| 00:00.03 | mateothegreat | yep, ILO will set you up .. (I have 2 proliants here next to me) |
| 00:00.08 | SpeedOfThings | this sounds really hard. ;-; |
| 00:00.16 | mateothegreat | and that damn crappy java application |
| 00:00.26 | rpifan | but what if u wanna use wifi |
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| 00:00.38 | rpifan | POW? |
| 00:00.57 | mateothegreat | then you probably need to rethink your implementation :) |
| 00:01.22 | mateothegreat | it's a controller onboard that is accessible over IP |
| 00:01.29 | abrotman | There's an SSH interface to iLO |
| 00:01.35 | abrotman | you don't need the java thing |
| 00:01.47 | mateothegreat | true .. if you're not in recovery mode |
| 00:01.52 | rpifan | i was working with a rack server that i built once |
| 00:01.52 | rpifan | one of them umm |
| 00:01.56 | rpifan | microsomething |
| 00:02.21 | mateothegreat | SpeedOfThings why not encrypt userland instead? |
| 00:02.31 | SpeedOfThings | Bit too late for that tbh |
| 00:02.35 | mateothegreat | roger that |
| 00:02.51 | mateothegreat | ILO console -> boot prompt .. should be good |
| 00:03.04 | mateothegreat | you could use a hardware based key :o |
| 00:03.12 | rpifan | im suer there is a way to have a wifiboard |
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| 00:03.38 | Sir_Designer | waifuboard |
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| 00:04.05 | mateothegreat | duct tape a pi on the side w/wifi :D |
| 00:04.24 | mateothegreat | prolly way cheaper than another controller card .. proliant hardware is spendy |
| 00:05.12 | rpifan | i think we should start to implemnet osmething like that |
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| 00:28.58 | algun|home | bites: running it at login would be fine. Obviously it's not run |
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| 00:35.06 | bites | algun|home: didn't say it is. put it in your ~/.bashrc |
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| 00:38.49 | algun|home | bites: quite frankly i'm not sure what you said |
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| 00:39.25 | fearnothing | what's the right method for allowing a user to restart a specific service without requiring auth? |
| 00:39.43 | fearnothing | don't anyone say polkit |
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| 00:50.31 | mnuhmnuh_ | fearnothing: sudo config can allow users fine grained control. |
| 00:50.36 | bites | algun|home: for example, is you log in through ssh bash usually gets invoked as login shell. in that case ~/.profile gets sourced. if you run bash in gnome-terminal for example it is an interactive shell that is not a login shell. in that case ~/.profile does not get sourced. it depends on what you are doing. |
| 00:51.18 | lmw | Hi. May I ask what desktop environment and/or window manager you guys use? I can't decide which one to use :( |
| 00:52.12 | debron | gn all |
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| 00:53.37 | mnuhmnuh_ | lmw: what do you want your wm to be like? ease of use, simple config, specific apps/controls, what? i like mate, used to use fluxbox, but mates nice and easy. |
| 00:54.08 | fearnothing | mnuhmnuh_ tried that and it didn't work |
| 00:54.28 | mnuhmnuh_ | "didn't work". |
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| 00:56.16 | lmw | mnuhmnuh_: Just want a simple GUI, like a taskbar, a start menu that I can configure (but it's not a must, I can also live with the defaults), a file explorer, etc. I don't need/want special 3D graphics effects or so. Just a simple thing. |
| 00:56.41 | fearnothing | https://bpaste.net/show/739341f58e45 |
| 00:56.49 | lmw | I have found Mate and Xfce, but still not sure. |
| 00:56.53 | fearnothing | there's my visudo additions mnuhmnuh_ |
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| 00:57.51 | fearnothing | my user is in the correct group, but gets stopped by systemd/polkit when I run /bin/systemctl stop pcapring |
| 00:59.27 | abrotman | lmw: try them all, use the one you like |
| 01:00.02 | lmw | Would you suggest me a virtual machine instead? I don't like to test stuff on my real system. |
| 01:00.07 | abrotman | lmw: LXDE? IceWM? |
| 01:00.23 | coruja | lxqt |
| 01:00.59 | lmw | LXQT looks like KDE Plasma? |
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| 01:02.04 | coruja | like kde it's based on qt ui toolkit but it's much more lightweight and less complex |
| 01:02.41 | lmw | Hm, I don't like Qt. |
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| 01:03.09 | abrotman | Try LXDE |
| 01:03.10 | coruja | lxde is it's gtk counterpart |
| 01:03.13 | picknick | lmw: I've been using xfce for about 8 years now, it has more features and customization than mate and lxde at the same resource footprint, haven't looked at lxqt yet though |
| 01:03.19 | coruja | s/it's/its/ |
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| 01:04.08 | lmw | Okay, I think I will try LXDE and Xfce here. Thanks. |
| 01:04.09 | fearnothing | anyone any thoughts on why those /etc/sudoers lines aren't working |
| 01:04.27 | abrotman | fearnothing: did you use visudo to edit? does the syntax validate? |
| 01:04.36 | fearnothing | yep and yep |
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| 01:06.16 | abrotman | then what doesn't work? |
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| 01:07.26 | abrotman | fearnothing: did you logout/login after adding yourself to that group ? |
| 01:07.34 | fearnothing | yes, I've been in the group for ages |
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| 01:07.47 | fearnothing | just added the group to that file. But I logged in/out anyway just in case |
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| 01:08.18 | fearnothing | what doesn't work is that when I run it, I get slapped in the face by polkit |
| 01:08.59 | coruja | paste or it didn't happen ;) |
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| 01:11.04 | lisa61095 | It's been about 10 years since I've bought a laptop, and I'm finally looking to replace this old dinosaur ... But a lot of the ones I'm considering buying have touch screens. Is that going to cause problems with debian? Do most touchscreens have FOSS drivers available? |
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| 01:11.34 | fearnothing | https://bpaste.net/show/09cf446f5a6e <---- coruja |
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| 01:11.36 | lmw | I have installed the latest microcode update (0x84) and still see "bugs : cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2" from /proc/cpuinfo . Why is that? |
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| 01:17.03 | fearnothing | guess there's no answer to the creeping morass that is systemd =/ |
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| 01:27.17 | notadrop | Hi, I've set lightDM to be my default DM and I'm having issues... |
| 01:27.37 | notadrop | When I enter the correct user & pass, I see 'Logging in...' yet nothing happens |
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| 02:07.20 | mnuhmnuh_ | try "/join ..." |
| 02:07.48 | drakonis | its /join #debian-offotpic |
| 02:07.53 | mnuhmnuh_ | try "/join #debian-offtopic" |
| 02:08.08 | mnuhmnuh_ | close. |
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| 02:15.41 | awal1 | not sure how I can get my usb wifi adapter to work. I added 'rt2800usb' driver to /etc/modules and made it loadable at during boot (as suggested here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Tenda_W311M#rt2800usb_driver) . Looks like the adapter is detected and all fine but I still don't know how to use it :( |
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| 02:16.09 | awal1 | a few output makeing me think my wifi adapter is detected https://paste.debian.net/1015296 |
| 02:16.14 | awal1 | Any help :) |
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| 02:17.44 | awal1 | is 'wlxc83a35cc0377' in iwconfig output my wifi adapter? |
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| 02:19.52 | awal1 | acording to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZqZcAD-q_Q my adapter works fine under ubuntu |
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| 02:22.31 | awal1 | I installed 'firmware-misc-nonfree' before loading 'rt2800usb' driver. may not be a good idea (a possible conflict somewhere?) |
