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| 00:02.01 | bug | good work, Trel |
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| 00:05.31 | Trel | Is there somewhere to report that said bug is still affecting Debian? |
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| 00:23.36 | jmsx | s7r: I think cockpit has that functionality, I've been hearing good things about it lately- http://cockpit-project.org/ |
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| 00:25.44 | s7r | if i move the raid array from one server to another after it has been configured, will it be accessible? |
| 00:25.45 | LeandroLuiz | webmin has that functionality as well |
| 00:26.05 | jmsx | certainly |
| 00:26.15 | s7r | yeah the first result that i saw in google was to use webmin ... thought there is something cleaner like gparted or something |
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| 00:42.30 | annadane | you can use libreoffice to electronically sign (as in, like a hand signature) a pdf, right? |
| 00:42.37 | annadane | (6, from backports) |
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| 01:08.08 | annadane | every single internet search result is "sign with certificate" which is not what i want |
| 01:08.15 | annadane | i just want free-form lines |
| 01:08.20 | annadane | i could try krita i guess |
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| 01:13.31 | annadane | yeah, krita has a text tool; now i just have to figure out how to switch between multiple pages |
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| 01:20.18 | kyle__ | Any suggestions for no audio if pamix shows activity but nothing over headphones or builtin speaker on a laptop? |
| 01:22.13 | kyle__ | It's the generic intel on-board audio from an atom chipset: 00:0e.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor N4200/N3350/E3900 Series Audio Cluster (rev 0b) |
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| 01:35.06 | kyle__ | sighs |
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| 01:37.20 | kyle__ | And it was the mixer applet on gdm3 that was somehow overriding it all |
| 01:37.21 | kyle__ | :/ |
| 01:37.37 | kyle__ | Moving from XDM was a mistake |
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| 01:42.10 | karlpinc | annadane: I always scan paper signatures and use pdftk to frob a final pdf. |
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| 01:43.25 | kyle__ | frob? |
| 01:46.54 | karlpinc | kyle__: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=frob&rdfrom=Frob#Usage_notes |
| 01:47.39 | kyle__ | You know, I nearly failed out of school because of mudds, but I never knew or heard that erm. |
| 01:47.55 | kyle__ | s/erm\./term./ |
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| 01:53.06 | annadane | karlpinc, unfortunately i possess no scanner |
| 01:54.19 | annadane | interestingly, libreoffice writer refuses to open PDF's; it defaults to libreoffice draw |
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| 02:01.29 | bug | you can photograph it if you get the lighting just right, in macro mode. not as good but works in a pinch. |
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| 02:04.13 | annadane | is there really nothing that just offers free-form lines |
| 02:04.16 | annadane | i'm sure krita can do it |
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| 02:08.18 | bug | well, i'd just use gimp with my graphics tablet, but it would be awkward with a mouse, |
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| 02:11.47 | michael2 | annadane: Ive done what you're describing in GIMP recently |
| 02:11.56 | annadane | neato. |
| 02:12.45 | michael2 | the only problem - is once you open the pdf in gimp, I think gimp explodes each pdf page into a separate document/file |
| 02:13.14 | annadane | reeeeee |
| 02:13.21 | michael2 | so if the pdf is many pages, you will have to stitch it back together after you've done your manipulations |
| 02:13.33 | annadane | i'm sure it's not hard |
| 02:13.56 | michael2 | Ive got notes somewhere on how to do it - yeah there is a program for it |
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| 02:15.02 | michael2 | I think I used xsane |
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| 02:15.43 | annadane | thanks :) |
| 02:16.50 | DammitJim | I am trying to remove a pv from a vg |
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| 02:17.10 | DammitJim | but I keep getting warnings about the device for pv... not found or rejected |
| 02:17.22 | DammitJim | anyone with experience with LVM? |
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| 02:19.05 | michael2 | annadane: oh wait - sorry dont think xsane is what you want - it creates multipage pdf's from scanned images. I would try looking into exporting all the pages back into a single pdf file via gimp itself |
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| 03:10.16 | karlpinc | annadane: I've also cut-and-pasted a signature in with gimp. (The phone photo option |
| 03:10.50 | karlpinc | annadane: Use pdftk, and change only the page(s) you're interested in and then cut them back into a copy of the original pdf. |
| 03:11.37 | annadane | thanks |
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| 03:13.14 | karlpinc | annadane: There's other ways but pdftk is super handy. |
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| 03:33.56 | password4 | is there an easy way to change my wifi ip from dhcp to static via terminal? |
| 03:34.22 | password4 | i just want to change the ip , the connection already exists |
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| 03:38.40 | password4 | i don't even know where the settings is stored for my wifi |
| 03:38.55 | karlpinc | password4: You can always use "ip address" to change the ip of any interface. |
| 03:39.05 | karlpinc | !tell password4 about interfaces |
| 03:39.42 | password4 | but then i need to redo the whole setup if i set it in there? |
| 03:40.07 | karlpinc | password4: You can do ifdown and ifup on the interface. |
| 03:40.28 | password4 | and ifdown/up will help me how? |
| 03:40.35 | karlpinc | password4: Otherwise, use "ip address" directly. Messing with interfaces is easier. |
| 03:41.03 | karlpinc | password4: It will bring the interface down, releasing it's ip, and then bring it back up with the static ip you assign. |
| 03:41.08 | password4 | can i x forward that interface? |
| 03:41.56 | karlpinc | password4: You forward to a host. You can forward over any interface, assuming there's no firewall, restrictions on the destination host, etc. |
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| 03:42.32 | password4 | how do i set the ip over ssh using ip adress? |
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| 03:43.05 | karlpinc | password4: You don't need to "forward" X, it runs over a network. (You can forward through ssh for security, or establish a vpn or other sorts of secure network connectivity too.) |
| 03:43.09 | password4 | or where is my current wifi settings stored? |
| 03:43.18 | password4 | ffs |
| 03:43.32 | password4 | what is 'ip adress'? |
| 03:43.48 | password4 | a commandline utility? |
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| 03:43.54 | karlpinc | password4: All of your network setting are stored in /etc/network/interfaces, unless you're using network manager. |
| 03:44.00 | karlpinc | password4: Yes. |
| 03:44.08 | password4 | well I'm running an manager |
| 03:44.17 | password4 | as my settings for wifi is not in there |
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| 05:24.34 | Hooloovo0 | ph33r, I've done it numerous times |
| 05:26.27 | ph33r | I seem to make the kernel fine. The OS reloads with it no problem, but I have no modules with lsmod. Noticed that when my wifi didn't work. Tried looking for documentation on that, but didn't find anything that worked. |
| 05:28.18 | alkisg | ph33r: does this directory exist? ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r) |
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| 05:34.01 | ph33r | Yes, it exists, but only contains a symlink to /usr/src/linux-source-4.15 |
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| 05:49.53 | linuxNoob | im building a lab and im planning to use an old debian distro with with both SysV and grub v1. which version must i go for? |
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| 05:53.35 | ph33r | Is there a reason you are going for something that old? |
| 05:53.53 | well_laid_lawn | there's none still supported with grub1 afaik |
| 05:54.01 | Logg | I think Debian squeeze fits those requirements, not sure. |
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| 05:54.51 | ph33r | If you are trying to set up a pen-testing with a vulnerable OS I would suggest DVL or DVWA. |
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| 05:56.18 | linuxNoob | i didnt ask for suggestions ph33r. ithink my question was pretty specific |
| 05:56.31 | linuxNoob | thanks Logg i will check that out |
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| 05:57.11 | Logg | I _am_ curious of your motivation linuxNoob |
