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| 01:05.37 | mnuhmnuh | seanicus: i'm still trying to get over ifconfig is in /sbin, and nobody thought mere users would ever need to run ifconfig. like include /sbin in PATH? nah. |
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| 01:08.25 | seanicus | mnuhmnuh: yeah its weird it's not in the path, but anyone can execute it. 80K -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 78K Dec 26 2016 /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 01:13.08 | mnuhmnuh | seanicus: i know. and now with nm-applet (et al), we no longer even need ifconfig; gkrellm displays net activity for me far better than ifconfig ever offered! :-) |
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| 01:17.04 | annadane | is dpkg actually replaced by dselect or just temporarily down? |
| 01:17.09 | annadane | (the bot) |
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| 01:19.08 | annadane | oh it's actually in the channel |
| 01:19.12 | annadane | !don't break debian |
| 01:19.12 | dpkg | i guess dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 01:19.17 | annadane | never mind, works now |
| 01:19.29 | annadane | just not in OFTC |
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| 01:19.55 | seanicus | mnuhmnuh: is your nick in reference to that silly song? |
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| 01:21.56 | seanicus | this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjcb7w1Y-w |
| 01:22.25 | mnuhmnuh | seanicus: careful. we got kicked from #philosophy for singing that song when another guy asked that. |
| 01:22.43 | mnuhmnuh | great song! |
| 01:23.27 | seanicus | it's from a swedish mondo film but was popularized by sesame street. i like old oddities like that |
| 01:23.54 | mnuhmnuh | beats the crap out of seanicus, imho, hmuh! |
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| 01:27.37 | mnuhmnuh | sorry, don't listen to me, i'm flashing back to sesame st. (avoid), and trying to drag your psyche back to DOOT DO DO DO DO ... |
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| 01:30.53 | mnuhmnuh | are you aware the gov't is employing a purple dinosaur to ... your kids? |
| 01:32.37 | Guest36520 | hey everyone |
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| 01:32.42 | annadane | hi |
| 01:33.08 | kisser | i have a problem |
| 01:33.23 | kisser | my debian is assiging ipv6 |
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| 01:35.13 | Dagger | that's supposed to happen |
| 01:35.35 | kisser | without |
| 01:35.38 | kisser | lol |
| 01:35.40 | kisser | i didn't continue |
| 01:35.47 | kisser | without dhcp |
| 01:35.55 | kisser | or /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:36.05 | kisser | and it still assgining them from where i have no idea |
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| 01:36.37 | Dagger | that's also expected. the kernel handles SLAAC itself |
| 01:36.53 | kisser | how can i disable it? |
| 01:39.24 | blaztek | kisser: https://serverfault.com/questions/263976/is-there-a-way-to-disable-ipv6-slaac-on-a-per-interface-basis-in-debian |
| 01:39.31 | Dagger | there is net.ipv6.conf.*.autoconf, but if you use that and you have no DHCPv6 or static address then you're not going to have any v6 addresses |
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| 01:40.41 | PipeWelder316 | Dose anyone want to beta test a small game that I have been working on? |
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| 01:41.12 | Dagger | you generally shouldn't be putting yourself in that situation these days; if you're having some problem with v6 then the appropriate thing to do is to fix the problem, not try to hide from it |
| 01:41.16 | annadane | it's not really the channel for that, unless you want to package the game for debian |
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| 01:41.56 | PipeWelder316 | I built it in debian |
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| 01:43.54 | kisser | someone is asking |
| 01:44.07 | kisser | net.ipv6.conf.ens33.accept_ra = 0 |
| 01:44.09 | PipeWelder316 | asking what? |
| 01:44.20 | kisser | let me try to reboot |
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| 02:07.22 | k_sze[work] | Why do I see this in the output of `apt list --upgradable`? (I have the official docker deb repo added.) |
| 02:07.23 | k_sze[work] | docker-ce/stretch 18.03.1~ce-0~debian amd64 [upgradable from: 18.03.1~ce-0~debian] |
| 02:07.29 | k_sze[work] | I don't see any difference in the version string. |
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| 02:08.30 | annadane | it's possible - though i don't know - that the name of the package is that but the package is newer |
| 02:08.58 | annadane | hmm |
| 02:09.08 | annadane | maybe not |
| 02:09.10 | annadane | not sure |
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| 02:36.21 | themill | k_sze[work]: the output of "apt-cache policy docker-ce; apt-cache show docker-ce" might be enlightening |
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| 02:36.34 | themill | If they reused a version number this could happen. |
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| 02:52.20 | k_sze[work] | themill: how is version string reuse even allowed? Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of a version string? |
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| 02:55.43 | k_sze[work] | Looks like apt decides that the version from the online docker deb repo has higher priority (500 https://download.docker.com/linux/debian stretch/stable amd64 Packages) than the one from the offline .deb package (100 /var/lib/dpkg/status), and things it needs to be reinstalled, even though they have the exact same version string. |
| 02:56.02 | k_sze[work] | s/things/thinks/ |
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| 03:10.21 | devrikx | bitSt0rm: tyvm for your earlier reply. I was mind boggled, but ended up installing xserver-xorg-input-all - which did resolve the issue. I don't know why it was uninstalled - I initially did an apt-get upgrade, saw that there would be 49* packages held back and accidentally going ahead with the install instead of aborting and then doing dist-upgrade instead. |
| 03:10.25 | somiaj | k_sze[work]: 100 is the currently installed package, and so that most likely isn't the issue, what is the output of apt policy docker |
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| 03:14.06 | devrikx | bitSt0rm: I saw issues with nvidia driver as a result and did an uninstall of xserver-xorg-nvidia, before doing a reinstall of nvidia-driver...maybe the issue happened there, or with the partial upgrade. I also did an auto-remove before the dist-upgrade, both before I restarted, i'm chalking it off to simply not upgrading properly |
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| 03:25.21 | skizzy | can someone help me with a fresh debian install and opening ports? I tried in iptables but ports still showing closed with nmap |
| 03:25.52 | skizzy | I am writing a networked program and can't test it over network because i get "connection refused" I've tried to open the port by installing nginx and using port 80 but no go |
| 03:25.55 | somiaj | skizzy: debian doesn't have a firewall enabled by default. All ports should be open |
| 03:25.59 | dvs | skizzy, by default, all ports are not blocked. |
| 03:26.08 | skizzy | weird i can get to nginx default page if it's on |
| 03:26.14 | skizzy | but i can't use my program on port 80 |
| 03:26.19 | somiaj | sounds like your service isn't actually running on the outside interface |
| 03:26.33 | somiaj | bug in your program? |
| 03:26.43 | skizzy | It works local host but in python i'm doing socket.gethostname() as the host |
| 03:26.47 | skizzy | should bind to outside |
| 03:27.03 | somiaj | you can use ss (or the old netstat) to see if it actually bininding to the correct interface |
| 03:27.30 | skizzy | that was it I had to manually put in my ip |
| 03:27.35 | skizzy | as hostname on server socket. |
| 03:27.48 | somiaj | you can also use 0.0.0.0 to have it run on all ip's |
| 03:28.00 | skizzy | ah will remember that for testing |
| 03:28.23 | skizzy | cool it's working across the network as it did local! awesomee love when stuff works |
| 03:28.59 | skizzy | now I have a bunch of iptables rules to delete but i guess it's not persistent? |
| 03:29.13 | skizzy | it'll just wipe out when i reboot right |
| 03:29.54 | somiaj | Unsure there, maybe systemd has a service that will keep them persistance, you can easily flush the tables though |
| 03:30.32 | kcuf | pre-up in etc/network/interfaces or has that changed? |
| 03:30.35 | somiaj | i.e. iptables -F, and if you did -t nat, or -t mangle, you'd have to flush tat too. |
| 03:30.56 | somiaj | kcuf: you can still use /etc/network/interfaces as before. |
| 03:31.45 | somiaj | usually b default there is no preup scripts in the interfaces file, but you can put hooks in /etc/network/interfaces/if-pre-up.d/ (and other various directories) that I think run on all interfaces |
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| 03:34.25 | skizzy | i'll look into in a bit, got a bunch going on just hoping i'm not messing things up |
| 03:34.43 | kcuf | skizzy, so you can put your rules in a bash script in /etc/network/interfaces/if-pre-up.d/ or add pre-up directive (?) pointing to you bash script with iptables rules. |
| 03:34.47 | skizzy | I need to setup port mirroring in iptables too with mangle but dont' udnerstand it |
| 03:35.00 | skizzy | I want to sniff all network traffic on 1 machine |
| 03:35.07 | somiaj | kcuf: in this case, I think the question is if the system saves iptables rules by default or not. |
| 03:35.41 | kcuf | somiaj, oh ok. |
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| 03:36.19 | somiaj | and I'm not sure there. |
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| 03:37.17 | somiaj | ahh, I think it may depend on if the iptables-persistent package is installed or not, else one needs to use some iptables-save (unsure if that is the actual name) script to do it. |
| 03:37.39 | kcuf | that sounds like the right command |
