| 00:00.06 | *** join/#debian dth3kid (~dth3kid@192.241.208.189) |
| 00:00.32 | *** join/#debian weez17 (~isaac@unaffiliated/weez17) |
| 00:00.55 | *** join/#debian aphotica (~aphotica@2605:6000:3b84:7000:d5b8:f908:bd2a:aa21) |
| 00:01.06 | *** join/#debian LeandroLuiz (~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz) |
| 00:03.08 | mpo | Guys, quick, where do I get the /etc/cgconfig.conf from? |
| 00:04.30 | mpo | Got it |
| 00:06.04 | *** join/#debian lessless (~lessless@115.74.38.129) |
| 00:06.45 | *** join/#debian SKiTZO (~lennart@178.90-149-240.nextgentel.com) |
| 00:07.23 | SKiTZO | I am making my first .deb package for my software. I am strugling with how to arrive at a sane list of dependencies |
| 00:08.05 | dth3kid | anyone have great success running debian on a mac mini? I know it should run, just wondering if there are any pitfalls I should be aware of. |
| 00:08.05 | SKiTZO | I have used the output of objdump to figure out what libs are referenced from my executable, but how do I translate that into actual package names without manually going over each and every one? The list is substantial |
| 00:08.41 | *** join/#debian _raven_ (~raven@p5796FCBA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:10.48 | *** join/#debian w00dsman (~w00dsman@pool-173-48-144-90.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:12.06 | aypea[3] | SKiTZO: iter over it and use dpkg -S to see which packages have them. |
| 00:15.22 | *** join/#debian Halcy0n (~Halcy0n@47-208-58-73.erkacmtk02.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 00:16.21 | SKiTZO | aypea[3], tx I was trying to use apt-file search but that wasn't right |
| 00:18.22 | aypea[3] | SKiTZO: that'll work, too but if you've got them installed, dpkg -S is a lot faster :) |
| 00:20.38 | *** join/#debian _aeris_ (~aeris@april/board/aeris) |
| 00:20.38 | SKiTZO | aypea[3], so I will have to vet this one by one no matter what |
| 00:21.21 | *** part/#debian dth3kid (~dth3kid@192.241.208.189) |
| 00:21.23 | SKiTZO | any shortcuts or tips? any dependencies I don't need to mention because they are part of base install? |
| 00:22.07 | aypea[3] | SKiTZO: maybe. it may not be the best soltuion but it's one I know of. a for loop (or a while loop) will save you a lot of hassle. |
| 00:22.17 | aypea[3] | anything marked essential doesn't need to go in afaik |
| 00:25.21 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:25.47 | *** join/#debian Logg (~Logg@76.72.182.219) |
| 00:29.06 | *** join/#debian hamersaw (~hamersaw@c-67-174-120-231.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:33.11 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:49.03 | *** join/#debian crn (~crn@108.226.33.225) |
| 00:52.58 | *** join/#debian xqb (~xqb@gateway/tor-sasl/xqb) |
| 00:53.55 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 00:54.20 | *** join/#debian e14_ (~e14@2601:184:4180:da74:2c90:def7:2f1f:2e55) |
| 00:57.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1490] by debhelper |
| 00:57.32 | *** join/#debian astrofog (~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog) |
| 01:02.34 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 01:04.54 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@pC19F2ADB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:12.11 | *** join/#debian iresf (55efd85c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.85.239.216.92) |
| 01:12.25 | iresf | hi everyone i need your help |
| 01:13.26 | mutante | !ask |
| 01:13.27 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 01:14.25 | iresf | i have installed debian 9 on my laptop with radeon R5 graphic card and with KDE desktop but kwin_x11 use 100 % cpu |
| 01:18.03 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 01:18.03 | *** topic/#debian is Debian Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.3 ; /msg dpkg jessie->stretch; /msg dpkg install stretch | Oldstable: Debian Jessie /msg dpkg jessie ; /msg dpkg 8.10 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing, unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 01:18.07 | geri | Sveta: its that? |
| 01:18.12 | *** join/#debian dixie7z_ (~dixie7z@93-142-153-201.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 01:18.25 | Sveta | yup! |
| 01:18.32 | geri | cd /media/sf_input/ bash: cd: /media/sf_input/: Permission denied |
| 01:18.34 | geri | hm |
| 01:18.42 | *** join/#debian DocHopper (~DocHopper@unaffiliated/dochopper) |
| 01:18.46 | geri | the folder is read only |
| 01:18.51 | geri | but why permission denied? |
| 01:19.33 | Sveta | it's probably a vbox thing not that shared folder, maybe it does not need to mount the dir that is shared |
| 01:20.00 | geri | drwxrwx--- 1 root vboxsf |
| 01:20.27 | geri | i try: sudo usermod -aG vboxsf $(whoami) |
| 01:21.05 | mutante | geri: you may have to logout and login to get new group membership |
| 01:21.22 | mutante | then i'd try the "id" command to verify if user is in groups |
| 01:22.10 | *** join/#debian Scuttle (~Scuttle@h-23-116.A230.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 01:22.26 | geri | sudo usermod -aG vboxsf $(whoami) sudo: unable to resolve host test-box |
| 01:22.27 | geri | hm |
| 01:22.31 | geri | what does that mean? |
| 01:22.46 | Sveta | if i were there i would say that more context is needed |
| 01:23.28 | Sveta | wheres the folder, on the host or on the guest? |
| 01:23.38 | geri | host (osx) |
| 01:23.54 | geri | and i want to read filed/folders from within vm (debian) |
| 01:23.56 | Sveta | how are you sharing it? |
| 01:23.57 | geri | files |
| 01:24.13 | geri | virutal box has the option to add a shared folder |
| 01:24.32 | mutante | "unable to resolve host test-box" sounds like hostname and/or DNS is messed up |
| 01:24.39 | mutante | which affects sudo |
| 01:24.39 | geri | hm |
| 01:24.47 | geri | test-box is the hostname of the box |
| 01:24.50 | geri | i changed it before |
| 01:25.14 | mutante | geri: what about "hostname -f" vs "hostname -s" |
| 01:25.17 | *** join/#debian iresf (55efd85c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.85.239.216.92) |
| 01:25.38 | mutante | geri: and can you do "host hostname" where you replace hostname with the actual hostname, short and long version |
| 01:25.42 | geri | both say: hostname: Name or service not known |
| 01:25.56 | mutante | eh.. wut :) |
| 01:26.31 | geri | $ host hostname Host hostname not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 01:26.31 | mutante | /bin/hostname --help |
| 01:26.53 | mutante | geri: how did you change the host name? |
| 01:27.31 | tds | if you just changed it in /etc/hostname, you probably also want to update the records in /etc/hosts that point to localhost |
| 01:27.54 | geri | hostname test-box |
| 01:28.19 | tds | that will only change it until you next reboot, you need to edit /etc/hostname to make it permanent |
| 01:28.25 | geri | and its also in /etc/hostname |
| 01:28.31 | mutante | then why is the hostname command not working now? |
| 01:28.37 | tds | ah, cool, then you probably just need to update /etc/hosts |
| 01:28.39 | geri | the content is: test-box |
| 01:29.02 | geri | in /etc/hosts i see localhos |
| 01:29.03 | geri | t |
| 01:29.08 | geri | but not my actual hostname |
| 01:29.22 | geri | 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 debian-VirtualBox |
| 01:29.26 | geri | thats in here so far |
| 01:29.31 | tds | Ah, was debian-VirtualBox the old hostname? |
| 01:29.40 | geri | i think so. dont remember |
| 01:29.46 | mutante | update that name there to the new name |
| 01:29.52 | tds | Just change debian-VirtualBox to test-box |
| 01:30.23 | tds | (or if you really want to, add an A/AAAA record in your search domain for it) |
| 01:31.14 | mutante | fixing the host name issue should also fix the sudo issues :) |
| 01:31.17 | geri | intersting. |
| 01:31.19 | geri | $ sudo usermod -aG vboxsf $(whoami) |
| 01:31.23 | geri | that thing worked now |
| 01:31.58 | mutante | type "id" |
| 01:32.05 | mutante | and you should see all your groups |
| 01:32.40 | geri | cool can access shared folder now :D |
| 01:32.49 | mutante | ;) |
| 01:32.55 | geri | who is sudo related to hostname? |
| 01:33.02 | geri | how |
| 01:33.14 | mutante | each sudo command has a format like user@host command |
| 01:33.20 | mutante | so it needs to lookup which host it is on |
| 01:33.32 | geri | why u need to have host here? |
| 01:34.19 | mutante | because you may want to limit the ability to run certain commands to a specific host |
| 01:34.39 | mutante | let's say you have user A and hosts X and Y, maybe you want to let him restart Apache on X but not Y |
| 01:34.57 | geri | rootfs 79177624 64893140 10262468 87% / |
| 01:35.03 | geri | does it mean i use 87 of disk? |
| 01:35.07 | mutante | sudo privileges can be very finetuned. just most people only use "ALL ALL" |
| 01:36.24 | mutante | geri: if that is output from "df", yes |
| 01:36.27 | *** join/#debian e14 (~e14@2601:184:4180:da74:2c90:def7:2f1f:2e55) |
| 01:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1483] by debhelper |
| 01:38.10 | *** join/#debian finlstrm (~quassel@ip70-188-141-213.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 01:40.27 | *** part/#debian vvor (~vvor@bzq-109-67-90-25.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 01:40.43 | geri | mutante: ok delted some stuff |
| 01:41.23 | geri | what is udev and tmpfs? |
| 01:41.38 | geri | mounted to /dev and /run |
| 01:41.52 | somiaj | tmpfs is a file system in your memory, inteneded to be a tempary file system |
| 01:42.15 | somiaj | udev is the (now systemd) tool that dynamically adds and removes devices and their nodes from /dev |
| 01:42.18 | geri | to share memory accross apps? |
| 01:42.23 | somiaj | no, for speed |
| 01:42.53 | somiaj | it is a file system just like any other, but it intended for files that only need to be around while the system is running, once you shut the systemdown all data in a tmpfs file system is lost. |
| 01:42.55 | geri | like a filesystem but just for apps |
| 01:43.24 | Sveta | hi! i have problems with a website. its cgi script runs into permissions issues creating a file. yet `sudo su -c 'touch /path/to/the/file' www-data` says www-data is unavailable. what can i possibly do now to troubleshoot the issue? |
| 01:43.25 | geri | stack or heap? |
| 01:43.59 | somiaj | Sveta: sudo su -s /bin/bash -- www-data |
| 01:44.02 | *** join/#debian thinkpad (~thinkpad@bb116-14-129-42.singnet.com.sg) |
| 01:44.03 | somiaj | Sveta: manually set the shell to use |
| 01:44.10 | *** join/#debian setuid (sid191390@canonical/setuid) |
| 01:44.19 | somiaj | geri: unsure, don't know the details of the underlying thing that much. |
| 01:45.00 | somiaj | but in general tmpfs is a file system that lives in the systems ram, not on a perminate medium like a hardrive, etc. |
| 01:45.14 | geri | sure |
| 01:45.17 | geri | thanks |
| 01:45.58 | Sveta | somiaj: ok thanks |
| 01:46.23 | somiaj | Sveta: I also should have only had one dash, not two in teh su -s /bin/bash - www-data line |
| 01:46.38 | setuid | Any 'curtin' wizards about? :) |
| 01:46.50 | Sveta | somiaj: ok thanks |
| 01:48.43 | *** join/#debian Wammy (446fa9d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.111.169.211) |
| 01:49.07 | *** join/#debian ryouma (~user@unaffiliated/ryouma) |
| 01:49.37 | *** join/#debian e14 (~e14@2601:184:4180:da74:2c90:def7:2f1f:2e55) |
| 01:50.26 | Wammy | Hope I can get some help, I've been searching for some time and I haven't found anything concrete. I just 'apt-get dist-upgrade'd on one of my servers and grub started complaining: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warning: the device.map entry `hd0,msdos1' is invalid. Ignoring it. Please correct or delete your device.map. |
| 01:51.07 | Wammy | device.map has two entries, the one it says is invalid is: (hd0,msdos1) /dev/mapper/vda1 |
| 01:51.17 | Wammy | checked the path and it doesnt exist /dev/mapper/vda1 |
| 01:51.45 | aypea[3] | try running grub-mkdevicemap |
| 01:51.47 | Wammy | I ran grub-mkdevicemap and now I only have 1 entry on there for (hd0) |
| 01:52.31 | Wammy | problem is grub-mkconfig/update-grub are creating grub.cfg referencing the old (hd0,msdos1) device |
| 01:52.41 | Wammy | and of course, at this state it doesn't boot |
| 01:53.13 | Wammy | tried with grub-emu and it fails to boot |
| 01:53.28 | Wammy | this is on jessie |
| 01:53.56 | aypea[3] | odd |
| 01:54.23 | *** part/#debian setuid (sid191390@canonical/setuid) |
| 01:54.27 | aypea[3] | grep around for msdos1 ? |
| 01:55.22 | Wammy | grep on what? |
| 01:55.30 | aypea[3] | grep msdos1 /etc -r |
| 01:55.35 | aypea[3] | grep msdos1 /boot -r |
| 01:56.34 | Sveta | somiaj: http://dpaste.com/1NHE317.txt where precisely is the problem and how do i fix it? |
| 01:56.43 | Wammy | only stuff that comes up is from /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 01:56.54 | aypea[3] | nothing in /etc ? |
| 01:57.06 | Sveta | somiaj: set the 'group' permission but on all these folders to 'www-data' or what? the docs entirely skip the permissions discussion |
| 01:57.28 | Wammy | I just tried dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc (basically just went through it) and I am getting this: |
| 01:57.40 | Wammy | aypea[3]: nope |
| 01:57.54 | Wammy | grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. |
| 01:58.15 | aypea[3] | you're using ext2? |
| 01:58.26 | Wammy | not as far as I know |
| 01:58.47 | somiaj | Sveta: I don't quite follow what your actual isue is. Could it be the lockfile is a deadlink or something? |
| 01:58.52 | *** join/#debian pk12 (~pk12@199.241.146.163) |
| 01:59.06 | aypea[3] | wammy: do a file -Ls on the device that holds /bopot |
| 01:59.06 | Sveta | somiaj: the website is trying to create the lockfile |
| 01:59.09 | aypea[3] | wammy: do a file -Ls on the device that holds /boot |
| 01:59.58 | Wammy | as in file -Ls /dev/sda ? |
| 01:59.59 | Sveta | somiaj: for some god knows what reason the site install instructions suggested installing its settings in ~, so now I am tasked with setting up adequate permissions for the webserver to be able to write into that directory |
| 02:00.00 | somiaj | Sveta: well the information you showed, the only user who can write to that directory is sveta, if some other use is trying to write it won't work. Seeting the group to www-data should work to give the webuser access to write there. |
| 02:00.03 | Wammy | says command not found |
| 02:00.09 | Sveta | somiaj: ok |
| 02:00.16 | aypea[3] | Wammy: erm. install file? :) |
| 02:00.30 | aypea[3] | Wammy: and no. the actual partition/lv device |
| 02:00.36 | Wammy | wtf |
| 02:00.42 | Wammy | says can't get dpkg lock |
| 02:00.58 | aypea[3] | interesting. is there a dpkg or apt running still? |
| 02:01.16 | Wammy | might have been, tried again and it went through |
| 02:01.32 | Sveta | somiaj: http://dpaste.com/2AX4S3T.txt still the same problem |
| 02:01.34 | aypea[3] | are you the only one on the box? :) |
| 02:01.43 | Wammy | yes |
| 02:02.04 | Wammy | file -Ls /dev/sda1 /dev/sda1: DOS/MBR boot sector |
| 02:02.20 | aypea[3] | err |
| 02:02.24 | somiaj | Sveta: I would have just changed the group not the user. But I still don't quite see what is going on, so I'm mostly guessing. |
| 02:02.26 | aypea[3] | and that's where /boot is? |
| 02:02.39 | Wammy | appears so |
| 02:02.45 | Wammy | there is only / |
| 02:02.48 | Sveta | somiaj: ok |
| 02:02.53 | aypea[3] | df /boot says which device? |
| 02:02.55 | Wammy | ./dev/sda1 -> / |
| 02:03.17 | Wammy | same, /dev/sda1 |
| 02:03.28 | Sveta | somiaj: did that, still the same problem |
| 02:03.45 | aypea[3] | ah. I use gpt. been a fairly long while since I delt with mbr |
| 02:04.20 | Wammy | :-/ |
| 02:04.41 | Wammy | why would the config still be referncing hd0,msdos1 ? |
| 02:04.43 | Sveta | somiaj: "su -s /bin/bash - www-data" asks for a password, i don't know www-data's password |
| 02:04.44 | aypea[3] | but that shouldn't be on sda1 afaicr. that should be on sda |
| 02:04.46 | *** join/#debian aielima (~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima) |
| 02:04.56 | aypea[3] | maybe it's confused by that |
| 02:05.09 | somiaj | Sveta: it will only ask for a password if you don't run it as root |
| 02:05.11 | Sveta | somiaj: ignore that, i typoed something |
| 02:05.18 | Sveta | somiaj: yes, thanks |
| 02:05.29 | aypea[3] | what does /dev/sda give you? |
| 02:05.37 | Wammy | aypea[3]: I've never had an issue with this setup. |
| 02:05.45 | Wammy | honestly I think its the default install. |
| 02:06.07 | Wammy | file -Ls /dev/sda /dev/sda: DOS/MBR boot sector |
| 02:06.08 | Wammy | ? |
| 02:06.41 | aypea[3] | that'd be what gets you booting I think. |
| 02:06.56 | aypea[3] | sda1 might be from a distant error that was ignored until now |
| 02:07.47 | Wammy | when I attempt with grub-emu, I get: error: can't find command `linux'. |
| 02:07.52 | Wammy | same for initrd |
| 02:08.24 | aypea[3] | dpkg -l | grep grub gives you what? and is lilo still installed? |
| 02:08.24 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep grub gives you what? and is lilo still installed |
| 02:08.45 | *** part/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:09.52 | Wammy | aypea[3]: grub-common,emu,pc,pc-bin, grub2-common |
| 02:10.35 | Wammy | should there be a grub-2common? |
| 02:10.42 | somiaj | have you checked that your lvm is correctly setup, it is actilng like there hsould be another memeober of your lvm -- but I don't know lvms that well, just seems you are looking at grub more than the lvm (or did I totally miss something)? |
| 02:10.43 | Wammy | grub2-common rather |
| 02:10.46 | aypea[3] | yes |
| 02:10.57 | *** join/#debian knidos (~knidos@78.165.215.23) |
| 02:11.33 | Wammy | somiaj: that might be possible, but I've no clue how to check? |
| 02:11.52 | somiaj | Wammy: I don't use lvm, so I have no experience with it. I just use plain old partition tables. |
| 02:12.13 | somiaj | but it seems the issue is more with your lvm than grub, grub is just complaing about it. Now I don't know what the actual issue is though. |
| 02:12.50 | Wammy | how would I verify if this has LVM? |
| 02:13.15 | Wammy | this is supposed to be the jessie image (I am on GCP, VM) |
| 02:13.27 | aypea[3] | wammy: what does grub-probe --target=fs --device=/dev/sda1 tell you? |
| 02:13.50 | Wammy | grub-probe: option '--device' doesn't allow an argument |
| 02:14.18 | Wammy | added a space/removed the = |
| 02:14.20 | Wammy | says ext2 |
| 02:14.30 | aypea[3] | ok. same and I use ext4 |
| 02:14.44 | Wammy | df -T says ext4 tho |
| 02:15.28 | aypea[3] | dunno. kinda at a loss. only thing I can really think of is that result from file on /dev/sda1 should not be the same as for /dev/sda |
| 02:15.46 | Wammy | ./dev/sda says unknown filesystem |
| 02:15.52 | aypea[3] | as it should |
| 02:16.00 | aypea[3] | err what does? grub-probe? |
| 02:16.04 | Wammy | yes |
| 02:16.04 | *** join/#debian pk12 (~pk12@199.241.146.163) |
| 02:16.10 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-19-108.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 02:16.10 | aypea[3] | yeah that's fair |
| 02:16.43 | Wammy | wonder if I need to check the fs |
| 02:16.45 | Wammy | ? |
| 02:17.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1476] by debhelper |
| 02:17.34 | somiaj | Wammy: oh nevermind, this is part of grub. Sorry for the noise. what does 'update-grub'? |
