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| 01:00.04 | awal1 | "pidof chromium ---» 2201 2155 2140 2100 2067 2065 2041" multiple chromium pids because chromium puts plugins&extensions in separate process? |
| 01:00.27 | teatime_ | it def. runs a lot of processes, I don't know precisely why |
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| 01:06.22 | awal1 | teatime_, seems like chromium gives for plugins and extensions for crashes reasons (if pluginA is running in tab1 and plugingA crashes, only tab1 will crashes, not whole chromium) |
| 01:06.47 | awal1 | maybe also bcoz of sandboxing, just maybe |
| 01:07.40 | awal1 | ps -p 3560 ---» just returns PID TTY TIME CMD |
| 01:07.41 | awal1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.06 | awal1 | not sure how to get more details for a specific pid |
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| 01:08.29 | teatime_ | ps options are weird |
| 01:08.32 | teatime_ | maybe add -w |
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| 01:09.09 | teatime_ | or `ps w -p ____` |
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| 01:14.29 | awal1 | no more info with -w or -ww |
| 01:14.49 | awal1 | same with lsof; just points to chromium |
| 01:15.04 | awal1 | same for firefox |
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| 01:48.31 | klys | hi. I have a system here running gnome3. and gdm3., It's using Xwayland. when it turns off the screen there is some risk od unsaved data loss. I reset the machine and ran fsck before running it again. I have verified that it isn't suspending. there is no setting for it to suspend with normal use which is on. some log messages I read before resetting were "unable to read /bin/sh". |
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| 01:50.47 | klys | it appears to be running fine now. the display is blanked, and it hasn't failed since my last fsck. |
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| 02:01.09 | klys | it has frozen crashed again. I have an error message here on the framebuffer in plaintext. it's a normal error I usually get: [...] [drm:intel_enable_lvds [i915]] *ERROR* timed out waiting for panel to power on |
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| 02:02.12 | klys | were I to switch to tty3+ under normal circumstances, it would give the same error. there is something broken, because my keyboard and touchpad are dead. |
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| 02:06.22 | klys | it appears that linux has not panicked, though alt+sysrq+r alt+f3 has no effect, where I have used this before to regain access. I can ping the ip address of the machine, however ssh to it returns connection reset by peer. |
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| 02:10.32 | klys | from prior experience, I would say linux has lost access to the disk. so it is not likely there will be a log of the events. how can I make some attempt to trace the problem? there is not a history of disk errors on this fairly new usb-sata external drive enclosure, where / is mounted. |
| 02:12.37 | klys | I'd say it took about 15 minutes from being usable to untouchable. |
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| 02:14.35 | rant | do you have another machine you can enable ssh and login remotely? |
| 02:14.54 | rant | most logging facilities can be configured to email logs in such a scenario as they cant be written to disk |
| 02:15.00 | klys | I'm using debian stretch/stable, with a debian linux-4.9.x kernel. I do have such a machinbe. ssh is returning connection reset. |
| 02:16.24 | klys | its logging package is rsyslog, iirc. |
| 02:16.27 | rant | sometimes people dont give enough information, where as you've offered so much its hard to get at the root of the issue. I didnt say anything the last half hour cause I'm not familiar with Xwayland at all and I have very little knowledge of suspend and it just sounds really complicated to me :P |
| 02:17.06 | rant | to clarify.. this issue is solely related to i.e. occurs only when you attempt to suspend? |
| 02:17.43 | klys | I have made no attempt to suspend, not closed the lid, and there is no suspend configured in gnome3/gdm3. It had merely blanked the display. |
| 02:18.05 | rant | closed the lid while in X or while on a tty? |
| 02:18.20 | klys | not closed the lid |
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| 02:18.58 | rant | oh.. so what exactly is happening then, is this happening after a period of idleness or just randomly while using the machine? |
| 02:19.14 | klys | while idle for 10-15 min. |
| 02:20.04 | rant | so it sounds like its something related to dpms possibly |
| 02:20.17 | klys | the display is still lit up and I can still see the one log message I quoted. |
| 02:21.13 | rant | ok well mind you there is plenty here I'm not too confident about helping with but since nobody else is biting we can try :P |
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| 02:21.39 | rant | first I'd say we should probably get some background on the hardware then see if we can manually cause this problem to occur to at least narrow down the cause |
| 02:22.05 | klys | it's a toshiba portege m700, with a wd easystore usb disk |
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| 02:22.28 | rant | lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 02:22.39 | rant | how long you had this machine? |
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| 02:23.12 | klys | a few years, mebby five. it works ok, no battery. |
| 02:24.19 | klys | reboots it |
| 02:24.46 | rant | I only ask that because my friend had a toshiba laptop once that crapped out in such a way that even after a very rube-goldberg bios flash it still would not boot from CD, HDD, USB, or any local method.. we were able to boot (and flash the bios) only from PXE network boot.. and the machine ran fine with access to internal HDD after it was PXE booted |
| 02:25.08 | rant | I never seen something so strange on any other machine which led me to think poorly of toshiba :P |
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| 02:25.49 | klys | my os loader is grub4dos. it has two stretch installs on said drive. I'm using the other one now to run fsck and the lspci command... |
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| 02:27.21 | klys | oh, it appears the usb-sata enclosure had come unplugged from its power strip. |
| 02:29.44 | klys | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) [8086:2a02] (rev 03) |
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| 02:30.35 | rant | have you checked the BIOS settings to see if there is any kind of power management settings in there? If so I'd disable them |
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| 02:30.50 | klys | will do |
| 02:31.12 | rant | I was thinking thought it sounds like it could be dpms and perhaps we could trigger dpms to see if that causes the issue |
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| 02:31.41 | klys | how does swsusp work? |
| 02:32.27 | klys | i you know |
| 02:32.33 | klys | if* |
| 02:33.58 | klys | USB Sleep and Charge = Disabled |
| 02:34.41 | klys | I think that's in case you suspend anbd still have a charging usb device |
| 02:35.20 | rant | yes some laptops only keep certain ports on.. on thinkpads they used to have a green light by one USB port that'd stay on in that case |
| 02:36.18 | rant | I was thinkin we should've tried gathering more info and causing the issue to occur on demand before changing anything.. cause right now the only way to know if its happening is wait 20min :P |
| 02:36.44 | klys | yeah if it's okay in that time I'm saying problem solved |
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| 02:37.31 | rant | well my thoughts were to query xset and see what current settings were, then try make it go into a dpms standby/suspend mode and see if that caused the issue |
| 02:37.45 | rant | in which case its likely some bug specific to your graphics hardware |
| 02:38.03 | klys | I have verified prior that suspend causes a hard freeze |
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| 02:39.19 | klys | which xset? |
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| 02:41.54 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/103002/ |
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| 02:45.01 | rant | your last two messages were recieved and ignored because they are not decipherable |
| 02:45.29 | klys | the output of xset q |
| 02:45.43 | rant | yeah, idk what it shows you, but its telling me that paste doesnt exist |
| 02:46.01 | rant | but I found it none the les |
| 02:46.02 | klys | will check |
| 02:46.07 | klys | o ok |
| 02:46.15 | rant | its 1013002 |
| 02:46.19 | klys | thx |
| 02:47.12 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/1013002/ <-- `xset q` output |
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| 02:47.48 | klys | it has blanked. will see if it lasts 15 minutes. |
| 02:49.02 | rant | I was going to suggest "xset dpms force standby" to see if it causes the issue |
| 02:49.11 | rant | which would prove its dpms causing the problem |
| 02:49.27 | klys | I suspect the hard drive power for now |
| 02:49.43 | klys | if not, will continue. |
| 02:50.00 | rant | well that too is testable.. but we should be able to create the problem without the wait and narrow it down |
| 02:50.20 | klys | another 8 min's |
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| 02:50.37 | rant | "xset dpms force standby" "xset dpms force suspend" "hdparm -Y /dev/whatever" etc.. one such command should cause the problem to occur |
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| 02:51.02 | rant | once you know the actual cause you can work toward a solution |
| 02:51.28 | klys | thx will wait tho |
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| 02:51.45 | klys | s/8/13/ |
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| 02:52.32 | hxmuller | hello, what's the current method of automatically mounting removable media now? |
| 02:53.03 | klys | nautilus might do that, or dolphin (kde) |
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| 02:53.49 | klys | if you have neither, you can try the old auto mount methods |
| 02:54.30 | klys | autofs, or afuse |
| 02:54.31 | hxmuller | can't use udev anymore |
| 02:54.58 | klys | autors is older than udev |
| 02:55.02 | klys | fs* |
| 02:55.31 | klys | autofs is older than udev* |
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| 02:57.18 | rant | most desktops have a fs daemon.. like gnome/mate and maybe/probably xfce, use gvfsd |
| 02:57.36 | klys | sounds like he's running squeeze or lenny |
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| 02:58.12 | rant | I responded to that issue earlier.. said you'd have to elaborate on udev not working because afaik a udev solution should still work |
| 02:58.20 | rant | you can run arbitrary commands on udev events |
| 02:58.30 | klys | no, the libc6 would have to be upgraded |
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| 02:58.51 | klys | the kernel even |
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| 03:02.38 | rant | idk where you're getting your information from but the user said "current" and nothing I seen tells me they are using some very old version |
| 03:03.08 | klys | hxmuller are you on 2.6 |
| 03:03.30 | rant | /lastlog hxmuller |
| 03:03.41 | rant | wth |
| 03:04.24 | klys | pings his box |
| 03:04.27 | rant | yes earlier when they asked they specifically mentioned systemd |
| 03:04.43 | klys | it replied, and gnome is running fone now |
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| 03:06.21 | klys | well, standby is good |
| 03:08.58 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/1013006/ |
| 03:09.09 | rant | keep in mind when I speak of dpms suspend/standby thats not your normal apm/acpi suspend/standby.. thats just the display only |
| 03:09.38 | klys | ok will try suspend |
| 03:09.46 | rant | you can't issue hdparm commands on a partition |
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| 03:10.03 | rant | and I'm not certain -Y is the sleep command I havent used hdparm in ages |
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| 03:10.22 | klys | exact same output for /dev/sdb |
| 03:10.36 | rant | I was just tossing things at you that you could try to figure out what's causing this issue by trying to trigger it manually |
| 03:10.56 | rant | xset dpms force standby works on my machine to make the screen blank.. and when I press something it comes back fine |
| 03:11.05 | klys | dpms suspend works, now to try a suspend again |
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| 03:11.40 | rant | standby is just a blanking, a suspend should actually cause the display to power off |
