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| 00:08.28 | RoyK | thinks erasmus needs an i386 |
| 00:09.03 | erasmus | why cause I gave him my config and he rebooted and hasn't come back? |
| 00:09.09 | erasmus | lol |
| 00:09.15 | erasmus | he'll be back :-) |
| 00:09.48 | erasmus | all he had to do was reload i3 |
| 00:10.22 | RoyK | i386 has far more digits than i3 |
| 00:10.25 | RoyK | it must be better |
| 00:10.48 | erasmus | I'm actually running i3 on an Intel Celeron cpu 1.4ghz |
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| 00:11.13 | erasmus | it's really quite an elegant wm. |
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| 00:12.15 | expert975 | I've installed fortune, now how do I set it as MOTD? |
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| 00:18.00 | rant | RoyK: less has more features than more.. |
| 00:18.57 | RoyK | rant: oh - really? ;) I learned about less around 1994 :D |
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| 00:19.10 | rant | just saying more isn't always better :P |
| 00:19.57 | RoyK | and my reference to i386 was obviously ironic⦠|
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| 00:20.20 | RoyK | hence the processor from the late eightees |
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| 01:13.09 | slackjeff | hey guys need helpppp |
| 01:13.26 | slackjeff | i run command |
| 01:13.30 | slackjeff | # apt-get update |
| 01:13.34 | slackjeff | and return error |
| 01:13.35 | slackjeff | E: Unable to determine an applicable type of packaging system. |
| 01:13.57 | slackjeff | aptitude update |
| 01:13.58 | slackjeff | E: Unable to determine an applicable type of packaging system. |
| 01:13.58 | slackjeff | Targeting failed |
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| 01:16.10 | klys | slackjeff, what's in /var/lib/dpkg ? |
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| 01:21.06 | klys | if it contains an .xz you may need xzip as well. |
| 01:22.45 | klys | slackjeff, also, go here https://packages.debian.org |
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| 01:24.26 | slackjeff | klys, |
| 01:24.27 | slackjeff | ok |
| 01:24.34 | slackjeff | now i copy the directorys? |
| 01:24.45 | slackjeff | etc/ sbin/ usr/ var/ |
| 01:24.46 | slackjeff | ? |
| 01:24.51 | klys | slackjeff, cp -a to / |
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| 01:28.58 | slackjeff | klys, ty man |
| 01:29.01 | slackjeff | solved |
| 01:30.21 | hemebond | Is it correct that critical bug fixes will be backported/released for testing after unstable? |
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| 01:31.45 | klys | hemebond, backports are at http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists |
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| 01:34.02 | hemebond | Does that apply for new package versions? |
| 01:34.18 | hemebond | I'm trying to figure out if ppp 2.4.7-2+2 will be released to testing. |
| 01:34.43 | klys | hemebond, there are testing backports in debian, yea. |
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| 01:35.02 | hemebond | Do I need the backports repo configured? |
| 01:35.11 | klys | to use it you would |
| 01:35.48 | hemebond | I mean to get the new version of that `ppp` package. |
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| 01:36.28 | hemebond | I don't see a testing-backports at that URL.... |
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| 01:38.12 | hemebond | Ah, I found https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ppp |
| 01:38.19 | hemebond | So hopefully only a few more days to wait. |
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| 01:38.46 | hemebond | Thanks. |
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| 01:44.52 | foo | I'm having an issue where my init script doesn't seem to recognize my new python venv I created. It's throwing an error, however when I take command from init script and manually run it works fine |
| 01:46.42 | annadane | you must get nickflashed often |
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| 01:57.29 | dokma | I need to get a DWL-520+ chuggin along on Debian. Is it possible to just use a kernel module from Ubuntu? |
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| 01:57.50 | dokma | It's a acx100 which is notoriously badly supported. |
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| 02:06.56 | walterve | Hi there, I am a system engineer with experience on RT, OpenLDAP, Docker, Jenkins etc, do the debian project needs hands on infrastructure? |
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| 02:09.22 | awal1 | walterve, check https://www.debian.org/intro/help |
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| 02:09.40 | walterve | thank you awal1 |
| 02:11.18 | walterve | seems like the only way is becoming a DM and then DD |
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| 02:16.11 | annadane | walterve, debian does accept hardware donations, if that's what you meant by infrastructure |
| 02:16.47 | walterve | I mean by infrastructure people doing sysops stuff |
| 02:16.57 | walterve | over debian infrastructure |
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| 03:58.01 | foo | I have this init script: https://paste.ofcode.org/qWWwy3vSCUfCKtUHg5XztG - when I service myapp start, it looks like there are two processes when I do ps aux|grep my app |
| 03:58.32 | foo | Is that normal? |
| 03:58.46 | martian67 | is one of them grep |
| 03:58.58 | martian67 | (pgrep fixes this issue) |
| 03:59.57 | foo | martian67: haha, no - seen that before |
| 04:00.14 | martian67 | then shouldnt there be three processes :) |
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| 04:00.31 | foo | I'm only including the gunicorn one :) |
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| 04:11.13 | foo | martian67: here: https://paste.ofcode.org/gz72TL7MuC9wKwGThPLfg7 |
| 04:11.18 | foo | there should only be one, right? |
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| 04:14.49 | martian67 | id say so foo but i have no idea |
| 04:14.54 | martian67 | not the person to ask |
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| 05:13.20 | herekun | hi for all? can anyone to help me with my storage? |
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| 05:16.54 | annadane | herekun, just ask your question anyway |
| 05:17.16 | herekun | help me, please. I have home storage with my gay & furry porn, and I want to have best perfomance on it. now I use 4 3Par's with totaly 200Tb of space. I use ocfs2 and FC fabric to connect my home computers to it. |
| 05:17.16 | herekun | I use thunderblot to PCI-e adapted with fibr |
| 05:17.16 | herekun | echannel card to delivery my gay porn to my macbook pro. I use SAN on FC on Silkworms 200E as SAN-core; But now I think, that I need to move to Ceph on ZFS to best mobility and my integrity. I want to use "proxy" servers with FC connection to SAN and ethernet and infiniband connection to my LAN. |
| 05:17.16 | herekun | I think, that I can migrate my gay & furry porn to new FS over restore from tape LTO-6 backup. but it is a lot of work to do it. on my place what did you with your's gay furry porn storages? migrate from cluster FS to distributed FS or not |
| 05:18.27 | herekun | annadane: ? |
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| 05:26.54 | awal1 | :D |
| 05:28.04 | herekun | awal1: ? |
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| 05:28.53 | awal1 | herekun bored tonight? |
| 05:29.14 | herekun | awal1: why did you think so? |
| 05:30.08 | awal1 | herekun, I am busy now |
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| 05:30.34 | herekun | awal1: fap-mode enabled? |
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| 10:32.20 | clemens3 | hmm, for ruby, which package contains the gem command? I am on Jessie.. thnx! |
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| 10:33.35 | hexhaxtron | Hi! I got many users using my SSH service and recently the load average is about 5000 |
| 10:33.40 | hexhaxtron | The system is very very slow. What should I do? |
| 10:33.49 | hexhaxtron | I'm running this command to see who is using the most CPU but it's been half a hour so far. |
| 10:33.53 | hexhaxtron | ps aux | sort -nrk 3,3 | head -n 5 |
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| 10:37.57 | BanHammor | htop can do that more easily, and some jobs may be invisible due to you not having root perms |
| 10:38.19 | hexhaxtron | BanHammor: I'm root too and htop seems to freeze. |
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| 10:41.03 | jelly | hexhaxtron: what does "free" say? |
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| 10:42.31 | hexhaxtron | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/1012534/ |
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| 10:45.22 | slax0r | try top instead if htop freezes |
| 10:45.56 | hexhaxtron | slax0r: I think it's not freezing but it's taking very long such as 'w' and 'ps aux'. |
| 10:46.06 | cybrNaut | xdg-mime query default image/png <= this only gives the default app for opening a PNG file. How can I list all available apps on the system for a given filetype? |
| 10:46.51 | jelly | hexhaxtron: do you have per-user process limits? |
| 10:46.59 | hexhaxtron | jelly: I think not. |
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| 10:47.13 | jelly | hexhaxtron: do you have per-user cgroups cpu% limits? |
| 10:47.18 | hexhaxtron | I don't. |
| 10:47.46 | jelly | hexhaxtron: then you probably don't want to run a public shell server. <evil laugh> |
| 10:48.33 | hexhaxtron | jelly: can you help me fix it? And bring system back to normal? |
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| 10:49.28 | jelly | hexhaxtron: the easiest thing to do is push the little reboot button |
| 10:49.33 | hexhaxtron | I know... |
