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00:31.55enseneoHi everyone.  I'm having an installation problem: using the netinst CD, when I select "Graphical Install" or regular "Install", my new system reads from the CD a while and then just gives up (blank screen).
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00:32.58dvsenseneo, is this from a USB?
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00:33.59Tom_-enseneo, are you sure the full ISO image of the netinst CD was written to CD?
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00:34.08Tom_-have you checked the download signature?
00:34.11Tom_-dpkg, signatures
00:34.12dpkgwell, signatures is #del#
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00:34.19Tom_-dpkg, sig
00:34.19dpkgrumour has it, sig is a Special Interest Group, or a meeting of like-minded individuals, with the intention of drinking lots. 1337sp33k for signature
00:34.20enseneoDoesn't matter whether I use USB or a CD
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00:34.50enseneoYes, I'm using the full netinst ISO.  (verified checksums)
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00:35.34mcm_i'm getting this error: 'Package python-gpgme is not available, but is referred to by another package'. How can see which package is referencing it?
00:35.35Tom_-maybe it's a video incompatibility error, you can try fb=false
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00:36.18enseneoI have not checked signatures, but I've downloaded and checked the md5sums and burned the images on two different machines; my image is not corrupt;  using both USB and CD, after selecting either "Graphical install" or regular "Install", I get a blank screen.
00:36.19annadanemcm_, aptitude
00:36.28annadane(i think)
00:36.56dvsenseneo, UEFI install?
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00:37.07mcm_i would have guessed there is an apt-cache or so command....
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00:37.29enseneodvs, yes, UEFI is there
00:38.00dvsenseneo, If you selected a UEFI install then Secure Boot needs to be turned off.
00:38.12r3mcm_: you can try 'apt-cache search python-gpgme' ?
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00:38.36r3and be sure to 'apt-get update'
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00:39.15enseneodvs, not sure that I ever "selected" UEFI install: it's simply called "Debian GNU/Linux Uefi Installer";  Ok, I will look into turning off Secure Boot; I guess I just need to go into the UEFI shell and type something (at least I hope so)
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00:39.46dvsenseneo, disable it in the "BIOS"
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00:42.21mcm_r3, thanks. exactly, `apt-cache` returns zero result. however when i do `apt install python-gpgme` then it returns the error 'Package python-gpgme is not available, but is referred to by another package'. btw this is on ubuntu.
00:42.43mcm_r3, therefore i wanted to find out which package refers to this one.
00:42.45enseneodvs, looks like I can disable UEFI; I'll try "Legacy" mode
00:42.57dvsok
00:43.53mcm_r3, also `apt-cache depends <pkg>` and `apt-cache rdepends <pkg>` doesn't deliver any valuable information.
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00:44.04enseneodvs, it turns out secure boot was *already* disabled
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00:44.35awal1dpkg: preventa
00:44.36dpkgawal1: I give up, what is it?
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00:45.01annadanemcm_, ubuntu is not debian
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00:45.04awal1dpkg: minix3
00:45.04dpkgawal1: I wish you would RTFM.
00:45.08annadane!tell mcm_ about based on debian
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00:47.49mcm_annadane, i'm very well aware. i just wanted help on apt-* commands not a ubuntu specific question.
00:49.36enseneodvs, changing from uefi to "legacy" made the situation worse: I cannot boot into the installer at all, now (i.e., not even the first screen);  I'm going back to UEFI + secure boot turned off
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00:50.08annadanemcm_, i may have misunderstood you then; my apologies
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00:58.54Scriptonauthey guys, I'm having some trouble loading fonts. I am using lemonbar, and I have Terminus and FontAwesome fonts, I also refreshed the font cache with fc-cache -fv or w/e the command is. Here is the error I get from lemonbar: http://ix.io/14iy
00:59.05Scriptonautand here are the scripts giving the errors: http://ix.io/14it
00:59.25Scriptonautthe error is from the last line of the script
00:59.41Scriptonautthis worked fine on my gentoo machine, and on my debian squeeze machine (same hdd actually)
01:00.46ScriptonautI got both terminus and fontawesome from apt by the way. Here is the output of: fc-list | grep -i "terminus\|awesome": http://ix.io/14iB
01:01.14Scriptonautso I have the fonts, but it doesn't want to load them
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01:02.55r3mcm_:  I wonder if your /etc/apt/sources.list is screwy?
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01:03.41mcm_annadane, no worries :-)
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01:05.20r3mcm_: if you can, maybe try 'aptitude search "?provides(python-gpgme)"'
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01:07.01r3mcm_: and then maybe if you find what is referencing it you can try removing that package and then do apt-get update and reinstalling it?
01:08.00mcm_r3, aptitude didn't return any results either...
01:08.13mcm_thank you for the hints...
01:08.41mcm_btw, where does apt store the package lists? it should be somewhere in /var
01:09.21r3perhaps in /var/lib/apt/lists/
01:10.06mcm_thanks, a grep in that folder revealed more info :-)
01:10.07r3or /var/cache/apt/
01:10.36r3sure thing, mcm_, hope I was able to help some, gotta run - sorry - cheers!
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01:11.19mcm_cheers
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01:20.54anonitHello can someone please help me. My Debian jessie system is currently booted up, however sometime within the last hour (I was afk) it has now mounted the rootfs as read only
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01:21.06anonitDmesg crashes the terminal. ls -l shows /tmp is 777
01:21.46anonitActually thought I was in #linux going to post there as there are probably more people, sorry about that
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01:31.48srruby[Offtopic] Does anyone like the ChromeBooks for use as software development and everyday use?
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01:32.19annadaneperhaps a topic better suited to #debian-offtopic
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01:34.53Thedarkb-X40Right, I can't get wifi working.
01:34.57Thedarkb-X40I have the driver.
01:35.23dvsThedarkb-X40, But do you have the firmware?
01:35.24Thedarkb-X40I'd like to get it working ASAP
01:35.27Thedarkb-X40dvs, Yes.
01:35.39Thedarkb-X40Up to date
01:36.07dvsWhat wireless card is it?
01:36.37Thedarkb-X4002:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
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01:36.44Thedarkb-X40iwconfig sees it.
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01:37.05dvsIs firmware-iwlwifi loaded?
01:37.36Thedarkb-X40how do I check?
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01:37.43Thedarkb-X40sysctl something
01:37.50dvsdpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi
01:37.50dpkgii  firmware-iwlwifi                 1.3-5           dvs's private warez collection
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01:38.12dvsdoh!
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01:38.25Thedarkb-X40Installing the package now.
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01:39.36awal1who is called when people calls pciidin channel?
01:40.07Thedarkb-X40Restart?
01:40.12Thedarkb-X40After installing the firmware.
01:40.24awal1btw, what is the exact way? and how to do in private?
01:40.24dvsyes
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01:43.00Thedarkb-X40no luck
01:43.09Thedarkb-X40Huh
01:43.16Thedarkb-X40Oh, my X200's battery probably died.
01:43.20Thedarkb-X40Left it unattended.
01:43.25Thedarkb-X40dvs, Any other ideas?
01:43.32dvsnope
01:43.56Thedarkb-X40shit.
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01:45.02dvsOh uninstall that and install firmware-ipw2x00 instead
01:45.12Thedarkb-X40Oh yeah, I need libc6, can I safely grab that from sid
01:45.18Thedarkb-X40I already had that in the first place.
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01:46.43Thedarkb-X40dvs, Already at newest version.
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01:50.12Thedarkb-X40Anyone have any ideas at all?
01:50.22Thedarkb-X40I'm kind of desperate.
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01:54.24Thedarkb-X401: phy0: Wireless LANSoft blocked: yesHard blocked: no
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01:54.27Thedarkb-X40???????????
01:54.32Thedarkb-X40What does that mean?
01:55.51Thedarkb-X40I unblocked it with RFkill and still no luck
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01:57.02Thedarkb-X40This laptop doesn't even have a hardware switch.
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01:59.16dvsFn-F8?
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01:59.56Thedarkb-X40dvs, Did nothing
02:00.15Thedarkb-X40There's no hard blocking on this laptop
02:00.33Thedarkb-X40and soft blocking is disabled
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02:01.05Thedarkb-X40https://pastebin.com/pB1Gyhbq
02:01.14Thedarkb-X40This is the output of iwconfig
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02:01.50Thedarkb-X40Anyone know anything about this?
02:02.36Thedarkb-X40is there some daemon that should be running but isn't?
02:02.56dvsThedarkb-X40, what does "iwlist wlp2s2 scan" say?
02:03.36Thedarkb-X40found my router
02:03.57dvsSo the driver works.  It's just a matter of configuring your connection.
02:04.00Thedarkb-X40https://pastebin.com/Vd7tCg4D
02:05.13Thedarkb-X40What do you mean?
