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| 00:13.38 | lindylex | I am trying to build libpst-0.6.71 and it depends on "libgd2-noxpm-dev" and "libgd2-xpm-dev" these are not installable. It say i should change the dependency to "libgd-dev" How do I do this? |
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| 00:16.37 | ZeroBeholder | lindylex: Maybe install the suggested package(s) and symlink to them? |
| 00:17.04 | ZeroBeholder | lindylex: Fair warning, that may be a terrible suggestion. But it is something... |
| 00:17.07 | lindylex | The version i want does not exist. I need the latest version. |
| 00:18.32 | ZeroBeholder | lindylex: Right apt-get install libgd-dev && ln -s libgd2-noxpm-dev libgd-dev |
| 00:19.11 | ZeroBeholder | lindylex: Unfortunately, you've listed two libraries and the suggested replacement is only one library... |
| 00:19.28 | lindylex | OOOH I see. Thanks for this idea. |
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| 00:20.33 | lindylex | Where absolute directory do i place the libgd2-noxpm-dev libgd-dev ? |
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| 00:20.59 | jelly | lindylex, how precisely is it saying " should change the dependency to " |
| 00:21.17 | jelly | show the actual command you ran and its full output |
| 00:21.32 | ZeroBeholder | lindylex: sudo apt-get install libgd-dev; sudo find / -name libgd-dev |
| 00:21.47 | jelly | ZeroBeholder, that ln does not make any sense at all |
| 00:21.52 | ZeroBeholder | lindylex: do what jelly is going to suggest first. |
| 00:22.11 | lindylex | ZeroBeholder : Ok. |
| 00:22.12 | ZeroBeholder | jelly: I may have the source and target mixed up |
| 00:22.34 | lindylex | This is the rror : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=880773 |
| 00:22.46 | jelly | not the syntax -- what would it accomplish? |
| 00:23.09 | lindylex | I ran this : apt-get build-dep libpst |
| 00:23.15 | jelly | lindylex, is this your bug report? |
| 00:23.29 | lindylex | And recieve this error : builddeps:libpst : Depends: libgd2-noxpm-dev but it is not installable or |
| 00:23.30 | lindylex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.37 | ZeroBeholder | jelly: If the libraries are drop in replacements it would allow him to get at the functionality even though the name of the package isn't right. |
| 00:23.43 | lindylex | That is not my bug report. |
| 00:24.16 | jelly | lindylex, can you show the actual command you ran and its full output? |
| 00:24.56 | jelly | ZeroBeholder, and why would a single ln command with a package _name_ of all things help with this? |
| 00:25.03 | lindylex | jelly : https://pastebin.com/Ls0pK7BU |
| 00:26.01 | jelly | lindylex, okay. why are you trying to build libpst, and which debian release are you running? |
| 00:26.05 | lindylex | ZeroBeholder : find / -name libgd-dev Gives me this :/usr/share/doc/libgd-dev |
| 00:26.50 | lindylex | Iam running test and I need version libpst-0.6.71 because the current version gives me a segment fault error. |
| 00:27.03 | jelly | testing? |
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| 00:27.24 | lindylex | Yes |
| 00:27.33 | jelly | lindylex, which command precisely gives you a segmentation fault? |
| 00:27.58 | ZeroBeholder | jelly: I do it all the time with python2 and python3 on the same system. I symlink python (no number) to python3. Some of my scripts complain about 'python' because on some machines it is linked to python2. But, the issue is that it is named wrong and symlinking fixes that specific problem I run into every once in a while. |
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| 00:28.22 | jelly | facepalms |
| 00:29.06 | lindylex | jelly : readpst archive.pst |
| 00:29.30 | jelly | lindylex, and readpst command is part of which package? |
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| 00:29.52 | lindylex | jelly : libpst |
| 00:30.00 | jelly | lindylex, dpkg -S $(which readpst) |
| 00:30.34 | lindylex | ? |
| 00:31.05 | jelly | lindylex, are you SURE /usr/bin/readpst is part of package named precisely "libpst"? |
| 00:31.16 | lindylex | Yes |
| 00:32.56 | lindylex | One sec let me check again. |
| 00:34.03 | lindylex | jelly : https://packages.debian.org/buster/readpst it looks like it dep pst-utils |
| 00:34.12 | ZeroBeholder | --what it seems you are trying to do is convert from a Windows format of emails stored in a single file to a format more compatible with open source software. |
| 00:34.29 | lindylex | Yes this is what I am doing. |
| 00:34.54 | lindylex | I have a .pst file I am trying to convert. |
| 00:35.03 | lindylex | I get a segment error doing this. |
| 00:35.07 | jelly | honestly you'll probably have better results trying to open with libreoffice |
| 00:35.19 | somiaj | ZeroBeholder: on debian you shouldn't link /usr/bin/python to python3, as it could break system upgrade/install/remove scripts. Point the script at the correct version of python instead. |
| 00:36.00 | lindylex | Jelly how do I open this with Libreoffice? |
| 00:36.45 | jelly | lindylex, uh, "libreoffice blah.pst" |
| 00:36.45 | lindylex | My concern is I have one of these file that is 33 gigs in size. This is why I want to do it commandline. |
| 00:37.10 | jelly | who the fuck writes 33GB powerpoint presentations |
| 00:37.33 | lindylex | It is a backup of emails |
| 00:37.50 | jelly | oh, my bad |
| 00:38.04 | jelly | that's an outlook thing |
| 00:38.20 | jelly | ignore the libreoffice suggestion then |
| 00:38.40 | lindylex | Yes an Outlook backup file. |
| 00:38.58 | ZeroBeholder | jelly: part of my thing is migration off python 2.x. I clone the system and redo all the parts that break. So, that is the desired outcome. |
| 00:39.27 | ZeroBeholder | And the shebang is always three, no particular reason besides that it should be there. |
| 00:39.35 | ZeroBeholder | *three |
| 00:39.43 | ZeroBeholder | *there |
| 00:40.02 | ZeroBeholder | left pointer won't cooperate, stupid finger |
| 00:40.46 | lindylex | Is this not the source of readpst? http://www.five-ten-sg.com/libpst/ |
| 00:42.38 | jelly | if you want to build a newer upstream version than what's in debian, look at |
| 00:42.43 | jelly | !uupdate |
| 00:42.43 | dpkg | uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>. |
| 00:42.57 | jelly | !package rebuild |
| 00:42.57 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
| 00:43.10 | ZeroBeholder | Debian is my favorite... it is my goto distro. But, it is the stable distro-- it isn't the distro for the latest and greatest (that is not proven to be good-- which is the tradeoff). Have you considered doing just this one task with Arch? |
| 00:43.17 | jelly | also since you chose testing to begin with, |
| 00:43.21 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 00:43.21 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 00:45.13 | jelly | lindylex, after you have a debian-like source tree, you can change the wrong GD build dependencies in debian/control |
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| 00:46.37 | ZeroBeholder | somiaj: part of my thing is migration off python 2.x. I clone the system and redo all the parts that break. So, that is the desired outcome. |
| 00:47.21 | lindylex | jelly : what are we talking about? How do I do this? |
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| 00:52.06 | jelly | lindylex, read what dpkg bot said about package rebuild, grab debian's source that way, grab upstream tarball, and use uupdate to make something like a debian tree with newer version. |
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| 00:52.28 | jelly | and ask in the right channel for testing |
| 00:54.27 | jelly | ZeroBeholder, that's nice but maybe avoid applying advice that works for your runtime scenarios or other distros when people are asking about build-time issues on debian |
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| 01:12.07 | RandomGuyOnIrc | when I do "find . -type f -name *py" It is only finding the files in the top directory. Why is it not finding files in subdirectories? |
| 01:13.07 | somiaj | RandomGuyOnIrc: you need to put the *py in quotes so it doesn't expand by the shell |
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| 01:33.55 | RandomGuyOnIrc | somiaj: thanks! of course |
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| 02:05.39 | inthl | clamav has some issues recently discovered that are supposed to be fixed, also according to https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/clamav -- my issue is that I do not see an update for that in aptitude. to my knowledge I should, since I have deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free ..in my apt sources.list. could one tell my what I am doing wrong? |
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| 02:06.00 | inthl | I am using stretch |
| 02:07.36 | rant | inthl: did you update your package cache? |
| 02:07.41 | inthl | sure |
| 02:10.10 | inthl | rant, I mean, *should* it be there, according to that sources.list entry? I am not sure where to look it up actually whether there is a newer version on the debian server |
| 02:10.29 | awal1 | ,v clamav |
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| 02:10.42 | awal1 | ,v clamtk |
| 02:10.46 | rant | it doesn't appear the fixes were made in stretch to me |
| 02:12.44 | inthl | stretch just has one minor version below the current one. the issue is of high severity afaik, I really would like to update this asap. so the error is at least not on my end? |
| 02:13.07 | rant | not if your version matches the one on the tracker |
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| 02:14.31 | inthl | my version is 0.99.2+dfsg-6 |
| 02:14.58 | rant | thats the latest for stretch |
| 02:15.14 | rant | ,v clamav |
| 02:15.38 | inthl | the changelog entry (pressing C in aptitude) states the latest change for Sat, 04 Feb 2017 |
| 02:15.40 | annadane | 0.99.2+dfsg-6 for stretch |
| 02:15.45 | inthl | the issue was discovered around these days |
| 02:15.50 | rant | ,versions clamav |
| 02:16.02 | rant | its responding in /msg but not in here :P |
| 02:16.17 | rant | judd: versions clamav |