| 10:49.41 | hexhaxtron | But there must be another way... |
| 10:49.48 | jelly | that's also the fastest way |
| 10:49.57 | cybrNaut | hexhaxtron: the graceful thing to do is to suspend the top consumer, w/out killing it |
| 10:50.08 | hexhaxtron | I got an uptime of 140 days and I wanted to keep it. :) |
| 10:50.47 | slax0r | is uptime a measurment of something? |
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| 10:51.10 | elevated | of the time being up, i guess |
| 10:51.47 | slax0r | yeah, but I mean, the longer that time, does it mean that you are somehow better? |
| 10:52.09 | elevated | only if you're dropbox or gcp or something |
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| 10:52.27 | elevated | but people like their metrics, i guess |
| 10:52.50 | slax0r | just checked, 302 days on this server, does this mean I'm better than hexhaxtron ? |
| 10:52.56 | uptime | Yes. |
| 10:53.21 | slax0r | dances like he just doesn't care |
| 10:54.12 | elevated | but you do, you do care :) |
| 10:55.43 | cybrNaut | skilled admins don't kill the whole system if something isn't right.. they fix the problem, which is why the uptime is a measure of a well-maintained system |
| 10:56.24 | Sia- | hi, can't fix this read onley file system. http://dpaste.com/2SM68BX |
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| 11:00.02 | clemens3 | regarding gem command, it actually comes with the ruby package, just is named gem2.1.. |
| 11:00.02 | BanHammor | Sia-, are those 6 lines it? No more output? |
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| 11:00.18 | hexhaxtron | jelly: can you help me fix the very high load average? |
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| 11:02.03 | hexhaxtron | jelly: this is top: https://paste.debian.net/1012540/ |
| 11:02.38 | Sia- | BanHammor, http://dpaste.com/186CYJN |
| 11:04.01 | BanHammor | okay, so that sounds...normal. |
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| 11:26.44 | alexas | any mosh users here? |
| 11:27.16 | alexas | I have a server with non root prevelegies and I can't connect using it to it I asked sysadmin to open the ports but I need further advice it seems |
| 11:27.27 | oo_miguel | I defined a simple wrapper function inside my .bashrc that tunes some parameters to a specific programm. I would also like to utilize the same behaviour when I open this programm from X. However .bashrc is not read then obviously. What is the recommended way to share this function between bash and 'X' ? |
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| 11:31.58 | BanHammor | oo_miguel, edit the .desktop file to use your function. |
| 11:32.40 | JustASlacker | is there a way to search for files via apt |
| 11:32.43 | JustASlacker | I need to get libICE.so.6 |
| 11:33.23 | BanHammor | install apt-file and use "apt-file search" |
| 11:34.15 | JustASlacker | thx |
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| 11:42.51 | oo_miguel | BanHammor: hmm ok, thank you. |
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| 11:44.13 | BluesKaj | 'Morning |
| 11:45.20 | alexas | ok no mosh users here |
| 11:45.32 | BanHammor | mosh? |
| 11:45.54 | alexas | mobile shell |
| 11:46.01 | alexas | it's kind of ssh updated stuff |
| 11:46.14 | alexas | mosh.org |
| 11:46.25 | alexas | I have it installed on debian server |
| 11:46.31 | alexas | but can't connect to it from my linux |
| 11:48.17 | alexas | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=817929;msg=79 |
| 11:48.18 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/817929 in mosh (closed): «mosh fails to connect, giving a UDP error»; severity: grave; opened: 2016-03-11; last modified: 2016-04-26. |
| 11:49.02 | die7 | alexas: FW? |
| 11:50.39 | alexas | well I explisitly asked my sisadmin to open certain ports and he said he did I have no reason to doubt it |
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| 11:52.11 | babilen | alexas: There are most likely multiple mosh users here, but it might not be entirely sure what your exact problem is or how you want us to help |
| 11:52.18 | babilen | s/sure/clear |
| 11:53.16 | die7 | alexas: can you login to this server, do you see socket? |
| 11:53.22 | babilen | Start with "What is the exact error?", "Which ports (tcp/udp) did you asked for and which have been opened exactly?", ... |
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| 11:53.40 | die7 | can you run tcpdump and filtering your ip |
| 11:53.43 | babilen | Peruse http://paste.debian.net as you see fit |
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| 11:53.52 | alexas | well I can't use it because it says the ports are not open and my administrator says they are and the system it is happening to is Debian that's why am asking |
| 11:54.02 | alexas | if any other users here use this and maybe experience the same issue |
| 11:54.04 | alexas | nevermind |
| 11:54.12 | die7 | alexas: local iptables? |
| 11:54.14 | alexas | die7: I can login just ok from ssh |
| 11:54.21 | ghxst | hey guys, what's like the most lightweight remote desktop client for debian 9? I'm connecting from windows |
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| 11:54.38 | die7 | alexas: look for socket netstat -antup |
| 11:54.43 | alexas | die7: am not aware of that, can I as a non-root user edit local iptables? |
| 11:54.52 | die7 | alexas:no |
| 11:54.58 | alexas | so no no iptables |
| 11:55.00 | die7 | but you can see it |
| 11:55.06 | die7 | iptables -S |
| 11:55.36 | alexas | system return error that command not found |
| 11:55.58 | die7 | alexas: hmm, netstat should work |
| 11:56.44 | alexas | yes it output lots of data |
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| 11:57.02 | alexas | what should I look for there? am not super experienced in Linux network configurations yet |
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| 11:57.17 | die7 | alexas: do you see with netstat -antup your app/ports |
| 11:58.09 | alexas | I don't think it's there |
| 11:58.26 | die7 | alexas: well |
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| 11:59.06 | jelly | hexhaxtron: that's not all top says, where are the processes? |
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| 12:05.18 | alexas | die7: can you please tell me again what exactly I should look for in the output of netstat? of mosh needed ports? |
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| 12:05.27 | alexas | sorry to be so illiterate about it |
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| 12:22.18 | die7 | alexas: mosh is server/client based application |
| 12:22.53 | die7 | alexas: if your mosh server does not run , how shoul clinet be able to connect |
| 12:23.25 | die7 | https://www.vultr.com/docs/how-to-use-mosh-on-centos-for-remote-server-administration |
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| 12:25.50 | alexas | ok sorry |
| 12:25.53 | alexas | now it's running |
| 12:26.01 | alexas | but I still can't connect to it |
| 12:26.16 | die7 | running on server side or? |
| 12:26.45 | alexas | yes it's running now |
| 12:27.22 | die7 | then can be just iptables localy or firewall beteen |
| 12:28.59 | alexas | sorry I can't find how to look for locally opened ports through iptables, I believe I can't execute it through my bash it returns command not found or something of this kind |
| 12:31.02 | die7 | from another pc you can scan for open ports |
| 12:31.44 | die7 | nmap -sS mosh.server -p 60000-65535 |
| 12:31.58 | abrotman | alexas: `iptables -L -n` do you have many lines, or just a few? |
| 12:32.15 | abrotman | You need to run that on the server |
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| 12:32.28 | abrotman | and if you can't login to the server remotely, this is going to be really hard to troubleshoot why you can't login |
| 12:33.06 | die7 | alexas: scan for open ports |
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| 12:37.03 | alexas | die7: iptables command not found |
| 12:37.53 | slax0r | are you root? |
| 12:38.07 | slax0r | is netfilter installed? |
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| 12:39.07 | die7 | hmm |
| 12:39.13 | die7 | mosh need just ssh |
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| 12:41.35 | die7 | alexas: if you get error mssage like ´ mosh did not make a successful connection to 312.666.31.11:60001¨ |
| 12:42.40 | die7 | then you know two things: your ssh works , but fw prevents 60001 wich will be used for communication |
| 12:43.20 | alexas | well my ssh works my admin say he opened ports so... |
| 12:43.23 | die7 | alexas: you can start your mosh server on other port like 80, |
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| 12:46.20 | alexas | I should try that |
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| 12:47.24 | alexas | can't see how to do it on first glance but I will look into that, thanks |
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| 12:53.38 | oo_miguel | why is the $HOME/bin path added in .profile but NOT in .bashrc.. If I understand correctly, my x-terminals are not started as login-shells, so they do not get $HOME/bin added to the PATH , while logging in via the "console" gets this? |
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| 13:10.16 | RoyK | oo_miguel: iirc it's not added anywhere by default |
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| 13:11.21 | oo_miguel | RoyK: just did ctrl-alt-f1 and looged in there |
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| 13:11.47 | hexhaxtron | jelly: what should I do? |
| 13:12.01 | oo_miguel | and 'echo $PATH' shows that /home/miguel/bin is on the path. while it is not inside an xterm |
| 13:12.01 | RoyK | hm - seems it's in .profile, yes |
| 13:12.05 | jelly | hexhaxtron: reboot and implement limits |
| 13:12.23 | hexhaxtron | jelly: I'd prefer another alternative instead of rebooting... |