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| 03:57.59 | jak2000 | i have 100 php files in a directory and subdirectories, some files have <? i need replace by <?php but some files have too <?php this files i not want touch... any advice, how to? is possible? |
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| 04:05.01 | nkuttler | jak2000: man sed |
| 04:05.22 | nkuttler | jak2000: see also #regex if you need help with that |
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| 04:47.22 | jak2000 | thaanks |
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| 05:02.01 | `whoami` | Hi, I'm running debian 9.4 from usb in persistent mode, but it seems writing rate is *really* slow (when I install a package, it's way slower than on some "usual" hdd). I already added the "noatime" option in fstab, but afaik it's only useful when files are read. What kind of things (if any) would you suggest to reduce writes on disk, and improve general speed ? |
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| 05:07.35 | karlpinc | `whoami`: Get a faster usb stick. The write rates vary tremendously. |
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| 05:09.47 | `whoami` | yeah, that would be my ultimate solution :) I'm already thinking about using lightweight applications instead of that big firefox and such. But I was wondering if any "system optimisations" could be done, as a start |
| 05:10.08 | karlpinc | `whoami`: "noatime" won't really help. The default is already relatime so the atime is only updated when the mtime is already being modified. |
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| 05:10.51 | `whoami` | ah, I didn't know that. Thanks for the hint :) |
| 05:11.47 | karlpinc | `whoami`: (your nick is a pain to type) You could use the regular hdd as a cache. This is done with lvm, but you might also be able to do it directly with md devices. Let me find you a link. |
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| 05:13.10 | karlpinc | `whoami`: Naturally, if you're caching you'd better be _sure_ the cache is flushed before the usb stick gets removed. Also, you need disk space allocated on the HD, which makes plugging the usb stick into different boxes and using it kind of annoying to setup. I imagine there'd be some setup. |
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| 05:14.58 | `whoami` | Actually there is no hdd in this laptop. And I might plan to leave it that way. -- sorry for the pain to write my nickname. Skip the ` if it makes things easier :p |
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| 05:16.01 | karlpinc | `whoami`: If I skip the ` then it won't autocomplete. |
| 05:16.39 | karlpinc | `whoami`: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmcache.7.html There is also dm-cache where you don't need lvm. But if there is no disk then... |
| 05:17.05 | `whoami` | i'll bookmark the link, just in case I change my mind |
| 05:17.13 | `whoami` | (thanks) |
| 05:17.47 | karlpinc | `whoami`: If you had more ram that would fix it too -- unless apt makes sure that the disk flushes before it finishes. Don't know about that. |
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| 05:19.23 | karlpinc | `whoami`: A "lightweight" application is not necessarly going to help with disk write performance. |
| 05:20.42 | `whoami` | well I mean an application that doesn't read a huge amount of files when starting, and which doesn't write to another huge amount of file at every action you make. |
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| 05:24.16 | karlpinc | `whoami`: Reading files is not your problem. Writing files is not affected by how "big" the application is -- just what it writes. A lightweight browser is going to write cookies and update history in the same way as a bigger application might. |
| 05:25.30 | karlpinc | `whoami`: The only difference might be what happens when RAM gets low. Use vmstat to see what's happening with that. (vmstat 1 or vmstat 10) More ram makes for faster. |
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| 05:29.43 | `whoami` | actually you're ... right. Your first suggestion (buying a faster usb stick) might, unfortunately, be the best option |
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| 06:50.46 | Sefid_par | I have upgraded to php7.2; Server is downloading php file instead of execute. What should I do? |
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| 07:06.49 | Sefid_par | somiaj: I've installed php7.2 from here: https://tecadmin.net/install-php-debian-9-stretch/ |
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| 07:07.09 | Sefid_par | I have Debian 9. |
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| 07:08.20 | Sefid_par | somiaj: Also I have webmin. Now whenever I open /index.php using browser, It shows blank page. index.php has "phpinfo()" command. At the other hand. I see noting in error log. |
| 07:09.08 | somiaj | Sefid_par: those are thrid party packages, you can try to debug them, or ask the creaters for support. |
| 07:09.32 | somiaj | sounds like some misconfiguation on your end due to how these packages are integrating with your system. |
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| 07:11.48 | jelly | !deb.sury.org |
| 07:11.48 | dpkg | Short instructions for sury's php deb builds can be found at https://packages.sury.org/php/README.txt |
| 07:12.13 | jelly | eh, those are just installation instructions |
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| 09:55.11 | aiRness | Hello, is quantum firefox going in on debian stable/testing at some point ? |
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| 10:00.33 | toruvinn | aiRness, probably, my guess is early 2032. it's too new otherwise. ;-) ;-) ;-) |
| 10:02.14 | petn-randall | aiRness: stable only gets LTS version, and it'll only bump to the next newest version if support for the current LTS runs out. |
| 10:02.38 | aiRness | ok thank you |
| 10:02.51 | k_sze[work] | Has anybody encountered an issue where vim 8 is very choppy in Debian Stretch? |
| 10:03.45 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: "choppy"? |
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| 10:04.14 | k_sze[work] | It would get stuck for a few seconds once in a while. |
| 10:04.20 | shtrb|laptop | toruvinn, at least not 2038 |
| 10:04.34 | shtrb|laptop | k_sze[work], is that only vim or everything ? |
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| 10:04.44 | k_sze[work] | shtrb|laptop: only vim |
| 10:04.52 | NetTerminalGene | is it possible to disable "evolution-calendar-factory" and related processes in stretch? |
| 10:05.03 | k_sze[work] | I haven't seen this choppiness in other commands/tools yet. |
| 10:05.38 | shtrb|laptop | NetTerminalGene, yes, but do you need evoluation ? |
| 10:05.48 | NetTerminalGene | shtrb|laptop, no |
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| 10:06.33 | shtrb|laptop | just uninstall it totally |
| 10:06.59 | NetTerminalGene | but isn't it dependencie of gnome? |
| 10:07.18 | NetTerminalGene | i want to disable them like a service |
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| 10:36.13 | TBC_Ly0n | Hi everyone. I have a weird issue on a Jessie box. NFS mount referenced in /etc/fstab does not come up at boot, but works fine with mount -a. |
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| 10:36.47 | TBC_Ly0n | I disabled allow-hotplug, I added _netdev,defaults,vers=4,noatime,x-systemd.automount to the mount but it does not come up. |
| 10:36.50 | TBC_Ly0n | What could I try ? |
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| 10:43.04 | blaztek | TBC_Ly0n: I think it's not coming up at boot because the network isn't up yet |
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| 10:43.35 | blaztek | anyway, does putting the mount command in rc.local work? |
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| 10:59.47 | TBC_Ly0n | blaztek: Let's try that to troubleshoot it... How can I have more logs on mounts ? I don't find anything relevant in /var/log related to my NFS mount. I have a special network setup (2 interfaces and one routing table per IP) |
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| 11:02.43 | helmut | what is the "canonical" documentation for upgrading postgres from one (debian) stable release to the next? I found a paragraph in /usr/share/doc/postgresql-$VER/README.Debian.gz, I found https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Using_pg_upgrade_on_Ubuntu/Debian, I found https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis/UpdatingPostGIS, I found that the release notes don't know and now I am slightly confused |
| 11:03.19 | petn-randall | helmut: pg_upgradeclusters is what you want to look at. |
| 11:03.55 | helmut | ok. I wonder whether we could document that more prominently somehow |
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| 11:04.10 | petn-randall | helmut: I don't know if there's good documentation out there, but the basic steps are taking the service offline, letting pg_upgradeclusters upgrade the clusters from the old version to the new one, and then adapting the postgres config of the new cluster (like changing ports) |
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| 11:04.40 | helmut | petn-randall: according to README.Debian.gz you forgot pg_dropcluster |
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| 11:05.55 | TBC_Ly0n | afaik, pg_dropcluster is not mandatory and may be run at the end of the migration when everything has been validated. |
| 11:06.28 | helmut | README.Debian.gz says you should run it before pg_upgradeclusters |
| 11:06.57 | TBC_Ly0n | blaztek: OK, in /etc/rc.local, the mount works fine... So, how to be sure the NFS mount occurs at the very end of the booting process? |
| 11:08.34 | blaztek | TBC_Ly0n: other than in rc.local, I have no idea...hopefully someone on here can help |
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| 11:09.22 | petn-randall | helmut: Depends on what you want to do... |
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| 11:10.48 | _abc_ | Hello. Where is the "default" debian build script / makefile for a package fetched as source and with supplied debian patches applied? Example: apt-get source mlocate; cd mlocate_0.26; zcat ../mlocate_0.26_*.diff.gz|patch; ./configure -> wrong file locations, wrong paths |
