told myself I would try anything once but this was a total failure. Was smoking some killer hash in denmark and met this american african woman named shawna. She seemed to be educated and we hit it off. One thing led to another and then She gave me a BJ which was really good and when I went down on her I vomited. I lied and told her I had a cold with post nasal drip. I have sores in my mouth. After wiping the vomit off of he |
| 01:50.33 | Rocha | Did you Europeans quit when you were behind in your butchering Jews like unwanted fetuses? Don't bother booting up En Carta, genius, the answer is no. My yarmulke wearing Sergeant Grandpa had to fly his jet over there and knock the gas chamber remote out of your assy smelling fingers himself. And while he was at it I think he popped a WWII era cap right in your sunken euro-chest. I'll never forget the stories he told me about how he and his buddies and a bunch o |
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| 01:50.34 | Anma | The strangest blow job I ever experienced was when I went to visit Shaq and friends in the locker room when he was still playing for LA. They held me down while Kobe held my mouth open and Shaq rammed his elephant trunk man hammer into my mouth. I immediately started gagging and throwing up but the meat missle was so big it held the barf back and it went into my stomach instead. Then they took me into the shower and proceeded to turn me into the team pin cushi |
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| 01:50.44 | Thavaneswaran | one time i was in my friends bathroom taking a shit and i was reading a maxim magazine that was by the toilet and saw some semi nude shots of some model (i dont even remember who) and i had the sudden urge to masturbate. i continued to do so and cleaned up and went out as if nothing happened. it was exhilarating and i wanted to do it again. so i did. several times. i even asked to use his shower so i could secretly masturbate in there. i like doing |
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| 01:50.54 | Thavaneswaran | Y0 what kind of crimes u into? im all about a plan to kidnap a person / rape them / torture them / kill them / cutting off da head / drain da body of blood / rape da corpse / eat da corpse / dispose of da organs and bones / finish ff7 |
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| 01:57.29 | rant | muck: ppc support has been dropped, only ppc64 exists beyond jessie |
| 01:57.52 | muck | ppc64el you mean? |
| 01:58.01 | rant | yes |
| 01:58.12 | rant | !ppc |
| 01:58.13 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <macsound>, <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
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| 01:58.33 | muck | i see that - but the package DB has plenty of ppc packages in sid |
| 01:58.55 | muck | can i use sid's repos on jessie without breaking? |
| 01:59.15 | muck | ah, i'll join the irc |
| 01:59.17 | muck | thanks |
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| 02:02.58 | _b52 | Hi, I have totally broken my system and might need to reinstall. Is there a way to preserve /home if it's in the same partition as the other directories? I can't recall how I did the partitioning |
| 02:05.11 | Oksana | International Space Station: The operating system used for key station functions is the Debian Linux distribution. The migration from Microsoft Windows was made in May 2013 for reasons of reliability, stability and flexibility. |
| 02:05.22 | rant | _b52: well there are some options.. back it up to another media, don't reformat/repartition when you reinstall (could possibly cause issues) |
| 02:06.05 | somiaj | _b52: you could delete everything except /home before your install intead of formatting the partition. |
| 02:06.17 | rant | Oksana: could you not do that here. We been being spammed and there are people here trying to get help. Thats more a #debian-offtopic thing |
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| 02:07.08 | rant | yes however deleting everything is tricky especially if you dont boot from another media.. I've installed right over an install before but if you dont install the exact same stuff you could wind up with cruft |
| 02:07.20 | _b52 | rant: somiaj OK thanks. Not sure exactly what happened, I did a dist upgrade which partially finished and then apt reported errors. Then after rebooting it would not boot, many errors. Even /bin/sh did not exist. So something went very wrong |
| 02:07.27 | somiaj | I was just thinking of doing that from the shell in side the installer |
| 02:07.57 | somiaj | though yea, any thing I would suggest doing form some live system. |
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| 02:08.37 | coruja | _b52, debian unstable? |
| 02:09.38 | _b52 | coruja: testing |
| 02:10.08 | coruja | apt policy dash |
| 02:10.51 | _b52 | coruja: I can run it soon, just retrieving data currently |
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| 02:11.30 | coruja | ah, i just read you can't boot anymore |
| 02:11.51 | coruja | was dash the package which threw errors while upgrading? |
| 02:12.00 | coruja | (if you recall) |
| 02:12.15 | _b52 | coruja: No, it was "package" something |
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| 02:12.43 | _b52 | Everytime I ran apt afterwards it would exit with non-zero withou doing anything |
| 02:14.03 | somiaj | could be the /bin/sh link just got broken |
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| 02:14.28 | coruja | same here, but using unstable (reference https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888180) |
| 02:15.36 | _b52 | somiaj: I recreated it but everything was still broken |
| 02:15.40 | coruja | which will be fixed in most recent version (still to come) and which can be fixed by a softlink of dash to /bin |
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| 02:16.15 | coruja | (exactly /usr/bin/dash -> /bin/dash) |
| 02:16.39 | _b52 | Now I get "The package apt needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it" |
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| 02:17.01 | coruja | ok, sounds like a different matter |
| 02:17.14 | _b52 | So I downloaded apt, run dpkg -i on it but it gives me some crap about too many symlinks |
| 02:17.18 | coruja | nevermind then |
| 02:17.19 | _b52 | So it's quite broke heh |
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| 02:21.18 | Solon | If your daughter listens to hip hop music, you should caution her against taking MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy if she plans to go to hip hop concerts or hip hop clubs. As everyone knows, when you add E to rap, you get RAPE. |
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| 02:21.25 | wdalyijn | It's a shame the gooks beat you good in Vietnam. (though you probably won the unofficial underage girl rape contest)You fucking rambo wankers |
| 02:21.31 | Solon | No more group sex in the Jacuzzi, got it? You all kept me up until 4am, and all the chlorine in the world wouldn't get rid of the shit that I found swimming in this thing 20 minutes ago. |
| 02:21.51 | Caratozzolo | Some advice to you gentoo users out there: Why don't you emerge yourself from that closet already you damn homo. |
| 02:21.54 | wdalyijn | You present a real and true perspective. A perspective of one who spends all his time surfing conspiracy websites and schizophrenic web forum postings, disregarding anything that conflicts with a predetermined conspiracist conclusion. |
| 02:21.54 | Solon | you must be real smarte to be albe to make a space robot, my parents have a dvd player thing, can you turn that into a robot, it has a lasre in it |
| 02:22.00 | Caratozzolo | i just took a shit and my toilet didn't really flush, i got pretty frustrated and now im going to masturbate to internet porn galleries. Good day to you. |
| 02:22.09 | wdalyijn | While the argument does not really say much being on a PG-rated television program, Data never reveals his genital region on screen. This makes confirmation fo genitals by direct examination impossible. |
| 02:22.16 | Solon | Typing laughter on IRC!While I understand that your knowledge of the world outside the Frances-strewn shards that, on any other day, would have comprised your double-wide is rather, shall we say, limited; Here in the big scary city we "America Haters" like to call civilization, there are rules that govern behavior and, to put a finer point on it, internet humor. And, although one could argue that, having missed out on the more elegant points in life such as col |
| 02:22.20 | wdalyijn | I love to satisfy women in which ever way they choose. I love to please you and make you scream and moan until you cant take it no more and grab my head pushing it between your legs making my tongue go deeper and deeper until it reaches that spot! And then squeezing my head between your thighs! I keep going until you are so wet that your sweet juices are drippin and running down your thighs and on my lips and all over m |
| 02:22.24 | Caratozzolo | i brush my teeth standing up. i also like to pee or shit standing up while doing so. sometimes i spit backwash on my penis and let it dry. it looks like that one time i slept over my uncle's house. oh btw i live in the freshman dorms. room 310. stop by and see me sometime. |
| 02:22.31 | wdalyijn | I hope I never have to hear any of these cosplay slangs ever at a convention. Anime Iowa is a place to have fun and to enjoy being surrounded by fellow fans. Not a place to treat other fans in a superior fashion. *Most of us experienced or are experiencing this in highschool* |
| 02:22.34 | Caratozzolo | If your daughter listens to hip hop music, you should caution her against taking MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy if she plans to go to hip hop concerts or hip hop clubs. As everyone knows, when you add E to rap, you get RAPE. |
| 02:22.38 | elektron | boo |
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| 02:22.44 | Solon | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.01 | dudutz_niech | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.21 | dudutz_niech | I wish that i was Vegeta from dragonball z. Once while stoned i tried to do a kamehameha and im sure my hands got hot. Im planning on picking a fight and while the adrenaline is flowing, im going to turn super saiyan and punish my opposition. Goku is stronger but Vegeta is cooler, im 38 with two kids.... my kids are weaklings, my wife left me and i like the way womans shoes make my calves look. |
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| 02:23.48 | Chien | I'm not really gay, I just act that way to annoy/creep out people. |
| 02:23.56 | PlayMate | I have looked at much gay porno and gotten no erections or arousal. I find it amusing. Gay culture on a whole I find grand, gays are often snobbish and excellent physical specimens which I find very admirable. |
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| 02:27.50 | oct2pus | Hey I had a question, i was considering using the backported version of mate on debian stretch, but when i went to (dist)-upgrade it also wanted to install apparmor, where would be the best place to find out why it wants to install apparmor as well? |
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| 02:29.54 | rant | oct2pus: I'm a bit curious why you want to try a backport of mate. |
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| 02:31.00 | oct2pus | im impulsive and it was there why i was idly checking the backports because of some reddit thread |
| 02:31.09 | oct2pus | i didnt upgrade yet ofcourse, i just checked what was going to change. |
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| 02:33.47 | rant | oct2pus: ah. well rdepends doesnt show anything that looks like mate would pull in that'd get apparmor.. closest thing I see is thunderbird |
| 02:34.44 | juniorTechnician | hello guys, I've been assigned to change the IP address of a hostname at work, so I went into /etc/hosts and didn't see that specific hostname (I saw others), is there any other file where you can set up hosts in debian? doing "ping hostname" works so the host must be stored somewhere |
| 02:34.44 | rant | and its only a suggested package |
| 02:36.24 | teatime | juniorTechnician: either /etc/hosts or in DNS, as a general rule |
| 02:36.58 | grungy | Hello guys, |
| 02:36.59 | grungy | https://pastebin.com/yPR30CaD |
| 02:37.05 | grungy | I found that in the auth.log |
| 02:37.11 | grungy | What does that mean ? |
| 02:37.58 | grungy | Jan 24 02:52:44 server10237 sshd[5324]: Bad protocol version identification 'GET http://www.bing.com/search?q=189.90.255.61%3A8080 HTTP/1.0' from 42.114.14.108 port 43263 |
| 02:37.58 | grungy | Jan 24 02:52:44 server10237 sshd[5325]: Bad protocol version identification 'CONNECT 27.123.200.67:80 HTTP/1.0' from 222.254.34.129 port 43273 |
| 02:37.59 | teatime | grungy: dumb script kiddies running their scripts against your box |
| 02:38.03 | juniorTechnician | teatime: where is DNS? |
| 02:38.21 | teatime | juniorTechnician: "in the cloud" :) |
| 02:38.25 | grungy | teatime, what are they trying to do exactly ? |
| 02:38.31 | juniorTechnician | teatime: are you kidding? |
| 02:38.38 | teatime | juniorTechnician: only a little |
| 02:38.53 | teatime | grungy: they're running one of their scripts intended to run against a webserver against your sshd listening on presumably port 22 |
| 02:39.30 | teatime | juniorTechnician: presumably you guys have a DNS server |
| 02:39.39 | grungy | Wow, the box is a few hour new :) |
| 02:39.57 | teatime | grungy: its normal though. especially if it's in an IP block for a popular hosting service |
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| 02:40.56 | grungy | Ok ok, well it is :) |
| 02:41.13 | grungy | Anything can be done against this except changing the ssh port |
| 02:41.21 | juniorTechnician | teatime: ok, thanks, I will ask tomorrow which one it is and then proceed accordingly to reconfigure |
| 02:41.34 | juniorTechnician | I don't want to break anything |
| 02:41.34 | teatime | juniorTechnician: don't be afraid to ask questions! better than doing the wrong thing :) |
| 02:42.05 | teatime | grungy: it's pretty unavoidable. you can look into, like, fail2ban, but that is more useful to clean up your logs than it is necessary for security reasons. |
| 02:42.13 | teatime | grungy: changing the port also cleans up the logs more than anything else. |
| 02:42.59 | grungy | I running a port scan on one of my ips, I find port 111 (rpcbind) open, |
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| 02:43.08 | grungy | How secure/unsecure is it ? |
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| 02:43.45 | kallenp1 | any idea howto install Horde Groupware on Debian 9 ? Any step-by-step guide ? Verry bad documentation for Horde Groupware :( |
| 02:43.51 | teatime | you do not want that open to the internet |
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| 02:44.46 | grungy | teatime, when I run -ss -pn it does not show. Now why not ? Isn't supposed to be some kind of firewall stuff ? |
| 02:45.08 | teatime | I don't know what '-ss -pn' is |
| 02:47.02 | grungy | Shows all open sockets |
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| 02:47.39 | oct2pus | @rant: well i do have thunderbird installed, so maybe thats it i guess? |
| 02:47.47 | oct2pus | thanks anyways |
| 02:48.01 | teatime | grungy: netstat? lsof? '-ss' is not a command |
| 02:49.06 | grungy | teatime, ss -pn |
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| 02:49.55 | juniorTechnician | hello guys, I've been assigned to change the IP address of a hostname at work, so I went into /etc/hosts and didn't see that specific hostname (I saw others), is there any other file where you can set up hosts in debian? doing "ping hostname" works so the host must be stored somewhere.. where? |
| 02:49.59 | teatime | grungy: you'd need -l at least too, you want *listening* not open sockets. |
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| 02:50.13 | teatime | grungy: I usually use 'netstat -tlnp' and 'netstat -ulnp' for tcp and udp ones respectively |
| 02:50.27 | teatime | juniorTechnician: you... didn't beleive me, or what? |
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| 02:50.48 | Bullard | Japanese is such a sound poor language... it's impossible for them to say a lot of english sounds, LET ALONE German which is much more complex soundwise. |
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| 02:50.53 | juniorTechnician | teatime: no offense but you didn't answer my question |
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| 02:50.59 | Bullard | girl you must be Six Flag's newest roller coaster because some rednecks told me that they have been saving up their money all summer to ride you |
| 02:51.02 | juniorTechnician | I need to know where and I need to know it today, sorry bro |
| 02:51.03 | Lesser | girl you must be Frogger because I would cross rush hour traffic and cascading rivers in order to hop in your hole 6 times in a row |
| 02:51.06 | teatime | juniorTechnician: I did, there is /etc/hosts and the DNS system. |
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| 02:51.09 | Bullard | hey everyone remember that one time when klerck shot himself directly in the face with a shotgun and killed himself and we all were like "whoa" and he was like "drip drip"... that shit was awesome |
| 02:51.12 | Siesto | Adolf Hitler, the Fuhrer himself, burst into my room one eve and whisked me away on a dream vacation to the Bahamas! We toured the isles together arm-in-arm, and made love on the sandy beaches and in the clear, blue ocean. I fell in love with Hitler that weekend. Unfortunately when it was over, he disappeared, but I know that one day, mein Liebe will return and take me away to his castle in the clouds. |
| 02:51.15 | Kaboolian | I like to put excessively large ammounts of Vaseline on my cock and fuck empty toilet paper rolls. I think my parents are starting to notice that we're running out of Vaseline every 4 days or so. |
| 02:51.26 | Lesser | All this "linux dependabilty uptime unix lol" bullshit is just that, a crock of shit. How fucking hard is it to hit a goddamn reset button, you fat fucking sysadmins? I realize your just about to hit level 87 in everquest and you're already sweating from reaching for that jolt cola but for the love of god PLEASE stop using these stupid, unusable operating systems! |
| 02:51.29 | krytarik | !ops |
| 02:51.29 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 02:51.30 | Kaboolian | you must be real smarte to be albe to make a space robot, my parents have a dvd player thing, can you turn that into a robot, it has a lasre in it |
| 02:51.32 | Po | Basically my question to you is based on everything you've seen concerning the character of Bardock and Goku, what would happen if Goku had an actual meeting with his father? What words would they exchange? What would cause such a meeting, etc? It can be any continuity you choose. Now that you know what to write about, be creative and come up with what in your view would happen if father and son were to meet. |
| 02:51.36 | Siesto | At first, the idea sounded unthinkable. Use my hand to wipe my ass? Disgusting! But after 10 minutes of waiting, I decided that it was my only option. I slowly lowered my right hand under my butt and scooped all the fecal matter from my bottom. Not only did it feel gross, but now I had a whole new set of problems. One simply does not walk out of a bathroom stall in a public restroom with one hand covered in shit. I sat there |
| 02:51.37 | Bullard | Your "guess" is completely wrong. Just because animals can't talk doesn't mean they can't give consent. Animals have teeth, claws and can give audible warnings (growling, hissing, etc.) to voice their opposition to a sex act being performed on them. Also, many animals are quite intelligent and have a much faster neurodevelopmental rate than humans, reaching mental adulthood at extremely young ages by human standards. Finally, many animals are fully grown |
| 02:51.44 | Po | Would you leave an otherwise perfect relationship if you found out your partner was interested in children sexually? |
| 02:51.46 | Lesser | that is the nerdiest thing i have ever seen aside from my girlfriend and i wearing matching firefox tshirts |
| 02:51.47 | Bullard | I like to show off that I freeball. I love to have my pants just so so I show major butt crack also when I am at a urinal at a rest stop or sport event I unzip and unbutton my shorts so that when I am pissing the shorts drop down and everyone can see my bare ass! I love the feeling of guys knowing i freeball. what do you guys do to show off? |
| 02:51.51 | Kaboolian | girl you must be an internet forum because i am about to try and impress you using my stale in jokes from 1998 |
| 02:52.01 | Kaboolian | THERE IS NO JUSTIFICAITON FOR ATTACKING SOMEONE. NOT EVEN IF YOU'RE USING A COMPUTER TO DO IT. BECAUSE YOU'RE STLL HUMAN, AND THE PERSON YOU'RE ATTACKING IS STILL HUMAN, AND YOU BOTH STILL HAVE MINDS AND FEELINGS. |
| 02:52.02 | Bullard | there are 2 bits in bathroom binary. a number 1 (01) is taking a piss. a number 2 (10) is taking a poop. a number 3 (11) is a shitpiss where you poop and pee at the same time. |
| 02:52.05 | Siesto | Hey guys, did you ever consider what would happen if Star Trek perchance waged war with Star Wars? Who do you think might win such a conflict and why? |
| 02:52.09 | Lesser | If Jesus was Jewish, then why did he have a Puerto Rican name? You Stupid Faggots. |
| 02:52.11 | Po | Linux is an OS where files have no association to programs; all configuration and settings are stored "wherever" in text files that grow to be megabytes long; most shell commands are so abstractly named that you would never be able to use them without knowing how they work.. or first reading its "manual page".Linux is an operating system of inconsistancy. Theres over a thousand distributions of linux, and over a billion different modified versions of it. Programs co |
| 02:52.15 | Bullard | The way I look at it, you atheists are basically like this: "Look at me, world...I can debunk your faith in God and leave you applauding my perception and intelligence to bring forth the truth." Sorry, I've already forgotten your name, but the name of God will stand forever. |