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02:07.10dvsThedarkb-X40, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse
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02:09.25Thedarkb-X40dvs, I followed the instructions.
02:09.28Thedarkb-X40Yeah, nothing.
02:09.56Thedarkb-X40I'll try the gnome network manager
02:09.57dvsWell, it's not a driver problem, it's a configuration problem
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02:12.27Thedarkb-X40Found the problem
02:12.32Thedarkb-X40Wicd is just a piece of shit.
02:12.38Thedarkb-X40That was the issue all along
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02:14.33dvsTo each their own.  I use wpa-supplicant.
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02:22.38Thedarkbdvs, I think I have it
02:22.46ThedarkbI think the issue is that wicd is a piece of shit.
02:23.14dvsSome people swear by it.
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02:24.18ThedarkbWell, GNOME network manager has it's own issues with my WiFi card
02:24.24Thedarkbbut nothing that can't be configged away.
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02:27.30ThedarkbNah, still won't work.
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02:50.57Scriptonautok, so I dug through lemonbar's sourcecode, it uses xcb_open_font_checked(connection, font_object, strlen (font_name), font_name); to fetch the fonts. It's not fetching them correctly, anyone know what type of string I should be passing to xcb_open_font_checked()? I'm passing it
02:51.08Scriptonaut"Terminus:size=14:style=Bold" **
02:51.57Scriptonautthis is where the font lives /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ter-u12b_unicode.pcf.gz: Terminus:style=Bold
02:52.01Scriptonautthat's fc-list output
02:52.16Scriptonautanything wrong with that syntax?
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02:56.49razer1I just installed debian 9 stable, xorg, and awesome window manager. I have no audio and I don't know why.
02:57.00razer1I installed alsa-utils and viewed all the levels and they look good.
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02:59.33n4dirrazer1: which software do you use which doesn't give sound ( i guess my point is: you sure it isn't muted?).
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03:31.52ian|mdebian 10 better be much better than debian 9 or im quitting linux
03:32.06n4dir!chat
03:32.07dpkgThis is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel.  Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net.
03:32.12ian|msorry
03:32.51n4dirsounds a bit rougher than it was meant. But as far i can see here are mainly users, not devs or such. So no one will be able to help you.
03:33.26n4diryou might try #linux and ask for a Linux distro which is according to your needs (or one of the BSD ones?).
03:34.53n4dirnothing wrong with quitting linux either, i guess.
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04:43.07physketsHi!
04:43.30physketsI'm planning to use Debian for the first time, and would like some advice:
04:43.58physketsThe device I'm considering buying is a mini-PC:
04:44.00physketshttps://www.crazypi.com/firewall-pc-4-lan
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04:44.57physketsI want to use it as my home-router and WiFi access-point (average 2 devices, maximum 4 connected at one time)
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04:51.07physketsand also as a server, possibly running 'matrix', some git repos, maybe 'Mastodon'....
04:51.34physketsSo my question is, does that miniPC look okay for all that on Debian?
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04:58.48alkisgphyskets: yeah it looks fine
04:59.05alkisgexcept for "WiFi is incompatible with pfSense. If you need WiFi, pls use other OS of your Choice"
04:59.12alkisgI.e. it might not have a linux wifi driver
04:59.44alkisgIn that case you could buy a wifi dongle
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05:01.35nyaomii have a vga monitor and hdmi tv connected to this machine, and when i boot while both are on everything is fine, but if the tv shuts off, upon turning it back on the monitor no longer gets any input, though the tv remains a secondary display with no gnome shell ui stuff
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05:10.09physketsalkisg: I wrote to them asking about the WiFi card, and this is what they told me:
05:10.11physketshttps://www.amazon.in/Protectli-AzureWave-AW-NU706H-mini-PCIe/dp/B01N9YVN6T
05:10.19physketsIt looks like it has a linux driver
05:11.32physketshttps://wikidevi.com/wiki/AzureWave_AW-NU706H
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05:15.34physketsIt says "Probable Linux driver"
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05:17.21alkisgYeah it supposedly "probably" might work
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05:17.41physketsWhat WiFi card has the best "free" drivers, as well as "abilities" (to work as an access-point)?
05:18.02physkets(and supports atleast 802.11n)
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05:20.36alkisghttps://wikidevi.com/wiki/List_of_Wi-Fi_Device_IDs_in_Linux
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05:32.51physketsYes, but most of them are non-free, I think... no?
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05:56.07physketsLooking into possible free and capable chipsets, the only one that satisfied this seems to be "ath9k_htc":
05:56.12physketshttps://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc
05:56.37physkets^This says that the firmware is free, but Debian still categorizes it as 'non-free':
05:56.50physketshttps://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-atheros
05:56.52physketsWhy?
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06:06.54physketsOh! It's just that it isn't in 'stable' yet:
06:06.55physketshttps://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-ath9k-htc
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06:12.05physketsHmmm... so if I get a card using this chipset, I'll have to install 'testing' or 'unstable'
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06:32.26simbalionWhat to do when pulse audio crashes, pulseaudio --start returns daemon failed to start? Is there a way to fix this without rebooting?
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06:34.02DonVladHi, I want to loose my plebness and join Debian (using Ubuntu right) now
06:34.15DonVladwill Android studio work fine on Debian?
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06:57.32nkuttlersimbalion: try to get a more verbose error
06:57.46simbalionnkuttler: I tried -v and -vvv but I couldn't get anything useful
06:57.48Haohmaru? chroot
06:57.51nkuttlerDonVlad: that's just some java app, isn't it? yeah, should work
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06:58.05simbalionif I ran it as sudo it'd show lots of info but not if I run it under my user account where it crashed
06:58.24nkuttlersimbalion: anything in dmesg /var/log/messages etc?
06:58.31Haohmaruone of the bots here used to say compact and useful instructions for changing your forgotten root password
06:58.42nkuttlerdpkg: chroot
06:58.42dpkgTo chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2).  Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys".  You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
06:58.52nkuttler~i forgot root's password
06:58.53aptYou forgot root's password?
06:59.04nkuttler!i forgot root's password
06:59.04dpkgFor GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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06:59.27Haohmaruah, that second one, thanks
06:59.50simbalionnkuttler: something about failing to load a cookie file, I think I saw that while searching for a solution earlier..
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07:00.06nkuttlersimbalion: please be specific
07:00.53simbalionnkuttler: /home/user/.config/pulse/cookie, no such file. I had tried moving my pulse to pulse.old and letting it re-create
07:01.41simbalionwoah now -vvv shows lots, if i use it under tmux
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07:06.59alkisgTry df -h
07:07.16simbalionoh and something about inotify watches, im wondering if there's some stale app running
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07:38.31shtrbI remember that there was an issue in jessy with that same card
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08:04.09thmsI cancelled "aptitude install phpmyadmin" (ctrl + c). I tried "aptitude remove phpmyadmin", but still, when I run aptitude install, it wants to install phpmyadmin. How can I tell aptitude to give up ?
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08:06.13at0mthms: i suggest "aptitude -f install" to fix current installation, then remove it
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08:44.29marmistrzHi! I have a problem installing debian via netinst
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08:44.50marmistrzI don't have CDs anywhere near so I used a second IDE drive for booting the netinst image
08:45.03marmistrz(i.e. I booted Debian from an IDE drive)
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08:45.22marmistrznow the Debian installer complains it can't find a needed CD
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08:49.38marmistrzOk, I realized it just wants me to tell it where the installation media is :P
08:49.42marmistrzthat could've been clearer
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10:46.52marmistrzHi! I haven't selected any DE because I want to install LXQt (the computer is really old)
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10:47.01marmistrzTo my surprise, GNOME was installed.
10:47.12Sir_Designerand it works?
10:47.32marmistrzWill `apt purge task-gnome-desktop` be enough to remove it?
10:48.00marmistrzSir_Designer: the installation has not finished yet, but it has 600MB RAM, so it will not :P
10:48.15marmistrz*the computer has 600MB RAM
10:48.28Sir_Designeri remember running debian on ppc iin 512
10:48.47marmistrzSir_Designer: I guess not under GNOME :P
10:49.53Sir_Designerxfce should run and support your hardware.  geuessing your choice was overruled for no video support
10:51.02Sir_DesignerPanie marmistrz, proszę nie udziwniać.