| 02:18.31 | Wammy | update-grub says everything is fine |
| 02:18.46 | Wammy | finds 3 images |
| 02:18.48 | somiaj | how about blkid? |
| 02:19.04 | Wammy | 3.16.0-5, 3.16.0-4, 3.2.0-4 |
| 02:19.11 | somiaj | dose it for somereason also list this extra device? |
| 02:19.24 | Wammy | ./dev/sda1: UUID="3485938b-1fb5-48d5-b991-1697aa42e079" TYPE="ext4" PTTYPE="dos" PARTUUID="000f2d84-01" |
| 02:20.14 | Wammy | ^ result of blkid |
| 02:20.23 | somiaj | Wammy: I'm just catching up on what you have done, sorry if this is repeate. When you did dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, what did you choose as the device to isntall grub on? |
| 02:20.35 | Wammy | I left what was selected before |
| 02:20.46 | Wammy | ./dev/sda and /dev/sda1 |
| 02:21.44 | somiaj | the first is usually where you want to install grub. |
| 02:21.53 | Wammy | yup. |
| 02:22.12 | Wammy | I understand that. just wanted to see if that re-configured whatever is off |
| 02:22.22 | somiaj | I do have the random thought of using something like this https://robert.penz.name/221/mini-howto-restore-windows-mbrbootloader-with-linux/ to restore the mbr of /dev/sda to the stndard windows mbr and then reinstall grub on it. |
| 02:22.23 | Wammy | I can go through again and just select /dev/sda |
| 02:23.05 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@183.6.186.250) |
| 02:24.24 | Wammy | so basically run that, then reconfigure grub? |
| 02:26.40 | somiaj | You should be able to just run 'grub-install /dev/sda' and not need to have debconf do that. And after you ran update-grub that last time you are still getting this partition (hd0,msdos1), despite it not being in device.map anymore? |
| 02:27.49 | Wammy | would I still need to restore the windows mbr before running grub-install again? |
| 02:28.18 | Wammy | just tried, grub-install... update-grub, grub.cfg still has set root (hd0,msdos1) |
| 02:28.37 | Wammy | I can try with install-mbr first if you think that'll give a different result |
| 02:29.03 | aypea[3] | when you ran grub-install, what arg did you give it? |
| 02:29.16 | Wammy | grub-install /dev/sda |
| 02:29.30 | aypea[3] | cos I just realised that means first hardrive, first msdos partition, which is correct for you |
| 02:29.40 | Wammy | ok |
| 02:29.46 | Wammy | grub-emu fails to 'boot' |
| 02:29.49 | Wammy | :-/ |
| 02:29.54 | Wammy | or is my device map incorrect? |
| 02:29.55 | somiaj | Wammy: the mbr thing will only fix any issues with 'grub-install /dev/sda', as to why you have this extra device, that is another issue. |
| 02:30.23 | somiaj | s/will/could/ |
| 02:30.46 | Wammy | grub-mkdevicemap only creates 1 device (hd0) |
| 02:31.22 | Wammy | which is mapped to /dev/disk/by-id/..... |
| 02:31.36 | aypea[3] | yup. but (hd0,msdos1) is a partition not a device specification |
| 02:31.50 | Wammy | ok |
| 02:32.25 | somiaj | and provided your device.map has (hd0) correctly in it, it means that (hd0,msdos1) is the first partition, so if the device map points to /dev/sda, then /dev/sda1 is (hd0,msdos1) |
| 02:32.38 | Wammy | makes sense. |
| 02:33.10 | *** join/#debian DalekSec (unit193@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.unit193) |
| 02:33.52 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 02:34.36 | Wammy | I wonder if this is correct now. |
| 02:34.58 | Wammy | I've been testing with grub-emu, seems the errors I am seeing are by design (linux not found, initrd not found) |
| 02:35.03 | Wammy | the menu shows up correctly |
| 02:35.15 | Wammy | this is a remote vm so I can't just reboot to test. lol |
| 02:35.23 | Wammy | if it doesn't come up It'll be a giant pain |
| 02:35.49 | Wammy | is there any way to verify this is all correct before rebooting? |
| 02:36.31 | somiaj | I am unsure on that. But yea it does seem stuff looks mostly correct, but I don't want to verify it for ya. |
| 02:37.21 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-143-226.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 02:37.27 | Wammy | grub.cfg and device.map for another similar system looks the same |
| 02:37.35 | Wammy | I'm gonna reboot it |
| 02:37.37 | Wammy | lol |
| 02:37.40 | Wammy | wish me luck |
| 02:38.04 | *** join/#debian wpostma (~wpostma@d142-179-76-173.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 02:40.02 | Wammy | somiaj: looks like it came back online.... |
| 02:40.59 | somiaj | well that is a good sign |
| 02:41.18 | aypea[3] | things returning from the great beyond is a good thing :) |
| 02:42.21 | Wammy | thanks for the help guys |
| 02:42.26 | Wammy | much appreciated |
| 02:43.13 | Sveta | i'd like all files within a particular directory to belong to a particular group, and be writable (and directories executable) by that group. how is this achieved best? |
| 02:43.49 | *** join/#debian sh1ro (~sh1ro@gateway/tor-sasl/sh1ro) |
| 02:44.20 | somiaj | chmod and chown with the -R flag (recursive) |
| 02:49.49 | *** join/#debian dza (~dza@unaffiliated/dza) |
| 02:49.59 | Sveta | oh, sorry, i mean all newly created files too |
| 02:51.19 | *** join/#debian mahe (~mahe@p4FFBBE06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:51.32 | *** join/#debian thib (~thib@wikimedia/Thibaut120094) |
| 02:52.04 | *** join/#debian mDfRg (~mDfRg@ksrv.com.pl) |
| 02:52.17 | somiaj | Sveta: this is a much more difficult problem (since there are lots of ways files can be created), but setting up a umask and setgid bit will help with this. umaks of 002 will make all files 775 by default, and the setgid bit will make newly created files adopt the group of the directory. |
| 02:52.47 | *** join/#debian ongy (~ongy@unaffiliated/ongy) |
| 02:54.18 | *** join/#debian e14 (~e14@2601:184:4180:da74:2c90:def7:2f1f:2e55) |
| 02:55.27 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@unaffiliated/bnw) |
| 03:00.32 | *** join/#debian cadillac_ (~omab@r179-28-169-120.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 03:01.30 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 03:03.09 | *** join/#debian password2 (~password@unaffiliated/password2) |
| 03:07.52 | *** join/#debian chachasmooth_ (~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth) |
| 03:08.41 | *** join/#debian JackK (jack@pdpc/supporter/active/Jkessler) |
| 03:10.23 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128.223.223.0) |
| 03:12.24 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 03:12.51 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:14.07 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-roabcwkbchwxsmkm) |
| 03:18.27 | *** join/#debian mnemonic (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 03:19.12 | *** join/#debian toozej (~toozej@174-25-45-230.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 03:20.03 | *** join/#debian neldogz (~neldogz@ool-4350296e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:20.25 | *** join/#debian HeXiLeD (~grumpy@unaffiliated/hexiled) |
| 03:23.16 | *** join/#debian hobbanero (~hobbanero@50-83-238-125.client.mchsi.com) |
| 03:24.28 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 03:24.59 | *** join/#debian SleePy (~SleePy@simplemachines/siteteam/SleePy) |
| 03:26.04 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-1-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 03:26.20 | *** join/#debian awal1 (~awal1@dsl-67-230-140-236.tor.primus.ca) |
| 03:26.43 | *** join/#debian uptime (alore@wikimania/cagematch/uptime) |
| 03:27.39 | *** join/#debian r0Oter (~r00ter@p5DDF2014.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:28.13 | Sveta | somiaj: ok, thanks |
| 03:29.30 | awal1 | Not used to vpn stuff but thinking in try openvpn just by curiosity |
| 03:30.04 | awal1 | I followed a few tutorials for debian but something files always at the end; not really sure why |
| 03:30.26 | *** join/#debian [b0b] (~bob@unaffiliated/sulfyr) |
| 03:30.38 | awal1 | any nice tuto up-to-date for how to use /config openvpn with/under debian? |
| 03:31.20 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 03:31.24 | hidari | https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install |
| 03:31.28 | hidari | openvpn install scripts |
| 03:31.31 | hidari | script |
| 03:31.54 | hidari | i use it all the time. works great and i use it all over |
| 03:34.29 | awal1 | will check that , thanks hidari, but I would like to do stuff from A to B my self. something like https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-debian-8 but up'to'date and working |
| 03:34.48 | *** join/#debian darkhanb (~textual@71-38-13-159.lsv2.qwest.net) |
| 03:35.00 | awal1 | not for server but home desktop only |
| 03:35.16 | awal1 | well, I confess i am a bit confused about that |
| 03:35.42 | awal1 | confusion server vs client |
| 03:36.11 | awal1 | a to z :P |
| 03:41.57 | *** join/#debian tsuggs (~tsuggs@adsl-074-171-024-060.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:45.11 | *** join/#debian Myk256 (~myk267@unaffiliated/myk267) |
| 03:45.12 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 03:45.59 | hidari | awal1: read the process of the script. After reading DigitalOcean site, looking at the code in that script helped me understand the rest of it. |
| 03:46.11 | hidari | seeing the code at times is easier to understand |
| 03:46.19 | hidari | well....just a bash script |
| 03:50.59 | *** join/#debian ledeni (~ledeni@c210-49-84-69.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:51.02 | *** join/#debian tsuggs (~tsuggs@adsl-074-171-024-060.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:54.32 | *** join/#debian evilroots (~roots@bnc.janky.solutions) |
| 03:58.25 | *** join/#debian Jkessler (~jack@pdpc/supporter/active/Jkessler) |
| 04:05.56 | *** join/#debian metax (~metax@gateway/tor-sasl/metax) |
| 04:06.19 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 04:09.55 | *** join/#debian vahe (~vahe@unaffiliated/vahe) |
| 04:12.05 | vahe | good day, how to connect USB to Android galaxy MTP? I installed libmtp* mtp-tools jmtpfs mtpfs the system displays the phone but doesn't work (xfce thunar) |
| 04:17.01 | *** join/#debian MACscr (~MACscr@c-73-9-230-5.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:18.02 | *** join/#debian metxn (~metax@gateway/tor-sasl/metax) |
| 04:18.08 | *** join/#debian Nawab (~OtakuSenp@117.194.218.221) |
| 04:20.04 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 04:20.59 | *** join/#debian metxn (~metax@gateway/tor-sasl/metax) |
| 04:24.11 | *** join/#debian Riyria (~Riyria@s9120518626.blix.com) |
| 04:24.15 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@pC19F28DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:25.15 | *** join/#debian Raed|Mobile (~Raed@2601:18c:8601:c7e9:edde:733a:4b77:3685) |
| 04:27.41 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 04:27.54 | vahe | another problem, can't run from home-icecat for example , shows that there is no execute https://lut.im/UWjNUAdDdR/GFmUq4TVSyWZ9tLh.png , but if you start thunar in root is present execute |
| 04:28.33 | vahe | this problem started after installing libmtp* mtp-tools jmtpfs mtpfs |
| 04:33.59 | vahe | no ideas? |
| 04:34.38 | awal1 | vahe, all what I need here for play with my android phone is have 'gvfs-backends' installed |
| 04:35.42 | *** join/#debian Neomex (~quassel@net-37-117-5-106.cust.vodafonedsl.it) |
| 04:35.45 | awal1 | then my phone gets connected via usb cable and automatically detected by my file manager (pcmanfc or thunar) |
| 04:35.53 | vahe | awal1: thank you very much, I'll try |
| 04:36.04 | somiaj | I personally use adb to get files on/off my andriod. I find it much faster than MTP |
| 04:36.25 | vahe | adb? |
| 04:37.01 | vahe | awal1: what do you say about the other problems? |
| 04:37.06 | vahe | execute |
| 04:37.11 | awal1 | vale, check if gMTP if you wanta gui for mtp transfer stuff |
| 04:37.15 | somiaj | andriod debug bridge. You need to turn on developer mode, but it gives you direct access to the files on the device (well ones you can access without root), and you can transfer at full usb speeds. I find mtp dreadfully slow. |
| 04:38.03 | vahe | somiaj: ok thanks also try |
| 04:38.19 | somiaj | but works you can basicaly adb pull and adb push to get files on and off (you do have to learn the directory stucture of your device though) |
| 04:38.50 | awal1 | vahe, not sure about your other issues. I am not a phone/pictures7facebook stuff oriented. I just use my phone for call, almost :D |
| 04:39.25 | awal1 | sometimes make pictures/videos so I transfer to my debian system; that is all :P |
| 04:40.24 | vahe | to be honest I have my phone N900 it's for free, I download movies from torrents and watch movies ) does not connect even wiifi |
| 04:41.54 | vahe | I think the phone not only for calls, you can use it for other purposes, it is important what kind of phone, for example my N900 I use pidgin+otr + firefox |
| 04:41.57 | vahe | :P |
| 04:42.33 | awal1 | not aware about phone stuff not bcoz I am not up-to-date with new technologies, I am surely; but that is just bcoz I am not in/on/ don't wanna be part of "life mediatization" business |
| 04:42.42 | vahe | I repeat, what could help me, can't run from home-icecat for example , shows that there is no execute https://lut.im/UWjNUAdDdR/GFmUq4TVSyWZ9tLh.png , but if you start thunar in root is present execute |
| 04:42.58 | *** join/#debian mahafyi (~chatzilla@182.65.185.124) |
| 04:43.02 | somiaj | I miss the days of phones just acking like a usb mass storage device. I am not a fan of MTP. |
| 04:44.05 | vahe | or ./icecat |
| 04:44.06 | vahe | bash: ./icecat: Permission denied |
| 04:44.08 | awal1 | vahe, your goal is: connect your phone device to you debian machine via usb cable and transfer stuff from phone to computer and vice versa? |
| 04:44.27 | awal1 | not sure if that is what you want finally |
| 04:45.12 | vahe | it is clear , I'm more interested in the startup problem icecat |
| 04:45.16 | vahe | execute |
| 04:46.07 | awal1 | me have to google what the guy means by startup execute icecat |
| 04:46.48 | vahe | this is just an example. |
| 04:47.06 | vahe | I have not start nothing if necessary execute |
| 04:47.22 | vahe | only runs, root |
| 04:47.25 | *** join/#debian f9k (~f9k@189.225.242.74) |
| 04:48.21 | vahe | okay ,maybe I need to restart dektop then come back |
| 04:48.36 | *** join/#debian iflema (~ian@203-217-47-233.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:48.41 | *** part/#debian vahe (~vahe@unaffiliated/vahe) |
| 04:48.53 | *** part/#debian iflema (~ian@203-217-47-233.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:48.58 | awal1 | no clue what the guy wanna do |
| 04:49.02 | awal1 | well, he left |
| 04:50.45 | *** join/#debian vahe (~vahe@unaffiliated/vahe) |
| 04:51.56 | vahe | thanks awal1 gvfs-backends work :) |
| 04:52.20 | awal1 | vahe, good for you |
| 04:56.39 | *** join/#debian sibyakin (~sibyakin@83.234.69.145) |
| 04:57.08 | vahe | chmod +x icecat helped ,very strange this , maybe something has changed in usermod |
| 04:57.41 | awal1 | somiaj, guess with 'adb' i'll be able to purge non needed apps shipped automatically with my google lg nexus phone? |
| 04:57.59 | awal1 | stuff like play movies and so.. |
| 04:58.07 | awal1 | I guess ^ |
| 04:59.04 | *** join/#debian Ericounet (~Ericounet@91.161.83.8) |
| 04:59.35 | *** join/#debian vahe (~vahe@unaffiliated/vahe) |
| 05:00.23 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i5387C00A.versanet.de) |
| 05:00.42 | *** part/#debian buu (~buu@99-74-60-251.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:01.06 | vahe | hah, just deleted libmtp*and reinstalled gvfs-backends and it worked |
| 05:01.30 | vahe | thank you all |
| 05:02.56 | awal1 | !next |
| 05:02.57 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 05:04.48 | somiaj | awal1: you could do stuff like that, but be careful. I tend to only use it to copy pictures from my phone, and on my system it is way faster than MTP. So I don't actually mess with the files on the phone exceput throught he phones interface. |
| 05:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1469] by debhelper |
| 05:07.21 | *** join/#debian vahe (~vahe@unaffiliated/vahe) |
| 05:08.10 | awal1 | ok, somiaj. |
| 05:09.00 | somiaj | awal1: all I really know is android gives you lots of warnings when turing on developer mode. (: |
| 05:12.25 | *** join/#debian babyflakes (uid171740@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vuoxbnwrqtaseedy) |
| 05:14.05 | awal1 | somiaj, I know one can enabled root access for android device, then remove stuff like under gnu/linux machine, but I haven't checked seriously that yet; so not sure about details |
| 05:14.10 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93) |
| 05:14.40 | awal1 | but, yeah, mtp transfer is very slow |
| 05:14.48 | *** join/#debian mhall119 (~mhall@ubuntu/member/mhall119) |
| 05:15.13 | awal1 | I do that rarely, so not an issue for me |
| 05:15.45 | *** join/#debian zerick (~zerick@irc.quassel.zerick.io) |
| 05:15.59 | *** join/#debian LorD_n1c0w (~igor@187.45.177.18) |
| 05:16.09 | *** join/#debian holden- (~holden-@unaffiliated/holden-) |
| 05:16.38 | *** join/#debian cadillac_ (~omab@r179-28-169-120.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 05:17.58 | awal1 | my "problem" now is that I should understand seriously networking, all sides |
| 05:18.31 | awal1 | Internet is mandatory nowadays |
| 05:18.42 | awal1 | many bad guys outside there... |
| 05:19.13 | *** join/#debian LeandroLuiz (~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz) |
| 05:19.54 | *** join/#debian aaap (~aaap@unaffiliated/aaap) |
| 05:20.55 | *** join/#debian mueslo (~quassel@x8d1eca37.agdsn.tu-dresden.de) |
| 05:21.04 | *** join/#debian f9k (~f9k@189.225.242.74) |
| 05:23.39 | *** join/#debian totonika (~toto@ip-134-130-118-111.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de) |
| 05:24.25 | *** join/#debian dayten (~gnoid@188.170.198.236) |
| 05:28.41 | *** join/#debian cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@185.228.106.18) |
| 05:31.43 | *** join/#debian biffbaxter (~biffbaxte@75.104.68.202) |
| 05:32.02 | *** join/#debian xqb (~xqb@gateway/tor-sasl/xqb) |
| 05:32.18 | *** join/#debian sh1ro (~sh1ro@gateway/tor-sasl/sh1ro) |
| 05:33.33 | *** join/#debian Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 05:37.19 | *** join/#debian xocite (local@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/xocite) |
| 05:40.30 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-1-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 05:41.01 | *** join/#debian TvL2386 (~tom@ip206-57-176-143.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 05:41.59 | *** join/#debian setty (~setty@unaffiliated/setty) |
| 05:42.29 | *** join/#debian bazhang (~bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang) |
| 05:43.11 | *** join/#debian crn (~crn@108.226.33.225) |
| 05:58.41 | *** join/#debian HeOS (~heos@50-76-58-201-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 05:59.56 | *** join/#debian JakeSqPants (~Jake@118.131.203.130) |
| 06:00.57 | *** join/#debian __marco (~marco@185.40.60.76) |
| 06:02.10 | *** join/#debian JakeSqPants (~Jake@118.131.203.130) |
| 06:05.22 | *** join/#debian LorD_n1c0w (~igor@187.45.177.18) |
| 06:05.40 | *** join/#debian matthelmke__ (~matthelmk@66.43.210.220) |
