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| 00:14.04 | rant | ok I just did a jessie->stretch upgrade and I'd come here to make sure everything was working and it seems ok except it seems to have modified lightdm's config even though I specifically recall telling it not to. Problem is I believe root is disabled and I have nfc what the user's password is and pretty sure they dont either. Its no longer auto logging in |
| 00:14.19 | rant | I tried init=/bin/bash from grub and it kernel panic |
| 00:14.52 | rant | I need to get back in so I can setup lightdm to auto login and apparently you can't do the init= thing with systemd or something idk.. |
| 00:15.58 | rant | do I seriously need to find a bootable media and chroot rescue this or is there some new way to bypass login? |
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| 00:19.48 | rant | ugh.. now the damn thing doesnt even seem to be showing grub.. goes no signal on the screen after the bios |
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| 00:22.51 | rant | yes its resulting in a kernel panic attempt to kill init when I do init=/bin/sh |
| 00:23.21 | rant | apparently all the million drives he got plugged in makes it take a long time to show grub.. I unplugged everything and it boots faster :P |
| 00:23.49 | rant | oh well I guess I gotta make something I can chroot rescue from |
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| 00:24.10 | rant | is real mad at systemd again for the first time in a long time |
| 00:25.01 | rant | cause I'm pretty damn sure thats whats responsible for init= not booting to a shell anymore |
| 00:26.09 | rant | wait a minute I'm getting all mad for nothing.. I got f'n keys to this machine on my phone |
| 00:26.16 | rant | doh |
| 00:26.34 | rant | boots his phone to ssh in |
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| 00:29.17 | annadane | throws a shoe at rant |
| 00:29.52 | rant | worst part of that is I was doing this upgrade on the way over on the bus from my phone |
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| 00:30.21 | rant | I'm just so stressed out when something like this screws up I stop thinking straight :P |
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| 00:31.54 | rant | oh well that wont work apparently it has network issues too |
| 00:34.55 | rant | couldn't even find this whatever .. chrome I think it is.. on this win10 when I switched to another window to clear off a thumbdrive |
| 00:35.11 | rant | this windows 10 looks about as bad as unity |
| 00:37.04 | rant | now the question is what is the simplest way I can use windows 10 to make a thumbdrive bootable for chroot rescue |
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| 00:38.27 | rant | shoots over to mirrors.kernel.org to download a debian netinst iso.. but has no clue how to make it a bootable thumbdrive on win10 |
| 00:38.51 | dvs | !win32diskimager |
| 00:38.51 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 00:39.02 | tharkun | Good $DAY. A client wants me to connect using a "Forticlient" program to connect to his server. Can anyone tell me if such thing exist for linux? |
| 00:40.04 | rant | us linux users usually just flame people like that.. and if that doesnt work beat em with a keyboard |
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| 00:40.45 | annadane | tharkun, may want to ask ##linux |
| 00:41.06 | rant | tharkun: all seriousness though it seems to be a proprietary vpn and is available for linux |
| 00:41.14 | annadane | doesn't appear to be in debian, at least |
| 00:41.23 | rant | yeah cause its proprietary :P |
| 00:41.28 | rant | and we have openvpn and such |
| 00:42.13 | annadane | well, the contrib/non-free section exists |
| 00:42.33 | rant | its not like cool-sounding-named-vpn-software-company were the only ones to ever think of encrypted vpn that use SSL |
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| 01:02.56 | andersonid | hi... does anyone knows how to debug my sstp-client vpn connection attempts? I cant figure out why I cant connect to my VPN (SSTP) just reading syslog. :( |
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| 01:08.33 | kion | will "tar -xvzf myfile.tar.gz " overwrite the file in a directory? or will it rename them if already exist? |
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| 01:21.11 | tharkun | annadane: thanks. |
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| 01:26.09 | flugger | kion: I elive it does, you could use -k to --keep old files |
| 01:26.14 | flugger | *blieve |
| 01:26.19 | flugger | shit. |
| 01:26.27 | kion | lol |
| 01:26.27 | annadane | beeleeve? |
| 01:26.50 | flugger | Yes, that. |
| 01:27.02 | mutante | elive is like a distro name |
| 01:27.30 | flugger | iLive is the apple distro |
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| 03:02.10 | birdbolt1 | helo |
| 03:02.17 | thatpythonguy | hello |
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| 03:02.31 | birdbolt1 | I still havent been able to solve my issue with my hhidpi screen from several days ago |
| 03:02.37 | birdbolt1 | so I have a different solution: |
| 03:02.53 | birdbolt1 | access my linux filesystem via network and edit code from windows |
| 03:03.25 | birdbolt1 | It runs in a vm but gets internet access via NAT. Do you guys know how i can expose linux root directory to windows over network? |
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| 03:03.50 | somiaj | birdbolt1: in what way? Do you just want to do development in debian on windows? |
| 03:03.57 | birdbolt1 | yes |