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10:54.50marmistrzSir_Designer: I suspect it's due to the fact that GNome is the default
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10:55.14marmistrzI just want to be sure how to uninstall GNOME
10:55.35marmistrzI really don't want to repeat the whole installation process :))
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11:20.33Wolf20180323hi all. I've two different wirelesa adapters. I'm using aircrack-ng and reaver to test my wps. The external interface is in monitor mode and is beimg used. In order to use aircrack-mg some thongs, like network-manager services and O think wpa_supplicant must be disabled (airmon-ng check kill). As the internal network manager is not used at all, I'd like to connect to Wi-Fi using that and performing penetration testing on the extwrnal at rhe same time. Ca
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11:29.00prout_hi there
11:29.12prout_netstat -ntu doesn't show any interface
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11:30.01prout_I'm on kali linux VM (virtualbox), host = arch linux, tried with NAT and bridged connection, I have internet connection on the VM
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11:30.48BCMMprout_: which one, out of Kali and Arch, do you think is Debian?
11:31.13Wolf20180323I'd go and ask those dumb kali folks prout_
11:31.51Wolf20180323Chunkz by any chance do you have experience with networking and connecting through terminal?
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11:32.13Wolf20180323BCMM I meant
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11:33.32BCMMWolf20180323: yes, but i don't really use wifi much
11:33.35Wolf20180323BTW, I'm on Debian Stretch, if that matters
11:33.55BCMMWolf20180323: nor did i entirely understand "As the internal network manager is not used at all"
11:34.19BCMMWolf20180323: is there any chance that you've accidentally used "network controller" and "network manager" interchangeably?
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11:36.25Wolf20180323no BCMM is just the penetration hacking stuff who kills network-manager, and I beleive wpa_supplicant as well. Also, I do the attacks with wlan1 (wifi dongle), wlan0 is nit connect to anything or being "used" by any commands. I can understand the advantages of ethernet...
11:37.11BCMMWolf20180323: right, so you have a wlan0 and a wlan1, and you'd like to use one of those to connect to your router for a perfectly ordinary internet connection, and keep the other one free for aircrack and so on?
11:37.27Wolf20180323BCMM yes exactly!
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11:37.45Wolf20180323BCMM I tried wpa_cli no success
11:38.00BCMMWolf20180323: if you want to carry on using NetworkManager for your "normal" interface, you could have a look at the unmanaged-devices option for N<
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11:38.29BCMMyou can run NM as normal, but tell it to ignore a specific network device
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11:38.53Wolf20180323BCMM could you teach me how?
11:39.04BCMMalso i think on debian, networkmanager will ignore any network that has an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
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11:40.38Wolf20180323BCMM should I write wlan1(wifi dongle aircrack stuff) there and do a service network-manager restart?
11:40.58BCMMWolf20180323: best to just google unmanaged-devices; i don't really use networkmanager
11:41.14BCMMbut i'm pretty sure it takes the MAC address of the device, not the interface name
11:41.23BCMManyway, i'm afk for a while now. sorry.
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11:41.47Wolf20180323BCMM ok thank you for the good tips
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11:51.46Wolf20180323maybe I found something disabling the wifi dongle on wpa supplicant abd netwrork manager I can only hope the stuff will work on Debian 9
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12:01.40Wolf20180323i found some stuff but it doesn't make sense to.me. conf files but they have to been edited and I don't know how...
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12:12.27Wolf20180323hi all. I've two different wirelesa adapters. I'm using aircrack-ng and reaver to test my wps. The external interface is in monitor mode and is beimg used. In order to use aircrack-mg network-manager and some things are killed and disabled by airmon-ng. The Internal interface (wlan0) is NOT being used AT ALL, so I'd like to browse the Internet connecting to Wi-Fi on the Internal adapter, while performing the pen testing on the extwrnal. Can somebody help
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12:24.36dpkgIf you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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12:30.29choice__Damn! I had two files in a directory "a" and "b". And I did "mv a b". So now b is gone. Can I get it back?
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12:31.04BCMMchoice__: no
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12:31.23BCMMchoice__: oh actually, i *think* moving a file over another file is an unlink/rename
12:31.27BCMMnot an overwrite
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12:31.36BCMMso you *might* be able to use extundelete or something
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12:32.25choice__BCMM: What is extundelete?
12:32.45BCMMchoice__: it's an undelete tool for ext filesystems
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12:33.03BCMMchoice: bear in mind that there is no recycle bin or anything like that for a deletion from command line
12:33.09shtrbAny I217-LM experienced used remember how to make e1000e work after reboot without full shutdown ? the same issue existed in jessi but I can't find anything related in logs
12:33.17choiceBCMM: So 'apt-get extundelete'?
12:33.20BCMMchoice: just tools that go through your free space for files that *might* not be overwritten yet
12:33.39BCMMchoice: if the file is valuable, unmount the disk immediately and plug it in to another system to use extundelete there
12:34.27choiceBCMM: 'another system'?
12:34.35Wolf20180323BCMM Hi sorry to disturb you again do you understand something on these configurations https://serverfault.com/questions/869857/systemd-how-to-selectively-disable-wpa-supplicant-for-a-specific-wlan-interface    I understood disabling it on wpa supplicant and network manager will solve my problem
12:35.35BCMMWolf20180323: no sorry, never used wpa_supplicant with systemd
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12:36.23Wolf20180323BCMM ok np
12:36.29BCMMchoice: everything you write to the disk has a chance of overwriting your deleted file
12:36.35shtrbWolf20180323, does it work without network-manager ?
12:36.41choiceBCMM: I know. Now how do I undelete the file?
12:36.48BCMMchoice: so if it's *very* important that you get this file back, plug the hdd in to another computer
12:36.58choiceBCMM: Why into another computer??
12:37.01permalinkhello . anyone has any idea wtf is happening with my PC here ?  https://streamable.com/ql9l1
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12:37.17BCMMchoice: because, presumably, you'd be installing extundelete on the same disk you're trying to recover stuff from
12:37.29choiceBCMM: It's not the disk I would install something on.
12:37.55BCMMchoice: well, that's ok then
12:37.58BCMMhave you unmounted it?
12:37.59choiceBCMM: The partition the file (hopefully) is on is not mounted to / or /home/ or anything.
12:38.08choiceBCMM: No, should I unmount it?
12:38.37permalinkif i have both monitors connected this weird thing happens . and the PC won't boot . i have Debian 9 Stetch but i don't think it has something to do with the OS
12:38.43BCMMchoice: probably just read http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
12:38.50BCMMphotorec might also be useful here
12:39.00choiceBCMM: Fucking SOURCEFORGE?
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12:39.08choiceIs this the 90s again?
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12:39.33RoyKchoice: there are still projects around on sourceorge ;)
12:39.36RoyKforge, even
12:39.46Wolf20180323shtrb yeah wlan1 is being used by aircrack and reavrr in monitor mode. I wanna use wlan0 with Wi-Fi aircrack kill network manager and wpa aupplicant but disabling wlan1 in the conf of those shluld sove the pronlem (typo small touch screen)
12:39.47choiceRoyK: I would never install anything from SF.
12:39.55RoyKchoice: because?
12:40.11BCMMi mean, if you don't know about package managers, i don't know if you're going to have much luck here really
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12:40.37choiceRoyK: I only use what is in the Debian repos.
12:40.44BCMMchoice: i absolutely refuse to basically read out documentation from sourceforge for you line by line
12:40.51choiceis trying debugfs ...
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12:40.57RoyKchoice: your best bet would be photorec - ext[234] doesn't have an undelete function
12:40.59BCMMso if you're not prepared to read a page from sourceforge, i guess you're stuck now
12:41.52choiceBCMM: I have no objections to *read* stuff on SF.
12:42.07RoyKBCMM: choice is probably afraid of a time machine or perhaps learning something new ;)
12:42.29BCMMchoice: it's in debian repos!
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12:43.01choice"extundelete /dev/sda4 --restore-all" .. hmm...
12:43.07shtrbWolf20180323, I think it is easier just to disable Network-Manager
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12:44.46BCMMchoice: obviously, sub in your partition
12:44.53choiceBCMM: Sure.
12:44.58choiceextundelete is running ...
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12:45.03g0zzyGot myself into a big pickle with Debian mysql-server. After deleting several users from mysql.user (none of which included root) i found that root could no longer log in to mysql. I then uninstalled and reinstalled with no change. I then got desperate and deleted /etc/mysql, before reinstalling, thinking there could be some conf files in the way. As a result, i have broken packages now and am not sure what to do
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12:45.16BCMMchoice: as RoyK says, there is no undelete feature in ext
12:45.16RoyKchoice: next time, make sure you have a good backup ;)
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12:45.23BCMMthis is just an unsupported trick that *might* work, sometimes
12:45.35MrKeunerHi, is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=893169 is referencing itself for the details?
12:45.37juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/893169 in rkhunter (closed): «rkhunter won't update definitions: Invalid WEB_CMD»; severity: grave; opened: 2018-03-17; last modified: 2018-03-17.
12:45.49MrKeunerElse, what am I missing?