| 05:57.52 | ph33r | If I give you a bone I don't want to know if it tastes good. Go find what you're looking for yourself then. |
| 05:58.44 | linuxNoob | ph33r you answered off topic. dont be rude please, if you didnt know you could have just keep quiet. thank you. |
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| 05:59.54 | ph33r | You said lab, not what kind of lab. You were too vague to expect any specific answers. |
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| 06:09.33 | karlpinc | ph33r: Looked at https://kernel-handbook.debian.net/ ? |
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| 06:10.34 | ph33r | I've seen parts of it, but haven't found anything specific to rebuilding modules in there yet. You? |
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| 06:12.51 | karlpinc | ph33r: I would think that section 4.5 is relevant, because I'd expect that you'd get all the stuff that comes with Debian. Including modules. Dunno. Maybe 4.6 also. |
| 06:12.51 | Hooloovo0 | oh, sorry, I haven't been following this closely, I don't have much experience with debian kernel packages |
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| 06:16.19 | ph33r | I didn't see anything in 4.5 or 4.6, but 4.7 seems to be what is needed. Thank you karlpinc! |
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| 07:24.40 | b00tcat | good day everyone - I'm building a custom kernel + modules (due to specific hardware) and would like to package it up in a deb file to reduce setup time in other boards. What would I have to package? /boot/Image and /lib/modules? or would that be a bad practice? |
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| 07:28.44 | jelly | b00tcat: just build with "make deb-pkg" |
| 07:29.32 | babilen | b00tcat: You could use Debian's packaging as a base: https://kernel-handbook.debian.net/ch-common-tasks.html â 4.5 |
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| 07:30.20 | jelly | make deb-pkg works on x86, no idea about other platforms |
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| 07:32.24 | b00tcat | I'm on ARM64, but I"ll try it out - I didn't know that option was available (deb-pkg) |
| 07:32.38 | b00tcat | thanks jelly babilen |
| 07:34.05 | b00tcat | will this package only the kernel? or also the non-vanilla modules that I compile? |
| 07:34.14 | b00tcat | only contain* |
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| 07:41.54 | disposable2 | I'd like to put a cluster of nfs servers as gateways to my iscsi storage appliance. will that lower IOPS or just increase latency? (provided the NFS servers have overkill CPUs and NICs) |
| 07:42.08 | jelly | b00tcat: it's supposed to package whatever's in the tree |
| 07:42.20 | jelly | and enabled to be built |
| 07:42.45 | b00tcat | ok perfect - it's building right now |
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| 07:43.49 | annadane | where does hexchat keep its configuration, so i can add autojoin channels in preferably a text file? |
| 07:44.33 | jelly | ~/.config/hexchat/servlist* something |
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| 07:45.19 | jelly | annadane: don't edit while it's running |
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| 07:53.06 | michael2 | hi all, I am having problems connecting to wifi. message from `nmcli' is that the wifi network could not be found. output of /var/log/syslog looks like trying to connect using a wifi profile that i |
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| 07:53.20 | michael2 | have deleted |
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| 07:56.31 | michael2 | also, when I run `ip a' it shows my wifi interface is down - but `nmcli dev wifi' is printing out a list of networks. I didn't think `nmcli' could function at all when there is no network interface, right? |
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| 08:10.50 | dracc | While compiling larger projects (rpcs3, dolphin-emu) I get "virtual memory exhausted: cannot allocate memory". I have 32GB RAM. Is there any way to circumvent this or do I need to add a swap partition? |
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| 08:11.52 | tdn | I see these errors in dmesg: "ERROR Transfer event for disabled endpoint or incorrect stream ring" Any reason for concern? Or are they safe to ignore? I have an external USB disk connected but it does seem to work fine. |
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| 08:12.58 | petn-randall | tdn: What are the messages around it? Can you paste it all to https://paste.debian.net? |
| 08:13.11 | petn-randall | dracc: Is this a 32bit installation? |
| 08:13.47 | dracc | petn-randall, Nope, x86_64, 16 thread CPU. |
| 08:14.29 | tdn | petn-randall, here is some of it: http://paste.yt/p6854.html |
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| 08:15.19 | b00tcat | dracc: what's your ulimit on virtual memory? `ulimit -v` |
| 08:15.21 | themill | dracc: what's the output of "dpkg --print-architecture" |
| 08:15.33 | tdn | petn-randall, http://paste.yt/p6855.html |
| 08:15.39 | dracc | b00tcat, "unlimited". :o |
| 08:15.57 | dracc | themill, "amd64" |
| 08:16.04 | themill | ok, not that then |
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| 08:16.27 | dracc | themill, What was your trail of thought? :) |
| 08:17.00 | themill | 32bit limits on memory sizes are problematic for the linker, esp where C++ is concerned |
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| 08:17.44 | dracc | themill, I see. :) |
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| 08:19.56 | themill | dracc: you could have a look at the compilation options the debian packages are using. The buildds compile them in plenty less memory than that |
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| 08:22.21 | dracc | themill, I can use "make -j8" instead of "make -j" in order to avoid the error, but I want to run full speed. :( But I will look into debian compilation options. |
| 08:24.54 | themill | yeah, well, asking for a boatload more things running at the same time won't help |
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| 08:37.55 | dracc | > Be me. > Have 16 thread cpu and 32GB RAM. > only ever use 8 |
| 08:37.56 | dracc | :( |
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| 08:39.46 | petn-randall | dracc: By more RAM. ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 08:39.51 | petn-randall | *buy |
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| 08:46.47 | dracc | petn-randall, But... 32GB more RAM is crazy expensive! :( |
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| 08:48.50 | dracc | petn-randall, Other than that, it's probably a valid solution! |
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| 09:45.14 | blaztek | sobkas: even Grammerly doesn't figure that one out |
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| 09:49.30 | tdn | petn-randall, does that make any sense? |
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| 09:52.50 | _abc_ | brb please answer if you can |
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| 10:13.22 | password2 | how much of a hassle would it be to migrate my debian to a virtualbox? |
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| 10:17.58 | xVim | Hi. I currently have Debian stable installed, but want some more up-to-date packages that are not available as backports (e.g. Python 3.6). I don't want to use testing for security reasons. sid seems a bit risky and has not the best security support as well. Therefore I thought about having two Debian systems (stable, sid) on my PC with a shared home partition, and use sid only when I need up-to-date |
| 10:18.00 | xVim | programs. Any thoughts on that? |
| 10:19.44 | PerfDave | xVim: A sid chroot |
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| 10:20.35 | colo-work | or a systemd nspawn container running sid |
| 10:20.52 | colo-work | (I use this to have Debian available on other distros. works well.) |
| 10:22.26 | xVim | PerfDave, colo-work: Thanks for the suggestions, I am looking up those terms (I am unfamiliar with them) and try to understand your suggestions. |
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| 10:23.30 | blaztek | xVim: in the late 90's I got the debian source files from testing and made the deb for stable...it seemed to work well but a lot of effort |
| 10:23.54 | petn-randall | xVim: Note that sid and testing both come without security support. If there's a fix, it'll get uploaded by the maintainer. However, testing is by default 5 days behind sid. |
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| 10:25.47 | xVim | petn-randall: I am aware of that, thank you. But I think I have to use sid if I want up-to-date-packages like python3.6 (I don't want to compile that myself, and no backport exists) |
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| 10:37.05 | velix | libsfcgal1 wants to pull hundrets of libs, which I don't need (and which aren't needed for my task). Looking into dependencies, "libopenscenegraph" is the bad guy. Looking into deb-buildfile, there's a patch to make libopenscenegraph optional if available. So do I just need to remove the patch and rebuild the package to get rid of > 250 MB of useless dependencies? |
