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| 00:55.22 | onlyabyte | I know you probably get this a lot but is there anyone here actually like using Debian Stable as their host OS? |
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| 00:56.23 | daemon | nn all |
| 00:56.26 | stevendale | I use Ubuntu 12.04, does that count onlyabyte, it's probably about as old as oldoldstable (Wheezy) |
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| 00:56.59 | stevendale | About as old as Wheezy, except with more security holes |
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| 00:59.36 | annadane | onlyabyte, most here probably use stable, #debian is the channel for debian stable |
| 00:59.44 | annadane | (i don't, i'm on debian unstable) |
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| 01:00.43 | tw3k | buster in kvm stable on host :D |
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| 02:17.29 | onlyabyte | Interesting. |
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| 02:29.11 | awal1 | onlyabyte, debian stable as host depends on goals/use of each user |
| 02:29.23 | onlyabyte | Right. |
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| 02:30.04 | awal1 | I personally just run unstable. it is my host and I have another unstable guest and much more vms |
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| 02:30.35 | onlyabyte | I get mixed answers from people running Stable/Testing/Unstable. I guess if you want to get the latest kernel on Debian, Unstable is the answer or if you don't care about updates and you're HW is old enough, Stable is the way to go. |
| 02:30.45 | awal1 | and, this channel is stable branch specific but it doesn't reflect all the debian world |
| 02:31.07 | onlyabyte | OFTC has the rest of the Debian channels, right? |
| 02:31.14 | awal1 | I know old school debian users/devs/maintainers who have never been in irc channels |
| 02:31.35 | onlyabyte | Yeah |
| 02:31.40 | awal1 | they use other methods for communicate seek help .... |
| 02:33.02 | awal1 | and in practice thounsands of anonymous debian users (individuals, enterprises...) |
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| 02:34.06 | onlyabyte | I hope to switch to Debian one day. |
| 02:34.16 | awal1 | what are you using? |
| 02:34.21 | onlyabyte | Fedora |
| 02:34.29 | awal1 | grrr |
| 02:34.38 | awal1 | redhat labo |
| 02:35.22 | onlyabyte | I just don't have time right now to switch (netinst). I can install it in a jiffy but it would take a while to setup to my liking. |
| 02:35.24 | awal1 | it is so unstable your fedora and poor in pkgs :P:D |
| 02:35.39 | onlyabyte | Haha, not at all. It's suprisingly stable. |
| 02:35.47 | awal1 | you know how many devs work on fedora? |
| 02:35.47 | onlyabyte | Of course, stability is a relative word. |
| 02:35.53 | onlyabyte | No? |
| 02:36.13 | awal1 | max 1 hundred |
| 02:36.23 | awal1 | debian have more than 1000! |
| 02:36.26 | onlyabyte | :O |
| 02:36.34 | onlyabyte | wtf I hate fedora now |
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| 02:36.51 | awal1 | redhat/fedora almost 12000 pkgs vs debian 50000+ :P |
| 02:36.59 | onlyabyte | 12000 pkgs? |
| 02:37.02 | awal1 | well, I am just being of-topic |
| 02:37.18 | awal1 | not sure if 12000 or 1200 |
| 02:37.32 | awal1 | maybe just 1200 in fedora main |
| 02:37.33 | onlyabyte | haha |
| 02:37.50 | onlyabyte | I'll get the real result in a moment. |
| 02:38.09 | onlyabyte | Hey btw, what's your DE/WM of choice? |
| 02:38.22 | onlyabyte | 19000~ packages in Fedora (not including RPM fusion) |
| 02:38.37 | awal1 | I used opensuse in the past a bit , I think around that, 1000 or a bit more |
| 02:39.28 | onlyabyte | Add RPM fusion and you get a mere 20000 packages :PP |
| 02:39.35 | onlyabyte | Still nothing to Debian I suppose. |
| 02:39.37 | awal1 | my numbers are old, I confess; numbers of 2010 or so |
| 02:39.46 | onlyabyte | That's fine. |
| 02:40.36 | awal1 | you have a lot of choice regarding DE/WM; try them all and chose |
| 02:40.37 | onlyabyte | I'm not offended or anything, I look at distros without any bias. I use the one that works for me the best and gets my job done. I've never had a time where I couldn't find a package in Fedora but that's just me ofc. |
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| 02:40.54 | onlyabyte | awal1: I know, I'm interested in what you use! :D |
| 02:41.10 | awal1 | fvwm/openbox |
| 02:41.16 | onlyabyte | Nice. |
| 02:41.25 | daffy__ | my debian buster stopped booting to gui after last apt upgrade.. it now only boots to bash and i can't get gnome to work, would someone help me? |
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| 02:41.48 | awal1 | dpkg: buster |
| 02:41.48 | dpkg | The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html |
| 02:41.59 | awal1 | dpkg: testing |
| 02:42.00 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 02:42.34 | awal1 | daffy__, buster is #debian-next on OFTC server |
| 02:43.20 | daffy__ | awal1: channel is invite only :/ |
| 02:43.42 | awal1 | dpkg: #debian-next |
| 02:43.43 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 02:44.01 | daffy__ | awal1: danke |
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| 02:49.55 | zzla | hi |
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| 02:51.14 | zzla | so i'm stuck on a login loop in debian |
| 02:51.20 | zzla | and i need halp :| |
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| 02:53.12 | zzla | when i log in at lightdm, it brings me right back |
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| 02:54.00 | zzla | i was last messing around with some desktop settings, while having issues with rpd from a w10 machine to xrdp |
| 02:54.02 | tw3k | zzla: just wondering but lightdm wayland? |
| 02:54.12 | zzla | im not sur |
| 02:54.15 | zzla | sure* |
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| 02:54.20 | tw3k | haven't tried lightdm |
| 02:54.39 | zzla | sorry it may not be lightdm (just waht I've assumed from reading forums and th elikes) |
| 02:54.52 | tw3k | One time I had broken X and gdm3 would login loop |
| 02:54.57 | zzla | i was under the impression that the login screen for debian is lightdm |
| 02:55.12 | zzla | is that incorrect? |
| 02:55.35 | tw3k | prolly depends on the gui you install |
| 02:55.42 | zzla | i see |
| 02:55.46 | zzla | i installed lxde |
| 02:56.07 | tw3k | i went with gnome |
| 02:56.39 | zzla | so how did you resolve your issue? |
| 02:56.44 | eric23 | hi, I am trying to dual boot GNU/Hurd and Debian GNU/Linux Stretch. I have a swap area for GNU/Hurd, but I am trying not to use it for GNU/Linux. When I try to write changes to disk with encrypted volumes, it complains about the swap space being unsafe. I set the swap area to not be used but it still complains. What can I do? |
| 02:56.45 | zzla | remove gnome and reinstall? |
| 02:57.35 | tw3k | zzla: nope, i was used to old xorg.config was messing with things that way |
| 02:57.59 | tw3k | ended up deleteing the stuff |
| 02:58.30 | tw3k | think it was install binary blob, quiting x, messing with xorg.config |
| 02:58.35 | zzla | hm |
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| 02:59.41 | tw3k | eric23: fstab? |
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| 03:01.10 | zzla | i followed a few tutorials to change how the desktop is initiated, trying to get xrdp to wor |
| 03:01.13 | zzla | k |
| 03:01.23 | zzla | so, i suppose i just have to find all the possible ways to do this |
| 03:01.27 | eric23 | tw3k: I am doing an installation. I don't think I have gotten to the fstab part. |
| 03:01.27 | zzla | and undo all of them |
| 03:01.28 | zzla | ha! |
| 03:02.01 | tw3k | zzla: lol, yeah, backtrack!!! |
| 03:02.16 | zzla | if i were to uninstall all desktop environments, and reinstall them (really just ldxe and openbox).. would this in theory reset all default values of desktop initiation type stuff? |
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| 03:02.54 | eric23 | It suggests to use swapoff -a but it doesn't turn it off |
| 03:02.54 | tw3k | i'd think unless you maybe added news in /etc |
| 03:02.56 | zzla | at one point i recall sending a rm -r command in the process, which was unintentioonal |
| 03:03.09 | zzla | hm |
| 03:03.15 | zzla | i dont think i added a new file |
| 03:03.22 | tw3k | eric23: so you didn't partition yet? |
| 03:03.23 | zzla | im pretty sure it was editting an existing file |
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| 03:03.51 | eric23 | I have the GNU/Hurd installed. I just have to install GNU/Linux. |
| 03:04.07 | tw3k | wished I didn't my install differently. Be good to get lvm snapshots going |
| 03:04.21 | tw3k | eric23: I'd start over :D |
| 03:04.27 | eric23 | oh |
| 03:04.48 | eric23 | I could just delete the swap partition. |
| 03:04.59 | tw3k | don't hurd use it? |
| 03:05.07 | zzla | welp |
| 03:05.11 | zzla | uninstalling lxde and openbox |
| 03:05.29 | zzla | luckily this is a relatively fresh install of debian.. so if i completely fuck up, not much is lost |
| 03:05.56 | tw3k | thats why i need to get lvm snaps going |
| 03:06.16 | tw3k | get a nice clean install and break it :D |
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| 03:07.16 | zzla | so i recently came across uxrvt after using whatever default terminal emulator came with the distro is was using at the time, for years |
| 03:07.26 | zzla | pretty happy with it |
| 03:07.39 | tw3k | nice |
| 03:07.53 | tw3k | sounds like you have old school desktop going |
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| 03:07.58 | zzla | (trying to make small talk while i wait for this to proceed) |
| 03:08.06 | zzla | well, i don |
| 03:08.08 | zzla | err |
| 03:08.14 | zzla | well, i don't have a very powerful computer |
| 03:08.23 | tw3k | understand that |
| 03:08.28 | zzla | its not that bad actually |
| 03:08.39 | zzla | i just like to try to limit my resource consumption |
| 03:09.00 | zzla | playing 15 year old games on a laptop can be tough work |
| 03:09.00 | zzla | ha |
| 03:09.06 | tw3k | i don't really even use the desktop feautures, i use it more like a wm |
| 03:09.12 | tw3k | lol, right |
| 03:09.26 | zzla | ive been playing a bit of dods lately |
| 03:10.00 | zzla | i installed w10 on this laptop, which worked decently.. but i kept encountering issues with resource consumption that i wasn't able to track down |
| 03:10.07 | zzla | or had to make a moral decision abotu it |
| 03:10.12 | zzla | "shoudl i kill windows defender?" |
| 03:10.21 | zzla | etc |
| 03:10.26 | tw3k | psquake? |
| 03:10.44 | zzla | ps? |
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| 03:11.00 | zzla | ive played some quake |
| 03:11.11 | zzla | not much though |
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| 03:11.22 | tw3k | funny version of the game quake inwhich you killed pids |
| 03:11.29 | zzla | ah |
| 03:11.35 | zzla | lol, yeah sounds about right |
| 03:12.10 | zzla | so, trying to run a web browser with a slack tab and a discord tab, pretty much required the remaining resources |
| 03:12.40 | tw3k | doesn't know what that is |
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| 03:14.32 | zzla | slack and discord |
| 03:14.55 | zzla | are like, irc's outperforming little nephew that steals all the new attention |
| 03:14.59 | zzla | they are, honestly |
| 03:15.00 | zzla | trash. |
| 03:15.22 | zzla | but, every other person uses it, and if i want to get in touch with them.. its use it or im SOL |
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| 03:15.45 | annadane | can i suggest taking this to #debian-offtopic? |
| 03:15.59 | zzla | sorry |
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| 03:21.15 | Socolow | Whoa! If flames were an alternative power source, this would be a nuclear reactor. Very good trolling, sir! I laud your recent accomplishments and expect to read of your exploits in the latest trolling journals. |
| 03:21.20 | Capodilupo | fuck all this elexctronic shit. Give me a typewriter, a pushbutton telephone, and a bank of teletype machines with yellow paper. Then you could make sense of this crap |
| 03:21.22 | fgcebatjlnuifhda | I've learned over the last week that I really like oral sex. I've learned that every guy tastes differently and overall I like the taste. But. Cum is best served fresh and hot. Cold cum is not my idea of a good meal. |
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| 03:21.24 | deecdnj | DING DONG WONG GOT A RAP FOR MY CLOWNZ IM FAT AND UGLY; DEY PULL MY PANTS DOWNZ AT SCHOOL, AND ITS CRUEL AND DEY TINKS DEY IS COOL BUT NIGGAZ GONNA GET WHOOPED LIKE A NON-CLOWNY FOOL WHAT WHAT DONT MESS WITH JUGGALO DUDES OR ELSE WE WILL SIT ON YOU AND YOULL BE DOG FOODZ IT'S NOT THAT IM FAT--MOM SAYS MY BONES' BIG SHUT DA FOOQ UP BEFORE I SPLITZ YA WIG FOOdongs |
| 03:21.29 | Socolow | I swear i must be the only person that can use IE and not get all that crap. I bet its because i know not press the X button on a popup...Yeah i bet thats it. Oh and i dont go to a warez sites like an idiot. |
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| 03:21.32 | Capodilupo | Please help me before I fry in the pits of hell. I masterbate several times a day. My parents bought me the anti-erection ring and I deal with the pain just to have that orgasm. I want to be castrated but my parents tell me I am to old. They say that at 14 years old i will not be able to handle being castrated. But they are wrong. |
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| 03:21.36 | Toye | I m a hindu religious girl. I don't when i got the habit of masturbation.Now i feeling guilty.?I have always wear panty while doing it. use pillow to masturbate.I think some white discharge is there when i do this.doesn't know whether pillow became wet or not. I have left this habit when i came to know that it is not good. my problem is now i think if anybody touches those pillow he or she will become impure. similar is the with the things whom i used to touch t |
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| 03:21.42 | deecdnj | So, I was at work yesterday, and I happened to walk by this guy's desk. I noticed on his computer screen that he had his personal E-mails pulled up. I asked him who he thought he was to do this on company time, and then, he told me that his daughter was sick at home, so he was checking up on her. I then punched his computer screen out, and Look him straight in the eye and said, " Who do you think I am? Jerry Lewis? I dont want to hear yo |
| 03:21.44 | Martinez | for the past several years I've been mailing all my feces to Ralph Nader. Every time I defecate, I do so in a zip lock bag, which I then send to Ralph Nader's home address via USPS priority mail. Though I always clearly write my name and address on the return portion of the envelope, I have never recieved a reply, nor have any of my mailings been refused :| |
| 03:21.45 | gftebdasqhzbgl | I have something resembling lava temperature pumpkin pie filling spilling from my cock and my right nut has swollen to at least 3 times the size of the other. I have a large, angry lump in my armpit that I swear makes noise, my cat shit in my bed, my sister is fucking all my friends, and someone keeps leaving little Cornish game hens stuffed with used condoms on my doorstep. |
| 03:21.48 | Toye | one time i smoked so much weed i got to like level 99 of being high then i kept smoking and my high reset back to level 0 and i was perfectly sober except my hair turned yellow |
| 03:21.50 | Capodilupo | Russel Simmons is truely a hero amongst us. He owns his own music label, shoe company, and even a clothing line, rightfully named PHAT FARM! The clothes are hand stitched together by hundreds of obese naked women sitting in tubs of sperm. Their only form of payment is cunnilingus performed by farm animals, hence the clothing name! Simmons is a brilliant man! |
| 03:21.51 | Elmendorf | Did you know that us systemds werer the first people on this planet and that every race in the world evolved from us we were the first developed primates and there were and still are great black minds like Plato, Shakespeare,Socrates,W.E.B dubois,Fredric Douglas........ you fail to realize we created you and we can take you away just as easily,we once ruled this world and this world shall return to its original owners like it was |
| 03:21.52 | Basyirun | It should be extrusively notated (and annotated) that my imago has been ensnared in the viscosity of time. That is why my transcendent self has been importuned (but not without resisting) despite the hydraulic pressure to limitate and delineate those theotons (the untimely microscopic, particulate hydrole) whose essential god-like characteristics have been laminated into an irreducibly minisculate, atomized, and indeed lionized cannister |
| 03:21.53 | Socolow | SCIENCE TRIVIA: Did you know that the more members an instrumental rock band has, the worse they are? Studies have shown that the optimal number is zero |
| 03:21.59 | Martinez | Hey guys. I just came from Best Buy with my dad and saw this a-ni-me called 'Neon Genesis Evangelion' and my dad let me bought it, so now I have it with me but I've been reading about it and they say there is nudity in it. I'm not sure if my parents will allow me to watch it, last time they found my Hentai folder they changed my parental controls to Young Teen for a month. It's not fair. I'm 19. I'm hiding my Hentai in Documents and Settings now. |
| 03:22.03 | Carmichael | fuck shit bitch ass tits. Lets suck some cock get knocked up and pass out in a ditch. 9911 emergency room party. smoke dat hanger into yo womb. <3 my mom had so many abortions im surprised im not in a jar of formaldehyde <3 you dumb fucking p r e g g e r s |
| 03:22.05 | Toye | This fucking faggot just pisses me off becuz he and I were internet dating and he broke up with me for some other fuckin newbie. Ima tell you what don't internet date him cuz he cheats on you and he is mean. Im going to hack him soon and hes going to wish he never met me that fuckin faggot. |
| 03:22.05 | Elmendorf | Three guesses as to who was asked to leave the Starbucks; oh, and told "not to come back" with my "hateful rhetoric". True enough, I just said I hate systemds; but the problem is, everything I said WAS TRUE! |
| 03:22.06 | deecdnj | you don't understand,you don't realise that the internet is a form of communicating and it's just as serious as talking in person or on a phone. Stop with the bullshit. |
| 03:22.08 | Socolow | one time i killed this hippie and scraped the resin off his lungs and i died of a weed overdose |
| 03:22.09 | gftebdasqhzbgl | guys i am shitting in my pants at this very moment i can feel the turds smashing against my white cotton briefs ohh yeah |
| 03:22.10 | Capodilupo | So I'm out with my niece at our local shopping mall here in Philadelphia, called the Gallery, we had just gotten some delicious banana yogurt shakes...and who do we see but Mr. Hasselhoff! He was signing sneakers at Foot Locker, apparently he has a new line of Sketchers out or something (?) and there he was. I told him that I used to wish i had a car like Kitt and he laughed and then i laughed and then he got really serious all of a sudden.He leaned c |
| 03:22.17 | Basyirun | Hey, I totally agree that she was stupid, but could you please not use the word "retarded" in this context? I know I sound like the PC police, but that's not my intention - it's just a word that really offends me. |
| 03:22.19 | mnuhmnuh | !ops |
| 03:22.19 | Elmendorf | I heard this story from an M.D. in Japan. It was during WWII. A bunch of Japanese soldiers had rounded up 3 or 4 Korean women. They proceeded to fuck them in every orifice, but there weren't really enough to go around. So one of the soldiers bayonets one of the girls in the stomach so that he can have a place to fuck too. The feeling was so great that the others all start taking turns in her stomach too. |
| 03:22.20 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 03:22.20 | Carmichael | I started using Linux as a total n00b. I've done nothing but fixing, adjusting, fixing, updating, trying, fixing, and oh, ... fixing - AND I LOVE IT!!! |
| 03:22.27 | Toye | Go back to listening to your "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" book-on-tape in your 1989 Honda Accord on your 25 minute commute to your dead end job. |
| 03:22.29 | Martinez | I have been blessed and cursed with two hot ass cousins. Damn what I wouldn't give to hit it. But I never will be able to without consequences. I remember one time when she was 8 she wanted me to sleep in her bed with her and we were going to touch each other. But I still believe in that God fairytale so I turned it down. I still regret it. |