| 06:09.28 | *** join/#debian azizLIGHT (~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight) |
| 06:21.57 | *** join/#debian ghost43 (~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer) |
| 06:22.33 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian lightgun (sid271479@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyxcuiunrkimucoh) |
| 06:30.39 | *** join/#debian toolz (~toolz@unaffiliated/toolz) |
| 06:32.26 | *** join/#debian repz_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/repz) |
| 06:35.54 | *** join/#debian LocaMocha (bocaneri@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 06:36.02 | likcoras | I'm not too familiar with the debian package tracker/etc. but does https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=pkg-golang-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org mean that 1.9 is eventually making it into stretch-backports |
| 06:36.06 | likcoras | ?? |
| 06:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1462] by debhelper |
| 06:37.42 | bazhang | ,v golang |
| 06:37.43 | judd | Package: golang on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.2-1.1; wheezy-security: 2:1.0.2-1.1+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2:1.3.3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:1.3.3-1; jessie-backports: 2:1.5.1-4~bpo8+1; jessie-backports: 2:1.7~5~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:1.7~5; stretch-backports: 2:1.8~3~bpo9+1; buster: 2:1.9~2; sid: 2:1.9~2 |
| 06:40.11 | likcoras | I'm wondering whether I should go through the process of installing go1.9 manually or whether I should just wait for it to make it into backports. |
| 06:41.15 | *** join/#debian annadane (~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-01-69-156-34-138.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 06:41.24 | *** join/#debian xormor (~xormor@unaffiliated/xormor) |
| 06:42.42 | *** join/#debian mahafyi (~chatzilla@42.111.170.163) |
| 06:43.00 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 06:44.14 | *** join/#debian JustASlacker (~JustASlac@213.83.43.18) |
| 06:44.45 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 06:47.30 | *** join/#debian repz (~quassel@unaffiliated/repz) |
| 06:49.44 | *** join/#debian akdrwily (~davey@cpe-172-197-151-235.sa.foxtel.net.au) |
| 06:50.36 | akdrwily | Any info on the Meltdown and Spectre issues in Stretch? |
| 06:53.16 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 06:53.38 | *** join/#debian velix_inuse (~Velix@x4db6635e.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 06:54.57 | *** join/#debian adoua (~adoua@unaffiliated/adoua) |
| 06:58.00 | *** join/#debian Snowdrift (~Snowdrift@77.242.110.22) |
| 06:59.14 | *** join/#debian chele (~chele@2a02:8106:1:f900:faca:b8ff:fe2f:8499) |
| 07:00.43 | *** join/#debian Frikilinux (~Friki@unaffiliated/frikilinux) |
| 07:01.24 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-71-232-198-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 07:02.46 | *** join/#debian k01101011 (~k01101011@75.97.137.118.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net) |
| 07:07.30 | *** join/#debian enki (~enki@dynamic-78-30-156-107.adsl.eunet.rs) |
| 07:12.23 | *** join/#debian LucaTM (~LucaTM@unaffiliated/lucatm) |
| 07:14.06 | *** part/#debian lightgun (sid271479@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyxcuiunrkimucoh) |
| 07:15.20 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-143-226.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:15.57 | *** join/#debian misty5 (~pokemongi@gateway/tor-sasl/pokemongirl) |
| 07:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1468] by debhelper |
| 07:17.17 | *** join/#debian joegiampaoli (~joegiampa@189.216.207.238) |
| 07:17.47 | *** join/#debian LiENUS (~quake@108-242-135-2.lightspeed.btrgla.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:18.51 | bazhang | ,v hexchat |
| 07:18.52 | judd | Package: hexchat on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 2.12.4-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.12.4-3; buster: 2.12.4-5+b3; sid: 2.12.4-5+b3 |
| 07:20.27 | *** join/#debian conta (~Thunderbi@94.112.251.98.static.b2b.upcbusiness.cz) |
| 07:23.13 | *** join/#debian NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@unaffiliated/dontknow) |
| 07:25.49 | *** join/#debian heurist` (~heurist@unaffiliated/heurist) |
| 07:27.08 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 07:27.09 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 07:28.37 | *** join/#debian vergilzen (~chris@107.167.5.91) |
| 07:30.19 | *** join/#debian n_blownapart (~john@2601:644:500:ed90:9eef:d5ff:feff:34fe) |
| 07:30.25 | n_blownapart | hello I get a message '/dev/sr0 is already mounted on /media/current_dvd. my vlc player will flash a movie title but then shut off. how to be sure the drive is mounted properly on debian stretch? thanks |
| 07:30.31 | *** join/#debian symphonesis (~undefined@p549D3323.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:31.10 | *** join/#debian annadane (~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-01-69-156-34-138.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 07:32.58 | *** join/#debian martinus__ (~martin@111.239.24.109.rev.sfr.net) |
| 07:36.24 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 07:37.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1474] by debhelper |
| 07:41.02 | *** join/#debian Elirips (~Elirips@242.109.22.178.ftth.as8758.net) |
| 07:49.56 | *** join/#debian fightthewalrus (~username@223.39.149.87) |
| 07:52.02 | *** join/#debian Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1) |
| 07:54.06 | *** join/#debian pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@unaffiliated/pingfloyd) |
| 07:56.56 | *** join/#debian shannara (~Stanislas@130.193.24.135) |
| 07:57.57 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 08:00.01 | *** part/#debian akdrwily (~davey@cpe-172-197-151-235.sa.foxtel.net.au) |
| 08:00.07 | NetTerminalGene | when was stretch released? |
| 08:00.23 | NetTerminalGene | 1 year passed? |
| 08:00.42 | *** join/#debian DieMoesch (~DieMoesch@194.120.214.6) |
| 08:02.31 | *** join/#debian MegaXLR (~megaxlr@46.44.177.121) |
| 08:03.03 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:03.19 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.237.110) |
| 08:06.02 | *** join/#debian OS-35834 (~OS-35834@cable-static-87-245-101-84.shinternet.ch) |
| 08:07.30 | *** part/#debian zetheroo (~eb@home.meteotest.ch) |
| 08:07.46 | *** join/#debian nix64bit (~Thunderbi@197.155.4.163) |
| 08:09.28 | *** join/#debian stibium (~stibium@big320.static.otenet.gr) |
| 08:09.59 | *** join/#debian Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@unaffiliated/nefertiti) |
| 08:10.06 | NetTerminalGene | ok i found |
| 08:12.10 | *** join/#debian jazz (~jazz@2a03:7220:8081:da02:5e51:4fff:fecc:5254) |
| 08:15.41 | *** join/#debian Crypto (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 08:16.43 | *** join/#debian LioneLL (~Pidgin@men13-2-82-224-174-71.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:16.51 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 08:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1481] by debhelper |
| 08:17.32 | *** join/#debian jerdef82 (~jerdef@213.211.143.54) |
| 08:17.41 | *** join/#debian Krisostoomus (~krisostoo@82.131.38.5.cable.starman.ee) |
| 08:18.45 | *** join/#debian bbdgl (~Thunderbi@2a05:a1c7:1:b101:45d7:45c8:2996:7aa1) |
| 08:20.16 | *** join/#debian imadz713 (~Thunderbi@105.100.68.217) |
| 08:20.55 | *** join/#debian JustStephIt (~JustSteph@108.62.228.187) |
| 08:22.26 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@cpe-177-168-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 08:22.45 | *** join/#debian __marco (~marco@2001:7e8:cb12:8d00:d3cb:afb8:98ad:b50f) |
| 08:22.47 | *** join/#debian aielima (~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima) |
| 08:22.52 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87) |
| 08:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1488] by debhelper |
| 08:31.04 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 08:31.40 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:31.50 | *** join/#debian torrezno3 (~torrezno@gateway/tor-sasl/sharker) |
| 08:34.11 | *** join/#debian maxzor (~maxzor@LMontsouris-657-1-196-14.w90-63.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:36.00 | *** join/#debian argusbr (~online@unaffiliated/argusbr) |
| 08:36.04 | *** join/#debian steveh7 (~steveh7@122-62-44-1.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 08:36.16 | *** join/#debian alxy (uid115853@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bruvotytyqorneke) |
| 08:36.57 | *** join/#debian a_duck (~danke@91.207.110.20) |
| 08:38.59 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 08:39.32 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93) |
| 08:40.23 | *** join/#debian maxzor_ (~maxzor@LMontsouris-657-1-196-14.w90-63.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:40.27 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:41.32 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 08:42.05 | misty5 | pinging my server yields ping response.. but just nmapping it says "not responding to pings.. host down". That makes no sense. Any idea what's going on here? |
| 08:42.20 | JustASlacker | ipv4 vs ipv6 ? |
| 08:42.24 | *** join/#debian torrezno3 (~torrezno@gateway/tor-sasl/sharker) |
| 08:42.34 | misty5 | both ipv4 |
| 08:43.11 | JustASlacker | O_o |
| 08:43.16 | JustASlacker | pastebin... |
| 08:44.20 | *** join/#debian pyface (~pyface@about/security/contributor/pyface) |
| 08:46.20 | *** join/#debian chele (~chele@2a02:8106:1:f900:faca:b8ff:fe2f:8499) |
| 08:46.27 | *** join/#debian Drzacek (~Drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de) |
| 08:48.06 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 08:50.32 | *** join/#debian nic_ (~nic@190.175.28.153) |
| 08:51.52 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:52.30 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 08:54.28 | *** join/#debian iderik (~idk@h-0-97.A147.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 08:55.43 | *** join/#debian boris_t (~boris_t@109.248.217.2) |
| 08:59.24 | *** join/#debian rpd_ (~rpd@unaffiliated/rpd-/x-3237070) |
| 08:59.39 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 09:01.41 | *** join/#debian funabashi (funabashi@185.52.0.236) |
| 09:08.55 | *** join/#debian VlijmenFileer (~VlijmenFi@199.195.193.181) |
| 09:11.58 | *** join/#debian starrycat (~lain@unaffiliated/starrycat) |
| 09:12.56 | starrycat | hello, is there any way to enable bitmap fonts without ruining all of the fonts on my browser? |
| 09:13.09 | starrycat | for some reason it only happens in debian |
| 09:13.51 | *** join/#debian Sabotend_ (~Sabotende@unaffiliated/sabotender) |
| 09:16.18 | *** join/#debian devurandom (~quassel@unaffiliated/devurandom) |
| 09:16.22 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 09:16.38 | *** join/#debian VlijmenFileer (~VlijmenFi@199.195.193.181) |
| 09:16.49 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~RebelCode@178-57-234-17.dynvpn.flex.ru) |
| 09:18.34 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 09:19.18 | *** join/#debian Ilyas (uid43013@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gyfyuyrhfckkdgvd) |
| 09:21.48 | *** part/#debian xocite (local@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/xocite) |
| 09:22.22 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 09:26.28 | *** join/#debian VlijmenFileer (~VlijmenFi@139.192.84.231) |
| 09:27.19 | *** join/#debian rpd_ (~rpd@unaffiliated/rpd-/x-3237070) |
| 09:27.20 | *** join/#debian mahafyi (~chatzilla@42.111.170.163) |
| 09:29.39 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.237.110) |
| 09:29.43 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 09:35.19 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@27-32-185-163.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:36.05 | *** join/#debian kein31 (~root@62.33.40.233) |
| 09:38.04 | *** join/#debian _ADN_ (~username@5.148.34.186) |
| 09:39.10 | *** join/#debian lucad111 (~lucad111@linaro/lucad111) |
| 09:45.34 | *** join/#debian Slashman (~Slash@cosium-152-18.fib.nerim.net) |
| 09:46.43 | *** part/#debian k01101011 (~k01101011@75.97.137.118.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net) |
| 09:47.46 | *** join/#debian phre4k (~phre4k@unaffiliated/phre4k) |
| 09:47.54 | phre4k | how do I run php5-fpm on Debian 9? |
| 09:49.32 | petn-randall | phre4k: At which part trying did you get stuck? |
| 09:50.03 | phre4k | petn-randall: apt search php5 fpm |
| 09:50.12 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 09:50.29 | phre4k | it's sadly only in oldstable |
| 09:50.56 | petn-randall | phre4k: Oh, php5 is not available in stretch, yes. You'll have to install jessie if you want php5. jessie is still supported. |
| 09:51.17 | phre4k | damn. Thanks. |
| 09:51.25 | *** join/#debian toolz (~toolz@unaffiliated/toolz) |
| 09:51.39 | petn-randall | phre4k: I believe there are also 3rd party repos that have it packaged, but I can't really recommend any. |
| 09:51.46 | *** join/#debian LioneLL (~Pidgin@men13-2-82-224-174-71.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:51.55 | petn-randall | phre4k: One other way would be to do a local install by hand. |
| 09:52.08 | phre4k | petn-randall: 3rd party repos was what I hoped for :'D |
| 09:52.42 | toolz | hi, I am trying to install debian 9 latest on 2 ssds, raid software, sdi/sdj, I am creating the raid device md0 and then I created lvm, one volume group and 2 lvms, for root / mounted and swap, the installation fails when I try to install grub on the first disk or when entering manually /dev/vg0/root or anything else |
| 09:53.08 | petn-randall | !deb.sury.org |
| 09:53.08 | dpkg | Short instructions for sury's php deb builds can be found at https://packages.sury.org/php/README.txt |
| 09:53.24 | petn-randall | phre4k: ^^^ I believe this is an unofficial repo by the PHP maintainer of Debian. |
| 09:53.57 | petn-randall | toolz: Does the system have BIOS or UEFI? |
| 09:54.00 | phre4k | the question is: do I trust him |
| 09:54.20 | phre4k | er, I mean, is it really him |
| 09:54.48 | toolz | petn-randall: both but we use bios |
| 09:54.57 | phre4k | I think jessie is the sane option here, this will be a production server |
| 09:54.59 | petn-randall | phre4k: You *could* check if the apt key is cross-signed by his DD key. |
| 09:55.37 | pingfloyd | I wouldn't recommend 3rd party repos either |
| 09:56.14 | petn-randall | !jessie-lts |
| 09:56.14 | dpkg | Security support for Debian 8 "jessie" from the Debian Security Team should end around 2018-05. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures will receive additional long term support (<LTS>) via <jessie/updates> until around 2020 for a 5 year lifetime total. See https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information |
| 09:56.33 | pingfloyd | phre4k: do you know his fingerprint? |
| 09:56.52 | petn-randall | phre4k: LTS for jessie should still be around a bit. ^^^ Enough time to upgrade your apps to php7 and move to stretch or buster by then. |
| 09:57.39 | *** join/#debian mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) |
| 09:57.43 | *** join/#debian pav (~pav@m77-216-124-194.cust.tele2.hr) |
| 09:58.09 | *** join/#debian Sasan (~Sasan@unaffiliated/sasan) |
| 09:58.18 | *** join/#debian metxn (~metax@gateway/tor-sasl/metax) |
| 09:59.05 | *** join/#debian Unline (~Unline@gateway/tor-sasl/unline) |
| 09:59.55 | toolz | petn-randall: any clues, please? |
| 10:01.01 | *** join/#debian scoobertron (~tom@154.57.226.247) |
| 10:02.35 | petn-randall | toolz: Have you partitioned the disks or did you create a RAID directly on the blank disks? |
| 10:02.56 | toolz | petn-randall: raid directly on the disks |
| 10:03.41 | petn-randall | toolz: Ah, then grub has no space to write itself in the MBR. You need to partition those devices so grub can write itself onto the beginning. |
| 10:03.49 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 10:03.52 | toolz | ok, got it, trying now |
| 10:04.06 | babilen | phre4k: My recommendation would be to use jessie while you work on getting the codebase in shape for PHP7. We've seen significant increases in performance after the transition in most deployments, so you might want to do that sooner rather than later |
| 10:05.31 | phre4k | babilen: well I'm surely not going to get the codebase of Magento to PHP7 |
| 10:05.55 | babilen | They should in that case |
| 10:06.11 | babilen | Staying on PHP5 isn't really a viable plan |
| 10:06.55 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.237.110) |
| 10:07.55 | *** join/#debian amcorreia (~amcorreia@201.22.253.193.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 10:08.15 | *** join/#debian DocHopper (~DocHopper@unaffiliated/dochopper) |
| 10:11.39 | *** join/#debian wigums (~wigums@unaffiliated/wigums) |
| 10:12.06 | *** join/#debian goatish (~textual@2607:fea8:235f:f3ac:748d:c435:318c:5d80) |
| 10:12.31 | *** join/#debian menace (~nobody@unaffiliated/menace) |
| 10:12.40 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 10:13.49 | toolz | petn-randall: I created 2 partitions on the 2 disks, and re-created the software raid, I am trying again now.. |
| 10:14.20 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 10:15.02 | toolz | though it seems to look the same, as when I picked up the disks seemd that it already created partitions on those two disks... |
| 10:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1495] by debhelper |
| 10:17.31 | petn-randall | toolz: You need to wipe the old mdraid signatures from the disk, otherwise you've got a mess when the partitions and raid elements overlap. |
| 10:17.47 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 10:19.54 | *** join/#debian quenode (~quenode@cable-89-216-16-150.static.sbb.rs) |
| 10:20.11 | *** join/#debian Crypto (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 10:24.25 | *** join/#debian l3archos (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/l3archos) |
| 10:26.40 | toolz | petn-randall: when I delete from the installer any existing raids, doesnit it do it? |
| 10:26.51 | *** join/#debian sudhackar_ (~sudhackar@122.169.99.101) |
| 10:27.25 | *** join/#debian Crypto (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 10:28.12 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 10:29.43 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@unaffiliated/bnw) |
| 10:30.02 | *** join/#debian danvey (~danvey@185.55.107.45) |
| 10:31.13 | petn-randall | toolz: Assuming it recognized them, it will wipe the signature if you delete them, yes. |
| 10:32.03 | misty5 | "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host" when I'm trying to connect to a specific port |
| 10:32.37 | misty5 | works for 22 but not 12345 or any other port |
| 10:35.07 | *** join/#debian dcpc007 (~dcpc007@185.8.252.36) |
| 10:35.40 | vlt | Hello. What possible reasons are there that since a few minutes I can't connect from any machine in network A to host B (Debian) in another network but still from A to any host C that I tried (and even to a host in the same network as B) and from there to host B? I tried SSH, HTTP and ICMP. The latter gave me this strange response pattern: http://termbin.com/e7w2 |
