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| 01:42.11 | KNERD | In Dbeian 8, in my iptables rules I have 2 lines: :INPUT DROP [25:1582] :FORWARD DROP [0:0] Using itables -l --line-numners does not show up so I cannot delete them. |
| 01:42.18 | KNERD | So how can i? |
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| 01:43.12 | toruvinn | KNERD, i think those are the default policies? |
| 01:43.18 | toruvinn | KNERD, those you change with -P? |
| 01:43.40 | toruvinn | like, iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT for example |
| 01:43.46 | toruvinn | (which is a bad idea, btw) |
| 01:44.45 | KNERD | Oddly, when listing all of then near the end is the opposite .. :INPUT ACCEPT [350285:149773232] :FORWARD ACCEPT [1147:76220] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [285125:130879856] |
| 01:45.45 | toruvinn | KNERD, different table. |
| 01:46.05 | toruvinn | KNERD, you know that iptables is called that cause you have multiple tables for different stuff? the default one is filter. you have nat, raw and some othersw. |
| 01:46.24 | toruvinn | KNERD, pay attention to *tablename in the file too. assuming you're looking at iptables-save output |
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| 01:46.59 | KNERD | Yes, I am looking at iptables-save |
| 01:47.37 | toruvinn | (i was never a fan of iptables-save, btw, i much prefer having a script build it up from the scratch - because in a script there's some logic involved in it which - if you understand from beggining to the end, it's much easier to grasp your rules than a random mess of stuff you just save-load between reboots) |
| 01:48.23 | KNERD | understandabloe. I do know I have to remove those 2 lines I orignallu posted as they ar i nterfering |
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| 01:57.59 | danielboston26 | anyone here know about debian for windows? |
| 01:58.31 | danielboston26 | speficially how to add a file from the windows side to "debian"(basically bash) |
| 01:59.46 | mutante | danielboston26: oh, i was about to tell you https://people.debian.org/~rmh/goodbye-microsoft/ |
| 02:00.02 | mutante | that's debian (installer) for Windows |
| 02:00.02 | KNERD | toruvinn: your advice sort of worked, but.... those 2 lines are still in iptables. |
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| 02:04.59 | danielboston26 | *crickets* guess no one doesk |
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| 02:06.06 | KNERD | danielboston26: no, because we use the real deal :-) |
| 02:06.40 | somiaj | danielboston26: you aren't clear what you mean by 'add to debian', also is this the same box dual boot, or two different machines. |
| 02:07.13 | somiaj | also I don't understand why you want to 'add bash to debian' from windows, so some clarification will help |
| 02:07.17 | mutante | something about the so called "subsystem for Linux" which isn't running Linux |
| 02:07.32 | mutante | GNU/Windows or whatnot |
| 02:08.17 | somiaj | GNU/Windows? cgywin? |
| 02:08.22 | mutante | no, this https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10 |
| 02:08.31 | KNERD | No..it's Linux for WIndows. |
| 02:08.31 | danielboston26 | its basically bash on windows but now MS is offering different "flavors" theres a debian ubuntu suse and a bunch others |
| 02:08.38 | KNERD | there should be a pwd |
| 02:08.40 | mutante | Windows Subsystem for Linux |
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| 02:10.14 | somiaj | if that is what is being discussed, this doesn't seem like the correct place to support it. |
| 02:10.25 | somiaj | though unsure (except using microsoft support) what to use. |
| 02:11.00 | danielboston26 | somiaj since MS is using debian branding i thought someone here might of heard of it |
| 02:11.02 | danielboston26 | or used it |
| 02:11.36 | danielboston26 | they did invent linux after all :P |
| 02:11.44 | somiaj | I'm not sure what this 'linux substystem is', but I ahve a feeling it isn't a 'pure debian' which is what we support here. |
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| 02:13.51 | somiaj | ahh wikipedia makes it sound like 'wine' but the other way, so allowing one to run linux binaries in windows, "WSL provides a Linux-compatible kernel interface developed by Microsoft (containing no Linux kernel code[1])", so yea this sounds like something you need to get windows support from. |
| 02:14.04 | somiaj | maybe ##windows could help with this, though unsure of what channel would be appropriate. |
| 02:14.39 | danielboston26 | figured someone here might be running it its a pretty cool thing actually |
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| 02:15.13 | somiaj | most here just use debian as their primary os, or on servers, but even if someone here does run this, support of microsfot's tools is not on topic here. |
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| 02:22.33 | toruvinn | KNERD, those lines will stay in your iptables-save file. they're there to save the policy on each chain. |
| 02:22.39 | toruvinn | KNERD, check man iptables for -P |
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| 02:35.45 | neutrak | $ curl -i https://wiki.debian.org |
| 02:35.46 | neutrak | HTTP/1.1 403 FORBIDDEN |
| 02:35.47 | neutrak | FYI |
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| 02:37.59 | KNERD | toruvinn: yeah..thanks |
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| 03:24.23 | wr | when install a deb with dpkg -i and it has missing dependencies what command should be used to fix them? |
| 03:24.51 | karlpinc | "Debian branding"? (Perhaps a topic for #debian-offtopic...) |
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| 03:25.22 | karlpinc | wr: Generally you don't install debs directly. You use apt-get or aptitude. Why are you installing a .deb? |
| 03:26.13 | wr | karlpinc, keepassxc not on repos |
| 03:27.36 | karlpinc | wr: (What does that do?) You'd install the dependencies with apt-get or aptitude. But beware of frankendebian. |
| 03:27.43 | karlpinc | !tell wr about frankendebian |
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| 03:31.29 | karlpinc | !tell wr about usrlocal |
| 03:32.05 | karlpinc | wr: Following the factoid links in the usrlocal factoid can also be helpful when installing stuff on Debian that is not in Debian. |
| 03:32.35 | wr | karlpinc, how would you install https://keepassxc.org on debian 9? |
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| 03:35.40 | karlpinc | wr: Haven't done it in a while. I'd probably follow the instructions at https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/blob/develop/INSTALL.md and make DESTDIR=/usr/local/bin But it'd probably be even better to use stow. But I'd have to read how to use it (again). |
| 03:35.45 | karlpinc | !stow |
| 03:35.45 | dpkg | well, stow is a nifty program used to manage a /usr/local/ hierarchy. It keeps all the programs separate, so you can install and remove them without playing the "which program does that file belong to" game; ask me about <stow usage>. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow . See also <usrlocal>, <uupdate>, <checkinstall>. |
| 03:36.23 | karlpinc | wr: Shouldn't be hard to use stow. You just need to read the directions. |
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| 03:37.30 | karlpinc | wr: The hard part, especially with security related software, is keeping up with fixes. So you'll want to subscribe to a mailing list (or something) that notifies you when security fixes are available so you can re-install with a fixed version. |
| 03:38.00 | karlpinc | !stow usage |
| 03:38.00 | dpkg | A quick intro to <stow>: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-version && make && make install; cd /usr/local/stow/ ; stow program-version. Use stow -D to remove. See also <usrlocal>. |
| 03:39.57 | karlpinc | wr: keepassxc does not seem to use ./configure, so you'd use DESTDIR=/usr/local/stow/keepassxc-x.x.x (whatever version) instead (before running make). |
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| 03:40.48 | Unit193 | Could just ask for a backport, no? |
| 03:41.02 | wr | karlpinc, installed it |
| 03:41.03 | karlpinc | wr: The other question is why use that program and not something in Debian already? You have to answer that for yourself, although you can ask here about other programs with similar functionality. (You may be told to, e.g., see the <search> factoid to go look for yourself. :-) |
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| 03:41.34 | Unit193 | ,v keepassxc |
| 03:41.35 | judd | Package: keepassxc on amd64 -- buster: 2.3.1+dfsg.1-1; sid: 2.3.1+dfsg.1-1 |
| 03:41.35 | karlpinc | Unit193: Is it in unstable? |
| 03:41.51 | karlpinc | Unit193: Good point. |