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| 03:04.09 | thatpythonguy | use a virtual environment |
| 03:04.10 | birdbolt1 | I've struggled too much with display issues, and I really just need to get going |
| 03:04.21 | birdbolt1 | thatpythonguy, thats what im using rn |
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| 03:04.30 | birdbolt1 | but all linux look too tiny |
| 03:04.53 | birdbolt1 | i have a surface book. hidpi display, and linux does not play well wwith that. I crane my neck to read and edit code |
| 03:04.54 | somiaj | birdbolt1: linux has this new fancy feature that is its version of a debian chroot. |
| 03:05.01 | somiaj | birdbolt1: debian even makes offical images for it |
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| 03:05.35 | thatpythonguy | what if you made the font bigger |
| 03:05.41 | thatpythonguy | my bad tho |
| 03:06.06 | birdbolt1 | that is what i did in the past |
| 03:06.07 | somiaj | birdbolt1: it is called windows linux subsystem, kinda designed to give users a debian shell interface inside of windows to do linux development and testing on |
| 03:06.12 | birdbolt1 | many programs dont respefct that |
| 03:06.19 | birdbolt1 | and windows still appear tiny with overflowing text |
| 03:06.35 | birdbolt1 | constantly resisizing shit. I'm tired of that |
| 03:06.44 | thatpythonguy | what distro is it? |
| 03:06.54 | birdbolt1 | debian |
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| 03:09.54 | annadane | stupid question: have you tried xrandr |
| 03:10.51 | birdbolt1 | yup |
| 03:11.04 | birdbolt1 | its behavior has been more of a hack than solution |
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| 03:22.04 | birdbolt1 | installed using gdebi |
| 03:22.07 | birdbolt1 | but i cant find it? |
| 03:22.57 | birdbolt1 | i downloaded the .deb file for chrome (before you redirect me to chromium, it is severely handicapped) aand installed gdebi |
| 03:23.15 | birdbolt1 | i installed chrome expecting it to show up in medu but i cant find it |
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| 03:23.58 | somiaj | just run it from a terminal, google-chrome-stable is usually the binary name |
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| 04:03.35 | zerocool | basically when i set a folder in windows to grant someone full -change owner, -change permissions, -delete, +delete contents, apply and save... check again and it's full permissions |
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| 04:22.23 | silverballz | birdbolt1: there is an ext3/4 windows driver here: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ |
| 04:22.36 | silverballz | that will give you access to ext filesystem from ntfs |
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| 06:39.26 | Haohmaru | with the nvidia-304 driver, can the screen be rotated? |
| 06:40.12 | annadane | xrandr can do it; the nvidia control center if you have it may also have an option |
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| 06:40.22 | birdbolt1 | hello |
| 06:40.37 | somiaj | I don't know if the older 304 nvidia driver supported xrandr |
| 06:40.40 | birdbolt1 | i have read that pip comes with python3 by default |
| 06:40.46 | somiaj | you will most likely have to use nvidias own settings for this. |
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| 06:41.05 | birdbolt1 | i tried pip, |
| 06:41.14 | birdbolt1 | will@debian:~/trials$ python3 pip |
| 06:41.14 | birdbolt1 | python3: can't open file 'pip': [Errno 2] No such file or directory |
| 06:41.24 | jelly | Haohmaru: like xrandr -o 1 ? |
| 06:41.46 | Haohmaru | annadane, i have a rotate script in .xsession (using xrandr) but after installing the nvidia driver - i need to rotate my face.. and i couldn't find a rotate setting in the nvidia graphical settings panel |
| 06:41.55 | somiaj | birdbolt1: well it would be pip3, and no, in debian python3-pip is a sepearate package, and you may want to consider what you are doing if you need pip (virtual enviomrents are recommended for such a use case) |
| 06:42.05 | jelly | Haohmaru: pastebin the output of "xrandr -q" |
| 06:42.12 | nkuttler | birdbolt1: it's just "pip", not "python pip".. |
| 06:42.19 | birdbolt1 | yes, i have installed virtualenv nkuttler |
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| 06:43.04 | birdbolt1 | the right order is install virtual env --> create virtualenv and activate --> use pip to install django --> work |
| 06:43.06 | birdbolt1 | right? |
| 06:43.06 | Haohmaru | oh, actually, my rotate script now says "VGA-1 not found" |
| 06:43.19 | birdbolt1 | i assume the system-wide pip works in that virtualenv? |
| 06:43.19 | Haohmaru | okay, the name of the display must have changed |
| 06:43.53 | birdbolt1 | hmm this si odd: |
| 06:43.54 | birdbolt1 | will@debian:~/trials$ pip3 |
| 06:43.54 | birdbolt1 | bash: pip3: command not found |
| 06:43.58 | somiaj | birdbolt1: you do need to install python3-pip as well, as mentioned |
| 06:43.59 | birdbolt1 | didnt wrk either |
| 06:44.02 | jelly | Haohmaru: yes, screen names do not match between nouveau and nvidia |
| 06:44.04 | Haohmaru | yey, fixed |
| 06:44.28 | somiaj | birdbolt1: and debian does package python3-django |
| 06:44.38 | birdbolt1 | but its an old one |
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| 06:44.44 | birdbolt1 | 1.10 or something |
| 06:44.45 | Haohmaru | i was "fine" with noveau again, untill the 2nd time i did suspend and then it failed to wake up properly |
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| 06:44.52 | birdbolt1 | I wanna use 2. 0.somthing |