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| 10:40.51 | velix | Oh my... some packages need to be compiled against java :D |
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| 10:47.23 | michael2 | hi all, I am having problems connecting to wifi. getting error message (53) from `nmcli' - the wifi network could not be found. output of /var/log/syslog looks like network manager is trying to connect using a wifi profile that I have deleted |
| 10:47.31 | michael2 | also, when I run `ip a' it shows my wifi interface is down - but `nmcli dev wifi' is printing out a list of networks. I didn't think `nmcli' could function at all when there is no network interface, right? |
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| 10:58.13 | Kelsar_ | michael2: ip a down state just means not ready for data transfers |
| 10:58.22 | Kelsar_ | or not configured |
| 10:58.33 | michael2 | oh, |
| 10:58.39 | Kelsar_ | lowlevel wlan functions will ofc work |
| 10:58.51 | Kelsar_ | you could try nmtui to activate your wlan |
| 10:58.54 | michael2 | ofc? |
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| 10:59.02 | Kelsar_ | ofcourse |
| 11:00.13 | michael2 | thanks, so basically the network interface device is really just like a device that can be used on demand? |
| 11:00.58 | michael2 | it could be dead to the world - then a program calls it into action ? |
| 11:01.32 | michael2 | unlike say a daemon - which you need to initialise etc? |
| 11:02.55 | michael2 | trying nmtui now... |
| 11:03.25 | michael2 | doesn't work either |
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| 11:05.00 | velix | Is there a channel to talk to debian package gurus? |
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| 11:15.07 | BCMM | velix: there is a #debian-mentors over on OFTC |
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| 11:15.47 | BCMM | velix: (also #packaging, if you're not planning on getting your package into the Debian archive) |
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| 11:18.45 | velix | BCMM: thanks :D |
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| 11:21.40 | velix | BCMM: #packaging is very dead |
| 11:21.46 | velix | or in OFTC? |
| 11:21.51 | BCMM | velix: yes, on OFTC |
| 11:21.55 | velix | Ok ;) |
| 11:22.01 | BCMM | (i.e. on a different irc network, no on freenode) |
| 11:22.04 | velix | yeah |
| 11:22.39 | BCMM | velix: most debian channels are there |
| 11:22.44 | velix | oh okay. |
| 11:23.11 | BCMM | https://wiki.debian.org/IRC |
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| 11:23.30 | BCMM | i think it's just this one and -offtopic here on freenode |
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| 11:24.34 | michael2 | im trying low-level cli commands to connect to wifi. I can get connected to access point. then when I run `dhclient ' I can see in /var/log/syslog DHCPDISCOVERER is spinning it wheels trying a an IP address, then it fails with message [no DHCP OFFERS RECEIVED] |
| 11:24.45 | velix | BCMM: Ah, thanks. I'll keep this in mind for future chats :D |
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| 11:25.33 | BCMM | this one is typically a lot more lively than than #debian on oftc, because freenode is popular and stuff |
| 11:25.41 | BCMM | but the more specialist channels are only on oftc |
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| 11:26.29 | velix | BCMM: IRC is still popular? :D |
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| 11:27.00 | velix | When I started IRC, it was full of pr0n and mp3s, hehe |
| 11:28.51 | velix | BCMM: oh dear, #packaging on OFTC also isn't very active :( |
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| 11:29.12 | dracc | michael2, Are you able to use DHCP with another device on that same network? |
| 11:29.24 | BCMM | velix: i suggest that you ask your question and then be prepared to wait, possibly for hours |
| 11:29.27 | JyZyXEL | #debian-mentors for ftp.debian.org packages |
| 11:29.43 | JyZyXEL | a lot more active |
| 11:29.44 | BCMM | velix: i don't know about that channel in particular, but in general that's the way to use small IRC channels |
| 11:30.01 | michael2 | dracc: yes, im using this 2nd device to IRC with - over the same wifi network |
| 11:30.08 | velix | BCMM: Most of the time, I'm fixing problems while waiting, hehe |
| 11:30.09 | BCMM | velix: are you trying to build a debian package to distribute yourself, or trying to get a package in to debian? |
| 11:30.36 | velix | BCMM: neither. I'm modifying a buster package to get rid of its java components. |
| 11:30.45 | BCMM | just to use locally? |
| 11:30.49 | velix | BCMM: yes |
| 11:30.55 | velix | maybe blog about it |
| 11:30.59 | dracc | michael2, and the dhclient is running on the correct NIC? |
| 11:31.53 | michael2 | dracc: damn - no... is there a command to stop dhclient? |
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| 11:33.10 | michael2 | trying shutting down the interface... |
| 11:34.21 | BCMM | (re: the popularity of IRC, Freenode has roughly double in size over the past decade, to around 100,000 active users) |
| 11:34.58 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: you mean irc.debian.org ? |
| 11:35.07 | abrotman | oh misread |
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| 11:35.23 | abrotman | but, probably worth noting it's on OFTC |
| 11:35.35 | JyZyXEL | ah, yes of course |
| 11:38.14 | jelly | velix: you probably don't need gurus for that particular question |
| 11:38.19 | jelly | !package rebuild |
| 11:38.19 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
| 11:39.47 | velix | jelly: backporting isn't a problem. My problem is removing the java dependenvies. |
| 11:39.57 | jelly | velix: how does it fail? |
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| 11:40.09 | velix | jelly: do you want to talk here or in #packaging? |
| 11:40.21 | velix | jelly: let me collect all the stuff |
| 11:40.21 | jelly | here is fine |
| 11:40.27 | velix | ok ... gimme some seconds. |
| 11:42.32 | velix | jelly: let me start from scratch to get the pure error. That's my modified debian/rules: https://bpaste.net/show/4c81be33bb2d |
| 11:42.44 | dracc | michael2, I usually use ^C to stop dhclient. |
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| 11:42.57 | dracc | But that is when ran from a terminal. |
| 11:44.24 | velix | jelly: better version, "###" means removed by me: https://bpaste.net/show/a577b79d636e |
| 11:44.30 | michael2 | dracc: I ran from terminal, `dhclient' then it just returned to shell prompt - ill try kill it out of the process tree |
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| 11:47.14 | michael2 | I killed dhclient, then re-started it on the correct NIC its still suffering the same problem |
| 11:48.11 | michael2 | I also stopped the NetworkManager daemon - as I thought that might cause conflicts with my terminal commands |
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| 11:49.51 | dracc | michael2, Oh, I'm sorry 'bout that. I'm fresh out of ideas I guess. :( |
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| 11:50.23 | velix | jelly: I'm getting this error: https://bpaste.net/show/f1c5afc7263b |
| 11:50.29 | michael2 | dracc: np |
| 11:51.05 | velix | jelly: shall I try debuild -us -uc --d --source-option=--include-removal ? |
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| 11:51.23 | sn00bie | hi, |
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| 12:05.38 | michael2 | well, I rebooted and the wifi works fine. weird.. |
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| 12:24.18 | MACscr | if i allocate 100% of a drive to a single partition (sda1), should grub still install fine to the disk (sda)? |
| 12:24.38 | p0g0_ | yes |
| 12:25.19 | MACscr | ok. just trying to figure out why my preseed pxe install is failing on this server. super frustrating. already spent 5+ hours trying to get it all to work |
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| 12:31.55 | MACscr | this is what my partition layout looks like https://pastebin.com/raw/15m3sDNr |
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| 12:37.47 | ptizoom | hello... got a problemo with am-utils, and would like to generate an unstripped/-O0 debug-package... I am doing "... all:DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug all:DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=qa=+bug,+canary all:;cd /usr/src/am-utils;dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc ..." is there a better way? |
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| 12:41.08 | Zgrokl | hi, i have some serious issue with xorg it crash every 30min, how can i check the log ? where it is ? |
| 12:41.18 | Zgrokl | i'm not use to debian (arch user) |
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| 12:44.29 | sn00bie | check /var/log? |
| 12:45.06 | Zgrokl | sn00bie, you mean /var/log/Xorg.1.log ? |
| 12:45.30 | sn00bie | Zgrokl, or /var/log/Xorg.log |