| 03:42.18 | karlpinc | !ssb |
| 03:42.18 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 03:42.51 | karlpinc | wr: A very good choice is backporting it yourself. See above. You still need to keep up with security updates. |
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| 05:05.04 | FarhaadN | hi all, i got this error on command "fdisk -l" |
| 05:05.05 | FarhaadN | Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary. |
| 05:05.43 | FarhaadN | what should i do? |
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| 05:07.29 | somiaj | FarhaadN: What are you trying to do? |
| 05:07.52 | somiaj | is there anything on partition 3? can you access it despite fdisk complaining? Are you trying to recover data, etc. |
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| 05:10.47 | wanderer_ | hello? |
| 05:12.33 | FarhaadN | somiaj: i want to cope some data on that |
| 05:12.58 | wanderer_ | I had a laptop that ceased to turn on one day to due to, what I presume to be, a hardware malfunction. I succesfully managed to extracted the hard drive an place it in an usb adapter. I want to install debian on that now external hard rive and boot from it in a latop. Would that be possible? |
| 05:13.35 | wanderer_ | I apologize for all the typos. |
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| 05:15.24 | wanderer_ | I had a laptop that ceased to turn on one day due to (what I presume to be) a hardware malfunction. I succesfully managed to extract the hard drive from it and place it in an usb adapter. I want to install Debian on that now external hard drive and boot from it on another new latop. Would that be possible? |
| 05:17.12 | wanderer_ | There are instruction for installing to and booting from an external USB drive, but I don't know, if these same instructions are applicable to an external HDD. |
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| 05:20.44 | FarhaadN | somiaj: give you my message on channel? |
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| 05:26.13 | FarhaadN | a ask my question again |
| 05:26.19 | FarhaadN | i* |
| 05:26.24 | FarhaadN | i got this error on command "fdisk -l" |
| 05:26.25 | FarhaadN | Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary. |
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| 05:48.20 | FarhaadN | i ask my question again |
| 05:48.25 | FarhaadN | i got this error on command "fdisk -l" |
| 05:48.30 | FarhaadN | Partition 3 does not start on physical sector boundary. |
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| 05:59.08 | themill | FarhaadN: that's not an error |
| 05:59.21 | alex_rus | wanderer_:definitely no |
| 05:59.56 | alex_rus | you cant dd hdd with iso |
| 06:00.41 | alex_rus | FarhaadN:bad news |
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| 06:37.17 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 06:38.02 | Azrael_- | i've got a monitor which doesn't scale properly. some parts of the desktop aren't visible. unfortunately the monitor doesn't have options to fix this. can i use debian for this purpose? |
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| 06:49.52 | iflema | Azrael_-: any more details? like ... Monitors naitive resolution, current set resolution, type of graphics adapter and the driver in use?. |
| 06:50.06 | iflema | Azrael_-: "some parts" a little slither or half the screen? |
| 06:50.46 | Azrael_- | left+upper can't be seen completely. will try to tell you the details in a few minutes. the installation was just screwed, just reinstalling :D |
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| 06:51.25 | iflema | Azrael_-: itll be good for ya... |
| 06:51.28 | iflema | =) |
| 06:52.30 | iflema | Azrael_-: upper left ok during install? |
| 06:53.55 | Azrael_- | yes, but during the installation there is also always a border all around. like this i can't really tell if i see really everything all the time |
| 06:54.25 | Azrael_- | i admit it is a tv which i am using as a screen. that's why i don't have options to modify it on the tv itself :( |
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| 06:55.49 | iflema | you could probably find details out during... but no rush and the info is not necessairly for me. Just put it on the record... |
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| 07:05.56 | Azrael_- | it was about 0,5cm which wasn't visible on the left and the top. can't tell much regarding the rest yet |
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| 07:07.49 | nse | Hi, guys. I've just finished the installation of Electric Sheep following the instructions here: https://github.com/scottdraves/electricsheep/wiki/Compiling. Besides that, I just can't start it. I don't know what's going on. But I believe that's something to do with this: "you'll now have to run ldconfig if you installed a shared library and also modify the LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or equivalent) environment variable.". Do you guys have any idei |
| 07:07.50 | nse | a about how can I start it? That's it, my friends. I hope you're having a good Saturday. Embraces and just good things. |
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| 07:27.08 | RobertLM78 | Got the Lintian output to two items :D |
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| 07:40.05 | Azrael_- | iflema: found the options, to adjust the display. now it fits like a charm :) |
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| 07:41.20 | rfs | hey guys, need some help with updating hexchat. The current version available via apt-get is not the latest. I tried to manually install it but it requires mason and its the problem, it requires a newer version than I have. Debian 9 |
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| 07:42.51 | somiaj | why do you want to update hexchat. Debian is a frozen system and in most cases suggested you use the version in debian. |
| 07:43.09 | rfs | the up to date version for hexchat is broken |
| 07:43.19 | rfs | there is a newer version that fixed a few issues |
| 07:43.27 | iflema | Azrael_-: goodone. Nice work... :D |
| 07:43.33 | somiaj | ,hexchat |
| 07:43.38 | somiaj | ,v hexchat |
| 07:43.39 | judd | Package: hexchat on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 2.12.4-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.12.4-3; stretch-backports: 2.14.1-2~bpo9+1; buster: 2.14.1-2; sid: 2.14.1-2 |
| 07:43.48 | somiaj | rfs: is the new version 2.14 by chance? |
| 07:43.51 | rfs | yep |
| 07:44.13 | rfs | which fixes an issue with FiSH |
| 07:44.14 | somiaj | should have looked in stretch-backports frist, and install it from there |
| 07:44.28 | rfs | how do i do that? |
| 07:44.41 | Azrael_- | what is the best option to connect to the gnome-gui of debian from a windows-machine? (vncserver only shows a grey output) |
| 07:44.51 | somiaj | !stretch-backports |
| 07:44.51 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in the stretch-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>. |
| 07:44.56 | somiaj | !backports |
| 07:44.56 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 07:45.41 | rfs | so adding the reps to my apt won't upgrade the whole system? |
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| 07:45.49 | rfs | repos* |
| 07:46.14 | somiaj | the backports repo is specificly designed to work with stretch, and due to pinning only packages you explicity ask for come from backports. |
| 07:46.32 | somiaj | the packages don't have the same security/testing as normal packages, but they work fine for the most part |
| 07:46.46 | rfs | I get a bit nervous to run apt-get update when adding a different release. I dont want a cascade effect on dependencies |
| 07:46.49 | somiaj | well as the ones in stretch proper |
| 07:47.10 | somiaj | the backport repo is pinned in such a way, only things you have explicity asked for get upgraded |
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| 07:47.20 | rfs | oh cool |
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| 07:47.27 | iflema | Azrael_-: do you need the actual GUI or just a terminal? |
| 07:47.47 | Azrael_- | iflema: i want the actual gui. terminal is already available using openssh |
| 07:47.53 | iflema | i |
| 07:48.26 | iflema | im fresh out of ideas |
| 07:49.11 | rfs | somiaj, I might be doing something wrong. Still giving me the same version after doing apt-get update |
| 07:49.32 | Azrael_- | vnc failed, for xrdp i only found guides for using it with xfce and teamviewer failed to install. only thing i remember was something like x11-forwarding. but this is ages ago when i did this |
| 07:50.31 | somiaj | apt policy hexchat, then apt -t stretch-backports install hexchat (you ahve to explicty tell apt to use the backports) |
| 07:51.37 | rfs | yea I did, still not doing it |
