| 00:00.27 | coruja | abrotman, you meant -L? |
| 00:00.49 | abrotman | on the first, no. second, yes |
| 00:01.11 | abrotman | hiexpo: that bin doesn't work ? |
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| 00:01.43 | fredl | Oh.... I do know what else I changed, I connected another keyboard |
| 00:04.14 | hiexpo | abrotman, no and when i type go version i get ~bash: go: command not found |
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| 00:24.45 | hiexpo | abrotman, think i got it fixed |
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| 00:27.06 | donofrio-g5 | anyone know who packaged remmina (only ask cause I'm getting an error - https://apaste.info/uTgv) |
| 00:27.49 | coruja | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/remmina |
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| 00:30.12 | sir_wombat | somiaj: So now I'm using a 32bit Office 2013 with a 32bit wineprefix with the wine out of debian stretch stable. This seems to work. |
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| 00:43.31 | nirakara | hi. i'm using stretch. I've installed python-virtualenv python-virtualenvwrapper and I have done `sudo pip install virtualenvwrapper` |
| 00:44.03 | nirakara | I have the `virtualenv` command available to me, but for some reason the virtualenvwrapper scripts such as `mkvirtualenv` etc. are not in my path |
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| 00:44.20 | nirakara | does anyone know how this might be solved |
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| 00:52.14 | rant | nirakara: idk what that is, but I know you shouldn't have installed it through the package manager and through pip |
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| 00:58.52 | rant | nirakara: I can also tell you that packages starting with python- are the python modules not utilities that work with them |
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| 01:05.07 | nirakara | rant: indeed, it's those particular modules that I'm looking for |
| 01:05.46 | rant | nirakara: right, I get that but my preliminary thought is that you fubarred something by installing it through the package manager and then running pip install |
| 01:06.13 | rant | mkvirtualenv is not found on packages.debian.org |
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| 01:07.17 | rant | when you need a python module you check your package manager first.. and install it from there.. pip should only be used to install something if its not already packaged |
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| 02:03.51 | Oksana | nirakara: if that double-install is indeed the reason for fubar, then feel free to `sudo pip uninstall virtualenvwrapper`, and then reinstall python-virtualenvwrapper and then check availability of `virtualenv` and `mkvirtualenv` commands to you |
| 02:04.21 | Oksana | is just reckoning that reinstall would be able to heal any problems that double-install may have caused |
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| 02:41.34 | FightingFalcon | how do i install grub from windows 10? |
| 02:42.26 | DerLGm | FightingFalcon: you mean have grub bootloader just for win 10? |
| 02:43.22 | FightingFalcon | DerLGm, i have windows 10 in drive C... I installed linux to the other hard disk. But grub couldnt detect windows so, i didnt install it when i was installing debian. Now i cant boot into debian. it goes directly into windows |
| 02:44.57 | DerLGm | How are you installing Debian and how did u install 10? What formats, partitions, etc |
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| 02:48.06 | DerLGm | FightingFalcon: did you ? http://lmgtfy.com/?s=d&q=Grub+not+detecting+windows |
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| 03:44.09 | [Ex0r] | Hello, could somebody please help me? I just installed debian 9 with no GUI, and I am trying to manually configure my eth0 network card to a static IP address. After I edit /etc/network/interfaces and attempt to ifup eth0, I get a 'inet expected rather than' error |
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| 03:47.12 | [Ex0r] | This is what I am using |
| 03:47.12 | [Ex0r] | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1077a62c/ |
| 03:48.09 | [Ex0r] | Can somebody explain to me what is going wrong? I have looked at about 30 guides and they all say to do the same thing |
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| 03:50.47 | magyar | hi, I'm betting a bunch of these messages when I start virtmanager >> https://bpaste.net/show/2bbc22579950 |
| 03:50.55 | magyar | s/betting/getting |
| 03:51.38 | magyar | my OS version >> debian stretch with back-ports enabled |
| 03:52.22 | [Ex0r] | God this is fricking ridiculous. Not EVERYTHING needs to be on auto pilot |
| 03:53.04 | magyar | [Ex0r]: I think the networking is managed by systemd Network Manager |
| 03:53.25 | [Ex0r] | I am using a lightweight install, and network manager doesn't appear to be installed. |
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| 03:53.41 | [Ex0r] | I don't have X or a GUI installed |
| 03:53.42 | magyar | hmm |
| 03:53.48 | mischmerz | [Ex0r], Welcome in the club. Linux has become ridiculous. |
| 03:54.04 | [Ex0r] | According to every document I've read, what I am doing is exactly what you are supposed to do. |
| 03:54.52 | qman__ | [Ex0r]: 249 is not a valid value for subnet mask - you'd need 255, 254, 252, 248, ... |
| 03:55.14 | [Ex0r] | qman__: 249 is the same value I have been using on all of my other installations |
| 03:55.22 | qman__ | it's not valid |
| 03:55.25 | magyar | [Ex0r]: /30 |
| 03:56.15 | qman__ | subnet mask is, in binary, all ones, followed by zeroes - 249 is 11111001 |
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| 03:58.28 | [Ex0r] | qman__: Okay, that error solved (weird it is only a problem on this distro), however now 'ip address' is showing other issues |
| 03:58.34 | qman__ | 249 will not work on any system |
| 03:58.45 | qman__ | either you're mistaken, or the system corrected or ignored it |
| 03:59.05 | [Ex0r] | qman__: It's working on other systems, so either the system corrected it, or it fixed it automatically. Regardless it's what I've been using. |
| 04:00.17 | [Ex0r] | I do believe there's another network manager installed. Bringing down eth0 and using 'ip address' still shows the OLD dhcp address that I removed |
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| 04:01.26 | qman__ | did you release the lease through the DHCP client, or did you just delete the address? |
| 04:01.38 | qman__ | because if you just delete it, the DHCP client will renew it |
| 04:02.06 | [Ex0r] | qman__: the client on the machine itself? I removed the line from interfaces that asks it to use dhcp and restarted networking |
| 04:02.34 | qman__ | yeah, that won't release it |
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| 04:03.12 | qman__ | dhclient -r |
| 04:03.16 | qman__ | if you're using dhclient |
| 04:03.25 | qman__ | also, rebooting will clear it out |
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| 04:04.04 | [Ex0r] | yeah ,that's what I ran. It's still listing in 'ip address' though, along with the static one I assigned it |
| 04:04.05 | qman__ | in future, if you do ifdown first, then edit the interfaces file, then ifup, that will work as expected |
| 04:04.17 | [Ex0r] | that's what I did, it did not work. |
| 04:04.27 | _systemd_is_evil | removing systemd should help to solve this particular issue |
| 04:04.30 | qman__ | that's not what you said you did |
| 04:04.42 | mischmerz | _systemd_is_evil, :D |
| 04:04.54 | qman__ | the key point here is that you have to run ifdown while it's still set to DHCP, so that it will release the address |
| 04:05.04 | qman__ | if you change interfaces first, it doesn't know to do that |
| 04:05.21 | [Ex0r] | I didn't know I needed to outline every single step I took, I assumed some of it was already common assumption. |
| 04:05.45 | qman__ | you specifically stated that you edited first, then restarted networking, which doesn't release the address |
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| 04:05.53 | [Ex0r] | The first step before making any changes should always be to stop the service/provider then make changes. I figured that was implied otherwords I would have exclusively said it. |
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| 04:08.17 | qman__ | that's not always the case, and not even always best practice, depending on the service |
| 04:08.25 | qman__ | it cannot be assumed |
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| 04:10.03 | qman__ | for example, changing web server configs is typically done without stopping the web server, and issuing a reload command, in order to keep the web server online |
| 04:11.48 | rant | yeah it is dependant on the case.. some things load their configs at start and write back to them at close.. so changes made while running could be overwritten.. I think transmission-daemon is one that does that |
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| 04:41.56 | awal1 | How can I "make" a .old file for bash history? |
| 04:42.23 | rant | awal1: you mean automatically extend the length of the history? |
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| 04:44.41 | rant | awal1: if this is what you are trying to do you set HISTSIZE in .bashrc to a number less than zero and use a cronjob or logrotate or something of the sort to just periodically make .histort.1.gz or such files |
| 04:47.01 | awal1 | rant, sorry, I got distracted. not what I wanted; I already have HISTSIZE=10000 and HISTFILESIZE=20000. I wante dto know how to make a .histort.1.gz, .2 and so |
| 04:47.40 | awal1 | ok, so cronjob/logrotate is a way? |
| 04:48.19 | rant | awal1: well logrotate is a package that uses cronjobs to rotate log files in that manner, yes.. I'm sure there are others and its trivial to do yourself |
| 04:48.49 | awal1 | rant, ok; I'll look at that, thanks |
| 04:49.03 | rant | if I recall correctly logrotate can not only work on time but also size of the logs |
| 04:50.11 | awal1 | and yes, I have seen a number less than 0 in man bash, but not sure which number exactly I cn put for HISTSIZE AND HISTFILESIZE. somethig like -1 ? |
| 04:50.57 | rant | the docs seem to indicate that anything under zero is unlimited, and zero means no history at all |
| 04:51.48 | awal1 | not sure, since not able to check instantaneously |
| 04:52.49 | rant | well prior to bash 4.3 youd have to set the vars to an empty string, after that -1 is fine |
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| 05:01.32 | awal1 | ,v bash |