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| 02:32.29 | expert975 | I'm thinking on using this email client written in python, but in the program my email an password are plaintext variables, and I don't feel good about that. How could I make the program use an encrypted form of my password? |
| 02:33.05 | annadane | *which* email client? |
| 02:33.45 | awal1 | according to https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Tenda_W322U_v1 my adapter should be supported |
| 02:35.40 | expert975 | annadane: This one: https://github.com/streetturtle/awesome-wm-widgets/tree/master/email-widget |
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| 02:36.21 | expert975 | annadane: same for this one: https://lumail.org/ |
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| 02:36.53 | annadane | i mean, #debian exists for support as is relates to *debian* things... |
| 02:36.57 | annadane | s/is/it |
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| 02:37.58 | expert975 | annadane: Well, I'm in debian |
| 02:38.21 | annadane | right but you're asking questions about things not packaged for debian |
| 02:38.26 | annadane | so people are unlikely to know the answer |
| 02:38.44 | annadane | did you try contacting the people who made the things you linked? |
| 02:39.21 | expert975 | annadane: I didn't |
| 02:39.34 | mnuhmnuh_ | expert975: learn python. use crypto. have fun. submit fixes to maintainer. |
| 02:40.17 | expert975 | mnuhmnuh_: my plan is to do this on Lua |
| 02:40.22 | marcidy | expert975: debian is not a specific program, you need to find resources for your specific program. |
| 02:40.54 | expert975 | annadane: will I have better luck asking on the archlinux channel? :p |
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| 02:47.50 | mnuhmnuh_ | ##linux ? |
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| 02:48.13 | mnuhmnuh_ | #python ? |
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| 03:02.52 | epsilon | I need pidof functionality, but also where I can specify the owner of the process. Any suggestion? |
| 03:03.22 | epsilon | so if 5 people are running the same binary, I need pid of that binary from one specifi user |
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| 03:05.30 | marcidy | epsilon: ps au |grep <prog> | grep <username> will work for that, never used pidof though. |
| 03:05.55 | marcidy | well, you'd need to harden that around progrm names of usernames or whatever |
| 03:06.50 | epsilon | I hoped there is an elegant way avoiding using grep :-/ |
| 03:07.53 | mnuhmnuh_ | pgrep -V - pgrep from procps-ng 3.3.12 |
| 03:09.22 | mnuhmnuh_ | pgrep -u ... |
| 03:09.31 | epsilon | ah! |
| 03:09.38 | epsilon | nice, thx :) |
| 03:09.47 | mnuhmnuh_ | de nada. |
| 03:12.25 | algun|home | bites: ok thx |
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| 03:14.19 | Guest85586 | isnt there like, a standard development tools package you can install on debian |
| 03:14.28 | Guest85586 | i dont recall the name |
| 03:14.48 | coruja | build-essential? |
| 03:14.53 | Guest85586 | coruja: THANK YOU |
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| 04:34.32 | Cthulchu | hi fellas, I have an issue. I do `sudo apt-get install libpq-dev` and get: libpq-dev : Depends: libssl-dev but it is not going to be installed |
| 04:35.11 | Cthulchu | here's output of my apt-cache policy https://pastebin.com/G1c0Q60N |
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| 04:58.59 | Cthulchu | apt-get sucks |
| 04:59.07 | Cthulchu | since now, only aptitude |
| 04:59.15 | Cthulchu | bloody apt-get ate two hours of my time |
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| 05:01.31 | alkisg | Yeah aptitude is a lot more verbose on dependency issues... |
| 05:03.31 | somiaj | ChunkzZ: aptitude and apt (apt-get and apt) have different logic, though it seems by your output the issue was due to how backports is pinned, so you are in some situation where you might need to be more specific what versions to installed. Since you were using jessie-backports, you may also have to use jessie-backports (add a -t jessie-backports) to install the packages you were trying to install |
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| 05:08.51 | awal1 | Tenda W322U usb wifi adapter problem solved. all what I needed is install 'firmware-misc-nonfree' and restart network-manager. now both wifi usb adapter and internal wifi card shows up in nm-applet. I can connect both simultaneously or separately :) |
| 05:09.30 | awal1 | I shouldn't had to visit the stupid ubuntu help wiki |
| 05:10.18 | awal1 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Tenda_W311M#rt2800usb_driver |
| 05:10.23 | awal1 | it just confused me |
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| 05:11.14 | awal1 | definitely, today I realized that based on debian are really not debian |
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| 08:30.32 | wm4 | is using Debian testing a security risk? |
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| 08:32.40 | wm4 | asking because debian testing still has libvorbis1.3.5-4.1, but look: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/libv/libvorbis/libvorbis_1.3.5-4.2_changelog |
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| 08:35.52 | wm4 | why is testing left exploitable? |
| 08:36.33 | hypn0 | maybe cause it isn't stable? |
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| 08:37.20 | wm4 | stable is outdated, testing lacks critical security update, unstable is broken - what am I supposed to use |
| 08:37.31 | wm4 | I always had this problem in my past 15 years of using debian |
| 08:38.20 | hypn0 | then you should know not to use testing? |
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| 08:40.33 | hypn0 | its not outdated on stable, software needs newer libraries too |
| 08:43.10 | hypn0 | https://appimage.org/ there are ways to get newer software :-) |
| 08:46.07 | wm4 | are you seriously linking a thing that was created _because_ of distro shortcomings |
| 08:46.39 | hypn0 | yep, I tried new inkscape :-) |
| 08:46.50 | hypn0 | on 8 |
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| 08:48.44 | fearnothing | is something in /etc/sudoers supposed to bypass polkit filtering? |
| 08:48.48 | hypn0 | well it like statically linked, so you don't need newer libraries |
| 08:48.53 | fearnothing | because it's not working if so |
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| 08:55.38 | cesurasean | hi |
| 08:55.45 | cesurasean | what is the default stretch password for mysql-server? |
| 08:55.49 | cesurasean | i can't seem to be able to use it |
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| 08:58.39 | localhacker | Hi, i am new. I want to contribute, can somebody please help me to get started? |
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| 09:01.30 | localhacker | Please respond |
| 09:02.31 | bazhang | localhacker, hi |
| 09:03.23 | localhacker | Hello |
| 09:03.29 | bazhang | !contribute |
| 09:03.37 | bazhang | augh not that |
| 09:03.53 | bazhang | let me get the weblink |
| 09:03.58 | bazhang | just a moment |
| 09:05.14 | bazhang | https://www.debian.org/intro/help localhacker |
| 09:05.23 | localhacker | PS , consider me a beginner programmer who knows only c/c++ and python |
| 09:06.09 | bazhang | there's a spot for all levels as far as contribution goes |
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| 09:07.27 | localhacker | Thanks bazhang, but i actually wanted to participate in Gsoc 2018, and i decided to choose debian org. |
| 09:07.41 | localhacker | But when i looked at project ideas |
| 09:08.08 | localhacker | It doesn't seem that a beginner like me can contribute |
| 09:08.44 | localhacker | Can you suggest a simple project? |
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| 09:09.08 | bazhang | the link and the wiki are great places to check for that |
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| 09:10.22 | localhacker | One more help please. |
| 09:11.34 | localhacker | Do i actually need to know how debian internals work? |
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| 09:12.15 | localhacker | I mean i am quite familiar with linux, especially debian |
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| 09:12.37 | localhacker | And have all knowledge about debian |
| 09:12.50 | localhacker | Can i still contribute? |
| 09:12.55 | bazhang | sure |
| 09:13.28 | localhacker | * and have not all knowledge about debian |