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| 12:46.01 | sn00bie | i believe .1 is old log |
| 12:46.05 | Zgrokl | there is Xorg.0.log |
| 12:46.08 | Zgrokl | no Xorg.log |
| 12:46.13 | MACscr | are 1mb partitions still needed at the beginning of the disk when NOT using eufi? |
| 12:46.33 | Zgrokl | but i only see x start log, no crash log |
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| 12:46.50 | alkisg | sn00bie, Zgrokl, Xorg.vt-number.log, i.e. 0 for vt0, 1 for vt1 etc |
| 12:46.54 | MACscr | Zgrokl check your dmesg outptu as well |
| 12:47.03 | alkisg | And Xorg.?.log.old is the old one for the same vt |
| 12:47.20 | Zgrokl | alkisg, ooookay now it's clear |
| 12:47.55 | blaztek | MACscr: no |
| 12:48.07 | Zgrokl | alkisg, but debian screen it's on f7 so it's tty 7 no ? |
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| 12:48.19 | MACscr | alkisg 3 days later and im still not getting this pxe install to work. lol |
| 12:48.39 | alkisg | Zgrokl: well indeed it's not exactly vt number, it's "xorg vt serial start number" :) |
| 12:48.52 | alkisg | If you start 2 xorgs, one gets 0, the second 1, etc |
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| 12:49.08 | Zgrokl | 2 screen mean 2 xorgs or only 1 ? |
| 12:49.15 | alkisg | MACscr: which part is failing with pxe? |
| 12:49.26 | MACscr | alkisg grub install |
| 12:49.56 | alkisg | MACscr: are you trying to automate some installation over pxe, or just do the installation once? |
| 12:50.10 | alkisg | Zgrokl: if you mean 2 monitors, it's one xorg |
| 12:50.25 | MACscr | alkisg automate |
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| 12:50.52 | MACscr | though in this instance, im about to quit and jsut finish the install manually. not having any luck trying to overcome the grub issue from the installers busybox |
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| 12:51.41 | MACscr | this is the partitioning im working with https://www.screencast.com/t/bJ6D7zUl36l |
| 12:52.01 | alkisg | MACscr: I don't have much experience with preseeding; I prefer to maintain a template image, and automate its cloning/deployment, as it allows much more flexibility and it's easier to maintain |
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| 12:52.09 | MACscr | and the grub error https://www.screencast.com/t/d2CMo1mdJzF |
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| 12:52.55 | MACscr | nvm that last screenshot |
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| 12:53.07 | MACscr | i already overcame that one. |
| 12:53.21 | MACscr | the grub one is simple, just says it cant install grub to /dev/sda |
| 12:53.43 | alkisg | Because...? |
| 12:53.54 | alkisg | You didn't leave the 1mb gap after the mbr? |
| 12:54.18 | MACscr | i was told i didnt need that with legacy boot and that was only for uefi |
| 12:54.35 | alkisg | The gap is where grub gets installed. It's needed in MBR. It's not needed in UEFI. |
| 12:55.23 | MACscr | so is that gap needed when i create the paritions on the disk for raid or its needed when creating the partitions on the boot-root? |
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| 12:55.49 | alkisg | It's needed when you install to an MBR disk. / and /boot partitions don't matter at all. |
| 12:56.13 | alkisg | It's not a partition. It's a gap between the MBR and the first partition. |
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| 12:57.23 | MACscr | yes, but the question is "how do i get that gap?" |
| 12:57.44 | alkisg | Do you have a failed disk now? What's the output of sfdisk --dump? |
| 12:57.51 | alkisg | To see if you do have the gap or not |
| 12:57.58 | alkisg | If you do, no pointing in researching more about it |
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| 12:58.37 | alkisg | I.e. maybe partman does it automatically, and the point is moot |
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| 12:59.17 | MACscr | alkisg https://www.screencast.com/t/lbk3eXxr |
| 12:59.57 | MACscr | partman doesnt do anything like that because the mdadm array was created BEFORE the installer ran. I didnt really figure out how to handle creating the raid 10 with the preseed before it |
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| 13:01.24 | alkisg | MACscr: so, your sda doesn't have the gap and grub can't be installed there. I don't know preseeding so I can't help you in "how to automate the gap creation". parted and gparted do create it. |
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| 13:02.58 | MACscr | gparted and parted arent available in busybox during the pxe installer. i had to use sfdisk to do it |
| 13:03.46 | alkisg | Then manually leave a gap in sfdisk, don't use 1 as the start |
| 13:03.58 | alkisg | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Master_Boot_Record_.28MBR.29_specific_instructions => However a post-MBR gap of about 1 to 2 MiB is recommended to provide sufficient room for embedding GRUB's core.img |
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| 13:04.08 | alkisg | I think gparted leaves a 2 MiB gap |
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| 13:06.12 | jelly | 1MiB should be enough for everybody! |
| 13:06.22 | jolt | :D |
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| 13:30.10 | noodlepie | I've just had to remove loads of cruft from our communal Debian pc, its working again now, had a disk full error! |
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| 13:31.39 | noodlepie | Stuff like flightgear is just sooo big, thank heavens I'm not runing Gentoo on the machine, that'd take an age to build |
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| 13:37.20 | at0m | most of flightgear is scenery/airports/aircraft addons afaik, so pretty static.. probably just untar instead of build |
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| 13:39.39 | noodlepie | at0m, yeah, I've removed it now, it freed up quite a lot of space which I need to generally run the syste |
| 13:40.27 | noodlepie | Actually I have flightgear install on my Gentoo laptop (8 core i7 beast!). I've never noticed it building but it probably |
| 13:40.32 | noodlepie | takes a while! |
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| 14:15.49 | noodlepie | Should /tmp be mounted as a tmpfs? I have it on /dev/sda at the moment |
| 14:16.16 | colo-work | "it depends". do you have enough RAM that you're not using for anything else? |
| 14:16.37 | colo-work | (I prefer to have tmpfs mounted on /tmp, because I meet thiscondition) |
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| 14:21.05 | matt3o12 | What permissions are required to execute chmod 775 director/ ? |
| 14:21.34 | jolt | matt3o12: Owner or root? |
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| 14:22.00 | matt3o12 | Group owner |
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| 14:24.03 | matt3o12 | Or do I have to be the owner to change the permissions of a director? |
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| 14:24.40 | jolt | matt3o12: You have to be owner or root |
| 14:24.54 | maddawg2 | well that was damn quick... i cant believe how easy 3cx is to install and set up |
| 14:25.18 | matt3o12 | jolt: is there any other way to change the permissions as a group owner? |
| 14:25.38 | matt3o12 | Set it up that it will be possible (as root)? |
| 14:25.58 | MACscr | ok, getting a blinking cursor after install with preseed. im thinking maybe grub wasnt installed to right disk? I just have d-i grub-installer/bootdev string default |
| 14:26.25 | MACscr | im wondering if i should do something like: d-i grub-installer/bootdev string /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd |
| 14:27.11 | jolt | matt3o12: Not sure. But if you need more complex permissions, then use acl's instead |
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| 14:29.10 | matt3o12 | Maybe, it helps to know that I want ftp users to be able to use a shared directory. Currently it is not possible to remove files created by other users. By changing the permissions it works, but that only works as a root. |
| 14:29.47 | jolt | matt3o12: Then you should use ACL's and set the group acl with the right permissions directly |
| 14:30.06 | jolt | I haven't used it for much myself in a long time, so I can't give more pointes |
| 14:30.09 | jolt | pointers |
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| 14:42.40 | JordiGH | I want to publish some writing and have people comment on it. Is there some sort of easy thing I can do with Debian? I want to self-host. |
| 14:42.51 | JordiGH | Like, for collaborative book-editing. |
| 14:43.16 | abrotman | you mean like a wiki? or blog ? |
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| 14:43.32 | abrotman | or you mean like a collaboritive editor? |
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| 14:44.00 | LunaLovegood | Is there somewhere I can search which Debian package a file came from based on its md5 or sha1 sum? For a file from a package that's not installed on the current host, I mean. |
| 14:44.21 | LunaLovegood | Just searching for the checksum in Google didn't find anything. |
