| 00:00.32 | *** join/#debian FoolishOwl (bgvaughan@unaffiliated/foolishowl) |
| 00:00.46 | *** join/#debian weez17 (~isaac@unaffiliated/weez17) |
| 00:01.08 | *** join/#debian Renari (~Renari@24.229.185.155.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) |
| 00:01.16 | asterismo_l | pvformat command not found? |
| 00:02.17 | asterismo_l | frostschutz, any ideas what package has it? |
| 00:02.28 | *** join/#debian JohnA (~john@2606:6d00:100:4302:e1ce:b32c:2c46:d6ff) |
| 00:02.46 | vlt | is still awake :D |
| 00:02.50 | vlt | asterismo_l: pvcreate |
| 00:03.01 | asterismo_l | oh |
| 00:03.48 | asterismo_l | after vgextend bulldozer_vg /dev/mapper/md2_crypt |
| 00:03.51 | *** join/#debian galex-713_ (~galex-713@2a01:e0a:54:cb90:a8d:eeb9:e249:ce2c) |
| 00:04.01 | asterismo_l | i get Volume group "bulldozer_vg" not found |
| 00:04.11 | vlt | Wasn't it "-" |
| 00:04.36 | *** join/#debian Jubei_ (~Jubei@x4dba1f18.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 00:04.37 | vlt | ? |
| 00:05.17 | vlt | That's why it is so important to actually understand what the commands are supposed to do. |
| 00:05.24 | *** join/#debian Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 00:06.24 | asterismo_l | what was the command to see the names? |
| 00:06.27 | *** join/#debian Vin3 (~vine@189.10.167.81) |
| 00:06.30 | asterismo_l | of volumes? |
| 00:07.02 | vlt | lvs |
| 00:08.00 | asterismo_l | oh, i wrote under _ it was - |
| 00:08.02 | asterismo_l | ok |
| 00:08.19 | *** join/#debian Ticho (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 00:08.34 | asterismo_l | vlt, this command is complete? pvmove /dev/mapper/md0p5_crypt |
| 00:09.00 | asterismo_l | i feel i have a destination missing, scrolling back |
| 00:09.34 | vlt | asterismo_l: Dest not needed |
| 00:10.05 | vlt | LVM will use any available PVs as target (if you don't specify). |
| 00:10.19 | asterismo_l | pvmove bulldozer-vg /dev/mapper/md0p5_crypt ? |
| 00:10.31 | *** join/#debian hadron (~hadron@36.73.84.167) |
| 00:10.46 | *** join/#debian Urangst (~Urangst@191.250.221.41) |
| 00:11.00 | asterismo_l | i emulated the syntax from previous command |
| 00:11.12 | *** join/#debian OS-21954 (~OS-21954@99-110-237-41.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:11.30 | vlt | asterismo_l: I don't think the vg is necessary. |
| 00:11.46 | vlt | LVM knows its PVs. |
| 00:12.02 | asterismo_l | its running now pvmove |
| 00:12.13 | asterismo_l | my adrenaline level is really high |
| 00:12.33 | asterismo_l | xD |
| 00:13.14 | vlt | asterismo_l: LVM should survive even an interrupted pvmove. |
| 00:14.17 | asterismo_l | 2% |
| 00:14.54 | vlt | listens to Tunnel of Love and is going to sleep now |
| 00:19.27 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 00:19.28 | *** topic/#debian is Debian Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.4 ; /msg dpkg jessie->stretch; /msg dpkg install stretch | Oldstable: Debian Jessie /msg dpkg jessie ; /msg dpkg 8.10 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing, unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 00:19.57 | *** join/#debian OS-34800 (~OS-34800@201.192.130.26) |
| 00:22.56 | *** join/#debian Evol (~no@191.190.200.16) |
| 00:23.02 | *** join/#debian th_ (~th@unaffiliated/th-/x-5048110) |
| 00:25.31 | *** join/#debian cybrNaut (cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 00:25.31 | *** join/#debian cybrNaut (cybrNaut@unaffiliated/cybrnaut) |
| 00:26.11 | *** join/#debian SaintAnode (~SaintAnod@123-243-84-154.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1525] by debhelper |
| 00:27.39 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:29.43 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, lsblk should be interesting if pvmove is running right now |
| 00:32.23 | *** join/#debian CJTrucker2 (~sucker@mtrlpq3120w-lp130-01-74-14-212-25.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:34.38 | *** join/#debian secretlizardman (~manjaro-g@69.43.66.17) |
| 00:34.59 | asterismo_l | 18% |
| 00:36.14 | asterismo_l | frostschutz, http://paste.debian.net/1014423/ |
| 00:37.10 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, looks good so far :) |
| 00:37.15 | asterismo_l | yep |
| 00:38.53 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zgeirtndctookpuz) |
| 00:41.50 | frostschutz | you could already prep the md0p1 /boot -> md1 /boot switch while pvmove is still running. since /boot is unrelated to lvm |
| 00:44.05 | asterismo_l | yes indeed |
| 00:44.57 | *** join/#debian deznuts (uid92154@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xiggszbyidfigdmo) |
| 00:45.31 | *** join/#debian mo1991 (~mo1991@72.184.140.27) |
| 00:46.37 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (c0ncealed@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/c0ncealed) |
| 00:47.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1515] by debhelper |
| 00:47.54 | *** part/#debian rippingdeath (~rippingde@159.65.116.209) |
| 00:49.11 | *** join/#debian handsome_feng (~feng@218.76.23.26) |
| 00:52.21 | asterismo_l | frostschutz, done |
| 00:52.31 | *** join/#debian brunodantastx (~brunodant@201.20.111.46) |
| 00:52.44 | *** join/#debian Morph4me2 (~Morph4me2@d67-193-214-25.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 00:53.04 | *** join/#debian jsooksom (~jsooksom@cm-171-101-165-15.revip11.asianet.co.th) |
| 00:53.45 | asterismo_l | but now after unmount it, i think it get mounted after it is added to md1 |
| 00:54.30 | *** join/#debian Rez (~LoRez@freenode/staff-emeritus/lorez) |
| 00:55.02 | *** join/#debian noobineer1 (~noobineer@2601:401:8000:3cb:3035:f4e5:df6c:e23e) |
| 00:55.16 | *** join/#debian aphotica (~sysx@cpe-70-94-72-19.kc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:55.46 | *** join/#debian sim590 (~sim590@cable-192.222.210.73.electronicbox.net) |
| 00:55.47 | *** join/#debian valledelucena (~rafaeldel@2804:14d:ba83:2709:9507:770d:a3e6:23b9) |
| 00:56.46 | *** join/#debian Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@unaffiliated/obi-wan) |
| 00:57.28 | *** join/#debian brunodantastx (~brunodant@201.20.111.46) |
| 00:59.15 | *** join/#debian tec__ (~aegis@mm.sixtopia.net) |
| 01:00.59 | *** join/#debian Psy-Q (~psy-q@www.psy-q.ch) |
| 01:01.22 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 01:01.49 | *** join/#debian smolboye (~smolboye@27.4.57.209) |
| 01:01.53 | *** join/#debian seneca (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 01:02.03 | *** join/#debian Cavedude (~Cavedude@unaffiliated/cavedude) |
| 01:02.40 | *** join/#debian rofl_ (rofl@2601:441:8680:4631:20b3:fc15:12c5:30d8) |
| 01:03.28 | *** join/#debian baruch_spinoza (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 01:04.21 | *** join/#debian joer (40bbd370@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.187.211.112) |
| 01:05.14 | *** join/#debian uxfi (~uxfi@pool-173-66-197-155.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:05.14 | *** join/#debian uxfi (~uxfi@unaffiliated/uxfi) |
| 01:05.33 | joer | i am having a problem booting into linux antiX - i think it is a bios issue |
| 01:06.01 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wiaugtodjsmuogvi) |
| 01:06.46 | hyperlumic | !antix |
| 01:06.46 | dpkg | antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 01:07.22 | *** join/#debian Chikore (~Chuck@unaffiliated/chikore) |
| 01:07.35 | *** join/#debian awal1 (~awal1@modemcable195.197-226-192.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 01:07.57 | joer | ok maybe i am in the wrong channel to ask such a general question, suggest a better channel? |
| 01:08.12 | hyperlumic | I think the tip mentioned #mepis. |
| 01:08.39 | *** join/#debian jarlaxl (~jarlaxl@user123.intek.cz) |
| 01:09.13 | hadron | wow, Is dpkg murdoch? |
| 01:09.14 | *** join/#debian nighty- (~nighty@kyotolabs.asahinet.com) |
| 01:09.43 | joer | thanks dpkg i will go check it out |
| 01:09.52 | hyperlumic | dpkg is a bot. :P |
| 01:09.52 | dpkg | hyperlumic: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 01:10.02 | *** join/#debian baruch_spinoza (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 01:10.33 | *** join/#debian apus (~apus@gateway/tor-sasl/apus) |
| 01:12.02 | *** join/#debian baruch_spinoza (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 01:13.01 | *** part/#debian joer (40bbd370@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.187.211.112) |
| 01:14.55 | *** join/#debian Eduard_Munteanu (~Eduard_Mu@188.26.139.214) |
| 01:15.56 | *** join/#debian Krennic (~Krennic@unaffiliated/krennic) |
| 01:16.02 | *** join/#debian mack (~mack_121@vmd25044.contaboserver.net) |
| 01:17.30 | *** join/#debian mack121_ (~mack_121@vmd25044.contaboserver.net) |
| 01:17.44 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:18.51 | *** join/#debian DeadTOm (~deadtom@2001:4b98:dc0:41:216:3eff:fe58:44d0) |
| 01:18.59 | *** join/#debian jjmonrod (~jjmonrod@2a02:8108:4b40:4a5c:cc2:e239:d035:e932) |
| 01:19.36 | *** join/#debian lessless (~lessless@171.250.185.0) |
| 01:20.44 | *** join/#debian olafout (~chloubs@5-49-68-38.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 01:21.20 | *** join/#debian hkumar006c (~hkumar006@103.5.134.167) |
| 01:22.04 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 01:22.50 | *** join/#debian mylinux (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:26.21 | *** join/#debian hbautista (~hbautista@189.201.191.13) |
| 01:27.45 | *** join/#debian kryptopraxis (~krypto_pr@p200300C853CAAB004134110D5193557C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:29.50 | *** join/#debian styles_ (~styles@c-73-169-49-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:29.54 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (NEOalquimi@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/neoalquimista) |
| 01:37.20 | *** join/#debian detectiveaoi (~detective@2601:cf:300:420b:a50a:9766:5d02:a61a) |
| 01:39.07 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~jareth_@2001:980:e1c0:1:219:66ff:fea0:a502) |
| 01:45.04 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.151.216) |
| 01:45.21 | *** join/#debian argus- (~online@177.41.153.6.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 01:45.31 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:46.41 | *** join/#debian id4rk (~id4rk@reactos/tester/id4rk) |
| 01:47.56 | *** join/#debian netsnail (~netsnail@59.61.91.218) |
| 01:48.12 | *** join/#debian mack121 (Elite21493@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-ykpktmyydhvempwv) |
| 01:48.16 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 01:50.06 | *** join/#debian Krennic (~Krennic@unaffiliated/krennic) |
| 01:50.08 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-169-84-246.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 01:51.51 | *** join/#debian Al_lA (~derwhalfi@118.148.117.22) |
| 01:52.52 | *** join/#debian paraxial (~paraxial@cpc111117-wiga14-2-0-cust1368.18-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 01:53.16 | *** join/#debian kus_ (~kus@pool-96-234-34-194.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:58.53 | *** join/#debian JakeSqPants (~Jake@118.131.203.133) |
| 01:59.04 | *** join/#debian fartface (~RichardSh@s207-81-95-4.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
| 02:01.28 | fartface | This is likely a stupid question, but I've got a server that's booting off a relatively big ZFS pool right now. I want to reinstall the OS to an SSD array, but when I finished the install, grub is still booting from the zfs pool |
| 02:01.52 | fartface | Can I remove grub from the ZFS pool before rebooting into the installer? |
| 02:03.48 | *** join/#debian mylinux_ (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 02:04.06 | *** join/#debian baruch_spinoza (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 02:07.46 | *** join/#debian tech10171968 (uid287111@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vkqzrjpogyyqwyqk) |
| 02:07.47 | *** join/#debian [b0b] (~bob@unaffiliated/sulfyr) |
| 02:09.46 | tech10171968 | Anybody been hit with the systemd bug that halts the boot process? |
| 02:10.06 | annadane | tech10171968, which branch of debian? stable? |
| 02:10.19 | *** join/#debian Krennic (~Krennic@unaffiliated/krennic) |
| 02:10.21 | tech10171968 | Experimental |
| 02:10.32 | annadane | ...you're using systemd from EXPERIMENTAL? |
| 02:10.35 | *** join/#debian mib_jsc3ip (~ad5dcc54@102.156.120.107) |
| 02:10.55 | annadane | are you at least using unstable as your main debian? |
| 02:10.56 | tech10171968 | Never happened before after 5 years |
| 02:11.08 | annadane | anyway, |
| 02:11.11 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 02:11.11 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 02:11.21 | *** join/#debian deicide-- (~deicide-@unaffiliated/deicide-) |
| 02:12.11 | *** part/#debian tech10171968 (uid287111@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vkqzrjpogyyqwyqk) |
| 02:12.30 | annadane | ,v systemd |
| 02:12.32 | judd | Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 230-7~bpo8+2; stretch: 232-25+deb9u2; stretch-backports: 237-3~bpo9+1; buster: 237-4; sid: 238-2 |
| 02:12.40 | annadane | yeah as i thought, it's not even in experimental |
| 02:13.33 | *** join/#debian baruch_spinoza (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 02:13.45 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@rrcs-72-43-170-99.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 02:15.28 | *** join/#debian Akufen (~Akufen@unaffiliated/akufen) |
| 02:15.32 | *** join/#debian sidmo_ (~ilven@p5B3D8B98.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:15.37 | *** join/#debian baruch_spinoza (~otazoyney@177.41.2.38) |
| 02:17.47 | *** join/#debian darkhanb (~textual@ip68-224-95-5.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 02:18.00 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-133-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 02:18.07 | *** join/#debian brunogiordano (~otazoyney@187.113.172.207) |
| 02:19.09 | *** join/#debian sh00p (~z@84-216-39-31.customers.ownit.se) |
| 02:19.18 | *** join/#debian Tom-_ (~tomg@98-159-244-102.agas1a-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 02:19.22 | *** join/#debian brunogiordano (~otazoyney@187.113.172.207) |
| 02:20.32 | *** join/#debian jarlaxl (~jarlaxl@user123.intek.cz) |
| 02:20.53 | *** join/#debian brunogiordano (~otazoyney@187.113.172.207) |
| 02:22.09 | *** join/#debian dinoocch (~dinoocch@cvgateway.utdallas.edu) |
| 02:22.33 | *** join/#debian chrios (~chris@144.48.36.28) |
| 02:25.12 | *** join/#debian Guest62617 (~styles@73.169.49.110) |
| 02:28.04 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 02:28.39 | *** join/#debian annadane (~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-146.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 02:29.18 | *** join/#debian descuidado (~descuidad@190.175.120.37) |
| 02:31.25 | descuidado | hi im using debian with gnome, and im removing some software bundled with gnome that i dont need, however i have some doubts related to it, because when i try to purge (for example) "gnome-weather" it also tries to remove the package "gnome*" |
| 02:31.30 | descuidado | what does that mean? |
| 02:31.43 | *** join/#debian tec__ (~aegis@mm.sixtopia.net) |
| 02:35.13 | *** join/#debian Syndicate2090 (~Syndicate@ip68-231-27-166.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:35.35 | *** join/#debian mahe (~mahe@p4FFBBF45.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:35.48 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 02:36.33 | asterismo_l | can someone help me with a raid setup? |
| 02:37.38 | annadane | asterismo_l, only if you ask your question............. |
| 02:37.42 | annadane | !someone |
| 02:37.42 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 02:38.07 | annadane | descuidado, yeah, that's the problem with metapackages. what you can do is apt-mark manual the things you want to keep |
| 02:38.31 | descuidado | annadane: why is it a "problem"? |
| 02:38.48 | descuidado | also, i'll check the manpage to look at the option for marking |
| 02:38.49 | annadane | well, it's a problem if you want to remove things installed as part of a metapackage |
| 02:39.20 | annadane | thus some people to install gnome will probably not select a desktop environment as part of the install and install only gdm and build in what they want on top of it |
| 02:39.26 | asterismo_l | i have a raid1 setup with 500gb disks. one of them failed so i got new 2 1tb drives and the aim was to replace one at the time, and if possible, enlarge the encrypted LVM to fill 1tb all without restart the server |
| 02:39.55 | asterismo_l | vlt helped me and we managed to write down a series of steps here |
| 02:40.09 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014420/ |
| 02:40.15 | *** join/#debian enki (~enki@dynamic-78-30-165-161.adsl.eunet.rs) |
| 02:40.16 | descuidado | annadane: personally i just like gnome. |
| 02:40.31 | annadane | well, gdm will install the gnome window manager |
| 02:40.40 | annadane | and you can install the applications you want later |
| 02:40.42 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:40.46 | asterismo_l | i'm unable to complete the steps at line 25 |
| 02:40.51 | annadane | (this avoids things like games which come with the debian gnome install) |
| 02:41.11 | descuidado | annadane: i understand now, thank you |
| 02:41.17 | descuidado | <3 |
| 02:41.32 | *** join/#debian handsome_feng (~feng@218.76.23.26) |
| 02:42.05 | annadane | (at least i think gdm is the window manager. i don't use gnome) |
| 02:42.32 | descuidado | annadane: isnt it just the display manager? |
| 02:42.48 | descuidado | i think its gnome-shell what you're talking about, or im just saying dumb things |
| 02:43.26 | annadane | that probably sounds right |
| 02:43.48 | descuidado | annadane: anyhow, i would have done a super clean install, if only i knew better, i've tested on a virtual machine before installing debian on a partition, but couldnt find a way to make my wifi adapter work. |
| 02:43.53 | *** join/#debian deicide- (~deicide-@unaffiliated/deicide-) |
| 02:44.00 | asterismo_l | i could not grow the partition to fill 1tb |
| 02:45.02 | annadane | oh, gdm3 is the login prompt apparently. gnome-shell is the actual window manager thingy |
| 02:45.09 | descuidado | annadane: hehe |
| 02:45.50 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi (~quassel@222.209.158.183) |
| 02:45.54 | asterismo_l | anyone? |
| 02:46.33 | *** join/#debian zphds (~sudharsh@unaffiliated/sudharsh) |
| 02:47.34 | *** join/#debian supsss (~qwebirc@102.156.120.107) |
| 02:48.54 | *** join/#debian Guest58303 (~e@102.156.120.107) |
| 02:50.10 | *** join/#debian descuidado (~descuidad@190.175.120.37) |
| 02:52.03 | asterismo_l | annadane, any ideas? |
| 02:52.15 | annadane | sorry, i know nothing about raid |
| 02:52.49 | *** join/#debian rpifan (~rpifan@2600:1:d112:55da:19bd:a013:acf4:d2de) |
| 02:53.35 | *** join/#debian Phah11 (~Phah1@p54BA7691.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:53.53 | descuidado | me neither, i keep reading the word in many places though |
| 02:53.55 | descuidado | :o |
| 02:54.55 | *** join/#debian ircvit174317 (~null@108.177.6.55) |
| 02:58.06 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@98.210.76.223) |
| 03:00.31 | descuidado | wait what the hell, so im checking that packages i have installed, you know because i use gnome, however, none of the 3 options the debian wiki provides are installed, im aboslutely confused |
| 03:00.44 | descuidado | sorry, i meant to say "what packages" |
| 03:01.06 | descuidado | im pretty certain i did a fresh install with recommended debian software |
| 03:01.07 | *** join/#debian JerryXiao (~JerryXiao@47.52.147.189) |
| 03:01.22 | annadane | if this is gnome from the installer it's probably gnome-tasksel or something |
| 03:01.31 | annadane | (i made that up but it's the right general idea) |
| 03:01.49 | descuidado | should be task-gnome-desktop |
| 03:01.55 | annadane | yeah |
| 03:01.55 | descuidado | but doesnt show up as installed |
| 03:02.07 | annadane | hm. dunno. |
| 03:02.16 | *** join/#debian kryptopraxis (~krypto_pr@p200300C853CAD5004134110D5193557C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:02.48 | descuidado | perhaps if i uninstall something that it comes bundled with, then the package marks as "not installed"? |
| 03:02.54 | descuidado | i was thinking that might be the answer |
| 03:04.15 | annadane | i will not comment because i know nothing about gnome unfortunately |
| 03:04.30 | annadane | as evidenced by gdm3 and gnome-shell :P |
| 03:04.33 | descuidado | this is so strange |
| 03:04.50 | *** join/#debian mikejonez (~mj@102.156.120.107) |
| 03:04.54 | descuidado | okay, im gonna test something |
| 03:05.21 | *** join/#debian password16 (~password@unaffiliated/password2) |
| 03:06.34 | *** join/#debian t0no6a (~t0no6a@201.119.224.220) |
| 03:06.59 | *** join/#debian fightthewalrus (~user@223.62.178.73) |
| 03:07.21 | *** join/#debian bels19 (~bels19@102.156.120.107) |
| 03:07.57 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 03:08.04 | *** join/#debian r0Oter (~r00ter@p5DDF1E74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:09.06 | descuidado | annadane: ok so it is like i thought, remember when you said one could do a clean install without bundled stuff? its kinda like that, if you got "gnome-core" which is that the name implies, just the basic stuff, and uninstall idk, lets say something that comes with it, like gnome-contacts, then the "gnome-core" will be marked as not installed |
| 03:09.44 | descuidado | man i love how one is able to know that everything depends on something (as in, programs) |
| 03:09.46 | annadane | interesting. i'm not sure why that is. maybe gnome does it differently |
| 03:10.07 | *** join/#debian zophyx (~zophyx@2600:1011:b11f:d22a:94d:da4f:5fc0:dc86) |
| 03:10.07 | descuidado | annadane: what do you mean? |
| 03:10.24 | *** join/#debian id4rk_ (~id4rk@reactos/tester/id4rk) |
| 03:10.35 | annadane | well, maybe their packages have different flags, or something. i don't know enough about it to comment |
| 03:11.08 | descuidado | annadane: am i correct if i assume you use either xfce or kde? |
| 03:11.32 | *** join/#debian Natsume (~Natsume@102.156.120.107) |
| 03:11.37 | annadane | xfce and mate, interchangeably |
| 03:11.52 | descuidado | mate is too green-ish for my taste |
| 03:12.25 | *** join/#debian bluequijote (~califito@73.96.114.223) |
| 03:12.44 | *** join/#debian Scoutmaster (~David@102.156.120.107) |
| 03:12.45 | *** join/#debian loonquawl (~loonquawl@74-195-164-161.hwkncmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 03:13.01 | awal1 | descuido, check gnome description aptitude show gnome |
| 03:13.18 | descuidado | time to install aptitude |
| 03:13.37 | awal1 | verify dependencies and reverse ones |
| 03:13.52 | descuidado | why are you telling me this awal? |
| 03:14.00 | descuidado | have i done something dangerous? |
| 03:14.50 | *** join/#debian mcint (mcint@unaffiliated/mcint) |
| 03:15.07 | awal1 | gnome is a metapkg and inter-dependency is complex |
| 03:15.16 | *** join/#debian banc (~master@82.145.37.203) |
| 03:16.09 | descuidado | how so? i mean, how complex? also how can i check suggested packages for a package? |
| 03:16.20 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@cpc122086-bmly10-2-0-cust783.2-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 03:16.21 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@unaffiliated/tyranny12) |
| 03:16.34 | awal1 | apt show pkgname |
| 03:16.38 | awal1 | easy way |
| 03:16.42 | descuidado | thank you |
| 03:16.50 | descuidado | ok so im looking at the pkg gnome |
| 03:17.03 | descuidado | and i noticed that it depends on a bunch of stuff |
| 03:17.06 | awal1 | people runing gnome just run gnome, as it is , a full DE |
| 03:17.17 | descuidado | is that bad? |
| 03:17.41 | awal1 | if you want check gnome core and other gnome components |
| 03:17.46 | *** join/#debian chachasmooth_ (~chachasmo@unaffiliated/chachasmooth) |
| 03:17.48 | annadane | if it depends on a bunch of stuff you didn't have it would have installed those things |
| 03:18.03 | annadane | i'm not sure what you mean by bad |
| 03:18.21 | descuidado | i mean... if i installed something it depends on, is that bad? |
| 03:18.25 | descuidado | uninstalled* |
| 03:18.25 | annadane | no |
| 03:18.29 | awal1 | descuido, what is your goal? |
| 03:18.29 | annadane | oh, well |
| 03:18.46 | descuidado | i just want to make sure i can remove any package but the CORE with safety that the system wont rbeak |
| 03:18.51 | descuidado | or at least, gnome |
| 03:18.58 | annadane | right, sorry, lost track of the context |
| 03:19.30 | *** join/#debian ranzp (~anon@p5088A560.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:19.51 | awal1 | apt rdepends gnome |
| 03:20.05 | *** join/#debian harish__ (~hkumar006@2a07:241:1:4000::d25) |
| 03:20.40 | descuidado | apt? |
| 03:20.50 | descuidado | really? |
| 03:20.54 | *** join/#debian N3V3RM1^D (~Thunderbi@43.227.129.243) |
| 03:21.56 | *** join/#debian tw3k (~forest@104-7-18-104.lightspeed.lnngmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:23.00 | awal1 | or use apt-cache |
| 03:23.09 | awal1 | or apt-rdepends |
| 03:24.36 | descuidado | ok so apparently, i shouldnt be doing this, because it might cause some bug since gnome/task-gnome-desktop depends on packages |
| 03:24.43 | descuidado | however there's ways for this to work |
| 03:24.48 | descuidado | but i'll have ot check it out |
| 03:24.57 | descuidado | in the meantime |
| 03:25.02 | descuidado | i'll reinstall all i removed |
| 03:25.33 | annadane | you don't _have to_ remove things it tells you it's going to remove, for future reference :P |
| 03:25.46 | awal1 | i still don't understand your goal with gnome |
| 03:25.51 | annadane | this is why apt tells you beforehand so you have the chance to say no |
| 03:25.54 | awal1 | gnome is a metapkg |
| 03:26.17 | descuidado | i just dont want to remove anything it depends on until im able to sort it out myself |