| 02:16.23 | inthl | ,versions clamav |
| 02:17.55 | inthl | so my system is unpatched ...what now? :/ |
| 02:18.12 | rant | Package: clamav on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.99+dfsg-0+deb7u2; jessie-updates: 0.99+dfsg-0+deb8u2; wheezy-security: 0.99.2+dfsg-0+deb7u3; jessie: 0.99.2+dfsg-0+deb8u2; stretch: 0.99.2+dfsg-6+b1; buster: 0.99.3~beta2+dfsg-1; sid: 0.99.3~beta2+dfsg-1 |
| 02:18.24 | rant | is what judd said in /msg |
| 02:19.38 | inthl | so +b1 is what I need...? |
| 02:20.20 | rant | shrugs |
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| 02:21.59 | inthl | I have never figured out the versioning for debian here, that's why I am a little confused. I mean that stuff appended after the main+minor verion. especially that +b1 here. nevertheless, I see no updates there, also the tracker states it is vulnerable...but receives updates from -updates, ...however there are none for this case |
| 02:22.39 | inthl | so I wonder whether this is going to stay permanently that way, or a patch will make it into stretch somewhat later |
| 02:23.21 | inthl | since stretch is considered stable, I'd expect a patch there asap |
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| 06:53.33 | justadude2 | Im having trouble using airbase-ng. as I tried to connect to the network I made, and I couldn't. anybody know how to fix it? I think it has something to do with dhcp |
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| 09:17.19 | percY- | has anyone recently used a digital ocean droplet with debian 9.3? I'm getting a strange output when using adduser. sent invalidate(passwd) request, exiting, sent invalidate(group) request, exiting. Not used to seeing this. Is it normal? |
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| 09:19.48 | bernat | Hi. I have a Zotac ZBOX-ID18 with Intel HD Graphics and hotplugging a HDMI TV doesn't work. The TV has to be on when the computer boots because switching it on after the computer boots won't detect it. |
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| 09:22.24 | xz | hi there, I installed wordpress on debian using wiki.debian.org/WordPress |
| 09:22.40 | xz | however it's sort of broken, I would like to wipe it out and start from scratch |
| 09:22.58 | xz | wiki doesn't describe removing wordpress, do you have any suggestions? |
| 09:27.20 | brimonk | apt-get remove wordpress curl apache2 mysql-server |
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| 09:38.33 | arha_ | xz: check around /var/www/html |
| 09:39.10 | xz | arha_, following the wiki it installed wordpress under /usr/share/wordpress |
| 09:40.07 | arha_ | ugh... that's a very involved tutorial, creating a vhost and everything |
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| 09:41.07 | arha_ | remove /var/lib/wordpress/, apt-get remove wordpress, drop its relevant db |
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| 09:41.46 | arha_ | you know php scripts like this are easier installed by downloading them in the www dir, unpacking and running? |
| 09:41.52 | arha_ | they usually have an install.php |
| 09:42.03 | xz | arha_, I just wanted to do it debian way |
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| 09:45.59 | bernat | xz: read the instructions in /usr/share/doc/wordpress then |
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| 12:27.20 | BluesKaj | wonder if there's a secret to installing the nvidia legacy 340 dkms driver without breaking my system. Already tried on stretch 9.3 KDE/Plasma without success, and already tried here on buster and it broke the system as well, so i reinstalled to / and am running with the nouveau driver for now which works, mostly. My gpu is a GeForce 210. |
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| 12:32.03 | rant | BluesKaj: did you make sure your kernel was up-to-date before installing? |
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| 12:33.01 | BluesKaj | rant: yes, aamof I did on both OSs |
| 12:33.05 | rant | BluesKaj: I just walked a new user through this process the other night and the headers they installed with the driver were not matching their kernel version because there was a linux-image being kept back from upgrade |
| 12:33.27 | BluesKaj | ahha |
| 12:34.01 | rant | apparently some people forget to update and upgrade after installing |
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| 12:37.05 | BluesKaj | I used the tut with the linux headers and the non-free and contrib deb source to build the driver with dkms and the result was failure after a reboot |
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| 12:38.52 | rant | wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers that? |
| 12:39.18 | BluesKaj | the fail error went by too fast to read up upon reboot |
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| 12:39.32 | rant | it doesn't mention making sure you've upgraded first.. just tells you to update after changing sources |
| 12:39.59 | rant | that can result in you getting latest headers while still having an outdated kernel |
| 12:42.43 | rant | BluesKaj: you'd need to enable ssh or something to figure out whats going on.. if you dont see any nv, noveau, or nvidia drivers loaded then thats probably the problem |
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| 12:45.27 | BluesKaj | Busrer uses 4.14.0-3-amd64 kernel and I beleive it's the latest one,available, is it not/ |
| 12:45.35 | BluesKaj | Buster |
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| 12:51.16 | rant | I think you're missing the point |
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| 12:51.47 | BluesKaj | rant the thing is the vt/tty was available to remove the drivers and dkms etc and reinstall nouveau, also there's no mention of installing nvidia-xconfig on Buster so maybe I'm too far ahead of the curve because those fixes still failed to work |
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| 12:52.25 | rant | lets say I install stable and I'm using the first point release and end up with fookernel-fooversion-debu1 then I apt-get update and install fookernel-headers but theyre vooversion-debu3 |
| 12:52.44 | rant | those headers are not going to be compatible because the version is different |
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| 12:52.56 | rant | even though they're technically the same kernel version |
| 12:53.10 | BluesKaj | yes, undertsood |
| 12:53.22 | rant | modprobe is very picky about things like that.. |
| 12:56.21 | BluesKaj | odd because the driver installs , one would think it it would fail to install if there's a kernel module mismatch |
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| 13:03.09 | bitSt0rm | Is it possible to write a disk image for windows with 'dd'? Somehow the ntfs filesystem disappears on my attempts :-/ |
| 13:04.23 | arha_ | maybe you're missing the mbr/gpt ? |
| 13:05.58 | bitSt0rm | Possibility, I formatted with gparted but could try using fdisk |
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| 13:07.18 | bitSt0rm | A funny thing is, my USB appears on the pc-boot screen as one of those oldschool rectangular disks (not sure what they are called inglish) |
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| 13:14.53 | user0 | What is the diff between physical memory and virtual memory ? |
| 13:17.19 | rant | BluesKaj: it will fail to load, it will not fail to build.. as I found out the other night |
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| 13:18.45 | rant | bitSt0rm: we call them floppy disks or floppies, even the ones encased in hard shells, because the actual media is flexible |
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| 13:22.00 | rant | user0: physical memory is ram, virtual memory is swap.. physical memory is used first because its obviously faster. |
| 13:22.16 | user0 | rant thanks |
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| 13:24.57 | rant | user0: where it gets hairy is the overlapping terms when you're speaking of resident/shared/virtual memory from a process standpoint |
| 13:26.13 | user0 | As noob as i am, i overlap everything in IT |
| 13:27.34 | user0 | What override mean ? over write ? |
| 13:27.40 | rant | user0: from a process standpoing Virtual memory VIRT, is everything the process has mapped, this includes ram, swam, video ram, etc.. |
| 13:28.18 | user0 | rant will try to not forget that |
| 13:28.35 | rant | where resident is its actual locked ram size and shared is things like cache that it's willing to give up if other processes need it |
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| 13:29.54 | rant | user0: you just mentioned recognizing overlap then asked a question without context.. |
| 13:31.29 | rakor | Hey there... What is the best setting (in host and guest) if I want to have usefull graphics when making a VM in KVM (using virt manager). Host and Guest are both Linux. |
| 13:31.55 | rakor | With defaults I get bad resolution and I don't find a usefull guide |
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| 13:32.00 | user0 | I have a system hypervisor and i need activate mail notification for alerts. In alerts settings they asks me if i want override syscontact email i said yes and give another email address. |
| 13:32.38 | user0 | But it does not work so i'm not shure of the word override. |
| 13:32.55 | user0 | And google translate do not helped |
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| 13:35.56 | rakor | OK, seems "virtio" as Host is a good choice. |
| 13:36.02 | rant | override, overlap, circumvent, means to forcibly get around something's normal behavior or function |
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| 13:37.43 | user0 | ok |
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| 13:38.55 | rant | override in that context is more like an overlay/overlap than a circumvent.. its to substitute an alternative more than bypassing it altogether which is what circumvent means, like sliding a card between the bolt of a door to get around using the key |
| 13:40.05 | user0 | i will try without override brb |