| 14:45.28 | JordiGH | abrotman: More like a blog. |
| 14:46.00 | JordiGH | Kind of like this: http://hgbook.red-bean.com/read/preface.html |
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| 14:47.06 | abrotman | sees no comments ? |
| 14:47.22 | abrotman | oh, I do |
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| 14:47.40 | abrotman | you want a collaborative editor I'd say .. or Google Docs |
| 14:48.11 | abrotman | whiteboard,gobby are the ones I know of |
| 14:48.12 | PerfDave | JordiGH: Wordpress? :) |
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| 14:48.38 | JordiGH | abrotman: No, not an editor, just a comment thing. |
| 14:48.53 | JordiGH | PerfDave: Is there some WP plugin to allow people to comment on each paragraph? |
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| 14:49.21 | abrotman | if you want it per paragraph, you'd probably want a collaborative editor, really |
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| 14:50.38 | JordiGH | I'd try to revive whatever Bryan O'Sullivan did here, but it was some kind of byzantine setup with XML and docbook and Java. |
| 14:50.43 | jak2020 | hi all how to know space available onmy Hard disk? (any partition not used)? |
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| 14:51.22 | abrotman | jak2020: fdisk -l |
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| 14:57.01 | jak2020 | abrotman thanks |
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| 15:05.00 | DammitJim | Is there a way to recover a volume group? |
| 15:05.17 | DammitJim | I was replacing a failing hard drive with a new one and there were errors during the pvmove |
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| 15:05.48 | DammitJim | then when trying to remove the old hard drive, the system started to complain that the LV needed to be repaired and can't remove the PV |
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| 15:09.04 | rendar | i must have something misconfigured in my deban buster, i try to compile some C code whcih uses pread() pwrite() writev() and readv() functions, and gcc says they are not defined |
| 15:09.12 | rendar | everything works on my raspberry |
| 15:09.16 | rendar | any clues? |
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| 15:15.16 | iwt3621 | rendar: apt install build-essential |
| 15:15.44 | rendar | build-essential is already the newest version (12.4). |
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| 15:16.39 | rendar | it's already there, iwt3621 |
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| 15:20.57 | rendar | anyone here? |
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| 15:22.05 | jelly | nope |
| 15:22.18 | nkuttler | rendar: testing support is in #debian-next on oftc |
| 15:22.38 | rendar | thanls |
| 15:22.41 | rendar | thanks* |
| 15:23.11 | MrSlaughter1775 | After reviewing htop, I noticed that "Web Content" is taking upwards of 100% of my CPU. I'm assuming that shouldn't be the case, correct? |
| 15:23.37 | RedSoxFan07 | MrSlaughter1775: Depends on the sites you're on. |
| 15:23.59 | jelly | MrSlaughter1775: if you have ad-laden or other heavy tabs open in firefox, it might be |
| 15:23.59 | RedSoxFan07 | Some sites have a lot of JavaScript and other stuff that takes up CPU cycles. |
| 15:24.02 | MrSlaughter1775 | Youtube. |
| 15:24.12 | MrSlaughter1775 | No other tabs open. |
| 15:24.23 | jelly | does it go away when you close yotube tabs? |
| 15:24.24 | RedSoxFan07 | MrSlaughter1775: What resolution are you playing the videos at? And what CPU and GPU do you have? |
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| 15:25.02 | MrSlaughter1775 | i7 and Nvidia 900 something i, I believe |
| 15:25.13 | MrSlaughter1775 | It is a solid laptop, and I'm not even playing on 1080p. |
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| 15:30.10 | MrSlaughter1775 | Perhaps I have to install some drivers for my GPU. |
| 15:30.56 | MrSlaughter1775 | I don't think it is using my dedicated one. This is my first install of Debian and I just got up a day or two ago. |
| 15:31.38 | greycat | start with "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" to see what GPU(s) it has |
| 15:32.13 | DammitJim | do you guys have any suggestions on how to re-create a volume group? The old one is broken and at this point, I rather just re-create it and restore the files from a backup |
| 15:32.30 | DammitJim | but I don't know what steps to follow knowing that the old VG/LV is still there |
| 15:32.33 | noodlepie | Debian is my favourite OS for lower end machines. Pre-built binary packages install faster than building them from source, in Gentoo. |
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| 15:34.54 | petemc | DammitJim: have you looked at vgcfgrestore ? |
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| 15:35.38 | DammitJim | yes and that broke it even more |
| 15:35.43 | DammitJim | (but it was probably user error) |
| 15:35.44 | MrSlaughter1775 | greycat, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 [8086:191b] (rev 06) |
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| 15:36.07 | DammitJim | petemc, I had all kinds of problems adding a new hard drive to replace a borderline bad one |
| 15:36.09 | MrSlaughter1775 | I'm assuming that is the weaker of my two graphics cards. |
| 15:36.25 | greycat | MrSlaughter1775: but you said it has an nvidia. Was there only one line of output from that lspci command, or two? |
| 15:36.46 | MrSlaughter1775 | One line of output. It has two cards in the laptop. One is dedicated. |
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| 15:37.17 | MrSlaughter1775 | The Nvidia Gefore GTX was used for heftier programs, at least back on Win10. |
| 15:37.26 | jelly | MrSlaughter1775: pastebin the output of "vainfo" and "glxinfo". Install vainfo and mesa-utils packages if needed. |
| 15:37.31 | greycat | But lspci isn't seeing this alleged nvidia card *at all*? |
| 15:38.27 | MrSlaughter1775 | greycat, Correct. |
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| 15:39.19 | MrSlaughter1775 | And it isn't "alleged", it is inside of my laptop. I manually configured which programs used which cards when I ran Win10. I have a big green sticker on the bottom right corner next to my intel core i7 sticker. |
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| 15:39.41 | greycat | MrSlaughter1775: this seems to be close to https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/MSI/GS40/stretch |
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| 15:41.03 | greycat | Hmm, the lspci output for that laptop has "3D controller" instead of "VGA compatible controller" |
| 15:41.07 | velix | jelly: No solution :( |
| 15:41.33 | greycat | MrSlaughter1775: how about "lspci -nn | grep NVIDIA" |
| 15:42.19 | jim | hi... googling for how to get pread() and pwerite(), the man page says unistd.h, including that, still not defined... what's missing? |
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| 15:43.08 | greycat | jim: well, it's in /usr/include/unistd.h on stretch |
| 15:43.13 | MrSlaughter1775 | greycat, 02:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] [10de:139b] (rev a2) |
| 15:43.27 | greycat | !optimus |
| 15:43.27 | dpkg | The Bumblebee project aims to provide support for the Nvidia Optimus GPU switching technology on Linux systems. GeForce 400M (4xxM) and later mobile GPU series are Optimus-enabled; if «lspci -nn | grep '\''[030[02]\]'» returns two lines, the laptop likely uses Optimus. Packaged for Debian <jessie> and <wheezy-backports>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://bumblebee-project.org/ #bumblebee on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:44.10 | jim | greycat, he says he's already including that |
| 15:44.17 | MrSlaughter1775 | So basically download Bumblebee |
| 15:44.18 | greycat | MrSlaughter1775: follow http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 15:44.24 | MrSlaughter1775 | Thank you |
| 15:44.30 | greycat | jim: stop being a proxy |
| 15:44.52 | MrSlaughter1775 | This can be quite tricky for a newbie. Luckily there is a good community to consult when issues arise. |
| 15:45.04 | MrSlaughter1775 | Gym time boys. I'll be lurking. |
| 15:45.08 | jim | ,find usr/include/unistd.h |
| 15:45.11 | judd | Search for usr/include/unistd.h in stretch/amd64: libc6-dev: usr/include/unistd.h |
| 15:45.16 | jelly | MrSlaughter1775: still the intel gpu should be able to do accelerated decoding on its own. |
| 15:45.22 | PerfDave | I used to use bumblebee to play Steam games on my dual-GPU laptop |
| 15:45.32 | jim | and, he says that package is already the latest |
| 15:45.47 | jelly | MrSlaughter1775: it's possible the intel gpu hw side is too new for debian 9 kernel |
| 15:45.51 | annadane | they're on buster... |
| 15:46.02 | annadane | we told them to go to #debian-next |
| 15:46.24 | rendar | there isn't anyone in debian-next |
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| 15:46.46 | annadane | it's still the right place to ask |
| 15:46.49 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 15:46.49 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:46.56 | annadane | and yeah, oftc, not freenode |