| 03:26.31 | awal1 | aptitude search '~i~sgnome' |
| 03:27.38 | awal1 | and play with apt-mark |
| 03:27.56 | awal1 | that will be a pain |
| 03:28.00 | *** join/#debian Haxxa (~Harrison@180-150-30-18.NBN.mel.aussiebb.net) |
| 03:28.29 | awal1 | my suggestion is just keep your gnome as it is by default |
| 03:28.45 | descuidado | oh god |
| 03:28.57 | descuidado | ok can you explain what does ~i~s mean? |
| 03:29.01 | *** join/#debian detectiveaoi (~detective@2601:cf:300:420b:a50a:9766:5d02:a61a) |
| 03:29.08 | descuidado | also, why will it be? |
| 03:29.20 | awal1 | or purge it completely and reintall just what you really need |
| 03:29.46 | awal1 | ~i installed ~s section |
| 03:29.46 | apt | You installed ~s section? |
| 03:29.55 | descuidado | how can i purge it while inside it |
| 03:30.06 | descuidado | lol |
| 03:30.19 | awal1 | you are asking aptitude to list all pkg from gnome section installed in your machine |
| 03:30.53 | awal1 | just keep it |
| 03:30.56 | awal1 | :P |
| 03:32.00 | descuidado | suddenly everything seems like a big issue haha |
| 03:32.16 | descuidado | kinda makes me hate gnome, but this is just me hahaha |
| 03:32.22 | descuidado | its not a ngome issue |
| 03:33.00 | annadane | you have only just begun your long journey to complete gnome hatred |
| 03:33.10 | dvs | yay |
| 03:34.14 | descuidado | lmao |
| 03:34.26 | awal1 | descuido, gnome is a nice, mature and an advanced desktop environment. use it if you like it, or use another de/wm if you dont like |
| 03:34.33 | descuidado | i literally just installed debian |
| 03:34.44 | descuidado | god this is so funny |
| 03:35.15 | *** join/#debian DaPinkOne (~pi@cpe-45-37-148-94.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:35.31 | awal1 | google what metapkg mean and what gnome is than you'll start understanding |
| 03:36.08 | descuidado | awal1, i've tested xfce and KDE and tbh i dont care about customization, i just want stuff to work out of the box, also KDE feels way more bloated than gnome, and xfce looks boring, gnome is the only one i could be comfortable with |
| 03:36.35 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@221.4.35.244) |
| 03:36.45 | awal1 | something that just works? go for xfce |
| 03:37.40 | awal1 | light, customizable and conservative(=stable) |
| 03:38.19 | DaPinkOne | i'm ssh-d in, trying to use byobu on my home system(arch), from my laptop(debian), and i'm getting this strange display: https://i.imgur.com/CXWRjAT.png my google-fu is failing me. Does anybody know what this is? |
| 03:38.20 | annadane | anyway, either apt-mark manual what you want to keep or leave things as is or reinstall without a desktop and install gnome-core and do it piecemeal |
| 03:38.32 | *** join/#debian detectiveaoi (~detective@2601:cf:300:420b:a50a:9766:5d02:a61a) |
| 03:38.41 | annadane | or give up debian, move to the mountains, and spend the rest of your day trying to solve the reimann hypothesis |
| 03:38.48 | descuidado | lmao |
| 03:38.57 | *** join/#debian CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@107-215-134-60.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:39.43 | descuidado | oh i'll take years trying to even learn the concept of that by myself |
| 03:41.14 | *** join/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 03:42.32 | *** join/#debian jfmcarreira (~jfmcarrei@2001:8a0:f2a3:bb01:ba27:ebff:fe3b:de74) |
| 03:42.32 | *** join/#debian jfmcarreira (~jfmcarrei@unaffiliated/jfmcarreira) |
| 03:47.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1508] by debhelper |
| 03:59.37 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~jareth_@2001:980:e1c0:1:219:66ff:fea0:a502) |
| 03:59.44 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@221.4.35.244) |
| 03:59.44 | *** join/#debian thnee (~thnee@h-144-199.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 03:59.51 | *** join/#debian bestwin (~kvirc@178.46.162.61) |
| 04:01.13 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 04:04.04 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@unaffiliated/soulz) |
| 04:04.07 | *** join/#debian Jareddanton (8e1c0c02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.28.12.2) |
| 04:04.21 | Jareddanton | join #hi |
| 04:05.31 | *** part/#debian Jareddanton (8e1c0c02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.28.12.2) |
| 04:05.38 | rpifan | no |
| 04:06.36 | *** join/#debian HTYFLPAlexPietz (~HTYFLPAle@116.58.240.64) |
| 04:08.04 | *** join/#debian kion (~kion@unaffiliated/kion) |
| 04:08.09 | *** join/#debian scrabblecrea (~scrabble_@102.156.120.107) |
| 04:08.11 | *** join/#debian digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@2600:380:6439:6394:f4f8:c5a2:6487:c40f) |
| 04:09.35 | kion | I bought a 2TB external HD and just formated it as ext4 and created a partition with all the size. now when I conect the USB cable my computer reads the disk but somehow has assigned the permissions for root only so I can not use the disk |
| 04:09.40 | *** join/#debian ryouma (~user@unaffiliated/ryouma) |
| 04:09.45 | kion | how can I change the disk's permissions? |
| 04:10.09 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@ZN019117.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 04:10.17 | *** join/#debian digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@2600:380:6439:6394:f4f8:c5a2:6487:c40f) |
| 04:11.35 | kion | sorry sudo chmod... did it |
| 04:11.43 | kion | chown |
| 04:11.49 | kion | and chgrp |
| 04:13.33 | *** join/#debian U039bW8LY4W (~U039bW8LY@ppp-171-97-0-90.revip8.asianet.co.th) |
| 04:15.07 | *** join/#debian chan201 (~quassel@183.82.124.164) |
| 04:15.24 | *** join/#debian Rokixz (~rokas@5.199.160.9) |
| 04:15.29 | *** join/#debian AfroThundr (~AfroThund@173-15-183-146-BusName-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 04:15.36 | *** join/#debian Arroyo1010 (~Arroyo101@unaffiliated/arroyo1010) |
| 04:16.23 | *** join/#debian [Gort] (~gort@unaffiliated/gort/x-9231432) |
| 04:16.41 | *** join/#debian kooldavi (~kooldavi@p4FD9E3E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:17.39 | *** join/#debian rofl_ (rofl@2601:441:8680:4631:20b3:fc15:12c5:30d8) |
| 04:18.10 | *** join/#debian Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 04:18.26 | *** join/#debian AfroThundr (~AfroThund@173-15-183-146-BusName-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 04:20.43 | *** join/#debian dowwie (~dowwie@104.129.29.93) |
| 04:20.44 | *** join/#debian dowwie (~dowwie@unaffiliated/dowwie) |
| 04:26.50 | *** join/#debian rpifan (~rpifan@2600:1:d112:55da:19bd:a013:acf4:d2de) |
| 04:27.26 | *** join/#debian Satsuki (~Satsuki@102.156.193.245) |
| 04:34.15 | *** join/#debian patterson (patterson@98.210.76.223) |
| 04:34.27 | *** join/#debian boturk (boturk@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/boturk) |
| 04:34.45 | *** join/#debian chan201 (~quassel@183.82.124.164) |
| 04:39.46 | *** join/#debian bestwin (~bestwin@178.46.162.61) |
| 04:42.02 | *** join/#debian llucenic (~Thunderbi@rev-185-22-215-103.radiolan.sk) |
| 04:42.48 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dgzdhzwgzsihzecx) |
| 04:44.11 | *** join/#debian sibyakin (~sibyakin@83.234.69.145) |
| 04:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1500] by debhelper |
| 04:48.36 | *** join/#debian digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@2600:380:6439:6394:ed7f:258a:5b51:a3b3) |
| 04:49.01 | *** join/#debian NOTAFADS (~notafad@38.132.124.43) |
| 04:49.14 | *** join/#debian sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@cpe-75-82-22-197.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:49.20 | *** part/#debian NOTAFADS (~notafad@38.132.124.43) |
| 04:52.12 | *** join/#debian sanity_check (c5ddfb04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.197.221.251.4) |
| 04:52.32 | *** join/#debian Moose_ (~digitalno@2600:380:6853:69e4:a7:1e7c:e55a:eb55) |
| 04:54.03 | *** join/#debian Raed|Laptop (~Raed@2601:18c:8601:c7e9:262:406e:319c:7768) |
| 04:56.41 | *** join/#debian Emmanuel_Chanel (~emmanuel@ZN019117.ppp.dion.ne.jp) |
| 04:58.40 | *** join/#debian sekizo (~schizo@unaffiliated/sekizo) |
| 05:00.21 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i577B2523.versanet.de) |
| 05:00.58 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@unaffiliated/bnw) |
| 05:06.25 | *** join/#debian uprime (thurin@thurin.org) |
| 05:07.40 | *** join/#debian imMute (~immute@about/networking/240.255.255.0/imMute) |
| 05:07.52 | *** join/#debian cruxeternus (~cruxetern@secspeed.com) |
| 05:08.35 | *** join/#debian mylinux (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 05:09.20 | *** join/#debian jgornick (jgornick@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:72b4) |
| 05:12.43 | *** join/#debian ledeni (~ledeni@c210-49-84-69.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:14.51 | *** join/#debian allizom (~Thunderbi@host213-28-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 05:19.39 | *** join/#debian siraben` (~user@49.230.228.141) |
| 05:20.26 | *** join/#debian skipshooter (~markie@ool-457e6ee0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:20.57 | *** join/#debian saurabh_londhe (~Saurabh@210.212.171.169) |
| 05:31.21 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-15-19.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 05:31.45 | *** join/#debian adminewb (617f17ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.127.23.239) |
| 05:34.42 | *** join/#debian Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93) |
| 05:37.10 | *** join/#debian michaelni (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 05:37.21 | *** join/#debian kallesbar (~kallesbar@192.130.252.28) |
| 05:37.24 | *** join/#debian sibyakin (~sibyakin@83.234.69.145) |
| 05:37.27 | *** join/#debian Malinux (~malin@unaffiliated/malin/x-8072090) |
| 05:39.12 | adminewb | !#debian-next |
| 05:39.12 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 05:47.19 | adminewb | how does one properly refer to the virtual terminals selected by <ctrl><alt>F1 ... F6 or so? or graphical sessions upwards of that? |
| 05:48.14 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 05:48.53 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 05:49.30 | *** join/#debian kallesbar (~kallesbar@192.130.252.28) |
| 05:50.45 | *** join/#debian z8z (~x@ac212170.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) |
| 05:54.38 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 05:58.54 | *** join/#debian grandfso (~quassel@185.180.205.67) |
| 06:03.09 | *** join/#debian UUID02 (~UUID00@BSN-142-194-111.static.siol.net) |
| 06:05.23 | *** join/#debian galex-713_ (~galex-713@91.161.83.46) |
| 06:08.43 | *** join/#debian lessless (~lessless@171.250.185.0) |
| 06:09.04 | *** join/#debian sumyunseal (~sumyunsea@cpe-75-82-22-197.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:12.49 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian sauvin_ (sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 06:14.58 | vlt | asterismo_l: Back for 15 minutes, then again at 09:45 UTC |
| 06:15.21 | *** join/#debian donofrio_ (~donofrio@host-232.subnet-17.med.umich.edu) |
| 06:15.57 | *** join/#debian Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@unaffiliated/obi-wan) |
| 06:16.24 | *** join/#debian fightthewalrus (~user@223.62.178.73) |
| 06:16.43 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@m80-170-134-42.cust.tele2.se) |
| 06:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1508] by debhelper |
| 06:17.25 | vlt | asterismo_l: You shouldn't need to grow a partition, you created them equally sized by copying the partition layout from sdc to sda. Did you tell the kernel successfully to re-read that? |
| 06:17.49 | vlt | asterismo_l: `sfdisk -R /dev/sda` |
| 06:20.47 | *** join/#debian OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@117.194.197.107) |
| 06:22.33 | *** join/#debian foggy0400 (~billy@203.15.60.41) |
| 06:23.00 | *** join/#debian saurabhlondhe_ (~Saurabh@210.212.171.169) |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian jham (~lynucs@unaffiliated/jham) |
| 06:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1502] by debhelper |
| 06:27.04 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 06:28.29 | *** join/#debian CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@107-215-134-60.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:31.01 | *** join/#debian saurabhlondhe__ (~Saurabh@210.212.171.169) |
| 06:31.03 | *** join/#debian siraben` (~user@cm-119-76-34-222.revip17.asianet.co.th) |
| 06:31.09 | *** join/#debian himcesjf_ (~cesjf@unaffiliated/himcesjf) |
| 06:34.29 | *** join/#debian kardborren (~weechat@ua-83-227-218-4.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:35.02 | *** join/#debian yuyueshihaoren (~Thunderbi@71.58.92.220) |
| 06:35.54 | *** part/#debian yuyueshihaoren (~Thunderbi@71.58.92.220) |
| 06:39.12 | *** join/#debian super_gollum (~ich@ip-62-143-191-65.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 06:45.26 | *** join/#debian upbeta (~upbeta@122.53.139.100) |
| 06:49.00 | *** join/#debian Obi-Wan (~obi-wan@unaffiliated/obi-wan) |
| 06:52.37 | *** join/#debian Guest93156 (~quassel@178.115.237.87) |
| 06:57.12 | *** join/#debian Al_lA (~derwhalfi@103.21.255.123.dynamic.snap.net.nz) |
| 06:57.46 | *** join/#debian adoua (~adoua@unaffiliated/adoua) |
| 06:58.04 | *** join/#debian chele (~chele@2a02:8106:1:f900:faca:b8ff:fe2f:8499) |
| 06:58.56 | *** join/#debian Elirips (~Elirips@242.109.22.178.ftth.as8758.net) |
| 07:02.52 | *** join/#debian allan_wind (~allan@lifeintegrity.com) |
| 07:03.07 | *** join/#debian nnull (~nnull@unaffiliated/nnull) |
| 07:03.57 | *** join/#debian shakraw (~shakraw@host234-224-static.7-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:04.22 | allan_wind | I had a failed systemd service (usb drive was ripped out without unmounting). This resulted in a failed service which I fixed with systemctl reset-failed. systemd, however, is still logging timed out errors every 20 minutes or so. Any idea on to fix this before I resort to rebooting the box? |
| 07:04.24 | *** join/#debian mibo (~mibo@ip-89-102-117-175.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 07:05.07 | allan_wind | (dev-disk-by\... /start timed out) |
| 07:05.35 | asterismo_l | vlt, i think i wrongly created partitions with cfdisk, used gpt instead dos, so further steps maybe went wrong. also sfdisk -d ... did not reproduced the partition layout to sda. I'm cloning sdc to sda with dd as suggested in sfdisk command, and will try to reach you later for new ideas for fixing it. |
| 07:05.36 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.233.79) |
| 07:06.20 | vlt | asterismo_l: Cloning the first few kB should be enough. |
| 07:06.31 | *** join/#debian siraben (~user@cm-119-76-34-222.revip17.asianet.co.th) |
| 07:06.34 | vlt | asterismo_l: It's important to tell the kernel about hte new disk layout. |
| 07:07.03 | somiaj | allan_wind: what exactly is timing out? Does the mount still exist, have you tried to force unmount the location? |
| 07:07.04 | vlt | asterismo_l: Cloning: `head -c 1m /dev/sdc > /dev/sda` |
| 07:07.34 | vlt | asterismo_l: Reloading: `sfdisk -R /dev/sda` |
| 07:07.41 | somiaj | I didn't think cfdisk did gpt, don't you need gparted for that? |
| 07:07.43 | somiaj | or just parted? |
| 07:07.48 | vlt | asterismo_l: Make sure that works. |
| 07:08.28 | allan_wind | somiaj: mount doesn't exist. |
| 07:08.33 | vlt | asterismo_l: You could have a second shell session with a running `journalctl -f` to see what's actually happening. |
| 07:08.54 | allan_wind | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/1014437/ (usb drive is part of my keyboard hence name of mount point) |
| 07:09.23 | *** join/#debian willemb (~willemb@vpn-router1.dur1.host-h.net) |
| 07:09.30 | *** join/#debian pyface (~pyface@about/security/contributor/pyface) |
| 07:09.50 | somiaj | unsure what could be needing that, any reason why you want to avoid rebooting? |
| 07:09.56 | *** join/#debian jerdef82 (~jerdef@213.219.145.55.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) |
| 07:10.23 | allan_wind | somiaj: I don't like to admit defeat ;-) |
| 07:10.40 | willemb | Hi. I am running debian Jessie with systemd from backports. On a couple of servers where I have a systemd unit file for a unicorn process, systemd always thinks that the unit file has changed on disk, and reccommends a daemon-reload, even after I do what it suggests. what gives? |
| 07:10.45 | vlt | asterismo_l: Using gpt shouldn't be much of a problem. But if you want you can use cfdisk to create new ones, --add them to the raid, let it sync, then remove sdc from the raids (plural) and reformat that as well with dos partitions. |
| 07:11.25 | *** join/#debian gagrio (~gagrio@ip-62-245-105-188.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 07:14.59 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (chris@2001:470:4b:38f:777::868c) |
| 07:15.58 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@pc165.iip.kth.se) |
| 07:21.06 | *** part/#debian distriCt9 (Slumlord_@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hryllcnsavvkqiwy) |
| 07:22.05 | dx_ob | ,v mesa |
| 07:22.07 | judd | No package named 'mesa' was found in amd64. |
| 07:22.22 | dx_ob | ,v libmesa |
| 07:22.23 | judd | No package named 'libmesa' was found in amd64. |
| 07:23.04 | *** join/#debian distriCt9 (Slumlord_@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hryllcnsavvkqiwy) |
| 07:23.16 | somiaj | dx_ob: what are you looking for? you can also /msg the bot |
| 07:23.45 | *** join/#debian zamuro (~Samantha@5.red-88-24-225.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:23.45 | *** join/#debian zamuro (~Samantha@unaffiliated/zamuro) |
| 07:24.01 | *** join/#debian conta (~Thunderbi@94.112.251.98.static.b2b.upcbusiness.cz) |
| 07:24.02 | dx_ob | somiaj: im looking for the mesa version in stretch |
| 07:24.09 | *** part/#debian distriCt9 (Slumlord_@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hryllcnsavvkqiwy) |
| 07:24.42 | somiaj | ,v libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 07:24.43 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-glx on amd64 -- wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; buster: 17.3.6-1; sid: 17.3.6-1; experimental: 18.0.0~rc4-1 |
| 07:24.54 | *** join/#debian Slumlord_ (Slumlord_@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hryllcnsavvkqiwy) |
| 07:24.59 | *** join/#debian conta (~Thunderbi@94.112.251.98.static.b2b.upcbusiness.cz) |
| 07:25.01 | somiaj | dx_ob: you can do things like packages.debian.org/mesa or otehr ways to start searchign package names if you don't kow the package name. |
| 07:25.13 | dx_ob | yeah i know |
| 07:25.19 | dx_ob | trying the easy way :P |
| 07:25.47 | *** join/#debian abba (~abba@46.189.77.18) |
| 07:28.32 | *** join/#debian lessless (~lessless@171.250.185.0) |
| 07:31.36 | *** join/#debian HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@212.3.196.1) |
| 07:31.37 | *** part/#debian Slumlord_ (Slumlord_@gateway/shell/panicbnc/x-hryllcnsavvkqiwy) |
| 07:31.54 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 07:33.54 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@aftr-88-217-180-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 07:34.57 | *** part/#debian lang (~lang@athena.hestdesign.com) |
| 07:35.25 | *** join/#debian martybr (~martybr@smtp.devzero.nl) |
| 07:35.25 | jcarpenter2 | when i start a service from /etc/init.d where does it log to? |
| 07:35.27 | *** join/#debian sliekas99 (~mantas@213.164.98.77) |
| 07:35.42 | jcarpenter2 | is that determined by a system-wide setting across all services, or do they each choose where logs go to? |
| 07:35.55 | somiaj | jcarpenter2: depends on the script, if you used systemd you would get a bit better logging |
| 07:36.23 | somiaj | though most init.d scripts are ran though systemd these days on debian. |
| 07:36.44 | jcarpenter2 | hm |
| 07:36.52 | *** join/#debian nick20 (~nick20@145.15.244.31) |
| 07:36.58 | jcarpenter2 | i'm looking for lxc-net logs, because as soon as i started it exits |
| 07:37.00 | *** join/#debian gagrio (~gagrio@ip-62-245-105-188.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 07:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1508] by debhelper |
| 07:37.32 | somiaj | does it have a systemd service? any reason why you are trying to run the init.d script directly? What is the name of the init.d script? |
| 07:37.40 | jcarpenter2 | it's /etc/init.d/lxc-net |
| 07:37.47 | somiaj | try systemctl status lxc-net |
| 07:37.50 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@aftr-88-217-180-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 07:37.52 | jcarpenter2 | i was doing that out of habit, i don't know much about init systems |
| 07:37.54 | somiaj | systemd should create or have a unit by that name. |
| 07:38.03 | jcarpenter2 | it does |
| 07:38.08 | *** join/#debian Nefertiti (~Nefertiti@unaffiliated/nefertiti) |
| 07:38.18 | jcarpenter2 | it says exited |
| 07:38.44 | jcarpenter2 | there's got to be a place where it logs the failure reason |
| 07:38.53 | somiaj | systemctl status lxc-net should show some output, if you don't have enough lines systemctl status -n 100 lxc-net, journalctl can also be used to get logs on paticular sercvices. |
| 07:39.36 | somiaj | it should have been logged in that command, if you aren't seeing anything, the service maynot be giving any output either to stdout or stderr (systemd should be capturing both) |
| 07:39.51 | jcarpenter2 | hmm |
| 07:40.02 | jcarpenter2 | systemctl status -n 100 lxc-net shows the same output as without -n 100 |
| 07:40.06 | somiaj | what is the full output of 'systemctl status lxc-net' |
| 07:40.21 | jcarpenter2 | let me grab it |
| 07:40.27 | *** join/#debian JustASlacker (~JustASlac@p548B58C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:40.29 | jcarpenter2 | copy/paste doesn't work from inside my virtual machine |
| 07:40.56 | somiaj | what method of vm are you using? There is also pastbinit, or command > text.file then copy the text.file voer |
| 07:41.24 | *** join/#debian Eljotto (~Eljotto@b941c009.business.dg-w.de) |
| 07:41.45 | jcarpenter2 | https://pastebin.com/raw/zVFccWGV |
| 07:41.49 | *** join/#debian __marco (~marco@mail10.muller.eu.com) |
| 07:41.52 | somiaj | !pastebin |
| 07:41.52 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 07:42.05 | *** join/#debian sudheendra (~sudheendr@117.198.121.136) |
| 07:42.07 | jcarpenter2 | VirtualBox |
| 07:42.11 | *** join/#debian Ozzyboshi (~quassel@ip-49-176.sn1.clouditalia.com) |
| 07:42.13 | jcarpenter2 | pastebinit would work |
| 07:42.16 | somiaj | hmm, wrong link, was just gona say, pastebin gives to many adds for my like |
| 07:42.27 | jcarpenter2 | same here, but it's fine if you click "raw" :) |
| 07:42.45 | somiaj | install the guess additions in the debian guest, package is virtualbox-guest-dkms and you need the linux-headers for your kernel isntalled |
| 07:42.54 | jcarpenter2 | okay |
| 07:43.01 | Unit193 | (Or even termbin.) |
| 07:43.16 | jcarpenter2 | Active: active (exited), it says |
| 07:43.39 | somiaj | jcarpenter2: acording to that output the script ran fine and did what ever it was supose to do and then exiteded with an exit code of 0, which is the script saying it encounted no problems. |
| 07:43.43 | jcarpenter2 | status=0 but i don't think it actually succeeded - i'm like 99.9% sure it should be running, not exited |
| 07:43.46 | jcarpenter2 | hmmm |
| 07:44.09 | jcarpenter2 | well maybe it did work, i'll ask the lxc people if lxc-net is supposed to just exit right out |
| 07:44.19 | somiaj | to me it says network bridge setup, and sounds like something that would run to set it up and be done. |
| 07:44.35 | somiaj | so are you trying to setup containers inside your vm? |
| 07:45.07 | somiaj | but the guest additions should give you copy/paste from host to guest. (: |
| 07:45.14 | jcarpenter2 | thanks |
| 07:45.23 | jcarpenter2 | yeah, i'm trying to set up containers in my VM |
| 07:45.41 | *** part/#debian allan_wind (~allan@lifeintegrity.com) |
| 07:46.02 | somiaj | hmm, unsure if there is going to be any issues with that, maybe only having access to virtual hardawre is making a bridge harder to setup (unsure on the details here) |
| 07:46.10 | *** join/#debian sudheendra (~sudheendr@117.198.121.136) |
| 07:47.52 | somiaj | hmm guess it is possible, but it may require some extra configuration. |
| 07:49.18 | *** join/#debian HeOS (~heos@83.139.133.37) |
| 07:49.49 | *** join/#debian iderik (~idk@h-0-97.A147.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 07:52.34 | *** join/#debian _aeris_ (~aeris@april/board/aeris) |
| 07:53.23 | *** join/#debian a_l_b (~a_l_b@eduroam-gw.univ-lehavre.fr) |
| 07:53.54 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 07:57.41 | *** join/#debian a_l_b_ (~a_l_b@z14.univ-lehavre.fr) |
| 07:59.35 | *** join/#debian ^|| (~derlg@unaffiliated/derlg) |
| 08:00.05 | *** join/#debian Gaaab (~Gaaab@host161-140-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:00.37 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 08:01.28 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~galex-713@91.161.83.46) |
| 08:03.52 | *** join/#debian CurryWurst (~CurryWurs@2001:1b48:203::1:1000) |
| 08:07.46 | *** join/#debian djakov (~djakov@linaro/djakov) |
| 08:09.15 | *** join/#debian Madda (~Madda@2-228-92-98.ip190.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:09.32 | *** join/#debian nick20 (~nick20@145.93.64.245) |
| 08:12.11 | *** join/#debian dx_ob (~OtakuSenp@117.194.197.107) |
| 08:12.15 | *** join/#debian clemens3 (~clemens@mx.eniso-partners.com) |
| 08:12.56 | *** join/#debian olafout (~chloubs@5-49-68-38.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 08:15.06 | *** join/#debian nindustries (~nindustri@unaffiliated/nindustries) |
| 08:15.16 | nindustries | Hi, anyone running SMB shares for Apple Timemachine backups? |
| 08:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1515] by debhelper |