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| 06:27.43 | trevorj | Hi lovely people |
| 06:28.05 | trevorj | For many years I have wondered what the exact meanings are between `-`, `+`, and `~` |
| 06:28.33 | trevorj | I know when to use them at times just from experience, but I don't know what their purposes come from besides their version resolution order |
| 06:29.08 | trevorj | And this has proven elusive for me to find in the docs, but I could just not know where to look to be honest, can you help my curiosity? |
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| 06:56.23 | alkisg | trevorj: hi, read this: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#version |
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| 07:02.46 | wr417h | why debian has separate -dev and -dbg packages where some distributions like Arch don't have it |
| 07:03.21 | wr417h | I know what -dev packages are, but why they are separated? |
| 07:04.17 | wr417h | any fair technical reason |
| 07:04.18 | wr417h | ? |
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| 07:17.33 | jolt | wr417h: Contains a lot of headers used for compiling other software. Not used for just using the software |
| 07:18.07 | jolt | wr417h: Because they add extra space. Debug symbols are often not even used for compiling other software, but for debugging the software itself |
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| 07:22.26 | CTZEN | jolt: I know that -dev pkgs includes header files |
| 07:22.53 | CTZEN | jolt: But Arch and Gentoo includes them by default,but not debian? |
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| 07:23.54 | CTZEN | @jolt I know that -dev pkgs includes header files, But some minimal distros Arch and Gentoo includes them by default,but not debian? |
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| 07:36.31 | dtux | is /var/local a reasonable place to make arbitrary directories? |
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| 07:39.00 | alkisg | man hier =>/var/local= Variable data for /usr/local., and /usr/local: This is where programs which are local to the site typically go. |
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| 07:41.41 | dtux | alkisg: im thinking of moving some torrents there (variable data for Transmission?) in a directory called "transmission" |
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| 07:42.36 | dtux | is that a bad idea because transmission might want to put other data there and collide? |
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| 07:45.32 | alkisg | dtux: I assume you're talking about transmission server (web managed etc), not the ui that some user runs, right? |
| 07:49.33 | dtux | alkisg: eh, that's not what i was thinking, but that would make the most sense (i.e. a system service, not for a particular user) |
| 07:50.21 | dtux | in my case, the torrents are for me, but im the only user on this system |
| 07:50.30 | alkisg | I'd put them under /home/username then |
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| 07:54.09 | dtux | but if i were running it as a system service? |
| 07:55.01 | alkisg | Personally I would put data for all users (such as .torrents and movies) under /home/Public or some other common directory |
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| 08:02.06 | dtux | ty |
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| 08:27.27 | jolt | dtux: I try to use /usr/local for stuff like program-related stuff, the binaries and libs etc. If it's data thats changing and not really part of stuff that needed for your system to run, then I would use /srv or /opt. Those are empty by default also |
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| 09:07.08 | ws2k3 | is there any tool that can check/monitor hardware raid on linux? i know eatch raid manufacturere provides own tools but all tools also show different outputs/commands and i have alot of different controllers that i ould like to monitor or do i just need to script it all together? |
| 09:09.17 | k01101011 | mdadm is the only thing I can think of |
| 09:09.56 | ws2k3 | k01101011 i think mdadm only does software raid? |
| 09:09.58 | k01101011 | Oh hardware raid hum not sure mdadm is for software raid |
| 09:10.18 | k01101011 | yeah sorry |
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| 09:14.45 | petn-randall | ws2k3: Personally, I ignore all kinds of HW RAID and just use mdadm. The largest performance boost you get with the write-back cache from your RAID controller. And I always hated the bugs most firmware updates brought. |
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| 09:19.02 | k01101011 | yeah zfs with flavors of raidz is the thing now a days, freenas |
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| 09:21.59 | ws2k3 | petn-randall yeah i understand ur point but HW raid is just handy it allways works etc cause the OS just sees one disk |
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| 09:24.08 | petn-randall | ws2k3: I'd argue the other way around. mdadm "just works" since it's been available since the dawn of age in Linux, whereas I've already lost data in the past due to firmware updates that broke the HW RAID. |
| 09:25.18 | petn-randall | ws2k3: And if the controller ever breaks, with mdadm you just pop those disks into another machine and you can read the data. With HW RAID you often need the exact same controller with the same firmware version. |
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| 09:31.00 | ws2k3 | petn-randall hmm. i cant argue with that and i think you might be right. but i allways just used hw raid cause its easyer. but you have some good points. will take it into consideration for the future |
| 09:31.17 | ws2k3 | petn-randall also mdadm makes centrel monitoring easyer if you have alot of machines |
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| 09:41.34 | pingfloyd | so handy it does work unless you run the stack the proprietary hardware manufacturer dictates to |
| 09:41.55 | pingfloyd | s/does/doesn't/ |
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| 09:56.13 | darxmurf | fond some files from 2038 on my server... :D |
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| 09:57.50 | darxmurf | found |
| 10:00.14 | petn-randall | ws2k3: Indeed. Only downside is that the write-back cache isn't used as effectively. For example, when using RAID1 with mdadm, the cache size is halves, since it's keeping the (duplicated) data for both disks. So if your machine is performance critical and already at the limit, HW RAID still might more sense. |
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| 10:09.56 | pingfloyd | darxmurf: did your future self make them? |
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| 10:23.00 | darxmurf | probably |
| 10:23.11 | darxmurf | I'll travel in time to check that |
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| 10:34.43 | High_Priest | guys, how long does it usually take to fix a bug that got into a stable release? |
| 10:35.36 | darxmurf | depends of the bug :D |
| 10:35.55 | darxmurf | I submited a bug report months ago in cifs-utils and nothing moved since that |
| 10:35.56 | High_Priest | it's a intel graphics kernel bug not present in 4.9.0.3 and started with 4.9.0.4 |
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| 10:58.50 | Wikiwide | Since when does removal of python mean removal of apper and libreoffice?.. I am on 64bit Stretch, yes. |
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| 11:02.53 | trevorj | @ws2k3: something else -- performance can be better when the OS is aware of each spindle, since it can schedule things better that way. eg, ZFS |
| 11:03.33 | Wikiwide | By the way, upgrading firefox&iceweasel in absence of apt-listchanges fails. Means at least one of them should depend on apt-listchanges (which happens to depend on python3-apt)? |
| 11:03.46 | trevorj | Hardware raid also requires tldr drives for the most part, which means one error and your drive is kicked out of your array(s) |
| 11:04.04 | trevorj | Stats are exceedingly subpar with every hw raid available |
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| 11:05.03 | trevorj | I quit using hw raid a very long time ago after losing data across multiple arrays over time |
| 11:05.13 | trevorj | I'm just good on all that now |
| 11:05.31 | trevorj | Never had an issue with mdadm (or zfs for that matter) |
| 11:06.00 | darxmurf | trevorj: hum which brand did you use ? |
| 11:06.10 | trevorj | name it, I've probably used it |
| 11:06.34 | darxmurf | never ever had any issues on more than 1500 servers with PERC/LSI/ARECA cards |
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| 11:06.55 | trevorj | LSI is what I lost data with. |
| 11:07.02 | darxmurf | weird |
| 11:07.23 | trevorj | too many disks got kicked out of the array at once |
| 11:07.33 | darxmurf | firmware issue ? |
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| 11:07.49 | trevorj | It was up to date, I am unsure. |
| 11:07.56 | trevorj | This was ~8 years ago now. |
| 11:08.00 | darxmurf | ah okay |
| 11:08.24 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Highly doubt that. Can you provide the following in a single paste? |
| 11:08.25 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 11:08.26 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 11:08.36 | trevorj | What I was left with was silent corruption across some of the pairs in a raid10 |
| 11:08.54 | trevorj | I don't know how it happened, trust me I tried to figure it out for three days |
| 11:08.59 | trevorj | lol |
| 11:09.30 | trevorj | Another failure was across a dell san |
| 11:09.30 | JyZyXEL | how do you give Crontab DBus access to a KDE session? |
| 11:09.37 | darxmurf | the only issue I saw was a serious firmware issue that caused a glitch in the data managment and killed the whole array |
| 11:09.49 | darxmurf | but it was like 10 years ago |
| 11:10.04 | JyZyXEL | 'DISPLAY=:0 qdbus' used to be enough in jessie, but doesn't work on stretch any more |
| 11:10.04 | darxmurf | and the tech at this time postponed the firmware upgrade 10 times :D |
| 11:10.09 | trevorj | It also just silently corrupted in a raid5 array, which I had made the client sign off that they were not taking my rec to use at least raid6 |
| 11:10.18 | trevorj | lucky I did that |
| 11:10.20 | trevorj | lol |
| 11:10.26 | trevorj | 10 times!? |
| 11:10.26 | darxmurf | anyway, even with RAID you need backups :-) |
| 11:10.32 | trevorj | oh yeah, we had them |
| 11:10.37 | trevorj | it just was not optimal |