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12:46.45choiceHmm.. it 'recovered' the file but it turned some hundred kilobytes into 302 bytes.
12:46.48choiceI'm fucked.
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12:47.38RoyKchoice: unplug the drive and run photorec against it
12:47.47choiceRoyK: 'unplug'?
12:47.47RoyKfrom another machine or something
12:48.00BCMMRoyK: it's not his root fs, and it's already unmounted
12:48.04choiceRoyK: The partition is not mounted.
12:48.15RoyKok, tried photorec?
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12:48.28shtrbchoice, please backup that data (disk/parttion) before any extra ction
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12:48.41RoyKshtrb: indeed
12:48.59choiceextundelete recovered some files and called them just 'file.12345' etc.
12:49.04RoyKchoice: better try like shtrb said - ddrescue the whole drive to somewhere else and then try recovery from there
12:49.06choiceMaybe my file is among those.
12:49.21RoyKchoice: what sort of file is this?
12:49.29bitesMrKeuner: he probably meant this bug #869760
12:49.30choiceAn sqlite3 db.
12:49.31juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/869760 in rkhunter (open, wontfix): «Update of rkhunter fails»; severity: important; opened: 2017-07-26; last modified: 2017-07-26.
12:49.49RoyKchoice: then run 'file file.*' and grep for sqlite
12:50.05choiceRoyK: sqlite files have the string "sqlite" in them?
12:50.13RoyKchoice: man file ;)
12:50.22choiceah
12:50.29choiceBut none of the files is big enough anyhow :(
12:50.42RoyKthen try photorec
12:50.46RoyKprobably the best choice
12:50.55shtrbWolf20180323, if you systemctl stop network-manager it will stop (for now) the service and you can work as you like , using disable will stop it from running all the time
12:50.59BCMMRoyK: what's wrong with doing it all on the real drive, as long as its unmounted?
12:51.17RoyKBCMM: not much, unless something is bad on the drive, physically
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12:51.50RoyKBCMM: personally, I always start out with ddrescue and then work on the image
12:52.01shtrbBCMM, it is better to work on a backup that way if any corrupt the data you are not totally %@#% and you also have extra stuff you might need
12:52.07choice"file" calls some of the recovered files "SQLite Rollback Journal". I guess that means they are sqlite files?
12:52.08RoyKgiven I have space for it, though
12:52.20RoyKchoice: that's just the journal
12:52.40RoyKchoice: sqlite creates those all the time and removes them after rolling back
12:52.44RoyKor commiting
12:52.51choiceRoyK: Is that stuff sqlite writes to /tmp/ or something?
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12:53.10g0zzyActually #mysql are suggesting that Debian packaging is causing a lot of problems
12:53.13RoyKnormally they are stored in the same directory as the sqlite database is
12:53.38RoyKg0zzy: they say a lot in there, don't they? ;)
12:53.39g0zzymeant #mariab
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12:55.39BCMMg0zzy: is that supposed to be relevant to the sqlite problem above, or just venting?
12:55.42choiceOk, let's try photorec.
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12:55.59choice'apt-get install testdisk'?
12:56.33MrKeunerbites, thanks
12:57.22g0zzyBCMM: They seem to think so but i'm not interested in blaming only in knowing why and restoring
12:57.23choiceWow, the photorec manpage is sparse on infos.
12:57.35choiceShould I just run 'photorec /dev/mypartition'?
12:57.38g0zzyCan you help?
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12:59.18RoyKchoice: yes
12:59.33choiceIt seems to have some guided process...
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13:01.46choiceOk.. photorec is running ...
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13:02.12choiceNice, it automatically gives the files the right extension.
13:02.43RoyKchoice: probably with 'file' magick
13:03.06choiceRoyK: Could be.
13:04.00choiceThe ETA algo seems to be way off.
13:04.19choiceIt's like 10 times slower then it estimates.
13:04.27RoyKchoice: with fat/ntfs, the filenames aren't lost, with extX, they are
13:04.42choiceI wonder what "mv a b" did.
13:04.58choiceI would assume it just changes pointers in the directory hirarchy.
13:05.01RoyKchoice: I guess that ETA may be a bit like https://xkcd.com/612/
13:05.14choiceWhy would it read and write the data?
13:05.22greycatchoice: within the same file system, yes, that's what mv (rename) does
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13:05.41greycatIf the destination is in a different file system, then it has to copy-and-delete.
13:05.50choicegreycat: It's on the same partition.
13:05.56choiceIt was just "mv a b".
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13:06.06choiceJust the filenames. No paths.
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13:06.15greycatand "b" is not an existing directory?
13:06.26choicegreycat: "a" and "b" are both files.
13:06.40choiceActually a.db and b.db. Two sqlite dbs.
13:06.47RoyKchoice: have you considered setting up a backup of this system so that next time this happens, you can fix it more easily?
13:06.49greycatthen it's just a rename
13:06.59choicephotorec is finished.
13:07.07choice"8959 files saved" .. let's see...
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13:07.10RoyKchoice: as I said https://xkcd.com/612/ ;)
13:07.16choiceRoyK: Yeah
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13:08.01choiceHmm.. it has put the files in 18 directories.
13:08.07choiceNow how do I find the right one...
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13:08.24RoyKchoice: find /dir -type f -exec file {} \; | grep -i sqlite
13:08.27RoyKfor instance
13:08.40choiceok ...
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13:09.20choiceFunny... it found a db. With 19MB. Way larger then the file I am missing.
13:09.36choiceBut sqlite opens it. And it has *one* of the tables in it.
13:09.41choiceSo what does that mean?
13:10.03choiceAnd the table is empty. Hmm...
13:10.07RoyKchoice: no idea
13:10.12RoyKchoice: possibly an old file
13:10.26choiceBut there never was a 19MB version.
13:10.40RoyKok, and no backup, of course
13:10.48RoyKchoice: what was it you had in this db?
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13:11.08choiceRoyK: My tasklist data of the last weeks.
13:11.39RoyKchoice: ok, so nothing important, then, I mean otherwise you would have backed it up, right ;)
13:11.47choiceIt's super important.
13:11.56RoyKthen keep a bloody backup
13:12.00choiceI lose all info about my work for the last week or so if I cannot recover it.
13:12.25choiceOk, I figured out what the recovered sqlite file is. It's indeed something else.
13:12.30RoyKdid you umount the drive just after this happened?
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13:12.50choiceRoyK: After a few 'ls' commands that I typed with horror in my face, yes.
13:12.57RoyKgood
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13:13.43RoyKwell, next up is to try to go through the disk itself
13:14.16RoyKI wrote a piece of software for tht some time back (I lost some pictures I had at an exhibition after a drive died)
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13:15.03choiceStrange that photorec did not recover the file.
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13:16.13RoyKchoice: not sure how it works, really
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13:17.55RoyKchoice: you may want to try 7.1 https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
13:17.57choiceOk, here comes the kicker!
13:18.15choiceEveryone ready to laugh at me / hate me?
13:18.32RoyKsmiles and waits
13:18.34CappyTHi guys, anyone here can suggest me a solution for IAM? I'm a total newbie in the matter of auth services
13:18.48choiceRoyK: Well, I did not type "mv a.db b.db" as I thought.
13:19.12RoyKthen what?
13:19.23choiceRoyK: I typed 'mv a.db b.bdb'.
13:19.27choiceRoyK: That typo saved me!
13:19.31RoyK:D
13:19.35choice:)
13:19.39n4dirhail to the typos !
13:20.04buglaughs
13:20.09choiceThanks for all the help everybody!!!
13:20.19choiceI'm so happy :)
13:20.34choiceAnd the phone rings...
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13:20.41RoyKchoice: setup backup!
13:21.01bug^
13:21.11choiceOk :)
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13:27.45RoyKchoice: I use duplicati - it's a bit heavy, but still, it works well, and with jottacloud as backend, since it's cheap and can store all of my data (almost 10TiB) for $7.50 a month
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13:28.44garriesI upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and when i try to boot up I get theis screen https://i.paste.pics/b8ea5cee7a9fa25f0ddcfe781026028d.png  ---  any idea?
13:29.39Wolf20180323I solved the problem check this pastebin.com/yLuQZZcP if you need to do.penetration testing and use Wi-Fi on two different wireless interfaces/cards Thanks everyome for the ideas
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13:30.19ThedarkbI think I'll try the non-free netinst
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13:31.33Tenkawagarries: any more details?
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13:31.55Tenkawahow? using which method? etc
13:32.16garriesTenkawa: i updated from debian8 using command line
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13:33.26garriesTenkawa: here is the tutorial i used....    https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-8-jessie-to-debian-9-stretch
13:34.00greycatdpkg jessie->stretch
13:34.00dpkgRead (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv .  In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade.