| 10:35.44 | *** join/#debian Rhaal (~Rhaal@host158-74-dynamic.250-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:36.27 | toolz | petn-randall: its weird, it is still not working.. I mean I cannot even create more partitions, for example md0p1 md0p2, if I want, it just created one device md0 with one partiotion with the entire size, is this normal? |
| 10:38.54 | *** join/#debian DerLG (~derlg@unaffiliated/derlg) |
| 10:45.49 | *** join/#debian mahafyi (~chatzilla@122.174.13.97) |
| 10:48.36 | *** join/#debian qba73 (~qba73@62.17.146.185) |
| 10:50.04 | *** join/#debian f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@unaffiliated/f4cl3y) |
| 10:52.26 | *** join/#debian aaap (~aaap@unaffiliated/aaap) |
| 10:52.34 | *** join/#debian iresf (55efd85c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.85.239.216.92) |
| 10:55.39 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 10:56.14 | *** join/#debian VlijmenFileer (~VlijmenFi@199.195.193.181) |
| 10:56.49 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzkermucomleiynb) |
| 10:57.27 | *** join/#debian cadillac_ (~omab@r186-51-210-177.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 10:59.23 | *** join/#debian mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) |
| 11:00.12 | *** join/#debian qba73 (~qba73@62.17.146.144) |
| 11:00.23 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i5387C00A.versanet.de) |
| 11:02.34 | funabashi | hi guys ist possible i can see what a guy have done atfter he removed/clean bash_history ? |
| 11:04.06 | petn-randall | toolz: I think you're mixing things up. You need to create partitions on the *disks*, not the raid device. |
| 11:04.59 | dcpc007 | hi, i would use ncdu -f file in a script and automatically quit the ncdu (need a "q" key input), any idea |
| 11:06.11 | toolz | petn-randall: thats what I am doing, I now booted in rescue, wiped the disks and created them as dos, created 2 partitions on them as primary and used as raid, re-created the raid md0 and now waiting till the install goes on so I can see if grub will now install. |
| 11:06.23 | dcpc007 | i need to capture the last line (with the total size of the folder) |
| 11:06.44 | toolz | petn-randall: disks were formatted as gpt before, could that affect? |
| 11:07.34 | *** join/#debian Elirips (~Elirips@178.22.109.242) |
| 11:07.49 | petn-randall | toolz: If you have GPT, you need an extra grub partition. With MBR you don't. |
| 11:08.23 | toolz | petn-randall: thought so, so I thinkg I should be fine now, we'll see |
| 11:08.55 | *** join/#debian mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) |
| 11:08.57 | funabashi | can i join a pts/5 session? |
| 11:09.16 | dcpc007 | https://paste.debian.net/1008141/ |
| 11:09.41 | dcpc007 | this return me "spawn ncdu -f ...." |
| 11:09.46 | petn-randall | funabashi: No. What problem are you trying to solve? |
| 11:09.55 | dcpc007 | the text as if it doesn't execute the line |
| 11:10.18 | toolz | petn-randall: just asking, when the grub asks me to install on a hard disk, should I choose the first disk or should I enter /dev/pve/root manually? to install it on the raid device? |
| 11:10.20 | funabashi | pentiumone133: i want to see what acitivty a user has on my server |
| 11:10.44 | toolz | petn-randall: on the raid device I created 1 vg and 2lvms for root and swap. |
| 11:11.19 | funabashi | petn-randall: he did history -c so i cant see now :P |
| 11:11.40 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 11:12.56 | petn-randall | toolz: You want to install grub on the disks. It doesn't make sense to install to the raid device because your bios knows nothing about it to hand off booting to. |
| 11:13.13 | petn-randall | funabashi: If you don't trust them, don't let them on your server. |
| 11:13.23 | *** join/#debian Crypto (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 11:13.24 | toolz | petn-randall: ok, so first disk should be fine, lets see.. :) |
| 11:13.44 | petn-randall | toolz: Personally I'd put it on both disks, in case one of them dies you'll still be able to boot. |
| 11:13.58 | toolz | petn-randall: can I do it from the installer?\ |
| 11:14.06 | petn-randall | toolz: sure |
| 11:14.28 | toolz | ok, I'm at the step when it installs the selected software, so few moments left.. :) |
| 11:14.35 | funabashi | petn-randall: it was not the question but thx anyway |
| 11:14.41 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@my83-216-95-253.cust.relish.net) |
| 11:14.48 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 11:15.35 | petn-randall | funabashi: There's not much you can do after the fact, because bash history is not designed to be foolproof. |
| 11:15.47 | funabashi | ok |
| 11:16.08 | petn-randall | funabashi: If you want to track users on your system, you need to set up something like selinux or some other tool to report every execution. |
| 11:17.21 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@abqa211.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 11:18.22 | *** join/#debian section1 (~section1@152.168.219.137) |
| 11:20.11 | toolz | petn-randall: how exactly can I do it from the installer? |
| 11:20.54 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 11:20.59 | petn-randall | toolz: I haven't installed in a while, but at some point you can select where to install it to, then you just select both disks. |
| 11:21.40 | toolz | petn-randall: you cant select both disks :D it worked on first one, I will install it afterwards from the command line |
| 11:22.13 | *** join/#debian paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@198-0-107-153-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 11:22.58 | *** join/#debian cruncher (~cruncher@gateway/tor-sasl/cruncher) |
| 11:23.50 | *** join/#debian BluesKaj (~Blues@unaffiliated/blueskaj) |
| 11:27.43 | *** join/#debian chrios_ (~chris@59.167.103.58) |
| 11:28.35 | *** join/#debian Gaaab (~Gaaab@95.233.165.118) |
| 11:31.54 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 11:31.55 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@my83-216-95-253.cust.relish.net) |
| 11:36.16 | *** join/#debian chrios_ (~chris@C-59-101-255-244.bur.connect.net.au) |
| 11:37.05 | *** join/#debian kidnextdoor (~igor@unaffiliated/imaginarius) |
| 11:39.05 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@199.201.66.0) |
| 11:40.28 | *** join/#debian pk12 (~pk12@199.241.146.163) |
| 11:40.52 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 11:41.45 | *** join/#debian ang310 (~ang310@222.29.49.241) |
| 11:42.44 | ang310 | hi there...one question: to change ls colours I put a theme in .dir_colors and then I have echo 'eval $(dircolors ~/.dir_colors)' >> ~/.bashrc |
| 11:42.54 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 11:42.59 | ang310 | this works on ubuntu but not on debian in changing the ls colors |
| 11:43.03 | ang310 | any suggestion? |
| 11:46.58 | *** join/#debian cruncher (~cruncher@gateway/tor-sasl/cruncher) |
| 11:47.59 | *** join/#debian elevated (~elevated@199.254.238.203) |
| 11:48.06 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@55d4ab57.access.ecotel.net) |
| 11:49.23 | *** join/#debian Drzacek (~Drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de) |
| 11:50.35 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.238.45) |
| 11:50.35 | *** join/#debian lankanmon (~LKNnet@CPE64777dd7e053-CM64777dd7e050.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 11:50.47 | *** join/#debian skipshooter (~markie@107.181.69.139) |
| 11:52.41 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@212.185.43.201) |
| 11:52.57 | *** join/#debian jerdef82 (~jerdef@213.211.143.54) |
| 11:53.23 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@199.201.66.3) |
| 11:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1501] by debhelper |
| 11:59.12 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 12:00.16 | *** join/#debian kus (~kus@pool-96-234-34-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:00.51 | *** join/#debian kus (~kus@pool-96-234-34-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:00.58 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 12:01.08 | *** join/#debian Ericounet (~Ericounet@2a01:e0a:54:c220:5087:db7c:8e59:f1e0) |
| 12:05.32 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:06.15 | *** join/#debian fred1807 (~fred1807@191.177.186.176) |
| 12:06.27 | fred1807 | I just installed avahi daemon, and edited /etc/hostname to the name I want to reach via myhostname.local . Question is, should I edit any line at /etc/hosts? should I change: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost to 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain myhsotname ? I found this on a guide, but I guess I should just leave 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ?? |
| 12:06.39 | grandfso | Hi, can I you run seperate web service on multiple subdomains, each subdomain mapped to different IP, from one Server? |
| 12:08.20 | *** join/#debian GenteelBen (~GenteelBe@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 12:10.43 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 12:12.26 | gpunk | grandfso: you create virtualhosts yes |
| 12:12.43 | gpunk | in one webserver |
| 12:13.37 | Iridos | it's a bit unusual that they all have different IPs, though |
| 12:13.46 | Emil | What package does the man page for find come from? |
| 12:14.51 | Iridos | findutils, as does find? |
| 12:15.02 | Emil | I have find :D |
| 12:15.05 | Emil | just not the man page for it |
| 12:15.27 | kopper | Emil that's weird |
| 12:16.08 | grandfso | I mean not all will have different IP's, I generalized because as of now I have no cloue how to serve anything from another IP :) |
| 12:16.14 | grandfso | clue* |
| 12:16.19 | *** join/#debian cruncher (~cruncher@gateway/tor-sasl/cruncher) |
| 12:16.29 | kopper | Do you have manpages and man-db? |
| 12:16.33 | gpunk | grandfso: it s inside the declaration of your virtualhost |
| 12:17.09 | gpunk | https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/vhosts/examples.html |
| 12:17.49 | Iridos | grandfso, you would need to set up networking of the machine up to have all those IPs … and that only works if all those IPs are on your subnet |
| 12:18.07 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 12:18.30 | Iridos | you (obviously) cannot serve pages for an ip that another host has |
| 12:18.45 | Emil | kopper: yeah findutils is installed :D |
| 12:18.55 | *** join/#debian bbdgl (~Thunderbi@2a05:a1c7:1:b101:45d7:45c8:2996:7aa1) |
| 12:19.02 | Emil | lets check man-db |
| 12:19.12 | Iridos | Emil, should be /usr/share/man/man1/find.1.gz |
| 12:19.36 | grandfso | gpunk: I don't use Apache (nor any webserver) as of now. Possibly Iridos' suggestion on networking setup is the way to go ? |
| 12:20.14 | Iridos | it's both… the linke gpunk linkes also says "The server has two IP addresses" for the example with virtualhosts on different ip addresses |
| 12:20.35 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (~MrSmurf@unaffiliated/mrsmurf) |
| 12:20.43 | Iridos | I think it's just much easier to run multiple virtual hosts on the same IP |
| 12:20.44 | grandfso | I'm learning, starting with just an empty Debian box, and two public IP addresses allocated to it |
| 12:20.57 | Emil | installing man-db fixed it |
| 12:21.16 | *** join/#debian bbdgl (~Thunderbi@2a05:a1c7:1:b101:45d7:45c8:2996:7aa1) |
| 12:21.21 | Emil | grandfso: where'd you get two public ips? |
| 12:21.25 | Emil | what provider? |
| 12:21.29 | Emil | how much? :D |
| 12:21.35 | grandfso | AWS |
| 12:21.36 | grandfso | :) |
| 12:21.39 | Emil | ah |
| 12:21.42 | Emil | expensive af |
| 12:21.59 | *** join/#debian dougmencken (~powermac@unaffiliated/dougmencken) |
| 12:22.04 | grandfso | True :) |
| 12:22.24 | Emil | thank's kopper |
| 12:22.27 | Emil | thanks* |
| 12:22.34 | dougmencken | hola guys, is it true that debian ditched powerpc support except for huge ibm little endian ones? |
| 12:23.45 | dougmencken | at the same time still supporting mips |
| 12:23.46 | *** join/#debian bbdgl (~Thunderbi@2a05:a1c7:1:b101:45d7:45c8:2996:7aa1) |
| 12:24.36 | *** join/#debian chrios_ (~chris@C-59-101-255-244.bur.connect.net.au) |
| 12:27.43 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 12:28.01 | *** join/#debian aphotica (~aphotica@2605:6000:3b84:7000:d5b8:f908:bd2a:aa21) |
| 12:28.44 | Iridos | dpkg, powerpc |
| 12:28.45 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <macsound>, <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:28.51 | *** join/#debian bbdgl (~Thunderbi@2a05:a1c7:1:b101:45d7:45c8:2996:7aa1) |
| 12:28.58 | *** join/#debian DalekSec (unit193@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.unit193) |
| 12:33.35 | *** join/#debian cyborg-one (~cyborg-on@37.203.7.105) |
| 12:38.37 | *** join/#debian fosonmeng (~fosonmeng@112.3.32.206) |
| 12:38.42 | *** join/#debian LioneLL (~Pidgin@men13-2-82-224-174-71.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:39.17 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 12:39.31 | *** part/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 12:41.30 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 12:42.29 | *** join/#debian m0j0dj0dj0 (~punk3r@unaffiliated/m0j0dj0dj0) |
| 12:45.28 | *** join/#debian Rhaal (~Rhaal@host158-74-dynamic.250-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:46.46 | *** join/#debian Vizva (~Vizva@gateway/tor-sasl/vizva) |
| 12:47.58 | kopper | Emil: Np, glad to hear it worked. |
| 12:57.32 | *** join/#debian samkod (~samkod@unaffiliated/samkod) |
| 12:58.28 | samkod | is anyone out there having an issue with thunderbird opening links in chromium on stretch? this has been happening now for about 2 months and I can't find anything recent on the net regarding this |
| 12:58.53 | samkod | I've tried purging both chromium and thunderbird, reinstalling and creating new profiles and nothing seems to work |
| 12:58.54 | petn-randall | samkod: What is the issue exactly? |
| 12:59.14 | petn-randall | samkod: It's *not* opening the links, or it's opening them in chromium instead of something else? |
| 13:00.00 | samkod | so when i click a link in thunderbird it never opens it at all. it should open it in chromium. when i run tb from the terminal and click a link i get the the following error: |
| 13:00.56 | samkod | https://pastebin.com/0E8fPtvy |
| 13:02.37 | petn-randall | samkod: I'm only aware of such an issue in *testing*, where it's caused by a too strict apparmor profile. There apparmor is enabled by default. Are you using apparmor by chance? |
| 13:03.34 | samkod | hmm strange. i'm on stable and apparmor is disabled |
| 13:04.17 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 13:04.58 | *** join/#debian fosonmeng_ (~fosonmeng@112.3.32.254) |
| 13:05.32 | *** join/#debian fosonmeng_ (~fosonmeng@112.3.32.254) |
| 13:06.23 | samkod | oh wait...tb is in enforce mode |
| 13:07.08 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 13:07.28 | *** join/#debian nic_ (~nic@190.175.28.153) |
| 13:10.06 | *** join/#debian nic_ (~nic@190.175.28.153) |
| 13:10.11 | petn-randall | Aha! |
| 13:10.23 | *** join/#debian torrezno3 (~torrezno@gateway/tor-sasl/sharker) |
| 13:10.48 | samkod | i am using the latest backported kernel too..would that be the culprit? |
| 13:13.32 | *** join/#debian hwdyki (~hwdyki@unaffiliated/hwdyki) |
| 13:17.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1492] by debhelper |
| 13:17.55 | hwdyki | my monitor would not display anything when it's turned on after the computer boots. the monitor does not sense any HDMI signal coming in. |
| 13:18.26 | hwdyki | how can i avoid this? i'm using this box as a kodibox running deb9. |
| 13:18.50 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (~MrSmurf@unaffiliated/mrsmurf) |
| 13:20.07 | *** join/#debian goatish (~textual@CPE64777ddc2493-CM64777ddc2490.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 13:20.31 | toolz | petn-randall: do you have any idea why is the system not partitioning the sizes I want? For example I wanted my swap 32GB and during installation I partitioned lvms as 32768M swap, and the rest as root. But my swap is 30.5G and the rest root |
| 13:21.11 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@pC19F28DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:22.44 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 13:24.57 | petn-randall | toolz: 32 GB != 32 GiB |
| 13:24.57 | *** join/#debian Sepultura (~Sepultura@unaffiliated/sepultura) |
| 13:25.00 | Sepultura | Hallo |
| 13:25.07 | petn-randall | hi Sepultura |
| 13:25.27 | Sepultura | why is Debian not installing on GPT in BIOS mode? FreeBSD, Arch Linux are able to do it ;) |
| 13:25.47 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 13:25.49 | petn-randall | Sepultura: You can if you select it in the installer. |
| 13:26.07 | petn-randall | Sepultura: You might need to choose the expert option, though. |
| 13:26.23 | *** join/#debian deepin (~deepin@5.34.93.175) |
| 13:27.11 | deepin | @adc & |
| 13:27.45 | toolz | petn-randall: so during the installer I have to specify what exactly? If I specified 32768MB isnt that 32GB? |
| 13:29.31 | *** part/#debian dcpc007 (~dcpc007@185.8.252.36) |
| 13:29.35 | nic_ | stupid question, i know, when I install i386 libraries, what happens to the amd64 libraries? do they get overwritten/deprecated? |
| 13:30.04 | petn-randall | toolz: One Megabyte can be either 1,000,000 byte, or 1,048,576 byte, depending on who you ask. |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 13:30.43 | BanHammor | calculation tells me the installer used decimal megabytes |
| 13:30.45 | toolz | petn-randall: so is debian 9 showing the lvm partitions as GiB ? |
| 13:30.57 | tarzeau | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32-loader the domain is gone! www.goodbye-microsoft.com two weeks ago it still worked, and save me! |
| 13:31.03 | tarzeau | but now it's no more? |
| 13:31.54 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 13:31.58 | petn-randall | tarzeau: ... and that is related to Debian support how exactly? |
| 13:32.03 | *** join/#debian Elirips (~Elirips@178.22.109.242) |
| 13:32.13 | tarzeau | petn-randall: i want to install debian again, from windows |
| 13:32.15 | tarzeau | but the url broke |
| 13:32.23 | toolz | according to an calculator, yes, it shows GiB, thats why I see 30.5 |
| 13:32.55 | toolz | 32768MB = 30.517578125GiB |
| 13:33.09 | Iridos | nic_, nothing… they are in different paths |
| 13:33.24 | nic_ | thank you Iridos |
| 13:33.32 | toolz | sheesh |
| 13:33.33 | nic_ | u my boy |
| 13:34.04 | petn-randall | tarzeau: You can always just use the method documented in the release notes. |
| 13:35.41 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at) |
| 13:37.24 | alkisg | tarzeau: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/stable/ |
| 13:38.50 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 13:38.51 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 13:39.26 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 13:39.58 | *** join/#debian LtL (~ltl@unaffiliated/ltl) |
| 13:41.40 | aphotica | anyone know a good way to trim packages you don't need from debian? |
| 13:42.28 | Brigo | aphotica, deborphan, i think |
| 13:42.38 | *** join/#debian xormor (~xormor@unaffiliated/xormor) |
| 13:42.43 | *** join/#debian e14 (~e14@2601:184:4180:da74:618b:dbdb:a4c5:5cce) |