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| 02:52.23 | Kaboolian | YEAH RIGHT SO I STRAIGHT STABBED SOME PROSTITUTE WITH A FORK. IT AINT NOTHIN THOUGH NAWMEAN. BITCH ASS JUDGE HIT ME WITH 3 YEARS OF PROBATION AND 80 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. 80 HOURS? NIGGA I BENCHPRESS 80 HOURS. NIGGAS THINK I AINT GONNA WILD OUT AND FORK SOMEONE ELSE CUZ I'M ON PAROLE SO I'M JUST LAUGHIN YO. I LAUGH AT THESE ACTORS. FUCKIN P.O THINKING I AINT GON COME IN HIGH AS SHIT OFF THE TREES JUST BECAUSE I GOT PEE IN A CUP. I DO THAT AND THRO |
| 02:52.25 | Siesto | You wouldn't think it to look at me, but I am a serious badass and I will mess you up if you so much as look at me funny. A lot of people were executed last year in this state for that deadliest of crimes: Fucking with me. So step back off of my IRC channel if you know what's good for you, BITCH. |
| 02:52.25 | Po | im gonna lift you with a forklift so high you'll beg to come down |
| 02:52.34 | Lesser | Your are thr reason this world going to hell your fucking piece of shit ...i hope you get strike down by lighting in the middle of the field and then wolfs eat your smodlering carcus you fucking physco path!! |
| 02:52.35 | Wani | You know how sometimes when you poop, it's a blue color? Well, I had one of those poops on Friday because I had been eating artificially colored animal crackers. After pinching a couple out, I thought it would be funny to trick my girlfriend. I placed them on the coffee table and told her they were novelty candies. Before I could tell her I was just joking, she took a bite! Well, after a long weekend in the hospital, my girlfriend died of spinal meningitis |
| 02:52.36 | Bullard | The lowest requirements for Doom 3 are a Pentium 4 1.6 Ghz, and as we all know the fastest pentiumIII is faster than the slowest pentium 4, so I think I'm fine. If not, I'll just wait for the Linux binary to come out so that I can run it on my ultra fast compiled-from-scratch Gentoo box. No M$ slow downs for me! |
| 02:52.39 | Kaboolian | A computer scientist? what are your credentials as a scientist? How have you furthered scientific knowledge? I am a scientist. PhD in space science, as a matter of fact. A veritable rocket scientist. I have also developed software for the last 25 years. I have headed software projects and delivered software to some important customers, including the DoD. So forgive me if I take exception to some programmer hack calling himself a scientist. |
| 02:52.46 | Wani | I am the world's foremost expert on sticking people's treasured items into my urethra. I have 'gauged' it to the point where I can almost wedge a piece of celery in there, though no one treasures celery. If anyone can beat this, I'd like to suck their dick! |
| 02:52.51 | Lesser | I cut myself because I find it an artform, just like tattoo's, but I LIKE cutting a beautiful drawing into myself, as I did it and I drew it. But I did cut along time ago so, that might be it. Anyway, I only cut when it fades and needs touching up, but it sure feels good! |
| 02:52.51 | Kaboolian | I get off on sticking my dick into house hold appliances. one day i put it in a blender, i was really drunk. When i woke up in the hospital my forskin was gone and they had to put in 50+ stiches. Needless to say, i enjoyed it thoroughly. |
| 02:52.54 | Bullard | SCIENCE TRIVIA: Did you know that the more members an instrumental rock band has, the worse they are? Studies have shown that the optimal number is zero |
| 02:53.05 | Lesser | picture yourself at college. she's the foreign exchange student from ... not china, the other one. in any case her english is poor and she laughs at even your shittiest jokes without understanding. you know she likes you. the only guys after her are skinny adenoidal fags that she gets enough of back home. she laughs at their jokes too, but it's not them she sits by in class, you come to associate that class with the smell of her. |
| 02:53.11 | Wani | girl you must be an o'reilly technical manual because despite your high price tag, you never say anything meaningful |
| 02:53.18 | Kaboolian | Touching, long handshakes, grasped buttocks, even walking hand in pocket by two males is common place in the Arab world. A considerable number of Arabs touch more between the same sex, to show liking--not sex. They hold hands at urinals, hug each other, kiss if close friends, sometimes with tongue. This is a pivotal part of Arab society that few westerners understand! |
| 02:55.04 | oct2pus | well that was something |
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| 03:02.41 | CoolSkeleton95 | I heard there was interesting spam here |
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| 03:09.36 | Parmeggiani | Flopping and flailing, tugging and yanking, rolling my micro-burrito between my thumb and forefinger, I desperately Google "Hairy Asian Pussy"... "Big Black Tits"... "Shaved Mature Naked"... but am unable to focus on any single image long enough to construct a suitable fantasy. I click rapidly from one photo to the next, accidentally smearing vitamin E oil on the keyboard and mouse, all through the night until morning's cruel r |
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| 03:09.38 | Trenga | She smiled as she felt her finger become drenched in her mother's hot cunt juice. She was surprised. She reached into her bathrobe and pulled out Karen's panties. If her mother had not been snoring so loudly, Karen would have worried that she was in an alcohol induced coma. Karen pissed for a long time, completely drenching her mother and the bed in warm piss. |
| 03:09.40 | E-rix | Is it not weirder to drink cow's milk which is truly intended for baby cows? The answer: Hell no! The only thing weirder than me drinking breast milk, is the fact that milk is coming out of my wife's chest in the first place. It sure as hell didn't do that when I met her. I'm telling you, the whole thing is lunacy. I love my wife, but does she really have to be such a mammal? |
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| 03:09.58 | E-rix | Why cant the indians be like the blacks, coming to america in white-owned ships to do our work because we're too lazy to do it. Those cheap ass indians hoofed it across some hippy nature bridge |
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| 03:09.59 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 03:10.00 | Parmeggiani | The worst terrorist attack in recorded history occurred just a two and a half years ago, followed by a Holy War against Islam, and now Israel and the Palestinians as well as India and Pakistan are teetering on the brink of their own war, Argentina is in the midst of a financial crisis, America is considering launching attacks against North Korea and Syria, and you people have the gall to be discussing video games???? My *god*, p |
| 03:10.01 | Trenga | Pudge Picnic : chubs on chubs with flab to spare. "No condoms!" yelled, but we don't care! Dude's be fucken, dudes be fucked, dudes be shittin, dudes be sucked. Writhing on the concrete floor, these chubs are sluts. They're obese whores! And gross! They've never taken baths. Too much chili! Awful gas!!! |
| 03:10.02 | WarCraft | Aren't you a bit fucking fat to ride a horse? what gives you the guts to call yourself a cowboy? you probably haven't been outside in so long you probably don't even know what a horse even looks like. cowboy my ASS. you fucking poseur. you are just a nerd. go back to your computers and slashdot. a horse could whop your ass any day. |
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| 03:10.10 | E-rix | Now go back to what you do best, which is apparently poking your nose into others business because you're too bored with your own life. *pets joo* |
| 03:10.11 | NucklearDetector | For the record, If a guy wants to rape you by combining something with Roofies, He's going to use something much more efficent than horse tranquiler or whatever you think us frat boys are using these days, a good rapist is going to use something along the lines of a brick. A simple slab of concrete is actually the most dangerous killer in the sex crime kingdom, one shot to the face with a brick and you will be ugly for life, and those effects ARE |
| 03:10.11 | Trenga | It was a nice day today so I went for a walk outside. As I was walking, I heard somebody crying out in pain so I went to investigate, when I turned the corner I saw a kid that had fallen off his bike and he was grabbing his leg and crying. There was this guy already there and he told me that he was a doctor and he thought this kid had a broken leg. I could tell this guy was lying because he didn't have any white coat, I don't like liars |
| 03:10.11 | Locatelli | it's time for lunch. you'd like to chow. Fraid I've got some bad news right now. The fridge a box of empty space, no sign of eats, not e'en a trace, oh how you'd like a tiny taste, your stomach hurts, you find some Certs, they're gobbled, gone, but breath is fresh, you're nearing death, you're flailing on the kitchen floor, no more! just make the hunger leave, your stomach grieves a SNACK you NEED you've GOT TO FEED YOUR CHEETOS A |
| 03:10.16 | krytarik | !ops spam again.. |
| 03:10.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: krytarik complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:10.16 | Parris | TIP FOR IRCERS #51: Bathe often, as personal odors are offensive to others |
| 03:10.16 | Parmeggiani | So, I was at work yesterday, and I happened to walk by this guy's desk. I noticed on his computer screen that he had his personal E-mails pulled up. I asked him who he thought he was to do this on company time, and then, he told me that his daughter was sick at home, so he was checking up on her. I then punched his computer screen out, and Look him straight in the eye and said, " Who do you think I am? Jerry Lewis? I dont want t |
| 03:10.18 | Prothrow-Stith | Are you wealthy? I'm just curious if this influences your thinking. Is your household income above the median of $51,000/year, or closer to the 90th percentile of household income of just under $125,000/year? |
| 03:10.19 | Safire | I heard this story from an M.D. in Japan. It was during WWII. A bunch of Japanese soldiers had rounded up 3 or 4 Korean women. They proceeded to fuck them in every orifice, but there weren't really enough to go around. So one of the soldiers bayonets one of the girls in the stomach so that he can have a place to fuck too. The feeling was so great that the others all start taking turns in her stomach too. |
| 03:10.26 | E-rix | I have problem with my sister husband. He started about a while back to bring his friend over when he visit to start acting funny with me. Because he is my sister husband I felt I could not refuse it and now it has turn to sexual acts of an improper nature. Although intercourse had never occurred he has shot his sperm on my face, placed objects in my anus and made to drink his urine. How do I stop before things go farther. Thanks. |
| 03:10.28 | Prothrow-Stith | Jeff's balls are about 3 inches in diameter. They are green and hairy. When in public, Jeff will often expose his balls as a way of calming a crowd. Often in a fit of anger Jeff will whip one of his balls at someone who is misbehaving. Most people prefer not to come in contact with Jeff's balls. |
| 03:10.35 | NucklearDetector | whistle core is actually popular in japan it caught quite well and know where seeing various new whistle core bands come out of the country like the blue mist dogs, fire in the attic, lazor beem, robo boy vs the laviathan and various others its just a matter of time till they hit the charts here |
| 03:10.35 | Locatelli | When you see porn and your dick gets hard, try to touch your dick head with your lips. I have licked many times my cockhead in this way. |
| 03:10.37 | Etter | The nigger is a subhuman monkey, ape, Fat lips, kinky hair, VIOLENT, RAPIST, SMALL BRAIN (have you noticed how dumm most niggers are)and broad monstrous noses, car jacking saucer-lipped, ignorant fecal colored, ghetto-living, welfare-leeching, crack-smoking, hub-cap stealing. fried-chicken and biscuit eating, watermelon-stealing, 6-yr-old-white-girl-shooting, serial-killing, rapist, robber, murderer, adulterer, liar, fat-assed, white-woman-wanting, loud-radio-a |
| 03:10.39 | Trenga | How could Sony betray me like this?!? I waited in line for three months--yes, I started the very first line for the PS3 way before anyone else. I endured the elements, the snide comments, and unemployment (I was fired from my job after the first week) because I wanted to be the very first person to play what I imagined would be the salvation to all my dearest dreams. Rumor had it that playing a videogame on the PS3 would be like injectin |
| 03:10.46 | Etter | DonÃât let anybody ever tell you that Japan is just another foreign country. It is much more than that. My story begins in the summer of 1983. I was an expert negotiator, and that was what brought me to an exclusive resort outside of Tokyo. Two large Japanese electronics companies were attempting a merger of some sorts. After two fruitless days of negotiations, I figured out a way to make everybody happy. I made some phone calls, and pretty soon all the exec |
| 03:10.46 | Safire | Hey, faggot! Those assless leather chaps are pissing me off. How can you possibly walk around in public without anything covering your erect cock, and clean shaven balls. I cant believe anyone does this for real! You should find some sort of underwear before I come over and put my hands on your genitalia, to provide some modesty! I will happily stroke your penis so it can be tucked away inside the chaps if you insist, but I'd rather you |
| 03:10.47 | E-rix | Hello. I am interested in various things, which include: Finding out your real life info(s), prank calling you every day, stealing your IRC nickname(s), and finding flaws in your website (i.e. loading popups, etc). |
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| 03:10.51 | Locatelli | Dr. Huxtable broke into the clinic and held me at gunpoint. I was his patient, in for my yearly pap smear. I couldn't believe it when he came in the door for the exam with a machete in his hands. He demanded that I take off my clothes, and begin to fellate him. He waved the machete around like a madman, so i complied. I was forced, at knife point, to take his entire penis into my mouth. Then I rubbed my clit and got off ohh yeah |
| 03:10.59 | Etter | girl, you must be an HTTP status code because all i'm getting is: 402 Payment Required |
| 03:11.00 | NucklearDetector | Now go back to what you do best, which is apparently poking your nose into others business because you're too bored with your own life. *pets joo* |
| 03:11.04 | Locatelli | (ïïïïïïïïï) (ïïïïïïïïï) FOUR HOTDOGS (ïïïïïïïïï) (ïïïïïïïïï) |
| 03:11.04 | Trenga | Michael Jackson touched my junk liberally. he slept with me in bed and he couldnt keep his offensive hands off of me. he was performing many red flag touches. i couldnt believe what the fuck was going on. i told michael the city would not approve of the King of Pop touching an underage kid in bed |
| 03:11.04 | Safire | is it gay that sometimes when i take a shit i get goosebumps all over my body? |
| 03:11.04 | E-rix | You're really a failure at life, you're 290 pounds, you've got horrible back hair, you sweat profusely, staining all your white clothes yellow, and you've killed 3 dogs by anal impaction. |
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| 03:11.19 | Etter | I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it. |
| 03:11.23 | NucklearDetector | Fuck all authority figures of any type. Now instead of hearing the song and letting it pass by you I think we should all rise against and do somin about authority..... and they can feel the rage of OUR generation!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:11.34 | NucklearDetector | hi my names jimmy and im 13 and the other day i was playing with myself while watching showcase and i realised i couldnt quite reach my fireman with my mouth. so what i did was i took a small straw and shoved it down my urethra. and i started to blow really hard.. now i have a small bubble like figure on the side of my fireman.. could this be from blowing into the straw??? |
| 03:11.40 | Etter | This has got to be the worst 'holiday' ever conceived. First, my friends started by playing a mean prank on me, and then even my family got in on the act. They took me out back into the woods, tied me to a tree, and paid a drunken hillbilly to rape me! First he lubed up my asshole with his spit, and then he proceeded to violently penetrate my ass. The stench exuding from his unwashed mountain-man body was overwhelming, and only served to make me sicker than I a |
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| 03:11.56 | Etter | Nigger? So you think you are superior not only because you're white! it's because you read! ha! I didn't know they were people like you in this website, and I hope you learn more about our people, because I'm very ofended now. Racism is illegal, you know? if they were enough technologies to know who is behind that "anonymus", no doubt you would be behind bars now! Please respect others, even if they don't like reading like you do. |
| 03:12.15 | Satterthwaite | When my parents were tight on cash, I attempted to save money on our water bill by pissing in the sink, and shitting on paper plates and dumping them in the field behind our house. |
| 03:12.18 | Kuenzli | I enjoy black butts, butts in my face, butts which haven't been wiped, black dongs in my rectum, big sweaty black balls in my mouth, thick black dongs slapped across my face. I enjoy pressing my face into asses and sniffing them. I can take 2 cocks in my asshole and 3 in my mouth. I lick cocks and butts. I shake my ass in front of people's face before they fuck it hard. I wear a cock ring and enjoy letting people chain me up and piss on me. |
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| 03:12.30 | tw | !op |
| 03:12.35 | Satterthwaite | TO ALL THE BITCHEY 12 YEAR OLD SLIPCOCK FANS..PLEASE SHUT UP BEFORE YOU HURT YOUR SELVES CRYING BLACK EYE SHADOW TEARS OF RAGE OVER MY COMMENTS..OBVIOUSLY YOU NO IM CORRECT OTHERWSIE WHY WOULD YOU SHIT THAT MANY TIMES IN YOUR PANTS OVER MY LONLEY COMMETNS!!YOU FUCK HEADS SHOULD SHUT UP ,QUIT SCHOOL(if you havent allready cause the kids dont ''get'' your wigger,crack smoking nigger/jew fucking, garbage smelling italin ass) AND GET A JOB AT THE CARWA |
| 03:12.37 | tw | !ops |
| 03:12.38 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 03:12.42 | Pederson | I pray to the wonderful Lord Jesus Our Saviour and thank Lord God in the Highest Heaven for all the beauty and love in the world every time I fuck a nun with a glass-covered bone-carved dildo. Tear that dry and wrinkled punani! |
| 03:12.46 | Kuenzli | Your argument is not very compelling. Everyone knows I'm not here to "get down", I'm here specifically to crush you in debate and I'm not going to spend much time here either as I am quickly dulled by this sort of thing. |
| 03:12.55 | rant | !ops spam |
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| 03:14.21 | didi_petet | Go back to jacking off to your anime girls. Leave the real women to real men. |
| 03:14.25 | Po | Me and one of my friends went out today for some dinner so we stopped at a pretty nice restaurant. I don't smoke and most of the time I sit in the non smoking section but I didn't feel like walking to the back of the restaurant today so me and my friend sat at the first table we came to in the smoking section. Since most ppl should be aware that I don't smoke I didn't think I would have any problems. I was wrong. This jerk lit up a ci |
| 03:14.30 | Belloc | When my parents were tight on cash, I attempted to save money on our water bill by pissing in the sink, and shitting on paper plates and dumping them in the field behind our house. |
| 03:14.31 | Theodos | guns work like this - u buy the deagle at the spawn point and u get the headshot |
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| 03:15.32 | Tcherepnin | !ops spam |
| 03:15.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: tcherepnin complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:15.33 | Sharpen | !ops spam |
| 03:15.37 | Temes | !ops spam |
| 03:15.43 | Gill | !ops spam |
| 03:15.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: gill complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:15.46 | Sharpen | !ops spam |
| 03:15.51 | Temes | !ops spam |
| 03:16.01 | Tcherepnin | !ops spam |
| 03:16.01 | Sharpen | !ops spam |
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| 03:16.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: tcherepnin complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:16.08 | Temes | !ops spam |
| 03:16.14 | rant | you guys wre doing a better job before |
| 03:16.15 | Gill | !ops spam |
| 03:16.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: gill complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:16.24 | Sharpen | !ops spam |
| 03:16.28 | Tcherepnin | !ops spam |
| 03:16.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: tcherepnin complains about a problem (see above) |
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| 03:16.31 | Temes | !ops spam |
| 03:16.31 | marioxcc | !ops spam |
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| 03:16.41 | Tcherepnin | !ops spam |
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| 03:16.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: tcherepnin complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:16.43 | Sharpen | !ops spam |
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| 03:16.48 | marioxcc | It seems to be gone now. |
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| 03:16.55 | kakek_peot | !ops spam |
| 03:16.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: kakek_peot complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:16.55 | Viens | !ops spam |
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| 03:17.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: sharpen complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:17.08 | Parmeggiani | !ops spam |
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| 03:17.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: difabio complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:17.20 | Sharpen | !ops spam |