| 08:18.16 | *** join/#debian TomyWork (~tomy@85.199.84.100) |
| 08:20.34 | *** join/#debian BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 08:21.42 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@tmo-081-79.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 08:23.02 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~galex-713@91-161-83-46.subs.proxad.net) |
| 08:24.27 | *** join/#debian ^|| (~derlg@unaffiliated/derlg) |
| 08:25.20 | *** join/#debian shtrb|laptop (~shtrb@unaffiliated/shtrb) |
| 08:25.51 | *** join/#debian djakov (~djakov@linaro/djakov) |
| 08:25.59 | shtrb|laptop | anyone here uses kio-gdrive or have an idea how to access a shared drive ? (I can access mine , but can't see the shared one) |
| 08:26.55 | *** join/#debian nick20 (~nick20@145.93.64.245) |
| 08:27.11 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@trivialand/genius/butt3rfly) |
| 08:27.51 | *** join/#debian hkumar006c (~hkumar006@103.5.134.167) |
| 08:28.05 | *** join/#debian sasukeskapa__ (~sasukeska@188-143-12-21.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 08:28.29 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 08:29.53 | *** join/#debian Pjusur (~Pjusur@188.95.241.209) |
| 08:30.33 | *** join/#debian stibium (~stibium@og3o6v.static.otenet.gr) |
| 08:31.42 | *** join/#debian zarez (~Thunderbi@fs-93-93-44-38.fullsave.info) |
| 08:32.45 | *** join/#debian alxy (uid115853@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-amrnxqqlloomgjsb) |
| 08:32.53 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@p200300E0A72DC300021B21FFFE50034D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:36.42 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~RebelCode@2a00:23c5:cd86:b200:e7ff:784c:d16a:1359) |
| 08:37.46 | *** join/#debian nix64bit (~Thunderbi@197.155.4.163) |
| 08:38.50 | *** join/#debian msimpson (~msimpson@cpc137820-sund14-2-0-cust469.11-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:44.33 | *** join/#debian harish__ (~hkumar006@2a07:241:1:4000::d25) |
| 08:44.49 | *** join/#debian lupulo (~lupulo4@193.147.77.16) |
| 08:45.25 | *** join/#debian hikiko (~hikiko@unaffiliated/hikiko) |
| 08:45.47 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@2001:6b0:1:1041:1fc4:b672:3662:540) |
| 08:45.51 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@tmo-080-30.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 08:46.04 | BCMM | !cross post |
| 08:46.04 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
| 08:48.12 | *** join/#debian lessless (~lessless@171.250.185.0) |
| 08:48.44 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 08:49.45 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 08:50.11 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 08:50.45 | *** join/#debian afuentes (~kusanagi@84.167.35.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 08:51.03 | *** join/#debian arora (~ashok@109.177.169.215) |
| 08:51.42 | *** join/#debian a_duck (~danke@overload.landmark.co.uk) |
| 08:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1522] by debhelper |
| 08:58.03 | *** join/#debian fatty (~stibium@big320.static.otenet.gr) |
| 08:59.56 | *** join/#debian srtu (~hypnotoad@i59F44613.versanet.de) |
| 09:02.56 | *** join/#debian l3dx (uid2250@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vuqpoozvipxhthcj) |
| 09:03.37 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@trivialand/genius/butt3rfly) |
| 09:06.12 | *** join/#debian Ilyas (uid43013@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fsmvcaxovaddkiss) |
| 09:07.04 | *** join/#debian lankanmon (~LKNnet@CPE64777d632383-CM64777d632380.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 09:08.14 | *** join/#debian bolovanos (~bolovanos@91.201.22.5) |
| 09:11.16 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@trivialand/genius/butt3rfly) |
| 09:11.32 | *** join/#debian sheepsleek (~sheep@185.130.70.162) |
| 09:11.46 | *** join/#debian sudheendra (~sudheendr@117.198.121.136) |
| 09:12.44 | *** join/#debian Darcidride (~Darcidrid@194.2.202.93) |
| 09:14.00 | *** join/#debian siraben` (~user@ppp-58-8-156-42.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 09:14.57 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.233.79) |
| 09:15.08 | *** join/#debian dvdjaco (~dvdjaco@81.184.6.134.static.user.ono.com) |
| 09:15.42 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~RebelCode@2a00:23c5:cd86:b200:e7ff:784c:d16a:1359) |
| 09:17.36 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@abum64.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:18.13 | *** join/#debian NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@unaffiliated/dontknow) |
| 09:18.27 | *** join/#debian sdrac8 (~sdrac8@180-150-61-116.cust.aussiebb.net) |
| 09:19.39 | *** join/#debian catsup (~d@ps38852.dreamhost.com) |
| 09:20.57 | *** join/#debian catsup (d@ps38852.dreamhost.com) |
| 09:23.48 | *** join/#debian sim590 (~sim590@cable-192.222.210.73.electronicbox.net) |
| 09:27.01 | *** join/#debian mo__ (~mo@5.147.200.43) |
| 09:27.28 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 09:27.34 | *** join/#debian p3rs3us (~jduro@143.167.53.205) |
| 09:31.17 | *** join/#debian Soliton (~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton) |
| 09:31.18 | *** join/#debian czart (~czart@acfe96.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:31.54 | *** join/#debian tys101010 (~quassel@195.248.142.254) |
| 09:32.49 | *** join/#debian thecoffemaker (~thecoffem@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 09:33.39 | *** join/#debian a_l_b (~a_l_b@z14.univ-lehavre.fr) |
| 09:33.45 | *** join/#debian Haohmaru (~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110) |
| 09:34.02 | *** join/#debian mzs114 (~zubairs@182.73.145.150) |
| 09:34.13 | *** join/#debian lankanmon (~LKNnet@CPE64777d632383-CM64777d632380.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 09:36.09 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@cpe-177-168-47-163.wireline.com.au) |
| 09:36.09 | *** join/#debian mylinux (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 09:36.28 | *** join/#debian OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@59.94.28.214) |
| 09:36.30 | *** join/#debian mosab (~mosab@217.110.61.171) |
| 09:37.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1534] by debhelper |
| 09:37.41 | *** part/#debian mzs114 (~zubairs@182.73.145.150) |
| 09:39.09 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 09:40.56 | *** join/#debian oo_miguel (~miguel@2a02:a310:22:d300:2e56:dcff:fe3b:fcaa) |
| 09:42.09 | *** join/#debian OtakuSen1ai (~OtakuSenp@117.194.219.60) |
| 09:44.14 | *** join/#debian digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@2600:380:c526:dc88:2ca9:9097:d7d7:fc16) |
| 09:44.29 | *** join/#debian turfal (~Thunderbi@27.red-213-97-245.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:45.35 | *** join/#debian Andocromn (~quassel@173-166-116-210-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 09:46.35 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@pc165.iip.kth.se) |
| 09:48.15 | *** join/#debian lessless (~lessless@171.250.185.0) |
| 09:51.05 | *** join/#debian Cy8aer (~Cy8aer@static-87-79-75-7.netcologne.de) |
| 09:55.49 | *** join/#debian rafalcpp (~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl) |
| 09:57.36 | *** join/#debian llucenic (~Thunderbi@rev-185-22-215-103.radiolan.sk) |
| 09:58.25 | *** join/#debian ranzpirat (~anon@unaffiliated/ranzpirat) |
| 09:58.48 | *** join/#debian telcoguy________ (~telcoguy_@2001:470:1f0b:553:c8a5:926c:e147:e8a3) |
| 09:59.34 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@host81-130-206-144.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 10:01.46 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.60.233.79) |
| 10:01.50 | *** join/#debian jham (~lynucs@unaffiliated/jham) |
| 10:02.36 | *** join/#debian Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@p4FDA97EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:02.50 | *** join/#debian _ADN_ (~username@5.148.34.186) |
| 10:04.27 | *** join/#debian r0Oter (~r00ter@p5DDF1E74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:10.12 | *** join/#debian Aussie_matt (~quassel@2001:8003:a759:be00:222:15ff:fe99:bafd) |
| 10:12.12 | *** join/#debian m0j0dj0dj0 (~punk3r@unaffiliated/m0j0dj0dj0) |
| 10:13.22 | *** join/#debian splinux (~damien@fedora/splinux) |
| 10:13.55 | *** join/#debian a_l_b_ (~a_l_b@190.108.140.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 10:14.21 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 10:14.28 | *** join/#debian Slashman (~Slash@cosium-152-18.fib.nerim.net) |
| 10:15.58 | *** join/#debian matrixtrace (~matrixtra@ipbcc0fc64.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 10:16.09 | *** join/#debian estrod (~rodrigo@181.209.64.150) |
| 10:19.31 | *** join/#debian lucad111 (~lucad111@linaro/lucad111) |
| 10:21.27 | *** join/#debian thiras (~thiras@unaffiliated/thiras) |
| 10:22.38 | alkisg | What's the best way to shebang a python3 executable? "#! /usr/bin/python3" with a space there, with no space, or via env? |
| 10:23.56 | themill | the space doesn't matter; if you want to use the packaged python3 then use /usr/bin/python3. If you want to take a chance on a random virtualenv then use env |
| 10:24.09 | petn-randall | alkisg: Just like every other shebang: "#!/usr/bin/python3". However, if you want to allow people to use ... what themill said. |
| 10:24.24 | themill | moo |
| 10:24.46 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 10:24.54 | *** join/#debian Rokixz (~rokas@5.199.160.9) |
| 10:25.04 | *** join/#debian OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@117.194.195.16) |
| 10:25.05 | alkisg | Thank you guys, I was seeing a lot of shipped /usr/bin/* python3 scripts use a space there and I started doubting |
| 10:25.58 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 10:27.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1541] by debhelper |
| 10:27.11 | *** join/#debian hkw (~hkw@210.124.147.238) |
| 10:28.37 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:28.44 | *** join/#debian upbeta_ (~upbeta@vpn1-sg.onerentlabs.net) |
| 10:29.42 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@unaffiliated/soulz) |
| 10:29.57 | *** join/#debian BluesKaj (~Blues@unaffiliated/blueskaj) |
| 10:30.16 | BluesKaj | 'Morning |
| 10:31.05 | skandix | morning |
| 10:32.05 | *** join/#debian olafout (~chloubs@5-49-68-38.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 10:32.54 | *** join/#debian thnee (~thnee@h-144-199.A328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 10:35.10 | *** join/#debian winem_ (~quassel@port-87-234-243-75.static.qsc.de) |
| 10:36.25 | *** join/#debian DrWatson (~DrWatson_@p549CE9C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:40.27 | *** join/#debian kimpa (c0475084@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.192.71.80.132) |
| 10:40.28 | *** join/#debian sheepsleek (~sheep@185.130.70.162) |
| 10:40.46 | *** join/#debian Rokixz (~rokas@5.199.160.9) |
| 10:41.07 | *** join/#debian kryptopraxis (~krypto_pr@p200300C853CAD500619D03F595CD839E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:41.14 | *** join/#debian killian99 (~killian99@jol13-4-78-235-25-248.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:41.25 | *** join/#debian DrWatson (~DrWatson_@p549CE9C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:42.01 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 10:48.40 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 10:49.20 | *** join/#debian gryffus (~gryffus@unaffiliated/gryffus) |
| 10:54.58 | *** join/#debian OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@117.194.199.63) |
| 10:55.39 | *** join/#debian dvdjaco (~dvdjaco@81.184.6.134.static.user.ono.com) |
| 10:55.41 | RoyK | hm - this elitebook 820 has secure boot, uefi and the rest. earlier I've just turned off secure boot and installed, but is there a "correct" way to do this? |
| 10:56.42 | RoyK | All I get is "Selected boot image did not authenticate." |
| 10:57.11 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 10:58.58 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 11:00.25 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i577B2523.versanet.de) |
| 11:04.00 | hyperlumic | I believe turning off secure boot is the correct method at this time. |
| 11:05.13 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.22 | skandix | it is |
| 11:06.29 | *** join/#debian matzeG (~matzeG@office.mydays.de) |
| 11:07.14 | *** join/#debian d3lphi_ (~d3lphi@zephyr.element-system.com) |
| 11:08.00 | *** join/#debian kryptopraxis (~kryptopra@p200300C853CAD50030651D941CD18B41.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:08.18 | RoyK | hyperlumic: yeah, found it - another issue, though - first time installing debian on a laptop for years (having used it on servers for 15 years?) I get this https://cloud.karlsbakk.net/index.php/s/CAZwJQLwwWLXfdZ - same applies to graphic install https://cloud.karlsbakk.net/index.php/s/ra2ffoaWTpXMC2X - any ideas? |
| 11:08.37 | *** join/#debian d3lphi (~d3lphi@unaffiliated/d3lphi) |
| 11:08.39 | *** join/#debian matzeG (~matzeG@office.mydays.de) |
| 11:08.42 | hyperlumic | None, unfortunately. |
| 11:10.10 | skandix | that's straaange |
| 11:10.26 | RoyK | it booted up windows right (that was installed already) |
| 11:10.30 | skandix | RoyK: never seen that before |
| 11:10.58 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 11:12.29 | *** join/#debian nurupo (~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo) |
| 11:12.50 | *** join/#debian eatme (~PortableP@h83-209-255-42.cust.se.alltele.net) |
| 11:13.12 | *** join/#debian FraGManiA_ (~FraGManiA@095-097-171-250.static.chello.nl) |
| 11:13.40 | *** join/#debian eatme (~PortableP@h83-209-255-42.cust.se.alltele.net) |
| 11:14.04 | *** join/#debian Bambo (~Bambo@cpe-174-101-201-143.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 11:14.56 | *** join/#debian BlueByte (~walther@grimbart.blackx.net) |
| 11:18.30 | *** join/#debian upbeta (~upbeta@122.53.139.100) |
| 11:18.42 | *** join/#debian luna_ (~luna@unaffiliated/bittin) |
| 11:18.43 | luna_ | Just installed 9.4 here, but waiting for some OMV updates too :) |
| 11:19.28 | *** join/#debian sudheendra (~sudheendr@117.198.121.136) |
| 11:20.00 | *** join/#debian msimpson (~msimpson@178-23-128-190.host.as51043.net) |
| 11:21.33 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@reriding.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 11:22.36 | *** join/#debian copec (~copec@schrodbox.unaen.org) |
| 11:22.47 | BluesKaj | RoyK, gpu/graphics driver it seems |
| 11:22.55 | *** join/#debian rafalcpp_ (~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl) |
| 11:24.19 | *** join/#debian hammer065 (~hammer065@unaffiliated/hammer065) |
| 11:25.28 | *** join/#debian enki (~enki@dynamic-78-30-165-161.adsl.eunet.rs) |
| 11:25.38 | *** join/#debian callidvs (~Thunderbi@cpc77094-renf7-2-0-cust297.14-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 11:25.42 | *** join/#debian naos62 (~naos62@unaffiliated/naos62) |
| 11:27.30 | *** join/#debian xet7 (~xet7@dyg4g5l9qy-p5xpsj-p0y-4.rev.dnainternet.fi) |
| 11:27.58 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 11:28.25 | *** join/#debian Tom-_ (~tomg@98-159-244-102.agas1a-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 11:29.55 | *** join/#debian codingquark (~codingqua@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::2b7:3001) |
| 11:30.08 | *** part/#debian codingquark (~codingqua@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::2b7:3001) |
| 11:31.40 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@reriding.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 11:34.30 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 11:34.38 | RoyK | BluesKaj: quite possibly |
| 11:37.53 | *** join/#debian mortn (~mortn@78-69-240-168-no158.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 11:41.40 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:41.50 | *** join/#debian smolboye (~smolboye@27.4.57.209) |
| 11:42.52 | *** join/#debian careta (~careta@160.133.61.94.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 11:44.29 | *** join/#debian arora_ (~ashok@92.99.139.82) |
| 11:44.36 | RoyK | BluesKaj: just tried another laptop (same make and model) and same thing |
| 11:45.21 | *** join/#debian simpledat (~user@unaffiliated/simpledat) |
| 11:45.31 | Haohmaru | xrandr says i have VGA, DisplayPort, and HDMI, but i only see VGA and DP ports on the back of le comput0r |
| 11:45.37 | *** join/#debian asterismo_l (~asterismo@2800:a4:10a4:9600:223:14ff:fea6:dfbc) |
| 11:46.20 | Haohmaru | is it possible that the graphicscard really has HDMI but just isn't exposed? |
| 11:46.25 | BluesKaj | RoyK, which debian OS? |
| 11:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1551] by debhelper |
| 11:47.14 | abrotman | Haohmaru: or it's the internal attachment |
| 11:48.22 | *** join/#debian hkw (~hkw@210.124.147.238) |
| 11:50.00 | RoyK | BluesKaj: debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:50.27 | hyperlumic | Haohmaru: Do you have a USB-C port? |
| 11:50.39 | Haohmaru | i don't think so |
| 11:50.44 | hyperlumic | Wait. I believe DisplayPort can also carry HDMI. |
| 11:50.52 | hyperlumic | DisplayPort or mini-DP? |
| 11:51.04 | Haohmaru | i don't think it's mini |
| 11:51.15 | Haohmaru | it looks roughly like a USB-A in size |
| 11:51.21 | Haohmaru | or like a HDMI |
| 11:51.54 | *** join/#debian jcarpenter2 (rofl@2601:441:8680:4631:20b3:fc15:12c5:30d8) |
| 11:52.05 | hyperlumic | Haohmaru: Gotcha. It may be a dual-mode DisplayPort. Those can carry DP or HDMI signals, depending on what's connected and used. |
| 11:52.36 | hyperlumic | If it is, it's conceivable that it's presenting both port types, even though they're one physical port. |
| 11:52.54 | *** join/#debian hkw (~hkw@210.124.147.238) |
| 11:53.40 | Haohmaru | ah |
| 11:54.26 | *** join/#debian hkw (~hkw@210.124.147.238) |
| 11:54.47 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@27.47.5.78) |
| 11:56.29 | *** join/#debian ryzokuken (uid116283@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mwwqhrxjzkvwyqmh) |
| 11:56.57 | *** join/#debian AlexMao (~AlexMao@2600:1702:711:7d0::48) |
| 11:57.02 | *** join/#debian olafout (~chloubs@5-49-68-38.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 11:59.51 | RoyK | hm - https://cloud.karlsbakk.net/index.php/s/CAZwJQLwwWLXfdZ - since this is equal on text and graphics, I guess the installer just uses the framebuffer - right? so - anyone remember how I can tweak that to something safe? some kernel option, I guess, don't remember |
| 12:00.16 | *** join/#debian Nekojimi (~jimj316@31.205.29.180) |
| 12:00.51 | *** join/#debian nobodi (~nobodi@142.157.12.124) |
| 12:01.25 | *** join/#debian hvpc (~hvpc@31.207.75.91) |
| 12:01.44 | *** join/#debian Rustypredator (~Schmetter@p4FDA9399.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:02.05 | *** join/#debian cCkw (~RW@179.187.76.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 12:02.36 | *** join/#debian psychicist__ (~psychicis@ip127-8-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 12:03.11 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 12:03.12 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@unaffiliated/soulz) |
| 12:03.32 | BluesKaj | RoyK, that's a fairly new release, and I'm not familiar with the cinnamon desktop....could be a gpu stability issue4 |
| 12:04.29 | klys | royk, if it is a framebuffer, you'd need to know what bootloader you were using. |
| 12:04.38 | *** join/#debian rizzo (~RizzoTheR@p54B6B1EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:04.52 | *** join/#debian roflcakes (~roflcakes@pcyard.co.uk) |
| 12:05.12 | roflcakes | 192.168.0.1/24 is that the whole of that subnet ? |
| 12:05.26 | klys | roflcakes, yes. |
| 12:05.30 | roflcakes | thanks |
| 12:06.52 | klys | royk, it says here: https://wiki.debian.org/BootLoader that you're using syslinux or pxelinux. |
| 12:08.14 | klys | royk, try specifying vga=ask at the boot: prompt. |
| 12:09.42 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@189.90.160.121) |
| 12:10.26 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@212-186-77-29.static.upcbusiness.at) |
| 12:10.50 | klys | you can add which ever kernel parameters you want there at the boot: prompt |
| 12:11.03 | RoyK | I know |
| 12:11.23 | *** join/#debian Eljotto (~Eljotto@b941c009.business.dg-w.de) |
| 12:15.00 | *** join/#debian sibyakin (~sibyakin@83.234.69.145) |
| 12:15.10 | towo^work | i would use nomodeset instead of vga=foo |
| 12:15.24 | towo^work | depends on the graphics hardware you use |
| 12:15.47 | *** join/#debian A2666 (~A2666@104.237.86.166) |
| 12:16.04 | *** join/#debian abno (050aa124@gateway/web/thelounge/ip.5.10.161.36) |
| 12:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1557] by debhelper |
| 12:17.25 | *** join/#debian gpunk (~gpunk@ip-91.net-82-216-134.issy3.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 12:17.35 | *** join/#debian eimiar (~eimiar@gateway/tor-sasl/eimiar) |
| 12:18.20 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (nnn@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 12:23.20 | *** join/#debian skipshooter (~markie@ool-457e6ee0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 12:24.22 | *** join/#debian olafout (~chloubs@5-49-68-38.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 12:24.52 | vlt | asterismo_l: Any progress? |
| 12:24.59 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@55d4df08.access.ecotel.net) |
| 12:26.29 | *** join/#debian siraben (~user@ppp-58-8-156-42.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 12:26.56 | vlt | asterismo_l: Can you paste `fdisk -l` and `lsblk`? |
| 12:26.56 | *** join/#debian jasperarcola (~jasperarc@185.53.226.147) |
| 12:28.01 | *** join/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 12:28.16 | *** join/#debian wowas (~mario@projekte.imos.net) |
| 12:28.29 | wowas | hello! |
| 12:28.36 | wowas | after a upgrade i get: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/jna6WQIAXZI1fI~vZNnE-w |
| 12:28.40 | *** join/#debian DrSky (~dominik@dslb-178-000-207-228.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 12:28.45 | wowas | wtf? am i drunk? |
| 12:28.55 | *** join/#debian altin (~altin@flossk/altin) |
| 12:30.34 | *** join/#debian lankanmon (~LKNnet@CPE64777d632383-CM64777d632380.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 12:30.39 | BanHammor | considering you're using fedora's pastebin: it's possible. |
| 12:31.47 | *** join/#debian chrios_ (~chris@C-59-101-127-122.syd.connect.net.au) |
| 12:32.32 | petn-randall | wowas: Which OS release is this? Do you have any other files in /etc/network/interfaces.d/* ? |
| 12:32.38 | DrSky | Hello. I'm new in IRC. How can I join the "#debian-offtopic" channel? |
| 12:32.55 | abrotman | DrSky: /join #debian-offtopic |
| 12:32.59 | wowas | petn-randall, Debian 8.10, 32bit |
| 12:33.15 | wowas | nothing in /etc/network/interfaces.d/* |
| 12:33.21 | DrSky | I get the following message: "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services" |
| 12:34.09 | *** mode/#debian [+o petn-randall] by ChanServ |
| 12:34.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o petn-randall] by ChanServ |
| 12:34.31 | *** join/#debian chrissl (~chris@80.110.15.132) |
| 12:34.54 | gusnan | DrSky: https://superuser.com/questions/106965/how-do-i-identify-with-services-on-irc |
| 12:35.02 | frostschutz | DrSky, https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration |
| 12:35.20 | petn-randall | DrSky: Alternatively, try again. |
| 12:35.39 | *** join/#debian Abnovitas (~Abnovitas@silver.maoro.net) |
| 12:36.11 | DrSky | frostschutz, Thank you! |
| 12:38.30 | eimiar | i wanted to experiment a little with debian on a virtual machine (for the purpose of making this on a real machine in the future) |
| 12:38.54 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (asm@AntiSpamMeta/.) |
| 12:39.17 | eimiar | my idea was to install debian on a hard drive, then at boot time load the system on RAM and run it there |
| 12:39.47 | eimiar | question: how can i do that? |
| 12:39.59 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 12:40.21 | hyperlumic | Why not just use an existing hypervisor application, like VirtualBox? |
| 12:40.46 | *** join/#debian sipz (80b39d27@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.179.157.39) |
| 12:40.59 | eimiar | hyperlumic, what did you have in mind? |
| 12:41.11 | *** join/#debian N3tw0rK (~n3tw0rk@boaz.texashostnet.net) |
| 12:41.23 | hyperlumic | ... Install VirtualBox on your existing OS, then build a Debian VM. |
| 12:41.33 | sipz | I'm doing an upgrade but it looks it's been stuck (for 5 minutes) at "Setting up ifupdown". Any way to fix that? |
| 12:41.36 | *** join/#debian majesticcc (82efd48f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.239.212.143) |
| 12:41.38 | eimiar | system won't be running on RAM then |
| 12:42.01 | *** join/#debian N3tw0rK (~n3tw0rk@boaz.texashostnet.net) |
| 12:42.02 | sipz | Never mind, it ended: Job for ifupdown-wait-online.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status ifupdown-wait-online.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. |
| 12:42.10 | majesticcc | Im at the uni and I've just installed debian gnome, im getting 1000 printer notification popups, how to turn them off? They wont stop popping up |
| 12:42.21 | *** join/#debian ron-slc (~Ron@c-73-20-118-27.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 12:42.59 | *** join/#debian Abnovitas (~Abnovitas@silver.maoro.net) |
| 12:43.02 | petn-randall | Hehehe, that sounds like an interesting problem. |
| 12:43.47 | petn-randall | majesticcc: My suggestion: Print "turn off zeroconf" on all of the them at the same time, the problem will then go away after a day or so. |
| 12:45.17 | ghormoon | hi, if there's a package (intel-microcode) with name like 3.20180108.1+really20171117.1 does it actually mean anything new is in it if in backports there's 3.20171117.1~bpo9+1? |