| 07:51.52 | rfs | under version table its showing me the 2.14 version |
| 07:51.59 | somiaj | did you add the repo? |
| 07:52.04 | rfs | yes |
| 07:52.05 | Azrael_- | iflema: ok, will try x2go next :) |
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| 07:52.13 | rfs | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main |
| 07:52.31 | somiaj | well provide some output at paste.debian.net, but if you see it under apt policy hexchat, just make sure you use the -t stretch-backports flag |
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| 07:53.02 | blaztek | Azrael_-: will Chrome Remote Desktop work? |
| 07:53.22 | Azrael_- | blaztek: never heard about it yet. gotta read up about it |
| 07:53.33 | blaztek | okay |
| 07:54.25 | rfs | somiaj, https://ybin.me/p/409e40d6e58357da#aVftUVMYszqSXRoDBvm6PGmboampAo6eJUvVPZhhBRE= |
| 07:54.52 | Azrael_- | blaztek: could work but i don't like such cloud mechanisms. at least i avoid them if i can |
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| 07:55.38 | rfs | sorry wrong paste website, will upload to debian.net |
| 07:55.48 | somiaj | that is fine |
| 07:55.59 | somiaj | anyways, I don't see why it isn't installing the version from stretch backports |
| 07:56.36 | somiaj | oh wait I do, why do you have stretch pinned at 1000? |
| 07:56.42 | somiaj | you shouldn't be using pinning that way |
| 07:56.52 | rfs | I havent changed anything I dont think |
| 07:57.32 | somiaj | you ahve done something, -t will only pin at 990, which isn't bigger than 1000 |
| 07:57.44 | rfs | right |
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| 07:58.06 | rfs | where do I change the pin? |
| 07:58.21 | somiaj | in /etc somewhere, not postitve, I don't usually mess with pinning |
| 07:59.15 | somiaj | it is like /etc/apt/prefferences (or inside the .d directory) |
| 07:59.25 | rfs | yea you were right |
| 07:59.37 | rfs | i had some entries there when I was trying to install firefox quantum |
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| 08:00.00 | somiaj | were you mixing sid and stretch sources, lots of terrible guides on the inetnet about that. |
| 08:00.08 | rfs | yea thats what I did |
| 08:00.19 | rfs | but yea, thanks a lot somiaj |
| 08:00.23 | rfs | its all good now |
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| 08:37.47 | Keyboard_Ninja | Hello. Is there a quick way to create package pin? Example command: "apt pin --current-version kvirc". And this command creates the file "/etc/apt/preferences.d/kvirc" with all necessary content? |
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| 08:38.52 | R1ch | Hello |
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| 08:43.38 | Keyboard_Ninja | When I wrote the question, I was able to create a correct search query. I think that in my case the "Put a package on hold" will help |
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| 08:52.45 | Azrael_- | i've just installed a desktop computer and it seems like it goes into suspension/standby all the time after a specific amount of time. already change all options i found in the options manager but somehow i missed something. can you give me a hint? |
| 08:52.59 | Azrael_- | it shall never go into sleep mode |
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| 09:06.18 | _KaszpiR_ | Azrael_- bios settings? |
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| 09:07.18 | cluelessperson | I'm confused. The preseed documentation says to put the preseed.cfg file at the root of the USB drive |
| 09:07.25 | cluelessperson | but the USB drive file system is read only |
| 09:07.31 | cluelessperson | and it cannot be made writable |
| 09:07.34 | cluelessperson | is frustrated |
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| 09:09.37 | Azrael_- | _KaszpiR_: no idea yet. now i disabled the runlevel-targets and hope for the best |
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| 09:22.24 | Guest22 | I am trying to download Debian Testing (with firmware), specifically the weekly build with the Cinnamon DE. However, I cannot find the ISOs in the directory. I've tried searching online, but am confused by the directory structure. This is the link, yet I see no ISOs. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekl |
| 09:22.24 | Guest22 | y-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 09:28.07 | jelly | Guest22: live or installer image? |
| 09:28.49 | Guest22 | @jelly: Live Image. Although, I will settle for installer if I cannot find Live. |
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| 09:29.58 | jelly | if you look at the logs you'll see the builds failed |
| 09:30.52 | pav | hi jelly |
| 09:31.15 | jelly | hi |
| 09:31.29 | pav | feeling good saturday? :) |
| 09:31.50 | Guest22 | @jelly : Yes, I just did. I could use the previous week's live-image but I cannot find a mirror that has an older image. Could you point me in the right direction ? |
| 09:32.35 | jelly | Guest22: there probably isn't one, testing images are ephemeral |
| 09:32.48 | jelly | esp. daily and weekly builds |
| 09:33.12 | Guest22 | @jelly: In your opinion, what is the alternative I have ? |
| 09:33.55 | pav | jelly: i have several strange issues with "including-firmware" branch. Finally installed from netinst and did also by hands |
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| 09:34.26 | jelly | Guest22: what's your goal? |
| 09:34.49 | pav | diid rest* by hands |
| 09:35.33 | Guest22 | @jelly : I am looking at installing Debian Testing (to stay on the leading edge for newer versions but not the bleeding edge) and my favoured DE is Cinnamon. |
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| 09:36.25 | pav | Guest22: why do you want Debian leading edge? |
| 09:36.32 | jelly | Guest22: if you actually want to install testing, and not test the future installer, start by installing stretch, perhaps just the base system, then do an in-place upgrade to buster, then install the rest |
| 09:37.02 | Guest22 | @pav : Could you elaborate on the 'Strange Issues' you have faced ? |
| 09:37.19 | jelly | !install testing |
| 09:37.19 | dpkg | Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . The chance of the testing installer being broken on any given day is quite high. Instead, do a minimal installation using the stable installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Also ask me about <testing>, <apt-listchanges>, <d-d-a>. |
| 09:37.34 | jelly | dpkg, stretch->buster |
| 09:37.34 | dpkg | Don't run Debian "testing" just after a release unless you like helping fix bugs. Testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. If you feel you need instructions on how to upgrade, you should wait a while. |
| 09:37.43 | jelly | ha |
| 09:38.04 | Guest22 | @pav : Debian Stable, is good but I'd prefer to have newer versions of programs that I use. |
| 09:38.25 | jelly | do you also prefer a system that breaks often? |
| 09:38.38 | pav | Yes I can Guest22. It was not daily build, it was offical "with wirmware" ISO. Couldn't make install at all on my sytstem. finall I used plain netinst |
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| 09:39.32 | jelly | pav: did you manage to file an installation report? (also, images with firmware are by definition unofficial...) |
| 09:39.46 | Guest22 | @jelly: That sounds like a reasonable alternative, starting with stretch and then changing over to buster. It's just that the weekly live-image would have been more convenient. |
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| 09:40.42 | pav | Guest22: it's a Debian. Concept of "new things" are kind complicated to understand at first. It's not like for example "new ubuntu" evene ubuntu is Debian derivate |
| 09:40.51 | jelly | Guest22: I suppose you can join the live-build team and help fix them |
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| 09:41.31 | pav | jelly: I coluldnt make troughg LVM + Grub combiation with that iso |
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| 09:41.44 | Guest22 | @jelly and @pav : Yes, in the long run, I'd like to contribute to the community. But I need to get started first. |
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| 09:42.26 | Logg | This has happened twice so far: after upgrading graphics card, and the system has been up for 18000 seconds, the pc speaker beeps and the message `do_IRQ: 6.36 No irq handler for vector` appears in dmesg every 20 to 200 seconds. Both times were after 18000 seconds aka 5 hours. |
| 09:42.57 | pav | jelly: no, couldn boot at all. Grub2 didn't want to install and install broked while installing base system |
| 09:44.02 | pav | jelly I remember message, partly "couldn't install base system" |
| 09:44.24 | jelly | that's not a lot |