| 13:42.48 | Brigo | or debfoster better. |
| 13:44.34 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@47.185.207.134) |
| 13:44.40 | *** join/#debian Voovode (~Alex@webaccess1.hq.purplewifi.net) |
| 13:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1501] by debhelper |
| 13:47.02 | aphotica | Ty, I appreciate it |
| 13:51.25 | *** join/#debian BluesKaj (~Blues@unaffiliated/blueskaj) |
| 13:56.49 | *** join/#debian qba73 (~qba73@62.17.146.144) |
| 13:57.41 | toolz | this is weird that the system actually showing GiB instead of GB, since the installer configures in MB and GB.. :/ |
| 13:58.05 | kidnextdoor | guys whats wrong with my codeblocks in debian |
| 13:58.09 | kidnextdoor | ?? |
| 13:58.17 | kidnextdoor | is completely bugged |
| 13:58.25 | petn-randall | !context |
| 13:58.25 | dpkg | Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net. |
| 13:58.33 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: ^^^ |
| 13:58.57 | kidnextdoor | seriously |
| 13:59.01 | kidnextdoor | i need this |
| 13:59.10 | kidnextdoor | change ide? |
| 13:59.11 | toolz | petn-randall: why is the system showing GiB instead of GB?! As it did till now? I have no idea, just asking... might look like a stupid question but.. :) |
| 13:59.30 | kidnextdoor | i like codeblocks dudes, to when some update or something? |
| 13:59.54 | SKiTZO | GiB is the correct name for Gibi bytes, which is equal to 1024^3 |
| 14:00.00 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: Start by adding context, nobody knows what you're talking about. |
| 14:00.20 | kidnextdoor | codeblocks seems to be the only piece of software completely meesed up in my debian installation |
| 14:00.23 | petn-randall | !doesnt work |
| 14:00.23 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 14:00.26 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: ^^^ |
| 14:00.27 | SKiTZO | GB is the correct name for giga bytes wich is equal to 1000^3 bytes |
| 14:00.42 | kidnextdoor | they have version 17, inst stable 17? |
| 14:01.05 | toolz | SKiTZO: I saw what it is, but why are my partitions in GiB and not in GB anymore in debian 9 as they were all the time before? What made this change? |
| 14:01.17 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~kanotix@cpe-24-194-198-94.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 14:01.45 | SKiTZO | Because everyone remotely interrested in computers like GiB better than GB, so everyone is moving towards showing that instead |
| 14:02.15 | SKiTZO | before GiB was invented GB could mean both, creating confusion |
| 14:02.48 | petn-randall | toolz: Most HDD manufacturers use 10^6 for mega-, because then the numbers look bigger. Most programmers think this is stupid and tend to use 2^20 as mega-, however to prevent confusion many HDD-related tools still use the 10^6, though it doesn't really help. |
| 14:03.15 | SKiTZO | GiB was invented by EEE. It is a standard that is slowly but steadily being adopted |
| 14:03.16 | SKiTZO | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541-2002 |
| 14:03.33 | toolz | I see, whatever, I dont mind :) |
| 14:04.04 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: You're still failing at describing your problem. What problem are you seeing with codeblocks from Debian stable? |
| 14:05.08 | kidnextdoor | sometimes, when opening a file or project inside codeblocks, the entire file system disapears i cant select files neither see folders, other times i create a new file and i cant type, its blank, cant select nothing inside it |
| 14:05.45 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hazqqylxuxivoeca) |
| 14:05.50 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 14:05.56 | kidnextdoor | the second time i close a project inside codeblocks, the entire program closes, not only the project |
| 14:06.15 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: Can you paste the output of 'apt-cache policy' and 'apt-cache policy codeblocks' to https://paste.debian.net? |
| 14:06.42 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: Also, please run the program from the commandline, get it to crash, and paste all the output to that paste site, too. |
| 14:07.19 | kidnextdoor | oh man, this was not what i came here to do |
| 14:07.45 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: Well, if you didn't come here for help, you joined the wrong channel. |
| 14:07.52 | kidnextdoor | is this those kinda of licenses you must help by force? |
| 14:08.28 | kidnextdoor | i was expecting to get some info about this problem, what is it, if its gona be fixed |
| 14:09.04 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 14:09.18 | petn-randall | kidnextdoor: Let us know when you got that paste ready. |
| 14:12.54 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 14:14.01 | *** join/#debian shtrb (~shtrb@unaffiliated/shtrb) |
| 14:14.52 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 14:16.30 | *** join/#debian aphotica (~aphotica@2605:6000:3b84:7000:1d9e:3ef4:19d:5ee8) |
| 14:22.06 | *** join/#debian mbnt (~mbnt@toroon0952w-lp140-03-70-24-51-105.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 14:22.17 | mbnt | hello, anyone here use kxstudios? |
| 14:22.27 | mbnt | kxstudios appears to be down |
| 14:22.55 | mbnt | kxstudios is an unofficial debian repository for linux audio software |
| 14:29.33 | petn-randall | mbnt: That repo is not affiliated with Debian, you'll have to ask the kxstudio authors what happened there. |
| 14:30.33 | *** join/#debian JohnnyTheSmith (~Thunderbi@ptline1.syss.de) |
| 14:30.39 | mbnt | petn-randall, Notice how i said 'unofficial', and notice how I asked if anyone used them? |
| 14:30.47 | JohnnyTheSmith | Is anybody willing to help me with udev related problem? |
| 14:32.25 | *** join/#debian setty (~setty@unaffiliated/setty) |
| 14:34.32 | shtrb | mbnt, sf.net/projects/kxstudio ? |
| 14:35.37 | *** join/#debian benoliver999 (~benoliver@fsf/member/benoliver999) |
| 14:37.46 | *** join/#debian Evol (~no@191.190.201.227) |
| 14:39.06 | *** join/#debian DocHopper (~DocHopper@unaffiliated/dochopper) |
| 14:39.41 | mbnt | shtrb, yep |
| 14:40.16 | shtrb | it' up |
| 14:40.30 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: If you ask your actual question, someone knowing the answer can respond. |
| 14:41.33 | mbnt | shtrb, oh no, I mean the actual site, not sourceforge |
| 14:41.40 | *** join/#debian Raed|Mobile (~Raed@2607:fb90:e9e:8811:ceb1:a248:746a:b513) |
| 14:41.43 | *** join/#debian mns` (~devuan@201.16.237.10) |
| 14:42.00 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@host81-130-206-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 14:43.50 | JohnnyTheSmith | 3:42:23 PM - JohnnyTheSmith: Okay I try some details although you guys don't wanna help in the first place. Using a yubikey I log in to my session 2fa. I did this using with the yubikey library and pamd. Now I want my session to lock every time I remove the yubikey. Writing a rule 85.yubikey.rules with the following content: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ACTION=="remove", ENV{ID_VENDOR_ID}="1050", ENV{ID_MODEL_ID}="0407", ENV{ID_SERIAL_SHORT}="omitted", RUN+ |
| 14:43.50 | JohnnyTheSmith | /tmp/test". Triggering this |
| 14:43.50 | JohnnyTheSmith | 3:42:23 PM - JohnnyTheSmith: command in root context results in a test getting written to /tmp/test (following with tail -f) but removing the yubikey doesn't write anything into the file. Testing with udevadm test --action=remove /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1 results in (just an exerpt): RUN 'echo test >> /tmp/test' /etc/udev […] so actually it should execute but it doesn't |
| 14:44.02 | *** join/#debian rhaal_ (~Rhaal@host158-74-dynamic.250-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:44.07 | JohnnyTheSmith | ignore the first sentence. just a paste from another channel |
| 14:44.44 | petn-randall | !crosspost |
| 14:44.44 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
| 14:45.21 | *** join/#debian crn (~crn@108.226.33.225) |
| 14:45.22 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: You might want to wait a bit before others respond in the other channel, otherwise you'll have a mess when both channels try to support you with your problem but have different approaches. |
| 14:45.24 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 14:45.32 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: IRC is sloooow, just be patient. |
| 14:45.38 | JohnnyTheSmith | well that makes perfect sense |
| 14:47.10 | *** join/#debian warai_otoko (~warai_oto@p5DC944CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:47.49 | *** join/#debian snf_gh (~snf_gh@95.155.114.211) |
| 14:49.13 | JohnnyTheSmith | Well other channel is not helping me and sent me here |
| 14:49.44 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: What's the other channel? |
| 14:50.14 | JohnnyTheSmith | #kali-linux |
| 14:50.24 | JohnnyTheSmith | that's actually what I am using right now |
| 14:50.48 | petn-randall | !kali |
| 14:50.49 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 14:51.20 | JohnnyTheSmith | You are trying to say that I will have to ask them, don't you? |
| 14:51.21 | *** join/#debian Mrloafbot_ (mrloafbot@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/mrloafbot/x-21948472) |
| 14:51.36 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: In that case it's offtopic in here, because Kali does things differently than Debian does. You might also tell them that they should support their own users instead of sending them away. |
| 14:51.40 | JohnnyTheSmith | And they tell me it's not a kali related issue |
| 14:52.18 | JohnnyTheSmith | You know what? You guys (including them in #kali-linux) are just a bunch of fucking morons all together. |
| 14:52.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o petn-randall] by ChanServ |
| 14:52.28 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@ptline1.syss.de] by petn-randall |
| 14:52.28 | *** mode/#debian [-o petn-randall] by petn-randall |
| 14:53.10 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: I've told you to take your issue in their support channel. If the Kali support channel doesn't want to support *their* users, you might want to consider using a distro that does. |
| 14:54.02 | petn-randall | JohnnyTheSmith: I can only say that Kali is based off some snapshot of Debian testing, so those package versions don't even *exist* in Debian anymore. So it would only be frustrating for everyone to attempt supporting you in here. |
| 14:54.03 | shtrb | JohnnyTheSmith, move to debian and you could get support here |
| 14:54.42 | *** part/#debian JohnnyTheSmith (~Thunderbi@ptline1.syss.de) |
| 14:54.59 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@27.47.11.183) |
| 14:56.18 | *** join/#debian seiburii (~seiburii@host-92-18-209-245.as13285.net) |
| 14:56.30 | seiburii | hello all |
| 14:56.39 | petn-randall | hi seiburii |
| 14:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1507] by debhelper |
| 14:58.58 | *** join/#debian misty5 (~pokemongi@gateway/tor-sasl/pokemongirl) |
| 15:00.34 | seiburii | Any help appreciated - I currently have a debian jessie armhf rootfs which can boot on tablet device which has been provided on xda. I am attempting to mimic this in creating a ubuntu armhf rootfs which can be natively booted. |
| 15:00.54 | seiburii | is it possible to copy kernel and modules between debian and ubuntu? |
| 15:01.29 | petn-randall | seiburii: Not really, they use different versions of things, and sometimes different tools. |
| 15:01.31 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 15:01.56 | shtrb | seiburii, use debian |
| 15:02.45 | shtrb | If possible you may be able to use the current mirrors for armhf and not to relay on xda |
| 15:03.27 | *** join/#debian aielima (~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima) |
| 15:06.55 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@189.90.160.121) |
| 15:08.32 | *** join/#debian Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@unaffiliated/nefertiti) |
| 15:09.09 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 15:09.35 | seiburii | shtrb - thanks for the advice. I was wondeing then how to fully recreate this rootfs found on xda, and the creator provided steps on how to compile the kernel (ElementalX5). However I get an error message when attempting to do so. |
| 15:11.04 | shtrb | Some debian mirrors already have armhf (so you will have everything ready for you) |
| 15:11.19 | fasdfd | Why is there tracking enabled in firefox on debian? I see loads of connections to trackers in background behind-the-scene. |
| 15:11.27 | fasdfd | Isn't this against FOSS? |
| 15:11.42 | shtrb | fasdfd, open a bug |
| 15:11.57 | shtrb | it's is not against FOSS , but it is against Privacy |
| 15:12.01 | petn-randall | fasdfd: FOSS says nothing about tracking. Have you enabled it in the settings? |
| 15:12.19 | busch | Using tcpdump for outgoing network packets, is it "guaranteed" that the packets I see are leaving the physical network interface or could the be an ACL, firewall rule etc. that could be "behind" my tcpdump? |
| 15:12.20 | *** join/#debian m0j0dj0dj0 (~punk3r@unaffiliated/m0j0dj0dj0) |
| 15:12.36 | shtrb | petn-randall, I know what he is talking about, default non esr version are filled with "features" |
| 15:12.42 | shtrb | you need to disable it |
| 15:13.02 | shtrb | seiburii, choose one from https://www.debian.org/mirror/list-full |
| 15:13.10 | petn-randall | shtrb: There is no non-ESR version in stable. |
| 15:13.50 | petn-randall | busch: IIRC tcpdump just sees what enters the networking stack, iptables might still drop it. |
| 15:14.05 | *** join/#debian lucad111 (~lucad111@linaro/lucad111) |
| 15:16.15 | petn-randall | busch: And also the other way around. You can see incoming packets in tcpdump that might never reach the application. |
| 15:16.50 | *** join/#debian holden- (~holden-@unaffiliated/holden-) |
| 15:17.33 | *** join/#debian fujisan (uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lnbpifofoxlojmhn) |
| 15:18.02 | *** join/#debian cruncher (~cruncher@gateway/tor-sasl/cruncher) |
| 15:20.04 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:20.49 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 15:22.10 | *** join/#debian a_duck (~danke@91.207.110.20) |
| 15:23.14 | *** join/#debian Crash (~Crash@dclabs/researcher/crash) |
| 15:23.32 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 15:23.49 | *** join/#debian EoflaOE (2e355056@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.53.80.86) |
| 15:24.39 | Crash | debhelper, ping |
| 15:25.24 | *** join/#debian pav (~pav@m77-216-124-194.cust.tele2.hr) |
| 15:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1514] by debhelper |
| 15:27.17 | *** join/#debian conta (~Thunderbi@94.112.251.98.static.b2b.upcbusiness.cz) |
| 15:28.54 | *** join/#debian AvatarA (~avatara@unaffiliated/avatara) |
| 15:29.26 | *** join/#debian hidari (~hidari@ip98-165-117-137.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:30.58 | *** join/#debian Kyokushin (~Kyokushin@S0106306023d63175.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 15:32.14 | *** join/#debian blitzed (~blitzed@96.44.134.149) |
| 15:32.59 | *** join/#debian wyre (wyre@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-dbvjjxvfamklkzod) |
| 15:33.02 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@gateway/tor-sasl/pos) |
| 15:33.53 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ckpcxlnwzukjqsbs) |
| 15:34.14 | *** join/#debian zarzar (~zarzar@vpn.noregon.com) |
| 15:34.55 | *** join/#debian rkta (~kt@p5B067EEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:36.18 | *** join/#debian Noldorin (~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin) |
| 15:36.32 | *** join/#debian EoflaOE (~EoflaOE@46.53.80.86) |
| 15:37.42 | *** join/#debian ChmEarl (~chmearl@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 15:38.33 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 15:39.05 | *** join/#debian rsx (~rsx@ppp-46-244-240-29.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 15:39.33 | DammitJim | is there a command that can tell me what is hooked up to what PCI slot? |
| 15:39.40 | tw | lspci |
| 15:40.00 | tw | But that's in iterated order, not physical order. |
| 15:40.07 | *** join/#debian torrezno3 (~torrezno@gateway/tor-sasl/sharker) |
| 15:40.13 | tw | (these are often the same thing) |
| 15:40.35 | *** join/#debian HarveyPwca (~HarveyPwc@ip-64-134-173-72.public.wayport.net) |
| 15:40.44 | DammitJim | so, I see this for my video card (I want to know what kind of PCI slot it's using: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce GT 120] (rev a1) |
| 15:41.28 | *** join/#debian A2666 (~A2666@99.196.234.161) |
| 15:41.37 | *** join/#debian Raed|Mobile (~Raed@2607:fb90:292e:9186:9648:1b49:57a4:11a) |
| 15:42.30 | *** join/#debian qba73 (~qba73@62.17.146.144) |
| 15:42.35 | *** join/#debian fakefur (~fakefur@p548FF61A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:42.58 | fakefur | is there any indication when the updated certbot package will be added to stretch? |
| 15:43.06 | fakefur | the current one has stopped working |
| 15:43.17 | petn-randall | DammitJim: Do you want to know the PCI *speed*? lspci -vv should show that. |
| 15:43.24 | petn-randall | ,v certbot |
| 15:43.25 | judd | Package: certbot on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 0.10.2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.10.2-1; stretch-backports: 0.19.0-1~bpo9+1; buster: 0.20.0-3; sid: 0.20.0-3 |
| 15:43.50 | fakefur | judd, yes thanks but any idea WHEN it will make it into stretch? |
| 15:43.52 | petn-randall | fakefur: What exactly stopped working? Letencrypt has disabled some auth methods. |
| 15:44.04 | DammitJim | petn-randall, I want to know what slow I have available to add a card (without opening the server) |
| 15:44.09 | fakefur | petn-randall, yes and when i try to add a cert for a new site i get an error |
| 15:44.22 | fakefur | and the fix is to upgrade certbot |
| 15:44.30 | fakefur | but the new version isn't in stretch yet |
| 15:44.41 | DammitJim | I know I have an NVIDIA card and I want to use what slot it is using. That could tell me what other slots are available and then I can order a USB3 card if the slow supports the speed |
| 15:44.41 | fakefur | so i was asking if anyone knew when that might happen |
| 15:45.12 | petn-randall | fakefur: *what* error? I'm using certbot from stable fine. |
| 15:45.52 | fakefur | Client with the currently selected authenticator does not support any combination of challenges that will satisfy the CA. |
| 15:45.55 | *** join/#debian vahe (~vahe@unaffiliated/vahe) |
| 15:46.03 | fakefur | the solution is to upgrade |
| 15:46.08 | fakefur | but... and so on |
| 15:46.48 | petn-randall | fakefur: You can either try certbot from backports, or use a supported challenge. |
| 15:47.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1526] by debhelper |
| 15:47.06 | fakefur | the recommended solution is to upgrade |
| 15:47.08 | *** join/#debian greycat (~wooledg@139.137.128.43) |
| 15:47.24 | fakefur | https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/solution-client-with-the-currently-selected-authenticator-does-not-support-any-combination-of-challenges-that-will-satisfy-the-ca/49983 |