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| 03:17.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: lanzit complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:17.36 | Oksana | Spammers are calling for ops |
| 03:17.37 | Throop | !ops spam |
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| 03:17.53 | Throop | !ops spam |
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| 03:18.00 | Difabio | !ops spam |
| 03:18.03 | Oksana | Spammers are calling for ops |
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| 03:18.22 | Difabio | !ops spam |
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| 03:18.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: difabio complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:18.54 | Lanzit | !ops spam |
| 03:18.54 | Temes | !ops spam |
| 03:18.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: temes complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:18.56 | marioxcc | How does Linux interpret the âroot=â boot parameter when the bootloader loads an initrd? |
| 03:19.04 | Difabio | !ops spam |
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| 03:19.30 | Difabio | !ops spam |
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| 03:23.00 | rant | marioxcc: same as it does when it doesnt load an initrd.. |
| 03:23.02 | grungy | teatime, so why would rpcbind port is open ? |
| 03:23.19 | tw | grungy: do you have nfs installed? |
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| 03:23.37 | grungy | I don't know, I just had the machine today, how do I check ? |
| 03:23.41 | marioxcc | rant: Mounting the root filesystem? But then what happens to the initrd, which is already mounted as the root filesystem? |
| 03:25.12 | rant | marioxcc: ok, well now its a bit more apparent what you're talking about.. ibm has a good overview of this you may find interesting https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-initrd/index.html |
| 03:25.17 | teatime | grungy: presumably for nfs. if you said anything else to me it's lost in the spam. |
| 03:25.40 | tw | grungy: If you're using nfs, it's very likely you'd know. I'd go ahead and turn it off temporarily then see if anything breaks. |
| 03:25.54 | teatime | marioxcc: it's what will eventually be the root filesystem, after pivotroot in initrd |
| 03:26.08 | teatime | marioxcc: it knows if you also specify an initrd it will be the initial root fs |
| 03:26.18 | marioxcc | rant: Thanks, but it does not answer my question (There is no mention of the âroot=â parameter here). |
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| 03:26.42 | teatime | root= what will eventually be the root filesystem, after pivot_root in initrc |
| 03:26.45 | teatime | initrd |
| 03:26.48 | marioxcc | teatime: Ok. |
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| 03:27.01 | rant | marioxcc: root= is the root filesystem you want the kernel to load.. the initrd as the artical clearly says is a transient filesystem.. it is not the actual rootfs |
| 03:27.06 | teatime | all linux kernel command-line args are documented in the documentation directory in kernel source |
| 03:27.19 | marioxcc | teatime: So how does the kernel handle root= in this case? Does it ignore it and pass it to /bin/init (in the initrd)? |
| 03:27.32 | grungy | tw, too risky. I just opened a ticket... |
| 03:27.34 | teatime | in what case? |
| 03:27.45 | rant | you can't get a better explaination than that link.. it explains with and without a root= |
| 03:27.51 | grungy | tw, my goal is to run an IRCD, so basically the only ports I want open are the ircd ones |
| 03:28.00 | marioxcc | teatime: In the case where the bootloader loads an initrd and passes âroot=...â to Linux. |
| 03:28.03 | teatime | grungy: you need to be running a firewall (iptables) |
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| 03:28.44 | teatime | marioxcc: that's the normal case, though. and root= is your real root filesystem. so it should be obvious it works. |
| 03:28.51 | grungy | teatime, What about FirewallD ? |
| 03:29.00 | teatime | grungy: sure, whatever you like. |
| 03:29.22 | grungy | I will need some training on it first... |
| 03:29.57 | marioxcc | grungy: It is obvious that it is supposed to be the eventual root F.S., but it is not obvious how the kernel interprets it. |
| 03:30.06 | marioxcc | sorry, I mean teatime |
| 03:30.28 | teatime | marioxcc: the article rant linked you is decent |
| 03:30.44 | teatime | marioxcc: realize that the kernel knows if there's an initrd or not, it's not *just* at the bootloader level |
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| 03:31.43 | Guest67771 | did you guys hear on the news? usually i don't watch the news, i just heard my friend's brother freaking out about it. it's on right now. North Korea shot a three missiles at Japan, but MISSED!! XD what would happen if they didn't miss?? one of them was aimed for America, too. It's on Fox News right now. THey're talking about shooting back at Korea. STUPID KOREA! dude, manhwa vs manga. XD awesome.what if they actually didn't miss?? what would happen to ever |
| 03:31.54 | Guest67771 | Fact: The word "mizer", traditionally meaning a one who is excessively frugal, was originally short for "sodomizer". This is because in the 18th century it was routine, and even expected, that the Comptroller of a business would punish wastefulness by engaging in mandatory buggery. |
| 03:31.59 | Demusz | I see what you are trying to do and I advise you to stop at once. You may think your Mr. Slick and that you have some kind of advantage over me in this situation but you couldn't be further from the truth. Just because you got a higher score on the SAT does not mean that you are intellectually superior to me. I have 3 degrees in physics and biomedical engineering and I just canÃât believe that you try and pull something like this o |
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| 03:32.04 | Ybarra | girl u must be aol instant messenger because i'd like to see all of my buddies on you |
| 03:32.17 | Ybarra | I bet you think you're actually amusing. You were giggling to yourself as you typed that line out, and are eagerly staring at your screen hoping that someone will give you a zany quip in reply. Go on, you can laugh. It's okay. Just remember that you're the only one who thought that comment was in any way entertaining. |
| 03:32.19 | Metropolis | Making headlines across America is the Terri Shiavo case. This poor woman is in a persistent vegetative state and the husband selfishly wishes for her feeding tube to be left removed. This is appalling, not to just me, but to the many Americans that feel she should be allowed to live. www.terrisfight.org is a prime example. The husband seems to be missing the larger picture here, she is still biologically functional, meaning that her vaginal orifice i |
| 03:32.22 | Guest67771 | <3 BUSH, ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERZ, NEW WORLD ORDER, MITE MAKEZ RITE, THE SWORD CHOPZ OFF THE ARM HOLDING THE PEN, MANIFEZT DESTINY, REPREZENTIN' DA ZOG CLIQUE, MACHIVELLIAN, DIDN'T NEED 2 SERVE IN VIETNAM TO BOMB DA KORAN, BANG BANG, IRAQ THE NEW SOVIET BLOC, GUN-BARREL DIPLOMACY, VOTE NADER VOTE NADER VOTE NADER |
| 03:32.24 | Demusz | "Star Wars" was the highlight of my abusive childhoo. My father brutally belted me frequently, and the rest of the family, a term which I use very loosely, just hid what he did to me. |
| 03:32.35 | teatime | leaves because spam, sorry guys |
| 03:32.53 | marioxcc | teatime: Yes, I know that. You did not really answer my question. Apparently I will have to read the source code as the actual meaning of the boot parameters is effectively undocumented. |
| 03:32.58 | PlasmaStar | Is Unit193 a robot? :( |
| 03:33.03 | Unit193 | Yes, PlasmaStar.; |
| 03:33.05 | marioxcc | There is this: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt but it does not say anything useful. |
| 03:33.10 | PlasmaStar | omg |
| 03:33.37 | teatime | marioxcc: or you can read the article you were linked |
| 03:33.53 | rant | marioxcc: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/initrd.html#usage-scenarios |
| 03:34.07 | rant | is probably more conciise for what this user is asking |
| 03:37.17 | marioxcc | I have a broad idea of the boot process; that is not the problem. The articles you linked describe the boot process, but say little about my question. |
| 03:37.35 | marioxcc | (21:18:56) marioxcc: How does Linux interpret the âroot=â boot parameter when the bootloader loads an initrd? |
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| 03:41.18 | Oksana | suspects incoming spam |
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| 03:43.31 | Oksana | https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/10-boot-time-parameters-you-should-know-about-the-linux-kernel.html root=/dev/device This argument tells the kernel what device (hard disk, floppy disk) to be used as the root filesystem while booting. For example following boot parameter use /dev/sda1 as the root file |
| 03:43.31 | Oksana | on from /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1 then use root=/dev/sdb1 |
| 03:43.31 | Oksana | system: root=/dev/sda1 If you copy entire partiti |
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| 03:45.55 | marioxcc | Oksana: Correct. I already know that. I am asking for a detail that is not covered in that article. |
| 03:46.00 | Oksana | Also see http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0501.3/1144.html about root parameter |
| 03:47.07 | Oksana | has no idea about boot parameters, just looking for some detailed description of what it may be |
| 03:47.59 | marioxcc | Oksana: Nevermind; thanks for replying. I found something relevant in the source code <https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/main.c#n1090> |
| 03:48.05 | Oksana | https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/initrd.html |
| 03:48.17 | marioxcc | Unfortunately, like nearly all software, Linux is mostly undocumented garbage. |
| 03:48.51 | marioxcc | Oksana: Yes, I have read that one already, thanks. |
| 03:48.53 | marioxcc | :) |
| 03:49.11 | CoolSkeleton95 | I was not lied to |
| 03:49.18 | CoolSkeleton95 | The spam here is quite interesting |
| 03:50.16 | rant | CoolSkeleton95: told ya :P |
| 03:50.30 | CoolSkeleton95 | :V |
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| 03:50.51 | Julious | Actually, it is incorrect to call me a 'know-it-all' because God is the only one that knows everything. |
| 03:50.57 | Dhiafah | Fly catching is a hobby of mine. Whenever I successfully catch a fly, I go into the bathroom and I fill the bathtub up with warm water till it's deep enough that only the head of my penis sticks out of the water. Next, I rip the wings off of the fly and place the fly upon the tip of my Cock--the penis "head". Not having anywhere to go, the cute lil fly runs around upon the tip of my Cock, creating a most arousing sensation.Try it yourself !! |
| 03:50.59 | Oksana | applauds |
| 03:50.59 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 03:51.02 | Julious | You can spot a Nintendo 64 game from a mile away. If the textures look like they were photographed with a cell phone camera, copied to VHS tape, copied to another VHS tape, imported into the computer and saved as a low quality JPEG, and then the computer was chucked into a fire, you know you're playing a Nintendo 64 game. |
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| 03:51.12 | CoolSkeleton95 | According to all known levels of aviation... |
| 03:51.15 | CoolSkeleton95 | :P |
| 03:51.38 | CoolSkeleton95 | I'm actually laughing at this, well done |
| 03:51.42 | Oksana | Dhiafah, too |
| 03:51.53 | CoolSkeleton95 | ? |
| 03:52.00 | Oksana | is selectively event-blind |
| 03:52.06 | CoolSkeleton95 | It seems they left on their own... |
| 03:52.19 | rant | CoolSkeleton95: #debian-offtopic or back to #freenode for the commentary please ;) |
| 03:52.45 | themill | no, ##comment-on-spam; neither of the other two are right |
| 03:52.47 | metxn | ;) |
| 03:53.09 | CoolSkeleton95 | Correct, my channel list is on the left |
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| 04:49.38 | grungy | Is this normal guys ? |
| 04:49.44 | grungy | Jan 24 04:15:01 server10237 CRON[6471]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened f or user daemon by (uid=0) |
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| 04:51.15 | Oksana | grungy : https://superuser.com/questions/236479/pam-unixcronsession-session-opened-for-user-root-by-uid-0 Hourly? |
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| 04:53.15 | grungy | Thank you, but that does not explain what is it |
| 04:56.04 | Oksana | Do you have a way to see cronjobs in /etc/crontab or something? |
| 04:57.03 | Oksana | If you look for something like # m h dom mon dow user command and see a job assigned to "daemon" user... |
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| 04:59.13 | Oksana | has no idea how cron works, though |
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| 05:01.43 | jelly | grungy, if it's a package you're more likely to find the job definition under /etc/cron.d/ |
| 05:03.10 | grungy | I have no daemon user.. |
| 05:03.14 | grungy | I have one user on the machine |
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| 05:04.29 | grungy | Ok |
| 05:04.36 | grungy | I found "debsecan" |
| 05:04.58 | grungy | in /etc/cron.d# |
| 05:05.18 | grungy | I installed debsecan and uninstalled it |
| 05:05.27 | grungy | Its cron was not uninstalled ? |
| 05:05.56 | jelly | you probably did not purge the package |
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| 05:06.44 | grungy | how do I go about this |
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| 05:07.03 | jelly | apt-get purge packagename or dpkg -P packagename |
| 05:07.12 | jelly | !purge |
| 05:07.13 | dpkg | "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» (note: before wheezy, you can't 'apt-get purge' a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>. |
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| 05:08.21 | grungy | Nice |
| 05:09.00 | grungy | It worked and took it off from /etc/cron.d |
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| 05:09.12 | grungy | Should I basically purge each time I am removing a package ? |
| 05:12.03 | jelly | in most situations yes. An exception might be if you had customized global config and you might reinstall at some point in the future |
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| 05:12.54 | meta-coder | Hello, I have an idea! |
| 05:13.04 | Oksana | Hi |
| 05:14.03 | Oksana | meta-coder : what's the idea? |
| 05:14.44 | meta-coder | In package metadata we have Description, Homepage etc. We can add two more fields: Mailing-List and Mailing-List-Archive. |
| 05:15.32 | Oksana | ...Don't we already have something about bugtracker, in package metadata? Mailing list could be put here? |
| 05:16.47 | meta-coder | Many projects use mailing-lists. It would be convenient if I can get the mailing list and archive URLs by just doing apt-cache show <pkg> |
| 05:16.57 | Oksana | thinks that it is possible to add more fields into package metadata without having to coordinate this with anybody else, just don't expect the fields to become popular or standard. |
| 05:17.43 | meta-coder | yes, not all packages have MLs, but many and all important ones do. |
| 05:17.57 | jelly | meta-coder, if Debian uses a mailing list to manage a package you'll usually find it under Maintainer |
| 05:18.24 | jelly | are you asking about upstream resources? |
| 05:18.45 | Oksana | You can use custom fields, I think, like extensions of standard. If it becomes popular, more programs will support it? |
| 05:18.47 | meta-coder | jelly: oh yes, but I am talking about upstream MLs |
| 05:19.04 | Oksana | Like Maemo extensions, I think: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging/Guidelines#Control_files_and_their_fields |
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| 05:21.32 | jelly | meta-coder, and why should this particular tidbit be shipped with every binary package? If you want more links to upstream resources, add them to tracker.debian.org |
| 05:22.49 | meta-coder | Right now, I have to hunt the lists and archives of each project using Google. |
| 05:23.21 | meta-coder | Those packages which have upstream lists will have the fields in their metadata. |
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| 05:24.54 | jelly | I still don't see how that's better than looking it up in one place. |
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| 05:25.52 | meta-coder | If you add it to package metadata it will be available offline <apt-cache show> and tracker.debian.org will mention these same fields as well. |
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| 05:26.46 | jelly | and what use is knowing where ml archive is, when you're offline? |
| 05:26.51 | meta-coder | If you just add them to tracker.debian.org externally, it won't be embedded in the package and package lists. |
| 05:27.24 | Adie | Hi, after doing a dist-upgrade, my apt-get update no longer works right https://pastebin.com/raw/EPBtvFYK |
| 05:27.26 | meta-coder | jelly: The same rationale behind the Homepage: field applies. |
| 05:27.58 | jelly | meta-coder, I just don't think it's worth polluting the control any further than what's already there. |
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| 05:28.58 | meta-coder | jelly: Why? This is not "polluting." |
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| 05:29.39 | meta-coder | Many times lists and archives are hosted at very different domains than project homepages. |
| 05:30.02 | meta-coder | jelly: "polluting" is a very poor excuse. |
| 05:30.05 | jelly | many times upstream has a dozen different lists |
| 05:30.09 | DerLGm | meta-coder: why not a mailing list standalone archive utility |
| 05:30.44 | Oksana | meta-coder : I agree that writing emails [and letting them be in Outbox till Internet is reached] is more comfortable when emails are already available [without having to go to tracker.debian.org ] |
| 05:31.26 | jelly | Oksana, when was the last time you sent a mail to authors of some app |
| 05:31.43 | Oksana | But first, learn how to use tracker.debian.org [instead of Google]. Then, learn how to store tracker's data for offline usage. Afterwards, write an apt-addressbook plugin for that |
| 05:31.45 | jelly | this isn't 1993. |
| 05:31.53 | Oksana | jelly: Let me check... |
| 05:32.39 | meta-coder | jelly: we can decide which list to include. Whether the user-focused one or instead we can use link to the page which lists all lists. |
| 05:33.29 | Oksana | jelly : I sent an email on 14th of April 2017, granted I didn't get a reply |
| 05:34.25 | Oksana | I did get a reply to the email I sent on second of November 2016, though |
| 05:34.39 | meta-coder | Oksana: Including something in package metadata will also trivially be included in tracker.debian.org. And don't forget about tons of Debian derivatives. Including in package metadata will benefit all derivatives as well. |
| 05:34.45 | jelly | so... one successful message per year |
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| 05:36.21 | meta-coder | DerLGm: I didn't get your point. |
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| 05:37.32 | themill | We should be putting less information in the Packages file not more. Stale information in there is already a serious problem |
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| 05:37.41 | jelly | meta-coder, I still think said metadata is already full of barely useful info and lots of it might be better kept on the side, instead of debian/control and everywhere it gets replicated |
| 05:38.29 | Oksana | meta-coder : While I would love to know full name, postal address, birthday, email, and such of each developer of every package I have installed, I have to say that such information belongs in addressbook. Similarly, mailing list, and mailing list archive, while not private information of one |
| 05:39.36 | meta-coder | jelly: what in the metadata is currently not useful? |
| 05:40.20 | Oksana | It would be nice to have them in a database which is being stored offline, and updated regularly from online sources, but it doesn't have to be in apt |
| 05:40.20 | Oksana | person, may still be aggregated in some bug-reporting plugin, instead of package manager, since they aren't relevant to apt's usual operations. |
| 05:41.11 | meta-coder | There is also another problem of changelogs. Like we have Filename: uri, we should also have a Changelog: uri. Changelog of all third-party repos are broken. |
| 05:41.13 | jelly | meta-coder, all the Homepage, VCS stuff could be kept in tracker.d.o |
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| 05:41.50 | meta-coder | jelly: what about all Debian derivatives? |
| 05:42.15 | jelly | anyone can access it |
| 05:42.28 | themill | Derivatives don't use the Packages file. |
| 05:42.52 | meta-coder | No, there packages will be different and they will have to setup their own tracker.*. |
| 05:43.11 | meta-coder | Having it offline is much better. |
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| 05:43.35 | jelly | it's not much better, it's just handy |
| 05:43.58 | meta-coder | jelly: that's why it's better :) |
| 05:43.59 | Oksana | Why their own tracker.*.* ? Which fields would be different? |
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| 05:44.41 | jelly | meta-coder, good luck convincing DDs with that :-) |
| 05:45.29 | meta-coder | Oksana: anything of a package can be different in a derivative. |
| 05:46.38 | meta-coder | Changelogs is another problem. |
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| 05:50.11 | DerLGm | Sudo apt install mailinglist-finder |
| 05:50.31 | DerLGm | meta-coder: ^^^ something like that |
| 05:51.09 | DerLGm | And then it's up to the user to configure its Cron and other settings |
| 05:52.00 | jelly | meta-coder, upstream's mailing lists and archives won't magically change just because your build comes from a derivative, you can still look it up on tracker.d.o if you provide it there. |
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| 05:53.09 | meta-coder | jelly: packages can be split/merged in a derivative, so they can change the metadata fields accordingly. |
| 05:53.57 | meta-coder | Derivatives reuse the architecture of Debian and not necessarily the packages as it is in Debian. |