| 06:45.01 | nkuttler | birdbolt1: you should probably be asking in #django |
| 06:45.06 | birdbolt1 | hmm okay |
| 06:45.07 | annadane | i get more issues with nvidia than nouveau but nouveau has more chances of crashing... *shrug* |
| 06:46.12 | birdbolt1 | nkuttler, hmm cant join somehow |
| 06:46.15 | birdbolt1 | both using join command |
| 06:46.18 | birdbolt1 | and channel search |
| 06:46.20 | birdbolt1 | just does nothing |
| 06:46.25 | birdbolt1 | other channels work though |
| 06:46.35 | nkuttler | birdbolt1: you probably need to be authenticated with services |
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| 06:46.59 | birdbolt1 | ahh thanks that worked |
| 06:48.04 | BrahRah | Is there any CC that doesn't use miners? |
| 06:48.29 | nkuttler | cc? |
| 06:48.45 | BrahRah | cryptocurrency |
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| 06:48.52 | somiaj | doesn't really sound like a debian support question |
| 06:49.01 | BrahRah | oh up wrong chat |
| 06:49.06 | BrahRah | sry |
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| 06:49.49 | Haohmaru | heh, funny, as i move the mouse it feels like it'd redrawing with.. i don't know.. 30fps |
| 06:49.56 | Haohmaru | * it's |
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| 07:10.48 | padomay | hi.. do you guys have freezing problems with debian 9.4? |
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| 07:11.19 | annadane | if you're using nouveau it's possible |
| 07:11.37 | annadane | otherwise that's a really general question, some people will have that problem, some won't |
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| 07:15.39 | michael2 | I have a problem with "Ctrl lock" (I didn't even know Ctrl-lock was a tthing!) getting stuck on when my stretch resumes from a suspend, but it doesn't freeze up |
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| 07:16.14 | annadane | padomay, .xsession-errors and journalctl may give more information |
| 07:16.34 | somiaj | you mean scroll lock? hit ctrl-Q it should remove scroll lock from your console/terminal |
| 07:18.02 | padomay | annadane, home dir? |
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| 07:18.18 | annadane | for xsession-errors, yes |
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| 07:19.12 | padomay | what if i empty the file? |
| 07:19.24 | annadane | well, the logs will be gone |
| 07:19.44 | padomay | yeah it's to see what it says when it will freeze again |
| 07:19.56 | annadane | it won't cause breakage, it's safe to do |
| 07:22.08 | padomay | mm k |
| 07:22.14 | padomay | anyway, thank you |
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| 07:22.51 | thatoneuser | Hi, is there a way to cut lines from a text file based on regex? I've got a list of movie names but want to cut off everything after (year) so I can see what dupes I've got. |
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| 07:23.58 | michael2 | somiaj: were you meaning me about "scroll lock"? |
| 07:24.12 | somiaj | michael2: yes |
| 07:24.32 | michael2 | can I check that with a term capabilities command? |
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| 07:25.22 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: there are may ways. you can do it with sed or vim (or 100 other tools). |
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| 07:25.54 | thatoneuser | disposable2: got an example for sed? |
| 07:26.06 | somiaj | michael2: I'm unsure, but I think scroll-lock is a common thing all terminals support. There use to be a scroll-lock key on keyboards for this paticular thing, but ctrl-lock sounds like something I've seen do this. |
| 07:26.14 | michael2 | thatoneuser: you can use the `-v' option to grep - that will match all lines that dont have the pattern |
| 07:26.21 | somiaj | michael2: it freezes the terminal, but system should run fine. |
| 07:26.25 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: give me a sample line from your file |
| 07:26.33 | somiaj | michael2: though I could have missintrupited what your issue was. |
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| 07:27.51 | michael2 | somiaj: for me Ctrl-q usually what I use to unlock the terminal when I accidentally hit <Ctrl-S> which locked it. I think there is a command to list terminal capabilities though |
| 07:28.04 | thatoneuser | disposable2: https://pastebin.com/raw/Ca0wf08R |
| 07:29.01 | thatoneuser | would like for it to cut off everything after ...) and export to a new file > log2.txt |
| 07:29.28 | thatoneuser | so then i could run that through a dupe checker. unless i can do all this in 1 swing. |
| 07:29.54 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: sed -i -e 's/).*/)/g' test1 |
| 07:30.02 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: test1 being the filename |
| 07:30.24 | thatoneuser | ty |
| 07:30.31 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: you're welcome |
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| 07:31.51 | thatoneuser | perfect, just what i wanted todo. |
| 07:31.54 | thatoneuser | ty again |
| 07:32.06 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: oh, back up your file first |
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| 07:32.24 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: too late? |
| 07:32.32 | thatoneuser | nope, i always backup first |
| 07:32.35 | thatoneuser | :) |
| 07:33.03 | disposable2 | thatoneuser: spoken like a man who's already lost valuable data |
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| 07:33.30 | thatoneuser | :D true |