| 03:12.21 | klys | verified hard freeze on suspend. |
| 03:13.26 | klys | is there something I should know about linux kernels and suspending toshiba laptops |
| 03:13.32 | rant | a dpms suspend or actual acpi/CPU suspend? |
| 03:13.59 | hxmuller | klys: 2.6? version of? |
| 03:14.02 | klys | actual suspend via gnome |
| 03:14.12 | rant | suspend has always been buggy on virtually everything.. its more a suprise when it works :P |
| 03:14.27 | klys | hxmuller, your linux kernel `uname -r' |
| 03:14.36 | rant | hxmuller: we were trying to figure out which version of debian you were running |
| 03:14.51 | hxmuller | 4.9 |
| 03:14.57 | klys | k |
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| 03:15.11 | klys | what's up with udev? bug? |
| 03:15.45 | rant | thats what I said hours ago when this question was first asked.. be more specific on what the problem with udev is.. i.e. what you tried |
| 03:15.50 | hxmuller | not a but from my research, systemd doesn't allow mounting from udev, a namespace thing I think |
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| 03:15.59 | hxmuller | not a bug* |
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| 03:17.23 | klys | power button ressurrected it from suspend, amazing. |
| 03:17.50 | rant | yes a suspend is when it saves ram to disk (swap) and powers the machine off entirely |
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| 03:18.03 | rant | as opposed to a sleep which is just a lower power cpu state |
| 03:18.08 | klys | I have no swap. that would be hibernate. |
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| 03:18.28 | rant | yeah I guess you're right.. I confused the terms |
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| 03:18.56 | rant | hxmuller: you are looking for a non-X solution or merely a non-DE solution? |
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| 03:19.17 | hxmuller | I'm only using openbox |
| 03:19.24 | rant | because I honestly think you can run gvfsd even without X.. it depends down the line on x11-utils but no real solid X deps and I dont think it needs X running to work |
| 03:19.34 | rant | and gvfsd WILL automount for you |
| 03:20.06 | rant | but if you want a light solution, udev calling a mount command is probably as light as it'd get |
| 03:20.32 | hxmuller | mount command with udev no longer works, can't use pmount either |
| 03:20.39 | hxmuller | that' |
| 03:20.45 | hxmuller | that's what used to work |
| 03:20.53 | rant | yes you've said that multiple times and it means as little (nothing) as it did the first time |
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| 03:21.07 | rant | welcome to the internet, you need pictures to prove your statements.. its in the rules :P |
| 03:21.16 | hxmuller | rant: your help means just as much |
| 03:21.48 | rant | I'm merely offering suggestions.. help would be when you offer what you did and what it didnt do as I've said many times |
| 03:21.49 | M6HZ | . |
| 03:22.01 | rant | the gvfsd is what I'm using and you could use it just the same |
| 03:22.02 | hxmuller | udev with mount, no success |
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| 03:22.12 | klys | systemd-udevd ? |
| 03:22.13 | hxmuller | udev with pmount, no success |
| 03:22.29 | rant | udev requires a rules file which is more specific than "udev with mount" |
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| 03:23.11 | M6HZ | Hello, I'm trying to install debian on qemu for the first time, but the install failed two times, I got the message "Installation step failed" |
| 03:23.23 | rant | it'd certainly be more involved than just installing gvfsd and starting it with your session but I'm pretty sure it'd work if done right |
| 03:23.31 | klys | m6hz, alt+f2 for terminalk |
| 03:23.32 | M6HZ | Do you know what I could have done wrongly ? |
| 03:23.33 | hxmuller | rant: i am well aware, and know how to write udev rules |
| 03:24.02 | hxmuller | syslog reports error on the mount and pmount |
| 03:24.06 | M6HZ | klys, yes and ? |
| 03:24.10 | hxmuller | executed from udev |
| 03:24.14 | klys | m6hz, was it copying debs to your partition? |
| 03:24.36 | M6HZ | klys, Humm I must admit that I don't know |
| 03:25.16 | klys | m6hz, please come back with some information about what it was doing and when it fails, preferably leaving it running. |
| 03:25.17 | hxmuller | klys: you might be barking up the right tree, i'm off to investigate systemd-udevd and friends |
| 03:25.32 | M6HZ | klys, It crashed during "select and install software" |
| 03:26.01 | klys | m6hz, do you have a bridged network? can you verify it accessed the internet? |
| 03:26.02 | M6HZ | klys, if you need more information, the vm is still runing |
| 03:26.46 | klys | m6hz, here are some commands: route -n; iconfig; ping rs.internic.net |
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| 03:27.13 | klys | ifconfig |
| 03:28.10 | M6HZ | klys, well I haven't configured anything on it, but the network should have worked because I've seen the network usage from my host machine. |
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| 03:29.37 | M6HZ | klys, here is the command I used to run it: qemu -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-i386.iso -boot d -m 256 |
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| 03:31.43 | M6HZ | klys, and here is the image I'm using: debian-9.3.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 03:32.26 | klys | m6hz, what it the size of debian.img |
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| 03:33.56 | M6HZ | klys, 5G |
| 03:34.23 | M6HZ | klys, created with: qemu-img create debian.img 5G |
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| 03:38.34 | kuri0 | How can I rebuild all the debian packages with different CFLAGS or arch ? |
| 03:38.41 | kuri0 | I know it would take like forever |
| 03:38.57 | kuri0 | if i could only build whats needed in a minimal debootstrap its better |
| 03:41.30 | klys | kuri0, what's an example of a package you'd like to rebuild |
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| 03:42.15 | kuri0 | klys, the base packages like the stuff that debootstrap generates a rootfs with |
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| 03:44.27 | M6HZ | klys, I have not specified anything "exotic" during the whole graphical process, excepted a different timezone than the one I'm currently in. I chose to install with the default LVM conf the first time, and without any partition the last time. |
| 03:44.31 | klys | have you tried apt-get source in conjunction with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 03:44.48 | themill | kuri0: every source package can be different because every source package needs different sized hammers to make it build. What are you hoping to achieve btw? |
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| 03:49.01 | themill | (the starting point is dpkg-buildflags(1)) |
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| 04:00.13 | M6HZ | klys, I'm trying again with a freshly downloaded debian netinstall image, I confirm that the network seems to work properly "Network autoconfiguration has succeeded" |
| 04:01.31 | rant | DHCP success doesn't mean the network is working properly :P |
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| 04:02.28 | themill | especially for a virtual machine -- that can just mean that it has an internal IP address not that it can actually go talk to a mirror |
| 04:02.54 | themill | I'd also be a little worried that 256MB RAM isn't much if you're using the graphical installer |
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| 04:04.24 | M6HZ | rant, themill well that and the fact that my bandwidth was used when the virtual machine was downloading from debian repos. |
| 04:05.39 | themill | You can complete the installation without going anywhere near a mirror. That might be worth donig. |
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| 04:06.23 | rant | they dont make the minimal isos without base anymore? |
| 04:06.28 | dtux | anyone know if you can make subkeys with GPA? |
| 04:08.14 | kuri0 | themill, building a ilp32 chroot |
| 04:08.25 | kuri0 | theres an ilp32 repo but its out of date |
| 04:08.30 | M6HZ | themill, I got stuck at the end of "select and install software" |
| 04:08.39 | themill | kuri0: you might like to look at rebootstrap then |
| 04:08.51 | themill | M6HZ: I'm suggesting that you avoid that step |
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| 04:09.55 | M6HZ | themill, "<themill> I'd also be a little worried that 256MB RAM isn't much if you're using the graphical installer" How much ram would you recommand? |
| 04:10.19 | kuri0 | how many years would it take to recompile everything ? |
| 04:10.25 | kuri0 | on one quad core laptop |
| 04:10.45 | rant | install gentoo, and find out :P |
| 04:11.03 | themill | kuri0: depends on how you do the cross-compiling. If you're doing it in qemu it's *slow*. If the packages can actually be cross-compiled with rebootstrap, then it will be faster |
| 04:11.35 | kuri0 | themill, i'm going to do the cross compiling on a x64 quad core |
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| 04:11.38 | kuri0 | not in qemu |
| 04:11.43 | kuri0 | using a toolchain |
| 04:11.59 | themill | kuri0: as I said, that only works if the package supports it |
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| 04:15.10 | kuri0 | themill, theres an existing ilp32 port could i rebuild that so i have newer packages ? |
| 04:15.45 | themill | probably. if the bootstrapping got far enough to be self-hosting, that's a much easier prospect |
| 04:16.14 | kuri0 | themill, what tools do i have to use ? |
| 04:16.43 | themill | if it's self hosting, just recompiling the normal source packages might be enough |
| 04:16.51 | themill | plus random patches for kernel and glibc |
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| 04:17.52 | kuri0 | themill, so i have do it manually ? |
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| 04:24.38 | themill | kuri0: rebootstrap can probably do this too |
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| 05:07.18 | awal1 | How can I verify if my wifi adapter supports 5ghz network? |
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| 05:10.41 | themill | "iwlist $device channel" |
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| 05:17.41 | awal1 | themill, I already checked that before I ask and I only got less than 2.4 ghz but I was confused bcoz googling people say IEEE 802.11 have by default support for 5ghz, so confused, that is why I asked |
| 05:18.01 | awal1 | my paste anyway themill https://paste.debian.net/1013010 |
| 05:19.32 | teatime_ | for sure not all e.g. 802.11n client devices support both bands |
| 05:19.55 | awal1 | confused bcoz right now I am using 'wicd' and I don't see my 5ghz network when configured like that but last time I switched my router notwork to 5ghz networkmanager detected it |
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| 06:43.30 | rant | wicd is horribly buggy and caused my wifi driver to crash routinely.. removing it solved my issues |
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| 06:51.06 | M6HZ | klys, themill, rant, Impossible to install debian if "Debian desktop environment" and "Gnome" are selected when it comes to "select and install software". If these two options are disabled the installation continues, else I get "Installation step failed". With qemu x64_64 2.11.0, debian-9.3.0-i386-netinst.iso, started by: qemu-system-x86_64 -hda debian.img -cdrom debian-9.3.0-i386-netinst.iso -boot d -m 1024 |
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| 06:51.38 | M6HZ | Is it "normal" ? |
| 06:51.47 | themill | If you don't select those options the installer can complete without going to the network. |
| 06:52.21 | themill | No, this isn't normal but I'm guessing your priority is to finish the installation and then tweak configuration |
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| 06:52.48 | M6HZ | themill, it's done. Just trying to understand what happend here |
| 06:53.04 | M6HZ | +e |
| 06:55.28 | M6HZ | themill, if this was really a network issue, how could I've seen this on my monitor: select and install software retrieving file 1417 of 1417 27% ? |
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| 06:57.46 | nogravityrush | hi |
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| 07:26.42 | elios | o/ |
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| 07:34.04 | elios | :| |
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| 08:51.46 | nogravityrush | hi |
| 08:51.51 | nogravityrush | can someone help |
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| 08:52.15 | alkisg | !ask |