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| 15:47.01 | jelly | different irc server |
| 15:47.10 | BCMM | *network |
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| 15:47.21 | MrSlaughter1775 | Grr. |
| 15:47.29 | noodlepie | :) |
| 15:47.38 | MrSlaughter1775 | #struggles |
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| 15:58.27 | noodlepie | OK, my Debian machine is fine now. It ran out of disk space so I removed some games and viola, everything works again. |
| 15:59.11 | greycat | harpsichord, congratulations |
| 15:59.51 | annadane | bless you |
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| 16:20.55 | jak2020 | how to add a 2nd ip? to my linux box? |
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| 16:22.14 | haruspiiii | man ifconf |
| 16:22.39 | jak2020 | but permanently? |
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| 16:22.51 | nkuttler | man 5 interfaces? |
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| 16:24.14 | babilen | jak2020: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 16:24.44 | babilen | jak2020: Where does that IP come from? Where do you get traffic from? Do you have additional interfaces? |
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| 16:31.02 | jak2020 | babilen no aditional iface |
| 16:31.05 | jak2020 | in same |
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| 16:49.12 | jelly | jak2... eh |
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| 17:06.10 | galex-713 | Hi |
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| 17:06.25 | galex-713 | I, really wrongly, seemingly, did run some make uninstall as root |
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| 17:06.50 | galex-713 | now, it suppressed a bunch of directories with rm -rf like /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128,scalar,etc. |
| 17:07.10 | galex-713 | is there a way to run dpkg/apt so that it restores the files of each installed package? |
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| 17:08.09 | jelly | galex-713: you can ask dpkg which packages had stuff in deleted folders, eg. dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/hicolor |
| 17:08.14 | pelle | hi, when i install debian on my laptop, grub doesn't install properly on it. i can boot up the debian from the laptop when using grub installed on a separate usb disk. this is under BIOS/"legacy" mode... under UEFI the debian installer freezes after selected "Install" or "Graphical install". Anyone has any good ideas for workarounds or stuff? |
| 17:08.22 | jelly | galex-713: and then you can reinstall those packages |
| 17:09.02 | galex-713 | jelly: how can I reinstall those? |
| 17:09.16 | pelle | dpkg install --reinstall some-package |
| 17:09.16 | dpkg | pelle: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 17:09.20 | jelly | galex-713: apt reinstall ... would be one way |
| 17:09.38 | jelly | pelle: maybe you meant apt-get and not dpkg there. |
| 17:09.43 | galex-713 | thatâs 363 packages |
| 17:09.47 | pelle | @jelly yes, oops |
| 17:10.00 | pelle | @dpkg yea, quite big laptop. how come? |
| 17:10.07 | jelly | galex-713: or restore your OS from backups |
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| 17:10.19 | jelly | if you have any |
| 17:10.20 | galex-713 | jelly: just in case⦠would there be a way to reinstall *all* packages deleted files? of the whole system? would apt reinstall * work? |
| 17:10.24 | galex-713 | no I donât :( |
| 17:10.53 | jelly | galex-713: I have never had to do that, so no idea |
| 17:11.03 | pelle | maybe this???? apt install --reinstall $(dpkg -S /) |
| 17:11.11 | hypn0 | how many? |
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| 17:11.36 | jelly | dpkg -S output has to be processed to only get package names out, first |
| 17:11.36 | dpkg | There is no record of a output has to be processed to only get package names out, first package |
| 17:11.45 | galex-713 | jelly: apt reinstall doesnât seem to exist :/ |
| 17:11.56 | galex-713 | jelly: no, I get them in a comma-separated list |
| 17:12.01 | pelle | @galex-713 it's apt install --reinstall |
| 17:12.38 | jelly | galex-713: eh. I misrememeber. aptitude has a reinstall command. |
| 17:12.38 | galex-713 | ah ok |
| 17:12.42 | jelly | however |
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| 17:13.05 | jelly | you will lose information about which packages were installed automatically, that way |
| 17:13.06 | galex-713 | ok --reinstall is working |
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| 17:13.11 | galex-713 | what? |
| 17:13.16 | galex-713 | really? |
| 17:13.19 | pelle | @jelly: true |
| 17:13.28 | galex-713 | with --reinstall or aptitude reinstall? |
| 17:13.32 | jelly | both. |
| 17:13.34 | pelle | @galex-713: yes, because you'll set every package to be manually installed |
| 17:13.51 | galex-713 | isnât there a way to keep this information? |
| 17:14.03 | jelly | probably |
| 17:14.13 | galex-713 | a simple way? |
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| 17:15.20 | galex-713 | like something simpler than iterating on the output of apt show to grep Apt-Manual-Installed |
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| 17:16.22 | jelly | apt-mark might be helpful |
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| 17:17.14 | jelly | also, aptitude has a powerful search syntax that can limit to only manually installed or only automatically installed but I don't remember the details |
| 17:17.59 | galex-713 | oh thank you that is of great utility |
| 17:18.11 | galex-713 | so I saved the list of manually installed in a file |
| 17:18.14 | galex-713 | 83 |
| 17:18.19 | galex-713 | *packages |
| 17:18.51 | galex-713 | and I will apt-mark manual $(<manually.lst) afterward |
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| 17:20.55 | jelly | you want to restore the other bit, auto installed |
| 17:21.45 | jelly | because apt install --reinstall [lots of packages] is you asking apt explicitely to have them installed |
| 17:21.57 | drwarner | I'm sitting in front of an HP ProOne 400 G3. I couldn't get the Debian installers to work on it - even the non-free firmware variant. After Grub, the screen goes blank (although it seems like the system is still running.) I've tried various vga options in the grub cli to no avail, but the daily for Ubuntu's 1804 works fine. How do I best go about figuring our root cause and reporting it? |
| 17:22.17 | galex-713 | oops |
| 17:22.25 | jelly | galex-713: I don't remember whether aptitude reinstall keeps the previous flag or not. I suspect apt-get doesn't. |
| 17:22.30 | galex-713 | well, I can mark them all auto, them mark the few manual |
| 17:23.00 | jelly | be careful about autoremovals if you use aptitude in that case |
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| 17:25.27 | galex-713 | I donât |
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| 17:28.23 | mutante | drwarner: i would try going to BIOS and toggling the "legacy BIOS" / "UEFI" mode .. just because |
| 17:30.08 | mutante | drwarner: also when the screen goes blank, maybe by hitting Ctrl + C or F-keys (Shift + F-keys) you can get into the grub rescue shell and see logs from there |
| 17:31.48 | jelly | drwarner: can you verify whether the machine appear on the network, even if the screen is blank? |
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| 17:34.20 | drwarner | mutante, I've already adjusted the bios settings, and the screen doesn't go blank until after grub boots the kernel, so the rescue shell is no longer available. |
| 17:35.06 | mutante | drwarner: can you try a different kernel version? older or newer |
| 17:35.22 | mutante | after installation you could then keep testing which one causes it |
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| 17:35.47 | mutante | compare the one used in the Ubuntu daily |
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| 17:38.00 | jelly | it sounds like the switch to framebuffer console messes things up, but the OS might otherwise be booting normally |
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| 17:39.25 | drwarner | that's what I thought too, I tried booting with the nofb option, no love. I also tried the i915.modeset=0 option |
| 17:39.48 | mutante | you could test that by booting, waiting a bit and then SSH from another machine on the LAN |
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| 17:40.05 | drwarner | I guess I'll try getting a copy of the latest debian netboot from testing and see if it makes a difference |
| 17:40.06 | mutante | maybe you can then fix it from that shell |
| 17:40.42 | drwarner | ssh is available on installers?\ |
| 17:41.01 | mutante | this was re: "the OS might otherwise be booting normally" |
| 17:42.00 | drwarner | on an installer? You've confused me. |
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| 17:42.52 | mutante | i might be the one confused, i interpreted that as "installer is done, installs grub as last step, then it (looks like) it doesnt boot" |