| 13:12.28 | RoyK | oo_miguel: it's not in PATH after an ssh login either |
| 13:12.36 | oo_miguel | oh ok |
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| 13:12.49 | oo_miguel | what Is on the $PATH? and how can I control it |
| 13:12.49 | jelly | hexhaxtron: your kernel is outdated and security-buggy. |
| 13:12.53 | RoyK | doesn't use .profile anymore |
| 13:13.07 | RoyK | oo_miguel: just add those lines to ~/.bashrc |
| 13:13.13 | die7 | what to use to control large number of the server..altertantive to cockpit? |
| 13:13.19 | oo_miguel | I have 'echo $command | /bin/bash' being called from dmenu, and adding it to .bashrc does not help here |
| 13:13.21 | hexhaxtron | jelly: how can I know what's causing the very high load average? It's about 5000... |
| 13:13.24 | RoyK | not sure why .profile isn't read |
| 13:13.36 | RoyK | hexhaxtron: probably some i/o hanging |
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| 13:13.43 | RoyK | 5000 of load is *high* |
| 13:13.51 | jelly | RoyK: he has a free shell server. |
| 13:13.57 | RoyK | hehe |
| 13:13.58 | oo_miguel | RoyK: It is read for login shells only, but it makes no sense to put $HOME/bin there in my opinion. |
| 13:14.03 | jelly | it does not have to be i/o |
| 13:14.10 | RoyK | hexhaxtron: pastebin output of 'ps axfww' |
| 13:14.25 | hexhaxtron | RoyK: I think it's going to take a very long time but let me try. |
| 13:14.26 | RoyK | jelly: it usually is with that high load |
| 13:14.32 | oo_miguel | which iicr ist the .profile there was in my debian by default |
| 13:14.48 | jelly | RoyK: (97% SYS time spent might be anything, memory pressure and TLB, might be io, might be something else) |
| 13:15.15 | RoyK | might be someone running a raspberry pi v1 as a free shell server |
| 13:16.00 | jelly | hexhaxtron: reboot now. Implement limits. Implement process accounting (atop is nice). Then when it happens again, you'll actually have some data. Right now you don't seem to have any way to acquire useful data. |
| 13:16.04 | hexhaxtron | RoyK: that command may take 2 hours or so. |
| 13:16.13 | jelly | RoyK: I want a r.pi with 64GB RAM, too |
| 13:16.17 | RoyK | hexhaxtron: low on memory? |
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| 13:16.45 | jelly | their "free" output did not point to "low on memory", 12GB available |
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| 13:17.03 | hexhaxtron | RoyK: https://paste.debian.net/1012557/ |
| 13:17.16 | jelly | hexhaxtron: and patch your multiuser system REGULARLY |
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| 13:18.03 | RoyK | https://xkcd.com/1820/ |
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| 13:34.01 | jelly | dka: for the second part, learn how to do that replacement with sed: echo 'our $NAME much better than alternatives' | sed 's/\$NAME/foobar-package/g' |
| 13:34.02 | themill | hugs shopt -s globstar |
| 13:34.43 | jelly | dka: then look at sed's -i option (or perl -p -i) |
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| 14:40.19 | deadrom | hi all |
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| 14:42.08 | hpfmn | hi |
| 14:42.18 | hpfmn | I try to update a debian package to a newer upstream release by hand |
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| 14:42.33 | hpfmn | and I'm getting a lot of dpkg-source: cannopt represent chage to ... |
| 14:42.41 | hpfmn | what does that mean and how do I fix that? |
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| 14:43.42 | greycat | What package, what is the *full* error message, and would it be simpler just to build regular upstream into /opt or /usr/local instead of trying to package it? |
| 14:43.50 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:43.50 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 14:44.04 | jelly | hpfmn: did you use uupdate or what |
| 14:44.08 | hpfmn | greycat: openafs |
| 14:44.15 | jelly | ,v openafs |
| 14:44.16 | judd | No package named 'openafs' was found in amd64. |
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| 14:44.21 | greycat | N: Unable to locate package openafs |
| 14:44.21 | greycat | E: No packages found |
| 14:44.35 | jelly | ,v openafs-modules-dkms |
| 14:44.37 | judd | Package: openafs-modules-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.6.1-3+deb7u5; wheezy-security: 1.6.1-3+deb7u8; wheezy-backports: 1.6.9-2+deb8u4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.9-2+deb8u5; jessie-security: 1.6.9-2+deb8u6; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.6.9-2+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 1.6.18.2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.6.20-2; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.6.20-2+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.6.20-2+deb9u1; buster: |
| 14:44.38 | judd | 1.8.0~pre4-1; sid: 1.8.0~pre5-1 |
| 14:45.12 | hpfmn | I try to build version 1.6.22.2 which should be compatible with more recent kernel versions |
| 14:45.34 | jelly | hpfmn: which packaged version did you start from, stretch 1.6.20-2+deb9u1? |
| 14:45.37 | greycat | It's a kernel modules? /me steps back |
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| 14:45.50 | hpfmn | there was a discussion in august 2017 but it seems the maintner is not able to keep up the work |
| 14:45.56 | jelly | it's client and server and kernel-side and fuse and stuff. |
| 14:46.05 | jelly | like nfs |
| 14:46.11 | jelly | or whatnot |
| 14:46.16 | greycat | Would it be easier just to upgrade the *entire system* to buster than try to backport this monstrosity? |
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| 14:47.09 | hpfmn | greycat: I guess not because that would change a lot of other things beside being unstable |
| 14:47.09 | jelly | hpfmn: stupid question, you might not have proposed-updates repo enabled. Did you try that version to see if it fixes some issues? |
| 14:47.13 | jhutchins_wk | !uupdate |
| 14:47.13 | dpkg | uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>. |
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| 14:47.59 | jelly | hpfmn: also, which debian release and which kernel are you targetting |
| 14:48.12 | jelly | s/tt/t/ |
| 14:48.18 | hpfmn | jelly: stretch and 4.14 |
| 14:48.38 | hpfmn | have a coffe lake machine here and to get the video working I need at least 4.13 and 4.14 is in strech-backports |
| 14:49.02 | hpfmn | *stretch |
| 14:49.06 | jelly | okay, still same question |
| 14:49.40 | hpfmn | jelly: is there a way to see what is in the proposed updates? |
| 14:49.45 | greycat | stretch-security and stretch-proposed-updates both show the same there |
| 14:50.11 | jelly | hpfmn: tracker.debian.org, or "aptitude changelog openafs-modules-dkms=1.6.20-2+deb9u1" |
| 14:50.17 | jelly | oh |
| 14:50.31 | hpfmn | this is the discussion I was referring to: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2017/08/msg00012.html |
| 14:50.39 | jelly | then you've probably tried it and it didn't work |
| 14:51.19 | jelly | hpfmn: that's not much of a discussion :-) |
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| 14:51.53 | hpfmn | jelly: yeah okay - but it seems that at some point the mainter was interesseted to update the package |
| 14:52.00 | hpfmn | I mean without any patches it just builds fine |
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| 14:52.32 | hpfmn | I just don't really understand what dpkg-source compares what files to? |
| 14:52.52 | hpfmn | does it try to find out the difference between current version and my build version or what? |
| 14:53.01 | jelly | I don't understand why you won't pastebin the whole output |
| 14:53.41 | jelly | and preferably precisely how you created the source tree |
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| 14:54.19 | hpfmn | jelly: if it does any help ;) https://pastebin.com/WB81EHvN |
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| 14:54.53 | hpfmn | to get to this stage I already removed debian/patches and comment out some stuff about man pages and documentation in debian/rules |
| 14:55.10 | hpfmn | (don't care so much about manpages and documentation at this point ;)) |
| 14:55.32 | dirc1 | i have a tuxedo infinity book pro 13 installed from netinstall iso. I find the laptop temporature is a bit high, sometimes it goes above 75 Celsius. Any package that like thinkpad's that can cool down the temperature? |
| 14:55.33 | jelly | which debian.tar.xz version did you use as a starting point? |
| 14:55.41 | dirc1 | i don't have the laptop at hand right now. |
| 14:55.55 | hpfmn | jelly: openafs_1.6.20-2+deb9u1.debian.tar.xz |
| 14:56.15 | jelly | good |
| 14:57.01 | jelly | hpfmn: aparently dpkg-source complains some files from the source tarball have changed, not just the newly built ones |
| 14:57.15 | jelly | dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to src/venus/cacheout: binary file contents changed |
| 14:57.15 | jelly | dpkg-source: error: add src/venus/cacheout in debian/source/include-binaries if you want to store the modified binary in the debian tarball |
| 14:57.18 | Echo6 | Does anyone here know what Wolfram is / does / is used for? |
| 14:58.01 | jelly | hpfmn: if you don't care about source package, you might try adding -b to debuild call |
| 14:58.14 | hpfmn | ok |
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| 15:06.20 | ghxst | bind9 does not have permission to write to `/var/log/query.log` can I use chgrp to give it access to that file ? |
| 15:06.39 | greycat | Is that a file you created yourself? It doesn't sound normal. |
| 15:06.47 | ghxst | yeah |
| 15:07.00 | ghxst | I want bind9 to log the dns requests there |
| 15:07.06 | greycat | Then yes, you are responsible for figuring out the correct owner, group and permissions for it. |
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| 15:07.23 | ghxst | so I can do chgrp -R bind query.log ? |