| 11:10.41 | petn-randall | darxmurf, trevorj, can we move the RAID discussion over to #debian-offtopic? |
| 11:10.52 | darxmurf | I'll move to lunch first :-) |
| 11:10.58 | trevorj | Yeah, I'll move to bed |
| 11:11.05 | petn-randall | waves. |
| 11:11.14 | trevorj | ;) |
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| 11:13.13 | Wikiwide | petn-randall : I am doing it in synaptic, so providing 1 is difficult. 2 should be doable |
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| 11:21.26 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: For 1) you can add the detailed summary synaptic shows. |
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| 11:27.08 | Wikiwide | 2 is not accessible because I have already uninstalled firefox |
| 11:27.17 | Wikiwide | And apper, too |
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| 11:29.29 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Do you have the output of the error you get when upgrading firefox and iceweasel without apt-listchanges? I can't reproduce your problem. |
| 11:31.04 | Wikiwide | /me thinks that firefox and-or iceweasel has a line in either purge, remove or upgrade script that references apt-listchanges |
| 11:31.32 | Wikiwide | /me has restarted synaptic a few times, so location of logs is unknown |
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| 11:34.11 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: I'm 100% sure that's not the case. But it's hard to debug without any data to work on. |
| 11:34.58 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Let us know when you can somehow reproduce the problem again, then you can show us the logs. |
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| 11:35.15 | Wikiwide | /me nods |
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| 11:58.56 | jordila | umh, from my ignorance, regarding LinuX Containers ( LXC ) ... i' trying to figure it out on the wiki... is now Stretch using 'standalone lxc' or the new libvirt library ? |
| 11:59.07 | Wikiwide | Look for apt-listchanges at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844476 , and the dpkg-preinstall-pkgs will be very similar to the problematic line I met when tying to purge firefox-esr |
| 11:59.08 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/844476 in apt (open): «apt: "apt autoremove --purge" reports different status (# of pkgs to upgrade) than "apt upgrade"»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-11-16; last modified: 2016-11-19. |
| 11:59.10 | jordila | ... my guess is.. the latter ? |
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| 12:01.47 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Those settings are set by apt-listchanges, not by firefox. So I doubt firefox has anything to do with your problem (that you haven't shown us yet in a meaningful way). |
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| 12:22.42 | BanHammor | hmm, apt-get source <package> doesn't work for me, here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: https://paste.ee/p/xO9S6 |
| 12:23.09 | BanHammor | says "You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list" |
| 12:23.11 | petn-randall | !doesnt work |
| 12:23.11 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 12:23.29 | BanHammor | two seconds, petn-randall :) |
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| 12:23.41 | petn-randall | BanHammor: Yes, you need to add some deb-src lines. |
| 12:24.08 | BanHammor | i posted my sources.list in that link, i don't understand what else it wants from me |
| 12:24.29 | shtrb | ,v intel-microcode |
| 12:24.30 | judd | Package: intel-microcode on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 1.20150121.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 3.20161104.1~deb8u1~bpo7+1; jessie-backports/non-free: 3.20170511.1~bpo8+1; jessie/non-free: 3.20170707.1~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 3.20170707.1~deb9u1; jessie-backports-sloppy/non-free: 3.20171117.1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/non-free: 3.20171117.1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: |
| 12:24.31 | judd | 3.20180108.1+really20171117.1; sid/non-free: 3.20180108.1+really20171117.1 |
| 12:24.52 | shtrb | lol , thanks |
| 12:25.14 | petn-randall | BanHammor: Are you sure you should be running testing when you need to ask those kind of questions? |
| 12:26.41 | BanHammor | Would the question not arise in stable? |
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| 12:27.28 | petn-randall | BanHammor: No, but we expect people to know some basics before jumping into beta-testing buster. |
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| 12:28.43 | petn-randall | !deb-src testing |
| 12:28.43 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the testing release is: "deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
| 12:29.52 | BanHammor | Cool, thanks. |
| 12:31.30 | BanHammor | The error's language seems like a UX issue to me tbh. |
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| 12:33.24 | antena-cli | How can I turn my headphone volume even higher? I've tried alsamixer, pavucontrol and even a trick with VLC, turning the volume to 200%. But for some YouTube videos the sound is still low. My headphone is connected to my motherboard, and I use Debian 9.3 stretch (stable). |
| 12:33.27 | petn-randall | BanHammor: It's documented in 'man sources.list', btw. |
| 12:33.43 | Wikiwide | petn-randall : I was able to purge firefox-esr by now, reinstalling dpkg might have had something to do with that. |
| 12:35.05 | petn-randall | antena-cli: You should be able to turn it up to 200% in playback or output devices. |
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| 12:39.32 | antena-cli | petn-randall: Everything is at maximum volume - https://i.imgur.com/wtd8ix3.png |
| 12:40.03 | petn-randall | antena-cli: That's not pavucontrol, though. |
| 12:40.12 | petn-randall | oh wait, nvm |
| 12:41.50 | petn-randall | antena-cli: Does the perceived volume change when turning it up and down? |
| 12:42.03 | antena-cli | Yes. |
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| 12:43.00 | antena-cli | I think if I could put the volume in 300% it would be good enough. |
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| 12:45.23 | petn-randall | antena-cli: Something might be broken (HW or SW) on your end. If I turn anything above 30% on my headphones, my ears start to bleed. |
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| 12:47.07 | antena-cli | petn-randall: Oh, well... Thanks my dude! |
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| 13:04.04 | Wikiwide | Getting display manager and window manager and desktop to play nicely with each other has to be staff of nightmares. I am currently trying lxdm, it's not as beautiful as sddm though. |
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| 13:04.50 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Most people just install a meta package and are happy with it. |
| 13:06.02 | Wikiwide | Which metapackage is gtk2+ oriented? No gtk3+, qt, qml, python (I am being picky), tk, enlightenment, fltk... |
| 13:06.31 | Iridos | anten⦠oh well |
| 13:06.42 | Wikiwide | /me is interested in sawfish and matchbox-desktop, to an extent |
| 13:07.41 | Wikiwide | Does synaptic depend on systemd? |
| 13:09.04 | Iridos | what does it have to play together anyway |
| 13:09.12 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Both questions can be answered by looking at the package dependencies. |
| 13:10.15 | Wikiwide | apt-cache depends synaptic isn't sufficient, I would have to see a tree. Aptitude may help... |
| 13:11.45 | petn-randall | Wikiwide: Well, just recurse all the way down. |
| 13:12.27 | Wikiwide | Iridos : ideally, standard protocols would allow to match any login manager, any window manager, any panels/widgets, and so on |
| 13:12.51 | Wikiwide | petn-randall : many branches in a tree |
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| 13:13.01 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
| 13:13.19 | Wikiwide | Will look at it later, it's midnight here |
| 13:13.32 | Wikiwide | Thank you :-) |
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| 13:17.58 | Iridos | I don't see what that does for one |
| 13:18.34 | Iridos | judd, why synaptic systemd |
| 13:18.37 | judd | Packages synaptic and systemd in stretch/amd64 are linked by 1 chains: synaptic ⶠpolicykit-1 ⶠlibpam-systemd ⶠsystemd |
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| 13:19.52 | Iridos | petn-randall, judd can do that kind of stuff⦠just took me too long to figure the syntax out |
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| 13:26.00 | darxmurf | hmm is there a way to launch a ldapsearch against 2 bases at the same time ? like -b "(&(dc=blabla,o=edu)(dc=plop,o=edu))" ? |
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| 13:26.36 | petn-randall | darxmurf: Not that I know of. You can just run the command twice with different bases, though. |
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| 13:27.40 | darxmurf | ah wait, I can run a global search then filter with something else |
| 13:27.43 | darxmurf | thanks :-) |
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| 13:32.46 | tw | (|()()) |
| 13:32.49 | tw | or |
| 13:33.06 | tw | though it doesn't get you the intersect which is what you want, on rereading |
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| 13:34.04 | martin-_-_ | hi |
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| 13:34.12 | martin-_-_ | can I just rm /var/log ? |
| 13:34.25 | martin-_-_ | the log files should be created after the services are restarted right? |
| 13:35.19 | tw | unless the service is badly written, yes. It might not have permissions to create a subdirectory if it opens the log as a non-root user. |
| 13:35.23 | FinalX | I'd recommend against it. You could technically delete most files, but a lot of them are open by many system processes and would need restarting in order to make them be reopened. |
| 13:35.52 | petn-randall | martin-_-_: I don't think /var/log gets recreated. Also, rsyslog will likely still keep the files open, so you won't free any space until it's restarted. |
| 13:36.07 | martin-_-_ | hm okay |
| 13:36.16 | FinalX | And yeah, you would have to take care of the directories existing and with the correct permissions. Many are only created upon package installation and log files themselves are opened by worker processes not running as root, like tw said. |