| 11:11.13 | _abc_ | I need to pass configure a handful of options to get it right. Surely there is a generalized makefile for this in debian? |
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| 11:12.31 | _abc_ | So, anyone, dpkg source building howto pointer, please? |
| 11:12.41 | petn-randall | _abc_: If you run 'apt-get source <foo>', it will already unpack everything for you. No need to unpack it again. |
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| 11:13.15 | _abc_ | petn-randall: I did not unpack it I applied the patches supplied in the unpacked tree to the source |
| 11:13.21 | petn-randall | _abc_: And Debian packages are not built with ./configure && make, they're built with 'dpkg-buildpackage'. |
| 11:13.43 | _abc_ | The spec file does not contain the spec for the paths for that package that I can see |
| 11:15.15 | themill | Debian does not use spec files |
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| 11:16.13 | _abc_ | debian/rules looks like it to me |
| 11:16.40 | petn-randall | ⦠|
| 11:16.59 | petn-randall | _abc_: You can just run it though, you need to use the tools around it. |
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| 11:17.29 | _abc_ | it errors out. Trying to understand why. Manual build does work |
| 11:17.37 | themill | "it" |
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| 11:17.59 | themill | _abc_: It would be easier to answer your question if you just asked it. atm you're providing what you think the answer is and then hoping we can guess the question and the rest of the answer. |
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| 11:19.57 | petn-randall | *can't |
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| 11:21.45 | _abc_ | I re-unpackaged the package and this time dpkg-buildpackage seems to work, apparently running it again after configure once causes trouble in despite of clean |
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| 11:22.15 | themill | if you do random things then clean isn't necessarily going to undo them |
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| 11:22.25 | p0g0_ | mrproper? |
| 11:22.28 | _abc_ | I sopke too fast. The build process fails on trying to sign the package |
| 11:22.47 | _abc_ | I did make clean, no mrproper, there are however other problems with the vanilla build |
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| 11:24.31 | _abc_ | I am trying to put in this patch I just made, which fixes a bug I found in mlocate: http://http://188.26.183.144:8888/w/mlocate-0.26-patch/ u:none p:none |
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| 11:24.40 | _abc_ | The patch was mailed to maintainer and author, no answer yet |
| 11:24.43 | TBC_Ly0n | I hate the way networking on Debian has been screwed up........... grrrrrrrrr |
| 11:24.54 | themill | _abc_: debian bug number? |
| 11:26.16 | _abc_ | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html reading |
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| 11:26.44 | _abc_ | themill: a bug number requires an answer by email. I don't have time for this game. I'll put the patch at peter5.50webs.com/free where my other patches are and people take it from there. |
| 11:27.05 | themill | _abc_: not going to happen then. Can't be that important to you |
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| 11:27.18 | _abc_ | So, in a nutshell, how do I avoid running the signing process in the package build? |
| 11:27.39 | themill | _abc_: -uc -us; or just ignore it |
| 11:27.39 | _abc_ | themill: great, it works for me, people know where to get it, enjoy your life. I can't afford to be a maintainer. |
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| 11:27.58 | themill | sending an email to the bts is not becoming the maintainer |
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| 11:41.51 | TBC_Ly0n | blaztek: I have several servers concerned by my issue. i just discovered that the issue comes when I have several network cards configured. |
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| 11:46.57 | Crash | Hi guys, Im facing a small problem running debian testing. It was nor able to find the battery. I already tried tthe following: the command acpi, change acpi=force on boot, there is not BAT[0-9] in the /proc/acpi/battery, dmesg | grep -i bat does not return nothing interesting. It a GPD Pocket 7.0 |
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| 11:50.50 | pseudonymous | Hi. I have an apt repository from which I want to install an older package. If I do 'apt-get install foo=<old-version>' it won't work, complaining that 'foo' depends on 'bar=<old-version>' but some slightly newer version is to be installed. I have a few dependencies like this. Of course, I could explicitly choose to install 'foo', 'bar' and other packages by supplying version numbers. But it seems dirty to me. Is there a better fix ? |
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| 11:51.17 | deface | hi all |
| 11:51.37 | deface | how can i install i3 without xorg? |
| 11:52.34 | colo-work | try `apt-get install --no-install-recommends <your packages>` |
| 11:52.37 | TBC_Ly0n | pseudonymous: If you can remove all "new" packages you need an old version for, you can pin them in /etc/apt/preferences.d |
| 11:52.53 | themill | deface: you ask that implying that the obvious solution doesn't work. What's not working? |
| 11:53.39 | deface | all is working ... but i try to save space on my litle harddisk! 0) |
| 11:53.43 | pseudonymous | TBC_Ly0n: actually, none of the packages which 'foo=<old-version>' depends on are even installed right now. It just seems to fail because apt seems to insist on installing more recent versions of these dependencies. So there is no way but to explicitly pin each package ? |
| 11:54.03 | TBC_Ly0n | pseudonymous: I think so. |
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| 11:55.13 | _abc_ | So debuild -b -uc -us is the correct way to rebuild in my case, withut signing, locally, from source, |
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| 11:58.39 | TBC_Ly0n | Why do my NFS mounts do not come up at reboot when I have 2 NICs configured ? With only one, it works . |
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| 11:59.30 | jolt | TBC_Ly0n: systemctl --all --state=failed, does it say that networking.services is started? |
| 12:00.23 | TBC_Ly0n | jolt: On this server, it's a Debian Wheezy (I know, it's old...) so no systemctl. |
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| 12:01.27 | jolt | TBC_Ly0n: Ah, right. Becuase I just had a server with two NICs, where one of them didn't come up (wrong ip octet), and then when I had "_netdev" on my mount, it wasn't mountedd |
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| 12:02.23 | TBC_Ly0n | jolt: I will check that on a Debian Jessie. I have several servers concerned by this NFS issue. two servers I'm looking at that issue now have 2 nics. |
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| 12:17.11 | TBC_Ly0n | jolt: on the debian 8, I have that: |
| 12:17.12 | TBC_Ly0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.12 | TBC_Ly0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.12 | TBC_Ly0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.21 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: show your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/fstab and output of "showmount -e nfs-server-name-or-ip" |
| 12:17.54 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: it vaguely sounds like nfs-common service is not running. |
| 12:18.17 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: also show the output of "ip a" and "ip r" |
| 12:18.22 | jelly | !paste |
| 12:18.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 12:18.44 | jelly | everything in a single pastebin if possible |
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| 12:20.33 | briner | does someone know what parameters can be given to the linux kernel and what they do ? |
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| 12:22.21 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/82f45963/ |
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| 12:24.22 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: This one is for the Debian Jessie box. On the Debian Wheezy box, I noticed that when I unconfigure eth1, nfs mounts work fine. |
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| 12:30.02 | plundra | Just did a netinstall of stretch, on a ipv6-only host. No problem what so ever with autoconf etc. in the installer; had to manually answer what nameserver to use. However, after reboot, autoconf sets address fine but there is no default route added. Any ideas why? |
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| 12:31.22 | plundra | Never used v6 and autoconf on Debian in the past; my first guess is that there is some helper package that wasn't installed but available during the install. |
| 12:31.29 | staircrusher | just do ip -6 route add default via ........ |
| 12:31.31 | TBC_Ly0n | plundra: Is it defined in /etc/network/interfaces or systemd ? |
| 12:32.25 | plundra | TBC_Ly0n: It's defined in interfaces yes, from the installation. |
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| 12:33.02 | plundra | TBC_Ly0n: An IP is set correctly and I can ping the GW (which I know the address of), but it's not set automatically as during the installation. |
| 12:33.28 | Dagger | manually setting networking config is kinda meh. autoconf exists for a reason |
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| 12:34.03 | plundra | Yeah yeah, I want to figure out why it's not set of course :) Just pointing out what works. |
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| 12:34.24 | Dagger | what IP do you end up with? is it from SLAAC, or DHCPv6? |
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| 12:34.51 | plundra | slaac |
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| 12:36.52 | Dagger | any network-manager/systemd-networkd/dhcpcd going on? I believe all three of those take over the in-kernel processing of RAs |
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| 12:39.54 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: so you have nfs server on 10.16.100.... and only the default route to reach that address. Where's the showmount? |