| 15:07.31 | greycat | you don't need recursion for one file |
| 15:07.41 | ghxst | oh yeah my bad |
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| 15:08.18 | greycat | If the process that's trying to write to the file runs with effective group ID bind, then sure, chgrp bind; chmod 664 (or 660) might work. |
| 15:08.21 | jelly | ghxst: doesn't bind9 log via syslog? |
| 15:08.47 | ghxst | jelly: I am following the official documentation for setting up logging the dns requests (level 3) |
| 15:08.58 | ghxst | it could be that it logs all things to syslog tho |
| 15:09.15 | greycat | Well, how did you configure it to write to this file? |
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| 15:09.49 | ghxst | by setting the logging |
| 15:09.53 | greycat | HOW? |
| 15:09.54 | ghxst | in named.conf.local |
| 15:10.01 | ghxst | the only way you can in bind9 |
| 15:10.24 | greycat | You placed the full pathname directly into the named.conf.local file? You didn't do a syslog.conf indirection layer? |
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| 15:11.11 | ghxst | https://paste.debian.net/1012581/ |
| 15:11.31 | greycat | 10:06 ghxst> bind9 does not have permission to write to `/var/log/query.log` |
| 15:11.34 | greycat | 3 file "/var/lib/bind/query.log"; |
| 15:11.44 | ghxst | oh wow I am an idiot |
| 15:12.22 | ghxst | nice catch, thank you |
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| 15:15.49 | ghxst | still getting a permission denied :/ |
| 15:15.51 | ghxst | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.08 | greycat | you'll need to know the effective UID and/or GID that the writing process runs with |
| 15:16.19 | greycat | and you'll also need to verify that it's not running inside a chroot |
| 15:16.33 | ghxst | ok so that might be why I need apparmor ? |
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| 15:16.59 | greycat | I have no idea what that is except that I remember people in buster complaining about it. |
| 15:17.43 | jelly | it's running as bind:bind by default |
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| 15:21.39 | jimbzy | Could you kind folks point me towards a guide on repairing broken packages? |
| 15:22.07 | alkisg | What does that mean in this case? Unsatisfied dependencies? |
| 15:22.16 | alkisg | Better paste the command and the output... |
| 15:22.28 | jimbzy | One sec |
| 15:22.33 | alkisg | !paste |
| 15:22.33 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 15:23.00 | jimbzy | Yeah I know |
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| 15:23.44 | jimbzy | http://paste.debian.net/1012583/ |
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| 15:25.06 | alkisg | And did you try the recommendation, apt --fix-broken install? Also, which debian version is this? |
| 15:25.15 | jelly | !bat |
| 15:25.15 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 15:25.17 | jelly | jimbzy: ^^ |
| 15:25.19 | jimbzy | Yes |
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| 15:29.20 | jimbzy | Sorry about that. Got ten things going at once and I'll get that info in just a bit. I'm using 9.0 and yes, I did try --fix-broken install. |
| 15:29.54 | jimbzy | I also tried dpkg --configure -a |
| 15:31.26 | lupulo | jimbzy, delete the broken package. |
| 15:31.34 | lupulo | with dpkg |
| 15:31.40 | lupulo | apt-get -f install |
| 15:31.44 | lupulo | after |
| 15:32.12 | dob1 | ,mutt |
| 15:32.32 | greycat | dob1: did you want ,v mutt ? |
| 15:32.38 | dob1 | ,v mutt |
| 15:32.39 | judd | Package: mutt on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.5.21-6.2+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.5.21-6.2+deb7u3; jessie: 1.5.23-3; stretch: 1.7.2-1; buster: 1.9.3-1; sid: 1.9.3-1 |
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| 15:33.53 | dob1 | it's not gonna be replace by neomutt, right? |
| 15:34.01 | dob1 | *replaced |
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| 15:34.10 | greycat | the one in stretch is actually neomutt |
| 15:34.39 | greycat | not sure about buster/sid but I would imagine it still is (?) |
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| 15:40.36 | lupulo | jimbzy, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27455626/how-to-remove-an-incomplete-package-by-using-apt-get |
| 15:42.27 | dob1 | ,v neomutt |
| 15:42.29 | judd | Package: neomutt on amd64 -- buster: 20171215+dfsg.1-1; sid: 20171215+dfsg.1-1 |
| 15:42.48 | dob1 | are you sure greycat that the one in stretch is neomutt? |
| 15:43.02 | greycat | Yes. It says NeoMutt: ./Maildir/ ... in my status bar right now. |
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| 15:44.19 | jelly | but is vim also neovim? |
| 15:44.40 | dob1 | there is a neovim too??? |
| 15:44.53 | dob1 | I would like a neomc :) |
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| 15:45.05 | greycat | I don't know much about buster at this point. You could ask #debian-next (on the other network). |
| 15:45.45 | jelly | !start a neowar |
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| 16:08.12 | hexhaxtron | If I got many processes like 'bash f.sh' how can I kill them all? |
| 16:10.14 | greycat | Why do you have so many? |
| 16:10.30 | greycat | If something else is generating them in bulk, then simply killing the *current* crop won't help you much. |
| 16:10.31 | hexhaxtron | greycat: someone is bomb forking my system. |
| 16:10.36 | jimbzy | Ah I found the problem. |
| 16:10.53 | lupulo | hexhaxtron, pstree -s |
| 16:10.56 | greycat | Find this f.sh file and overwrite it with "exit 0" or something. |
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| 16:11.08 | greycat | THEN pkill whatever. |
| 16:11.16 | hexhaxtron | greycat: I know it's location. |
| 16:11.19 | hexhaxtron | I'll try. |
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| 16:11.54 | jimbzy | I forgot I had MySQL's apt repository enabled. |
| 16:12.09 | jimbzy | slaps forehead |
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| 16:16.30 | hexhaxtron | greycat: I ran ps axfww &> ps and then it prints tons of '32703 ? R 0:00 bash f.sh' |
| 16:17.06 | jelly | hexhaxtron: whose process is that |
| 16:17.09 | greycat | does "man pkill" help you? |
| 16:17.15 | jelly | hexhaxtron: ps -fu 32703 |
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| 16:17.21 | greycat | or yeah, killing all by UID may be a way |
| 16:17.44 | jelly | pkill is also used for killing by uid. |
| 16:17.52 | greycat | *nod* |
| 16:17.57 | hexhaxtron | jelly: but the PIDs are always different. |
| 16:18.09 | hexhaxtron | And it shows ? instead of the username. |
| 16:18.10 | greycat | that's why you need to find a way to get them all |
| 16:18.14 | jelly | hexhaxtron: you'll have to be fast then :-) |
| 16:18.17 | greycat | no it doesn't |
| 16:18.37 | greycat | that column is TTY |
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| 16:18.48 | greycat | the ps command you ran does not show the user ID |
| 16:18.51 | hexhaxtron | Oh... |
| 16:19.19 | hexhaxtron | greycat: can you give me another ps command? Something that displays the bash f.sh and the username? |
| 16:19.23 | greycat | you're using the BSD options so add "u" |
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| 16:21.04 | jelly | (killing is not the first thing I'd do after figuring out the uid; locking the user out _before_ that is preferable to avoid race conditions) |
| 16:21.30 | jelly | and ps/pkill is inherently racy anyway so it might have to be done a couple times |
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| 16:22.16 | greycat | the important part was shutting down the f.sh file so it can't spawn any more |
| 16:22.42 | greycat | the existing ones can be cleaned up, even rebooting if it comes to that |
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| 16:25.16 | jelly | but you can't trust argv0 in these situations, both "bash" and "bash f.sh" might be a lie |
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| 16:25.24 | jelly | not likely tho |
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| 16:25.58 | greycat | If the two steps of overwriting f.sh and killing the current crop of bash f.sh processes aren't sufficient then we can consider the next steps. |
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| 16:26.14 | jelly | overwriting? chmod 0 && chown root: |
| 16:26.28 | jelly | is what I do |
| 16:26.41 | greycat | that's another way, yes. |
| 16:26.53 | jelly | more than one way to skin that cat |
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| 16:27.49 | jelly | if it's really bash, truncating will make all the instance stop I guess? |
| 16:28.01 | jelly | instances* |
| 16:28.03 | jimbzy | Yep. That fixed my problem and I learned my lesson. Never install the software your instructor tells you to because chances are you'll never frickin' use it in class. |
| 16:28.13 | jimbzy | ;) |
| 16:28.19 | greycat | jelly: only if they finish their current command and then try to read another from the file. |
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| 16:28.36 | jelly | :() |
| 16:28.48 | greycat | if they have already read the entire file into memory (e.g. the file is one giant function definition followed by calling that function) then they will never hit the file again |
| 16:29.08 | jelly | in which case overwriting is useless |
| 16:29.22 | greycat | it prevents any more "bash f.sh" child processes from doing anything |
| 16:29.29 | greycat | same as chmod 0 does |
| 16:29.38 | jelly | right |
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| 16:39.53 | NetTerminalGene | activities animation is laggy here with intel integrated gpu in gnome. is it laggy to you too? |
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| 16:55.27 | jelly | NetTerminalGene: which intel gpu (which cpu)? |
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| 16:56.09 | NetTerminalGene | jelly, i5 7400 gpu |