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| 07:39.41 | dqsii | speaking of losing data i lost half of my parents photos when making changes to my current pc before my new pc build is done :( |
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| 07:41.09 | thatoneuser | dqsii: dang that sucks hard. :( |
| 07:41.24 | thatoneuser | specially that kind of data. |
| 07:41.56 | thatoneuser | been there done that though. now i make sure to always do backups. |
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| 07:43.39 | petn-randall | dqsii: No backups? If you accidentally deleted them, you might still be able to recover them. |
| 07:44.56 | dqsii | i doubt it i formated all my drives and made os changes on this pc to make way for the new pc and os i plan on running on it |
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| 07:47.19 | zW | Hi, I have an apache2.4 running php (phpfpm, ondemand scheduled) with a very slow time to first byte |
| 07:47.29 | zW | It is obvious that something is wron |
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| 07:47.40 | jelly | zW: which debian release? |
| 07:47.44 | zW | If I'm looking to strace's I see 55% time for clone syscalls |
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| 07:48.03 | zW | 7.1 (We are in the progress of upgrading) |
| 07:48.19 | zW | Running a 4.14 kernel |
| 07:48.38 | zW | Running on top of VMWare, everything is spectre and meldown patched. |
| 07:48.43 | jelly | so you have a custom apache and a custom kernel on debian 7? |
| 07:48.55 | zW | Yes, own packages. |
| 07:49.12 | jelly | and custom php as well? :-) |
| 07:49.18 | zW | I see a lot of clone and epoll_wait syscalls, 668 clone calls |
| 07:49.19 | zW | Yes |
| 07:49.20 | zW | :) |
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| 07:49.32 | jelly | and you want us to be able to help you how? :-) |
| 07:49.53 | zW | jelly: we did nog had any issues about 6 months ago, so we are hitting some kind of performance bottleneck |
| 07:50.05 | zW | I'm just looking for a way to see where the bottleneck sits |
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| 07:51.11 | jelly | you were stracing what, fpm? |
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| 07:51.28 | zW | Yes, when I'm serving static html everything goed fast |
| 07:51.29 | jelly | clone is just threading |
| 07:51.40 | zW | When I strace fpm I see this: |
| 07:51.44 | zW | % time seconds usecs/call calls errors syscall |
| 07:51.44 | zW | ------ ----------- ----------- --------- --------- ---------------- |
| 07:51.44 | zW | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.44 | zW | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:51.46 | jelly | !paste |
| 07:51.46 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 07:51.52 | zW | Woops, sorry |
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| 07:52.10 | zW | Well, I just see clone and epoll_waits taking all the time |
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| 07:52.40 | jelly | what was the exact strace command line to get that kind of output, I'm unfamiliar with it |
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| 07:53.05 | zW | strace -o /tmp/strace.log -c -p `pgrep -u 35660 php-fpm` |
| 07:53.43 | jelly | and you did not -f ? |
| 07:54.01 | zW | No I'll do that now |
| 07:54.02 | zW | Sec |
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| 07:55.53 | zW | Aha |
| 07:56.20 | zW | jelly: I'm seeing a bunch of lstats with 69627 errors |
| 07:56.27 | zW | % time seconds usecs/call calls errors syscall |
| 07:56.33 | zW | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:56.43 | zW | I'm storing the data on a NFS volume |
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| 08:06.57 | jelly | zW: and that al might be normal |
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| 08:13.21 | Walakea | is there no easier way to obtain the newest G++ (and libstdc++) into Debian Stretch than using chroot? |
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| 08:13.48 | Walakea | i noticed there is clang in backports, but i need g++ specifically |
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| 08:16.48 | petn-randall | Walakea: You could just backport it yourself. |
| 08:16.50 | petn-randall | !ssb |
| 08:16.50 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 08:18.48 | jelly | Walakea: no, because libstdc++ is pretty much a core OS component |
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| 08:27.01 | petn-randall | Indeed, libstdc++ you won't get backported without breaking your system. |
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| 08:36.06 | Walakea | ok, the other thing, is it impossible to enter chroot without using superuser? |
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| 08:36.58 | petn-randall | Walakea: You need to be root to chroot, yes. However, consider using docker or similar tools if you need a different environment than your base system. It's fairly easy to use once it's set up. |
| 08:38.17 | jelly | petn-randall: well technically libstdc++6 should have a stable ABI and not break anything. |
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| 08:38.56 | petn-randall | Pfff, good luck with that! |
| 08:39.05 | jelly | backward compatible, so not break anything going forward at least |
| 08:39.23 | jelly | I had good luck with that until gcc5. |
| 08:40.23 | Walakea | not that i am going to do that, but if i were to backport libstdc++, woulnd't i have to recompile everything on my system? |
| 08:40.48 | Walakea | jelly: you just answered it |