| 13:44.13 | rakor | OK. Next thing will be to get the mouse moving fluidly... At the moment the movement is terrible |
| 13:44.30 | rakor | (using a trackpoint) |
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| 13:48.42 | FraJah | Hello any tutorials how to setup Debian 9.3 with nginx, fail2ban, ufw, letsencrypt, php7.1? |
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| 13:49.24 | rant | install debian, then run apt-get install nginx fail2ban ufw letsencrypt php |
| 13:49.54 | dvs | !prize rant |
| 13:49.54 | dpkg | gives rant a beer. |
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| 13:50.12 | FraJah | rrr :) |
| 13:50.26 | FraJah | kk i will google harder. |
| 13:50.52 | rant | was being serious |
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| 13:52.56 | rant | google is your best hope if you were lookin for something to read your mind.. cause what I said is how to do it.. if you need more help than that you've gotta be more specific |
| 13:53.51 | FraJah | So i want to setup a VPS for developing WP websites, so would need some kind of guide of that. I run debian 9.3 |
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| 13:54.55 | user0 | https://ibb.co/mKkdbw https://ibb.co/dNkBww i have no mails |
| 13:55.20 | user0 | it worked yesterday with only default contact as ON |
| 13:55.31 | user0 | but i want to send mail to another contact too |
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| 14:12.39 | daishun | if I type: "ln -s linkme ~/Desktop/linkmelink" and then go to my desktop and click on "linkmelink" it says "target linkme doesn't exist". What am I doing wrong? |
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| 14:19.03 | gpunk | ln -s /pathto/linkme ~/Desktop/linkmelink |
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| 15:23.50 | Tuxist | hi i have problem with a network bridge with lxc only guest have inet connection not the host himself |
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| 15:32.10 | zomaar | Does apt-get in any way automatically delete archives when using upgrade or dist-upgrade mode? |
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| 15:33.11 | dvs | ??? apt-get doesn't delete archives. |
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| 15:41.54 | babilen | zomaar: Take a look at the APT::Clean-Installed setting |
| 15:42.36 | babilen | apt-get and apt differ in their defaults, so you might want to describe exactly what you are seeing and what you'd expect |
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| 15:46.03 | Tuxist | i think the problem it's that debian set link local addr for eth0 how can i disable that |
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| 15:49.08 | zomaar | babilen: I did use apt dist-upgrade |
| 15:49.11 | zomaar | I think |
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| 15:49.44 | zomaar | I just tried to reuse packages and a bunch were gone |
| 15:50.16 | zomaar | So what are apt's defaults? |
| 15:50.20 | dvs | zomaar, apt-get can remove PACKAGES but not archive. |
| 15:52.39 | zomaar | dvs: apt-get has clean and autoclean operations that can remove archives |
| 15:53.21 | zomaar | babilen: when I use apt-config shell VAR option I do not get a return if the value is not set |
| 15:53.27 | dvs | zomaar, so can dist-upgrade. That option allows the addition and removal of package.s |
| 15:53.58 | zomaar | What option? |
| 15:54.16 | dvs | dist-upgrade |
| 15:54.40 | zomaar | I was not talking about packages, I was talking about archives |
| 15:55.07 | dvs | <zomaar> I just tried to reuse packages and a bunch were gone |
| 15:55.28 | zomaar | It's clear I meant archives there |
| 15:55.47 | zomaar | .debs |
| 15:56.19 | dvs | .debs are packages. deb.debian.org are archives. |
| 15:57.00 | zomaar | It's called /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 15:57.05 | zomaar | I was talking about that, that should have been clear |
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| 16:21.00 | ix__ | so I've compiled a kernel but it will not boot, something about crc32c missing, which is odd, as I've used the same .config file as another working kernel |
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| 16:23.18 | plop1342 | How can I send bytes directly to a friend's computer, if he gives me his IP? |
| 16:23.29 | plop1342 | without 3rd party server |
| 16:23.54 | plop1342 | we probably need to send bytes to each other so that it enables NAT traversal? |
| 16:24.50 | well_laid_lawn | try ftp or netcat |
| 16:25.05 | plop1342 | well_laid_lawn: ftp? |
| 16:25.17 | plop1342 | I don't want to give him a login/password |
| 16:25.24 | plop1342 | but more like a chat |
| 16:26.08 | well_laid_lawn | you can do that with netcat |
| 16:27.40 | well_laid_lawn | https://nmap.org/ncat/guide/ncat-usage.html |
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| 16:35.39 | sh0kx | From Debian Live it is possible to install it on a mounted file system? i.e. in /mnt |
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| 16:37.57 | shtrb | sh0kx, it is possible some people have reported that there had been issues with the text install |
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| 16:38.16 | shtrb | you can even install on a non mounted fs (using the GUI installer) |
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| 16:39.19 | sh0kx | I have my new file system created on /mnt/ which the root / |
| 16:39.37 | sh0kx | I just need to install it on it |
| 16:39.55 | sh0kx | there is a command line tool to use from live |
| 16:39.56 | shtrb | debootstrap can be your friend |
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| 16:40.08 | shtrb | I understand, but using d-i is easier |
| 16:40.23 | sh0kx | d-i is debootsrap? |
| 16:40.37 | diveyez | http://steamcommunity.com/id/diveyez/screenshots/#scrollTop=0 |
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| 16:40.56 | diveyez | Wearing a Linux Inside patch on my arm, I need to make a Debian patch =) |
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| 16:41.15 | diveyez | plop1342: netcat is amazing |
| 16:41.22 | diveyez | nc localhost 22 |
| 16:41.26 | diveyez | heh |
| 16:41.37 | shtrb | sh0kx, no two different tools (debbootstrap allow you to install using bootstraping) while d-i (debian-installer) is a very simple tool to install debian without any hassle |
| 16:42.06 | diveyez | localhost [127.0.0.1] 22 (ssh) : Connection refused |
| 16:42.08 | diveyez | ;)_ |
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| 16:43.16 | sh0kx | I'm on live debian. I saw that debian-installer is not there by default so I have installed with apt |
| 16:43.37 | sh0kx | sudo debian-installer is not found as a command |
| 16:43.51 | diveyez | Wireshark updated? Sweet. |
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| 16:44.21 | diveyez | Um. |
| 16:44.25 | plop1342 | diveyez: i posted https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/420242/how-can-i-send-bytes-to-a-friends-distant-computer-without-3rd-party-server |
| 16:44.31 | diveyez | It should be a mountpoint |
| 16:44.34 | shtrb | sh0kx, no , you only need to reboot and select gui debian installer during boot |
| 16:46.13 | diveyez | root@stack2:~# ncat -l r2nhosting.com 80 < echo "hello world" |
| 16:46.13 | diveyez | -bash: echo: No such file or directory |
| 16:46.16 | diveyez | That didnt work lol |
| 16:46.17 | sh0kx | so I think this is the problem. I am encrypting the boot partition so I can't reboot the machine. I need first to install debian on my root partition. Then I will need to create the boot partition and after that I can restart. |
| 16:46.43 | diveyez | Why encrypt the boot? Encrypt the filesystem... |
| 16:46.50 | plop1342 | diveyez: oh echo it's a pipe problem |
| 16:47.00 | plop1342 | diveyez: how should I do then? |
| 16:47.06 | BluesKaj | odd, I had nothing but trouble with GUI installer on stretch 9.3, but the text install went perfectly |
| 16:47.07 | plop1342 | to pass text with < ? |
| 16:47.28 | diveyez | Im considering installing sid on everything this week |
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| 16:48.10 | diveyez | plop1342: I saw your stackexchange last week, or earlier this week should we say. I thought it was a cute idea. |
| 16:48.22 | diveyez | You are going to need to ping with the info... ;) |
| 16:48.43 | diveyez | But hey, you can try to ping r2nhosting.com and see why your netcat abuse wont ever work lol |
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| 16:50.20 | diveyez | plop1342: I have a way to send bits in a packet with a message, but it is considered to be a ddos attack in 2018 lol |
| 16:50.39 | plop1342 | what? |
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| 16:50.45 | plop1342 | why would it be a ddos? |
| 16:51.01 | diveyez | modified icmp is not welcome, all your base are belong to FISA |
| 16:51.20 | sh0kx | plop1342: Who send the file run this: cat file_to_transfer | nc -l <ext_interface> -p 10111 |
| 16:51.56 | diveyez | Im off to game more. Coded something neat earlier. Time to break off. |
| 16:51.59 | sh0kx | Who receive run: nc -w <IP_of_sender> 10111 > file_transfered |
| 16:52.28 | sh0kx | If you are behind NAT |
| 16:52.28 | plop1342 | sh0kx: the receiver should run it first? |
| 16:52.46 | plop1342 | yes we are behind nat |
| 16:52.50 | sh0kx | you have to open port and redirect traffic to your machine from that port |
| 16:52.56 | diveyez | Sending unencrypted bits, even encrypted with ssl, isnt very smart.. |
| 16:53.08 | plop1342 | diveyez: it's just to understand how networking works |
| 16:53.08 | diveyez | Just do yourselves a favor and make an ircd |
| 16:53.19 | plop1342 | it's not to use it in real life |
| 16:53.34 | sh0kx | this is of course just for educational |
| 16:53.36 | diveyez | https://github.com/diveyez/iptables-dnsbl-anti.ddos-dofw |
| 16:53.42 | diveyez | Thats how networking works |
| 16:53.43 | plop1342 | yeah |
| 16:53.45 | diveyez | lol |
| 16:54.02 | plop1342 | diveyez: before adding layers of encryption etc. i need to understand how basic things work |
| 16:54.14 | plop1342 | then it'll be easy to undersstand how to add a security layer on top |