| 08:52.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 08:52.28 | nogravityrush | how do i install radeon drivers |
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| 08:57.41 | alkisg | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo and https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 10:15.57 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, there are also opensource drivers radeon/amdgpu fyi |
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| 10:17.09 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 10:28.15 | nogravityrush | so how do i fix it |
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| 10:49.41 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, what card do you have installed? |
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| 11:03.02 | dutchfish | K0JIbKA, i prolly cant help you but this wiki maybe has a hint on GK104-200-KD-A2 -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_600_series |
| 11:03.46 | nogravityrush | dutchfish so can you help |
| 11:04.25 | nogravityrush | ? |
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| 11:06.59 | nogravityrush | hey ho hello |
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| 11:08.42 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, what card do you have? |
| 11:08.50 | nogravityrush | 2 r9 390 |
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| 11:09.08 | nogravityrush | i get umtp error |
| 11:09.30 | nogravityrush | i installed the drivers beta that... amdgpu-pro |
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| 11:10.20 | BluesKaj | 'Morning |
| 11:10.30 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, well, the opensource drivers should work almost out of the box, you just need to install the firmware as described in the link i gave you. |
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| 11:11.28 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, the APIProprietary wont work at the moment |
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| 11:12.40 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, asuming you are running Debian/stavle stock kernel and being up 2 date. |
| 11:12.48 | dutchfish | s/stavle/stable* |
| 11:13.52 | nogravityrush | im putting the iso to usb |
| 11:14.01 | nogravityrush | i cant even get ubuntu |
| 11:14.15 | nogravityrush | to install |
| 11:14.15 | nogravityrush | it says ntfs error |
| 11:14.25 | nogravityrush | and then sdd cdrom cant be mounted |
| 11:17.12 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, ? |
| 11:17.22 | nogravityrush | for ubuntu |
| 11:17.37 | dutchfish | !ubuntu |
| 11:17.37 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 11:18.45 | nogravityrush | i know i know i tried ubuntu i used to be able to install it |
| 11:19.01 | nogravityrush | now it gives me error /dev/sdd cdrom cant be mounted |
| 11:19.33 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, ok, try to rephrase you question(s), so i can understand what the problem is. |
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| 11:20.02 | nogravityrush | maybe its the cdrom image that has problem |
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| 11:20.16 | nogravityrush | ty i will try the site you mentioned |
| 11:21.24 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, fyi, you dont need a cdrom, for installing a video card driver. If Debian is installed correctly apt-get or aptitude is what you need to install packages. |
| 11:22.45 | nogravityrush | yep |
| 11:22.54 | nogravityrush | i guess i will note program today |
| 11:23.04 | nogravityrush | just try to get debian fixed |
| 11:23.12 | dutchfish | ok, good luck |
| 11:23.18 | nogravityrush | ty |
| 11:23.38 | unreg | Hi all! Can someone tell me if it is normal for a debian stretch + koha to consume 1.5 GB of RAM? |
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| 11:25.13 | dutchfish | unreg, it doesnt 'consume' that much. But any linux (Debian included) will cache data in large quantities. Use `free` to get insight in this. |
| 11:25.56 | unreg | dutchfish thanks :) |
| 11:26.09 | dutchfish | unreg, yw |
| 11:26.20 | nogravityrush | u got android dutchfish |
| 11:26.26 | nogravityrush | just wondering |
| 11:26.40 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, no, i use Debian |
| 11:26.46 | dutchfish | !debianlove |
| 11:26.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, debianlove is the more I gain knowledge about Linux, the more I like Debian. Ask me about <why debian> too. For more information, see http://wiki.debian.org/ |
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| 11:38.54 | Jiraya_sensei | i have recently upgraded my kali linux distro to 2018.1 .after upgrdaing i have run into a few problems...can i pm somebody abt it |
| 11:39.16 | nkuttler | !kali |
| 11:39.17 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 11:46.28 | Jiraya_sensei | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.00 | apollo13 | Jiraya_sensei: that ended up in the channel, please change your password |
| 11:47.03 | apollo13 | (quickly) |
| 11:47.11 | apollo13 | and also verify that your email address didn't get changed |
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| 11:49.06 | ancarda | Hi, could someone help me with the network installer? My computer doesn't have a CD drive (or a floppy disk drive), but when I try to run the network installer (off an SD card), it boots and gets up to "Detect CD-ROM" and I can't go any further as I don't have a CD drive |
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| 11:49.48 | ancarda | My computer has an ethernet cable, so should it be able to use the internet to download the components instead? I never get that option and the installer then fails |
| 11:49.54 | DerLGm | ancarda: first |
| 11:49.55 | BCMM | ancarda: which image did you use? |
| 11:50.18 | ancarda | this one: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:50.34 | DerLGm | tell us your specs, what verions and then what tests youve ran |
| 11:50.50 | BCMM | ancarda: so how does your SD work? is it a USB mass storage device, or a "native" MMC device? |
| 11:51.02 | BCMM | ancarda: because afaik those images are designed specifically for CD or USB boot |
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| 11:51.31 | DerLGm | wb Butt3rfly |
| 11:51.48 | ancarda | BCMM: Er, sorry I'm not sure how to answer that question. My computer actually runs Ubuntu -- so I'm happy to run commands and give you some output if that would help answer your question. I just need to reinstall |
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| 11:52.28 | BCMM | ancarda: cool, that makes it easier - with an sd card inserted, do you have a /dev/mmcblk0 node? |
| 11:52.58 | BCMM | ancarda: sometimes sd cards come up like that, sometimes they come up as just a /dev/sdX, because the reader emulates a USB stick essentially |
| 11:53.59 | ancarda | Yeah I see mmcblk0 (and 0p1, 0p2) |
| 11:55.23 | ancarda | Would a USB stick be easier for the installer? I think I have one somewhere |
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| 11:56.13 | DerLGm | BCMM: I was gunna suggest lusb but it seems youre more on track. |
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| 11:56.46 | Maid-Chan | does the repo keep old versions of software giving some method to download them? |
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| 11:58.19 | DerLGm | Maid-Chan: im inclined to say no |
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| 12:00.42 | ancarda | BCCM: Ok, a flash drive works fine. I guess SD cards are just weird? |
| 12:00.44 | Maid-Chan | bummer. a tool i need is looking for [libboost_system.so.1.58.0] but [libboost-system1.62.0] is what apt gave me. |
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| 12:01.34 | nogravityrush | have you tried googling that specific package version |
| 12:01.44 | nogravityrush | .deb |
| 12:02.16 | nogravityrush | you may need to get its dependencies too |
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| 12:02.21 | Maid-Chan | do i need to uninstall 1.62 before installing 1.58 from deb if i find it? |
| 12:02.29 | nogravityrush | yes |
| 12:02.38 | nogravityrush | dpkg is the command |
| 12:02.38 | dpkg | nogravityrush: i haven't a clue |
| 12:02.52 | teatime | Maid-Chan: snapshot.debian.org, and yes you will likely run into issues because you can only have one version of a pacage installed at a time |
| 12:03.11 | Maid-Chan | k. so it's either remove or purge...still haven't figured out the difference. purge seems more all encompassing but my reading seemed to imply it was less nuclear so i dunno. :P |
| 12:03.33 | teatime | remove normally keeps config files in case you want to reinstall |
| 12:03.36 | teatime | purge does not |
| 12:03.46 | nogravityrush | nutclear |
| 12:03.48 | alkisg | Maid-Chan: if you try to purge your existing libboost-system, how many packages are going to get removed? Try it and then press cancel. |
| 12:04.02 | Maid-Chan | see that's what i assumed but reading made it seem less somehow. guess i misunderstood. |
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| 12:04.29 | teatime | what tool are you trying to install/run ? |
| 12:04.33 | Maid-Chan | by press cancel do you mean enter n? |
| 12:04.38 | nogravityrush | no |
| 12:04.40 | nogravityrush | ctrl c |
| 12:04.46 | Maid-Chan | ahh |
| 12:04.49 | alkisg | Maid-Chan: no, or ctrl+c, or --dry-run |
| 12:05.25 | Maid-Chan | @teatime it's called narctool it's for opening nintendo archives for romhacking. I'm trying to see if i can't help with translation of puyopuyotetris. :P |
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| 12:05.51 | nogravityrush | how are roms written |
| 12:05.55 | nogravityrush | hex or bin? |
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| 12:06.53 | alkisg | Maid-Chan: the problem will be that a lot of existing packages depend on your current libboost version, so to fix 1 you'll break 10 |
| 12:07.16 | alkisg | Maid-Chan: I'm guessing that 1.58 means Ubuntu Xenial, because no Debian version ships with that... |
| 12:07.23 | alkisg | Maybe a VM would suit you better |
| 12:07.24 | Maid-Chan | so basically use my windows laptop for this hacking job? seems counter intuitive. :P |
| 12:07.33 | nogravityrush | since you didnt answer my question try breaking your pc and monmitor |
| 12:07.37 | alkisg | Or just modify it so that it runs with 1.62 |
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| 12:07.53 | nogravityrush | jk |
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| 12:08.40 | Maid-Chan | hrm that would require knowing jackall about 1.62 or libboost in general and the code of narctool no? |
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| 12:09.19 | nogravityrush | man u dont have a monitor |
| 12:09.23 | nogravityrush | jk |
| 12:09.44 | nogravityrush | good luck |
| 12:09.45 | Maid-Chan | nogravityrush, aren't all low level operations done in binary which is displayed on machine as hex because us humans couldn't handle that many 0s and 1s? :P |
| 12:10.00 | nogravityrush | x finger for r9 390 driver install |
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| 12:11.09 | nogravityrush | i guess cmake and makefile bundling is a necessity |
| 12:11.13 | nogravityrush | ty guys |
| 12:11.17 | nogravityrush | especially dutchfish |
| 12:11.34 | nogravityrush | i got to go to bed |
| 12:11.46 | nogravityrush | wanna see the sunlight tomorrow |
| 12:11.56 | nogravityrush | i mean later |
| 12:12.06 | Maid-Chan | huh. the uninstall dry run wanted to remove nothing but libboost related stuff and qbittorrent. that doesn't seem that terrible to remove... |
| 12:12.49 | nogravityrush | dutchfish nope it still will not boot |
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| 12:16.30 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, i reread all your lines. Maybe you focus on a clean Debian install. Then fix the video card problem. Those are 2 separate problems, i assume. |
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| 12:16.44 | nogravityrush | i did a clean install |
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| 12:17.27 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, ok. Any messages you have seen on the boot problem? |
| 12:17.47 | nogravityrush | no |
| 12:17.58 | nogravityrush | i guess it is stuck on the runlevel loading part |
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| 12:18.26 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, it shows grub loading? |
| 12:18.43 | nogravityrush | no |
| 12:18.48 | nogravityrush | dmesg intro |
| 12:19.11 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, what is the last lines you see? |