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| 08:41.36 | Walakea | does libstdc++ version scheme go along with g++? |
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| 08:42.05 | jelly | I think it goes its own way |
| 08:42.27 | jelly | ,v libstdc++6 |
| 08:42.29 | judd | Package: libstdc++6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.7.2-5; jessie: 4.9.2-10; jessie-proposed-updates: 4.9.2-10+deb8u1; jessie-security: 4.9.2-10+deb8u1; stretch: 6.3.0-18+deb9u1; stretch-security: 6.3.0-18+deb9u1; buster: 8.1.0-3; sid: 8.1.0-5 |
| 08:42.35 | jelly | or not |
| 08:43.45 | shtrb|work | Is there some dh_script that can build debian packages from composer packages (and all needed req) ? |
| 08:45.03 | shtrb|work | s/dh_script/anything |
| 08:46.06 | babilen | shtrb|work: I'm sure there is, maybe ask the php maintainers? |
| 08:46.36 | shtrb|work | oftc ? |
| 08:47.35 | babilen | No idea if they have an IRC channel, but I'd look into their packaging guidelines |
| 08:47.53 | babilen | judd: i dh-php |
| 08:47.54 | judd | Package dh-php (php, extra) in stretch/amd64: debhelper add-on to handle PHP PECL extensions. Version: 0.26; Size: 12.8k; Installed: 44k |
| 08:48.03 | babilen | ah, PECL |
| 08:48.06 | babilen | *shrug* |
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| 08:48.46 | shtrb|work | just to be clear, I don't wish to maintance a specific package , just to use it to create some deb files that could be handled by apt |
| 08:49.19 | babilen | Yeah, my understanding was that you look for a packaging helper that helps with the scaffolding |
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| 09:15.08 | jelly | hey there GeekNerd |
| 09:15.15 | jelly | aw. |
| 09:15.32 | Tegu | lol, phishing in IRC |
| 09:15.59 | jelly | it's not even phishing, he's just trying to find interesting ways to be an annoyance |
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| 11:16.00 | user03 | hello, i try to load iptables rules with: sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.test.rules but iptables -L don't show me the rules https://paste.debian.net/hidden/eb8afa1d/ |
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| 11:17.50 | petn-randall | user03: Did the command throw an error? |
| 11:18.07 | user03 | no |
| 11:18.18 | petn-randall | user03: and can you also paste the output of 'sudo iptables -L -vn'? |
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| 11:20.10 | alipoor90 | how can i make a rule for both udp and tcp in nftables? something like: {tcp, udp} dport 53 counter accept comment "accept DNS" |
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| 11:21.04 | user03 | petn-randall, thank you here is the output https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2179d0df/ |
| 11:21.07 | petn-randall | alipoor90: Which OS release are you running? |
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| 11:21.39 | petn-randall | user03: I see the rules. |
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| 11:22.07 | user03 | me? |
| 11:22.08 | petn-randall | eowl: Who? What? |
| 11:22.16 | jelly | Where? |
| 11:22.22 | eowl | user03: |
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| 11:22.28 | user03 | i use sudo |
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| 11:23.09 | jelly | user03: that all looks fine, what's the problem? iptables -L just shows the filter table, if you want to see the rules from the nat table, add -t nat |
| 11:23.12 | petn-randall | user03: no, root is not the issue. |
| 11:23.36 | eowl | user03 maybe, i think it's depends distributions |
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| 11:25.08 | user03 | i canT' connect from the internet to prot 25 or 53 .. |
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| 11:27.52 | petn-randall | eowl: It's easy to answer though, because we only support one distribution in here. |
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| 11:46.54 | OS-38463 | Hi, I am trying to install "cherrytree" in Kali Linux . But get the following error: |
| 11:46.57 | OS-38463 | Selecting previously unselected package libdbusmenu-glib4:i386. |
| 11:46.57 | OS-38463 | dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: |
| 11:46.57 | OS-38463 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.57 | OS-38463 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
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| 11:46.58 | dpkg | wish i knew, OS-38463 |
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| 11:47.56 | annadane | !kali |
| 11:47.56 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 11:47.58 | annadane | OS-38463, ^ |
| 11:48.24 | annadane | i think that's legitimately the first kali question i've ever seen in freenode #debian |
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| 11:49.13 | blackflow | annadane: eh? one pops up weekly. |
| 11:49.31 | annadane | i've only ever seen it in OFTC |
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| 11:59.11 | jelly | blackflow: in the past, debian kept backporting security fixes from newer upstream relelases to packaged version on their own, but Debian's definition of what's security relevant might be slightly different from upstream. |
| 12:00.02 | jelly | ,v php7.2 |
| 12:00.02 | judd | Package: php7.2 on amd64 -- buster: 7.2.4-1; sid: 7.2.4-1 |
| 12:00.06 | jelly | ,v php7.0 |
| 12:00.07 | judd | Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.27-0+deb9u1; stretch-security: 7.0.27-0+deb9u1; buster: 7.0.29-1; sid: 7.0.29-1 |
| 12:00.40 | blackflow | jelly: I see. |