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| 09:15.24 | localhacker | Sorry, i have mistyped before.. |
| 09:15.54 | [E]sc | i previously had a raid set up with two 3TB hard drives. I took out one of them from the NAS system and formatted it to use BTRFS and backed up a bunch of files. Afterwards I stuck it back into the NAS system, without turning it on for safe keeping. When I came back to upload more files into it, the BTRFS is gone, along with my files and somehow is set back to a RAID. Is this possible? i used GPARTED to format. How can i fix this an retr |
| 09:15.55 | [E]sc | ieve my files. |
| 09:17.45 | localhacker | Bazbang please respond. |
| 09:18.02 | bazhang | localhacker, to what |
| 09:18.18 | bazhang | you can surely contribute in some fashion |
| 09:18.26 | localhacker | (localhacker) * and have not all knowledge about debian |
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| 09:18.42 | bazhang | nor does it require that |
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| 09:20.21 | localhacker | Exactly.. what i am asking 'does it require that'? |
| 09:20.49 | bazhang | that you know all the ins and outs of debian? |
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| 09:21.01 | bazhang | no it does not require that |
| 09:23.07 | localhacker | I doesn't know ins and outs of debian. |
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| 09:23.32 | localhacker | I can still contribute): |
| 09:23.38 | bs0d | Hi all. Installing a fresh debian to a virtual machine I cannot install packages, I am getting lots of errors |
| 09:23.38 | localhacker | Right? |
| 09:24.10 | bazhang | localhacker, yes, and the link I gave you gives many examples of that |
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| 09:24.45 | localhacker | Thank you bazhhang |
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| 09:25.21 | bazhang | localhacker, you can try and tab complete nicknames, such as type three or so letters, then hit tab |
| 09:25.51 | bs0d | Pls take a look at sources.list - am I missing something here? https://pastebin.com/AfrZFL1Y |
| 09:27.09 | localhacker | Ok bazhang, i will try. BTW, I am using irc for first time. |
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| 09:28.07 | bazhang | great work localhacker |
| 09:28.17 | bazhang | tab complete success! |
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| 09:31.44 | localhacker | Bazhang, since i am using phone now, so i can't hit tab. |
| 09:32.20 | localhacker | Sorry i disconnected. |
| 09:32.50 | localhacker | Please give those links again. |
| 09:33.13 | bazhang | https://www.debian.org/intro/help |
| 09:33.43 | localhacker | Also pastebin.. |
| 09:37.25 | localhacker | Bazhang, i mean, link that you gave about something.. pastebin? |
| 09:37.50 | bazhang | not that I recall |
| 09:38.42 | localhacker | So what was that? |
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| 09:39.43 | bazhang | someone else asking for details too large to paste in the channel |
| 09:40.04 | bazhang | thus they go to a website, paste it there, and give us the url |
| 09:40.54 | localhacker | Exactly.. give that url. |
| 09:41.04 | bazhang | there was none |
| 09:41.10 | bazhang | not for what you asked |
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| 09:41.25 | fr33domlover | Hello |
| 09:42.02 | fr33domlover | I have a hard disk problem and failing to make a backup, perhaps someone will have a little hint for me? :) |
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| 09:42.16 | fr33domlover | I tried web search, not sure what to do for debian |
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| 09:42.41 | fr33domlover | (Found hints that seem to be for redhat / systemd) |
| 09:42.44 | localhacker | Ok bazhang |
| 09:43.29 | fr33domlover | When I boot, it says "task jbd2:sda2 blocked for more than 120 seconds" |
| 09:43.58 | fr33domlover | And my hard disk is dying, having bad blocks very often last few days so I want to make a backup now |
| 09:44.32 | fr33domlover | In particular I want to get a DB dump and for that I need to boot and run PostgreSQL and then pg_dump against it |
| 09:44.46 | fr33domlover | But I can't get past that 120 seconds error |
| 09:45.19 | fr33domlover | (/dev/sda2 *does* have an issue, I just want, if possible, to boot at least once just to make a DB dump) |
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| 10:10.08 | techie28 | I have recently installed the XFCE on my Debian 9.4 and removed KDE which I had earlier |
| 10:10.30 | techie28 | Im unable to start the WIFI ever since |
| 10:10.53 | techie28 | is there something needed to be done in interfaces? |
| 10:11.16 | Sir_Designer | ifconfig up en0 |
| 10:11.50 | babilen | techie28: I'd check which packages you removed and ensure that you have network-manager and network-manager-gnome installed |
| 10:12.13 | NetTerminalGene | i think removing kde removed network manager |
| 10:12.15 | techie28 | Sir_Designer you mean wlan0? |
| 10:12.16 | babilen | You probably removed the KDE equivalents and are now missing the ability to configure your wireless |
| 10:12.57 | Sir_Designer | stick a cable in that baby so you have something |
| 10:13.11 | babilen | techie28, Sir_Designer: ifconfig has been deprecated (use iproute2) and probably isn't the issue here |
| 10:13.17 | techie28 | sticking a cable also doesn't help |
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| 10:15.34 | techie28 | Internet is not working even after plugging the lan cable or from the tethering a phone |
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| 10:16.37 | babilen | techie28: So, which packages did you remove? Was network-manager* among them? |
| 10:16.49 | techie28 | https://ibb.co/c3pO2x |
| 10:17.08 | techie28 | I purged KDE-all |
| 10:17.39 | babilen | Check "apt-cache policy network-manager network-manager-gnome" |
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| 10:19.43 | techie28 | babilen: It shows installed for both |
| 10:20.17 | techie28 | I am able to see menu called Network Tools |
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| 10:20.40 | Sir_Designer | i don't care if you are to use mandarin or swahili; check the status of the default network interfaces |
| 10:20.58 | babilen | so, run nm-applet and see what the current status is |
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| 10:22.58 | babilen | /var/log/apt/history* is definitely worth a look to check what you have removed |
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| 10:23.33 | techie28 | nm-applet shows me many lines of GTK WARNING |
| 10:23.46 | babilen | I mean there are different aspects to this problem: 1. Configure your system in such a way that you can manage your network from XFCE normally 2. Getting you online now (wifi/ethernet) 3. Figuring out what happened |
| 10:25.19 | Sir_Designer | babilen why don't you tell him the command line incantation to get the eth cable to be of service to him, for starters. surely he did not strip his /usr/sbin ffs |
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| 10:29.13 | techie28 | https://ibb.co/d0CRNx |
| 10:30.08 | Sir_Designer | you have no interfaces listed at all, save for local loopback |
| 10:31.17 | techie28 | wlan0 shows in the dropdown but doesnt work still on choosing |
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| 10:33.11 | techie28 | my interfaces file is https://ibb.co/jP1BNx |
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| 10:34.28 | babilen | techie28: Plug in your cable and run "ifup eth0" |
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| 10:34.46 | babilen | bbl |
| 10:35.40 | babilen | Oh, and that "allow-hotplug .." line is incorrectly indented |
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| 10:39.54 | fearnothing | hi folks |
| 10:40.16 | fearnothing | how can one allow a user to stop/start a service without requiring a password? |
| 10:40.38 | fearnothing | https://serverfault.com/questions/772778/allowing-a-non-root-user-to-restart-a-service <-- this advice is not working for me, I get blocked by polkit |
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| 10:41.37 | menace | then you have to expand the polkit stuff :) |
| 10:42.19 | fearnothing | for the love of god do not make me get in to how much I hate systemd |