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| 12:40.27 | plundra | Dagger: No, expert installation and minimal packages. |
| 12:40.31 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: do you have failure of mount on both jessie nfs client and wheezy nfs client? |
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| 12:41.02 | TBC_Ly0n | jeddi: On the jessie, I have the error I mentionned earlier. On wheezy, I don't see anything in logs |
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| 12:42.22 | Dagger | the only ways I can think of for an RA processed by the kernel to set an IP but not a default route are: RA lifetime set to 0 (but the installer was fine), or net.ipv6.conf.*.accept_ra_defrtr=0 (but the default is 1) |
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| 12:46.47 | plundra | Dagger: Set to 1 etc. I'll have to look into this later. Will let you know when I figure it out. Thanks for the help/attention. |
| 12:46.49 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9b3a87a4/ <=== showmount |
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| 12:47.25 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: Manually, everything mounts correctly. When I have one interface set up, it mounts correctly at boot. When I have 2 interfaces set up, it does not mount anymore. |
| 12:48.02 | plundra | Dagger: Oh. Hmm. Tried ifdown / ifup'ing it. Seems to have worked now... Weird. Will have to do some more reboots etc. and test :) |
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| 12:57.26 | Dagger | plundra: weird. you might find `rdisc6` (in ndisc6) to be useful in debugging; it requests a new RA and prints any RAs you receive |
| 12:57.35 | Dagger | although it sounds like the RAs themselves are probably fine |
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| 13:01.43 | no_gravity | I wonder if all the stuff that is in github.com/git is also in the debian repos? |
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| 13:02.15 | no_gravity | For example, is one supposed to install this from github, the debian repos or some other source? https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/contrib/completion/git-completion.bash |
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| 13:04.40 | disposable2 | i would like to limit the IPs from which one user can ssh into my server. all other users should be unlimited. i've put this into /etc/ssh/sshd_config but it's not denying anything: "DenyUsers ansible@!10.1.1.1", "AllowUsers *". i am not forgetting to restart ssh. what am i missing? |
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| 13:06.26 | TBC_Ly0n | disposable2: If the user is using a SSH Key pair, you could restrict it in authorized_keys |
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| 13:08.50 | disposable2 | TBC_Ly0n: the tool that manages our authorized_keys does not support extra parameters. |
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| 13:10.18 | TBC_Ly0n | disposable2: which tool do you use to manage your authorized_keys ? |
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| 13:13.18 | karlpinc | disposable2: DenyUsers ansible@!10.1.1.1/32 |
| 13:13.24 | disposable2 | TBC_Ly0n: it's not important (and too complex of a problem). i simply wish to know what i'm doing wrong in sshd_config |
| 13:13.47 | karlpinc | disposable2: Dunno, that's what the sshd_config man page seems to say. |
| 13:14.25 | disposable2 | karlpinc: it still lets that user log in from other IPs |
| 13:14.44 | karlpinc | disposable2: What's the "!" doing there? What is your intention? |
| 13:15.10 | disposable2 | karlpinc: deny everything BUT that IP (for that username) |
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| 13:16.24 | disposable2 | karlpinc: that user has a passwordless ssh key so i want to limit where from that key can be used. |
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| 13:18.25 | karlpinc | disposable2: Sounds reasonable, but if the key pair gets out then it can be used by anyone with access to their ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file. I can't think of anything but ideally there'd be way to restrict access to the key rather than the user. |
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| 13:18.38 | TBC_Ly0n | disposable2: It's not related to your issue but can help me in my job as I'm trying to build a robust infrastructure for a customer right now. |
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| 13:19.08 | prosper881 | Bonjour! |
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| 13:21.04 | Peyam | hi |
| 13:21.12 | Peyam | does anyone know how I can disable hibernation |
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| 13:21.42 | karlpinc | disposable2: You can use Match to deny: Match Host !10.1.1.1/32 <nl> Deny ansible |
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| 13:25.44 | karlpinc | disposable2: Match is a little annoying, I find, because you have to do another match to turn it off. But that should work. Don't know why your Deny does not, except that maybe the ! syntax does not work after the @. |
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| 13:26.40 | knefrod | I'm having problems with xfce startup. After I type my password in LightDM, it takes about 40~45 seconds for xfce to appear (Debian is installed on an SSD). Starting the xfce session with startx takes ~1 second. Any idea? |
| 13:27.27 | karlpinc | knefrod: I think there's a debian bug report for that. Look for keywords like: X startup delay |
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| 13:27.44 | karlpinc | knefrod: bugs.debian.org |
| 13:28.15 | petn-randall | Peyam: Where exactly do you want to disable it? By default, a Debian machine doesn't hibernate. |
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| 13:31.37 | Crash | Hi guys, Im facing a small problem running debian testing. It was not able to find the battery. I already tried the following: the command acpi, change acpi=force in grub, there is not BAT[0-9] in the /proc/acpi/battery, dmesg | grep -i bat does not return nothing interesting. It a GPD Pocket |
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| 13:38.49 | knefrod | karlpinc: I didn't find any recent bugs about lightdm delay, everything worked fine till today on my system. |
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| 13:40.19 | bitSt0rm | Can anyone explain me what this means, screenshot of issue: https://ibb.co/dOJ7TJ |
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| 13:42.08 | dgp | bitSt0rm: it means whatever you are trying to install can't be installed because it depends on things that aren't available as far as apt is concerned |
| 13:43.02 | bitSt0rm | Hmm okay. To me it also looks like some conflicting nvidia drivers? |
| 13:43.50 | dgp | bitSt0rm: actually in your case it looks like you have a package that conflicts with the bpo version you're trying to install. You might need to remove nvidia-smi so the update can happen |
| 13:44.33 | bitSt0rm | sorry, bpo? |
| 13:45.12 | Fox | backports |
| 13:45.19 | dgp | If it were me I would use aptitudes UI. If you mark what you want to install and hit b it'll navigate to the first package that is broken and you can work from there on resolving it |
| 13:45.37 | bitSt0rm | Okay, will try that. Thank you |
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| 13:46.53 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: nothing immediately obvious there, sorry |
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| 13:52.22 | jelly | fix your tool? |
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| 13:57.00 | TBC_Ly0n | post-up command are related to an interface, am I right? |
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| 14:03.45 | Yo[w] | Hi, Is somoene can advice me about channel i can ask serious question about linux kernel, linux distribution with systemd and gnome? Because i have many serieous issues and i guess it's serious. |
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| 14:04.03 | Yo[w] | Thanks |
| 14:04.22 | RoyK | Yo[w]: for kernel, try #kernelnewbies @ irc.oftc.net, for distros in general, well, dunno |
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| 14:07.40 | dgp | kernelnewbies is only really going to be helpful if you are already digging into the kernel source code |
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| 14:09.11 | RoyK | thus the answer to "serious question about linux kernel" |
| 14:09.54 | RoyK | Yo[w]: if you have more general questions about the kernel, just ask |
| 14:10.02 | plundra | Dagger: Worked on first attempt after reboot now. I'll just hope it was a one-time thing on first boot or random glitch :) |
| 14:10.06 | RoyK | dpkg: tell Yo[w] about ask |
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| 14:11.01 | dgp | RoyK: He's talking about "serious issues" which I guess means something doesn't work with his setup and not "why is XYZ subsystem designed like this" |
| 14:13.33 | saldfajfl | I installed debian kde using a live usb on my desktop. But the graphics driver is broken and the system uses llvmpipes. My graphics card (Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e42] (rev 03)) should work without any kind of firmware but it doesn't. Even installing all the firmware doesn't solve the problem. I tried using the latest backported kernel and it still doesn't work. |
| 14:14.55 | saldfajfl | This graphics card works with Fedora 27 & 28 as well as Ubuntu 16.04 as well as 18.04. Should I file a bug report. |
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| 14:17.21 | RoyK | dgp: well, perhaps Yo[w] should ask outright about the issues, then⦠|
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| 14:17.44 | cosmicfires | I cannot figure out what the package the debian installer is in to make a bug report |
| 14:17.52 | petn-randall | saldfajfl: What CPU generation does that GPU belong to? |
| 14:18.12 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: I found the f!cking bug !!!! |
