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| 00:01.40 | ksk | kodeeo: hello. Please don't ask to ask ;) |
| 00:02.13 | kodeeo | I'm a noob to irc, I'm sorry if I do wrong stuff |
| 00:02.29 | kodeeo | I came here bc I need some help and I don't know where else to find |
| 00:03.28 | ksk | if it is a problem with Debian GNU/Linux then this might be the right place. As stated, feel free to ask. |
| 00:04.09 | kodeeo | Thank you very much. The problem I have is with kali Linux, which is a Debian based distro. Is this the right place? |
| 00:04.31 | kodeeo | I'm not native speaker so forgive me for my bad English |
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| 00:05.03 | awal1 | no |
| 00:05.17 | awal1 | dpkg: based on debian |
| 00:05.17 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 00:07.10 | kodeeo | I think mine is a noob problem, so maybe you can help me anyway. I tried to install the latest Nvidia drivers, everything seemed to be fine until I reboot. Now, when I try to boot the OS, it just shows me an empty black screen. Any wonder on which could be the problem or where can I ask for a solution? |
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| 00:09.04 | abrotman | kodeeo: this is not hte correct place. ask the Kali folks or maybe try ##linux |
| 00:11.00 | kodeeo | Okay, thank you anyway guys. |
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| 00:44.19 | nuuuciano_ | hi there! someone on debian jessie & mate? (huayra linux distro)... I am having isues with some pdf files, evince, okular, shows its as blank pages... the only way I found to see it is using mupdf (but it is too minimal, can not print for example, etc...) |
| 00:44.45 | nuuuciano_ | no idea what to do, check, etc... tried searching, without luck for the moment... |
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| 00:59.06 | hyperlumic | nuuuciano_: So is this Debian, or Huayra? |
| 01:00.47 | awal1 | dpkg: huayra |
| 01:00.47 | dpkg | Huayra is a derivative of Debian developed in Argentina. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about <based on debian>. Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Solo Debian es soportado en #debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. http://huayra.conectarigualdad.gob.ar/ #huayragnulinux on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 01:02.44 | nuuuciano_ | to me huayra is debian too |
| 01:02.54 | nuuuciano_ | its core is debian |
| 01:03.04 | nuuuciano_ | almost all its packages are debian |
| 01:03.16 | nuuuciano_ | but, who cares |
| 01:03.18 | nuuuciano_ | bye! |
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| 01:08.27 | expert975 | How likely is my system to break if I go to the testing branch? |
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| 01:16.38 | awal1 | expert975, let me check my crystal ball :P |
| 01:16.53 | expert975 | awal1: please do |
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| 01:17.47 | awal1 | expert975, looks like it may explode resulting in a huge black hole |
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| 01:18.13 | expert975 | awal1: better not then |
| 01:18.20 | awal1 | lol |
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| 01:19.50 | awal1 | start with https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html expert975 |
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| 01:52.55 | devrikx | Hello, I've gotten debian buster installed on my Samsung Galaxy Book - Got everything working except the Mobile Broadband and the wifi - looking for somee help getting them working. The wifi is qualcomm QCA6174 - I"ve tried dkms and the diedrik github variant - neither works. The mobile broadband I can't even figure out what the chipset is let alone how to get it working. Anyone with the know-how able to help me out? |
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| 01:53.41 | devrikx | the cdc_ driver enabled device is my phone, NOT the built-in sim card |
| 01:53.47 | devrikx | oops |
| 01:54.00 | devrikx | i did not mean to post the same bit twice, meant to follow up with: |
| 01:54.03 | devrikx | Complimenting my previous post - I've taken the liberty to use the wireless script found at the ubuntu forums for some extra debug info: As non-root: http://paste.debian.net/1019597/ and as root: http://paste.debian.net/1019598/ |
| 01:55.27 | devrikx | Bluetooth works, and can usb tether and bt tether for inet, but the actual wifi just doesnt want to cooperate with me, and lspci and/or lsusb simply do not show a 3g/4g modem but its there, the windows install utilizes it |
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| 01:56.21 | devrikx | at one point I did have the option to enable the mobile broadband in power setings, but after updating the kernel to 4.15, neither on 4.13 or 4.15 does it show any more |
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| 02:03.12 | ShadeS | hellow |
| 02:04.12 | ShadeS | i am trying to copy /home/* on my friends linenode host to his box in his garage; the line node host is some glish garbage, which I have ot log in via web browser |
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| 02:04.35 | ShadeS | my username on the box in his garage is a non root account with sudo privledges |
| 02:04.45 | ShadeS | scp: /home/linenode//home: Permission denied |
| 02:04.49 | ShadeS | why does it list two / |
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| 02:05.39 | ShadeS | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.45 | ShadeS | is the command I am running, what am I doing wrong? |
| 02:05.57 | ShadeS | I am running this from the glish console on the line node host |
| 02:06.19 | ShadeS | glish logged me in as root, do I have to su to myusername or create myusername on the linenode host before I can copy it like this? |
| 02:06.41 | ShadeS | ls -la shows myuser on the garage host is owned by root:root |
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| 02:06.49 | ShadeS | erm actually it's myuser:myuser |
| 02:07.03 | ShadeS | i'm sorry it's root:root |
| 02:07.20 | ShadeS | cause i had to sudo mkdir linenode in that home directory on the box |
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| 02:20.10 | devrikx | It's been a while since I've scp'd anything off of the same network. Are you using ssh keys? |
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| 02:23.06 | abrotman | ShadeS: does /home/linenode/home/ exist? |
| 02:23.30 | abrotman | ls -l /home/linenode/ .. who owns it? |
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| 02:24.53 | dvs | devrikx, What does "lspci -nn | grep -i net" say? |
| 02:25.01 | devrikx | ShadeS: and if you're behind a router you'll need to port forward |
| 02:25.46 | devrikx | dvs: 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:003e] (rev 32) |
| 02:26.23 | dvs | ,pciid 168c:003e |
| 02:26.24 | judd | [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with kernel module 'ath10k-pci' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:003e |
| 02:26.56 | dvs | devrikx, oh, maybe try loading the "firmware-atheros" package |
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| 02:27.06 | devrikx | dvs: I've tried firmware-atheros, the dkms source build, and diedrik's github driver via dkms as well |
| 02:27.16 | devrikx | there's no errors, the module loads, but wifi never becomes available |
| 02:27.41 | devrikx | oops i'm getting mixed up |
| 02:27.50 | devrikx | I did try firmware atheros |
| 02:28.07 | devrikx | firmware-atheros is already the newest version (20170823-1) |
| 02:28.34 | devrikx | I have a netgear wifi adapter too, for which I did the dkms source build, and diedriks' github driver - that isnt working either |
| 02:28.42 | devrikx | sorry about the confusion either way |
| 02:29.25 | dvs | devrikx, And "iwlist wlan0 scan" does say anything. |
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| 02:30.06 | devrikx | dvs: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 02:30.48 | dvs | devrikx, Oh maybe the wifi device isn't called wlan0. What does "ip addr" say? |
| 02:30.50 | rant | you do know wifi is not the same as a 3/4g CDMA/EVDO modem right? |
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| 02:31.13 | ShadeS | devrikx: yeah that's not ht eproblem i woulda not been even been able to hit the IP |
| 02:31.16 | ShadeS | problem is resolved now |
| 02:31.21 | ShadeS | i figured out where my permission hangup was |
| 02:31.41 | devrikx | ShadeS: Ah yea, I overlooked that - awesome, glad you got it |
| 02:31.49 | devrikx | dvs: sec, paste-binning it |
| 02:33.06 | ShadeS | yeah now I get to finish setting up this e-store |
| 02:33.30 | devrikx | dvs; https://pastebin.com/VvekridH |
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| 02:34.58 | devrikx | dvs: not quite sure if I"m supposed to manually create something in interfaces -> used to it automagically being there when adapter is recognized and supported - I installed from dvd, and plugging in my phone just works, same with bluetooth tethering |
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| 02:35.46 | devrikx | rant: yes, I would like to fix both |
| 02:36.15 | devrikx | the galaxy book has atheros wifi, qualcomm bluetooth, and a built-in sim card |
| 02:36.28 | devrikx | bluetooth works, wifi recognized but not working sim not recognized at all |
| 02:36.28 | dvs | devrikx, you shouldn't have to manually create device nodes. |
| 02:37.02 | dvs | devrikx, i don |
| 02:37.13 | dvs | t see a wifi device listed though. |
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| 02:37.32 | devrikx | dvs: yea its not listed in ip addr |
| 02:38.07 | devrikx | dvs: lspci shows - 01:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32) |
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| 02:39.47 | devrikx | dvs: lsmod | grep ath shows - ath10k_pci 53248 0, ath10k_core 311296 1 ath10k_pci, ath 32768 1 ath10k_core, mac80211 798720 1 ath10k_core, cfg80211 720896 3 mac80211,ath,ath10k_core |
| 02:39.49 | dvs | devrikx, and "lsmod | grep ath10k-pci" doesn't list anything? |
| 02:40.36 | jimm | devrikx, is that machine on the net in some other way? (maybe you also have an eth or something) |
| 02:40.59 | dvs | jimm, iwlist says so. |
| 02:41.06 | devrikx | dvs: sudo rfkill shows 0: hci0: Bluetooth, Soft blocked: no, Hard blocked: no |
| 02:41.24 | devrikx | jimm: yes, I have my phone tethered via bt atm |
| 02:42.11 | devrikx | jimm, dvs: I also have 'lsusb' - Bus 001 Device 013: ID 0846:9052 NetGear, Inc. A6100 AC600 DB Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8811AU] |
| 02:42.34 | devrikx | and THAT one I did a dkms source build, and tried diedriks, lsmod shows the module loaded - that also does not seem to give me network options either |
| 02:42.41 | devrikx | its the 8811au realtek chipset |
| 02:42.49 | jimm | ok... could you: ifconfig -a | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 02:43.01 | jimm | if that works, you should get a url |
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| 02:43.25 | devrikx | jimm: ifconfig -a | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 02:43.29 | devrikx | oops sor |
| 02:43.35 | devrikx | bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 02:43.38 | jimm | yeah :) |
| 02:43.56 | cstk421 | is dump the go to to create a full image of a debian OS ? by full i mean exact same state that its in. or is rsync the way to go ? |
| 02:44.04 | jimm | oh, try: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 02:44.20 | devrikx | jimm: hmm, no such file or directory |
| 02:44.37 | cstk421 | i need to move a server from one host to another without any changes |
| 02:45.09 | jimm | no ifconfig, not too surprising, ifconfig's old |
| 02:45.31 | devrikx | I'm on buster if that helps any |
| 02:45.45 | devrikx | 4.15.0-2-amd64 |
| 02:46.19 | jimm | and do you have nc installed? try nc with no params |
| 02:46.34 | devrikx | gives me: Cmd line: |
| 02:47.03 | jimm | so it's waiting for something? |
| 02:47.10 | devrikx | yea, there's a prompt waiting |
| 02:47.27 | jimm | ok, so it's installed... try: ctrl-c |
| 02:47.54 | devrikx | yea, we've left the prompt |
| 02:48.18 | michael2 | hi all. is "sid" a real release? or is sid always just testing or unstable? |
| 02:48.21 | jimm | ok... try this: ip link | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 02:48.37 | dvs | michael2, sid is always unstable. |
| 02:48.54 | devrikx | jimm: http://termbin.com/esxr |
| 02:49.04 | jimm | it werked :) |
| 02:49.18 | devrikx | yea, I'm on bluetooth tethering atm, so there's net on this laptop |
| 02:49.34 | devrikx | if you got that already, my bad - just not sure if you did catch that bit |
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| 02:50.24 | michael2 | dvs: thanks, so sid is not really a "normal" release - it really just means the pakages in unstable - which will eventually become, jessie or stretch or buster etc? |
| 02:50.30 | jimm | lemme check something |
| 02:50.37 | devrikx | jimm: np |
| 02:50.43 | dvs | michael2, exactly |
| 02:51.17 | devrikx | michael12: people run sid as an OS, its just 'unstable' You just have to be very careful with upgrading, and have to pay attention and control when you let it upgrade at times |
| 02:51.29 | devrikx | bad name reference :P |
| 02:51.32 | michael2 | dvs: thanks |
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| 02:52.59 | dvs | np |
| 02:53.12 | expert975 | I'm trying to go from stable to testing, but apt feels like removing all the cool apps :( |
| 02:53.28 | expert975 | Am I missing something? |
| 02:53.45 | devrikx | expert975: its normal, those packages might be of a higher version, or missing in testing |
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| 02:54.38 | devrikx | if you have testing in your sources.list, you can do 'apt-cache policy <package> and see if its in testing |
| 02:55.24 | devrikx | and if not, it might be in sid, and you could potentially pull it from sid into testing -> there's a good guide from a debian user on priorities and linking sid in |
| 02:55.34 | devrikx | lemme try ot find it |
| 02:56.02 | devrikx | well its not the guy's website, but the amswer is on: https://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing |
| 02:57.50 | expert975 | devrikx: 'apt-cache policy ffmpeg' says version '7:3.4.2-1+b1' is available for buster, and yet 'apt full-upgrade' says it'll remove it |
| 02:58.02 | jimm | ok, finally found what I was looking for |
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| 02:58.34 | devrikx | expert975, there are likely other versions of the same package, and some other piece of softare in testing probably requires one of those 'other' versions |
| 02:58.35 | jimm | try this one: ip link show | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 02:59.22 | devrikx | expert975: that's the thing with mixing or 'pinning', there's dependency chains, and removing one piece (or just a specific version) can break them |
| 02:59.57 | devrikx | expert975: see if the dist-upgrade command shows another version of that package being installed or upgraded, even though that version is being removed...? |
| 02:59.59 | devrikx | jimm: sec |
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| 03:01.03 | devrikx | jimm: http://termbin.com/g0wb |
| 03:01.58 | expert975 | devrikx: 'apt full-upgrade | grep ffmpeg' shows ffmpeg only once |
| 03:02.21 | devrikx | expert975, I can only think of perhaps a dependency of it is not available |
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| 03:02.40 | expert975 | devrikx: does that mean buster is broken? |
| 03:02.41 | devrikx | im on testing, i'll try installing it, sec |
| 03:02.48 | devrikx | nah buster is working good for me |
| 03:03.04 | expert975 | devrikx: does that mean my system is broken? |
| 03:03.25 | devrikx | The following NEW packages will be installed: ffmpeg libavdevice57 libsdl2-2.0-0 |
| 03:03.29 | cstk421 | how does one create a full system image of a Debian 9 OS ? |
| 03:03.50 | devrikx | expert975: no not at all, you're upgrading from stable right? apt knows what it's doing, usually :P |
| 03:03.53 | dvs | cstk421, clonezilla? |
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| 03:04.25 | cstk421 | dvs: does that work on a running system ? |