| 05:54.04 | jelly | meta-coder, so what? Look up source. |
| 05:54.45 | jelly | meta-coder, surely a derivative can figure out where they got a package from and point their user the right way. |
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| 05:55.45 | jelly | if they don't know which debian source package their stuff comes from... maybe you shouldn't use that derivative, reproducibility is going to be nil |
| 05:57.35 | meta-coder | that's why they may want to change package metadata and they should be able to. |
| 05:58.12 | jelly | nothing stops them from doing it right now |
| 05:59.14 | meta-coder | if it is not included in the metadata and only included on tracker.d.o, they don't benefit from it. |
| 05:59.29 | Oksana | notes that probably nothing stops a developer from adding extra field or two to metadata of their package |
| 05:59.50 | Oksana | meta-coder : just write an app for offline storage of tracker.d.o |
| 06:00.05 | jelly | meta-coder, bullshit, you just said a derivative can change anything they want, so which is it, do they only benefit if Debian adds more info, or do they do their own work |
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| 06:00.31 | meta-coder | Oksana: that's what I am proposing that Debian do. |
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| 06:01.07 | meta-coder | jelly: you are confusing between architecture and content. Architecture cannot be easily change, but content can be. |
| 06:01.17 | meta-coder | *changed |
| 06:02.10 | jelly | meta-coder, that would make sense if I didn't know how easy it is to change text files. |
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| 06:03.32 | jelly | honestly, what you're proposing sounds like "let's make maintainers have to care about EVEN MORE info" + "let's do it in the worst possible way, adding crap to control files" |
| 06:04.24 | jelly | if it's availability of the info you want, I'd say work with Debian to add it somewhere else |
| 06:06.15 | meta-coder | Why did changelogs and screenshots not become popular? because they were not included in the architecture, and remained external and specific to Debian. |
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| 06:07.10 | jelly | how do you measure "popular" |
| 06:07.22 | meta-coder | Look at all mainstream app stores. All of them have screenshots, changelogs. |
| 06:07.52 | jelly | should we put base64 screenshots in control? |
| 06:08.22 | alkisg | Doesn't https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/ take care of screenshots and metadata in a cross-distro way? |
| 06:08.26 | jelly | make Packages files 20x larger? |
| 06:08.26 | meta-coder | jelly: put a URI to the screenshot, like you have Filename: |
| 06:08.51 | meta-coder | not popular = broken in all derivatives and third-party repos. |
| 06:08.54 | jelly | meta-coder, but that doesn't work offline! |
| 06:09.23 | meta-coder | jelly: but it is now part of the architecture and not specific to Debian. |
| 06:09.28 | jelly | clearly we should just embed it. |
| 06:09.59 | meta-coder | third-party repos now can supply their changelogs, screenshots too. |
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| 06:10.09 | jelly | meta-coder, except you wanted stuff to work offline, so let's take it to the logical conclusion... |
| 06:10.44 | meta-coder | jelly: including it in architecture comes first, then comes online-offline. |
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| 06:11.27 | Unit193 | Reeeally doesn't make too much sense to use the package manager offline, as one wouldn't be able to download the package in most cases (I am aware apt-offline exists, but of course wouldn't do much meta or screenshots.) |
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| 06:12.23 | meta-coder | Look at how useful apt-file is. It works in derivatives too because it is part of the structure. |
| 06:13.56 | jelly | no, it works because those derivatives don't have broken repos |
| 06:14.56 | meta-coder | jelly: why doesn't changelog/screenshot work in third party repos? |
| 06:15.37 | Unit193 | Because those repos don't set changelog, or provide appstream data? |
| 06:16.37 | jelly | meta-coder, why should it? |
| 06:16.48 | meta-coder | Unit193: set changelog where? |
| 06:18.57 | Unit193 | meta-coder: http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/Release: Changelogs: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/@CHANGEPATH@_changelog |
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| 06:19.21 | meta-coder | jelly: Look at Google Play Store, Apple Store, and ask yourself why is FOSS not at par with it? |
| 06:19.54 | Shmam | How do I install Wine on my 64 bit Debian 9 computer? the install guide says to add the i386 arch to dpkg |
| 06:19.58 | Shmam | should I do that? |
| 06:20.19 | jelly | meta-coder, those don't have mailing list addresses or decent changelogs, either |
| 06:20.35 | Shmam | I dont want a franken debian again |
| 06:21.48 | meta-coder | Unit193: Ok, but a bit weird |
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| 06:22.44 | meta-coder | Unit193: Similarly a parametrized URL to directory of screenshots can be added. |
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| 06:23.54 | meta-coder | jelly: F-Droid is doing good. |
| 06:24.04 | Unit193 | meta-coder: It's been mentioned several times, but so far it seems like you've ignored every mention of appstream.. |
| 06:24.30 | Shmam | Hello? |
| 06:24.31 | meta-coder | Unit193: Sorry, I'll take a look. |
| 06:24.48 | Shmam | is "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" safe on a 64 bit machine? |
| 06:24.55 | Shmam | will it cause any problems? |
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| 06:26.07 | jelly | Shmam, it won't |
| 06:26.13 | Shmam | ok ty |
| 06:26.31 | Shmam | also getting this message: File âRelease.keyâ already there; not retrieving. when doing: "wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/Release.key" |
| 06:26.53 | Shmam | should I delete the current Release.key that I have? |
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| 06:27.16 | jelly | you're not adding any _new_ repos with --add-architecture, just telling dpkg and apt to accept installation of a second architecture |
| 06:27.34 | jelly | !multiarch |
| 06:27.34 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 06:27.35 | Shmam | ok gotcha |
| 06:27.48 | Shmam | but what about the release.key thing? |
| 06:27.57 | Shmam | can I delete the one I currently have to get this new one? |
| 06:28.24 | jelly | where is this file stored? |
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| 06:28.41 | Shmam | ~/Release.key |
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| 06:28.51 | Shmam | so /home/USER/Release.key |
| 06:29.03 | jelly | you can do whatever you want with files in your home dir, Shmam |
| 06:29.08 | Shmam | k |
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| 07:08.50 | nirakara | !aptitude clone |
| 07:08.50 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
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| 07:09.18 | buanzo | que onda guachos |
| 07:09.36 | bazhang | buanzo, english here please |
| 07:12.59 | orb | !aptitude things to backup |
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| 07:14.48 | bazhang | ,v etckeeper |
| 07:14.49 | judd | Package: etckeeper on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.63; jessie: 1.15; stretch: 1.18.5-1; buster: 1.18.7-1; sid: 1.18.7-1 |
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| 07:18.19 | nirakara | !aptitude clone |
| 07:18.19 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
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| 07:21.40 | nirakara | that aptitude clone help text is, like, the best thing ever(tm) |
| 07:21.53 | nirakara | <3 Debian |
| 07:22.34 | nirakara | Iridos: thanks for your help yesterday. I disabled mirrors when installing from xfce netinst, and reenabled/installed wifi drivers once i was into the system |
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| 08:13.45 | valdez | hi. is it possible to somehow boot a full-blown livecd via PXE? |
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| 08:24.41 | JustASlacker | sure |
| 08:25.18 | JustASlacker | pxe will boot kernel and deliver the rest via nfs or even https |
| 08:27.56 | alkisg | valdez: I've written a script to netboot the ubuntu live cd from the ubuntu live cd, check the "automation script" section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot |
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| 08:28.58 | valdez | awesome, thank you |
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| 08:31.05 | JustASlacker | <3 PXE |
| 08:31.30 | JustASlacker | I had some trouble with network boots and UEFI |
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| 08:36.42 | valdez | it seems that, according to /proc/filesystems of the kernel loaded by the stock netboot, it doesn't support nfs... |
| 08:37.20 | JustASlacker | there usually is a pxe kernel |
| 08:37.34 | alkisg | valdez: nfsclient is usually included in the initramfs, but not in the booted live media |
| 08:38.19 | alkisg | valdez: which one are you trying, jessie? |
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| 08:40.10 | valdez | no, stretch |
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| 08:40.50 | alkisg | Put break=bottom in the kernel command line to get a shell inside the initramfs |
| 08:40.58 | alkisg | There, type "nfsclient" and see if it's there |
| 08:41.23 | valdez | alright |
| 08:41.44 | Unit193 | Been a while since I did PXE booting, but I did it with serving the squashfs over smb. |
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| 08:46.24 | alkisg | valdez: btw, you do know about ltsp.org which netboots normal installations and not live cds, right? |
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| 08:49.22 | valdez | alkisg: not really, no. look, the whole task is as follows: make a pxe-based mostly-automated install process for debian stretch on zfs root, with optional megacli (lsi megaraid too) wizardry for preparing disks as jbod |
| 08:49.47 | valdez | i want to netboot a livecd because it will be easier to install megacli there |
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| 08:49.53 | valdez | and script the whole thing |
| 08:50.08 | alkisg | valdez: wouldn't that be easier with netboot+preseeding? |
| 08:50.59 | valdez | i'm not sure how preseeding could help with getting megacli, zfs dkms, and zfs utils to prepare stuff before debianinstaller starts its work |
| 08:51.01 | alkisg | And of course you could make your own `pxe boot + copy a template installation + some postinst for hostname` method... |
| 08:51.24 | alkisg | I believe preseeding does have hooks for that |
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| 08:57.17 | valdez | alkisg: preseeding helps with automation (answering). but i'm not savvy enough with debian install process to figure out how to bring zfs stuff from the official contrib repo there |
| 08:57.21 | valdez | any ideas? |
| 08:57.50 | alkisg | valdez: afaik preseeding has hook points for downloading and running your own scripts |
| 08:58.04 | alkisg | So from those scripts, you can do whatever you like, e.g. install new programs or configure file systems |
| 08:58.57 | alkisg | I'm not fluent with preseeding though so I can't give you the exact syntax etc; I'm mostly using ltsp for netbooted systems. |
| 08:59.08 | valdez | what mechanisms does it provide for that downloading/installing? |
| 08:59.35 | valdez | the netboot system has no dpkg or apt as far as i can tell, only this 'anna' castrate |
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| 09:03.21 | alkisg | valdez: for example, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apbs05.html.en => # Most flexibly of all, this downloads a program and runs it. The program |
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| 09:08.34 | l9 | so here is a quick NFS question i have two shares that i want to export to xx:xx:xx::/64 on the freebsd host one of the shares always falls out when both are exported to the same network, how should one adress having multiple exports to the same network ? |
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| 09:09.20 | l9 | knows that it is a long shot asking here ;) |
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| 09:26.24 | hexhaxtron | I'm offering free SSH accounts to people. Any tips to monitor the system and users? |
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| 09:34.10 | Iridos | depends what you want to monitor? |
| 09:34.15 | tarzeau | hexhaxtron: where can i request one? |
| 09:34.35 | Iridos | I'd rather use cgroups than ulimits for e.g. memory |
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| 09:40.52 | l9 | so anyone running debian nfs server here that wants to test something for me? :) create two dirs /tmp/test and /tmp/test1 and share them both with -network x.x.x/24 are you abel to share both ? I think i might have found a NFS bug but not certain if it is just a freebsd bug or a NFS |
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| 09:43.03 | tarzeau | l9: you mean with /etc/exports ? |
| 09:43.41 | l9 | yeah |
| 09:43.54 | tarzeau | l9: man exports clearly shows that notation, can you paste your exactl exports line? |
| 09:46.57 | l9 | sure |
| 09:46.57 | l9 | /tmp/test -network xx:xx:xx::/64 -maproot=muad |
| 09:46.57 | l9 | /tmp/test1 -network xx:xx:xx::/64 -maproot=muad |
| 09:46.57 | l9 | those are for the ipv6 network :) havent tested it with ipv4 but has seen the same happening on 4 |
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| 09:57.31 | valdez | alkisg: break=bottom does nothing for me |
| 09:57.51 | alkisg | valdez: man initramfs-tools, it's there |
| 09:58.06 | valdez | what is? |
| 09:58.41 | l9 | tarzeau: found the error you cant have the share on different lines you need to have them like this dir1 dir2 -network :) |
| 09:59.25 | alkisg | valdez: what break=bottom does in the kernel command line |
| 09:59.30 | alkisg | Maybe you didn't use it correctly |
| 09:59.38 | valdez | maybe, hold on a sec |
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| 10:00.00 | tarzeau | l9: see, not a bug :) |
| 10:00.13 | valdez | here's part of the pxelinux config: append initrd=stock/initrd.gz panic=30 auto break=bottom |
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| 10:02.24 | l9 | tarzeau: hehe that is why i ask more than one person to confirm ;) haha |
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| 10:09.23 | alkisg | valdez: what does "auto" do? do you mean ip=auto? |
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| 10:27.19 | toolz | Hi, I got an iscsi lun and I am trying to create lvms on it, I have created pv and vg, but lvms : device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: Invalid argument - dmesg: device-mapper: table: 253:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed, device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table. Here is pvdisplay and vgdisplay (dmsetup shows no table) https://pastebin.com/Xcz8jZJh |
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| 10:27.34 | toolz | I have no idea why this is happening I am using debian 8.10 |
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| 10:30.12 | valdez | alkisg: no clue really, i just added to the line written long before me by other employees |
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| 10:36.31 | JustASlacker | anybody ever had the problem of systemd killing a mysql because a timeout was exceeded? |
| 10:36.49 | JustASlacker | although while the start command waits, I can connect to and use the database fine |
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| 12:19.48 | _raven__ | hi |
| 12:19.56 | _raven__ | do you know any way of connecting to another site with failsave timeouts which can last up to half an hour? i know it is not the meaning of vpn to catch up bad network connections but any workaround possible to keep up ssh/rsync sessions and such? |
| 12:20.50 | alkisg | The tcp timeout is 2h 11m... more than half an hour |
| 12:20.51 | shtrb | _raven__, are you asking how to increment the local timeout to prevent disconnects ? |
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| 12:21.14 | numbdewd | "failsave timeouts"? |
| 12:21.22 | numbdewd | keep-alive..? hmh =s |
| 12:21.26 | shtrb | you have settup under net.ipv4.* that can adjust values (depending on the stack ) |
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| 12:21.42 | SpamTroll | hello all. get fukt. |
| 12:22.06 | slax0r | o.O |
| 12:22.15 | shtrb | Thanks ! we do need to have some fun |
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| 12:33.08 | _raven__ | shtrb: i do not know the exact cause now but i get random disconnects between two dialup networks connecting via dyndns (yeah i know :/) and a net to net vpn. randomly it just is disconnected very long and all transferes of course crash |
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| 12:34.06 | _raven__ | dont know if its disconnect itself or a crash due to ip change or timeout at all |
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| 12:38.03 | shtrb | Start with setting up a keep alive on the ssh tunnel level |
| 12:38.09 | shtrb | if that's ssh |
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| 12:39.10 | shtrb | _raven__, can you verify it's not a delay issue ? (do a ping to your server and check if after some time it seems that the TTL rises or pings are not sent at all for a while) |
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| 12:53.44 | tdn | What is the easiest way of converting a bunch of .flac audio files into .mp3 on Debian while keeping all the metadata tags such as artist, song name, etc. and keeping file names (e.g. filenames will be *.flac -> *.mp3) and without being prompted for anything? |
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| 12:55.46 | BanHammor | tdn, probably a bash script using ffmpeg. do you know how to write those? |
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| 12:56.57 | tdn | BanHammor, I know how to write bash/zsh scripts. However, I am not very familiar with ffmpegs plethora of options. And I am hoping for an app to do this as handling errors, edge cases, etc. in shellscripts may prove difficult. |
| 12:57.49 | dTal | So I'm installing Debian on the second hard drive of a computer that already has windows installed on the first one. Is there a way to specify that I'd like GRUB to be installed to the *second* hard drive's MBR, not the first's? |
| 12:58.05 | dTal | I do not want to touch the Windows drive at all. |
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| 12:59.29 | tdn | dTal, I think you are asked where to install GRUB as one of the final steps during install |
| 12:59.52 | tdn | dTal, but if you want to be safe, you should unplug the drive you do not want to touch |
| 13:00.18 | BanHammor | tdn, probably soundconverter then |
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| 13:00.29 | dTal | Ah. Well, I was prompted to install GRUB to "the" MBR. I just selected "no" and continued, and now I am being prompted for a location. |
| 13:00.59 | dTal | That could be clearer, but it seems to be the thing. |
| 13:02.24 | dTal | "Missing operating system". Well shit. |
| 13:03.00 | dTal | At least windows boots. |
| 13:03.08 | tdn | BanHammor, looks like the right tool except from it only seeming to support ogg, wav, flac and opus as output formats. No MP3. Any way to install mp3 support? |
| 13:06.05 | tdn | BanHammor, found out how. WOW! This is exactly what I need. :) |
| 13:06.14 | BanHammor | ayyy i'm glad |
| 13:06.29 | BanHammor | still would've written bash scripts myself :P |
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| 13:08.09 | darxmurf | same :-) |
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| 13:10.59 | dTal | So, it appears that despite being asked where GRUB should be installed to, no GRUB was installed? Should I have selected "yes" on "install grub to MBR"? |
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| 13:12.05 | petn-randall | dTal: If you responded "no" to installing grub, then it won't be installed. |
| 13:13.21 | dTal | That's extremely confusing. |
| 13:14.25 | dTal | If it is not going to be installed, it should not ask me where to install it. If there is a choice as to where to install it, it should not ask me if I want to install to "the" master boot record. |
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| 13:16.21 | petn-randall | dTal: Wait, it asked you if you wanted to install grub, then it responded with a follow-up question where to install it? |
| 13:16.31 | dTal | That's right. |
| 13:16.49 | BanHammor | can i run debian in docker with systemd? (and, obviously, should I?) |
| 13:18.07 | _raven__ | tdn: winff |
| 13:18.41 | BanHammor | I'm asking because invoke-rc.d triggers fail as "unable to determine runlevel" |
| 13:19.13 | _raven__ | or just something like "(ffmpeg|avconv) -i IN.flac -vn -q:a 0 dest.mp3" |
| 13:19.54 | petn-randall | dTal: I'd file a bug against the installer then. |
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| 13:23.53 | shtrb | Anyone else started to get acpi LNXPOWER:XX: Turning OFF messages after intel's bios upgrade ? |
| 13:24.31 | shtrb | I see 4.15 is going to ignore it, but what is the implication of this error ? |
| 13:24.43 | valdez | are there any live cd images of stretch without the desktop environment? |
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| 13:25.34 | gpunk | valdez: I dont think so |
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| 14:16.31 | BanHammor | hey, my debian install in Docker offered me to autoremove some packages. It failed, and now it tries autoremoving them again and again when i try to do anything else with apt-get. |
| 14:16.44 | BanHammor | How do I tell it to stop trying? |
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| 14:19.35 | petn-randall | BanHammor: You probably have apt configured to autoremove packages? It should be somewhere in /etc/apt/. Alternatively, just mark the package(s) you want to keep with 'apt install <package>'. |
| 14:21.19 | BanHammor | petn-randall, i already did, and STILL it tries |