| 10:42.44 | babilen | fearnothing: That should have worked .. Did you relogin (or done anything else) since you added the user in question to the group? Could you create a suitable pastebin on http://paste.debian.net with the configuration, commands and error messages? |
| 10:42.56 | babilen | ... |
| 10:42.59 | babilen | nvm |
| 10:43.03 | fearnothing | https://bpaste.net/show/09cf446f5a6e |
| 10:43.10 | fearnothing | there's the error |
| 10:43.15 | fearnothing | yes I have logged back in |
| 10:43.22 | fearnothing | one sec, will show the config in /etc/sudoers |
| 10:43.29 | babilen | I don't see you using sudo at all |
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| 10:43.56 | babilen | (that's sort of necessary to, well, use sudo) |
| 10:44.10 | fearnothing | https://bpaste.net/show/739341f58e45 |
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| 10:45.38 | fearnothing | hm. That didn't get picked up on when I pasted this last night. Pretty obvious when you put it that way :D |
| 10:45.38 | BluesKaj | Howdy folks |
| 10:45.43 | fearnothing | aaaaand what do you know, it works. |
| 10:45.44 | babilen | ;0 |
| 10:46.16 | fearnothing | I had mentally associated sudo with 'get root', as opposed to 'run a command that is in /etc/sudoers' |
| 10:47.15 | hexnewbie | Doesn't systemd have a non-sudo ways? I did configure sudo to start/stop my VPN(s), but I feel weird (and somewhat against the systemd way) to have to use auxilarity tools like sudo, in a totally separate config file. |
| 10:47.36 | fearnothing | hexnewbie - there's polkit |
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| 10:48.10 | fearnothing | but in stretch, it's still on version 0.105 which is even more horrendously crap than the way which you can find advice for if you google |
| 10:48.14 | hexnewbie | The only thing I know about polkit is that I want to smash it with a hammer every time, because it's the fourth thing that asks me for mine or root's password on login. |
| 10:48.27 | fearnothing | all of the advice for polkit you will see relates to versions 0.106 and later |
| 10:49.07 | fearnothing | I am completely with you there my friend |
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| 10:50.03 | fearnothing | systemd is like the zerg creep from Starcraft |
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| 10:58.12 | libelah | Hi all together. I made a fresh install of Debian 8 on a vServer and upgraded to Debian 9. I installed mysql-server but I can't make it start: mariadb.service: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/bin/install: Value too large for defined data type. |
| 10:59.34 | libelah | I could not find very much about that issue anywhere in the web. Anyone who can give me some hints? |
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| 11:02.10 | hexnewbie | libelah: Ouch. Can't help you with this particular error, I can just tell you that last time I faced a similar one I could only resolve it by stracing PID 1. |
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| 11:02.58 | hexnewbie | libelah: There was a workaround that could possibly work in your case as well (disabling the namespace for the service), but I would seriously recommend AGAINST it. |
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| 11:03.56 | hexnewbie | s/namespace/sandbox/ |
| 11:04.58 | jelly | libelah, is this a container-like VPS where you don't have control of the kernel? |
| 11:04.58 | jelly | libelah, what does uname -a say? |
| 11:05.03 | libelah | Thank you for your help. As I am not that experienced I'll definitely go for your recommendation ;) |
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| 11:06.01 | libelah | > jelly Linux hxxxxxxx.stratoserver.net 3.16.0-042stab127.2 #1 SMP Thu Jan 4 16:41:44 MSK 2018 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:06.21 | hexnewbie | libelah: Er, if jelly's conjecture is correct, you *will* have to disable the sandbox, though :) |
| 11:06.41 | jelly | yeah, that's an OpenVZ / Virtuozzo kernel |
| 11:06.42 | hexnewbie | And it seems correct, by skimming Wikipedia's article on VServer |
| 11:06.47 | libelah | I have a second vServer on the same hoster where it all works correct... :/ |
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| 11:07.05 | jelly | "stab" in the abi name is a clue |
| 11:07.36 | fearnothing | hm, I tried adding those aliases to a file in /etc/sudoers.d/ and they no longer work |
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| 11:09.17 | jelly | libelah, going back to sysvinit instead of systemd might do the trick as well (with a similar, or worse, loss of service isolation as the namespace wrokaround) |
| 11:09.29 | fearnothing | ah ok, it didn't like me adding them there before removing them from the main sudoers file |
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| 11:09.40 | hexnewbie | Damn, systemctl cat opens less now? I'm gonna shoot it with an RPG. From space. |
| 11:09.43 | fearnothing | I need them out of the main sudoers file first, then put them in that directory |
| 11:09.46 | fearnothing | then it works |
| 11:09.58 | jelly | !stretch sysvinit |
| 11:09.58 | dpkg | To replace systemd with sysvinit in stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init", and reboot again. |
| 11:11.06 | jelly | libelah, I have no idea whether that would work for your environment. Might leave the system unbootable. |
| 11:11.13 | hexnewbie | jelly: Wouldn't removing/overriding ProtectSystem= and ProtectHome= from the service do the trick as well? |
| 11:11.17 | libelah | ok, thanks to all for your help. I still wonder why it is working with systemd on my second vServer |
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| 11:11.50 | jelly | libelah, does the other system work on the same container platform (what does uname -a say there)? |
| 11:12.03 | jelly | hexnewbie, I have no idea |
| 11:12.20 | libelah | Linux hyyyyyyy.stratoserver.net 3.16.0-042stab127.2 #1 SMP Thu Jan 4 16:41:44 MSK 2018 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:12.26 | jelly | so yes |
| 11:12.36 | jelly | that would require me to read systemd docs, hexnewbie |
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| 11:15.44 | hexnewbie | libelah: OK, can you try this: 1) Create a directory and file in it: /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.service.d/customexec.conf 2) Place two lines in it ‘ProtectHome=false’ and ‘ProtectSystem=false’ (without the single quotes) 3) Run systemctl daemon-reload 4) Try to start mariadb again |
| 11:15.44 | libelah | I guess I'll try another clean install first then |
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| 11:18.08 | libelah | hexnewbie: I did, but mariadb still fails with the same message |
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| 11:20.26 | hexnewbie | libelah: OK, remove that file so it doesn't interfere more if it doesn't help. I guess your problem is more different from mine than I thought (not caused by the chroot part of it anyway). Sorry for the shot in the dark, I guess :) |
| 11:20.58 | libelah | Nevermind, thank for trying to help me! :) |
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| 11:25.42 | fearnothing | jelly whilst going back to sysvinit is appealing, libvirt sets itself up through systemd/polkit, and it would mean a mountain of work to unpick that |
| 11:26.25 | fearnothing | just don't have the time for that |
| 11:30.42 | jelly | it's on every maintainer to choose whether they're keeping and maintaining a working setup for each init |
| 11:31.41 | jelly | the service you use might work or might not on the other init, and the services libelah uses are different |
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| 11:37.34 | fearnothing | oh my bad jelly, we were talking about a similar topic and I thought you were saying that to me |
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| 11:44.35 | phinxy | Whats the manual entry for nfs? |
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| 11:45.09 | eryst | hi |
| 11:45.27 | eryst | do you know how to enter in sudo mode from a script? |
| 11:45.38 | eryst | I mean to send the password from that script |
| 11:45.42 | eryst | is that possible? |
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| 11:46.34 | fearnothing | eryst - I don't know, but I do know the normal way of doing it is to check if the script is being run as root at the beginning |
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| 11:47.05 | fearnothing | can you do that instead? |