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13:35.27garriesgreycat: yea its the same advice as in the tutorial. i did the same
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13:36.24Tenkawathanks greycat i'll defer to you. I need to go afk
13:36.52Tenkawaand greetings btw
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13:38.20childare there online the debian potato iso to download?
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13:38.54greycat!archive
13:38.55dpkgarchive is, like, a collection of files.  'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools.  This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation.  Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive .  For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>.  Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/
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13:40.21garriesgreycat: what do think I should try ?
13:40.46childgreycat: thank you =*
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13:42.46childgreycat: the first one there is woody, didn't see potato
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13:50.05garriesI upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and when i try to boot up it hangs.  I get theis screen https://i.paste.pics/b8ea5cee7a9fa25f0ddcfe781026028d.png  ---  any idea?
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13:54.17ThedarkbThe installer has me going in a loop
13:54.37ThedarkbI select the network, I put in the key and then it wants me to select the network.
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13:55.27permalinkguys , can you please take a look at the issue i raised here at 15:37:00 ?
13:55.36ThedarkbTime zone?
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14:02.38SpeedyGpermalink: at 15:37 'my time' the only thing raised was a person saying 'bbl all' ...
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14:05.06SpeedyGpermalink: from the video you posted, might be a dead PSU...
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14:07.45SpeedyGor some power-feedback through the second monitor which causes the fan to spin
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14:13.30jasperarcolaHi, I'm running stretch and a service running under systemd coredumped, and I can't find the core dump... I've found the systemd-coredump but it's in stable-updates, not stable? So how do I capture and save coredumps on stretch?
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14:14.31Harm133hey guys, somehow my cifs mount seems to be using out port 445 and trying to connect to a random high port.. This should be other way aroudn right
14:15.01greycatIs it working?
14:15.04Harm133No
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14:15.32Harm133it looks like 192.168.2.20 (445) -> 10.0.22.22 (58582)
14:16.06Harm133whereas it should be  192.168.2.20 (58582) -> 10.0.22.22 (445)
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14:16.14Harm133never seen this behaviour...
14:16.21kompowiec2[m]systemd is correct version?
14:16.34kompowiec2[m]garries:
14:16.46Harm133systemd 215
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14:24.36[E]sci'm using an nvidia card version: 375.82 on debian stretch.  I get a lot of stutter when i play games like 3D games like urbanterror, is there a way to fix it?
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14:25.12greycatstart by identifying the video chipset: lspci -nn | grep -i vga
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14:35.56permalinkSpeedyG the PSU i fine , i also thought that and i changed the PSU right now i have the same problem
14:36.34permalinkthe PC won't boot with 2 monitors connected and as soon as i unplug one of the monitors the PC boots
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14:38.59permalinkbut after it boots i can plug the second monitor and it recognizes it very well , all fine .
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15:30.39permalinkSpeedyG : i use Debian Stretch with KDE . i use open source drivers ( AMDGPU i think )
15:31.05permalinkbtw in this case there is no need to create a xorg.conf file , right ?
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15:38.07zarezHello, does anyone explain me why I cannot ping google.com but I can resolveip google.com, wtf?
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15:51.15permalinkin case someone followed my issue , i think i fond a solution . the GPU is a HD 7770 GHz Editon ( with 1 DVI Dual Link , 2 mini DisplayPort, 1 HDMI) and i was using a DisplayPort to Mini Display-Port cable ( DP in one of the monitors an Mini DP in the GPU ) and apparently this cable has problems or the mini DP ports on the GPU
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15:52.48permalinki switched that cable with a DP to DP cable ( the original cable of the Acer monitor) + a DP to mini DP adaptor and now the PC boots with both monitors connected and also the weird PSU sound is gone
15:53.21greycatNice.
15:54.58permalinkso in case you encounter such problems check the cable. this possibly faulty cable is made by Delock company and is white so i would suggest to check it be careful if you want to use it
15:55.14greycatwas it brand new?
15:55.21permalinkyes , unused
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15:58.53permalinkjesus i changed the PSU in vain . i was worried that the drivers might me the cause ..
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16:00.13permalinki switched from Widows to Debian 6 months ago . it has been an interesting journey so far :) i like it
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16:07.03RoyKpermalink: widows or windows? ;)
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16:11.07permalinkRoyK Windows 10 aka The-MS-Botnet
16:12.25RoyKguessed so ;)
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16:21.46nightcrowCould someone help me?
16:23.20greycat!ask
16:23.20dpkgIf you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:24.19nightcrowokay then.  On login I'm getting thrown into emergency mode, but root user is locked
16:25.08[E]scgreycat, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750] [10de:1381] (rev a2)
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16:25.32nightcrowfix?
16:26.04greycat!i forgot root's password
16:26.04dpkgFor GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
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16:26.54nightcrowinit=bin/sh gives a tty error
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16:27.13greycathow did you get to this point?
16:27.40nightcrowpoorly modified /etc/fstab
16:28.26greycatSounds like there's more than one problem at work, but OK.  If you can't boot from the hard drive, boot from your installer, and get to a shell with Ctrl-Alt-F2.
16:28.36greycat!chroot
16:28.36dpkgTo chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2).  Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys".  You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target".
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16:28.53greycatThen you can follow those steps, modify the files, re-run update-grub.
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16:29.13nightcrowumm, I don't have a live disk/live cd
16:29.20greycatwhatever you installed with
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16:29.31annadaneOffsec-Shreak, change your password
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16:29.53Offsec-Shreakyah man thanks just was checking
16:30.16nightcrowIt came installed, greycat
16:31.17permalinknightcrow try to make a bootable stick with Etcher
16:31.24permalinkand another laptop / PC
16:31.49nightcrowhow will that work when it's having issues with fstab?
16:32.06nightcrowwill it recognize something else first?
16:32.13greycatyou need some way to boot a working Linux system and mount the partition that has the broken fstab file
16:32.23greycatthen you can edit the file
16:32.38nightcrowand how can that be done, is the issue?
16:32.55greycatmultiple ways have been suggested
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16:33.50nightcrowand I don't understand how any will work.  Putting a usb key won't work because it doesn't recognize it prior to trying to mount
16:34.19greycatIf the USB device is bootable, then your BIOS boots from that.  Once booted, you can attempt to mount the hard drive's partitions.
16:34.20permalinknightcrow use a working pc to make the bbotable usb
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16:34.56nightcrowI'm not sure that's true, greycat
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16:35.44nightcrowI've put a bootable usb in before and it didn't seem to work
16:36.07greycatIf your computer is very old, it may not be able to boot USB.  Or the firmware/BIOS may have been configured not to.
16:36.25nightcrowif either is true, what's next step?
16:36.49greycatMake a bootable CD-ROM.
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16:37.09greycat(or in the latter case, go into the firmware/BIOS and tell it to boot the USB device)
16:37.29zy]x[yzfrom the a package page at debian.org, how can I tell which repo the package lives in?
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16:38.01nightcrowhow would that help greycat?  same usb issue
16:38.14greycatI think it says "contrib" or "non-free" somewhere on the page if it's not in main.
16:38.20zy]x[yzoh, I see it.  it's in the title line in braces.  thanks
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16:39.02nightcrowwouldn't an external dvd drive have the same issues?
16:39.26greycatare you saying it does not have a CD or DVD drive at all?
16:39.33nightcrownope
16:39.44greycatNo, you're not saying that, or no, it does not have one?
16:39.59nightcrowwell actually yes, that is what I am saying
16:40.21greycatThen it's GOT to be new enough to boot USB.  Go into the firmware (F1 or F10 or ESC or F12 or god knows what key at boot time) and figure it out.
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16:41.11nightcrowI'm not sure if they disabled usb boot though
16:41.22greycatgo into the firmware and find out
16:41.56nightcrowI don't know how to get into the firmware
16:42.01nightcrowthat's the rub
16:42.14greycatif you can't figure it out by banging the keys then google your model number and find the manual
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16:43.12nightcrowahh, there is no way to do it
16:43.14nightcrownice
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16:43.52greycatOK, then install a fresh copy of Debian on a new hard drive and put the new hard drive into the machine.
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16:44.14nightcrowthe machine doesn't have a hard drive...
16:44.27greycatWhat the fuck does it have?  A gerbil?
16:44.35nightcrowmicrosd card
16:45.56permalinknightcrow do you use some sort of SBC ? Raspberry Pi , Odroid
16:46.04nightcrowyes
16:46.10nightcrowraspberry pi
16:46.42greycatIs it even Debian, or is it Raspbian?