| 12:45.21 | jelly | majesticcc: what do those look like, can you post a screenshot |
| 12:45.22 | *** join/#debian tsglove (~tsglove@12.205.72.46) |
| 12:45.48 | BanHammor | i have to ask why you need to run it from RAM, eimiar |
| 12:45.54 | sipz | I'm running "dpkg --configure -a" against but it's still failing to configure the package "ifupdown" |
| 12:46.02 | *** join/#debian herbmillerjr (~herbmille@50-248-67-123-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:46.08 | jelly | ghormoon: it means there's nothing different. |
| 12:46.09 | themill | ghormoon: it means an upload was made and then reverted |
| 12:46.16 | *** join/#debian tsglove (~tsglove@12.205.72.46) |
| 12:46.29 | *** join/#debian m0j0dj0dj0 (~punk3r@unaffiliated/m0j0dj0dj0) |
| 12:46.45 | ghormoon | ok, so backports is enough for now (unless I want to bring the binary blobs manually from intel site) |
| 12:46.50 | jelly | firmware vendor made a bad release. That weird version number is Debian's workaround |
| 12:46.56 | roflcakes | I want root to use the same .vimrc as my main user for when I sudo, apart from copying the file whats the best way to have them use it, could i create a shortcut to the users .vimrc in the root home dir |
| 12:47.19 | roflcakes | I have not actually setup a simlink before could i use that |
| 12:47.28 | BanHammor | man ln |
| 12:47.33 | eimiar | BanHammor, there are 2 main reasons why i wanna do that: to reduce power consumption and to preserve hard disk life, because hard disk would then be turned off |
| 12:47.40 | *** join/#debian sudheendra (~sudheendr@117.198.125.61) |
| 12:49.43 | eimiar | BanHammor, i also wouldn't need any desktop manager or window system, just a plain simple shell |
| 12:49.58 | *** join/#debian ch0wn_ (~tmp@c-73-55-56-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 12:50.08 | *** join/#debian meatpath (~meatpath@2600:1700:4370:8ef0:8c38:7694:6ce0:9afd) |
| 12:50.12 | vlt | roflcakes: Creating a symlink could be a possible solution: in /root just do `ln -s /home/roflcakes/.vimrc` |
| 12:50.19 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@pool-108-49-75-58.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:50.20 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@2001:6b0:1:1041:1fc4:b672:3662:540) |
| 12:50.38 | sipz | looks like a bug that has been fixed https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=891139 but I'm still having it? |
| 12:50.39 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/891139 in ifupdown (closed): «ifupdown: New ifupdown-wait-online.service stops package upgrading»; severity: normal; opened: 2018-02-22; last modified: 2018-03-03. |
| 12:50.51 | *** join/#debian dowwie (~dowwie@unaffiliated/dowwie) |
| 12:51.08 | *** join/#debian sleepingforest (~sleepingf@unaffiliated/sleepingforest) |
| 12:51.41 | roflcakes | vlt: I just realised there is no /root and I can su as root. is this default stretch behaviour |
| 12:51.45 | BanHammor | depending on how deep into hell you wanna get, you can either make a squashfs, so you can boot it like liveCDs, or you can make a custom initrd with all your required stuff |
| 12:52.04 | *** join/#debian sleepingforest (~sleepingf@unaffiliated/sleepingforest) |
| 12:52.22 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@unaffiliated/soulz) |
| 12:52.24 | roflcakes | ahh I cannot use cd on sudo.. command not found . wtf |
| 12:52.32 | *** join/#debian yctn_ (freenodeyc@vps.freegamehosting.eu) |
| 12:52.49 | yctn_ | is kafka in the debian repo? or should it be installed from source? |
| 12:53.35 | roflcakes | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.19 | BanHammor | does echo $PATH give you anything? |
| 12:55.00 | BanHammor | though i guess cd is a builtin, so it's not even in PATH |
| 12:55.17 | roflcakes | BanHammor: you talking to me |
| 12:55.34 | BanHammor | yes |
| 12:55.42 | BanHammor | your bash must be screwed up somehow |
| 12:55.44 | roflcakes | oh ok. yea path gives me expected, sudo -l shows all |
| 12:55.48 | *** join/#debian lukasdboer (~lukasdboe@89.188.25.242) |
| 12:56.01 | roflcakes | roflcakes@debvm:/$ echo $PATH |
| 12:56.02 | roflcakes | /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 12:56.15 | BanHammor | how do you run cd in sudo? |
| 12:56.31 | roflcakes | roflcakes@debvm:/$ cd /root |
| 12:56.31 | roflcakes | -bash: cd: /root: Permission denied |
| 12:56.31 | roflcakes | roflcakes@debvm:/$ sudo cd /root |
| 12:56.31 | roflcakes | sudo: cd: command not found |
| 12:56.43 | hyperlumic | eimiar: Things don't work the way you seem to think they do. If you want to test drive Debian, build a VM like I said. |
| 12:56.46 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@rrcs-72-43-170-99.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 12:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1565] by debhelper |
| 12:57.07 | *** join/#debian arora (~ashok@92.99.139.82) |
| 12:57.08 | vlt | roflcakes: Try `sudo -s` first. |
| 12:57.19 | BanHammor | roflcakes, oh yeah that doesn't work, use sudo -s or sudo -i |
| 12:57.48 | BanHammor | those give interactive shells rather than try to run your exact commands |
| 12:58.11 | *** join/#debian mylinux_ (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 12:58.12 | roflcakes | vlt: I have done, it does nothing, no errors though |
| 12:58.27 | BanHammor | your prefix should change |
| 12:58.32 | BanHammor | from $ to # |
| 12:58.33 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 12:58.34 | roflcakes | ok |
| 12:58.36 | vlt | roflcakes: No errors is good. |
| 12:58.36 | roflcakes | yea i get it |
| 12:58.44 | BanHammor | so that means you're root now |
| 12:58.46 | roflcakes | i have not done this before |
| 12:58.49 | roflcakes | i used to su but not this |
| 12:59.28 | BanHammor | ctrl-d or exit will exit the root shell and return you to the regular one |
| 12:59.39 | roflcakes | yea exit done it. well cool. |
| 12:59.50 | roflcakes | always something new to learn on linux |
| 13:00.04 | roflcakes | so why will it not let me do cd then |
| 13:01.01 | BanHammor | several reasons: first, cd is a bash built-in command, which means it's not in PATH and it doesn't have a corresponding executable file |
| 13:02.08 | roflcakes | ok I get it. |
| 13:02.15 | BanHammor | second, even if you managed to run cd via, say, sudo bash -c 'cd /root', it would just open a new shell inside your old one |
| 13:02.24 | *** join/#debian finlstrm (~quassel@pool-100-40-121-218.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:02.38 | *** join/#debian zamuro (~Samantha@5.red-88-24-225.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:02.38 | *** join/#debian zamuro (~Samantha@unaffiliated/zamuro) |
| 13:02.45 | BanHammor | then it would change the directory, and exit that new shell, returning you to the old shell with the old working directory |
| 13:05.15 | BanHammor | third, even if ALL THAT worked and you would get a new working directory, you wouldn't be able to view its contents, because every other access to a restricted dir also requires permissions |
| 13:05.41 | BanHammor | so yeah, use interactive shells if you wanna run more than one command with root permissions |
| 13:06.11 | *** join/#debian rafalcpp (~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl) |
| 13:06.21 | thms | !stretch->buster |
| 13:06.31 | thms | dpkg, stretch->buster |
| 13:06.31 | dpkg | Don't run Debian "testing" just after a release unless you like helping fix bugs. Testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. If you feel you need instructions on how to upgrade, you should wait a while. |
| 13:07.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell thms -about tum |
| 13:07.44 | *** join/#debian tec__ (~aegis@mm.sixtopia.net) |
| 13:08.23 | ghormoon | why did I have to apt-get install -f to get past this? libstdc++6 : Depends: gcc-6-base (= 6.3.0-18) but 6.3.0-18+deb9u1 is installed, shoudln't it just update it automatically? |
| 13:08.49 | *** join/#debian fabio_ (~fabio@host114-200-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:08.55 | petn-randall | ,v gcc-6-base |
| 13:08.56 | judd | Package: gcc-6-base on amd64 -- stretch: 6.3.0-18+deb9u1; stretch-security: 6.3.0-18+deb9u1; buster: 6.4.0-12; sid: 6.4.0-13 |
| 13:09.00 | *** join/#debian nindustries (~nindustri@unaffiliated/nindustries) |
| 13:09.21 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 13:09.22 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 13:09.35 | petn-randall | ghormoon: Can you provide the details from above in a single paste? ^^^ |
| 13:10.38 | *** join/#debian ableto (~cryptum@65.255.80.240) |
| 13:12.50 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@pool-108-49-75-58.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:13.14 | *** join/#debian jrabe (jrabe@janikrabe.com) |
| 13:13.33 | ghormoon | petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/96f4a116/ not rally verbose though, i'll check apt logs |
| 13:13.33 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@cpc122086-bmly10-2-0-cust783.2-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 13:13.33 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@unaffiliated/tyranny12) |
| 13:14.29 | *** join/#debian Poster|n (~poster@68-189-150-193.dhcp.ahvl.nc.charter.com) |
| 13:14.42 | *** join/#debian stibium (~stibium@big320.static.otenet.gr) |
| 13:15.03 | BanHammor | "fix-broken" suggests you have interrupted an upgrade before |
| 13:15.08 | petn-randall | Yes, it's missing two thirds of what was asked for. |
| 13:15.46 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@pc165.iip.kth.se) |
| 13:15.54 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@rrcs-72-43-170-99.nyc.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:16.24 | ghormoon | true I might killed this when tweaking the commandline, dunno why it sometimes doesn't work properly without the export |
| 13:16.26 | *** join/#debian OS-36666 (~OS-36666@37.228.255.133) |
| 13:18.45 | ghormoon | for sake of completeness https://paste.debian.net/hidden/769a1e78/ but 99.9% it will be that it was killed before |
| 13:19.34 | BanHammor | does following the instructions laid out in the error message solve your problem? |
| 13:20.04 | *** join/#debian yemel (~yemel@unaffiliated/yemel) |
| 13:20.06 | ghormoon | yeah, apt-get install -f did fix it, I was just curious why did I have to do it explicitly |
| 13:20.25 | *** join/#debian sine0 (~roflcakes@unaffiliated/sine0) |
| 13:21.42 | *** join/#debian morphis_ (~morphis@pD9ED72F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:22.13 | *** join/#debian bakkal (~bakkal@LFbn-LYO-1-117-118.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:22.18 | bakkal | join #centos |
| 13:22.24 | *** join/#debian vladimiroffal (~rwlyuwd@61.94.26.9) |
| 13:22.33 | bakkal | busted. |
| 13:24.02 | *** join/#debian tec__ (~aegis@mm.sixtopia.net) |
| 13:26.08 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@136.33.72.78) |
| 13:26.15 | petn-randall | rallies the mob to pursue bakkal. |
| 13:26.29 | *** join/#debian Kelsar (~quassel@unaffiliated/kelsar) |
| 13:26.42 | imMute | Is it possible to mark a file in /etc as *not* a conffile? |
| 13:27.01 | darxmurf | rename it to file.notconf |
| 13:27.03 | darxmurf | (haha) |
| 13:27.28 | petn-randall | imMute: Sounds like a xy problem to me. |
| 13:27.29 | petn-randall | !xy |
| 13:27.30 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 13:28.15 | *** join/#debian ste (~ste@62.101.77.196) |
| 13:28.19 | Kelsar | nice, joining the channel you get PMed profanitys... |
| 13:28.37 | petn-randall | Kelsar: From where? |
| 13:28.47 | Kelsar | petn-randall: vladimir offal |
| 13:28.59 | ste | Italu |
| 13:29.07 | ste | Italy |
| 13:29.16 | petn-randall | Kelsar: Bring it up in #freenode, the operators can check it and ban those people if needed. |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian abimak (~OS-36666@37.228.255.133) |
| 13:30.08 | petn-randall | (assuming those are people and not just bots) |
| 13:30.50 | sine0 | I have a headless server running at HQ and I want to access the router 192.168.0.1 with my browser externally. whats the best solution |
| 13:31.08 | sine0 | so im outside and need to edit some port forwards on the home router |
| 13:31.27 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~no_gravit@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 13:31.27 | imMute | petn-randall: I'm making a package that I want to "own" /etc/ntp.conf (for example, there are others). So I'm making my package divert /etc/ntp.conf (via dpkg-divert) and this install my own file. I want updates to my package to unconditionally overwrite /etc/ntp.conf |
| 13:31.29 | petn-randall | sine0: Can you ssh into the server? |
| 13:31.34 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 13:31.38 | sine0 | yes full access |
| 13:31.48 | no_gravity | Will any files get lost when copying a directory with "cp -r mydir /some/where/"? |
| 13:31.49 | sine0 | just wnat to know the best cleanest. Im sure i did some tunnel before but cant remember |
| 13:32.05 | petn-randall | imMute: Sounds like you actually want to use some form of config management, like ansible, puppet, chef, etc. |
| 13:32.08 | imMute | petn-randall: Yes, I know about things like Ansible,Chef,Puppet,whatever. I can't use those. |
| 13:32.28 | *** part/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 13:32.29 | petn-randall | Why can't you use those? |
| 13:32.44 | ezra-s | no_gravity: files are copied not moved, and still they don't get lost |
| 13:32.45 | petn-randall | ansible only requires working ssh. |
| 13:33.06 | ghormoon | btw how long does it usually take intel-microcode to get packaged and pass up to backports? |
| 13:33.14 | imMute | petn-randall: we sell an embedded device to customers. customers don't want to have to do "management" like a server (and most of them can't anyway). |
| 13:33.15 | no_gravity | ezra-s: Will it copy *all* files? |
| 13:33.35 | ezra-s | no_gravity: yes |
| 13:33.43 | no_gravity | ezra-s: Awesome! |
| 13:33.56 | ezra-s | no_gravity: try and see is the best method |
| 13:34.04 | petn-randall | imMute: Hmm, I see. So you have currently have a Debian source package like 'my_custom_ntp'? |
| 13:34.05 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@tmo-096-157.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 13:34.06 | towo^work | ghormoon, before it can packaged, it has to be released |
| 13:34.17 | imMute | petn-randall: no, right now it's the stock debian ntp. |
| 13:34.19 | no_gravity | ezra-s: The definition of 'see' could be interesting. |
| 13:35.07 | ezra-s | no_gravity: find, ls or your favourite command/gui application |
| 13:36.11 | alkisg | imMute: one way could be to ship symlinks from /etc/ to your /usr/share/package dir |
| 13:36.38 | ghormoon | ah, I've joust found out there's not a tar.gz on intel yet, though the docs they released on 6th marh sya to use revision 0x84, so this was maybe not yet released or I'll have to pic it up somewhere manually? |
| 13:37.28 | towo^work | ghormoon, intel has not released the data file |
| 13:37.30 | *** join/#debian z0 (~zzz@2001:8a0:ca39:a301:dde5:bb22:3768:9322) |
| 13:37.32 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 13:37.35 | ghormoon | hm, it seems 84 is in 20180312 so it the reverted package maybe (because some other CPUs had issues)? |
| 13:37.46 | towo^work | ghormoon, the only have given it to mainboard vendors and mirosoft |
| 13:38.13 | towo^work | at the moment, there is no new microcode |
| 13:38.43 | *** part/#debian no_gravity (~no_gravit@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 13:39.07 | imMute | alkisg: so use dpkg-divert to move the "real" file out of the way, and then ship symlinks (in /etc) and the real config file (in /usr/share/whatever) in my package? |
| 13:39.21 | alkisg | Yes |
| 13:39.29 | *** join/#debian JohnA (~john@2606:6d00:100:4302:1800:386d:d3:e233) |
| 13:39.31 | imMute | alkisg: interesting, I'll have to give it that a try |
| 13:39.32 | *** join/#debian amcorreia (~amcorreia@177.97.86.44) |
| 13:40.06 | alkisg | imMute: note though that if you dpkg-divert on postinst, you can't ship the same files, because they'll conflict in the unpacking stage, afaik, and that means you'd need to create the symlinks on postinst too |
| 13:40.23 | alkisg | If a pre-depends package does the dpkg-divert, then it's ok |
| 13:40.38 | ghormoon | well, there's 20180312, I can download the tar, but dunno why it says there's newer version linking to 20171117 |
| 13:41.20 | towo^work | ghormoon, i do not see 20180312 in intel download center |
| 13:41.37 | ghormoon | https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/27591/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File |
| 13:42.02 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:42.28 | towo^work | that version is not officaly linked |
| 13:42.31 | *** join/#debian sudheendra (~sudheendr@117.198.125.29) |
| 13:42.38 | *** join/#debian valeech (~valeech@unaffiliated/valeech) |
| 13:42.49 | *** join/#debian DetectiveTaco (DetectiveT@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-mvafltrltawftest) |
| 13:42.52 | *** join/#debian ben_roose (~roose@roose.cs.wichita.edu) |
| 13:43.34 | petn-randall | ghormoon: https://people.debian.org/~hmh/microcode/EXPERIMENTAL/ if you feel adventurous. |
| 13:43.52 | *** join/#debian kryptopraxis (~kryptopra@p200300C853CAD50094EF15C1087F83CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:44.28 | ghormoon | where did that version come from? :) I didn't find any 20180306 so far :D |
| 13:44.55 | imMute | alkisg: I did the dpkg-divert in preinst. |
| 13:45.10 | petn-randall | ghormoon: That's an experimental version packaged by the maintainer (hmh). |
| 13:45.15 | ghormoon | but the document I took it (what version I should use for my CPU) from is from that date https://newsroom.intel.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2018/03/microcode-update-guidance.pdf |
| 13:45.22 | JohnA | I keep running into a problem installing. I have 5 2tb drives for a raid 5 - 6 array, install seems to go OK, but will not boot - uefi problem. suggestions? |
| 13:45.29 | *** join/#debian Tom-_ (~tomg@98-159-244-102.agas1a-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 13:45.32 | imMute | alkisg: I'm prety sure I got that from DDC somewhere... |
| 13:45.32 | *** join/#debian gee (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 13:45.36 | ghormoon | yeah, but I don't see the source on intel. either 20171117 or 20180312 |
| 13:46.30 | *** join/#debian noze (~uber@ns3094733.ip-91-121-195.eu) |
| 13:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1572] by debhelper |
| 13:47.33 | ghormoon | maybe he manually picked the files stated in the document for the cpus that were not actually rolled back from the bad update? |
| 13:47.40 | noze | How are video devices enumerated? I want my internal webcam to show up as /dev/video4 instead of /dev/video0. What's the cleanest way to achieve this? |
| 13:48.04 | ghormoon | the rev 0.84 is from 2018-01-21 so it might be |
| 13:48.10 | *** join/#debian Guest24270 (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 13:48.33 | *** join/#debian Guest24270 (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 13:48.46 | *** join/#debian krypto-praxis (~kryptopra@p200300C853CAD50094EF15C1087F83CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:50.13 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 13:50.44 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:aa78:de8e:2d66:bbc7) |
| 13:50.45 | *** join/#debian kryptopraxis (~kryptopra@p200300C853CAD500AC5D63D2F7E633A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:51.40 | imMute | petn-randall: in other news, you were a little bit right. it wasn't working this time around (for ntp.conf even though I did everything the same as for usbmount.conf) b/c for some reason the file wasn't getting copied to the temp folder when building the package. that was bizarre. |
| 13:53.04 | asterismo_l | vlt, hi, i'm back from sleep |
| 13:53.53 | asterismo_l | i'm cloning sdc to sda with this dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sda conv=sync,noerror and it have not finished yet, it started 10hrs ago... |
| 13:54.11 | *** join/#debian finlstrm (~quassel@pool-100-40-121-218.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:54.34 | vlt | asterismo_l: Hi! I'd stop that. |
| 13:54.43 | asterismo_l | it is damn slow |
| 13:54.47 | jhutchins_wk | asterismo_l: What size are the drives? |
| 13:54.57 | JustASlacker | specify a blocksize |
| 13:54.57 | vlt | asterismo_l: You only need the first few bytes for a working partition table. |
| 13:55.02 | asterismo_l | 1tb |
| 13:55.14 | asterismo_l | JustASlacker, bs=1M? |
| 13:55.21 | vlt | asterismo_l: What error message did you get from the --add command? |
| 13:55.30 | JustASlacker | uh, do you want to copy the device or just the partiion table / mbr? |
| 13:55.41 | vlt | asterismo_l: Did you successfully run `sfdisk -R /dev/sda` before? |
| 13:55.58 | JustASlacker | noze: some udev rule |
| 13:56.11 | asterismo_l | i ran this according to the notes: sfdisk -d /dev/sdc | sfdisk -R /dev/sda |
| 13:56.13 | *** join/#debian bites (~bites@wlan-141-23-220-183.tubit.tu-berlin.de) |
| 13:56.16 | asterismo_l | and it did nothing |
| 13:56.25 | vlt | asterismo_l: Can you paste `fdisk -l` and `lsblk`? |
| 13:56.44 | vlt | asterismo_l: And stop that dd'ing. That doesn't make much sense. |
| 13:57.07 | alkisg | imMute: the problem with preinst is that if it fails, you still have the no-longer-managed-by-you dpkg-divertions in place |
| 13:57.21 | vlt | asterismo_l: Could you --stop /dev/md0 without error? |
| 13:57.49 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, try without -R. and what does sfdisk -d /dev/sdc give you without the | ? |
| 13:58.01 | asterismo_l | wait |
| 13:58.47 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, also never conv=sync,noerror - if you have read errors, go with ddrescue |
| 13:58.56 | asterismo_l | first, vlt this is the part when it finished the pvmove and started adding http://paste.debian.net/1014494/ |
| 13:59.05 | *** join/#debian only (75fe27a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.254.39.169) |
| 13:59.19 | only | there is any auto input for hindi langauage translation aka Transliteration ....hindi input translated automatically to english in libre office ...like this software lipikaar as done in windows |
| 13:59.20 | asterismo_l | vlt, i did stop md0 without errors |
| 13:59.39 | vlt | asterismo_l: Ok |
| 13:59.54 | vlt | asterismo_l: Line 27 tells me that the kernel doesn't know about the new partition layout. |
| 13:59.58 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, lsblk? sounds like you added the old sda1 partition |
| 14:00.15 | frostschutz | if so you should fail remove that |
| 14:00.32 | asterismo_l | fdisk -l http://paste.debian.net/1014497/ |
| 14:00.56 | vlt | asterismo_l: I have to go for an hour ... |
| 14:01.17 | asterismo_l | lsblk http://paste.debian.net/1014498/ |
| 14:01.32 | asterismo_l | frostschutz, yes, it looks like the old partition... |
| 14:01.59 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, oh, you already removed it? that looks fine actually... cat /proc/mdstat? |
| 14:02.37 | frostschutz | oh, you went with gpt |
| 14:02.59 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014500/ |
| 14:03.49 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-sever1-nat-m.pilsfree.net) |
| 14:04.33 | vlt | asterismo_l: I'm back. Meeting starts in 7 minutes. |
| 14:04.52 | imMute | alkisg: I don't think I need to worry about that. I have a "installer wrapper" that wraps apt and if *anything* fails it does a filesystem snapshot rollback. |
| 14:05.04 | vlt | asterismo_l: What does `sfdisk -R /dev/sda` so now? |
| 14:05.15 | *** join/#debian Sabotender (~Sabotende@unaffiliated/sabotender) |
| 14:06.05 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, okay. stop the dd if it's still running. file -s /dev/sda*? |
| 14:06.33 | *** join/#debian OS-36754 (~OS-36754@12.49.204.66) |
| 14:07.25 | *** join/#debian OS-36754 (~OS-36754@12.49.204.66) |
| 14:07.35 | *** join/#debian vaillancourtmax (maxvaillan@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/maxvaillancourt1) |
| 14:07.49 | *** join/#debian Sabotend_ (~Sabotende@unaffiliated/sabotender) |
| 14:08.59 | asterismo_l | i'w running it with bs=4M |
| 14:09.05 | asterismo_l | it will finish soon |
| 14:10.24 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:aa78:de8e:2d66:bbc7) |
| 14:11.24 | vlt | asterismo_l: You just can stop it. |
| 14:11.30 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 14:12.20 | *** join/#debian greycat (~wooledg@139.137.128.43) |
| 14:13.02 | *** join/#debian haudi (~milkman@212.23.33.42) |
| 14:13.18 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, dd is wrong, so stop it. with gpt, you'll need sgdisk and squeeze a bios_grub partition into 64s-2047s. |
| 14:13.24 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, something like this http://paste.debian.net/1014506/ |
| 14:16.18 | *** part/#debian only (75fe27a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.254.39.169) |
| 14:16.47 | *** join/#debian Eljotto (~Eljotto@b941c009.business.dg-w.de) |
| 14:19.07 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.65.133) |
| 14:19.08 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@168.205.150.218) |
| 14:19.14 | *** join/#debian phaseNi (~phaset@unaffiliated/phaset) |
| 14:20.21 | *** join/#debian spacemn (~dnc@151.51.136.5) |
| 14:22.34 | *** join/#debian remedan (~remedan@balak.me) |
| 14:23.33 | tw | ~1 MB is big enough for bios_grub? Yikes. |
| 14:23.33 | apt | tw: okay |
| 14:25.51 | *** join/#debian hbautista (~hbautista@189.201.191.13) |
| 14:26.03 | *** join/#debian OS-36754 (~OS-36754@12.49.204.66) |
| 14:26.09 | *** join/#debian roshanavand (~mos@2a02:810a:8400:1fa2:aa78:de8e:2d66:bbc7) |
| 14:26.13 | hyperlumic | 1MiB has been enough every time I've done such an install. |