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| 11:47.17 | eryst | I want to go in sudo mode automatically |
| 11:47.33 | eryst | I can do that also... |
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| 11:48.35 | RoyK | eryst: do you mean "login as root"? |
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| 11:49.01 | eryst | yes |
| 11:49.05 | somiaj | eryst: what is your actual goal? Why do you want to evalate to root prvilages inside a script? |
| 11:49.19 | RoyK | eryst: you can configure sudo to allow either without password for all (not a good idea) or for certain commands |
| 11:49.20 | eryst | I'm just playing |
| 11:49.34 | eryst | to see if it can be done |
| 11:49.40 | RoyK | playing is important - only way to learn ;) |
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| 11:49.52 | RoyK | eryst: just run sudo -i |
| 11:49.57 | RoyK | and you're root |
| 11:50.50 | eryst | eryst is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported |
| 11:51.00 | somiaj | things can be done, but doens't mean it is the proper way. Usuaully you would run the script as root, or as a normal user. And if something needs root privlages you can think about various ways of privlage escilation (your sudo attempt with NOPASS configured is one way) |
| 11:51.06 | RoyK | eryst: is this your computer? ;) |
| 11:51.19 | abrotman | I have that problem all the time ... |
| 11:51.19 | eryst | yes :)) |
| 11:51.42 | somiaj | others are say you can have the script setuid, you can also use things like polickit as another way to allow certain commands to elivate to root privalges. |
| 11:52.09 | RoyK | eryst: obviously, the user must be given sudo rights to use sudo |
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| 11:53.14 | eryst | in that case, I also have to write a password in the prompt |
| 11:53.23 | eryst | I want this done automatically |
| 11:53.34 | somiaj | not if you setup that user or command to use sudo NOPASS as sugggested. |
| 11:53.38 | abrotman | did you read the sudoers man page to allow sudo without a password? |
| 11:53.48 | fearnothing | eryst: you can also add specific commands that can be run as sudo with no password, though that method will get complicated quickly if there are a lot of commands you want to run |
| 11:54.14 | fearnothing | I have just learned how to do it with two or three commands and that was enough for me :) |
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| 11:56.30 | jelly | somiaj, you can't have a #! script setuid on Linux |
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| 11:58.02 | somiaj | jelly: ahh, thanks (And makes sense). |
| 11:58.36 | jelly | and arguably the "proper" way _is_ to run with minimal privileges, and only switch to root for those things that _have_ to be run as root |
| 11:59.15 | jelly | it made sense 20 years ago, no other unix does this |
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| 12:00.09 | jelly | and today Linus does not like patches that stop classes of attacks at the expense of breaking user's workflow |
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| 12:32.17 | NCS_One | hi |
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| 12:33.27 | NCS_One | I have Debian 8 installed but would like to see the version of a package on Debian 9, where can I find a list of Debian 9 packages? |
| 12:34.44 | Javabean | packages.debian.org scroll down and you can search for the package or browse |
| 12:35.10 | NCS_One | Javabean: thanks |
| 12:35.15 | themill | NCS_One: there are tens of thousands of packages. A list of them doesn't tend to be useful. |
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| 12:36.41 | NCS_One | ok, I want to upgrade my Debian, is this a good tutorial to follow? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-8-jessie-to-debian-9-stretch |
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| 12:37.34 | tomreyn | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 12:38.19 | tomreyn | (this is assuming you're on amd64, change the url to match your architecture) |
| 12:38.30 | jelly | NCS_One, or ask the bot: /msg judd version packagename |
| 12:38.44 | jelly | dpkg, jessie->stretch |
| 12:38.44 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
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| 14:32.55 | jimm | .remove |
| 14:33.17 | jimm | argh, something's wrong again :P I was trying out my spot remoer |
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| 14:44.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 14:44.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a channel for raspbian? |
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| 14:44.56 | RoyK | Eryn_1983_FL: #raspberrypi |
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| 14:45.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 14:52.06 | alkisg | Eryn_1983_FL: /j #raspbian ;) |
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| 15:32.09 | libelah | just to have it complete here: I finally made mariadb running somehow :) I did a fresh reinstall of Debian 8 and upgraded to 9. I got the same error from above again when starting mariadb. I purged every package from mysql/mariadb and removed any folders/configurations. After that reinstalling somehow worked well ... |
| 15:32.30 | libelah | THanks again Jelly and hexnewbie for helping! |
| 15:33.01 | jelly | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 15:33.18 | libelah | :D |
| 15:33.39 | Ascavasaion | I installed an additional NIC into my computer to go with the onboard NIC. I have tried in Wicd to get them both to connect with no luck. It did work in an Ubuntu installation I had prior. I then installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome and the applet shows both NIC's but says that they are both unmanaged, even if I add a connection via the applet. Any ideas please? |
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| 15:37.14 | jhutchins | Ascavasaion: multiple wireless cards is pretty unusual. What's your reason? |
| 15:37.42 | Ascavasaion | jhutchins: they are wired cards |
| 15:38.08 | jhutchins | Ascavasaion: Well, definitely not wicd then. |
| 15:38.40 | jhutchins | Ascavasaion: Without any real information from you, my guesses would be that either they need firmware or you have something in /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 15:38.46 | Ascavasaion | jhutchins: I thought as much. But how do I get network-manager to access the two cards? |
| 15:39.05 | jhutchins | Ascavasaion: Was the onboard card working before? |
| 15:39.27 | Ascavasaion | jhutchins: Yes! I added stuff into /etc/network/interfaces. Should that file be blank rather? |
| 15:39.39 | Ascavasaion | jhutchins: It worked with a fresh Ubuntu install. |
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| 15:39.55 | jhutchins | Ascavasaion: Network manager won't manage anything that's in the interfaces file |
| 15:40.03 | jhutchins | !interfaces |
| 15:40.04 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 15:40.07 | Ascavasaion | jhutchins: Oooooh, I never knew that. |
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| 15:43.36 | SkyWay | which is the default root password in a regular install? |
| 15:43.53 | SkyWay | sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0 |
| 15:44.05 | jhutchins | SkyWay: Whatever was set when it was installed. |
| 15:44.16 | SkyWay | didn't set it |
| 15:44.44 | jhutchins | SkyWay: If sudo is set up the root password might not be set. |
| 15:45.00 | jhutchins | SkyWay: Which release? How did you instll it. |
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| 15:45.34 | SkyWay | i think it's a regular release.. |
| 15:45.44 | SkyWay | i mean, is for arm. rock64 SOC. |
| 15:45.55 | SkyWay | it i maintained by ayufan |
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| 16:01.07 | dumbl3d0re | SkyWay: Did you choose a root password during the install? If you didn't set one `sudo` was probably installed and you've to use that. |
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| 16:03.23 | lmw | Someone running Debian and Windows 10 as Dual boot? I've installed Debian on my physical computer on a second HDD, because I work more with Debian. I'd like to ask what's more user friend, especially for maintaining both systems. I only need Windows 10 for 1 or 2 applications now, so .. is a Dual boot good or can/should I put Windows 10 into a virtual machine? What would you do/suggest me? (BTW: Licensing of Windows 10 in a VM is n |