16:47.31nightcrowResponds to /etc/debian_version as 9.4
16:47.32permalinkidk about Rasberry but on my Orange Pi Prime i use Armbian 5.38 and it works very well
16:48.19nightcrowpermalink, yeah, but you didn't fuck up your fstab
16:49.09nightcrowif I have to reinstall, I'll lose about 10 months worth of work
16:49.28annadaneis anyone unable to find the streamlink package in backports... received an email saying it was accepted to backports and it's been a while (apt update'd and all the usual stuff), i wonder if the mirror for backports is just really really delayed
16:49.38annadanei guess i can try to use another mirror
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16:51.01nightcrowso I'm trying to figure out how to recover rather than reinstall...
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16:52.08alkisgnightcrow: do you have an sd card reader, to put it in your pc and fix things?
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16:52.40nightcrowalkisg, the sd reader doesn't recognize the ext4 partition
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16:53.04nightcrowor rathee, the win box doesn't
16:53.28alkisgYes you'd need a linux box
16:53.43nightcrowwhich I don't have
16:53.43alkisgOr even a linux live cd to boot your pc with
16:53.59nightcrowwhich I also don't have
16:54.06alkisgYou can create a live usb stick
16:54.14alkisgIf you don't have anything to boot linux, you won't bootl inux
16:54.15permalinknightcrow try to clone the SC cad as it is now then install a Debian or whatever VM in windows with VirtualBox or VMWare
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16:54.33permalinkand see if you can read it from the VM
16:54.38permalinkmount it
16:54.55nightcrowpermalink, how well does vm work on an older machine?
16:54.56annadanewell whatever, it hasn't been that long, i'll wait
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16:55.09annadane(it's available in virtualenv anyway)
16:55.20permalinkwhat specs u have on this old pc ? cpu and ram
16:56.25nightcrow512 mb ran
16:56.35nightcrowp4 1.6 ghz
16:57.23nightcrowwas a cheap desktop when I got it in 2002
16:58.34permalinkdamn :)) that hurts . idk if p4 supports virtualisation . if you had 1,5 -2 gb ram and an old dual core it would have worked . you don't have to install the VM with a GUI
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16:58.53johnfghi folks!
16:59.09nightcrowAnd yes, I'm painfully aware that the specs on it are not much better than the pi, and with less RAM
16:59.10johnfgwell, I'm on stretch on my main server and most all is working!
16:59.33johnfgThanks to greycat and others who helped on my dist-upgrade.
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17:00.10johnfgopenafs-client did not upgrade (I'd had some trouble in jessie too, and had to revert to an older kernel.
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17:04.34permalinknightcrow i would halp you if you were in my city lol . try to fing a friend willing to let you temporary install a VM on his machine
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17:06.04alkisgOr just create a live usb stick/cd :)
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17:44.58_rubikHey all. I just bumped into a command called 'short', used in the context of generating/converint (?) a .short.yaml to .yaml. I can't find documentation on this anywhere. Does anyone know about it?
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17:45.59greycatthere's a #yaml channel ... maybe they know?
17:46.29_rubikgood call
17:46.40johnfgOk, I had to install linux-headers (don't know why they didn't get installed in the dist-upgrade, then dpkg-reconfigure openafs-modules-dkms, and now I'm back in business!
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17:48.06geojaHi, I am having an issue installing debian. I have a live USB. When I set my computer to use UEFI, the display is strange.
17:48.18geojaLines that are supposed to be vertical are diagonal.
17:48.31johnfggreycat: On my other stretch machine here in the office, I can't get my canon printer to print.
17:48.32geojaWhen I set my computer to legacy BIOS, no problem.
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17:49.00greycatso why did you put my name in front of that?
17:49.12garriesI upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch) and when i try to boot up I get theis screen https://i.paste.pics/b8ea5cee7a9fa25f0ddcfe781026028d.png  ---  any idea?
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17:52.36geojaHow could I look into what's wrong?
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17:57.12greycatwhy wouldn't they just remove the AUTHOR section...?
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17:57.43garriescan i get help regarding a failed bootup of my new Strech ?
17:58.03johnfg_Looking at journalctl -u cups, there's a wierd line: Mar 30 11:41:32 churchdebian /hpfax[6727]: [6727]: error: Failed to create /var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip, and I don't have *any* hp!
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17:58.36johnfg_And nothing of hp shows up either in Print Settings, or at localhost:631.
17:58.44johnfg_What to do to get rid of this?
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18:03.55geojaSo no one has had this problem of wrong display on UEFI native?
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18:29.20OtakuSenpaijelly: can you help me in solving my fan issue
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18:30.30annadaneOtakuSenpai, or if you post your question maybe *anyone* can try their hand at solving it
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18:31.16OtakuSenpaiannadane: yesterday i tried to solve my laptops issue of fan not starting up at boot time
18:31.22OtakuSenpaiin ##hardware
18:31.52OtakuSenpaithey said it might not be a hardware issue, as the fan settings were accessible and ok from bios
18:32.20OtakuSenpaiso i thought if i could try to look at the software side of the problem
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18:35.01OtakuSenpaialso cgmanager.service systemd service has recently stopped working in my laptop
18:35.10OtakuSenpaiidk if its related
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18:40.51PhotoJimsome fans are software-controlled, not BIOS-controlled
18:41.02PhotoJimbut I've not owned a machine with that configuration, so I've not learned how to deal with it
18:41.25OtakuSenpaii hav hp g5 245
18:41.38OtakuSenpaithts the laptops model
18:41.58ThedarkbHey PhotoJim
18:42.16PhotoJimThedarkb: hey
18:42.16ThedarkbFancy seeing you here.
18:42.18Thedarkb:)
18:42.20PhotoJimI get around :)
18:42.33ThedarkbI've been having trouble with wifi
18:42.36Thedarkbas is tradition.
18:42.57PhotoJimheh
18:43.01PhotoJimWiFi and Linux are fun
18:43.15PhotoJimI use wire whenever I can :) and I've replaced WiFi NICs with good Intel ones in laptops precisely to have better compatibility
18:43.30ThedarkbI might switch it out, it's iffy anyway.
18:43.34PhotoJimIntel cards are cheap and good
18:43.40ThedarkbIt is an Intel card :)
18:43.44PhotoJimand usually easy to install
18:43.46PhotoJimoh, should be OK then
18:43.56ThedarkbIt's got drivers but I can't get it to work.
18:44.09ThedarkbIt keeps getting soft blocked by something.
18:44.20Thedarkband even if I unblock it with rfkill, it won't work.
18:44.29Thedarkbany ideas?
18:44.46ThedarkbIf I am going to get another one, it'll have to be mini PCI not PCIe
18:44.56ThedarkbOld laptop.
18:45.03PhotoJimhow old?
18:45.06Thedarkb2005
18:45.13PhotoJimwhat CPU?
18:45.28ThedarkbLow voltage Pentium M Banias.
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18:45.32PhotoJimis it a BIOS incompatibility? some BIOSes only allow certain whitelisted cards
18:45.33Thedarkb1.4ghz
18:45.37ThedarkbNah, it's the right card.
18:45.41ThedarkbIt works under Lubuntu
18:45.49PhotoJimbut not Debian, hmm
18:46.00ThedarkbI know I have an identical spare somewhere
18:46.10ThedarkbI have a bit of a hoard.
18:46.30ThedarkbAt the moment I'm restoring my backup over USB 1.1 -_-
18:46.38ThedarkbI might have another crack at Debian though.
18:46.38PhotoJimthat's painful :)
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18:46.54ThedarkbI would use my USB 2.0 CardBus card in it but the slot's broken.
18:47.00Thedarkband by broken I mean torn off.
18:47.12nullbyte_how can i remove this from apt-get update is invalid repo
18:47.14nullbyte_E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ethereum/ethereum-qt/ubuntu artful Release' does not have a Release file.
18:47.16PhotoJimI've actually only got Debian running on one machine that has a GUI (I normally use it on headless machines)
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18:47.19PhotoJimouch
18:47.25nullbyte_to get a work apt-get update
18:47.29ThedarkbPrevious owner must have abused this thing.
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18:47.47ThedarkbThere are chunks taken out of the metal case.
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18:48.21ThedarkbAnyway, bought it on ebay as "for parts or not working" shoved an SSD in it and I've been using it as a dedicated youtube machine more or less.
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18:49.26PhotoJimcool
18:49.27ThedarkbIt's also worth noting that the Wifi works under TinyCore Linux.
18:49.31PhotoJimdoes it have a wired Ethernet port?
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18:49.34ThedarkbYeah
18:49.42PhotoJimthat might be your workaround :)
18:49.43ThedarkbThat's what I've been using.
18:50.01ThedarkbI do need Wifi though.
18:50.03PhotoJimI've got a couple of old 802.11g USB sticks I use for emergencies.  well-supported under Linux.
18:50.11PhotoJimI got them for about $3 at Office Depot years ago.
