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| 01:20.16 | tw | either screen or dtach are good options. Otherwise </dev/null >/dev/null 2>/devnull |
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| 01:20.27 | tw | minus the typo |
| 01:21.05 | metastable | Could nohup. |
| 01:21.10 | metastable | nohup and background. |
| 01:21.31 | metastable | nohup ./thing.sh & |
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| 01:21.50 | tw | that'd work too, I can't remember if nohup automatically creates log files for you. |
| 01:22.17 | metastable | Directs output to nohup.out by default. |
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| 01:37.36 | ryouma | when i boot, i get "a start process ...". i have to sit there for 1.5m until it times out. this is for some partition i don't care about, and its name seemed a little funny. btw i have nofail for everything in my fstab. where do i go to find that exact error message? it is not in /var/log. |
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| 01:51.01 | zzz_ | im migrating from ubuntu server to debian, do you guys have any advice or heads up i could use? |
| 01:51.32 | tw | ryouma: journalctl -xe will probably help |
| 01:51.35 | metastable | Don't use Ubuntu PPAs. Use stable. Don't mix Debian releases. |
| 01:51.39 | metastable | !frankendebian |
| 01:51.39 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 01:51.45 | metastable | Basically, that. ^ |
| 01:52.43 | zzz_ | thanks, thats good advice |
| 01:52.51 | ryouma | tw: thanks. not there though. |
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| 01:54.18 | tw | any guess as to the mount point? It should be in /etc/fstab |
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| 01:56.17 | ryouma | tw: if it's in fstab, then it is definitely this: "/dev/mapper/bi /media/bi ext4 defaults,nofail 0 2". but i thought (not sure) that it said toshiba-bi, which is a dev mapper name i had long ago. but shouldn't the nofail make it not do that? |
| 01:57.20 | metastable | It's still going to try to mount it. It just won't kill the boot process if it can't. |
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| 01:58.10 | metastable | I believe you want 'nobootwait' as well. |
| 01:58.20 | ryouma | tw: i.e. i thought the purpose of nofail was to make that whole thing time out immediately. maybe that's wrong |
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| 01:58.28 | ryouma | ooh i will check it out |
| 01:58.34 | metastable | Assuming that that value is still valid. |
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| 01:59.08 | ryouma | i do not find nobootwait in man fstab or man mount |
| 01:59.11 | ryouma | i am on jessie |
| 01:59.12 | tw | there's also noauto if you want it to just ignore. |
| 01:59.30 | ryouma | (also why is nofail not default?) |
| 02:00.05 | ryouma | i want it to try to mount, and then just skip it if it cannot |
| 02:00.09 | metastable | Because it shouldn't be the default. |
| 02:00.10 | tw | you should also check crypttab to see if your old thing is still in there. |
| 02:00.41 | tw | ryouma: nofail by default would try to boot if / was unavailable or needed fsck. |
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| 02:06.40 | ryouma | checked everywhere, old thing doesn't seem to be anywhere in /etc, for example |
| 02:06.47 | ryouma | nofail by default for non root i mean |
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| 02:09.55 | ryouma | i know of no org-reindent-region |
| 02:10.07 | ryouma | oops mischan |
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| 02:35.48 | rue_shop3 | what program replaced the kompozer package? |
| 02:36.06 | rue_shop3 | I cant find an wysiwyg html editor |
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| 02:46.19 | rant | they've fallen out of style these days.. |
| 02:46.57 | rant | web design has gotten too complex and they just write unmaintainable spaghetti code anyhow |
| 02:47.34 | coruja | nowadays html is rather just a container for scripts and media |
| 02:47.39 | rant | something like bluefish offers some of the convenience of a WYSIWYG editor like wizards for creating tables and such.. but itsn't like a classic WYSIWYG editor |
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| 04:04.03 | vahe | hi , https://bpaste.net/show/32006351cbcf how remove libreoffice or openoffice |
| 04:04.27 | vahe | they turned out to have a conflict |
| 04:04.43 | vahe | conflict openoffice libreoffice |
| 04:05.29 | vahe | https://bpaste.net/show/38d5a6258f00 |
| 04:06.46 | somiaj | vahe: where/how did you install open office? |
| 04:07.16 | somiaj | it looks like you are trying to mix packages for different debian/releases distro, which is a good way to break things. |
| 04:07.37 | vahe | somiaj: thanks, I downloaded from the official website and install using dpkg |
| 04:08.25 | vahe | deb no, I installed it for Debian |
| 04:09.14 | vahe | somiaj: I installed everything correctly, can help remove both I then reinstall? |
| 04:09.38 | somiaj | vahe: have you tried apt -f install and see what it suggests? |
| 04:10.07 | somiaj | vahe: I am unsure on openoffice, and the quality of the .deb package or if they made it for debian or ubuntu, or it is just outdated. Any reason why you want openoffice over libreoofice? |
| 04:10.22 | somiaj | vahe: and yes, if apt -f install doesn't fix it, you can remove all the openoffice and libreoffice packages, then inrestall. |
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| 04:11.27 | vahe | somiaj: apt install -f doing exactly that https://paste.debian.net/1009695/ |
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| 04:13.00 | somiaj | vahe: yea, looks like you'll have to remove the packages, dpkg -l | grep office, should list them, then apt remove the offending packges. |
| 04:13.23 | coruja | apt purge openoffice* |
| 04:13.42 | somiaj | I would strongly suggest using the debian provided libreoffice over the third party package, just due to being better integrated with debian. |
| 04:14.01 | coruja | then decide which of both to install (debian sources recommended) and (re)install |
| 04:14.03 | somiaj | (in this case it appears the openoffice package didn't correctly conflict with the libreoffice packages in debian) |
| 04:19.00 | vahe | somiaj: https://paste.debian.net/1009696/ |
| 04:19.33 | vahe | coruja: apt purge openoffice* does, too, most that and apt install -f |
| 04:20.07 | vahe | it is possible to tell does nothing |
| 04:20.39 | vahe | everything I wrote in apt terminal does the same. |
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| 04:22.25 | vahe | if I had known about this conflict, I would just delete then reinstall OpenOffice |
| 04:22.39 | coruja | and apt purge libreoffice* ? |
| 04:23.18 | vahe | coruja: https://paste.debian.net/1009698/ |
| 04:24.13 | coruja | _libre_ |
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| 04:26.56 | somiaj | vahe: remove all those libreoffice packages taht are 'iU', the 'rc' ones just have config files around. |
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| 04:27.54 | vahe | somiaj: sorry please , I don't understand. |
| 04:28.28 | somiaj | in that list your posted, there were a lot of packages, remove the libreoffice packages that have 'iU' as the two letters on their starting line. You may have to use dpkg if apt wont' do it. |
| 04:28.44 | somiaj | but your system is in a broken state due to these openoffice packages, so you may need to manually clean this up |
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| 04:29.05 | vahe | if you can tell me how |
| 04:29.09 | SIX10 | why must alsa torture me |
| 04:29.16 | SIX10 | i reboot my computer and sound dont work |
| 04:29.37 | somiaj | SIX10: did it work before you rebooted your computer? |
| 04:29.47 | somiaj | SIX10: are you only using alsa, or are you using pulse on top of it. |
| 04:29.47 | SIX10 | somiaj yes |
| 04:30.03 | SIX10 | i have both pulse and alsa installed, idk if im using both at the same time |
| 04:30.15 | somiaj | SIX10: sound cards do not always get detected int eh same order, check 'cat /proc/asound/cards' it could be that what was the default sound card 0, is now sound card 1. |
| 04:30.52 | somiaj | SIX10: pulse runs on top of alsa, if using pulse, get a program like pavucontrol to configure pulse to use the correct sound card. |
| 04:31.12 | somiaj | it could also be you configured alsa but stopping pulse, but rebooting made pulse run again. |
| 04:32.16 | SIX10 | it looks as if pavucontrol has the correct soundcard |
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| 04:32.45 | SIX10 | when i go into alsamixer its default is "- (default) and 0 is HDA Intel PCH |
| 04:33.02 | somiaj | SIX10: if using pulse, leave alsa alone, and configure it through pavucontrol |
| 04:34.11 | SIX10 | all pavucontrol says in output devices is Port: Speakers and in the dropdown menu it also lists headphones unplugged |
| 04:34.37 | SIX10 | the slider is greyed out |
| 04:35.45 | vahe | somiaj: I had to manually remove all packages OpenOffice, the problem was solved) |
| 04:36.25 | somiaj | vahe: I thnk you could have manually removed libreoffice too. Any reason you want openoffice over libreoffice? |
| 04:36.46 | vahe | dpkg --puge openoffice |
| 04:36.47 | dpkg | vahe: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 04:37.01 | vahe | I prefer OpenOffice. |
| 04:37.38 | SIX10 | hmm i just noticed something |
| 04:37.44 | vahe | how to install apt in OpenOffice ? |
| 04:37.52 | SIX10 | the mute button on my thinkpad t420 is lit up, i press it and nothing happens |
| 04:38.03 | vahe | somiaj: thanks |
| 04:38.17 | somiaj | due to oracle buying sun and aquring openoffice, libreoffice is a fork, so they are similar. But if you choose openoffice, completely remove libreoffice, and then get support from orcale about it |
| 04:38.28 | vahe | thanks |
| 04:38.30 | somiaj | their packages just won't be as well tested to integrate into a debian system. |
| 04:38.46 | aaap | libreoffice is more updated than openoffice, if i am not wrong |
| 04:38.52 | somiaj | in general be careful with third party software. |
| 04:39.12 | vahe | :) |
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| 04:39.30 | somiaj | aaap: They have diverged, I think oracle is doing work on openoffice, but I think libre has more community support and has more newer features |
| 04:39.41 | somiaj | though openoffice may have some closed oracle features, you'll have to ask oracle what they ahve done. |
| 04:40.39 | aaap | somiaj, yea the community support & feedback make libreoffice more popular, imho |
| 04:40.54 | somiaj | same issue with mariadb vs mysql, oracle owns the copyright, and the community would rather work on something independent. |
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| 04:41.06 | somiaj | aaap: that and the community just doesn't like oracle. |
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| 04:43.41 | SIX10 | i fixed it |
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| 04:44.04 | SIX10 | whenever i press the volume slider on polybar it mutes it for somereason |
| 04:44.50 | somiaj | SIX10: glad you figured it out. |
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| 04:59.02 | Devastator | I'm seeing these messages on boot of my debian VM on hyper-v, is this harmless? [ 0.000000] efi: requested map not found. [ 0.000000] efi: Failed to lookup EFI memory descriptor for 0x00000000f6ee7000 |
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| 05:29.03 | somiaj | Devastator: sounds like some issue with the vm not provided some EFI access to the virtual firmware....I woulds ay unless you experience something strange with the vm, it is okay. |
| 05:29.16 | rant | Devastator: I wouldnt be concerned about it. Linux is verbose.. most systems have tons of such messages about things being different than the developer expected |
| 05:29.33 | somiaj | Devastator: efi just allows more communication between an os and the firmware, and it appears the efi impemtation is missing something the kernel was looking for. |
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| 05:32.33 | rant | Devastator: its one of those kinds of things that only matters either if as somiaj had said, if you have an issue, or if you plan to contact the developer and help them out with specs of the system to get the code fixed for that particular hardware |
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| 06:29.22 | linuxthefish | hi, why can't i change the time on debian using "sudo date +%T -s "08:27:11""? |
| 06:29.47 | linuxthefish | hi, why can't i change the time on debian using "sudo date +%T -s "08:27:11""? after running this command, then running date, the time stays the same! I'm just doing this to test an app, and I need to set the time to a different one |
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| 06:32.40 | somiaj | linuxthefish: first you shoudln't change the time, to much depends on it and you can make thigns not work. |
| 06:33.02 | themill | Most likely you are running a daemon like ntp that is making sure the time is right (because it should be) |