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| 16:03.59 | petn-randall | lmw: Your message is cut off after "(BTW: Licensing of Windows 10 in a VM is n". |
| 16:04.21 | lmw | "(BTW: Licensing of Windows 10 in a VM is not a problem here.)" |
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| 16:06.11 | petn-randall | lmw: If you need 3d acceleration (directx 11/12), use dualboot. Everything else works fine in a VM. |
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| 16:06.25 | Ascavasaion | jhutchins: Okay, I set up the /etc/network/interfaces file and it now connects the second NIC to the static IP I gave it, but the first NIC is still being set up to the settings in Wicd. Any ideas please? |
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| 16:07.34 | lmw | petn-randall: I don't have need for 3D acceleration. I think I will use a VM then :) |
| 16:08.44 | lmw | When I want to remove Windows 10 from my other HDD, is it safe to just format the whole drive and remove the EFI boot entry? |
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| 16:32.43 | awal1 | -virtualbox-guest-additions-iso needed for usb2/3 support? |
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| 16:37.26 | NCS_One | hi |
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| 16:38.25 | NCS_One | when upgrading is ok to do it on xterm in normal boot or is there a better way? |
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| 16:40.13 | jhutchins | NCS_One: It's pretty much the same as a normal package upgrade, you can do it in xterm. |
| 16:40.16 | awal1 | NCS_One, for major upgrades, when important system components are upgraded, I personally think that the use of vt (ttyX) is more secure |
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| 16:41.18 | awal1 | more secure I mean less risky/eventual breakage |
| 16:42.22 | NCS_One | awal1: how do you start it? |
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| 16:44.11 | awal1 | NCS_One, not sure if I understood you. your first question was: is it better to upgrade my system via xterm (tty/console/vt) or being in X (x window system/xorg)? |
| 16:44.53 | NCS_One | awal1: I', on X |
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| 16:45.44 | jhutchins | jessie -> stretch |
| 16:45.52 | jhutchins | !jessie -> stretch |
| 16:46.03 | awal1 | you can proceed, off-course, that depends on what you are upgrading |
| 16:46.03 | jhutchins | !jessie->stretch |
| 16:46.13 | jhutchins | Three strikes, sorry. |
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| 16:46.27 | awal1 | if going from jessie to stretch, better do it via tty, not X |
| 16:46.33 | awal1 | NCS_One, |
| 16:46.35 | n4dir | it is recommended to do it from tty. I never did it, and it never failed on me. But then: doesn't look like much trouble to do it from tty. better safe than sorry |
| 16:46.46 | NCS_One | dpkg: jessie -> stretch |
| 16:46.47 | dpkg | NCS_One: I give up, what is it? |
| 16:46.54 | NCS_One | dpkg: jessie>stretch |
| 16:46.54 | dpkg | NCS_One: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 16:47.58 | jhutchins | !jessie->stretch |
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| 16:48.22 | jhutchins | Copied from the <stretch> factoid. dpkg is cranky today. |
| 16:48.47 | jhutchins | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
| 16:48.57 | annadane | you're hired. |
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| 16:50.04 | NCS_One | awal1, n4dir whats the recommended way to boot to tty? |
| 16:50.32 | jhutchins | NCS_One: Ctrl-Alt-F1 will switch to one, you can kill gdm or you can boot to multiuser.target |
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| 16:51.11 | n4dir | ^^ just ctrl-alt-f1 is what i always did/do, but i don't use a display-manager. |
| 16:52.04 | n4dir | if a display-manager was running, i simply stopped it, but that was back with sysv. No clue how it works with systemd. |
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| 16:52.11 | NCS_One | soo I can still leave this X session open? |
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| 16:52.25 | awal1 | NCS_One, just ctrl-alt-f1 when you reach your DM. |
| 16:52.36 | awal1 | logout form X, a better idea |
| 16:52.36 | NCS_One | oh, ok |
| 16:53.12 | NCS_One | thanks, going to try it |
| 16:53.17 | NCS_One | bye |
| 16:53.18 | jhutchins | The upgrade scripts will handle shutting down X and restarting if necessary, but they'll probably just leave it running in RAM. |
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| 16:57.18 | no_gravity | Is there anything in the Debian repos that helps beautifying javascript? |
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| 17:00.10 | MaxLanar | Hi, the video output on my debian box is disabled when I unplug the (hdmi) cable. It don't work again when I plug it back. Which command I can use through ssh to enable the video output again ? |
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| 17:02.10 | MaxLanar | When I try 'xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1280x1024' |
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| 17:02.27 | jhutchins | MaxLanar: You might have to re-start X. |
| 17:02.33 | MaxLanar | I got this Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCan't open display localhost:10.0 |
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| 17:03.08 | bitess | no_gravity: the jsbeautifier package. echo "if ('this_is'==/an_example/){of_beautifier();}else{var a=b?(c%d):e[f];}" | js-beautify - |
| 17:04.19 | MaxLanar | jhutchins: I'd like to avoid that, as I often plug and unplug the cable |
| 17:04.41 | no_gravity | bitess: Do you mean js_beautify from package libjavascript-beautifier-perl? |
| 17:05.18 | bitess | ,i jsbeautifier |
| 17:05.19 | judd | Package jsbeautifier (misc, optional) in stretch/amd64: JavaScript unobfuscator and beautifier. Version: 1.6.4-6; Size: 2.4k; Installed: 11k; Homepage: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/jsbeautifier/ |
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| 17:05.41 | bitess | this one is using a python package. |
| 17:06.21 | bitess | yours is a perl module, you would still have to write the perl script. |
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| 17:06.51 | no_gravity | I installed libjavascript-beautifier-perl and now js_beautify works. |
| 17:07.13 | bitess | oh, it has a binary too. good. |
| 17:07.34 | no_gravity | It seems not to work in vim via :%!js_beautify though. |
| 17:07.46 | no_gravity | I wonder why. |
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| 17:08.24 | MaxLanar | jhutchins: just managed to get the output back with ctrl+alt+f1 (then ctrl+alt+f7) ! |
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| 17:09.16 | awal1 | is the closed source 'virtualbox extension pack' is necessary for usb2/3 support? |
| 17:10.15 | no_gravity | Ha! I got it workin! |
| 17:10.16 | no_gravity | :%!js_beautify - |
| 17:10.19 | no_gravity | ^ That tells js_beautify to read from stdin. |
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| 17:14.17 | NCS_One | when upgrading should I log has other user or should I use sudo? like in "sudo apt-get update" |
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| 17:15.16 | no_gravity | NCS_One: However you like. |
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| 17:16.36 | eTarap | Bonjour. |
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| 17:20.11 | jhutchins | MaxLanar: Cool, I can see why that would work. |
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| 17:20.59 | jhutchins | NCS_One: sudo will work, I use su - or log in to a console as root. |
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| 17:21.35 | jhutchins | Fortunately, full upgrades only happen every couple of years, so we don't get overly familiar with the process. |
| 17:22.00 | jhutchins | (I also only manage a few Debian machines these days.) |
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| 17:57.25 | drdo | What's the default desktop that debian comes with called? I thought that option on the installer was just to install X and friends but turns out I was wrong :P |
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| 17:58.25 | annadane | GNOME |
| 17:58.47 | drdo | but... there was an option for gnome, and I didn't select it |