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| 17:43.33 | MrSlaughter1775 | I tried following along with these instructions: http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee but I can't get it to work. |
| 17:43.34 | _0xbadc0de_ | anyone here knows how to use byobu? |
| 17:43.36 | drwarner | no. I'm talking about getting a blank screen when attempting to boot from the installer for stable. |
| 17:43.55 | MrSlaughter1775 | Bash still isn't recognizing the command "optirun" |
| 17:44.00 | _0xbadc0de_ | how do I rescale my window? |
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| 17:44.15 | mutante | drwarner: oh.. gotcha! well, i think trying testing is a good idea then |
| 17:44.26 | MrSlaughter1775 | I used this command to install, per the wiki: sudo apt-get install bumblebee-nvidia primus |
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| 17:45.28 | MrSlaughter1775 | I tried to run the install again and I get this: Media change: please insert the disc labeled |
| 17:45.28 | MrSlaughter1775 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:45.57 | MrSlaughter1775 | Idk why I would need to insert my bootable usb... |
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| 17:46.30 | MrSlaughter1775 | I'm sorry: Media change: please insert the disc labeled |
| 17:46.31 | MrSlaughter1775 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:47.05 | AndreasLutro | usually means you downloaded the wrong iso - but you can try to mount the usb stick as /media/cdrom, that's worked for me at least once |
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| 17:47.34 | MrSlaughter1775 | Gr... |
| 17:49.10 | alkisg | MrSlaughter1775: you can remove the cd from your /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't want it to prompt you |
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| 17:50.53 | PerfDave | When you do an install from a full CD/DVD (rather than netinst) it assumes you want to use that medium for installing packages later. |
| 17:51.32 | MrSlaughter1775 | alkisg, I believe that worked. Thank you. |
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| 17:52.51 | _0xbadc0de_ | hey |
| 17:52.57 | _0xbadc0de_ | anyone using byobu= |
| 17:53.00 | _0xbadc0de_ | ? |
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| 18:03.32 | JordiGH | 3? |
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| 18:04.40 | JordiGH | 3!!! ^.^ |
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| 18:26.04 | velix | Can I rent a debian packager? :D |
| 18:26.53 | JordiGH | velix: Try #debian-devel in OFTC, although here might work too. |
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| 18:27.58 | mutante | velix: maybe put it on ethlance.com |
| 18:28.07 | velix | k |
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| 18:50.56 | ledoktre | Greetings. Anyone here know how of a deb for libneon 2.9 or greater for Debian Jessie? All the public debs I find seem to be 2.7. |
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| 18:57.27 | PerfDave | ledoktre: Why would you want such a thing? (and any reason you're running Jessie instead of Stretch?) |
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| 18:58.13 | ledoktre | Sorry I wrote wrong. I am on stretch |
| 18:58.39 | ledoktre | The reason is because I wanted to play around with Asterisk and the Exchange Calendar integration. It requires 2.9 |
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| 19:00.10 | annadane | OS-37579, stop before you tell us your password |
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| 19:00.18 | annadane | mind the space with your / |
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| 19:01.33 | annadane | also is OS-whatever even a registered nick? idk |
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| 19:09.41 | velix | JordiGH: The help from #debian-devel was "the right way is build it as is" :) |
| 19:09.55 | velix | JordiGH: debian community hasn't changed in 10 years as I met it first :) |
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| 19:11.29 | velix | User: I need help. Community: No, you're just doing it wrong. |
| 19:11.55 | JordiGH | velix: I thought you were asking about paying someone to package something for you. |
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| 19:12.41 | velix | JordiGH: Yeah, if I can't get it on my own. Actually, building it with java solves my problem. But I want to learn, how to drop the java component :) |
| 19:13.02 | velix | JordiGH: but hey, it's 9pm only. I've got plenty of hours left to figure it out myself. |
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| 19:16.16 | Bosma | `journalctl --user` gives "No journal files were found." for any user service |
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| 19:27.45 | ledoktre | PerfDave: Dont know if you saw the reply. I made a mistake- I am on Stretch. Reason for the library is I wanted to play with Asterisk and its calendar/Exchange/CalDAV/EWS integration. 2.9 is Asterisk's requirement for 15.x |
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| 19:52.05 | password2_ | Hi , I have a bit of an offtopic question , hope I'm not being too offtopic. Does anyone know of a way to read ext4 partitions on windows? |
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| 19:53.50 | password2_ | or better yet , can I set up an virtual that will read those partitions? |
| 19:54.24 | alkisg | password2_: e.g. debian in virtualbox in windows can read physical ext partitions |
| 19:55.01 | password2_ | alkisg: thats awesome |
| 19:55.02 | RoyK | password2_: a vm on virtualbox should be able to read it - there's an ext4 port to windows as well, but I'm not sure how well that works - I don't use windoze |
| 19:55.24 | password2_ | yeah , sadly i decided to revert o windows |
| 19:55.33 | RoyK | traitor! |
| 19:55.33 | RoyK | :D |
| 19:55.56 | password2_ | :D |
| 19:55.59 | alkisg | well then boot from a live cd and migrate ext data to ntfs... |
| 19:56.02 | password2_ | my server will remain debian |
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| 20:01.18 | digdilem | password2_, i've used this in the past. I think it does ext4 as well as 2/3: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ |
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| 20:01.41 | password2_ | digdilem: i tired that , but windon't moaned about signed drivers D: |
| 20:01.58 | RoyK | password2_: well, setup a vm - shouldn't take too long |
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| 20:02.20 | digdilem | yeah, it does that. just read some comments and it seems it's a little prone to corruption, so maybe best not to use it after all |
| 20:02.55 | RoyK | probably not a lot of corruption if mounted read-only if you can do that in a good way on windoze |
| 20:03.36 | password2_ | actully i need to grab oracle first |
| 20:03.44 | password2_ | which might take some time |
| 20:03.45 | digdilem | ive used it without issue to read stuff (i think it'll ro mount itself). but ymmv |
| 20:03.56 | RoyK | password2_: oracle? the dbms? |
| 20:04.06 | password2_ | oracle virtualbox |
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| 20:08.29 | Guest32976 | is there a userspace utility to generate a crypt? the one discussed in man 3 crypt |
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| 20:08.51 | Guest32976 | I'm generating a preseed and need to crypt a root password |
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| 20:23.39 | hicks_ | check mkpasswd |
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| 20:24.17 | hicks_ | "mkpasswd -m help" will list what options it can handle, des should get you crypt |
| 20:24.50 | RoyK | des56 is about as secure as - well - des56 - broken in an hour or so back in 1998 |
| 20:25.05 | RoyK | for a modern GPU, milliseconds |
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| 20:26.50 | hicks_ | yep :) |
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| 20:28.56 | RoyK | mkpasswd -m sha-512 user:pass |
| 20:28.58 | RoyK | perhaps |
| 20:29.02 | hicks_ | If you want bcrypt or similar, I'm not sure it'll support that, you may have to do a script in python. |
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| 20:35.07 | Guest32976 | sha-512 is good enough |
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| 20:35.28 | RoyK | sha-512 should suffice for some years, yes |
| 20:35.52 | Guest32976 | if i only provide the -m sha-512 switch, will it automatically use a random salt? |
| 20:36.06 | greycat | TIAS |
| 20:36.08 | hicks_ | I believe so, but check the man page. |
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| 20:37.17 | RoyK | hicks_: the manpage is scarce - but afaics it uses a random salt - just try it a few times |
| 20:37.36 | Tenkawa | RoyK: anything in the /usr/doc tree? |
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| 20:38.09 | Guest32976 | man page isn't super clear on what the behavior is if no salt switch or value is specified. |
| 20:38.10 | RoyK | I usually just read the manual page, which it should be |
| 20:38.14 | Tenkawa | er /usr/share/doc |
| 20:38.25 | Tenkawa | might be some more info |