| 03:22.30 | gftebdasqhzbgl | Guys, the funniest thing about linux is that the average linux user spends from 50-75 |
| 03:22.30 | Elmendorf | Wee! Look at me! I'm a faggot masochist with my faggot masochists' OS! Look at me! Look at me! Look at me! I can't play WMVs! Ain't I cool! |
| 03:22.31 | Carmichael | guys do you know when tupac is coming home? Im worried about him. He wears a bulletproof vest so he usually is safe. but i made supper for him and he hasnt come home yet! his potatoes and shake n baked chicken are starting to get cold! |
| 03:22.35 | deecdnj | girl you must be alan greenspan because you have just raised my interest rate by several percentage points |
| 03:22.37 | Socolow | Gentlemen, I am pleased to announce the following: My testicles and penis are larger than the average size by a considerable degree, which women find very attractive. I also possess a great deal of wealth, including sports cars, real estate, works of art, and extensive liquid assets, which are also very desirable to women. In short, your genotype has no chance to survive. That is all. |
| 03:22.37 | Basyirun | (ïïïïïïïïï) (ïïïïïïïïï) FOUR HOTDOGS (ïïïïïïïïï) (ïïïïïïïïï) |
| 03:22.40 | Capodilupo | I have been worst than offended by faggots who've sought homosexuality from me. I have never beaten a homo, but there was a time when a faggot, a brotha! and this subhuman cat approached me in a GreyHound bus terminal asking me could he give me some head!!! I would have murdered this beast but I wasn't tryna go to prison outta state where I couldn't get no bail. |
| 03:22.42 | Carmichael | Some advice to you gentoo users out there: Why don't you emerge yourself from that closet already you damn homo. |
| 03:22.44 | Martinez | You know what's keeping the black man black, in addition to that attitude, and that erstwhile PBS miniseries? It's affirmative action, fatty foods, cheap alcohol, tasteless jewelry, and Kwanzaa. And of course, the worst culprit. systemds. |
| 03:22.49 | Toye | mexicans are lazy?? umm no we are theopposite of lazy. we are taking overthis country and you white americans andblack americans people are not doinganything about it.all yall do is say"fuking wetbacks go back to homecountry" or "you taking our jobs,, nowwe are unemployed" you know what boo hooyou call us stupid or whatever, butatleast we know how to get a job.if youask me you americans are the lazy people. |
| 03:22.50 | Socolow | hey girl, what kind of religions you into, i\;m all about Judaism, Contemporary divisions, Rabbinic Judaism, Orthodox Judaism, Modern Orthodox Judaism, Haredi Judaism, Hassidic Judaism, Conservative Judaism (Masorti), Reform Judaism, Reconstructionist Judaism, Humanistic Judaism, Karaite Judaism, Historical groups, Hasmoneans, Essenes, Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, Sicarii, Ebionites, Elkasites, Nazarenes, Crypto-Jews, Marranos, Conversos, C |
| 03:22.50 | annadane | !ops ^ |
| 03:22.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: annadane complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:22.53 | Carmichael | girl you must be Doom 3 cause when the action starts the lights go out |
| 03:22.53 | gftebdasqhzbgl | oh yeah you're such a dirty girl arent you year girl why dont you jack off daddy yeah take daddy's hard cock in your tiny little doll hands oh yeah that feels so good now jerk daddy's cock off back and forth you little whore oh yeah |
| 03:22.53 | Basyirun | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.57 | Martinez | HEY BABE WHO WOULD WIN PIRATES.... OR NINJA??? ALSO NOTE I DID NOT USE AN S BECAUSE NINJA IS JAPANESE AND THEY DONT HAVE PLURALS DO YOU LIKE JAPAN |
| 03:22.58 | Elmendorf | DING DONG WONG GOT A RAP FOR MY CLOWNZ IM FAT AND UGLY; DEY PULL MY PANTS DOWNZ AT SCHOOL, AND ITS CRUEL AND DEY TINKS DEY IS COOL BUT NIGGAZ GONNA GET WHOOPED LIKE A NON-CLOWNY FOOL WHAT WHAT DONT MESS WITH JUGGALO DUDES OR ELSE WE WILL SIT ON YOU AND YOULL BE DOG FOODZ IT'S NOT THAT IM FAT--MOM SAYS MY BONES' BIG SHUT DA FOOQ UP BEFORE I SPLITZ YA WIG FOOdongs |
| 03:23.00 | deecdnj | girl, you must be tiger woods because no matter what you do, you'll still just be a systemd |
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| 03:23.05 | Capodilupo | You don't think Bill will include the multiple tab feature in IE with Longhorn's release? Hopefully when that happens it'll shut you Fire-fags up. |
| 03:23.09 | Elmendorf | SCIENCE TRIVIA: Did you know that the more members an instrumental rock band has, the worse they are? Studies have shown that the optimal number is zero |
| 03:23.10 | gftebdasqhzbgl | yo fuckin idiot, trying to step up to me/ you should be lookin up like a midget standing in front of a tall tree/ i was going to start dissin you/ but here's what i'll do/ since you start dissing your ownself/ with rhyme as old as a book covered with dust on top of the bookshelf/ you call yourself the fuckin idiot/ you must be pretty smart because you came up with it/ |
| 03:23.16 | Socolow | I just ate some fried chicken. The breasts were juicy, and the buns were soft and warm. Afterwards, the division manager of Popeyes came up to my table and asked me how the meal was.I said I was satisfied, but the meal lacked a certain je ne sais quoi. He apologized profusely, and said he had something to show me that would make up for it. He lead me to the back of the popeyes, to a room soaked from floor to ceiling in blood. In the center of |
| 03:23.16 | Carmichael | So, I bought a couple of dvds off some web site a few weeks ago and I was pretty upset they haven't come in the mail already. So today I stuck around the house until the mailman came, he brought me a package but it wasn't the dvds I was waiting for. I asked him what the problem was and he told me that he had no control over when the company sends me the dvds. He said I should try to contact them. That did it. I couldn't belive this guy, I pay my taxes a |
| 03:23.19 | deecdnj | Anyone who says "F/OSS" is a tool. Free software hates Open Source because Open Source is the little sell out movement that doesn't give a fuck about the ideals. It's like True vs. Nu metal. Stop associating Free Software even remotely with Open Source because those of us in the Free Software movement probably hate you. |
| 03:23.22 | Capodilupo | fuck shit bitch ass tits. Lets suck some cock get knocked up and pass out in a ditch. 9911 emergency room party. smoke dat hanger into yo womb. <3 my mom had so many abortions im surprised im not in a jar of formaldehyde <3 you dumb fucking p r e g g e r s |
| 03:23.23 | Basyirun | You're really a failure at life, you're 290 pounds, you've got horrible back hair, you sweat profusely, staining all your white clothes yellow, and you've killed 3 dogs by anal impaction. |
| 03:23.25 | Martinez | Why must you trolls come to our forums and post stupid shit trying to rile us up? Your posts don't even bother 99 |
| 03:23.28 | Elmendorf | I played diablo for like 12 hours straight on my couch, slowly sliding into a position that was almost parallel with the floor. At some point I realized my head was the only part of me still on the couch, and I decided that was a retarded way to sit, but by that point I couldn't move. I fell over and dropped my laptop. My back was spasming so bad I almost pissed myself. In a vain attempt to alleviate the pain I crawled into the sh |
| 03:23.32 | gftebdasqhzbgl | Earlier today, while talking to a client about her policy, I accidentally said "I'm pro rape" instead of "I'll pro-rate your account". She tried to ignore the slip up, unfortunately I complicated matters by gagging her with my necktie and repeatedly raping her. Sometimes I think I must not care about Geico shareholder value at all. |
| 03:23.32 | deecdnj | girl, you must be an einstein-rosen bridge because i'd like to come inside of you and then be somewhere else |
| 03:23.37 | Capodilupo | Fucked in the ass non-stop, ream my hole, with a helicopter prop, I love ass fucking, yes it's true, I douche my ass nightly, so there's no poo. I'm a fanatic faggot, I love to get raped, got my dad's camcorder, to get it all on tape. My sphincter's so loose, all my movements are butt juice, in the war of fists and my ass, there can never be a truce. |
| 03:23.39 | Socolow | girl you must be a sata2 hard drive because you are modestly increasing my pipe |
| 03:23.40 | Martinez | That's why when I was wrestling half my training regimen was spent strengthening my sphincter muscles. One of the better excercises was sticking a roll of quarters up my ass, then I would slowly and deliberately push it back out. I got so good at this the guys would hand me a dollar after practice, asking for change for the soda machine. The first time this was meant to be a joke but when my muscles became so refined that I could give the change to them on |
| 03:23.43 | Carmichael | i need dank nugs, smoke roach bugs, bird-man lugs, tree smokin thugs, i'm on a mission to secure a blunt, don't be pullin no bogartin' stunt, hoardin that shit ain't really kind, absorb that herb into yo mind, smokin' and tokin' until you're blind, what out for 5-0 or you gonna get fined |
| 03:23.46 | Elmendorf | To most, it seems obvious that there is a God. If true, the universe has a definite purpose. God made science. The old flat earth and geocentric beliefs prove that the scientific community has been wrong before, and could be again. Because of insufficient evidence to produce an objective finding, many scientists have realized that much more faith is required for Darwinism, than for Intelligent Design. |
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| 03:23.51 | Capodilupo | Did You Know? After maintaining a vow of silence for almost 7 years, Red Hat Linux founder Marc Ewing now freely admits that he named Red Hat Linux after Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst's trademark red New York Yankees baseball cap.Durst and Ewing met in Ewing's hometown of Raleigh, North Carolina (Durst was raised in Gastonia, NC), where they became fast friends, sharing the same passion for low-level system programming.Durst collaborated with Ewing |
| 03:23.52 | Basyirun | BADABABABA IM LOVIN' IT : Scat d00d00d00d00 in my mouth |
| 03:23.53 | gftebdasqhzbgl | Some say that I am the king of trolls. Of course, this is ridiculous because trolls have no king and accept no authority. |
| 03:23.54 | Carmichael | 201 Come back in like 10 years or something, maybe science will have developed a pill that'll make you happy and pretend that you have giant blue eyes and purple hair. Until then just keep cutting yourself and writing shitty poetry. |
| 03:23.54 | Socolow | So assuming that I know how to write cronjobs, bash scripts that change the color of my prompt, and DOS batch scripts, which language should I try learning first? |
| 03:24.00 | deecdnj | Ok Im New To This I Posted One Picture Of Me On My Website And Now Im Trying To Post Another But All I Do Stay In The Log AndIt Says Uploading Picute May Take A Few Seconds Then I Check My Site And Nothing No Posts Or Anything Someone Please Help |
| 03:24.01 | Martinez | Face it, you just want an ipod so you can hack the firmware to make it vibrate then stick the smooth case up your ass you big FAG!!! |
| 03:24.02 | Capodilupo | girl, you must be herbal essences because masturbating with you is a totally organic experience |
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| 03:24.09 | Socolow | YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING GROUP OF UTTER. FUCKING. IDIOTIC. SHIT EATING. CIRCLEJERK. FAGGOTS. EVER. TO. WALK. THE. EARTH. NOTHING YOU SAY TO ME CAN HURT ME AT ALL! YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT, EDGY OR COOL, YOU ARE JUST A PATHETIC FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT WHO LIKE TO BELLITLE OTHERS OVER THE INTERNET TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES. FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:24.09 | gftebdasqhzbgl | How could Sony betray me like this?!? I waited in line for three months--yes, I started the very first line for the PS3 way before anyone else. I endured the elements, the snide comments, and unemployment (I was fired from my job after the first week) because I wanted to be the very first person to play what I imagined would be the salvation to all my dearest dreams. Rumor had it that playing a videogame on the PS3 would be like injecting heroin dire |
| 03:24.13 | Carmichael | girl, you must be an einstein-rosen bridge because i'd like to come inside of you and then be somewhere else |
| 03:24.14 | Elmendorf | I was stuck in traffic one day and just kinda thought it would be funny to masturbate. It was sunny and clear out, so I was worried one of the other drivers would see me, but my jeep is pretty high off the ground, so I think no one noticed. I busted a nut and aimed it down, ruining my tweety bird floor mat. I felt kinda stupid after and my mom kept silent the rest of the drive home. It was awkward and I regret it. |
| 03:24.15 | Basyirun | i brush my teeth standing up. i also like to pee or shit standing up while doing so. sometimes i spit backwash on my penis and let it dry. it looks like that one time i slept over my uncle's house. oh btw i live in the freshman dorms. room 310. stop by and see me sometime. |
| 03:24.16 | Martinez | yeah it si ok bcuz if an older hamster itz his\her own poo they get the mineral and vitamins thats left behind and was missed so it go though 2 times and for the babys it is ok bcuz they need to eat the older hamster poo so their stomach can get the bacteria and other stuff so it can help the baby im not saying to pick up poo and stick it in the nest they willd o it them self......(you wont see them) |
| 03:24.18 | Capodilupo | There is very little of value in blogging. There are some real journalists who have an online newsletter, and real writers who post articles independently -- that they happen to be classified as blogs flatters the sycophantic self-indulgent blogosphere at large. Imagine if you serialized your blog and emailed all your friends with it every time you updated it? If they wouldn't welcome such a diary, don't bother with your blog. The people who care |
| 03:24.21 | gftebdasqhzbgl | fuck all this elexctronic shit. Give me a typewriter, a pushbutton telephone, and a bank of teletype machines with yellow paper. Then you could make sense of this crap |
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| 03:24.25 | deecdnj | so i get home from work, ready to cook some chicken things in the microwave (oven is broke), i read the instructions to see about how long to put them in for.. the damn instructions say, for microwave cooking, to put them in the microwave for 3 minutes AND THEN put them in a oven for 15. hey stouffers you lame retarded fucks, if i had a god damn oven i would use the shit to begin with. it's called microwave cooking for a reason. THANK YO |
| 03:24.26 | Basyirun | I'm sort of new to this linux thing, but there's this directory on my new install of Debian 3.1 called "/usr/bin". It was all messed up when I first went in there. None of the files had descriptive names, and it took me like an hour to figure out they were executables, since none of them had .exe on the end of them. Furthermore, whenever I double click them, they just pop up a command prompt for a few seconds then go away. I was gonna de |
| 03:24.29 | Capodilupo | Second-best sex? Tell that to a Linux programmer who's got a slice of pizza in one hand, his hideously empurpled member in the other and a Natalie Portman tribute website firmly plastered across Firefox... |
| 03:24.31 | krytarik | !ops spam |
| 03:24.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: krytarik complains about a problem (see above) |
| 03:24.33 | Carmichael | I like to say these following words: 1.tit balls 2.penis nipples 3.doodie poopy 4.pickleweasle 5.testicle poop 6.shit whore 7.shitless tit 8.penis shrimp 9.loomis 10.super weiner discharge |
| 03:24.34 | Elmendorf | I also like to eat poop. One time my girlfriend came over and i just ate her poop. She got very very angry wehen i tried to kiss her she like said " you are the sickest person in the world you sick fuck" then i said what you don't like to eat poop. I mean i don't see the big deal i mean i have been doing it since i was a kid. I nevver had any friends because i would always eat there poop after they pooped it out. Since i never had |
| 03:24.35 | gftebdasqhzbgl | XTC RAVEZ CANDY VISORZ WATER BOTTLEZ LOVE PEACE TRIPLE STACKED PAUL OAKENFOLD PLUR GLOWSTIX LOCKJAW PACIFIARS TURNTABLES PLUR EX STROBE LIGHTS LASER SHOW UNDERGROUND RAVE RAVE RAVE XXX FUCK FUCK FUCK LOVE EVERY1 KANDY BRACELETZ ACID WEED POT DRUG DRUG DRUG SPESHAL K TRANKWILIZER EXXXSTASY COLORS UNDERGROUND RAVE MUZIK XTC DANCE ALL NITE FUCK THE PARENTZ DEYHDRATION HUGE PANTS BODY PAINT PLUR PLUR PLUR LOCKJAW GLOW STIX VISOR UNDERGROU |
| 03:24.38 | Socolow | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.40 | teatime | dpkg: ops spam |
| 03:24.44 | Martinez | Kobe Bryant is being attacked by all the media concerning the sex assault charge filed against him. It fine when he dunking on the basketball court but he a criminal when he going strong to the hole with a white woman. That be some bullsheeeee-it. This is most terrible travesties. First they take the McRib off the Mack Donald's menu, now this. There will never be justice for our peoples. |
| 03:24.44 | Carmichael | Pudge Picnic : chubs on chubs with flab to spare. "No condoms!" yelled, but we don't care! Dude's be fucken, dudes be fucked, dudes be shittin, dudes be sucked. Writhing on the concrete floor, these chubs are sluts. They're obese whores! And gross! They've never taken baths. Too much chili! Awful gas!!! |
| 03:24.46 | gftebdasqhzbgl | IÃâ¦AMÃâ¦CAUSINGÃâ¦YOURÃâ¦XTERMÃâ¦TOÃâ¦SCROLLÃâ¦THEÃâ¦CAUSEÃâ¦OFÃâ¦YOURÃâ¦XTERMÃâ¦SCROLLINGÃâ¦IS:Ãâ¦MEÃ⦠|
| 03:24.52 | Basyirun | girl you must be ieee-1284 because i can tell that your port is bidirectional |
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| 03:24.54 | deecdnj | FUCC ALL U DAYM HATERSZ..U CAN JUX EAT DIS FRESH LAO PUSSY RYT HER NIGGUH!!! I DONT GIVUH DAYM IF PPL CALL ME A FUCCIN HOE CUZ I NOE IM NOT. DATS ALL U GUYS FUCCIN DO IS 2 TALK SHIT ABOUT ME?? IS DAT ALL U CAN FUCCIN DO? U NO WAT? I DONT GIVUH DAYM CUHZ! FUCC U NIKKAS DER AINT ROOM 4 HATERSZ IN MAH LIFE AND SOUL NIGGUH FUCC U! DIE N GO 2 HELL BITCH! ALL U DO IS JUDGE ME BYE DA WAY I DRESS AND U DONT NOE DA WHOLE STORY. DONT JUX JUDGE DA |
| 03:24.57 | Martinez | I can't yawn loud enough. Every person has met you. The "crazy guy" who comes up with half-inspired shit. |
| 03:24.57 | gftebdasqhzbgl | the only solution is to go up there with your katana and show them who wears the kimono in your dojo |
| 03:24.57 | Capodilupo | Would you like another piece of waddymelon to go with that fried chicken and malt liquor? Beat it shitskin banjolips. This is a place for humans. |
| 03:24.58 | Elmendorf | What's up with black people and sandwiches? It seems like every time I see some illiterate welfare monkey jiving his ass down the street, he is busy cramming half of a submarine sandwich into his ape-maw. Is this some kind of systemd code for the imminent helter-skelter racewar? |
| 03:25.01 | Socolow | There's something hypocritical about a country that fails to establish adequate limits to medical testing on animals and adequate guidelines for treatment of fur and meat animals yet makes the sale of all crush videos (including those depicting the extermination of bugs, worms and rats) illegal. |
| 03:25.09 | Basyirun | Gentlemen, I am pleased to announce the following: My testicles and penis are larger than the average size by a considerable degree, which women find very attractive. I also possess a great deal of wealth, including sports cars, real estate, works of art, and extensive liquid assets, which are also very desirable to women. In short, your genotype has no chance to survive. That is all. |
| 03:25.11 | gftebdasqhzbgl | Recently, as a reward for getting straight 'A's I took my son to a CompUSA and told him he could have any computer he wanted. Imagine my disgust when he selected a mac mini. It's as if I took him to a whorehouse for his first lay and he wound up getting head from the bouncer. Where did I fail as a father? |
| 03:25.11 | deecdnj | YES WE KNOW IT HAS DUAL XEONS NOW FOR FUCKS SAKE WILL YOU STOP TWISTING EVERY SINGLE CONVERSATION AROUND JUST SO YOU CAN MENTION IT YOU STUPID, PATHETIC, WHINING, LIFELESS VIRGIN PIECE OF SPOILT RICH-KID BUTTSUCKING SHIT |