| 12:19.50 | nogravityrush | ums error |
| 12:19.59 | nogravityrush | no radeon module |
| 12:20.15 | nogravityrush | i got to do nomodeset |
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| 12:21.30 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, that is a radeon software load error on the proprietary software. So, this is clearly not a clean debian install. |
| 12:21.39 | nogravityrush | ok |
| 12:21.58 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, you installed this today? |
| 12:23.53 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, hint, if you want this, then you need atidri installed as well |
| 12:24.04 | dutchfish | ati-dri* |
| 12:24.35 | nogravityrush | is it nouveau causing the problem |
| 12:24.53 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, i think the most easiest solution is, to reinstall that debian and follow the wiki link i gave with the opensource driver install. |
| 12:25.09 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, i dont thnk so unless you have such a videocard installed along |
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| 12:26.09 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, you cant mix opensource video drivers with proprietary ones |
| 12:26.13 | SmashK2 | hi |
| 12:26.49 | SmashK2 | old server (dual P3 on ASUS-server-board) won't start on Debian-9.3-i386 |
| 12:26.50 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, specially for the R9 series |
| 12:27.07 | SmashK2 | 8254 is not connected to IO-APIC |
| 12:28.23 | nogravityrush | dutchfish will fglrx work with that card |
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| 12:28.52 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, i dont know, i didnt use fglrx for ages |
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| 12:29.55 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, nor did i have a need for |
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| 12:30.28 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, go opensource drivers for that card, is all i cna say |
| 12:30.37 | dutchfish | can* |
| 12:31.06 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, that worked for me and probably also for you |
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| 12:34.22 | Qas | hello, lately I am frequently having this problem: I want to open a page in a browser tab, and all I see is a blank page with loading circle rolling at the center of it, forever. I only need to restart browser to get rid of it. |
| 12:34.30 | Qas | is it a known problem? |
| 12:34.37 | Qas | firefox user |
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| 12:40.20 | nogravityrush | ok ty |
| 12:40.26 | dutchfish | yw |
| 12:40.43 | nogravityrush | is cinammon working with amdgpu |
| 12:40.59 | dutchfish | sure, all major window managers work with that |
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| 12:41.51 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, and for the ice on caking, the opensource driver for R9 are even faster sometimes ;) |
| 12:43.07 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, specially with the very latest kernels |
| 12:44.15 | nogravityrush | how do i update the drm |
| 12:44.50 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, you dont do that. You normally follow the Debian repo, which provides the one you need. |
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| 12:45.16 | nogravityrush | ok |
| 12:45.23 | nogravityrush | it has screen tearing |
| 12:45.26 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, if you do that you will the ABI and alot more. |
| 12:46.15 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, if you are really clever and want the latest stuff, install testing. But that need some skills to coop with the bugs. |
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| 12:46.53 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, or just wait until it gets released for stable. |
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| 12:47.11 | nogravityrush | ok |
| 12:47.20 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, i have no screen tearing in Stable fyi |
| 12:47.28 | nogravityrush | how do i properly uninstall a kernel entry in grub |
| 12:47.31 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, but i admit that took some tweaking. |
| 12:47.35 | nogravityrush | plus its files and what not |
| 12:47.53 | nogravityrush | ty |
| 12:48.48 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, normally, if you manually installed a kernel. First boot into the stock kernel the use dpkg --remove [your non-stock kernel] as it is listed by dpkg -l | grep linux- |
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| 12:49.57 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, apropos, giving some more information the next time you have a problem, makes it alot easier to give adequate support. (logs) |
| 12:50.38 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, i still don't own a crystal ball ;) |
| 12:51.02 | dutchfish | nogravityrush, good luck |
| 12:52.39 | nogravityrush | i love u dutchfish |
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| 12:53.12 | Maid-Chan | can windows command line applications be run on linux in some way? like does wine have a CLI side or anything like that? |
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| 12:59.27 | nogravityrush | lol i guess the what is linux image rt |
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| 13:02.45 | nogravityrush | time to learn cmake and makefile |
| 13:02.46 | nogravityrush | ; |
| 13:02.59 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: yes, wine works with command line programs |
| 13:03.01 | nogravityrush | (ty |
| 13:03.18 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: however, bear in mind that wine doesn't work perfectly with *every* program |
| 13:03.24 | Qas | hello, lately I am frequently having this problem: I want to open a page in a browser tab, and all I see is a blank page with loading circle rolling at the center of it, forever. I only need to restart browser to get rid of it. |
| 13:03.27 | Qas | is it a known problem? |
| 13:03.29 | Qas | firefox user |
| 13:03.47 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: also, wine is for "real" win32 applications. if it's actually a .net executable, you can use mono |
| 13:04.07 | Qas | and once it starts with a tab, it spreads to all tabs. all open pages and the newly opened ones in the browser window look as described above |
| 13:04.26 | abrotman | a picture might help |
| 13:04.34 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Text_mode_programs_.28CUI:_Console_User_Interface.29 |
| 13:04.48 | abrotman | Qas: which version of FF and which version of Linux? |
| 13:06.47 | BCMM | Qas: is the system under heavy load? either cpu or ram? |
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| 13:07.17 | BCMM | Qas: i think that's what firefox usually does when it's unloaded background tabs to save resources |
| 13:11.41 | Qas | abrotman, firefox 52.6.0., Linux 4.9.0-5-amd64 |
| 13:11.55 | Qas | BCMM, no, it is for sure nut under heavy load. |
| 13:12.17 | Qas | not* |
| 13:13.07 | Qas | I guess 11 tabs cant be heavy load |
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| 13:16.09 | Qas | it's like the browser gets locked. any more pages on new tab or window dont get opened. |
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| 13:17.11 | nogravityrush | what is build-essentials equivalent to in debian |
| 13:17.37 | bitess | build-essential |
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| 13:18.52 | bitess | Qas: running out of memory? |
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| 13:19.27 | Qas | bitess, I have enough physical memory on the machine |
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| 13:20.03 | abrotman | disable JS? |
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| 13:21.09 | Qas | abrotman, I might have tried that indeed, but I will do it next time it happens. I've just restarted browser and it's out of the way for now. |
| 13:21.25 | Qas | thank you all for your help! |
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| 13:23.53 | teatime | Qas: I beleive I have seen the same behavior |
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| 13:28.39 | Qas | teatime, interesting have you been able to solve it or come across to a solution? |
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| 13:39.40 | cariveri | Hi. I have got a VM with Debian wheezy on it. How to forward supportmail@mydomain.com --> other@mailservice.com ? |
| 13:39.52 | teatime | Qas: no. |
| 13:40.48 | vlt | cariveri: How are these two things related? |
| 13:41.34 | cariveri | vlt: well, its a standard serve cofnig I think inside of debian, not? |
| 13:41.43 | cariveri | *server config |
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| 13:42.37 | vlt | cariveri: We donât know as long as you donât tell us. Thatâs why I asked. |
| 13:44.18 | cariveri | vlt: what do you want to know, I already tried my best to answer. |
| 13:45.34 | vlt | cariveri: I want to know how a VM running Debian and an email to be forwarded are connected. |
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| 13:49.59 | jelly | cariveri, is mail service for your domain hosted on this VM? |
| 13:50.06 | Qas | thank you all for your help, bye! |
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| 14:00.12 | cariveri | jelly: there is nothing at all. just a the debian server: webserver, exim4/sendmail et.c. but mails are supposed to be "received" and redirected to a real mail provider. sofar I dont need a mail server installed here. |
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| 14:01.03 | jelly | cariveri, such a forward has to be set up at the mail provider. |
| 14:01.27 | jelly | anything else is just hackery |
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| 14:01.58 | jelly | (like getting new messages via imap or pop3 then resending them) |
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| 14:02.27 | cariveri | jelly: at the mail provider? what? that really sounds upside down. |
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| 14:02.42 | abrotman | cariveri: is your system currently accepting messages for "yourdomain.com" from the internet? |
| 14:04.07 | cariveri | abrotman: I did not configured that way no. but as I took over a machine from someone else I cannot be completely sure about al the configs made. |
| 14:04.17 | bigbad | hey guys |
| 14:04.35 | abrotman | cariveri: so you want to just send mail to another host? Are you going to change the rcpt? |
| 14:04.45 | jelly | cariveri, not really, forwards are done either at MDA or at MTA level, and both are components that run where the mail is actually hosted. |
| 14:05.05 | cariveri | abrotman: still I think the vmhosting provider added something like an mx record. |
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| 14:05.58 | jelly | an MX record would mean all mail for your domain should be delivered to whatever system the MX record pointed to |
| 14:07.29 | MichaelOF | carivery: do you maybe mean "VPS" instead of "VM"? is the "VM" running at a hosting company or @home? |
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| 14:07.38 | jelly | cariveri, install dnsutils. Pastebin the output of "dig your-domain-here MX" and "dig your-domain-here A". Please do not hide the domain name. |
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| 14:09.02 | abrotman | I mean, why not just setup a .forward or /etc/aliases ? |
| 14:09.20 | jelly | because the Debian machine is not his MX |
| 14:09.22 | abrotman | Unless I'm misunderstanding his question |
| 14:09.35 | abrotman | jelly: that may not actually matter .. |
| 14:09.37 | jelly | it's just a debian machine somewhere. |
| 14:09.54 | abrotman | cariveri: or just tell us the actual domain you're using |
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| 14:10.36 | jelly | <cariveri> Hi. I have got a VM with Debian wheezy on it. How to forward supportmail@mydomain.com --> other@mailservice.com ? |
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| 14:10.45 | jelly | how might it not matter? |
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| 14:11.47 | jelly | aliases or .forward have to be configured on the actual mx |
| 14:11.53 | antoszka | cariveri: set up the MX for `mydomain.com` so that it points at `mailservice.com` so that it accepts mail for |
| 14:12.01 | antoszka | sorry |
| 14:12.19 | abrotman | jelly: it could be local delivery, and trying to forward that elsewhere |