| 16:54.33 | plop1342 | sh0kx: open port and redirect traffic, how? |
| 16:54.37 | diveyez | openvpn -> netcat his ip and ports with the file to send with the -w in netcat |
| 16:54.39 | plop1342 | on the NAT's configuration? |
| 16:55.23 | plop1342 | i'd like to do it without port forwarding / without NAT configuration |
| 16:55.30 | plop1342 | I read it's possible to do it without (with hole punching?) |
| 16:56.11 | sh0kx | you have to establish some sort of tunnel if you want to avoid configuring NAT side |
| 16:56.25 | diveyez | Just do the file send like he said, I would personally use php for that though, it needs to be a web page to hit his web in a way he can process it |
| 16:56.47 | diveyez | He can tail the logs and see it |
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| 16:57.21 | plop1342 | diveyez: no php, |
| 16:57.23 | diveyez | ^^ what sh0kx said: openvpn or go home crying with an unsolved problem |
| 16:57.45 | plop1342 | for educational purpose, i'd like to understand how can 2 computers talk to each other without a 3rd party server |
| 16:58.03 | shtrb | sh0kx, or he can use pwnat or something like that |
| 16:58.13 | plop1342 | diveyez: using a ready-to-use solution won't teach me anything ;) |
| 16:58.35 | plop1342 | shtrb: yes i heard about pwnat |
| 16:58.37 | diveyez | Yes it will, nothing is ready to use *nix lol |
| 16:58.43 | shtrb | plop1342, look at pwnat and read it's code |
| 16:58.44 | diveyez | ALWYAS troubleshooting |
| 16:58.50 | shtrb | but it will not work always |
| 16:58.55 | diveyez | If your not troubleshooting debian your not doing it right lol |
| 16:59.11 | plop1342 | shtrb: i already looked at chownat too, but could't make it work :) |
| 16:59.30 | tds | plop1342: just run a serial connection between them ;) |
| 16:59.32 | diveyez | Game time, b e z and safe edu (I wouldnt use netcat for that anyway) |
| 16:59.56 | shtrb | plop1342, pwnat (and UDP hole punching) works to avoid NAT by opening holes , you can also check DCC to see understand the globals |
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| 17:00.25 | sh0kx | if you are behind a router that is doing NAT, your machine will never be seen directly from outside, unless you put your machine in a DMZ and expose directly your services to the world |
| 17:01.04 | sh0kx | for that you need port redirect. When a connection hit your router at a specific port he will do the work for you to redirect that connection to the same specific port on your machine |
| 17:01.45 | plop1342 | sh0kx: if I send a packet to IP 123.123.123.123, then my router will temporarily know that I'm ok to __receive__ bytes from this IP too, right? |
| 17:02.12 | plop1342 | Thus it will create an authorization to receive data from this IP, that will be autoatmically redirect by router to my computer, is that right? |
| 17:02.13 | sh0kx | for a particular TCP session, yes |
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| 17:02.38 | plop1342 | sh0kx: so if both me and my friends do this at same time |
| 17:02.57 | plop1342 | it will make our routers know we are ok to dialogue, right? |
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| 17:04.06 | sh0kx | for that particular session |
| 17:04.14 | sh0kx | you want to inject data in another session |
| 17:04.18 | sh0kx | I'm confused |
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| 17:04.33 | sh0kx | you are trying to mimate some kind of attack? |
| 17:04.39 | sh0kx | which one? |
| 17:04.48 | sh0kx | so we can speak same language |
| 17:05.14 | plop1342 | i don't know at all |
| 17:05.23 | plop1342 | i know very few about such kind of networking |
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| 17:05.50 | sh0kx | you should start from TCP/IP stack to understand |
| 17:05.52 | plop1342 | i was just hoping it's possible to send bytes from computer A to computer B without 3rd party server, without messing with config |
| 17:05.57 | plop1342 | yep |
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| 17:06.07 | plop1342 | that's what I wanted to do by doing it |
| 17:06.07 | plop1342 | :) |
| 17:06.32 | tds | the key issue is that your NAT won't know what to do on either side with the incoming packets, unless you do fancy nat traversal tricks |
| 17:06.39 | sh0kx | simple answer: you can't if you're behind a router that is doing NAT |
| 17:06.43 | tds | (or you manually tell it to forward certain ports) |
| 17:06.57 | plop1342 | but chownat claims it's possible? |
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| 17:07.04 | plop1342 | https://samy.pl/chownat/ |
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| 17:07.30 | noze | is there a way to check what bluetooth profiles a connected device supports? |
| 17:07.31 | plop1342 | family time, brb |
| 17:07.43 | sh0kx | you don't know the basic of TCP/IP but you want to bypass NAT |
| 17:07.47 | sh0kx | that's funny |
| 17:08.10 | plop1342 | sh0kx things aren't total black or total white |
| 17:08.30 | sh0kx | so download the code |
| 17:08.39 | sh0kx | read it |
| 17:08.42 | sh0kx | and execute |
| 17:09.02 | plop1342 | ok will do that |
| 17:09.03 | plop1342 | thx |
| 17:09.19 | sh0kx | as tds said you have to do fancy stuff to achieve this |
| 17:09.29 | sh0kx | for this I wrote 'simple answer' |
| 17:10.07 | tds | simple answer, just forward ports on one end, and it will all work fine |
| 17:10.39 | plop1342 | sh0kx oh it's you who posted the answer on stackexchange? |
| 17:10.45 | plop1342 | if so thanks |
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| 17:10.58 | sh0kx | it's not me |
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| 17:12.49 | tds | hmm, I don't quite understand how chownat works though, since I'd have thought that NAT on both sides would end up rewriting ports and you can't tell the mapped port on either side |
| 17:13.33 | alkisg | There are many tools that do hole punching or upnp for p2p file transfer, one just needs to see if the tool he uses support it |
| 17:13.40 | alkisg | E.g. https://ring.cx/en/about/practical => Connectivity first: the purpose of a communication software is ... to communicate! Ring uses protocols such as ICE, STUN/TURN, UPnP and NAT-PMP which allow you to join your peers even in difficult network configurations such as multiple firewalls and NAT. |
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| 17:17.02 | velix | Hi, I want to hire a freelancer (e. g. on freelancer. com) to create a Debian package for me. The tool has been available in the repository for years, but I would like to have a simplified version of it, in which I can include the source code from the GIT. I'm not a beginner, but making Debian packages is a bit complicated. What is a reasonable price I could offer for such an undertaking? |
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| 17:23.25 | rmk0 | hello. does the debian live cd contain the installer (graphical or otherwise)? |
| 17:23.41 | rmk0 | the installer you would get if you used one of the non-live installer cds, i mean |
| 17:24.19 | sh0kx | yes |
| 17:24.36 | rmk0 | sh0kx: where is it hiding? i can't seem to find it |
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| 17:25.11 | sh0kx | https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 17:25.30 | rmk0 | sh0kx: sorry, i meant where is the installer hiding on the live CD? |
| 17:25.55 | rmk0 | i have the live CD booted in virtualbox. i've done some manual installs with debootstrap and the like, but i'm trying to find the actual graphical installer |
| 17:26.02 | sh0kx | when you boot the CD/USB stick you should have an option to run installer |
| 17:26.42 | sh0kx | explain, because I'm trying to achieve the same |
| 17:26.55 | sh0kx | did you installed on a mounted file system? |
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| 17:27.32 | rmk0 | sh0kx: hm, let me go back to grub... i think you're right, the installer may be an option there |
| 17:27.41 | sh0kx | I don't know if you can recall the GUI installer from within the live system, if this is what you asking |
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| 17:28.11 | rmk0 | ah yeah, there we go. there's a "Graphical Debian Installer" in the grub menu. i assumed you could run it from the live desktop itself, but evidently not |
| 17:28.21 | rmk0 | thanks! |
| 17:28.46 | user0 | Hey, how can i backup a vps through ssh i'm going with ssh user@host "dd if=/dev/sda " | dd of=/Users/user0/host.dd but if i broke my host and want to restore to clean install will i am able to restore without rescue mode ? |
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| 17:29.34 | user0 | i can reinstall os but will i am be able to restore the backup then ? |
| 17:29.53 | user0 | I have a backup option but wanna do it myself |
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| 17:33.18 | sh0kx | user0: to start you can backup only the partition you need, instead of the whole disk. In this way will be easier to restore |
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| 17:33.53 | user0 | partition ? |
| 17:34.00 | sh0kx | anyway if you are reaching the system via SSH and the partition that you want to restore is the one with the root file system you will nevere be able to do it if not connecting through other mean |
| 17:34.04 | user0 | i have sda1 and sda2 only |
| 17:34.46 | user0 | and swap i think |
| 17:34.57 | user0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:34.59 | sh0kx | you don't need to back swap |
| 17:35.21 | sh0kx | you need only root and others if you have, which is not your case |
| 17:36.29 | sh0kx | anyway you can later mount locally that backup |
| 17:36.37 | sh0kx | and copy folders/files need it |
| 17:36.47 | sh0kx | maybe you can write a bash script to do this for you |
| 17:38.27 | user0 | In fact, i have a debian with mail server nginx configured with website etc ... and i want to do a dist-upgrade to proxmox-ve this is why am scared about this update and so i do a backup what do you think about this ? |
| 17:38.38 | user0 | I dont want to broke my actual debian if possible |
| 17:40.29 | sh0kx | I don't think upgrading pxmox will do any harm |