| 06:33.03 | somiaj | second systemd now has a built in ntp service that keeps your systems time up todate, and though you change it, the service changes it back |
| 06:33.21 | somiaj | themill: seems in stretch systemd has a built in one, so even if ntpd is not running, systemd has something running |
| 06:33.33 | themill | yeah |
| 06:33.44 | themill | still has ntp running on everything |
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| 06:34.00 | somiaj | though I forget the name of the service, someone here was able to change their time after disabling the service. |
| 06:35.01 | themill | timesyncd |
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| 06:35.30 | somiaj | I see it as systemd-timesyncd.service here, hmm seem they are alises to eachotehr |
| 06:36.06 | somiaj | linuxthefish: there is faketime, if you want to fake the time to a certain app. |
| 06:36.50 | linuxthefish | ah thanks somiaj! |
| 06:37.01 | linuxthefish | it's just stupid openvpn, it thinks the certificate isn't valid yet |
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| 06:37.32 | somiaj | but changing the time could affect other ssl certs on your system, hence why you may not want to actually chagne the systems time. |
| 06:38.24 | themill | openvpn's idea of a cert being invalid is unlikely to be incorrect tbh |
| 06:39.14 | velix | Do I need to restart PostgreSQL after updating? |
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| 06:40.16 | somiaj | velix: sometimes the postinst script would do this, there is also needrestart which might tell you if things need restarted. |
| 06:40.44 | velix | somiaj: I see. I just wonder, how I can update an application while running :) |
| 06:40.53 | velix | somiaj: In Windows, this will make much trouble. |
| 06:41.32 | somiaj | velix: works just fine in debian. The program is usually running in memory so updating the install is fine. It depends on the service if it is restarted after an upgrade though. |
| 06:41.37 | velix | ah, I see. |
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| 06:41.43 | velix | Thanks. |
| 06:42.07 | somiaj | but there are apps like needsrestart that will check if things are running off of outadated binaries or libaries. |
| 06:42.09 | themill | An existing connection to the db server would still be broken and the client may not gracefully handle that. |
| 06:42.10 | somiaj | (in memeory) |
| 06:42.27 | themill | yeah, needrestart is pretty good |
| 06:43.12 | linuxthefish | what package provides ntpupdate? |
| 06:43.24 | linuxthefish | i have ntp installed and still get command not found |
| 06:43.27 | somiaj | linuxthefish: dpkg -S foo, will check what package on your system provides foo |
| 06:43.39 | themill | linuxthefish: if you mean ntpdate, you don't want it |
| 06:43.44 | linuxthefish | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *ntpupdate* |
| 06:43.53 | linuxthefish | themill, I want to force time update using a different server one time |
| 06:43.58 | Tom-_ | do you mean ntpdate? |
| 06:44.09 | linuxthefish | yeah Tom-_ |
| 06:44.29 | Tom-_ | it's in the ntpdate package |
| 06:44.38 | themill | and you seriously don't want it |
| 06:44.44 | linuxthefish | ah thanks Tom-_ |
| 06:44.47 | linuxthefish | themill, why not? |
| 06:44.48 | somiaj | linuxthefish: still if you have something like timesyncd running, yoru system will just reset the time. There are probably better ways to achive your goal. |
| 06:45.26 | themill | linuxthefish: ntpdate is just a broken way of setting the time. If you want to set the correct time, use ntp. If you need a broken time, fix the thing that is broken |
| 06:46.16 | themill | ntpdate really should have been removed from Debian about 4 releases ago |
| 06:46.23 | linuxthefish | hmm timesyncd isn't installed, what is the best way to set the time automatically? |
| 06:47.19 | somiaj | linuxthefish: it is part of systemd, and I think is already setting the time on your system. Or as themill suggests, install ntp |
| 06:47.31 | linuxthefish | I used to have an hourly crontab for "ntpdate -s time.google.com" haha |
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| 06:47.51 | linuxthefish | ah yeah i'm using systemd somiaj but there isn't a /etc/init.d/timesyncd |
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| 06:48.22 | somiaj | linuxthefish: why would you expect there to be one, this is a systemd unit file, not a sysv init.d script. |
| 06:48.34 | somiaj | linuxthefish: systemctl status systemd-timesyncd |
| 06:49.03 | linuxthefish | ah thanks, yeah it's running, will that automatically update the time somehow? |
| 06:49.19 | themill | if you actually needed ntpdate running from cron then lots of things on your system would hate you on a regular basis. A real time syncing daemon like timesyncd or ntpd would be much better to have |
| 06:49.22 | somiaj | that is what was kept changning your time back when you were trying to chagne it with date. |
| 06:49.43 | linuxthefish | ah thanks, I like having the correct time |
| 06:49.55 | linuxthefish | themill, I don't have it anymore don't worry |
| 06:50.20 | themill | :) |
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| 08:38.28 | safetyPL | Why I can't install "wine" on my laptop ? |
| 08:39.18 | babilen | What happens if you try? |
| 08:43.53 | hypn0 | short circuit? :-) |
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| 09:01.06 | nikio_ | why is vim not using backspace as delete properly |
| 09:01.20 | nikio_ | thats ridiculous, im on debian 9 stretch and i even tried to set the right commands in .vimrc |
| 09:01.24 | nikio_ | but still doesnt work |
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| 09:02.29 | babilen | Please define "doesn't work" in more detail |
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| 09:05.21 | nikio_ | when i press backspace it doesnt delete a character |
| 09:05.34 | babilen | What happens instead? |
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| 09:07.29 | nikio_ | it goes backwards |
| 09:07.35 | nikio_ | like with the left arrow |
| 09:07.51 | babilen | Could you run ":set backspace=indent,eol,start" please? |
| 09:08.06 | hypn0 | .vimrc <what did you change in |
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| 09:09.59 | webmind | bash: what: No such file or directory |
| 09:10.08 | webmind | ;) |
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| 09:12.00 | nikio_ | babilen, i pasted that after pressing escape and : |
| 09:12.01 | babilen | nikio_: Does that sort it? |
| 09:12.02 | nikio_ | its there |
| 09:12.09 | nikio_ | but when i press enter the cursor goes into the file |
| 09:12.36 | babilen | does it behave differently now? |
| 09:13.05 | nikio_ | not sure, its just so messed up from any previous times i worked with vi |
| 09:13.12 | nikio_ | just seems broken |
| 09:13.28 | nikio_ | also when i press up down left right the letters a s d w appear |
| 09:13.33 | nikio_ | bo |
| 09:13.41 | nikio_ | no the letter C D A B A |
| 09:13.46 | babilen | It's very straightforward. You start vim, you enter ":set backspace=indent,eol,start" in normal mode and observe the resulting behaviour |
| 09:13.48 | nikio_ | depedning on which arrow i press |
| 09:13.59 | nikio_ | i told you what happend |
| 09:14.27 | nikio_ | it didnt fix it |
| 09:14.33 | nikio_ | backspace is still left arrow |
| 09:14.37 | babilen | Yes, that is the expected behaviour. You did say *nothing* about the resulting deletion behaviour |
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| 09:14.45 | nikio_ | and the arrows cause capital letters to be inserted on a new line |
| 09:15.02 | babilen | So, in normal mode ":set backspace" gives you what now? |
| 09:15.05 | nikio_ | im using a debian stretch vagrant box |
| 09:15.14 | nikio_ | sshing into it with l\putty |
| 09:15.19 | nikio_ | *putty |
| 09:15.28 | babilen | Well .. that's bound to mess things up |
| 09:15.36 | babilen | Try a normal "vagrant ssh" |
| 09:15.43 | nikio_ | never had this probably before with ANY vm |
| 09:15.54 | nikio_ | vagrant just sets up a vm |
| 09:15.58 | nikio_ | its still using virtualbox |
| 09:16.02 | nikio_ | it doesnt matter its vagrant |
| 09:16.08 | babilen | Which Box is it? https://app.vagrantup.com/debian/boxes/stretch64 ? |
| 09:16.28 | babilen | I am aware of what vagrant is and does |
| 09:16.45 | babilen | It would also be nice if you could answer: "So, in normal mode ":set backspace" gives you what now?" |
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| 09:16.57 | nikio_ | yup |
| 09:16.58 | nikio_ | https://app.vagrantup.com/debian/boxes/stretch64 |
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| 09:17.48 | nikio_ | babilen, same as after typing the previous command |
| 09:17.49 | nikio_ | same behaviour |
| 09:18.39 | nikio_ | i assume by normal mode you mean command modE? |
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| 09:24.33 | webmind | hmm, does apt no longer continue broken downloaded? |
| 09:24.46 | webmind | it was at 95% broke, and next time it just started at 0% |
| 09:25.06 | babilen | nikio_: I am referring to vim's normal mode: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/intro.html#vim-modes-intro |
| 09:25.25 | nikio_ | babilen, they dont have a screenshot of how it looks unfortunately |
| 09:25.27 | webmind | yeah, just gave it a sigterm, again starts at 0 |
| 09:25.36 | nikio_ | it would be much faster to use an image so i can see |
| 09:25.55 | nikio_ | im pretty sure its the command mode |
| 09:26.03 | nikio_ | where you type at the bottom |
| 09:26.07 | nikio_ | cursor stays at the bottom |
| 09:26.22 | nikio_ | babilen, https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/76401 |
| 09:26.27 | nikio_ | i think this the problem |
| 09:26.42 | nikio_ | but vim: command not found |
| 09:26.45 | alkisg | webmind: afaik it does that for each deb, but once it's downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives, then it doesn't redownload it |
| 09:26.47 | nikio_ | hmm |
| 09:27.03 | alkisg | so you can ctrl+c between two debs, but not "inside" a deb |
| 09:27.11 | webmind | alkisg: I remember it continuing a deb. |
| 09:27.12 | nikio_ | im using: VIM - Vi IMproved 8.0 (2016 Sep 12, compiled Sep 30 2017 18:21:38) |
| 09:27.23 | webmind | which is really nice with big files and crappy connections |
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| 09:27.24 | babilen | nikio_: Did you install vim? |
| 09:27.25 | alkisg | I don't, at least for 5+ years now |
| 09:27.27 | nikio_ | when i did vi --version | head -n 1 |
| 09:27.34 | nikio_ | babilen, nope |
| 09:27.37 | nikio_ | but i always used vi |
| 09:27.38 | babilen | So you are running vi not vim? |
| 09:27.42 | nikio_ | without a problem |
| 09:28.13 | babilen | Maybe install vim-nox and run vim? |
| 09:28.29 | nikio_ | vi --version | head -n 1 gives the above result |
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| 09:30.57 | nikio_ | babilen, chmod 777 .vimrc |
| 09:31.00 | nikio_ | did the trick |
| 09:31.30 | nikio_ | no idea why they didnt make that the default |
| 09:31.43 | nikio_ | seems so uncomfortable without it |
| 09:33.03 | nikio_ | thx for the help babilen : ) |
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| 09:34.40 | babilen | The difference is the setting of ":nocompatible" |
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| 09:39.11 | babilen | nikio_: Is there a /home/*/.vimrc /root/.vimrc in the vagrant box? |
| 09:39.31 | babilen | can't find it |
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| 09:44.47 | nikio_ | babilen, yup it works now i had to chmod 777 the .vimrc in my root folder |
| 09:45.19 | nikio_ | i put: set nocp |
| 09:45.37 | nikio_ | and: set backspace=indent,eol,start |
| 09:45.44 | nikio_ | and chmod 777 the file, now its normal |
| 09:45.53 | rant | make it 007 and have the pretty lady make you a martini :P |
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| 09:50.18 | blackslide | Hi, I'm having issues after installing steam and i386 gfx drivers |
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| 09:50.42 | blackslide | Everything works fine until I log in as a user |
| 09:51.21 | blackslide | After login, I have no way to interact with the system, except for long pressing the pwr button.. |
| 09:52.08 | blackslide | Keyboard, touchpad and touchscreen are unresponsive. Can't switch tty's or anything. |
| 09:52.19 | blackslide | everything works in the login screen |
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| 09:53.55 | blackslide | But everything else seems to work, since it recognizes stuff inserted into the usb ports... hmm.. maybe I'll try usb kbd/mouse |
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| 09:57.19 | babilen | nikio_: There is no /root/.vimrc in the vagrant box, is there? |
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| 09:59.19 | babilen | And you shouldn't have to make those changes as installing vim (which you want to use) by installing, say, the vim-nox package and running "vim" will DTRT |
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| 09:59.41 | blackslide | okay, that didn't work |