| 14:21.47 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 14:21.47 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 14:22.28 | petn-randall | BanHammor: Can you provide the above? Including 'dpkg -l | grep <package>' for a package that is being removed. |
| 14:23.44 | BanHammor | ...okay i think i fixed it by forcing reinstall of the package |
| 14:23.50 | BanHammor | *packages |
| 14:23.57 | BanHammor | thanks |
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| 14:33.40 | nirakara | is there any way to enable Coasting when scrolling on stretch, when using libinput? |
| 14:33.52 | nirakara | is there some guide that shows how to get your touchpad perfect |
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| 14:40.44 | nirakara | this feature is sometimes also called 'kinetic scrolling' |
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| 14:41.42 | nirakara | according freedesktop.org, libinput leaves kinetic scrolling to the client because there was an unfixable bug which had to do with moving the cursor to another window while scroll events were still being sent |
| 14:42.25 | nirakara | but all this doesn't help me much with determining how to enable it on my stretch laptop |
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| 15:12.02 | nirakara | *bump* does anyone know how to enable kinetic scrolling/coasting with libinput on stretch? |
| 15:12.45 | eck | try #xorg or #xorg-devel? |
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| 15:15.15 | nirakara | thanks eck, will take a look. is wayland/xinput part of xorg? |
| 15:15.37 | eck | i've gotten help from #wayland on freenode before |
| 15:15.43 | eck | but i don't know how it relates to xinput |
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| 15:16.43 | nirakara | eck: does stretch ship with wayland or xorg? |
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| 15:17.05 | eck | i'm not sure i don't run debian on the desktop, you can tell from ps though |
| 15:17.15 | eck | look for a wayland or xwayland process |
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| 15:17.18 | eck | case insensitive ofc |
| 15:17.33 | eck | iirc it sets some stuff in your env too |
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| 15:23.12 | FightingFalcon | i want to install debian from the usb. SHould i download cd or dvd iso? |
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| 15:24.52 | petn-randall | FightingFalcon: Personally I'd use the netinstaller, but either one works. Anything not on the image will be downloaded from the internet. |
| 15:25.18 | FightingFalcon | How do i know that debian installer recognize my wireless card? |
| 15:25.46 | eck | you'll know if you have see your wireless device when installing debian |
| 15:26.43 | FightingFalcon | really? i didnt know that hm |
| 15:27.49 | impermanence | How can I grab a .deb or .dpkg or whatever is used in debian, not install it, but still be able to compare it to another installation? |
| 15:27.50 | impermanence | of the same package? |
| 15:27.54 | petn-randall | FightingFalcon: most wifi devices need firmware, if you need it *during* installation, use the firmware installer. |
| 15:28.01 | petn-randall | !firmware installer |
| 15:28.02 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 15:28.15 | FightingFalcon | thanks |
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| 15:28.41 | petn-randall | FightingFalcon: In all other cases you can just enable non-free after installation and get the firmware via apt. |
| 15:28.53 | FightingFalcon | ok |
| 15:29.37 | petn-randall | impermanence: dpkg-deb can be used to extract a .deb package, but if you want to compare two .deb files, it's easier to use diffoscope. |
| 15:30.06 | petn-randall | impermanence: If you want to check if the installation binaries are still consistent, use debsums. |
| 15:30.29 | petn-randall | (i.e. match the hashes provided by the debian package) |
| 15:32.26 | tdn | BanHammor, this is really great stuff!! Thanks again for the advice on soundconverter. :) |
| 15:32.50 | tdn | BanHammor, only missing an option to filter on input file type so that it only takes .flac files as input for example. |
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| 15:45.58 | Nawab | hello |
| 15:46.10 | Nawab | mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1 /media/neelz/temp1/ |
| 15:46.11 | Nawab | mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected |
| 15:46.18 | Nawab | can someone help me? |
| 15:46.25 | Nawab | i searched google |
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| 15:47.50 | Bierjpg|X8 | hey, is there a way to update & autodetect the Resolution for the Terminal without rebooting? just like it works at the startup? |
| 15:48.17 | urzds | Hi! |
| 15:49.32 | petn-randall | Nawab: What kind of device is /dev/sdb? |
| 15:49.43 | Nawab | its a sdcard |
| 15:49.58 | petn-randall | Nawab: There's probably a write-protect switch on the side of it. |
| 15:50.00 | urzds | Does Debian have a document with instructions for recruiters? I.e. something describing the steps that the person recruiting someone to be a Debian Developer / Debian Maintainer has to take (create account in LDAP, add SSH key, ...)? Similar to this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Recruiters/Recruiting |
| 15:50.16 | Nawab | on the side of it? |
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| 15:51.40 | Nawab | petn-randall: what do you mean on the side of it? |
| 15:51.54 | petn-randall | urzds: Something like this? https://www.debian.org/devel/join/newmaint |
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| 15:52.36 | petn-randall | Nawab: The SD card. I'm assuming it has a switch, that when enabled, write-protects the SD card. |
| 15:52.48 | Nawab | let me see |
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| 15:53.35 | urzds | petn-randall: So in Debian the process goes out from the developer, and there is no "recruiter" responsible to check the application for completeness or similar> |
| 15:53.36 | urzds | ? |
| 15:53.53 | Nawab | petn-randall: its a micro sd |
| 15:54.38 | urzds | Ah, no, it's called the Application Manager. |
| 15:54.44 | urzds | petn-randall: Thanks! |
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| 15:55.46 | petn-randall | urzds: You'll need to have met a couple of DDs in person to sign your key, and the usual process is becoming a DM first. |
| 15:56.39 | urzds | petn-randall: And as a DM I don't have direct access to anything, but act through a proxy who is a DD? |
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| 15:58.02 | petn-randall | urzds: No, you can do that already without any official status. |
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| 15:58.40 | petn-randall | urzds: That's the usual mentoring process. You start working on packages, and a DD reviews that and uploads it. |
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| 15:59.06 | petn-randall | urzds: When you're DM you have upload privileges for packages that your mentoring DD gives you (usually). |
| 16:00.00 | urzds | petn-randall: Ok, but DM status is more informal and only DDs go through a process as described on the newmaint page? |
| 16:00.12 | Bierjpg|X8 | no one a idea? |
| 16:00.15 | urzds | *only applications for DD status |
| 16:00.41 | petn-randall | urzds: No, DM is a quite similar process to becoming DD, but not as thorough. |
| 16:00.57 | petn-randall | urzds: Are you interested in packaging for Debian? |
| 16:01.03 | urzds | petn-randall: Is that also described somewhere? |
| 16:01.54 | urzds | petn-randall: No, actually I am trying to find good examples for a more formal description of a recruitment (and retirement) process... |
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| 16:02.20 | petn-randall | urzds: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer |
| 16:02.31 | Nawab | where is the switch in a micro sdcard? |
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| 16:02.47 | urzds | petn-randall: Thanks! |
| 16:03.11 | petn-randall | Nawab: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oqmdWYXsark/ThFiLxObXnI/AAAAAAAAAHs/GoLYAGjbFFA/s1600/memory+card+unlock.jpg |
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| 16:04.31 | gchristensen | Hi, I come from another Linux distribution and I'm curious about the technical committee and how it works in practice. has anyone here worked with the committee, or is on the committee, who would have some time to talk to me about it? |
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| 16:05.03 | urzds | petn-randall: I guess I got confused by the "maint" in the page URL and then assumed DM means Debian Maintainer. Figured that out now. |
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| 16:06.26 | Nawab | petn-randall: i flipped the switch, but its still write protected |
| 16:06.56 | Nawab | nvm it worked |
| 16:07.38 | petn-randall | Nawab: You're welcome! |
| 16:07.55 | Nawab | petn-randall: no i cant paste the music files into the sdcard |
| 16:07.58 | Nawab | :c |
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| 16:10.11 | Nawab | petn-randall: help |
| 16:10.39 | petn-randall | Nawab: Start with describing what you're exactly doing, and what error you get. |
| 16:11.19 | Nawab | i tried copy pasting some files into my sdcard, and cant get the option to paste it |
| 16:11.35 | Nawab | so i tried mount -o remount,rw it |
| 16:11.41 | Nawab | this is the error i get |
| 16:11.49 | Nawab | mount: cannot remount /dev/sdb1 read-write, is write-protected |
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| 16:14.03 | Nawab | so i tried doing some net search, and google told me to use hdparm |
| 16:14.15 | Nawab | i tried using hdparm but it failed |
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| 16:15.25 | Nawab | "Error while copying to Foo bar" |
| 16:15.37 | Nawab | the destination is read only |
| 16:16.06 | petn-randall | Nawab: After you flipped the switch, did you try remounting it? |
| 16:16.22 | petn-randall | *remounting it rw? |
| 16:16.23 | Nawab | yes i tried, but thts when i got tht error |
| 16:18.23 | alkisg | Nawab: did this card work in the past? |
| 16:18.25 | alkisg | (rw) |
| 16:18.33 | Nawab | yes |
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| 16:18.47 | alkisg | And then without doing anything particular, it stopped being writeable? |
| 16:18.53 | Nawab | yes |
| 16:19.06 | alkisg | Do you see any write errors if you run the dmesg command? |
| 16:19.07 | Nawab | it was used in my phone |
| 16:19.14 | alkisg | No, I mean in your pc |
| 16:19.41 | Nawab | 127242.800877] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA |
| 16:19.49 | alkisg | Put the output of dmesg to pastebin |
| 16:19.58 | alkisg | Also, what file system is it? |
| 16:20.12 | alkisg | (sudo) parted -l; (sudo) lsblk --fs |
| 16:20.13 | Nawab | [127243.165508] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. |
| 16:20.20 | mandeep | there was a bug introduced in the 4.9.0-4 kernel regarding erratic display on my intel based laptop. how would i begin to investigate how to fix this? |
| 16:20.23 | Nawab | its fat |
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| 16:20.35 | alkisg | Nawab: ok, unmount it and run fsck |
| 16:20.45 | alkisg | Don't run fsck while it's mounted |
| 16:21.20 | Nawab | ok done |
| 16:21.30 | alkisg | Put the output of the commands to pastebin |
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| 16:21.40 | alkisg | E.g. did it fix things? Did it write to the card? |
| 16:22.28 | Nawab | http://paste.debian.net/1006874/ |
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| 16:22.55 | alkisg | Nawab: and if you run it again, does it say again that it's dirty? |
| 16:22.59 | alkisg | Or is it ok now? |
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| 16:23.27 | Nawab | yes it tells the same thing |
| 16:23.39 | JyZyXEL | what was that line that could be added into init.d script to debug it? |
| 16:23.42 | Nawab | [127243.165508] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. |
| 16:24.39 | alkisg | Nawab: that sounds to me like it's broken and it's not writeable. If you insert it to the phone, can you still write to it? |
| 16:24.43 | petn-randall | Probably the fsck changes weren't written because of the switch. You'll have to check the description which setting is the correct one. |
| 16:24.49 | Nawab | idk |
| 16:24.55 | Nawab | i hav not tested |
| 16:25.12 | alkisg | Nawab: anyways, I've seen that issue 3-4 times, and the solution was to throw away the sd card |
| 16:25.21 | Nawab | hmm |
| 16:25.25 | alkisg | I'd check it on the phone if I were you |
| 16:26.01 | alkisg | (e.g. sd cards from raspberry pis can do that after 1 year of use...) |
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| 16:26.13 | Nawab | ok |
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| 16:27.02 | rant | Nawab: did the output of fsck say that the filesystem was unchanged? |
| 16:27.12 | Nawab | no\ |
| 16:27.27 | rant | Nawab: did it remove the dirty bit? |
| 16:27.29 | petn-randall | Does it say "all clean" when run a 2nd time? |
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| 16:28.04 | Nawab | no i didnt run it a second time |
| 16:28.15 | rant | I'd unmount run once with -V then again with -a |
| 16:29.06 | Nawab | fsck from util-linux 2.29.2 |
| 16:29.15 | Nawab | fsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) |
| 16:29.23 | Nawab | /dev/sdb1: 7433 files, 603829/973584 clusters |
| 16:29.35 | Nawab | fsck /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:30.53 | Nawab | it didnt say it was clean, but it didnt had to clean anything |
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| 16:31.38 | rant | you're not running it with either of the options I suggested, |
| 16:32.51 | rant | mount seems to be seeing a dirty bit on the fs, it'd saw something different if it thought it was write protedcted |
| 16:33.14 | Nawab | its saying bad super block |
| 16:33.42 | Nawab | time to run e2fsck? |
| 16:33.49 | rant | are you absolutely sure its a fat filesystem? |
| 16:33.53 | Nawab | yes |
| 16:34.39 | alkisg | Save the data you want and then you can try to write with "dd" which doesn't care about file systems |
| 16:34.48 | alkisg | ...i'm guessing that you'll see dd fail too |
| 16:35.22 | rant | it is beginning to smell like a bad card |
| 16:35.29 | Nawab | hmm |
| 16:35.37 | Nawab | http://paste.debian.net/1006883/ |
| 16:35.41 | JyZyXEL | how do i see which package is responsible for the junk that is in "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages" ? |
| 16:36.15 | JyZyXEL | it seems to have been created in jessie and now its acting up on stretch because of wrong permissions |
| 16:36.24 | rant | JyZyXEL: apt-file or packages.debian.org should be able to help |
| 16:36.36 | petn-randall | JyZyXEL: No Debian package will write anything to /usr/local, FYI. |
| 16:36.51 | JyZyXEL | petn-randall: i think its the python pip stuff possibly? |
| 16:36.55 | petn-randall | JyZyXEL: I'm guessing it's stuff created by running pip install as root. |
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| 16:37.13 | JyZyXEL | petn-randall: yeah, nobody told me that breaks debian unfortunately :/ |
| 16:37.15 | rant | oh.. yeah /usr/local is against package policy.. /me wasnt paying attention |
| 16:37.58 | Nawab | rant: what should i do? |
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| 16:38.23 | rant | Nawab: you're running the wrong fsck apparently.. its running an ext fsck not a vfat one |
| 16:38.39 | Nawab | i did fsck |
| 16:38.41 | rant | Nawab: I'm still groggy or I'd have noticed that from the util-linux thing you said earlier |
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| 16:39.02 | Nawab | so which command should i use? |
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| 16:39.33 | petn-randall | Nawab: FYI, /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb are completely different things. You have to figure out where your filesystem was. I'm guessing the former. |
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| 16:39.45 | rant | Nawab: fsck.vfat is in dosfstools not util-linux |
| 16:39.47 | Nawab | its /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:40.25 | rant | Nawab: make sure dosfstools is installed, and run SPECIFICALLY fsck.vfat -V and then again with -a |
| 16:40.25 | Nawab | fsck.vfat /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:40.25 | Nawab | fsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) |
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| 16:40.35 | Nawab | /dev/sdb1: 7433 files, 603829/973584 clusters |
| 16:40.37 | Nawab | ok |
| 16:41.00 | Nawab | fsck.vfat -V /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:41.01 | Nawab | fsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24) |
| 16:41.01 | Nawab | Starting check/repair pass. |
| 16:41.14 | Nawab | Starting verification pass. |
| 16:41.14 | Nawab | /dev/sdb1: 7433 files, 603829/973584 clusters |
| 16:41.29 | rant | you really should stop pasting into the channel before you get into trouble.. |
| 16:41.39 | Nawab | :D |
| 16:42.46 | rant | JyZyXEL: dirs like /opt /srv /usr/local and /home are not allowed to be modified by packages according to the debian policy.. this is likely as suggested something 3rd party if you dont know what it is, as these are not debian dirs it is probably safe to remove to get errors to disappear |
| 16:42.52 | Nawab | http://paste.debian.net/1006886/ |
| 16:43.48 | Nawab | rant: ^ |
| 16:44.15 | rant | Nawab: yeah I see that.. fsck seems to be doing nothing.. which is odd because it typically says that the fs is clean if it finds nothing |
| 16:44.22 | JyZyXEL | rant: yeah looks like it would be safe to just empty this particular directory, screw the people who ever gave me the instruction to use pip on debian stable... |
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| 16:45.19 | Nawab | rant: so whats the problem? |
| 16:46.01 | rant | JyZyXEL: heh.. yeah we have TONS of python packages pip is usually unnecessary |
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| 16:46.21 | impermanence | petn-randall: sorry for the delayed response |
| 16:46.25 | rant | tries to recreate this issue |
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| 16:47.18 | JyZyXEL | rant: 'deluged' was silently failing due to things in those dirctories being "Permission denied", but deleting them fixed it |
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| 16:47.45 | impermanence | petn-randall: I want to compare a previously installed main dir for nginx to a fresh dummy nginx install/dir/whatever...cuz I don't know the product well and want to be able to essentially diff the installed vs. a fresh package grab |
| 16:48.01 | impermanence | this would be on debian of course :) |
| 16:48.14 | impermanence | has nothing to do with nginx, that's just what I want to compare. |
| 16:48.32 | impermanence | is there a way to do this without downloading the source and then making it or something like that? |
| 16:49.14 | impermanence | I tried chrooting to complete this yesterday but apparently removing chroots is not trivial |
| 16:49.41 | rant | Nawab: http://paste.debian.net/1006887/ thats how the process should go.. mine is now mounting fine without the error |
| 16:50.28 | Nawab | rant: im formatting it, so thnx for your time |
| 16:50.38 | rant | Nawab: from what I'm hearing from you fsck is now reporting no dirty bit and mount is saying its there :P |
| 16:50.48 | Nawab | yes |
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| 16:54.10 | Epx998 | Is there a way I can have a certain hosts file preseeded during a net install? |
| 16:57.12 | rant | Epx998: what are you trying to accomplish specifically? setting hostname on the target? |
| 16:57.41 | rant | Epx998: the method of netinst is also relevant here.. booting off usb, pxe? |
| 16:58.45 | Epx998 | pxe/net - I need an updated /etc/hosts and i'm trying to avoid using any sort of cfm post install |
| 16:59.37 | rant | Epx998: there are a great deal of thoughs on this matter on this old stackexchange post https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106614/preseed-cfg-ignoring-hostname-setting |
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| 17:00.12 | rant | if you haven't already tried with errors, you could just read the https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
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| 17:00.53 | Epx998 | rant: I just want the hosts file formatted in a certain way, ive seen some 'localhost' bugs when running hostname -f post install. Re-arranging the localhost line seems to fix it |
| 17:01.36 | rant | those files are usually overwritten by dhcp |
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| 17:06.57 | Epx998 | rant: hmm yeah, we remove dhcp at first boot, guess i'll jst keep doing it as we are |
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| 17:07.34 | DammitJim | is there such a thing as setting up an NFS cluster file server? |
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| 17:15.19 | zomaar | I am trying to get tmpfiles.d to clean a /var/cache directory but there is no result and no logs and no debug mode, what can I do? |
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| 17:17.33 | zomaar | I know it reads the cache.conf file, the config is just "D /var/cache/lxc - - - 10d" |
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| 17:17.53 | zomaar | But it doesn't do anything |
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| 17:18.36 | rant | I don't know anything about this, but that looks like a crontab entry and I seem to recall that cron has logs |
| 17:18.49 | zomaar | No I am executing by hand |
| 17:19.02 | zomaar | sudo systemd-tmpfiles --clean |
| 17:19.08 | zomaar | To test |
| 17:19.36 | zomaar | But it doesn't produce output unless I make the conf file invalid |
| 17:21.18 | tw | DammitJim: NFS won't do it, but you might find something else that solves your problem. |
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| 17:21.42 | tw | DammitJim: there's a ton of cluster filesystems with various use cases. |
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| 17:22.41 | DammitJim | I just need a place to share files so that applications on Linux servers and Windows servers can access them/move them, etc |
| 17:22.59 | DammitJim | so, I need to google "cluster filesystems?" |