| 03:04.27 | expert975 | devrikx: I'm on stable right now. 'apt full-upgrade' says '2015 upgraded, 293 newly installed, 392 to remove and 20 not upgraded' |
| 03:04.32 | devrikx | expert975, ultimately I can install it, so once you upgrade, you should be able to reinstall it |
| 03:04.32 | dvs | cstk421, no |
| 03:04.46 | jimm | you only have two interfaces according to that, lo (localhost/loopback) and bnep0, dunno what that one is |
| 03:04.58 | expert975 | devrikx: looks like it wants to get rid of Gnome |
| 03:05.02 | jimm | but it's up |
| 03:05.28 | devrikx | expert975: yea, you have a particular version of gnome, and will upgrade to testing's version, so many things will be removed, and in particular order - to properly access dependencies, etc |
| 03:05.57 | devrikx | I typically would remove stable entries in sources.list and then would replace them with testing enties, and do: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:06.23 | expert975 | devrikx: I did replace stable entries with buster |
| 03:06.42 | expert975 | devrikx: So should I take note of what's being removed then reinstall it? |
| 03:06.44 | devrikx | ok so you're using full-upgrade to ensuer the full de |
| 03:07.05 | jimm | well bring your current dist uptodate befor you change up |
| 03:07.07 | devrikx | expert975: definitley. definitely take note of whats being removed, ensure its available |
| 03:07.14 | devrikx | and yea, what jimm said |
| 03:07.27 | devrikx | you have to run update first and get a proper cache if not already done |
| 03:07.52 | expert975 | devrikx: I just did an upgrade, got security stuff |
| 03:08.15 | devrikx | expert975: ok, I cant really say why its not showing it as being reinstalled, and only as removed |
| 03:08.25 | devrikx | but I do have it available to me in testing and it is installable for me, just did it |
| 03:08.55 | devrikx | if you're not gonna die a horrible death if something goes wrong, have a backup of an installer handy, I would at this point do the upgrade and reinstrall what I need |
| 03:09.19 | devrikx | jimm:: Yea, its my bluetooth tether |
| 03:09.35 | jimm | expert975, to your earlier question, dunno about now, but it's possible for buster (testing) to be broken |
| 03:10.41 | jimm | devrikx, it's weird that it's not showing your wireless interfaces |
| 03:10.52 | devrikx | jimm: yea :\ |
| 03:11.20 | devrikx | tyvm for trying to help, I keep searching and searching and trying, hopefully I'll get it or someone wil lhav ea magic answer eventually |
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| 03:12.43 | jimm | devrikx, when you do lspci -nn, how many lines is that? |
| 03:12.50 | jimm | wait, |
| 03:12.56 | jimm | I mean: |
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| 03:13.06 | jimm | lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 03:13.21 | dvs | I'm surprised ifconfig -a doesn't show them either. |
| 03:13.35 | dvs | jimm, already done |
| 03:13.55 | jimm | what was the pciid? |
| 03:14.14 | devrikx | jimm: 01:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:003e] (rev 32) |
| 03:14.24 | devrikx | i also have this: |
| 03:14.37 | jimm | , pciid [168c:003e] |
| 03:14.38 | judd | [168c:003e] is 'QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with kernel module 'ath10k-pci' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:003e |
| 03:14.43 | devrikx | jim:: http://paste.debian.net/1019597/ |
| 03:14.48 | devrikx | ^ non-root |
| 03:15.31 | devrikx | jimm: http://paste.debian.net/1019598/ <--- root |
| 03:15.44 | devrikx | its the typical wirelessinfo script ubuntu forums make you run |
| 03:15.48 | devrikx | gives ya the nitty gritty |
| 03:15.54 | devrikx | if links expired I can run em again |
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| 03:17.10 | jimm | you have an atheros pci card -and- an atheros usb? |
| 03:17.34 | devrikx | bluetooth (built-in) and wifi (built-in) |
| 03:17.44 | devrikx | pci is wifi, usb is bluetooth I believe |
| 03:17.54 | devrikx | possible quallcom is the sim too, but i'm guessing its the bluetooth |
| 03:17.56 | jimm | oh ok |
| 03:18.56 | devrikx | in that script you'll also see yet another samsung cdc interface, which is the phone usb tethered |
| 03:19.04 | devrikx | the bnep0 is the bluetooth tether |
| 03:19.14 | jimm | as root, could you do: dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 03:19.21 | devrikx | switched to bluetooth cuz battery was dying on phone |
| 03:19.25 | devrikx | sure, sec |
| 03:19.54 | jimm | I guess the only thing left is firmware |
| 03:20.02 | devrikx | http://termbin.com/qz57b |
| 03:20.32 | devrikx | jimm: yea, and I wasnt seeing any articles on it on the net, and lsmod shows ath10k properly loaded...i have no idea -_- |
| 03:20.58 | devrikx | what's odd, is (well its not odd cuz netgear stuff never works for me) I ALSO have a netgear wifi usb adapter, and that thing is realtek 8811au chipset |
| 03:21.09 | devrikx | dkms source build loads fine but wont load wifi, it just doesnt work |
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| 03:21.27 | devrikx | and I tried diedrik's github driver too via dkms, load fine, even shows diff from debian one...but won't load it |
| 03:21.45 | devrikx | i can even do without sim net if wifi works, cuz I can always switch to windows |
| 03:21.57 | devrikx | but would love to stop using phone for the deb install on this thing |
| 03:22.22 | devrikx | im worried i'll have to buy another wifi adapter, and hope later firmware fixes things |
| 03:23.35 | devrikx | i mean maybe I can try ndis_wrapper? or whatever it is that lets ya use the window's driver? |
| 03:24.15 | devrikx | i just, its an i5 tablet with 4gram, I dont wanna bog it down too much with virtualization, but I also have no clue what Im talking about - or where to begin with that |
| 03:24.38 | devrikx | :P |
| 03:24.43 | jimm | I dunno... the way it used to work, you'd get an interface if the driver and firmware loads |
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| 03:25.03 | devrikx | yea, and it IS working that way for the phone tetherig |
| 03:26.02 | devrikx | with realtek I know there was a bug with older kernels.... so maybe it just is what it is, but the atheros I've never usually had this problem with, even on other machines |
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| 03:27.10 | devrikx | i can say I had even more troulbe on stable |
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| 03:27.41 | devrikx | with buster, the spen works, touch works, multitouch pad works, everything works except for hibernate/low power state, but sleep resolves that just fine |
| 03:27.49 | jimm | what cpu do you have? |
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| 03:28.06 | devrikx | well, sound doesnt work either, but it does through bluetooth so i dont mind that bit |
| 03:28.08 | devrikx | intel i5 |
| 03:28.11 | devrikx | er lemme get that |
| 03:28.28 | jimm | me too |
| 03:28.29 | devrikx | http://termbin.com/qz57b |
| 03:28.37 | devrikx | oops |
| 03:28.41 | devrikx | Intel® Core™ i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz × 4 |
| 03:28.53 | devrikx | even the Intel® HD Graphics 620 (Kaby Lake GT2) works >< |
| 03:28.59 | devrikx | but not the wifi, sim, or sound. |
| 03:29.18 | devrikx | you have the galaxy book too? |
| 03:29.24 | devrikx | :) its a nice tablet! |
| 03:30.13 | jimm | what is it, a laptop? |
| 03:31.25 | devrikx | its a 2-in-1, 12" tablet/laptop (i5 intel based tablet with a dock) |
| 03:31.36 | devrikx | samsung galaxy book 12 LTE |
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| 03:32.02 | jimm | ok... hmm. |
| 03:32.32 | jimm | so you got a usb wireless and that's not working either? |
| 03:32.50 | devrikx | yea, a netgear ac600 |
| 03:33.27 | devrikx | the machine only has usb-c |
| 03:33.36 | devrikx | so my samsung galaxy note came with a usb-a to usb-c adapter |
| 03:33.37 | jimm | I wonder if it's some new kind of hardware communication |
| 03:33.46 | devrikx | I put a 4-port hub into the adapter and into the machine |
| 03:33.51 | devrikx | and the netgear goes into that |
| 03:34.32 | devrikx | i use a logitech mouse through it, it works - so i'd hope its not a translation issue, if that makes sense |
| 03:34.51 | devrikx | yea I wonder also if its some new layer between the wifi/sound/sim chipsets and the mobo or whatever |
| 03:34.56 | jimm | so you know the hub works |
| 03:35.00 | devrikx | yea it works |
| 03:35.03 | devrikx | using the mouse now |
| 03:35.26 | devrikx | and the netgear does show up at a device node (if terminology is correct) |
| 03:35.28 | jimm | can you swap the mouse and the netgear? |
| 03:35.35 | devrikx | Bus 001 Device 013: ID 0846:9052 NetGear, Inc. A6100 AC600 DB Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8811AU] |
| 03:35.43 | devrikx | yea sure |
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| 03:37.24 | devrikx | Bus 001 Device 021: ID 0846:9052 NetGear, Inc. A6100 AC600 DB Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8811AU] <--- now |
| 03:37.26 | gabrielschulhof | Hey! I'm trying to build Node.js from source on debian 8 armel. I'm using qemu and a debootstrap. I've installed gcc-4.9, but it doesn't seem to support armv7. All the armv7 toolchains I can find are for cross-compilation. Yet I want to replace my compiler with an arv7-capable version. I don't want to install a cross-compiler. Does anybody know that repo where I can get such a compiler? |
| 03:37.29 | devrikx | but still nothing :\ |
| 03:37.58 | jimm | and mouse works in the other port? |
| 03:38.01 | devrikx | and lsmod shows the 8812au module loaded |
| 03:38.02 | devrikx | yea |
| 03:39.04 | jimm | are you paying for the bandwidth on the phone tether? |
| 03:39.18 | devrikx | yea, via an unlimited plan |
| 03:39.29 | devrikx | so its no more or less whether I use it or not |
| 03:39.47 | jimm | so you pay for the plan but not for time? |
| 03:39.47 | devrikx | but the tablet has built in lte also, works on the windows instance, and its fast, so would like to use it in debian too |
| 03:39.51 | devrikx | yea exactly |
| 03:40.07 | devrikx | its working for now dont get me wrong |
| 03:40.30 | devrikx | im making do, but definitely not ideal -> consumes way more battery in bt tethe rmode, on phone and tablet, an dusb tether leaves the phone unusable |
| 03:41.04 | devrikx | not ot mention, built in lte is waaay faster than tethered lte |
| 03:41.23 | devrikx | same with regards to built-in wifi, or even a wifi adapter |
| 03:41.39 | devrikx | so like, i'll go get a compatible wifi adapter next, and then focus on getting built-in stuffs to work |
| 03:42.21 | jimm | what's the exact model nimber of the device? |
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| 03:42.33 | devrikx | of the wifi adapter? |
| 03:42.43 | jimm | no, of the laptop |
| 03:42.51 | devrikx | oh, hmm sec |
| 03:43.55 | devrikx | SM-W727V |
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| 03:44.31 | devrikx | SW-VER: W727VVRU0AQD1 |
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| 03:47.51 | jimm | and it;s a samsung? |
| 03:48.15 | devrikx | Yea, on from Verizon |
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| 03:50.40 | devrikx | because there's literally no reference to the sim's card-reader's chipset anywhere, I can only guess that it's qualcomm. |
| 03:50.50 | devrikx | since qualcomm atheros runs both the othe rradio freq's too |
| 03:51.50 | devrikx | but all the guides I find online reference pcmcia or usb.... the very few built-ins I've seen posts for people are able to figure out the make by opening up the machine, which I cant do |
| 03:52.42 | jimm | is the device "unlocked"? |
| 03:53.10 | jimm | oops, gotta pause |
| 03:53.12 | devrikx | well, does it need to unlock for a diff OS? |
| 03:53.21 | devrikx | cuz if I reboot into windows it works great |
| 03:53.24 | devrikx | kk np |
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| 04:04.25 | jimm | devrikx, I'm about as stumped as you can get :) |
| 04:05.20 | devrikx | jim: lol np at all ,I greatly appreciate you trying |
| 04:05.31 | devrikx | jimm: * rather :P |
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| 04:08.40 | jimm | welcome... it's really weird that the device works in win but not in linux |
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| 04:14.09 | devrikx | yea, i hear that - I'll have to just wait it out, I'll probably find a wifi adapter from a pi that works, use that till somenew firmware hits - I use this guy to build when I'm on the road, so debian is kinda important |
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| 04:22.11 | jimm | I'm just saying that that shouldn't happen... unless samsung did something specific to cause it |
| 04:22.13 | ani_ | https://pastebin.com/AcFbVa02 <- apt-get purge gitlab |
| 04:23.15 | jimm | read the postrm script, see why it would return 8 |
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| 04:25.19 | jimm | if the rest is pertinent, it looks like it could be where the system is trying to get rid of the debian user andreas, and the postgres role andreas |
| 04:25.23 | ani_ | jimm: where can i find that? |
| 04:25.41 | ani_ | i would not want it to remove "andreas" |
| 04:25.46 | ani_ | that would be horrible |
| 04:25.50 | jimm | I forgot where it puts those things |
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| 04:26.13 | jimm | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.51 | jimm | does the user andreas mean something specific? |
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| 04:27.14 | jimm | is that your username? |
| 04:27.17 | ani_ | yes |
| 04:28.09 | jimm | ok, when you tried to install this thing, did you tell it to use "andreas" as,maybe, the admin user? |
| 04:28.22 | ani_ | can't remember |
| 04:28.56 | jimm | ok,,, and, you have postgres installed... |
| 04:29.26 | ani_ | yeah |
| 04:29.34 | jimm | ok, let's zoom out a moment... did you try gitlab and it didn't work? |
| 04:29.43 | ani_ | no |
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| 04:32.12 | jimm | anyway, it shouldn't try to get rid of your user when you purge it... it should remember whether it created the user, and if not, it snould not delete it |
| 04:32.54 | ani_ | yeah weird |
| 04:33.35 | jimm | yep, that would be a bug :) |
| 04:33.57 | ani_ | where do i report it? |
| 04:34.31 | jimm | you might have executables called bug or reportbug |
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| 04:39.05 | ani_ | i have bugpoint-3.8 |
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| 04:55.10 | trueman | Hi everyone - newbie here - Have installed 6.0.4 on an old PC but cannot log in. |
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| 04:58.49 | jim | trueman, how did you try to log in? |
| 04:59.16 | trueman | using username and pw |
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| 05:00.21 | jim | you have a handful of virtual consoles (your graphical display is usually on vt7) want to try one of those? |
| 05:00.30 | ani_ | how do i report a bug for package "gitlab"? |
| 05:01.07 | jim | ani, howbout: apt install reportbug first, then run reportbug |
| 05:03.05 | trueman | jim: the bit about virtual consoles - is that for me? |
| 05:03.34 | jim | yeah, do you want to try a text-based logon? |
| 05:04.03 | trueman | jim: I am a novice at this |
| 05:04.29 | jim | ok... just installed it? |
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| 05:04.55 | trueman | yes but can easily reinstall it |
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| 05:05.53 | jim | trueman, ok... first, I wonder how you're talking to us now? |
| 05:06.13 | trueman | using win 7 on another PC |
| 05:06.21 | jim | oh ok |
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| 05:08.28 | jim | so, your irc screen won't change when you do this... so first, explore the virtual consoles you have... (remember the graphical screen is on #7) first, take a look at vc 1, to do that: try ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 05:08.48 | jim | (F1 meaning your function key 1) |
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| 05:09.21 | jim | when you do that, do you see the rectangle of text at the top left? |