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| 10:00.13 | blackslide | any ideas why input works in the login screen, but after userlogin, nada? |
| 10:00.15 | babilen | I mostly use https://github.com/dougm/vagrant-tramp with Emacs, but the general advice of: Install vim if you want to use vim holds :) |
| 10:00.59 | blackslide | Everything wsa peachy before steam installation > reboot |
| 10:01.17 | blackslide | I used the debian installation instructions |
| 10:02.52 | babilen | Link? |
| 10:03.43 | blackslide | https://wiki.debi.org/Steam |
| 10:03.48 | blackslide | duh |
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| 10:03.52 | blackslide | https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
| 10:04.05 | rant | blackslide: had you tried a SAK by chance? |
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| 10:04.35 | blackslide | uh, a what? |
| 10:04.43 | rant | Alt+Sysrq+K |
| 10:05.50 | rant | I had some weird issue a long time ago where a DM was somehow sending all my input to a terminal other than the one it was running on.. effectively causing the same symptoms you describe.. the SAK kills anything using /dev/console.. and should still work regardless in such a situation but will not work if the system were hung or such |
| 10:06.35 | blackslide | Well, it seems the system is responsive but something is messing with the input.. |
| 10:06.44 | blackslide | I'll try that.. |
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| 10:09.04 | nikio_ | babilen, i dont believe there was |
| 10:09.07 | nikio_ | i made it though |
| 10:09.16 | nikio_ | DTRT what is that? |
| 10:09.21 | babilen | "do the right thing" |
| 10:09.41 | nikio_ | ah ok |
| 10:09.45 | nikio_ | well its just some commands |
| 10:09.50 | nikio_ | two commands and done |
| 10:09.56 | nikio_ | no need to install extra stuff |
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| 10:10.15 | gunix | ,v qemu |
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| 10:10.17 | judd | Package: qemu on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.1.2+dfsg-6a+deb7u12; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6+deb7u24; wheezy-backports: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u5a~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6; jessie-security: 1:2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u6; jessie-backports: 1:2.8+dfsg-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:2.8+dfsg-6+deb9u3; stretch-security: 1:2.8+dfsg-6+deb9u3; buster: 1:2.11+dfsg-1; sid: 1:2.11+dfsg-1 |
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| 10:11.41 | phantomcircuit | im trying to setup a bridge between a wireless interface and 3 ethernet ports |
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| 10:11.53 | babilen | nikio_: You are missing out an *a lot* of vim modes/syntax/.../plugin functionality |
| 10:12.02 | babilen | But sure .. if thats |
| 10:12.07 | babilen | what you want |
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| 10:12.15 | phantomcircuit | starting hostapd with bridge=br0 set in the config isn't actually adding the wireless interface to the bridge though |
| 10:12.25 | phantomcircuit | but brctl addif br0 wlp4s0 works perfectly |
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| 10:13.35 | _spOOn_ | anyone around help me with a slurmdbd+mariadb issue? |
| 10:14.09 | _spOOn_ | seems that during the upgrade to 16.05 of slurm, its failing the database update |
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| 10:16.07 | blackslide | hmm.. after hitting Alt+SyRq+K, screen shows tty1 for a moment and returns into the login screen, but now is unresponsive like it is after login |
| 10:16.29 | petn-randall | _spOOn_: Where is that version from? The stretch version is 0.4.3. |
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| 10:17.18 | blackslide | btw, this key combination seems to be unavailable to this tablet. Had to use external kbd... |
| 10:18.25 | nikio_ | ok |
| 10:18.25 | booyah | why the hell doesn't capslock light up when in virtual terminal? |
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| 10:18.34 | petn-randall | _spOOn_: Oh, nvm, was looking at the wrong package. |
| 10:18.34 | booyah | I've seen this since like year+ on debians at least |
| 10:18.36 | _spOOn_ | petn-randall: stretch |
| 10:19.11 | petn-randall | booyah: Works fine for me, must be on your end. |
| 10:19.32 | phantomcircuit | i think hostapd needs to be running before the bridge is setup |
| 10:19.33 | phantomcircuit | sad |
| 10:19.44 | _spOOn_ | getting things like error: Couldn't load specified plugin name for accounting_storage/mysql: Plugin init() callback failed |
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| 10:19.53 | _spOOn_ | and from what my google fu tells me |
| 10:20.05 | blackslide | can [usermod -a -G video,audio username] brake something? |
| 10:20.06 | _spOOn_ | there seems to be some stuff that what removed in later versions of mariadb |
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| 10:23.59 | booyah | petn-randall: on all 4 computers? |
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| 10:24.42 | booyah | I didn't seen in recent years a debian computer that in virtual terminal would show the capslock LED on keyboard when capslock is active |
| 10:24.51 | booyah | numlock and scrolllock works, but not capslock |
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| 10:25.21 | cheapie | I would test that, but I don't /have/ a caps lock key... |
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| 10:26.00 | cheapie | I did switch to tty2 and try the other two, though, and Num Lock and Scroll Lock both light up. |
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| 10:26.22 | _spOOn_ | have also tried dropping the db and recreating as part of packagfe install, and it fails after creating about 10 tables; |
| 10:26.23 | booyah | anyone can test capslock? |
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| 10:27.21 | pingfloyd | booyah: same thing here |
| 10:27.26 | booyah | pingfloyd: as in? |
| 10:27.30 | pingfloyd | in VC the led doesn't show which mode it is in |
| 10:27.33 | pingfloyd | in X it does |
| 10:27.38 | booyah | yeah |
| 10:28.00 | booyah | linux A.D. 2018 - still not really supporting keyboards as existed since before this millenium |
| 10:28.27 | pingfloyd | file a bug report |
| 10:28.42 | booyah | pingfloyd: btw, why you did not? (just curious) |
| 10:28.57 | pingfloyd | cause it's not that big of deal to me |
| 10:28.59 | blackslide | Don't have a led in mine anyway :D |
| 10:29.02 | booyah | petn-randall: for you it worked? on actually virtual terminal 1, the one showing up after ctrl-alt-f1 ? |
| 10:29.07 | pingfloyd | even forgot about it |
| 10:29.37 | blackslide | So what groups should a user be in, if he needs to use X? |
| 10:29.45 | booyah | blackslide: video? |
| 10:30.04 | petn-randall | booyah: File a bug report. |
| 10:30.14 | pingfloyd | blackslide: usually shouldn't matter for X itself |
| 10:30.51 | blackslide | I'm just having a weird issue of having no input method after login |
| 10:31.14 | booyah | petn-randall: yeah to file a bug report Im asking on what setup it worked. like debian stable amd64? usb keyboard? |
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| 10:32.13 | blackslide | my user is in: cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, netdev, bluetooth, scanner |
| 10:32.42 | booyah | blackslide: you must re-login to actually be in the group. if you are, then afair it should work |
| 10:32.59 | blackslide | yes, I've done a dozen reboots |
| 10:33.15 | blackslide | problem is, when I login to X, I have no input |
| 10:33.44 | booyah | blackslide: add to group "input" too? |
| 10:33.57 | blackslide | okay, I'll do that :D |
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| 10:36.56 | blackslide | well, that didn't wok |
| 10:36.58 | blackslide | work |
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| 10:37.36 | blackslide | It's weird that Alt+SysRq+K makes the login screen behave just like it does after login.. |
| 10:38.34 | booyah | blackslide: yey |
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| 10:47.10 | _spOOn_ | I've just tested with mysql-community 5.6, and slurmdbd works successfully |
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| 10:50.48 | l3dx | isn't broadcom-sta-dkms available for buster? |
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| 10:56.43 | rant | blackslide: did you check your logs? and what exactly did you mean about i386 gfx drivers? you installed i386 drivers on an otherwise amd64 machine? which drivers specifically / from where? |
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| 10:57.27 | blackslide | what logs do I need to check? I don't see anything odd in dmesg... |
| 10:57.52 | blackslide | the debian/steam wiki states that you need i386 drivers for steam to work |
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| 10:58.17 | blackslide | So, apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 |
| 10:58.37 | blackslide | And yes, it's a 64bit system |
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| 10:59.09 | blackslide | well, there's a ton of oddness in dmesg, since broken fw etc, but nothing new |
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| 11:00.19 | blackslide | overall, https://wiki.debian.org/Steam is outdated, since strech has been out for a while |
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| 11:00.30 | blackslide | It only states "Don't do this on Wheezy"... |
| 11:00.30 | BluesKaj | 'Morning |
| 11:00.51 | blackslide | 'Good day |
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| 11:02.50 | blackslide | I don't understand steams approach anyhow, everything has been 64bit for ages, why the need for 32bit OGL and gfx... |
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| 11:09.11 | blackslide | hmm.. |
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| 12:00.43 | nbah | hello |
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| 12:02.22 | format_c | hi |
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| 12:06.11 | nbah | how to modify xorg configuration file? there are already machined setup of xorg.conf and xorg.conf.in and xorg.conf.d/synaptics.conf Could I simply use instructions from archlinux.org multihead page #configuration_using_xorg.conf, which places a file '10-monitor.conf' in *.d dir? |
| 12:07.20 | rant | nbah: you got the right idea |
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| 12:09.55 | nbah | OTOH, slim GUI login manager, prompts for user and password in a way that screen is extended in both monitors LVDS1 (netbook) and VGA1 (external). I would like to just activate LVDS1 at GUI login prompt. The user/password GUI login box is "cut" by the edges of both monitors |
| 12:11.18 | format_c | AFAIK the modular xorg.conf configuration is placed in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
| 12:11.36 | nbah | so it overrides? |
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| 12:12.13 | format_c | apparently. There are some files in there to adjust some sections |
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| 12:12.44 | format_c | you can try to place your own files there |
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| 12:13.54 | nbah | what if I miss some configuration? Isn't safe to edit the machined setup one? And add/remove lines accordingly? |
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| 12:17.02 | jelly-home | the right place to put xorg.conf snippets is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ NOT /usr (you should never have to edit anything under /usr) |
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| 12:17.33 | nbah | oh man |
| 12:19.15 | format_c | oh interessting I don't even have a xorg.conf.d directory under /etc/X11 |
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| 12:19.26 | format_c | sorry for confusing |
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| 12:20.00 | jelly-home | if you need you can create it yourself |
| 12:20.10 | format_c | thx |
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| 12:20.15 | nbah | where are the IRC user profile reviews? |
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| 12:23.15 | nbah | jelly-home: is my worry accounted? |
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| 12:24.08 | nbah | if i miss a configuration like as is in default xorg.conf(.in) ? |
| 12:24.45 | jelly-home | um, there is no default xorg.conf |
| 12:25.08 | nbah | well, there is one here |
| 12:25.13 | nbah | ? |
| 12:25.38 | jelly-home | nbah, which debian release do you have installed? |
| 12:26.12 | nbah | stretch |
| 12:29.24 | jelly-home | and you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf in place? |
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| 12:29.38 | nbah | yes |
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| 12:29.54 | jelly-home | did you install non-free drivers or something? |
| 12:30.07 | nbah | no |