| 14:12.28 | antoszka | cariveri: set up the MX for `mydomain.com` so that it points at `mailservice.com`'s mail server and configure that server so that it accepts mail for `mydomain.com` and a virtual alias for the addresses |
| 14:12.30 | abrotman | antoszka: you don't know that will work ... |
| 14:12.42 | jelly | <jelly> cariveri, is mail service for your domain hosted on this VM? <cariveri> jelly: there is nothing at all. just a the debian server: webserver, exim4/sendmail et.c. but mails are supposed to be "received" and redirected to a real mail provider. sofar I dont need a mail server installed here. |
| 14:12.44 | abrotman | "mailservice.com" would have to be willing to accept for "vaguedomain.com" |
| 14:12.48 | jelly | abrotman, ^^ that sounds like "no" |
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| 14:14.07 | jelly | and if other@mailservice.com is gmail, there are other workarounds that gmail prefers now instead of forwards |
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| 14:14.34 | abrotman | so much vague |
| 14:16.00 | jelly | I usually just refuse providing free help if user messes with debug info. They can get my hourly rate if they want to be kept private |
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| 14:16.42 | hexnewbie | Where does journald store its journal in Debian by default? I just loaded mc and it created 2GiB of logs there. I deleted the syslog ones, but journalctl still displays them. What/how to delete them? |
| 14:17.07 | jelly | and hourly rate right now gets a Sunday afternoon 2x factor |
| 14:17.25 | MichaelOF | hexnewbie: not sure but doesn't logrotate do this? |
| 14:17.56 | hexnewbie | MichaelOF: I don't see systemd/journald stuff in /etc/logrotate.d |
| 14:18.05 | jelly | hexnewbie, first question: /run/log/journal |
| 14:18.13 | hexnewbie | jelly: Ah, thank you :) |
| 14:18.27 | MichaelOF | hexnewbie: that's a valid argument against my idea :-) |
| 14:18.29 | jelly | hexnewbie, that's on tmpfs by default and does not get saved |
| 14:18.56 | hexnewbie | Meh, it's just 24 MiB. Will keep it. I guess binary logs have an advantage over 4 copies in syslog, messages, user.log and one other |
| 14:19.07 | hexnewbie | 4 text copies, at that |
| 14:19.15 | MichaelOF | I'll be quiet now, although I'm cheaper than jelly :-) |
| 14:19.23 | jelly | hexnewbie, syslog and journal keep separate logs. journal can (and does) format some stuff to syslog |
| 14:19.39 | jelly | s/format/forward/ |
| 14:20.13 | jelly | hexnewbie, fix your syslog configuration if you have 4 copies of crap |
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| 14:20.23 | hexnewbie | jelly: Well, it does. So when mc DoSed my logs, I got 4 copies in rsyslog logs, and 1 in journal. I mistakenly thought the journal one would be as big as the other ones (which totalled to 1.6GiB by the time I killed mc) |
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| 14:20.59 | hexnewbie | jelly: I believe I'm using Debian's default rsyslog configuration. |
| 14:21.04 | jelly | and remember to tell rsyslog to reopen log files after manually wiping thme |
| 14:21.21 | jelly | hexnewbie, yes, Debian's default rsyslog configuration is crap |
| 14:21.59 | jelly | it logs most of *.* to two files |
| 14:22.07 | hexnewbie | jelly: Restarted it for good measure :) And yeah, I do disable multiple logs on systems that do produce a lot of messages for that exact reason. |
| 14:22.36 | nashimus1 | I'm trying to use X11 forwarding over SSH and I have made to enable the settings that this post on stack exchange has indicated: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12755/how-to-forward-x-over-ssh-to-run-graphics-applications-remotely |
| 14:22.46 | hexnewbie | jelly: I hope this mc thing on my desktop is a one-time thing, though. Thanks for your help |
| 14:22.57 | nashimus1 | however, when I connect with SSH and -X, it's it's still just a terminal |
| 14:23.03 | jelly | also bad: separation by priority for mail, and disabled cron.* |
| 14:23.33 | teatime | nashimus1: have you tried running a graphical app like xterm or xeyes from that terminal? |
| 14:23.35 | hexnewbie | nashimus1: Well, it is a terminal. You have to run a X program in it. |
| 14:23.36 | jelly | nashimus1, what is still just a terminal? |
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| 14:23.55 | hexnewbie | nashimus1: You don't expect your terminal to suddenly turn into a GUI desktop, do you? :) |
| 14:24.12 | nashimus1 | :( |
| 14:24.14 | nashimus1 | lol |
| 14:24.17 | nashimus1 | that works |
| 14:24.20 | nashimus1 | I'm a newb |
| 14:24.58 | nashimus1 | Never seen it used before, so I did in fact expect an actual xserver lol |
| 14:25.01 | nashimus1 | xD |
| 14:25.15 | hexnewbie | nashimus1: Also, as Debian 9 Stretch is now using Qt 5, X forwarding is no longer usable for Qt programs (unless very on fast network) |
| 14:25.35 | nashimus1 | thanks :D |
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| 14:26.24 | hexnewbie | So it's more or less GTK+2/3 and lesser known toolkits-only (with the exception of Firefox, which requires config changes to work) |
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| 14:33.28 | c0r4nn | hello ; i have problem for install steam in debian , msg error " you are missing the folowing 32 bit library , and steam may not run : libGL.so.1 libdrm.so.2 can i do? |
| 14:34.09 | Maid-Chan | @BCMM, thanx. i dunno if it's .net probably not. it seems to be an archive extracting/compressing tool so i doubt .net would be needed. sorry for delay in reply. was upstairs. |
| 14:34.13 | jelly | ,v steam |
| 14:34.14 | judd | No package named 'steam' was found in amd64. |
| 14:34.18 | jelly | ,v steam:i386 |
| 14:34.19 | judd | No package named 'steam:i386' was found in amd64. |
| 14:34.28 | jelly | ,v steam --arch i386 |
| 14:34.29 | judd | Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.54-2; buster/non-free: 1.0.0.54-5; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.54-5 |
| 14:34.34 | nkuttler | c0r4nn: how did you install it? |
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| 14:34.41 | jelly | c0r4nn, how are you installing it? |
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| 14:36.18 | nkuttler | !steam |
| 14:36.18 | dpkg | Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable <multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. http://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
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| 14:44.12 | JohnA | why, when configuring a system (in my case server) server does the debian installer allocate huge amounts of storage to home. |
| 14:45.07 | teatime | once you have a certain amount of storage, it's the only place that might reasonably forsee significant future use |
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| 14:46.03 | teatime | but you can feel free to make it smaller, and leave free space on your drive, or I usually use LVM |
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| 14:48.32 | JohnA | teatime, 1) I suppose that reasonable. 2) how "easy"is LVM to use on server? |
| 14:48.42 | JohnA | mc |
| 14:49.03 | teatime | it's pretty easy/handy in general |
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| 14:50.05 | teatime | it's easier to setup via CLI than using the debian installer to set it up |
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| 14:51.06 | teatime | tbh, if that gives you can idea. the command names are logical, pv* operates on physical volumes, vg* operates on volume groups, lv* operates on logical volumes. |
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| 14:52.55 | teatime | in particular it's nice to be able to lvextend then resize2fs any volume that needs extra space, online |
| 14:53.08 | teatime | and without messing with physical partition tables |
| 14:54.19 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: if you know what archive or compression format it works on, you might be able to find a native tool that does the same |
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| 14:56.03 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: also, i wouldn't assume that a particular level of complexity decides whether something "needs" .net |
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| 14:56.22 | BCMM | Maid-Chan: it would generally be down to whether the developer prefers working in C++ or C# |
| 14:56.43 | User756 | (User756) Hi, I can find someone here who could help me with connect to internet via Network Manager? I have Debian 9 installed with GNOME. The problem is that I have a modem Huawei E5220 (Mobile Wi-Fi), but when I connect a modem via USB, Network Manager does not detect my modem. Of course I know I should use usb_modeswitch which does not help. I can connect to the internet only by typing dhclient <interface wwan> in the terminal. I |
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| 15:00.03 | konna44 | hello, I can't find Avidemux from repos. Is it just because no one is willing to pack and maintain it there? |
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| 15:01.12 | BCMM | konna44: strange. what version of debian are you on? |
| 15:01.13 | annadane | probably... this stuff is basically all volunteer |
| 15:01.21 | annadane | ,v avidemux |
| 15:01.22 | judd | Package: avidemux on amd64 -- wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.5.6-dmo6+deb7u1; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.6.8-dmo8; stretch-multimedia: 1:2.6.20-dmo3; buster-multimedia: 1:2.7.0-dmo8; sid-multimedia: 1:2.7.0-dmo8 |
| 15:01.25 | annadane | ah |
| 15:01.26 | konna44 | Stretch |
| 15:01.33 | BCMM | konna44: oh, looks like it's in deb multimedia |
| 15:01.43 | konna44 | is it "official"? |
| 15:01.56 | BCMM | konna44: deb-multimedia is very much not "official" |
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| 15:02.26 | asdffd09asdf | exit |
| 15:02.35 | User756 | Can someone help me? :( |
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| 15:05.11 | User756 | Or how can I inform NetworkManager that I am connected to the internet? |
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| 15:10.30 | MichaelOF | how are you connected? :-) |
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| 15:11.48 | konna44 | hm |
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| 15:12.20 | konna44 | what do Debian developers and maintainers think about deb-multimedia? is it "good"? |
| 15:12.27 | User756 | When I type dhclient wwan0 I can connect to internet but gnome settings inform me that Im offline |
| 15:12.37 | konna44 | i could compile Avidemux from source as well... |
| 15:13.02 | User756 | And I can not use sync with a Google account |
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| 15:13.17 | User756 | And options that require a connection do not work :( |
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| 15:15.27 | User756 | @MichaelOF you can help me? |
| 15:15.30 | MichaelOF | User756: you're using wifi or ethernet? @home behind a router, or mobile? |
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| 15:16.20 | User756 | A 3G modem which is a portable wifi router but should work via a USB cable |
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| 15:16.52 | User756 | There is a special connection application on Windows |
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| 15:17.30 | MichaelOF | User756: maybe this issue, although very old? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703236 |
| 15:17.31 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/703236 in network-manager (open, moreinfo): «network-manager: doesn't see nor handle wwan0»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-03-17; last modified: 2013-03-30. |
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| 15:18.31 | MichaelOF | User756: have you tried to connect via wifi instead of USB? |
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| 15:19.59 | User756 | MichaelOF: I currently do not have a Wi-Fi network card in my computer. If I can not do anything about buying something |
| 15:21.26 | MichaelOF | ok. do you see wwan0 in network manager? |
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| 15:22.39 | User756 | How can I check it? ip a shows me wwan [numbers] when I connect the router, but nmcli does not |
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| 15:23.02 | User756 | Modem* |
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| 15:24.08 | MichaelOF | network mgr in the gnome gui? |
| 15:25.06 | User756 | It does not show me the "Mobile broadband" tab |
| 15:26.51 | User756 | Sometimes I will show in random moments, but it works very strangely |
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| 15:28.43 | User756 | I tried to find a way to show this tab but I could not |