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| 14:18.41 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: I had 1 gateway line per interface... but I can have only one default gateway. that was messing all my network setup... post-up commands and nfs mounts... |
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| 14:19.28 | TBC_Ly0n | blaztek: FOUND !!!!! I had one gateway line per interface. The file can contain only one default gateway. Or it crashes everything... :-/ |
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| 14:19.59 | RoyK | TBC_Ly0n: you only want one gateway :þ |
| 14:20.13 | RoyK | TBC_Ly0n: if you want a specific routing table, write that |
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| 14:20.32 | saldfajfl | petn-randall: I think it belongs to core 2 generation |
| 14:20.43 | TBC_Ly0n | RoyK: That's what I did, but I didn't thought it could make such a mess ! |
| 14:21.24 | RoyK | TBC_Ly0n: how does your network look? could you explain, please? |
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| 14:22.02 | TBC_Ly0n | RoyK: Depending on the trafic I want it to go through an interface or another one; |
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| 14:22.12 | TBC_Ly0n | Both are totally routed. |
| 14:22.53 | RoyK | http://lartc.org/ is usually the source for such knowledge, but it seems to be down now |
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| 14:23.46 | RoyK | you can't do it with a routing table alone, lookup "man tc" or google it |
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| 14:24.22 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: oh lol, I did not even notice. Yes, you have gateway in both eth0 and eth1, don't do that :-) |
| 14:24.42 | TBC_Ly0n | RoyK: Yup, that's what I did, but I forgotto remove the gateway line... and of course, no log mentioning it has to be deleted. |
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| 14:25.33 | jelly | old versions of ifupdown will happily accept that and set up two default routes with same metric |
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| 14:25.45 | jelly | which Shouldn't Happen |
| 14:25.51 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: Yes, that's why I didn't spot it first... |
| 14:26.26 | jelly | but ip r did not show two default routes in default routing table |
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| 14:26.52 | jelly | (I bet it would have, on the wheezy system) |
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| 14:29.17 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: indeed, there wasn't 2 defaults gateways, the command failed and so, post-up command never ran... |
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| 14:29.33 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: and then, NFS mount which should happen after if-up.d scripts never ran |
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| 14:31.36 | jelly | TBC_Ly0n: that's just on jessie, or on both? |
| 14:32.06 | TBC_Ly0n | jelly: the NFS issue occurred on several boxes. Removing the second gateway fixed another issue about post-up commands ! |
| 14:32.16 | jelly | nod |
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| 14:34.47 | TBC_Ly0n | Still have that : |
| 14:34.49 | TBC_Ly0n | root@pwebsms006:~# systemctl --all --state=failed |
| 14:34.49 | TBC_Ly0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.49 | TBC_Ly0n | â mnt-STRA.mount loaded failed failed /mnt/STRA |
| 14:34.49 | TBC_Ly0n | â smartd.service loaded failed failed Self Monitoring and Reporting Technology (SMART) Daemon |
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| 14:35.04 | TBC_Ly0n | Yeah I know, no more than 2 lines... |
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| 14:35.07 | RoyK | dpkg: tell TBC_Ly0n bout pastebin |
| 14:35.19 | TBC_Ly0n | lol |
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| 14:43.28 | plundra | Dagger: And it's gone, the default route :) VEry weird. |
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| 14:46.52 | Dagger | plundra: it may be expiring, but you should be receiving RAs often enough to refresh it in time |
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| 14:46.58 | Dagger | assuming you aren't blocking them in a firewall |
| 14:47.52 | plundra | I'm directly against the ISP. Will do some further testing, won't use autoconf towards them later on, but rather use the prefix I have routed to me. Will see if it's the same under my own control |
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| 15:08.58 | RebelCoder | Guys, why would the following happen: files are in a folder, you run the .sh script and you get an error that files is not found? |
| 15:09.07 | RebelCoder | Like this: https://pastebin.com/4WNKvY1a |
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| 15:09.31 | kline | is https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing correct for stretch? I have stretch, have `deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib` in /etc/apt/sources.list, but cannot find it when trying to apt install. additionally, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/pepperflashplugin-nonfree doesnt indicate a page in the top right for stretch |
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| 15:09.49 | greycat | RebelCoder: most programs do NOT change directory to wherever the program is sitting on disk when they execute |
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| 15:09.58 | TBC_Ly0n | RebelCoder: File has not the good encoding. It has been coded under Windows environment |
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| 15:10.07 | TBC_Ly0n | RebelCoder: dos2unix may help you. |
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| 15:10.44 | gschanuel | hello! I have a list of packages I need to install. I would like to know if is there a way to "simplify" this list. For example, this two packages are in the list libsasl2-modules libssl1.1 but if I only apt install libsasl2-modules libssl1.1 will be installed as well, so I can simplify my list by removing it |
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| 15:13.06 | Paweded | what is this page? https://tinyurl.com/ya79dnx5 |
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| 15:25.48 | FinalX | ,v rbldnsd |
| 15:25.49 | judd | Package: rbldnsd on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.996b; jessie: 0.997a-1; buster: 0.998b~pre1-1; sid: 0.998b~pre1-1; stretch: 0.998b~pre1-1 |
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| 15:34.41 | Haohmaru | normally grub detects all kinds of OSes and puts them in the boot menu.. can it be told to hide some of them? |
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| 15:35.47 | cosmicfires | Haohmaru how do I report a bug with the grub installer in the installer? |
| 15:36.28 | Haohmaru | hm? why ask me? |
| 15:36.51 | padomay | does someone have the link for the amd-firmware for the audio card? |
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| 15:38.22 | cosmicfires | because you said something about grub I thought you might know |
| 15:38.44 | cosmicfires | there is no package "installer" or "debian installer" |
| 15:38.51 | Haohmaru | what bug? |
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| 15:39.19 | cosmicfires | if I change the partition table grub is not installed correctly and the system won't boot |
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| 15:39.43 | Haohmaru | change? to what? |
| 15:39.53 | Haohmaru | what .iso are you installing from? |
| 15:40.10 | cosmicfires | I removed the swap partition and changed the size of / and /var |
| 15:40.20 | cosmicfires | the 9.4 iso from the web site |
| 15:40.29 | Haohmaru | netinst or some live image? |
| 15:40.41 | cosmicfires | netinst |
| 15:40.55 | cosmicfires | I'll check to be sure |
| 15:40.57 | Haohmaru | which partition is grub installed into? |
| 15:41.04 | greycat | Normally NONE. |
| 15:41.21 | Haohmaru | oh, there's yer proper answers coming |
| 15:41.24 | cosmicfires | debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 15:41.30 | Haohmaru | goes back in the shadows |
| 15:41.40 | cosmicfires | I have the partition table I'll get it |
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| 15:42.12 | greycat | Please just describe the change you made, and the context in which you made it. |
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| 15:42.53 | cosmicfires | Model: ATA ST3000DM001-1CH1 (scsi) |
| 15:42.54 | cosmicfires | Disk /dev/sda: 3001GB |
| 15:42.54 | cosmicfires | Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B |
| 15:42.54 | cosmicfires | Partition Table: gpt |
| 15:42.54 | cosmicfires | Disk Flags: |
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| 15:43.03 | petn-randall | ⦠|
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| 15:43.12 | cosmicfires | oops |
| 15:43.22 | cosmicfires | that's the partition table after I modified it |
| 15:43.23 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: Check the /topic please. |
| 15:44.20 | cosmicfires | ok sorry |
| 15:44.22 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: We'll also need the complete output of 'fdisk -l', or whatever you ran. |
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| 15:44.34 | petn-randall | !paste |
| 15:44.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 15:45.32 | cosmicfires | I changed the partition table in the installer before it was written to disk |
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| 15:47.55 | cosmicfires | what else do you need? |
| 15:48.19 | cosmicfires | I believe I see the problem the efi partition is type linux, shouldn't it be msdos? |
| 15:48.32 | cosmicfires | I didn't do anything to that partition |
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| 15:49.05 | cosmicfires | I fixed the system with the rescue by installing grub without efi |
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| 15:51.16 | cosmicfires | http://paste.debian.net/1027287/ |
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| 15:53.10 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: You've installed in legacy mode. So there's no EFI partition. |
| 15:53.20 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: Are you trying to boot it in legacy mode, too? |