| 12:30.36 | nbah | is a netbook; neither nvidia or amd |
| 12:30.50 | jelly-home | was this system upgraded from an older release? How did you install Debian? |
| 12:31.19 | nbah | i sincerely don't remember |
| 12:31.52 | jelly-home | you can move away that file and see if there's any change. It's not present by default. |
| 12:32.30 | nbah | not present? what triggers screen then? |
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| 12:32.44 | nbah | i might have configure X manually, couldn't I ? |
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| 12:33.10 | nbah | GRUB? |
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| 12:33.22 | jelly-home | Xorg server does autodetection. |
| 12:36.56 | nbah | isn't there a clever way? i first create .conf file in *.d, but what if I miss some configuration? what If I rename xorg.conf what are the drawbacks issues could happen? |
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| 12:38.13 | nbah | anyways, there is not willing to let autodetect. I want to disable VGA1 external monitor on GUI login prompt |
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| 12:41.26 | nbah | and allow it ON on desktop session, AFTER login |
| 12:41.55 | nbah | but this is afterwards, I made some startup files to position the display how they are set |
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| 12:44.20 | Emil | Hmm |
| 12:44.25 | Emil | VLC refuses to play dvds |
| 12:44.35 | Emil | was there some package or thing I had to do first? |
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| 12:44.55 | Emil | it's not show in Thunar either |
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| 12:46.27 | BluesKaj | Emil, need more detail about "vlc refuses to play" |
| 12:46.52 | nbah | anywhere I should place my question otherwise? |
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| 12:47.46 | Emil | BluesKaj: DVDRead could not open the disc "/dev/sr0". VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details. |
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| 12:48.02 | hicks_ | Don't you need something extra installed to allow vlc to decrypt dvds? |
| 12:48.05 | Emil | Going to Sauna |
| 12:48.13 | Emil | will be back in an hour |
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| 13:54.38 | hypn0 | https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs#DVD_Playback Emil |
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| 14:00.37 | Emil | alrighty back |
| 14:01.30 | Emil | hypn0: it's alrady installed |
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| 14:11.24 | Emil | I have sr 3:0:0:0: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray in dmesg |
| 14:11.32 | Emil | so it should be connected, right? |
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| 14:15.51 | t3st3r | Emil> it seems it is. |
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| 14:16.55 | Emil | So it should be a software issue but I'm at a loss of how to continue debugging :D |
| 14:17.01 | t3st3r | kernel also usually reports drive model and so on |
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| 14:18.36 | Emil | Ah could it be the Debian multimedia one |
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| 14:59.27 | BluesKaj | Emil, check the DRM ? |
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| 15:15.50 | JohnA | I run a debian server. one of the services I use is webdav, ? is is there something 'better' than webdav? |
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| 15:25.32 | alkisg | JohnA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV#Alternatives_to_WebDAV ? |
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| 15:36.32 | JohnA | alkisg, thanks. but doesn't answer the ? 'better'. |
| 15:36.32 | nbah | hell |
| 15:36.35 | nbah | hello |
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| 15:37.27 | aokfire | Hi, just did a big move from NTFS -> EXT4, but the final sizes are slightly concerning: |
| 15:38.36 | aokfire | https://arin.ga/NVXiwo/raw |
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| 15:39.08 | aokfire | FS as listed. Is this normal? The data was moved 1:1, I'm surprised there's that much more space used on the EXT4. Is it just how EXT4 handles data? |
| 15:39.13 | nbah | in a multi head monitor setup, how to make GUI login manager user/password prompt display only in laptop? xorg.conf.d, no? what should be edited? |
| 15:39.14 | aokfire | I did not use something like -T largefile |
| 15:39.17 | aokfire | thx |
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| 15:41.35 | somiaj | aokfire: what command did you use to copy the data? |
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| 15:41.59 | aokfire | rsync -rtv --progress --log-file=log.log /mnt/source/thedir /mnt/dest |
| 15:42.06 | aokfire | was just one directory to finish up |
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| 15:42.31 | aokfire | i feel it's related to how EXT4 stores files, but... not 100% familiar so |
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| 15:43.00 | dpat | aokfire: what is the output of: fdisk -l | grep Disk |
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| 15:43.10 | somiaj | block size can have stuff to do with it. Also reserved space in ext4 file systems don't always work right when you use that much data on it. |
| 15:43.22 | somiaj | but I don't know enough details to say forsure. |
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| 15:44.07 | aokfire | dpat https://arin.ga/PTyk97/raw |
| 15:44.12 | aokfire | they're identical drives |
| 15:44.22 | somiaj | but it could be just reserved space, by default 5% of an ext4 file system is reserved for root only |
| 15:44.27 | aokfire | euhh |
| 15:45.01 | aokfire | I think I formatted the ext4 with that option off |
| 15:45.13 | metastable | aokfire: There's a sure-fire way to validate this. |
| 15:45.27 | aokfire | mkfs.ext4 -m 0 /dev/sdb |
| 15:45.30 | somiaj | also found info that it could deal with the number of i-nodes the file system reserved. |
| 15:45.35 | metastable | ^ |
| 15:45.35 | aokfire | yeah |
| 15:45.38 | aokfire | metastable what you suggest? |
| 15:45.45 | metastable | On a filesystem that large, inodes will consume a ton of space. |
| 15:46.01 | aokfire | hm |
| 15:46.09 | aokfire | I also did a tree -a on both dirs on both drives |
| 15:46.11 | aokfire | identical |
| 15:46.24 | aokfire | so every file is there, but I guess it comes down to inodes with ext4 |
| 15:46.34 | metastable | aokfire: Could sha1sum the entire directory tree on both and diff the files. |
| 15:46.40 | aokfire | ouch |
| 15:46.42 | metastable | If you want to ACTUALLY verify the data. |
| 15:46.44 | aokfire | thatll take forever lol |
| 15:46.49 | aokfire | I figured rsync would, but... |
| 15:46.55 | aokfire | not without --checksum it seems, which is slow |
| 15:47.04 | aokfire | the source drive is going into cold storage now |
| 15:47.21 | aokfire | so if something is amiss I could just push from the source drive. |
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| 15:48.05 | somiaj | aokfire: note since you removed the reserved block size to 0, when that drive gets full it will fragment and take up more space. |
| 15:48.15 | aokfire | ah |
| 15:48.19 | aokfire | is that bad or |
| 15:48.24 | aokfire | I'm not reformatting this drive lol... |
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| 15:49.41 | somiaj | it just makes the drive run slower, but gogole seems to have others in your boat. It is a combination of things, but over all you have less than 1% difference, but the little thing with inodes, maybe fragmentation (since you have no reserved space), and block size could add up over 7TB of data. |
| 15:51.20 | somiaj | what is the output of dumpe2fs on your ext4 file system. |
| 15:51.27 | alkisg | JohnA: "better" depends on "your user needs"... I don't know them |
| 15:52.03 | blackslide | Hi, is there a way to revert to a recent setup that worked, before installing stuff that altered syslibs, etc? |
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| 15:52.30 | blackslide | I installed steam and my x is broken. I have no input after logon.. |
| 15:53.06 | somiaj | blackslide: how did you install steam? |
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| 15:53.30 | blackslide | I went by the https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
| 15:53.41 | nkuttler | blackslide: what do you mean, you have no input? |
| 15:53.52 | blackslide | it seems outdated since it talks about Jessie/Sid and what not to do on Wheezy |
| 15:53.52 | nkuttler | blackslide: try logging in as a different user? |
| 15:53.59 | blackslide | Mouse and kbd stop working |
| 15:54.21 | aokfire | somiaj https://arin.ga/ODmBvT/raw |
| 15:54.24 | nkuttler | blackslide: have you tried... rebooting? |
| 15:54.25 | aokfire | dunno if incomplete |
| 15:54.29 | aokfire | I cancelled the command |
| 15:54.42 | aokfire | but it has inodes listed |
| 15:54.50 | blackslide | I created new user, but can't login, root is not able to log into X, I tried Alt+SysRq+K but that makes the logon screen also non-interactive :D |
| 15:55.02 | blackslide | I have to force shutdown after I try to logon |
| 15:55.05 | nbah | any guidance? what? just remove monitor section referring the external VGA monitor? |
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| 15:55.50 | nkuttler | blackslide: how did you create a user without input? |
| 15:55.54 | somiaj | blackslide: so you added the 'jessie' source to a 'wheezy' install? |
| 15:55.58 | blackslide | no |
| 15:55.59 | aokfire | oh no |
| 15:56.04 | aokfire | phew |
| 15:56.17 | blackslide | I have non-free and contrib in the sources |
| 15:56.22 | somiaj | blackslide: so describe what you did. |
| 15:56.22 | blackslide | just apt install steam |
| 15:56.48 | somiaj | blackslide: can we see the output of 'apt policy' and 'apt policy steam' |
| 15:57.18 | somiaj | blackslide: also do you use nvidia drivers or some other graphic driver? |
| 15:57.49 | blackslide | I only have intel integrated |
| 15:58.02 | JohnA | alkisg, its a family server, I have 3 android, 2 laptop. various family members are similarly equipped. total of about 20+ devices. needs are file sharing, calendar and addresses, photos ... |
| 15:58.47 | blackslide | but as the installation instructions insisted on i386 driver I got xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 and ...xorg-core:i386 and ...video-abi23:i386 |
| 15:58.53 | somiaj | aokfire: not really sure on the culprit, but it is probably a mix of inodes, block size, how the data was palced on the blocks, and fragmentation given you don't have reserved blocks and ext4 file systems don't work as well when they get filled (why there should be at least some resreved blcoks). Note the difference is only about 1% which isn't too bad if you consider the blocksize/inodes could be way |
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| 15:58.59 | somiaj | different than ntfs. |
| 15:59.19 | blackslide | steam installed fine.. after reboot, I can login but have no control over anything.. |
| 15:59.25 | JohnA | alkisg, I setup the server about 10yrs ago. its worked v well, but I wonder if there might be a "better' way? |
| 15:59.46 | somiaj | blackslide: why did you install all those amd driver packages, for intel? |
| 16:00.04 | somiaj | blackslide: seems like you messed with your xorg configuration by installing some drivers for amd |
| 16:00.10 | blackslide | aha, xorg core and abi23 are not for intel? |
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| 16:01.06 | somiaj | blackslide: considering it is only a virtual package in stretch. I'm still waiting for the output of the commands I asked for |
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| 16:01.47 | blackslide | I'm still trying to figure out how I could paste something from the console |
| 16:01.52 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 16:01.52 | dpkg | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 16:02.13 | blackslide | ah, thanks, that's rather great |
| 16:03.27 | alkisg | JohnA: if you need all those, perhaps setup nextcloud then? |
| 16:04.46 | blackslide | apt policy is http://paste.debian.net/1009761 and apt policy steam is at http:/paste.debian.net/1009762 |
| 16:04.46 | apt | ...but policy is already something else... |
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| 16:06.28 | JohnA | alkisg, thanks. |
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| 16:06.48 | somiaj | blackslide: you did something with your xorg setup, and it might just require debugging it. So I would first boot into a console, check for any xorg.conf files in /etc/X11/ or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, check your xorg logs and see what your server is detecting. |
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| 16:07.30 | blackslide | okay, I'll check what they look like |
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| 16:10.19 | blackslide | umm... I've got no xord.conf in /etc/X11/ nor do I have xorg.conf.d folder under X11 either |
| 16:10.46 | blackslide | I'm using the default Debian desktop environment (gdm3) |