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| 15:30.24 | MichaelOF | User756: I'm out for this, sorry |
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| 15:42.10 | bigbad | hey guys dose any one know a good online proxy list for brute sploit ? |
| 15:43.06 | annadane | if you have to ask people how to hack maybe you shouldn't be hacking |
| 15:43.14 | metastable | s/maybe// |
| 15:43.30 | bigbad | what ? |
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| 15:44.04 | annadane | this is a debian support channel and as such not really a place for that question |
| 15:44.27 | bigbad | oh sir got it |
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| 15:57.38 | olafout | hi , i try to use gdb to "dump" all Class Struct Enum Vtable from an .Elf file with Dwarf debug info on it |
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| 15:58.09 | olafout | gdb ptype type do the job , but i'v to know first the type name |
| 15:58.21 | olafout | do you know a way / tool to dump thems all |
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| 16:11.21 | rant | I could really use an app where I can flip through images like eye of mate or eye of gnome and use two keys one to go to the next image and one to delete and go to the next image, without any sort of confirmation dialog.. anyone know of such a thing or do I gotta make something? |
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| 16:12.29 | rant | be it taking multiple photos you get ones that are blurry or such and I just want to easily flip through and delete em |
| 16:14.06 | rant | oh nm.. EOG/EOM does do this.. its just not in the menu.. heh |
| 16:14.59 | rant | using left and delete isnt ideal but it'll work :P |
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| 16:24.53 | Maid-Chan | @BCMM, true I suppose. the exact format is narc(nitro archive or something like that. it's for nintendo 3ds) there actually is a native port but it requires an old version of libboost_system. |
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| 16:29.19 | {HD} | Hey, I just restarted my computer and it went to the grub command prompt. What should I use a grub rescue process? Is there an easy solution? |
| 16:31.17 | {HD} | I am 'ls'ing around and I cannot find anything that looks like my filesystem. |
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| 16:45.45 | rant | {HD}: do you have another bootable media? |
| 16:46.14 | rant | preferably a linux bootable media like an installer or live |
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| 16:47.53 | rant | doesnt know crap about the grub rescue console and finds a chroot rescue to be more useful |
| 16:48.56 | phogg | rant: more useful? They're used for totally different things |
| 16:50.25 | rant | not if grub is your problem.. a chroot rescue just allows you to do more and see the whole system while doing it |
| 16:51.08 | rant | but rescuing grub is still doable from a chroot and IMHO is a lot easier to do when you can do crap like lsblk, blkid, etc |
| 16:53.02 | rant | grub's rescue console addresses a narrowly scoped circumstance where its convenient to use when you have no other media.. but its a lot of much harder to use stuff to learn when keeping a bootable media and using chroot can fix all those issues and more with tools you already know how to use :p |
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| 16:56.09 | acidtripper | Hi |
| 16:56.19 | acidtripper | im having some boot low speed problems |
| 16:56.21 | acidtripper | im using lilo |
| 16:56.32 | acidtripper | kernel + initrd tried removing initrd wont boot |
| 16:56.38 | rant | acidtripper: Debian Stretch? |
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| 16:56.58 | acidtripper | any idea? is taking like 50 seconds i have i5 3570 8gb ram and a normal hdd |
| 16:57.00 | acidtripper | debian 9 |
| 16:57.03 | rant | acidtripper: if you want to remove initrd you have to recompile your kernel to not use initrd.. the debian kernels all use initrd |
| 16:57.08 | acidtripper | im booting faster with systemv |
| 16:57.10 | acidtripper | same machine |
| 16:57.29 | acidtripper | i think it's loading modules 2 imes |
| 16:57.30 | rant | acidtripper: systemd-analyze --blame may help |
| 16:57.40 | acidtripper | systemv same machine takes 38 seconds |
| 16:57.47 | acidtripper | compared to 52 with systemd |
| 16:57.53 | acidtripper | same modules, same services |
| 16:57.55 | acidtripper | same machine |
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| 16:57.58 | rant | sorry systemd-analyze blame |
| 16:58.28 | {HD} | Well, I cheated and used a grub rescue disk which allowed me to boot into my machine but it was wack. maybe I should try booting into a different restore point but I could not use the stuff I had previouse working. It sucks that it went bunk like that. |
| 16:58.29 | acidtripper | rant, that will show if modules are loaded two times? |
| 16:58.51 | rant | acidtripper: it breaks down the time on each unit.. shows where the boot time is being used |
| 16:59.02 | acidtripper | what i found is that booting from grub on debian is much faster.. |
| 16:59.08 | acidtripper | than from lilo |
| 16:59.22 | acidtripper | wird |
| 16:59.24 | acidtripper | weird |
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| 17:00.00 | rant | unless my boot takes over 10 minutes I dont really care personally.. one of the main reasons I switched to linux years ago was because windows always wanted to reboot for dumb stuff.. I dont do much booting on linux :P |
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| 17:00.39 | acidtripper | yes but systemd is supposed to reduce boot speed |
| 17:00.43 | acidtripper | and one of it goals.. |
| 17:00.57 | acidtripper | and i realize it decreased my boot time, which i dont like |
| 17:01.01 | rant | yeah well it allows for things to happen simultaneously |
| 17:01.24 | rant | but if you're not gonna use the tools it has and figure out what the problem is you're just complaining and probably shouldnt use it |
| 17:01.46 | rant | systemd-analyze blame is the first step to diagnosing boot time issues |
| 17:01.57 | acidtripper | ok let me check |
| 17:02.25 | rant | it'll give you a breakdown of time taken by each unit and you can look further into each one for optimization |
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| 17:05.39 | rant | acidtripper: you can use this for a comparison if you like I checked two systems here http://paste.debian.net/1013085/ |
| 17:06.23 | rant | only other system I have is a pi and it'd be a bit cumbersome to get the data from that and would be less comparable to your system anyhow.. these machines are both x86 and older than yours so you'd expect better times then shown there |
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| 17:07.54 | haventerminal | rant: u mean a raspberry or banana pi? |
| 17:08.06 | rant | haventerminal: orange pi |
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| 17:08.35 | rant | the cheapest of the pi :P |
| 17:08.35 | haventerminal | oh i never hear about orange pi. I take a look |
| 17:09.17 | nashimus1 | I want to make a mud pi |
| 17:09.20 | nashimus1 | :D |
| 17:09.37 | rant | I paid US$37 for an Orange Pi Lite w/ 8gb (crappy) kingston sd, heatsink, power/hdmi cable, and a little remote that has a keyboard/touchpad |
| 17:10.25 | haventerminal | its interessting alternative |
| 17:11.23 | rant | yeah.. mainline kernel support for those allwinner chips they use is finally getting to a point they may really be competition |
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| 17:12.28 | rant | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bootlin/allwinner-vpu-support-in-the-official-linux-kernel these guys are working on furthering that effort |
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| 17:12.42 | haventerminal | ok thx rant |
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| 17:23.37 | nix64bit | isnt there some scandal with allwinner chips? |
| 17:24.32 | hypn0 | intel chips? I think |
| 17:25.32 | nix64bit | as well |
| 17:25.56 | nix64bit | I am looking for the link |
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| 17:27.45 | jelly | whether there's an issue or not, there are better places to write about it: #debian-offtopic for ranting or #linux-sunxi for solving |
| 17:28.43 | nix64bit | Linux controversies -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allwinner_Technology |
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| 17:30.26 | jelly | nix64bit, don't trust everything you read on wikipedia, and please keep this channel for actual tech support |
| 17:33.10 | nix64bit | should I trust some of it? |
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| 17:35.58 | hypn0 | yeah just the bits you read :-) |
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| 17:42.21 | nix64bit | I trust nouns and prepositions more than adjectives and verbs, I had a bad experience once |
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| 17:47.00 | rocketmagnet | hi everyone, i have a few strange problems with my new thinkpad (e560), most is working i just have a few issues - i try to disable ipv6 and when i try it and test it afterwards it's working but after reboot ipv6 is enabled again :( |
| 17:47.45 | rocketmagnet | i used this guide and it works until reboot: https://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/linux/debian/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-debian-9-ubuntu-16-04.html |
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| 17:48.39 | jelly | !nopiv6 |
| 17:48.45 | jelly | !noipv6 |
| 17:48.45 | dpkg | From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, <IPv6> is built into the Linux kernel (excluding the loongson-2f flavour). To disable IPv6, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
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| 17:49.33 | rocketmagnet | cool thank you |
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| 17:50.27 | jelly | (if you use GRUB as boot loader, that means /etc/default/grub, append to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= and run update-grub) |
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| 17:51.30 | jelly | ideally you should not have to disable ipv6 at all, but ehh |
| 17:51.35 | rocketmagnet | my other issue is with my graphic cards.. i have an intel and a radeon, i tried installing firmware-amd-graphics but i get and error (parts of it are: "failed to load i915/sk1_dmc_ver1_26) and i have to enter my username & pw to boot forward ... |
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| 17:53.16 | rocketmagnet | it would be great to get 3d acceleration working from the radeon but if this is not possible i would be fine if he would just boot up without entering username/pw ? (prefered would be to have real 3d accel..) |
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| 17:55.06 | jelly | so you also need intel gpu firmware |
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| 17:55.26 | jelly | ,file sk1_dmc_ver1_26* |
| 17:55.29 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 17:55.38 | jelly | ,file sk1_dmc_ver1_26* --release stretch-backports |
| 17:55.39 | judd | No packages in stretch-backports/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 17:55.54 | jelly | rocketmagnet, which kernel version are you using? |
| 17:56.25 | mnuhmnuh | rocketmagnet: are you meaning replace gdm/xdm/lightdm/... with nodm? disable initial gui login? |
| 17:56.27 | rocketmagnet | Linux walkstation 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u1 (2017-12-23) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 17:57.04 | rocketmagnet | mnuhmnuh: its about the firmware-amd-graphics package seems to have a bug |
| 17:57.22 | jelly | rocketmagnet, intel gpu firmware is not in that package |
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| 17:57.36 | jelly | ,file skl_dmc_ver1_26* |
| 17:57.36 | rocketmagnet | jelly: when i updated within X i was not able to boot anymore at all btw. |
| 17:57.39 | judd | Search for skl_dmc_ver1_26* in stretch/amd64: firmware-misc-nonfree: lib/firmware/i915/skl_dmc_ver1_26.bin |
| 17:57.51 | jelly | do you have that one installed? & |
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| 17:58.18 | jelly | rocketmagnet, updated what? |
| 17:58.39 | rocketmagnet | you mean if i have installed firmware-misc-nonfree ? |
| 17:58.45 | jelly | yes. |
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| 17:58.58 | jelly | that's the package carrying intel gpu fw apparently |
| 17:59.58 | rocketmagnet | how to check if this package is installed ? |
| 18:00.07 | jelly | dpkg -l packagename |