| 05:10.01 | trueman | Tried ctrl-alt-F1 and it does nothing - on screen it just shows my PC name and login |
| 05:11.27 | jim | ok,,, do you see at the top left of the text, where it says tty1? |
| 05:11.43 | trueman | yes |
| 05:12.14 | ani_ | i have done a reportbug, it is saved as a draft how do i send it final? |
| 05:12.44 | jim | ok, that's one of your virtual consoles... you have more of them... try: ctrl-alt-F2, F3, F4, F5, F6 |
| 05:13.43 | jim | trueman, notice when you do that, the tty1 changes |
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| 05:14.33 | jim | ani_, is your mail not set up yet? |
| 05:14.46 | ani_ | it is |
| 05:14.51 | ani_ | i need to submit it |
| 05:15.27 | jim | give me a few mins |
| 05:16.38 | trueman | jim: on ctrl-alt-F3 it has changed to tty3 more text has appeared and at the end it states" bob2259miller@templehof:~$" does this make sense? |
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| 05:17.44 | trueman | jim: once login is able I will reinstall with different username and pw |
| 05:21.10 | jim | trueman, right now, I've been showing you your virtual consoles... you should have 6, or maybe 7 if you have a graphical screen running |
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| 05:21.50 | jim | you can get to them with: ctrl-alt-F1 - ctrl-alt-F7 |
| 05:21.51 | trueman | jim: on screen is only text |
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| 05:22.42 | jim | you might not have the 7th one, maybe you didn't install the stuff that does the graphics thing |
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| 05:23.14 | trueman | I didn't load all the pkgs |
| 05:23.16 | jim | ani_, does it say where this draft is? |
| 05:23.22 | ani_ | no |
| 05:23.58 | jim | trueman, so you might have as little as just the base installed right now |
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| 05:24.49 | trueman | I think you are correct - I can easily reinstall as I am only tinkering around with it |
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| 05:25.46 | jim | trueman, the base of debian includes enought stuff so it can: boot, do a few rudamentary things (I'm not exactly sure which), and.,.. install more packages |
| 05:26.05 | jim | also, it should be able to get onto the net |
| 05:26.33 | trueman | For me to go on the net I normally use kppp |
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| 05:26.57 | jim | trueman, do you use a modem? |
| 05:27.06 | trueman | wireless modem |
| 05:27.22 | jim | so, like a cell phone? |
| 05:27.28 | trueman | yes |
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| 05:27.51 | jim | ok... how does this wireless modem connect to your machine? |
| 05:28.14 | trueman | I go into kppp and manually set it up |
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| 05:28.38 | jim | ok, also, what kind of plug does it use? |
| 05:28.56 | trueman | not sure what you mean by plug |
| 05:29.18 | jim | is it connected by a cable connected to your c omputer? |
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| 05:29.48 | trueman | yes wireless modem is connected to this pc by usb |
| 05:29.57 | jim | oh ok |
| 05:30.50 | jim | so, then you should have just the 6 virtual consoles, not the 7th one yet |
| 05:31.28 | trueman | only goes up to 5 |
| 05:31.30 | jim | when you used this kppp, which dist were you using? |
| 05:31.44 | trueman | sabayon linux |
| 05:31.49 | jim | ok |
| 05:32.40 | trueman | A lot of distros have kppp |
| 05:32.59 | jim | what we should do is make sure you can log in (or reinstall so you remember your two passwords) and go from there |
| 05:33.15 | jim | probably debian too |
| 05:33.30 | trueman | yes i can easily reinstall |
| 05:33.38 | trueman | i can do it now |
| 05:33.40 | jim | let's see/... |
| 05:33.49 | jim | , v kppp |
| 05:33.50 | judd | Package: kppp on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:4.8.4-1+b1; jessie: 4:4.13.1-1; stretch: 4:16.08.0-1+b1; buster: 4:17.08.3-1; sid: 4:17.08.3-1 |
| 05:34.05 | jim | yep debian has kppp |
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| 05:35.09 | jim | ok, maybe the best thing to do is reinstall... you'll be setting the passwords for two accounts, one, root, the other, is one you name |
| 05:35.19 | trueman | at boot selection screen - have selected text install |
| 05:35.35 | jim | probably good enough |
| 05:35.45 | jim | it won't affect things |
| 05:36.49 | jim | ani_, maybe your draft is in your home dir? try: ls -la |
| 05:37.08 | trueman | at root password stage |
| 05:37.31 | ani_ | jim: not that i can see no |
| 05:38.12 | trueman | jim: just pick any password? |
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| 05:38.59 | jim | trueman, yes... just make sure yuou remember it :) the root account is the one that can do anything |
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| 05:39.35 | jim | maybe write it down |
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| 05:40.35 | jim | (also whether you use capital or small letters, will matter, so remember that part too) |
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| 05:49.28 | trueman | jim: installed and when I try to log in text appears stating "Linux templehof 2.6.32-5-686 and then talks about free software but I still can't login |
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| 05:50.18 | jim | what do you see on the screen? |
| 05:50.43 | trueman | just a lot of white text on a black screen |
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| 05:50.58 | jim | wnat's the last line say? |
| 05:52.02 | trueman | last line states "bob3723miller@templehof:~$" without the commas |
| 05:52.13 | jim | you're logged in :) |
| 05:52.28 | trueman | cursor blinks after the $ sign |
| 05:52.36 | jim | try: echo "hello world" |
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| 05:53.43 | jim | does it reply with hello world? |
| 05:53.47 | trueman | still comes back to bob etc |
| 05:54.34 | trueman | I think another hello world came back |
| 05:54.35 | jim | the line just above that |
| 05:54.48 | jim | good :) that's what echo does |
| 05:54.51 | blaztek | trueman: you’re a command line junkie! |
| 05:55.27 | jim | ok, do you remember your root password? |
| 05:55.41 | trueman | yes |
| 05:56.28 | jim | ok, there's a command su (means "switch user") we'll use to get to your root acct |
| 05:56.44 | jim | try: su - |
| 05:56.57 | jim | and then enter your root password |
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| 05:57.49 | jim | when you do that, does the new prompt end with a #? |
| 05:58.11 | trueman | it has come back with root@templehof:/home/bob3723miller# |
| 05:58.37 | jim | good, you successfully logged in as root |
| 05:59.08 | jim | ,depends kppp |
| 05:59.09 | judd | Package kppp in stretch/amd64 -- depends: ppp, kde-runtime (>> 4:4.10), libc6 (>= 2.14), libkde3support4 (>= 4:4.3.4), libkdecore5 (>= 4:4.4.0), libkdeui5 (>= 4:4.4.0), libkio5 (>= 4:4.3.4), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-qt3support (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3), libstdc++6 (>= 5). |
| 06:00.20 | jim | ok, we should use something else, it depends on the graphical stuff being installed, which is fairly big |
| 06:01.18 | jim | so on your sabyon, kppp would make a new window that you would fill out? |
| 06:01.31 | trueman | yes |
| 06:02.23 | trueman | A GUI comes up and I just go to different parts and type in what is needed for it to work |
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| 06:02.29 | jim | we need to get something fairly small that you can use |
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| 06:02.49 | jelly | pppconfig to configure, and after than pon and poff to bring the link up and down |
| 06:03.23 | jim | jelly, should that stuff already be installed? |
| 06:03.39 | jelly | probably |
| 06:03.51 | jelly | if it's not, |
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| 06:04.17 | jim | we'll need to shuffle .debs between machines |
| 06:04.23 | jelly | packages ppp and pppconfig |
| 06:04.38 | jim | he doesn't have net yet |
| 06:04.51 | trueman | The pc with Debian only has a CD and SabLinux and a lot of other distros I have are DVD |
| 06:04.57 | jelly | but really how old is this machine and how much RAM does it have? Debian 6 is out of support. |
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| 06:05.36 | jelly | even Debian 7 has just one month of LTS left |
| 06:05.42 | jim | oh he has 6 with cds.... maybe ppp and pppconfig is on that cd |
| 06:06.00 | trueman | PC is approx 18YO has 512MB RAM runs on AMD athlon XP with 40 GBHDD |
| 06:07.11 | jim | what is 6, wheezy? |
| 06:07.22 | jelly | !squeeze |
| 06:07.22 | dpkg | Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" was released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Security support for Squeeze ended on 2014-05-31, but ask me about <squeeze-lts>. Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze ; ask me about <install squeeze> <squeeze release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. Currently <6.0.10>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 06:08.50 | trueman | Guys I am going to have to call it quits. Have to do some chores- Thx everyone for your help I might come back online tomorrow |
| 06:08.53 | jim | half a gig of ram is pretty small, but it should still woirk |
| 06:09.12 | jim | ok |
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| 06:09.39 | trueman | Thx everyone- enjoy the rest of your day- over and out |
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| 06:33.14 | jelly | !cve lookup CVE-2018-1000156 |
| 06:33.14 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2018-1000156 may be found at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2018-1000156 |
| 06:35.39 | ani_ | how do i finalize a pending reportbug message? |
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| 06:58.17 | pragomer | can I set volume over 100% , for example via alsamixer? |
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| 07:02.39 | alkisg | pragomer: afaik you can easily do it with pulseaudio |
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| 07:03.02 | alkisg | If you don't have pulseaudio installed for some reason, see this for alsa: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/adding-an-alsa-software-pre-amp-to-fix-low-sound-levels/ |
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| 07:04.11 | pragomer | i have pulseaudio installed. but see no solution to force the volume over 100% |
| 07:04.33 | alkisg | pragomer: either in the default mixer, or depending on the desktop environment, in the pavucontrol mixer |
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| 07:05.06 | Sia- | hi, if they are a bug inside the keyboard layout XKB, where should report it or where the DEV are active and responsible? because bug report on Xorg are almost dead. |
| 07:05.27 | pragomer | i have gnome installed |
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| 07:06.56 | alkisg | Sia-: link to the bug report that you filed in upstream xorg? |
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| 07:08.04 | alkisg | pragomer: go to the system settings => sound, there you can set it over 100% in gnome |
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| 07:09.41 | pragomer | omg.. yes.. such simple.. it worked.. it only did not work via panel.. thank you very much ! |
| 07:09.51 | alkisg | np |
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| 08:33.38 | jelly | yeah, that one's a known nuisance |
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| 08:34.55 | avian | how do I cleanly disable a per-user systemd unit that is enabled by a package with a symlink in /usr/lib/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants? |
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| 08:35.30 | avian | "systemctl --global disable ..." doesn't work since it only tries to delete a link in /etc/systemd/user |
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| 08:38.30 | avian | but systemd obviously also picks up things in /usr/lib/systemd/user/... because I see the unit is active after user login with "systemctl --user status" |
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| 08:48.22 | jelly | avian: can you mask it? |
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| 08:48.59 | jelly | wait, do you want to disable it for one user, or for all current and future users? |
| 08:49.12 | avian | all current and future users |
| 08:49.52 | jelly | gotcha. I have no clue, maybe ask the upstream channel #systemd if noone answers here |
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| 08:52.33 | avian | jelly, "systemctl --user mask" seems to do the job, thanks. |
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| 08:53.09 | avian | it now throws an error on login, but I can live with that. |
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| 09:01.30 | kallenp | Debian 9, ACPI error, any idea howto fixit ? https://pastebin.com/1WgzuKw1 |
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| 09:02.52 | kallenp | Output of lshw: https://pastebin.com/kYpYQNZn |
| 09:03.32 | alkisg | Guys I know debian releases when it's ready, but what's a rough estimate for the buster release, e.g. 1 year? 2 years? |
| 09:03.41 | jelly | kallenp: does it repeat forever? |
| 09:04.01 | kallenp | jelly: yes, every reboot :/ |
| 09:04.35 | jelly | I mean, does it stop after a while or does it keep filling the logs for as long as the system is up? |
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| 09:05.22 | jelly | if it just happens a couple times at boot, and nothing seems broken, you can just ignore it |
| 09:06.34 | kallenp | jelly: after reboot it's OK and not filling the logs. But it's not eye candy for my customer :D |
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| 09:07.47 | petn-randall | alkisg: Look at the paste release dates, and make your own assumptions. |
| 09:07.52 | petn-randall | *past |
| 09:08.29 | alkisg | petn-randall: unfortunately there isn't even a table with the past release dates, I'm currently creating it from the individual pages... |
| 09:09.03 | alkisg | Ah found one, ok |
| 09:09.23 | alkisg | So if we assume one release per two years, we might see buster in summer 2019... |
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| 09:11.29 | jelly | !release history |
| 09:11.29 | dpkg | Named after "Toy Story" characters. Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06), Wheezy(7; 2013-05-04), Jessie(8; 2015-04-25), Stretch (9; 2017-06-17). Next: Buster. http://deb.li/it56U |
| 09:11.39 | jelly | alkisg: don't assume anything. |
| 09:11.52 | jelly | that's the only safe option |
| 09:12.21 | jelly | kallenp: ask your customer's hw vendor to provide less broken ACPI firmware |
| 09:12.38 | jelly | kallenp: this kind of thing is sadly common |
| 09:12.40 | alkisg | would really love it if at some point debian decided to freeze at the same dates as ubuntu lts releases... and sure, after the freeze, release when it's ready... |
| 09:14.53 | manphiz | It seems Jessie is the last Debian to support Loongson... |
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| 09:18.51 | kallenp | jelly: ok, thank you |
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| 09:34.14 | Rooot | hello everyone, I cannot connect to a pc via ssh, I receive 'connection timed out'..I disabled firewall for ssh, but it didnt work |
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| 09:34.32 | Rooot | I run 'ssh -p portnumber user@IP' |
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| 09:35.28 | anusbleach | i took a shit |
| 09:35.36 | anusbleach | now i need to bleach my anus again |
| 09:35.37 | anusbleach | dammit |
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| 09:37.55 | jim | Rooot, have you ever sshed to that machine before |
| 09:38.15 | Rooot | jim, no |
| 09:38.25 | jim | can you ping it? |
| 09:38.33 | jelly | there could be any number of network elements preventing access, then |
| 09:38.54 | jelly | is it in the same network segment as the client? |
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| 09:39.09 | Rooot | jim, no, cant ping it |
| 09:39.14 | Rooot | jelly, yes |