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| 09:45.45 | jelly | Guest22: also, live images are really meant to try out without installing; the separate installer iso has less bugs even if live now also includes the installer bits. |
| 09:46.07 | pav | Guest22: you can contribute in many ways, try to find something youre quite good in and start with contributing in that area, to see what Debian is and Why Debian. |
| 09:46.33 | pav | jelly: do we have some kind of "Why Debian, and why not"? |
| 09:46.56 | Guest22 | @jelly: I'll give a thought to the separate installer. Thanks ! |
| 09:47.20 | pav | jelly: that's nothing, not a "not a lot" :P |
| 09:47.31 | Guest22 | @pav: Yes, indeed. I'll work my way up. Thanks for the help :) |
| 09:47.55 | pav | You're welcome Guest22 |
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| 09:49.28 | jelly | pav: that's not a lot of diagnostic info to try suggest something to fix it |
| 09:49.50 | jelly | !why debian |
| 09:49.50 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
| 09:50.03 | jelly | !why not debian |
| 09:50.43 | Azrael_- | if i want to recompile the kernel and want an amd64, what target arch do i have to use? |
| 09:51.05 | pav | jelly: i just wanted to pointed out that there are real issues with that branch in stable also. Not surprised daily builds have problems. |
| 09:52.07 | pav | we all know what "daily builds" relay are :D |
| 09:52.15 | pav | really* |
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| 10:04.31 | Logg | ones that show up in dmesg |
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| 10:22.02 | agio | Logg: you can filter dmesg using `dmesg --level 4' will only show entries of "warning" (or notice) and higher - is that what you mean? |
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| 10:26.30 | Logg | Well, it's apparently at level 1. nothing is apparently wrong, but it spams these very high priority messages about irq vectors being missing |
| 10:27.04 | Logg | so filtering at even level 1, it won't stop it... I want to solve it, but if I can't, just stopping the error message would also fix it. |
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| 10:31.01 | agio | Logg: why not just leave it alone - and live with the output ? |
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| 10:31.53 | Logg | it beeps the pcspeaker every 20 to 200 seconds. as a work around, I have "rmmod pcspkr", but that breaks my pcspkr for any program that might want to use it. Log file spam is also a reason |
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| 10:32.54 | m2source | hello |
| 10:33.02 | agio | ok , yeah thats annoying |
| 10:33.24 | Logg | agio, thank your for your sympathies. |
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| 10:34.52 | Logg | m2source, if you have a question, you can ask it. |
| 10:35.47 | agio | Logg: what command/ how are you reading the log? |
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| 10:37.19 | Logg | agio, "do_IRQ: 6.36 No irq handler for vector". I think it might be because I didn't accidentally uninstalled firmware-realtek while installing my graphics card. Need to wait 5 hours to find out -- it's failed twice in a row after uptime of 18000 seconds |
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| 10:38.55 | Logg | system is up for 5 hours, eth0 link goes down for a period of 4 seconds before going back up again, then the do_IRQ spam begins. |
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| 10:39.24 | Logg | should be just firmware-realtek hopefully. |
| 10:40.45 | agio | Logg: wouldn't you get a firmware error if you had a prob with realtek package - what I meant was - what command are you using to read the log? |
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| 10:40.58 | Logg | dmesg. it's logged to /var/log/kern.log |
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| 11:14.10 | jelly | !printk |
| 11:14.10 | dpkg | rumour has it, printk is see docs for <sysctl> and adjust /etc/sysctl.conf kernel.printk (3 4 1 7 or so). You can also use 'dmesg -n1' command. See http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt or man 5 proc /printk for meaning of the numbers (console_loglevel, default_message_loglevel, minimum_console_level, default_console_loglevel) |
| 11:14.50 | jelly | Logg: you might configure this ^ for a higher setting to avoid some of those messages going to console |
| 11:15.46 | jelly | until the underlying issue is solved |
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| 11:17.18 | Logg | I did try "dmesg -n 1", but it still logged the error messages. so I think they're coming out at that highest priority level. |
| 11:19.07 | Logg | I may look into if I can disable "only the highest priority" if it can't be solved any other way |
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| 11:19.48 | Logg | ideally, it would be regex based and I could just say "specifically, I do not want any messages from do_IRQ" |
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| 11:22.19 | jelly | kernel does it on its own, there's no way to filter |
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| 11:23.12 | Logg | feature request for 4.17: introduce regex based filtering of system messages |
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| 12:07.25 | davegarath | Hi all! I'm trying to setup a boot crypted root device in lvm getting key from usb stick. Something goes wrong. So before rebuild iniramfs I've copied old file in .safe and now I'm tring to boot with this .safe by editing menù but my system won't boot |
| 12:07.57 | davegarath | It has failed dependency and I'm in emergency mode |
| 12:08.46 | davegarath | journalctl say to me that Unit dev-mapper-mmcblk0p3_crypt.device has failed but / is right mounted |
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| 12:10.50 | davegarath | any idea how to solve dependency and boot default by stestemctl ? |
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| 12:13.34 | davegarath | I can't mount boot device in /boot but I can mount it in /mnt |
| 12:14.11 | davegarath | and I can't mount swap too. But swap device is available .... |
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| 12:19.13 | BanHammor | are you sure that / is not initramfs? |
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| 12:20.07 | davegarath | BanHammor, How to check that ? |
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| 12:20.55 | davegarath | mount command say to me / is from right device |
| 12:21.33 | davegarath | the right LV after decrypt PV |
| 12:21.52 | BanHammor | then it's not initramfs |
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| 12:35.07 | rant | does it matter / shoould a device be unmounted when I cp debian.iso /dev/sdd ? |
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| 12:37.16 | rant | retracts his question and just unmounts it anyhow. (new thumbdrive, was preformatted and automounted) |
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| 13:03.35 | davegarath | I "found" the problem. Luclky I has a oldest iniramfs copy and with this the system is right started up. I solved mofifying crypttab following this : https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/12/msg00523.html |
| 13:03.54 | davegarath | thank you to Jan Vales :) |
| 13:03.55 | alex_rus | really it doesnt |
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| 13:13.15 | noodlepie | Hiya guys! |
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| 13:42.06 | Neel | dd if=./firmware-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc1 |
| 13:42.12 | Neel | is this a right command? |
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| 13:42.33 | Neel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:42.37 | BCMM | Neel: you're writing a debian install image to usb, right? |
| 13:42.44 | Neel | yes |
| 13:42.58 | Neel | i tried tht but the usb doesnt boot up |
| 13:43.23 | BCMM | Neel: yeah, you're writing the install image to a partition on the USB stick |
| 13:43.26 | Neel | i tried removing the sdc1 to sdc and i get an iso filesytstem |
| 13:43.39 | BCMM | Neel: yes, that's correct |
| 13:43.40 | Neel | so that command should work? |
| 13:43.50 | Neel | dd if=./firmware-8.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc1 this one? |
| 13:43.54 | themill | no |
| 13:44.10 | BCMM | Neel: you should use of=/dev/sdc to write the image to the start of the usb stick, destroying existing partitions |
| 13:44.12 | Neel | ? |
| 13:44.22 | Neel | ok |
| 13:44.30 | BCMM | Neel: (also, you should only do that if /dev/sdc is *definitely* your USB stick, and not for example a hard drive with contents you care about) |
| 13:44.44 | BCMM | Neel: (and if you're happy to lose any existing data on the usb stick) |