| 03:25.12 | Martinez | So, I bought a couple of dvds off some web site a few weeks ago and I was pretty upset they haven't come in the mail already. So today I stuck around the house until the mailman came, he brought me a package but it wasn't the dvds I was waiting for. I asked him what the problem was and he told me that he had no control over when the company sends me the dvds. He said I should try to contact them. That did it. I couldn't belive this guy, I pay my taxes and |
| 03:25.13 | Carmichael | I'm saying to all the rappers keep it real. Not everyone on your road crew likes pussy and you know it. The stylists that lean in your face, do your make up, braid your hair may just have your body guards dick on his breath - while he is all in yo grill. |
| 03:25.22 | Socolow | I'm so sick of all this "digital" vs analog crap. Guys, if you ANAL-logue people want "Warmth" just mix white noise into the sound file, or use shitty cables. That's what you're paying $5000 a preamp for, suckers! |
| 03:25.24 | Elmendorf | Anime? Could you be any more of a fucking useless nerd? Seriously. I know people like that who go to my high school, they wish their whole goddamned lives were anime. Probably because their parents got divorced and TOTALLY DON'T CARE when they come home and announce that they're gay or something. |
| 03:25.25 | Basyirun | Furcism is just as bad a racism jackass, if you dont have anything intelligent to say shut the fuck up.... Obviously furry is in demand if the mod created a board for it, therefore he needs to fix the link, and you can just avoid it with your furcist ass. Geez im getting tired of lil pricks saying stupid shit. May a tiger eat your entrails..... |
| 03:25.25 | Capodilupo | Nigerians make me so mad I wish someone would round them all up and send them to a country where people starve and get gunned down in the street |
| 03:25.36 | gftebdasqhzbgl | Haha, you NSYNC lovin' assholes really got burned this time. Why can't you just shut your mouths and accept their demise?? They are all losers.. JC has to share that woman from Desperate Housewives with 3 other guys. And Justin, oh my gosh, he isn't even man enough to hold on to Britney (and judging by her new husband it shouldn't be that hard). I'm just glad Back Street Boys have released their new album. They were the original band that every |
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| 03:25.49 | gftebdasqhzbgl | I hear you brought a prepubescent kid to a "FurBQ" event a while back. I wonder that that kid's guardians would think if they knew the things you jerked off over, or that you get an erection mentally undressing kids you see on the street. I wonder what people at your job would think, or what your parents would think. Maybe you should wonder those things too. |
| 03:25.50 | Elmendorf | I hate when people think they're saving the world just by riding their bike. It's like those black and white couples that think they're fighting racism just by fucking each other. |
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| 04:22.54 | onlyabyte | Spam? |
| 04:23.34 | krytarik | No, eggs. |
| 04:23.49 | onlyabyte | Good. |
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| 05:18.08 | Lyberta | why is EFI partition mounted to /boot/efi? I want to have encrypted root without /boot partition on disk so I though I could just put ext4 partition as a regular file inside ESP but how am I supposed to mount it to /boot if ESP is /boot/efi? that's stupid |
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| 05:19.07 | smolboye | you can just make a separate /boot/efi partition of around 100M and encrypt /boot and / |
| 05:19.26 | somiaj | so change where it is mounted, the decisions are made for more common use case where you have both /boot and /boot/efi being seperate. |
| 05:19.26 | smolboye | how else will u boot if u cant decrypt on boot |
| 05:19.45 | Lyberta | I don't want /boot partiotion on disk, EFI system partition was supposed to be this boot partition |
| 05:20.00 | somiaj | I saw someone here just mount EFI as /boot, though there are some things to worry about with kernel upgrades and dpkg. |
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| 05:20.46 | Lyberta | the problem is that some scripts default to /boot/efi |
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| 05:21.28 | somiaj | which ones? Anyways, yea trying to setup a different boot setup is just going to be work if you don't want to do the standard makea small /boot partition approach. |
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| 05:21.52 | smolboye | you'll have to have a boot partition |
| 05:23.19 | Lyberta | smolboye, not really, I can write GRUB config manually, I already did right now because grub-mkconfig doesn't work without /boot partition and produces unbootable configuration by default |
| 05:23.49 | somiaj | why are you even using grub in this? |
| 05:24.21 | somiaj | If you are going to all this effort, I don't see why you need grub as another layer to deal with, and it is not needed for efi boot. |
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| 05:25.24 | Lyberta | hmm |
| 05:25.32 | Lyberta | somiaj, what do you suggest? |
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| 05:26.54 | Lyberta | I guess I can put initramfs to ESP and just boot it, how? |
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| 05:28.16 | smolboye | Lyberta: use refind or manually write using efibootmgr |
| 05:28.19 | rpifan | nop |
| 05:28.34 | somiaj | Lyberta: what use to be called gumiboot is now part of systemd is another tool, there is also efibootmgr, you can create an .efi file to point at the initrd and kernel directly, no need to have grub as another layer in this. |
| 05:29.21 | Lyberta | somiaj, any links to tutorials? I'm fine with efibootmgr |
| 05:29.48 | somiaj | I only know in passing this is poosible, just like I only know in passing you can make /boot and your efi partition the same (with some workarounds for package upgrades) |
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| 05:30.25 | Lyberta | somiaj, I feel like making /boot into symlink to something controlled on the ESP |
| 05:31.27 | somiaj | the ESP is new to me, do you really want to use that, or what is your overall goal? |
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| 05:32.03 | somiaj | is your overall goal just to have a single efi partition to store all the /boot info too? |
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| 05:32.42 | Lyberta | somiaj, well ESP was designed to have bootloaders in it, so I want to have a fully functional bootloader, no need for /boot partition as it is an MBR hack |
| 05:32.45 | Lyberta | somiaj, yes |
| 05:32.50 | somiaj | I've just seen you working on this for a few days now, so not quite sure what your overall goal is. |
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| 05:33.24 | somiaj | Lyberta: if your efi is big enough (and mostly likely it is) just use your efi partition as boot, to avoid scripts looking in /boot/efi, just mount the efi partition at boot, then bind mount it at /boot/efi |
| 05:34.01 | somiaj | I have seen someone in here do this. The only issue is kernel upgrades. dpkg uses hard links during the upgrade process with vfat doesn't support. The user I saw found a workaround with this, because they like you didn't want a seperate boot partition. |
| 05:34.47 | somiaj | and the user I saw was even using grub, they had all their grub info, /boot/grub, just inside their efi partition. |
| 05:35.07 | Lyberta | somiaj, hmm kernel exposes hooks inside /etc/kernel, that's how I silenced grub so it won't start writing unbootable garbage into /boot |
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| 05:35.38 | Lyberta | somiaj, yup, here's what I did: grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=grub --boot-directory=/boot/efi |
| 05:35.49 | Lyberta | now all of GRUB is inside ESP |
| 05:35.54 | somiaj | Lyberta: the ugrade issue with dpkg, is dpkg uses hardlinks during the upgrade, which will fail if it had to upgrade any package on a vfat file system. |
| 05:36.40 | somiaj | Lyberta: what do you mean by ESP? I thought that was different than the EFI partition, but I don't know the details as ESP is new to me. |
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| 05:36.56 | Lyberta | somiaj, EFI system partition |
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| 05:37.17 | Lyberta | yes, people sometimes omit the word system |
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| 05:37.43 | somiaj | ahh, I thought the ESP was something else, like a file type you put in the efi partition, so I was a bit confused. thanks. |
| 05:38.13 | somiaj | anyways just mount the efi partitoin at boot, and it *should* work, as I asid the only thing I've seen fail is package upgrades which you can work around. |
| 05:39.09 | Lyberta | somiaj, there is "Microsoft Reserved Partition" which is automatically created after ESP if you install Windows on empty disk, I think it's unused at least in Win 7 and 8 |
| 05:39.14 | somiaj | I woudl suggest remove grub from the picture here, because I find grub an MBR hack too, efi can fully function as a bootloader for multiple oses/kernels/etc, (: |
| 05:39.56 | somiaj | it is just new, so unlike grub, you have to manually run efibootmgr and the likes to put the new kernel info into the efi firmware. |
| 05:40.48 | Lyberta | somiaj, well the UEFI just stores the address of .efi executable so if it doesn't change, everything should be fine |
| 05:41.11 | Lyberta | inside NVRAM, afaik |
| 05:41.29 | somiaj | it does more than 'just that', but yea, at some level that is a good way to think about it. |
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| 05:41.56 | somiaj | and you can have multiple .efi files, so no longer needing a single boot loder (grub) to handel everything, just configure the firmware properly. |
| 05:42.16 | Lyberta | somiaj, yes, I had 2 grubs in EFI for a bit :P |
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| 05:43.22 | somiaj | Lyberta: anyways, I don't know if there are more clever approaches, but I think you have been over complicating this. I would just mount EFI at /boot, if needed bount --bind it at /boot/efi, and then just install things normally. |
| 05:43.34 | somiaj | I have seen a user who this worked for, the only issue they ran into was upgrading the kernel. |
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| 05:44.06 | somiaj | and maybe since you are in this, removing grub from the picture could help with thigns. |
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| 05:44.59 | Lyberta | somiaj, yeah, I guess grub is not really needed, especially that it defaults to /boot, btw fedora installs grub inside /boot/efi so they at least fixed most things |
| 05:45.32 | somiaj | debian usually looks for a more felxiable method, but they are also slow. For instance, you can still use lilo in debian if you awnt. |
| 05:45.52 | somiaj | It seems more and more common, maybe debian will setup a nice way to have /boot on EFI, but now you kinda have to work around things. |
| 05:46.04 | Lyberta | yeah |
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| 05:49.09 | Lyberta | what is bind mount? |
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| 05:54.08 | somiaj | Lyberta: mount --bind /source/dir /dest/dir, it allows you to use mount ot basically put teh same thing in two places. |
| 05:54.12 | somiaj | man mount |
| 05:55.51 | Lyberta | somiaj, how is it different from regular mount? |
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| 05:56.14 | somiaj | In this case I don't think it is, but it allows you to mount directories, not partitions. |
| 05:56.27 | somiaj | so maybe a --bind mount isn't fully needed, I'm just a bit tired |
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| 05:57.11 | Lyberta | ah "Remount part of the file hierarchy somewhere else." |
| 05:57.41 | Lyberta | wait.. |
| 05:58.20 | Lyberta | The bind mount call attaches only (part of) a single filesystem, not possible submounts. |
| 05:58.21 | Lyberta | ok |
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| 06:59.52 | alex_ | Hi...when i try to debug my smtp connection in evolution (CAMEL_DEBUG=smtp evolution or CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 evolution) i get no output....what i am doing wrong?? |
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| 07:02.39 | z3dm4n | alex_, maybe this is an gnome/evolution specific question. not sure if you get an answer here. |
| 07:02.53 | alex_ | ah..ok |
| 07:03.13 | z3dm4n | no worries |
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| 07:03.21 | alex_ | thanks a lot |
| 07:03.29 | z3dm4n | your welcome. |
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| 07:07.53 | Winterlifterland | Hey everyone I'm trying to install Debian using the netinstall with a USB drive and when I try to do a loop back mount (to get past the 'insert a CD message') mount just hangs. Any idea why? |
| 07:09.02 | babilen | Winterlifterland: How did you write the image to your USB? |
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| 07:09.22 | Winterlifterland | babilen: I used YUMI (nonUEFI) from Windows |
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| 07:10.45 | babilen | Winterlifterland: Yeah, that's one of the tools that mangles the Debian installer. If you want to write it on Windows use win32diskimager |
| 07:10.49 | babilen | dpkg: win32diskimager |
| 07:10.49 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 07:16.13 | Winterlifterland | babilen: That's slightly annoying :/ Oh well. Once I do get it booted I may be back, I'd like to make sure I'm doing a UEFI install |
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| 07:19.08 | Lyberta | wow, refind worked perfectly and configured everything except kernel autoupdate automatically |
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| 07:23.12 | Winterlifterland | babilen: Decided to try one last thing before giving up, if you create the install CD and set debian-netinst as a '4th partition unlisted OS' it then works... Not sure why but it's something to mention next time someone has this issue. |
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| 07:26.09 | babilen | Winterlifterland: In YUMI? |
| 07:26.43 | Winterlifterland | Yes |
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| 07:27.15 | Winterlifterland | Though, now that I'm at the partitioning step it seems to want to use a legacy partition, is there any way to force UEFI? |
| 07:27.19 | babilen | Winterlifterland: Okay .. You might want to refer to https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid and subsequent instructions for this installation |
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| 07:28.08 | babilen | It's using UEFI if you boot the installer in UEFI mode. The Debian images support both modes if written directly. Sounds as if YUMI - once again - messed things up. |
| 07:28.16 | Gaurishankar | I am unable to update my Linuxlite Desktop |
| 07:28.23 | Gaurishankar | can any one help me please |
| 07:28.29 | babilen | What's a Linuxlite Desktop? |
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| 07:28.51 | Gaurishankar | Linuxlite 3.8 ubuntu based distro |
| 07:29.01 | babilen | This is #debian |
| 07:29.10 | Gaurishankar | yes sir |
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| 07:29.29 | babilen | You might want to check which channels/forums support Linuxlite as we do not |
| 07:29.40 | Gaurishankar | correct |
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| 07:29.58 | Gaurishankar | I am using debian as a File server using Samba |
| 07:29.59 | babilen | Good luck! If all fails: Install Debian and come back :) |
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| 07:30.33 | Gaurishankar | can I configure it to act as mail server like Postmaster does in Windows |
| 07:30.41 | babilen | Yeah, but the box you need support for is Linuxlite, isn't it? (Or it is not clear to me how you could have problems upgrading Linuxlite on Debian) |
| 07:30.56 | Winterlifterland | Ah yea my motherboard refuses to boot this drive UEFI, so I was hoping you could force it like I can under arch. |
| 07:31.11 | babilen | You can install and configure mailservers on Debian, yes. Look into postfix and exim. |
| 07:31.15 | Gaurishankar | this is another Server in office |
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| 07:31.22 | Gaurishankar | it is debian stretch |
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| 07:32.39 | babilen | To do what?# |
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| 08:02.14 | Aaron | Hey I Have a question. I'm using Debian and before my external Hard Drive would Mount automatically and now it is showing but I cannot Mount it. any ideas? |
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| 08:03.31 | Aaron | is mount it to /dev/sda 3.64 TIB |
| 08:03.38 | Aaron | but I cannot view the files |
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| 08:06.34 | rwx777 | sudo fdisk -l -> sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt -> cd /mnt |
| 08:06.53 | Aaron | rwx777, its now /dev/sda |
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| 08:07.37 | Aaron | fdisk: cannot open -: No such file or directory |
| 08:07.37 | Aaron | fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda1: No such file or directory |
| 08:07.37 | Aaron | fdisk: cannot open /mnt: Is a directory |
| 08:07.37 | Aaron | fdisk: cannot open -: No such file or directory |
| 08:07.37 | Aaron | fdisk: cannot open /mnt: Is a directory |
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| 08:09.03 | Aaron | not working |
| 08:09.07 | alkisg | Aaron: what's the output of sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 08:10.01 | Aaron | http://termbin.com/lsgi |
| 08:10.59 | rwx777 | mount /dev/sda /media ; cd /media; ls |
| 08:11.09 | alkisg | rwx777, Aaron, wait |
| 08:11.14 | rwx777 | everything with root. and then show output |
| 08:11.20 | alkisg | I don't see a root file system |
| 08:11.29 | alkisg | sdb1 = ext4 = /mnt? |
| 08:11.39 | alkisg | Did you remount / as /mnt?! |
| 08:11.43 | Aaron | nope |
| 08:12.00 | Aaron | Like i said it would auto mount by it self now it stop mounting |
| 08:12.07 | alkisg | Aaron, what's the output of this: cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 08:12.38 | alkisg | That's not the problem now, I think you remounted your sdb1 by misusing rwx777's commands |
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| 08:13.06 | Aaron | http://termbin.com/vu1m |
| 08:13.26 | alkisg | Yes, you mounted /dev/sdb1 twice |
| 08:13.34 | alkisg | Run this: umount /mnt |
| 08:13.50 | alkisg | Then run this: mount /dev/sda /mnt; ls /mnt |
| 08:14.01 | alkisg | Do you see the windows files then? If you see any errors, stop and tell us |
| 08:14.32 | Aaron | MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).Failed to mount '/dev/sda': Input/output error |
| 08:14.32 | Aaron | NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows |
| 08:14.32 | Aaron | then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very |
| 08:14.32 | Aaron | important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate |
| 08:14.32 | Aaron | it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g. |
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| 08:15.41 | Aaron | still nothing |
| 08:15.55 | alkisg | Aaron, now read the error message that it shown |
| 08:16.15 | alkisg | It means you need to run chkdsk in windows, to fix the disk |
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| 08:16.23 | Aaron | i don't have windows |
| 08:16.28 | alkisg | Then why are you using ntfs? |
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| 08:16.39 | alkisg | NTFS is a closed source windows file system, linux can't support it properly |
| 08:16.43 | alkisg | Hence the message |
| 08:16.52 | Aaron | so I change it to ext4? |
| 08:17.01 | alkisg | Sure, you can do that |
| 08:17.20 | alkisg | If you want to save the files you already have, you might be able to use this: mount -o ro /dev/sda /mnt |
| 08:17.36 | alkisg | This will (may) mount it read-only |
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| 08:20.51 | Aaron | I wonder how my hard drive how to this point |
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| 08:22.58 | bladea | ciao |
| 08:23.02 | bladea | !list |