| 09:39.36 | jelly | Rooot: ok, is its IP present in the arp cache on the client? arp -an |
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| 09:39.53 | jim | arp -an |
| 09:39.57 | Rooot | jelly, where is the client? |
| 09:40.07 | jim | oops meant to do that at a shell |
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| 09:40.19 | Rooot | jelly, you mean the local or the remote machine? |
| 09:40.31 | jelly | on the client, the local machine. "arp -a" if you're on windows |
| 09:40.36 | jim | the client is the machine you;'re sshing from |
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| 09:40.53 | Rooot | jelly, jim, right, thank you |
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| 09:41.33 | Rooot | should I run arp as admin? |
| 09:41.45 | Rooot | it gives command not found |
| 09:41.53 | Rooot | as normal user |
| 09:42.17 | Rooot | ok, ran as admin |
| 09:42.26 | Rooot | jelly, the IP is not there |
| 09:42.30 | jelly | do it right after trying to ping the remote |
| 09:42.58 | Rooot | jelly, no, the remote IP is not shown in the arp output |
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| 09:43.12 | PerfDave | The local and remote IPs are both something like 192.168.something? |
| 09:43.44 | Rooot | PerfDave, no, just one of them is like that |
| 09:44.11 | jelly | so then they're NOT on the same segment |
| 09:44.15 | Rooot | ah, sorry |
| 09:44.32 | Rooot | I misinterpreted your question |
| 09:44.55 | PerfDave | Rooot: What are the IPs? |
| 09:45.45 | Rooot | PerfDave, you are not asking seriously, right? |
| 09:46.08 | PerfDave | Rooot: Why do you say that? |
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| 09:51.57 | artorias64 | test |
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| 09:52.11 | PerfDave | !win artorias64 |
| 09:52.11 | dpkg | Congratulations, artorias64! You have won the US presidency! |
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| 09:52.22 | bolt | not an internet? |
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| 09:52.41 | artorias64 | my account can not send messages to this channel for some reason |
| 09:52.41 | PerfDave | bolt: There are many prizes on offer in #debian |
| 09:52.52 | PerfDave | artorias64: Apparently it can... |
| 09:53.05 | artorias64 | no, not this one. this one is not registered |
| 09:53.31 | artorias64 | All I get is "-!- #debian Cannot send to channel" |
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| 09:55.23 | artorias64 | Anyways ... i tried to change my DNS settings in Debian 9 amd64 by editing /etc/network/resolv.conf and a reboot but that doesn't work for me. What do I need to do? |
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| 10:00.08 | alkisg | artorias64: usually it's /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 10:06.07 | artorias64 | alkisg: yeah, this is what I edited, sorry |
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| 10:26.16 | sine0 | when downloading images that contain chinese characters they end up unicode or url encoded in the file name and any links to them break. can I set my local computer to have additional support for chinese characters and stop the renaming of files ? |
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| 11:35.36 | ksk | sine0: if you have utf-8 enabled IIRC you need to install fonts, but please dont ask me which |
| 11:35.52 | ksk | (someone said that to someone asking about japanese characters in here some time ago) |
| 11:36.33 | ksk | sine0: the package "task-chinese-s - Simplified Chinese environment" sounds good, imho. |
| 11:37.00 | ksk | there is also task-chinese-t for traditional Chinese environment. |
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| 11:51.56 | tdn | This HOWTO about securing NFS on Debian (https://wiki.debian.org/SecuringNFS) was written for Debian 4.0 (Etch). Is it still valid for Debian 9 and forward? |
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| 11:53.24 | jelly | unlikely, since linux did not have a decent NFS v4 implementation back then |
| 11:54.31 | RoyK | tdn: not quite - nfs4 is the thing now, and it runs over 2049/tcp - no portmapper needed - but if you want to run it without kerberos, make sure you use the "sec=sys" flag on both client and server. Also, those kernel parameters/tunables are unnecessary |
| 11:54.49 | ksk | tdn: the article only defines ports for NFS its subservices (which are defined per default) and suggest setting up a Firewall |
| 11:55.12 | ksk | so yeah, you can still do that (and just keep original ports etc) |
| 11:55.45 | RoyK | "ufw allow nfs" |
| 11:55.55 | ksk | I dont know about these "lockd module with options. |
| 11:55.58 | ksk | " |
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| 11:56.15 | ksk | and they are not explained at all in the doc, so I would maybe google the settings. |
| 11:56.19 | RoyK | you don't need lockd |
| 11:56.35 | ksk | I myself have setup NFS in the recent past and not setup anything like lockd either. |
| 11:57.05 | RoyK | seems lockd is part of rpc, which you don't need |
| 11:57.23 | RoyK | it's an nfs[23] thing |
| 11:57.28 | ksk | just set a restrictive IP-rang in /etc/exports, use firewalling, keep your macine up to date. |
| 11:57.54 | RoyK | ksk: and use sec=sys, otherwise you won't be able to do much without kerberos :þ |
| 11:58.17 | ksk | that does not ring a bell, mhm. |
| 11:59.14 | RoyK | well, you might get read access, but writes will be hard, or files created in places "other" can write, will be as "nobody", whatever user that may be at the moment |
| 11:59.35 | RoyK | ksk: google it ;) |
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| 12:01.55 | AikiLinux | Hello, I am trying to build a package for my R code, it seems to build but i am getting this error et the end of the build : error: binary build with no binary artifacts found; cannot distribute |
| 12:02.21 | AikiLinux | most of the issues with this error on google do not point to any advise on what might be the issue |
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| 12:05.30 | tdn | RoyK, ksk: I am looking at this article, because I have configured NFS to run on non-standard ports and use firewall on both server and clients. And I get this error all the time on the server: "lockd: cannot monitor" |
| 12:06.09 | tdn | And I am thinking it might be a firewall problem.. This is hinted by one of the comments in this link: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1155232 |
| 12:06.41 | RoyK | tdn: why do you a non-standard port? |
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| 12:08.00 | tdn | RoyK, because I once was at a place where I only had some given range available on some of the clients. This is a legacy issue, but now there is a lot of work in changing it on all hosts. Although it should probably be done some time in the future. But for now, I just want to debug the lockd/monitor error |
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| 12:10.45 | wr | have a western digital elements hard drive, when i connect it to win10 works, on debian it does a bip sound, what could it be? |
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| 12:13.45 | tdn | wr, what does SMART say? |
| 12:14.04 | tdn | wr, not sure about the beep sound, but is it bitlocker encrypted by any chance? |
| 12:14.32 | PerfDave | wr: When you say "connect it", is it a USB attached drive? |
| 12:15.33 | wr | tdn, PerfDave found problem, my debian is goofed up, works on another debian |
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| 12:18.19 | UukGoblin | any idea how to transfer files to/from my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge in Debian? jmtpfs hangs forever / I/O errors or causes phone to display "Allow device to access media?" dialog, after which problems still persist |
| 12:18.42 | tdn | I got a lot of errors like these in my syslog. Is there any way to not log all this? This is logged as a warning, which I dont really understand. Is it really something important? Do I have an error in my config? Apr 04 07:46:30 corvina sshd[63102]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 7: can't verify hostname: getaddrinfo(cursosacademia.magnet.cl-150 |
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| 12:19.19 | blaztek | UukGoblin: Dropbox? |
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| 12:19.50 | jelly | tdn: avoid using hostnames in hosts.allow, IP addresses only |
| 12:19.55 | blaztek | UukGoblin: sftp app? |
| 12:19.55 | UukGoblin | blaztek, I should've added: via USB cable |
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| 12:20.03 | blaztek | Okay |
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| 12:20.18 | themill | UukGoblin: kdeconnnect works well over wifi |
| 12:20.26 | jelly | tdn: oh wait, that's the other way round isn't it |
| 12:20.27 | UukGoblin | themill, wifi doesn't work well ;-) |
| 12:20.43 | UukGoblin | USB 2.0 is like 10x+ faster |
| 12:21.02 | themill | gave up with usb and android some years ago |
| 12:21.08 | UukGoblin | nodnod |
| 12:21.13 | bites | usb + tethering |
| 12:21.26 | jelly | UukGoblin: enable usb debugging, and adb ? |
| 12:21.31 | UukGoblin | yeah, I can do USB + tethering and sftp~ish apps in Termux, but that's kinda tedious |
| 12:21.46 | blaztek | UukGoblin: try the SDK stuff maybe |
| 12:21.47 | UukGoblin | jelly, ah yes, that could work too, thanks |
| 12:21.54 | UukGoblin | so MTP is officially out of the question? ;-) |
| 12:21.55 | colo-work | UukGoblin, gmtp works fine for me |
| 12:22.11 | colo-work | (mostly with an S5 running LineageOS; but also other Android devices) |
| 12:22.18 | jelly | I don't know of any stable and reliable mtp implementation |
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| 12:22.52 | UukGoblin | jelly, cool thanks |
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| 12:23.40 | UukGoblin | colo-work, thanks, it hangs up as soon as I try to connect the device; displays the same error message in the console as jmtpfs, so I'm assuming it uses the same broken libraries |
| 12:23.49 | SashaJ | !stretch |
| 12:23.50 | dpkg | Stretch is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17. "Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch . Ask me about <install stretch>, <release notes>, <jessie->stretch>. |
| 12:24.28 | colo-work | UukGoblin, if you have a lot of media on your device, it might just take a _long_ while for it to display anything useful |
| 12:24.38 | colo-work | (like, up to a few minutes) |
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| 12:24.44 | colo-work | at least it does so for me |
| 12:24.50 | colo-work | but it works flawlessly after that |
| 12:24.57 | UukGoblin | colo-work, oh, maybe *that's* why. Yeah I have a lot of media, and it takes a lot of time to display a lot of errors |
| 12:24.58 | tdn | jelly, I only use IP addresses in hosts.allow |
| 12:25.10 | tdn | jelly, and I do not know that particular host. I get this warning for all sorts of hosts |
| 12:25.14 | colo-work | I use another mtp implementation on archlinux with gvfs, which doesn't have that particular problem (i. e. slowness) |
| 12:25.17 | UukGoblin | colo-work, https://pastebin.com/Hbc5zFSa |
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| 12:25.30 | colo-work | UukGoblin, maybe try letting it rest for a few mins and grab a cup of coffee :) |
| 12:25.34 | tdn | jelly, it seems I get that when someone with borked revDNS tries to connect. |
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| 12:25.42 | jelly | could be |
| 12:25.44 | UukGoblin | takes about a minute to display line 3, and then some more to display lines 4+ |
| 12:25.51 | colo-work | hmm ok |
| 12:26.40 | jelly | tdn: if it'sannoying you could "UseDNS no" in sshd_config, it's not like the warning's that useful |
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| 12:27.13 | jelly | tdn: and you probably already have a brute-force deterrent like fail2ban in place |
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| 12:30.21 | blaztek | Is it even safe to have SSHd running publicly? So many sites from Russia trying to get into root and database users. Is OpenVPN better? |
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| 12:32.22 | jelly | blaztek: yes, given some precautions |
| 12:33.03 | ksk | blaztek: disable password-login (use ssh-keys) and you should be fine (bugs in sshd aside) |
| 12:33.59 | ksk | a brute-force attack is no longer possible then. But also if you had a good enough password noone is gonna bruteforce it via ssh. |
| 12:34.09 | blaztek | True but they still try plain text passwords. Lol. I guess it’s more annoying than anything. |
| 12:34.13 | ksk | (but it would tehroeticly be possible) |
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| 12:34.22 | blaztek | Good to know oak |
| 12:34.28 | blaztek | Ksk |
| 12:35.32 | ksk | once installed a box with a weak password, placed it in internet and then went of to do something really important. 1 day later when I came back it was crypto-mining already ;) |
| 12:36.01 | blaztek | Omg! |
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| 12:36.27 | ksk | password was not 1234 though, I was a little surprised. |
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| 12:38.16 | blaztek | Was it a word in the dictionary? |
| 12:38.20 | rtp2342 | is there a boot parameter to force the debian live initrd to take the squashfs image from a specific device, for example /dev/sda5 ? |
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| 12:41.16 | dka | How can I with sed or awk or a tool present in fresh debian 9 install, do the following text appending `sed '/"start":/a "start:prod": "hello",' package.json` . Currently my string starting spaces are trimmed |
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| 12:42.40 | rant | dka: sed -i 's/search-for-string/replace-with-string/g' *.glob |
| 12:42.59 | rant | where *.glob are the files you're looking to do this replacement in |
| 12:43.23 | dka | rant I want to append, so do I have to replace instead |
| 12:43.24 | dka | ? |
| 12:43.35 | rant | you could use # or something else as a delimiter if you will have / in your matchers |
| 12:43.53 | rant | well a replace could be an append if you include the original string :P |
| 12:43.55 | RoyK | or ues perl :þ |
| 12:44.05 | dka | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.29 | dka | rant, yeah but that makes my code less understandable |
| 12:44.35 | dka | But if thats the only way |
| 12:44.52 | RoyK | it's easy to write understandable perl |
| 12:45.10 | RoyK | but then, it's possibly far easier to write obfuscated perl :) |
| 12:45.12 | rant | yeah well idk what the hell you're doing but clearly you dont understand it already or you wouldnt be asking :P |
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| 12:45.32 | rant | but yeah, python and perl are both good at this sort of thing and both in a base system |
| 12:45.32 | dka | I was speaking of replacing that (in node): |
| 12:45.33 | dka | `sed -i "s/react-scripts start/REACT_APP_ENV=\\\${REACT_APP_ENV:-default} \\&\\& cp src\\/env\\/.env.\\$REACT_APP_ENV .env \\&\\& react-scripts start/g" ${name}/package.json`, |
| 12:45.34 | dka | with |
| 12:45.50 | RoyK | sed regex is ugly |
| 12:45.57 | RoyK | rants on |
| 12:46.20 | dka | `sed -i "s/\"react-scripts start\"/\"REACT_APP_ENV=\\\${REACT_APP_ENV:-default} \\&\\& cp src\\/env\\/.env.\\$REACT_APP_ENV .env \\&\\& react-scripts start\"\n \"start:staging\": \"REACT_APP_ENV=staging npm start\"/g" ${name}/package.json`, |
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| 12:46.43 | dka | That not regexp it's js executing bash command |
| 12:46.55 | dka | but thats a cool feature for injecting bash action in our tool |
| 12:47.07 | dka | but I rather edit the start command then append another command after that line |
| 12:47.18 | rtp2342 | smells command injection |
| 12:47.20 | dka | because I want to repeat and append 3 or 4 time after that line |
| 12:47.34 | dka | rtp2342, xD |
| 12:47.48 | rant | sounds to me like you need to scrap the whole thing and start over with some better foresight |
| 12:47.52 | RoyK | dka: just write a small script for that |
| 12:48.08 | RoyK | rant++ |
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| 12:57.05 | garries | hi. does debian9 work on 32 bit as well ? |