| 17:40.42 | sh0kx | but for sure doing a backup is recommended |
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| 17:41.39 | jhutchins | You don't want to back up a live filesystem with dd. |
| 17:42.25 | jhutchins | You need to copy the un-mounted partitions. |
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| 17:45.20 | user0 | jhutchins: i cannot unmount root and copy it |
| 17:45.44 | user0 | i have no rescue access to vps |
| 17:46.28 | user0 | can't reboot as rescue no console access only ssh |
| 17:46.28 | jhutchins | In that case you need to do a file copy and exclude things like /proc, /sys, and /dev. |
| 17:46.55 | jhutchins | user0: You could stand up another VM and access the drive file (at least with some VM systems). |
| 17:47.31 | user0 | my vm is from a provider |
| 17:47.37 | user0 | i have no hypervisor |
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| 18:04.05 | psih0man | hello. I'm trying to install tor-browser by following the official Wiki, on an new debian 9 installation, but it fails as described here: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/updated-debian-9-now-tor-browser-not-working-4175622546/ |
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| 18:04.26 | psih0man | do you know if there is a bug opened about this issue? |
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| 18:06.16 | psih0man | it successfully downloads and verifies the browser, but the installation step hangs right after it starts |
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| 18:16.01 | reber | hey all. What are the best tools you can use for making rolling backups please ? |
| 18:16.34 | nkuttler | reber: define best |
| 18:16.47 | shtrb | reber, rsync ? |
| 18:18.24 | reber | nkuttler, yes of course, i'm doing better : a list. i'm hesiting between backupc, bup, burp, borg, bacula, duplicity. |
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| 18:18.49 | nkuttler | reber: i use backuppc |
| 18:19.19 | reber | nkuttler, best : easy to use, compression, deduplication, rolling backups (automated deletion of old backups) etc. |
| 18:19.21 | nkuttler | bacula was a pita to set up and too hard to debug. borg gets it wron imo, backups should be pulled, not pushed |
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| 18:19.46 | sh0kx | rsync for me is the best |
| 18:19.57 | nkuttler | rsync is no backup solution, it just copies files |
| 18:20.14 | somiaj | psih0man: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888236 -- might be related, that is for sid though, but there is a workaround. |
| 18:20.15 | nkuttler | most backup tools can *use* rsync to transfer files though |
| 18:20.29 | reber | nkuttler, is backuppc database related ? |
| 18:20.45 | reber | I mean is it mandatory to have a database to get it run ? |
| 18:20.56 | nkuttler | reber: it doesn't use a database |
| 18:21.00 | reber | ok cool |
| 18:21.46 | somiaj | rsync can be made into a backup solution, it kinda depends on use case though, but unless you want to fully design your backup system use something besides rsync. |
| 18:22.03 | reber | nkuttler, I don't understand what you said about bork : backup should be pulled, not pushed. Afaik borg pulled, isn't it ? |
| 18:22.11 | reber | s/bork/borg |
| 18:22.27 | nkuttler | reber: maybe i didn't work with it long enough, but i only read about pushing backups |
| 18:22.43 | nkuttler | but apparently i'll have to deploy it at work soon.. |
| 18:23.13 | nkuttler | reber: borg lets users encrypt their backups for example, because they push them |
| 18:23.33 | nkuttler | ofc that's also flawed imo, because if users can't backup their own data, how do they back up their private keys.. |
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| 18:24.55 | reber | nkuttler, i thought that backuppc was like bacula, a pain in the ass to setup ... Is backuppc easy to setup ? |
| 18:25.09 | nkuttler | reber: well.. |
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| 18:25.52 | nkuttler | reber: there are different ways to set it up. i just let backuppc ssh into the machines and use rsync over ssh. pretty easy to set up |
| 18:26.40 | reber | ok good. I'm giving a try thanks nkuttler |
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| 18:27.28 | nkuttler | reber: you should probably get more opinions, most of the tools you listed have their own channels |
| 18:28.25 | reber | nkuttler, yes I know and that's a wide question. All the tools I listed seems to be valuable but the need really time to try them each after another ... :( |
| 18:28.46 | reber | s/the/they |
| 18:29.19 | nkuttler | i guess you should try more than one. i may like backuppc best simply because it's the first serious backup tool i've used |
| 18:29.52 | reber | I tried borg I looks interesting |
| 18:29.59 | reber | tried just a little |
| 18:30.09 | reber | it's script based |
| 18:30.22 | nkuttler | it does have some nice features. but like i said, i dislike pushing backups |
| 18:30.32 | reber | cron based |
| 18:31.02 | reber | I really don't see where it's pushing because, all cron seems to be run on the server, and all is done with ssh |
| 18:31.55 | nkuttler | yes, you ssh *into* the backup host |
| 18:31.56 | reber | you define the source and the destination like in a rsync script |
| 18:32.05 | dtux | does a package's migration to testing imply the intent to put it in a release eventually? |
| 18:32.05 | reber | no |
| 18:32.18 | reber | borg server ssh into the clients |
| 18:32.24 | reber | at least that's what I saw |
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| 18:32.41 | nkuttler | reber: can you point me to the docs for that? |
| 18:32.45 | reber | yes course |
| 18:32.53 | dtux | (wondering about firefox and 817954) |
| 18:32.56 | somiaj | dtux: during this phase of the release, packages migrate into testing that will be considered for teh release. Once testing freezes, packages that have rc bugs (or depend on packages that have rc bugs) will be removed. |
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| 18:33.27 | somiaj | dtux: note there is a time frame for matainers to fix rc bugs, but if they don't get fixed in time, they are removed. |
| 18:34.43 | somiaj | dtux: if what you really meant was stretch-backports. Once a package is in testing, a matainer could choose to make a backport, but this depends on package/matainer. |
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| 18:35.09 | SuperTramp83 | psih0man: installation? No such thing is needed. Go on the torproject website, download the tar, get the signing key, the .asc and use gpg to verify the tar, extract it and run the executable. |
| 18:35.43 | dtux | why cant debian support firefox for stable/testing? |
| 18:36.06 | nkuttler | ,v firefox |
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| 18:36.27 | rant | ,v firefox-esr |
| 18:36.38 | somiaj | sometimes judd is updating its database, give it a moment |
| 18:36.39 | rant | judd still acting up I see |
| 18:36.47 | nkuttler | not in the channel |
| 18:36.54 | rant | last night it was working fine in the /msg but not in channel |
| 18:37.03 | nkuttler | yeah, msg works fine |
| 18:37.14 | nkuttler | themill: judd is missing |
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| 18:37.22 | somiaj | anyways, I think firefox has an issue with that debian likes to ensure that all software it distrubites in main can be built with tools in main, and I don't think rust is yet fully in debian. |
| 18:37.45 | somiaj | Though since it is firefox, they may find a way to provide a binary even if it can't be fully built. |
| 18:37.46 | rant | themill: specifically judd is responding in /msg but not in the channel.. its here just not triggering. |
| 18:38.12 | psih0man | SuperTramp83, there is a torbrowser-launcher in backports that is recommended: https://wiki.debian.org/TorBrowser#Debian_9_.22Stretch.22 |
| 18:38.16 | somiaj | rant: judd isn't in the channel, so won't be able to respond. Some join issue with the bot (maybe hit a netsplit and coudln't get in) |
| 18:38.38 | rant | ah.. wel last night it was here.. I tab-completed it by name |
| 18:38.52 | somiaj | yea, currently not, hence maybe a netsplit issue |
| 18:39.10 | dtux | somiaj: i see... no bug tracking that? |
| 18:39.22 | reber | nkuttler, for the moment I just tried borg from local to local repositories, then I think you're right, the only alternative would be to sshfs directories and then do backup :/ Not a solution really :/ : https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/quickstart.html#a-step-by-step-example |
| 18:39.36 | somiaj | dtux: bug tracker on the rust thing? I think it will be a RFP bug or something like that to get rust into debian. |
| 18:40.03 | reber | In this example the backup is pushed you're right |
| 18:40.16 | SuperTramp83 | psih0man: what is recommended is you use the TorBB without improvising and without changing the slightest bit of it. Go on the official website and read 'want tor to work?' |
| 18:40.19 | somiaj | dtux: as for if they will provided firefox binaries that are built with tools outside of debian, unsure. The debian build system really isn't setup for this, my hope is they figure out how to get rust into debian (and I'm unsure on any progress) |
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| 18:40.57 | reber | I heard good things about backuppc, and bup and burp too. |
| 18:41.16 | dtux | somiaj: yes. ok (what is an RFP bug?) |
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| 18:41.32 | psih0man | SuperTramp83, what do you mean by "improvising"? |
| 18:41.41 | somiaj | dtux: request for package |
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| 18:42.16 | SuperTramp83 | psih0man: building your own TorBB |
| 18:42.24 | pozeidonaptic | hello |
| 18:42.28 | dtux | somiaj: got it, thank you! so, seems like ff may end up in testing eventually... if rust gets added |
| 18:42.38 | rant | psih0man: the tor folks don't recommend packaging their browser.. they want you to keep it up to date and obtain and verify it yourself directly from upstream |