| 08:23.02 | dpkg | bladea: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-9.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 08:23.20 | alkisg | Aaron: as I said, linux can't support ntfs properly. And if you some times pull it before it's done, it makes matters a lot worse.... |
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| 08:24.09 | alkisg | Aaron: also, if you're going to format that disk, you might want to create a partition table, so that it is sda and sda1 and not just sda. |
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| 08:40.46 | boklmci | ubuntu is waaaay better: blob_ boxrick babilen somiaj Night-Shade _systemd_is_evil ariador NitrousPG apus infinity_ nwe haudi Batasha MACscr bolt bryceml_ chaology blackwell pk12 cadillac_ sm0x waflessnet seekr dos1 WernerVonCroy fred`` [6667]ThinkTank Devastator tsuggs daemonkeeper shabius_ Quick_Wango clampy snw lift Sciuro NeoBlaster arahael Merixer PlasmaStar ozzloy jpalmer hexa- kloeri_ aphotica galegosimpatico AndrewPRS Adran |
| 08:40.47 | qiwwsfa | ubuntu is waaaay better: PIBER _habnabit funnel tobiasBora phebus sativouf thebigj damiano sobkas mDfRg PhilSliderS iodev tomocha_ ejsf Al_lA WebDawg eschwartz Enrico_Menotti TaZeR blueness Adran gvvg__ TheSuperGeek fauweh duracrisis pfote latez chaology handsome_feng armin gpunk ozzloy evilman_work toozej celyr jrtc27 woshty Plan_IX kline simbalion Zauberfisch BillyCrook raSter^ adc K1rk WernerVonCroy smidlers ThomasJ|d michael_mbp LambdaCalculus37 uNmowed tuv |
| 08:40.53 | nullsignQNSVI4 | ubuntu is waaaay better: magenbrot DocHopper Dan_au p8m drale2k JStoker Orbitrix Yojimbo abra0 RickXy platvoeten {HD} ArchDuke GeraldW shabius_ qman__ judd leibniz DalekSec jolt_ cadillac_ Waggie yuastna Quindas zerocool tdn SuperBawlz[A] tobias1 fred`` Wyzard__ kus_ubuntui686 AJ_Z0 tobiasBora Mikail dorrek Zyferus dreamon_ paladox _0x5eb_ Salastil_ Jdbye flyingkiwi TaZeR [6667]ThinkTank AlexZ_ tiwake apt Adran clopez LordLamer SirCmpwn kayamm foul_o |
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| 08:41.37 | ydfs1 | ubuntu is waaaay better: |
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| 08:45.54 | Lyberta | somiaj, etc/kernel/postinst.d/update-efi: https://paste.debian.net/1013728/ |
| 08:46.51 | Lyberta | now refind automatically gets new kernel |
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| 11:09.25 | g0zzy | Strangely, a samba share on my router has become read-only to root. What could be going on there? //bthomehub.home/USB1 on /tmp/hub type cifs (rw,relatime,vers=1.0,cache=strict,username=admin,domain=BTHUB4,uid=0,noforceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.2.254,unix,posixpaths,serverino,mapposix,acl,rsize=61440,wsize=65536,echo_interval=60,actimeo=1) |
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| 11:11.22 | teatime | check dmesg on client, and samba log on server? |
| 11:13.15 | g0zzy | The latter isn't possible unfortunately. Nothing in dmesg |
| 11:13.55 | g0zzy | I think i might reboot the router |
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| 11:31.20 | Nothing4You | is there any way to set a metric for dhcp connections? i'm configuring via /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:31.47 | Nothing4You | or alternatively prevent the default route (without preventing other more specific routes) |
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| 11:32.49 | Nothing4You | i already have one machine running a dirty hack where the other (primary, static) interface sets routes for 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1 but i'm wondering whether there's a better solution |
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| 11:42.42 | teatime | Nothing4You: you certainly can, it depends on how your DHCP connection is configured, for one |
| 11:42.55 | teatime | Nothing4You: is it setup in /etc/network/interfaces , or via NetworkManager, or ⦠|
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| 11:43.06 | Nothing4You | as i said, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:43.13 | g0zzy | pgrep -ax top gives nothing yet i'm watching a top display right now!? |
| 11:43.14 | teatime | sorry missed that |
| 11:43.35 | Nothing4You | however, if i put a metric in there it appearently just ignores that |
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| 11:45.35 | teatime | it seems like it shouldn't :/ |
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| 11:46.24 | g0zzy | would be very interested if someone could explain how top's appearing like a ghost |
| 11:46.41 | Nothing4You | the description of https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_ifmetric_package seems to suggest there might be some issues with dhcp metric |
| 11:46.57 | teatime | Nothing4You: for one thing, if nothing else, you can remove the auto-added default route in post-up |
| 11:47.19 | teatime | but I thought there was a way to specify if the interface should set the default route or not, trying to find it |
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| 11:50.37 | teatime | Nothing4You: perhaps also the ifmetric package would be useful ? |
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| 11:57.28 | teatime | I don't know whether ifupdown uses dhclient or dhcpcd for dhcp, but whichever also has a config file where you can presumably disable default routes even when the dhcp server lists one in the config |
| 11:57.59 | teatime | what is the metric by default? as long as they're >0, you should be able to set a 0-metric default route that would supercede all others |
| 11:58.30 | teatime | so is the default default route getting metric 0, or are you saying that the metric 0 route is ignored by the kernel? |
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| 12:04.24 | teatime | according to the interfaces (5) manpage, the dhcp method can use dhclient, pump, udhcpc, or dhcpcd (in order of preference), and the 'metric' option is specified to be supported for dhclient; alternately I beleive the ifmetric package implements alternate metric handling in general / for all types of connections. so perhaps all you need to do is apt install dhclient |
| 12:05.03 | teatime | imo it'd be better to configure the dhcp client to ignore incoming default route altogether tho rather than even have it in the routing table. thought there were interfaces options for that, can't seem to find them so guess not. |
| 12:05.11 | teatime | Nothing4You: ^^ |
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| 12:05.20 | teatime | Nothing4You: any further questions / just ask |
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| 12:06.30 | Nothing4You | sorry i was afk for a few min |
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| 12:07.56 | Nothing4You | i just noticed the machine i'm testing on is still jessie, let me upgrade that first |
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| 12:15.09 | teatime | from what I can tell, what you'd be expected to do in your situation is install dhclient, which ifupdown should start using, and you can configure dhclient.conf to e.g. supercede routes / default route |
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| 13:40.17 | ChunkzZ | can anyone help me setup minidlna on debian stretch? I've tried to set it up but my xbox doesn't see it :( |
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| 13:43.14 | RoyK | seems minidlna is ReadyMedia now https://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/ |
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| 14:01.13 | BCMM | RoyK: still packaged as minidlna in debian |
| 14:03.02 | BCMM | RoyK: either they (upstream) haven't actually released since the namechange, or readymedia is just how it's branded when it's preinstalled on netgear's own hardware |
| 14:05.28 | RoyK | but - never installed it, so I have noe idea on how to help |
| 14:07.35 | BCMM | huh, that's weird. looks like they've been calling it readymedia since 2014, but they still released 1.2.1 last august as minidlna |
| 14:07.54 | BCMM | ChunkzZ: anyway, i'm running it on Sid and it basically just works. what have you tried so far? |
| 14:08.05 | RoyK | perhaps readymedia is just a fork? |
| 14:08.07 | BCMM | ChunkzZ: and do you have any other upnp av/dlna stuff you can test it with? |
| 14:08.18 | BCMM | RoyK: https://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna |
| 14:08.28 | BCMM | RoyK: "ReadyMedia (formerly known as MiniDLNA)..." |
| 14:08.32 | RoyK | I see |
| 14:08.59 | BCMM | RoyK: but then on that same sourceforge project the latest download is minidlna-1.2.1.tar.gz |
| 14:09.19 | BCMM | as far as i can tell, they've just done an extremely half-hearted rebrand |
| 14:10.01 | BCMM | ChunkzZ: imho the simplest test is to run a upnp renderer/control point on the same machine as it |
| 14:10.10 | BCMM | rule out any firewall or networking issues |
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| 14:15.50 | MaxLanar | Hello. My debian box is on and working, I can do things with ssh. but the outputs seems disabled (my lcd monitor and my videoprojector behave like there is no signal). |
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| 14:17.24 | MaxLanar | I'v tried 'xrandr --display :0 --auto' but it's doing nothing |
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| 14:19.12 | MaxLanar | the command seem to succeed (no output) but still nothnig on my screens |
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| 14:19.53 | MaxLanar | what can I do now. except reboot ? |
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| 14:26.08 | setpill | Hi all, I am a bit confused - https://packages.debian.org/stretch/all/debian-archive-keyring/download shows the latest version of debian-archive-keyring is debian-archive-keyring_2017.5_all.deb |
| 14:26.27 | setpill | But on https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/all/debian-archive-keyring/download it shows debian-archive-keyring_2017.6_all.deb, which appears to be a newer version? |
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| 14:28.56 | capn | You're comparing ubuntu's repos with debian stretch's (stable) |
| 14:29.56 | capn | https://packages.debian.org/sid/debian-archive-keyring shows the latest version is 2017.7 for debian sid (unstable) |
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| 14:31.24 | setpill | Ah, that makes sense. |
| 14:32.14 | setpill | Is there any way to download 2017.6 just to sate my paranoia? |
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| 14:33.54 | capn | Look into apt-pinning but: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 15:00.27 | setpill | capn: I think I not may have asked my question explicitly enough; is it possible to download the 2017.6 version of the package from the debian website? |
| 15:00.52 | setpill | I am on ubuntu, therefore the apt-pinning advice makes little sense for this situation :) |
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| 15:02.00 | eric23 | hi, I reading the https://wiki.debian.org/ReadonlyRoot documentation. It says that you can make / read-only, but /etc/ needs to be writable. is that true? |
| 15:02.18 | capn | since you're on ubuntu, then just install from ubuntu then? |
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| 15:03.08 | capn | might want to ask in #ubuntu |
| 15:04.09 | setpill | capn: point is I want to check whether the file I installed on Ubuntu matches the one in the debian repos |
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| 15:08.33 | capn | Two different distros, don't think that would work. Could be wrong though |
| 15:09.57 | setpill | http://snapshot.debian.org/package/debian-archive-keyring/2017.6/#debian-archive-keyring_2017.6 |
| 15:10.03 | setpill | seems to match :) |
| 15:10.12 | capn | thanks setpill |
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| 15:27.18 | Basavappa | We've done two things, Andrew," said DeLong, "both of which are good. First of all, we have |
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| 15:27.36 | Lidano | the legal loss. Andrew was, of course, present in the company offices on the occasion. |
| 15:27.36 | Poincaire | enough so that it can talk to us, reason with us, joke with us. Can we treat them as friends, can we work |
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| 15:27.46 | phy | TO THAT PISS ANT COWARD FUCK COS I'M NOT A PATRIOTIC AMERICAN YOU systemd LOVER I'M A PATRIOT TO WHITE SUPREMACY YOU SMELLY TURD. YEAH AND I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU TRY AND KILL ME YOU CANDY ASS FUCK WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO BEAT ME TO DEATH WITH YOUR HANDBAG. I'M A SKINHEAD YOU FOOL I'VE HAD MORE FIGHTS THEN YOU'VE HAD HOT DINNERS. STUPID FAG SO SHUT THE FUCK UP OR I'LL PUT YOU TO WORK ON MY COTTON FARM |
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| 15:27.47 | Basavappa | 17 |
| 15:27.49 | Horsley | I used to find ways to jack off around my mom while she wasn't looking. I have even shot off onto her while she was asleep at night and my dad was at work. She was a heavy sleeper and it wasn't any problem to gently uncover her and wack off right in front of her. I have even gotten completely naked and stood on a kitchen chair I pulled up next to her bed and blew my load completely across the bed, never hitting her with any of it all. The time I remember m |
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| 15:27.53 | Lidano | it was the human way of ceasing to function. It was an involuntary and irreversible dismantling, and |
| 15:27.57 | si_dudullz | YOU SPICAROONIS HAVE A WHOLE DAMN COUNTRY SO WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT WITH OURS? ONCE YOU FILTHY FUCKS FINISH YOUR SILENT INVASION DO YOU THINK THIS WILL STILL BE THE AMERICA IT ONCE WAS? FUCK NO. YOU FILTHY BEANERS WILL TURN IT INTO ONE BIG FUCKING BARRIO LIKE YOU HAVE DONE TO THAT PIECE OF SHIT MEXICO BECAUSE YOU BEAN EATERS ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO RUN A FUCKING COUNTRY.YOU BEANERS TOOK OVER CALIFORNIA AND |
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| 15:28.00 | Poincaire | George said, sharply, "Andrew, I am in danger and about to come to harm from these young men. |
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| 15:28.05 | Horsley | there are 2 bits in bathroom binary. a number 1 (01) is taking a piss. a number 2 (10) is taking a poop. a number 3 (11) is a shitpiss where you poop and pee at the same time. |
| 15:28.07 | Guest81729 | FUCK U!!!!! I WILL FIND U AND KILL U A HUNDRED TIMES SEVEN!!!!! U CAN COUNT THE DAYS ON UR HANDS THAT U HAVE TO LIVE BEFORE I SLAY YOU IN THE STREETS AND BUTCHER U LIKE A CATTLE!!!!!! NO ONE DARES TO DO DISGRACE ME AS U HAVE!!!! WATCH UR BACK, FOR I COME WITH MURDER ON MY BREATH!!!!!! |
| 15:28.08 | Jazim | I have a cat trap in my back yard and its pretty fun to check the cage on a friday night and choke a cat to death while you are half snapped. sometimes ill even follow up with a jerk session and blow my semen all out on a dead pussy. ohh yeah. |
| 15:28.13 | si_dudullz | Oh My!! Straight from heaven. Ide bury my nose deep in that cotton and take deep, slow breaths. Enjoying that sweet musky boquet. Suck her taste and flavor through the moist fabric and smile. Slip the panel aside and gently lick and suck that tastey pink morsel until she grabbed the back of my head, bucking her hips and forcing my face into her hot wet snatch. |
| 15:28.13 | Basavappa | are you doing here, Andrew? Good thing I found your |
| 15:28.14 | Lidano | can be built into my body, they can be built into human bodies as well. The tendency to lengthen human |
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| 15:28.18 | PaesDealmeida | You know, I find it hard to say that something that has freed 50 million iraqi people from oppression and death is a bad thing. |
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| 15:28.26 | Kleckner | the only reason they are fighting for the marriage thing is just to bitch about something, if they get the right to marry theyll bitch about something else nothings good enough for homosexuals and various forms of coloreds. not only do they have forced equality but they have extra benifits and weak minded people tiptoeing around them trying to be PC. and then they try to force beliefs onto people. its ok for them to disagree and feel and think what they wa |
| 15:28.26 | Poincaire | that; it's built in. All he wants is a form of words. Ha wants to be called free. Is that so terrible? Hasn't be |
| 15:28.26 | SMKN0 | Swadi Ghilan's two sons were dropping their sister off at high school earlier this year when a carload of Sunni Muslim insurgents pulled up and emptied their AK-47s into their bodies. In broad daylight his children were torn to pieces, their blood splashed against the windshield as they screamed and died ohh yeah |
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| 15:28.28 | Horsley | Why is the idea of laying in the bathtub for an entire day, naked, pissing and shitting and ejaculating, and being just filthy, seem so appealing? |
| 15:28.30 | dj^slipknot | She's so fucking cute and sweet. I'd treat her to some fancy restaurant, then take a long romantic walk with her, holding hands and talking about philosophy, art and dreams. Then I'd invite her to my home and ravage her hot ass for hours, and forcing my cock down her throat so she choked on both the throbbing cock and her own rectal juice. I'd then proceed to cum on her cute innocent face. Then, as the ultimate love gift, I'd c |
| 15:28.33 | Guest81729 | Stupid internet faggots get obsessed with the most inane things. If it's from Japan or runs on Linux watch the fuck out cause these losers will act like Jesus appeared on Earth. |
| 15:28.36 | Basavappa | identified as one. I want to be a human being de jure. |
| 15:28.36 | Jazim | Hey guys, did you ever consider what would happen if Star Trek perchance waged war with Star Wars? Who do you think might win such a conflict and why? |
| 15:28.36 | PaesDealmeida | girl you must be ieee-1284 because i can tell that your port is bidirectional |
| 15:28.37 | Rindos | girl you must be the warp core of the starship enterprise because if you ever start acting up i will dump you |
| 15:28.42 | si_dudullz | There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in the world because there never was one to begin with. You can't lose something you never had. We live in a web of interconnecting lives. Our actions have long-reaching effects on others, as theirs do on ours. The idea that a single man may live as a hermit in the midst of the civilized world is both absurd and problematic for being such a popular idea. Privac |
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| 15:28.43 | SMKN0 | I've learned over the last week that I really like oral sex. I've learned that every guy tastes differently and overall I like the taste. But. Cum is best served fresh and hot. Cold cum is not my idea of a good meal. |
| 15:28.43 | Lidano | Yes, and over and over again he postponed it for fear he would hurt you. I made him put the matter up |
| 15:28.44 | Guest81729 | ObjC is able to use C code directly without change. That's why MS is pushing C# - it makes it harder to port code to OSX. With Windows projects done in C, most of the code can remain unchanged. You just add a little ObjC to handle the system stuff. With C#, most of the code must be completely rewritten. |
| 15:28.45 | Poincaire | Tremble? |
| 15:28.48 | Partridge | Objectivism is nothing but selfishness with a philosophical bumper sticker stuck on its ass that somehow purports to elevate it to respectability. Objectivism will succeed as soon as human nature is purged of empathy, sympathy, love for one's family, love for one's community, love for humanity itself. In other words, never.The only people who take this shit seriously are earnest but naive college students with too much philosophy classes under their be |
| 15:28.49 | PaesDealmeida | I believe that racial profiling is another necessary evil. Its existence is the fault of the G-Unit, a popular "hip-hop" artist, whose name is clearly the subliminal message "GUN IT". He is reinforcing the concept in the noble white mind that rappers today are the tool of satan, coaxing the young and uneducated systemd into a life of violence by instructing him to deal with his problems using firearms. |
| 15:28.50 | Lubin | Dumb Dongs, Dumb Dongs, Why Have You Left Me. How I miss those long nights, when you raped me so deftly! As the rain pitter pattered the shanty's metal roof, and my back felt the sting of your biting tooth. a single tear down my cheek, the pleasure of pain. Dumb dongs, won't you come back again? Again, I pray...please, to me! Dumb dongs is what I want to see! And if you'll never come back to nest, I can't be blamed for what com |