| 16:56.14 | jelly | if it's older than ivybridge or so, don't expect too much |
| 16:56.23 | NetTerminalGene | i think it is called 830 or somthing |
| 16:56.44 | jelly | that's kaby lake, reasonably fresh and powerful |
| 16:56.56 | NetTerminalGene | i mean, not too much laggy but it lags time to time |
| 16:57.29 | jelly | NetTerminalGene: pastebin the output of "glxinfo" |
| 16:57.36 | jelly | !paste |
| 16:57.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 17:00.11 | NetTerminalGene | jelly, https://paste.debian.net/1012613/ |
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| 17:02.48 | ompaul | why does glxinfo post numbers base 10 not hex? |
| 17:02.49 | NetTerminalGene | jelly, ? |
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| 17:58.15 | erasmus | when you dd a drive and copy over all the data. Should you be able to see the data sizes changing on the destination drive? |
| 17:58.31 | erasmus | these are large disks and I started this last night. |
| 17:58.44 | erasmus | I did a df -h and it shows that nothing is there yet. |
| 17:58.45 | greycat | what "data sizes"? |
| 17:58.51 | erasmus | 4TB |
| 17:59.05 | greycat | Are you dd-ing a partition, or a whole disk, or a single file, or what? |
| 17:59.12 | erasmus | does the command need to finish for it to show the correct size of the data? |
| 17:59.13 | erasmus | the whole disk |
| 17:59.27 | greycat | Then you can't have it MOUNTED, so df -h is useless. |
| 17:59.37 | erasmus | ahh |
| 17:59.54 | erasmus | so is there a way to see if the data is being copied? |
| 18:00.03 | erasmus | iostat or something? |
| 18:00.19 | erasmus | I would just like to know if this is working since it's been over 13 hours. |
| 18:00.40 | erasmus | also I'm not doing this sata to sata it's to an external firewire drive. |
| 18:00.47 | erasmus | which I think might be 400 and not 800. |
| 18:01.11 | greycat | If you had the thing mounted read-write at any point during the copy, you've probably corrupted it. |
| 18:01.29 | erasmus | anyhow I'm just getting myself to the point where I'm regretting not just opening the computer and taking the external drive and removing it and putting it directly in the system which would only take about an hour. |
| 18:01.59 | erasmus | when I type mount I see both drives. |
| 18:02.06 | greycat | that's not good. |
| 18:02.09 | greycat | not good at all. |
| 18:02.10 | erasmus | and I did click on the drive to test it. |
| 18:02.13 | erasmus | ok shit |
| 18:02.15 | erasmus | thanks. |
| 18:02.17 | erasmus | I'll stop it then |
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| 18:05.55 | greycat | dd of raw disks or partitions has to be done when they are NOT mounted, or when they are at most mounted read-only. Otherwise, writes will be done by the kernel to the device(s) and you'll get a corrupted transfer. |
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| 18:06.20 | LanDi | so, I did write a debian-mate iso to my usb stick, but I can not get into the live workspace, it boots, but I can not go ahead from the grub menu |
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| 18:08.57 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 18:10.03 | tobiasBora | I'd like to know, why chntpw is not supposed to change passwords in the debian version? In the man page it's written: "Password changing is only possible if the program has been specifically compiled with some cryptographic functions. [...] In the Debian distribution this feature is not enabled." |
| 18:10.37 | tobiasBora | For me the only use of this tool is to change passwords, so I don't understand the point. It it for license problems? |
| 18:12.20 | greycat | Right before that, it says "This feature, however, only works properly in Windows NT and Windows 2000 systems. It might not work properly in Windows XP, Vista, Win7, Win8 and later systems." |
| 18:12.29 | greycat | from https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/chntpw/chntpw.8.en.html |
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| 18:13.34 | tobiasBora | greycat: yes indeed, but I'm not sure to see the link |
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| 18:15.00 | greycat | Maybe they got sick of people saying it didn't work on any Windows systems they actually have? |
| 18:15.06 | greycat | Maybe the man page is wrong? I have no idea. |
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| 18:15.52 | tobiasBora | greycat: well then why debian packaged it? It's strange... |
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| 18:16.11 | tobiasBora | By the way do you know if there is a more recent program that claims to work on later windows? |
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| 18:34.00 | SpeakerToMeat | Should we still use /etc/network/interfaces in stretch? systemd and /etc/systemd/network notwhitstanding? |
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| 18:34.47 | greycat | You may use whichever one you prefer. I still use /e/n/i. |
| 18:35.05 | greycat | Some people use Network Manager. |
| 18:35.20 | greycat | There may be some who use systemd's builtin whatsits. |
| 18:35.47 | SpeakerToMeat | finished losing his mind, tears off his shirt and runs to the hills screaming about giant snakes |
| 18:35.51 | SpeakerToMeat | greycat: Thank you |
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| 18:37.20 | SpeakerToMeat | If I use /e/n/i is it insane to add a static (net) route via "route" in post-up ? |
| 18:37.26 | SpeakerToMeat | for a dhcp if |
| 18:37.52 | greycat | On a DHCP interface, it seems kinda odd. To me. |
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| 18:38.11 | SpeakerToMeat | It is, but it's temporary, and I've not been able to make option 121 work |
| 18:38.28 | SpeakerToMeat | And can't waste time on this |
| 18:40.18 | SpeakerToMeat | At leats it's temporary. |
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| 18:41.12 | SpeakerToMeat | greycat: Any special reason you choose /e/n/i over systemd? tradition/knowledge? |
| 18:41.18 | Sir_Designer | Joan Chandos Baez Her father, Albert Baez (1912â2007), was born in Puebla, Mexico[11] and grew up in Brooklyn, New York, where his father preached toâand advocated forâa Spanish-speaking congregation. |
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| 18:41.50 | greycat | There is absolutely no way in hell I am going to let systemd handle anything other than the bare minimum set of things it is SUPPOSED to handle. |
| 18:41.58 | SpeakerToMeat | :D ok |
| 18:42.58 | greycat | no systemd-networking, no systemd-timesync, no systemd-cron, no systemd-coffeemaker, ... |
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| 18:44.21 | giaco | hello |
| 18:45.25 | giaco | Why my 'adduser <user> <group>' runs ok but then 'groups' returns a different list of groups? |
| 18:45.51 | greycat | You have to log out and back in to get your new credentials in a shell. |
| 18:46.14 | greycat | Already-running processes are not upgraded. They cannot be. |
| 18:48.23 | giaco | greycat: right, thank you. I've started using tmux an I still struggle in understanding how it works process wise |
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| 18:52.19 | greycat | If you're super-fond of a particular window, you can just run "exec su - yourname" in that window to get a new login shell there. It won't affect your other processes though. |
| 18:52.40 | jimm | hi... I have this asus laptop, which right now is having an issue autospawning pulseaudio... I wonder if I don't have all of it installed? earlier discovered didn't have pavucontrol |
| 18:52.55 | jimm | so I installed that |
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| 18:56.43 | jimm | I'm going to try apt purge pulseaudio ; apt autoremove ; apt install pulseaudio and see if that fixes it |
| 18:57.17 | alkisg | Eh, do check which packages will be removed from that :) |
| 18:57.52 | jimm | it will tell me, will it not? |
| 18:57.56 | alkisg | Sure |
| 18:58.02 | alkisg | Just don't press yes before you read them :D |
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| 18:58.21 | jimm | ok good ;) |
| 18:58.32 | jimm | right |
| 19:00.12 | jimm | it wants to take gnome, gnome-core and kde-full :P |
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| 19:10.17 | otyugh | heya. Anyone here know if there is a way to "auto-execute" a task say, juste after suspension ? |
| 19:10.34 | otyugh | In my case it's because tor service have to get restarted everytime |
| 19:11.37 | dob1 | not an answer the answer to your question but you can check it periodically and start if it is not running |
| 19:11.54 | otyugh | dob1, it is running |
| 19:12.00 | otyugh | just get stuck after suspension |
| 19:12.43 | dob1 | does suspensions reset uptime? |
| 19:13.04 | wabbits | possibly the tcp socket is gone from under tor |
| 19:13.05 | otyugh | does not |
| 19:13.19 | otyugh | might be |
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| 19:13.39 | otyugh | "systemctl restart tor" fixes it, all I know >.> |
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| 19:15.20 | dob1 | maybe you can check with a script if there are some connections by tor if not, restart it |
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| 19:17.53 | Chakka____ | isnt there an @reboot in cron - we should add a feature request for an @WAKEFROMSLEEP |
| 19:18.39 | Chakka____ | Ive got the latest 4.14 Linux Kernel from backportz on Debian 9 - does anyone know if mounting encrypted SMB3 shares is supported? |
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| 19:23.49 | abrotman | otyugh: after suspension? or after resuming? |
| 19:25.17 | abrotman | notes after suspension, the system will be .. suspended |