| 15:47.28 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 15:47.50 | *** join/#debian sudhackar__ (~sudhackar@122.169.99.101) |
| 15:47.54 | *** join/#debian wpostma2 (~wpostma@d142-179-76-173.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 15:47.59 | *** join/#debian xqb (~xqb@gateway/tor-sasl/xqb) |
| 15:48.17 | *** join/#debian aielima (~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima) |
| 15:48.18 | *** join/#debian acidtripper (~acidtripp@unaffiliated/acidtripper) |
| 15:48.49 | alkisg | DammitJim: which motherboard? |
| 15:48.54 | petn-randall | fakefur: TLS-SNI-01 is only one of *many* challenges supported. Just use one of the others. |
| 15:49.14 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 15:49.31 | tw | Anybody using sierra wireless EM7455 or MC7455 with debian? From what I can tell, all of the kernel support is there, but the userland might be iffy. |
| 15:50.01 | tw | it's a pcie wwan module |
| 15:50.39 | tw | I want to buy one, but I don't want to get tied to a contract I can't use. |
| 15:53.29 | *** join/#debian Ericounet (~Ericounet@2a01:e0a:54:c220:e088:d7de:1f1d:62bc) |
| 15:55.10 | DammitJim | alkisg, what command can tell me the motherboard I have? |
| 15:55.22 | DammitJim | I know it's an XPS420 (I'm looking at the specs online as well) |
| 15:55.48 | alkisg | DammitJim: lshw shows the name of the board |
| 15:55.58 | petn-randall | DammitJim: 'lshw' often also gives you the vendor string, which often correlates with the model and make. |
| 15:56.11 | tw | dmidecode may also help, but it's not as nice to work with. |
| 15:56.29 | shtrb | DammitJim, you can also dmidecode |
| 15:56.57 | DammitJim | yeah, I was looking at dmidecode |
| 15:57.34 | DammitJim | what on dmidecode? |
| 15:57.45 | DammitJim | I grepped for motherboard and it just showed up in a Location line |
| 15:58.21 | alkisg | Grep for "Product Name" |
| 15:58.50 | fakefur | petn-randall, thanks for the help - got it working :) |
| 15:59.17 | DammitJim | OTP406 |
| 15:59.26 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFE915.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:59.30 | petn-randall | fakefur: You're welcome! :) |
| 15:59.33 | DammitJim | http://www.game-debate.com/motherboard/index.php?mot_id=3352&motherboard=Dell |
| 15:59.38 | tw | as I understand it, tls-sni-01 is the default though, so by default it doesn't work. |
| 16:00.42 | tw | (I've been using http-01 since forever) |
| 16:04.37 | DammitJim | what do you think alkisg ? |
| 16:05.34 | alkisg | DammitJim: googling for Dell 0TP406 shows that it has a lot of slots, so if you're only using one, it has a lot of others free. Not very related to debian though, maybe you could ask also in #hardware. |
| 16:06.00 | tw | DammitJim: why don't you find the hardware manual dell has for your server? |
| 16:06.14 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.166) |
| 16:06.17 | DammitJim | alkisg, the reason I was asking on Debian is because I wanted to know if there was a command to see what cards were connected to what PCI slot |
| 16:06.48 | alkisg | DammitJim: sure; but that won't tell how how many slots are free, or are physically exposed to the board |
| 16:07.02 | DammitJim | oh ok |
| 16:07.06 | DammitJim | that's all I was asking |
| 16:07.09 | alkisg | So you can see the output of lspci, but it won't help you with the problem |
| 16:07.17 | DammitJim | thanks! |
| 16:07.21 | alkisg | dmidecode got you the board name; the rest isn't related to the OS... |
| 16:07.22 | alkisg | np |
| 16:07.25 | *** join/#debian JohnML (~john1@ip-84-118-209-57.unity-media.net) |
| 16:07.43 | DammitJim | earlier someone said: run lspci and that will tell you what slot it's using |
| 16:07.49 | DammitJim | so, that's why I kept asking |
| 16:07.56 | DammitJim | you guys are awesome, though! |
| 16:08.01 | alkisg | Of course, this is what you asked for, but it doesn't help you :) |
| 16:08.05 | DammitJim | I learned about grepping for PRoduct Name |
| 16:09.17 | *** join/#debian annadane (~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-01-69-156-34-138.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 16:09.49 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 16:11.05 | *** join/#debian kallesbar (~kapa@192.130.252.77) |
| 16:11.30 | *** join/#debian uxfi (~uxfi@unaffiliated/uxfi) |
| 16:12.05 | *** join/#debian JohnML (~john1@ip-84-118-209-57.unity-media.net) |
| 16:15.40 | *** join/#debian Gaaab (~Gaaab@95.233.165.118) |
| 16:17.02 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@reriding.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 16:18.46 | *** join/#debian mibo (~mibo@ip-89-102-231-245.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 16:18.50 | *** join/#debian user0 (~user0@194.87.111.28) |
| 16:19.24 | user0 | Hello, what root folder i need to exclude in system backup ? |
| 16:19.47 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 16:20.04 | *** join/#debian brontosaurusrex (~ticho@unaffiliated/brontosaurusrex) |
| 16:20.08 | user0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.17 | *** join/#debian kion (~kion@unaffiliated/kion) |
| 16:21.33 | greycat | I mean, it's up to you. It's your backup. Maybe you want to exclude /sys too? |
| 16:22.42 | user0 | greycat: what is in sys ? |
| 16:22.56 | greycat | Kernel stuff. |
| 16:23.36 | alkisg | man rsync==>"--one-file-system". If you use that, you don't need to exclude dirs. Otherwise, maybe also exclude /run. |
| 16:23.58 | greycat | *nod* |
| 16:24.11 | greycat | All those in-memory pseudo file systems. |
| 16:24.16 | user0 | greycat: i know i need backup /etc/ /opt/ */bin */sbin and all folder for dpkg and apt |
| 16:24.31 | greycat | The most important things to back up on most computers are /etc and home. |
| 16:24.59 | greycat | The LEAST important things to back up are /bin and /sbin because those are just files that come from packages that will be there when you reinstall the OS. |
| 16:25.13 | Iridos | dpkg, things to backup |
| 16:25.13 | dpkg | Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ... |
| 16:25.35 | Iridos | mmh |
| 16:25.55 | user0 | i need /var |
| 16:26.00 | user0 | but not /var/run |
| 16:26.23 | greycat | Are you backing up onto very small media? Is this why you're being so picky? |
| 16:26.23 | alkisg | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.44 | user0 | I'm backing up to the same disk as the system |
| 16:26.47 | user0 | local backup |
| 16:26.51 | greycat | how is that a backup? |
| 16:28.08 | user0 | I did a wrong backup through ssh and lost all my data so i want to do a local backup for now |
| 16:28.09 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 16:28.47 | greycat | OK, as long as you realize that this only protects you from a limited subset of human actions, and NOT from hardware failures. |
| 16:29.01 | user0 | I know this |
| 16:29.25 | greycat | Count how many file systems you have that you want to back up, and how big they are. Create an equal number of backup versions of those same file systems, the same sizes. Set up a cron job to rsync them all. |
| 16:29.58 | user0 | My provider if they are serious should use some raid i think |
| 16:29.59 | greycat | At this point it is not about "excluding" anything. You just back up each file system, one at a time. Inclusion. |
| 16:30.18 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@unaffiliated/mtn) |
| 16:30.20 | greycat | your... what... this isn't a "local" system but you call this a "local backup"? |
| 16:30.36 | user0 | i need to create a backup on the machine i'm running on |
| 16:30.46 | greycat | which is NOT local despite your use of the word "local" |
| 16:30.49 | *** join/#debian acidtripper (~acidtripp@unaffiliated/acidtripper) |
| 16:30.50 | brw | you just need a mirrored copy of the data? |
| 16:30.53 | greycat | it's a remote server of some kind? no physical access? |
| 16:31.05 | brw | what's the end game with the "backup" ? |
| 16:31.10 | user0 | greycat: remoteserver yes |
| 16:31.18 | JustASlacker | a local remote |
| 16:31.40 | JustASlacker | as opposed to a remote local |
| 16:31.50 | JustASlacker | hides |
| 16:32.37 | user0 | If dpkg crash i want to restore everythink |
| 16:32.47 | greycat | wut |
| 16:32.54 | user0 | I installed proxmox and it makes my dpkg crashing |
| 16:33.01 | greycat | !proxmox |
| 16:33.01 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 16:33.08 | greycat | Bye! |
| 16:33.45 | user0 | i don't want to install proxmox on a virtual server for now |
| 16:34.32 | user0 | Well thank you for help i will play with tar to create my backup bye. |
| 16:34.48 | *** join/#debian qba73 (~qba73@62.17.146.144) |
| 16:35.39 | brw | urg. |
| 16:35.42 | JustASlacker | that was fun |
| 16:36.06 | brw | Tape Backup, FTW. |
| 16:36.13 | Megaf | folks, whats the proper spelling for this? find -iname map.sqlite -exec "du -k" ; |
| 16:36.22 | *** join/#debian fekir (~fekir@ipservice-092-219-030-195.092.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 16:36.32 | JustASlacker | find -iname "map.sqlite" -exec "du -k" ; |
| 16:36.35 | Megaf | I want to know the size in KB of every file called map.sqlite |
| 16:36.42 | greycat | find . -name map.sqlist -exec du -k {} + |
| 16:36.45 | tw | or -ls |
| 16:36.56 | JustASlacker | or -printf something |
| 16:36.57 | tw | find -iname "map.sqlite" -ls |
| 16:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1518] by debhelper |
| 16:37.06 | *** join/#debian f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@unaffiliated/f4cl3y) |
| 16:37.38 | tw | mine's in bytes though, which is not what you asked, sorry. |
| 16:38.32 | Megaf | -ls is interesting, though I see for me it'd be better in MB |
| 16:38.38 | tw | and it also doesn't take into account holes that du would notice. |
| 16:39.09 | greycat | gah, I mangled the filename. |
| 16:39.15 | greycat | find . -name map.sqlite -exec du -k {} + |
| 16:39.20 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:39.43 | *** join/#debian mpo (~quassel@unaffiliated/mpo49) |
| 16:40.11 | tw | ^- this command is exactly what you asked, in kb, on-disk size not reported filesize. |
| 16:41.04 | Megaf | thanks greycat your first command there lead me to find . -name map.sqlite -exec du -ms {} + |
| 16:41.18 | greycat | sure, you can tweak it as needed |
| 16:41.19 | Megaf | which did exactly what I wanted |
| 16:42.11 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 16:43.10 | *** join/#debian kion (~kion@unaffiliated/kion) |
| 16:43.27 | Megaf | Thanks folks |
| 16:43.35 | *** join/#debian mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) |
| 16:43.57 | tw | hopefully you don't have too many of that file. Eventually you will hit the arg limit and it will fork a second copy so summary will break. |
| 16:44.12 | greycat | kinda unavoidable |
| 16:44.41 | *** join/#debian shtrb (~shtrb@unaffiliated/shtrb) |
| 16:44.46 | JustASlacker | find -iname map.sqlite -printf "%p %s" |
| 16:44.50 | JustASlacker | just for completness |
| 16:44.55 | greycat | If you hit that situation you'll have to rewrite the whole thing, probably using perl. |
| 16:45.09 | *** join/#debian sillyotter (~sillyotte@2607:fcc8:d486:7b02:fd15:8c24:605c:ce3b) |
| 16:45.33 | greycat | or something complicated involving awk |
| 16:45.39 | JustASlacker | +1 for awk |
| 16:45.47 | tw | |awk 'BEGIN{sum=0} {sum=sum+$1} END{print sum}' |
| 16:46.17 | JustASlacker | { sum+=$1} should work, no? |
| 16:46.33 | tw | depends on implementation =( |
| 16:46.54 | JustASlacker | shakes head |
| 16:47.00 | greycat | you don't need the BEGIN block either |
| 16:47.14 | JustASlacker | to quote the president: "Sad!" |
| 16:48.49 | *** join/#debian polaris (~polaris_@unaffiliated/polaris/x-3156356) |
| 16:51.08 | tw | for the purposes of #debian, you're both right. Even the busybox implementation takes it. |
| 16:51.24 | *** join/#debian enki (~enki@dynamic-78-30-156-107.adsl.eunet.rs) |
| 16:52.57 | *** join/#debian bbdgl (~Thunderbi@130-226-024-217.ip-addr.vsenet.de) |
| 16:53.00 | *** join/#debian Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 16:53.41 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 16:54.17 | *** join/#debian zennix_ (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 16:54.53 | *** join/#debian MurkySocks (~humbag@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 16:55.27 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 16:56.18 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 16:56.19 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@ptline1.syss.de eir] by eir |
| 16:57.17 | *** join/#debian noobineer (~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:57.35 | JustASlacker | Im sure there is a trump quote for that |
| 16:58.31 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@2a01:c50e:8821:4200:dc57:973:a871:454e) |
| 16:58.34 | *** join/#debian hamersaw (~hamersaw@c-67-174-120-231.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 16:59.07 | BluesKaj | do we care ? |
| 16:59.16 | *** join/#debian vergilzen (~chris@192.96.203.72) |
| 16:59.41 | JustASlacker | I hope not |
| 16:59.49 | *** join/#debian noobineer (~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:00.24 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i5387C00A.versanet.de) |
| 17:00.34 | shtrb | Can someone explain if baloo is going to be replaced ? |
| 17:00.45 | shtrb | sorry wgon channel |
| 17:03.27 | *** join/#debian metxn (~metax@gateway/tor-sasl/metax) |
| 17:04.09 | mpo | Do you guys have a recommendation for usable speech-to-text software? There seems to be plenty software related to the search term "speech" |
| 17:04.26 | *** join/#debian Nh3xus (~Nh3xus@unaffiliated/nh3xus) |
| 17:07.06 | *** join/#debian Quatroking (~Quatrokin@507098BE.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 17:07.57 | tw | For dictation, I don't think there's a usable implementation at this time. |
| 17:08.20 | fasdfd | <petn-randall> I didn't enable tracking in the settings, what it takes is enabling suggestions on the startpage, it bypasses umatrix, even with them disabled it sends data to mozilla tracking service. It's the default debian esr version. |
| 17:08.50 | tw | for developers of voice command apps, cmusphinx is pretty easy to use. |
| 17:09.50 | *** join/#debian qba73 (~qba73@62.17.146.144) |
| 17:11.04 | shtrb | fasdfd, open a bug |
| 17:11.14 | *** join/#debian conta (~Thunderbi@ip-62-245-87-224.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:11.16 | shtrb | I thought it was only in the new versions |
| 17:11.57 | *** join/#debian jazz (~jazz@grichka.groove.nu) |
| 17:14.47 | *** join/#debian sh1ro (~sh1ro@gateway/tor-sasl/sh1ro) |
| 17:15.07 | *** join/#debian RedAcor (~RedAcor@gateway/tor-sasl/redacor) |
| 17:16.05 | *** join/#debian jazz (~jazz@2a03:7220:8081:da02:5e51:4fff:fecc:5254) |
| 17:16.30 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@189.90.160.121) |
| 17:17.14 | mpo | tw, thanks for your input. I was actually looking for a tool for dictation. I'll either have to type all the words, or I'll have to publish a podcast |
| 17:18.17 | tw | mpo: there might be some options using chrome apps. |
| 17:20.01 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@pC19F28DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:20.37 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@189.90.160.121) |
| 17:21.48 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 17:24.08 | *** join/#debian misty5 (~pokemongi@gateway/tor-sasl/pokemongirl) |
| 17:27.39 | *** join/#debian RedAcor (~RedAcor@gateway/tor-sasl/redacor) |
| 17:28.26 | mpo | Yes. unfortunately, I'm one of those who avoid the chrome hype. So, I'll rather keep typing |
| 17:30.07 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 17:30.13 | *** join/#debian Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1) |
| 17:31.30 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-944c262b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:31.52 | *** join/#debian darkhanb (~textual@ip24-253-126-191.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 17:32.07 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 17:34.57 | *** join/#debian password2 (~password@unaffiliated/password2) |
| 17:34.57 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 17:35.00 | *** part/#debian alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) |
| 17:35.33 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.93.175) |
| 17:36.28 | *** join/#debian alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) |
| 17:36.35 | petn-randall | fasdfd: So you want to see suggestions on the startpage ... where do you think they get downloaded from? |
| 17:38.28 | shtrb | mozilla is not that privacy enabling browser anymore |
| 17:39.22 | *** join/#debian f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@unaffiliated/f4cl3y) |
| 17:39.36 | *** join/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-2606-A000-1118-8285-F1D5-BBDC-21C6-B589.dyn6.twc.com) |
| 17:40.14 | *** join/#debian LioneLL (~Pidgin@men13-2-82-224-174-71.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:40.22 | shtrb | fasdfd, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/ |
| 17:41.11 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 17:42.21 | *** join/#debian liquidxd (~liquidxd@ppp046177081012.access.hol.gr) |
| 17:42.40 | *** join/#debian ckur13 (~ckur13@2601:98a:580:9e0f::10e7) |
| 17:49.27 | *** join/#debian mircx1 (~user@unaffiliated/mircx1) |
| 17:52.10 | *** join/#debian dpl (~dpl@37.229.93.215) |
| 17:52.21 | *** join/#debian Crypto (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 17:53.12 | *** join/#debian liquidxd (~liquidxd@ppp046177081012.access.hol.gr) |
| 17:54.49 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87) |
| 17:59.44 | *** join/#debian DrWatson (~DrWatson_@p200300D1F3ED8D59EE43DC7EDBA51CF6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:00.57 | Iridos | shtrb, well… https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-will-delete-firefox-crash-reports-collected-by-accident/ |
| 18:02.41 | *** join/#debian tom[] (~tom]@c-76-119-4-100.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 18:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1510] by debhelper |
| 18:07.20 | *** join/#debian glassresistor (~mikela@unaffiliated/glassresistor) |
| 18:07.49 | glassresistor | any idea when this is going to update to a secure version? i thought it was suppose to happen on the 26th https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr |
| 18:08.06 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 18:08.29 | greycat | firefox-esr was updated to 52.6.0esr-1~deb9u1 last week. |
| 18:11.23 | *** join/#debian t0aster0ven (~iaeofjgsk@gateway/tor-sasl/iaeofjgskjb) |
| 18:12.00 | glassresistor | greycat: hum i thought the [security] flag on the packages page meant it had a current known issue |
| 18:12.11 | *** join/#debian _aeris_ (~aeris@april/board/aeris) |
| 18:13.18 | greycat | On https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firefox-esr I figured it meant "the version we're showing you here is from security.d.o and not yet in the actual point release" |
| 18:13.22 | *** join/#debian liquidxd (~liquidxd@78-14-109.static.cyta.gr) |
| 18:14.38 | *** join/#debian netvor_ (amahdal@nat/redhat/x-yqogsonqvhhxizya) |
| 18:15.11 | *** join/#debian tsglove (~tsglove@12.205.72.46) |