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| 13:36.54 | annadane | where's the configuation file in debian to toggle whether daemons automatically get started upon installation of a package? |
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| 13:37.08 | FinalX | If you wanna get rid of the content of the logs, you could consider truncating the *.log and *.log.1 to 0 bytes and deleting all *.gz files. |
| 13:37.49 | FinalX | annadane: echo exit 101 > /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d && chmod +x /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d # to disable automatic starting of services upon installation |
| 13:37.59 | FinalX | removing that file again will re-enable it |
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| 13:40.16 | FinalX | annadane: reason is that most (if not all) proper post install scripts will do 'invoke-rc.d <service> start' |
| 13:41.00 | FinalX | annadane: so by putting that further towards the front of your PATH with the exit 101, it will just exit with "not allowed", basically. |
| 13:41.56 | FinalX | uh, revision. invoke-rc.d executes policy-rc.d if it can be found. |
| 13:42.16 | FinalX | shouldn't be doing so many things at once |
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| 13:45.15 | kryl | hi, do you know a good debian scheduler service or a web interface to crontab ? |
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| 13:45.53 | annadane | FinalX, is the # required or is that just the beginning of a comment |
| 13:46.27 | petn-randall | kryl: Why would you need a web interface for crontab? It's fairly straight-forward to use. |
| 13:46.35 | FinalX | annadane: beginning of a comment in case people copy/paste till the end of line.. happened in the past :) |
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| 13:47.43 | kryl | petn-randall, sure |
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| 13:52.19 | converge | Is apt-get remove --purge package_name still the right way to purge all files/config/bin/etc ? |
| 13:52.35 | slax0r | afaik yes |
| 13:53.24 | towo^work | no |
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| 13:53.43 | towo^work | apt-get purge $package or apt purge $package |
| 13:56.05 | converge | towo^work, Im purging apache2 , /etc/conf-available is still present, I was expecting purge to delete it all |
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| 13:58.15 | petn-randall | converge: You mean /etc/apache2/conf-available/? If you have locally created files, it won't delete them. Ever. |
| 13:58.33 | converge | petn-randall, alright, thanks |
| 13:59.02 | towo^work | and that directory won't be deleted, if it is not empty |
| 13:59.21 | towo^work | because many packages put files in /etc/apache2/conf-available/ |
| 14:00.19 | FinalX | it does remove/purge the directory if you haven't added any files there that didn't come from the apache packages themselves though |
| 14:00.22 | FinalX | iirc |
| 14:00.27 | FinalX | (but that's ... rare) |
| 14:01.16 | FinalX | root@3cb7806e6935:~# apt autoremove --purge apache2 -y |
| 14:01.19 | FinalX | dpkg: warning: while removing apache2-bin, directory '/var/lib/apache2' not empty so not removed |
| 14:01.20 | dpkg | finalx: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 14:01.25 | FinalX | but /etc/apache2 is gone. |
| 14:02.23 | FinalX | and interestingly enough, /var/lib/apache2 *is* empty after that 'autoremove --purge', yet the directory still exists.. order of package removal problem, I guess :) otherwise it'd also had been purged |
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| 14:04.15 | FinalX | yep, adding a custom config caused this: dpkg: warning: while removing apache2, directory '/etc/apache2/conf-available' not empty so not removed |
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| 14:55.02 | tdn | Is there a good tool I can use to bulk edit metadata inside video files (MP4) such as video title, etc. Something like "juk" or "picard" is for audio files but for video files? |
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| 14:59.37 | bolt | is there a neat way to fool a program that runs on an interactive terminal to think it's not running on an interactive terminal? |
| 14:59.48 | bolt | awk, in this case |
| 15:00.33 | petn-randall | bolt: Depends on how it's coming to the conclusing that it's running in an interactive terminal. |
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| 15:04.09 | koollman | bolt: | cat |
| 15:05.36 | bolt | ah |
| 15:05.37 | bolt | thanks |
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| 15:25.34 | mngrif | i'm trying to get kernel version 4.10 and am running sid. it seems like 4.10 is in experimental but not sid. is there any sort of 'backports'-like repo i can use to make this happen? |
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| 15:29.40 | sdk | mngrif: there's no backport for sid but you can pin package from an other repo. |
| 15:30.23 | mngrif | thanks. that's what i was about to do but i just discovered there is no linux-headers-4.10 which would entirely defeat the purpose. |
| 15:30.36 | mngrif | it's looking like i'll just have to roll my own kernel package |
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| 15:37.15 | petn-randall | mngrif: Just configure the kernel from upstream and then run 'make deb-pkg'. It'll create some .deb packages for you. |
| 15:37.49 | mngrif | exactly |
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| 15:39.17 | nirakara | is there a word for 'one who uses Debian'? |
| 15:39.21 | nirakara | 'debianer'? |
| 15:39.28 | petn-randall | debianista? |
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| 15:39.31 | petn-randall | debianite? |
| 15:39.43 | petn-randall | "debian user"? |
| 15:39.46 | mngrif | "nerd" |
| 15:39.50 | nirakara | debster |
| 15:40.05 | nirakara | "debbler" |
| 15:40.11 | nirakara | or |
| 15:40.21 | nirakara | one who dabbles in debian = debbler |
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| 15:41.54 | nirakara | what's your favourite battery package, laptop-mode or tlp. And do you guys have an strategies for how you care for your batteries (discharge to at most x, don't leave plugged in, etc.)? |
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| 15:45.14 | petn-randall | nirakara: I don't configure it specially. I don't see much point in it unless you want to "tweak" the lifetime of the battery at the cost of shortening your lifetime. |
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| 16:06.39 | nirakara | petn-randall: you mean the time spent optimising is time better spent elsewhere? |
| 16:07.44 | nirakara | anyone around here use zsh with `bindkey -v`? |
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| 16:19.49 | kryl | hi, what when I try to umount something and I have a busy error message. I search with lsof and nothing appear :-) I created the mount in order to enter in a chroot (sys/ dev/ etc...) |
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| 16:27.38 | Iridos | I prefer fuser over lsof ⦠and you should run either as root, else you can only see access as your own user |
| 16:28.35 | Iridos | I mean processes from the same user as running fuser/lsof ⦠and there's things like suid root programs ⦠|
| 16:29.09 | Iridos | not sure in how far a chroot can interfere⦠guess a container can als hide an access |
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| 16:38.04 | rant | kryl: the most commonly overlooked thing is a CWD, just a shell sitting in the dir is all it takes |
| 16:38.27 | Iridos | but that also shows up in fuser |
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| 16:40.03 | rant | yeah and I'm unclear what was meant by the whole enter in a chroot sys dev stuff.. but if you binded other mounts on top of it that will do it too |
| 16:41.38 | petn-randall | kryl: You can't unmount /mnt/chroot/ if you still have /mnt/chroot/sys/ mounted. |
| 16:41.55 | Iridos | ah, maybe that was meant |
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| 16:47.02 | petn-randall | kryl: I tripped over that problem in the past, too :) |
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| 16:48.12 | rant | a chroot with proc, sys, or dev mounted offers nothing but ability to run different env (libs, branch, etc), the minimal security of a chroot is mostly lost at that point |
| 16:49.11 | petn-randall | rant: Who said it's for security? |
| 16:49.37 | rant | nobody, just pointing out something that may not be obvious to some folk :P |
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| 16:50.40 | rant | I've run opensim in chroots before and since it needs mono, and mono needs access to proc and dev to work, its no longer any bit isolated |
| 16:50.51 | rant | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:09.27 | wr | which driver should i choose for a Realtek 8822be wireless lan 802.11ac PCI-E NIC on a debian install? |
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| 17:10.10 | somiaj | the driver should be in the kernel. But you most likely need the firmware-realtek package to get the firmware for that wifi card. |
| 17:10.19 | somiaj | I didn't look up the details, so this is just generic advise that applies to most wifi cards |
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| 17:14.50 | wr | somiaj, if it is not on the installer, should i install the package after? would be nice to have internet on install |
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| 17:16.07 | acidtripper | you need to have a working connection in order to install netinst |
| 17:16.23 | acidtripper | contrary case you wont get all the packages, and could have problems configuring your net |
| 17:16.37 | acidtripper | if some firmware o package needed for net missing |
| 17:17.43 | wr | acidtripper, was on iso, today not on netinstall |
| 17:18.29 | acidtripper | what's missing |
| 17:18.32 | acidtripper | which iso? |
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| 17:21.35 | zW | Hi debian masters. |
| 17:21.52 | zW | I have a proc (php application running in a fpm pool) that regularly gives a 'Could not connect to host' when connection to a SOAP service. I verified all network connectivity and firewalls in between. |
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| 17:22.23 | zW | I see the actual connect: connect(4, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(80), sin_addr=inet_addr("XXX.XX.XX.XX")}, 16) = -1 EINPROGRESS (Operation now in progress) when stracing the proc |