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| 12:57.33 | jim | sure dopes |
| 12:57.38 | jim | does |
| 12:57.53 | jim | umm 32 bit what? |
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| 12:58.16 | jim | ie, which cpu do you have? |
| 12:58.49 | jim | also, do you want to download an installer image that you can write to a usb stick? |
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| 12:59.04 | garries | jim: ProcessorIntel Core 2 Duo T7250 (Intel Core 2 Duo) |
| 12:59.24 | jim | isn't that 64 bit? |
| 12:59.46 | jim | but yes, you can run 32 bit on it either way |
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| 13:01.00 | garries | jim: i upgraded to debian9 and doesnt boot up. i am forced to boot an old kernel in order to use my machine :/ |
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| 13:01.47 | jim | so the old kernel and your new installation work together? |
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| 13:02.41 | jim | are you ircing from it now? |
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| 13:04.28 | garries | jim yes |
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| 13:04.56 | garries | jim: i select my old distro when booting up and it works with the old debian8 |
| 13:06.39 | petn-randall | garries: What errors do you get when you try to boot your debian9 installation? |
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| 13:12.21 | JordiGH | I'm running from the live usb Debian iso, and I'm trying to install grub to the laptop drive I've already imaged with the contents of my old laptop drive. |
| 13:12.51 | rant | garries: if your install is 64bit i.e. your packages are compiled for 64bit, you have to have a 64bit kernel as well, where as with 32bit software you can run it on a 32 or 64bit kernel.. which may or may not be your issue |
| 13:13.09 | JordiGH | It seems the target hard drive is called /dev/nvme0n1 ? |
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| 13:13.14 | JordiGH | That's a new one to me. |
| 13:13.25 | rant | just a thought since you said you have two installs.. perhaps you're trying to boot a 64bit install with a 32bit kernel |
| 13:13.40 | JordiGH | So it should be `grub-install /dev/nvme0n1`, right? |
| 13:13.48 | rant | JordiGH: probably an m2 device or something |
| 13:13.57 | JordiGH | And I should first chroot into the disk I just imaged. |
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| 13:14.27 | JordiGH | However, after I chroot, I can't see the actual /dev anymore under /dev. Should I also mount the live ISO /dev inside the chrooted disk image? |
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| 13:17.49 | JordiGH | Hmmmm... |
| 13:17.50 | JordiGH | https://zeldor.biz/2010/12/install-grub-from-chroot/ |
| 13:17.53 | JordiGH | Is this good advice? |
| 13:18.10 | bubak | JordiGH: before chroot do mount -o bind /dev /target/dev, the same for /proc, /sys, /dev/pts and also/tmp could be helpfull |
| 13:18.22 | JordiGH | bubak: Okay. |
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| 13:21.21 | JordiGH | And what device should I grub-install to? |
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| 13:21.45 | JordiGH | I have /dev/nvme0, /dev/nvme0n1, /dev/nvme0n1p1, /dev/nvme0n1p2, /dev/nvme0n1p3 |
| 13:21.52 | JordiGH | I guess the last three are partitions. |
| 13:21.54 | JordiGH | But what are the first two? |
| 13:22.45 | JordiGH | https://askubuntu.com/questions/696999/unable-to-install-grub-in-dev-nvme#798500 |
| 13:22.53 | JordiGH | That says I should install to /dev/nvme0n1 |
| 13:22.55 | JordiGH | Okay then! |
| 13:22.56 | JordiGH | Let's try that. |
| 13:23.24 | rtp2342 | wtf is a m2 device? |
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| 13:24.09 | rant | rtp2342: m2 is a pcie interface IIRC, commonly used for really high-speed flash-based storage (32GB/s or so) |
| 13:24.28 | JordiGH | Damn: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/48d77fe5 |
| 13:24.44 | rant | looks something like a stick of ram, but the connection is on the small side not the long side |
| 13:24.48 | rtp2342 | rant: and the driver support does not use the scsi layer? |
| 13:25.17 | rant | rtp2342: idk never actually used one, but aside from being referred to as m2 due to the interface they're also commonly called nvme |
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| 13:26.36 | rant | one good use for such a device would be as a disk cache.. since its way faster than SATA, USB, or anything else |
| 13:26.47 | JordiGH | Hrm, why can't my chroot do network? |
| 13:27.12 | rtp2342 | well SATA SSD is for enough for me :) |
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| 13:27.37 | JordiGH | I want to run apt install in the chroot. I think I need grub-efi-amd64 in the chroot. |
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| 13:28.12 | JordiGH | Oh, my chroot can do network, just can't do DNS. |
| 13:28.14 | JordiGH | Hmmmm... |
| 13:28.32 | tw | JordiGH: check chroot's /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:28.45 | rtp2342 | s/for/fast/ |
| 13:29.08 | tw | m2 != nvme. |
| 13:31.20 | tw | wlan and wwan cards also use ngff m.2 interfaces. it's not specific. |
| 13:31.49 | rant | yes.. nvme is indicating its using the pci express bus |
| 13:33.28 | JordiGH | Hm, running `apt install grub-efi-amd64` in the chroot also runs grub-install, right? |
| 13:33.31 | JordiGH | It seems to have done something. |
| 13:33.34 | JordiGH | Do I have grub now? |
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| 13:33.35 | JordiGH | Hmmmmm! |
| 13:34.41 | bubak | JordiGH: I usually just do something like dpkg-reconfigure <grup> and dpkg-reconfigure <kernel-package> |
| 13:35.33 | bubak | JordiGH: it will process all the relevant parts like initrd creation, put grub into master boot record and such |
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| 13:38.21 | JordiGH | Hmmmmm... I think that may have worked. Let's see! |
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| 13:39.51 | JordiGH | No :-/ |
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| 13:43.32 | quiliro | hello |
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| 13:43.45 | quiliro | thank you for making and supporting debian |
| 13:44.10 | quiliro | i would like to use a backport of kicad |
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| 13:44.57 | quiliro | i have activated the backports repo. but it would not find the new version after update |
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| 13:47.50 | petn-randall | ,v kicad |
| 13:47.51 | judd | Package: kicad on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.20120526+bzr3261-1; wheezy-backports: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3; jessie-backports: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4; jessie-backports-sloppy: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1; sid: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1; experimental: 5.0.0~rc1+dfsg1+20180318-2 |
| 13:48.08 | petn-randall | quiliro: What command are you using to upgrade it? |
| 13:49.57 | quiliro | sudo apt-get update |
| 13:50.11 | quiliro | sudo apt-get upgrade |
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| 13:50.19 | quiliro | ,v kicad |
| 13:50.20 | judd | Package: kicad on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.20120526+bzr3261-1; wheezy-backports: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.20140622+bzr4027-3; jessie-backports: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.0.5+dfsg1-4; jessie-backports-sloppy: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1; sid: 4.0.7+dfsg1-1; experimental: 5.0.0~rc1+dfsg1+20180318-2 |
| 13:50.40 | quiliro | 4.0.7+dfsg1-1~bpo9+1 |
| 13:50.44 | quiliro | cool! |
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| 13:51.58 | quiliro | i have stretch: |
| 13:51.58 | quiliro | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.58 | quiliro | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.58 | quiliro | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.01 | quiliro | <petn-randall> quiliro: What command are you using to upgrade it? [08:48] |
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| 13:53.45 | quiliro | hello again |
| 13:54.25 | quiliro | by mistake i pasted a lot of lines and got kicked |
| 13:54.28 | quiliro | sorry |
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| 13:56.39 | petn-randall | quiliro: indeed. Check https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ on how to install packages from backports. By default those packages are pinned lower so 'apt-get upgrade' won't upgrade all your packages to backports. |
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| 14:00.25 | quiliro | apt-get -t stretch-backports install kicad works |
| 14:00.48 | quiliro | petn-randall: thanks |
| 14:01.12 | JordiGH | Where is devices.map? |
| 14:01.26 | JordiGH | grub from the chroot said I had /dev/sda in there. |
| 14:01.42 | quiliro | synaptic would not be able to install? |
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| 14:02.24 | quiliro | i'm talking about packages from backports |
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| 14:08.05 | petn-randall | quiliro: I think it can, you need to pick the right version, though. |
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| 14:09.46 | Sepultura | Hallo |
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| 14:10.19 | Sepultura | does anyone have deeper knowledge about NAT? Espacially UDP/TCP Hole Punching? |
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| 14:10.51 | quiliro | petn-randall: i found it. i chose the prefered version... :-) |
| 14:11.16 | petn-randall | Sepultura: Just ask your question. |
| 14:11.37 | Sepultura | Is UDP and TCP Hole punching on every Router possible? |
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| 14:12.38 | petn-randall | Sepultura: No. And I haven't seen a case of TCP hole punching ever working. |
| 14:13.37 | petn-randall | Sepultura: There are also several different types of NAT, not all work with UDP hole punching. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation#Methods_of_translation |
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| 14:22.19 | jolt | Sepultura: If you really wanna make a hole for some reason, then it's usually better to get a VPS and setup a VPN to it from the computer that needs to have the hole punched. |
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| 14:23.02 | jolt | Sepultura: But it really depends on the use-case of what you are trying to achive. *bbl* |
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| 14:27.52 | JordiGH | grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB device for /dev/sda1. Check your device.map. |
| 14:27.59 | JordiGH | What's my device.map? |
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| 14:30.26 | petn-randall | JordiGH: What command are you running? |
| 14:30.35 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 14:30.36 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:30.39 | JordiGH | dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 |
| 14:30.50 | JordiGH | petn-randall: Trying to install grub onto a chroot. |
| 14:30.57 | petn-randall | JordiGH: Can you provide the complete output? |
| 14:31.06 | JordiGH | Sure, just a moment... |
| 14:31.45 | petn-randall | JordiGH: Is /dev/ (and /sys and /proc) mounted in your chroot? |
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| 14:32.55 | JordiGH | I think so, I did `mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev` `mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys` `mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc` |
| 14:33.23 | JordiGH | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f15b5d56 |
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| 14:35.12 | alkisg | JordiGH: are you booted in uefi mode? ls /sys/firmware/efi |
| 14:35.26 | alkisg | Did you also mount the efi partition? |
| 14:35.56 | JordiGH | Wait, did I mount proc and sys incorrectly? |
| 14:36.04 | JordiGH | They're not mounted with -o bind, are they? |
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| 14:36.08 | JordiGH | https://zeldor.biz/2010/12/install-grub-from-chroot/ |
| 14:36.17 | JordiGH | alkisg: Uh, the efi partition? |
| 14:36.31 | JordiGH | Is that what /dev/nvme0n1p1 is? |
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| 14:36.48 | BanHammor | that partition is usually mounted on /boot/efi |
| 14:36.59 | alkisg | JordiGH: it's a vfat partition, as opposed to ext4 etc |
| 14:37.01 | JordiGH | I see that /dev/nvme0n1p2 is my /boot partition and /dev/nvme0n1p3 is my root partition. |
| 14:37.09 | JordiGH | alkisg: Ah, yes, that must be it. |
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| 14:37.18 | BanHammor | and it's a normal FAT32 disk partition, usually 100 MB in size or so |
| 14:37.39 | alkisg | But first check if you are indeed booted in uefi mode, by running ls /sys/firmware/efi |
| 14:37.54 | JordiGH | alkisg: I see files in that sys directory. |
| 14:38.05 | JordiGH | Should I remount proc and sys correctly in the chroot? |
| 14:38.15 | alkisg | Which means you're in uefi mode, ok |
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| 14:39.03 | alkisg | What's your chroot's /etc/fstab? |
| 14:39.30 | petn-randall | JordiGH: bind mounts are also ok for chroot. |
| 14:40.14 | JordiGH | alkisg: So, uh, the chroot fstab points to a UUID which I think may be wrong. The comment says /dev/sda1 |
| 14:40.18 | JordiGH | I imaged this from my old laptop. |
| 14:40.53 | alkisg | JordiGH: it's best to fix it before updating grub |
| 14:41.00 | JordiGH | How do I determine the right UUID? |
| 14:41.08 | alkisg | sudo lslkb --fs |
| 14:41.12 | alkisg | sudo blkid |
| 14:41.55 | JordiGH | okok let me see... |
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| 14:44.30 | JordiGH | Hm, the uuid seems to be the same. |
| 14:44.33 | JordiGH | I guess that's because I imaged the disk? |
| 14:45.10 | alkisg | If you dd'ed the whole disk, then grub should be ok too |
| 14:45.18 | alkisg | And uuids would be the same, yes |
| 14:45.37 | JordiGH | No, I dd'ed the individual partitions. |
| 14:45.44 | JordiGH | Because the old disk was smaller than the new one. |
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| 14:45.55 | alkisg | OK,but you still need to resize them |
| 14:46.13 | JordiGH | I already ran resize2fs on both the imaged /boot and root partitions. |
| 14:46.20 | alkisg | OK |
| 14:46.34 | JordiGH | Still says grub-probe is looking for /dev/sda1 |
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| 14:46.41 | alkisg | I mean, if you first dd'ed the whole disk, then resized, grub would work without touching anything |
| 14:47.09 | JordiGH | Well, I wasn't sure about that. The partition that needed to be resized was LVM inside LUKS. |
| 14:47.19 | JordiGH | So I imaged via the LVM mappers. |
| 14:47.23 | alkisg | OK |
| 14:47.30 | alkisg | I don't know about LVM |
| 14:47.32 | JordiGH | I first partitioned the new drive with d-i |
| 14:47.47 | JordiGH | (debian-installer) |
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| 14:48.16 | JordiGH | /dev/sda1 right now is my live USB where I'm trying to perform this from. |
| 14:48.36 | alkisg | And did you chroot before running dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 14:48.37 | JordiGH | I wonder if grub is getting confused and thinking from some information in the chroot that /dev/sda1 is where stuff should go. |
| 14:48.48 | JordiGH | Yes, I chrooted before dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 14:49.06 | JordiGH | Think I can just run grub-install /dev/nvme0n1 from inside the chroot? |
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| 14:49.20 | alkisg | so, for d in proc sys dev dev/pts boot/efi; do mount --bind /$d /mnt/$d; done; chroot /mnt dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 14:49.59 | JordiGH | Wait, boot/efi? |
| 14:50.01 | squigzy | Does Debian 9 come with a notification daemon by default? I installed a basic system with no DE, then installed X, i3, and dunst. However, dunst is complaining about another notification daemon running |