| 16:10.50 | somiaj | so in this case it is what xorg is detecting, you can look at the xorg log and use startx to try to debug what your machine is doing. |
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| 16:11.27 | somiaj | I also wonder if maybe there is a waylend issue here, but unsure. That xorg-video-abi-23 package you said you insatlled seems strange to me, because it is only a virtual package so I wonder what it pulled in. |
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| 16:21.28 | blackslide | So I killed gnome, but I have no idea how to start it, startx, xdm and xinit are not found? |
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| 16:22.39 | yokisuci | blackslide: Are not found? =/ What have you done? and doesn't the debian with gnome use gdm3? |
| 16:22.55 | mtn | blackslide: systemctl start gdm or gdm3, not sure which |
| 16:23.12 | blackslide | ah yea, gdm3 |
| 16:23.24 | blackslide | sry, was looking at xserver manpage... |
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| 16:23.40 | ruck4444 | any system admin here?need some help with a small task will pay in btc thanks pm me |
| 16:23.45 | yokisuci | blackslide: Have you somehave managed to uninstall xorg and that too? If yes, try to reinstall the gnome-core package? |
| 16:23.54 | metastable | ruck4444: That's not how this works. What issue are you having? |
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| 16:24.29 | ruck4444 | metastable: i need to install some software and im having problems doing so |
| 16:24.40 | ruck4444 | i have 6 servers and i need a technician to help me install it |
| 16:25.10 | metastable | ruck4444: No. You have six servers and need to install it yourself. What problem are you encountering? |
| 16:25.30 | ruck4444 | metastable: i dont need to instal lit myself i dont know enough about linux but thanks |
| 16:25.39 | ruck4444 | im looking to hire someone and pay some in advance to make trust |
| 16:26.26 | yokisuci | ruck4444: I think you're in the wrong place if you want to hire somone to do something... |
| 16:26.28 | blackslide | gnome-core is allready the newest version 1:3.22+3 |
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| 16:26.47 | metastable | ruck4444: There are websites and such where you can hire people. This is not one of them. I'm curious as to how much you're expecting to pay. |
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| 16:27.03 | blackslide | sysctl gdm3 states: cannot stat /proc/gdm3: no such file or directory |
| 16:27.13 | metastable | Thought not. |
| 16:28.06 | mtn | blackslide: try the command I gave you |
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| 16:28.57 | blackslide | I tried, it then states: sysctl cannot stat /proc/start no such file or directory and on the next line the same for gdm3 |
| 16:29.07 | blackslide | ah |
| 16:29.18 | blackslide | must be too tired.. |
| 16:29.54 | blackslide | now, I wonder where do I see what it does.. |
| 16:30.24 | blackslide | and well, xserver is not up and running on any tty.. |
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| 16:31.29 | blackslide | quite hard to debug stuff with no apparent logfiles.. |
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| 16:33.02 | t3st3r | [19:55:30] <blackslide> quite hard to debug stuff with no apparent logfiles.. <- could be something in journalctl? |
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| 16:34.33 | blackslide | okay, I also found /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf which has a debugging option.. |
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| 16:37.52 | blackslide | Isn't there an xsession-errors log or something, somewhere? |
| 16:38.26 | t3st3r | journalctl tends to log most major errors, even those not in log files, like stderr or non-zero return codes. |
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| 16:40.15 | blackslide | Yea, seems quite comprehensive, I wonder how I could see what happens when I press Alt+SysRq+K or Login |
| 16:40.33 | blackslide | Since after I do either of those, I have no means of controlling the system |
| 16:41.18 | blackslide | AltGr Fx does not respond. But the system doesn't hang either, since it recognizes my android being plugged in, etc.. |
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| 16:42.10 | t3st3r | try alt-sysrq-r maybe? |
| 16:42.30 | blackslide | okay, I'll try that |
| 16:42.38 | t3st3r | would switch keyboard to raw mode, maybe that would do, if its keyboard what an issue |
| 16:43.14 | aokfire | somiaj in the end I am sure it's fine, at least there is free space and it seems all the files ar e there |
| 16:43.22 | aokfire | so it's all good. thanks for the help :0 |
| 16:43.23 | aokfire | :) |
| 16:43.44 | aokfire | one more question. ON reboots it seems that my eth interface doesn't go up, not sure why. anyway to force that to happen? |
| 16:43.54 | metastable | aokfire: How are you managing the interface? |
| 16:44.00 | blackslide | I'll have to reboot |
| 16:44.02 | aokfire | i'm not sure tbh |
| 16:44.12 | metastable | aokfire: /e/n/interfaces, or NetworkManager, or something else? |
| 16:44.27 | metastable | Well, better question. Are you running a desktop environment? |
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| 16:44.31 | t3st3r | aokfire> hmm stupid but working way is to put ifconfig ethX up in startup script. |
| 16:44.31 | aokfire | no, cli |
| 16:44.49 | t3st3r | there're better ways though |
| 16:44.52 | aokfire | ah /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:44.56 | aokfire | iface eth1 inet static |
| 16:44.59 | aokfire | blah blah |
| 16:45.09 | metastable | Pastebin that file, please. |
| 16:45.11 | aokfire | anyway to force up? I think with auto it would automatically ifup |
| 16:46.51 | javascript881 | what do I do when 2 of my network interfaces have the same hwaddr and I want to have them both up ? |
| 16:46.59 | aokfire | https://arin.ga/1uckUC/raw metastable |
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| 16:48.11 | metastable | javascript881: Why/how do they both have the same MAC? |
| 16:48.11 | maxy | aokfire: I think you need a "auto enp13s0" line |
| 16:48.19 | metastable | ^ |
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| 16:48.29 | javascript881 | metastable: I guess due to a lazy manufacturer |
| 16:48.45 | metastable | javascript881: That... No. Pastebin the output of 'ip link,' please. |
| 16:49.13 | aokfire | auto enp and that won't do DHCP right? |
| 16:49.20 | dvs | aokfire, yeah, you don't have an "allow-hotplug enp13s0" line |
| 16:49.43 | aokfire | it's there above with enp10s0, forgot to rename |
| 16:49.58 | javascript881 | metastable: https://paste.debian.net/1009768/ |
| 16:49.59 | aokfire | is allow-hotplug good enough or I also need auto enp |
| 16:50.08 | dvs | aokfire, one or the other. |
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| 16:50.50 | aokfire | i'll try auto hotplug ty |
| 16:50.54 | aokfire | er allow |
| 16:51.48 | metastable | javascript881: Yeah, that's defective. |
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| 16:52.20 | metastable | javascript881: Bad hardware. A workaround is not your problem, getting properly functional hardware is. |
| 16:52.37 | javascript881 | they work fine individually |
| 16:52.52 | javascript881 | let me turn one on so you can see |
| 16:53.02 | metastable | Which doesn't change what I just said. |
| 16:53.02 | javascript881 | oh nvm it'll disconnect me |
| 16:53.07 | metastable | You have defective hardware. |
| 16:53.14 | javascript881 | how is it defective |
| 16:53.35 | metastable | Are you kidding me? You have two interfaces with the same MAC. That is a manufacturing defect. |
| 16:54.09 | abrotman | two PHYs? |
| 16:54.19 | metastable | abrotman: Far as I can tell. |
| 16:54.20 | javascript881 | I can buy 100 of these modems and they all have the same mac :/ |
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| 16:54.30 | abrotman | that's not abnormal .. it's for redundancy |
| 16:54.34 | maxy | javascript881: can't you just set a different MAC? |
| 16:54.47 | t3st3r | so if there're 2 cards with same mac one can assign own mac after all |
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| 16:55.03 | abrotman | not two cards, one card, two ports |
| 16:55.05 | javascript881 | won't I brick the modem ? |
| 16:55.10 | abrotman | (That's what I meant) |
| 16:55.11 | t3st3r | and bothering self to buy new HW due to some eeprom oddities or so is stupid |
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| 16:57.51 | aokfire | I think I might've asked it, but is doing a mass chown/chmod -r bad? |
| 16:57.59 | javascript881 | maxy: I will try |
| 16:58.06 | aokfire | unfortunately when doing NTFS -> EXT4 it copied the source drive permissions which were read only |
| 16:58.07 | aokfire | and root |
| 16:58.12 | maxy | IIRC most hardware allows to write the devices' MAC via register (not permanent, IIRC there is a MDIO register for that) |
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| 16:58.24 | aokfire | doing a mass permissions change wont modify actual files right |
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| 16:59.15 | metastable | That's not redundancy, that IS abnormal. That's either bad design or bad manufacturing. If that's some quirk of the hardware, that's idiotic. In any sane world, two physical NICs with the same MAC is defective and should be sent right back to the manufacturer. |
| 16:59.37 | dvs | aokfire, no but it may cause some programs to stop working because it cannot read the config file anymore. |
| 16:59.41 | metastable | But sure, let's keep screwing around with MAC overrides and workarounds. |
| 17:00.11 | javascript881 | maxy: I need to research how to change mac so gonna take me a sec |
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| 17:01.05 | aokfire | dvs it's all data, not config files |
| 17:01.08 | aokfire | so it's just files |
| 17:02.08 | maxy | javascript881: from memory, something like "ifconfig eth0 hw addr 00:00:00:00:00:01", probably you can do it with ip too |
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| 17:03.46 | blackslide | so I removed desktop-base, gdm and X11-common |
| 17:04.10 | blackslide | and installed task-gnome-desktop |
| 17:04.14 | blackslide | now it works again |
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| 17:05.08 | javascript881 | maxy: than you, I think it's `ip link set eth0 address 02:01:02:03:04:08` |
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| 17:05.20 | javascript881 | but do I need to shut down network before doing that ? |
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| 17:06.49 | maxy | javascript881: it will be much better if you send a gratious ARP after chainging your MAC, so peers know how to reach your IP |
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| 17:09.42 | maxy | but maybe linux is smart enough to do that without network up/down cycle, I don't know |
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| 17:10.26 | javascript881 | maxy: I think I need to to down the network -> change hwaddr -> network up |
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| 17:10.35 | javascript881 | writing everything down so give me a min |
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| 17:14.49 | javascript881 | I'll be back on my desktop so I can mess around with the network stuff on the laptop. brb |
| 17:15.32 | aokfire | yay it worked |
| 17:15.35 | aokfire | ifup :) |
| 17:15.40 | aokfire | thx |
| 17:15.52 | aokfire | only other issue I'm still having is: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683 related to this |
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| 17:16.10 | aokfire | Softlocks using a Ryzen processor and Linux in general. Anyone else have this/what solution worked under Debian? |
| 17:16.19 | javascript881 | back |
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| 17:20.27 | javascript881 | I keep getting device or resource busy |
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| 17:21.34 | maxy | javascript881: btw. if you just invented a MAC, you should keep the first byte 00 because it contains broadcast/multicast flags |
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| 17:22.10 | javascript881 | maxy: thank you for that info, I didn't know that :) |
| 17:22.32 | javascript881 | when I stop both networking and network-manager it says it's still busy |
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| 17:23.06 | vlt | Hello. In a 6 disk md raid10 with a "2 near copies" setup, will the array still work without members 2 and 4? |
| 17:23.11 | vlt | To me it looks as if the mirrored pairs are 0 and 1, 2 and 3, and 4 and 5. |
| 17:23.36 | ArsenArsen | Can a remote computer pretend to be 127.0.0.1 and that way access localhost? |
| 17:26.02 | javascript881 | got it, didn't put the interface down! my bad |
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| 17:29.22 | bitessss | ArsenArsen: if you are asking if a computer on the internet can have the address, then no. the whole 127.0.0.1/8 space is reserved. |