| 14:26.31 | spacemn | Hi guys, on Debian Stretch I'm trying to figured out what component Gnome component displays a popup called with a text "Select Audio Device" (https://postimg.org/image/aeeiow0h7/), on a different Stretch installation it doesn't appear and it's making me crazy |
| 14:26.33 | *** join/#debian nobodi (~nobodi@142.157.12.124) |
| 14:27.14 | spacemn | probably I should re-read before pressing the return key |
| 14:28.30 | *** join/#debian llucenic (~Thunderbi@rev-185-22-215-103.radiolan.sk) |
| 14:30.10 | spacemn | damn, only now I realized that the other PC has two jacks instead of a single one, so it doesn't have the other pin to use a headset with mic... |
| 14:30.44 | *** join/#debian Marvel (~Marvel@102.156.193.245) |
| 14:33.05 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-88-153-137-218.hsi04.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 14:33.09 | spacemn | anyway, I would still be interested to know what Gnome component is responsible for the "Select Audio Device" popup |
| 14:33.12 | *** join/#debian Tom-_ (~tomg@98-159-244-102.agas1a-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 14:33.48 | tw | spacemn: If you've got the window open, you can find its process image and dpkg -S that binary... |
| 14:34.37 | *** join/#debian manil (~manil@102.156.193.245) |
| 14:34.59 | tw | If you don't know the PID or don't know the name, xprop _NET_WM_PID then click the window. |
| 14:35.34 | greycat | I think the issue is that he *doesn't* have it and can't figure out how to get it, but only remembers it from the distant past. |
| 14:35.40 | spacemn | yeah, but when the popup appears i can only use the mouse, can I launch xwininfo from a console? |
| 14:35.54 | spacemn | exporting DISPLAY? |
| 14:36.27 | greycat | Oh, you *can* get it on one of your systems? Never mind then. |
| 14:37.06 | *** join/#debian turfal (~Thunderbi@27.red-213-97-245.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:37.07 | *** join/#debian BluesKaj (~Blues@unaffiliated/blueskaj) |
| 14:37.22 | tw | spacemn: I tried it and it appears to work. |
| 14:37.43 | greycat | Open a terminal first, then bring up this popup thing, then you can run whatever commands you want inside the terminal, unless the popup completely seizes your entire UI, in which case I would ininstall GNOME. |
| 14:37.48 | greycat | Hell, I would uninstall GNOME anyway. |
| 14:37.58 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.18.210) |
| 14:38.05 | tw | ^- I'm with greycat on that one. Gnome always causes me problems =( |
| 14:38.23 | *** join/#debian loonquawl (~loonquawl@74-195-164-161.hwkncmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 14:38.24 | *** join/#debian verm1n (~verm1n@pool-173-48-97-181.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:38.25 | spacemn | ^__^ |
| 14:38.58 | greycat | GNOME is notorious for being completely unreasonable to work with, not doing anything the way everything else does it, etc. |
| 14:39.12 | *** join/#debian zennix (~zennix@5.34.18.210) |
| 14:39.17 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@110.78.148.18) |
| 14:41.17 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.65.133) |
| 14:44.03 | spacemn | the fxxxer doesn't let me grab the mouse, GRRR |
| 14:44.30 | spacemn | I'm thinking it's a popup from gnome-shell |
| 14:44.45 | greycat | I don't know what you're saying. "Doesn't let me grab the mouse"? |
| 14:44.55 | greycat | Is the mouse pointer locked within a window? |
| 14:45.04 | spacemn | xprop: error: Can't grab the mouse. |
| 14:45.09 | greycat | ... what |
| 14:46.07 | greycat | So I guess the actual complaint is "When I run xprop, I get this error". |
| 14:46.58 | tw | spacemn: At this point I'd look at pstree and make some reasonable guesses. |
| 14:48.50 | vlt | asterismo_l: Back. |
| 14:49.35 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@aftr-88-217-180-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:50.14 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DEEBD90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:50.30 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 14:51.03 | greycat | spacemn: What's the actual problem you're trying to solve? Trying to get audio to work? Is it muted? Is there an error? Is pulseaudio installed/not-installed (same state) on both systems? Are you trying to use ALSA or Pulse output? |
| 14:51.03 | *** join/#debian Urangst (~Urangst@191.250.221.41) |
| 14:51.08 | asterismo_l | vlt ok |
| 14:51.33 | *** join/#debian volodim (~volodim@81.171.7.106) |
| 14:51.38 | asterismo_l | can you check frostschutz suggestion? http://paste.debian.net/1014506/ |
| 14:52.50 | *** join/#debian annadane (~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp130-03-70-24-210-146.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 14:53.01 | vlt | asterismo_l: I'd follow their line 6 ;-) |
| 14:54.24 | vlt | asterismo_l: Like suggested yesterday, use cfdisk to create two "dos style" partitions and use them for the --add command. After sync repartition sdc again to get rid of the gpt stuff. |
| 14:54.47 | vlt | asterismo_l: That's what _I_ would do. |
| 14:55.51 | spacemn | greycat: I have two Dell XPS 9333, both with Stretch, when I plug an headset/headphone in the jack the popup appears, the problem that I can't isolate in one of the notebooks is if I click the headset icon the audio is muted, in the other the audio works, if I click the headphone or close the popup the audio works |
| 14:55.57 | *** join/#debian eimiar (~eimiar@gateway/tor-sasl/eimiar) |
| 14:56.04 | *** join/#debian LtL (~ltl@unaffiliated/ltl) |
| 14:56.48 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:56.53 | greycat | If you're trying to unmute audio, I would bypass all that GNOME crap and either use alsamixer (if pulse is NOT installed) or pavucontrol (??) (if pulse IS installed). |
| 14:57.20 | *** join/#debian rebrec_ (~quassel@91.160.60.251) |
| 14:58.30 | spacemn | yeah, I'm going to try to remove pulse and use straight alsa and see if the problem persist |
| 14:58.58 | BluesKaj | and make sure automute is disabled in alsamixer |
| 14:59.16 | spacemn | BluesKaj: OK |
| 14:59.21 | *** join/#debian zphds (~sudharsh@unaffiliated/sudharsh) |
| 14:59.46 | *** join/#debian b4dger (~b4dger@unaffiliated/b4dger) |
| 15:00.56 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, you can choose whichever you like because the disk is <2TB... for >2TB you'd pretty much have to go with gpt because msdos stops at 2TB (for 512e sector) |
| 15:02.50 | *** join/#debian biser (~biser@77.70.89.140) |
| 15:03.12 | *** join/#debian Urangst_ (~Urangst@179.178.229.52.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 15:03.35 | *** join/#debian jerdef82 (~jerdef@213.219.145.248.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net) |
| 15:04.48 | *** join/#debian HFRadical (~none@c-73-221-225-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 15:05.34 | *** join/#debian hipp (~hipp@c-69-243-169-65.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 15:06.36 | *** join/#debian Sabotender (~Sabotende@unaffiliated/sabotender) |
| 15:07.11 | Trel | Is there a quick way to see what packages will get automatically installed along with a specific package? |
| 15:07.25 | greycat | apt-get -u install foo |
| 15:08.52 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 15:08.53 | Trel | grey, that says show upgraded |
| 15:08.53 | asterismo_l | vlt, frostschutz but the partition did not resized, it still 500gb |
| 15:09.22 | greycat | well, what happens if you leave it out? what happens if you put it in? one of them ought to answer the question. |
| 15:09.28 | somiaj | Trel: there is --dry-run, -s, --simulate, so apt-get -s install foo |
| 15:09.36 | greycat | I always use apt-get -u upgrade so I can see what it wants to pull in. |
| 15:10.01 | somiaj | in most cases apt will ask you a Y/n question if you want to continoue an install and list the stuff, but the --dry-run can be used first if you don't want apt to just install the package if there is nothing else that needs isntalled. |
| 15:10.06 | Trel | greycat: and what if you already have the packaged it wants installed, those would show nothing, and it would install |
| 15:10.14 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, you mean the vg root? show: pvs, vgs, lvs |
| 15:10.15 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 15:10.16 | greycat | fuck... |
| 15:10.22 | vlt | asterismo_l: Slow down, what did you do and how do you know it's 500 G? |
| 15:10.26 | greycat | ASK THE QUESTION YOU WANT THE ANSWER TO IN THE FIRST PLACE |
| 15:10.31 | Trel | I did |
| 15:10.55 | somiaj | Trel: so what you want is a list of depends that is different than the list of packages that get automatically isntalled. |
| 15:11.06 | greycat | No, you did NOT say "it's a package that I already have, and I am just asking out of curiosity, NOT because I actually intend to install it" |
| 15:11.07 | somiaj | Trel: in this case look at apt-cache depends or apt-rdepends |
| 15:11.28 | vlt | asterismo_l, frostschutz: vg was pvmove'd to the new md. Should have increased. |
| 15:11.43 | frostschutz | vlt, I think he's missing the lvextend / resize2fs / ... |
| 15:12.02 | *** join/#debian zophyx (~zophyx@2600:1011:b11f:d22a:94d:da4f:5fc0:dc86) |
| 15:12.06 | Trel | Does that show it as far as specifically which packages it would be or just in the form of it needs this program, or this library? |
| 15:12.22 | greycat | If the ACTUAL question is "How much extra space will this thing and its deps use from a Standard install", the ONLY WAY TO ANSWER THAT is to have a Standard install lying around (chroot, vm, whatever) and try it THERE. |
| 15:12.31 | vlt | frostschutz: Yes, maybe he's talking about the file system now. |
| 15:13.16 | Trel | greycat: the actual question is the question I asked the first time. |
| 15:13.18 | imMute | so I have a package that has a previous version already installed. a new version adds a new file (which happens to be owned by another package, so I dpkg-divert in the preinst) but dpkg complains about the file being deleted and bombs out of configure. it's like it doesn't realize that the version being installed is the first version that shipped that file... anyone have any idea what's could be going |
| 15:13.23 | somiaj | Trel: you are not being clear what you want, so you won't get a good answer. apt-cache depends will list all depends of a package recrusivally I belive. ACtually you need apt-rdepends to list them all, apt-rdpends packagename will list all depends (but not suggested/recommended) |
| 15:13.24 | imMute | on here? |
| 15:13.28 | greycat | Trel: Then the answer is "apt-get -s install foo". |
| 15:13.53 | vlt | asterismo_l: You first have to finnish the whole raid and grub stuff before moving to resizing LVs and file systems. |
| 15:13.54 | greycat | Trel: "apt-get n-s install foo" will tell you what it will install FOR YOU, ON THIS HOST, RIGHT NOW, which is EXACTLY what you asked. |
| 15:13.56 | somiaj | Trel: if you want to just know what extra packages need to be installed to install a paticular package, then as we said you can use -s, --dry-run, --simulate (all the same) to test what apt would do. |
| 15:14.01 | *** join/#debian zphds (~sudharsh@unaffiliated/sudharsh) |
| 15:14.39 | *** join/#debian DeadTOm (~deadtom@2001:4b98:dc0:41:216:3eff:fe58:44d0) |
| 15:16.13 | Trel | Neither of those options are showing what I'm asking for with the package I am testing with. |
| 15:16.35 | greycat | Then please stop being an ass and ask for what you actually want to know the answer to. |
| 15:16.55 | greycat | You've contradicted yourself multiple times now and it is annoying as hell. |
| 15:17.56 | Trel | I don't see a single contraction with what I'm asking. What am I not being clear about? |
| 15:18.09 | Trel | I thought what I was asking was pretty straight forward. |
| 15:19.01 | Trel | If I were to do 'apt-get install ufw' What would automatically get installed? I know iptables would for example, but 'apt-get -s install ufw' does not mention iptables at all. |
| 15:19.29 | somiaj | Trel: is iptables already installed? Do you want the list of packages that 'will be installed' or do you want a list of 'all dependencies' |
| 15:19.37 | greycat | And "sudo apt-get install ufw" answers this for me on my system. |
| 15:19.39 | somiaj | these are different, as the first competely depends on what you already have isntalled. |
| 15:19.49 | greycat | What did it do for you and what did you EXPECT it to do? |
| 15:19.55 | somiaj | and I have already given you answers to generate both lists |
| 15:19.55 | Trel | greycat: and if I ran that command, it would install UFW |
| 15:20.00 | greycat | shit, I mean sudo apt-get -s install ufw |
| 15:20.13 | greycat | YOU HAVE ME SO FUCKING ANGRY I CANNO TYPE |
| 15:20.25 | somiaj | Trel: that is what the -s is for, it won't actually isntall anything. |
| 15:20.25 | greycat | ... can't take this. *plonk* |
| 15:20.30 | Trel | somiaj: when I use apt-cache depends, it lists things like "<python3:any>" but that's not a package. |
| 15:20.50 | imMute | Trel: yeah it is. it's just in a format you don't recognize. |
| 15:21.06 | greycat | http://paste.debian.net/1014521/ |
| 15:21.26 | somiaj | Trel: python3:any is a package, it is a meta package that depends on the current version of python 3 |
| 15:21.38 | annadane | tsk tsk, grey. update your system. (: |
| 15:21.40 | Trel | greycat: where's iptables mentioned in that paste? |
| 15:21.44 | greycat | what? |
| 15:21.45 | somiaj | but youse apt-rdepends if you want to search through depends recrusivally. |
| 15:21.48 | *** join/#debian alxy (uid115853@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krwpbuidixgciald) |
| 15:21.57 | annadane | i'm kidding. (71 packages not upgraded) |
| 15:21.57 | BluesKaj | greycat, I sympathise, but take break for a few mins |
| 15:22.02 | *** join/#debian vmod (~ivyshed@120.60.149.82) |
| 15:22.19 | greycat | Ah, I didn't do the 9.4 update on this box yet? Damn it. |
| 15:22.37 | Trel | somiaj is that a separate program to install or part of a base system? |
| 15:22.45 | greycat | BluesKaj: I used my standard 10 day /ignore on him. |
| 15:23.07 | *** join/#debian vmod (~ivyshed@120.60.149.82) |
| 15:23.11 | *** join/#debian Bierjpg|X8 (~bier@b2b-92-50-125-114.unitymedia.biz) |
| 15:23.16 | somiaj | Trel: python3 is an optional package, as in stretch python (which is python2) is the python version that gets installed by default. |
| 15:23.49 | Trel | sorry, I meant apt-rdepends |
| 15:23.55 | BluesKaj | greycat, ok, probly a good move :-) |
| 15:23.56 | Trel | with that question |
| 15:23.56 | greycat | annadane: I still get the same result for -s install ufw after the 9.4 upgrade |
| 15:23.59 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-944c262b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 15:24.24 | *** join/#debian vmod (~ivyshed@120.60.149.82) |
| 15:24.50 | somiaj | Trel: so what you want is some strange question, if I have some 'base install' (note this can vary) what new packages would be installed on that system? Well this first depends on what you mean by 'base install', so you could either create such a 'base system' and run apt-get -s install foo on that system, or look though all the depends, recommends, and suggested packages using a tool like apt-rdepends. |
| 15:25.15 | somiaj | I guess you could debootstrap yourself a minimial install and then run apt-get -s inside that chroot |
| 15:25.26 | greycat | 11:12 greycat> If the ACTUAL question is "How much extra space will this thing and its deps use from a Standard install", the ONLY WAY TO ANSWER THAT is to have a Standard install lying around (chroot, vm, whatever) and try it THERE. |
| 15:26.23 | Trel | somiaj: hold on, I was asking if apt-rdepends is included in a standard debian install since I don't seem to have it. |
| 15:27.06 | somiaj | Trel: not it is not |
| 15:27.15 | somiaj | first not is no |
| 15:28.02 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 15:28.12 | *** join/#debian cCkw (~RW@179.187.76.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 15:28.21 | Trel | Thank you. That's all I was asking there. I already had apt-get and apt-cache, and I know apt-file needs to be separately installed, so I wanted to double check there. |
| 15:29.10 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@2a01:e35:8be5:b5b0:dc72:2b3d:eda5:e149) |
| 15:29.32 | *** join/#debian marianab (~mariana@79.106.106.128) |
| 15:29.46 | *** join/#debian Apex (~none@103.254.153.99) |
| 15:31.13 | Trel | I think that's working 99% of what I am looking for |
| 15:31.52 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 15:32.02 | somiaj | I still think there is an XY problem here, and you have some goal to use with this list, and you should have just asked about the goal. |
| 15:33.03 | Trel | Maybe I used a wrong term or something, but I'm not seeing how that list isn't exactly what I was asking for. Isn't that the list of packages that would get automatically installed? |
| 15:34.20 | somiaj | the list of packages that will get automatically installed totally depends on what is installed (And if you install recommended and/or suggested packages) |
| 15:34.44 | *** join/#debian sleepingforest (~sleepingf@unaffiliated/sleepingforest) |
| 15:34.46 | *** join/#debian verm1n (~verm1n@pool-173-48-97-181.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 15:34.53 | somiaj | this list can be generated by apt-get -s install foo as we have said, if you run it on a system that is in the state you consider 'base' |
| 15:35.16 | *** join/#debian sleepingforest (~sleepingf@unaffiliated/sleepingforest) |
| 15:35.23 | somiaj | but it seems werid to me you are asking about the list apt gives you every time you try to install a package and asks you Y/n, do you want to do this. |
| 15:35.48 | Trel | But that's specific to the system I run it on. I'm assuming apt-rdepends would return identical information provided I'm looking up the same version of the same package. (Where as apt-get -s would differ based on what's already installed) |
| 15:36.20 | Trel | (I wasn't asking about the list from the Y/n thing, that's what I was saying I didn't want) |
| 15:36.23 | somiaj | apt-rdepends recruisvally lists all the depends a package has, so this gives you the full list of depends (note you may ahve to use flags to include recommands and/or sugested) |
| 15:37.21 | somiaj | but this gives a full list, include core packages you many not want in your list, because you seem to want some random list that is somewhere between all of the depends, and what would be installed on your system relative to a 'standard system', so build this standard system, run apt-get -s install foo in that system. |
| 15:37.54 | Trel | I think that's where the confusion was. I DID want the full list. |
| 15:38.30 | Trel | I was saying I did NOT want a subjective list based on the system I run the command from (other than major version differences of course) |
| 15:38.49 | *** part/#debian th_ (~th@unaffiliated/th-/x-5048110) |
| 15:39.09 | somiaj | aslo note, depends are sometimes or, like chromium | firefox, rdepends will list them both, but depending on your system one or the other maybe prefered based on what is already isntalled. |
| 15:39.30 | Trel | That's why I was saying 'apt-get -s install' wasn't what I was looking for because if I run it on my machine it would say just ufw, since I already have iptables installed, but I know for sure that ufw depdnds on it. |
| 15:39.43 | somiaj | but the real question we have asked is, what do you want to do with this list? |
| 15:39.56 | Trel | Nothing at all. I honestly just wanted the list. |
| 15:40.36 | *** join/#debian abba (~abba@46.189.77.18) |
| 15:41.18 | Trel | It was a case of I'm reading about ufw, see it's a way to manipulate iptables rules, so I wondered if it would require it be installed, so I then was curious to see if there was a way to see all the packages that would get installed should I install it. |
| 15:43.26 | somiaj | After this conversation you should start distnigushing between 'would be installed' and 'depends on' |
| 15:44.18 | somiaj | most things depend on libc6, you are most likely in some very messedup state if this package would be installed during an install process (here installed, not upgraded) |
| 15:45.23 | greycat | Another useful skill would be the ability to convey your desires clearly, rather than saying "Is there a quick way to see what packages will get automatically installed along with a specific package?" when you actually mean "What would ufw bring in if I had only a Standard install?" |
| 15:45.50 | somiaj | also due to or depends, optional depends, and conflicts or breaks depends, there is no single list of packages that would be installed could differe based on the system even if all the versions were the exact same. |
| 15:47.28 | *** join/#debian Informant__ (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 15:47.37 | somiaj | Trel: also in this case, 'apt show ufw' would have given you the info that iptables is required to be installed for uwf. |
| 15:47.55 | *** join/#debian password16 (~password@unaffiliated/password2) |
| 15:48.35 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 15:48.43 | *** join/#debian Al_lA (~derwhalfi@240.226.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) |
| 15:48.50 | *** join/#debian vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@93.122.250.60) |
| 15:49.18 | Trel | greycat: the reason I didn't ask that is because at that point I was asking in general rather than specific to ufw. That may have been my test case, but I was asking in general for any/all packages. |
| 15:49.33 | *** join/#debian th_ (~th@unaffiliated/th-/x-5048110) |
| 15:49.51 | Trel | somiaj: that looks like it gives the equivalent of the depdendencies listed in apt-cache depends rather than apt-rdepends which is pretty much what I wanted. |
| 15:50.16 | greycat | somiaj: Don't know what Trel is saying currently, but *most* of the time when people ask for this kind of thing, it's because they have two systems -- one on the Internet, and one not on the Internet, and they want to sneakernet a bunch of packages from the first system to the second system, but for some reason they are unwilling to run "apt-get -s install foo" on the second to get the list (I don't know |
| 15:50.17 | *** join/#debian Evol (~no@191.190.200.16) |
| 15:50.21 | *** join/#debian wytchmaster (~wytchmast@gateway.proxion.net) |
| 15:50.22 | greycat | why). |
| 15:51.14 | greycat | (or because their second system is 7 point releases behind, since it can't apt-get upgrade to get security updates, etc.) |
| 15:51.18 | *** join/#debian rpifan (~rpifan@2600:1:c13b:8312:5a94:bfd2:713f:e4f6) |
| 15:51.49 | greycat | (but of course most people are capable of expressing this goal with only a couple minutes of poking) |
| 15:52.29 | Trel | greycat: As I said, my end goal was the list. I didn't want to do anything with the list. I just wanted to get it. The answer to my question was apt-rdepends. |
| 15:52.29 | asterismo_l | vlt, it has 500gb see http://paste.debian.net/1014525/ |
| 15:52.33 | *** join/#debian dasj (~daniel@2.129.203.46) |
| 15:52.35 | Trel | (and somiaj, thank you again for that) |
| 15:52.48 | asterismo_l | line for bulldozer--vg-root |
| 15:53.06 | somiaj | though apt-rdepends dosen't nesicarlly give you the list you asked for, it gives you a list of all depends, (you would have to manually parse any or depends or conflicts) |
| 15:53.37 | *** join/#debian JohnML (~john1@ip-84-118-209-57.unity-media.net) |
| 15:55.16 | Trel | It's close enough since anything else WOULD be system specific, no? |
| 15:55.32 | *** join/#debian delYsid (~user@debian/developer/mlang) |
| 16:00.31 | *** join/#debian pyc0d3r (~umar@197.211.63.153) |
| 16:01.01 | pyc0d3r | hi there |
| 16:01.36 | *** join/#debian cujotus (~quassel@ip-36-115-2470-b05-8061-8223.dhcp6.opintanner.fi) |
| 16:01.47 | *** join/#debian DocHopper (~DocHopper@unaffiliated/dochopper) |
| 16:01.52 | *** join/#debian [Gort] (~gort@82-69-126-225.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 16:01.53 | *** join/#debian [Gort] (~gort@unaffiliated/gort/x-9231432) |
| 16:02.27 | *** join/#debian rpifan (~rpifan@2600:1:c13b:8312:5a94:bfd2:713f:e4f6) |
| 16:02.41 | *** join/#debian OtakuSenpai (~OtakuSenp@117.194.199.63) |
| 16:04.17 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 16:05.12 | *** join/#debian z0 (~zzz@bl15-164-101.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 16:05.54 | *** join/#debian [Gort] (~gort@unaffiliated/gort/x-9231432) |
| 16:06.06 | *** join/#debian vaillancourtmax (maxvaillan@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/maxvaillancourt1) |
| 16:08.41 | *** join/#debian Urangst (~Urangst@179.178.229.52.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 16:08.44 | *** join/#debian n4dir (~user@200116b8688e7b00021a4bfffe4896d9.dip.versatel-1u1.de) |
| 16:09.19 | *** join/#debian erdave (~erdave@186-95-249-253.genericrev.cantv.net) |
| 16:11.45 | vlt | asterismo_l: Pronoun game? |
| 16:11.57 | vlt | asterismo_l: _What_ has 500 GB? |
| 16:13.21 | vlt | asterismo_l: You mean the volume group on which your root file system lives? Please, let's deal with that way later. You first have to finnish the raid setup. |
| 16:13.38 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 16:14.08 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (~Ryushin@2001:470:4b:3d3:6d9d:486a:510b:a400) |
| 16:14.15 | antoszka | there's norway I'm gonna finnish it ;) |
| 16:15.25 | vlt | :D |
| 16:15.50 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 16:17.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1566] by debhelper |
| 16:17.03 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@104.244.76.243) |
| 16:17.20 | *** join/#debian darkhanb (~textual@ip68-224-95-5.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 16:20.22 | *** join/#debian gryffus (~gryffus@unaffiliated/gryffus) |
| 16:21.01 | *** join/#debian [Gort] (~gort@unaffiliated/gort/x-9231432) |