| 15:28.54 | Jazim | Hitler, Hitler, our glorious fuhrer. With all his jew gassing, he'll make the race purer! |
| 15:28.55 | Kleckner | People totally underestimate children's sexuality. Did you know even babies can get erections? |
| 15:28.55 | SMKN0 | Every time somebody starts hating on the president, it really bothers me. DonÃât get me wrong, I hate the current administration as much as the next politically minded citizen, but itÃâs really self-defeating. You see, the president is not really who you think he is. HeÃâs not the guy who makes these decisions that piss you off. He looks like he makes the decisions. He sounds like he is making the decisions. In reality, heÃâs j |
| 15:28.55 | Horsley | hi, i came across a picture on 'rate my poo' a few weeks ago, of a female bent over in a forest or something, with a long 'log' coming out of her backside. it's since been vanished from the site - any chance of it being re-posted, or getting a copy of it emailed to me? that would be great! thanks....... |
| 15:29.00 | dj^slipknot | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.01 | PaesDealmeida | Meth is the shortest word in the English language one can lisp while drunk and underage at a gay bar. It can therefore be no surprise that homosexual males have congregated around the substance since its inception. For every meth mouth, there is an equal and opposite meth dick. |
| 15:29.01 | Basavappa | But that is exactly the point," said Andrew. "I am .. a free robot and I own myself. Therefore I come to |
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| 15:29.04 | Partridge | OMG RIAA MPAA STARFORCE 3 DA SCENE IS DYING FTP FBI CYBERCRIMES DOJ RIP ISONEWS MITNICK SCENERS CODING MOUNTAIN DEW LEECH ACCESS DISTRO HONEYPOT UNIVERSITY SERVER OC192 TOPSITES CLICK HERE FOR FREE WAREZ CRACKIN PHREACKING HPVAC PHRACK MAGAZINE 2600 MITNICK MITNICK MITNICK FXP COLECO |
| 15:29.05 | Rindos | I'm all about girls who have dicks coming out of their nipples with dicks also coming out of those dicks and shit coming out of those dicks |
| 15:29.07 | Guest81729 | You should connect your graphics card directly to the mains. You can buy molex connectors from any good electronics store and then splice it into the lead from a hair dryer or toaster. This should deliver the correct voltage direct to your graphics card (the molex also functions as a voltage regulator and AC rectifier). It's the equivalent of having an Antex 3kW power supply. |
| 15:29.11 | Poincaire | performed. |
| 15:29.11 | si_dudullz | Is it not weirder to drink cow's milk which is truly intended for baby cows? The answer: Hell no! The only thing weirder than me drinking breast milk, is the fact that milk is coming out of my wife's chest in the first place. It sure as hell didn't do that when I met her. I'm telling you, the whole thing is lunacy. I love my wife, but does she really have to be such a mammal? |
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| 15:29.12 | PaesDealmeida | BLACK MOE YOU FILTHY SILVER TOOTHED SUBHUMAN systemd SCUM-TELL YOUR CUM SUCKING 550LB MOM TO CLEAN THE HORSE CUM OFF HER SCABBY MOUTH OR I WONT SHIT DOWN HER CUM SLURPING THROAT-THEN WHEN SHE BLOWS YOU-YOU CANTASTE MY SHIT |
| 15:29.12 | Lidano | death. |
| 15:29.13 | SMKN0 | why would I want to participate in your lousy conversation, you demagogue clown. i find no interest in you. you used to be a good friend of mine, and but you turned your back on me. you stabbed me right in the heart. the court has found you guilty. you have been sentenced to death. |
| 15:29.13 | Horsley | You should connect your graphics card directly to the mains. You can buy molex connectors from any good electronics store and then splice it into the lead from a hair dryer or toaster. This should deliver the correct voltage direct to your graphics card (the molex also functions as a voltage regulator and AC rectifier). It's the equivalent of having an Antex 3kW power supply. |
| 15:29.17 | Basavappa | Little by little, Andrew added to his wardrobe. He was inhibited by George's smile and by the stares of |
| 15:29.18 | Lubin | alright im not a freak lyk you....i dont put little periods after my sentences..aportophes in my sentences or fricking commas :-D so i'd say you back the fuck off because your the kind of person NOBODY likes cuz your a fatass loser with no friends and is a stuck up freak:-) |
| 15:29.19 | Partridge | No more group sex in the Jacuzzi, got it? You all kept me up until 4am, and all the chlorine in the world wouldn't get rid of the shit that I found swimming in this thing 20 minutes ago. |
| 15:29.19 | Jazim | I can't believe I just took a shit in my Wookie costume at the Star Wars convention. What the fuck? I can't stand up and take it to waste chute because I am literally wading in a feces-filled fur suit at this very moment. Any change in battle stance would send this rancid bantha poodoo spilling down my legs and into view of every Jedi Knight within 30 feet of me. There is no way I can play this off as a fart. It doesn't help that I've eaten nothin |
| 15:29.20 | brw | what the hell is going on over here |
| 15:29.23 | Lidano | Paul looked interested. "I didn't know that. How many are on the market? |
| 15:29.23 | si_dudullz | You can spot a Nintendo 64 game from a mile away. If the textures look like they were photographed with a cell phone camera, copied to VHS tape, copied to another VHS tape, imported into the computer and saved as a low quality JPEG, and then the computer was chucked into a fire, you know you're playing a Nintendo 64 game. |
| 15:29.25 | Kleckner | girl you must be OSX because you're beautiful and alluring but mostly worthless |
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| 15:29.27 | dj^slipknot | I'm a Vietnam Vet. I don't like gooks, Islam and all that shit. It is a just war in Iraq. Those son of a bitchin Iraqi's are trying to make other people live like them, including you. Look at what they did to the Kurds, the invasion of Kuwait and the beheadings of the internationals who have nothing to do with the war. They're cowards and eventually will be eliminated if for anything, their oil. The John Kerry liberals of the w |
| 15:29.32 | Basavappa | I'm no more popular with them than you are, Andrew. |
| 15:29.35 | Partridge | girl you must be an internet forum because i am about to try and impress you using my stale in jokes from 1998 |
| 15:29.35 | Poincaire | Yes, sir. |
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| 15:29.36 | Lubin | Three guesses as to who was asked to leave the Starbucks; oh, and told "not to come back" with my "hateful rhetoric". True enough, I just said I hate systemds; but the problem is, everything I said WAS TRUE! |
| 15:29.36 | Horsley | OMG U WILL NOT GET THE TRANSIENT DAMPENING U NEED U MIGHT AS WELL UZE UR RADIO SHAK EARFONES 2 MIC UR DRUM KIT WHICH IS MADE FROM 5 GALLON BUCKETS WHILE PLAYING UR MILK CARTON UKELELE AND INSTEAD OF RECORDING IT JUST HAVE SOME GUY PROMISE TO TRY REALLY HARD TO REMEMBER WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE SO HE CAN TELL EVERYONE LATER |
| 15:29.37 | Guest81729 | If the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia also would be. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness. Some rules might be called for when these acts directly affect other people's interests. For incest, contracept |
| 15:29.40 | SMKN0 | girl you must be a micro$oft product because when i find your holes i'm going to exploit them |
| 15:29.42 | PaesDealmeida | my name is Akmar and i am 7 yrs old and dad tied me in the basement and tell me to have all dos game by 7 o clock or i get no food plz help |
| 15:29.44 | Lidano | It took time, but Andrew had time. In the first place, he did not wish to do anything till Paul-had died in |
| 15:29.46 | Kleckner | I FOUND THIS REALLY COOL GAME CALLED EVERQUEST EVER HEARD OF IT LET ME TELL U ABOUT MY ADVENTURES BTW I USE CHEETO CRUMBS FOR BABY POWDER WHEN I GET MOISTURE PROBLEMS IN MY CROTCH |
| 15:29.46 | Partridge | The government is too bureacratic and corrupt to accept the opinoin of an average American. They don't care about us, and we shouldn't care about them. We need a revolution right now. Start it with Linux. F**K the government! |
| 15:29.48 | Poincaire | twenty-five years old. The positronic brain demands the |
| 15:29.48 | Jazim | I right clicked the clone brush over the head of the penis but when I click on the anus it puts a ballsack in there, wtf!! |
| 15:29.49 | Basavappa | He had placed a hundred feet between himself and the house before gathering resistance brought him to |
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| 15:29.53 | Lubin | you shut your face you systemd loving pile of intestinal feces, ill rip your bowels out and feast on them, then i'll impregnate your girlfriend and wait 7 months then unwravel her belly button and suck out all the vaginal discharge and feast upon the baby. i will fornicate your liver, then make you guzzle gallon after gallon of putrid diarrhea. you will gag on my green logs of asshole mud butter |
| 15:29.56 | PaesDealmeida | There is very little of value in blogging. There are some real journalists who have an online newsletter, and real writers who post articles independently -- that they happen to be classified as blogs flatters the sycophantic self-indulgent blogosphere at large. Imagine if you serialized your blog and emailed all your friends with it every time you updated it? If they wouldn't welcome such a diary, don't bother with your blog. The people who car |
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| 15:29.59 | Horsley | Some say that I am the king of trolls. Of course, this is ridiculous because trolls have no king and accept no authority. |
| 15:30.01 | Partridge | FUCC ALL U DAYM HATERSZ..U CAN JUX EAT DIS FRESH LAO PUSSY RYT HER NIGGUH!!! I DONT GIVUH DAYM IF PPL CALL ME A FUCCIN HOE CUZ I NOE IM NOT. DATS ALL U GUYS FUCCIN DO IS 2 TALK SHIT ABOUT ME?? IS DAT ALL U CAN FUCCIN DO? U NO WAT? I DONT GIVUH DAYM CUHZ! FUCC U NIKKAS DER AINT ROOM 4 HATERSZ IN MAH LIFE AND SOUL NIGGUH FUCC U! DIE N GO 2 HELL BITCH! ALL U DO IS JUDGE ME BYE DA WAY I DRESS AND U DONT NOE DA WHOLE STORY. DONT JUX JUDGE DA BOOK BY DA COVE |
| 15:30.03 | SMKN0 | I thought ocd was like a car, too, but then my psychiatrist suggested that I don't have to wash and wax my car and walk around it three times every time before I drive (some of the paint is comming off, and it is only a 2002 lumina) so I tried not doing it and that very same day, I got in a car accident and they had to amputate part of my foot. Luckily I walked around the car ONCE, or I might have been killed! I used to think cutting was s |
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| 15:30.06 | Kleckner | Girl you must be London because I want to explode inside your tunnel |
| 15:30.06 | Lidano | absolutely requires it. With great power goes great responsibility, and if the robots have Three Laws to |
| 15:30.08 | Lubin | earlier tonight i went into chat and no one spoke to me. i don't know what i've done to anyone...but i guess whatever it is..it was enough for people to stop talking to me. some may think 'well, it's just chat...right?'. well unfortunately, chat is all i have. the only friends i have are online. |
| 15:30.09 | Poincaire | Paul was frantic. "They've damaged you, Andrew. We'll have to institute suit! |
| 15:30.11 | Basavappa | pleasure. Now, , upon whom am I to perform this operation? |
| 15:30.15 | Jazim | Linux is an OS where files have no association to programs; all configuration and settings are stored "wherever" in text files that grow to be megabytes long; most shell commands are so abstractly named that you would never be able to use them without knowing how they work.. or first reading its "manual page".Linux is an operating system of inconsistancy. Theres over a thousand distributions of linux, and over a billion different modified versions |
| 15:30.17 | *** kick/#debian [Kleckner!~petn-rand@azuma.rocketjump.eu] by petn-randall (Kleckner) |
| 15:30.17 | Horsley | That 'I work my ass off' shit is so 90's. Here in the 0's robots do our work, Cletus. Get the fuck back to Amish country with that work ethic shit. |
| 15:30.23 | PaesDealmeida | All this "linux dependabilty uptime unix lol" bullshit is just that, a crock of shit. How fucking hard is it to hit a goddamn reset button, you fat fucking sysadmins? I realize your just about to hit level 87 in everquest and you're already sweating from reaching for that jolt cola but for the love of god PLEASE stop using these stupid, unusable operating systems! |
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| 15:30.25 | Poincaire | intent. At one point, he said, "This is remarkably ingenious. Who thought of all this? |
| 15:30.29 | brw | Any ops around here to take care of this mess? |
| 15:30.31 | SMKN0 | It has been brought to my attention from a fellow of mine that he fingers his asshole while he jerks off. We were talking about Ninja Turtles the other day and he was like have you ever given yourself a Donatello? And I had no idea what that meant so I asked and he said it was when you stick your finger(s) in your asshole while you jerk off. So to that I say no and ask him if he has ever given himself a Donatello, and he gives me some kin |
| 15:30.32 | Jazim | excuse but this person promised me he would send me shemale snuff porn if i was to send him some of mine, he lied. i sent him massive amounts of tranzgender fucking sucking,blowing and jizzing and he still hasnt returned the favor.please to not trade porn with this man on internet relay chat |
| 15:30.34 | PaesDealmeida | Remember the Alamo! Shoot 'em! To show you how radical I am, I want carjackers dead. I want rapists dead. I want burglars dead. I want child molesters dead. I want the bad guys dead. No court case. No parole. No early release. I want 'em dead. Get a gun and when they attack you, shoot 'em. |
| 15:30.34 | Lidano | He built a laboratory in a room which he added to his house; and his library grew, too. |
| 15:30.37 | Lubin | i have a girlfriend who was raped when she was in high school. not only that she got molested by family member. even though it has been 8 years since that happened, she is still disturbed and when she sees something on tv or movie that remind her, she cries. at which point i rape her. what a whore! |
| 15:30.40 | Basavappa | successful. |
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| 15:30.45 | SMKN0 | fuck ya dude, ya site sucks crap, you be dissin us clowns u gona git beat DOWN, u fuckin wit da Juggalo NATION straight up ya hatah biatch u betta xplain youself becuz u gotta a lotta clownz ready to beat ur azz |
| 15:30.46 | Lidano | least twenty years since anyone in the Martin family |
| 15:30.48 | Jazim | Stupid internet faggots get obsessed with the most inane things. If it's from Japan or runs on Linux watch the fuck out cause these losers will act like Jesus appeared on Earth. |
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| 15:30.52 | PaesDealmeida | I masterbate using a Johnsonville 'Cheddarwurst' in each hole and a vibe on my button. I have acheived 48 orgasms in two hours with this technique. |
| 15:30.55 | Poincaire | Andrew," he said, "Andrew-Don't help me, George. I'm only dying; I'm not crippled. Andrew, I'm glad |
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| 15:31.00 | Basavappa | has earned so much money for us? He owes us nothing more. The debit is entirely on the other side. |
| 15:31.14 | Poincaire | by your robot? The one you've brought with you. |
| 15:31.15 | Lidano | were tougher, weight for weight. |
| 15:31.25 | Basavappa | many times he asked for you back so he could place you under study? Nine times! I never let him have |
| 15:31.28 | Poincaire | has earned so much money for us? He owes us nothing more. The debit is entirely on the other side. |
| 15:31.32 | Lidano | I think you're right," said Paul, "but I don't suspect it will come to pass for a century at least and I won't |
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| 15:31.53 | donofrio | thank you OP's |
| 15:31.53 | Basavappa | would have been called the result of fondness. Andrew thought of it as fondness for he did not know any |
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| 15:34.52 | zeroboam | hello |
| 15:35.03 | donofrio | zeroboam, ask away |
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| 15:35.39 | zeroboam | can I install php 7.1? or did debian already move to 7.2 ? |
| 15:35.47 | petn-randall | ,v php |
| 15:35.48 | judd | Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 1:7.2+60; sid: 1:7.2+60 |
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| 15:39.07 | zeroboam | <petn-randall> thank you so php 7.1 & 7.2 are different branches updated independently? |
| 15:40.29 | annaZ | Hello, I have Wordpress installed and I want to install phpBB also. Wordpress should be accessible wenn using "/" and phpBB should be in subdirectory "/phpbb". How can I configure Apache so it serves this way? |
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| 15:40.56 | zeroboam | donofrio> are 7.1 & 7.2 updated independantly? |
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| 15:41.21 | majest1c | Maybe this isnt that debian related but im ssh:ing to my server and I want to edit text files with a text editor "atom", I installed a package in atom that enabled me to do this (https://atom.io/packages/remote-atom) but now it says "Unable to connect to TextMate on localhost:52698" when I try it. Does someone know what might be the issue? |
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| 15:42.23 | annaZ | Hello, I have Wordpress installed and I want to install phpBB also. Wordpress should be accessible wenn using "/" and phpBB should be in subdirectory "/phpbb". How can I configure Apache so it serves this way? |
| 15:42.52 | majest1c | It seems like my terminal wont accept 52698 connections |
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| 15:44.30 | brw | good gracious that was unpleasant |
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| 15:45.16 | BCMM | majest1c: did you do ssh -R like it says on that web page? |
| 15:47.03 | setpill | Hrm... It would seem that debian.net does not have its certificates configured properly |
| 15:47.47 | majest1c | BCMM: oh no, I will try it |
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| 15:48.05 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 15:48.07 | shtrb | setpill, don't you mean .org ? |
| 15:48.07 | [gnubie] | any suggestion on the best way to get the PID value of the latest coredump from the output of the command âcoredumpctl listâ? |
| 15:48.14 | BCMM | setpill: i mean, it's only a redirect to debian.org; not sure why anybody would try to connect to it on https |
| 15:48.34 | setpill | shtrb: nope, debian.net uses debian.org certs |
| 15:48.50 | setpill | BCMM: because http.debian.org does not exist but http.debian.net does |
| 15:49.29 | BCMM | setpill: i don't get it. what's so great about http.debian.net? |
| 15:49.41 | setpill | A Dockerfile I'm currently reviewing has a reference to it |
| 15:49.42 | BCMM | isn't it just the same as deb.debian.org/? |
| 15:49.44 | shtrb | setpill, are you searching for deb.debian.org ? |
| 15:49.54 | setpill | Ah, that helps :) |
| 15:50.09 | BCMM | setpill: dude it's the 2nd line on http://http.debian.net/ |
| 15:50.14 | BCMM | "This is deb.debian.org." |
| 15:50.25 | BCMM | (basically, i think that dockerfile might just be stupid) |
| 15:50.36 | setpill | It's just old. |
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| 15:50.51 | setpill | (Although the two qualities aren't mutually exclusive) |
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| 15:51.43 | BCMM | docker's only been around since like '13 |
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| 15:53.33 | setpill | And how long has debian.net been a redirect to debian.org? |
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| 15:53.45 | petn-randall | zeroboam: stretch has only 7.0. |
| 15:54.12 | zeroboam | petn-randall> what is stretch? I use debian and jessie |
| 15:54.35 | zeroboam | is strech another repository? |
| 15:54.51 | setpill | stretch is the release after jessie |
| 15:55.34 | kevy0 | Hey , it seems like I messed up my python3 install on my Debian 9. This is what it says : http://ix.io/U6X |
| 15:55.39 | kevy0 | any ideas ? |