| 15:54.25 | cosmicfires | it boots in legacy mode now, I fixed it |
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| 15:54.45 | cosmicfires | I'm trying to help others, I didn't modify the efi partition |
| 15:55.05 | greycat | If you're booting in legacy mode, the EFI partition is unused. Or should be unused. Or shouldn't exist at all. |
| 15:55.07 | cosmicfires | that happened because I removed the swap partition and changed the size of / and /var |
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| 15:55.31 | cosmicfires | I didn't select boot in legacy mode, I let the installer do it |
| 15:55.51 | greycat | More likely it happened because you're installing onto a disk that wants to boot in legacy mode but you launched the installer in UEFI mode. |
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| 15:56.22 | cosmicfires | the bios tells it to boot in UEFI mode correct? |
| 15:56.41 | cosmicfires | I was confused for a day about why it wouldn't boot |
| 15:56.41 | greycat | They love to give us our work PCs configured that way -- a legacy mode Win7 disk in a UEFI system. You have to force the Debian CD to boot in Legacy mode for it to work. |
| 15:57.15 | cosmicfires | I didn't change the boot mode in the installer |
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| 15:57.32 | cosmicfires | and the installer made a EFI partition |
| 15:57.39 | jelly | arguably the install should figure out how it booted, not what the system supports in theory |
| 15:57.44 | jelly | installer* |
| 15:57.59 | cosmicfires | or at least tell you so you know what happened |
| 15:58.15 | jelly | especially if there's an OS already there |
| 15:58.22 | cosmicfires | it works now after I installed grub from the rescue dvd in legacy mode |
| 15:58.29 | greycat | The stretch installer did make some improvements in this area. Now it actually says "UEFI" somewhere at the top of one of the screens so you know that it booted in UEFI mode. |
| 15:58.30 | cosmicfires | there is no other OS on the disk |
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| 15:58.44 | cosmicfires | I wiped the disk with badblocks before the install |
| 15:59.12 | cosmicfires | I knew it booted in UEFI mode, I intended to use it |
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| 16:00.43 | cosmicfires | when I changed the partition table in the installer something got messed up |
| 16:02.02 | cosmicfires | there was no directory for the efi partition in /boot after the install |
| 16:02.30 | greycat | WHEN did you change the size of the / partition? |
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| 16:03.13 | cosmicfires | before the install started in the installer, the first time you can change the partition table |
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| 16:03.48 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: That is because it was started in legacy mode. |
| 16:04.09 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: You need to double-check your EFI setup that compat mode is also disabled, it's usually a separate option. |
| 16:04.21 | cosmicfires | in the bios options? |
| 16:04.47 | cosmicfires | seems like the install should still boot when it's done |
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| 16:06.49 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: It's physically impossible to touch the EFI system partition if you boot in legacy mode, that's what the EFI bios is supposed to protect from. |
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| 16:07.09 | cosmicfires | so it's a bios issue? |
| 16:07.18 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: I agree it's annoying and also confusing, but there is nothing the installer can do about it. |
| 16:07.24 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: No, it's a user issue. |
| 16:07.40 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: You need to know that these settings exist and configure them properly. |
| 16:08.31 | cosmicfires | a explanation somewhere would help, I searched for "debian install won't boot" and didn't find it |
| 16:08.43 | greycat | that's just WAY too vague |
| 16:08.46 | cosmicfires | I understand now |
| 16:09.03 | cosmicfires | that would explain why I didn't find anything helpful |
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| 16:09.46 | cosmicfires | I assumed however the system booted the install iso it would boot after it was insatlled |
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| 16:10.14 | greycat | You keep claiming that the installer booted in UEFI mode and petn-randall keeps claiming that it booted in Legacy mode. |
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| 16:10.40 | cosmicfires | I may be confused, the installer made an efi partition |
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| 16:17.58 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: From what you showed us, it did not create one. |
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| 16:18.54 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: Consult the motherboard manual on how to set "uefi only" mode, and disable other settings like secure boot and 'CSM support'. Then do a clean reinstall. |
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| 16:19.29 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: To be safe, check that the installer is booted in UEFI mode, because judging from the created partition layout it booted in legacy mode. |
| 16:19.31 | cosmicfires | my system boots in legacy mode so all is well now, I'll note that for the future |
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| 16:19.53 | n0ot | apt |
| 16:19.57 | n0ot | tyler |
| 16:20.00 | cosmicfires | I see what went wrong now but shouldn't the system have booted after it was installed? |
| 16:20.07 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: That also works, you just have to keep in mind that you can't switch back and forth, otherwise it would make it unbootable. |
| 16:20.15 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: No. |
| 16:20.15 | n0ot | apt |
| 16:20.41 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: If you booted the installer in legacy mode, and your BIOS boots the installation in EFI mode, it will fail. |
| 16:20.51 | petn-randall | n0ot: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 16:21.03 | cosmicfires | I understand now |
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| 16:21.41 | cosmicfires | I fixed it by booting the rescue dvd and running grub-install sda |
| 16:21.49 | cosmicfires | now it boots |
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| 16:22.54 | petn-randall | cosmicfires: Cool! Glad it worked out for you. |
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| 17:08.25 | ukine | o/ |
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| 17:12.26 | Laurenceb | hi, is it possible to edit dependencies in a .deb file? |
| 17:13.23 | greycat | What are you *really* trying to do? |
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| 17:13.40 | Laurenceb | I need to install libqgpsmm on linux mint |
| 17:13.45 | greycat | !Mint |
| 17:13.45 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 17:13.50 | Laurenceb | causing dependency hell |
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| 17:17.54 | petn-randall | Laurenceb: Try asking in their support channel, see above. ^^^ |
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| 17:18.01 | Laurenceb | ok |
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| 17:48.20 | knefrod | I'm having troubles with my Debian machine boot times. After entering user name and password the screen get stuck on the Display Manager background for 40-45 seconds before loading xfce. I've tried everything: I got rid of lightdm for lxdm and I even switched from Systemd to SysV. I've just discovered that the problem is Network Manager, if I disable it the machine starts in 4-5 seconds. |
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| 17:48.45 | greycat | knefrod: 4.16 kernel? |
| 17:48.53 | knefrod | Yes |
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| 17:50.18 | greycat | knefrod: you can start here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/05/msg00599.html |
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| 17:52.15 | knefrod | greycat: Thanks, i'll try |
| 17:52.50 | argwings | hi there, quick question. does anyone happen to know if xorg-server 1.20 will make it to stretch? |
| 17:52.59 | greycat | !stable |
| 17:53.00 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or version-bumped, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Stretch (9.x); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 17:53.17 | argwings | okay :) |
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| 17:59.59 | knefrod | greycat: It worked. I almost reinstalled the whole system and the solution was pressing random keys on boot. |
| 18:00.41 | peturvilj | My X11 server does not start anymore with the nouveau driver (for nvidia old card) and I would need some help to debug. |
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| 18:05.08 | greycat | peturvilj: sid? buster? |
| 18:06.10 | peturvilj | @greycat sid It is a new upgrade which broke X11 |
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| 18:06.17 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 18:06.18 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:07.02 | peturvilj | I have an error "xf86EnableIOPorts: Failed to set IOPL for I/O" |
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| 18:08.07 | greycat | In sid? |
| 18:08.11 | peturvilj | @greycat ok I join #debian-next |
| 18:08.35 | jelly | on that other irc server. |
| 18:08.38 | peturvilj | Must be invited? |
| 18:08.44 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 18:08.45 | jelly | irc.oftc.net, peturvilj |
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| 18:09.17 | jelly | not the same as irc.freenode.net, the network you're talking on |
| 18:09.38 | jelly | reading is HARD! |
| 18:10.39 | jelly | perhaps that factoid needs OFTC mentioned a couple dozen times more |
| 18:11.29 | jelly | dpkg, debian-next is also oftc OFTC oftc oftc OFTC? Invite? Oftc oftc malkovich oftc. |