| 16:21.08 | asterismo_l | vlt, crypto partition is 1tb (930gb) but lvm / is 500gb (446gb) ok, i'll finish the raid setup first |
| 16:24.15 | vlt | asterismo_l: Next step? |
| 16:24.26 | vlt | asterismo_l: cfdisk? |
| 16:25.08 | *** join/#debian olafout_ (~chloubs@5-49-68-38.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 16:25.22 | vlt | asterismo_l: Just to calm you down a little: have a look at the output of `vgs`. What does that tell you? |
| 16:25.55 | *** join/#debian careta (~careta@160.133.61.94.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 16:26.06 | *** join/#debian yemel (~yemel@unaffiliated/yemel) |
| 16:26.15 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014532/ |
| 16:26.41 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 16:27.10 | asterismo_l | vlt, i just wanted to finish the dd of sdc into sda in case i miss you and i end up restoring the raid at that state |
| 16:27.43 | asterismo_l | it has finished now |
| 16:28.00 | asterismo_l | i'm ready |
| 16:28.09 | vlt | asterismo_l: Ok, now that you've spent hours dd'ing the disks ... let's destroy everything on sda :-D |
| 16:28.20 | asterismo_l | hahaha |
| 16:28.26 | asterismo_l | ok |
| 16:28.42 | asterismo_l | let me post the current state |
| 16:28.48 | asterismo_l | lsblk and so on |
| 16:29.00 | vlt | asterismo_l: dd'ing the whole disk _while_ it's used for write access isn't the greatest idea anyways. |
| 16:29.20 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.148.18) |
| 16:29.23 | asterismo_l | lsblk http://paste.debian.net/1014534/ |
| 16:29.26 | *** join/#debian InfoTest (~Thunderbi@tgn.149.6.241.dts.mg) |
| 16:29.39 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@2a01:c50e:8821:4200:2952:1ac2:75f3:c543) |
| 16:29.48 | *** join/#debian bakkal1 (~bakkal@2a01:cb14:578:b300:a60:6eff:fed3:8b44) |
| 16:29.57 | asterismo_l | fdisk -l http://paste.debian.net/1014535/ |
| 16:30.34 | vlt | asterismo_l: 1) cfdisk /dev/sda |
| 16:30.35 | asterismo_l | mdstat http://paste.debian.net/1014537/ |
| 16:30.56 | asterismo_l | i see sda1 and sda2 |
| 16:31.11 | asterismo_l | after, cfdisk /dev/sda, should i delete them? |
| 16:31.30 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@2a01cb040a024000dc722b3deda5e149.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:31.42 | vlt | asterismo_l: Slow down. Just run `cfdisk /dev/sda` for now. |
| 16:31.47 | asterismo_l | ok |
| 16:32.06 | asterismo_l | it opened the partitioner |
| 16:32.13 | vlt | asterismo_l: After the gpt (and dd) surprise I'd like to make sure everything works fine. |
| 16:32.31 | *** join/#debian drakonis (~drakonis@unaffiliated/drakonis) |
| 16:32.44 | asterismo_l | ok |
| 16:33.01 | vlt | asterismo_l: Can you delete all the partitions on sda? |
| 16:33.06 | asterismo_l | yes |
| 16:33.31 | vlt | asterismo_l: I want to make sure afterwards that the kernel gets notified. |
| 16:33.55 | asterismo_l | maybe tail -f /var/log/kern...? |
| 16:34.01 | asterismo_l | something like that? |
| 16:34.05 | vlt | journalctl -f |
| 16:34.31 | asterismo_l | and now delete them? |
| 16:34.47 | vlt | asterismo_l: Yes. |
| 16:36.09 | *** part/#debian ableto (~cryptum@65.255.80.240) |
| 16:36.59 | *** join/#debian marianab (~mariana@79.106.106.128) |
| 16:37.06 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014538/ |
| 16:38.14 | asterismo_l | it gets notified rigth? |
| 16:38.32 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@2a01:c50e:8821:4200:2952:1ac2:75f3:c543) |
| 16:38.37 | *** join/#debian pax (~Thunderbi@host106-29-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:38.46 | vlt | asterismo_l: Yes, perfect. |
| 16:38.51 | *** join/#debian vaillancourtmax (maxvaillan@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/maxvaillancourt1) |
| 16:39.01 | *** join/#debian cujotus (~quassel@ip-36-115-2470-b05-8061-8223.dhcp6.opintanner.fi) |
| 16:39.06 | spacemn | OK gang, removed pulseaudio and configured alsa as suggested, somewhat fixed the muted headphones but lost global media keys, reinstalled PA, looked for a way to reset the configuration of the soundcard, tried with the alsactl nrestore command and success, now selecting the headset doesn't mute the headphones, so the two notebooks work in the same way and I'm at peace with the world again. Thanks all once |
| 16:39.08 | spacemn | more. |
| 16:39.44 | vlt | asterismo_l: Now create a dos style partition table and two partitions (roughly the size you chose yesterday for sdc) using cfdisk. |
| 16:40.03 | vlt | asterismo_l: Maybe you need `cfdisk -z` to start from zero. |
| 16:41.22 | asterismo_l | 512MB for boot, primary? |
| 16:41.31 | *** join/#debian |o-o| (~xor@102.156.193.245) |
| 16:41.39 | asterismo_l | for md1 |
| 16:41.50 | asterismo_l | and the rest for md2 |
| 16:41.57 | *** join/#debian kliq (~cliq@199.38.233.214) |
| 16:42.08 | vlt | asterismo_l: Yes. |
| 16:42.14 | hyperlumic | Any good reason to break out boot like that? |
| 16:42.16 | asterismo_l | both primary or sda2 must be extended? |
| 16:42.40 | vlt | asterismo_l: Your fdisk shows "488M" but maybe that's just a MB vs. MiB thing. |
| 16:42.44 | *** join/#debian kliq (~cliq@199.38.233.214) |
| 16:42.45 | vlt | asterismo_l: both primary. |
| 16:42.55 | jelly | hyperlumic: yes. |
| 16:42.58 | vlt | hyperlumic: /boot is not encrypted. |
| 16:43.07 | hyperlumic | OH, I missed the part where this was encrypted. |
| 16:43.14 | asterismo_l | vlt, yes i always write 512MB and then it shows a little less |
| 16:43.15 | *** join/#debian darkhanb (~textual@ip24-253-117-170.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 16:43.24 | *** join/#debian kliq (~cliq@199.38.233.214) |
| 16:43.48 | asterismo_l | done |
| 16:43.54 | asterismo_l | fdisk -l? |
| 16:43.56 | jelly | asterismo_l: some is lots to metadata, some to filesystem 5% reservation |
| 16:43.59 | jelly | lost* |
| 16:44.19 | asterismo_l | jelly, sure |
| 16:44.33 | jelly | tho not applicable to fdisk output |
| 16:44.35 | *** join/#debian him-cesjf (~cesjf@unaffiliated/himcesjf) |
| 16:44.43 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@unaffiliated/mtn) |
| 16:44.52 | vlt | jelly: fdisk doesn't care for file systems |
| 16:45.46 | vlt | 500 * 1000 / 1024 == 488 |
| 16:46.06 | vlt | There's your difference. |
| 16:46.50 | asterismo_l | vlt, i'm ready |
| 16:47.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1558] by debhelper |
| 16:47.30 | vlt | asterismo_l: `ls -l /dev/sd*` and journal lines, please. |
| 16:48.23 | *** join/#debian naptastic (~naptastic@2620:0:28a2:4010:76d0:2bff:fe32:41ea) |
| 16:49.32 | vlt | asterismo_l: Now `mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/sda1` and sda2 to md2a'30 |
| 16:49.41 | vlt | -'30 |
| 16:50.06 | *** join/#debian argusbr (~online@unaffiliated/argusbr) |
| 16:50.17 | *** join/#debian Ptifou` (~Ptifou@102.156.193.245) |
| 16:50.20 | *** join/#debian yemel (~yemel@unaffiliated/yemel) |
| 16:51.24 | *** join/#debian mawesi_ (~mawesi@x5ce393b2.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 16:52.02 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014539/ |
| 16:53.12 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.65.133) |
| 16:53.27 | vlt | asterismo_l: Ok. |
| 16:53.47 | *** join/#debian wantasonTX (~sumdumn@102.156.193.245) |
| 16:53.47 | vlt | Let's see what mdadm does now. |
| 16:54.07 | asterismo_l | mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/sda1 |
| 16:54.22 | *** part/#debian naptastic (~naptastic@2620:0:28a2:4010:76d0:2bff:fe32:41ea) |
| 16:54.25 | asterismo_l | sorry |
| 16:54.44 | asterismo_l | mdadm: added /dev/sda1 |
| 16:54.52 | vlt | asterismo_l: Now md2 |
| 16:55.04 | asterismo_l | mdadm: added /dev/sda2 |
| 16:55.11 | vlt | asterismo_l: Well done! |
| 16:55.29 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@104.244.76.243) |
| 16:55.36 | *** join/#debian neoffreeman (~Mibbit@102.156.193.245) |
| 16:55.41 | vlt | asterismo_l: That will take a while. /proc/mdstat will tell you |
| 16:56.12 | asterismo_l | lsblk http://paste.debian.net/1014540/ |
| 16:56.45 | asterismo_l | i still see "ââbulldozer--vg-root 253:1 0 446,5G 0 lvm /" |
| 16:57.04 | *** join/#debian CarLiiNa (~CarLiiNa@102.156.193.245) |
| 16:57.10 | vlt | asterismo_l: That's good. It's still there ;) |
| 16:57.33 | asterismo_l | this is mdstat |
| 16:57.35 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014543/ |
| 16:58.05 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@104.244.76.243) |
| 16:58.07 | vlt | asterismo_l: Everything according to the prophecy. |
| 16:58.36 | vlt | Now you have to take care for your config files. |
| 16:58.41 | *** join/#debian jake16 (~jake16@102.156.193.245) |
| 16:58.47 | asterismo_l | yes |
| 16:59.15 | asterismo_l | vlt, but isn't the / partition fill to the whole tb? |
| 17:00.00 | vlt | asterismo_l: Damnit, could you please wait until the important things are done? |
| 17:00.20 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i577B2523.versanet.de) |
| 17:00.24 | asterismo_l | ok ok, will we get to that later? |
| 17:00.25 | jelly | don't you have two more layers to get up to the / filesystem |
| 17:00.30 | *** join/#debian Evol (~no@191.190.200.16) |
| 17:00.33 | asterismo_l | yes |
| 17:00.38 | asterismo_l | i'm sorry |
| 17:00.53 | *** join/#debian Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 17:01.20 | vlt | asterismo_l: Increasing the root file system is literally two commands later. |
| 17:01.26 | asterismo_l | k |
| 17:01.30 | asterismo_l | ok, great |
| 17:01.44 | vlt | asterismo_l: Both with "resize" in their name :-D |
| 17:01.51 | asterismo_l | i suppose i have to learn the new UUIDs etc |
| 17:01.57 | *** join/#debian mibo (~mibo@ip-89-102-225-136.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 17:01.59 | jelly | pv, luks then lvresize can do both LV and filesystem, with -r |
| 17:02.30 | *** join/#debian Noldorin (~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin) |
| 17:02.46 | vlt | jelly: Wow, then it's only one. Thank you! |
| 17:03.06 | jelly | yeah, it's a nice addition |
| 17:03.07 | *** join/#debian dasj (~daniel@151.236.10.152) |
| 17:03.48 | vlt | jelly: In most cases I have to resize my file systems separately because LVM is dealt with by the Xen host while the guest has the fs mouned. |
| 17:03.50 | jelly | calls xfs or ext3/4 thing automagically for you |
| 17:03.51 | vlt | +t |
| 17:04.29 | *** join/#debian Zfih (AdiIRC@x1-6-50-6a-03-e0-26-82.cpe.webspeed.dk) |
| 17:04.32 | jelly | I usually forget -r is there, because still have systems older than Debian 7 in places |
| 17:04.47 | *** join/#debian christine35 (~Mibbit@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:05.07 | *** join/#debian hypn0 (~h@unaffiliated/hypn0) |
| 17:05.41 | asterismo_l | now, config files, what do i have to edit? |
| 17:06.38 | asterismo_l | this is crypttab http://paste.debian.net/1014545/ |
| 17:06.44 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~galex-713@37.173.226.104) |
| 17:06.48 | *** join/#debian ChunkzZ1 (uid233645@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zzemumnkrjltvvmz) |
| 17:07.08 | *** join/#debian kyleboi16 (~me@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:07.14 | *** join/#debian ryzokuken (uid116283@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xgrnspcxhdrxaamw) |
| 17:07.14 | *** join/#debian autofsckk (~autofsckk@unaffiliated/autofsckk) |
| 17:08.15 | asterismo_l | this are disks by uuid: http://paste.debian.net/1014546/ |
| 17:08.23 | vlt | asterismo_l: Do you remember the list we created yesterday? |
| 17:08.27 | vlt | It's all in there. |
| 17:08.35 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@pool-108-49-75-58.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:08.41 | asterismo_l | edit /etc/default/grub |
| 17:09.27 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014547/ |
| 17:09.43 | vlt | asterismo_l: I like `blkid` to show me whatâs going on. |
| 17:10.30 | asterismo_l | blkid http://paste.debian.net/1014548/ |
| 17:10.32 | vlt | asterismo_l: Is this the default/grub that created your current (not valid anymore) grub.cfg? |
| 17:10.35 | *** join/#debian InfoTest (~Thunderbi@tgn.149.6.241.dts.mg) |
| 17:10.44 | vlt | No mention of cryptsetup in there? |
| 17:10.56 | asterismo_l | its debian 8 |
| 17:11.29 | *** join/#debian rippers (~Staff@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:11.58 | *** join/#debian GenteelBen (GenteelBen@cpc111801-lutn14-2-0-cust55.9-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:12.00 | vlt | 8b29... goes in crypttab, md0p5_crypt becomes md2_crypt |
| 17:12.13 | *** join/#debian GPenguin (~gpenguin@p200300DEF3D729FF29AB75BFE1BA2C1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:12.40 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~RebelCode@2a00:23c5:cd86:b200:e7ff:784c:d16a:1359) |
| 17:12.44 | vlt | asterismo_l: Wait, did you cryptsetup luksOpen before manually in dropbear? |
| 17:13.27 | *** join/#debian apollojustice (apollo@unaffiliated/apollojustice) |
| 17:13.42 | asterismo_l | what do you mean in dropbear? |
| 17:13.42 | *** join/#debian hkumar006c (~hkumar006@103.5.134.167) |
| 17:13.53 | *** join/#debian Huliogen (~Acrobat@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:14.05 | vlt | asterismo_l: Then you might not need something in grub.cfg Can you show the current /boot/grub/grub.cfg? |
| 17:14.28 | *** join/#debian sdoubleyou (~sdoubleyo@unaffiliated/sdouble25) |
| 17:14.33 | vlt | asterismo_l: What did you do before to unencrypt the LUKS device? |
| 17:14.40 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qilbmuufhnddeony) |
| 17:14.52 | *** join/#debian JustASlacker (~JustASlac@213.83.43.18) |
| 17:15.04 | asterismo_l | you mean when the system booted up? |
| 17:15.39 | *** join/#debian turfal (~Thunderbi@27.red-213-97-245.staticip.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:16.16 | *** join/#debian kazzord (~sailkaz@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:16.18 | asterismo_l | vlt, i followed lines from 9 to 15 http://paste.debian.net/1014552/ |
| 17:17.12 | vlt | asterismo_l: I meant, when you booted before you ripped out all disks containing a boot loader :D |
| 17:17.47 | *** join/#debian infek__ (~infek@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:17.53 | asterismo_l | you mean the boot partition? |
| 17:19.02 | asterismo_l | ups |
| 17:19.21 | asterismo_l | i think my boot partition is empty |
| 17:19.31 | asterismo_l | but i have a backup from yesterday |
| 17:19.39 | vlt | asterismo_l: no, you rsync'd it. |
| 17:19.56 | vlt | asterismo_l: Look at `ls -l /boot` |
| 17:20.12 | asterismo_l | total 0 |
| 17:20.16 | asterismo_l | lol |
| 17:20.19 | vlt | mount? |
| 17:20.27 | jelly | common mis taek: rsync before /boot is mounted |
| 17:20.43 | vlt | asterismo_l: Did you unmount it again? |
| 17:20.50 | jelly | but then lost+found would be there |
| 17:20.56 | vlt | Is it stikk mounted in /mnt/temp? |
| 17:21.00 | jelly | after it's mounted |
| 17:21.05 | *** join/#debian vbutnaru (~vbutnaru@92.86.36.158) |
| 17:21.10 | asterismo_l | step 20 |
| 17:21.10 | vlt | s/stikk/still |
| 17:21.45 | asterismo_l | YES |
| 17:21.47 | asterismo_l | is there |
| 17:21.52 | vlt | ok |
| 17:21.54 | asterismo_l | in /mnt/tempboot |
| 17:21.58 | *** join/#debian erratic (~erratic@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:22.12 | asterismo_l | i need to resync it to boot rigth? |
| 17:22.21 | asterismo_l | and mount it |
| 17:22.36 | vlt | No, just before running update-grub and co. later make sure you mount md1 to /boot |
| 17:22.52 | vlt | First umount from /mnt/temp, then munt to /boot |
| 17:23.33 | asterismo_l | umount: /mnt/tempboot/: not mounted |
| 17:23.47 | *** join/#debian frju365[IRC] (~frju365@yunohost/member/frju365) |
| 17:24.22 | *** join/#debian Phrk_ (~d@109.236.81.75) |
| 17:24.24 | asterismo_l | files are in /mnt/tempboot/ |
| 17:24.35 | asterismo_l | this is wrong |
| 17:24.38 | vlt | asterismo_l: Show us `mount` |
| 17:24.44 | Phrk_ | hi what's the thing to have ipset persistent ? |
| 17:25.11 | Phrk_ | (i try to put ipset restore in the iptables script like in the debian wiki, but it crashed my machine) |
| 17:25.14 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014553/ |
| 17:25.51 | *** join/#debian ikus060 (~ikus060@modemcable230.98-37-24.static.videotron.ca) |
| 17:26.27 | *** join/#debian Alceste (~Gill-@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:26.59 | greycat | Phrk_: which wiki page? I don't see any ipset on https://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 17:27.09 | vlt | asterismo_l: Ok, then you have to `mount /dev/md1 /boot; mv /mnt/tempboot/* /boot/` |
| 17:27.31 | Phrk_ | greycat, i tried to mimic the iptables way of doing |
| 17:27.40 | asterismo_l | done |
| 17:27.50 | asterismo_l | vlt, |
| 17:28.05 | asterismo_l | now lets find the grub file |
| 17:28.06 | Phrk_ | maybe it's a mistake since it doesn't work at all |
| 17:28.21 | *** join/#debian nobodi (~nobodi@142.157.13.172) |
| 17:28.27 | *** join/#debian redballpoint (~redballpo@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:28.29 | jelly | Phrk_: does it work when you do things manually? |
| 17:28.39 | Phrk_ | jelly, of course |
| 17:28.50 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 17:28.56 | vlt | asterismo_l: /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 17:29.07 | Phrk_ | networking.service doesn't crash without ipset |
| 17:29.22 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@104.244.76.243) |
| 17:29.39 | Phrk_ | only warning about ipset ref |
| 17:29.52 | *** join/#debian Anaximander (~textual@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:30.26 | *** join/#debian holmgren (magnus@h-70-93.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 17:30.48 | Phrk_ | in stretch there is a iptables-persistent package, any info about it ? |
| 17:30.52 | jelly | Phrk_: what crashes, precisely? Is there any output? If you have ipset-based iptables rules ipsets have to be set up before iptables |
| 17:31.12 | jelly | iptables-persistent only deals with iptables |
| 17:31.28 | asterismo_l | vlt, its a large file, it says do not edit this file. it is autogenerated? |
| 17:31.28 | *** join/#debian Informant_ (~Informant@aftr-88-217-180-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 17:31.36 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014554/ |
| 17:31.48 | tw | Technically, the sets only need to be created so the netfilter ipset module can find it. They don't have to be populated yet. |
| 17:32.00 | vlt | asterismo_l: Yes, using /etc/default/grub, which is mostly empty in your case. |
| 17:32.30 | *** join/#debian clemens3 (~clemens@80-218-38-71.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:32.38 | asterismo_l | grub-install then? |
| 17:33.40 | DammitJim | if I want to encrypt the "hard drives" of a server, do I have to basically set up a new Debian server? |
| 17:33.45 | DammitJim | or can one encrypt it on the fly? |
| 17:33.46 | Phrk_ | well ok, but where i can put the script ? |
| 17:34.19 | tw | DammitJim: easier to reinstall. |
| 17:34.40 | DammitJim | do you guys have a recommended doc to follow? |
| 17:34.51 | vlt | DammitJim: To encrypt on the fly is quite easy if your root fs is (also) on LVM. |
| 17:35.00 | DammitJim | yeah, we are using LVM |
| 17:35.09 | Phrk_ | jelly, journalctl is not very verbose for the error |
| 17:35.27 | vlt | DammitJim: Is md raid involved? |
| 17:35.42 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.148.18) |
| 17:35.47 | *** join/#debian mahafyi (~chatzilla@42.111.136.123) |
| 17:35.49 | Phrk_ | I taught there was a easy answer, and I'm lazy to set up a vm machine to test it |
| 17:36.16 | DammitJim | vlt, remind me about md raid? |
| 17:36.32 | *** join/#debian Guest34659 (~rwalker@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:36.56 | *** join/#debian michaelni (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 17:37.25 | jelly | Phrk_: yeah I don't think there's something easier than "write a plugin for netfilter-persistent that looks similar to iptables-persistent and make sure they run in correct order" |
| 17:38.17 | mahafyi | hello, I have Debian 9.4 with Gnome and I am experiencing random system freezes after sleep. I tried to add udev rule for the keyboard wake up, and also systemctl mask all acpi targets sleep, suspend, hybrid-sleep and hibernate. It happens on various desktops, but some run well, others have this issue. |
| 17:38.37 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@abum64.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:38.39 | *** join/#debian LioneLL (~Pidgin@men13-2-82-224-174-71.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:39.10 | Phrk_ | ipset and iptables are like the most important tools for network... |
| 17:39.14 | vlt | DammitJim: How many disks are currently in the server and how are they set up? |
| 17:39.41 | jelly | yeah no, ipset is not used that often |
| 17:39.51 | *** join/#debian qqx (~qqx@pug.qqx.org) |
| 17:40.06 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@104.244.76.243) |
| 17:40.30 | *** join/#debian hkumar006c (~hkumar006@103.5.134.167) |
| 17:40.48 | jelly | Phrk_: in any case ranting won't get scripts written, get to it! And submit to debian when it's done plz kthx |
| 17:41.02 | DammitJim | vlt, it varies... I have some that have 1 disk |
| 17:41.26 | DammitJim | I have some that have multiple, so we can take it a step at a time with the simplest case |
| 17:41.37 | DammitJim | now, I don't think there is RAID here since they are all Virtual Disks |
| 17:41.38 | DammitJim | in a vm |
| 17:41.45 | vlt | asterismo_l: You can try an `update-grub` but I think we need help of others more experienced with the boot process. |
| 17:41.54 | DammitJim | all this stuff these days is like peeling an onion |
| 17:42.07 | mahafyi | also can anyone point me to how I can set the hostname that will be discoverable in LAN (the systems use dhcp ipv4) |
| 17:42.13 | *** join/#debian holden- (~holden-@unaffiliated/holden-) |
| 17:42.15 | *** join/#debian harish__ (~hkumar006@2a07:241:1:4000::d25) |
| 17:43.20 | jelly | mahafyi: option host-name in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, maybe? I'm just guessing. Might not be enough or might be wrong. |
| 17:43.20 | spacemn | mahafyi: like avahi/mdnssd |
| 17:43.24 | spacemn | ? |
| 17:43.47 | asterismo_l | and what about dropbear? |
| 17:43.55 | *** join/#debian blondie101010 (4a3a31d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.58.49.215) |
| 17:43.56 | jelly | if you haven't disabled avahi-daemon it will Just Work regardless of dhcp |
| 17:43.59 | *** part/#debian blondie101010 (4a3a31d7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.58.49.215) |
| 17:44.15 | jelly | s/will/should/ |
| 17:44.16 | Phrk_ | jelly, so can you show me how to access to the source, packet info and co ? On archlinux it's so easy there is pkgbuild and co, on debian i'm total lost |
| 17:44.18 | vlt | DammitJim: Ok, no raid to borrow an empty disk from. Check if you can free some space for a new PV to encrypt and then pvmove to. |
| 17:44.19 | alkisg | mahafyi: with avahi, if your hostname is pc01, you can ping it from other pcs like "ping pc01.local" |
| 17:44.22 | *** join/#debian tomko (~tomko@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:44.30 | alkisg | Otherwise you need a dns server |
| 17:44.33 | greycat | Phrk_: /msg dpkg source |
| 17:44.35 | mahafyi | ok thanks : that i will try |
| 17:44.52 | vlt | asterismo_l: grub, once instaled, is supposed to run your initrd image containing dropbear. |
| 17:45.30 | jelly | Phrk_: this would probably have to go into a separate new package similar to iptables-persistent, so grab source package of that one and see how it works |
| 17:46.07 | jelly | but maybe write the script first and worry about proper packaging later |
| 17:46.17 | mahafyi | i am using only main in my spurces.list ; should one add contrib and non-free also to obtain a very stable system. This is with regards to system freezing up sometimes, especially after sleep |
| 17:46.24 | Phrk_ | ye but where do i get the soruce ? |
| 17:46.25 | *** join/#debian qetti (~eti@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:46.27 | mahafyi | sources.lsit i meant |
| 17:46.55 | jelly | Phrk_: ask the bot: /msg dpkg deb-src, /msg dpkg source |
| 17:47.32 | mahafyi | also, for Desktop i used amd64 arch, should it better to use i386 only? |
| 17:47.33 | spacemn | mahafyi: nah, it depends on how well the HW is supported, I've had good results with a notebook with only Intel HW |
| 17:47.43 | jelly | mahafyi: amd64 is just fine |
| 17:48.08 | mahafyi | how to identfy the cause for a freeze, i mean, what files should i look at? |
| 17:48.15 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@pool-108-49-75-58.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:49.17 | *** join/#debian CodeBlue1776 (~CodeBlue1@107-215-134-60.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:49.21 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87) |
| 17:49.44 | asterismo_l | ok |
| 17:50.18 | spacemn | mahafyi: kernel logs, search for oops or other errors |
| 17:50.50 | jelly | except if the system really freezes you won't find anything useful in logs |
| 17:50.50 | mahafyi | search term will have 'oops'? |
| 17:51.14 | spacemn | mahafyi: there was an old guide that explained the steps to troubleshoot sleep/resume problems |
| 17:51.20 | mahafyi | jelly: the keyboard and mouse do not work at all, i have to power it back on |
| 17:51.26 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:51.40 | jelly | mahafyi: does it answer to ping on ethernet? |
| 17:51.40 | *** join/#debian fjord (~astro@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:51.57 | mahafyi | jelly: i have to check next time |
| 17:52.12 | *** join/#debian nix64bit (~Thunderbi@197.155.4.163) |
| 17:52.33 | jelly | sometimes it's only the console graphics that are frozen |
| 17:52.53 | asterismo_l | vlt, i get warnings that cannot find volume <null> |