| 20:38.48 | Guest32976 | output seems to include a salt though |
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| 20:44.43 | RoyK | Tenkawa: for ((x=1; x<=1024; x++)) ; do mkpasswd -m sha-512 user:pass ; done | sort -u ;) |
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| 20:59.29 | Guest32976 | is debian-installer's partman-auto custom recipe capable of GPT? |
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| 21:00.38 | Thedarkb-X40 | If I try Debian again, will my wifi just softblock itself irreparably again? |
| 21:01.31 | Guest32976 | nvm |
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| 21:36.07 | Raptors | Hey guys I need some help. I have debian 8 VPC and I am trying to install https://packages.debian.org/unstable/python3-webencodings but it's not in the repo |
| 21:37.15 | Raptors | how do I go about installing this? |
| 21:39.17 | awal1 | ,v python3-webencodings |
| 21:39.18 | judd | Package: python3-webencodings on amd64 -- buster: 0.5-2; sid: 0.5-2; stretch: 0.5-2 |
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| 21:39.58 | Raptors | I'm an idiot. I should have started with Stretch, but I chose 8 because I though it'd be more stable given it's a ultra low end box :( |
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| 21:42.55 | Raptors | could I just use the stretch repo and grab that 1 package? |
| 21:42.58 | Raptors | I guess I'll hit up google |
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| 21:49.54 | Bosma | If I do `systemd --user status <myservice>` I see a few recent log lines (and status of service), but if I do `journalctl --user -u <myservice>` it says "No journal files were found." |
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| 21:51.42 | Pobega | Hi, curious if it's possible to remove the package `gnome-software` without removing the entire `gnome` package? It doesn't really seem to me like Gnome should depend on a graphical package manager |
| 21:51.54 | morenoh149 | I have a daemon that starts up a docker container, is it okay to place an env_file as a sibling to the daemon or should daemons be as self-contained as possible? |
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| 22:00.45 | awal1 | Pobega, check reverse dependencies for start |
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| 22:10.46 | Pobega | awal1: yeah as expected gnome-core depends on gnome-software, I was already aware of this though. I was wondering if there is a way to unlink the two, since I don't get why gnome-core would depend on gnome-software. Also, be right back. |
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| 22:25.53 | Guest32976 | how can i tell where the errors are in my preseed file? the installer is just saying it's 'corrupt' not where it's having an issue |
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| 22:26.59 | brokencycle | Hi! I'm having trouble with SSH tunneling. Using this command: ssh -v -CN myself@remotehost -L 2993:localhost:993 I expect that the tunnel be established and then SSH just sit there. |
| 22:27.16 | solarplexus | guys im tryna install voxelands from source and when i run make i get an error |
| 22:27.32 | brokencycle | When I run this command from the command line, it works like a charm, but if I try to run this command as a tunnel command for offlineimap, it hangs, |
| 22:27.46 | solarplexus | src/CMakeFiles/voxelands.dir/build.make:3181: recipe for target 'bin/voxelands' failed make[2]: *** [bin/voxelands] Error 1 CMakeFiles/Makefile2:169: recipe for target 'src/CMakeFiles/voxelands.dir/all' failed make[1]: *** [src/CMakeFiles/voxelands.dir/all] Error 2 Makefile:149: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 22:28.08 | brokencycle | saying "Entering interactive session" just before that (I ran with "-v" to see this). |
| 22:28.48 | brokencycle | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 22:30.08 | brokencycle | I'm on stretch, btw. |
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| 22:31.54 | Brigo | question time, it looks like. |
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| 22:34.35 | brokencycle | Guest32976: You can try to rip out parts from your preseed file until it starts to work, then start adding small pieces back in. |
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| 22:42.06 | galex-713 | solarplexus: paste it here too |
| 22:42.11 | galex-713 | you never know |
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| 22:44.09 | Guest32976 | brokencycle, oh gawd |
| 22:44.45 | galex-713 | Hi, Iâm trying to install the openvpn config my isp gave me, in a mail there a big text to paste delimited by stuff like â### config file start/stop hereâ, and the same for a shared key |
| 22:45.03 | galex-713 | it refers a âta.keyâ file in the main config file, so I did put the shared key here |
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| 22:45.26 | galex-713 | I also made a file called âauth.txtâ with my login and password (one per line) and added auth-user-pass auth.txt to the main config |
| 22:45.31 | galex-713 | should I do anything else? |
| 22:45.32 | GJdan | In you folks' opinion, is it there a noteworthy security impact on having mysql-client installed on a webserver where the databases on on a separate server? |
| 22:45.40 | galex-713 | I donât feel like openvpn is doing anything |
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| 22:46.10 | brokencycle | Guest32976: I know it's not pretty, but had to do the same thing recently. There's no silver bullet, just elbow grease. |
| 22:47.18 | brokencycle | I've created a paste with the command and the debug output: https://pastebin.com/WuzGgPiw |
| 22:47.46 | Guest32976 | brokencycle, well I'm pretty sure it's the disk partitioning. Is there an example for a amd64 UEFI system somewhere? the documentation for partman-auto is ATROCIOUS |
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| 22:49.41 | nvzn | hi, what's the proper way to configure dhcp to support hotplug on a NIC? |
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| 22:50.02 | nvzn | ie, to get a new address if the NIC goes down and returns |
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| 22:51.33 | nvzn | in the past I would use auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, but with systemd I'm not so sure |
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| 22:59.41 | Guest32976 | actually, would someone mind looking at my partman config and letting me know if you spot anything? |
| 23:00.33 | Guest32976 | it says no root filesystem defined, despite having a root filesystem defined. i don't see what's wrong with that section |
| 23:01.14 | Guest32976 | https://pastebin.com/31Ez4Z82 |
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| 23:11.46 | trumee | I am installing debian 8 in a VM running on bhyve. I can see that my router is giving out an ip address to it, but debian returns No DHCPOFFERS received |
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| 23:15.59 | tw | trumee: it's most likely freebsd's networking/firewall at fault. You can check if your VM is receiving any dhcp reply at all with tcpdump. |
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| 23:17.24 | trumee | tw, debian 9 is able to get dhcp address |
| 23:17.52 | trumee | tw, i tried ubuntu-server stable and it worked fine too. It just that debian 8 fails. |
| 23:18.15 | trumee | On the pfsense router i can see the request being made and the ip address being alloted. |
| 23:18.39 | trumee | So the request is definitely reaching the router. |
| 23:18.41 | tw | I'd still try tcpdump in the VM to see if the packet is making it. |
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| 23:19.18 | trumee | This is new install using the CD. There is no tcpdump in the CD. |
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| 23:20.21 | ChmEarl | Guest32976, label{ varfs} <-- bad white space |
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| 23:21.47 | tw | trumee: Manually configure networking then install it. Is there anything in the system log aside from the "no dhcpoffers" message? |
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| 23:23.32 | trumee | tw, i tried dhclient -v eth0 |
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| 23:28.29 | trumee | tw, ok i have setup a static ip, and get to the internet. apt update is stuck at 785 [Waiting for headers] |
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| 23:58.01 | brokencycle | I would like to do IPv6 over wifi. I get the address via DHCP: "dhclient -6 wlan0". But somehow, I only get an address, but nothing in the way of a default route or so, although other clients in the same network do. |
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| 23:58.43 | brokencycle | Adding a default route for IPv6 through the interface doee not give me connectivity via IPv6. |
| 23:58.56 | Dagger | DHCPv6 doesn't handle routes, after all. routes come from RAs |
| 23:59.58 | Dagger | often your address also comes from SLAAC (which is enabled by a flag in RAs, and just involves your computer making an address up for itself), rather than DHCPv6 |