| 18:11.29 | dpkg | is also oftc OFTC oftc oftc OFTC? Invite? Oftc oftc malkovich oftc.: #debian-next is a channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 18:11.45 | jelly | facepalms |
| 18:11.53 | greycat | someone made a cmd: debian-next? |
| 18:12.29 | greycat | dpkg, literal cmd: debian-next (.*?) |
| 18:12.30 | dpkg | "cmd: debian-next (.*?)" is "($1): <reply>$1: #debian-next is a channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net)." |
| 18:12.37 | greycat | what is the point of that? |
| 18:13.20 | jelly | dpkg, debian-next =~ s/net\./net. oftc OFTC oftc oftc OFTC? Invite? Oftc oftc malkovich oftc./ |
| 18:13.21 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'net\.', jelly |
| 18:13.27 | jelly | dpkg, debian-next =~ s/net./net. oftc OFTC oftc oftc OFTC? Invite? Oftc oftc malkovich oftc./ |
| 18:13.28 | dpkg | OK, jelly |
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| 19:05.20 | ikus060 | Hello, we have about ~ 50 servers (physicals, virtual, ipmi, etc.) I want to define a strategy to manage the root/admin password. Cause today some password are identical while other are completely random. I'm thinking about 2 different strategy: 1. Generate long random password different for each server and store them in a vault. 2. Generate a single password for all server and change it every 90 days. What are your tough |
| 19:05.20 | ikus060 | about this ? |
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| 19:05.58 | annadane | well, my uneducated opinion is identical passwords = one point of failure |
| 19:06.19 | annadane | this is why people use things like password managers |
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| 19:06.57 | greycat | One question you must ask yourself is who/when/where are the root passwords going to be used? Are you allowing root ssh logins with password? Are you allowing su? Or is the password only usable on the physical console in the case of emergency? |
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| 19:09.21 | ikus060 | greycat: depends, Admin IPMI is clearly available via web interface. We don't allow root via ssh. But we do allow "su" in case of emergency. Because most of the time, people are using sudo is required. |
| 19:09.49 | ikus060 | root may also be used on console (via IPMI) in case of emergency |
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| 19:31.01 | jelly | ikus060: 1, and you only have to change them when one of your admin people finds a better job |
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| 19:35.43 | mutante | planet.debian.net uses an invalid security certificate. |
| 19:35.44 | mutante | The certificate is only valid for www.debian.org |
| 19:35.51 | mutante | ^ if that was fixed, i'd use https to link to it |
| 19:36.06 | mutante | want a ticket somewhere? |
| 19:36.16 | mutante | should i tell on the other irc network? |
| 19:36.44 | greycat | Welcome to planet.debian.net! |
| 19:36.44 | greycat | This is the old name for the Debian blog aggregator, now at planet.debian.org. Please update any links or bookmarks to use the current URL. |
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| 19:39.54 | mutante | greycat: oh, thanks :) will do |
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| 20:12.28 | alipoor90 | Hi, when i want to make a new UEFI virtual machine using virt-manager i get this error: https://pastebin.com/4Ypbw6hT |
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| 20:17.53 | daegontaven | hi, i'm having an issue where my debian just freezes |
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| 20:18.18 | daegontaven | and |
| 20:18.31 | daegontaven | wtf |
| 20:18.38 | Sveta | daegontaven: when,how? |
| 20:18.46 | daegontaven | wierd |
| 20:19.21 | annadane | daegontaven, what desktop environment are you running and what graphics card? |
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| 20:22.06 | annadane | daegontaven, additionally, look in .xsession-errors |
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| 20:26.07 | jhutchins_wk | daegontaven: What release do you have? |
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| 20:35.30 | useless-eater | http://paste.debian.net/1027290/ should I start looking for another nvidia card, or could this be a buggy driver? Using the nvidia-common packaged for debian stretch? |
| 20:35.40 | useless-eater | Got a "NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 960] (rev a1)" |
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| 20:36.17 | annadane | nvidia is *always* buggy. :/ |
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| 20:37.36 | useless-eater | Seems like setting the "Color space" to "YCbCr444" instead of "RGB" removes the annoying purple thin stripes that flash random places on screen |
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| 20:39.17 | useless-eater | tweaking randomly in the nvidia-settings menus |
| 20:40.25 | useless-eater | are the ati cards better for linux? |
| 20:40.54 | annadane | yes they are |
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| 20:41.25 | annadane | nvidia is not open-source friendly, AMD is |
| 20:42.27 | useless-eater | ok thanks :) |
| 20:42.53 | annadane | that said, that doesn't answer your question |
| 20:42.58 | annadane | it's possible your issue is soluable |
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| 20:45.17 | davidc_ | I'm running debian stable, and recently installed an AMD Radeon 570... |
| 20:45.39 | davidc_ | I have 2 monitors, |
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| 20:46.03 | davidc_ | and I can't seem to make it do anything other than mirror my screen |
| 20:46.35 | davidc_ | I have the firmware-amd-graphics package installed |
| 20:47.16 | davidc_ | but I get a message on boot saying that it can't load /lib/firmware/amdgpu/polaris10_mc.bin |
| 20:47.21 | davidc_ | which does exist |
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| 20:48.07 | davidc_ | any pointers? |
| 20:49.41 | davidc_ | hmm, I did not run update-initramfs |
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| 20:57.25 | slidinghorn | I seem to have somehow disabled my wifi - Have a minimal debian setup using wicd, and internet dropped while watching a youtube video after I did "killall signal-desktop" due to an error I was having with that. Now wicd doesn't even detect networks anymore |
| 20:58.13 | slidinghorn | I've toggled the wifi on/off (Fn+F12) with no effect |
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| 21:01.05 | jhutchins_wk | slidinghorn: Have you tried restarting X, or rebooting? |
| 21:01.56 | jhutchins_wk | slidinghorn: Fn keys are notoriously badly supported, if you don't have a physical switch it probably didn't do anything. |
| 21:02.30 | jhutchins_wk | slidinghorn: Also, why in this day and age are you using wicd instead of Network Manager? |
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| 21:03.01 | slidinghorn | ugh - So I restarted once, and it wasn't detecting - it had given a message about waiting for ifup when I did. Just restarted agaain to see if I could get that message to give y'all, and the damn wifi turned on and worked. o.O |
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| 21:08.07 | slidinghorn | to answer the wicd question - habit. |
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| 21:20.05 | Deknos | is there a debian package with a simplified bsd 2clause license? |
| 21:20.10 | Deknos | i want to look at something :D |
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| 21:54.56 | zW | Hi |
| 21:55.20 | zW | I have a box running apache2.4 with php-fpm, I see a very slow time to first byte. |
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| 21:55.41 | zW | It is not apache related as static files are served very quickly |
| 21:56.05 | zW | When i strace fpm, I see 72% of the time spend in epoll_wait (338 calls) |
| 21:56.39 | zW | Can someone explain what epoll_wait actually is? I guess it is waiting for IO? |
| 21:56.57 | zW | (As we are using NFS, and I guess the bottleneck sits there) |
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| 21:58.34 | ikanobori | That's what it does yes. |
| 21:58.52 | ikanobori | In general epoll is used to wait for I/O events. |
| 21:59.04 | ikanobori | And if you have NFS that might make sense. |
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| 21:59.21 | ikanobori | But you'll have to look a bit deeper to see what is actually waiting for :) |
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| 22:02.20 | ikanobori | zW: If I take the wildest of guesses in the history of wild guesses you have a PHP application that is doing its own sessions and storing them in a directory which is on the NFS and it's trying to acquire locks. |
| 22:02.24 | ikanobori | But... wild guess. |
| 22:02.47 | Tenkawa | whats happening? |
| 22:03.11 | Tenkawa | walked into this one with no info |
| 22:03.27 | Tenkawa | but it sounds intriguing |
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| 22:03.50 | ikanobori | Oh someone saw their apache that's serving some php on nfs spending a load of time in epoll_wait. |
| 22:04.05 | Tenkawa | ahhh |
| 22:04.20 | Tenkawa | yeah nfs is not apache friendly without some tuning |
| 22:04.41 | ikanobori | It's also not very friendly to applications that store stuff on the filesystem while ignoring it might be networked. |
| 22:04.46 | ikanobori | Especially if those try to acquire locks. |
| 22:04.47 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 22:05.20 | Tenkawa | even worse with dbs |
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| 22:15.38 | c-c | Anyone else have funny stuff happening when dual screen + full screen video in one screen? For me the other screens buffer seems to go back and forth in history. Happens with both in-browser fullscreen video and VLC. Doesn't happen with mkv player. |
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| 22:28.11 | touchiz | Hi |
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| 22:28.32 | touchiz | i have a question, it's possible to download a file via PuTTY ? |
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| 22:28.46 | touchiz | directly on my computer |