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| 17:30.06 | ArsenArsen | no, I'm asking if someone forged a packet and it arives and eth0, pretending to be 127.0.0.1 will that work or will it be dismissed |
| 17:30.28 | maxy | ArsenArsen: at lest for TCP, it's not going to pass the two-way handshake. For other protocols (like UDP, ICMP) it can probably be faked if nobody filters it |
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| 17:30.56 | ArsenArsen | Perfect, thank you |
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| 17:31.22 | javascript881 | ok I have 2 different hw addr now, but network manager still doesn't allow me to have both interfaces turned on at the same time |
| 17:32.02 | javascript881 | guess I need to ditch network-manager |
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| 17:33.11 | javascript881 | brb dinner first |
| 17:36.20 | blackslide | steam seems to be working without all the i386 shenanigans.. |
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| 17:51.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 17:52.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | how can i make dpkg or aptitude install dependicies for a .deb i downloaded? |
| 17:52.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | so i dont got to copy paste its error output?? |
| 17:52.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | its long.. |
| 17:52.34 | somiaj | Eryn_1983_FL: after dpkg -i fails, try apt -f install |
| 17:52.35 | bitessss | you can run apt-get -f install after dpkg fails. |
| 17:52.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 17:52.57 | somiaj | Eryn_1983_FL: note, that it my not possible to resolve the depends of some random .deb you download |
| 17:53.06 | somiaj | I think apt can install .debs too |
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| 17:53.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | right i understand |
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| 17:53.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | trying to install new version of firefox in strech.. |
| 17:54.42 | annadane | you don't need a .deb for firefox |
| 17:54.47 | annadane | see wiki.debian.org/Firefox |
| 17:56.04 | somiaj | Eryn_1983_FL: where did you get this .deb you download? If you got it from sid, it won't install in stretch. |
| 17:56.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmm |
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| 17:57.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok ill follo what they got but i want a newer version its slow and freezes |
| 17:57.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | updating packages now |
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| 17:59.21 | alkisg | Eryn_1983_FL: apt install ./file.deb |
| 18:00.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah i ried that |
| 18:00.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | following the wiki instead |
| 18:00.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | was some other repo, |
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| 18:03.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | be back in a few getting food |
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| 19:14.59 | dracc | As far as I can tell, the Nexus 5 have linux kernel support. Are there any other phones capable of running 'real' Linux out there today? |
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| 19:38.56 | enkidu | hello. I need assistance in editing polkit policy for system source refresh. At some point during updates I had my account restricted from doing so |
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| 20:02.10 | zomaar | What package creates /etc/subuid? |
| 20:02.18 | zomaar | It's not a conffile of any package |
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| 20:04.24 | jelly | zomaar, there's a man subuid |
| 20:04.41 | zomaar | Oh, login |
| 20:04.55 | zomaar | Yeah but the manpage belongs to passwd but login creates it |
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| 20:05.57 | jelly | those are built from the same source |
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| 20:24.12 | gamma-x | Trying to get an ap auto running in systemd at startup and keep getting lacks both ExecStart= and ExecStop= setting. Refusing. can someone help? |
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| 20:27.03 | bitessss | gamma-x: so you have an [Install] section with WantedBy=multi-user.target and a [Service] section with ExecStart=<whatever> in your unit file? |
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| 20:28.40 | gamma-x | bitessss, sent file contents in pm |
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| 20:29.06 | bitessss | gamma-x: pastebin it on paste.debian.net instead. others might want to help. |
| 20:29.15 | gamma-x | roger that |
| 20:29.39 | gamma-x | https://pastebin.com/xePi04ma |
| 20:30.00 | bitessss | first thing i would try is removing the spaces before equal sign. not sure if that's relevant. |
| 20:30.25 | bitessss | eh, after the equal sign. |
| 20:31.00 | gamma-x | this is the output of var/syslog https://pastebin.com/2v4uW7zq |
| 20:31.52 | bitessss | gamma-x: does it change after you remove the spaces? |
| 20:32.43 | gamma-x | https://pastebin.com/miiJsNt9 |
| 20:32.46 | gamma-x | new output |
| 20:33.09 | gamma-x | so no, its the same. |
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| 20:34.37 | bitessss | gamma-x: that's after you ran systemctl daemon-reload ? |
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| 20:36.04 | gamma-x | nope, i ran sudo systemctl start xlinkkai |
| 20:36.24 | bitessss | run systemctl daemon-reload every time you change a unit file. |
| 20:37.24 | enkidu | I'll ask again: how to make (in Debian way) polkit allow my regular user to refresh system sources? |
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| 20:40.11 | gamma-x | bitessss, new output on syslog https://pastebin.com/yWGzRvEL |
| 20:40.18 | gamma-x | after reloading and starting |
| 20:41.12 | gamma-x | Do i need to put a ./ in the executable line/ |
| 20:41.46 | jelly | use absolute paths. |
| 20:41.56 | enkidu | only way I found was to edit /usr/share files, not the rules in /etc/ |
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| 20:47.56 | gamma-x | still saying path is not absolute but i put in the full path just now and same thing |
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| 20:48.53 | cocos | is debian's logo still the little devil guy? |
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| 20:49.11 | wigums | thats freebsd mascot |
| 20:49.17 | cocos | it was in 2003! |
| 20:49.17 | somiaj | gamma-x: what is the full path? ./foo would not be absolute. |
| 20:49.27 | cocos | oh |
| 20:49.27 | wigums | no it wasnt |
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| 20:50.14 | bitessss | gamma-x: also check the output of systemd-analyze verify /etc/systemd/system/<yourunit> |
| 20:50.19 | gamma-x | new output https://pastebin.com/WevNB3hR New file https://pastebin.com/em6WfZAZ |
| 20:51.28 | zzz | hey people. im trying to install debian for the 1st time as a vm. i'm having trouble configuring apt because i cant connect to a mirror. im suspect a problem with the network config but i cant seem to solve it |
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| 20:52.23 | zzz | (debian 9 netinstall) |
| 20:52.31 | somiaj | gamma-x: you have to run systemctl daemon-reload to update any changes made |
| 20:54.28 | jelly | with a path like /home/pi/ I'm starting to suspect gamma-x is running raspbian and not debian... |
| 20:54.58 | bitessss | maybe pi is their favorite constant. |
| 20:55.44 | gamma-x | ok so the file wasnt back in /etc/systemd/system/ so i put the file back in there and reloaded and started the file and the new output of syslog is https://pastebin.com/UnzGEJHq |
| 20:55.53 | gamma-x | raspbian is correct :) |
| 20:56.43 | bitessss | "Failed at step CHDIR spawning /home/pi/Downloads/kaiEngine-7.4.31/kaiengine: No such file or directory" |
| 20:56.46 | bitessss | check your paths |
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| 20:58.54 | jelly | !raspbian |
| 20:58.54 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 20:59.55 | jelly | gamma-x, that extra / at the end of WorkingDirectory probably shouldn't matter, but you might remove it anyway |
| 21:00.09 | gamma-x | well the rest of the output looks correctish... ok |
| 21:00.50 | gamma-x | jelly, much appreciated. u guys have gotten me much father then i expected with this :) |
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| 21:03.03 | bitessss | hello zzz. what kind of device is that? a laptop with wifi? did you get a message about missing firmware? |
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| 21:05.10 | zzz | bitessss: i just solved it. im using vmware fusion on a mac and as it turns out i had to bridge my network connection |
| 21:05.33 | bitessss | \o/ |
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| 21:08.14 | zzz | bitessss still, i didnt get why i *had* to |
| 21:09.11 | bitessss | to bad i don't know anything about vmware, fusion or macs. |
| 21:09.20 | bitessss | or spelling. |
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| 21:10.45 | sine0 | how can i find out what package an app is part of |
| 21:10.53 | sine0 | for example dig is part of dnsutils right |
| 21:11.03 | sine0 | but how to i go from dig to dnsutils without knowing |
| 21:11.09 | _KaszpiR_ | dpkg -s |
| 21:11.09 | dpkg | _KaszpiR_: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:12.39 | _KaszpiR_ | dpkg -S /usr/bin/dig |
| 21:12.39 | dpkg | Badgers ate my /usr/bin/dig! |
| 21:13.53 | zzz | lol at dpkg |
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| 21:14.13 | _KaszpiR_ | badger badger badger |
| 21:14.23 | sine0 | thanks |
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| 21:15.00 | annadane | bad dpkg. go to your room. |
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| 21:16.29 | keinek | hi |
| 21:16.49 | keinek | two weeks ago debian stable update to 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 kernel |
| 21:17.07 | keinek | but today in new installation, dont update, |
| 21:17.29 | keinek | this is cos this kernel is still vulnerable? |
| 21:17.32 | somiaj | keinek: if using apt-get you need to use dist-upgrade, and you need to have security sources in your sources.list to get the update. |
| 21:17.50 | somiaj | the install will contain the older kernel until the new point release is made. |
| 21:17.53 | keinek | somiaj: thanks, i do this but dont update the kernel |
| 21:18.08 | somiaj | then you need to add security sources to your soruces.list |
| 21:18.41 | keinek | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free |
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| 21:19.01 | keinek | this line is enoght? |
| 21:19.04 | somiaj | stretch-updates is not security soruces. |
| 21:19.08 | somiaj | !security sources |
| 21:19.15 | somiaj | !security |
| 21:19.15 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
| 21:19.34 | keinek | ok my mistake, thanks somiaj |
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| 21:23.03 | arCABAL_ | I am trying to copy over my debian root partition to a second ssd and boot from that somehow i'm still booting from the old partition. I tried using both grub-update and grub-install but I think somehow grub doesn't update |
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| 21:23.36 | arCABAL_ | the current root partition is on an lvm which i want to get rid of |
| 21:23.58 | Brigo | arCABAL_, you have to chroot in the new installation and use from there grub-install |
| 21:24.10 | arCABAL_ | ah ok. thanks i'll try |
| 21:24.13 | somiaj | arCABAL_: did you boot off a live system and chroot into the new system to do this. Most likely grub is still using the uuid of the old partition. |
| 21:24.29 | somiaj | actually I guess you don't really need a live system..chroot is fine |
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| 21:26.13 | arCABAL_ | hmm i probably need to bind mount some stuff right now. I'm booted into the old root partition |
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| 21:27.32 | jelly | arCABAL_, do the old and new filesystems have identical uuid or label? |
| 21:27.51 | jelly | (they really shouldn't) |
| 21:27.59 | arCABAL_ | nope |
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| 21:28.16 | arCABAL_ | i should also mention that the old filesystem is inside an lvm lv and the new one isn't |
| 21:28.24 | jelly | that doesn't matter really |
| 21:28.28 | arCABAL_ | ok great |
| 21:29.08 | Brigo | arCABAL_, there is plenty of information of how to chroot available. |
| 21:29.18 | jelly | look at the generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg and see if it references the correct uuid |
| 21:29.54 | arCABAL_ | if the mount point for sys doesn't exist, does that mean i should create it? |
| 21:30.03 | Brigo | actually: |