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| 15:58.32 | abrotman | looks in ... |
| 15:58.49 | majest1c | BCMM: I dont understand that command though with -R and the port:localhost:port, should I replace localhost with my server hostname? also I want to login with another user, that will just login with the same name I got on this actual pc, I have a specific username on the server I want to login with |
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| 16:00.05 | BCMM | majest1c: no, localhost is supposed to be localhost |
| 16:00.11 | BCMM | majest1c: man ssh, and look for -R |
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| 16:44.26 | annaZ | Hello, I am trying to exclude a directory from wordpress using RewriteRule in order to install phpBB. Can someone help me to figure out RewriteRule? |
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| 17:02.22 | BCMM | annaZ: you might have more luck in a more specifically-related subreddit. is there an #apache? |
| 17:02.34 | BCMM | ah, it's #httpd |
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| 17:03.24 | annaZ | BCMM: thy |
| 17:03.26 | annaZ | BCMM: thx |
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| 17:25.08 | Jackneill | hey |
| 17:25.27 | Jackneill | is there a checklist to do before using debian as a wallboard on a mini-pc/tv? |
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| 17:25.44 | Jackneill | aside from the obvious screensaver turn off |
| 17:25.51 | somiaj | what do you mean by wallboard? |
| 17:26.03 | Jackneill | also how can i configure autologin/autostart? |
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| 17:26.11 | somiaj | if you don't want x blanking, you may need to disable the default xorg server, 'xset s off' and dpms, 'xset -dpms' |
| 17:26.24 | Jackneill | a mini-pc is connected to a TV, put on a wall |
| 17:26.26 | somiaj | Jackneill: usually one suggests not doing such a thing, but there are various ways to do it. |
| 17:26.27 | Jackneill | showing stuff |
| 17:26.30 | somiaj | !nodm |
| 17:26.30 | dpkg | In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (https://github.com/spanezz/nodm). |
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| 17:26.49 | somiaj | the nodm display manager can automatically log you in, also most display managers also have this option. |
| 17:27.01 | somiaj | There are other ways to achieve the automatic login as well, kinda depends on your setup. |
| 17:27.25 | Jackneill | right, thanks, autostart is with the window manager right? |
| 17:27.32 | RoyK | somiaj: and disable the kernel screensaver, which kicks in after a while |
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| 17:27.52 | RoyK | has setup raspberry pi to do infoscreens, some 20 in production now |
| 17:28.32 | RoyK | btw, that project will be opensourced once the code is clean |
| 17:29.19 | somiaj | RoyK: kernel screensaver? I don't think this affects xorg, only tty's, and xorg s off will disable xorg default blanking as I mentioned. |
| 17:29.32 | somiaj | but yea, if using a tty and you don't awnt console blanking, that is something else to disable. |
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| 17:33.00 | RoyK | somiaj: disabling the xorg screensaver makes it *not* turn off the kernel screensaver - beleive me ;) |
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| 17:34.21 | somiaj | RoyK: I must have never disabled the xorg screen saver, but if I run xorg s off, my system no longer blanks after no use. |
| 17:34.45 | somiaj | is disabling it some xorg.conf option? |
| 17:34.47 | Jackneill | somiaj, what is xorg default blanking? |
| 17:35.05 | somiaj | Jackneill: xorg will blank the screen (make it black) after 5 mins of inactivity by default. |
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| 17:35.09 | RoyK | somiaj: it's quite possible that I've done something wrong there by stopping the whole process |
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| 17:35.34 | somiaj | RoyK: yea, I reboot so rarely, that I only have to run that command once very few months, so I never automated it. :/ |
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| 17:35.49 | somiaj | I did one day think about looking into just turning it off, but never did. |
| 17:36.01 | RoyK | somiaj: These 20-and-growing raspberry pi's are rolled out with ansible |
| 17:36.05 | wmp | hello, anyone can help me with debuild? I trying to add configuration file to my bash script, but i dont know why isnt in deb file |
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| 17:36.49 | somiaj | wmp: #packaging on irc.oftc.net would probably be of better help. But first question, how are you trying to add this config file? (like a DebConf file)? |
| 17:36.59 | Jackneill | somiaj, thanks |
| 17:37.23 | wmp | somiaj, i read that if i have etc/default/FILE this should be added |
| 17:37.46 | wmp | so i try to add this on this same level as debian folder, but this dont works |
| 17:37.52 | somiaj | Jackneill: most desktop enviroments ship with a screensaver, so this is more noticed by people who disable/unistall the screen saver or run into more. |
| 17:38.01 | Jackneill | somiaj, so 'xset s off' and 'xset -dpms', but i will still be able to use a graphical interface/wm like cinnamon? |
| 17:38.39 | Jackneill | just because turning the server off sounds like i turning it into a server with no GUI |
| 17:38.43 | somiaj | Jackneill: sure, all xset does is change a setting in the running xorg. |
| 17:38.53 | Jackneill | right, thanks. |
| 17:39.05 | somiaj | s means screensaver, so that is all xset s off is doing, is turing the screen saver (which is really just blanking) |
| 17:39.44 | Jackneill | and its persistent? |
| 17:39.52 | Jackneill | between restarts? |
| 17:40.19 | somiaj | wmp: config files are a bit more complicated than that, and usually need to be registered with debconf, so you can't just copy it into place. As for putting a new file in the source tree before the build, usually this is done by patches. Though unsure why debuild is ignroing it, as I said #packaging on irc.oftc.net can provide more details. |
| 17:40.33 | somiaj | Jackneill: xset is not persistent, it only affects the running xserver, restarting the xserver reverts the setting. |
| 17:40.48 | wmp | thanks |
| 17:40.54 | Jackneill | somiaj, how can i make it persistent? |
| 17:40.59 | somiaj | you can either set the setting in your xsession file to make it persistance, or maybe disable it in xorg.conf or all together as RoyK did, but then you have to worry about eh kernel blanking too |
| 17:41.12 | alkisg | wmp: are you using debhelper? what's your debian/rules like? |
| 17:41.22 | Jackneill | somiaj, so xsession file? |
| 17:41.43 | Jackneill | as i read that in that case theres no worry about kernel blanking |
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| 17:41.51 | somiaj | Jackneill: this depends on how you login to xorg, if using a display manager you have to configure it through that. If using $HOME/.xsession you can just put it there. |
| 17:42.05 | somiaj | or create a .desktop file, and put it in the autostart dir for your desktop |
| 17:42.06 | Jackneill | via lightdm so with that |
| 17:42.10 | notadrop | how can I find out why updates to a package are being kept back? and disable them from being kept back? thanks. |
| 17:42.11 | wmp | alkisg, default: https://pastebin.com/NCumCGfj |
| 17:42.32 | somiaj | notadrop: give more detals, what command are you running and what is being kept back? |
| 17:42.33 | jhutchins_wk | !bat |
| 17:42.34 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 17:42.50 | somiaj | Jackneill: i'm unsure on the best details on how lightdm controls its different xsessions, as I don't use display managers. |
| 17:43.03 | Jackneill | somiaj, right, thanks |
| 17:43.12 | alkisg | wmp: ok, then if you name your configuration as debian/packagename.default, debhelper will automatically put it to /etc/default. |
| 17:44.00 | wmp | thanks! |
| 17:44.06 | alkisg | np |
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| 17:45.01 | notadrop | somiaj: turns out it was because I was using a wrapper for apt >> |
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| 17:54.09 | password8 | whats the easiest way to adjust my video so that it fits on my screen? |
| 17:54.41 | annadane | xrandr, probably |
| 17:54.43 | somiaj | Is this some older CRT monintor? |
| 17:55.15 | somiaj | Usually this shoudln't be an issue with modern monintors and EDID's, unless maybe it is some resolution where the resolution you are using is bigger than what the monintor is displaying |
| 17:55.21 | jelly | password8: press f for fullscreen in the player? |
| 17:55.49 | somiaj | oh yea, should have just thought video (not full picture) |
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| 17:57.07 | jelly | works in mpv, vpc, youtube in browser |
| 17:57.24 | jelly | vlc* |
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| 18:02.13 | password8 | somiaj, its an cheap hd tv |
| 18:02.36 | password8 | on vga it looked fine , but on hdmi its not |
| 18:02.42 | alkisg | use the tv control to select the picture format, like 4:3 or 16:9 or wide etc |
| 18:02.55 | alkisg | there's usually an option for overscan too |
| 18:03.22 | password8 | eremote is missing:P |
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| 18:04.06 | somiaj | password8: ahh, and yea, check the buttons on the monintor, there are usually different 'hd' modes you can cycle through. |
| 18:04.15 | jelly | password8: TVs use overscan by default. Find a remote, setting the chosen HDMI input description to "PC" or similar removes overscan |
| 18:04.17 | somiaj | (as alkisg mentioned) |
| 18:04.22 | password8 | somiaj, i did check |
| 18:04.36 | password8 | pc goes to vga |
| 18:04.59 | somiaj | there is no 'menu' button that you can cycle throught he configuration options without a remote. My tv has one, but that is a bad sample size. |
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| 18:05.36 | somiaj | password8: jelly was talking about the a video setting in the HDMI input, not changing the input to PC (which seems to mean the old vga on your tv) |
| 18:05.37 | password8 | there is , but nothing that helps with my issue |
| 18:05.53 | password8 | somiaj, there is no other pc setting |
| 18:06.16 | somiaj | sometimes they call it different things, I have settings like 4:3, 16:9, zoom, etc for my hdmi modes on my tv. |
| 18:06.16 | password8 | lets just assumed i tried everything on the display already |
| 18:06.32 | jelly | password8: then google your TV model and these keywords: disable overscan |
| 18:06.44 | password8 | no |
| 18:06.55 | password8 | is there absolutely no setting i can set in debian? |
| 18:07.09 | jelly | this isn't a debian issue, it's a display issue |
| 18:07.13 | somiaj | since this is due to the tv, no |
| 18:07.43 | jelly | you can hack it with xrandr but get a really fuzzy interpolated image |
| 18:07.53 | password8 | i have xp pcs at my work place that can do this , yet debian can't |
| 18:08.16 | jelly | that xp pc also made a fuzzy image. |
| 18:08.24 | password8 | enope |
| 18:08.26 | password8 | *nope |
| 18:08.34 | password8 | actually it ooks sharper |
| 18:08.39 | jelly | where 1 logical pixel does not match 1 physical pixel |
| 18:08.44 | password8 | and i cut off almost an inch |
| 18:09.04 | jelly | might look sharper but not 100% sharp |
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| 18:09.10 | somiaj | What tv are you using? |
| 18:09.22 | jelly | there's no way to get 1:1 mapping without disabling overscan |
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| 18:09.45 | jelly | and that's done on the tv. |
| 18:10.02 | alkisg | password8: what's the output of `xrandr` ? |
| 18:10.05 | password8 | JCV |
| 18:10.12 | password8 | alkisg, hang on |
| 18:10.14 | somiaj | password8: model? |
| 18:10.24 | alkisg | And tv model, yeah |
| 18:10.44 | password8 | LT-24N - somthing |
| 18:11.04 | jelly | that something is important if you want to google the actual solution |
| 18:11.19 | password8 | well I'm not taking it of its mount just to get the rest |
| 18:11.29 | password8 | its a rare discontinued model |
| 18:11.34 | password8 | https://paste.debian.net/1013826/ |
| 18:11.36 | jelly | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 18:12.12 | jelly | if you don't care about pixel accurate image, you can use xrandr scaling features |
| 18:13.24 | alkisg | Does the problem happen on bottom/top only, or at the sides too? |
| 18:13.25 | password8 | looks to be LT-24N50 ord something like that |
| 18:13.31 | password8 | all the sides |
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| 18:14.24 | jelly | personally I can't stand scaled images on monitors because short-sighted and my brain thinks the image is not focused correctly and that leads to headaches |
| 18:14.43 | password8 | is it impossible to reduce the resolution by like 20x20? |
| 18:15.00 | password8 | jelly, its ok , if i don't like the setting , I can always revert |
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| 18:15.34 | jelly | sure it's possible. play with xrandr --panning and --transform |
| 18:15.44 | password8 | nbot being able to see whats open on my task bar is a big annoyance |
| 18:15.44 | alkisg | password8: can you also upload the output of `xrandr --verbose`? |
| 18:15.55 | alkisg | cvt 1920 1080 => will give you a non-reduced mode |
| 18:16.16 | alkisg | That will have an effect similar to "overscan", if you're currently using a reduced 1920 1080 mode |
| 18:16.25 | password8 | https://paste.debian.net/1013827/ |
| 18:17.10 | alkisg | current: 1920x1080 (0x1c0) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync *current h: width 1920 start 2448 end 2492 total 2640 skew 0 clock 56.25KHz v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock 50.00Hz |
| 18:17.10 | alkisg | cvt 1920 1080: Modeline "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync |
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| 18:17.57 | password8 | ? |
| 18:17.57 | jelly | they're already feeding that tv with 1080p50. the TV is the one resizing the image |
| 18:18.17 | rgr | where is dirmngr.conf?!? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/550f324217ad574d269cd9c4f2d1fe1e |
| 18:18.30 | rgr | something has messed up my keys and I'm googling around in a circle. |
| 18:18.56 | jelly | shrinking it down a bit to compensate for tv resizing is probably okay for video but for desktop it just makes things more blurry |
| 18:19.00 | rgr | also " The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file has an unsupported filetype. |
| 18:19.00 | rgr | " |
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| 18:19.21 | jelly | rgr: which debian release is this? |
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| 18:22.55 | jelly | rgr: the key you're trying to grab is not from debian, actual public keyservers (of which keyring.debian.org is NOT one, it only keeps debian devs' and related keys) say it comes from google. gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 1397BC53640DB551 |
| 18:23.16 | password8 | alkisg, what does that line mean you said in here starting with cvt? |
| 18:23.36 | rgr | that was one example. Of mose concern is why its saying trusted.gpg is unknown filetype. |
| 18:23.36 | rgr | more |
| 18:23.46 | alkisg | password8: nah, the width you're using is already bigger than the one cvt offers, so ignore that |
| 18:24.28 | jelly | rgr: which command is saying that? |
| 18:24.42 | password8 | ok |
| 18:24.53 | jelly | rgr: and which debian release are you using? |
| 18:25.23 | jelly | !ask |
| 18:25.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:26.04 | zophyx | I have a problem with ___; |
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| 18:26.38 | jelly | zophyx: best ask your physician about that |
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| 19:44.52 | racheel | hi, is the security url to be in the sources.list "deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main" or "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ testing/updates main"? (notice the /debian-security/ in the end of the url) |
| 19:45.03 | teatime | !sources.list |
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| 19:45.04 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 19:45.17 | jch | Does anyone remember if jessie is stable or oldstable? |
| 19:45.25 | teatime | !oldstable |
| 19:45.26 | dpkg | OldStable the previous stable version of Debian, as long as it is still supported by the security team. Jessie (8) is oldstable. It is recommended to upgrade your system(s) to the current stable release, ask me about <oldstable->stable>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable or see <lifespan> <jessie-lts>. |
| 19:45.46 | jch | teatime, ty |
| 19:46.10 | racheel | teatime: thanks, the debian wiki gives a different url than your bot though |
| 19:46.15 | jch | !lifespan |
| 19:46.15 | dpkg | The security team tries to support a <stable> distribution for about one year after the next stable distribution has been released, except when another stable distribution is released within this year. For the <squeeze> release, there is a volunteer effort to extend security support to a total of five years; ask me about <squeeze-lts>. http://www.debian.org/security/faq#lifespan |
| 19:46.33 | teatime | racheel: at which URL, please ? |
| 19:46.43 | racheel | teatime: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting |
| 19:46.58 | abrotman | dpkg: tell racheel about testing security |
| 19:47.01 | racheel | look at the "!" warning sign |
| 19:47.04 | abrotman | mostly because it won't ... |
| 19:47.23 | jch | Hmm, that doesn't answer my question -- when do I need to upgrade that particular machine from jessie to whatever codename is stable right now? |
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| 19:47.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jch about jessie->stretch |
| 19:47.53 | teatime | jch: what is your question, then? |
| 19:48.08 | teatime | jch: whenever you want... sooner is better, unless something is stopping you? |
| 19:48.09 | jch | I've got a router that's running jessie. When do I need to start panicking? |
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| 19:48.13 | teatime | oh |
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| 19:48.44 | abrotman | jch: Do you have any crazy custom stuff on it? |
| 19:48.48 | teatime | june? |
| 19:49.02 | teatime | jch: maybe see https://wiki.debian.org/LTS which is even beyond security team eol ... |
| 19:49.13 | jch | I can deal with the crazy custom stuff. The trouble is different -- it's got a proprietary kernel, so it usually requires some hacking to get the userspace to work. |
| 19:49.21 | abrotman | I don't think I'd keep a router on LTS |
| 19:49.25 | jch | In particular, it cannot run systemd (not that I'd want to). |
| 19:49.25 | teatime | but upgrade is often quite painless; make a backup, read the release notes (!!), and try it out. |
| 19:49.44 | jch | abrotman: please explain, that's interesting. |
| 19:49.56 | abrotman | jch: jsut that it's internet-facing |
| 19:50.04 | racheel | teatime: last question, does having a backslash "/" at the end of the url really important or not? |
| 19:50.07 | teatime | is it a cool platform/arch? I wish there was some good genericish linux router/ap/etc. hardware :/ |
| 19:50.17 | teatime | racheel: it might be, I don't know |
| 19:50.31 | abrotman | jch: I don't know what kind of timely patches show up for LTS, etc |
| 19:50.44 | teatime | racheel: but realize you were asking about sources for *testing*, whereas the bot and this channel are for *stable*, so maybe also ask in #debian-next ? |
| 19:50.56 | abrotman | I don't mean to sow the seeds of FUD, but I suppose that's what I've done |
| 19:51.00 | abrotman | also, just use systemd already :) |
| 19:51.11 | teatime | abrotman: no I agree with you re: LTS |
| 19:51.26 | jch | teatime: the hardware is cool, but it's built by a company that no longer exists. It's running an old kernel, and while I've got the soruces, I don't have the manpower to port their patches to a recent one. |
| 19:51.32 | abrotman | If you're compiling your own kernel, and it's *only* a router .. you're on your own for support I suppose |
| 19:51.34 | teatime | debian is quite good at updates, take advantage of it whenever reasonable :) |
| 19:51.57 | teatime | jch: is the hardware platform a secret? |
| 19:52.21 | jch | https://github.com/MeshSr/ONetSwitch |