| 18:18.37 | zerocool | on my computer when i am in a chat window and i backspace too many times it'll pizo beep me |
| 18:18.43 | zerocool | how can i say don't use that speaker |
| 18:18.59 | greycat | !bell |
| 18:18.59 | dpkg | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. See also <pcspkr>, <shell beep>, <metacity bell bug>. |
| 18:19.31 | *** join/#debian iresf (bc7a682d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.188.122.104.45) |
| 18:19.45 | iresf | hello everyone |
| 18:20.35 | iresf | mouse suddenly stop in debian 9 any solution for this issue ? |
| 18:21.07 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 18:21.10 | Rusty1 | wired or wireless mouse? |
| 18:21.37 | iresf | wired |
| 18:22.02 | *** join/#debian gpunk (~gpunk@ip-91.net-82-216-134.issy3.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:22.12 | netvor_ | iresf: well, you could look at `sudo dmesg -w` while connecting the mouse |
| 18:22.23 | Iridos | I disabled / unloaded pcspkr |
| 18:22.47 | Iridos | that behavior seems to have changed from jessie -> stretch … to the worse |
| 18:22.56 | *** join/#debian voids (~x@unaffiliated/voids) |
| 18:23.14 | Iridos | at least I could swear that the bell went through pulse and I could tone it down there |
| 18:23.49 | zerocool | dpkg: winr winr chiggen dinner |
| 18:23.49 | dpkg | zerocool: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:23.49 | zerocool | ty |
| 18:23.50 | *** join/#debian mpo (~quassel@unaffiliated/mpo49) |
| 18:23.59 | *** join/#debian Kyokushin (~Kyokushin@S0106306023d63175.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 18:24.09 | petn-randall | zerocool: You're playing to much pubg. |
| 18:24.09 | zerocool | oic |
| 18:24.20 | netvor_ | Iridos: n00b here but isn't that more question of terminal emulator? |
| 18:24.27 | *** join/#debian navlys (~smuxi@ip-78.net-80-236-35.suresnes.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:24.43 | *** join/#debian kion (~kion@unaffiliated/kion) |
| 18:27.20 | netvor_ | I have q about packaging: I have source pkg A, producinv A1 and A2 "binary" packages, where A1 Depends: on A2. I want to make sure they are always under the same version. can I do that? |
| 18:28.09 | netvor_ | under rpm I would use Requires: A2 == %{version}, but is there such macro system in debian/control? |
| 18:28.18 | *** join/#debian arCABAL (~arCABAL@ip565b06f2.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 18:28.56 | iresf | netvor_ : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26496526/ |
| 18:28.59 | netvor_ | also it seems debian/control is somehow free from the concept of version (of package in q) |
| 18:29.30 | *** join/#debian _ADN_ (~username@2a02:c7d:5e18:200:55dd:3820:8e03:fe9f) |
| 18:29.30 | fasdfd | <petn-randall>, as soon as I enabled suggestions there were dozens of requests to all kinds of trackers and no single suggestion appeared, and all that happened even though I block all these trackers with ublock and only allow document root in umatrix. Mozilla is still the best option for privacy, but someone should either make a good doc on how to privacy tweak it or they should do it themselves. Or debian should do it and ship that. |
| 18:29.33 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:30.05 | *** join/#debian gedaj (~gedaj@unaffiliated/gedaj) |
| 18:34.14 | *** join/#debian adds68_ (~adds68@167.98.27.229) |
| 18:34.51 | netvor_ | iresf: https://www.hama.com/00134951/hama-am-8300-optical-mouse-black#technical-details |
| 18:34.56 | Iridos | netvor_, man 5 deb-control … it's not free of versions, you can have terms like Depends: gsfonts (>= 6.0), |
| 18:35.11 | *** join/#debian rkj (~rkj@gar13-5-88-161-22-107.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:35.31 | netvor_ | iresf: I did not find it in linux id list, I'm not sure if it means it's unsupported, though |
| 18:35.34 | Iridos | just specifying package (= 3.2), … should already do what you want |
| 18:36.05 | *** join/#debian wilson (~wilson@unaffiliated/wilson) |
| 18:36.12 | netvor_ | Iridos: sorry i was not precise: I mean, can I specify that without hard-coding the version in? |
| 18:36.51 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 18:37.55 | netvor_ | Iridos: but you pointed me rightly to man deb-*, man deb-substvars seems relevant |
| 18:38.49 | *** join/#debian nic_ (~nic@190.175.28.153) |
| 18:40.03 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-143-226.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 18:40.19 | *** join/#debian doyle (~doyle@surf01.adesa.com) |
| 18:40.25 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 18:40.38 | *** join/#debian wilson (~wilson@unaffiliated/wilson) |
| 18:41.17 | zerocool | anyone quickly know what provides dig? |
| 18:41.36 | netvor_ | `(= ${source:Version})` looks like what I wanted |
| 18:41.38 | *** join/#debian enoch85 (~enoch85@unaffiliated/enoch85) |
| 18:41.52 | zerocool | aL dnstuils |
| 18:45.46 | netvor_ | `(= ${source:Version}` IS what I wanted --- neat, lvl up :) |
| 18:46.39 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 18:47.01 | *** join/#debian navlys (~smuxi@ip-78.net-80-236-35.suresnes.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:47.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1516] by debhelper |
| 18:48.02 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:48.25 | *** join/#debian fax (~fax@unaffiliated/fax) |
| 18:51.22 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:51.50 | *** join/#debian Ilyas (uid43013@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvkdybvxqottwijc) |
| 18:53.56 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:54.37 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 18:56.54 | *** join/#debian Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 18:57.55 | *** join/#debian rcdilorenzo_ (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:00.35 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.31.18) |
| 19:00.45 | *** join/#debian enoch85 (~enoch85@unaffiliated/enoch85) |
| 19:02.13 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:02.48 | *** join/#debian martybr (~martybr@smtp.devzero.nl) |
| 19:02.58 | *** join/#debian azur_kind (~azur_kind@84-75-108-27.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:04.20 | *** join/#debian kd8eyf (~gopher2@d149-67-16-100.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 19:11.37 | ryouma | i have /boot and /root on sdb. i have another drive, sda, which i want to be TOTALLY untouched by any upgrade. what are the chances that upgrading from jessie to stretch will change mbr or anything else on sda? can i prevent this? |
| 19:11.41 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 19:11.54 | ryouma | this is the ONLY thing preventing me from upgrading to stable |
| 19:12.09 | *** join/#debian enoch85 (~enoch85@unaffiliated/enoch85) |
| 19:14.38 | alkisg | ryouma: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, and don't select sda there on the dialog |
| 19:14.57 | alkisg | If you haven't installed grub on sda, it won't be touched |
| 19:15.07 | *** join/#debian nuno_nunes (~PC@a83-132-240-154.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1509] by debhelper |
| 19:17.05 | *** join/#debian inaki (~inaki@186.138.2.103) |
| 19:18.59 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-1-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 19:22.03 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@gateway/tor-sasl/pos) |
| 19:22.17 | *** join/#debian JackK (jack@pdpc/supporter/active/Jkessler) |
| 19:23.25 | *** join/#debian __marco (~marco@185.40.60.78) |
| 19:27.58 | *** join/#debian acidtripper (~acidtripp@unaffiliated/acidtripper) |
| 19:28.17 | somiaj | I don't think the upgrade scripts run grub-install, only update-grub. So I doubt you need to do anything, though as alkisg mentioned you could tell debconf not to install grub, but I don't think that affects upgrade (only intsall) |
| 19:29.18 | *** join/#debian MurkySocks (~humbag@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 19:29.24 | somiaj | ryouma: ^^ |
| 19:30.44 | *** join/#debian doyle_ (~doyle@surf01.adesa.com) |
| 19:32.17 | ryouma | alkisg: i have installed grub on sda, because the entire point of doing so is to have a backup of jessie in case the upgrade goes wrong. but if the upgrade screws up the mbr on sda, then both drives are broken. |
| 19:32.52 | ryouma | somiaj: update-grub only changes the running disk are you saying? |
| 19:33.20 | alkisg | ryouma: you don't have the same uuids on the partitions of sda vs sdb, correct? |
| 19:33.45 | ryouma | alkisg: i don'copy with rsync and then do chroot for the grub and initramfs stuff. i |
| 19:33.50 | somiaj | ryouma: correct, update-grub only updates the grub config in /boot/grub, and won't touch the mbr (like grub-install will) |
| 19:33.51 | ryouma | alkisg: never mind that |
| 19:34.08 | ryouma | alkisg: i don't copy with dd. so i doubt it. |
| 19:34.30 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 19:34.48 | ryouma | somiaj: and the /boot that it updates will only be the drive that i upfated? |
| 19:34.49 | alkisg | ryouma: OK, then it doesn't make sense to install the same grub to both MBRs |
| 19:35.07 | somiaj | ryouma: correct, it will update /boot/grub that is currently mounted. |
| 19:35.22 | alkisg | ryouma: each grub should be installed to its own MBR, e.g. the grub of sdb should go to sdb and the grub copy of sda to sda (using dpkg-reconfigure) |
| 19:35.42 | ryouma | right. but i have foudn that grub often does, and smoetimes on an upgrade. i have even had a case where grub booted from one disk and tehn transferred me to the other disk. :/. this could be user error but i want to prevent all errors. |
| 19:35.52 | alkisg | Otherwise if sdb fails, the sda grub will be trying to load its modules from sdb |
| 19:36.27 | alkisg | One good way to test is: unmount /dev/sda*, and run sudo kvm -m 1024 /dev/sda, andsee if it boots in that VM |
| 19:37.01 | ryouma | i think there is something misleading in the user text for dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc or one of those grub tools. it implies that the user should want to install to all of the drives. but it only makes sense typically to install to only one. |
| 19:37.03 | ryouma | iirc |
| 19:37.29 | alkisg | I don't find it misleading |
| 19:37.46 | alkisg | There are cases you only want to install to one mbr, and cases where you want to install to all of them |
| 19:38.08 | ryouma | you are likely more advanced than i am |
| 19:38.31 | ryouma | 12:36 <alkisg> One good way to test is: unmount /dev/sda*, and run sudo kvm -m 1024 /dev/sda, andsee if it boots in that VM -- what does this do? |
| 19:38.46 | alkisg | Do you know what a virtual machine is? E.g. kvm? |
| 19:39.25 | ryouma | yes but never used kvm because it did not meet my accessibility needs |
| 19:39.37 | alkisg | What are you using? Virtualbox? |
| 19:39.55 | *** join/#debian doyle___ (~doyle@surf01.adesa.com) |
| 19:40.08 | ryouma | i have used it a few times, but setting it up to have decent fonts and to do what i wanted was not trivial and i forget each ttime what i need to do to use it correctly |
| 19:40.21 | alkisg | Anyway, this basically means "put my sda disk to a virtual machine with 1 GB ram and try to boot it" |
| 19:40.47 | alkisg | So that VM then only sees the first disk, and you'll know if it relies on sdb (which won't be accessible from the vm) or not |
| 19:40.47 | ryouma | and it won't harm the disk? |
| 19:41.06 | *** join/#debian ibigolli (~ibigolli@152.249.203.47) |
| 19:41.09 | ryouma | great idea. thank you. |
| 19:41.10 | alkisg | It will be like if you booted sda on your real hardware |
| 19:41.27 | alkisg | So you can update it or do whatever you like there, and changes WILL be written to the disk |
| 19:41.45 | *** join/#debian graytron (~tero@81.197.159.79) |
| 19:41.54 | ryouma | so i should try to reconfigure grub-pc or something and then try that |
| 19:42.00 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@x52717929.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 19:42.28 | ryouma | i wonder then if i should just do my real upgrade on sdb using that? |
| 19:42.52 | alkisg | If you want, pastebin both your /boot/grub/grub.cfg's, they'll tell us a few things more about your setup, if it has issues or not |
| 19:43.07 | alkisg | When running sudo kvm /path/to/disk, that disk must not be in use |
| 19:43.21 | alkisg | So you can't do it on sdb while you're booted from sdb, or while swap in sdb is in use, etc etc |
| 19:43.40 | ryouma | but i could boot to sda and tehn do it to sdb, which then upon reboot becomes my main stretch disk |
| 19:43.45 | alkisg | Right |
| 19:43.50 | ryouma | ok hang on |
| 19:43.55 | alkisg | Make sure that "sudo lsblk --fs" doesn't show swap in use |
| 19:44.00 | alkisg | Use swapoff -a if in doubt |
| 19:44.20 | *** join/#debian DieMoesch (~DieMoesch@xdsl-87-78-61-48.netcologne.de) |
| 19:46.00 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 19:46.04 | ryouma | hmm my usb drive has taken over sda for some reason, so it's really sdb vs. sdc |
| 19:46.47 | somiaj | henec you should use uuids and not /dev/sdb when doing things, those are assigned in order of detection, and having a usb pluged in sometimes gets detected before the other drives. |
| 19:47.38 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 19:50.11 | ryouma | i think i do |
| 19:50.25 | ryouma | ***** http://dpaste.com/1WMEP28 ***** http://dpaste.com/3PTTDSH |
| 19:50.36 | ryouma | alkisg: |
| 19:51.51 | alkisg | ryouma: they look fine, and I assume you also have matching /etc/fstab files |
| 19:51.58 | *** join/#debian BluesKaj (~Blues@unaffiliated/blueskaj) |
| 19:52.34 | alkisg | ryouma: note that if you put the sdc grub to the sdb MBR, it will still boot from the wrong disk, i.e. it won't be able to boot if you remove sdc |
| 19:52.35 | ryouma | alkisg: e.g. /dev/mapper/crucial-root / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 ****** /dev/disk/by-uuid/70e5649c-9c10-4397-b229-f7def00856ab /boot ext2 defaults,nofail 0 2 |
| 19:52.56 | ryouma | alkisg: yeah i think that is what i am afraid of |
| 19:53.00 | ryouma | in upgrading |
| 19:53.50 | alkisg | The correct way to maintain grub there, is to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc while booted first in sdb and then in sdc, and select only their respective MBRs each time. Only one MBR per grub. |
| 19:54.08 | alkisg | Either from the physical host, or from KVM, it doesn't matter |
| 19:54.11 | *** join/#debian fekir (~fekir@ipservice-092-219-030-195.092.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 19:55.02 | ryouma | hmm, so i could do this before the upgrade and there will be magical debconf stuff that i do not understand that will possibly make the upgrade operation (or future flailing around with grub and initramfs) safer? |
| 19:55.24 | alkisg | The safer part is: if the upgrade totally ruins everything, the other disk still boots, |
| 19:55.37 | alkisg | while now, you're in doubt, maybe it'll try to load the other grub/linux and it won't boot |
| 19:55.39 | ryouma | that's my whole goal :) |
| 19:56.33 | somiaj | ryouma: you could also just run grub-install /dev/sdX to install grub to the desired mbr, you don't have to use dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 19:57.23 | ryouma | what is the difference? |
| 19:57.44 | ryouma | i use grub-isntall when i create the sda boot and root |
| 19:57.45 | alkisg | dpkg-reconfigure remembers the answer for later runs of grub.postinst, while grub-install doesn't remember what you want :) |
| 19:58.08 | ryouma | yeah the remembering is what disturbs me |
| 19:58.22 | alkisg | Remembering is the better of the two options |
| 19:58.23 | somiaj | but since as you see the device names change, and most likely you won't be reinstalling grub, it is more personal preference. |
| 19:58.24 | ryouma | but it is dpkg-reconfuigure that gets called in upgrade? |
| 19:58.47 | somiaj | no dpkg-reconfigure does not get called during upgrades. That is part of the install script. An upgrade is not an install. |
| 19:58.55 | ryouma | ok |
| 19:59.09 | ryouma | doesn't it get called whenever kernel upgrades though? or is that something else? |
| 19:59.26 | somiaj | that is update-grub |
| 19:59.27 | ryouma | maybe that is just grub-update |
| 19:59.30 | ryouma | oops |
| 19:59.31 | ryouma | yeah |
| 19:59.43 | ryouma | alkisg: somiaj thank you for giving me tools and more confidence and verifying my cfg and fstab |
| 19:59.58 | alkisg | somiaj: the grub debconf dialog appears in various cases when grub gets upgraded |
| 19:59.59 | somiaj | grub is not like lilo that has be reinstalled in the mbr each change. It only needs to be installed once, and then you can contorl it via updating config files. |
| 20:00.19 | ryouma | i still don't have total confidence, but i have enough to seriouysly consider joining the stretch revolution now |
| 20:00.27 | *** join/#debian jticket (jticket@unaffiliated/jticket) |
| 20:00.35 | somiaj | alkisg: hmm, I haven't seen that in years of using sid, but I trust you. Though I'm surprised it is using things like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, because those could change between upgrades which could cause problems. |
| 20:00.46 | alkisg | It doesn't, it's using uuids |
| 20:01.13 | somiaj | there is a uuid for /dev/sda, I thought uuids were for filesystems? |
| 20:01.19 | alkisg | I've seen it get called when disks get changed or when there are new grub conffiles/updates in /etc |
| 20:01.32 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:01.33 | alkisg | Let me check the exact debconf entry |
| 20:01.43 | alkisg | I think it's using the disk serial or something |
| 20:01.52 | alkisg | As it can detect when you change the disk, even if you use dd |
| 20:02.46 | somiaj | ahh, that could be how it tracks it. I only use a few systems, but I have no recolletion of grub needing to be reinstalled after any upgrade on my few systems. And the few times I changed disks, I just manually used grub-install. |
| 20:03.34 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 20:05.02 | ryouma | i use /dev/disk/by-id for grub-install, because there is no uuid for the whole drive that i found. yet i know the kernel (udev or some such) changes those a lot. i wonder if the wwn-0x500a07510d234cc0 notation is more stable? |
| 20:06.14 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 20:07.07 | alkisg | db_subst grub-pc/disk_description MODEL "$model" |
| 20:07.19 | *** join/#debian TimJay (~tim@cm-84.215.251.64.getinternet.no) |
| 20:07.19 | alkisg | They're getting that from udev |
| 20:08.19 | somiaj | ahh so it might reinstall grub if it detects a change in disks? Still seems strange to me an upgrade script would risk installing grub over some other bootloader. |
| 20:08.23 | ryouma | (dunno if udev is part of kernel or what, but i do know that the id's change from kernel version to kernel version in practice in debian) |
| 20:08.55 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 20:10.35 | *** join/#debian samsquatch (~samsquatc@unaffiliated/samsquatch) |
| 20:10.39 | samsquatch | hey all |
| 20:11.00 | samsquatch | I've had some weird errors I cannot seem to pin down |
| 20:11.20 | samsquatch | I am on Stretch with Mate |
| 20:11.56 | samsquatch | and every so often I lose keyboard/mouse and video |