| 17:53.00 | asterismo_l | when updating grub |
| 17:53.01 | jelly | but usually if resume fails it fails badly |
| 17:53.03 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1014558/ |
| 17:53.12 | mahafyi | jelly thanks. the Dell systems come with Nvidia GPU |
| 17:53.21 | spacemn | mahafyi: you always had troubles or started recently? |
| 17:53.42 | mahafyi | spacemn : i am using Linux only for a week or so now |
| 17:53.57 | *** join/#debian navlys (~smuxi@ip-78.net-80-236-35.suresnes.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:54.00 | jelly | mahafyi: free nouveau driver or non-free nvidia blob? |
| 17:54.03 | spacemn | mahafyi: ah OK, so it's not a SW regression |
| 17:54.21 | mahafyi | jelly : i do not know |
| 17:54.47 | jelly | mahafyi: does this have any output? lsmod|grep nouveau |
| 17:54.59 | jelly | if so, you're using the free driver |
| 17:55.10 | *** join/#debian Marvel (~Marvel@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:55.21 | *** join/#debian format_c (~koeppea@unaffiliated/format-c/x-8927423) |
| 17:55.22 | jelly | and that one is rather buggy on some (many?) card chips |
| 17:55.37 | GPenguin | is there a way to have "dpkg -l" output in a different order? sorted be install date would be useful |
| 17:55.54 | jelly | GPenguin: install date is not stored anywhere |
| 17:55.57 | mahafyi | i see . i wil ltry and add the non-free and update it |
| 17:56.00 | asterismo_l | vlt, i edited crypttab, now i havo to edit mdadm.conf and fstab |
| 17:56.01 | cusco | systemctl is returning: Failed to get properties: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1: Permission denied |
| 17:56.04 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.148.18) |
| 17:56.07 | cusco | what should I look at? |
| 17:56.11 | GPenguin | jelly: it is stored in /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 17:56.15 | jelly | GPenguin: except indirectly in dpkg, apt or aptitude logs |
| 17:56.21 | GPenguin | yep |
| 17:56.30 | greycat | cusco: well, I would start by looking at the permissions. |
| 17:56.45 | mahafyi | spacemn : after reading, i was thinking that it may be that i have do downgrade to jessie or upgrade to buster |
| 17:56.50 | *** join/#debian czart_ (~czart@dls44.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:57.15 | mahafyi | actually, i was running 9.3 and upgraded to 9.4 just now, so maybe it will be better already |
| 17:57.16 | jelly | GPenguin: install date is not storedf anywhere in an obviously useful manner. |
| 17:57.17 | *** join/#debian Nibiru (~XtG@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:57.53 | GPenguin | i grep 5 times and then the result looks useful |
| 17:57.54 | jelly | mahafyi: debian does not get very many driver fixes in its kernel patches. |
| 17:58.05 | mahafyi | also , do i need ntpd (which i installed) ? but maybe i only need ntpdate? |
| 17:58.22 | asterismo_l | vlt, raid sync is in 33%, after fixing config files, what is left to do? |
| 17:58.25 | greycat | ntp is good to have. ntpdate is not required (not for many years). |
| 17:58.39 | *** join/#debian Gaaab (~Gaaab@host161-140-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:58.46 | greycat | The original purpose and functionality of ntpdate has been absorbed into the ntp package. |
| 17:59.05 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 17:59.35 | *** join/#debian rippers (~Staff@102.156.193.245) |
| 17:59.57 | jelly | good thing you qualified the "original" purpose :> |
| 18:00.14 | greycat | What fools use it for is another question. |
| 18:00.22 | mahafyi | the worst thing is , two identical desktops and one is running fine, lol |
| 18:00.32 | jelly | systems with very, very broken clocks |
| 18:00.34 | *** join/#debian nuno_nunes (~PC@93.102.2.46.rev.optimus.pt) |
| 18:01.19 | *** join/#debian a_l_b (~a_l_b@eduroam-gw.univ-lehavre.fr) |
| 18:01.19 | *** join/#debian eMaks (~eMaks@unaffiliated/emaks) |
| 18:01.26 | mahafyi | i asked as i read from some user experience that when they removed ntpd, in manjaro, the problem of gnome freezing went away |
| 18:01.38 | RoyK | how can I see the update history for a package? something between jessie and stretch broke ipv6-only support in x11vnc, that is, from 0.9.13-1.2 to 0.9.13-2 |
| 18:02.02 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 18:02.03 | greycat | mahafyi: I'm certain that there are 10s of thousands of Debian users who have both GNOME and ntp installed and don't have serious problems. |
| 18:02.08 | jelly | RoyK: each package keeps a changelog in /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 18:02.16 | mahafyi | greycat : thanks |
| 18:02.17 | asterismo_l | vlt, cannot install grub in sdc because its gpt |
| 18:02.29 | *** join/#debian neoffreeman (~neo_@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:02.35 | *** join/#debian err404_ (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 18:02.41 | *** join/#debian harish__ (~hkumar006@103.5.134.167) |
| 18:02.51 | *** join/#debian d-fence_ (~quassel@host-95-182-235-207.dynamic.voo.be) |
| 18:03.02 | hyperlumic | asterismo_l: You have to have a 1-2MiB BIOS boot partition at the start of each GPT disk for GRUB. |
| 18:03.10 | hyperlumic | Each GPT disk you want GRUB on, anyway. |
| 18:03.24 | *** join/#debian rav3nsword (~rav3nsw0r@2601:249:100:4c26:351a:de41:344e:aa7d) |
| 18:03.59 | asterismo_l | grub-install complains on embedd is not possible... gpt bla bla |
| 18:04.00 | annadane | people use gnome?! |
| 18:04.01 | greycat | hyperlumic: Funny, my home computer boots, and does not have that. |
| 18:04.06 | jelly | asterismo_l: wasn't there talk about making such a partition at sectors offset 64-2047 inclusive a couple hours ago? |
| 18:04.07 | greycat | annadane: I know, right |
| 18:04.12 | RoyK | jelly: none of the two look relevant - it's about https://bugs.launchpad.net/raspbian/+bug/1755276 - same thing on debian as raspbian - I checked |
| 18:04.34 | *** join/#debian IRPG (~IDLE@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:04.37 | asterismo_l | jelly, yes, but on that drive i created a dos after that |
| 18:04.42 | hyperlumic | greycat: Funny, the plural of anecdote isn't data. |
| 18:04.49 | *** join/#debian moozer (~moz@80-62-116-180-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 18:04.55 | mahafyi | which is better X than gnome? |
| 18:04.56 | asterismo_l | gpt i created previously on the other disk |
| 18:04.59 | greycat | hyperlumic: http://paste.debian.net/1014560/ |
| 18:05.13 | greycat | hyperlumic: it only takes one counterexample to disprove a generalized statement |
| 18:05.24 | jelly | RoyK: do affected and unaffected systems have different values for bindv6only sysctl? |
| 18:05.36 | hyperlumic | greycat: You're booting EFI. That "BIOS boot" thing was kinda specific. |
| 18:05.57 | *** join/#debian PsySc0rpi0n (~PsySc0rpi@77.81.226.51) |
| 18:06.00 | jelly | RoyK: /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf:net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0 |
| 18:06.34 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~RebelCode@2a00:23c5:cd86:b200:e7ff:784c:d16a:1359) |
| 18:06.45 | hyperlumic | greycat: If he's getting the "grub embedding" error, he's not using GRUB in EFI mode. |
| 18:06.48 | RoyK | jelly: zero on both systems |
| 18:06.54 | *** join/#debian lvteenbriefs (~lvteenbri@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:07.03 | RoyK | as from sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only |
| 18:07.11 | jelly | RoyK: effective value? :-) Right |
| 18:07.16 | jelly | ninjad |
| 18:07.32 | RoyK | jelly: anyway - see the strace - it binds to inet6 on both ports |
| 18:07.40 | *** join/#debian volodim (~volodim@81.171.7.101) |
| 18:07.45 | jelly | yeah that's weird |
| 18:07.51 | RoyK | indeed |
| 18:07.57 | jelly | RoyK: what happens if you install jessie packages on stretch? |
| 18:08.00 | RoyK | setup a laptop with stretch today - same thing |
| 18:08.09 | RoyK | haven't tried - found a way around it |
| 18:08.18 | RoyK | just wanted to report it |
| 18:08.21 | jelly | (I say packages because some deps might be needed as well) |
| 18:08.32 | RoyK | and so mess up dpkg :þ |
| 18:08.36 | RoyK | or apt or whatever |
| 18:08.52 | jelly | RoyK: oh. Okay. Wrong place to report tho, noone reads irc for bug reports |
| 18:09.06 | jelly | !reportbug |
| 18:09.06 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, or <reportbug MTA> |
| 18:09.09 | jelly | if you really care |
| 18:09.17 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 18:09.18 | RoyK | does |
| 18:09.59 | *** join/#debian sevaho (~sevaho@ptr-frc33d002meie3s8b3f.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:10.05 | *** join/#debian busyqueer (~emains@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:10.27 | jelly | is... is there any change in behaviour if you go back to bindv6only=1? Probably not |
| 18:10.35 | RoyK | jelly: will check |
| 18:10.35 | *** join/#debian rav3n (~rav3nsw0r@unaffiliated/rav3nsw0rd) |
| 18:10.42 | RoyK | nah |
| 18:10.59 | RoyK | can't be bothered, really - the systemcalls specifically states IPv6 |
| 18:11.17 | RoyK | s/states/specify/ |
| 18:11.57 | *** join/#debian volodim (~volodim@81.171.30.150) |
| 18:13.23 | *** join/#debian CANCER (~CIG@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:13.39 | *** join/#debian DrWatson (~DrWatson_@p549CE797.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:13.44 | *** join/#debian ChmEarl (~chmearl@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 18:13.49 | *** join/#debian z0 (~zzz@2001:8a0:ca39:a301:5128:899d:ea63:c4c3) |
| 18:14.15 | asterismo_l | i need help to fix this file in order to raid devices start ok |
| 18:14.24 | asterismo_l | this was before, http://paste.debian.net/1014563/ |
| 18:14.44 | asterismo_l | now i have other md devices and other uuids? |
| 18:16.28 | *** join/#debian sam16 (~sam16@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:17.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1565] by debhelper |
| 18:17.31 | frostschutz | asterismo_l, you can see the raid uuid with mdadm --detail /dev/mdX. or get a list with mdadm --detail --scan. You only need "/dev/mdX UUID=a:b:c:d" for each array, not any of the other stuff |
| 18:18.19 | *** join/#debian yans (~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen) |
| 18:18.36 | asterismo_l | frostschutz, thanks |
| 18:18.44 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@14-203-204-45.tpgi.com.au) |
| 18:18.53 | *** join/#debian Kitija (~Kitija@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:19.04 | *** join/#debian a_l_b (~a_l_b@190.108.140.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 18:19.31 | asterismo_l | frostschutz, the scan provides the very line for mdadm... |
| 18:21.09 | frostschutz | it is often used like that, but what it provides is too verbose actually... |
| 18:21.49 | *** join/#debian RompWithJoy (~ForSped@102.156.193.245) |
| 18:25.17 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.65.133) |
| 18:25.53 | *** join/#debian arora (~ashok@92.99.139.82) |
| 18:26.00 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 18:28.52 | *** join/#debian Saracen (~Saracen@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:29.04 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@249.59.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 18:29.41 | *** join/#debian erdave (~erdave@186-95-249-253.genericrev.cantv.net) |
| 18:29.56 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-131-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 18:31.42 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 18:32.20 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@104.244.76.243) |
| 18:32.55 | *** join/#debian LambdaCalculus37 (~robert@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) |
| 18:34.31 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 18:34.36 | *** join/#debian eatme (~PortableP@h83-209-255-42.cust.se.alltele.net) |
| 18:35.54 | *** join/#debian Quetonix (~Quetonix@cpc116592-blbn11-2-0-cust146.10-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 18:36.23 | *** join/#debian Cartman__ (~irc@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:37.14 | vlt | asterismo_l: To get rid of gpt I suggested earlier to wait for the sync to finish, then remove sdc from the raids, reformat it dos style and re-add the new partitons. |
| 18:37.39 | asterismo_l | vlt, ok |
| 18:37.40 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@168.205.151.113) |
| 18:38.10 | asterismo_l | it is on 50% |
| 18:38.11 | *** join/#debian adrian111 (~adrian111@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:38.25 | asterismo_l | so i'll be back in a couple of hours |
| 18:38.44 | vlt | asterismo_l: To edit mdadm.conf you can use the data provided by `mdadm --detail /dev/md1` and md2 |
| 18:38.47 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 18:39.42 | asterismo_l | i have edited that |
| 18:39.43 | *** join/#debian leon- (~brt@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:39.48 | asterismo_l | it looks fine |
| 18:40.15 | *** join/#debian Informant (~Informant@ip3.ip-137-74-65.eu) |
| 18:40.23 | *** part/#debian mylinux_ (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 18:41.00 | asterismo_l | i'll be back around 21 UTC |
| 18:41.17 | *** join/#debian Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@archlinux/op/namarrgon) |
| 18:41.19 | *** join/#debian vbutnaru_ (~vbutnaru@92.86.51.173) |
| 18:41.54 | *** join/#debian JunkRat19 (~root@c-98-212-185-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:42.16 | *** part/#debian JunkRat19 (~root@c-98-212-185-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 18:43.22 | *** join/#debian evilman_work (~evilman@87.244.6.228) |
| 18:43.27 | *** join/#debian bryan (~bryan@173-165-247-93-minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 18:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1555] by debhelper |
| 18:47.14 | *** join/#debian azur_kind (~azur_kind@84-75-108-27.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:47.53 | *** join/#debian bolt (~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 18:48.04 | *** join/#debian scrabblecrea (~scrabble_@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:48.38 | *** join/#debian JohnDoh (~jeff@unaffiliated/johndoh) |
| 18:49.17 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 18:49.40 | *** join/#debian Neel (~OtakuSenp@117.194.199.231) |
| 18:50.30 | *** join/#debian palmerston (~kvirc@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:51.47 | *** join/#debian rypervenche (~rypervenc@unaffiliated/rypervenche) |
| 18:51.50 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.90.133.50) |
| 18:52.24 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@unaffiliated/towo/x-4064351) |
| 18:52.25 | *** join/#debian lilcumbunny (~bunnyfckt@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:55.06 | *** join/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 18:55.23 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 18:55.49 | *** part/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 18:56.33 | *** join/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 18:56.42 | *** join/#debian james41382_ (~james4138@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 18:57.02 | *** part/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 18:57.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1561] by debhelper |
| 18:57.11 | *** join/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 18:57.50 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@168.205.151.113) |
| 18:57.57 | *** join/#debian FraGManiA_ (~FraGManiA@095-097-171-250.static.chello.nl) |
| 18:58.30 | *** join/#debian scream (~scream@unaffiliated/scream) |
| 18:58.35 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@168.205.151.113) |
| 18:59.33 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@168.205.151.113) |
| 18:59.42 | *** part/#debian autofsckk (~autofsckk@unaffiliated/autofsckk) |
| 19:00.24 | *** join/#debian Quatroking (~Quatrokin@507098BE.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 19:00.27 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@168.205.151.113) |
| 19:00.37 | *** join/#debian navlys (~smuxi@ip-78.net-80-236-35.suresnes.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:00.44 | *** join/#debian Pr0t0n (~sd@LFbn-DIJ-1-43-146.w90-62.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:00.45 | *** join/#debian kopper (~mrbabar@unaffiliated/kopper) |
| 19:03.26 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james4138@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 19:07.00 | *** join/#debian maxdawid (~maxdawid@109241185065.katowice.vectranet.pl) |
| 19:07.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1554] by debhelper |
| 19:07.42 | *** join/#debian Darcidride_ (~Darcidrid@2a01:e35:8b4a:ca10::719e:e3e1) |
| 19:09.08 | *** join/#debian skipshooter (~markie@66.45.232.126) |
| 19:09.11 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@199.201.65.133) |
| 19:10.50 | *** join/#debian Smithe (~Smithe@151.38.48.108) |
| 19:11.56 | *** join/#debian Morph4me2 (~Morph4me2@67.193.214.25) |
| 19:13.41 | *** join/#debian bites (~bites@dhcp-212-231.vpn.tu-berlin.de) |
| 19:15.33 | *** join/#debian Kirua (~Ging@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:15.34 | *** join/#debian kus_ubuntui686 (~kus@149.4.106.56) |
| 19:16.29 | *** join/#debian HugsWontletgo (~HugsWontl@212.3.199.134) |
| 19:16.56 | *** join/#debian hkw (~hkw@210.124.147.238) |
| 19:17.34 | *** join/#debian carbon60 (~adam@75.98.136.34) |
| 19:17.57 | *** join/#debian bitess (~bites@dhcp-215-89.vpn.tu-berlin.de) |
| 19:19.01 | *** part/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 19:19.24 | *** join/#debian shannara (~Stanislas@94.239.241.178) |
| 19:19.34 | *** join/#debian emucla_ (~emucla@217.12.117.91.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com) |
| 19:21.15 | *** join/#debian DieMoesch (~thomas@xdsl-78-35-178-136.netcologne.de) |
| 19:24.33 | *** join/#debian pierrepala (~pierrepal@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:26.21 | *** join/#debian Ignacy (~Ignacy@82.102.20.219) |
| 19:26.35 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@98.210.76.223) |
| 19:26.43 | *** join/#debian Tio (~Tio@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1560] by debhelper |
| 19:29.08 | *** join/#debian Arfyx (~chatzilla@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:30.26 | *** join/#debian bites (~bites@dhcp-214-8.vpn.tu-berlin.de) |
| 19:31.20 | *** join/#debian areyouloco (~areyouloc@5.79.86.129) |
| 19:32.19 | *** join/#debian tymczenko (~tymczenko@unaffiliated/tymczenko) |
| 19:34.10 | *** join/#debian ScottPilgrim (~ScottPilg@S0106b81619e87e72.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 19:34.50 | *** join/#debian gagrio_ (~gagrio@ip-62-245-105-188.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 19:35.05 | *** join/#debian JustASlacker (~JustASlac@213.83.43.18) |
| 19:36.50 | *** join/#debian ealfonso` (~user@99.151.5.92) |
| 19:36.57 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 19:37.08 | *** join/#debian ahi2 (~ahi2@unaffiliated/ahi2) |
| 19:37.20 | *** join/#debian krytarik (~krytarik@xebian/developer/krytarik) |
| 19:37.43 | *** part/#debian ahi2 (~ahi2@unaffiliated/ahi2) |
| 19:38.09 | luna_ | Firefox 59 is now out :) |
| 19:38.19 | *** part/#debian carbon60 (~adam@75.98.136.34) |
| 19:38.32 | *** join/#debian Gubby (~69e061a1@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:39.08 | annadane | now with more invasive tracking! |
| 19:39.11 | annadane | (kidding) |
| 19:40.56 | *** join/#debian hbautista (~hbautista@189.201.191.13) |
| 19:42.31 | *** join/#debian firebird__ (~firebird_@81-64-57-173.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:42.51 | *** join/#debian shakraw (~shakraw@host23-60-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:43.18 | *** join/#debian mylinux (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 19:43.37 | hypn0 | they added that cookie thing :-/ |
| 19:44.25 | *** join/#debian troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) |
| 19:44.51 | hypn0 | were you counting the seconds :-) |
| 19:45.57 | greycat | Does it still require Pulse for audio? |
| 19:46.06 | *** join/#debian Schmetterwurm (~Schmetter@p4FDA9399.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1566] by debhelper |
| 19:47.03 | *** join/#debian abimak (~OS-36666@78.152.243.205) |
| 19:47.52 | *** join/#debian donald (~donald@vbo91-6-78-245-241-67.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:48.05 | *** join/#debian fujisan (uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ryssrlgbnqxlesee) |
| 19:48.14 | *** join/#debian Dan16UK (~me@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:48.40 | *** join/#debian mylinux_ (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 19:49.13 | *** join/#debian keith20 (~keith20@104.254.90.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) |
| 19:49.58 | *** join/#debian skipshooter (~markie@ool-457e6ee0.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:50.15 | *** join/#debian keith20 (~keith20@104.254.90.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) |
| 19:50.46 | *** join/#debian keith20 (~keith20@104.254.90.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) |
| 19:51.50 | *** join/#debian keith20 (~keith20@104.254.90.179.adsl.inet-telecom.org) |
| 19:51.55 | donald | I want to qwickly set up a vm to do programming. I need to share folder between the guest and the host. I follow the manual https://spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html and particulary at Folder sharing chapter. I did File=> preferences => new folder. Sadly I do not see the connection between the guest and the host in the guest system. can you reproduce that to show the error please? I did nnot do --spice-share-dir becaue I just want |
| 19:51.55 | donald | o do it qwickly and graphically. Thank you. |
| 19:52.00 | *** join/#debian Levure (~quassel@91.180.45.182) |
| 19:52.34 | *** join/#debian eki (~eki@dsl-hkibng41-567327-143.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 19:53.44 | *** join/#debian DeadTOm (~deadtom@2001:4b98:dc0:41:216:3eff:fe58:44d0) |
| 19:55.52 | *** join/#debian eshlox (uid44222@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-igbkysajclkgrpkb) |
| 19:56.42 | *** join/#debian gryffus_ (~gryffus@unaffiliated/gryffus) |
| 19:57.42 | *** join/#debian Madie (~Madie@102.156.193.245) |
| 19:58.21 | *** join/#debian carbon60 (~adam@75.98.136.34) |
| 19:58.33 | carbon60 | Anyone know where to put system-wide wireshark/tshark defaults? |
| 19:59.39 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (chris@2001:470:4b:38f:777::868c) |
| 19:59.49 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@189.90.160.121) |
| 20:00.48 | *** join/#debian DARK (~DARK@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:01.23 | *** join/#debian elfmagi (~manjaro-i@24.248.203.157) |
| 20:01.41 | petemc | carbon60: /etc/wireshark/ probably |
| 20:02.01 | carbon60 | petemc: I created an /etc/wireshark/preferences file, didnât work. |
| 20:02.29 | *** join/#debian OS-36666 (~OS-36666@78.152.243.205) |
| 20:03.10 | *** join/#debian Hestben (~robert@ua-83-226-77-74.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:03.13 | petemc | dunno, never tried myself |
| 20:03.18 | *** join/#debian wowas (~mario@ppp-212-87-139-254.pool2.filstalnetz.de) |
| 20:03.52 | petemc | seems there is an issue.. |
| 20:03.56 | petemc | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=858985 |
| 20:03.57 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/858985 in wireshark (open): «wireshark: Does not read global configs from /etc»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-03-29; last modified: 2017-03-29. |
| 20:04.23 | *** join/#debian sex____ (~aaaaaaaaa@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:04.24 | *** join/#debian ksx4system (~ksx4syste@aura.mgst.eu) |
| 20:04.40 | carbon60 | Thanks petemc, good catch. |
| 20:04.45 | *** join/#debian intcat (~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat) |
| 20:04.59 | petemc | np |
| 20:05.11 | *** join/#debian galex-713_ (~galex-713@2a01:e0a:54:cb90:a8d:eeb9:e249:ce2c) |
| 20:05.42 | *** join/#debian scream (~scream@unaffiliated/scream) |
| 20:08.15 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (~NEOalquim@240.148.205.168.dynamic.raidnet.com.br) |
| 20:09.04 | *** join/#debian acutelittle (~samhe@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:09.18 | *** join/#debian jjmonrod (~jjmonrod@2a02:8108:4b40:4a5c:cc2:e239:d035:e932) |
| 20:09.36 | *** join/#debian flappy (~flappy@88-113-154-4.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:11.15 | *** join/#debian cCkw (~RW@179.187.76.242.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 20:11.23 | *** join/#debian kus_ubuntui686 (~kus@149.4.106.56) |
| 20:11.51 | *** join/#debian shakraw (~shakraw@host23-60-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:11.56 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@88.190.91.91) |
| 20:11.57 | *** join/#debian eatme (~PortableP@h83-209-255-42.cust.se.alltele.net) |
| 20:14.39 | *** join/#debian peji (~peji@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:17.38 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~galex-713@37.173.164.208) |
| 20:18.06 | *** join/#debian Elirips (~Elirips@242.109.22.178.ftth.as8758.net) |
| 20:18.43 | *** join/#debian kus_ubuntui686 (~kus@149.4.106.56) |
| 20:21.49 | *** join/#debian sk8er (~sk8er@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:24.47 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@xdsl-87-79-148-208.netcologne.de) |
| 20:24.52 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 20:28.13 | *** join/#debian shakraw (~shakraw@host247-180-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:30.18 | *** join/#debian UKKidluvr (~x@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:32.14 | *** join/#debian st-gourichon-fid (~Stephane@chez.gourichon.org) |