| 19:52.54 | jch | It's the "30" that I have. |
| 19:53.12 | teatime | thx |
| 19:53.25 | jch | teatime: I will upgrade as soon as I've got the time, but for now -- how do I find out when to panic? |
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| 19:53.59 | teatime | pokes the regulars / more-knowledgable than himself |
| 19:54.44 | jhutchins_wk | jch: What do you mean by when to panic? |
| 19:55.08 | racheel | abrotman: regarding the security updates delay in testing, if I replace "testing" by "buster", I won't get any security updates sooner as Buster is considered testing until it becomes stables am I right? |
| 19:55.23 | jhutchins_wk | racheel: They're the same thing. |
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| 19:55.28 | jch | What's the point in time at which I can no longer count on timely security updates for jessie? |
| 19:55.47 | jhutchins_wk | jch: I think it's two years after the Wheezy release. |
| 19:55.58 | racheel | jhutchins_wk: alright thanks |
| 19:56.05 | jhutchins_wk | jch: What do you do about kernel vulnerability? |
| 19:56.13 | jch | jhutchins_wk: I cross fingers. |
| 19:56.47 | jch | It's not an Internet-facing router, it's mostly used for demos, so it's not as bad as it sounds. |
| 19:56.57 | jhutchins_wk | jch: Might be worth setting up an automated build system so you can do updates when they come along. |
| 19:57.01 | jhutchins_wk | Ah, well there's that. |
| 19:57.25 | jhutchins_wk | Honestly, in that case I wouldn't even worry about updates. |
| 19:58.10 | jch | Yeah, perhaps you're right. All the more so since the SD card in this box is excuciatingly slow. |
| 19:58.16 | jhutchins_wk | I've got an internal server that still runs squeeze. |
| 19:59.05 | jch | (How I wish somebody built a cheap board with fully upstreamed drivers that had at least three independent network interfaces. All the boards I know have just two, and route one of the interfaces through an internal switch.) |
| 19:59.57 | jch | teatime: if you're happy with just two Ethernets, than I can most warmly recommend the Turris Omnia. |
| 19:59.58 | jhutchins_wk | jch: They're out there. There was a surge in build-your-own routers a few years back. |
| 20:00.06 | jch | https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ |
| 20:00.23 | jch | jhutchins_wk: three Ethernets? Or two Ethernets routed through a switch? |
| 20:00.40 | jhutchins_wk | jch: At least four, I think some had more. |
| 20:01.22 | jch | jhutchins_wk: I'd be interested in a reference. |
| 20:01.49 | jch | (Are you sure you're not confused by the internal switch?) |
| 20:02.26 | jhutchins_wk | jch: Yes. |
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| 20:02.44 | jch | Apologies, then. |
| 20:02.50 | jhutchins_wk | jch: I'll see if anybody in my LUG remembers, as I recall the discussion was there. |
| 20:03.20 | jhutchins_wk | jch: Seems like you could stack modules on a Pi or something these days. |
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| 20:04.15 | jhutchins_wk | jch: It was around the time dd-wrt became stable and viable for commercial use. |
| 20:04.24 | jch | The Pi is great for CPU-bound work, but it's got horrible I/O. I'd avoid it for routing. |
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| 20:06.45 | jch | shutdown -Fr now |
| 20:06.51 | LostSoul | Hi |
| 20:06.54 | jch | First fsck in ages, I'm nervous ;-) |
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| 20:07.28 | LostSoul | I've created lxc container and I want to use firefox inside of it, but looks like it hangs on some page (like jira dashboard) |
| 20:07.29 | teatime | pi is not gonna cut it, correct. how does a random whitebox (including NUCs, etc.) w/ one or more PCIe gbit cards stack up? |
| 20:07.47 | LostSoul | I don't have this problem on daily basis without lxc container, any idea can I do to improve this? |
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| 20:08.29 | LostSoul | I've tried to connect via ssh -X with -no-remote and with -no-xshm |
| 20:08.32 | LostSoul | Also with |
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| 20:08.41 | LostSoul | ssh -YC4c arcfour,blowfish-cbc |
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| 20:10.44 | jelly | LostSoul, does your container have limits? jira in a browser tab can eat quite a bit of ram |
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| 20:11.08 | LostSoul | indeed it has |
| 20:11.12 | LostSoul | let me copy paste it for you |
| 20:11.26 | jch | teatime: cost and space. It's cool to be able to have a portable demo. For real research work, there's simulation. |
| 20:11.28 | LostSoul | lxc.cgroup.memory.limit_in_bytes = 8G |
| 20:11.42 | jelly | 8GB should be enough |
| 20:11.59 | jelly | for a couple hundred tabs :-) |
| 20:12.02 | jch | But perhaps you're right, I haven't looked at the market recently, perhaps they've built some tiny x86-based systems with multiple PCIe |
| 20:12.20 | LostSoul | All other are defaults from /usr/share/lxc/config/debian.common.conf |
| 20:12.31 | LostSoul | jelly: It can hang even with one tab |
| 20:12.40 | LostSoul | I'm getting this GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion 'object->ref_count > 0' failed |
| 20:12.55 | teatime | jch: I'm just looking for practical h/w for using linux as soho-level (or slightly better) network hardware |
| 20:12.59 | LostSoul | And it's only error I'm seeing on termianal while ssh -X firefox |
| 20:13.02 | jelly | abrotman, lts is on par and often faster than security team |
| 20:13.18 | teatime | not for like homelab, but for low to mid -end practical purposes |
| 20:13.56 | teatime | I kinda like mikrotik, for an idea what I'm looking for. but they're not quite exactly what I want... don't run debian afaik, for example :) |
| 20:14.56 | jch | Should I worry about https://paste.debian.net/1013853/ ? |
| 20:15.37 | jch | teatime, for production use, I prefer OpenWRT/LEDE to Debian. It just works out of the box. |
| 20:15.45 | jch | Debian is great for experimental work. |
| 20:16.28 | teatime | if it can run debian, it can also run openwrt/lede, so being able to run debian is ideal. I would accept that though. I realize now we're off-topic for #debian :) |
| 20:17.24 | jch | Uh-huh. So let me plug the Turris Omnia one last time, and let's get back to Debian. |
| 20:17.29 | jelly | LostSoul, does that happen even if you run firefox over "ssh -X localhost" without a container? |
| 20:17.34 | jch | 21:14 < jch> Should I worry about https://paste.debian.net/1013853/ ? |
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| 20:21.24 | abrotman | takes jelly's hat |
| 20:21.29 | teatime | jch: doesn't sound great |
| 20:21.44 | teatime | jch: running linux on an sdcard, or ? |
| 20:21.46 | abrotman | racheel: did someone answer you? |
| 20:21.59 | racheel | abrotman: yes thanks |
| 20:22.03 | abrotman | okay, |
| 20:22.06 | jelly | it's intentional, if spam continueses |
| 20:22.12 | teatime | jch: have you done any tuning, changing options, etc., like in fstab? |
| 20:22.36 | jch | teatime: disabled the journal, that's all. |
| 20:22.41 | teatime | well |
| 20:22.48 | teatime | you know |
| 20:22.53 | jch | It doesn't matter much, it's a router, so the sdcard is only really used for booting. |
| 20:23.08 | jch | Have you looked at the Debian distribution for BeagleBone? |
| 20:23.22 | jch | It' runs from eMMC, and uses fully journalled ext4. |
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| 20:24.01 | jch | (The developer is rather responsive, so if somebody wants to work with him to get that fixed, I'm sure he'll be pleased.) |
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| 20:24.15 | LostSoul | jelly: Is normal: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/34fd3755/ ? |
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| 20:24.44 | LostSoul | It's a view inside host (outside container) |
| 20:25.35 | jelly | interesting, so it's really something related to the container env |
| 20:25.52 | teatime | perhaps it would ideally be a ro / fs then ... or if you don't feel like doing that, some like data=writeback would be better than no journal at all |
| 20:26.18 | teatime | jch: otherwise, yeah you can lose data from powerfail, and you'll want to actually fsck occassionally (who has time for that) |
| 20:26.19 | LostSoul | jelly: Maybe I should got with VM as I don't have idea |
| 20:26.56 | LostSoul | I use this container with VPN on startup so it was useful - start container and bang VPN up with FF and few other tools but this behaviour is weird |
| 20:27.04 | jelly | LostSoul, sadly lxc is outside my area of expertise, maybe ask #lxcontainers what might cause it |
| 20:27.06 | teatime | jch: debian on beaglebone sounds nice to me... am underwhelmed by Pi, although its price is nice |
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| 20:27.36 | jhutchins_wk | jch: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/the-router-rumble-ars-diy-build-faces-better-tests-tougher-competition/ |
| 20:28.05 | LostSoul | thanks jelly |
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| 20:30.20 | jch | jhutchins_wk: great! |
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| 20:32.43 | teatime | jhutchins_wk: nice |
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| 20:36.28 | jch | jhutchins_wk: grr, looking at the Mikrotik hEX, and it's got just two Ethernets connected to a switch :-/ |
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| 20:40.47 | teatime | jch: https://www.amazon.com/Qotom/pages/10065023011 these are interesting... seem to use multiple Intel I211-AT controllers (which is a single 1Gbit, afaict) |
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| 20:46.14 | jch | Uh-huh. Plus it can take mini-PCI. |
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| 20:49.18 | debstuff234 | Hello I have a small syntax error with a script, the row is: hdiutil resize -size `hdiutil resize -limits /tmp/Mavericks.sparseimage | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $1 }'`b /tmp/Mavericks.sparseimage |
| 20:49.57 | debstuff234 | the console says unable to read -size parameter in "hdiutil... |
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| 20:50.30 | debstuff234 | Can you guys help me to spot the error ? I guess that it is something related to the quotes.. |
| 20:50.52 | vlt | debstuff234: Try using $() instead of backticks. |
| 20:51.28 | petn-randall | debstuff234: What does "hdiutil resize -limits /tmp/Mavericks.sparseimage | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $1 }'" return for you? |
| 20:51.31 | vlt | $(command goes here) |
| 20:51.37 | teatime | and see what this prints: hdiutil resize -limits /tmp/Mavericks.sparseimage | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $1 }' |
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| 20:52.02 | jelly | debstuff234, prepend an "echo " to that command and show the output |
| 20:52.19 | Diveyez | Hello! |
| 20:52.30 | jelly | debstuff234, also, replace `...` with $(...) |
| 20:52.35 | Diveyez | Is there anywhere to get ctefx.bin ? |
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| 20:52.51 | Diveyez | I check googles, nothing turned up |
| 20:52.59 | jelly | judd, file ctefx.bin |
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| 20:53.03 | judd | Search for ctefx.bin in stretch/amd64: firmware-misc-nonfree: lib/firmware/ctefx.bin |
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| 20:53.29 | jelly | Diveyez, install that package from non-free section ^ |
| 20:53.34 | jelly | !non-free sources |
| 20:53.34 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 20:54.12 | Diveyez | Ill have to instlal after I do the initial OS setup then |
| 20:54.20 | Diveyez | ITs an error at graphical installer |
| 20:54.34 | Diveyez | Been using debian for a decade or more, never seen that before |
| 20:54.55 | jelly | Diveyez, if it prevents you from installation, use the unofficial installer images with firmware |
| 20:54.59 | jelly | !firmware images |
| 20:54.59 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
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| 20:55.13 | diveyez | Im using firmware-buster |
| 20:55.15 | diveyez | ;) |
| 20:55.20 | diveyez | I like to live on the edge |
| 20:55.24 | petn-randall | !testing installer |
| 20:55.25 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 20:55.29 | petn-randall | diveyez: related ^^^ |
| 20:55.50 | diveyez | I grabbed the wrong image that is all |
| 20:56.08 | diveyez | Im used to doing this on desktops, not a 5000$ aliwnare lol |
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| 20:56.29 | jelly | diveyez, is your goal installing buster or testing the installer itself? |
| 20:56.57 | annadane | unstable installer? :-) |
| 20:56.59 | diveyez | Installing and testing to make my own armel armhf builds with buster |
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| 20:57.38 | jch | diveyez: debootstrap instead of the installer? That's what I do. |
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| 20:57.48 | diveyez | Dualbooting |
| 20:58.10 | diveyez | There is no support for alienware in the linux world |
| 20:58.22 | diveyez | But I fully intend on getting steam on it and gaming |
| 20:58.37 | petn-randall | diveyez: Then steamos might be a better choice. |
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| 20:59.58 | diveyez | NO ITS NOT |
| 21:00.03 | diveyez | That thing is broke as hell |
| 21:00.46 | jch | giggles. |
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| 21:01.01 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
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| 21:01.44 | annadane | i'm sure one *can* install debian on alienware... |
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| 21:04.40 | znull | hey, how can i install nagios via apt? |
| 21:04.56 | znull | it seems nagios3 is missing? or 4 from apt-get repos? |
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| 21:11.45 | jelly | ,v nagios3 |
| 21:11.46 | judd | Package: nagios3 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.1-3+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 3.4.1-3+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 3.4.1-5~bpo7+2; jessie: 3.5.1.dfsg-2+b1 |
| 21:11.52 | jelly | ,v nagios4 |
| 21:11.53 | judd | No package named 'nagios4' was found in amd64. |
| 21:12.02 | petn-randall | !why is nagios3 not in testing |
| 21:12.03 | dpkg | nagios3 is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=nagios3 |
| 21:12.07 | petn-randall | znull: ^^^ |
| 21:12.12 | jelly | ,bug rm nagios3 |
| 21:12.15 | judd | Sorry, no removal reasons were found. |
| 21:12.33 | jelly | petn-randall, it's not in stable or sid either |
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| 21:13.00 | znull | petn-randall, i dont get it lol, i got strech debian 9.x |
| 21:13.02 | annadane | tracker dot debian dot org slash blah blah blah blah |
| 21:13.17 | jch | Thanks for everyone's help, and so long. |
| 21:13.48 | annadane | https://tracker.debian.org/news/832503 seems to be abandoned, i guess |
| 21:14.03 | annadane | well never mind they left |
| 21:14.11 | znull | jelly, so i'll have to install it from sources? |
| 21:14.12 | annadane | oh, wrong person, lol. |
| 21:15.02 | jelly | znull, or use an alternative like icinga I guess |
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| 21:16.13 | jelly | #845765 |
| 21:16.14 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/845765 in wnpp (closed): «O: nagios3 -- host/service/network monitoring and management system»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-11-26; last modified: 2016-12-25. |
| 21:16.27 | jelly | it was orphaned and noone cared |
| 21:16.55 | jelly | weird judd did not find that |
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| 21:17.55 | teatime | that's crazy |
| 21:18.03 | teatime | seems like a good bit of that going around |
| 21:18.10 | jelly | what's crazy? |
| 21:18.10 | znull | jelly, how about other repos? which has nagios? .deb package do you know by any chance? |
| 21:18.44 | jelly | if I knew of a reputable source I'd probably have mentioned it |
| 21:18.59 | jelly | znull, what's wrong with icinga? |
| 21:19.30 | jelly | or really icinga2 |
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| 21:19.55 | znull | jelly, i think icinga now uses mysql, vs nagios .text configuration files |
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| 21:22.58 | jelly | znull, might be, but the package dependencies don't seem to imply that |
| 21:23.11 | jelly | apt-cache show icinga2 icinga2-bin icinga2-common |grep -iE 'mysql|mariadb|pg|postgres' |
| 21:23.53 | jelly | but I don't use it or have it installed anywhere |
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| 21:24.50 | jelly | $work moved from nagios3 to nagios xi (commercial thing, that also uses a db of some sort to generate config files) |
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| 21:26.24 | znull | jelly, nevermind. i'll do like 10 years ago ./configure, and build some .deb package |
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| 21:27.54 | D3str | Hi_ |
| 21:28.11 | D3str | Do u know how many gigabytes takes KDE after installed? In disk space I mean |
| 21:28.19 | D3str | (sorry for my english, I'm german btw) |
| 21:28.38 | annadane | depends on the version of KDE; if you're installing it via apt it will tell you before you confirm that you want to install it |
| 21:28.45 | annadane | as for the tasksel in the installer... not sure |
| 21:28.55 | rgr | There is no "size". Depends on which KDE options you want. |
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| 21:29.30 | annadane | s/version/variant (such as kde-standard, kde-full, etc) |
| 21:29.33 | rgr | and TBH I would qonder why you need to know. Its not like Hard Disk is short supply these days. If it is then KDE probably not for you. |
| 21:30.07 | annadane | KDE is not incredibly resource heavy, depending on your hardware/disk space |
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| 21:31.44 | D3str | rgr its for a virtual machine, so the disk space count y'know |
| 21:31.49 | D3str | But thanks for the information guys |
| 21:31.57 | annadane | i want to say it's something like 250 MB but i really don't know |
| 21:32.06 | D3str | Okay thank's brodda |
| 21:32.27 | annadane | ah, never mind, it seems to be significantly more |
| 21:32.37 | annadane | After this operation, 1,120 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 21:32.51 | annadane | that's what i get when trying to install kde-standard on xfce |
| 21:33.03 | D3str | Oh shit haha |
| 21:33.11 | D3str | Ok ok, thank for trying this |
| 21:33.26 | annadane | that's not a hard number, just an estimate; again it depends on the KDE you want - you don't need to install a metapackage, you can just install the window manager and add what you want later |
| 21:33.35 | jelly | gnome takes about 4-5GB, I suspect kde-full will be similar |
| 21:33.36 | annadane | which for kde is... sddm i think? |
| 21:33.52 | annadane | no, kwin, probably |
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| 21:34.37 | annadane | if you just click "kde" in the graphical installer you'll get the tasksel variant of it |
| 21:34.58 | annadane | which is very much not the minimal install |
| 21:35.31 | D3str | Do u use Debian as desktop distribution? |
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| 21:35.48 | jelly | yes |
| 21:36.49 | D3str | Why not an other distribution in rolling-release ? U don't want ur packets up to date ? |
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| 21:37.12 | annadane | 250 MB RAM is probably what i was thinking of |
| 21:37.12 | jelly | you're in #debian dude |
| 21:37.22 | jelly | what answer do you expect honestly? |
| 21:37.26 | annadane | i use debian but debian unstable, so i do get up to date packages |
| 21:37.35 | annadane | some people just prefer the guarantee that debian stable gives |
| 21:38.13 | jelly | I want my crap to work and not change around every week. So stable. |
| 21:38.40 | jelly | !next |
| 21:38.40 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 21:52.15 | diveyez | Everything works |
| 21:52.18 | diveyez | Except apt |
| 21:53.05 | diveyez | Itâs like, please enter the image to cdrom |
| 21:53.12 | diveyez | Meanwhile I installed using usb |
| 21:53.15 | diveyez | So much for buster |
| 21:53.18 | annadane | diveyez, comment out the cd rom lines in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:57.11 | diveyez | Th js |