| 17:22.44 | zW | So the connect is ok, but then it throws a poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT|POLLERR|POLLHUP}], 1, 60000) = 0 (Timeout), resulting in a Could not connect. A poll() means waiting for action on a specific fd. But any tips on troubleshooting this? |
| 17:24.21 | rant | zW: you didnt write or are familiar with the code on either end? can't contact the upstream developers? |
| 17:25.03 | zW | rant: I am familiar with the client side code, not the server side. I can't reproduce the issue on a node that is doing less traffic |
| 17:25.07 | somiaj | wr: correct. Debian installers don't include non-free firmware. The install guide states how to include it on a second usb drive during the install. You can also just isntall the system from the install medium, and then copy over the firmware after the install. Last debian does provide 'unoffical' non-free images with firmware on them. |
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| 17:25.14 | zW | So it looks like i'm hitting something |
| 17:25.26 | zW | Already verified open files limit, ulimits, ... |
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| 17:28.12 | rant | this seems far beyond the scope of what we can help with. Especially since you seem to have a good handle on it, we can't likely tell you anything you don't already know or havent tried |
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| 17:29.13 | somiaj | zW: could be your limits, check ulimit -a for the user in question. Additionally for services you can increase the opened files limit using its systemd unit file (systemd deals with limits differentlly than in the past using /etc/security/limits.conf |
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| 17:30.12 | rant | case in point.. heh. A suggestion that you've already tried :P |
| 17:30.23 | somiaj | wr: note the debian 'netinstall' still contains a base system you can install without a network on it. Just additional software beyond the minimial base needs a network. |
| 17:30.51 | somiaj | rant: yea saw that, figured I'd point out the systemd info though. |
| 17:31.16 | arCABAL | I got a nice vinyl sticker for my laptop. https://imgur.com/t4FCdlz |
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| 17:31.31 | somiaj | I guess another thing is check iotraf or something like that, wonder if it could be an IO issue. |
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| 17:31.48 | somiaj | arCABAL: nice, though comments like that best left for #debian-offtopic |
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| 17:32.04 | user0 | Hello, i'm new to vps hosting as client, and i need to install php > 5.6.33, me said to upgrade my debian, should i ask to vps provider to upgrade it for me or i have to do it my self ? If last, here is a documentation for upgrade process i only done fresh install. |
| 17:32.20 | arCABAL | ok. understood |
| 17:32.23 | somiaj | user0: what version of debian are you running on your vps? |
| 17:32.33 | user0 | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3 (2016-07-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:32.40 | rant | user0: that could vary based on the hosting provider.. some may give you full access others may not |
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| 17:33.32 | somiaj | user0: when you say > 5.6.33, dyou mean php7, in debian you either have the php version you have on jessie on that vps, or 7 in stretch. Nothing inbetween. |
| 17:33.34 | user0 | I have ssh acces and power button in html page but nothing else i will ask |
| 17:33.49 | user0 | somiaj: I need at least 5.6.4 |
| 17:34.00 | petn-randall | ,v php5 |
| 17:34.01 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u12; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
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| 17:34.23 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 17:34.24 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); buster: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-5-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: |
| 17:34.25 | judd | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3) |
| 17:34.33 | rant | user0: all our current distros have php 7 that vps is way out of date |
| 17:34.45 | somiaj | user0: still I would varify that 'at least 5.6.40' does mean that php7 would work. Otherwise upgraind to stretch won't help you. |
| 17:34.51 | acidtripper | arCABAL, are you from argentina? |
| 17:35.13 | somiaj | jessie isn't that far out of date, but I guess that depends on what you are use to. There is still plenty of stuff not ready for php7. |
| 17:35.31 | petn-randall | user0: If you're running jessie you already have php 5.6.30. |
| 17:35.42 | somiaj | user0: it looks like you are running on a debian kernel, so that means that if you have root access you can 'most likely' upgrade to stretch on that vps following the release notes. I would still ask your VPS first. |
| 17:35.58 | somiaj | petn-randall: they originally sayd > 5.6.30, so thinking they meant 5.6.40 |
| 17:36.01 | acidtripper | stretch is stable and have updated soft |
| 17:36.06 | acidtripper | best of both worlds |
| 17:36.06 | arCABAL | No, why do you think that? Maybe its better to ansewr in #debian-offtopic |
| 17:36.08 | somiaj | arg > 5.6.33 |
| 17:36.36 | rant | I think the user is confused as they said >5.6.33 and >5.6.4 |
| 17:36.44 | user0 | Thank you guys i will get some drink then i will ask and be right back. |
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| 17:37.22 | rant | 5.6.4<5.6.30<5.6.33 |
| 17:37.46 | petn-randall | Perl > * |
| 17:37.47 | petn-randall | :) |
| 17:38.14 | somiaj | hmm, what is dpkg language war factoid..:/ |
| 17:38.22 | rant | yeah I prefer python as my P in any LAMP setup personally but Perl would still be preferred over php |
| 17:38.49 | somiaj | though I would still be careful, if something is asking for > 5.6.33 and not 7, makes me wonder if the code is compadable with 7. |
| 17:39.12 | rant | dpkg, start a language war |
| 17:39.12 | dpkg | Java is more readable than Ruby |
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| 17:39.29 | somiaj | I find I wish python did some of the varible typing/switching perl did, but I do prefer python over perl. |
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| 17:39.55 | BanHammor | i love the idea of defining the last element of the stack as "A programming language, but it MUST start with P" |
| 17:39.55 | rant | I always found python to be throughly duck typed |
| 17:40.12 | rant | BanHammor: heh |
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| 17:41.07 | christopher74837 | hi, i was trying to follow old wiki article https://wiki.debian.org/pamusb but the packages don't exist in stretch. |
| 17:42.08 | christopher74837 | does anybody know if that has been obsoleted by something else, or...? |
| 17:42.21 | somiaj | christopher74837: just now looking at the wiki, but what is your overall goal? |
| 17:42.38 | christopher74837 | i wanted two fact auth with regular password + something on a usb stick |
| 17:43.02 | christopher74837 | somiaj: ^ |
| 17:43.07 | acidtripper | christopher74837, who's using stable here and why |
| 17:43.10 | acidtripper | i mean 8 |
| 17:43.51 | christopher74837 | acidtripper: I'm using stretch |
| 17:44.03 | acidtripper | me too |
| 17:44.05 | somiaj | It appears bug #740842 is why it was removed from debian |
| 17:44.06 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/740842 in ftp.debian.org (closed, sid, stretch): «RM: libpam-usb -- RoQA; unmaintained, depends on obsolete udisks»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-03-05; last modified: 2015-06-19. |
| 17:44.18 | acidtripper | stretch for servers |
| 17:44.35 | somiaj | christopher74837: seems that software is unmatained and depends on outdated methods. I don't know of any equivlant software for two factor auth though. |
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| 17:45.17 | somiaj | acidtripper: there will be people using jessie on servers for years to come. Wheezy-lts is still being used, and there are ocasionally users in here still using a wheezy desktop. |
| 17:45.56 | christopher74837 | somiaj: ok, thanks. maybe I can install what I need from source |
| 17:46.33 | acidtripper | somiaj, yes for servers which doesn't require latest soft could go |
| 17:46.35 | christopher74837 | somiaj: assuming libpam has kept up to date |
| 17:46.38 | acidtripper | a bit updated, but works |
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| 17:46.45 | acidtripper | sometimes o choose slackware 14.2 |
| 17:46.57 | acidtripper | well tuned and works great for common use servers |
| 17:47.24 | rant | christopher74837: the problem is that the method relies on things that are no longer used, and that the code was unmaintained.. you'd have to either fork the project and update it or start something new. |
| 17:47.32 | somiaj | christopher74837: you could check upstream, see if they have a version that doens't use udisks and maybe udev more directly. |
| 17:48.31 | acidtripper | but i alwas prefered debian over redhat, i know howto use it, but prefer slackware and debian from the other server options on market |
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| 17:49.41 | christopher74837 | somiaj: project doesn't seem to be maintained anymore, near as I can tell |
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| 17:55.23 | DarkSpartan | hello, I need some help with determining what version of debian I should use |
| 17:55.36 | rant | I'm somewhat interested in this removable token authentication but I gotta head out now.. I'll look more into it later see what can be done |
| 17:56.24 | greycat | DarkSpartan: "stable" (stretch) unless you have some compelling reason to do otherwise |
| 17:56.34 | Darcidride_ | Hi everyoen, i need some help about a thing, do we have a way to configure the 'wait tim' of a FAILED daemon at boot ? (i've something it's normal it's failed because it's an encrypted drive, and it's when i'm unlocking it that it will mount this partition, it's on my fstab and it's why at boot it can't mount it) |
| 17:56.55 | DarkSpartan | greycat: I'm worried about the Spec Req |
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| 17:57.57 | DarkSpartan | The hardware on my computer's ancient af |
| 17:58.11 | DarkSpartan | Intel Atom D410 |
| 17:58.20 | DarkSpartan | Motherboard* |
| 17:58.23 | greycat | Should work. |
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| 17:58.54 | DarkSpartan | I have a total of 4gb installed on it |
| 17:59.28 | greycat | Your definition of "ancient af" is pretty weak. Stretch should run on a Pentium II with 128 MB. |