| 18:00.08 | dpkg | ii packagename 3.4-5.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 18:01.03 | rocketmagnet | dpkg can't find that package |
| 18:01.03 | dpkg | rocketmagnet: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 18:01.26 | rocketmagnet | ^ sorry for that dump question |
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| 18:01.42 | jelly | rocketmagnet, that's unusual, it's in the same place as firmware-amd-graphics |
| 18:01.46 | jelly | !non-free sources |
| 18:01.46 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 18:01.54 | jelly | rocketmagnet, ^ |
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| 18:02.18 | jelly | ,v firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 18:02.19 | judd | Package: firmware-misc-nonfree on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3; stretch-backports/non-free: 20170823-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20170823-1; sid/non-free: 20170823-1 |
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| 18:06.20 | rocketma1 | i make a system image to save all my settings then i come back, thanks so far |
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| 19:09.15 | un214 | how can I tell if I have meltdown patches yet? |
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| 19:10.51 | DerLGm | un214: if you updated to the latest kernel |
| 19:11.06 | DerLGm | un214: type uname -a |
| 19:11.17 | un214 | Linux nova 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 19:11.30 | mnuhmnuh | spectre-meltdown-checker (on testing). |
| 19:12.01 | un214 | !backports |
| 19:12.01 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 19:12.40 | un214 | !simple sid backport |
| 19:12.40 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 19:12.53 | un214 | !deb-src sid |
| 19:12.53 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
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| 19:13.41 | mnuhmnuh | cool un214 :-) |
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| 19:19.17 | un214 | thanks mnuhmnuh |
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| 19:19.48 | sprite_ | hello everybody |
| 19:20.17 | sprite_ | anybody have any suggestions on how to get gcc-5 working on debian 9.3 for a really picky package? |
| 19:20.46 | un214 | debootstrap the correct version of debian |
| 19:20.52 | sprite_ | I've been trying for awhile now; starting to think it might be best for me to just create a VM with a debian inst version <9.3 and build the package as a static binary |
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| 19:21.27 | un214 | I found that a newly debootstrapped debian in a chroot jail is a really good choice for compiling a package from that version |
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| 19:22.38 | sprite_ | I've got a feeling that I'm going to mess my installation up if I try that... I was working on setting up gcc-5.5 from source and I ran into issues that were giving me the same heebie-jeebies |
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| 19:23.38 | expert975 | Sometimes when I start my system, one of my oudio outputs has no sound and I have to restart a few times to get it working. What could be causing this? |
| 19:23.45 | expert975 | *audio |
| 19:26.07 | somiaj | sprite_: hence the chroot suggestion, if you mess up teh chroot, delete it, create a new one. |
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| 19:26.54 | somiaj | expert975: audo devices are sometimes detected in different orders during boot. Maybe check how you configure which one you use, if you say use card 0, you may want to change that method. Also do you use pulseaudio? |
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| 19:28.01 | sprite_ | somiaj & un214: missed the chroot bit when I first saw that, thank you for the suggestion. I haven't got too much experience chrooting things, but I'll see if I can't find some infoz that'll help me through it |
| 19:29.02 | somiaj | they are easy to create, just look debootstrap create chroot |
| 19:29.31 | somiaj | if you wanted to get more soposicated you could look into tools like pbuilder or sbuild to automate some of this. |
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| 19:30.14 | sprite_ | awesome. didn't even realize that 'debootstrap' was a tool, I thought it was just parlance. I'm reading up on it now. thank you |
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| 19:31.26 | expert975 | somiaj: Yes, I'm using pulseaudio |
| 19:32.09 | expert975 | somiaj: I'm using debian's default, I didn't configure the audio |
| 19:32.34 | somiaj | debian's default depends on what you install, pulseaudio is only default with the desktop enviorments. |
| 19:33.06 | somiaj | anyways check the pulseaudio control tool, pavucontrol is a de independent tool you can use to configure it, you should be able to configure the correct sound card. |
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| 19:33.35 | somiaj | If pulseaudio is not seeing the sound card, check 'cat /proc/asound/cards' if the sound card is only showing up some boot but not others, you have a hardware issue of some sort |
| 19:33.57 | somiaj | but I think it is the first, you just need to configure what card you use (your system might just be defaulting to card 0 which is changing each boot) |
| 19:36.04 | expert975 | somiaj: I do have pavucontrol installed, and it shows the selected card as is correct one. It even shows the pulsating volume bar when music is playing, but without sound |
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| 19:36.25 | expert975 | somiaj: *as the correct one |
| 19:37.12 | somiaj | double check for muting, maybe you have some issue with a cable, hardware that gets fixed with reboots |
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| 19:37.43 | somiaj | but if you cannot see a differnce between pulse when it works and it doesn't, you could check dmesg, but I dont' know why your kernel would load the sound card differently |
| 19:38.14 | expert975 | somiaj: I triple checked for muting. How can the hardware get fixed with reboots? |
| 19:38.44 | awal1 | suggestion for a usb wifi adapter working nice under debian? |
| 19:38.57 | expert975 | somiaj: what am I looking for in dmesg? |
| 19:39.00 | somiaj | buggy hardware does strange things. You should check demsg and see if you see a difference in loading the sound module between when it works and it doesn't. |
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| 19:39.22 | rant | expert975: one could only speculate.. you need to do the investigation while the problem is occuring.. you also need to keep in mind WHICH apps are in question as different apps use different sound libraries and it may be related to one particular sound library |
| 19:39.23 | somiaj | stuff about the sound module for your sound card |
| 19:39.59 | somiaj | awal1: many will work, just look up a review of the chipset if poossible on google before purchasing. |
| 19:40.04 | rant | expert975: when it comes to issues you can solve or work around, and if you choose the work around (like rebooting) you are losing the information needed to solve usually |
| 19:40.04 | expert975 | rant: nothing at all plays while the device is not working. Everything plays fine when it is |
| 19:40.09 | somiaj | but usually best to see what you can get, then check how compadable it is |
| 19:40.34 | expert975 | rant: I do want to solve this instead of rebooting. Rebooting teaches me nothing :) |
| 19:41.03 | rant | expert975: I hear ya. Sound still to this day is a complex animal on linux.. lots of layers and things to check |
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| 19:41.38 | expert975 | I'll keep an eye on dmesg, not sure what else to check for |
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| 19:42.01 | BluesKaj | rebooting may not teach you anything in some cases it's required for apps to work |
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| 19:43.35 | somiaj | rant: my solution was to keep using my sblive from 1998...though it is getting hard and harder to find mobos with a pci slot... |
| 19:43.51 | somiaj | (and luckly I don't use latpops for sound) |
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| 19:50.03 | rant | heh |
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| 19:50.31 | somiaj | more sound cards just need to do hardware mixing. |
| 19:50.35 | a_f | hi folks, i'm just wondering if anyone is running Stable on a Ryzen chip. If so, how's the stability these days? |
| 19:50.46 | awal1 | somiaj, it is just bcoz of possible non-free stuff, you know |
| 19:51.03 | rant | I had an SB Live once with one of those 5.25" bay deals that goes in the front with all the extra I/O and controls |
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| 19:51.40 | somiaj | awal1: you can't really avoid non-free firmware with wifi, so I would more just look at the actual chipset and info about how well it works. |
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| 19:51.56 | awal1 | somiaj, ok |
| 19:52.20 | somiaj | rant: though I recentally (like a month ago) finally installed pulse because I had to test out an app that required it, and I must admit I like the per app volume control and the switching sound cards on teh fly. |
| 19:53.15 | somiaj | awal1: The only way I know to avoid non-free firmware and wifi is to get the ath9k chipset, and then download and flash an open firmware on it (which is in the grey area legally due to wireless regulations in different countries) |
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| 19:54.48 | awal1 | somiaj, i'll duckduck that, ok |
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| 20:07.41 | rant | somiaj: yeah its nice.. and it doesnt really use much resources so its good even on older hw |
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| 20:29.50 | spacedust | anyone using debian encrypted on an ssd ? |
| 20:30.04 | spacedust | id like to know how to use the TRIM functionaly while using LUKS encrypted drive |
| 20:30.11 | spacedust | i dont want to loose that functionality |
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| 20:36.25 | qman__ | I use full disk encryption on SSDs, and never bother with TRIM |
| 20:36.35 | qman__ | there's simply no need, modern SSDs can handle the wear |
| 20:37.40 | frostschutz | spacedust, you need allow-discards. dmsetup table | grep crypt vs. | grep allow to check if you are already using it |
| 20:37.48 | qman__ | my main workstation is on a samsung 840 pro with full disk encryption, set up circa 2012 |
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| 20:40.04 | spacedust | qman__: and no problems ? |
| 20:40.14 | qman__ | none, no appreciable wear |
| 20:41.07 | qman__ | unless you have a particularly heavy write load for some special purpose, I would not bother |
| 20:42.21 | spacedust | how to use that dmsetup command exactly ? |
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| 20:42.29 | spacedust | i can grep for crypt not for allow |
| 20:42.41 | spacedust | qman__: system disk, logs ? |
| 20:42.52 | qman__ | single disk for the entire system |
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| 20:42.59 | qman__ | no special considerations, regular desktop setup |
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| 20:43.19 | qman__ | default logging settings |
| 20:43.35 | frostschutz | spacebison, if the dmsetup table | grep allow comes up empty then you're not using allow-discards. with allow it looks like this http://termbin.com/ik0m |
| 20:44.40 | frostschutz | not using TRIM is fine too, has advantages such as... you have a chance at data recovery if you accidentally delete something. because after TRIM it's really gone |
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| 20:45.37 | spacedust | spacebison: ahaha :D they ment to tab me :) |
| 20:45.50 | frostschutz | but mkfs, lvm, swap and others might use trim without asking you. if you don't want it, need to make sure it's turned off. LUKS is the only case where you have to deliberately turn it on |
| 20:46.00 | spacedust | frostschutz: i dont mind if its really gone |
| 20:46.09 | spacedust | i hardly ever wanted to recover deleted files :) |
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| 20:47.04 | frostschutz | most people don't want to either, sometimes they have to. better to have a good backup solution :) |
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| 20:47.52 | qman__ | see for yourself, SMART data on it http://paste.debian.net/1013111/ |
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| 20:50.55 | qman__ | over 10 TBW and 40,000 hours, no reallocated sectors |
| 20:50.59 | mate-user | hi everyone :) |
| 20:51.26 | mate-user | i made a distro poll here https://strawpoll.com/sheypwzd, please vote and share :) thank you ! |