| 18:42.59 | somiaj | dtux: I'm sure there is push to get firefox into testing and then stable (the new esr in a few months will require rust to build) |
| 18:43.14 | somiaj | dtux: I'm not sure on any work, or how they are going to fully handel the rust siutation. |
| 18:43.14 | SuperTramp83 | rant: also being it same for everyone it takes care of fingerprinting, an actual issue |
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| 18:44.48 | psih0man | SuperTramp83, the linked article does not improvise anything. it is a download automation using apt. it only installs a launcher and using that, it downloads the browser, verifies it and unpacks it, just like I would manually. Debian is not the only distro having this automation in place |
| 18:45.36 | sh0kx | when I launch from a live Debian system: debootstrap --arch=amd64 stretch /mnt/ |
| 18:45.42 | sh0kx | it will install also the kernel? |
| 18:45.47 | somiaj | sh0kx: no |
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| 18:46.15 | SuperTramp83 | psih0man: I see. You can do that manually in less than 3 minutes :) |
| 18:46.24 | somiaj | sh0kx: you could add options to force it to install the kernel during the debootstrap process, but you would still have to also install grub and configure/install it from inside a chroot after the debootstrap |
| 18:46.36 | dtux | waits patiently |
| 18:46.48 | sh0kx | thanks |
| 18:47.06 | sh0kx | so --include linux-image-amd64 will do the job to install same kernel as the live system have? |
| 18:47.33 | somiaj | sh0kx: it sitll won't make it bootable, I don't think there is a way to avoid having to chroot into the install and make it bootable. |
| 18:48.14 | sh0kx | For now I need only the kernel, then I will set up the bootloader |
| 18:48.27 | sh0kx | but to work the kernel image should match the one on the live system |
| 18:48.38 | sh0kx | because I will generate grub configuration from the live system |
| 18:49.13 | somiaj | sh0kx: that meta package will pull in the most recent kernel. If your live system has an older kernel it may not match. |
| 18:49.47 | somiaj | example, I don't thik the 9.3 live system has the new kpi (for meltdown) kernel in it, and you'll have to wait for 9.4 for that. |
| 18:49.47 | sh0kx | I freshly donwload it today (live cd image) |
| 18:50.10 | sh0kx | somiaj: really?? |
| 18:50.22 | somiaj | if in the live system run uname -a to check |
| 18:50.34 | somiaj | but yes, the 9.3 release happened before meltdown was made public and patched. |
| 18:50.55 | somiaj | 9.3 was released and the live images built based on the kernel December 9th, 2017 |
| 18:51.07 | sh0kx | yep |
| 18:51.10 | sh0kx | you're right |
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| 18:53.34 | sh0kx | I will need to upgrade later the kernel |
| 18:54.14 | sh0kx | so if I do --include linux-image-amd64 will I have I mismatch on kernel version? |
| 18:54.51 | somiaj | that metapackage will pull in the most recent kernel which seems to be newer, so yes |
| 18:55.07 | somiaj | the abi changed, even changed the package name. You would have to get the old kernel manually off of snapshot.debian.org |
| 18:55.34 | somiaj | what is your overall goal, why does the kernel have to be the same? Are you trying to script an install? |
| 18:56.02 | sh0kx | I'm trying to encrypt the boot partition |
| 18:56.12 | sh0kx | so I have to manually generate grub config |
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| 18:56.39 | sh0kx | I need first to install the base system on my root system |
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| 18:56.47 | sh0kx | which is mounted on /mnt/ |
| 18:56.53 | somiaj | woudln't that be something that would be easier to do after the install? I don't see why you can just mount --bind /dev, /proc, etc and just do this all fomr inside the chroot. |
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| 18:57.56 | sh0kx | then I will bind those so I can chroot in it |
| 18:58.26 | stemid | hey I'm kinda sick of unattended-upgrades causing issues on servers due to filled up /boot. clearly I'm missing something in the setup. so how do you guys use unattended-upgrades? my theory is that I need to reboot weekly (for example) and @reboot run apt-get autoremove. but I have to ask what others do. |
| 18:58.50 | sh0kx | you mean to not use debootstrap, bind directly /dev, /proc and other and go in chroot |
| 18:58.55 | sh0kx | ? |
| 18:59.09 | somiaj | stemid: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:59.23 | sh0kx | Debian 9.3 Live CD image |
| 18:59.33 | stemid | somiaj: stretch. |
| 18:59.43 | stemid | but this goes back |
| 18:59.45 | stemid | a few releases |
| 19:00.04 | sh0kx | uname -a: 4.9.0-4-amd64 Debian 4.9.65-3 (2017-12-03) |
| 19:00.30 | stemid | unless the package unattended-upgrades mentions something in its docs that fixes it, this is an issue that affects every release I've tried. |
| 19:00.35 | somiaj | sh0kx: no I mean once you debootstrap, just chroot into the install after the deboot strap and both install the kernel and generate the grub config from there, then it will use the chroots kernel info (not live systems). I dont really see why they have to match. |
| 19:00.58 | somiaj | stemid: Is your /boot just really small, stable kernels dont' change that often, or is it just years and years of old kernels piling up? |
| 19:01.15 | somiaj | I guess there have been 2 abi changes since stretches release, but that is only 3 kernels. |
| 19:01.18 | stemid | somiaj: not years, have you not used unattended-upgrades? you seem to be fishing for information. |
| 19:01.20 | sh0kx | somiaj: thanks, I will try this road |
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| 19:01.24 | stemid | somiaj: months is enough. |
| 19:02.01 | somiaj | stemid: Are you using backport kernels? |
| 19:02.10 | stemid | somiaj: only standard repos. |
| 19:02.37 | stemid | somiaj: what happens is quite simple, packages like kernel x.x.0-XX pile up in /boot. |
| 19:02.49 | somiaj | stemid: anyways, I don't see why unatteneded-upgrades is filling up /boot. It works fine on my systems. |
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| 19:03.45 | stemid | somiaj: so you're not getting new kernel packages piling up with different -numbers after the kernel version? |
| 19:03.51 | somiaj | stemid: I understand that, but there have only been three kernel packages in stretch since the release, 4.9.0-3-arch, 4.9.0-4-arch, and 4.9.0-5-arch. Your original idea is the best I know of though, make sure you reboot and run autoremove regurally so you don't ever have more than 3 of those kernels. |
| 19:03.54 | stemid | patchlevels I guess |
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| 19:04.46 | somiaj | that is why I asked about backports, those kernels change a lot, but in stable, I guess I don't see why they are piling up that quickly. I do agree they will pile up over time if you don't reboot, run autoremove. |
| 19:05.21 | stemid | ok thanks. |
| 19:05.24 | coruja | one can use needrestart to set reboots automatically when needed and make apt autoremove after reboot |
| 19:05.58 | stemid | awesome, I'll look at that. |
| 19:06.10 | somiaj | stemid: my systems currently have 2 or 3 kernels in /boot. And autoremove is setup by default to keep one old kernel around. YOu can change that behavior of you need. |
| 19:06.26 | somiaj | (I noticed I have a few machines I need to run autoremove on due this check) |
| 19:06.28 | stemid | somiaj: you mean by apt config? |
| 19:06.58 | somiaj | yea, there is some config setting that controls this behavior for kernels and autoremove, to ensure you have at least one kernel back for saftey |
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| 19:07.11 | somiaj | I'd have to look up where it lives though. |
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| 19:08.06 | somiaj | stemid: note these new kernel packages only change during abi changes in the kernel (such as adding the kpi extensions). Not all kernel upgrades will create a new kernel package. |
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| 19:10.53 | [Ketchup] | hi, does such a command exist to get a list of packages on a debian iso? |
| 19:11.45 | stemid | somiaj: great. you've already helped enough. |
| 19:12.21 | octet | added stretch-backports, apt installed torbrowser, and opened the launcher to Download and install it. But it just says "Installing" and isn't moving. It has been 10+mins |
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| 19:14.34 | somiaj | [Ketchup]: there are various tools like https://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD or more detailed method https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
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| 19:21.09 | user0 | I'm installing proxmox ve and there is a question i don't know what to answer : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/05204b6acf091948ce9313a52aba7057 |
| 19:22.28 | somiaj | !proxmox |
| 19:22.28 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
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| 19:31.37 | Kobaz | how would i disable a systemd shutdown script (ie: gdm) |
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| 19:34.26 | tds | user0: what's the difference between the two files? |
| 19:35.19 | user0 | one file have mistakes |
| 19:36.13 | user0 | i looked up with D then press q screen bug then CTRL + C nothin then Y + enter then it start install now i have dpkg apt problem |
| 19:36.18 | user0 | because of interupt |
| 19:37.13 | user0 | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/14a27d733e20a2087b41fb2785917c53 |
| 19:37.19 | somiaj | Kobaz: what do you mean by that, you want sytemd to start gdm but not shut it down? |
| 19:37.24 | user0 | What to do now ... ? |
| 19:37.47 | user0 | i have apt dpkg problems that's broke all my os |
| 19:38.14 | mpo | user0, have you tried 'dpkg --configure -a'? |
| 19:40.11 | sh0kx | somiaj: I am in chroot and I am configuring locales. I have done the bind for /dev, /proc and /sys and I have installed base system with debootstrap without using any include option (Debian stretch) |