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| 19:30.23 | transhuman | hi is there a way to limit the amount of memory that libreoffice or open office uses (force it to use swap after a certain point), it has terrible memory leaks |
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| 19:31.02 | transhuman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:37.49 | rant | so I have a IBM Thinkpad running Strech w/ lightdm/MATE and its configured to do nothing when the lid closes in the mate settings, which it does.. nothing.. heh. However if I switch to a console like tty1 and close the lid it goes to sleep. Is this something in debian or is this the ACPI in the laptop doing this? |
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| 19:45.26 | jimm | hi... after purging pulseaudio, autoremove, and installing pulseaudio again, it doesn't autospawn when I log in, and doesn't spawn when I run pavucontrol, however it does run when I run it from the terminal, and then pavucontrol will connect to it and run normally. How can I get it to spawn when I log into sddm? |
| 19:48.15 | jimm | also how can I find the problem, and answer the question of why it doesn't spawn? |
| 19:48.26 | jhutchins_wk | jimm: Did you enable the service? |
| 19:48.48 | jimm | I dunno :) what's the service called? |
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| 19:49.33 | jhutchins_wk | systemctl --system enable pulseaudio.service |
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| 19:50.09 | jimm | ok, how can I see if it is enabled before I do that? |
| 19:50.10 | jhutchins_wk | jimm: It's not clear whether the current package includes the service file. https://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/how-to-make-pulseaudio-run-once-at-boot-for-all-your-users |
| 19:50.40 | jhutchins_wk | jimm: status instead of enabled - but if it's not starting it's not enabled. |
| 19:50.56 | jimm | ok, sec |
| 19:50.57 | jelly | jhutchins_wk, which debian release do you see pulseaudio.service on |
| 19:51.36 | jelly | if it exists, it's a per-user service not a system one |
| 19:51.44 | jhutchins_wk | jelly: That's why I say it's not clear if it's installed/included. |
| 19:52.10 | jimm | jim@asuslap:~$ systemctl status pulseaudio.service |
| 19:52.10 | jimm | Unit pulseaudio.service could not be found. |
| 19:53.09 | jelly | jhutchins_wk, it's very clear it's not there. |
| 19:53.17 | jhutchins_wk | jimm: I will defer to jelly, he knows more about pulse on Debian. My experience with it has been removing it because it broke things. |
| 19:53.36 | jimm | ok |
| 19:53.54 | jelly | I mean, don't offer advice if you have no idea whether it applies to, you know, #debian |
| 19:54.13 | jhutchins_wk | jelly: I did offer the link to create a system-wide file. |
| 19:54.36 | jelly | and that works on debian and is a good idea? |
| 19:54.39 | wabbits | system-wide is not recommended |
| 19:55.05 | jimm | pulseaudio.service is not on my desktop either, and the desktop is working fine |
| 19:55.35 | jelly | right. I have one stretch kde installation where it works automatically, and one where it doesn't. |
| 19:55.53 | dondelelcaro | jelly: IIRC, it should be socket activated? |
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| 19:56.07 | jimm | jelly, do you know why? |
| 19:56.15 | jimm | wabbits, hi |
| 19:56.21 | wabbits | hello |
| 19:56.30 | jelly | if I knew I'd probably be able to fix it :-) |
| 19:56.54 | jimm | heh :) didn't know you couldnt |
| 19:57.03 | wabbits | to test auto-spawn run `pavucontrol` as the "desktop" user |
| 19:57.17 | dondelelcaro | jelly: systemctl status --user pulseaudio; should give you more information about what's going on |
| 19:57.29 | jelly | (it's listed in session autostart. Session, however, doesn't autostart about half the things there on the broken system) |
| 19:57.30 | jimm | did that, it continues to wait |
| 19:57.41 | dondelelcaro | (basically, there should be a pulseaudio.service and a pulseaudio.socket which is starting properly) |
| 19:58.04 | jimm | per user? |
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| 19:58.23 | dondelelcaro | yeah, it should be per-user |
| 19:58.34 | wabbits | there are three ways for pulseaudio to start. 1. from systemd 2. spawned by client 3. explicitly launched |
| 19:58.34 | dondelelcaro | unless you're trying to do somethign complicated |
| 19:58.47 | jelly | per-user or per-session? |
| 19:59.07 | dondelelcaro | jelly: pretty sure it's per-user |
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| 19:59.35 | wabbits | explicity launched is working |
| 19:59.38 | jelly | looking at output from my current ssh connection (not at either working or non-working machine console), I suspect the latter |
| 19:59.43 | wabbits | the other two are not |
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| 20:00.00 | dondelelcaro | at least, that's my understand; you shouldn't get two running per session |
| 20:00.22 | wabbits | not sure if anyone is listening to me |
| 20:00.25 | dondelelcaro | err, two running as the same user. |
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| 20:00.56 | dondelelcaro | if you're running systemd, 2 and 3 should never happen |
| 20:01.08 | dondelelcaro | well, should never be necessary, anyway |
| 20:01.19 | jimm | I don't think debian has a systemd service for pulse |
| 20:01.29 | dondelelcaro | jimm: we do |
| 20:01.35 | wabbits | option 3 is for trouble shooting |
| 20:01.46 | wabbits | option 2 is handy for troubleshooting as well |
| 20:01.56 | jimm | hmm, in stretch? |
| 20:01.59 | wabbits | set autospawn to no and kill pulseaudio to test with pure alsa |
| 20:02.01 | jelly | this is the system where it works, connected via ssh and not the X session: http://paste.debian.net/1012644/ |
| 20:03.32 | dondelelcaro | jimm: we ship them both even in stretch, though it looks like they might not be enabled |
| 20:03.55 | jimm | jelly, any idea which package installs the services? |
| 20:04.15 | dondelelcaro | jimm: they're in the pulseaudio package, in /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio* |
| 20:04.49 | otyugh | abrotman, resuming. |
| 20:05.21 | jelly | I _think_ something in kde session starts the process on its own for me on kde (ok, on "Plasma 5") |
| 20:05.45 | jimm | dondelelcaro, those are present |
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| 20:08.13 | dondelelcaro | jimm: yeah, so likely they are just disabled, which is apparently the default for stretch for some reason |
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| 20:08.26 | dondelelcaro | probably because it wasn't fully tested at the time of the last release |
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| 20:09.41 | jimm | ok, but I too have a stretch machine it works on, and one where it doesn't (the laptop) |
| 20:10.27 | jimm | so what you're telling me is "it works sometimes"? |
| 20:10.44 | dondelelcaro | anyway, I bet if you run systemctl --user enable pulseuadio; systemctl --user start pulseaudio; it should work everywhere. |
| 20:11.03 | dondelelcaro | (you might need to kill of pulseaudio first to get the start to complete properly) |
| 20:11.11 | jimm | ok let me try that |
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| 20:14.39 | jimm | jim@asuslap:~$ systemctl --user enable pulseuadio |
| 20:14.39 | jimm | Failed to enable unit: File pulseuadio.service: No such file or directory (are 2 line pastes bad?) |
| 20:17.17 | jelly | jimm, did you purge and reinstall pulseaudio package during this login session? |
| 20:18.04 | jimm | no, I rebooted after doing all that |
| 20:18.23 | jelly | then systemd ought to know about those definitions |
| 20:18.43 | jelly | however. pulseuadio.service: |
| 20:19.06 | jimm | let me make sure of something |
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| 20:19.26 | jelly | there's a typo. |
| 20:19.53 | SpeakerToMeat | Ok stupid question. I want to mount nfs via systemd, so I'm making a .mount in system, but, my nfs mount will happen over openvpn. and I'm usign openvpn template, so, in the mount unit, should I put After=openvpn.service or After=openvpn@myvpn.service ? |
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| 20:20.31 | evilman_work | SpeakerToMeat: second variant. |
| 20:20.59 | SpeakerToMeat | evilman_work: Thanks |
| 20:21.03 | SpeakerToMeat | Makes sense |
| 20:21.15 | jimm | you see this typo? |
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| 20:21.39 | jelly | jimm, pulse u a dio |
| 20:21.40 | SpeakerToMeat | Aaaand if the openvpn@myvpn.service unit fails to start, the mount unit will not keep trying stupidly since its requirements are never me,t right? |
| 20:22.14 | jimm | right |
| 20:22.15 | SpeakerToMeat | You know, I really kind of like systemd |
| 20:22.21 | jimm | thanks |
| 20:22.32 | SpeakerToMeat | It's like the Gentoo of inits |
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| 20:22.42 | wabbits | :D\ |
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| 20:24.11 | greycat | I'm not even remotely clear how to interpret that. |
| 20:24.51 | BCMM | well, gentoo is an operating system, and so is systemd |
| 20:24.55 | BCMM | and that's about as far as i got |
| 20:27.01 | jimm | ok, sustemctl shows it running, pavucontrol connects |
| 20:28.11 | jimm | would it be any clearer if it were the debian of inits? |
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| 20:30.20 | jimm | let me reboot this thing again |
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| 20:36.18 | maferv | Hello guys, I have this old laptop, P-III, 256 megs of ram. I will use it for open/libreoffice, dillo/opera, youtube-dl+mplayer-480p. What release should I use? etch, lenny, squeeze, wheezy? I noticed that programs use increasingly more ram as they get newer. Has anybody tried each release + some specific programs to check ram usage? |