| 18:00.37 | DarkSpartan | greycat: Oh ohk |
| 18:00.42 | greycat | wheezy was supported on 64 MB, but systemd broke that |
| 18:01.59 | DarkSpartan | greycat: Eol for debian stretch? |
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| 18:02.32 | greycat | It's the current stable release, so it should be 100% supported for another ~2 years, then go into TLS (long term support, less than 100%) for 3 more. |
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| 18:21.49 | Sansar | Hello, does anyone else has problems launching tor browser after recent update? |
| 18:22.11 | Sansar | tor browser launcher setting looks fine but the icon for torbrowser never launches the program |
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| 18:30.51 | arCABAL | try launching it from the terminal and see if it spits out any error messages |
| 18:32.49 | user0 | Hey i'm back i can install debian 8.5 (fresh install) from my interface, i have only 1 virtualhost running under nginx so i think it is easier to clean install than upgrade, do debian 8.5 is up to date with php7 ? |
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| 18:33.22 | greycat | 8.5 is jessie, which is oldstable. it has some php 5.x version. |
| 18:33.32 | greycat | ,v php5-fpm |
| 18:33.33 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u12; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.33+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 18:33.54 | greycat | jessie-security has 5.6.33, so after you upgrade from 8.5 to 8.newest, you should have that |
| 18:35.01 | Igel | ..re jessie/oldstable |
| 18:35.40 | Igel | has anyone recently bumped to stretch from oldstable? was transition ok? pitfalls? |
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| 18:35.59 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/NewInStretch |
| 18:36.28 | Igel | i've done it with a laptop, i was following testing.. everything went fine. but this box im on now is due.. |
| 18:36.38 | Igel | thanks gc |
| 18:36.53 | user0 | how can i upgrade from jessie to an updated version is there a guide ? |
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| 18:37.06 | greycat | !tell user0 about jessie->stretch |
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| 18:52.09 | DammitJim | I realize this might not be a debian question, but maybe you guys can point me to the right channel |
| 18:52.25 | DammitJim | I have a debian server with an older GEForce GT 120 that has DVI output |
| 18:52.41 | DammitJim | my 7 y/o TV died and I had the server connected via DVI |
| 18:52.59 | DammitJim | if I get a 4K TV, can I just use a DVI->HDMI adapter to connect to the new TV? |
| 18:54.04 | shtrb | It should work if it will be identified |
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| 18:55.14 | BluesKaj | DammitJim: most likely it will work up to 1920x1080, but doubt the gpu can handle 4K |
| 18:55.25 | DammitJim | BluesKaj, |
| 18:55.26 | shtrb | the connector cost something like ~$20 but not all monitors will work |
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| 18:55.36 | DammitJim | I guess as long as I can see something, I should be good |
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| 18:55.46 | DammitJim | I am running Kodi |
| 18:56.22 | DammitJim | it's unbelievable... can't find regular HDTVs |
| 18:56.25 | DammitJim | everything is 4K |
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| 18:57.18 | shtrb | You can also use a usb to HDMI if it does not work (displaylink or any other) |
| 18:57.40 | DammitJim | usb? really? wow |
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| 18:57.59 | algun|home | Hi, I'm using buster/sid, and my desktop's not loading in its entirety. I see the icons and I can click them, but not manage them. The apps open, but they're chromeless. There's no desktop background, there's no GNOME menu. I thought maybe an upgrade failed, so I did apt-get upgrade and indeed there were downloaded but uninstalled packages, but after that was all done I rebooted and I still have the |
| 18:58.06 | algun|home | same problem. Please advise |
| 18:59.29 | shtrb | DammitJim, something like this https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/131-0618746-2693932?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=DisplayLink |
| 18:59.36 | algun|home | shtrb: he's gone |
| 18:59.47 | algun|home | shtrb: but I am here |
| 19:00.53 | shtrb | algun|home, you might need to do dist-upgrade but other than that #gnome and #debian-next at oftc |
| 19:01.07 | shtrb | If you don't get enough help here |
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| 19:02.26 | algun|home | shtrb, This probably isn't a gnome thing, and I intentionally ask here. Thanks for the dist-upgrade suggestion but that's 0 pkgs, already tried |
| 19:03.15 | algun|home | shtrb: you wouldn't happen to know how you switch channels in irssi? |
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| 19:03.41 | algun|home | I usually use alt+arrow, but that doesn't work on the shell (switches shells) |
| 19:03.48 | algun|home | *outside of a GUI |
| 19:03.54 | shtrb | join or alt-window number ? |
| 19:05.04 | algun|home | shtrb: join didn't do it, but alt+nr does, thanks |
| 19:05.33 | algun|home | shtrb: hmm, join does it, it's just there's no #debian-next |
| 19:05.37 | tw | esc-number |
| 19:05.46 | shtrb | algun|home, at OFTC network |
| 19:05.49 | algun|home | tw: thx for your contrib |
| 19:06.00 | algun|home | shtrb: oh... |
| 19:06.22 | algun|home | i guess that's a big part of the reason why |
| 19:08.43 | algun|home | tw: shtrb: sorry for my irssi support questions, but how do I switch to OFTC (I'm connected) without leaving freenode. Right now, it wants to join channels on freenode |
| 19:09.02 | tw | ctrl-x in the server window. |
| 19:09.02 | greycat | "/con oftc" assuming oftc is configured already |
| 19:09.12 | greycat | oh, sorry, already connected. |
| 19:09.25 | shtrb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.33 | greycat | "/j -oftc #debian-next" to join a channel on a specific server |
| 19:10.10 | algun|home | ok now i need to sever one oftc connection... |
| 19:10.37 | algun|home | ah, /disconnect OFTC |
| 19:11.08 | shtrb | irc.oftc.net |
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| 19:12.39 | algun|home | thanks yall |
| 19:12.56 | algun|home | greycat: seems you're in a good mood today? |
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| 19:13.54 | algun|home | haven't talked with you for some time, so I may be out of the loop |
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| 19:15.24 | algun|home | ah, there's that familiar silence XD |
| 19:16.07 | shtrb | #debian-offtopic ? |
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| 19:21.03 | Darcidride_ | Hi everyoen, i need some help about a thing, do we have a way to configure the 'wait tim' of a FAILED daemon at boot ? (i've something it's normal it's failed because it's an encrypted drive, and it's when i'm unlocking it that it will mount this partition, it's on my fstab and it's why at boot it can't mount it) |
| 19:21.50 | greycat | If it doesn't need to be mounted at boot, there are options you can set in fstab. Like "noauto". |
| 19:22.08 | somiaj | you can also set nofail to make it so your system will still boot if it doens't mount. |
| 19:22.19 | greycat | Or "nofail". |
| 19:22.31 | Darcidride_ | nofail seems perfect, im going to try it |
| 19:22.44 | somiaj | if you need better timing to ensure it is mounted at boot, create a systemd mount unit to better control when it is mounted. |
| 19:23.02 | somiaj | fstab is kinda all processed at once and turned into mount units using 'best guesses' |
| 19:23.41 | shtrb | Darcidride_, If that luks you can use crypttab to ask for the password |
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| 19:24.16 | Darcidride_ | oh.. well... the 'nofail' is already set in the fstab and when im booting it waits 1m30 because it's in state "failed" |
| 19:24.17 | JeevesMoss | how do I recover GRUB2 if the root drive is a LVM? |
| 19:24.58 | Darcidride_ | somiaj, greycat, my actual fstab : /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-NAS01:RAID5data /srv/dev-disk-by-id-md-name-NAS01-RAID5data ext4 defaults,nofail,user_xattr,noexec,usrjquota=aquota.user,grpjquota=aquota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0,acl 0 2 |
| 19:25.22 | Darcidride_ | im going to try with noauto |
| 19:25.50 | somiaj | you will have to manually mount it later if you want it mounted in that case though. |
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| 19:26.07 | Darcidride_ | somiaj, yes, actually i manually mount it when boot is dne |
| 19:26.21 | Darcidride_ | i just not want to wast 1m30s at each boot for something i know |
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| 19:26.45 | Darcidride_ | don't want* |
| 19:26.59 | finuit | how do i configure gnome to treat left-mod ("win key") the same as right mod, to show the launcher? |
| 19:27.06 | Darcidride_ | Ok perfect, with nofail+noauto i don't wait 1m30 at each boot |
| 19:27.52 | Darcidride_ | JeevesMoss, i think you should install again the grub2 ext2 partition, it's not a big deal, it's easy and will autodétect the LVM boot partition |
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| 19:28.31 | DarkSpartan | need some help with dd |
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| 19:29.46 | DarkSpartan | hello? |
| 19:30.13 | mikeymop | DarkSpartan: just ask the question |
| 19:30.17 | Darcidride_ | finuit, keyboard parameters > tweaks tool > keyboard and mouse > additionnal layout options > alt/win key behaviour |
| 19:30.28 | DarkSpartan | ohk, apologies |
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| 19:30.58 | DarkSpartan | I once flashed kali linux onto my usb |
| 19:31.02 | DarkSpartan | using dd |
| 19:31.18 | DarkSpartan | And now, I'm seeing two partitions on the usb |
| 19:31.21 | Darcidride_ | A question please DarkSpartan |
| 19:31.46 | DarkSpartan | Look up? |
| 19:32.02 | DarkSpartan | How do i get rid of these partitions? |
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| 19:32.49 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, why do you want to get rid of them? |
| 19:33.00 | Brigo | are you sure they are not needed for kali? |
| 19:33.05 | DarkSpartan | I'd like to install debian stretch onto my pc |
| 19:33.21 | Darcidride_ | I think it's normal, dd command line tool extract the iso and put it in the path you tell him, the 2 partitions are surely normal |
| 19:33.27 | Brigo | with that usb stick? |