| 19:40.31 | Kobaz | somiaj: yes |
| 19:40.47 | Kobaz | somiaj: ie: rm /etc/rc0.d/KXXgdm |
| 19:40.51 | sh0kx | when I try dpkg-reconfigure locales (from chroot fs) I get error saying locales is not installed |
| 19:40.54 | Kobaz | but the systemd eqivalent |
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| 19:41.08 | sh0kx | dumb question |
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| 19:41.18 | sh0kx | solved |
| 19:41.54 | Kobaz | somiaj: i dont really care if gdm fails to shut down gracefully.. the final kill -9 -1 will catch it |
| 19:42.06 | Kobaz | systemd is stuck on waiting for shutting down gdm |
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| 19:43.23 | fearnothing | hi, I'm having issues installing twisted for python3 |
| 19:43.49 | fearnothing | I get the error "x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc: error: /usr/share/dpkg/no-pie-compile.specs: No such file or directory" |
| 19:44.11 | somiaj | Kobaz: you can edit the systemd unit file with 'systemctl -e gdm', and then look up how to configure what it does when it shuts down. You would have to look up the systemd unit syntax for this. |
| 19:44.19 | fearnothing | googling says I need to install libdpkg-perl, but when I try that, I get "dpkg-dev : Breaks: debhelper (< 10.10.1~) but 9.20150101+deb8u2 is to be installed" |
| 19:44.50 | fearnothing | now what? |
| 19:44.59 | somiaj | fearnothing: sounds like you are mixing release, you need to invesgiate the broken packages further |
| 19:45.02 | somiaj | !bat |
| 19:45.02 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 19:45.10 | Kobaz | somiaj: invalid option -e |
| 19:46.23 | somiaj | Kobaz: sorry, just 'systemctl edit gdm' |
| 19:47.07 | octet | my tor installation has been like this for 30 mins: https://i.imgur.com/tzkKB78.png any ideas? |
| 19:48.00 | user0 | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f2354a5fb6ce2e91133a8949b13f6009 |
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| 19:53.00 | mpo | user0, this is not Debian |
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| 19:54.31 | fearnothing | here is the output requested somiaj: https://bpaste.net/show/5e9c9cc80d4c |
| 19:54.56 | klys | ,v pve-firewall |
| 19:56.13 | somiaj | fearnothing: there is more info the bot asked for, but I see enough there to see you are mixing jessie packages and testing packages which will break your system. |
| 19:56.50 | somiaj | fearnothing: we don't really support mixing. At this point you ahve to manually track down the dependency issues between the testing and jessie packages you have. And unforntually you can't just fully upgrade to testing because you ahve skipped the stretch release. |
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| 19:58.48 | oct2pus | Does the Lubuntu team contribute to the debian releases of lxde/lxqt? I was searching to see for gtk3 versions of pcmanfm and i found they have a bunch of files with an additional '-debian' added to it on their launchpad |
| 20:00.20 | fearnothing | great. I was having to use testing because neither jessie nor stretch had the version of the package that I needed at the time |
| 20:00.52 | fearnothing | presumably attempting to upgrade to stretch won't work either? |
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| 20:07.58 | somiaj | fearnothing: the proper way to deal with stuff like that is to backport the package to the version you are running. |
| 20:08.39 | somiaj | fearnothing: at this point I don't know what is the best advise. If you have only a few packages from testing, track them down, manually downgrade, and then look into either backporting that package. Once you downgrade to jessie you could upgrade to stretch if you wanted to. Read the release notes |
| 20:08.44 | somiaj | !partial downgrade |
| 20:08.45 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 20:09.34 | somiaj | Note, it is hard to know what artifacts could be left after doing somethign like this. Depending on how much mixing you have done, a backup/resintall is sometimes the fastest approach. |
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| 20:12.06 | CrazySophy | i am looking for chromum 64 in debian, any package? |
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| 20:17.02 | annadane | ,v chromium |
| 20:17.08 | annadane | sigh |
| 20:17.10 | annadane | judd is drunk |
| 20:17.20 | somiaj | judd is not in the channel, so judd won't be able to respond |
| 20:17.31 | annadane | 64 isn't even in sid yet |
| 20:17.44 | annadane | you can probably download from their website |
| 20:18.08 | CrazySophy | but will it get udpated? |
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| 20:18.15 | CrazySophy | or will it stay forever in 63 in stretch? |
| 20:18.32 | somiaj | CrazySophy: it only gets updated in stretch when tehre are known security holes that the newer versions fix. |
| 20:18.44 | somiaj | CrazySophy: stretch should be frozen, but browsers are an exception. |
| 20:19.02 | somiaj | The alternative is just get google-chrome from google. |
| 20:21.58 | CrazySophy | somiaj: i heard chromium 64 (and chrome too) have spectre bugfxes |
| 20:22.54 | annadane | i want to say if you put it in /opt or something then you'll get updates from upstream, but i'm not certain |
| 20:24.24 | somiaj | CrazySophy: then they will make their way into stable. It does take a little bit of work, and usually they hit multiple issues at once to limit the upgrades in stretch. |
| 20:24.44 | CrazySophy | just a other question, does debian update everything with security updates? |
| 20:26.39 | somiaj | stable is a frozen system which means the only updates that should come into it are security and grave bug fixes. Security fixes come when they are ready through security sources, and the rest come through point releases. |
| 20:27.13 | somiaj | The browsers just have so many problems, that debian security cannot backport fixes to the frozen version, and thus has to supply newer versions as the 'fix' |
| 20:28.03 | CrazySophy | what with the browser engines like webkit? |
| 20:28.19 | somiaj | debian secrutiy provides no support for webkit and webkit based browsers. |
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| 20:29.19 | CrazySophy | ok the browser are unsecure, fine. |
| 20:30.36 | somiaj | Stretch will eventually get the newer chromium, browsers have that many CVEs to deal with. |
| 20:31.13 | CrazySophy | i see, web browsers in debian are unsecure then |
| 20:31.50 | CrazySophy | https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#browser-security |
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| 20:32.24 | somiaj | Chromium and firefox get full security support, If you look at the history of DSA's you'll see these addressed quite often. And yes, all other browsers do not recive security support. |
| 20:32.46 | CrazySophy | browser updates are useless if the engines never gets updated |
| 20:33.05 | somiaj | did you read that, 'Chromium - while built upon the Webkit codebase - is a leaf package, which will be kept up-to-date by rebuilding the current Chromium releases for stable." |
| 20:33.24 | CrazySophy | i dont understand this line completely. |
| 20:33.52 | somiaj | in short chromium has webkit built into its sources (it doesn't link to webkit), which means it gets security support. |
| 20:34.26 | CrazySophy | ok, cool, and for firefox? |
| 20:34.39 | CrazySophy | how can i check if i have webkit installed as seperate package? |
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| 20:35.24 | somiaj | firefox-esr is kept uptodate in the same way as chromium to provide security support. The packages dont' hit as soon as the upstream releases, but they do upgrade quite often in relation to address the security issues (not new version issues). |
| 20:35.29 | somiaj | CrazySophy: dpkg -l | grep webkit |
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| 20:35.57 | CrazySophy | a friend told me debian is very unsecure because they don't update the other browser, but using google told me there even arent any updates on the upstream websites, last updates are from 2012 or 2011. its not debians fault, right? |
| 20:36.58 | somiaj | CrazySophy: Althought many desktop pieces might link with webkit, they don't connect to the outside by default. |
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| 20:37.26 | CrazySophy | libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 is webkit, right? |
| 20:37.45 | somiaj | If someone is using a webkit based browser to browse the internet, then yes that would be less secure than using chromium or firefox, but the internals of debian are not connecting to the web using webkit browsers. |
| 20:37.59 | somiaj | so having webkit installed desont' mean your system is insecure. |
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| 20:38.36 | CrazySophy | sounds like its only insecure when the bad is on my computer and not remote |
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| 20:39.24 | somiaj | a lot of secuirity is how the user uses the system. But I would not consider debian more insecure than other distros because the security team doesn't update webkit CVE issues. |
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| 20:39.36 | CrazySophy | so firefox-esr and chromium has webkit compiled in and since the browser are getting updates i am secure? |
| 20:39.40 | sh0kx | I am configuring GRUB to effectively load everything correctly. My setup is an USB stick with two partition: sdb1 with ESP /boot/efi and sdb2 with a LUCKS container /boot |
| 20:40.18 | somiaj | CrazySophy: as secure as one can be. Firefox and chormium are fully supported by debian security. |
| 20:40.32 | CrazySophy | is webkit compiled in? |
| 20:40.56 | CrazySophy | you say its seperated |
| 20:40.58 | sh0kx | and an hard drive with one partition, which is an LVM on LUKS at /dev/sdc1 where / root is |
| 20:41.19 | sh0kx | so basically wither the /boot and / are encrypted |
| 20:42.25 | sh0kx | I have mounted the EFI partition in /mnt/boot/efi, the boot in /mnt/boot and the root on /mnt/ . Then I chrooted inside with all /dev etc. |