| 14:50.02 | JordiGH | is that also a virtual fs? |
| 14:50.08 | alkisg | No, it's a real fs |
| 14:50.17 | squigzy | I've removed `notification-daemon` as well |
| 14:51.00 | JordiGH | alkisg: Sooo.... from the host live USB system, there is no boot/efi |
| 14:51.40 | JordiGH | So I assumed it's the first partition-looking thingie in /dev/nvme0n1p1 |
| 14:51.49 | JordiGH | It's a 500 meg vfat |
| 14:51.52 | JordiGH | Currently empty |
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| 14:53.41 | alkisg | JordiGH: pastebin your chroot's /etc/fstab then, and the output of lsblk --fs, so that we tell you |
| 14:53.58 | alkisg | Empty? It shouldn't be empty |
| 14:54.02 | alkisg | Did you dd that one? |
| 14:54.18 | alkisg | Note that in UEFI, there's no boot code in "MBR" |
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| 14:54.29 | alkisg | So if you dd'ed all the partitions, grub should still work fine |
| 14:54.41 | alkisg | Maybe you just forgot to dd the first partition? |
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| 14:55.35 | JordiGH | alkisg: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0380104a |
| 14:56.06 | JordiGH | I shouldn't have imaged /dev/nvme0n1p1 |
| 14:56.14 | JordiGH | Maybe d-i did something? |
| 14:56.25 | JordiGH | Did I make this drive forever unbootable? :-) |
| 14:56.55 | JordiGH | The source drive didn't have three partitions, only two: a boot partition and the encrypted root partition. |
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| 14:57.01 | jelly | FOREVER |
| 14:57.25 | JordiGH | The destination drive, after d-i did whatever it did to it, had those three partitions, with an empty 500 vfat partition on /dev/nvmen1p1 |
| 14:57.46 | BanHammor | so what does that /boot partition have? |
| 14:57.56 | JordiGH | Oh, now it has something. |
| 14:58.14 | JordiGH | EFI/debian/grubx64.efi |
| 14:58.18 | JordiGH | Maybe grub-install worked? |
| 14:58.34 | rdz | hey all. On a Jessie host, I noticed that unattended-upgrades is not running. Then i found that /etc/cron.daily/apt is missing. How can i fix the missing file? |
| 14:58.42 | JordiGH | Shall I try rebooting again? |
| 14:58.52 | alkisg | JordiGH: do you have /chroot/boot/efi? Does it contain directories etc? |
| 14:59.02 | JordiGH | alkisg: It does now, after I ran grub-install |
| 14:59.08 | JordiGH | Instead of dpkg-reconfigure |
| 14:59.16 | alkisg | JordiGH: no I mean the boot partition |
| 14:59.20 | alkisg | Umount the efi partition and check |
| 14:59.33 | alkisg | umount /chroot/boot/efi; ls /chroot/boot/efi |
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| 14:59.52 | jelly | rdz: which package does that path belong to? |
| 15:00.00 | JordiGH | Says it's busssssy |
| 15:00.02 | jelly | judd: file etc/cron.daily/apt --release jessie |
| 15:00.06 | judd | Search for etc/cron.daily/apt in jessie/amd64: apt: etc/cron.daily/apt |
| 15:00.11 | JordiGH | Oh, I see why, moment. |
| 15:00.14 | rdz | jelly, it's part of the "apt" package |
| 15:00.20 | jelly | dpkg, tell rdz about confmiss |
| 15:00.56 | rdz | jelly, wonderfull!! thanks a lot.. it recreated it |
| 15:01.13 | rdz | and i learned today that conf files are treated separately |
| 15:01.35 | JordiGH | alkisg: Uhhh, if I unmount /chroot/boot/efi it's an empty directory. |
| 15:01.47 | alkisg | JordiGH: and do you have /boot/EFI? |
| 15:01.53 | alkisg | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.01 | JordiGH | No. |
| 15:02.11 | alkisg | Maybe your old installation was not an uefi installation then? |
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| 15:02.20 | JordiGH | My old installation probably was not. |
| 15:02.30 | alkisg | OK, now things start to make sense |
| 15:02.35 | alkisg | Reboot and see if grub-install worked |
| 15:02.39 | JordiGH | The drive I imaged from was called /dev/sda, not /dev/nvme0n1 |
| 15:02.52 | JordiGH | Okay then! |
| 15:02.56 | alkisg | The drive lettering doesn't matter, but it would have a separate efi partition |
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| 15:03.10 | BanHammor | that just means it was SCSI or SATA, rather than SSD |
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| 15:03.31 | JordiGH | Yay, boots! |
| 15:03.39 | BanHammor | <JordiGH>: The source drive didn't have three partitions, only two: a boot partition and the encrypted root partition. |
| 15:03.57 | JordiGH | Well, boots grub. |
| 15:04.02 | alkisg | Hehe |
| 15:04.06 | alkisg | And nothing more? |
| 15:04.13 | JordiGH | Linux is up. |
| 15:04.18 | JordiGH | lvscan is looking for my drives. |
| 15:04.19 | JordiGH | Can't find anything. |
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| 15:05.24 | BanHammor | that seems like you need to rewrite your UUIDs |
| 15:05.38 | alkisg | He says he has the same uuids though... |
| 15:05.59 | JordiGH | I'm not sure I rewrote all the UUIDs. |
| 15:06.13 | JordiGH | Wouldn't there be some UUIDs in /boot? |
| 15:06.46 | alkisg | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.00 | JordiGH | I'm not sure they all were. |
| 15:08.34 | alkisg | Try pressing e in grub,and modifying root=XXX to root=/dev/mapper/chloe--vg-root |
| 15:08.40 | alkisg | Then f10 to boot that |
| 15:09.00 | JordiGH | Ah, let's see. |
| 15:09.22 | alkisg | Hmm although maybe I should stop talking now as I never use lvm; I'll defer to others... |
| 15:09.34 | jelly | what's lvscan? |
| 15:09.49 | JordiGH | jelly: I think that's what llvm uses to look for stuff? |
| 15:09.57 | JordiGH | I don't get a prompt to decrypt the ssd, though. |
| 15:10.12 | JordiGH | alkisg: It already points to /dev/mapper/chloe--vg-root |
| 15:10.34 | alkisg | Maybe lvm constructs that from real devices, and those devices have different uuids |
| 15:10.40 | alkisg | Sorry, don't know lvm to assume any better |
| 15:10.45 | jelly | if your PV is inside luks, until it's opened lvm won't find anything |
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| 15:11.21 | JordiGH | Yeah, I wonder why I'm not getting the decryption prompt. |
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| 15:13.39 | JordiGH | search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0135701f-5168-4bac-9740-23b10db418cb |
| 15:13.43 | JordiGH | That's the line in grub. |
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| 15:15.05 | JordiGH | Hm, failed to load some firmware? i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_101? |
| 15:15.21 | JordiGH | Some graphics thing, hmmmm... |
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| 15:21.34 | JordiGH | Annoying how each time I boot into the live system I gotta reconfigure apt and install cryptsetup and lvm2. |
| 15:22.09 | virus | well it is a live system |
| 15:22.21 | virus | may want to consider a system install on USB istead of live |
| 15:22.21 | JordiGH | Yeah, but it's a USB. It could be written to! |
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| 15:22.32 | petn-randall | Gee ... if there was a way to make an installation permanent. |
| 15:22.43 | virus | I think you need to install on USB |
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| 15:23.09 | JordiGH | petn-randall: That's what i'm trying to do! |
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| 15:23.21 | JordiGH | Anyway, that's not my current problem right now, just a minor annoyance. |
| 15:23.21 | virus | I manage to do it, by installing on USB, but has to be legacy as I was never able to do it UEFI |
| 15:23.38 | JordiGH | My current problem is why is grub or linux or someone not trying to decrypt the hard drive. |
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| 15:24.03 | Tenkawa | uggh I wish I knew efi better |
| 15:24.52 | virus | not sure if it work UEFI since this seems to require an entry on the computer it gets installed on |
| 15:25.00 | virus | where legacy can be moved around |
| 15:25.10 | JordiGH | Are you guys talking about my annoyance or my problem? |
| 15:25.35 | Tenkawa | JordiGH: no my own |
| 15:25.45 | virus | Im just going by experience here lol and petn-randall, like I said, have 2 usbs, one with installer and boot to install on second usb |
| 15:25.46 | JordiGH | lol |
| 15:25.49 | Tenkawa | trying to boot up a broke uefi |
| 15:25.52 | Tenkawa | \ |
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| 15:26.21 | virus | yea somehow there has to be an entry on the boot sector or somewhere for UEFI to work |
| 15:26.34 | Tenkawa | cant bypass it to get to the bios because of a video goofyness either |
| 15:26.51 | Tenkawa | virus: the efi shell sees the usb device |
| 15:27.03 | Tenkawa | i just dont know the syntax t o load it all up |
| 15:27.29 | Tenkawa | it sees the 2 partitions and stuff |
| 15:27.45 | Tenkawa | bbiaf,,, need to run for a few though |
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| 15:30.24 | brokencycle | Hi folks! I want to install a new XPS15, but it locks up everytime before I can finish the installation. I'm trying "legacy boot" already. |
| 15:30.28 | brokencycle | Any ideas? |
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| 15:40.32 | albttx | I need to install `growfs` on xenial, but it's not find with apt-get ? sources needed ? deprecated ? |
| 15:40.52 | albttx | it's in `ufsutils` |
| 15:40.54 | alkisg | albttx: xenial? this is #debian... |
| 15:41.20 | albttx | sorry, moving to #ubuntu |
| 15:41.24 | alkisg | :) |
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| 15:42.00 | albttx | but problem is the same on a debian btw :) |
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| 15:43.30 | alkisg | albttx: I don't see any growfs command in debian (or ubuntu) |
| 15:43.37 | alkisg | Do you mean growisofs or something? |
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| 15:44.28 | alkisg | Maybe this? manpages.debian.org/growfs.ufs |
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| 15:44.59 | alkisg | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ufsutils => in wheezy and sid only |
| 15:45.15 | alkisg | That would mean Ubuntu 12.04 or so |
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| 15:45.35 | alkisg | 10.04, maybe |
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| 15:49.17 | albttx | Yes it's what i need |
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| 15:49.50 | albttx | i'll try |
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| 16:11.58 | squigz | So I'm trying to install a notification daemon, dunst. I'm on a new installation of Debian 9, with no DE installed (just i3, a window manager) I've removed `notification-daemon` but dunst is still complaining that there's a notification daemon running. Am I missing another package or something? |
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| 16:15.55 | JordiGH | So who's in charge of finding encrypted partitions during boot? grub? linux? |
| 16:16.11 | JordiGH | If it's not being found, I must have messed up a UUID somewhere, right? |
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| 16:16.22 | ani_ | i need help with reportbug |
| 16:16.37 | PerfDave | JordiGH: Is /etc/crypttab useful? |
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| 16:17.17 | JordiGH | PerfDave: But /etc is already in my encrypted drive... |
| 16:17.23 | JordiGH | Hmmm... does grub use that? |
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| 16:18.14 | PerfDave | Doesn't it get stuck in the initramfs? |
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| 16:20.05 | JordiGH | Ah. |
| 16:20.10 | JordiGH | It's saying sda5_crypt |
| 16:20.19 | JordiGH | That's from the old drive I imaged this from. |
| 16:20.33 | JordiGH | I don't have sda5 anymore on the new drive I imaged to. |
| 16:20.37 | JordiGH | Should this be called something else? |
| 16:20.53 | JordiGH | I'm not sure if the name matters. Pretty sure the blkid is correct. |
| 16:20.56 | JordiGH | er, the UUID |
| 16:20.57 | isutoshi | Using UUID is preferrable |
| 16:21.10 | isutoshi | (imho) |
| 16:22.25 | JordiGH | Right, it says `sda5_crypt UUID=$THE_UUID none luks` |
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| 16:24.30 | JackK | Everytime I set up a debian based system with LUKS I struggle, but eventually get it. This is something that isn't well-documented but helps me: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot containing: CRYPTROOT=target=sda2_crypt,source=/dev/disk/by-uuid/uuid-goes-here |
| 16:24.43 | JackK | https://www.oxygenimpaired.com/ubuntu-with-grub2-luks-encrypted-lvm-root-hidden-usb-keyfile |
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| 16:24.54 | JackK | I might have a few more links bookmarked. I'll check. |
| 16:24.55 | PerfDave | JackK: I thought that got written by update-initramfs out of /etc/crypttab |
| 16:25.10 | JackK | Yeah, maybe you're right |
| 16:25.20 | JackK | I try about everything and eventually it works.. lol |
| 16:25.37 | virus | yea but as a developer, not for Debian keeping the logs uptodate is a whole fulltime job lol |
| 16:26.20 | JordiGH | Hm, "I: update-initramfs is disabled (live system is running without media mounted on /lib/live/mount/medium) |
| 16:26.22 | JordiGH | " |
| 16:27.07 | JackK | JordiGH: How are you accessing it? chroot from live media? |
| 16:27.12 | JordiGH | Yeah. |
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| 16:30.36 | Tenkawa | figured out what was going on with my uefi |
| 16:30.47 | Tenkawa | it was a gpt problem |
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| 16:31.38 | Tenkawa | did some mapping testing and noticed the partition labelling didnt look right |
| 16:32.31 | JackK | I've never seen that. Did you build the jail correctly? (from /mnt or wherever luks container root is mounted) mount -t proc proc proc/; mount -t sysfs sys sys/; mount -o bind /dev dev/ then chroot? |
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| 16:33.35 | JackK | That's what I use and I can usually update-initramfs, update-grub, etc. |
| 16:33.45 | JackK | with boot mounted too |
| 16:35.02 | RoyK | anyone that can suggest a good, easy-to-manage email/groupware system like zimbra which isn't zimbra? |
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| 16:36.16 | Tenkawa | oops |
| 16:36.26 | Tenkawa | JackK: that wasnt directed at me was it? |
| 16:36.31 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: I think that's a mutually exclusive specification, even without the zimbra part. |
| 16:36.49 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: Roundcube is OK for mail and is extensible. |
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| 16:37.04 | JackK | @ JordiGH: |
| 16:37.09 | Tenkawa | ahhh ok |
| 16:37.11 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: Even that requires coding for customization. |
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| 16:37.20 | Tenkawa | thought so.. just making sure |
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| 16:38.16 | RoyK | jhutchins_wk: I've only looked briefly at roundcube - zimbra is starting to get on my nerves |
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| 16:38.40 | PerfDave | Roundcube is just a mail client, not a groupware system |
| 16:38.50 | JordiGH | JackK: Looks like update-initramfs is a symlink to live-update-initramfs, and that is what tries to not do anything because I guess it detects it's in a live system? |
| 16:38.58 | JordiGH | Also, jail, hah, this ain't BSD, bud. |
| 16:39.09 | RoyK | PerfDave: ok - so setup something like cyrus in the back? |
| 16:39.46 | RoyK | I'd guess roundcube may have a few more features than squirrelmail |
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| 16:40.21 | PerfDave | Yeah, depends what you want out of a "system like zimbra". User registration, password resets etc. would need cobbling onto a roundcube + cyrus setup. |
| 16:40.30 | PerfDave | Also depends whether you want calendaring and so on too. |
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| 16:42.05 | RoyK | perhaps I'll stick to zimbra, then, for the time being, even if it's a PITA at times |
| 16:42.21 | PerfDave | Nextcloud seems to do calendaring and fileshare but not email. |
| 16:42.48 | RoyK | if NC could do email as well as the rest, I'd move |
| 16:42.55 | RoyK | I'm using NC for a lot of stuff |