| 19:33.33 | Darcidride_ | or you already had 2 partitions in this usb key and you nned to format it before the dd to be sure |
| 19:34.05 | DarkSpartan | dd created these two partitions |
| 19:34.24 | Darcidride_ | DarkSpartan, if you're not familiar with 'dd' you can use a free/libre tool like 'Etcher' https://etcher.io/ |
| 19:34.52 | Darcidride_ | If dd created these partitions, it's a normal behaviour, i suppose |
| 19:35.14 | DarkSpartan | I'd like to flash the iso onto that usb, but idk which one i should choose |
| 19:35.23 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, FYI, if you install debian in that usb you will lose all the information. |
| 19:35.34 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, the debian iso? |
| 19:35.43 | DarkSpartan | aye, the debian iso |
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| 19:36.00 | DarkSpartan | I don't need the info stored on the usb |
| 19:36.01 | Brigo | you don't have to choose, you dd it in the disk not in a partition. |
| 19:36.05 | darkhanb | In .service files, should I specify a full path to binaries? or just the command suffices? For example: ExecStartPre=/bin/mkdir vs ExecStartPre=mkdir |
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| 19:36.23 | Brigo | for exampl, dd output=/dev/sdb no /dev/sdb1 |
| 19:36.30 | s00x | hey, where to look to debug mounting devices. When I use veracrypt, it logs me out (but device is being mounted). The same with unmount |
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| 19:36.56 | DarkSpartan | Brigo: can I pm? |
| 19:37.22 | DarkSpartan | you? |
| 19:37.23 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, you may, buy you shouldn't. |
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| 19:37.48 | DarkSpartan | apologies for my poor English |
| 19:37.58 | DarkSpartan | I wanted to pm you |
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| 19:38.20 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, as i said, you can, but it is not a good idea. |
| 19:38.32 | DarkSpartan | ohk |
| 19:38.36 | Brigo | if you write here more people could read you and help |
| 19:38.51 | DarkSpartan | kk |
| 19:38.56 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, but if you want, i have no problem. |
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| 19:39.07 | DarkSpartan | ohk |
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| 19:40.07 | DarkSpartan | sudo fdisk -l gives me /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 |
| 19:41.08 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, if you are sure that is the disk then use /dev/sdb. |
| 19:41.19 | DarkSpartan | aight, thanks |
| 19:41.31 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.31 | DarkSpartan | yeah, that's the disk |
| 19:41.50 | Brigo | you have to dd or just cp the partition the the whole disk. |
| 19:42.13 | Brigo | cp debian.iso /dev/sdb will work too. |
| 19:42.19 | AlexPortable | I downloaded a program, but now when executing it I get No such file or directory |
| 19:42.26 | Brigo | just make sure /dev/sdb is the right disk :) |
| 19:42.39 | Brigo | AlexPortable, is it executable ? |
| 19:42.51 | DarkSpartan | ok, thanks for the help, Brigo |
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| 19:43.04 | Brigo | DarkSpartan, np, good luck :) |
| 19:43.12 | DarkSpartan | thanks |
| 19:43.28 | DarkSpartan | Tbh, I've never tried cp |
| 19:43.55 | DarkSpartan | I'll try the command you gave me |
| 19:45.23 | s00x | anyone here using veracrypt? |
| 19:46.16 | annadane | !anyone |
| 19:46.16 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 19:46.23 | annadane | ,v veracrypt |
| 19:46.24 | judd | No package named 'veracrypt' was found in amd64. |
| 19:46.27 | annadane | hmm |
| 19:46.28 | AlexPortable | Brigo: i made it executable |
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| 19:47.42 | s00x | annadane: I asked specified question like 10-15 mins ago, noone answered |
| 19:47.42 | Brigo | AlexPortable, try with a leading ./ as ./myexecutable |
| 19:48.11 | Brigo | s00x, your first question was good, not this one. |
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| 19:48.46 | Brigo | s00x, i would ask in veracrypts chats or forums if i were you. |
| 19:49.56 | AlexPortable | Brigo: doesnt work |
| 19:50.10 | Brigo | AlexPortable, any message? |
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| 19:50.31 | AlexPortable | ah wrong architecture |
| 19:50.49 | Brigo | which one? |
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| 19:52.33 | wh0rd | php |
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| 19:59.34 | Megaf | Folks, I think I found a bug that affects all updated Debians from Jessie |
| 20:00.11 | Megaf | Basically, when you run out of memory, still technically having 1 GB free if you don't consider cache, the system ill begin to trash IO |
| 20:00.25 | Megaf | all comes to a total halt and IO goes crazy |
| 20:00.39 | Megaf | swap is not touched and OOM killed is never called |
| 20:00.53 | Megaf | understandebly since there's sill 1 GB free |
| 20:01.02 | Megaf | though, occupied by cache |
| 20:01.27 | Megaf | it happens with Kernel 3.x and 4.x on Debian 8 and 9 |
| 20:01.56 | Megaf | Only way out of this is hard reset. I tried to wait it out overnight already, no luck |
| 20:02.05 | Megaf | IO trashing the whole time |
| 20:02.26 | Megaf | maybe a race condition between caching and dropping cache? |
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| 20:03.31 | Brigo | Megaf, if you can reproduce it, i would fill a bug. |
| 20:03.54 | Megaf | Can you point me to where I should fill a bug? |
| 20:03.57 | AlexPortable | Where is the command lslogin |
| 20:04.00 | AlexPortable | lslogins |
| 20:04.02 | Megaf | And no idea which package to blame |
| 20:04.02 | AlexPortable | what package is it part of |
| 20:04.58 | rozie_ | Megaf: it's kernel, but you need to provied more details |
| 20:05.53 | Brigo | AlexPortable, util-linux: /usr/bin/lslogins |
| 20:06.10 | Megaf | rozie: what kind of details? |
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| 20:06.36 | Megaf | I can tested in two laptops |
| 20:06.41 | Megaf | it affects Sid too |
| 20:07.01 | AlexPortable | Brigo: not there |
| 20:07.07 | AlexPortable | -bash: /usr/bin/lslogins: No such file or directory |
| 20:07.15 | AlexPortable | apt-get install util-linux -> util-linux is already the newest version. |
| 20:07.23 | Brigo | AlexPortable, is util-linux installed? |
| 20:07.28 | AlexPortable | ys |
| 20:07.39 | Brigo | AlexPortable, which version? which debian version are you using? |
| 20:07.51 | AlexPortable | how to find out? |
| 20:08.08 | Brigo | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:08.14 | AlexPortable | 8.9 |
| 20:08.21 | Brigo | for util-linux dpkg -l util-linux |
| 20:08.58 | greycat | maybe you need to reinstall the util-linux package |
| 20:09.02 | AlexPortable | ii util-linux 2.25.2-6 amd64 Miscellaneous system utilities |
| 20:09.02 | Brigo | i am with debian 9, maybe is not in Jessie package. |
| 20:09.15 | Brigo | ,v util-linux |
| 20:09.16 | judd | Package: util-linux on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.20.1-5.3; jessie: 2.25.2-6; stretch: 2.29.2-1; buster: 2.30.2-0.3; sid: 2.30.2-0.3 |
| 20:09.39 | greycat | ,file usr/bin/lslogins --release jessie |
| 20:09.44 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 20:09.49 | greycat | ,file /usr/bin/lslogins --release jessie |
| 20:09.52 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 20:09.57 | greycat | (?) |
| 20:10.28 | Brigo | greycat, as i said, maybe it is not in Jessie package. |
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| 20:10.47 | greycat | yeah, I don't see it on https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/util-linux/filelist |
| 20:10.47 | Brigo | ,file usr/bin/lslogins --release stretch |
| 20:10.51 | judd | Search for usr/bin/lslogins in stretch/amd64: util-linux: usr/bin/lslogins |
| 20:11.24 | Brigo | and there is no backport either. |
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| 20:15.41 | AlexPortable | so its not in 8? |
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| 20:16.10 | greycat | definitely not in the util-linux package in 8 (jessie) |
| 20:16.17 | martopoulos | since Nagios 3/4 are completely unpackaged in stretch, is there a monitoring suite that Debian recommends...? |
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| 20:17.37 | Brigo | martopoulos, what about icinga? |
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| 20:18.27 | martopoulos | based on Nagios - interesting |
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| 20:33.55 | shtrb | ,v spectre-meltdown-checker |
| 20:33.56 | judd | Package: spectre-meltdown-checker on amd64 -- stretch-backports: 0.31-1~bpo9+1; buster: 0.31-1; sid: 0.32-1 |
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| 20:40.02 | xgpt | Looking for suggestions for non-raspberry-pi (they're too expensive compared to alternatives) single board computers, I want something that's just as highly reliable as a raspberry pi, and I'm willing to take significant performance cuts to have it, I want to spend as little as possible on this board as possible, and I want a "Just works" experience, just like installing the most popular operating systems on |
| 20:40.08 | xgpt | the raspberry pi would get me. Suggestions? |
| 20:40.11 | xgpt | Looking for suggestions for non-raspberry-pi (they're too expensive compared to alternatives) single board computers, I want something that's just as highly reliable as a raspberry pi, and I'm willing to take significant performance cuts to have it, I want to spend as little as possible on this board as possible, and I want a "Just works" experience, just like installing the most popular operating systems on |
| 20:40.17 | xgpt | the raspberry pi would get me. Suggestions? |
| 20:40.24 | xgpt | Anyone running debian or a debian offshoot on a non-raspberry pi and enjoying it / finding it highly stable and feature filled? |
| 20:40.50 | shtrb | Does anyone have installed spectre-meltdown-checker and can say if the recent kernel are declared NOT VULNERABLE ? |
| 20:41.43 | greycat | There isn't a "recent kernel". |
| 20:42.04 | greycat | The stable one shows a build date of 2018-01-04. |
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| 20:49.42 | mpo | Guys, what could possibly be the reason for stunnel not wanting to work as expected? http://paste.debian.net/1007233/ --- Is it the different versions of openssl libraries? |