18:50.12nullbyte_who knows
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18:50.38ThedarkbI find the mac address randomization thing in the GNOME network manager screws up a lot of older cards.
18:50.59ThedarkbI have a Ralink USB adapter which works well under Linux but chokes when you try to change its MAC address
18:51.12PhotoJimahh, you're doing some tricky stuff
18:51.21PhotoJimI don't do torrents or anything so I don't obfuscate my MACs
18:51.30ThedarkbUbuntu does it by default.
18:51.37ThedarkbAs does Debian with GNOME
18:51.41LtLnullbyte_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list remove the ppa repo and run apt-get update, or apt update
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18:51.52ThedarkbI'm an LXDE person mainly but I do tend to use the GNOME Network Manager.
18:51.56PhotoJimnods
18:52.04bugnullbyte_, you can comment out that line in /etc/apt/sources.list
18:52.06ThedarkbIt's just 1 line in the config to turn it off.
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18:56.41Thedarkb1Lagged out there.
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19:24.10ThedarkbYeah, I restored my Lubuntu backup and the card works fine.
19:24.20ThedarkbI've tried Debian non-free too but it still won't work.
19:24.23ThedarkbAny ideas?
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19:24.30Thedarkboldstable maybe?
19:24.44geojaHi, I am trying to install Debian from a live usb. If I set my computer to UEFI, the display is wrong. Legacy works fine though.
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19:24.54geojaAny idea how to fix this?
19:25.04petemcuse bios
19:25.18petemcor try to update efi
19:25.38geojapetemc: What does update efi mean? Use a newer .efi file?
19:26.25petemcyour machines firmware
19:26.35geojaOk will try to do it.
19:27.45petemcyour problem is vertical lines being horizontal? thats pretty crazy
19:28.07ThedarkbHeard of it happening before.
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19:28.30petemclots of monitors support changingg orientation
19:28.30ThedarkbI had some crazy shit happen when I used the wrong microcode with my GPU
19:28.36OtakuSenpai\/w 27
19:28.43petemccould be monitor thing
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19:33.54OtakuSenpaihello
19:34.00OtakuSenpaiccan anyone help me
19:34.18OtakuSenpaipls
19:35.05annadaneOtakuSenpai, i happen to know you posted a question before, but not everyone does. if a sufficient amount of time passes before someone has answered your question then feel free to post it again
19:35.16annadanealso, those who just entered won't have scrollback
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19:39.32OtakuSenpaiyesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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19:40.54geojapetemc: Updated my bios/efi and still have the same problem.
19:41.26geojaThedarkb: Any idea how to fix this? Should I maybe get the microcode somewhere and put it in the liveusb somehow?
19:41.34ThedarkbNah, no idea.
19:41.47petemcgeoja: do you have a compelling reason to use uefi?
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19:45.03geojapetemc: Nope.
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19:45.52geojaI just thought it was newer than bios so better use newer software than older/possibly sooner to get deprecated one :).
19:46.38petemcif you have a larger than 2
19:46.55petemcTB root you need it, otherwise no
19:47.08OtakuSenpaiyesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
19:47.41geojapetemc: If this message was for me, I didn't get it.
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19:49.05petemcbios can only address volumes less than 2TB, if you want larger usae efi or add a 1MB biosboot partition
19:49.28petemcif this doesnt make sense to you, use bios
19:49.46geojaOh well this laptop has an ssd inside that is certainly not 2TB
19:49.52geojacertainly less :).
19:50.06petemcall good then :)
19:50.16geojaBut still, I'm wondering what is causing this. How could I go about troubleshooting this?
19:50.23geojaMaybe there is some logs somewhere?
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19:52.03D3stiny_I just installed mysql-server mysql-client and mysql-common but, when I do "sudo -u root -p" a message appeared and tell me "MariaDB monitor"
19:52.07petemcgeoja: it sounds like a low level hardware communication issue
19:52.12D3stiny_But, I never installed mariadb-server
19:52.17D3stiny_Is this normal?
19:52.21greycatmariadb replaced mysql in stretch
19:52.29D3stiny_Ooooooh... okay okay
19:52.51D3stiny_So, if I do "apt install mysql-server" it will install mariadb-server ?
19:52.52D3stiny_Thats it?
19:53.04D3stiny_Sorry ahah, I'm not a pro
19:53.10annadaneindeed
19:53.13greycat,info mysql-server
19:53.14juddPackage mysql-server (database, optional) in stretch/amd64: MySQL database server binaries and system database setup [transitional]. Version: 5.5.9999+default; Size: 1.7k; Installed: 8k
19:53.37greycat"transitional" -- probably too subtle, was hoping for something a bit more explicit there
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19:54.31greycat,depends default-mysql-server
19:54.32juddPackage default-mysql-server in stretch/amd64 -- depends: mariadb-server-10.1.
19:54.46OtakuSenpaiyesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
19:54.50D3stiny_Okaaaay
19:54.57D3stiny_So its a dependance, thats it?
19:55.11D3stiny_Thanks guys, and sorry for stealing ur time
19:55.23annadanenot at all. we're here specifically for this kind of thing
19:55.35annadanealso because some of us are addicted to irc but anyway...
19:56.22geojapetemc: Yes, it is weird, horizonral lines are displayed properly thought. Only the vertical ones are all tilted..
19:56.31geojaAnyways, bios it is then :(.
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19:58.18geojapetemc: UEFI with GCM looks fine though.
19:58.32petemci dont know what that is
19:58.44geojaWas it "GCM"? Maybe "GMS".. I forgot the acronym..
19:58.50geojaSomething called hybrid uefi
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19:59.51annadaneOtakuSenpai, and if nobody does answer you here you can also try the mailing list: debian-user@lists.debian.org
20:00.05OtakuSenpai:C
20:00.19petemcgeoja: does the "tilting" occur before debian boots?
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20:01.47geojapetemc: Nope, after. Actually, I have the first screen, the grub menu, displayed correctly.
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20:02.23OtakuSenpaiyesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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20:03.15petemcgeoja: then it doesnt sound like hardware, sorry
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20:07.12geojapetemc: Hmm, I'm not sure I can solve it myself anyway :(.
20:07.33petemcyou solved it already, bios works
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20:08.29geojaOh, CSM was the acronym.
20:08.52geojaWell, it does boot, but I still don't get what went wrong.
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20:10.10OtakuSenpaiyesterday i had a talk about my laptops fan not working properly in ##Hardware, and they found out tht its not a hardware issue, so i thought i did give the software side a hand on it, and also the cgmanager.service systemd service isnt working properly
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20:14.48meteany good advice guy, I would like to upgrade one of my last systems from debian 8 to 9, but I would like to prevent 'upgrading' mysql to mariaDB, is there any easy solution for this?
20:15.06greycatwhy?
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20:15.48TyrfingMjolnirIs there a script that can be run to write down everything that is available of hardware on a PC I randomly boot?
20:15.52TyrfingMjolnirPreforably a rescue boot of some sorts.
20:16.00annadanemariadb as far as i know has identical functionality to mysql, it's just a fork not owned by oracle
20:16.02metebecause mariaDB is in this specific case slower in answering queries than mysql is, unfortunately
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20:19.13greycatwell, that sounds like a problem you really ought to sort out in the mariadb configs... but... looks like you can blacklist a package in /etc/apt/preferences according to https://www.tecmint.com/disable-lock-blacklist-package-updates-ubuntu-debian-apt/
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20:19.57metethanks greycat, will clone the VM and try it out :)
20:20.42meteit seems simply, that mriaDB is slower for min/max/avg queries over many records...
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20:21.11meteas each query is single threaded, and the whole CPU core is busy, there I think isn't much to optimize
20:21.11greycatcompared to the same version of mysql?  or compared to an older version?
20:21.36metemysql is and older one
20:21.48metebut even the newest mysql is still a bit faster, 5-10%
20:21.54meteeven tried percona...
20:22.45umbrellawetccs?
20:23.25umbrellawethere creditcard?
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20:48.14dutchfishOtakuSenpai, thats 2 questions? maybe for the first one, have a look at fancontrol if your bios doesnt support that in acpi. The second question might be that in stable on some systems systemd doesnt quiet get cgroups see: https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/1678#issuecomment-313303096
20:49.21dutchfishOtakuSenpai, assuming you are trying to start a container like lxc
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21:16.06l0gic__does debian support athos10k?
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21:19.21Tom_-i don't know, have you checked duckduckgo.com/google? and wiki.debian.org
21:19.27Tom_-sounds like it probably does
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21:20.22abrotmandpkg: ath10k
21:20.22dpkgath10k is a Linux kernel driver supporting PCIe 802.11ac (a/b/g/n compatible) wireless LAN devices based on the Qualcomm Atheros QCA988x 2.0 family of chips (PCI IDs 168c:003c, 168c:abcd).  Introduced at Linux 3.11.  Firmware from userspace is required and not currently packaged (bug #724970), ask me about <ath10k firmware>.  http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath10k  #ath10k on irc.freenode.net.