| 22:29.53 | careta | I had to upgrade some packages to testing on my server, but now I want to downgrade them back to stable. what's an easy way to do that? |
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| 22:31.27 | touchiz | apt-get remove package && apt-get autoremove && apt-get install package |
| 22:31.32 | touchiz | careta |
| 22:31.34 | touchiz | :p |
| 22:31.58 | Kelsar | touchiz: use something like filezilla or winscp via sftp or scp |
| 22:32.05 | careta | touchiz, I don't want to do it package by package, there are lots of them, pulled automatically by aptitude |
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| 22:34.35 | touchiz | Kelsar , yes i now this, but i want to know if it's possible to dl directly via putty, This is to avoid opening 2 programs. |
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| 22:47.47 | Zathras | Hi. I am looking for a python module already in Debian to create & write docx (MS Word) files. Any pointers? |
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| 22:52.04 | Nautilus | does the channel have a preferred paste site? Have questions about sources.list |
| 22:52.19 | Unit193 | LIkely paste.debian.net |
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| 22:55.16 | Nautilus | paste.debian.net/1027356 ... there's how my sources.list looks now, but I need to add something like ppa:ondrej/php - I'm not sure how to do that or if I have too much stuff in sources.list |
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| 22:55.51 | c-c | Nautilus: some like to use synaptic |
| 22:55.53 | Zathras | Nautilus, ppa is Ubuntu specific |
| 22:56.09 | c-c | yes you can't use ppa's with debian |
| 22:56.12 | Nautilus | thats the kind of stuff I'm stuck on |
| 22:56.24 | Nautilus | trying to install php7.2 |
| 22:56.42 | Zathras | why? |
| 22:56.56 | Nautilus | becuase its part of a lamp stack? |
| 22:57.22 | Zathras | also consider adding non-free and contrib |
| 22:57.32 | dondelelcaro | Nautilus: php7.2 is in testing and unstable, but not stable. Is there some reason why 7.0 won't work? |
| 22:57.35 | Zathras | why, php7.0 is not? |
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| 22:58.09 | dondelelcaro | Nautilus: if you really need php7.2, you can backport it, but it won't get automatic security updates |
| 22:58.22 | Nautilus | oh 7.0 still preferred? Will do that then. I see I only added non-free and contrib to one line... put it on all? |
| 22:58.55 | c-c | You could also just install 7.2 from testing |
| 22:58.57 | dondelelcaro | Nautilus: you can just install php, and that'll install whatever the default version of php is currently |
| 22:58.59 | Nautilus | <- looking for stable version, was under the impression 7.2 was |
| 22:59.05 | c-c | well, you could try |
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| 22:59.27 | Nautilus | so would this do?: apt install php php-mysql ? |
| 22:59.31 | c-c | OR, you could make it into a .deb, and use dpkg to install that deb |
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| 22:59.55 | dondelelcaro | c-c: you can't directly install the version from testing without partially upgrading to testing |
| 23:00.09 | dondelelcaro | (you'll have to at least upgrade libc6, and probably a bunch of other libraries too) |
| 23:00.10 | c-c | I do not agree, dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.29 | c-c | To install packages from testing, you need to add testing repos to your sources.list, and specify testing target (apt-get install -t or similar) |
| 23:00.41 | Zathras | c-c, not the best advice imho, unless you know what you are doing as you are bringing the system in an unsupported/tested state |
| 23:00.44 | dondelelcaro | c-c: yes, and if you do that, you'll end up with a libc6 from testing too. |
| 23:00.51 | c-c | To compile a package into a .deb, well you could google that. |
| 23:01.07 | Zathras | apt-get install fubar |
| 23:01.13 | dondelelcaro | c-c: because php7.2-cgi depends on libc6 >= 2.27, which is only in testing. |
| 23:01.15 | c-c | The real problem here would probably be Apache and other dependencies. |
| 23:01.16 | Nautilus | keeping it simple, this should get me 7.0?: apt install php php-mysql |
| 23:01.23 | dondelelcaro | Nautilus: yes. |
| 23:01.33 | c-c | Nautilus: yes sounds like a nice simple idea |
| 23:01.51 | c-c | Nautilus: supposedly you have installed Apache and plan to use it... |
| 23:02.02 | dondelelcaro | you don't have to have apache installed to use php... |
| 23:02.25 | Nautilus | apache is next... |
| 23:03.51 | c-c | well traditionally php is an Apache module |
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| 23:04.36 | Nautilus | php7.0 is installed. so now "apt install apache2 libapache2-mod-php7.0" ? |
| 23:04.55 | dondelelcaro | Nautilus: just libapache2-mod-php |
| 23:05.03 | Nautilus | gotcha |
| 23:05.17 | dondelelcaro | (assuming you want the mod_php install; sometimes fcgi or cgi is the right way, depending on what you're doing) |
| 23:05.35 | c-c | apache2-utils and -doc may be useful |
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| 23:06.32 | Nautilus | yay, lamp stack done! |
| 23:07.06 | c-c | well you may need to look into /etc/apache2/ once or twice... |
| 23:07.24 | Nautilus | not sure about fcgi or cgi, I think mod_php is what I've done in the past. Local dev box |
| 23:08.07 | Nautilus | i have the default apache page on localhost, do need to setup a virtual host but that's more familiar to me... I only setup a new lamp stack every couple years |
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| 23:09.13 | c-c | Nautilus: did you create a phpinfo -page to see if php works? |
| 23:10.05 | Nautilus | next step :) |
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| 23:11.08 | Nautilus | thanks guys! |
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| 23:28.08 | shakes808 | Hello everyone. I installed Debian Stretch on a Toshiba laptop and when shutting down, it just hangs. I looked in `/var/log/syslog` but didn't see anything there. Where else should I look? |
| 23:29.14 | c-c | shakes808: can you try: $ sudo ls /var/log/sysl* |
| 23:30.19 | shakes808 | c-c: syslog and syslog.1 |
| 23:30.37 | c-c | shakes808: so, how about reading syslog.1 |
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| 23:31.07 | c-c | shakes808: f.ex. scroll down with pagedown when $ sudo more /var/log/syslog.1 |
| 23:31.40 | c-c | uh, sorry, more doesn't support pagedown, its space |
| 23:32.05 | c-c | shakes808: anyway you may be able to find errors on the last lines |
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| 23:37.38 | shakes808 | c-c: no errors that i see. there is, however, apachectl .. Could not reliably determine the server's qualified domain name... |
| 23:37.48 | shakes808 | 127.0.1.1 |
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| 23:39.07 | shakes808 | c-c but that was 30 mins ago and i restarted the lappy 4x since then and nothing |
| 23:39.23 | shakes808 | and hung up each time |
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| 23:41.10 | kline | is https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing correct for stretch? I have stretch, have `deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib` in /etc/apt/sources.list, but cannot find it when trying to apt install. additionally, https://packages.debian.org/jessie/pepperflashplugin-nonfree doesnt indicate a page in the top right for stretch |
| 23:43.12 | c-c | shakes808: well syslog -files have timestamps - just look for the timestamp of your last failed shutdown |
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| 23:43.25 | c-c | shakes808: not sure what you mean by "it just hangs" |
| 23:44.10 | c-c | kline: I thought flash players are being deprecated and are security threat |
| 23:44.21 | kline | c-c, yes, but i still require it |
| 23:44.24 | kline | sadly |
| 23:45.17 | c-c | kline: pepperflash is in the nonfree I believe. To use it, you may need to configure your browser/install NPAPI adapter |
| 23:45.50 | shakes808 | c-c: it just sits on the black screen and never turns off |
| 23:46.08 | kline | yes, i have non-free enabled in my sources list, and i have the adapter, but it appears that the repo doesnt actually have the pepperflash package the wiki document explains |
| 23:46.40 | c-c | kline: yes, maybe its no longer in the debian 9 non-free repos, but you will need to get if from Adobe directly |
| 23:46.42 | kline | as in, the document says to get pepperflash and the adapter, but i cant apt install it, and the packages site has it listed for every release except stretch |
| 23:47.16 | c-c | https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 23:47.44 | kline | ah, so the pepperflash wiki page is actually wrong |
| 23:47.57 | kline | (and should redirect to here or repeat this info) |
| 23:48.00 | c-c | old, probably |
| 23:48.13 | kline | ace, thanks, this looks like it'll sort me out :) |
| 23:49.06 | c-c | np, flashplayer has probably simply been deprecated due to end-of-life + secu holes |
| 23:49.27 | kline | yes, im aware, but i still actually require it for Legacy(TM) reasons |
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| 23:49.35 | kline | which is frustrating but a fact of life |
| 23:50.12 | kline | the pepperflash package does still appear in buster and jessie, it appears, though |
| 23:51.10 | c-c | shakes808: can you test what happens if you do: $ shutdown |
| 23:51.11 | KNERD | Anyone know where I can find the DVD ISO firmware for version 8? |
| 23:52.07 | Zathras | firmware? |
| 23:52.09 | KNERD | Here is a link for th version 9, but having trouble finding for version 8 https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.4.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 23:52.10 | c-c | KNERD: is it this? https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 23:52.24 | KNERD | c-c: that has version 9 |
| 23:52.42 | c-c | KNERD: see under "archive" dir |
| 23:52.53 | c-c | KNERD: have a good one! |
| 23:53.13 | KNERD | Yes, that is it! Thanks c-c: |
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| 23:57.37 | shakes808 | c-c: broadcasts 2x that it is shutting down. `pts/0` and the fan / hd starts up |
| 23:58.15 | shakes808 | c-c: been like this for ~ 4 - 5 mins |
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