| 21:30.13 | Brigo | !chroot |
| 21:30.13 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
| 21:30.27 | jelly | arCABAL_, you really want /sys and /proc and /dev directories to exist in your / fs yes |
| 21:30.49 | techneeded1 | i need a headless linux app made for my project paying in bitcoin anyone interested priv me thanks |
| 21:30.52 | arCABAL_ | do i really have to boot into a live system? can't i do this all from within the old root system? |
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| 21:30.57 | jelly | also it means you didn't clone the / fs correctly :-) |
| 21:31.08 | bitessss | just skip the live system bit. |
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| 21:32.05 | arCABAL_ | this is what i used to create the backup: tar cpvf / --exclude='/dev' path/to/rootbackup.tar |
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| 21:33.20 | arCABAL_ | and this is what i used in a newly created partition with ext4 fs: tar -cpvf path/to/rootbackup.tar --exclude='./dev' --one-file-system . |
| 21:33.44 | vlt | Hello. In a 6 disk md raid10 array with a "2 near copies" setup, will the array still work without members 2 and 4? |
| 21:33.50 | vlt | To me it looks as if the mirrored pairs are 0 and 1, 2 and 3, and 4 and 5. |
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| 21:34.09 | ezraR | I am having a problem finding the checkinstall package on one of my computers the sourcelist is the same for both |
| 21:34.30 | ezraR | anyone have an idea what could cause this? This is the source list https://paste.debian.net/1009808/ |
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| 21:35.11 | jelly | ,v checkinstall |
| 21:35.12 | judd | Package: checkinstall on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.2-4; sid: 1.6.2-4; stretch: 1.6.2-4; wheezy: 1.6.2-4 |
| 21:35.30 | jelly | ezraR, it's not present in buster (current testing) at all. |
| 21:35.42 | jelly | !why is checkinstall not in testing |
| 21:35.42 | dpkg | checkinstall is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=checkinstall |
| 21:35.43 | ezraR | that might explain it |
| 21:35.59 | ezraR | i already had it installed on one computer |
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| 21:36.54 | jelly | ezraR, testing is often incomplete due to transitions or just plain bugs. |
| 21:37.27 | ezraR | thanks |
| 21:37.43 | jelly | deal with it by fixing bugs, or mixing testing and unstable, or using stable |
| 21:37.48 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 21:37.48 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:37.56 | jelly | !tum |
| 21:37.56 | dpkg | «echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to unstable, then apt-get update. Use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from unstable rather than testing as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution. |
| 21:39.21 | arCABAL_ | i ran this command in my root environment but still getting an error: mount --bind /dev /dev |
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| 21:39.51 | arCABAL_ | any ideas what im doing wrong? |
| 21:40.00 | arCABAL_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.10 | bitessss | trying to bindmount /dev to itself? |
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| 21:42.36 | jelly | arCABAL_, you want to bind mout /dev from OUTSIDE chroot to the directory /where/future/root/is/mounted/right/now/dev |
| 21:43.07 | jelly | likewise with /sys |
| 21:43.10 | arCABAL_ | aha |
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| 21:44.51 | arCABAL_ | too bad, i'm getting this: mount: mount point /newroot/proc does not exist |
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| 21:45.27 | jelly | maybe mkdir it?!?! |
| 21:45.35 | arCABAL_ | i did |
| 21:45.53 | jelly | do it outside of chroot |
| 21:46.06 | arCABAL_ | yeah that is what i tried |
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| 21:46.22 | jelly | and what does "ls -ld /newroot/proc" say? |
| 21:46.54 | arCABAL_ | oops my bad. i forgot a part of the absolute part, the /mnt/ part. |
| 21:47.28 | arCABAL_ | the new partition is mounted in /mnt/newroot |
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| 21:48.34 | arCABAL_ | *absolute path |
| 21:51.01 | jelly | arCABAL_, also do you have a separate /boot? |
| 21:51.07 | arCABAL_ | no |
| 21:51.13 | jelly | if not you might really need to grub-install again |
| 21:51.27 | arCABAL_ | on the second ssd? |
| 21:51.40 | jelly | on whatever disk you're booting from |
| 21:51.46 | arCABAL_ | k |
| 21:52.13 | ezraR | if stable has checkinstall at 1.6.2-4 why would that bug block it from testing? Just a process that doesn't always make sense but is safe? |
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| 21:52.31 | annadane | ,v checkinstall |
| 21:52.33 | judd | Package: checkinstall on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.2-4; sid: 1.6.2-4; stretch: 1.6.2-4; wheezy: 1.6.2-4 |
| 21:52.59 | arCABAL_ | from within chroot: |
| 21:53.01 | arCABAL_ | # grub-install /dev/nvme0n1 |
| 21:53.01 | arCABAL_ | Installing for x86_64-efi platform. |
| 21:53.01 | arCABAL_ | grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory. |
| 21:53.12 | annadane | packages from stable came from testing back when it was still in testing; that isn't surprising by itself |
| 21:53.38 | annadane | oh, apologies, i missed the earlier conversation |
| 21:54.08 | arCABAL_ | oh i made a mistake. i do have a separate boot partition |
| 21:54.27 | arCABAL_ | no wait its the efi partition, and its mounted at /boot/efi |
| 21:54.33 | arCABAL_ | so no separate boot partition |
| 21:55.12 | jelly | that's different and I think you still install grub on the whole disk and let it find the efiboot partition on that disk on its own |
| 21:55.21 | jelly | but I may be wrong |
| 21:55.38 | jelly | don't have a lot of EFI machines |
| 21:56.16 | gamma-x | jelly, mind if i ask a few follow on questions regarding auto start? I got it working when I start it with systemctl but it wont autostart on boot |
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| 21:57.43 | jelly | gamma-x, I don't mind but also I won't be the one to answer them :-) |
| 21:57.58 | gamma-x | :) |
| 21:57.59 | bitessss | ezraR: it got removed from testing because of a bug. stable has an older version of checkinstall. |
| 21:58.16 | bitessss | gamma-x: just pastebin your current unit file. |
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| 21:59.05 | bitessss | ezra-s: eh, it doesn't, but stable doesn't get packages removed like testing does. |
| 21:59.38 | annadane | only if it's unmaintained afaik |
| 21:59.46 | n4dir | hence a mixed testing/unstable system ain't a solution that bad, in my humble opinion. |
| 22:00.26 | enkidu | anyone fluent in polkit management here? |
| 22:00.57 | gamma-x | bitessss, https://pastebin.com/wt8nxUkp |
| 22:01.53 | bitessss | gamma-x: have you enabled it? that install bit gets parsed if you run systemctl enable <urunit> |
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| 22:04.53 | pr0tocol | hello, everyone |
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| 22:08.20 | arCABAL_ | thanks jelly. the problem was that i also had to mount the efi partition before i could install grub |
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| 22:10.36 | jelly | I guess that makes sense for grub-efi |
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| 22:16.32 | gamma-x | i did, it shows as enabled under |
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| 22:33.00 | hid3 | Hello. My XFS filesystem ran out of space... How do I grow the filesystem? Block device has got free space... |
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| 22:34.32 | RoyK | hid3: xfs_growfs |
| 22:35.11 | RoyK | hid3: if this is on lvm, use lvresize first |
| 22:35.25 | hid3 | RoyK, I have done "xfs_growfs /mnt/data" but nothing happens. It just displayed some info and that's it |
| 22:35.35 | hid3 | no LVMs there. Filesystem on bare metal |
| 22:35.37 | RoyK | hid3: if it's on a partition, edit the partition table first |
| 22:35.51 | hid3 | oh.. |
| 22:35.58 | hid3 | not sure how to do that properly |
| 22:36.04 | hid3 | I mean, without destroying it |
| 22:36.08 | RoyK | gparted is quite nice |
| 22:36.22 | hid3 | is it CLI based? |
| 22:36.27 | RoyK | as for next time, use lvm ;) |
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| 22:36.43 | hid3 | don't like LVMs, extra layer of abstraction |
| 22:36.44 | jelly | or put the fs on whole disk, no partitions! |
| 22:36.44 | RoyK | gparted is graphical - works well over x11 forward over ssh |
| 22:37.09 | RoyK | hid3: I use lvm with everything except when using zfs ;) |
| 22:37.15 | jelly | hid3, maybe, but that layer can be resized online without reboot. Partitions on linux usually can't. |
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| 22:37.53 | hid3 | is there any way to do that with fdisk? |
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| 22:38.02 | RoyK | the performance penalty is negligible |
| 22:38.28 | RoyK | hid3: just remove the partition and create a new and larger one, starting at the same sector |
| 22:38.40 | bitessss | if you have space after the partition. if the space is in front it's harder. |
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| 22:39.05 | hid3 | space should be after |
| 22:39.05 | RoyK | jelly: resizing partitions while running works unless there are mounted filesystems there |
| 22:39.13 | hid3 | alright, need to try with fdisk... |
| 22:39.14 | RoyK | just use lvm |
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| 22:39.22 | RoyK | partitions are so 1980 |
| 22:39.42 | bitessss | running but no mounted partitions... wat? |
| 22:40.00 | jelly | RoyK, having to umount is not "running" in my book |
| 22:40.16 | RoyK | you won't be able to re-read the partition table if the disk has mounted filesystems |
| 22:40.33 | RoyK | so - just - use - lvm :þ |
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| 22:40.49 | jelly | more precisely, if ANY of the partitions are in use. mounted, swapon, nbd... |
| 22:41.02 | RoyK | yes |
| 22:41.38 | hid3 | regarding last sector, what should be the number for partition to be "aligned"? |
| 22:41.50 | hid3 | number -1 should be dividable by 8 ? |
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| 22:41.58 | hid3 | or number +1 should be dividable by 8? |
| 22:42.03 | hid3 | don't remember :) |
| 22:42.05 | jelly | hid3, if you can align to 1MiB (2048sectors) do that |
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| 22:42.44 | hid3 | so the default offered for me is 3221225438 |
| 22:42.49 | hid3 | not sure if that number is okay or not |
| 22:42.59 | RoyK | wonders why some people avoid LVM - redhat/centos has used it by default for over a decade - it just works |
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| 22:43.23 | bitessss | because it takes time to learn. it's not trivial. |
| 22:43.32 | RoyK | it actually is |
| 22:43.36 | RoyK | quite trivial |
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| 22:43.55 | RoyK | and you'll never go back after learning it |
| 22:44.06 | jelly | RoyK, redhat also employs d-m and lvm developers, so they make sure it works and they always have the latest. Other distros use some version and stick with it. |
| 22:44.08 | bitessss | yeah, it only has like fourty different commands. |
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| 22:44.43 | RoyK | jelly: redhat has an earlier version of things than compared to stretch |
| 22:45.00 | RoyK | bitessss: just a few that normally matter |
| 22:45.17 | jelly | RoyK, not for d-m they don't, it's often updated in point releases |
| 22:45.26 | RoyK | {lv,vg,pv}{create,extend,remove} |
| 22:45.55 | RoyK | jelly: well, I guess all my debian installations are fucked, then, because I use lvm? ;) |
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| 22:46.39 | jelly | RoyK, yes, you ought to use RHEL :-D |
| 22:46.53 | RoyK | not in this lie |
| 22:46.55 | RoyK | not in this life |
| 22:47.13 | RoyK | we use RHEL at work, and I don't quite like it, so to say |
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| 22:47.46 | jelly | installers of neither allow putting PV onto whole disk anyway |
| 22:48.02 | RoyK | I know |
| 22:48.21 | jelly | and d-i still defaults to "hey let's use 100%FREE for the last LV" |
| 22:48.26 | RoyK | rhel/centos installers don't allow for mdraid, though, which sucks |
| 22:48.34 | RoyK | I never do that |
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| 22:48.54 | RoyK | just create smaller LVs for your filesystems and extend whenever needed |
| 22:49.05 | hid3 | strange, doesn't allow me to set size over 1.5T which is current size |
| 22:49.14 | hid3 | although space has been added to block device.... |
| 22:49.36 | RoyK | hid3: wht does lsblk have to say? |
| 22:49.40 | hid3 | when trying to re-scan scsi bus, I got this in dmesg: |
| 22:49.41 | hid3 | [116988040.774167] sd 0:0:1:0: [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). |