| 20:37.25 | greycat | The web browser will be the main concern, and since web browsers are only secure when you run the newest version, you are basically forced to run the newest version. |
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| 20:38.07 | beardy | agrees. |
| 20:38.24 | BCMM | also, web pages use more and ram, whatever browser you use |
| 20:38.33 | jelly | maferv, squeeze maybe, and modern opera won't work |
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| 20:39.15 | BCMM | it's stupid, but a p-iii 256meg ram will be uncomfortable for web browsing however you do it |
| 20:39.16 | beardy | And, generally I would always recommend current stable. Try with a very minimal X environment. No "desktop environments". Just a window manager in the style you prefer. |
| 20:39.46 | alkisg | I have a wheezy installation that I use with 128 MB RAM clients; I start it in single mode and then su + startx, to stop many services from booting. Iceweasel loads too. |
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| 20:39.51 | jimm | ok.... this whole time, the user service was disabled |
| 20:40.07 | alkisg | With openbox and an xterm, it needs 25 MB RAM. The rest go to apps. |
| 20:40.09 | jelly | P3 does not have a lot of cache and each successive generation of gcc, glibc, X widgets eats more and more RAM for a basic working set |
| 20:40.14 | jimm | jelly, thanks for the sharp eyes finding the typo |
| 20:40.18 | greycat | alkisg: I would just let it boot normally, and let the unused daemons (there shouldn't BE that many) get swapped out |
| 20:40.33 | greycat | alkisg: if there's a service that NEVER gets used, just remove the package |
| 20:40.34 | alkisg | That needs 80 MB instead of 25. |
| 20:41.00 | alkisg | Counted after echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches |
| 20:41.08 | jelly | alkisg, and you probably can't do patching while X is running :-) |
| 20:41.32 | jelly | apt and dpkg don't work well below like 128MB _free_ |
| 20:41.36 | bodqhrohro | How do I list the packages that are available ONLY from certain repository? |
| 20:42.22 | beardy | ran apt-get/dpkg on a 486 with 8MB of RAM. It took a day of swapping each time.. |
| 20:42.37 | beardy | ..on Woody. |
| 20:42.39 | alkisg | http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4024.0;attach=2512;image |
| 20:42.39 | somiaj | bodqhrohro: aptitude search I belive can do this. https://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html |
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| 20:45.45 | BCMM | somiaj: aptitude can filter by *section*, but i'm not seeing how to filter by *repo* on that page |
| 20:46.25 | BCMM | bodqhrohro: of course, in some but not all circumstances, filtering by section can achieve the same thing |
| 20:46.42 | somiaj | BCMM: might not be repo directly, but there is ?origin, https://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html#searchOrigin |
| 20:47.09 | maferv | I'm not sure yet, I tried Stretch on a different P-III laptop and it's slow, and X is not as easy to configure as, say, wheezy (old trident video card). |
| 20:47.20 | maferv | I recently installed debian sarge on celeron 400 mhz, 64 MB of ram. Compiled python 2.6 and got youtube-dl + mplayer working at 360p |
| 20:47.41 | BCMM | somiaj: ah, i'm not familiar with the concept of "origin" |
| 20:47.46 | greycat | maferv: oh god, if it has legacy video chipsets, don't try stretch |
| 20:48.03 | BCMM | somiaj: is that essentially an arbitrary string that repository maintainers can set? |
| 20:48.08 | apollo13 | alkisg: while it is impressive that debian boots with that little memory I'd hardly call that useable :) |
| 20:48.18 | greycat | the last couple releases have pretty consistently chipped away at old video chipset support |
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| 20:48.57 | apollo13 | even with a single page open firefox is well beyond those 50mb |
| 20:49.06 | maferv | yes greycat, that's why I didn't even mention it, and also because it requires a whole lot more of ram than say, etch, which works with only 64 mb. X + icewm |
| 20:49.20 | greycat | and 64 MB of ram is officially unsupported past... wheezy, I think |
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| 20:52.14 | BCMM | somiaj: hmm, '!?origin(debian)' is nearly useless due to apparently returning every metapackage on the system... |
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| 20:53.07 | maferv | alkisg, do you do web browsing in those wheezy 128 mb installations? |
| 20:53.28 | rafalcpp | ಠ_ಠ<-- how to get this to render on Debian? |
| 20:53.57 | apollo13 | it rennders just fine?! |
| 20:53.58 | alkisg | maferv: they can open data entry web pages, but of course not javascript or video intensive ones |
| 20:54.07 | BCMM | rafalcpp: the eyes are from the Kannada alphabet |
| 20:54.24 | rafalcpp | BCMM: yeap. so what package provides that? U+0CA0 |
| 20:54.26 | alkisg | apollo13: well it depends on what you do with it, e.g. tuxpaint runs fine |
| 20:54.29 | BCMM | rafalcpp: fonts-lohit-knda probably |
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| 20:55.25 | rafalcpp | BCMM: works :3 |
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| 20:55.33 | apollo13 | alkisg: you seem to have vastly different requirements than I do; the bare minimum for me nowadays is usually a webbrowser |
| 20:55.36 | rafalcpp | debian should install such critical fonts by default |
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| 20:56.03 | apollo13 | I do not have fonts-lohit-knda installed and it renders just fine |
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| 20:56.17 | apollo13 | I think the default debian font does indeed cover it |
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| 20:57.06 | rafalcpp | apollo13: well before I added above font, it was not rendered |
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| 20:57.53 | jelly | ,i fonts-symbola |
| 20:57.54 | judd | Package fonts-symbola (fonts, optional) in stretch/amd64: symbolic font providing emoji characters from Unicode 7.0. Version: 2.59-1; Size: 1186.3k; Installed: 2966k; Homepage: http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ |
| 20:58.19 | BCMM | apollo13: same - renders normally in Konversation. i don't know how to check which font it came from though. |
| 20:58.49 | apollo13 | right, hard to say, it might fallback to another etc⦠|
| 20:58.50 | BCMM | jelly: it's not an emoji. it's a miss-use of an indian alphabet |
| 20:59.07 | jelly | BCMM, symbola has quite a bit more than emoji. |
| 20:59.31 | apollo13 | wasn't much of emojis in fonts-ancient at first? |
| 20:59.33 | BCMM | jelly: well, it's also not a "symbol" in the normal sense, but it's possible symbol fonts have included it just because of the meme |
| 21:00.00 | jelly | BCMM, and it's quite a bit more than symbols. |
| 21:00.16 | BCMM | actually, is there a package that can search installed fonts for a specific symbol? |
| 21:00.34 | apollo13 | yes but it is hard to tell what happens in browsers or other apps |
| 21:00.39 | jelly | let's just say I don't have fonts-lohit-knda installed yet I see the "eyes" |
| 21:01.28 | apollo13 | ie the most annoying thing is that I have colored emojis mostly everyhwere but a few standard emojis are part of the debian default font and render graysclae |
| 21:01.30 | maferv | I don't plan to do home banking on this machine... just moderate web browsing such as blogs, wikipedia. I'll try wheezy and see how it goes |
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| 21:01.33 | apollo13 | scale* |
| 21:01.41 | BCMM | apollo13: do you know what package i can use for that? looks like fontmatrix isn't in sid any more |
| 21:02.06 | BCMM | maferv: there's a thousand good reason to pwn your computer that don't involve online banking |
| 21:02.06 | apollo13 | BCMM: no idea, something in fontconfig, fc-query or whatever |
| 21:02.16 | BCMM | apollo13: thanks, i'll look in to that |
| 21:02.22 | apollo13 | font parsing is pure magic to me |
| 21:02.35 | maferv | tell me how BCMM |
| 21:02.40 | apollo13 | see also https://github.com/eosrei/emojione-color-font#why-bitstream-vera |
| 21:03.20 | apollo13 | you will see how dejavu fucks things up if you open https://eosrei.github.io/emojione-color-font/full-demo.html and see some b/w emojis |
| 21:03.36 | apollo13 | that is what it looks for me https://screenshots.firefox.com/nkaJzC83cpUb9fWU/eosrei.github.io |
| 21:03.50 | BCMM | jelly: huh, symbola does indeed have surprisingly comprehensive east asian alphabet support |
| 21:03.55 | apollo13 | you can clearly see the "basic" symbols dejavu provides |
| 21:04.14 | apollo13 | (this is firefox, other browsers may behave differently) |
| 21:04.29 | SpeakerToMeat | Now I only need to achieve vt-less dm-less autologin/start x11 |
| 21:05.28 | BCMM | maferv: how to what? |
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| 21:06.35 | maferv | <BCMM> maferv: there's a thousand good reason to pwn your computer that don't involve online banking |
| 21:06.55 | BCMM | do you mean how or why? because i don't think "how to pwn computers" is really ontopic here |
| 21:08.06 | maferv | what are the dangers of using an old web browser without javascript? |
| 21:08.21 | BCMM | maferv: browsers are full of parsers |
| 21:08.24 | BCMM | and parsers suck |
| 21:08.32 | BCMM | is the short version |
| 21:08.34 | somiaj | BCMM: the origin should match the repo, though I don't know why that isn't working. If you look at 'apt-cache policy' for the repos you should se a o=Debian (or something line) that is the origin. |
| 21:10.32 | somiaj | BCMM: but in testing, I agree, I seem to get lots of things I shouldn't with search !?origin(Debian) |
| 21:11.27 | maferv | I will research on that BCMM |
| 21:12.05 | BCMM | somiaj: so is it just a per-package flag set in the control file? |