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| 20:55.54 | mpo | Oh, there is #796776 |
| 20:55.55 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/796776 in stunnel4 (open): «stunnel4: openssl incompatibility and CA verification failure »; severity: important; opened: 2015-08-24; last modified: 2015-08-24. |
| 20:56.13 | mpo | Oh, nice bot-bot! |
| 21:01.18 | mpo | So, what do I do next, folks? File a new bug, compile a new package and send it to the maintainer? |
| 21:01.52 | greycat | If there's already an existing bug, you can add information to that. Don't open a new one. |
| 21:02.50 | mpo | And send in the compiled package? Not much has changed in two and a half years there. |
| 21:03.13 | greycat | A patch would be OK. Sending a compiled binary sounds bad. |
| 21:03.17 | mpo | Does nobody use stunnel here? |
| 21:03.22 | greycat | Probably not. |
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| 21:04.02 | mpo | mmh |
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| 21:05.24 | nbah | i'm unable to use tty1-6 because the screen freezes on current GUI (X on tty7). It works only when nomodeset param is in /etc/default/grub accordingly. But then login manager doesn't startup. How to access VT by correcting the kernel issue or installing proper drivers? NOT nvidia, it's netbook Intel Atom |
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| 21:06.42 | RoyK | nbah: ctrl+alt+f1 may help |
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| 21:07.37 | annadane | i thought ctrl alt f1 was tty 1? |
| 21:07.53 | nbah | indeed |
| 21:08.07 | annadane | just wondering what the logic behind that is |
| 21:08.11 | converge | I can login remotely on my local network, but when I try to login outside my network, it always says permission denied, anyone knows what could be wrong ? |
| 21:08.29 | RoyK | annadane: it is - just saying, since alt+f1 don't always work |
| 21:08.51 | RoyK | annadane, nbah: no offence |
| 21:09.25 | nbah | annadane: so kernel graphics doesn't load, it uses bios vga until X is loaded |
| 21:12.43 | RoyK | nbah: normally it uses framebuffer |
| 21:14.01 | nbah | know little about it. can it be done? |
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| 21:16.38 | nbah | other than 'nomodeset' ? |
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| 21:24.36 | RoyK | nbah: there are some modeset hacks - can't remember them atm - but nomodeset didn't work last time I had that issue |
| 21:25.11 | RoyK | nbah: iirc forcing something like 640x480 moved it back to standard vga - this was some years back, though |
| 21:25.39 | RoyK | had issues setting up linux on hyper-v v1 (or v0.1 which should have been the version) |
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| 21:27.04 | aci | Missing Lenny from the header |
| 21:27.42 | aci | from/in |
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| 21:41.43 | nbah | RoyK: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT could be empty then, instead of vga=791/788 ? |
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| 21:46.53 | RoyK | nbah: sorry - don't remember - and what I wrote on the subject was in a wiki somewhere I worked eight years back |
| 21:47.11 | RoyK | btw - "update-command-not-found" doesn't seem to be working too well - any ideas? http://paste.debian.net/1007241/ |
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| 22:11.34 | Sbef_BigBlue | ehy guys! my grandpa is still using a pentium 166 mhz ahahahahah |
| 22:11.56 | Sbef_BigBlue | and, well, is debian is pretty much outdated |
| 22:12.18 | Sbef_BigBlue | obviously i don't think that debian is still supporting non-mmx cpus, am i right? |
| 22:12.30 | greycat | If it's a Pentium, not a Pentium II, then you might not be able to run the current release on it. |
| 22:12.42 | Sbef_BigBlue | ehy greycat ! |
| 22:12.44 | greycat | I know there's a crossover point somewhere in between. Pentium MMX? |
| 22:13.04 | Sbef_BigBlue | yeah i think so too. i don't think it is a pentiu mmx. though |
| 22:13.41 | Sbef_BigBlue | so let's use jessie? |
| 22:14.51 | Sbef_BigBlue | btw, fun fact: |
| 22:15.28 | Sbef_BigBlue | is since the P6 architecture, so pentium pro /mmx and later, that we got the dear old meltdown and spectre problems |
| 22:15.43 | Sbef_BigBlue | so debian just dropped support to the only secure x86 cpus eheheheh |
| 22:16.11 | greycat | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/ch02s01.html.en |
| 22:16.23 | greycat | "jessie will not run on 486 or earlier processors" |
| 22:16.42 | Sbef_BigBlue | greycat: ok all pentiums should be i586 |
| 22:16.46 | greycat | https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/i386/ch02s01.html.en |
| 22:16.51 | greycat | "stretch will not run on 586 (Pentium) or earlier processors" |
| 22:16.59 | Sbef_BigBlue | perfect |
| 22:17.33 | Sbef_BigBlue | so i'll use jessie. it should be doing fine |
| 22:17.55 | Sbef_BigBlue | btw, how cool is a man with a pentium 1 in 2018 |
| 22:18.39 | greycat | Not very. |
| 22:19.22 | greycat | If he's planning to use a web browser, I would buy a newer computer. |
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| 22:25.31 | volga629_ | Hello Everyone, iscsi report error -16 |
| 22:25.33 | volga629_ | https://paste.debian.net/1007250/ |
| 22:25.54 | volga629_ | how to find out what issue |
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| 22:35.55 | Meavo | Hello |
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| 22:38.14 | Meavo | Noones answering eh? |
| 22:38.25 | RoyK | !ask |
| 22:38.26 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 22:38.51 | Meavo | lol |
| 22:38.52 | annadane | Meavo, you have to understand that "hello" could mean "i'm being friendly" or "i need help" |
| 22:39.02 | annadane | and it's also only been 3 minutes |
| 22:39.04 | Meavo | dpkg: I never asked a question |
| 22:39.04 | dpkg | Meavo: I give up, what is it? |
| 22:39.13 | annadane | dpkg is just a bot |
| 22:39.14 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, annadane |
| 22:39.21 | annadane | but if you have a question, ask it |
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| 22:41.02 | Meavo | lol |
| 22:41.04 | Meavo | im back |
| 22:41.56 | mischief | how are you gentlemen !! |
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| 22:43.17 | annadane | there are a great many people who just leave when people don't immediately address them when all they have to do is just ask their question and someone will get around to it |
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| 22:46.31 | Meavo | annadane: ikr |
| 22:46.38 | Meavo | :/ |
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| 23:01.38 | Solbu | Last night we updated the packages on our server. Since then, every users terminals are periodically filled with a syslog kernel error, saying «do_IRQ: x.xxx No irq handler for vector (irq -1)». Anyone have a clue as to why? (The «x.xxx» numbers varies each time) |
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| 23:03.43 | annadane | i think maybe having a list of which packages were updated helps |
| 23:04.05 | Solbu | Hmm. good point. :-) |
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| 23:08.03 | Solbu | annadane: Here is the etckeeper git-log entry. It lists the changed packages: https://www.solbu.net/debian-updates-2018-01-25.txt |
| 23:08.40 | annadane | ah, so this is a jessie server |
| 23:08.50 | annadane | judging from the kernel |
| 23:09.23 | Solbu | Yes. |
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| 23:13.42 | Solbu | I found an old ubuntu thread saying that a fix is to add «pci=nomsi,noaer» to the grub default options in /etc/default/grub, but I'm not sure if it is a good idea. |
| 23:14.02 | Olanzapin | Good evening everyone i got a question for you. I am trying to install spotyfy using this guide https://www.spotify.com/se/download/linux/ Is it me or the package that needs help :) |
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| 23:23.45 | sbef | Well |
| 23:23.48 | sbef | This I weird |
| 23:23.57 | sbef | I booted my pc |
| 23:24.12 | sbef | And got windows 10 boot screen and blue screen |
| 23:24.22 | sbef | I was like what the hell there's Debian in this |
| 23:24.42 | sbef | I booted from second hard disk (supposed to be empty) |
| 23:25.02 | sbef | Got a screen I never saw about how to repair windows |
| 23:25.05 | sbef | Turned off |
| 23:25.10 | sbef | Unplugged the pc |
| 23:25.18 | sbef | Resetted CMOS |
| 23:25.22 | annadane | !enter |
| 23:25.22 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 23:25.30 | sbef | Debian booted in kernel panic |
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| 23:25.43 | sbef | WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED TO MY PC??? |
| 23:25.58 | sbef | Oh |
| 23:26.00 | sbef | Aorey |
| 23:26.32 | sbef | In really sorry won't happen again! In Used to WhatsApp and idk makes me feel like in talking for real. Will avoid to do that again |
| 23:26.45 | sbef | I'm******** |
| 23:27.48 | Solbu | sbef: Was it a dualboot system? |
| 23:27.54 | sbef | No |
| 23:28.29 | sbef | I installed Debian over windows ten, after a reset. I use Lilo btw not grub |
| 23:29.03 | Solbu | Did you remove the existing partitions, when installing? |
| 23:29.06 | sbef | Oh and I didn't use the extended whatever when installing lilo. May this mean I haven't overwritten completely the window's MBR? |
| 23:29.15 | sbef | Solbu: yes I did |
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| 23:30.02 | Solbu | And you live alone, or do others have physical access to the computer? |
| 23:30.03 | sbef | Solbu: I used an encrypted lvm, and I'm too dumb to know how to create an encrypted lvm without deleting all other partitions lol |
| 23:30.47 | sbef | Solbu: my grandma could access it but almost got an heartbreak seeing YouTube, I don't think she would have turn it on ahahahahahah |
| 23:31.02 | sbef | She would ever* |
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| 23:48.13 | bdax | hi everyone. if I have the live cd (xfce), is it possible to install the minimal version of the OS (no desktop environment)? |
| 23:49.27 | RoyK | bdax: usually you'll use the server install to insatll the minimal |
| 23:49.50 | bdax | ah okay, thanks RoyK |
| 23:50.02 | RoyK | bdax: I haven't installed a non-graphic thing from a graphic installer, so sorry |
| 23:50.24 | bdax | nah it's fine, I don't remember there being an option for it, just wanted to check |
| 23:50.36 | RoyK | I have no idea :) |
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| 23:59.24 | well_laid_lawn | !minimal |