| 20:12.04 | alkisg | Last time I had trouble with that was years ago when I was dual booting 2 ubuntu partitions on one disk, and on each grub update, that ubuntu version would reinstall itself to the MBR... until I realized what was happenning and I ran dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and selected no MBR at all on one of them |
| 20:12.06 | samsquatch | I have to do a hard reset |
| 20:12.17 | *** join/#debian blitzed (~blitzed@96.44.134.149) |
| 20:12.43 | *** join/#debian josgalo (~josgalo@41.red-2-137-62.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:12.46 | samsquatch | i cannot find anything that really jumps out in the logs |
| 20:13.07 | alkisg | samsquatch: does alt+ctrl+f1 give you a text console at that point? |
| 20:13.14 | samsquatch | no |
| 20:13.20 | alkisg | Wait, video, do you mean that the screen goes black? |
| 20:13.27 | samsquatch | no keyboard or mouse works |
| 20:13.29 | samsquatch | no |
| 20:13.31 | samsquatch | well |
| 20:13.44 | samsquatch | so when the things tarts its shit it will blink black |
| 20:13.54 | samsquatch | and then the desktop freezes |
| 20:14.05 | samsquatch | and no input devices work |
| 20:14.08 | ryouma | alkisg: somiaj 2 minor questions. is it ok to ^C at a prompt when you run dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc? also, is " 4. - /dev/sdc1 (999 MB; /boot)" an indication that i am already installing only to /dev/sdc1 and not to the other items on the proferred list? |
| 20:14.11 | samsquatch | (except the power button) |
| 20:14.49 | alkisg | So it's just a crash, everything is frozen, not just the keyboard/mouse. Well, first make sure it's not hardware, e.g. try running a live cd for a period of time, doing intensive tasks, watching youtube etc |
| 20:14.52 | samsquatch | like the screen flickers and I lose all input devices |
| 20:15.08 | somiaj | ryouma: where you put /boot is independent of the disk you install grub onto the MBR with grub-install. |
| 20:15.34 | samsquatch | this has only happened since upgrading to Stretch |
| 20:15.44 | ryouma | somiaj: i was referring to the - character which shows up on only that entry |
| 20:15.51 | somiaj | ryouma: as mentioned there are two different things going on. 1) installing grub to the mbr via grub-install, 2) configuring grub via update-grub and the files in /boot/grub |
| 20:15.56 | alkisg | ryouma: on that dpkg-reconfigure, only select whole disks, not partitions. It's usually NOT ok to install grub to partitions, I hope you didn't check your boot partition there. |
| 20:15.58 | ryouma | so i guess i should select "3. /dev/sdc (512110 MB; Crucial_CT512MX100SSD1)" |
| 20:16.05 | samsquatch | and I'll have open like x-chat and looking at a wiki page |
| 20:16.36 | samsquatch | any ideas on that? |
| 20:16.42 | somiaj | ryouma: yes, you can choose to install grub onto the MBR of the first partition, /dev/sdc1, instead of the main disk, /dev/sdc. Most would install on the main disk. |
| 20:16.42 | samsquatch | I have an ssh console open |
| 20:16.47 | ryouma | i was already aware of installing to whole disks, so i would not have done so intentionally. but that - character is disturbing. |
| 20:16.59 | samsquatch | thing is, if im downloading something and it locks up the download continues |
| 20:17.06 | samsquatch | so it seems to be in the UI |
| 20:17.15 | alkisg | somiaj: "MBR of the first partition" => partitions don't have MBRs... if you mean boot sector, that's a different thing |
| 20:17.21 | ryouma | oops, i mean i was already aware of the wisdom of installing to whole disks, so i would not have done so intentionally. but that - character is disturbing. |
| 20:17.35 | ryouma | would not have installed to a partition intentionally* |
| 20:18.16 | alkisg | ryouma: from what I see, that - character means "partition that is child of a disk", doesn't it? |
| 20:18.28 | ryouma | alkisg: ah then it would be ok |
| 20:18.40 | alkisg | Like drawing an ascii-based tree... |
| 20:18.41 | ryouma | alkisg: yeah that hypothesis is not falsified |
| 20:19.09 | ryouma | does dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc always do both grub-install and update-grub? |
| 20:19.38 | alkisg | I think so |
| 20:19.52 | ryouma | i will ^C and when i am prepared to try a reboot, i will select "3. /dev/sdc ..." just in case it is not already selected. however, normally i use "grub-install /dev/disk/by-id/..." |
| 20:19.56 | *** join/#debian poeticrpm (~poeticrpm@unaffiliated/poeticrpm) |
| 20:20.05 | *** join/#debian BeamWatcher (~gashead76@208.117.74.236) |
| 20:20.57 | Butt3rfly | sorry, my son came home |
| 20:21.00 | Butt3rfly | oops |
| 20:24.45 | *** join/#debian goatish (~textual@2607:fea8:235f:f3ac:28ba:5794:912f:5466) |
| 20:27.02 | *** join/#debian gl-prout (~gl-prout@197.158.74.146) |
| 20:27.55 | *** join/#debian adds68 (~adds68@188.29.164.18.threembb.co.uk) |
| 20:28.36 | *** join/#debian altendky (uid135382@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lshkipzqkfnzyuhw) |
| 20:29.22 | *** join/#debian danwellby (~danwellby@144.163.189.80.dyn.plus.net) |
| 20:31.02 | *** part/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 20:31.57 | DammitJim | is there a way to use iostat where one keeps the highest disk write speed on top (order by write speed)? |
| 20:34.32 | alkisg | Like iotop? |
| 20:35.11 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 20:37.53 | *** join/#debian HeOS (~heos@totootot.ddns.nominum.com) |
| 20:37.57 | DammitJim | sorry, iotop |
| 20:38.22 | DammitJim | honestly, I might have mixed them up |
| 20:39.17 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 20:39.18 | *** join/#debian Chizz8l (~Den@46-255.artnet.dn.ua) |
| 20:42.25 | *** join/#debian Len (~Lenisko@n248h247.sprintdatacenter.net) |
| 20:43.21 | *** join/#debian bazhang (~bazhang@unaffiliated/bazhang) |
| 20:43.44 | *** join/#debian Safranil_ (~Safranil@92.175.99.202) |
| 20:47.24 | *** join/#debian martin-_-_ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 20:47.42 | martin-_-_ | hi, how can I use grep to look for a commit message from svn log? |
| 20:50.54 | martin-_-_ | I guess this should work svn log -l<commit limit> | grep -C<5 or more lines> <search message> |
| 20:51.45 | *** join/#debian Zorroness (Zorroness@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/zorroness) |
| 20:51.59 | *** join/#debian oct2pus (~Octopus_O@24-171-0-34.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 20:55.03 | *** join/#debian MurkySocks (~humbag@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 20:56.56 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-clseobyeijrsrehp) |
| 20:57.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1503] by debhelper |
| 20:57.47 | *** join/#debian doyle_ (~doyle@surf01.adesa.com) |
| 21:04.09 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@unaffiliated/mtn) |
| 21:08.55 | *** join/#debian Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10:c74:af6a:ef72:f0b1) |
| 21:11.40 | *** join/#debian Safranil_ (~Safranil@92.175.99.202) |
| 21:12.15 | *** join/#debian maxzor_ (~maxzor@LMontsouris-657-1-196-14.w90-63.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1495] by debhelper |
| 21:19.20 | *** join/#debian hamersaw (~hamersaw@c-67-174-120-231.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 21:23.46 | *** join/#debian preaction (~doug@irc.preaction.me) |
| 21:25.24 | *** join/#debian eck (~root@fsf/member/eck) |
| 21:26.45 | *** join/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:32.50 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 21:33.26 | *** join/#debian doyle___ (~doyle@surf01.adesa.com) |
| 21:35.12 | *** join/#debian ConkyAxis (~pi@cpc82865-enfi22-2-0-cust482.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 21:38.42 | *** join/#debian clemens3 (~clemens@80-218-38-71.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:38.56 | *** join/#debian samsquatch (~samsquatc@unaffiliated/samsquatch) |
| 21:38.58 | samsquatch | hey all |
| 21:39.07 | samsquatch | it was the v4l2 driver |
| 21:39.09 | *** join/#debian tsuggs (~tsuggs@adsl-074-171-024-060.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:39.17 | samsquatch | so it's gone and the problem seems gone as well |
| 21:39.18 | *** join/#debian rlange (~rlange@static-108-16-207-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:39.25 | samsquatch | thanks for helping tho |
| 21:41.25 | *** join/#debian RedSoxFan07 (~Thunderbi@32.212.75.224) |
| 21:41.53 | *** join/#debian Kyokushin (~Kyokushin@S0106306023d63175.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 21:42.52 | *** join/#debian naos62 (~naos62@unaffiliated/naos62) |
| 21:45.28 | *** join/#debian antismap (~antismap@HSI-KBW-134-3-152-121.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 21:50.03 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kcodiwqmktqriemi) |
| 21:50.55 | *** join/#debian golana (~naolga@unaffiliated/naolga) |
| 21:59.18 | *** join/#debian ASTRA` (~LUX@240f:2:780a:1:ec28:73c6:1637:9b4a) |
| 22:01.15 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@cpc132304-sgyl43-2-0-cust462.know.cable.virginm.net) |
| 22:02.59 | *** join/#debian X230t (~ER_nesto@unaffiliated/funk) |
| 22:04.45 | *** join/#debian zarzar (~zarzar@216-136-13-242.static.twtelecom.net) |
| 22:07.39 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87) |
| 22:07.52 | *** join/#debian dave0x6d (uid190567@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xezeccmyvnxfbukz) |
| 22:10.00 | *** join/#debian mavhq (~quassel@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 22:10.36 | *** join/#debian oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@c-71-229-75-133.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:11.37 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 22:13.34 | oct2pus | not sure if i should ask here or #neovim, but is it possible to use the vim-pathogen package on debian to work on neovim or will i need to install a second version of pathogen not from APT just for neovim?\ |
| 22:13.46 | *** part/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:13.56 | *** join/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:14.31 | *** join/#debian nic_ (~nic@190.175.28.153) |
| 22:16.38 | *** join/#debian noobineer (~noobineer@c-68-55-184-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:17.46 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 22:20.32 | hassoon | bluedevil rocks |
| 22:22.53 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@2607:8400:2404:2:d655:62ab:4893:49e5) |
| 22:24.26 | *** join/#debian DalekSec (unit193@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.unit193) |
| 22:27.17 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 22:31.11 | *** join/#debian argusbr (~online@unaffiliated/argusbr) |
| 22:31.56 | *** join/#debian technologov (~technolog@194.44.109.210) |
| 22:32.03 | *** join/#debian snf_gh (~snf_gh@95.155.114.211) |
| 22:34.52 | *** join/#debian finlstrm (~quassel@ip70-188-141-213.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 22:40.18 | *** join/#debian Kyokushin (~Kyokushin@S0106306023d63175.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 22:41.43 | *** join/#debian mnemonic (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 22:41.51 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~Mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:6b35:a2cc:db65:148a) |
| 22:42.09 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128.223.223.0) |
| 22:44.18 | *** join/#debian symphone1is (~undefined@p549D3F2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:44.49 | *** join/#debian nicedreams (~nicedream@ip98-165-117-137.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:48.33 | *** join/#debian lasdam (~lasdam@unaffiliated/lasdam) |
| 22:49.38 | *** join/#debian sibyakin (~sibyakin@83.234.69.145) |
| 22:52.04 | *** join/#debian xqb` (~xqb@gateway/tor-sasl/xqb) |
| 22:55.33 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 22:58.06 | *** join/#debian cadillac_ (~omab@r186-51-204-222.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 23:00.16 | *** part/#debian rcdilorenzo (~rcdiloren@cpe-76-182-26-65.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:00.21 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i5387C00A.versanet.de) |
| 23:00.25 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 23:00.33 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-5-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 23:00.51 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 23:02.13 | *** join/#debian Crypto (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 23:04.22 | *** join/#debian nrx (~metax@gateway/tor-sasl/metax) |
| 23:06.36 | *** join/#debian e14 (~e14@2601:184:4180:da74:28ab:2902:81ba:8a7b) |
| 23:06.45 | *** join/#debian xqb` (~xqb@gateway/tor-sasl/xqb) |
| 23:08.54 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 23:09.01 | *** join/#debian yobop (~yobop@161.170.193.135) |
| 23:09.12 | *** part/#debian yobop (~yobop@161.170.193.135) |
| 23:09.29 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 23:10.36 | *** join/#debian mandeep (~mandeep@2600:1700:c030:26f0:3297:4437:e98a:7fef) |
| 23:13.57 | *** join/#debian raynold (uid201163@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jnyvlbkzocnalmry) |
| 23:15.15 | *** join/#debian tsuggs (~tsuggs@adsl-074-171-024-060.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:15.35 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 23:20.18 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 23:20.45 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128.223.223.0) |
| 23:23.26 | *** join/#debian wpostma (~wpostma@node-1w7jr9uj2rqvueax7j5sloaod.ipv6.telus.net) |
| 23:23.45 | *** join/#debian GDiaX (~gdiax@188.251.57.44) |
| 23:27.17 | *** join/#debian wpostma (~wpostma@node-1w7jr9uj2rqvueax7j5sloaod.ipv6.telus.net) |
| 23:28.22 | *** join/#debian synbiose (sid259337@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tgvabetegueazqxc) |
| 23:29.07 | *** join/#debian polardroid (~polardroi@82.102.27.77) |
| 23:29.21 | *** join/#debian polaris (~polaris_@unaffiliated/polaris/x-3156356) |
| 23:29.55 | *** join/#debian r00ter (~r00ter@p5DDF2014.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:30.39 | *** join/#debian tsuggs (~tsuggs@adsl-074-171-024-060.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:32.15 | *** join/#debian Bliepo (Bliepo@37.74.233.40) |
| 23:33.06 | *** join/#debian MrKeuner (~Kudret@unaffiliated/mrkeuner) |
| 23:33.22 | MrKeuner | hi, on a Debian 8.3, my init script complains -> Starting Glassfish: No passwd entry for user 'gfuser' . gfuser is a network user but not on local passwd file, is there a way to fix this? Or should I create a local user as well? |
| 23:33.22 | *** join/#debian mDfRg (~mDfRg@ksrv.com.pl) |
| 23:33.48 | somiaj | Is glassfish something you got from debian or third party? |
| 23:34.16 | MrKeuner | glassfish is a third party app, I am trying to write an install script for |
| 23:34.34 | somiaj | ,v glassfish-javee |
| 23:34.35 | judd | No package named 'glassfish-javee' was found in amd64. |
| 23:34.43 | somiaj | ,v glassfish-javaee |
| 23:34.44 | judd | Package: glassfish-javaee on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:2.1.1-b31g-3; jessie: 1:2.1.1-b31g+dfsg1-2; buster: 1:2.1.1-b31g+dfsg1-4; sid: 1:2.1.1-b31g+dfsg1-4; stretch: 1:2.1.1-b31g+dfsg1-4 |
| 23:34.50 | *** join/#debian JustStephIt (~JustSteph@108.62.228.187) |
| 23:35.05 | somiaj | MrKeuner: I'm unsure if that glassfish in debian is the same, but you may want to look at the debian package to see how the debian matainers handeled this. |
| 23:35.27 | somiaj | Others may know a more direct answer, but I don't know glassfish well enough to say weither or not you should add a user gfuser on your system for it. |
| 23:39.09 | *** join/#debian jcarpenter2 (~rofl@2601:441:8680:4631:6060:756c:3ca1:2251) |
| 23:39.20 | *** join/#debian Kyokushin (~Kyokushin@S0106306023d63175.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 23:39.46 | annadane | MrKeuner, jessie is on 8.10, so you're several point releases behind (unless you say 8.3 as a placeholder and you actually have been keeping up with updates all along in which case you'd have 8.10) |
| 23:41.16 | MrKeuner | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=glassfish&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all where would pre-post install scripts be? |
| 23:42.19 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-132-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 23:43.21 | *** part/#debian polardroid (~polardroi@82.102.27.77) |
| 23:47.22 | Bliepo | I'm having a dnsmasq related problem. I have a bridge (br0: enp3s0 enp4s0 enp5s0 enp6s0) and use dnsmasq as a dhcp server. I get multiple DHCPDISCOVER(br0) lines in my log, multiple DHCPOFFER(br0) lines, but no DHCPREQUEST or DHCPACK |
| 23:47.35 | *** join/#debian juhop (~anon@emilia.dy.fi) |
| 23:47.42 | Bliepo | I also get errors saying "failed to send packet: Operation not permitted" |
| 23:49.17 | *** join/#debian OS-35834 (~OS-35834@77-57-55-143.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:50.09 | Bliepo | That one is for port 53 though |
| 23:53.58 | wpostma | anyone else finding that the standard unzip binary in debian doesn't handle large zips? |
| 23:54.09 | wpostma | had to use jar xf "file.zip" for really large vm zip |
| 23:55.36 | somiaj | MrKeuner: you can download the source package, or if you click on the tracker, view the package source with the debian/ for the scripts. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/glassfish and https://sources.debian.org/src/glassfish/1:2.1.1-b31g+dfsg1-4/ |
| 23:55.55 | MrKeuner | somiaj, annadane could it be that network is not up when Debian starts to run this initscript? |
| 23:56.08 | MrKeuner | Can I tell initscript to run after network is up? |
| 23:56.11 | somiaj | MrKeuner: you can test that by running the init script after it is up. |
| 23:56.20 | MrKeuner | that runs just fine |
| 23:56.22 | somiaj | MrKeuner: yes, use systemctl to do it. |
| 23:56.23 | MrKeuner | as the gfuser |
| 23:56.45 | somiaj | MrKeuner: in this case you may have to edit the scripts dependencies (far easier with a systemd unit file than a init.d script) to ensure that the network is fully running when it runs the script. |
| 23:56.56 | somiaj | wpostma: the freeversion of unzip is somewhat limited. |
| 23:57.10 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:57.47 | somiaj | wpostma: hmm, I thoguth debian provided a non-free zip program too, but I'm only finding unzip, maybe confusing it with unrar |
| 23:57.47 | MrKeuner | somiaj, can you suggest a tutorial or a quick guide for writing a systemd script, by any chance? |
| 23:58.14 | somiaj | MrKeuner: just look up systemd unit file, you'll get lots of examples. They are far easier to write than a full init.d script. You could also say look for 'systemd unit file for glassfish' |
| 23:58.32 | MrKeuner | all right, thank you |
| 23:59.15 | *** join/#debian oojacoboo (~oojacoboo@c-71-229-75-133.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.23 | wpostma | 7z works a lot better than unzip which seems to be kind of rubbish. |
| 23:59.48 | somiaj | yea, unzip isn't that good of a program, but it works on most zips. Debian/linux prefer other archives than zip. |