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| 16:44.13 | JackK | JordiGH: I think chroot jail is correct for linux too :) .. it doesn't sound like you've chrooted into the system, otherwise it wouldn't detect the livecd's live-update-initramfs |
| 16:44.20 | PerfDave | *nods* Well, we run Nextcloud and Dovecot off the same LDAP server, at least |
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| 16:45.23 | JackK | JordiGH: Try this: https://mzanfardino.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/repairing-broken-arch-linux/ |
| 16:46.33 | jhutchins_wk | PerfDave: There's some groupware system that's built around roundcube... |
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| 16:47.29 | JackK | Adjust it for your setup, obviously. But cryptsetup luksOpen device container; mount /dev/mapper/container /mnt; cd /mnt; mount -t proc proc proc/; mount -t sysfs sys sys/; mount -o bind /dev dev/; mount /dev/whatever boot; chroot /mnt |
| 16:47.57 | JackK | Then you should be able to execute commands from within the other environment |
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| 16:52.51 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: Roundcube is promoted as groupware, but getting the extra features means diving into the PHP and the composer system. |
| 16:53.45 | PerfDave | jhutchins_wk: Ooh wasn't aware of that |
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| 16:54.41 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: There's also Horde, which I ditched for Squirrelmail years ago. |
| 16:55.00 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: Squirrelmail was OK, but it's not much maintained any more and is falling out of distributions. |
| 16:55.36 | RoyK | jhutchins_wk: I know - last update in 2012 |
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| 16:58.28 | freitag772 | Hi, in order for flock to be used in cron, the path to the cron.lock file must be unique for each cron job? |
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| 17:02.07 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: I think the project I was thinking of was mailcow: https://mailcow.email/ |
| 17:02.26 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: Appears to be built in docker. |
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| 17:20.30 | SpeakerToMeat | Hi all |
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| 17:22.08 | SpeakerToMeat | Question, I just upgraded from Jessie to stretch, and somewhere along the longs process, I saw something about links being made from 4.14 kernel and initrd to vmlinuz/initrd.img and 4.9 to vmlinuz.old etc but those links are not there in /boot now, and I'd like to configure my refind to automatically boot the "latest" kernel and have an "older" kernel submenu... is there any dpkg-reconfigure or script I can |
| 17:22.10 | SpeakerToMeat | run to have those symlinks/copies actually be made? (and updated on new kernel package installs) ? |
| 17:23.01 | greycat | Stretch has kernel 4.9. If you have a 4.14 then you got it from backports or from outside of Debian. |
| 17:23.08 | SpeakerToMeat | Otherwise, I have to manually enter vmlinuz and initerd in refind for every update and it's a pita |
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| 17:23.18 | SpeakerToMeat | greycat: Correct |
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| 17:24.17 | greycat | !kernel handbook |
| 17:24.18 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
| 17:24.19 | SpeakerToMeat | greycat: What I'm wondering is abotu that system I saw a fleeting glimpse of that I think was doign symlink or copy of the kernel and initrd files to base /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd.img but the links are not there and I wonder if there's any way to use/activate this if it is something some module/postints/configure/etc offers |
| 17:24.50 | alkisg | SpeakerToMeat: cat /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 17:25.03 | alkisg | And it has a link to its man page there |
| 17:25.58 | SpeakerToMeat | alkisg: thanks |
| 17:26.05 | alkisg | np |
| 17:26.18 | SpeakerToMeat | alkisg: Marvelous, this sems to be it |
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| 17:27.53 | alkisg | SpeakerToMeat: manpage: manpages.debian.org/kernel-img.conf |
| 17:28.39 | SpeakerToMeat | alkisg: Yeah, the man is not on my system, the config file is there but no man, and dpkg shows no ownership so I guess it's not workign because the package is nto there... I'll check the online manpage |
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| 17:29.34 | alkisg | Maybe it's becoming completely deprecated, I haven't looked into it for ages |
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| 17:30.12 | jhutchins_wk | SpeakerToMeat: I think those links might be in /, not in /boot. |
| 17:30.18 | SpeakerToMeat | alkisg: Yeah, I wonder if the system was moved elsewhere, I do not have neither kernel.common or kernel-.package which packages.debian.org says provide at least sample configs |
| 17:30.38 | SpeakerToMeat | jhutchins_wk: ... hmm you're right |
| 17:31.02 | alkisg | It's configurable, / or /boot |
| 17:31.05 | SpeakerToMeat | Oh well, same partition, and refind should be able to see them, thanks |
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| 17:34.43 | SpeakerToMeat | Well, used those links, time to reboot, brb |
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| 17:38.19 | jhutchins_wk | The man page for kernel-img.conf for jessie doesn't have any options that match what's in the file on stretch - which doesn't seem to be assoicated with any package that dpkg knows about. apt-file doesn't find it either. |
| 17:38.28 | jhutchins_wk | Could be generated by some process. |
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| 17:41.27 | jhutchins_wk | It's in the squeeze Admin Handbook: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/squeeze/sect.kernel-installation.html |
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| 17:44.30 | alkisg | jhutchins_wk: it's generated by linux-image...posinst |
| 17:44.46 | alkisg | `grep -r kernel-img /var/lib/dpkg/info` etc etc |
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| 17:45.58 | alkisg | SpeakerToMeat: link_in_boot=yes puts them in /boot |
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| 17:47.20 | SpeakerToMeat | alkisg: Nod... thanks |
| 17:47.30 | alkisg | np |
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| 17:50.34 | SpeakerToMeat | Now I only need to make my system recognize a black magic itnensity pro (old) as a pulse audio input/output card |
| 17:50.41 | SpeakerToMeat | brb nonehteless, rebooting. |
| 17:51.16 | JordiGH | I wish I understood how does grub look for the encrypted partition. |
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| 17:56.09 | RoyK | probably the most annoying about ubuntu is if you accidentially visit #ubuntu-server and say something like "fuck", there'll be someone saying "please watch your language", and 10 minutes later you're out |
| 17:56.28 | JordiGH | Please watch your language. |
| 17:56.41 | RoyK | slaps JordiGH with a small stick |
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| 18:02.09 | SpeakerToMeat | RoyK: That doesn't happen here because debian is not used for servers |
| 18:02.28 | SpeakerToMeat | RoyK: And if you go into #centos and say fuck you're chastised because it's not an offitial repo package |
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| 18:02.47 | SpeakerToMeat | And I've failed to make pulse recognize my black magic intensity |
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| 18:04.33 | JordiGH | Everything says I should re-run update-initramfs |
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| 18:04.44 | JordiGH | But that's really symlinked to live-update-initramfs |
| 18:04.57 | JordiGH | And that refuses to run, because I'm running from a live system. |
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| 18:05.50 | JordiGH | Reading this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/857028/how-can-i-install-a-boot-for-my-encrypted-root-partition |
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| 18:06.19 | vook | Any ideas as to how I could forward/tunnel a local privileged port to other server (on the same port) without ssh'ing as root. The user is a sudoer. For example, 'ssh user@remoteserver -R 80:localserver:80' fails because 80 is privileged on the remote end. |
| 18:07.02 | PerfDave | vook: You could forward non-privileged ports then use iptables to redirect to them from 80? :) |
| 18:07.43 | vook | good point, thats a possibility |
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| 18:08.28 | PerfDave | Or, y'know, you could SSH as root and use things in authorized_keys to lock the connection down to portforwards only |
| 18:09.15 | vook | we have remote puppet Gods preventing that kind of thing from taking place. |
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| 18:09.29 | vook | iptables should work though, I think. Thanks. |
| 18:09.37 | PerfDave | No probs |
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| 18:11.03 | jhutchins_wk | vook: You'd probably havev to do it as root@remoteserver, which is probably locked down |
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| 18:14.50 | vook | I got it by sending it to 8080 then creating an output rule: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -d 127.0.0.1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination :8080 |
| 18:16.47 | RoyK | SpeakerToMeat: "That doesn't happen here because debian is not used for servers" <-- erm - what are you smoking? |
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| 18:17.18 | greycat | I just assumed it was some sort of failed joke. |
| 18:17.49 | n4dir | vook: sure beyond me, i got an old script which has this ssh command: ssh -N -f -L7657:127.0.0.1:7657 ; and i assume one could set the ports as one wishes. Guess it doesn't help much (like said: the subject is beyond me) |
| 18:18.17 | greycat | a -L tunnel listens on the client; a -R tunnel listens on the server |
| 18:19.03 | n4dir | aha. |
| 18:20.09 | PerfDave | Also, only root can bind on ports <1024 |
| 18:20.24 | jack3 | Hello. debian 8 . I have a process that when I kill it, after a few seconds it comes right back. Any ideas of what to try? |
| 18:20.40 | SpeakerToMeat | jack3: What's the parent before you kill it? |
| 18:20.48 | greycat | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/413807/is-there-a-way-for-non-root-processes-to-bind-to-privileged-ports-on-linux#414258 |
| 18:20.56 | jack3 | SpeakerToMeat: how do I find that? |
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| 18:23.14 | greycat | jack3: ps -fp PID |
| 18:23.25 | jack3 | greycat: tnx.. brb |
| 18:24.11 | jack3 | SpeakerToMeat: ok. I have the number. now what? |
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| 18:27.06 | greycat | Find out what that process IS. Decide whether it is supposed to be there. Decide whether it is supposed to be respawning your murdered child process. |
| 18:27.22 | jack3 | I've no idea what it is |
| 18:27.38 | jack3 | we have a user that we are trying to clean up, so he is using less resources |
| 18:27.40 | jack3 | and found it |
| 18:27.48 | jack3 | we all want to kill it, and can't. heheeheh |
| 18:28.01 | jack3 | well.. we can.. but it comes right back |
| 18:28.09 | greycat | And you can't tell us what the name of the parent OR the child is, because it's a friggin' trade secret? |
| 18:28.18 | jack3 | oh.. you wanted that? |
| 18:28.20 | jack3 | sure.. brb |
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| 18:28.49 | jack3 | from ps auz |grep username : /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server |
| 18:28.52 | jack3 | that? |
| 18:28.54 | jack3 | aux* |
| 18:29.11 | jack3 | this seems to be the parent, this time: sshd: drogon@notty |
| 18:29.13 | greycat | He's using sftp to connect to the system. |
| 18:29.20 | jack3 | not at the moment |
| 18:29.24 | greycat | Wanna bet. |
| 18:29.31 | jack3 | I just asked him, and he checked |
| 18:30.02 | greycat | There are many different SFTP clients. Windows clients, Linux clients, Unix clients. Linux's sshfs is an example. |
| 18:30.23 | jack3 | and.. ? |
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| 18:30.59 | RoyK | SpeakerToMeat: do you really mean "debian is not used for servers"? |
| 18:31.22 | greycat | So if you see /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server as a child of "sshd: user@notty" then they're using an SFTP client to connect. |
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| 18:31.41 | jack3 | greycat: I'll tell him to look again. brb |
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| 18:32.09 | greycat | root 1100 18586 0 14:30 ? Ss 0:00 \_ sshd: wooledg [priv] |
| 18:32.09 | greycat | wooledg 1106 1100 0 14:30 ? S 0:00 \_ sshd: wooledg@notty |
| 18:32.09 | greycat | wooledg 1107 1106 0 14:30 ? Ss 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server |
| 18:32.27 | kalipso | hey, im setting up mailman, webinterface and admin mails working fine, problem is that the membership list stays empty even if i add members manual using mass subscription in the admin interface |
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| 18:33.04 | jack3 | greycat: while I wait for him to respond : what's that notty part ? |
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| 18:33.29 | greycat | Don't know, don't care. |
| 18:33.35 | jack3 | ok |
| 18:34.12 | greycat | The three lines I pasted are from the tail end of "ps f -ef" on my Debian workstation after I did "sftp localhost" in another window. |
| 18:34.19 | mispp | hey all. a question about nftables - on debian wiki it says it is recommendable to run it with kernel 4.10+ and debian ships 4.9. in the same wiki it is encouraged to start using nftables. this seems contradictory. |
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| 18:37.21 | hyperlumic | mispp: 4.14 is available in stretch-backports. |
| 18:37.46 | bites | you don't need kernel 4.10, only if you want stateful object suport i guess. |
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| 18:38.07 | jack3 | greycat: ok. now, he must be away... not responding. :( |
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| 18:39.53 | Ironhand | hi, I just got a notice from a hosting provider where I'm running a Debian based VM regarding rpcbind reflection attacks (I run rpcbind for NFS services over a private network). is there any up-to-date info on how to securely configure rpcbind on Debian Stretch? |
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| 18:40.49 | Ironhand | I realize that like most Debian provided configs for services it might be secure enough by default, but there doesn't appear to be much info available |
| 18:45.33 | JordiGH | Sigh, I really don't know how to rebuild the initramfs from a live system. |
| 18:46.27 | somiaj | JordiGH: for a debian stock kernel? |
| 18:46.47 | JordiGH | Yeah. |
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| 18:47.00 | JordiGH | Well, the chrooted linux is a bpo. |
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| 18:47.16 | JordiGH | The live linux is 4.9.0, which I think is current stable. |
| 18:47.28 | JordiGH | 4.14.0 in the chroot |
| 18:47.31 | somiaj | JordiGH: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-foo seems to rebuild the initramfs, you'll have to be chrooted into your enviroment though |
| 18:47.54 | somiaj | you could also man update-initranfs if you don't want to use the package triggers to build it |
| 18:48.00 | JordiGH | somiaj: That calls update-initramfs which is symlinked to live-update-initramfs which does nothing because it realises it's a live system. |
| 18:48.22 | somiaj | JordiGH: ahh |
| 18:48.40 | JordiGH | I can manually call mkinitramfs but I think I'm messing that up somehow. |
| 18:49.03 | somiaj | what command did you type? |
| 18:49.31 | JordiGH | mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-4.14.0-0.bp.3-am64 |
| 18:49.44 | JordiGH | From the chroot |
| 18:49.56 | somiaj | according to what I found on google, you are missing stating whta kernel |
| 18:50.18 | somiaj | so I think you need mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-4.14.0-0.bp.3-am64 4.14.0-0.bp.3-amd64 (shoudln't that be a bpo?) |