| 17:59.06 | annadane | right, but if you click desktop environment and nothing else, gnome is what you get |
| 17:59.28 | drdo | Oh well, gonna be fun uninstalling things |
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| 18:01.40 | NCS_One | ok, the upgrade has gone wrong :( |
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| 18:02.23 | jhutchins | NCS_One: Did you read the release notes? |
| 18:02.47 | NCS_One | on step 4.6.1 of https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 18:02.59 | NCS_One | jhutchins: yes |
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| 18:03.23 | jhutchins | NCS_One: WHAT went wrong? |
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| 18:04.15 | NCS_One | after that I did a reboot and it seams to loop I think because of graphic card |
| 18:04.56 | jhutchins | NCS_One: What do you mean it seems to loop? |
| 18:06.29 | NCS_One | it shows nvidia logo, black screen, nvidia logo, black screen, ... |
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| 18:09.00 | jhutchins | NCS_One: You're not exactly giving us much to go on. Sounds like you might have had the proprietary nvidia drivers installed, you'll need to re-install them from the console for the new kernel. |
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| 18:10.04 | NCS_One | how can I get into tty now? |
| 18:11.46 | jhutchins | NCS_One: What have you tried? |
| 18:12.22 | jhutchins | NCS_One: You have not told us where in the boot process it's "looping", so we can only guess what's happening. |
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| 18:13.06 | jhutchins | NCS_One: You haven't said if you installed the proprietary drivers, or if you did how you installed them. |
| 18:13.36 | NCS_One | I did not installed them |
| 18:14.37 | NCS_One | jhutchins: after grub it shows "Loading, please wait..." and then starts the loop |
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| 18:16.51 | jhutchins | Ok, you're probably not getting far enough to load a console then, and it's not the nvidia drivers. |
| 18:17.21 | jhutchins | NCS_One: When does the Nvidia logo show? |
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| 18:17.45 | NCS_One | after "Loading, please wait..." |
| 18:18.17 | jhutchins | NCS_One: Then what? It goes back to the grub menu? Does the BIOS menu show up? |
| 18:18.35 | jhutchins | NCS_One: I would say you're going to have to boot to the rescue mode from your installer media. |
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| 18:20.29 | NCS_One | after "Loading, please wait..." it shows the logo, then black screen, then logo, then black screen, ... |
| 18:20.43 | NCS_One | jhutchins: I can go to recovery mode |
| 18:20.59 | NCS_One | from grub |
| 18:23.35 | NCS_One | can I continue the upgrade on recovery mode and then install nvidia drivers? |
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| 18:26.24 | jhutchins | NCS_One: It's not getting as far as the video drivers. |
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| 18:26.51 | jhutchins | NCS_One: Does it actually boot to recovery mode? |
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| 18:27.12 | jhutchins | NCS_One: I don't think there's anything to "continue", you just need to figure out what's failing. |
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| 18:27.51 | jhutchins | NCS_One: If you can get into it, look at the logs. You could also try editing the boot command and remove "quiet" so you can see what's happening. |
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| 18:32.29 | HeinzBoettjer | is there a place to talk about e2image or post a problem? My search always goes to something with redhat. |
| 18:33.36 | RoyK | HeinzBoettjer: just ask, but personally, I don't have a clue about e2image ;) |
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| 18:33.55 | RoyK | !ask |
| 18:33.55 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:38.11 | HeinzBoettjer | my e2image runs now since about over 10 hours and tell he has left about 33 Minutes and has completed 32 %. I suggest the timer switch to 23:59:59 after zero. My Idea is to show the time instead of 24hour cycle in 99hour cycle |
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| 18:41.24 | RoyK | HeinzBoettjer: how is the i/o load etc? how big is the filesystem? |
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| 18:45.02 | HeinzBoettjer | glances says about i/o about 500k (usb) the filesystem is to grow from 130 to 150 GB using 20 GB in front of the original |
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| 18:49.16 | drdo | Is debian 9 on systemd or not? |
| 18:49.52 | RoyK | drdo: it's using systemd by default, but you can change that |
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| 19:11.01 | HeinzBoettjer | RoyK: :-) 23:59:59 and counting. Hope it will finish the next day. ... |
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| 19:13.53 | RoyK | HeinzBoettjer: check timestamp on the output file - it should be updated if this thing actually is running |
| 19:14.57 | HeinzBoettjer | ??? it is a partition in resize ??? |
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| 19:16.52 | HeinzBoettjer | I just found the https://github.com/tytso/e2fsprogs maybe there is a place for request a better timer. thanks |
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| 19:42.00 | jhutchins | This is why we recommend backup, repartition, restore. |
| 19:43.10 | RoyK | jhutchins: shh! it's a secret! |
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| 20:50.24 | awal1 | hm, for usb 2.0 support under vbox one needs virtualbox-ext-pack |
| 20:50.56 | awal1 | almost everything s available under debian; just a matter of searching :P |
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| 21:19.55 | RM982 | so I have this debian testing VM, after apt dist-upgrade network stopped working, the device isnt up on start |
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| 21:20.19 | RM982 | ifup -v ens33 output says cannot find device |
| 21:25.07 | RM982 | I guess it was renamed or something? how can I see the logical name? |
| 21:25.07 | Infra_HDC | ip link |
| 21:25.07 | RM982 | cool ty |
| 21:25.07 | RM982 | wonder why it was renamed |
| 21:25.08 | RoyK | what was the new name? |
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| 21:25.08 | RM982 | enp2s1 |
| 21:25.08 | RoyK | wierd - it should be based on the BIOS name |
| 21:25.08 | RoyK | which, unless you move things around, should never change |
| 21:25.08 | RoyK | RM982: which debian version is this? |
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| 21:25.25 | RM982 | buster/sid |
| 21:25.51 | RoyK | !buster |
| 21:25.52 | dpkg | The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html |
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| 21:26.18 | at0m | dpkg: tell RM982 about testing |
| 21:26.48 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 21:26.48 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:28.08 | RM982 | anyway it is fixed |
| 21:28.10 | RM982 | ty |
| 21:28.31 | RoyK | with sid, things will break anyway, but hell, he left |
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| 21:30.07 | Infra_HDC | I was moved my LFS 8.1-systemd VM from VMWare Workstation Pro 12 to VirtualBox 5.2, and Virtual HardWare was changed too, one must to edit /etc/systemd/network/10-eth0-dhcp.network to specify new network interface name |
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| 22:37.36 | Rprp` | Hi guys, running debian and was about to test the IOPS on my disk, but the disk went read-only and I couldnt do a thing, decided to reboot but grub boots in rescue mode |
| 22:37.46 | Rprp` | used the following command: fio --filename=/dev/sda --direct=1 --rw=randrw --refill_buffers --norandommap --randrepeat=0 --ioengine=libaio --bs=8k --rwmixread=70 --iodepth=16 --numjobs=16 --runtime=60 --group_reporting --name=8k7030test |
| 22:37.55 | Rprp` | did I destroy the partition? anything I can do? |
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| 22:38.54 | awal1 | *msg dpkg v reaver |
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| 22:40.07 | annadane | awal1, you want judd for that |
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| 22:42.08 | Brigo | Rprp`, i guess you deleted the information or the entire disk. |
| 22:42.08 | awal1 | annadane, got confused :P judd vs dpkg * vs / :D |