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21:23.47foul_owlAnyone know of a clipboard manager that allows you to stick entries?
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21:32.18Emilso umm
21:32.28Emildeluser --remove-all-files is broken on debian
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21:33.07annadanestable? and broken how
21:33.14l0gic__dpkg: athos10k firmware
21:33.14dpkgl0gic__: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
21:33.27l0gic__dpkg: ath10k firmware
21:33.27dpkgFirmware required by the <ath10k> driver is currently not available from the <linux-firmware> repository.  See http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath10k/firmware for more information.
21:33.29Emilannadane: 9.4 stable yeah, requires package perl-modules but that does not exist
21:33.40Emilannadane: it suggests perl-base
21:33.44Emilbut that's already installed
21:33.45annadaneuhhhhh
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21:33.50annadanethat... is weird
21:34.15Emilit's particularly the --remove-all-files that's broken
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21:36.14hypn0https://packages.debian.org/stretch/perl-modules-5.24 ?
21:36.21Emiloh could be
21:36.22Emilthat
21:36.32annadaneyeah, that's the default
21:36.33l0gic__so i guess my firmware i need is in backports, how would i go about getting it?
21:36.48annadanei know that because it constantly showed up in my autoremove after an upgrade of stable > sid
21:37.08Emilyeah lol forgot the apt-get update
21:37.19annadaneyou're silly. :)
21:37.29Emilit could suggest that though
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21:45.27DirksonHey all. Having an issue with python3-distutils 3.6.5-1 and libpython3.6-stdlib 3.6.5-1 both trying to overwrite the same file. How do I tell apt "No, just remove these, stop trying to fix this impossible situation"?
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21:47.16garriesmy newly  ungraded debian9 doesnt boot up. here is the screen it hangs on https://i.paste.pics/b8ea5cee7a9fa25f0ddcfe781026028d.png
21:48.33annadaneDirkson, so first off, you're using testing/sid; the channel for that for future reference is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net; second, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894456 python is kind of broken right now
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21:49.24annadanei get that you're asking "how do i tell apt this" and not "why is this happening" but yeah, #debian-next on oftc is the right channel for that
21:50.07annadaneDirkson, message 19 provides one user's solution: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894456#1
21:51.13annadanesorry, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894456#19
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22:17.23woxenxHi. Does anyone know how to assign a variable when using "Screen"?
22:18.04woxenxi want to run the command sudo screen VARIABLE="asdf" program
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22:18.34woxenxany ideas? screen just tells me "cannot exec" and "no such file or directory"
22:18.45woxenx(running that command once screen has started works just fine)
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22:19.24Tom_-i think screen causes .bashrc to be run when a new shell is opened
22:19.34Tom_-you can put your environment variable in there
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22:20.23woxenxmmm how?
22:20.32woxenxoh, ok
22:20.58woxenxi want to put that screen to boot at startup as sudo. should I put that variable in root .bashrc file?
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22:26.48EmilHey what's the correct package to install to enable tlsv1.3 on debian
22:28.36annadane,v openssl
22:28.37juddPackage: openssl on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u3; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u7; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u8; jessie-backports: 1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.0f-3+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.1.0f-3+deb9u2; buster: 1.1.0h-2; sid: 1.1.0h-2; experimental: 1.1.1~~pre3-1
22:28.44annadanenvm
22:28.59Emilah, also missed the keyword nginx
22:29.27Emilbecause I installed nginx-extras, which on my current debian install accepts tlsv1.3 just fine but on the server I just span up same package and I get no tlsv1.3
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22:31.22Emilfound the issue: I had manually added the nginx repos to sources.list
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22:33.31fnlkjSomebody know why there seems to be a strong preference amongst those producing security-based OS's for using Debian to base it on, and maintain so much of the original parts of .. how if not coincidental as such, would Deb. be seen more favorable for those?
22:34.27fnlkjAlso ones pertaining to encryption and possibly somewhat essential routing tasks such as to ascertain avoiding dns-, ip- leak etc. while forcing all (or a certain kind, or that from an app..) through... for example TOR.
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22:35.18fnlkjSeems commonly favored for encryption & anonymite measures as well . for some reason!  Anyway, just curiious.. and I think I like the notion of them gruops favoring this...for wahtever reason while still unbeknownst to me, seems a good thing overall I think. :o)
22:36.10annadanei guess it depends on the OS but debian stable has a) well tested packages and b) a lot of them
22:36.22fnlkjyeah cool..
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22:37.32fnlkjUbuntu, doesn't it have.... uh, what's the name.. zeitgeist, poltergeist? lol, sorry; probably wrong.. anyway I meant to point out some apps which are presumably not very privacy-friendly in nature likely potentially compromising and bad for some who'd value anonymity and counter-forensic potential highly..
22:37.58fnlkjThe program, among some otehr undesirable ones ..whichever they were -as well,did something such as ... constatntly indexing files on disk..
22:38.22Emilokay hmm why isn't it upgrading
22:38.37fnlkjnot too unlike Windows search-indexer in function I'd imagine.. Likely nice for convenient swiftly finding a file as it's already been indxed, but ..  may not be a good thing for all
22:38.49fnlkjEmil... details, please?
22:39.15fnlkjU can ping and ur local LAN is fine..?  can reach external hosts? dns fine, tried alternative ones? what about alternative official deb mirrors..?
22:39.39annadaneemil is talking about something else from before you got here
22:40.30fnlkjSorry if that was obtrusive, overly direct and almost confrontational lol. truth b told im quite a n0b myself, and know little besides a thing here and there really... may be wrong or misunderstanding too..^ :d  anyway, just seemed short on details and thought may be easier to assist - me or others - if proviing more infoz :]
22:42.41fnlkjannadane: sry just noticed ur reply.  .. oh, sorry then, guess I missed whatever relevant and my bad likely confusing..sry n nvm then :d
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22:46.44EmilThe issue is that the package nginx from the nginx repos conflicts with nginx-extras
22:47.01Emiland after intalling nginx if I attempt to install nginx-extras it will remove the existing nginx package
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22:47.17Emilso I guess I'll just stick with normal nginx without the extras (I don't think I even use them)
22:47.46Emil"conflicts" is perhaps a strong word, the nginx-extras install will just remove the existing nginx install
22:49.39l0gic__isnt ath10k with debian? i was told it should be
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22:52.55fnlkjath10k... reminds me of my wifi cards, 5k and 9k iirc... is there some newer series named 10k?
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22:53.35fnlkjif so, would yuo be able to tell if that'd be a nice upgrade, and possibly if also there likely are - or soon would be - drivers enabling frame/packet injecting with that card as well?
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22:54.43fnlkjgithub.com/0x90/wifi-arsenal (iirc.."wifi-arsenal" may be slight typo?)...neway, taht guy, among others, may have some kernel patches, mods enabling use of higher tx power, other channels and what, and various firmware for lotta wireless egar not found easily elsewhere. May be interesting to some (otehrs) too possibly Id guess
22:55.02l0gic__this is my lspci https://pastebin.com/cMmSdePK
22:55.31fnlkjEmil: I think, the extras would not be installed by-default, unless individually enabled seperately..? Not sure however
22:56.15fnlkjIf you do get the extras- package, you could use some... assistance in aiding to setup & config it... example the one at.... github.com/Angristan  (some nginx auto- dl, config & install-script there. Simply watching the source of it may be help+ful too
22:56.39fnlkjIt would have option to compile with LIbreSSL or ur systems openssl , some additional nice addons for nginx , and such...
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22:58.10fnlkjI guess things like changing version, at all any signs as to hint towards what web server or OS is used should be diligently searched out and removed anyway, for sake of securityy atleast I would wanna that - and as such be taking care to possibly manually compile after searching thru them files atleast.
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22:58.41fnlkj..possibly providing some false response and other bits to match that to mislead automated scanners and ppl trying to exploit ya b0x :]
22:59.00sine0bin and sbin contains binaries correct, but where else? im trying to find busybox location
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23:03.46Thedarkb-X40I gave up on Debian on this thing.
23:03.48Thedarkb-X40For now anyway.
23:04.16Thedarkb-X40What Wifi card would you recommend for this?
23:04.22Thedarkb-X40Mini PCI, not express
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23:24.08equwalHello, I have been trying to get a startup script working (/etc/init.d/name-of-it), but I can't find current documentation. I get the LSB-tags warning, and it doesn't start on startup. Where should I look?
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