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| 13:45.12 | Neel | ok |
| 13:45.54 | BCMM | Neel: getting an ISO filesystem on the usb stick is the expected outcome here. debian uses a hybrid iso system to allow the ISO to boot from USB as well as from a real CD-ROM |
| 13:45.58 | Neel | but when i try of=/dev/sdc the usb doesnt boot up |
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| 13:46.07 | Neel | ok |
| 13:46.16 | BCMM | Neel: then it's possible your computer is not configured for USB booting |
| 13:46.32 | BCMM | (or that it has secure boot enabled) |
| 13:46.39 | Neel | ill see |
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| 13:57.17 | Somelauw | I was updating my Debian (testing) and now it wants me to configure SSDP. Can I somehow skip over that step, I don't know what to answer to the question what interface to listen to for UPnP queries. |
| 13:57.40 | abrotman | just answer it, and then go bakc and disable it after install |
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| 14:00.13 | Somelauw | I don't know what they're asking |
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| 14:03.11 | abrotman | Somelauw: just hit enter, then disable it |
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| 14:03.37 | abrotman | it's a daemon, asking which IPs to listen to connections from .. 0.0.0.0 is the default, which means all IPs .. |
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| 14:15.10 | JPHook | hello |
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| 14:16.22 | JPHook | I need some help, maybe I am missing a step. I have a RAID 5 Array with 6 Disks. One failed and I replaced it. Rebuild is complete, raid sais "active" and everything just works fine. |
| 14:16.31 | JPHook | After a Reboot, the new disk is gone, raid array is inactive and I have to do a COMPLETE rebuild again. |
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| 14:17.41 | JPHook | I removed the old faulty disk with mdadm --manage /dev/md0 -r /dev/sde, and added the new disk with "-a /dev/sde" after replacing the disk and made sure the new disk is also sde. |
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| 14:28.53 | Darkclaw | I am trying to install debian in a VMWare. It says installation step fields. the fail step is: select and install software |
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| 14:50.07 | Logg | Darkclaw, you can use the spacebar to select items, and the enter key to continue |
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| 14:54.13 | Darkclaw | I am trying it again this time with the i386 version |
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| 14:57.16 | Darkclaw | it's at the part where it says select and install software. it's going through installing them at some point it failed last time. maybe this time it will work |
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| 15:01.01 | kazdax | it happened to me too darkclaw |
| 15:01.06 | kazdax | make sure your ISO is intact |
| 15:01.15 | kazdax | and also try another time ..it happned to me to at the same step |
| 15:01.23 | kazdax | but i was installing on bare metal |
| 15:01.40 | kazdax | try to check sure the ISO is intact and also try another time |
| 15:01.51 | Darkclaw | a couple things I did differently. vmware said there's something I need to update/install for linux. I did that and also I am installing the i386 version instead of amd64 |
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| 15:01.57 | Darkclaw | hoping with those two changes, I'll be set |
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| 15:02.25 | kazdax | i dark claw are you using it as a exploitable system to learn hacking :) |
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| 15:02.49 | kazdax | no you should have retried doing it again ..with all the same settings |
| 15:03.04 | kazdax | because the exact same thing happened to me ..so its probably normal for it to fail at that step |
| 15:03.16 | kazdax | i re did the whole installation step as it was previously and it worked the secound time |
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| 15:04.12 | kazdax | also do an MD5 hash test to make sure the ISO downloaded properly |
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| 16:19.45 | zeffy | did dvwa work with php7 ? |
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| 16:34.56 | edju | running jessie. when printer stopped working, I installed hplip 3.16.11 from backports. for various reasons, I purged it and tried to reinstall 3.14.6-1+deb8u1. now I get "Depends: libhpmud0 (= 3.14.6-1+deb8u1) but 3.16.11+repack0-1~bpo8+1 is to be installed" and more. Any pointers, advice, solutions appresiated. |
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| 16:36.20 | Logg | try cups edju |
| 16:37.16 | Logg | edju, http://localhost:631/ |
| 16:37.17 | petn-randall | zeffy: Are you running Kali? |
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| 16:38.17 | edju | Logg, you mean install the printer with cups? but I still need hplip, no? |
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| 16:39.46 | zeffy | parrot |
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| 16:41.29 | vvor | Anyone using Radicale caldav in production? |
| 16:41.41 | Logg | don't know, haven't had the displeasure of dealing with hplip. But you can solve your package problem by getting rid of the package libhpmud0. It's still from backports, so the stable version you're trying to install won't work with in. |
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| 16:42.44 | OS-38194 | hi |
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| 16:43.08 | OS-38194 | just testing my oscp irc channel never used irc before |
| 16:43.23 | OS-38194 | bit of a n00b |
| 16:43.46 | Logg | enjoy your stay, but this channel is not for general discussion. it's for debian support questions & answers OS-38194 |
| 16:43.49 | OS-38194 | just preping my vm for the lab work |
| 16:43.59 | OS-38194 | ah k |
| 16:44.09 | OS-38194 | thought this was the oSCP channel |
| 16:44.14 | OS-38194 | laters |
| 16:44.20 | Logg | you can try #debian-offtopic |
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| 17:08.56 | hk238 | hi I have just installed Debian and I'm trying to setup audio (it's not working) I have asus xonar soundcard and I'm wondering what do I have to do.. Anyone know the solution? |
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| 17:14.58 | petn-randall | zeffy: Try the parrot channel then, anything other than Debian support is offtopic in here. |
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| 17:15.01 | petn-randall | !parrot |
| 17:15.02 | dpkg | Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 17:15.05 | petn-randall | !based on |
| 17:15.05 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 17:15.08 | petn-randall | zeffy: ^^^ |
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| 17:19.42 | zeffy | petn-randall, i fixed :D |
| 17:19.51 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 17:22.19 | petn-randall | zeffy: Yeah, by crossposting in the wrong channel. :( |
| 17:23.23 | zeffy | im not crossposting on oftc |
| 17:23.27 | zeffy | i did in freenode , true |
| 17:24.07 | hk238 | Oh well.. Sorry I can't remember the solution to this.. I think it was something to do with 'alsamixer'? :o |
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| 17:25.13 | mtn | hk238: how about pavucontrol? tried using it? |
| 17:25.41 | hk238 | that sounds familiar thanks I'll try that |
| 17:26.41 | Azrael_- | i try to recompile the kernel within a vm but whenever i try it, the resulting kernel won't boot. last try was compiling 4.15 with the config of config-4.15.0-3-amd64 which resulted in linux-image-4.15.17 and during boot i got this error: kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) can you give me a hint how to solve this? |
| 17:26.46 | hk238 | hm it's looking better there's an audio stream or something in pavucontrol |
| 17:27.36 | mtn | hk238: make sure to look at the output and config tabs, if needed |
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| 17:28.23 | hk238 | yeah I think the solution is probably changing something here |
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| 17:31.13 | mvaenskae-laptop | cheers, trying to make debian's installer work in an already partitioned environment with luks and lvm seems a bit difficult |
| 17:31.24 | hk238 | problem solved I had to go to alsamixer and change 'analog output' |
| 17:31.27 | hk238 | thanks for help |
| 17:31.50 | mvaenskae-laptop | can someone in here aid in getting through the step of correctly getting cryptsetup and lvm loaded so that i can continue the manual path on the partitioning setup? |
| 17:32.39 | mvaenskae-laptop | ah, fixed it |