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| 12:21.29 | user03 | hi, a fresh postfix installtion is not logging there is no /var/log/mail.log should i install rsyslog? |
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| 12:22.55 | petn-randall | user03: Nothing will be logged there if no mails are processed. |
| 12:23.02 | annadane | i'm actually not familiar with postfix but generally to get mail you need some kind of MUA, like exim4 |
| 12:23.27 | user03 | petn-randall, ok i try it again |
| 12:23.55 | user03 | annadane, postfix is like exim |
| 12:24.04 | annadane | ah |
| 12:24.14 | annadane | then yeah it's possible you'll only get mail after doing something that sends mail :P |
| 12:24.59 | petn-randall | annadane: exim is a MTA, a MUA is e.g. thunderbird. |
| 12:25.04 | petn-randall | !mta |
| 12:25.04 | dpkg | A Message/Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/sbin/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>. http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 12:25.07 | petn-randall | !mua |
| 12:25.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, mua is a Mail User Agent, in other words <mailx>, <mutt>, <balsa>, <alpine>, <elm>, <icedove> (thunderbird), <kmail>, <evolution>, or any other mail client program. |
| 12:25.12 | annadane | oops |
| 12:25.15 | petn-randall | :) |
| 12:25.47 | blackflow | user03: postfix uses syslog facilities for logging. with systemd that means it's logged by journald. if you don't forward to a syslog daemon (like rsyslog), which in turn is configured to store mail.* facility messages to /var/log/mail.log, then no, there won't be such file. |
| 12:27.48 | user03 | blackflow, ok thank you |
| 12:27.54 | blackflow | and btw, just starting/stopping postfix will produce log entries. no need to actually process mail to have anything in the appropriate log. |
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| 12:31.57 | anki | Anyone would like to share how to execute ping command which provide only statistics |
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| 12:34.38 | jelly | OS-38463: your irc connection seems to be not very stable |
| 12:35.18 | annadane | but you know what is stable? debian stable! *cheesy endorsement to draw away kali users* |
| 12:35.25 | anki | Paste bin : https://pastebin.com/MDW1qHvd To explain better |
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| 12:48.08 | jelly | anki: append « | tail -n 2» to the command? |
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| 12:56.21 | anki | jelly : thanks for answer checking |
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| 12:57.16 | anki | Jelly: Thanks its working |
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| 13:05.21 | [E]sc | i'm trying to access my server via apache2 on a separate computer on the same network, but it keeps timing out. I can ping it, but it doesn't connect. the ports seem to be open and i have the listen :80 on the apache config file. I'm using debian stretch. any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 13:06.12 | greycat | if a TCP connection to port 80 times out, that's either a firewall dropping packets, or you've got the wrong IP address |
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| 13:08.20 | ikanobori | Or you're not actually listening on the IP address you're reaching the machine on. |
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| 13:10.10 | jelly | [E]sc: verify using a sniffer like tcpdump whether the traffic actually reaches your server or not. |
| 13:10.15 | greycat | No. If there's nothing listening on that port/interface, you will NOT get a timeout. You will get an immediate "Connection refused". |
| 13:10.20 | greycat | Totally different. |
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| 13:13.59 | jelly | [E]sc: if traffic does not appear on the relevant interface of your server, verify whether you're resolving and connecting to the right IP |
| 13:14.42 | jelly | [E]sc: if it's the right IP, verity with "arp" if the MAC address the client sees for that IP matches the MAC address of the server |
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| 13:23.52 | vandman | Hi, I am looking to use mysql in a specific contexte in debian 8. I created all directory, and modified mysql file to start the service. |
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| 13:24.25 | vandman | When I start the service, I have the following error: The partition ... is too full! |
| 13:24.51 | petn-randall | !context |
| 13:24.52 | dpkg | Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net. |
| 13:24.58 | petn-randall | vandman: ^^^ |
| 13:25.09 | greycat | vandman: df |
| 13:25.13 | vandman | here is the pastebin of my mysql file in /etc/init.d: https://pastebin.com/cQEbHWZf |
| 13:25.17 | petn-randall | vandman: How did you install mysql? |
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| 13:25.47 | vandman | via apt |
| 13:26.25 | vandman | To be more precise, via ansible : https://pastebin.com/M4BXs6Z1 |
| 13:27.46 | petn-randall | vandman: As greycat said: Run "df". Is the disk full? |
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| 13:30.04 | vandman | the df command return an error because the mysql service does not create the directory as in CenOS. |
| 13:30.22 | petn-randall | What? |
| 13:30.26 | greycat | If the df command returns an error, something is seriously broken. |
| 13:30.36 | petn-randall | vandman: Please paste the output of 'df' to https://paste.debian.net. |
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| 13:35.58 | quickquick | hello world:) |