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| 18:50.49 | somiaj | you need to state the version, otehrwise it defaults to running kernel |
| 18:50.59 | JordiGH | vmlinuz-4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64? |
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| 18:51.25 | JordiGH | Ah, okay, that looks better. |
| 18:51.28 | somiaj | I think you just state the version, 4.14.0-0.bpo.3-amd64, but this is what I"m getting from the manpage and google, haven't tried it |
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| 18:52.10 | JordiGH | Yeah, okay, that looks better. |
| 18:52.22 | JordiGH | Now that tells me that something is wrong with my cryptsetup and swap partition. |
| 18:52.43 | JordiGH | Which makes a bit more sense, but I'm not sure what to do about it. |
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| 18:53.32 | JordiGH | cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for luks-$UUID |
| 18:53.39 | JordiGH | Where it actually spells out the UUID. |
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| 18:54.16 | Sia- | hi, where else should report a bug about kurdish keyboard in XKB? |
| 18:55.25 | somiaj | JordiGH: what does the line look like? have you double checked the UUID is correct (blkid) |
| 18:55.49 | bites | JordiGH: so make sure the UUID in /etc/crypttab is correct. did you move the system around? |
| 18:55.54 | BanHammor | Sia-, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=xkb |
| 18:56.21 | JordiGH | bites: Yeah, this is a disk imaged from my old laptop. |
| 18:56.30 | Sia- | BanHammor is already their, but without any answer!! is the community dead already? |
| 18:56.40 | BanHammor | probably no. |
| 18:56.43 | Sia- | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105947 |
| 18:57.01 | bites | JordiGH: then the new disk has a different uuid. |
| 18:57.04 | Sia- | eben in xorg no reaction :) |
| 18:57.06 | JordiGH | The line currently looks like this: nvme0n1p3_crypt UUID=$THE_UUID none luks |
| 18:57.17 | JordiGH | bites: I'm not sure what UUID to stick in there. |
| 18:57.34 | somiaj | Sia-: sometimes they prefer bugreports via a matainer vs just some user, sometimes it is best to report the bug to debian's bts (use reportbug and check to make sure debian doens't have a bug) and then the debian matainer forwards it. You may want to put that link/mention that report. |
| 18:57.52 | somiaj | Sia-: dont know how much that will help, but if it is a bug with the debian package, you can report it to debian. |
| 18:58.03 | bites | JordiGH: the one your luks partition is on. check with lsblk -o +UUID |
| 18:58.10 | Sia- | somiaj thanx |
| 18:58.51 | BanHammor | Sia-, there's a comment there on how to contribute to XKB |
| 18:59.15 | Sia- | BanHammor where?` |
| 18:59.38 | BanHammor | on your Freedesktop bug |
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| 19:01.01 | JordiGH | bites: Do you see a problem? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9d4234c6 |
| 19:01.53 | JordiGH | Looks like the right uuid to me. |
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| 19:02.02 | JordiGH | Is the problem that the name doesn't match? |
| 19:02.04 | JordiGH | Hmmm... |
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| 19:03.30 | bites | /dev/nvme0n1p3: UUID="3c5ee115-f921-45cb-a139-c8f656086983" |
| 19:03.39 | bites | ist that the uuid in your crypttab? |
| 19:03.55 | JordiGH | Yes it ist. |
| 19:04.02 | bites | no it's not |
| 19:04.39 | JordiGH | Last line! |
| 19:04.55 | bites | nvme0n1p3_crypt UUID=e115-f921-45cb-a139-c8f656086983 none luks |
| 19:05.01 | bites | those are different. |
| 19:05.23 | JordiGH | aw shit |
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| 19:07.07 | JordiGH | Ah, not mkinitrams ran cleanly! |
| 19:07.15 | JordiGH | *now |
| 19:07.18 | JordiGH | Let's reboot! |
| 19:07.39 | RoyK | JordiGH: <ubuntushite>Watch your language</ubuntushite> |
| 19:08.40 | JordiGH | Aw, crap, I think I accidentally deleted the grub config. :-/ |
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| 19:09.12 | RoyK | is quite good at watching his language to keep it clean of shit people think is fucking crap unless that fucking cunt comes across |
| 19:10.35 | mispp | hyperlumic: i dont have really experience with backports. if it is not in official repos, i dont use it on a server... but anyhow, if i do try stretch backports, any problems to be expected? |
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| 19:11.26 | RoyK | mispp: I've used backports for years - no significant issues so far |
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| 19:12.52 | mispp | RoyK: also kernel? |
| 19:13.00 | RoyK | yes |
| 19:13.12 | mispp | if no issues so far, i might jump on board |
| 19:13.32 | mispp | how are updates e.g. 8 to 9 handled with backports? |
| 19:14.38 | somiaj | mispp: the biggest problem with backports is no offical security support. You will have to wait for a new backport to get any securtiy fixes. Depending on what you get from backports this isn't a big deal, but something to be aware of. |
| 19:15.16 | somiaj | mispp: backport versions are all strictly less than their version in the next release, the ~bpo (the ~ means subtract/or less than version), so all backport packges will smothly upgrade to the next debian version because of this. |
| 19:15.44 | mispp | great! thanks! |
| 19:15.48 | JordiGH | How do I regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg? |
| 19:15.55 | somiaj | JordiGH: update-grub |
| 19:16.15 | mispp | i'll look into this 4.9 with nft... maybe try to avoid this since i want to do as little maintenance as possible |
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| 19:17.54 | JordiGH | Let's see if *that* worked |
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| 19:19.02 | RoyK | mispp: are you on jessie_ |
| 19:19.04 | RoyK | ? |
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| 19:19.18 | JordiGH | WIN!! |
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| 19:19.24 | JordiGH | NEW LAPTOP BOOTED!! |
| 19:19.37 | mispp | RoyK: nope, 9.3 |
| 19:19.43 | RoyK | ok |
| 19:19.51 | JordiGH | #debian, if you could see the movie of my life, right now all of your names would be scrolling by in the closing credits. |
| 19:20.23 | bites | don't jump! |
| 19:21.00 | JordiGH | I'd like to thank somiaj, SerajewelKS, greycat, JackK, alkisg and anyone else I may have forgotten. Thanks! My new laptop boots with a disk imaged from the old laptop! |
| 19:21.02 | rsarson | hi! i use checkinstall to make my own deb files and it keeps include "/var/cache/fontconfig/*" files. i normally just use the --exclude option, but i would like to understand why this is happening in the first place. |
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| 19:21.29 | JordiGH | Now some bot thinks I'm a spammer. :-( |
| 19:21.36 | JordiGH | I'm just happy it's booting now. |
| 19:22.28 | rsarson | for context, it happens when i make scid (the chess program) and vice (the commodore emulator) debs |
| 19:23.09 | rsarson | if i don't exclude the fontconfig files in one of them, i get conflicts when i try to install |
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| 19:25.05 | bites | checkinstall tracks any file that is installed in the make install step. so if make install of the software you want to package puts something in /var/cache/fontconfig/ checkinstall will add it to the package. |
| 19:25.56 | bites | you could take a look at the install target in the Makefile |
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| 19:29.57 | rsarson | bites: thanks for replying. all i see is "-lfontconfig" in the Makefile... a library, i'm assuming. it looks look fs-cache is run and then the files that are created in /var/cache/fontconfig are then included in the package. |
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| 19:30.42 | rsarson | fc-cahce* |
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| 19:31.51 | bites | checkinstall should only be able to include things in the package if the makefile correctly implements $DESTDIR. so if some command in the install targets creates files on your system in a hardcoded path those will be on your system but not in the package. |
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| 19:34.32 | de-facto | how to tell "checkinstall" how its supposed to use "make install PREFIX=/usr" and specific targets? |
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| 19:41.24 | rsarson | bites: they are created on my system AND included in the package. as i mentioned, --exclude=/var/cache/fontconfig works, ie, the files do not end up in the package, but the files are still created on my system during the checkinstall process. i guess my question is, why is fc-cache being run? |
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| 19:44.02 | bites | de-facto: you can pass install commands to checkinstall like checkinstall make install <whatever you need> |
| 19:44.26 | bites | rsarson: can't tell without seeing the makefile, but i don't believe it's anything but the makefile. |
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| 19:46.02 | rsarson | the specific one i am testing is from the svn version of vice, if you're interested. anyway, i'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over this, i was just wondering about fontconfig, in general, as i've had other issues with it in the past. |
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| 19:59.43 | MrKeuner | hi, I add a line * hard nproc 65000 in /etc/security/limits.conf but new bash shells doesn;t seem to pick the change up |
| 19:59.49 | MrKeuner | What am I missing |
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| 20:02.43 | greycat | You're aware that limits.conf is only used by PAM when a new session is created, not just a new shell, right? |
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| 20:07.05 | MrKeuner | greycat, not really but reboot doesn't seem to help either. I'll try again. |
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| 20:14.15 | MrKeuner | yes, reboot doesn't help either. Where can I see limit.conf related errors? |
| 20:14.32 | greycat | Probably in /var/log/auth.log right after you login. |
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| 20:14.54 | greycat | At least that's where pam_unix writes its "session opened for ..." non-errors. |
| 20:15.04 | bites | are you trying to set it higher than /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max and do you check with ulimit -a ? |
| 20:15.41 | MrKeuner | bites, no that's set to 65535, I am trying 65000 |
| 20:15.47 | MrKeuner | Yes I check with ulimit -u |
| 20:16.11 | MrKeuner | I get 64246 |
| 20:16.21 | bites | are you checking as root user? * does not apply to root. |
| 20:16.49 | MrKeuner | bites, no, an NIS non-root user. |
| 20:16.59 | MrKeuner | user is not local on the system, could that be it? |
| 20:17.14 | greycat | I doubt that would matter, but I can't say for sure. |
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| 20:22.56 | JordiGH | I'm still in awe this worked. |
| 20:23.02 | JordiGH | I feel like a fucking heart surgeon here. |
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| 21:49.17 | lilkuz2005 | hey guys, im having some issues with setting up an ir remote in debian 9, trying to change the button configuration, im using a microsoft ehome receiver with a logitech harmony 650 remote, the arrow keys work but the OK or Back buttons are not working |
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| 22:24.37 | fizzbuzz | How do I install a new desktop? |
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| 22:26.40 | bug | fizzbuzz, the easiest way is to re-run tasksel |
| 22:26.42 | awal1 | fizzbuzz, apt-get update && apt-get install your-desktop-of-choice |
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| 22:27.07 | awal1 | kde, gnome, mate, cinnamon, lxqt, lxde, xfce |
| 22:27.15 | awal1 | and a bunch of window managers |
| 22:27.38 | fizzbuzz | Sweet, thanks |
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| 22:27.47 | bug | recommends mate |
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| 22:28.11 | awal1 | xfce |
| 22:28.49 | squigz | i3 best wm |
| 22:29.30 | awal1 | openbox/fvwm |
| 22:29.33 | awal1 | :P |
| 22:29.42 | awal1 | !editor war |
| 22:29.42 | dpkg | i heard editor war is when people start talking all sorts of emotional bullshit while trying to prove superiority of the editor of their choice |
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| 22:40.52 | awal1 | trying to force airodump-ng to not log so I do "airodump-ng -c X --bssid X -w psk wlan0 airodump-ng -c 11 --bssid 04:BF:6D:58:DC:E0 -w psk wlan0" for testing concerns but it won't work; airodump still spamming my user home. whta am I missing here? |
| 22:41.13 | awal1 | excuse the confusion |
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| 22:41.59 | awal1 | trying to force airodump-ng to not log so I do for example "airodump-ng -c 11 --bssid 04:BF:6D:58:DC:E0 -w psk wlan0" for testing concerns but it won't work; airodump still spamming my user home. whta am I missing here? |
| 22:43.11 | awal1 | ( channel and bssid are fictive ) |
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| 22:59.13 | awal1 | corecting my previous question: for testing reasons I want airodump to not spam my home dir, instead send all logs to dev null. so I do "airodump-ng -c X --bssid X -w psk interface > /dev/null 2>&1" but airodump still ignoring log redirection. What I am missing here? |
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| 23:05.23 | johnkeates | how do I make gnome recognise another directory as a container for mountpoints? I'm mounting my ZFS stuff on /ZFSVolumes/<name> and instead of changing that to /media/something/zfs-vol-name I'd like to tell gnome to consider /ZFSVolumes/* as a bunch of mountpoints |
| 23:05.32 | johnkeates | (running stretch) |
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| 23:06.54 | pinkos | hi, is there a way to calibrate the display in debian mate? |
| 23:07.02 | pinkos | or how i can fiddle with the colors manuall |
| 23:07.05 | pinkos | manually? |
| 23:07.16 | pinkos | colors look washed out on my x200 |
| 23:08.18 | johnkeates | From the interwebs: Look for the Device ID line of your monitor. If this is e.g. xrandr-Lenovo Group Limited, start calibration with the command: gcm-calibrate --device "xrandr-Lenovo Group Limited" |
| 23:08.32 | johnkeates | lprof is another option |
| 23:08.42 | johnkeates | most stuff just works and delivers an icc to colord |
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| 23:09.21 | johnkeates | this is for arch but probable works accross any colord install: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ICC_profiles#Manually check the manpages too (debian has them) |
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| 23:10.43 | awal1 | pinkos, anything wrong with your display colors or what exactly? |
| 23:10.54 | pinkos | awal1 blacks dont really look black |
| 23:10.59 | pinkos | more like washed out gray |
| 23:11.40 | awal1 | pinkos, nvm, so |
| 23:11.54 | bug | lower brightness, raise contrast? |
| 23:12.18 | awal1 | I thought you may be referring to screen color temperature |
| 23:12.43 | pinkos | that too awal1 |
| 23:12.50 | pinkos | id like all the colors to be as accurate as possible |
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| 23:13.35 | awal1 | for screen color temperature I use 'sct' utility (for gui you have 'redshift' |
| 23:13.58 | awal1 | "sct 4500" for example from termial |
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| 23:20.01 | Lyberta | hi, I'm trying to create persistent live usb drive with encrypted root, I used deboostrap to install the base system but now I'm getting "mount: mounting /dev/mapper/encrypted_root on /root failed: No such device", help? |
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| 23:21.33 | Lyberta | btw I've skipped makedev in the debian manual page because I thought that udev is supposed to do this, do I need to invoke MAKEDEV? what static devices do I need on a live usb? |
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