| 17:33.19 | mvaenskae-laptop | depmod -a i overlooked after fetching from somewhere the cryptsetup and lvm components into the live medium (using anna-install) |
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| 17:43.11 | rant | what sort of graphical and very easy to use dvd ripping software is in stretch? |
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| 17:50.22 | stefanie_ | ehy guys! i have a question |
| 17:50.39 | mtn | just ask |
| 17:50.40 | stefanie_ | can i change the default directory to open when opening bash? |
| 17:50.58 | stefanie_ | like instead of /home/USERDIR something else like /media/usb_something |
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| 17:55.40 | rant | i am tryin to install stretch on a thin client and grub install failed console says warning core.img is unusually large and error btrfs doesnt support blocklists not sure what either of those mean |
| 17:55.54 | Azrael_- | if i compile my own kernel, how can i build the all the modules into a package to install them? |
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| 17:57.34 | rant | i suppose i could retry with ext4 if its the btrfs thats the problem i only used it cause the m2 ssd was already btrfs |
| 17:58.57 | bites | stefanie_: just create a bash alias for switching to that directory. alias gg='cd /media/whatever' and put it in ~/.bash_aliases |
| 17:58.58 | nkuttler | Azrael_-: package? |
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| 18:00.19 | Azrael_- | nkuttler: i build my kernel-package "make -j4 bindeb-pkg" but when i install the resulting kernel-package it seems to miss all kernel-modules. now i try to find out how to compile/package/install all of them |
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| 18:01.38 | nkuttler | !kernel handbook |
| 18:01.38 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
| 18:01.43 | rant | shrugs and retries with ext4 |
| 18:01.46 | nkuttler | Azrael_-: should be covered there i guess |
| 18:01.51 | nkuttler | rant: good choice |
| 18:02.10 | Azrael_- | nkuttler: thanks, didn't see this yet. reading |
| 18:02.58 | rant | nkuttler i dont trust newly supported fs usually just thought sint the hp thinpro used btrfs and debian supports it now id try it.. heh.. but doesnt seem to work |
| 18:03.37 | nkuttler | rant: i use btrfs at home on two disks without problems, but i've seen enough in production.. |
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| 18:04.48 | rant | yeah i been usin ext4 awhile now and seems as dependable and well supported as ext2/3 was so guess might as well stick with it |
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| 18:06.21 | rant | idk what those errors meant though seemed odd |
| 18:07.29 | rant | grub succeeded with ext4 on rootfs.. now i just gotta spend another 20min or so installin the desktop again.. |
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| 18:09.06 | rant | damn that booted in like 1 second |
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| 18:10.51 | rant | never seen a machine boot si fast |
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| 18:11.24 | rant | my damn tv dont even come on that fast |
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| 18:12.21 | maxcell_ | Buster has like a backport repository/ |
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| 18:13.01 | maxcell_ | buster have a backport repository/ |
| 18:14.10 | rant | there is not really a need for backports in a testig branch that recieves sid packages in days.. itll have backports when its stable |
| 18:14.46 | maxcell_ | rant, i just want a newer nvidia driver to test it out because i'm getting Tearing with 390 driver |
| 18:14.53 | maxcell_ | On Debian and on Ubuntu as well |
| 18:15.07 | maxcell_ | and i can't get rid of that with "ForceFullCompositePipeline" command |
| 18:15.14 | maxcell_ | strange.. |
| 18:15.24 | maxcell_ | this command always worked for me |
| 18:15.31 | rant | ,v nvidia-driver |
| 18:15.32 | judd | Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.111-4~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.111-4~deb9u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 390.48-3; sid/non-free: 390.48-3 |
| 18:15.43 | maxcell_ | can i install 375/ |
| 18:15.47 | maxcell_ | on buster |
| 18:16.07 | rant | the buster and sid have same version so a backport isnt possible |
| 18:16.15 | maxcell_ | true |
| 18:16.26 | maxcell_ | but can i install the stretch driver/ |
| 18:16.45 | maxcell_ | downgrade it |
| 18:16.53 | rant | if a newer version exists youd have to get it upstream |
| 18:17.51 | rant | why arent you running stable if you want your system to work and be supported here? |
| 18:18.13 | rant | you realize we dont support testing/unstable here right? |
| 18:18.29 | maxcell_ | i need a desktop and i'm looking for newer app packages |
| 18:18.40 | maxcell_ | buster is pretty up to date |
| 18:19.04 | rant | thats what backports are for |
| 18:19.04 | maxcell_ | not really seeking support i only ask and apt-get question |
| 18:19.25 | maxcell_ | you mean i can install like new kde/libreoffice with backports on stretch/ |
| 18:19.43 | rant | ,v libreoffice |
| 18:19.44 | judd | Package: libreoffice on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u11; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u7~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u9; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-security: 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11; jessie-backports: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u3; stretch-proposed-updates: 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u4; stretch-security: |
| 18:19.45 | judd | 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u4; stretch-backports: 1:6.0.2-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1:6.0.2-1+b1; sid: 1:6.0.4~rc1-4 |
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| 18:19.55 | maxcell_ | wow |
| 18:20.19 | maxcell_ | i never used backports repo in my life i don't know how to manage that properly but |
| 18:20.30 | maxcell_ | i think that's the only way |
| 18:20.34 | rant | yoy should akwats use stable and let us try help you work ariubd issues first |
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| 18:21.20 | rant | rather thsn testing our other branches without experience and expecting them to perform as stable |
| 18:22.10 | maxcell_ | dude i've always used testing |
| 18:22.25 | maxcell_ | only problem is nvidia tearing on 390 |
| 18:22.31 | maxcell_ | in my hardware |
| 18:22.48 | maxcell_ | other people have fix it with a command |
| 18:22.53 | maxcell_ | like i used to |
| 18:23.35 | rant | well thats fine but if you do it and dont know how to report bugs, live with issues until fixed and get support for it in roper location you do yourself and debian injustice |
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| 18:23.47 | rant | !debian-next |
| 18:23.47 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:23.55 | rant | !bts |
| 18:23.55 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
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| 18:25.40 | rant | its there to be used but for testing purposes.. and you should know how to do so if you use it.. asking about it here before a bug report and going to debian-next shows you dont know how |
| 18:26.29 | rant | or you just wanna reap the benefits of it before its ready for normal use and we sadly cant help you with that here |
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| 18:28.17 | maxcell_ | reap the benefits wtf |
| 18:28.59 | maxcell_ | you should ask some dollars for the system so you don't get mad when people use it |
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| 18:44.52 | mrrobot_ | why does i get such a low speed on my debian while dual boot |
| 18:45.10 | mrrobot_ | i get good speed while im running the same from virtualbox |
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| 19:08.34 | rant | there are people doin that hoewever our priorities are sclearly otluned in thw Social Contract and Why Debian docs and include open, free, stable.. etc |
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| 19:17.13 | cluelessperson | hey guys: this line in the debian preseed documentation isn't working |
| 19:17.14 | cluelessperson | echo preseed.cfg | cpio -H newc -o -A -F isofiles/install.386/initrd |
| 19:17.33 | cluelessperson | I'm not sure what type of archive initrd here is, so I'm not sure how to add this file to it |
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| 19:20.00 | cluelessperson | looks like cpio newc format |
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| 19:29.21 | cluelessperson | this cpio command is garbage |