| 20:32.18 | *** join/#debian Plain-weird (~plain@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:34.51 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 20:34.52 | *** join/#debian handpicked (~handpicke@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:36.03 | *** join/#debian galex-713_ (~galex-713@2a01:e0a:54:cb90:a8d:eeb9:e249:ce2c) |
| 20:36.37 | *** join/#debian pims (~woops@78.194.37.29) |
| 20:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1559] by debhelper |
| 20:38.21 | *** join/#debian OS-36867 (~OS-36867@39.75.202.84.customer.cdi.no) |
| 20:39.13 | *** join/#debian m3pow (~m3pow@31.14.36.146) |
| 20:39.15 | *** join/#debian Modeuse (~kvirc@x8d1ee220.agdsn.tu-dresden.de) |
| 20:39.17 | *** join/#debian smart` (~bogus@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:39.33 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 20:39.58 | *** join/#debian philippirrip (~philippir@149.4.106.56) |
| 20:40.47 | *** join/#debian philippirrip (~philippir@149.4.106.56) |
| 20:41.03 | *** join/#debian kus_ubuntui686 (~kus@149.4.106.56) |
| 20:41.26 | *** join/#debian ChunkzZ1 (uid233645@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yefjzhgkzxqkhkdl) |
| 20:41.49 | vlt | returns at 10:00 UTC |
| 20:42.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 20:42.38 | *** join/#debian rippers (~Staff@102.156.193.245) |
| 20:42.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a different in the 50unattended-upgrades file between jessie and strech? is the syntax changed? |
| 20:43.52 | *** join/#debian zophyx (~zophyx@2600:1011:b11f:d22a:94d:da4f:5fc0:dc86) |
| 20:44.37 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~galex-713@37.173.164.208) |
| 20:44.44 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@179.183.226.120) |
| 20:45.24 | *** join/#debian nobodi (~nobodi@142.157.13.155) |
| 20:45.51 | *** join/#debian mzf (~fakhraee@unaffiliated/mzf) |
| 20:46.32 | *** join/#debian sh00p (~z@84-216-39-31.customers.ownit.se) |
| 20:49.56 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 20:52.53 | *** join/#debian quest (~quest@nerdzik.pl) |
| 20:53.40 | *** join/#debian mquin (~mike@freenode/staff/mquin) |
| 20:54.35 | *** join/#debian NeoBlaster (~N3oBl@st3r.net) |
| 20:55.02 | *** join/#debian Zyferus (Zyferus@172-3-154-217.lightspeed.mssnks.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:59.22 | *** join/#debian yans (~yans@unaffiliated/yinsen) |
| 21:00.39 | *** join/#debian holmgren (magnus@h-70-93.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 21:02.29 | *** join/#debian daggs1 (~dagg@176.231.102.94) |
| 21:02.52 | daggs1 | Greetings, how can I add a dummy network interface on boot? |
| 21:03.16 | *** join/#debian eatme (~PortableP@h83-209-255-42.cust.se.alltele.net) |
| 21:03.53 | *** join/#debian carbon60 (~adam@24.114.81.176) |
| 21:04.10 | *** join/#debian dmkeast (~dmkeast@host86-159-37-62.range86-159.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:07.59 | *** join/#debian kouni (~kouni@101.15.183.118) |
| 21:09.29 | *** join/#debian kouni (~kouni@101.15.183.118) |
| 21:10.48 | *** join/#debian adept__ (~adept@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:12.08 | *** join/#debian czesmir_ (~stefan@abrh153.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:12.30 | *** join/#debian gagrio (~gagrio@ip-62-245-105-188.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 21:12.56 | *** join/#debian JustASlacker (~JustASlac@213.83.43.18) |
| 21:13.21 | *** join/#debian chip_ (~chip@80.12.34.160) |
| 21:16.37 | *** join/#debian ralf_ (~steerpike@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:16.48 | *** join/#debian hemebond (~james@2406:e007:7324:1:dd6d:6a67:a9b5:e077) |
| 21:17.40 | hemebond | Last night I set up Japanese input on my Debian Gnome Shell desktop and now when I quickly type in the application overview/search thing the letters end up in the wrong order. |
| 21:17.59 | *** join/#debian intcat (~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat) |
| 21:19.30 | jhutchins_wk | daggs1: What do you mean by dummy network interface? |
| 21:19.39 | *** join/#debian Shirase (~C@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:22.13 | *** join/#debian G0haN (~SkullRide@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:22.56 | *** join/#debian NuttyNutterson (~NuttyNutt@pool-100-10-61-31.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:24.27 | daggs1 | jhutchins_wk, got it to work, thanks anyway |
| 21:24.45 | *** join/#debian BiMale54Poz (~justme@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1552] by debhelper |
| 21:27.16 | *** join/#debian fn7py (~fn7py@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:27.50 | *** join/#debian bestwin|2 (~bestwin@178.46.162.61) |
| 21:27.52 | *** join/#debian donald1 (~donald@vbo91-6-78-245-241-67.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:27.56 | *** join/#debian sheepsleeek (~sheep@185.130.70.162) |
| 21:28.10 | *** join/#debian fatty (~stibium@big320.static.otenet.gr) |
| 21:28.39 | *** join/#debian aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:29.15 | *** join/#debian Whitby2 (~kvirc@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:29.16 | *** join/#debian amcorrei1 (~amcorreia@186.213.171.128) |
| 21:29.43 | annadane | wonders how much i could bribe the debian devs to not include gnome in buster |
| 21:29.57 | *** join/#debian OS-35900 (~OS-35900@ip-94-112-133-199.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 21:30.08 | *** join/#debian OS-35900 (~OS-35900@unaffiliated/os-35900) |
| 21:31.02 | *** join/#debian bestwin|2 (~bestwin@178.46.162.61) |
| 21:31.17 | hemebond | My bad :-) |
| 21:31.38 | hemebond | Will see if anyone over there has an idea of the cause. |
| 21:31.39 | *** part/#debian hemebond (~james@2406:e007:7324:1:dd6d:6a67:a9b5:e077) |
| 21:31.46 | *** join/#debian {HD} (nichts@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/hd/x-06969157) |
| 21:32.13 | *** join/#debian dbfl (~androirc@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:33.52 | *** join/#debian digitalnomad91 (~digitalno@2600:380:6b29:4278:38b7:e148:a693:3985) |
| 21:34.57 | *** join/#debian Nate18 (~nate@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:36.53 | *** join/#debian WebDawg (~webdawg@officialg0d.com) |
| 21:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1542] by debhelper |
| 21:37.18 | *** join/#debian careta (~careta@129.82.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 21:37.43 | *** join/#debian Eduard_Munteanu_ (~Eduard_Mu@188.26.139.214) |
| 21:37.51 | *** join/#debian bolt (~r00t@unaffiliated/bolt) |
| 21:38.04 | *** join/#debian Arnaud1965 (~Arnaud196@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:40.05 | *** join/#debian infinmed (infinmed@logiplex.net) |
| 21:41.04 | *** join/#debian rax-Y (~rax-@bnc.localh0st.co.uk) |
| 21:41.20 | *** join/#debian Ruebezahl (~Alf@p200300C04BD4D600626720FFFE413270.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:42.24 | *** join/#debian vvgina (~Gina@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:42.43 | *** join/#debian LioneLL1 (~Pidgin@men13-2-82-224-174-71.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:43.39 | *** join/#debian NeoBlaster (~N3oBl@st3r.net) |
| 21:43.53 | *** join/#debian mel00010 (~mel00010@128-223-223-132-wireless.uoregon.edu) |
| 21:44.45 | *** join/#debian Ku_ (~Nick@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:45.12 | *** join/#debian descuidado (beaf7825@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.175.120.37) |
| 21:45.49 | *** join/#debian dgp (~daniel@p732129-ipngn200605sizuokaden.shizuoka.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 21:46.13 | descuidado | when installing debian, at the moment to optionally pick a Desktop enviroment, is there any document that specifically says what "Debian desktop enviroment" itself installs, also what if i select that and GNOME, or Xfce? |
| 21:46.27 | *** join/#debian Shahnaz_ (~Shahnaz@2a00:11c0:1337:b0f4:a574:1b0a:d27:158f) |
| 21:48.47 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87) |
| 21:49.14 | *** join/#debian ducdeblangis (~Mibbit@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:50.03 | *** join/#debian _nutmeg (~nutmeg@187.113.109.38) |
| 21:52.45 | *** join/#debian HurricaneHarry (~quassel@84.85.122.182) |
| 21:54.27 | *** join/#debian loptr (~loptr@188.166.170.78) |
| 21:55.10 | *** join/#debian guideline (guideline@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/guideline) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#debian edwarm (~ed@102.156.193.245) |
| 21:58.30 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 21:59.00 | *** join/#debian NuttyNutterson (~NuttyNutt@pool-100-10-61-31.prvdri.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:59.16 | *** join/#debian lisa61095 (~lisa61095@testbed-users.calyx.net) |
| 21:59.51 | lisa61095 | Is there any reason I shouldn't just upgrade directly from stable to unstable instead of doing stable->testing->unstable? |
| 21:59.56 | *** join/#debian m_ (~m@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:00.44 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@unaffiliated/mtn) |
| 22:02.04 | Tom01 | no |
| 22:02.38 | *** join/#debian msb (~msb@unaffiliated/detergnet) |
| 22:02.48 | *** join/#debian gnostiko1 (~gnostikoi@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:02.51 | towo` | lisa61095, if you want a broken system, you can do it that way |
| 22:03.20 | hypn0 | there are sid distros too :-/ |
| 22:03.28 | *** join/#debian jimmy_ (~jimmy@2605:a000:4941:9a00:8616:f9ff:fe19:9f18) |
| 22:04.28 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tvm@router-sever1-nat-m.pilsfree.net) |
| 22:05.06 | *** join/#debian areyouloco (~areyouloc@5.172.235.82) |
| 22:05.24 | *** join/#debian quaddle (~407606bc@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:05.43 | jimmy_ | Hey guys, I'm having issues with sound, specifically, my card is listed under /proc/asound/cards but under aplay -l I get jack squat. I've been troubleshooting this like religiously and have gotten nowhere it seems. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 22:05.55 | *** join/#debian KG7QEO (~evilroots@70.33.29.182) |
| 22:06.13 | *** join/#debian _ADN_ (~username@2a02:c7d:5e18:200:b9a7:c8d9:5cf6:87db) |
| 22:06.46 | lisa61095 | towo, Which way? If you mean the former, what types of problems does doing testing first prevent? |
| 22:06.55 | jimmy_ | Also, alsamixer seems to see my card, but pulseaudio and aplay dont seem to recognize anything. |
| 22:07.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1549] by debhelper |
| 22:09.11 | *** join/#debian ThroneDweler (~ThroneDwe@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:09.49 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkv@LFbn-MON-1-397-201.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:09.54 | spacemn | lisa61095: in the past I jumped from stable to unstable directly |
| 22:09.59 | *** join/#debian dominix (cbb9aecf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.185.174.207) |
| 22:10.06 | towo` | lisa61095, stable => testing is supposed to be an upgrade path, stable => unstable is not |
| 22:10.09 | dominix | hi ther |
| 22:10.20 | dominix | do someone kno |
| 22:10.41 | towo` | lisa61095, and btw, if you have to ask such questions, unstable is not the right system for you definitifly |
| 22:10.54 | *** join/#debian paulgrmn__ (~paulgrmn@184.75.212.67) |
| 22:10.58 | dominix | do someone knows how to purge with apt like aptitude purge ~c |
| 22:11.51 | towo` | apt purge $(dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{ print $2 }') |
| 22:12.15 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@199.201.65.133) |
| 22:12.20 | dominix | thanks towo |
| 22:13.43 | *** join/#debian bobbyboby (~bobbyboby@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:15.07 | *** join/#debian nicedreams (~nicedream@138.68.41.211) |
| 22:17.18 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~jareth_@2001:980:e1c0:1:219:66ff:fea0:a502) |
| 22:18.47 | *** join/#debian sam16 (~sam16@mtrlpq3120w-lp130-01-74-14-212-25.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 22:19.15 | jimmy_ | alright, well if nobody knows how to troubleshoot my sound issue, is there maybe a better channel I could try? |
| 22:20.07 | *** part/#debian spacemn (~dnc@151.51.136.5) |
| 22:20.18 | Tom-_ | hang around here, maybe someone will know later |
| 22:20.25 | Tom-_ | i wish i could help but i have no idea |
| 22:20.35 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 22:20.53 | *** join/#debian frju365[IRC] (~frju365@2001:41d0:fe22:2700:18e0:f66a:b117:8d95) |
| 22:20.53 | *** join/#debian frju365[IRC] (~frju365@yunohost/member/frju365) |
| 22:20.54 | *** join/#debian areyouloco (~areyouloc@ip-31-0-125-204.multi.internet.cyfrowypolsat.pl) |
| 22:21.14 | *** join/#debian jory (~Jory@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:21.35 | mtn | jimmy_: have you used pavucontrol? |
| 22:22.04 | jimmy_ | Hmmm, don't think so? |
| 22:22.06 | DonArmstrong | jimmy_: yeah, I'd suggest pavucontrol just in case the wrong/unexpected output for your card is selected |
| 22:22.27 | *** join/#debian bapophis (~belethapo@167.98.27.229) |
| 22:22.40 | mtn | jimmy_: the go to tool for pulse audio. check out all the profiles in the config tab |
| 22:23.21 | jimmy_ | output devices only has dummy output, config says no cards |
| 22:23.31 | *** join/#debian disi (~quassel@c-76-104-203-143.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:23.42 | DonArmstrong | jimmy_: hrm; and pulseaudio is running, right? |
| 22:23.57 | *** join/#debian ohaimark3 (~helloworl@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:24.16 | *** join/#debian ram (~ram@114.125.47.110) |
| 22:24.41 | jimmy_ | pulseaudio --check returns nothing, not even a blank line |
| 22:24.45 | *** join/#debian bapophis (~belethapo@167.98.27.229) |
| 22:24.57 | jimmy_ | sudo'd that and had same result |
| 22:25.27 | DonArmstrong | jimmy_: pulseaudio --check && echo 1; |
| 22:25.36 | mtn | jimmy_: did you use a debian live disk to install? does sound work on a live disk? |
| 22:26.05 | *** join/#debian mylinux_ (~mylinux@cpe-173-90-52-255.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 22:26.12 | jimmy_ | first command returned 1 |
| 22:26.23 | *** join/#debian Ceege (~Ceege@mtrlpq3120w-lp130-01-74-14-212-25.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 22:26.24 | jimmy_ | live disk I seem to remember having no sound as well |
| 22:26.28 | DonArmstrong | jimmy_: cool, then it's running |
| 22:26.44 | mtn | jimmy_: what live disk was that? |
| 22:26.50 | jimmy_ | BunsenLabs |
| 22:27.17 | jimmy_ | I've had the same result (no sound) on ParrotOS, Kali Linux, and plain Debian |
| 22:27.34 | jimmy_ | CentOS I seem to remember working fine and Linux Mint had sound too |
| 22:27.54 | jimmy_ | This is an older machine btw (Realtek ALC880) |
| 22:28.13 | jimmy_ | I tried using their HD Audio Codec but their C code is awful |
| 22:28.39 | jimmy_ | compiler errors left and right, would probably take years to fix by hand and I didn't find anything on github |
| 22:29.34 | *** join/#debian damsikavu (~damsikavu@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:29.42 | *** join/#debian giorgosp (uid27492@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aihopdvitgbdzmvc) |
| 22:30.04 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: hrm; and your user is in the audio group, and you have a /dev/audio*; device, right? |
| 22:30.36 | *** join/#debian hkumar006c (~hkumar006@103.5.134.167) |
| 22:31.42 | jimmy_ | yes, I am in an audio group, no audio listings under /dev/ though |
| 22:32.31 | *** join/#debian format_c (~koeppea@unaffiliated/format-c/x-8927423) |
| 22:32.52 | *** join/#debian Krennic (~Krennic@unaffiliated/krennic) |
| 22:32.59 | *** join/#debian allizom (~Thunderbi@host213-28-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:33.01 | *** join/#debian ShadowCo (~IceChat9@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:33.13 | *** join/#debian gryffus (~gryffus@unaffiliated/gryffus) |
| 22:34.30 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: ok, but there are /dev/snd/ devices, right? |
| 22:35.14 | jimmy_ | controlC0 hwC0D2 seq timer |
| 22:35.29 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: perfect; is there only one pulseaudio running? |
| 22:35.51 | jimmy_ | how would I check that? htop? |
| 22:35.58 | jimmy_ | oml |
| 22:36.05 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: ps axfu|grep pulse; will show you |
| 22:36.11 | jimmy_ | so I'm running debian 3.16.0-5-686-pae |
| 22:36.18 | dondelelcaro | oh |
| 22:36.32 | jimmy_ | uh I don't know how the hell that happened, so lemme check that out reeeeeeeal quick and I'll come back with an update |
| 22:36.43 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: heh; yeah, that might be part of it. ;-) |
| 22:37.05 | jimmy_ | I stg I JUST checked that like a month ago and I was up to date |
| 22:37.15 | jimmy_ | might've been a different distro? dunno, brb., |
| 22:38.19 | *** join/#debian kazord (~ben@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:38.25 | *** join/#debian callidvs (~Thunderbi@cpc77094-renf7-2-0-cust297.14-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 22:38.32 | dondelelcaro | ,kernel versions |
| 22:38.34 | judd | (kernel [--release <squeeze>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 22:38.37 | dondelelcaro | ,kernel |
| 22:38.38 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.15.0-rc8-686 (4.15~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); buster: 4.15.0-1-686 (4.15.4-1); stretch-backports: 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-686-pae (4.14.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.82-1+deb9u3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-686-pae (4.9.65-3+deb9u2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-5-686-pae (3.16.51-3+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: |
| 22:38.39 | judd | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-5-686-pae (3.2.96-3) |
| 22:39.26 | *** join/#debian deznuts (uid92154@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vajpbpgtybmaqkde) |
| 22:39.38 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cwgelmxkqlmgvrlp) |
| 22:39.54 | *** join/#debian Neomex (~quassel@net-37-117-31-254.cust.vodafonedsl.it) |
| 22:40.17 | annadane | dondelelcaro, while you're here, i wanted to ask you how one can be on a list to change dpkg factoids; is being an op a requirement? |
| 22:40.26 | dondelelcaro | annadane: nope; anyone can change them |
| 22:40.38 | annadane | ah, gotch |
| 22:40.39 | annadane | a |
| 22:40.48 | *** join/#debian areyouloco (~areyouloc@5.172.234.208) |
| 22:41.23 | dondelelcaro | You have to be in a channel with dpkg, but that's the only requirement |
| 22:41.40 | *** join/#debian drtybtmboi (~drtybtmbo@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:42.27 | jimmy_ | So this might be a dumb question but uh, how do I know which is best? Do you have any recommendations? |
| 22:42.47 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: which kernel? |
| 22:42.53 | *** join/#debian pyface (~pyface@about/security/contributor/pyface) |
| 22:43.37 | jimmy_ | That's my question lol. Which do I pick for my 2002 emachine with less than a gb of ram xD |
| 22:43.53 | *** join/#debian awal1 (~awal1@modemcable195.197-226-192.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 22:43.59 | dondelelcaro | jimmy_: you should be able to run the 4.9.0-6-686-pae kernel on it |
| 22:44.18 | *** join/#debian asterismo_l (~asterismo@190.64.208.2) |
| 22:44.43 | *** join/#debian in2cyb (~chatzilla@102.156.193.245) |
| 22:44.50 | *** join/#debian jarlaxl (~jarlaxl@user123.intek.cz) |
| 22:44.53 | dondelelcaro | (you won't use the pae, but IIRC, that codepath gets disabled on machines which can't use it anyway) |
| 22:46.21 | jimmy_ | okay, thanks! I'll brb |
| 22:46.34 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@LFbn-1-3359-199.w90-127.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:48.45 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 22:54.20 | *** join/#debian sdrac8 (~sdrac8@180-150-61-116.cust.aussiebb.net) |
| 22:55.07 | *** join/#debian sibyakin (~sibyakin@83.234.69.145) |
| 22:55.36 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@p50868F5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:56.38 | *** join/#debian selsper (~sels@2a0a:e340:1001:200::6:1004) |
| 22:57.01 | jimmy_ | I've got a buddy who's going to help me compile 4.9.87 |
| 22:58.33 | asterismo_l | hi |
| 22:58.36 | asterismo_l | i'm back |
| 22:58.42 | asterismo_l | vlt, frostschutz |
| 22:59.57 | walterve_ | hi guys |
| 23:00.21 | *** join/#debian Billybob (~rskjohnso@102.156.193.245) |
| 23:00.22 | *** join/#debian v01t (~v01t@i577B2523.versanet.de) |
| 23:00.46 | walterve_ | I have Debian 9.3 installed over a Macbook MacBookPro11,1 |
| 23:03.39 | walterve_ | everything is working fine |
| 23:04.11 | walterve_ | but I can't say the same for the audio |
| 23:04.16 | walterve_ | even audio via bluetooth |
| 23:06.29 | *** join/#debian clopez (~tau@neutrino.es) |
| 23:07.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1541] by debhelper |
| 23:08.42 | *** join/#debian diapercory12 (~diapercor@102.156.193.245) |
| 23:09.34 | *** join/#debian pos (~pos@gateway/tor-sasl/pos) |
| 23:11.32 | *** join/#debian bandit-kroot (~bandit@mtrlpq3120w-lp130-01-74-14-212-25.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:11.34 | asterismo_l | vlt, are you there? ping me when you are available |
| 23:11.36 | awal1 | trying to find a good usb wifi adapter with support for 5ghz freq. any suggestion? |
| 23:12.56 | awal1 | supported by debian (I mean firmware available in main, contrib or non-free) |
| 23:13.33 | *** join/#debian jarlaxl_ (~jarlaxl@102.156.193.245) |
| 23:14.03 | *** join/#debian paraxial (~paraxial@cpc111117-wiga14-2-0-cust1368.18-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:14.12 | *** join/#debian goatish (~textual@CPE64777ddc2493-CM64777ddc2490.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:14.28 | *** join/#debian geejay (~geejay@unaffiliated/geejay) |
| 23:14.59 | *** join/#debian Anaximander (~textual@102.156.193.245) |
| 23:16.18 | *** join/#debian paulgrmn__ (~paulgrmn@184.75.212.67) |
| 23:18.37 | *** join/#debian mavhq (~quassel@cpc77319-basf12-2-0-cust433.12-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:19.48 | *** join/#debian Phah11 (~Phah1@p54BA7691.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:21.13 | *** join/#debian upbeta (~upbeta@130.105.43.154) |
| 23:21.36 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (asm@AntiSpamMeta/.) |
| 23:21.41 | *** join/#debian upbeta_ (~upbeta@vpn1-sg.onerentlabs.net) |
| 23:22.24 | *** join/#debian tsuggs (~tsuggs@adsl-074-171-024-060.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:24.19 | *** join/#debian areyouloco (~areyouloc@user-94-254-243-153.play-internet.pl) |
| 23:24.20 | *** join/#debian harish__ (~hkumar006@2a07:241:1:4000::d25) |
| 23:25.03 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-169-84-246.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 23:26.39 | *** join/#debian alhsk (sid245104@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihjcfgzqdeoipwfn) |
| 23:28.11 | *** join/#debian necrose99 (~necrose99@unaffiliated/necrose99) |
| 23:32.41 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@98.210.76.223) |
| 23:32.43 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@cpc122086-bmly10-2-0-cust783.2-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:32.44 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@unaffiliated/tyranny12) |
| 23:32.56 | *** join/#debian crimson_king (NEOalquimi@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/neoalquimista) |
| 23:33.39 | *** join/#debian phinxy (~ted@unaffiliated/phinxy) |
| 23:34.45 | *** join/#debian donald (~donald@vbo91-6-78-245-241-67.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:38.45 | *** join/#debian nobodi (~nobodi@modemcable142.127-177-173.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 23:40.22 | *** join/#debian britaliope (~bmateu-qu@163.172.47.190) |
| 23:42.01 | *** join/#debian Typhon (~Typhon@ipservice-092-211-208-097.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 23:42.03 | *** join/#debian careta (~careta@129.82.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 23:45.43 | *** join/#debian mframe (~mframe@unaffiliated/mframe) |
| 23:45.48 | *** join/#debian meatpath (~meatpath@2600:1700:4370:8ef0:8c38:7694:6ce0:9afd) |
| 23:47.42 | mframe | is there a favorite video card for debian users that supports 4k but isnt for "gaming" ? |
| 23:50.26 | *** join/#debian raguay (~gucwa@102.156.193.245) |
| 23:51.10 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 23:51.12 | *** join/#debian guideline (guideline@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/guideline) |
| 23:53.32 | *** join/#debian adfdd (~alala3333@102.156.193.245) |
| 23:54.25 | *** join/#debian mixoholic (uid254732@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-depkkyhaqsigeyfu) |
| 23:54.43 | tobiasBora | Here is the issue: I want to run nix on a non-root user to install stuff in my lab. This package manager needs only one thing: an accessible /nix folder. The thing is that I'm not root on the device, so I use proot to "fake" this /nix folder. But proot has an overhead in term of efficiency, so I was thinking to switch to user mount namespace... But I can't find any documentation on it. So first, if namespace |
| 23:54.44 | tobiasBora | is available in the kernel, is it indeed a good solution? If yes, how can I check that the mount namespace is enabled? And lastly, how can I use it to mount, say /home/me/mynix into /nix and fake it in a bash run that will install nix and setup the good paths? |
| 23:57.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1534] by debhelper |
| 23:59.15 | *** join/#debian erdave (~erdave@186-94-133-90.genericrev.cantv.net) |