| 13:36.07 | petn-randall | Hello quickquick |
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| 13:38.01 | quickquick | i'm sorry and I don't really know if i'm in the good irc channel for this: i'm looking to install a list of .tar.xz packages (1000+) and dont want to do it manually. any suggestions or ideas please? i'm running kali os and I want to import this: https://www.blackarch.org/blackarch/blackarch/os/aarch64/ |
| 13:38.37 | greycat | !kali |
| 13:38.37 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 13:38.52 | greycat | And that is the kindest possible response I can give to this question. |
| 13:39.26 | annadane | the universe is mocking me |
| 13:39.34 | quickquick | Thank you it's clear ^^ have a good day everybody |
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| 13:40.53 | mutante | i like the design of that directory index :p |
| 13:42.20 | blackflow | annadane: two in a day! :) |
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| 13:42.50 | greycat | The day is young. |
| 13:43.20 | mutante | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.32 | annadane | veto, sorry |
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| 13:43.43 | mutante | ;) |
| 13:44.11 | vandman | Hi, I get this message: ERROR: The partition with "datadir" is too full!" |
| 13:44.26 | annadane | with df? |
| 13:44.28 | vandman | df alone tels me that the directory does not exist. |
| 13:44.39 | greycat | Gosh, if only there were a command that could tell you how full each file system is. |
| 13:44.47 | greycat | vandman: bullshit. |
| 13:44.56 | [E]sc | jelly, thanks i'll give that a try. |
| 13:45.59 | mutante | df never said to me "directory doesnt exist". maybe du did, but df? |
| 13:46.17 | greycat | He's clearly lying to us as hard as he possibly can. |
| 13:47.42 | vandman | # df /datadir df: « /datadir »: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type |
| 13:47.43 | greycat | vandman: In case we were not clear: log in to this system, in such a way that you have an interactive shell where you can type commands. Then press "d", then press "f", then press "Enter". Then take your mouse and highlight the entire shell session, top to bottom, including the command and its output, and paste that into http://paste.debian.net/ and then tell us the URL. |
| 13:48.12 | blackflow | lol |
| 13:48.23 | mutante | vandman: "df alone" |
| 13:48.54 | greycat | df: alone: No such file or directory |
| 13:49.01 | greycat | You know he'll do eit. |
| 13:49.04 | mutante | :o lol |
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| 13:49.51 | mutante | prepares for the "mouse and highlight" issues |
| 13:49.58 | user03 | how can i copy this file? lxc-usernsexec cp /home/user1/config $HOME/.local/share/lxc/vm12/ cp: cannot create regular file '/home/user1/.local/share/lxc/vm12/config': Permission denie |
| 13:50.22 | vandman | Ok it seem I am not clear enouth. I only have one partition and I use only 7% of it. As I said, I try to run mysql on a specific context , /datadir |
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| 13:51.19 | vandman | I modified the mysql service script witcc is in /etc/init.d/ |
| 13:51.30 | greycat | Did it work before you modified everything? |
| 13:51.41 | greycat | How about you just install Debian, then install mysql, and then voila, it's running? |
| 13:51.52 | vandman | I modified it to use the datadir. |
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| 13:52.21 | vandman | Did it work before you modified everything? Yes |
| 13:52.37 | greycat | Then there's your solution. |
| 13:52.55 | vandman | Where I am, they ask me to do this way. I have no choice. |
| 13:52.57 | greycat | You said you only have one partition, so there is no point in moving anything around. |
| 13:53.06 | mutante | user03: become "user1" who owns home/user1 while copying ? |
| 13:53.27 | greycat | user03: and make sure the directory you're trying to copy into is owned by the correct user |
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| 13:54.43 | vandman | In my Test VM I have only one partition but in production, they give us a smal VM with a mounted volume with enought space. That is why I need to move everything. |
| 13:54.59 | user03 | i run the command as user1 and created the container |
| 13:55.21 | greycat | user03: use ls -ld on the target directory path to see the owner, group, and permissions |
| 13:55.56 | annadane | "no d or f key, keyboard eaten by vultures" |
| 13:56.12 | babilen | vandman: Why don't you ensure that the directory is present? |
| 13:56.25 | greycat | "because they won't let me"? |
| 13:56.55 | user03 | -rw-r--r-- 1 user1 user1 1084 Jun 1 09:33 config |
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| 13:57.03 | greycat | user03: that isn't a directory |
| 13:57.05 | vandman | I do not know the difference between CentOS and Debian, but in CentOS, it works. |
| 13:57.12 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 13:57.55 | mutante | vandman: in the test VM you can pretend as if you have the same mounted volume as in prod, by creating a directory and avoid moving all the things? |
| 13:58.03 | mutante | make the test VM as much as prod as possible |
| 13:58.08 | vandman | It is like if Debian set all the needed file and directory when mysql is installed and then just run the service??? |
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| 13:58.14 | user03 | drwxrwx--- 3 165536 user1 4096 Jun 1 09:34 vm12 |
| 13:58.32 | greycat | user03: well, that's an interesting ownership there. |