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| 19:30.05 | bizhat | i am using debian 9, none of my post-up commands in interfaces get executed, any idea ? https://pastebin.com/raw/rDhzHYFL |
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| 19:36.07 | Logg | your netmask is weird bizhat |
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| 19:39.43 | bizhat | @Logg, yes, it is OVH, the provider need 255.255.255.255 netmask -> https://docs.ovh.com/gb/en/dedicated/network-bridging/ |
| 19:40.01 | Li | why debian box is 1GB swap while there is more than 5.5GB of free RAM? |
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| 19:41.11 | bizhat | @Logg i have similar config work on Ubuntu 16 and Debian 8 vms |
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| 19:42.05 | nkuttler | Li: why not? |
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| 19:45.51 | Li | nkuttler: why Yes? |
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| 19:53.00 | dax | if stuff gets moved to swap because the RAM is needed for other things, it isn't automatically pulled back until it's needed again |
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| 19:53.55 | dax | so considering that stuff that hasn't been touched in a while is prioritized when moving to swap in the first place, it's quite common for things to be sitting in there even if RAM isn't full |
| 19:54.55 | dax | in short, as normal for 99% of people pondering swap, time spent thinking about it is time wasted |
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| 20:04.40 | Li | dax: I'm one of the 1% that you're not considering and thank god for swapoff -a |
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| 20:11.16 | dax | Li: excellent, it's not often we have datacenter people come in here for swap help :) |
| 20:11.53 | dax | or perhaps embedded? bit of a dearth of them too, though |
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| 20:12.49 | alive876 | hi guys, can I and how do i change the install directory using gdebi? I want to install to en external ssd thanks |
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| 20:20.46 | mvaenskae-laptop | hm, how can i disable the use of nvidia as my primary gpu and use the intel igpu (desktop computer, i want to use the nvidia card for plain tensorflow related ops) |
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| 20:26.35 | esr1 | Just upgraded to 18.04 and can't find the session chooser in gdm3. Where is it hiding? |
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| 20:33.20 | jim | hi... anyone recognize this message: Background update loop checking for update. . . |
| 20:33.28 | somiaj | esr1: this is a debian channel, not #ubuntu |
| 20:33.44 | D4rkn3S | exit |
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| 20:34.40 | esr1 | somiaj: Sorry, only half awake I guess. Will ask there. |
| 20:36.38 | D4rkn3S | hi all |
| 20:38.16 | D4rkn3S | i have problem after update system and full upgrade, right mouse click not work, can anyone help to resolv this problem? |
| 20:38.55 | somiaj | you need to be more detailed, such as what desktop/wm/program you are using, and what you are expecting right click to achieve. |
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| 20:39.21 | D4rkn3S | i use it main system |
| 20:39.30 | D4rkn3S | Dell inspiron 15 5000 leptop |
| 20:39.45 | D4rkn3S | Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz processor |
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| 20:42.44 | D4rkn3S | any idea? |
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| 20:44.57 | mindcrimes | hi I'm running debian stretch and this app im using requires libssl1.0.0 |
| 20:45.02 | mindcrimes | how do I install it? |
| 20:45.13 | mindcrimes | libssl.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 20:45.32 | somiaj | stretch has a libssl1.0.0 libary you can install, but sometimes apps want the version from jessie |
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| 20:46.46 | somiaj | libssl1.0.2 will work in some cases, install that, manually make the link from libssl1.0.0. You can also install the libary form jessie, it will install and work in streth |
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| 20:47.30 | mindcrimes | where would I find libssl1.0.2's files? |
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| 20:47.44 | somiaj | the lib dir, like /usr/lib |
| 20:47.51 | somiaj | dpkg -L packagename will list installed files |
| 20:47.51 | dpkg | No packages found matching packagename will list installed files |
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| 20:51.35 | mindcrimes | aargh |
| 20:51.47 | mindcrimes | I did that but it still says |
| 20:51.51 | mindcrimes | No such file or directory |
| 20:52.25 | D4rkn3S | where can i ask about my problem? |
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| 20:58.38 | mindcrimes | ok I think I found the problem |
| 21:00.02 | mindcrimes | but now it wants libc6 (>= 2.7). |
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| 21:37.12 | zzUL | Hi, why my system create multiple files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files. |
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| 21:38.54 | zzUL | Hi, why my system create multiples files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files. |
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| 21:40.33 | zzUL | Hi, why my system create multiple files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files. |
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| 21:41.14 | zzUL | Hi, why my system create multiple files recently-used.xbel? I have various recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX files. |
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| 21:43.39 | hypn0 | did you click on them zzUL ? what came up |
| 21:45.10 | zzUL | The recently-used.xbel file is storage on ~/.local/share. |
| 21:46.23 | zzUL | hypn0: this file save a list of recently documents |
| 21:46.39 | jordanm | "It is also used by Nautilus and gedit of the GNOME desktop environment." |
| 21:46.40 | hypn0 | oh, I only got 1 file |
| 21:46.44 | jordanm | - wikipedia |
| 21:47.03 | zzUL | yes, the normal is that |
| 21:47.53 | zzUL | i have multiple files, example: recently-used.xbel.NU83HZ |
| 21:48.26 | zzUL | some recently-used.xbel.XXXXXX ---> XXXXXX are alphanumeric pattern |
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| 21:49.45 | hypn0 | what did you install? |
| 21:50.36 | zzUL | nothing special |
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| 21:51.00 | zzUL | hypn0: now i am on debian 9 mate fresh install |
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| 21:52.21 | zzUL | hypn0: what's the reason this behaviour? |
| 21:52.26 | hypn0 | https://askubuntu.com/questions/269858/how-do-i-prevent-the-file-recently-used-xbel-from-being-created ? |
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| 21:53.47 | zzUL | hypn0: oh, thanks. But i don't want prevent created this file |
| 21:54.15 | zzUL | because i need use recently files on my workflow |
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| 21:54.41 | hypn0 | you want to know why? |
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| 21:55.04 | hypn0 | they are created? |
| 21:55.34 | zzUL | nop |
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| 21:56.31 | zzUL | when i delete the recently-used.xbel, this file auto created |
| 21:56.48 | zzUL | but that is the normal behavior |
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| 21:57.15 | zzUL | the weird situation is the other files |
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| 22:01.39 | hypn0 | looks like some programs may have their own internal "recently used" lists. LibreOffice Calc seems to be one of them ? |
| 22:02.39 | hypn0 | LibreOffice Calc - I don't have that installed, I only got 1 |
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| 22:04.25 | zzUL | hypn0: LibreOffice has a own internal list |
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| 22:05.49 | zzUL | hypn0: i delete a recently-used.xbel and LibreOff... keep their own list. |
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| 22:06.39 | zzUL | hypn0: the other recently-used.xbel are a backup files? |
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| 22:11.14 | fasdfd | is there a way to rss subscribe updates to a given package in debian repos? |
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| 22:16.36 | batfastad | Hi everyone. Is there a way to define a static IPv6 address on an interface but tell it to use the prefix advertised by RA? So in interface config I just define the subnet id and host part? |