| 17:23.14 | tw | Does it need to be a cluster or do you just need a network share for this? |
| 17:23.27 | tw | Because if it's a single server hosting all of your disks, NFS will work fine. |
| 17:23.37 | tw | Or samba. |
| 17:23.47 | DammitJim | tw, I need it to be highly available (i.e. serverA goes down, but serverB continues to provide service) |
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| 17:24.04 | rant | zomaar: I just skimmed the docs on that command and that config file.. bearing in mind as I said before I know nothing about this.. but that D you mention says that it's related to a --remove switch and from what I gather does nothing if you dont use that switch |
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| 17:26.40 | tw | DammitJim: If it's read-write, you probably want a SAN, if it's read-only, you can probably get away with replication. I've heard of doing HA with NFS using drbd, but I've not tried it myself. |
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| 17:27.32 | DammitJim | oh ok, so NFS is possible with drdb |
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| 17:28.04 | DammitJim | the SAN piece to me seems to have a problem where a single machine is involved to provide access to that file system |
| 17:28.10 | DammitJim | or am I incorrect int hat statement? |
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| 17:30.37 | rant | zomaar: the --clean options and --remove options are different.. your config is telling it to remove something and the command you are running is telling it not to.. therein seems to be the problem |
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| 17:33.11 | linuxthefish | hi, does anyone know the location of where I can change brightness from command line? it's like /proc/sys/backlight or something like that |
| 17:34.14 | annadane | that directory doesn't exist for me (though i'm on sid), but there's the redshift package |
| 17:34.18 | greycat | "find /sys -name '*backlight*'" comes up with /sys/class/backlight among others |
| 17:34.20 | linuxthefish | ah I found it, but when I do "sudo echo 4422465 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" it says permission denied |
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| 17:35.40 | linuxthefish | is it possible to set that file to read only? chattr doesn't let me, it says "chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags" |
| 17:36.13 | linuxthefish | cinnamon always changes the brightness of the screen when the power is removed, but when I plug power back in it doesn't restore it to full |
| 17:36.20 | tw | DammitJim: you can use failover with a SAN endpoint for the access server. As long as you don't have two access hosts online at once, you shouldn't need to worry about locking problems. However, I think if you have an nfs server failure, you'll lose your locks. You'd have to verify that if it is an issue. |
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| 17:38.48 | rant | linuxthefish: are you looking to lower power consumption or merely make the screen darker? |
| 17:39.16 | linuxthefish | rant, I want the screen to stay the same (full) brightness when my laptop is plugged in or on battery |
| 17:39.35 | rant | linuxthefish: do you use a DE or X? |
| 17:40.18 | linuxthefish | rant, I use cinnamon, but even when lightdm is stopped and I'm on the console the brightness still changes! |
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| 17:41.00 | rant | linuxthefish: right, thats why I asked cause I got a thinkpad with mate and its told not to do anything when lid is closed but when I'm on console and close it, it still sleeps |
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| 17:41.44 | linuxthefish | ah I found a solution! |
| 17:41.56 | linuxthefish | when I am using root, I just run "while true; do sleep 1 ; sudo echo 4422465 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness; done" all the time |
| 17:42.09 | rant | ew |
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| 17:42.45 | rant | linuxthefish: you can probably hook an event in udev somewhere to the power state changing and just run that on the event |
| 17:42.47 | greycat | your sudo and redirection are not correct, either |
| 17:43.10 | greycat | if the entire loop is running as root, then just drop the sudo |
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| 17:43.29 | linuxthefish | yeah it doesn't work with sudo, I have to keep a terminal open as root :S |
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| 17:43.49 | linuxthefish | I think because redirection isn't using sudo, I can't explain |
| 17:43.54 | greycat | to do a redirection with sudo, you need to open a shell, or use tee. while sleep 1; do sudo sh -c 'echo ... > ...'; done |
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| 17:44.11 | greycat | I would probably just run the entire loop as root instead. |
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| 17:45.42 | linuxthefish | thanks greycat that works! |
| 17:46.57 | linuxthefish | urgh it used high CPU for some reason |
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| 17:48.26 | greycat | there's probably some better solution |
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| 17:49.44 | shtrb | Can someone guide me with '[ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)' when running optirun (copies /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/nouveau.conf , xorg.conf is missing (letting X to identify by itself) |
| 17:49.46 | linuxthefish | greycat, yeah if I could somehow remove or disable the device |
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| 17:58.09 | FightingFalcon | My windows is in drive C. I installed Debian to D. however grub couldnt detect windows so i didnt install it. Now how could i boot to debian? |
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| 17:58.18 | doublehp | is "/etc/init.d/firstrun" known in debian, or is i/etc/init.d/firstrunt specific to armbian ? |
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| 18:01.00 | martin-_-_ | hi |
| 18:01.06 | eck | sup marty |
| 18:01.16 | martin-_-_ | I get a kind of strange php session files in /var/lib/php5 |
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| 18:02.03 | eck | bummer |
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| 18:02.14 | martin-_-_ | no my disc is out of space |
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| 18:04.10 | martin-_-_ | eck https://imgur.com/a/rNSck |
| 18:04.55 | eck | have you ever heard of pastebin |
| 18:04.57 | martin-_-_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.05 | eck | try find |
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| 18:05.24 | eck | you can use xargs -P to limit parallelism |
| 18:05.36 | eck | or like this: |
| 18:05.43 | eck | find /var/lib/php5 -name 'sess_*' -delete |
| 18:06.17 | martin-_-_ | find: invalid predicate `-delete' :( |
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| 18:06.30 | eck | you might have to move that earlier |
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| 18:07.45 | greycat | martin-_-_: this is #debian. We expect you have Debian. |
| 18:07.48 | DammitJim | is there such a thing as distributed file systems in linux? |
| 18:07.59 | greycat | Debian has GNU find which has had the -delete action for years upon years. |
| 18:08.05 | martin-_-_ | greycat I have debian is only quite old |
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| 18:08.15 | eck | how old |
| 18:08.22 | martin-_-_ | very old, its sarge |
| 18:08.32 | eck | damn dude |
| 18:08.36 | eck | and you're running php5 on that? |
| 18:08.46 | eck | doesn't that concern you a bit? |
| 18:08.55 | greycat | !sarge |
| 18:08.55 | dpkg | Sarge is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
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| 18:09.30 | ricky_clarkson | Hi. I'm using a custom internal distribution based on Debian testing, did an in-place upgrade from the previous version that was based on Ubuntu LTS, and now my apple keyboard's left command key no longer brings up the menu in X, but the right one does. |
| 18:09.42 | greycat | I am very concerned about a web server running PHP on sarge adminned by someone who can't write a simple find command to delete files. |
| 18:09.46 | ricky_clarkson | Is there anything I should do to fix that? |
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| 18:12.11 | shtrb | ricky_clarkson, move to debian stable and ask again |
| 18:12.17 | eck | martin-_-_: i'm curious, what's your uptime |
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| 18:13.30 | rysiek|pl | hey all |
| 18:13.38 | rysiek|pl | I am having a weird issue on a server |
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| 18:13.42 | ricky_clarkson | shtrb: Ok, let me find a screwdriver. |
| 18:13.42 | rysiek|pl | running Debian 8.10 |
| 18:13.58 | rysiek|pl | getting: kernel:[7259833.539837] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [python:31355] |
| 18:14.32 | rysiek|pl | iowait is high, RAM is being gobbled |
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| 18:15.26 | rysiek|pl | obvsly killing the process in question doesn't work |
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| 18:18.04 | martin-_-_ | eck 23h hours, |
| 18:18.17 | martin-_-_ | it shutdowns everyday |
| 18:18.20 | martin-_-_ | once |
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| 18:22.09 | linuxthefish | rysiek|pl check smart data for your disk, it might be failing |
| 18:22.49 | linuxthefish | sometimes old disks go super slow for some reason before they fail, at least in my experiance |
| 18:22.58 | rysiek|pl | yeah, disks look good, no errors logged |
| 18:23.05 | rysiek|pl | also, they're in RAID1 |
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| 18:24.42 | rysiek|pl | /proc/mdstat doesn't show any problems either |
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| 18:25.16 | shtrb | anyone about that have an idea about X can give me a hint ? |
| 18:25.20 | shtrb | Can someone guide me with '[ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)' when running optirun (copies /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/nouveau.conf , xorg.conf is missing (letting X to identify by itself) |
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| 18:26.30 | doublehp | shtrb: #xorg, or #yourdriver |
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| 18:27.06 | rysiek|pl | linuxthefish: another thing that is weird is why is RAM being cobbled up |
| 18:27.24 | rysiek|pl | *gobbled |
| 18:27.31 | rysiek|pl | linuxthefish: and I mean, seriously gobbled, 20GiB+ already |
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| 18:56.09 | darsie | konsole beeped and showed this Message from syslogd: https://pastebin.com/S3NV4YwX Should I be worried? |
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| 18:59.02 | stoned | I forgot to do something |
| 18:59.10 | stoned | E: Failed to fetch http://debootstrap.invalid/pool/main/libx/libxfixes/libxfixes3_5.0.3-1_amd64.deb Could not resolve 'debootstrap.invalid' now I get this error. I can't remember what to do |
| 18:59.24 | stoned | I'm not sure why sources is messed up in chroot sid |
| 19:01.03 | hassoon | 'evening you guys |
| 19:01.32 | stoned | It's a common thing happens everytime I install a chroot |
| 19:01.41 | stoned | I wonder why it gets messed up and how to not have to manually fix it |
| 19:01.43 | JustASlacker | why use chroots |
| 19:01.49 | JustASlacker | use a container |
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| 19:01.49 | stoned | I'm on debian jessie. |
| 19:01.54 | stoned | what? |
| 19:02.00 | stoned | what do you mean? |
| 19:02.09 | hassoon | stoned: ow my central-asian folk |
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| 19:02.19 | Sbef_BigBlue | ehy guys! |
| 19:02.23 | Sbef_BigBlue | i have no idea why |
| 19:02.32 | Sbef_BigBlue | but suddenly my audio stopped working |
| 19:03.01 | Sbef_BigBlue | i'm using debian 9 streatch, everything updated, i3wm as GUI |
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| 19:03.29 | Sbef_BigBlue | i just know a second before i was listening to spotify while a second later, opening vlc, no more audio! |
| 19:03.33 | shtrb | Can someone please update debian wiki and point out that bumble must not be used with nouveau (https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Optimus/ ) for stretch https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee ? |
| 19:03.37 | Sbef_BigBlue | i'm using alsa-utils |
| 19:04.31 | zomaar | rant: I do think I tested the "d" flag also |
| 19:04.33 | jhutchins_wk | Check your mixer, make sure you're using the right card. |
| 19:04.35 | shtrb | Sbef_BigBlue, open pavucontrol and play with the outputs |
| 19:04.45 | jhutchins_wk | Sbef_BigBlue: ^ |
| 19:04.46 | zomaar | rant: The "updated" tmpfiles.d documentation (online) specifies that D only extends d, it has all the functionality of d as well. |
| 19:04.50 | shtrb | sometimes pulseaudio switch to a different output (even when not plugged in ) |
| 19:05.07 | zomaar | rant: But strangely, it did work on reboot (which uses --remove) |
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| 19:05.32 | rant | zomaar: not sure man, was just trying to aid a bit with a quick glance at the docs. I never even heard of this stuff before you mentioned it |
| 19:06.21 | zomaar | rant: But I just deleted the config and use a one line cron job for the same now |
| 19:06.36 | zomaar | rant: Would have saved at least 30 minutes of my time ;-) |
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| 19:07.19 | zomaar | Freaking tools without any debug output from the likes of Lennart Poettering... |
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| 19:07.27 | kryl | hi |
| 19:07.36 | Sbef_BigBlue | shtrb: it should be working, but still get no audio output |
| 19:07.44 | Sbef_BigBlue | kryl: hi |
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| 19:08.46 | kryl | I try to install grub.cfg with update-grub inside a chroot but it continue to use the /dev/vda1 from "host" settings and grub.cfg is filled with wrong UUID ... any idea on how to fix that ? I followed this method : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot |
| 19:09.09 | rant | zomaar: yes well if you kept insisting on my help that'd be my recommendation to stop trying to understand all this fancy new stuff and do it the old fashioned way |
| 19:10.07 | kryl | both host and guest (for chroot) are under debian stretch |
| 19:10.36 | zomaar | rant: Yeah it's a mistake |
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| 19:10.44 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: first of all you mention in your question two different programs.. different programs can be using different output drivers and different configurations.. first thing to do is back up to square one and see if sound is in fact working at the lowest level |
| 19:11.00 | zomaar | rant: The D flag does work with --remove, but the d flag does not work with --clean |
| 19:11.05 | zomaar | rant: Go figure ;-) |
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| 19:11.45 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: what do you mean? square one? |
| 19:11.50 | rant | zomaar: yeah idk, I can't help you further with the systemd tmp file cleaning stuff I have no knowledge or experience of it beyond what that cursory glance of the docs suggested to me |
| 19:12.08 | zomaar | rant: Well thanks for looking |
| 19:12.21 | zomaar | Unfortunately those docs were very bad |
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| 19:13.53 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: you're using linux.. the kernel is likely using an alsa driver to control the sound hardware so you want to try as root (to rule out any permission issues) us a basic alsa sound test with perhaps aplay is a good choice |
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| 19:14.25 | brwoods | is the us mirror painfully slow for anyone else? |
| 19:15.16 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: aplay -l should list your sound hardware is the first thing I'd try.. if that fails to show the hardware then you found the problem.. if it does show the hardware, next step is to try play a sound |
| 19:15.47 | zomaar | kryl: Is LVM involved at all? |
| 19:16.03 | rant | brwoods: I use deb.debian.org these days, and I'd recommend you do the same |
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| 19:16.48 | brwoods | rant: 237 kB/s is something to.. rant about so, jokes aside, I'll try that |
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| 19:17.25 | rant | brwoods: thats about what I average but I'm on a hotspot that is barely in range.. |
| 19:17.47 | kryl | zomaar, there isn't any LVM neither in host or guest. |
| 19:18.00 | zomaar | 237 kB/s slow, that's a new thing in this day and age |
| 19:18.07 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: ok thank you |
| 19:19.03 | zomaar | kryl: And the mounted device is another device right |
| 19:19.50 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: it says: audio open error, device busy |
| 19:19.59 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: sound system in linux is probably more layered and diverse than anything.. you gotta start at the bottom to figure out where the problem lies. |
| 19:20.04 | zomaar | Sbef_BigBlue: Kill pulseaudio first (pulseaudio -k) |
| 19:20.24 | zomaar | And be quick because it restarts |
| 19:20.29 | JustASlacker | that will respawn |
| 19:20.30 | rant | heh |
| 19:20.32 | kryl | zomaar, there is only one primary partition with ext4 |
| 19:20.50 | Sbef_BigBlue | zomaar: i do not have pulse audio |
| 19:20.53 | kryl | zomaar, yes it's an another device. |
| 19:21.01 | Sbef_BigBlue | zomaar: i installed alsa only |
| 19:21.09 | zomaar | Oh ok |
| 19:21.19 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: which command said this, the aplay -l ? |
| 19:21.41 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: no i tried aplay song_name.mp3 |
| 19:21.51 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: the aply -l looks fine |
| 19:21.57 | Sbef_BigBlue | intel ich5 is the right channel |
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| 19:22.14 | greycat | haven't been following... did you un-mute yet? |
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| 19:22.24 | zomaar | kryl: Trying to think when last that happened to me but my chroots always work |
| 19:22.25 | beeman | hi. need help installing php5-cli. im getting this error: "E: Package 'php5-cli' has no installation candidate" |
| 19:22.27 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: oh well i tried again and now is playing. but no sound |
| 19:22.36 | greycat | beeman: if it's stretch, there's no php5 |
| 19:22.46 | annadane | ,v php5-cli |
| 19:22.47 | judd | Package: php5-cli on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u12; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 19:22.48 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: ok.. well maybe you WANT something like pulse because those things manage the issue of the device being busy by mixing applications that want to use sound at a higher level |
| 19:22.56 | annadane | not in stretch, beeman |
| 19:23.02 | beeman | what to do then? |
| 19:23.14 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: APT INSTALL PULSEAUDIO-UTILS? |
| 19:23.20 | Sbef_BigBlue | ops caps lock |
| 19:23.20 | greycat | beeman: if you can't use php7, either install jessie instead of stretch, or build php5 yourself |
| 19:23.22 | zomaar | Sbef_BigBlue: You can also create a dmix device quite easily |
| 19:23.22 | somiaj | beeman: either convert your php apps to use php7, or build a jessie server to run php5. |
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| 19:23.34 | jhutchins_wk | Sbef_BigBlue: Sounds like some program opened the audio device with an exclusive write lock and didn't release it. You may have to log out or restart. |
| 19:23.35 | beeman | why is that |
| 19:23.38 | zomaar | Sbef_BigBlue: That also allows sharing the device |
| 19:23.48 | beeman | i want to learn php.. no idea about php though |
| 19:24.00 | somiaj | beeman: php7 should be fine then to learn. Just use that |
| 19:24.02 | kryl | zomaar, one more thing when I try to umount the mntRepChroot with associated extra directories (proc/sys/dev ...) I can't umount dev/pts, dev of course and sys ... |
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| 19:24.23 | somiaj | beeman: since you are learning, no reason learning the older syntax (it is simlar but there are changes) |
| 19:24.28 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: this spotify you said you were using.. was this in a web browser? |
| 19:24.29 | Sbef_BigBlue | this is annoying. i've just been able to download my favorite playlist from spotify and now i cant listen to it damn |
| 19:24.40 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: no spotify-client |
| 19:24.47 | beeman | how to install it |
| 19:24.53 | beeman | !search |
| 19:24.53 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S /bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and «/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>. |
| 19:24.59 | somiaj | beeman: php7-cli should be sufficent |
| 19:25.09 | somiaj | that is if you wnt the cli client and not one linked with apahce. |
| 19:25.09 | beeman | is there different between? |
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| 19:25.15 | greycat | or php-cli |
| 19:25.26 | Shmam | How do I update python3? my version is 3.5 and the installation instructions for a software that I need requires 3.6. `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade` doesnt update it |
| 19:25.39 | jhutchins_wk | ,v python3 |
| 19:25.40 | greycat | Shmam: you build it from upstream source code |
| 19:25.40 | judd | Package: python3 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; stretch: 3.5.3-1; buster: 3.6.4-1; sid: 3.6.4-1 |
| 19:25.44 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: did you install a desktop environment? |
| 19:25.55 | somiaj | beeman: yes there is a difference between php5 and php7, but there are also lots of similarities. When learning just learn 7. |
| 19:25.58 | Sbef_BigBlue | i Noticed that alsamixer doesn't see ich5 as default device. could it mean anything? |