| 20:43.10 | CrazySophy | somiaj: thank you for answering my questions and helping me. i hope chromium 64 will be in stretch soon. thank you! |
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| 20:43.59 | sh0kx | With this configuration I will install GRUB on /boot/efi, correct? |
| 20:45.34 | sh0kx | I have configured GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y and GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=lvm |
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| 20:46.03 | sh0kx | will I need something else to make it work? |
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| 21:03.46 | sh0kx | whn I try to run: grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub --recheck |
| 21:04.52 | sh0kx | it gives me an error "/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exit. Please specify --target or --directory' |
| 21:04.59 | sh0kx | why? |
| 21:05.23 | sh0kx | I have mounted correctly the EFI partition on /boot/efi and is FAT32 |
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| 21:17.38 | kidnextdoor | hi people |
| 21:17.48 | vktec | How can I list the installed reverse dependencies of a package? |
| 21:18.07 | vktec | ie. the ones that will get automatically uninstalled if I apt uninstall it |
| 21:18.27 | kidnextdoor | can anyone tell me if i install gcc in debian amd64 the compiler is also 64bit? |
| 21:20.09 | annadane | vktec, apt rdepends foo |
| 21:20.33 | vktec | annadane: If I'm not mistaken, that shows uninstalled reverse dependencies too |
| 21:20.39 | Howie69 | kidnextdoor: what do you mean? The compiler itself? |
| 21:21.01 | Howie69 | kidnextdoor: If you're on a amd64 machine, you have a 64 bit gcc |
| 21:21.02 | kidnextdoor | yes, i want to build 64 bits programs |
| 21:21.19 | kidnextdoor | ok ok thank you |
| 21:21.40 | kidnextdoor | is there any minimal gcc install or i should install build-essentials? |
| 21:21.45 | Howie69 | kidnextdoor: The Makefile handles that usually. You can compile to whatever processor you want. It's called cross compiling, but by default it compiles for the system you are on |
| 21:21.58 | Howie69 | build-essentials |
| 21:22.05 | kidnextdoor | im using an IDE |
| 21:22.12 | kidnextdoor | that already do that for me |
| 21:22.30 | Howie69 | Which IDE? Most just call gcc to do it for them anyway |
| 21:22.36 | kidnextdoor | so there no minimal gcc install? |
| 21:22.47 | Howie69 | you CAN just install gcc |
| 21:22.54 | Howie69 | but then you need a linker |
| 21:22.58 | kidnextdoor | yeah, thats the point of IDE, save time |
| 21:23.04 | kidnextdoor | im using codeblocks |
| 21:23.15 | kidnextdoor | ok ok thank you |
| 21:23.17 | Howie69 | So, the IDE should call everything in the background |
| 21:23.22 | kidnextdoor | apt-get install build-essentials |
| 21:23.30 | Howie69 | so you'd usually need the essentials package |
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| 21:23.32 | Howie69 | yes |
| 21:24.33 | kidnextdoor | Unable to locate package build-essentials |
| 21:24.40 | kidnextdoor | WTF?????? |
| 21:24.43 | kidnextdoor | lol :D |
| 21:24.57 | Howie69 | sudo apt-get update |
| 21:25.11 | Howie69 | or apt-get update if you're root |
| 21:25.27 | vktec | It's build-essential |
| 21:25.45 | vktec | Not essentials |
| 21:26.01 | kidnextdoor | got it got it thank you |
| 21:26.11 | Howie69 | I think I've actually made that mistake on every single debian server I've ever built |
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| 21:26.53 | kidnextdoor | talking about servers, whats the best choice if i decide to have a debian server? |
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| 21:30.04 | vktec | Best choice of what? |
| 21:30.29 | oct2pus | like provider? |
| 21:30.52 | oct2pus | pick your poison if you want a dedicated box, a virtual private server, or a 'cloud' server |
| 21:31.38 | oct2pus | i know digitial ocean is popular for cloud stuff, i use tragicservers for my personal VPS running debian stretch on OpenVZ |
| 21:32.01 | oct2pus | there are some problems ive noted which i assume is caused by the really old kernel version on OpenVZ |
| 21:35.07 | somiaj | sh0kx: you installed the grub-efi package for efi correct? Also pay attention to both grub-install and update-grub (they do different things) |
| 21:35.23 | kidnextdoor | do i have to share my code if i build a program in debian? |
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| 21:36.25 | somiaj | kidnextdoor: that can depend. But in general building a program in debian does not bind that code to the DSFG. If you use/base your code off of software in debian, you are bound to what ever license comes with that software. |
| 21:37.03 | sh0kx | somiaj: THANKS ! |
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| 21:37.29 | kidnextdoor | im building all code myself, i pretend to use the program as a comercial product |
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| 21:37.50 | somiaj | kidnextdoor: Note linking to libaries is different than use their code base in your program, as well. |
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| 21:37.56 | sh0kx | somiaj: now I am able to install it correctly |
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| 21:38.53 | kidnextdoor | ok i got my first c++ program built, it seems is a 64 bit application indeed, now, how do i open shared libraries files? |
| 21:39.16 | kidnextdoor | how do i change the filetype? |
| 21:39.41 | somiaj | a c++ channel would be helpful for those types of details. I don't know c, so can't say too much. |
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| 21:39.56 | kidnextdoor | ok thank you |
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| 22:42.01 | jhutchins | Definitely ditching icinga and going back to Nagios, possibly with check-mk. |
| 22:43.26 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: For most of the OS licenses, if you _distribute_ your program to other people, you are required to make the source code available to them under similar terms. |
| 22:44.04 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: That's just if you use the OS code though, if you use the OS tools to build entirely new code you can do whatever you want with it. |
| 22:44.14 | kidnextdoor | just by using devian i have to open source? |
| 22:44.26 | kidnextdoor | ah |
| 22:44.37 | kidnextdoor | i dont plan to use any code from the OS |
| 22:44.49 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: Only if you include Debian libraries or anything else that comes from Debian, and only if you distribute it. |
| 22:45.20 | kidnextdoor | ok thank you |
| 22:45.48 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: That's just an amateur explanation, not a legal opinion. If you're doing anything commercial, be sure to get real professional advice. |
| 22:46.48 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: You mention shared libraries - if they're Linux libraries then you're using OS code. |
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| 22:47.43 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: Most of us here think OS is a good idea and makes your code better and safer. You get free QC from a larger team. |
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| 22:48.18 | kidnextdoor | dude, i jsut create the hello world c++ first program |
| 22:48.26 | kidnextdoor | i build it and the type is shared library |
| 22:49.16 | judd | Stop stressing, I'm back |
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| 22:52.52 | jhutchins | , botsnack |
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| 22:53.03 | jhutchins | No snacks for judd. |
| 22:53.44 | jhutchins | kidnextdoor: When it comes to programming I can help with your COBOL punch cards. |
| 22:55.31 | annadane | judd: you're fired |
| 22:56.14 | judd | sobs in the corner |
| 22:56.59 | kidnextdoor | ok i dont know how to run my own program in linux |
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| 22:57.29 | kidnextdoor | sorry wrong channel |
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| 23:19.16 | fearnothing | does anyone in here have enough knowledge about libguestfs to help troubleshoot an issue? |
| 23:19.38 | fearnothing | specifically: |
| 23:19.39 | fearnothing | qemu-system-x86_64: error: failed to set MSR 0x38d to 0x0 |
| 23:19.39 | fearnothing | qemu-system-x86_64: /build/qemu-v8TF72/qemu-2.11+dfsg/target/i386/kvm.c:1791: kvm_put_msrs: Assertion `ret == cpu->kvm_msr_buf->nmsrs' failed. |
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| 23:42.16 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Might try #qemu |
| 23:42.37 | jhutchins | Crap, nagios is dropped in stretch. |
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| 23:42.49 | jhutchins | Icinga isn't ready for public use. |
| 23:44.02 | babilen | huh? |
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| 23:49.40 | DanteD | I accidentally removed some packages with 'apt-get remove --purge packagename', how can I add them back? |
| 23:50.07 | DanteD | For example KDE plasma desktop doesn't work anymore correctly |
| 23:50.21 | DanteD | I tried apt-get upgrade but it doesn't re-add any of those packages |
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| 23:51.38 | JackK | apt-get install packagename |
| 23:51.47 | DanteD | I've no idea what those packages were |
| 23:52.04 | DanteD | It was like 20-50 packages before I managed to shutdown the system and halt the process of mass-uninstalling |
| 23:52.45 | JackK | uffda. |
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| 23:53.30 | JackK | Try these for plasma: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/kde-plasma-desktop |
| 23:53.50 | babilen | DanteD: You can also look at /var/log/apt/history.log* |
| 23:54.00 | babilen | dpkg: install kde |
| 23:54.00 | dpkg | The 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose "KDE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then "Continue". |
| 23:55.25 | DanteD | babilen: yeah, I think there is a list there |
| 23:55.28 | DanteD | thx |
| 23:58.21 | annadane | "kde 4" |
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