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| 22:26.50 | rypervenche | batfastad: It should happen automatically: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 |
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| 22:27.36 | rypervenche | batfastad: Oh sorry. YOu want a static address. You would want to use DHCPv6 if you want a specific address with your prefix. So that needs to be set in your dhcpv6 server. |
| 22:27.59 | Dagger | batfastad: via `ip token`. not sure if there's any support for it in /e/n/in |
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| 22:29.39 | rypervenche | batfastad: You can also get a temporary randomized host suffix if you're simply looking to not have your MAC address be in your IP. |
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| 22:33.37 | batfastad | Thanks for the info. I'm looking at server addressing here, so would like them to be relatively permanent. I'm not bothered about MAC exposure or privacy so much. |
| 22:34.27 | batfastad | I use SLAAC on guest/client networks and machines get 2+ addresses. EUI64 and a temporary used for outbound connections. That works well. |
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| 22:35.14 | batfastad | But the thing that freaks me out is a change in prefix, in my home lab environment this would be a house move etc and a network renumber. |
| 22:36.32 | batfastad | Since my router is sending RAs with the prefix and subnet ID, it would be ideal if all I had to do was hard-code the host ID part in my interface config |
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| 22:41.51 | batfastad | Dagger: Oh wow - ip token does what I need! Amazing, thanks! |
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| 22:59.58 | rypervenche | knowledge +1 :) |
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| 23:03.31 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 23:03.51 | tobiasBora | I need to change the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf in order to find a good snd-hda-intel option |
| 23:04.08 | tobiasBora | However, rebooting after each change is really annoying, and because of that I can't do lot's of testing. |
| 23:04.23 | tobiasBora | do you know how I could reload everything without rebooting? |
| 23:04.30 | somiaj | use modprobe -r to remove the module, then load ita gain |
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| 23:05.06 | dvs | tobiasBora, modprobe -r snd-hda-intel; modprobe snd-hda-intel |
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| 23:05.53 | tobiasBora | somiaj: dvs I always have errors like "modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use." |
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| 23:06.25 | somiaj | then remove the modules that are using it, sometimes you ahve to remove them in a specific order or chunks |
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| 23:10.51 | tobiasBora | somiaj: there is no way to unload all modules in one shot? I tried: |
| 23:10.53 | tobiasBora | for m in $(sudo modprobe --show-depends snd-hda-intel | grep -o "[^/]*\.ko" | sed 's/\.ko//'); do echo "=== $m ==="; sudo modprobe -r "$m"; done |
| 23:11.06 | tobiasBora | but the problem is that all the depends are in use |
| 23:11.12 | tobiasBora | hum |
| 23:11.16 | tobiasBora | maybe I don't want depends |
| 23:14.05 | tobiasBora | I tried sudo rmmod -f snd-hda-intel |
| 23:14.16 | tobiasBora | no error, but is it supposed to do the job? |
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| 23:15.14 | somiaj | use modprobe, it should only be a few modules you ahve to remove with the sound card |
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| 23:15.27 | somiaj | once you figure it out, you can write a small script to do it |
| 23:16.29 | somiaj | what does lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel output at paste.debian.net |
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| 23:18.45 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I'm installing Debian on one of my machines but I need ralink firmware for my wifi card. |
| 23:18.50 | Thedarkb1-X40 | What do I download? |
| 23:19.04 | somiaj | firmware-realtek package from non-free should have the firmware |
| 23:19.42 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I mean, the installer is asking for rt2870.bin from removable media. |
| 23:19.54 | somiaj | I usually sugest just dealing with wifi after the isntall |
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| 23:20.02 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I'm doing a netinst. |
| 23:20.05 | somiaj | ther eis aunoffical installer that contains the firmware |
| 23:20.06 | Thedarkb1-X40 | That's not really an option. |
| 23:20.10 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I |
| 23:20.16 | somiaj | it is, the netinstall contains a fully functional base system that doesn't require the internet |
| 23:20.19 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I'm using that but it doesn't have this specific firmware. |
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| 23:20.51 | somiaj | is the firmware newer than the installer has avaialble? |
| 23:21.03 | Thedarkb1-X40 | It's just not in the install image. |
| 23:21.15 | Thedarkb1-X40 | Do I just download the .bin and stick it on a flash drive? |
| 23:21.16 | somiaj | what image are you using? The realtek firmware should be on the unoffical image |
| 23:21.21 | Thedarkb1-X40 | Ralink |
| 23:22.00 | tobiasBora | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/1022496/ |
| 23:22.02 | somiaj | oh sorry, ralink...hmm, anyways you can provide the firmware on a second usb driver as per the install guide |
| 23:22.15 | Thedarkb1-X40 | What format though, .deb or .bin? |
| 23:22.34 | somiaj | I think both work, read teh install guide, it says what you need |
| 23:23.27 | somiaj | hmm, wonder if it is pulseaudio or something using the card that is calling it in use, I don't see any other modules depending on that |
| 23:23.42 | Thedarkb1-X40 | Oh, I was trying to install Debian on this X40 and the installer won't load my wifi module |
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| 23:24.05 | somiaj | tobiasBora: try killing pulse and other thigns that could be using the sound card. |
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| 23:24.08 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I tried lsmod | grep <mydriver> but nothing came up. |
| 23:24.26 | Thedarkb1-X40 | tobiasBora, sudo alsa force-reload? |
| 23:24.58 | somiaj | Thedarkb1-X40: I'm still surprised the ralink firmware isn't on the unoffical installer. But anyways, I would just install the base system, then copy the firmware over, get the wifi up, and finis the install |
| 23:25.11 | Thedarkb1-X40 | How do I finish the install? |
| 23:25.19 | somiaj | just skip the network install part |
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| 23:25.28 | Thedarkb1-X40 | Can I go back to it? |
| 23:26.03 | somiaj | I would just complete the isntall, then configure the wifi fromt he base system. |
| 23:26.13 | somiaj | but in expert mode you can move forward/backward through the install process |
| 23:26.22 | Thedarkb1-X40 | I've had to do that before. |
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| 23:36.42 | jelly | ,file rt2870.bin |
| 23:36.47 | judd | Search for rt2870.bin in stretch/amd64: firmware-misc-nonfree: lib/firmware/rt2870.bin |
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| 23:40.19 | jelly | logs of unofficial netinst creation suggest that package should be present |
| 23:41.19 | tobiasBora | Thedarkb1-X40: alsa is not a valid command on my system |
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| 23:42.59 | tobiasBora | somiaj: the thing is that pulseaudio autospawn and I'm not sure that I want to do that because anyway the rmmod command works great for the debugging I'm doing. |
| 23:43.11 | tobiasBora | So now I managed to found a "good" profile |
| 23:43.23 | tobiasBora | but there is a very strange bug |
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| 23:44.00 | tobiasBora | When I have nothing in the options, the intern micro does work, but not the headphones |
| 23:44.23 | tobiasBora | When I have dell-headset-multi, the head phones works, and the intern micro also works... except when I unplug the head phones! |
| 23:44.38 | tobiasBora | Any idea why, and how I could "mix" these two profiles? |
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| 23:50.56 | gabriel_ | I'running Debian in an old MacBook Pro, everything works fine, except for the bluetooth, that never find other devices. How do I know if the correct module is loaded, for example? I don't have a clue. "lsusb" shows 05ac:821a. |
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