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| 21:13.16 | somiaj | BCMM: I see it as a setting for the repo, not the package. The only thing I can find on origin is in apt-cache policy, for the origin of the repo. I do not see anything in the control file for packages about origin. |
| 21:13.19 | alkisg | apollo13, it's not a matter of requirements, lots of schools have thousands of such pcs, and they need to be able to get the students do something with them |
| 21:13.54 | BCMM | somiaj: i didn't think debian really kept track of where a package comes from, after its installed? |
| 21:14.05 | jelly | BCMM, once a package is installed there's no telling where it came from. It's all circumstantial. |
| 21:14.22 | BCMM | maferv: and as for why people would compromise a system even if it doesn't have creditcards numbers on it, some people just want a computer that can't be connected with them |
| 21:14.44 | greycat | For spamming IRC channels, as one example. |
| 21:14.55 | ph88 | how do i go back to the gnome default alt-tab grouping ? it got messed up after installing/uninstalling AtlernateTab gnome extension |
| 21:14.57 | somiaj | BCMM: yea, one could only compare the version installed with the version available in the repos as an idea where they come from. |
| 21:15.01 | jelly | BCMM, some third party repos have helpful policies, like always putting "dmo" in the version number |
| 21:15.15 | BCMM | maferv: in the admittedly improbable worse case, that means somebody using your computer to store material that could get you in serious trouble |
| 21:15.20 | somiaj | but it seems like it is mostly moot, since aptitude search doesn't seem to do the best job searching on that field. |
| 21:15.24 | jelly | but nithing mandated |
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| 21:19.56 | somiaj | hmm, wonder what the l= is in the output of apt policy, such as "v=9.3,o=Debian,a=stable,n=stretch,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64", the others I think I know what they stand for. |
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| 21:23.00 | jelly | apt_preferences(5) says "Label" |
| 21:24.16 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 21:24.17 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); buster: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: |
| 21:24.18 | judd | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3) |
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| 21:24.55 | jelly | no ABI bump for jessie or wheezy-lts yet |
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| 22:07.32 | aarwine | does anyone know where the .deb files go on the debian:stretch container? After installing things /var/cache/apt/archives is empty, and find / -iname '*.deb' returns nothing also |
| 22:09.10 | dondelelcaro | aarwine: probably someone is running apt-get clean; right after installation |
| 22:09.48 | bitess | whats that? docker? lxd? maybe apt cache is disabled somewhere in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 22:10.14 | aarwine | Is there a hook you can run scripts from for post install type stuff? |
| 22:10.24 | aarwine | bitess: docker; I'll look through apt.conf.d |
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| 22:10.28 | greycat | aarwine: apt-get leaves files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ by default; apt does not. |
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| 22:12.03 | aarwine | DPkg::Post-Invoke { "rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*.deb /var/cache/apt/*.bin || true"; }; |
| 22:12.03 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, aarwine |
| 22:12.06 | aarwine | APT::Update::Post-Invoke { "rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*.deb /var/cache/apt/*.bin || true"; }; |
| 22:12.11 | aarwine | thanks guys! |
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| 22:16.30 | mwarning | Hi, I want to submit a new package, but rna into problem. What is the best channel for this? |
| 22:18.13 | mwarning | I tried "dupload *_amd64.changes -to ftp://ftp.upload.debian.org/pub/UploadQueue/", but that was not successful. |
| 22:18.26 | mwarning | (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/upload.en.html) |
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| 22:27.30 | dondelelcaro | mwarning: #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (OFTC) is the best place, but you can ask here |
| 22:27.44 | dondelelcaro | mwarning: if you're not a Debian Developer, you can't upload directly to the archive |
| 22:28.24 | dondelelcaro | mwarning: but that's OK, because you can get a Debian Developer to sponsor your upload through the mentors.debian.net process (or some other process) |
| 22:30.52 | mwarning | hm, I have no idea how this sponsoring works. But I will try #debian-mentors after a round of mario cart |
| 22:31.34 | dondelelcaro | mwarning: the basic idea is that a Debian Developer reviews your package, and then makes an upload to the debian archive. |
| 22:31.41 | dondelelcaro | mwarning: after signing it with their GPG key |
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| 22:35.50 | dob1 | dondelelcaro, and then a debian developer can nominate another person as debian developer? |
| 22:36.07 | dondelelcaro | dob1: yes, but there's a whole process for that |
| 22:37.12 | dondelelcaro | dob1: nomination/recommendation is just one of the parts of the process |
| 22:37.49 | dob1 | several people will decide, something like this? |
| 22:38.21 | dob1 | a group of debian developers decide if someone can become a debian developer? |
| 22:41.29 | dondelelcaro | dob1: the basic gist is that a prospective DD will work with an application manager who makes sure they're up on the processes in Debian, and then the AM and other DDs recommend them to the front desk who approves their application |
| 22:41.49 | dondelelcaro | dob1: so there's a subset of Debian Developers who help bring new people into Debian |
| 22:41.59 | Tenkawa | oh the days |
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| 23:32.54 | rant | I'm making a systemd oneshot service to start a detached screen session, how can I set what user that session is running as? |
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| 23:35.33 | rant | nm, I guess its just User= and Group= in the [Service] section |
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| 23:40.06 | rant | hmm well that was fail.. the systemd service works, it started screen with irssi but failed to load the bot in another screen window. |
| 23:41.59 | RoyK | mutters something about tmux being a bit better than screen |
| 23:42.38 | RoyK | https://xkcd.com/1782/ <-- see mouseover ;) |
| 23:43.30 | rant | yeah problem is I'd have to learn a whole new program and really I'm happy with the features of screen |
| 23:44.05 | RoyK | just remap ctrl+b to ctrl+a and it's about the same ;) |
| 23:44.16 | rant | just thought doing "screen -t foo foocmd\nscreen -t bar barcmd" in .screenrc would start it with two windows foo and bar |
| 23:44.35 | rant | but it only started it with foo and not bar |
| 23:44.46 | RoyK | http://paste.debian.net/1012675/ |
| 23:45.37 | RoyK | well, I've left my old friend screen for tmux - screen is still sorry, I guess |
| 23:45.56 | rant | blah blah blah :P |
| 23:46.15 | RoyK | rant rant rant rant rant |
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| 23:47.23 | rant | thinks . o O ( < pot> kettle: BLACK! ) |
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| 23:48.36 | rant | I guess technically I didnt phrase it in the form of a question like jeopardy.. heh.. but you also sidestepped my issue with a my program is better than yours :P |
| 23:49.20 | RoyK | no worries ;) |
| 23:49.30 | rant | oh, I'm worried ;) |
| 23:50.00 | rant | I'm workin a bit outside my comfort zone already as it is.. |
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| 23:51.15 | rant | http://paste.debian.net/1012677/ |
| 23:51.46 | rant | I've also setup the systemd service on the server side to start a screen session to be nested in that mosh session |
| 23:51.59 | rant | the only problem now seems to be getting that server side screen session to start both irssi and the bot |
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| 23:56.32 | rflec028 | ...any reason to use screen over tmux? (Avid tmux user.) |
| 23:56.47 | BCMM | rflec028: for terminal multiplexing, no |
| 23:56.51 | rant | none at all that I'm aware of other than being old and stubborn |
| 23:57.01 | rant | tmux has more features |
| 23:57.09 | rflec028 | Tmux is fantastic. |
| 23:57.14 | BCMM | rflec028: but screen does a bunch of barely-related stuff to do with interacting with serial ports and so forth |
| 23:57.14 | jelly | screen is older. |
| 23:57.24 | rflec028 | Not an advantage |
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| 23:57.28 | rflec028 | Unless bragging |
| 23:57.56 | BCMM | bizarrely, screen is a full-fledged serial client. that's gnu for you i guess. |
| 23:58.00 | RoyK | A collegue of mine said screen is better for nested sessions |
| 23:58.17 | RoyK | might be true, but that's the only thing I can think of |
| 23:58.20 | rflec028 | "I like Vinyl and use Screen" ^^RoyK, that might be a good poing. |
| 23:58.30 | BCMM | but for the terminal multiplexing stuff that people *actually use it for*, god no. use tmux. |
| 23:58.43 | jelly | there are very little reasons to go back to screen. AFAIR it deals with sessions attached from multiple terminals at the same time better, and it deals with terminal resize a bit better. |
| 23:58.44 | rflec028 | KK. No reason to change my ways. |
| 23:59.16 | gzcwnk | Hi I am trying to install roundcube webmail on debian 9 but I want to use a remote mysql database I have been unable to do this. a) any docs that work? b) how do I get the maintainer toupdate database config that comes in the package to allow for a remote database please? |