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| 22:42.08 | Brigo | Rprp`, do you have backups? |
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| 22:42.09 | aokfire | Hi, I want to mount a drive I already have mounted as rw as a folder or link inside a folder on another drive that an isolated program as access too |
| 22:42.09 | aokfire | Basically want to mount /mnt/A as /mnt/B/A ro |
| 22:42.09 | Rprp` | Brigo: yes, I do - but only the mysql files (not the .SQL), would that bu suffecient to restore? |
| 22:42.09 | aokfire | https://lwn.net/Articles/281157/ reading this it seems possible? But apparently not if the original fs was mounted rw, which it is. |
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| 22:42.11 | Rprp` | Brigo: it it because of the -rw=randrw comm? |
| 22:42.20 | Brigo | Rprp`, i think so. |
| 22:42.37 | Brigo | Rprp`, if the backups will be suficient is up to you. |
| 22:43.12 | Brigo | aokfire, maybe with --bind |
| 22:43.21 | aokfire | I'm reading and that seems to be the way |
| 22:43.33 | aokfire | mount --bind /mnt/A /mnt/B/A |
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| 22:47.34 | Brigo | aokfire, you have to modify the mount permission still. |
| 22:47.50 | aokfire | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.55 | aokfire | from that article |
| 22:48.23 | aokfire | and then the question is, how can I unbind? |
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| 22:49.31 | Brigo | aokfire, just unmounting |
| 22:49.42 | aokfire | that makes sense, thanks :) |
| 22:49.47 | aokfire | let me test it |
| 22:50.07 | aokfire | but based on what I said/read, that should work yes? RO specific dir of A readable on B ? |
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| 22:52.48 | Brigo | aokfire, i think so, don't remember actually. I used it in lxc container some time ago and y worked just fine. |
| 22:53.14 | aokfire | sudo mount -o remount,ro /mnt/B/A |
| 22:53.17 | aokfire | fuse: missing mountpoint parameter |
| 22:53.30 | aokfire | am I missing bind between remount and ro? |
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| 22:55.07 | aokfire | yes, that was it |
| 22:55.13 | aokfire | sudo mount -o remount,bind,ro /mnt/B/A |
| 22:55.47 | aokfire | and it seems I can rw on original fs, and ro on bind. awesome! :) |
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| 22:56.13 | aokfire | Thanks Brigo |
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| 23:00.12 | Brigo | akaWolf, np |
| 23:00.16 | jack__ | is anyone around? |
| 23:00.22 | annadane | jack__, lots of people |
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| 23:01.24 | jack__ | Does anyone know a reliable method of testing the maximum ammount of network traffic a server can handle |
| 23:01.32 | jack__ | I want to test how much my server can handle |
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| 23:03.52 | jack__ | Does anyone know a reliable method of testing the maximum ammount of network traffic a server can handle, I want to test how much my server can handle |
| 23:04.08 | jack__ | basically a denial of service attack |
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| 23:06.09 | jack__ | is anyone in here |
| 23:06.29 | annadane | jack__, you'll have to wait longer than 2 minutes to get an answer |
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| 23:06.59 | jack__ | Can you answer my question |
| 23:07.11 | annadane | no, because i don't know the answer |
| 23:07.15 | jack__ | okay |
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| 23:07.36 | jack__ | There is just a bunch of joining and leaving messages and no one will see my message if I don't post it |
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| 23:07.55 | annadane | not everyone has joins/parts enabled |
| 23:08.03 | jack__ | how do you disable it |
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| 23:08.10 | annadane | what irc client do you have? |
| 23:08.15 | jack__ | hexchat |
| 23:08.31 | annadane | settings > preferences > general > hide join and part messages |
| 23:08.56 | jack__ | oh i thought it was a / command |
| 23:08.59 | jack__ | well thanks |
| 23:09.10 | jack__ | Why do you use IRC? |
| 23:09.47 | annadane | ...um, to talk to people? |
| 23:10.06 | jack__ | Yeah but who to |
| 23:10.18 | annadane | that's kind of irrelevant for a support channel |
| 23:10.32 | jack__ | I didn't realise this was a support channel |
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| 23:11.02 | hypn0 | currently a newbie? I think :-) |
| 23:11.15 | jack__ | I've never used IRC |
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| 23:11.28 | jack__ | I always thought it was a thing of the past |
| 23:11.38 | jack__ | I thought no one used it anymore |
| 23:11.50 | annadane | well, this channel has 1500 people in it, if you can see the sidebar |
| 23:11.57 | annadane | lots of people use irc.............. |
| 23:12.00 | jack__ | Are they online though |
| 23:12.04 | annadane | sigh. |
| 23:12.05 | annadane | leaves |
| 23:12.41 | jack__ | I don't know how IRC works, I thought you would have gotten that message when I said I've never used IRC |
| 23:12.58 | jack__ | I just assumed that was a list of all existing members |
| 23:13.31 | jack__ | how tf are there 1500 online people in here but no one fucking talks |
| 23:13.35 | annadane | yeah, fair enough. yeah, they're online |
| 23:13.54 | annadane | a lot of people lurk, and general best practice is not to answer a question if you don't know the answer |
| 23:14.00 | jack__ | Are they just talking to eachother but still logged in on this server |
| 23:14.12 | hypn0 | https://opensource.com/article/16/6/irc-quickstart-guide look what I found |
| 23:14.17 | jack__ | I asked if anyone was here and only you responded |
| 23:14.29 | annadane | it doesn't make me the only person here |
| 23:14.49 | jack__ | Yeah but you'd think more than 1/1500 people would say something |
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| 23:15.18 | annadane | so anyway, wait a little while and have some patience when asking a question, though now that it's scrolled off screen you may want to ask it again, but unless your server is to do with debian i'd ask in another channel |
| 23:15.27 | annadane | maybe ##networking |
| 23:15.33 | jack__ | okay thanks |
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| 23:15.46 | jack__ | I just thought I could ask on the default server |
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| 23:33.46 | lmw | Hi. I'm running Debian 9 with MATE now. I'm still setting up everything I need and/or would need for my daily use, it's more a office computer. Except GIMP, what painting program can you recommend me? |
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| 23:34.11 | tw3k | GIMP |
| 23:34.11 | annadane | hmm, krita? |
| 23:34.23 | lmw | tw3k: Read my question again please. |
| 23:34.43 | lmw | annadane: Krita? Never heard, I will take a look at it. |
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| 23:35.18 | bitess | inkscape for vector graphics. |
| 23:35.22 | tw3k | lmw: GIMP |
| 23:35.36 | tw3k | lmw: i likes the inkscape too |
| 23:35.49 | tw3k | haven't heard of krita |
| 23:36.00 | lmw | tw3k: Any why GIMP? I find it complicated to use and overbloated. |
| 23:36.21 | tw3k | lmw: awesome photoshop 4 clone |
| 23:36.21 | hypn0 | https://alternativeto.net/software/gimp/?platform=linux ? |
| 23:36.40 | lmw | tw3k: I wouldn't call GIMP a Photoshop "clone" ... |
| 23:36.57 | tw3k | installing Krita |
| 23:37.12 | lmw | hypn0: Thanks, will take a look at it. |
| 23:37.34 | tw3k | lmw: yeah but if ya grew up with photoshop you'd know what you're doing with the GIMP |
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| 23:38.18 | tw3k | lmw: try blender if you think GIMP is tricky, lol :) |
| 23:38.29 | lmw | tw3k: I know Blender. |
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| 23:39.09 | lmw | But besides that, Photoshop is more overbloated :P |
| 23:39.38 | tw3k | been a long time since i've used it but it was awesome with a wacom |
| 23:40.04 | lmw | What do you use it now? |
| 23:40.10 | lmw | *What do you use now? |
| 23:40.35 | lmw | Let me guess .. GIMP? |
| 23:40.47 | tw3k | yeah, Krita look cool tho |
| 23:41.08 | lmw | I will give Krita a try. |
| 23:41.11 | tw3k | i haven't done much graphics work lately |
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