| 19:26.05 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: i3wm |
| 19:26.10 | Sbef_BigBlue | only |
| 19:26.17 | somiaj | Sbef_BigBlue: it could, sometimes you have to set your default device. I use ~/.asound for this |
| 19:26.17 | zomaar | Sbef_BigBlue: Here is an example .asoundrc that uses dmix: http://termbin.com/9844 |
| 19:26.37 | somiaj | zomaar: dmix should be enabled by default, so a complicated .asoundrc maynot be needed |
| 19:26.45 | somiaj | might just need to change the default sound card |
| 19:27.07 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: are you using hdmi or have multiple sound outputs in aplay -l? |
| 19:27.16 | Shmam | so how do I build from upstream? |
| 19:27.24 | Sbef_BigBlue | no, i'm using vga and internal speakers |
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| 19:27.50 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: and there is only one output listed in aplay -l then? |
| 19:28.03 | somiaj | Shmam: in general you don't want to change the python version in debian, this can lead to problems. (you can install a different python in a python virtual enviroment though), and this will require building from upstream. I think there are guides on this. |
| 19:28.10 | zomaar | somiaj: I think only if you use dmix:0,0 or something? |
| 19:28.44 | Shmam | but for this: https://github.com/GabMus/razerCommander. can I just use 3.5? it says 3.6 but maybe it will still work with 3.5? |
| 19:28.50 | somiaj | zomaar: you shoudln't have to do anything to get dmix to work, it should be enabled by default. Many then disable it acidently writting a poor .asoundrc though. |
| 19:29.01 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: i have 2 subdevices |
| 19:29.03 | kryl | zomaar, here are some informations : https://pastebin.com/9hWaXQ9F |
| 19:29.12 | zomaar | I mean there are templates for dmix that you can address with your card and device address |
| 19:29.19 | Shmam | should I follow this: https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/Install_Python_2.7_or_3_on_debian_6.html |
| 19:29.19 | Sbef_BigBlue | ich5 and ich5 IEC(weird numbers) rant |
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| 19:29.41 | zomaar | somiaj: Oh okay |
| 19:30.12 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: yeah, thats likely just digital output |
| 19:30.24 | kryl | It's a fresh shell with my command, you will see what's happening ... : https://pastebin.com/9hWaXQ9F |
| 19:31.36 | zomaar | kryl: You run grub-install but did you run update-grub? |
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| 19:32.12 | zomaar | Oh yes sorry |
| 19:32.16 | kryl | yep |
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| 19:32.35 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: aplay -L will tell you what device is the default |
| 19:33.07 | zomaar | See grub-probe will still find /dev/vda1 because it just checks devices, it doesn't do that because it is your mounted root |
| 19:33.34 | zomaar | When it says "Found .... on /dev/vda1" it does so from the additional systems script |
| 19:33.40 | zomaar | It's not your main device |
| 19:33.47 | zomaar | That one was recognised in the first 2 lines |
| 19:34.03 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: http://paste.debian.net/1006923/ thats what I got, you should probably paste the same there on that site for us to help figure this out if you need more assistance figuring this out |
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| 19:34.33 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: i get to think it's an hardware fault. it's ich5 the right one for everything... |
| 19:34.35 | zomaar | kryl: It probably does so from /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober, which you can disable |
| 19:34.41 | Shmam | Is the second answer safe to do? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/332641/how-to-install-python-3-6 |
| 19:34.57 | Shmam | I dont wnat to break my system |
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| 19:35.09 | zomaar | kryl: If you had rebooted you would have seen that system as an additional option, not the first one |
| 19:35.38 | jhutchins_wk | Shmam: The problem with python is that some internal processes use it, so you need a parallel install. |
| 19:35.42 | greycat | if it says "download something.tar.gz" and "tar -xz ..." and "./configure" and "make install" then it's safe. |
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| 19:36.03 | greycat | if it says "sources.list" and "PPA" and "ubuntu" and "mixing releases" and "pinning" then throw it away, set fire to it, and run |
| 19:36.06 | kryl | zomaar, an additional option ? can you develop please (and I can't really reboot and use it it's a VM in a cloud) |
| 19:36.14 | Shmam | ok thankyou greycat |
| 19:36.37 | annadane | too much sudo on tutorials |
| 19:36.38 | zomaar | kryl: Multiple boot options in a menu |
| 19:36.48 | zomaar | kryl: I take it you know what the grub menu is right? |
| 19:36.54 | Shmam | grub yeay |
| 19:36.55 | greycat | the only part you should need root for is "make install" |
| 19:37.02 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: yes but as you see in my output, which is an ICH4, there are way more possible PCMs than hardware devices and if you need more advanced help like us telling you specifics of configuration we'd need to see specifics of your hardware |
| 19:37.08 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: https://www.pastiebin.com/5a68e056a9d4f |
| 19:37.51 | zomaar | kryl: But what it comes down to is that there is _not an issue_ |
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| 19:38.25 | zomaar | kryl: You don't have a problem, it's in order |
| 19:38.40 | kryl | zomaar, when I "remove" the /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober file there isn't any option for the drive... it only add the 2 first lines |
| 19:38.51 | zomaar | kryl: And I also don't know why you can't reboot while installing a system??? |
| 19:39.00 | kryl | the problem is more because this file detect the wrong drive :-) |
| 19:39.11 | zomaar | kryl: Can you just show the grub.cfg? |
| 19:39.35 | kryl | grub.cfg is the same than the host |
| 19:39.35 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: yeah you're setup.. are you sure the mixer isnt bmuted as greycat had said? |
| 19:39.44 | zomaar | I still want to see it |
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| 19:40.17 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: and have you tried different output hardware.. like headphones instead of your speakers.. |
| 19:40.36 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: idk how to screenshot, but alsamixer says everything is at max |
| 19:41.00 | kryl | just to resume I have a debian/stretch system (in AWS) I plug an EBS drive on it and try to install all basics with debootstrap. partitioning, etc... when I chroot inside this automatic files can't recognize it's in a chroot and configure the same /boot/grub/grub.cfg than host OS ... |
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| 19:42.10 | Sbef_BigBlue | i just died |
| 19:42.12 | zomaar | It can't be the same or it wouldn't say "Found Debian Stretch" |
| 19:42.30 | Sbef_BigBlue | i dont know what i clicked and got playing music at max |
| 19:42.34 | Sbef_BigBlue | ahahahahha |
| 19:42.47 | Sbef_BigBlue | though, i'm noticing that this works just with earphones |
| 19:42.48 | zomaar | kryl: Can you then show the main system grub.cfg and the guest system grub.cfg? |
| 19:43.07 | brwoods | rant: I'm on a corp connection so that's not the limit, deb.debian.org is getting about 400-500kB/s so, it's better but still slow. Annoyingly the packages in my apt-cacher-ng timed out and were deleted so. |
| 19:43.45 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: https://i.imgur.com/CVeLDk5.png notice the difference between master and headphone or pcm on mine.. the 00 at the bototm is what it should be, the MM means muted |
| 19:43.55 | kryl | zomaar, yes I can, sprunge.us return a 500 error actually but I'll copy past them (just they are the same) |
| 19:44.08 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: both look to be maxed out otherwise |
| 19:44.15 | zomaar | kryl: You can use cat ... | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 19:45.53 | rant | brwoods: back in the day I prefered mirrors.kernel.org cause they have really fast servers.. but thats cause I'm in the US.. if you are as well you may try their mirror, their servers are really quick |
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| 19:46.23 | kryl | zomaar, host : http://termbin.com/au3l and in the chroot : http://termbin.com/hulk |
| 19:46.47 | rant | brwoods: we used to have this program apt-spy that checked all the mirrors and configured you for the fastest one but something we did in recent releases broke that and it was removed sadyly |
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| 19:47.16 | brwoods | hrm, thanks for the tips, I'll try it soon |
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| 19:47.26 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant |
| 19:47.34 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: yes itis muted! |
| 19:47.39 | Sbef_BigBlue | i didn't know |
| 19:47.56 | Sbef_BigBlue | ok, so, how to unmute from alsamixer? |
| 19:48.01 | greycat | press "m" |
| 19:48.04 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: heh, well you can thank greycat for stating the obvious :P just go to the channel and press m |
| 19:48.05 | Sbef_BigBlue | i'm really sorry i made you lose so much time |
| 19:48.13 | greycat | 14:22 greycat> haven't been following... did you un-mute yet? |
| 19:48.43 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: na, I've been stressed.. so I havent been catching small things. greycat called that a while ago :P |
| 19:48.54 | notadrop | Question... 'sudo make install-deb' does 'rm -rf' on any *.deb files as one of its last steps... why? |
| 19:48.55 | greycat | on a brand new install, the master channel starts muted *and* at volume 0. you have to remember this, install alsa-utils, run alsamixer, un-mute the master channel, and raise the volume |
| 19:49.01 | Sbef_BigBlue | still not... |
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| 19:51.25 | Sbef_BigBlue | ok this is weird |
| 19:51.29 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: if you arent concerned about a minor resource usage (not a really slow machine with low ram) and you are going to possibly use multiple sound apps, you may want to consider apt-get install pulseaudio pavucontrol |
| 19:51.33 | Sbef_BigBlue | trying to play around with settings |
| 19:51.54 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: and add pulseaudio to your session, so that apps can be mixed and managed individually |
| 19:51.57 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: i'm on a '01 pentium 4 with 756 mb ram |
| 19:52.08 | Sbef_BigBlue | well there is this weird thing |
| 19:52.24 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: this is a Pentium M w/ 1gb and I'm using mate with pulse |
| 19:52.39 | Sbef_BigBlue | if playing music, nothing happens. but if i switch the mono out |
| 19:52.46 | Sbef_BigBlue | i get a weird crappy sound |
| 19:53.23 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: yeah! i meant i don't have problems with slowness and low ram :P |
| 19:53.37 | Sbef_BigBlue | greycat: i see... i didn't know how to use alsa :/ |
| 19:53.47 | greycat | !alsa checklist |
| 19:53.47 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 19:54.07 | greycat | that's an older factoid |
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| 19:54.58 | greycat | I think the community's position on pulseaudio has been softening, to the point where some people actually recommend installing it, instead of purging it with fire and bullets. |
| 19:55.10 | Sbef_BigBlue | ok |
| 19:55.13 | Sbef_BigBlue | i found out |
| 19:55.20 | Sbef_BigBlue | aplay was playing mono |
| 19:55.22 | Sbef_BigBlue | and well |
| 19:55.27 | Sbef_BigBlue | that's weird |
| 19:55.37 | Sbef_BigBlue | looks like i cannot play mono |
| 19:55.38 | Sbef_BigBlue | lol |
| 19:55.49 | Sbef_BigBlue | switched to stereo and now everything is fine |
| 19:56.02 | Sbef_BigBlue | anyway thank you for telling me how to unmute! thank you for real! |
| 19:56.23 | annadane | !tell Sbef_BigBlue about enter |
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| 19:57.29 | rant | heh. Yeah it works well now. I only avoid pulseaudio on systems where I'm at like 512MB ram or less or a really slow cpu.. cause it only takes about 10mb ram tops but its priority is high |
| 19:57.54 | Sbef_BigBlue | annadane: yeah, a lovely big button ahahahahhahaha sorry |
| 19:58.18 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: its even more tempting on a thinkapd where its blue :P |
| 19:58.47 | Sbef_BigBlue | greycat: i usually use pulse audio on my main system, i love it. but i was trying to stay simple on this old crappy pc |
| 19:59.08 | Sbef_BigBlue | rant: i'm using a thinkcentre and it's red ;) |
| 19:59.21 | rant | Sbef_BigBlue: ah well no wonder you're pressing it like crazy |
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| 19:59.26 | Sbef_BigBlue | big red button. how can you avoid it??? |
| 19:59.30 | Sbef_BigBlue | ahahahahah |
| 19:59.32 | rant | who can resist a big red button? heh |
| 20:01.00 | rant | notadrop: because thats' what the makefil told it to do? |
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| 20:01.51 | notadrop | ohhhh. |
| 20:02.04 | rant | notadrop: when asking a question like that it helps to mention what you're working with.. |
| 20:02.14 | rant | unless you want a real general answer |
| 20:03.08 | rant | notadrop: make only does what the makefile tells it based on the target you specify |
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| 20:05.57 | notadrop | oh, okay. I get it now. |
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| 20:07.16 | Maws | Did a upgrade last night on debian testing, trying to boot this morning it comes up with lots of different errors , and eventually can't boot into gnome (Failed to start gnome, among other things), going into a console works, but when trying to do an apt-get update/upgrade I get E: sub-process /usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10 returned an error code (100). E: Failure running |
| 20:07.16 | Maws | script /usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10 |
| 20:07.40 | greycat | Maws: does /bin/dash exist? |
| 20:08.24 | Maws | seem to be yea |
| 20:08.42 | greycat | so, not *that* bug then? ok... |
| 20:08.58 | Maws | or rather, no, but it executes |
| 20:09.06 | greycat | ls -ld /bin/dash |
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| 20:09.35 | Maws | no, doesn't seem to be there |
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| 20:09.46 | greycat | mv /usr/bin/dash /bin/dash |
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| 20:10.31 | Maws | and then reboot again I guess or ? |
| 20:10.38 | greycat | well, probably yeah |
| 20:10.46 | greycat | god only knows what things failed to start up |
| 20:10.48 | Maws | or just run an update/upgrade again, I'l try a reboot first |
| 20:11.03 | wigums | ive got a box thats acting up. it goes through the boot process too fast for example i dont even have time to select a usb drive to boot or at grub screen i can hit "e" and it shows the grub stuff for like 1/4 seconds and boots...everyhing on the bo x works. webserver sshd apt etc etc. why would it be booting so fast? even if i do make it into bios it boots before i can do anything. anyone have any clue how to troubleshoot this? |
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| 20:11.19 | greycat | "Welcome to testing/unstable!" |
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| 20:11.51 | Maws | thnx for the help, worked fine :) |
| 20:12.10 | wigums | im trying to sort out the blank screen but it boots faster than i can get a chance to root around |
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| 20:15.13 | annadane | i seem to not have gotten bit by the dash thing yet |
| 20:15.21 | annadane | "yet"... |
| 20:15.43 | greycat | I don't have any post-stretch systems so I only know it because it showed up on debian-user several hours ago |
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| 20:35.34 | rant | wigums: doing things like pressing 'e' or going into bios config should stop the boot process.. |
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| 20:37.14 | wigums | rant, yes they should but they arent |
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| 20:38.06 | wigums | i even just set grub timeout to -1 so it should never boot until i make a selection..... still boots in that 1/4 second |
| 20:38.19 | rant | wigums: that sounds impossible and pretty much has to be the bios doin that I would think |
| 20:38.27 | wigums | it doesnt boot in 1/4 second the menus are only up for 1/4 second |
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| 20:39.33 | wigums | yea and i cnat even get into bios. i can but its only up for about 1/2 - 1/2 second and goes to grub before i can choose any options |
| 20:39.47 | wigums | 1/4 - 1/2 |
| 20:40.29 | wigums | im ok with the box running basically headless. everything works once its booted just a blank screen |
| 20:40.42 | wigums | its annoying as a 3 year old kid in the mall |
| 20:41.28 | wigums | and its the head node of my grid "cluster" |
| 20:42.42 | wigums | and by the time the grub options show up grub has already taken over from bios and its super speedy itself |
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| 20:46.14 | wigums | https://i.imgur.com/Qd4q6yP.jpg its the one on top with the debian symbol |
| 20:46.36 | wigums | to the left is all slackware |
| 20:47.11 | wigums | thats was just a couple days ago adn you can see the monitor working is why i posted the pic |
| 20:47.27 | wigums | what happened between then and now i haz no idea |
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| 21:01.39 | DammitJim | how do I know what algorithms my ssh server supports? |
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| 21:02.52 | GNU\colossus | `ssh -vv ...`; look for "KEXINIT" ff. |
| 21:03.12 | Sbef_BigBlue | how cool is youtube dl |
| 21:03.33 | Sbef_BigBlue | i'm downloading 380 songs from my spotify playlist without premium completely legally |
| 21:03.59 | Sbef_BigBlue | i love opensource stuff |
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| 21:04.08 | SuperTramp83 | Sbef_BigBlue: not very much, now that they throttle your audio to what? 50 k? |
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| 21:04.17 | SuperTramp83 | on youtube, I mean |
| 21:05.05 | Sbef_BigBlue | SuperTramp83: i know, but i'm downloading it because my computer is not capable to run spotify client smoothly. it's fine, as long as i can listen to music! |
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| 21:22.45 | DammitJim | GNU\colossus, you mean when connecting to it? |
| 21:23.01 | greycat | Yes. Obviously you have to connect. |
| 21:23.07 | DammitJim | lol |
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| 21:27.29 | iGullyGuy | How can I get the latest Firefox on stretch? |
| 21:28.01 | greycat | If you mean quantum thingy, just download it from mozilla.com |
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| 21:32.36 | jhutchins_wk | ,v firefox |
| 21:32.37 | judd | Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 58.0-1 |
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| 21:35.31 | syntaxman | Need some help with a fresh 9.0 install. systemctl start hangs... this is preventing the installation from completing |
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| 21:36.00 | syntaxman | dbus in particular, with all dependent pkgs can't be installed. |
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| 21:36.53 | syntaxman | I did a netinst, the first part was successful. No probs until I rebooted and tried to finish up the install of pkgs. |
| 21:37.10 | dutchfish | syntaxman, any log lines that hint on what happened? |
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| 21:38.43 | dutchfish | syntaxman, if i understand you correctly the kernel boots? |
| 21:39.10 | syntaxman | yeah... tons of lines that saying: Looping too fast. Throttling back a little .. or something very close. |
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| 21:39.20 | syntaxman | dutchfish: Yes. it booted fine |
| 21:39.38 | dutchfish | syntaxman, that is probably near the end of dmesg output? |
| 21:39.43 | zomaar | Lol I installed something using tasksel and then wanted to cancel, terminated the ssh connection and then tasksel was broken |
| 21:39.57 | zomaar | but removing the task- package does not undo the damage |
| 21:39.58 | syntaxman | dutchfish: I was looking at syslog. |
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| 21:40.31 | dutchfish | syntaxman, can you post to pastebin dmesg output? (if possible) |
| 21:40.33 | grungy | Hello guys, |
| 21:40.40 | grungy | Why sudo is not in /sbin/ |
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| 21:40.44 | zomaar | So I ended up parsing history.log and feeding it to apt-get purge :p |
| 21:40.57 | greycat | grungy: because ordinary users are expected to have it in their PATH |
| 21:41.03 | dutchfish | grungy, you have to install it, perhaps? |
| 21:41.06 | syntaxman | dutchfish: not possible at the moment... dmesg doesn't seem to have any related output at all. |
| 21:41.09 | grungy | It is already installed |
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| 21:41.32 | grungy | Why my /srv/ is empty ? |
| 21:41.40 | greycat | what |
| 21:41.43 | dutchfish | syntaxman, anylogs that are relevant? |
| 21:41.45 | grungy | The forlder is empy |
| 21:41.57 | greycat | why do you think you are supposed to have a DIRECTORY named /srv |
| 21:42.02 | syntaxman | dutchfish: everytime apt gets to a place where systemctl needs to start any service, it just hangs.. no cpu spike or anything. |
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| 21:42.16 | syntaxman | dutchfish: Just the line above about looping too fast. |
| 21:42.16 | greycat | looks, sees one, has no idea what it is |
| 21:42.30 | syntaxman | dutchfish: that was all in syslog |