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| 20:56.47 | spacedust | qman__: thanks for the info\ |
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| 20:57.09 | spacedust | frostschutz: so i just add allow_discard to the / mount *unencrypted root* in fstab ? |
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| 20:57.49 | spacedust | mate-user: distro poll in a a distro channel ? :) |
| 20:58.00 | spacedust | or you are channel hopping and advertising everywhere ? :))) |
| 20:58.06 | spacedust | there is distrowatch.org :) |
| 20:59.08 | mate-user | spacedust, oh yeah thanks haha |
| 20:59.28 | spacedust | mate-user: you the author of the cryptopoll too ? :) |
| 20:59.33 | mate-user | i only thought to post in channels haha |
| 20:59.56 | spacedust | what if one has more then one favorite ? :) |
| 20:59.58 | spacedust | maybe i have 2-3 ? |
| 21:00.26 | mate-user | no that cryptotool link shows on all polls there |
| 21:00.28 | spacedust | mate-user: wow there are a loooot of distros |
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| 21:00.36 | spacedust | tahts the problem with linux btw toooooooo many distrorss |
| 21:00.51 | mate-user | yeah i added 307 distros, and only 200 show haha |
| 21:01.04 | mate-user | hoping lots of people vote |
| 21:01.16 | spacedust | not a single vote for debian ? :D |
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| 21:01.30 | mate-user | i should make a smaller one later with the big names and independent distros |
| 21:01.30 | spacedust | you can go to the next page on the bottom for the rest |
| 21:01.41 | mate-user | oh right |
| 21:01.42 | spacedust | oh no :) |
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| 21:01.48 | spacedust | lol no you cant its just view results |
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| 21:02.32 | mate-user | yeah limited to 200 |
| 21:02.42 | mate-user | i think it's 200 anyway |
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| 21:04.58 | mate-user | not many people voting haha |
| 21:05.31 | mate-user | maybe i'm annoying them or nobody interested haha |
| 21:06.07 | un214 | seriously, alphabet sort! |
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| 21:08.58 | dtux | is there a way to check which packages are installed by default on a given type of install (e.g. netinst, dvd1, live, etc) |
| 21:09.01 | dtux | ? |
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| 21:22.50 | ryouma | my new sound card on jessie looks like " 1 [Device ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio Device C-Media Electronics Inc. USB Audio Device at usb-0000:00:1d.2-1, full speed". what do i do to get it to be the default sound card? |
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| 21:26.52 | ryouma | i tried http://paste.debian.net/1000098/ -- but it is expired. it was somiaj's $HOME/.asoundrc. |
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| 21:36.05 | random-6881 | Hi, Can someone please tell me about a good source for someone migrating from ubuntu to debian ? |
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| 21:39.13 | un214 | I found it expediant to debootstrap debian, install all equivalents, boot a live CD, and swap the contents of / with a few mv commands |
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| 21:39.48 | petn-randall | random-6881: It's fairly straight-forward: Backup your /home, format the drive, install Debian, restore your backups. I'd use the firmware installer if you need working wifi during installation: |
| 21:39.52 | petn-randall | !firmware installer |
| 21:39.52 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 21:41.18 | un214 | on the other hand, debootstrap permits use of ubuntu's drivers to perform the install and a backout path |
| 21:41.29 | un214 | but you must be familiar with console to do it |
| 21:44.35 | random-6881 | Thanks for your answers, I have already installed debian but I have heard that it have some limitations on the type of packages you can install on it for example, I was hoping for a source that highlight the main differences between ubuntu and debian (I use mostly the terminal)! |
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| 21:45.28 | AlexPortable | Err http://ppa.launchpad.net jessie/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found |
| 21:45.45 | certifie | #ubuntu is dead long live #debian |
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| 21:48.01 | AlexPortable | how do i fix this |
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| 21:48.32 | AlexPortable | The following packages have unmet dependencies: openjdk-8-jre-headless : Breaks: ca-certificates-java (< 20160321~) but 20140324 is to be installed. E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
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| 21:52.26 | annadane | !bat |
| 21:52.26 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 21:52.29 | annadane | AlexPortable, ^ |
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| 21:55.04 | AlexPortable | https://pastebin.com/raw/8XYW6reY |
| 21:55.52 | annadane | ,v openjdk-8-jre-headless |
| 21:55.53 | judd | Package: openjdk-8-jre-headless on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 8u131-b11-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 8u151-b12-1~deb9u1; buster: 8u151-b12-1; sid: 8u151-b12-1 |
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| 21:57.02 | AlexPortable | so? |
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| 21:57.31 | annadane | i would say, maybe try it with aptitude? though 500 https://download.jitsi.org/ stable/ Packages implies you're mixing jessie with stretch |
| 21:57.53 | annadane | and also it's not in regular jessie, but in backports |
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| 22:01.33 | annadane | ,v ca-certificates-java |
| 22:01.34 | judd | Package: ca-certificates-java on amd64 -- wheezy: 20121112+nmu2; jessie: 20140324; jessie-backports: 20161107~bpo8+1; stretch: 20170531+nmu1; buster: 20170930; sid: 20170930 |
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| 22:05.34 | somiaj | dtux: the default pacakges are more dependent on what you choose during the install phase. netinst vs dvd1 is jsut the amount of packages avaiable on the install medium. If you have network access you could get the same defaults from both. |
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| 22:06.20 | somiaj | !don't break debian |
| 22:06.20 | dpkg | somebody said dont break debian was https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 22:06.38 | somiaj | random-6881: ^^ that is a good read if you are new to debian |
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| 22:16.34 | unreg | Hi there! I need some help deleting a corrupted directory |
| 22:17.14 | unreg | I followed the intructions in this site https://askubuntu.com/questions/182410/delete-corrupted-folder |
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| 22:17.36 | unreg | but don't work to me |
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| 22:30.37 | hanasaki | how do you get arial and times roman and courier installed in debian jessie with gnome? |
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| 22:33.45 | ryouma | synaptic might be useful if you want gui |
| 22:33.57 | ryouma | it has a nice font display thing too |
| 22:34.06 | ryouma | but most of us use apt-get, apt, or aptitude i think |
| 22:34.24 | mnuhmnuh | unreg: rm -r /path/to/dir |
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| 22:36.04 | unreg | mnuhmnuh: doesn't work |
| 22:36.21 | unreg | seems something more complicated |
| 22:36.22 | hanasaki | thanks. what about bookman? did seem to be included |
| 22:38.15 | unreg | returns an I/O error |
| 22:39.04 | rant | unreg: have you tried to fsck? |
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| 22:41.28 | unreg | at superuser.com find a post that says I need to execute this command |
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| 22:41.44 | unreg | sudo shutdown -r -F now |
| 22:42.08 | unreg | can I trust? |
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| 22:44.02 | donald1 | with the command apt-get --print-uris --yes install <my_package_name> | grep ^\' | cut -d\' -f2 >downloads.list I can get all the dependancies of a package for a latter offline installation. Sadly I can not get the packages allready installed. How to download even dependencies already downloaded? |
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| 22:46.55 | d3b14nL0v3r | Is there a way to remove all packages from deb-src at once, so to free up disk space? I guess I'll never really need them. |
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| 22:50.38 | bitess | source packages are not tracked like installed binary packages are |
| 22:50.51 | bitess | he gone :( |
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| 23:04.48 | rant | bitess: heh.. I was wondering why it wasnt tab-completing then I read what you said |
| 23:05.08 | rant | ignores joins/parts in #d |
| 23:06.28 | rant | donald1: apt-zip was a utility you could use to get a package and all its deps on a connected machine and move it to an unconnected one |
| 23:07.21 | rant | ,info apt-zip stretch |
| 23:07.22 | judd | No package named 'apt-zip' was found in stretch/amd64. |
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| 23:07.46 | rant | !apt-zip |
| 23:07.46 | dpkg | apt-zip has been removed post-wheezy (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=815456) see alternatives like <apt offline> or <apt-walkabout> |
| 23:07.56 | rant | apt offline |
| 23:07.56 | apt | methinks offline is the same as having the DVD (contents) sitting somewhere to get locally or and installing via USB-Modem doesn't work |
| 23:08.03 | rant | !apt offline |
| 23:08.03 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://bit.ly/1UYVX5g . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>. |
| 23:09.29 | donald1 | rant cool |
| 23:09.31 | donald1 | thank |
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| 23:09.56 | rant | donald1: good question, I had a feeling apt-zip may not be around anymore.. so I learned somethin myself :P |
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| 23:11.07 | donald1 | rant you are finally right |
| 23:11.07 | donald1 | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/apt-zip |
| 23:11.13 | donald1 | wheezy only |
| 23:11.22 | rant | donald1: yes well see what dpkg said.. |
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| 23:11.31 | rant | !apt-walkabout |
| 23:11.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, apt-walkabout is another tool for managing the distribution and upgrade of debian packages for non-connected or low-speed links computers. See http://quozl.netrek.org/apt-walkabout/ Also ask me about <apt-zip> <apt offline> |
| 23:11.39 | rant | mentioned two alternatives to apt-zip |
| 23:12.17 | donald1 | yes apt-walkout and apt-offline |
| 23:12.20 | donald1 | I wil see |
| 23:12.53 | donald1 | thank you |
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| 23:20.46 | hxmuller | hi, anyone here familiar with udisks2, udiskie and polkit? |
| 23:21.24 | annadane | hxmuller, it's faster to just ask your question rather than ask a specific person |
| 23:21.52 | Guest46390 | Is there a way to remove packages from deb-src all at once, so to free up disk space? I guess I'll never need them at all. |
| 23:23.01 | Brigo | Guest46390, i guess apt-get clean should do the work. |
| 23:23.07 | hxmuller | annadane: do tell then, how to automount an sd card without having to authenticate |
| 23:24.58 | Guest46390 | Brigo, I tried that. How could I confirm that worked? I mean, not only the packages, but I want to remove any source code that may rest unused on the hd. |
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| 23:33.08 | bitess | Guest46390: source packages don't get tracked after you donload them. they are downloaded to the directory you ran apt-get source in. so there is no command to remove them collectively. |
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| 23:37.28 | Guest46390 | bitess, so if I never ran "apt-get source", chances are I don't have any source code, is that right? The "deb-src" entries in "sources.list" only work with a specific command, is that? |
| 23:37.45 | Tom_- | yep |
| 23:37.53 | Guest46390 | Thank you. |
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| 23:41.26 | teatime | hrm, I wonder if you could contigure it in fstab, with options noauto,x-systemd.automount |
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| 23:48.58 | Brigo | Guest36293, anyway sources uses to be in /usr/src |
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