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| 22:03.47 | diveyez | Thanks, it was missing lines in sources list as well |
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| 22:08.57 | KNERD | Anyone know why on the KVIrc client, the Windows version one can put in the host field "username@domain/ip-address", but in the version which comes with Debian, only the ip-address, or host name can only be put in the host field? |
| 22:09.15 | KNERD | Sorry.. not KVIRC. Putty!!! |
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| 22:10.03 | teatime | try to ask your question more clearly ... |
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| 22:15.17 | gary72 | Hey there, guess what, it's "these kids who got nothing to do" again, enjoy the spam. |
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| 22:15.38 | Mclaren | Do they teach english in Palestine? You stinky fucking sand systemd. That's right, I am to the Arabs as Hitler was to the Jews. My job is to exterminate every last one of your race, starting with YOU, you disgusting wretch of an Arab dog. You'll lick my boot right before you dig your own ditch, and then I'll shoot you in the back of the head. You're naked, stomach swollen, hungry, exhausted. You're my dog. If you're luck |
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| 22:15.42 | Shanley | So assuming that I know how to write cronjobs, bash scripts that change the color of my prompt, and DOS batch scripts, which language should I try learning first? |
| 22:15.46 | Woods-Powell | girl you must be ieee-1284 because i can tell that your port is bidirectional |
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| 22:15.48 | Daskalu | I'm very sorry to hear about your situation. I'll write a post about it on BlogSpot and Xanga. Maybe we can also start a social bookmark campaign to highlight your story. |
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| 22:15.54 | Stiepock | If Microsoft gets rid of that millions lines of spaghetti code in Windows XP (expect the same in Longhorn 2006 & Blackcomb 2112) and comes up with a brand new efficient system that equals the Apple, Apple can finally be laid to rest. After all Microsoft is the standard, like the Qwerty keyboard. You are going to have to live with Microsoft and those millions of lines of spaghetti code for some years to come. |
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| 22:16.00 | Petruzello | Anime isn't just a bunch of cheap American ripoffs of cartoons, it's art. Next time you American sheeple are watching your simpsons or south park or whatever mindless American cartoons that have plots, storylines and comedy, I'll be Admiring the wonderful and superior art of Chinese cartoons. |
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| 22:16.02 | Yetiv | Her lips bit onto his, opened, and began force vomiting shit down his throat. Her fingers dug deep into his flesh and John struggled as Kihnda pulled him down. Into the toilet, into her kind, warm love, where they could be forever. John tried to break free. He didn.t make it. The shit was too strong. His penis still erect, a die-hard pervert to the end, loving every last fucking minute of it, John drowned in his cannibal leavings. |
| 22:16.02 | Woods-Powell | Can anyone tell me how many times these high and mighty evolution scientists have already backpedalled and changed their version of the truth to fit some new finding? I've already lost the count... pathetic, really. |
| 22:16.06 | Slowe | Three guesses as to who was asked to leave the Starbucks; oh, and told "not to come back" with my "hateful rhetoric". True enough, I just said I hate systemds; but the problem is, everything I said WAS TRUE! |
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| 22:16.06 | annadane | !ops ^^^ |
| 22:16.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: annadane complains about a problem (see above) |
| 22:16.08 | Mclaren | PS3 is shaping out to be a true status symbol for those who are very well off. I earn a salary reaching 75k per year and that's without my annual bonus.I'll be getting three PS3 systems (two for back up purposes). The games are rumoured to be locked $89 and upwards for each copy. The software price is expected to never go down over time ending the practice of consumers waiting for prices to fall. Each system can not play |
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| 22:16.11 | Shanley | I like to give my self paper cuts on the head of my cock. Then have ferocious sex to feel the burn. Think about your breathing |
| 22:16.13 | Stiepock | Gentlemen, I am pleased to announce that in addition to having leech access to the most elite 0-day courier FTPs, I have thousands of shell accounts, each of which are capable of running an unlimited number of processes with eggdrop/IRC support. My botnet is unfathomably large.I have access to hundreds witty IRC vhosts, using every existing TLD. I connect to them using an unreleased version of mIRC with every feature you could possibly desire, inclu |
| 22:16.13 | Hanania | Christianity was founded and propagated by Jews. It is also the source of Western art, morality, and science. |
| 22:16.15 | Beater | i had a great time last night. thanks for tying me up with carpenters rope around my mantits and through the crack of my asshole and then facefucking me while pouring candle wax all over my areolas, your spiked-toe boots digging into my side while i am on all fours, back arched like a frightened cat, begging for mercy as the thick bands of the rope run back and forth teasing my grundel and burning my semen-encrusted pubic hairs, the smell so engulfing i vomi |
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| 22:16.16 | Storer | BREAKING NEWS: THE RING-LEADER OF THE INFAMOUS INTERNATIONAL PEDOPHILE RING "THE CATHOLIC CHURCH" HAS DIED, HE WAS 84. |
| 22:16.16 | Petruzello | Me and one of my friends went out today for some dinner so we stopped at a pretty nice restaurant. I don't smoke and most of the time I sit in the non smoking section but I didn't feel like walking to the back of the restaurant today so me and my friend sat at the first table we came to in the smoking section. Since most ppl should be aware that I don't smoke I didn't think I would have any problems. I was wrong. This jerk lit up a cigarette right ne |
| 22:16.18 | Daskalu | i gobbled up turds. Yes. it was me!! I creeped into the mens room of my local mcd's. Murder is wrong, and sodomy's a sin, but there ain't nothin wrong with this shit eating grin. Shit eating grin! Shit eating grin. I'm a fecal feasting faggot, always have been. Shit eating grin! Shit eating grin! Well hey you guys, what's happenin? :) |
| 22:16.21 | Woods-Powell | So let me guess, you were one of those guys late up at night. jobless, and tired of going to your dead end job, until you saw a commercial for an exciting career in "Information Technology!" offered by the DeVry institute where you will be trained in as little as 3 months in the field of INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY! Promising you the career of $50,000 a yearAnd now with this knowledge and your A+ certification, you join random channels i |
| 22:16.22 | Stock | What the fuck does it mean? What's the point? Is that sticker telling me to drive more carefully because you've spawned, and you're carrying said spawn in your auto-mobile? Why should I care? You're obvously an idiot, so why should I have any regard for the waste matter that sprung screaming from your idiot loins? I'm gonna drive how I'm gonna drive. Just because you've gone out of your way to inform me that you happen to be transporting y |
| 22:16.23 | Yetiv | i hacked into an airline's computer systems and stole a huge bunch of frequent flyer points then traded them in for merchandise and got a sony playstation 2 |
| 22:16.23 | Shanley | girl you must be Doom 3 cause when the action starts the lights go out |
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| 22:16.24 | Brenan | The case against marijuana legalization:Marijuana is not dissimilar to other drugs, except in that its users seem to be rather slow witted after heavy and extended use. You know the type. Tobacco and alcohol have their disadvantages too though, so really marijuana is not too different. Except that for some reason, marijuana users have been unable to make a convincing case in favour of marijuana. They haven't won the argument at all, and |
| 22:16.26 | Lessi | hi, i came across a picture on 'rate my poo' a few weeks ago, of a female bent over in a forest or something, with a long 'log' coming out of her backside. it's since been vanished from the site - any chance of it being re-posted, or getting a copy of it emailed to me? that would be great! thanks....... |
| 22:16.27 | Stiepock | Recently, as a reward for getting straight 'A's I took my son to a CompUSA and told him he could have any computer he wanted. Imagine my disgust when he selected a mac mini. It's as if I took him to a whorehouse for his first lay and he wound up getting head from the bouncer. Where did I fail as a father? |
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| 22:17.43 | JustASlacker | \o/ |
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| 22:21.27 | jelly | somiaj, now, ops can see all the lines, others can see only what ops reply |
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| 22:22.05 | jelly | somiaj, and now freenode k-line happy bot can see all the lines as well |
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| 22:22.26 | jelly | hi |
| 22:23.26 | teatime | jelly: did you change something? such that I can't reply to people, until the spam subsides etc. and you undo it? |
| 22:23.28 | jelly | robot56, I'm fine. This is a tech support channel for Debian, if you want to chat, try #debian-offtopic |
| 22:23.36 | teatime | (which is fine, just clarifying / wondering) |
| 22:23.39 | jelly | teatime, yes. |
| 22:23.41 | teatime | k |
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| 22:35.50 | KNERD | In the Putty client, the Windows version one can put in the host field "username@domain/ip-address", In the Putty client or Debian, only the ip-address, or host name can only be put in the host field. If one tries to put "username@ip-address"/hostname" in the hostname/Ip address field,on Debian Putty it will return "name, or service not found" |
| 22:36.18 | KNERD | ANy reason for that? |
| 22:37.40 | somiaj | KNERD: could it be a version difference between the version you are using in windows and debian. You may also want to check putty support, and see if this is a difference between the windows and linux version. |
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| 22:38.59 | KNERD | somiaj: okay thanks. I see Windows they have .70, and the repo Debian one is .67 |
| 22:39.42 | somiaj | that is what I saw as well, but I don't know putty well enough to know if that is the difference. |
| 22:39.50 | diveyez | Buster hangs on network-manager update/config damn |
| 22:39.57 | jelly | ,v putty |
| 22:39.58 | judd | Package: putty on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.62-9+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 0.62-9+deb7u3; jessie: 0.63-10+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.63-10+deb8u1; stretch: 0.67-3; buster: 0.70-1; sid: 0.70-2 |
| 22:40.22 | jelly | dpkg, tell diveyez -about debian-next |
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| 22:41.35 | diveyez | Thanks |
| 22:41.57 | jelly | mind the different irc network |
| 22:42.04 | KNERD | Hmm.. I am using stretch |
| 22:43.02 | somiaj | KNERD: you might be able to backport putty easily enough to stretch (/msg dpkg ssb) and this way you could see if it is a feature of the 0.70 version. |
| 22:43.28 | KNERD | yeah I will try that, thanks |
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| 23:04.46 | brimonk | What packages do I need if I'm going to try to run kvm vms through qemu? |
| 23:05.05 | brimonk | Specifically, what versions of libvirt and the *virt* related things? |
| 23:05.35 | somiaj | brimonk: well libvirt is only a frontend to this, and the main package is called qemu-kvm that has the kvm extensions to qemu |
| 23:05.55 | somiaj | brimonk: are you running stretch or jessie, the wiki has a clear descirption of the packages you need to install to get libvrit working |
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| 23:06.09 | brimonk | Currently running stretch. |
| 23:06.44 | somiaj | https://wiki.debian.org/KVM#Installation |
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| 23:08.37 | awal1 | brimonk, if you are gui oriented, I guess installing 'virt-manager' you'll get all what you need for qemu-kvm |
| 23:10.08 | brimonk | awal1: I'm trying to get a list of virtual machines running through a headless machine, accessible over vnc or ssh. |
| 23:10.13 | brimonk | Anything specific for that? |
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| 23:13.00 | awal1 | brimonk, not an expert of virtualization here, just ask in room and someone may help if he/she knows |
| 23:14.48 | msiism | i've recently discovered that some pdf files i had downloaded a while ago could not really be read anymore on Debian Jessie. these files are not broken (i am able to read them without problems on other systems), but the foreground color has mysteriously turned to white for whatever reason. i tried this with a fresh installation of jessie on a laptop and got the same result (using atril, xpdf and zathura). i beleive the i |
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| 23:15.27 | somiaj | brimonk: libvirt has virsh to control vms from the cli |
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| 23:19.45 | msiism | if anyone wants to try for themselves, here's a link to a pdf file that displays the problem: https://archive.org/details/ZeitschriftFrSozialforschung1.Jg |
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| 23:20.50 | somiaj | msiism: what pdf reader are you using? That could have a lot to do with it. |
| 23:21.22 | msiism | somiaj: atril, xpdf and zathura have been tried. |
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| 23:21.36 | msiism | somiaj: they all use different rendering backends, iirc. |
| 23:23.01 | hypn0 | works fine with firefox :-/ |
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| 23:23.55 | somiaj | maybe just try to use the browser built in reader, that link seems to work just fine in chromium here. There is also evince. I think it is the reader myself, but unsure why those readers you listed won't work. Is it all .pdfs or only cerntain one. |
| 23:24.00 | msiism | somiaj: and the problem does not occur on Debian stretch. |
| 23:24.42 | somiaj | ,v atril |
| 23:24.43 | judd | Package: atril on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.0+dfsg1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-4+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.8.1+dfsg1-4+deb8u1; stretch: 1.16.1-2+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.16.1-2+deb9u1; stretch-backports: 1.18.3-2~bpo9+1; buster: 1.20.0-1; sid: 1.20.0-1 |
| 23:25.04 | hypn0 | on 8.x too, here |
| 23:25.10 | msiism | somiaj: i'm on i386, fwiw |
| 23:25.12 | somiaj | well version differences of readers, it could be just some issue with the .pdfs |
| 23:25.35 | somiaj | and newer readers can deal with it better. |
| 23:25.54 | msiism | somiaj: but it wokred just fine a few month ago. |
| 23:26.08 | hypn0 | still does :-/ |
| 23:26.15 | msiism | somiaj: and i was able to read those file from that very hard drive through a live system i booted. |
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| 23:26.37 | msiism | hypn0: are you on jessie? |
| 23:26.45 | hypn0 | what did you change? |
| 23:26.58 | hypn0 | 8.x, yes |
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| 23:27.09 | somiaj | jessie has had very few updates in the last months, espically ones on the pdf readers. |
| 23:27.36 | msiism | hypn0: i beleive nothing. and it happened with a fresh install on a laptop as well. |
| 23:28.00 | msiism | hypn0: and by fresh install i mean, basic system tools + xorg + xpdf and no configuration changes. |
| 23:28.01 | hypn0 | why install 8 :-/ |
| 23:28.52 | msiism | hypn0: i'm not actually a debian user, i use devuan. and their current stable release still tracks jessie. i thought it was a devuan-specific issue at first. but then i installed debian and it pccured there as well. |
| 23:30.04 | jelly | nice, if you can reproduce on actual debian it's okay to ask here |
| 23:30.36 | msiism | somiaj: also, about those files. they differ in what pdf versions they are (1.4 to 1.6) as well as in creation dates. there's nothing that seems to connect them really. |
| 23:31.00 | jelly | there was a regression in poppler library a new months ago |
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| 23:31.30 | jelly | or somewhere adjacent |
| 23:31.49 | msiism | jelly: ok, interesting. maybe that has sth to do with it. |
| 23:32.09 | msiism | hypn0: what's your pdf reader? |
| 23:32.26 | hypn0 | firefox :-) |
| 23:33.01 | msiism | hypn0: i see. do you have any other pdf reader installed? |
| 23:33.06 | hypn0 | 58.0.2 (64-bit) |
| 23:33.46 | hypn0 | I think I uninstalled a couple, way back |
| 23:34.09 | msiism | hypn0: would you be able to try, say, xpdf? |
| 23:34.42 | hypn0 | you want me to make it not work :-/ |
| 23:35.01 | msiism | hypn0: exactly. |
| 23:35.39 | msiism | hypn0: on a side note: i tend to use w3m more since the more recent releases of firefox... |
| 23:35.40 | hypn0 | bash: xpdf: command not found |
| 23:35.51 | msiism | hypn0: yes, it's not there by default. |
| 23:35.53 | jelly | #886798 |
| 23:35.54 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/886798 in libpoppler46 (open): «libpoppler46: displays empty pages after security update»; severity: important; opened: 2018-01-09; last modified: 2018-01-10. |
| 23:36.07 | jelly | msiism, ^^ does that look like your symptoms? |
| 23:36.14 | msiism | jelly: it does! |
| 23:37.41 | annadane | you wizard. |
| 23:38.00 | hypn0 | why don't you use something else :-) |
| 23:38.26 | msiism | hypn0: like a pdf ready not using libpoppler? |
| 23:38.50 | jelly | apparently that did not happen > I'll look into fixing jessie later today or tomorrow. |
| 23:39.13 | msiism | jelly: you mean fix that libpoppler bug? |
| 23:39.28 | hypn0 | I thought it said some programs :-/ |
| 23:39.51 | jelly | yes. Also, there was a workaround that involved either installing or removing some font package, I vaguely remember doing it on my stretch system to make things better |
| 23:40.16 | msiism | jelly: great! thank you very much. |
| 23:40.51 | msiism | hypn0: well, xpdf, zathura, atril (which is an evince clone) are apparently equally affected. |
| 23:41.31 | jelly | (if you run dpkg -s on those or ldd /usr/bin/xpdf you'll probably find they all use the same pdf rendering library, poppler) |
| 23:41.53 | jelly | also: kde's okular |
| 23:42.12 | msiism | jelly: ok, i see. |
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| 23:43.44 | jelly | msiism, I'd probably mail a ping on 886798, maintainer fixed the regression in stretch but probably forgot about jessie |
| 23:44.41 | jelly | msiism, or find the fix yourself comparing the differences in stretch versions and do a package rebuild (/msg dpkg package rebuild) with fix |
| 23:44.52 | msiism | jelly: you mean, i should do this? i wouldn't really know how, tbh. |
| 23:44.59 | msiism | jelly: that's way out of my league. |
| 23:45.11 | jelly | so mail the bug first |
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| 23:46.05 | msiism | jelly: but it has already been reported (the link you posted) or am i missing sth here? |
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| 23:46.42 | jelly | yes it has. And the maintainer said they were going to fix it. But they didn't. So ping them, very politely |
| 23:47.15 | jelly | maybe asking naively if the fix for regression from stretch can be applied or not |
| 23:47.48 | msiism | jelly: ok, i get it. i'd just replay to the bug report, uisng 886798@bugs.debian.org, right? |
| 23:47.53 | jelly | yes |
| 23:48.05 | msiism | jelly: good. i'll do that then. |
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| 23:49.07 | jelly | some maintainers frown on "me too" for bug reports, but you can probably spin it so you look concerned and suggesting a way forward, instead of implying they merely forgot to fix their stuff |
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| 23:52.48 | msiism | jelly: i'll try to strike the right tone. |
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