| 21:42.33 | grungy | Because it comes with debian and is supposed to have system services |
| 21:42.45 | greycat | This is the first time I've seen it. |
| 21:42.58 | zomaar | What is a directory? |
| 21:43.01 | zomaar | :p |
| 21:43.09 | greycat | What part of the Debian Admin Guide (or any other Debian document) discusses it and says it is supposed to have "services"? |
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| 21:43.22 | grungy | greycat, linux for dummies :P |
| 21:43.25 | syntaxman | zomaar: the old dead tree tool for finding phone numbers |
| 21:43.31 | greycat | So, it's something that exists on NON-debian systems? |
| 21:43.34 | grungy | And yes it exists, I have it on debian 8 |
| 21:43.41 | grungy | I am looking at it now |
| 21:43.42 | grungy | Anyway |
| 21:43.44 | grungy | Last question, |
| 21:44.05 | grungy | I have firewallD installed. I authorised port 22. Does it block all the remaining ports by defaut ? |
| 21:44.24 | dutchfish | syntaxman, without seing any logs (even without the ones that looks ok0 it hard to diagnose. You could delve in modules that are loaded (or not) for your particular system that are needed by systemd. I cant do anything at the moment without more input. |
| 21:45.19 | zomaar | grungy, /src is empty because you are supposed to fill it yourself |
| 21:45.23 | zomaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.30 | dutchfish | syntaxman, try to collect some logs and use pastebin |
| 21:45.36 | dutchfish | !pastebin |
| 21:45.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:45.38 | syntaxman | dutchfish: still looking for more clues... I think I'm going to see if a reboot helps at all. I hate doing Windows style admin work ;-) |
| 21:46.22 | zomaar | And when you turn on your monitor it gives an image..... |
| 21:46.23 | DammitJim | OK, I say KEX algorithms |
| 21:46.35 | DammitJim | but there are 2 lines with that |
| 21:46.46 | greycat | Google tells me that /srv is apparently something that the Linux FHS people made up 8-10 years ago that never really caught on. |
| 21:47.01 | zomaar | I just use it for snapshots |
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| 21:47.27 | greycat | DammitJim: there should be a whole BUNCH of lines with debug2: that describe all the various ciphers offered by the client, by the server, and then which ones were chosen for each role. |
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| 21:47.45 | DammitJim | oh ok |
| 21:47.49 | zomaar | But I wouldn't want base system services (packages) to use it |
| 21:47.51 | dutchfish | syntaxman, one more thought, did you use the most recent netinstaller for stable? |
| 21:48.01 | DammitJim | so where I see peer server KEXINIT proposal |
| 21:48.05 | DammitJim | that would be what the server supports, right? |
| 21:48.15 | greycat | DammitJim: don't grep. read the entire output. or just grep "debug2" and read those. |
| 21:48.35 | DammitJim | I outputed it to a file and I'm using vim to read it |
| 21:48.48 | greycat | DammitJim: oops, some of it ended up in debug1. so, don't grep debug2. |
| 21:48.56 | greycat | debug1: kex: server->client cipher: chacha20-poly1305@openssh.com MAC: <implicit> compression: none |
| 21:49.00 | greycat | and so on |
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| 21:49.30 | SuperTramp83 | iGullyGuy: you should also verify with gpg ans SHASUM the downloaded archive **before** extracting it and executing FF. You should follow the best practices for muh security when taking a hike outside your repo. |
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| 21:50.37 | greycat | debug2 shows which cipher lists were offered by each end, and debug1 shows which ones were chosen in the end |
| 21:50.49 | Tr4sK | Hey, I have some issue with my haproxy. If I curl it 3 times, it will return 3 different error |
| 21:52.13 | flux242 | so, why do you thing google switches to debian from ubuntu? |
| 21:52.20 | flux242 | think^ |
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| 21:53.11 | DammitJim | ok, so to be clear, if I need to know what algorithms the server supports, I would read the line following peer server KEXINIT proposal, right? |
| 21:53.16 | SuperTramp83 | flux242: #debian-offtopic |
| 21:53.26 | zomaar | Can I just remove debconf and reinstall it if it is broken? |
| 21:53.37 | greycat | Y U keep making me scroll back up |
| 21:53.57 | greycat | You want the section that starts with "debug2: peer server KEXINIT proposal" |
| 21:54.01 | DammitJim | LOL 'cause you love your mous |
| 21:54.03 | DammitJim | mouse* |
| 21:54.11 | DammitJim | got it |
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| 21:54.55 | zomaar | If I purge debconf will I lose all answers ever made? |
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| 21:57.59 | xz | hi there, I deployed f1-micro instance on google cloud (1vCPU/592MB RAM/10GB storage). I want to put a wordpress on it but wordpress requires SQL database. Would you know some light one that I can add to my instance? I'm planning on running very simple website with minimal to none traffic. |
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| 21:58.50 | zomaar | I guess I probably can't even remove debconf temporarily.... :-/. |
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| 21:59.40 | towo` | xz, and that has what to do with debian? |
| 22:00.02 | xz | towo` I'm on debian 9 using apt-get with debian repositories |
| 22:00.34 | greycat | "with debian repositories" frightens me |
| 22:00.58 | xz | greycat it's vanilla debian 9 image that's all I meant |
| 22:01.16 | greycat | "using apt-get with debian repositories" is the kind of thing I would expect someone to say who is actually using a derivative distribution and tried to "convert" it to Debian |
| 22:02.16 | xz | greycat I'll ask another way - do you know of any MySQL alternatives on debian that are lighter than fully-blown MariaDB? |
| 22:02.44 | towo` | sqlite? |
| 22:02.46 | greycat | The real question is, what does wordpress support/need? I don't know wordpress. |
| 22:02.53 | greycat | If you can get it to use sqlite, do so. |
| 22:02.54 | zomaar | Oh it's not debconf that was broken but just tasksel.... stupid ;-) |
| 22:03.10 | koollman | xz: have you actually tried mariadb on this instance ? |
| 22:03.39 | syntaxman | dutchfish: I used grml64. grml-debootstrap. That part of the installation went fine, though. |
| 22:04.16 | metastable | Or run a second instance for the database. |
| 22:04.24 | xz | koollman no I have not |
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| 22:04.37 | xz | koollman but generally speaking mariadb + apache would be the heaviest combo |
| 22:04.41 | koollman | xz: I think you are trying to avoid a problem you do not have yet |
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| 22:05.09 | koollman | xz: you do realize both were in use back when 128MB was a large amount of ram ? |
| 22:05.29 | dutchfish | syntaxman, you better use the official netinstaller for a clean install tho |
| 22:05.38 | koollman | (well not mariadb, but mysql) |
| 22:05.49 | xz | koollman you are right. However these days people usually use e.g. nodejs for *light* applications |
| 22:06.08 | greycat | They do? |
| 22:06.09 | xz | or flask |
| 22:06.14 | xz | or other inventions |
| 22:06.15 | koollman | xz: I've yet to see nodejs being light. or flask :) |
| 22:06.26 | koollman | xz: they are practical, or easy to use. not light |
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| 22:06.36 | dutchfish | syntaxman, https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 22:06.50 | xz | koollman apache + mariadb then it is |
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| 22:07.10 | xz | koollman I will install wordpress and configure everything and then benchmark |
| 22:07.18 | edi | xz, nothing beats nginx |
| 22:07.21 | xz | 592MB is not crazy small per todays standards |
| 22:07.29 | xz | edi or that ^^ |
| 22:07.31 | greycat | indeed it's not |
| 22:07.51 | edi | especially for wp installs etc |
| 22:07.54 | xz | edi I played with nginx the other day; it is javascript based, is it? |
| 22:07.54 | metastable | be aware that wordpress requires significant extra configuration to function properly on nginx |
| 22:08.24 | edi | xz, i suspect it has very little to do w javascript |
| 22:09.10 | koollman | xz: not at all. You could have a bit of lua in it if you want to. But it's C |
| 22:09.58 | edi | the syntax is way more elegant then apache's, yet extremely powerfull |
| 22:10.36 | koollman | xz: I just checked on some vps I have. wordpress, with mariadb and nginx and php-fpm ... 174MB currently used. apache wouldn't change things much |
| 22:10.38 | edi | easy to chain, proxy and loadbalance too :) |
| 22:11.01 | xz | koollman thanks for checking that |
| 22:13.51 | syntaxman | dutchfish: eh... all that searching for a problem.. a reboot fixed the whole thing. |
| 22:14.58 | dutchfish | syntaxman, well, the official installer would have warned you about that ;) |
| 22:16.15 | syntaxman | dutchfish: ahh.. the good ol' days when you could install with only 30 floppies and a 28.8kbps modem (40 floppies if you wanted X11) |
| 22:16.27 | syntaxman | I don't really miss 'em. |
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| 22:18.21 | syntaxman | dutchfish: the first netinst I ever did, I had to leave the modem online all night for about 4 nights in a row. |
| 22:19.07 | koollman | xz: and on a (larger :) ) drupal install, apache/mysql/php, 22MB used. have fun ;) |
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| 22:19.36 | xz | koollman that is really efficient |
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| 22:21.01 | xz | on debian 9 when installing mariadb-server I didn't have to set root password for database, weird |
| 22:21.14 | xz | now it's enough if I do sudo mysql to get it running |
| 22:21.22 | xz | it's like there is no root password for database? |
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| 22:23.46 | metastable | First, you might want to properly configure your database. Second, it should be running as a service. |
| 22:25.43 | koollman | (all that is already done when you apt-get install mariadb-server) |
| 22:25.57 | xz | metastable yes; it's running as a service |
| 22:26.08 | xz | metastable debian makes it easy these days with that kind of stuff which I'm really grateful for |
| 22:26.31 | xz | mysql as a command is just a client console to connect to a database |
| 22:28.22 | xz | I don't knwo yet how to user metapackage 'wordpress' as I installed it and now I'm still configuring everything manually... |
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| 22:29.18 | xz | found a wiki https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress#Basic_Installation_guide_for_Wheezy !!! |
| 22:30.42 | `Kevin | WP makes me sad :| |
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| 22:31.11 | xz | why is that? |
| 22:31.31 | xz | I need super simple landing page with capability to track traffic (geo locations/count) |
| 22:31.51 | xz | seems like wordpress is the best tool for that kind of job |
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| 22:32.57 | metastable | For a landing page? WordPress is super bloated for this. |
| 22:33.55 | grungy | Guys, I found this on my auth.log |
| 22:33.56 | grungy | Jan 24 23:22:33 server10237 sshd[9642]: Bad protocol version identification 'GET http://check2.zennolab.com/proxy.php HTTP/1.1' from 62.210.146.245 port 55669 |
| 22:33.56 | grungy | Jan 24 23:22:47 server10237 sshd[9643]: Did not receive identification string from 62.210.146.245 |
| 22:34.01 | `Kevin | xz i suppose my biggest issue is that it is one of the most commonly attacked and thus hacked CMSs |
| 22:34.02 | grungy | What does it mean ? |
| 22:34.20 | xz | metastable what do you recommend then? |
| 22:34.36 | metastable | Wordpress itself isn't terrible. Most Wordpress compromises I've accomplished were through addons. |
| 22:34.37 | xz | metastable I don't want simple index.html as that would require me to develop custom extension for tracking traffic |
| 22:34.52 | xz | `Kevin what would you recommend then? |
| 22:34.55 | `Kevin | grungy: looks like someone tried to connect to your sshd port using a HTTP client? |
| 22:34.58 | metastable | xz: So find an existing solution for this and add whatever code block is necessary to your index. |
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| 22:35.04 | xz | I can take some precautions |
| 22:35.30 | xz | like run it on 8080 as user with restricted permissions instead of root, configure load balancer on google cloud etc. |
| 22:35.56 | xz | and then I never know if I won't have to add extra stuff to that landing page, so might be easier to invest more time/resources now than later |
| 22:36.07 | metastable | Be aware that changing ports isn't an effective countermeasure. That goes for almost any service. |
| 22:36.36 | xz | metastable in that case it allows me to run wordpress as user instead of root, so that's significant improvement I would say |
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| 22:37.28 | metastable | xz: You don't run wordpress as anything. You run your webserver as something. How do you think apache attaches to 80/443 without running as root? It drops root privileges as soon as the port is opened. |
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| 22:38.16 | digdilem | apache runs as the user www-data on debian by default, not as root - just as metastable says |
| 22:38.22 | xz | metastable oh, so apache already takes care of that? I was running recently couple non-apache based services, like flask on command line and few others and I had to think about that then |
| 22:38.44 | metastable | xz: If you run it interactively, it runs as whatever user you run it as in most cases. Services are handled more sanely. |
| 22:39.15 | xz | metastable fair play. so you still think pure index.html is the safest? |
| 22:39.36 | xz | metastable I will check on google cloud dashboard if it doesn't have built-in tracking capabilities |
| 22:39.43 | metastable | Yes. If you need a full-blown CMS later, consider it. For now, stick to the basic requirement. |
| 22:40.37 | `Kevin | xz google analytics or something? just add the js tracker to your html |
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| 22:41.34 | xz | by the way, AWS free tier seems much better explained and easier to use and configure than google cloud |
| 22:41.58 | metastable | Any public cloud provider is going to require the same general skills and concepts to operate securely, efficiently, and effectively. |
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| 22:55.38 | grungy | 'Kevin, why would someone do that ? |
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| 23:08.17 | sir_wombat | Hey there. Is there any way to install a current wine on a debian stretch? |
| 23:08.19 | Fearful | I'm using vmware, running debian with xfce. after about 7 hours of run time the desktop tends to go grey, icons disappear, and can' right click. any idea what is causing it? |
| 23:08.28 | Fearful | using open-vm-tools and desktop |
| 23:08.46 | Fearful | the taskbar and everything else works fine. it's just the desktop |
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| 23:28.05 | rant | sir_wombat: one of those and maybe both playonlinux or winetricks things is designed for specifically being able to build bottles with different versions of wine |
| 23:29.20 | rant | sir_wombat: its been years, so sorry I dont recall specifically but I want to say it was playonlinux that was able to download any version of wine and let you create a bottle for a specific program. |
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| 23:30.56 | somiaj | sir_wombat: the winehq.org packages seem to be fairly good, I'm currently using 2.20-staging or whatever the current version is from there. |
| 23:31.30 | somiaj | sir_wombat: the winehq.org packages don't integrate into debian as nicely as the offical debian packages, but provided you don't have the debian packages intsalled (for conflicts) the winehq packages seem to work just fine on my system and I haven't noticed any bad issues with using them on stretch. |
| 23:31.55 | somiaj | rant: playonlinux biggest advantage is the download any version, it is easy to bottle wine with WINEPREFIX. |
| 23:32.01 | rant | https://www.playonlinux.com/en/ the wine versions screenshot under "I'd like to learn more about PlayOnLinux" seems to be what I recall |
| 23:32.49 | rant | yeah its handy because you could easily test things with numerous different wine releases |
| 23:32.49 | somiaj | I have always compiled my own wine for years, but have been using the winehq.org packages for about a year now on stretch with no issues. |
| 23:33.16 | somiaj | rant: without having to compile each of the versions....I had a manual setup once that did that. mostly because I dno't like how playonlinux does things. |
| 23:33.25 | somiaj | the first being, they give me a gui. |
| 23:33.44 | sir_wombat | somiaj: The installation as suggested on winehq.org doesn't even work. It has problems with dependencies. |
| 23:34.14 | somiaj | sir_wombat: what do you mean? did you download the .deb or use the winehq.org sources. The winehq.org sources work just fine for me. |
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| 23:34.59 | somiaj | you need multiple packages for it all to work, and the winehq version links both 64bit and 32bit together in a different way than debian. So downloading .debs would be annoying, but using their sources with apt worked just fine for me. |
| 23:35.05 | somiaj | (provided I removed all the debian wine packages first) |
| 23:35.11 | sir_wombat | somiaj: I set up the repository and tried to install through aptitude. |
| 23:35.32 | somiaj | care to share your sources.list or the output of apt policy, and also did you remove all the debian wine packages first? |
| 23:35.42 | rant | I could dig up an old free version of crossover if that's of any interest to ya.. several years ago when GWB was still president of the US they had a lame duck presitendial challenge and said if any of their conditions were met they'd release their software for free till the end of the month.. I grabbed a copy when the gas prices fell below $3/gal |
| 23:35.45 | sir_wombat | sure, hang on |
| 23:36.14 | somiaj | sir_wombat: note winehq.org packages aren't really supported here. But they seem to work just fine for me in stretch. The other option is compile wine yourself (what I use to do for years until I switched to winehq.org packages) |
| 23:36.53 | somiaj | rant: though most likely the newer wine version works better than that older crossover for many of the office apps now. :/ |
| 23:37.28 | sir_wombat | I just need MS Office, which should work with wine 2.0 |
| 23:37.40 | somiaj | what version? |
| 23:37.46 | sir_wombat | But debian is still at 1.x :/ |
| 23:37.49 | somiaj | no |
| 23:37.50 | sir_wombat | 2013 |
| 23:37.52 | somiaj | ,v debian-development |
| 23:37.53 | judd | No package named 'debian-development' was found in amd64. |
| 23:37.57 | somiaj | ,v wine-development |
| 23:37.58 | judd | Package: wine-development on amd64 -- jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 2.0-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.0-3; buster: 3.0~rc1-1; sid: 3.0~rc1-1; sid: 3.0~rc6-1 |
| 23:38.06 | rant | possibly.. and that being said I should consider trying that for my father cause he's been fairly content on Debian for awhile now but his MS Office 2003 is one thing he still wanted.. and I got it currently running on that old crossover and its got a few issues |
| 23:38.06 | somiaj | stretch has 2.0-3 |
| 23:38.41 | somiaj | sir_wombat: I ended up using 2007, as that was the most stable with wine (not crossover) on the newer versions. This may have improved, but last I checked was about the 2.0 release. |
| 23:39.08 | sir_wombat | This is my sources.list: https://pastebin.com/BELRuMTd |
| 23:39.18 | somiaj | rant: the newer wine may work fine, I use office 2007 just fine with wine 2.0 |
| 23:39.33 | sir_wombat | basically standard + the wine repo |
| 23:39.40 | rant | that whole mess is one reason I havent upgraded him from jessie yet |
| 23:39.57 | sir_wombat | I don't have a 2007 :/ |
| 23:40.01 | rant | didn't know how it'd effect his current setup with office |
| 23:40.14 | somiaj | sir_wombat: that should work, but as I said their packages seem to conflict with the debian ones, you will have to actually fix the conflicts. |
| 23:40.49 | somiaj | sir_wombat: 2013 may work, but when I was looking into it (my deparment has various versions), everything I read at the time (few years ago) was 2007 is the newest version that runs well in wine (without crossover) |
| 23:42.26 | sir_wombat | trying to install wine-stable gives me: https://pastebin.com/3d5p378W |
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| 23:43.46 | foul_owl | It looks like xrandr is not letting me set the refresh rate to a non-integer value |
| 23:44.22 | sir_wombat | aptitude versions wine yields only 1.8.7-2 |
| 23:44.26 | hiexpo | Hey all trying to setup go in debian 9 installed it but when i try to run it go command not found |
| 23:46.32 | abrotman | hiexpo: and which packages did you install? |
| 23:48.01 | hiexpo | abrotman, golang-1.8 |
| 23:48.23 | abrotman | and it pulled in other packages? |
| 23:49.04 | hiexpo | just golang-go and golang-1.8dev |
| 23:49.40 | abrotman | You mean golang-1.8-go ? |
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| 23:49.53 | hiexpo | abrotman, yes |
| 23:50.22 | abrotman | hiexpo: dpkg -l golang-1.8-go | grep bin .. see any binaries to try? |
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| 23:51.12 | hiexpo | abrotman, okay I removed it so let me install again |
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| 23:54.27 | hiexpo | abrotman, nothing |
| 23:55.38 | abrotman | nothign what? |
| 23:56.31 | abrotman | hiexpo: pastebin the output of `dpkg -l golang-1.8-go ; dpkg -L golang-1.8-go | grep bin` |
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| 23:58.51 | fredl | hi folks, for some strange reason after rebooting my PC I no longer seem to have virtual desktops |
| 23:59.09 | fredl | And several things in the GNOME settings have been greyed out |
| 23:59.21 | fredl | Any clue what may cause that? |
| 23:59.42 | hiexpo | abrotman, https://pastebin.com/amn2QvgU |