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| 22:49.56 | jelly | partman in d-i leads the user to really bad partition/lv setups |
| 22:50.03 | hid3 | sdb 8:16 0 2.1T 0 disk |
| 22:50.03 | hid3 | ??sdb1 8:17 0 1.5T 0 part |
| 22:50.10 | hid3 | ^-- this is for lsblk |
| 22:50.29 | jelly | hid3, this output is normal for disks larger than 2TiB |
| 22:50.48 | RoyK | jelly: really? never seen it on 64bit systems |
| 22:50.50 | hid3 | so okay, how to create a partition of 2 TiB? |
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| 22:51.12 | RoyK | DOS partitions don't support >2TB |
| 22:51.32 | hid3 | I use Debian, not DOS |
| 22:51.43 | RoyK | well, I'm talking about the partition table format |
| 22:52.02 | hid3 | okay, so does it support only 1.5 T? How to increase size of it? |
| 22:52.18 | RoyK | fdisk |
| 22:52.26 | RoyK | parted |
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| 22:52.40 | RoyK | if you want a partition table >2TB, use GPT |
| 22:52.49 | hid3 | doesn't allow to set me anything above 1.5T, not sure why |
| 22:52.55 | RoyK | or just use LVM to avoid future problems :þ |
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| 22:53.20 | hid3 | Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G,T,P} (2048-3221225438, default 3221225438): +1.9T |
| 22:53.20 | hid3 | Value out of range. |
| 22:53.40 | jelly | hid3, which debian release is this |
| 22:53.41 | hid3 | I'm lost, please help |
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| 22:53.55 | hid3 | Debian 8.10 |
| 22:54.01 | RoyK | hid3: make sure you have a backup |
| 22:54.12 | jelly | hid3, what does "blockdev --getsize64 /dev/sda" say |
| 22:54.16 | hid3 | It's a debian mirror, so backup is around the world |
| 22:54.25 | hid3 | sdb, you probably mean |
| 22:54.32 | jelly | right |
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| 22:54.37 | hid3 | root@debian:/home/hid3# blockdev --getsize64 /dev/sdb |
| 22:54.37 | hid3 | 2254857830400 |
| 22:55.05 | jelly | what a weird size |
| 22:55.27 | jelly | 2100 GiB |
| 22:55.31 | hid3 | originally it was 1.5T but later some space was added (this is in VMware) |
| 22:55.34 | RoyK | 2,1TiB, then, too large for MBR partition tables |
| 22:55.54 | hid3 | not all size can be used |
| 22:56.05 | hid3 | I am OK to use maximum possible size "as per old design" |
| 22:56.07 | RoyK | or 2.05TiB, really |
| 22:56.21 | jelly | our vmware guests have two disks: one for /boot, one unpartitioned with lvm :-) for everything else |
| 22:56.37 | jelly | RoyK, no, it's _exactly_ 2100 GiB |
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| 22:56.46 | RoyK | which is 2.05TiB ;) |
| 22:56.57 | jelly | not exactly |
| 22:57.07 | RoyK | 2.05078125TiB, then |
| 22:57.17 | jelly | and that's silly to type |
| 22:57.27 | hid3 | so okay.. What should be next steps? |
| 22:57.27 | jelly | or to configure |
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| 22:58.01 | jelly | hid3, resize the partition to a bit less than 2TiB |
| 22:58.21 | jelly | that's the maximum size for MBR part.table format |
| 22:59.00 | hid3 | jelly, please take a look at this: https://pastebin.com/qKfwSQSF |
| 22:59.36 | jelly | okay, but could you use a less broken pastebin site in the future please, like paste.debian.net or paste.ubuntu.com |
| 22:59.53 | hid3 | sorry, didn't know it was broken |
| 22:59.53 | RoyK | erm - fdisk doesn't support GPT |
| 23:00.07 | RoyK | use parted |
| 23:00.08 | annadane | !tell hid3 about pastebin |
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| 23:00.22 | jelly | hid3, your fdisk is old. Avoid using it. Try parted. |
| 23:00.26 | annadane | sorry |
| 23:00.31 | annadane | !tell hid3 about pastebin.com |
| 23:00.50 | RoyK | annadane: or something like dpkg: tell annadane about pastebin ;) |
| 23:00.52 | hid3 | alright, will install parted in a moment |
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| 23:01.42 | jelly | hid3, gdisk is ok for GPT if you have it |
| 23:01.51 | hid3 | parted is now installed, but I have absolutely 0 experience with it |
| 23:02.24 | RoyK | hid3: google it or use gparted ;) |
| 23:02.43 | jelly | or just start it and figure things out |
| 23:02.55 | RoyK | (and use lvm next time) |
| 23:02.57 | jelly | worst thing you can do is make a mirror unavailable |
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| 23:04.00 | jelly | (also, giving vmware guests single disks with 2TB size is a horrible idea if you're going to make backups) |
| 23:04.15 | jelly | (I slice ours to not more than 1TB per disk) |
| 23:04.28 | RoyK | jelly: doesn't work too well without lvm ;) |
| 23:04.37 | jelly | ^_^ |
| 23:04.54 | RoyK | and btw, for large filesystems, use xfs |
| 23:05.04 | RoyK | large as in >2 or >5TiB |
| 23:05.16 | RoyK | ext4 really sucks on fsck times when the shit hits the fan |
| 23:05.55 | jelly | yes, I try to limit ext4 to not more than ~500GB, larger only if there's a small number of large files |
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| 23:06.15 | hid3 | data blocks changed from 402652672 to 549316150 |
| 23:06.25 | hid3 | and /dev/sdb1 2.1T 1.5T 560G 74% /mnt/data1 |
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| 23:06.34 | jelly | yay? |
| 23:06.40 | RoyK | looks good |
| 23:06.53 | jelly | that's it then |
| 23:07.00 | hid3 | left ~5 GBs unallocated |
| 23:07.03 | hid3 | for next time :) |
| 23:07.09 | hid3 | thanks a lot |
| 23:07.12 | RoyK | then setup a new VM with LVM, rsync the data to the new one, and scrap the old one ;) |
| 23:07.22 | hid3 | didn't know that a) pastebin.com is bad thing b) fdisk is outdated |
| 23:07.39 | jelly | fdisk _in jessie_ is outdated and doesn't know about GPT |
| 23:07.44 | jelly | the one in stretch does. |
| 23:07.53 | RoyK | the new VM shouuld be stretch |
| 23:08.07 | jelly | eh, jessie will have LTS until 2020 |
| 23:08.08 | hid3 | hate VMs |
| 23:08.12 | hid3 | performance compromise |
| 23:08.18 | RoyK | not really |
| 23:08.33 | RoyK | usually just bad storage |
| 23:08.47 | RoyK | hid3: what sort of storage do you use? |
| 23:08.53 | jelly | manageability goes thru the roof and that's worth a lot of performance |
| 23:08.55 | annadane | i think you can gpu passthrough or whatever it's called |
| 23:09.10 | jelly | also, HA for free |
| 23:09.28 | hid3 | RoyK: some kind of FC @ 8Gbit/s. Don't know other technical details |
| 23:09.33 | jelly | * depending on compute and storage platform |
| 23:09.44 | RoyK | hid3: FC is the transport, not the storage |
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| 23:11.02 | hid3 | yeah, I know |
| 23:11.04 | jelly | even if he tells you which storage controlle datastore LUNs are on, you still won't know if it's raid10 or 50 or 6 or ssd or sata |
| 23:11.11 | hid3 | but regarding the storage, don't know anything |
| 23:11.27 | jelly | and the beauty is you don't have to know |
| 23:11.53 | RoyK | we upgraded to Dell Compellent a year back or so - some net storage of 350TiB with 20TiB of SSDs with tiered storage - works well |
| 23:11.57 | hid3 | some kind of enterprise stuff. Not highest performance (obviously not SSDs inside) but bot one of the cheapest either |
| 23:12.13 | RoyK | we have some 300 VMs on that |
| 23:12.19 | jelly | hid3, why does your debian mirror take 1.5TB? Mine's a little less than 1TB |
| 23:12.48 | jelly | dbgsym? |
| 23:13.20 | jelly | !mirror size |
| 23:13.20 | dpkg | To see the size of the Debian archive for each architecture, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/size . To make your own mirror, ask me about <mirrors>. |
| 23:13.32 | hid3 | hm.. No idea :D |
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| 23:13.55 | jelly | Total2684 lol |
| 23:14.22 | RoyK | I doubt you need all those architectures |
| 23:14.37 | hid3 | if you are a country mirror, you need all |
| 23:14.42 | RoyK | yes |
| 23:14.45 | RoyK | true |
| 23:14.45 | hid3 | so the question is why mine's too small |
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| 23:15.00 | hid3 | http://debian.mirror.vu.lt/size.png |
| 23:15.08 | RoyK | hid3: but please, just setup a new VM with LVM with sufficient storage and you won't have to worry much more |
| 23:15.08 | jelly | where do you ftpsync from |
| 23:15.33 | hid3 | yeah, sure |
| 23:15.37 | hid3 | it was ftp.DE |
| 23:15.40 | hid3 | but let me check |
| 23:15.40 | jelly | oh, you have mirrors of other stuff, not just debian |
| 23:15.47 | hid3 | yeah, a bit :) |
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| 23:16.09 | hid3 | RSYNC_HOST=debian.inf.tu-dresden.de |
| 23:16.23 | hid3 | in fact it's ftp.de itself or some other related host |
| 23:16.34 | RoyK | http://ftp.de/centos/ <-- hehe - centos 2.1? |
| 23:16.50 | hid3 | I mean ftp.DE.d.o :) |
| 23:18.03 | RoyK | anyway - if you have a debian mirror, you probably have pretty good network connectivity? shouldn't be much problem to setup a new mirror on something recent - with lvm or even zfs⦠|
| 23:18.35 | hid3 | connectivity is 10 Gbps uplink |
| 23:18.46 | RoyK | should work ;) |
| 23:18.54 | hid3 | but mirror hardly ever pushes over 200 mbits/s steady. Just some spikes |
| 23:19.44 | hid3 | and regarding new VM, new HW and stuff.. Currently we are having problems with Staff. Most people who were working with VMware stuff left |
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| 23:19.48 | hid3 | so a bit tough time now |
| 23:20.06 | hid3 | luckily the extra storage was provisioned about a month or so ago |
| 23:20.07 | RoyK | lol |
| 23:20.14 | RoyK | knows vmware quite well ;) |
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| 23:21.13 | hid3 | apply to the position :) |
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| 23:22.20 | RoyK | hid3: I don't speak german too well ;) |
| 23:22.49 | jelly | but you're fluent in Lithuanian? |
| 23:23.35 | RoyK | Fluent in Norwegian, Swedish, English, pretty good Danish, some German and Icelandic and Norwegian sign language |
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| 23:23.59 | hid3 | you don't need German at all |
| 23:24.02 | jelly | close enough |
| 23:24.04 | hid3 | only Lithuanian & English |
| 23:24.24 | annadane | suddenly feels very stupid |
| 23:24.32 | hid3 | wonder how you know so many languages... |
| 23:24.41 | RoyK | I love languages ;) |
| 23:24.56 | RoyK | scandinavian languages are quite closely related |
| 23:25.04 | hypn0 | cause they are similar |
| 23:25.15 | RoyK | Icelandic isn't - but I studied it because it's fun |
| 23:25.21 | RoyK | I like German as well |
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| 23:27.21 | RoyK | hypn0: technically, scandinavian languages (norwegian, swedish and danish) are almost as dialects |
| 23:27.41 | RoyK | obviously, not officially |
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| 23:28.25 | RoyK | about the same as American English compared to Scots or Northern German compared to Swiss German |
| 23:29.01 | RoyK | perhaps a bit further apart than swiss/german german, though |
| 23:29.07 | Sir_Designer | there are two Norwegian! and oodles of dialects |
| 23:29.43 | quantum | Anyone know the right way to use ixgbe driver instead of igb for 1G ethernet? |
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| 23:29.51 | RoyK | Sir_Designer: I know - and I know quite a few of them ;) |
| 23:30.24 | RoyK | quantum: isn't ixgbe the 10GE driver? |
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| 23:30.50 | jelly | quantum, you put the right card in the system? |
| 23:31.26 | quantum | RoyK: It is. But I used to use it for this card and I can't figure out how anymore since I'm so old. |
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| 23:32.03 | jelly | quantum, what's the pci id of the card and which debian release |
| 23:32.06 | RoyK | linux will usually find the correct driver based on the pci id |
| 23:32.55 | quantum | Debian Testing and 02:00.0 |
| 23:33.35 | jelly | quantum, that's the bus address. lspci -nn, [hexa:numbers] |
| 23:33.53 | jelly | quantum, also what does "uname -a" say? |
| 23:34.10 | quantum | 8086:1521 |
| 23:34.17 | jelly | ,pciid 8086:1521 |
| 23:34.19 | judd | [8086:1521] is 'I350 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'igb', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1521 |
| 23:34.35 | quantum | 4.15.2-1 |
| 23:34.48 | jelly | I don't think you'll be driving that with ixgbe |
| 23:35.10 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 23:35.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); buster: 4.14.0-3-686-pae (4.14.13-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-5-686 (4.9.65-3+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: |
| 23:35.14 | judd | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3) |
| 23:35.37 | jelly | quantum, what does "uname -a" actually say, and where did you get that kernel from btw? |
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| 23:36.26 | quantum | Self-compiled. |
| 23:37.35 | quantum | Damn, I need more than 7 VFs. |
| 23:37.59 | quantum | ixge use to give up to 63. |
| 23:38.07 | quantum | ... on this card. |
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| 23:58.40 | awal1 | apart 'interfaces' |