| 13:58.48 | vandman | In centOS, the service script create the needed file and directory. |
| 13:58.56 | greycat | user03: chown user1 vm12 |
| 13:59.02 | greycat | (as root) |
| 14:00.17 | babilen | vandman: Which version of Debian is this? |
| 14:00.59 | vandman | 8 |
| 14:01.39 | greycat | I'd say something like "mkdir /datadir" but he won't do it, and the reason will be something insane. Like "there's a 13 command limit in ansible and I've already used all 13 so I can't add a mkdir", or god knows what. |
| 14:02.13 | babilen | Isn't /datadir simply a placeholder for the actual datadir used in MySQL? |
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| 14:02.38 | mutante | i assumed it's because he is replacing that for the actual datadir for privacy reasons |
| 14:02.53 | greycat | If that's true, then I should've /ignored him SOONER. |
| 14:03.52 | user03 | greycat, thank you but i created unprivileged container as it's in debian wiki, how can it be that there is a wrong permissions? |
| 14:03.55 | babilen | Mounting whatever vandman needs to /var/lib/mysql would also be an option |
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| 14:04.24 | greycat | babilen: "they won't let me" |
| 14:04.28 | zodd | I installed and configured Varnish from deb repo. It runs fine when I execute the ExecStart line manually, but dies when starting through systemd |
| 14:04.33 | mutante | vandman: i say the actual issue is that the test VM is too different from prod. it needs to fake being like prod. with mkdir or mount |
| 14:04.34 | zodd | how can I debug this? |
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| 14:04.56 | vandman | the ansible posted task comes after task to create the context (user, datadir and subdir), task to install mysql via apt. |
| 14:05.06 | greycat | zodd: systemctl status theservicename, journalctl -u theservicename |
| 14:05.36 | vandman | the VM is provided with the mounted volume in /datadir |
| 14:05.51 | babilen | vandman: So, the path MySQL's datadir points to would exist at that point? |
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| 14:06.10 | zodd | status gives me: Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2018-06-01 16:02:30 CEST; 2s ago & journal gives me: systemd[1]: Started Varnish HTTP accelerator. |
| 14:06.30 | mutante | vandman: and what is the /datadir in production? |
| 14:06.32 | greycat | zodd: it should give you a LOT more than that, especially if you run it as root instead of a non-root user |
| 14:06.45 | zodd | I am root |
| 14:07.00 | greycat | zodd: then there should be like half a screen full of information including what looks like log file lines at the end |
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| 14:07.23 | vandman | I created a playbook to be used for debian and CenOs. I started the work with CenOs. in Centos, I just Specify datadir and then It creates me the proper structure |
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| 14:07.55 | zodd | true, PID etc. but no errors, and the process/pid has died. The only thing hinting that something is wrong is the inactive (dead) message |
| 14:08.19 | vandman | In centOs, mysql service script create /datadir/base |
| 14:08.36 | mutante | vandman: so you are saying you wrote ansible code and it works on one OS but not on another? |
| 14:08.53 | vandman | I do not know wy in Debian it does not act the same? |
| 14:08.59 | petn-randall | vandman: then fix the ansible role. Add a single task that creates that dir. |
| 14:09.00 | mutante | or just that you are different mysql versions |
| 14:09.15 | vandman | I probably have to do something. But what? |
| 14:09.26 | petn-randall | vandman: Because a typo would cause your mysql dir ending up somewhere you might not want it, without noticing. |
| 14:09.46 | vandman | I did that on the VM. |
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| 14:10.53 | vandman | I saw in CentOS this line: /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --defaults-file="$conffile" |
| 14:11.02 | vandman | but not in Debian? |
| 14:11.31 | petn-randall | ⦠|
| 14:11.38 | petn-randall | vandman: Stop ignoring what I said. |
| 14:11.58 | annadane | vandman, you're repeating yourself - we're unlikely to know why such and such works in centos because most of us don't know centos |
| 14:12.04 | vandman | mutante: yes |
| 14:12.06 | annadane | the goal is to get it working in debian, not compare it to centos |
| 14:12.07 | babilen | Generally speaking you'd stop MySQL, copy content from /var/lib/mysql (or previous datadir) to the new location, adjust the setting and then start again |
| 14:12.10 | petn-randall | vandman: You spent half an hour discussing something that can easily be resolved by adding a *single* task to your ansible role. |
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| 14:13.10 | zodd | full paste: http://paste.debian.net/1027590/ |
| 14:13.57 | vandman | Creating the directory does not chage the result. the service wont start. I have already tryed. |
| 14:14.28 | babilen | vandman: Alternatively: Create datadir and run the /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --defaults-file="$conffile" command you identified as missing earlier |
| 14:15.00 | vandman | I tryed to. But it says there is no socket |
| 14:15.10 | greycat | zodd: well, it says it exited with status 0 (success), so you're going to have to figure out why the process did an exit(0); with no messages written to stdout or stderr |
| 14:15.24 | petn-randall | vandman: Then your problem is not the missing dir. |
| 14:15.25 | babilen | vandman: Creating the directory alone is not sufficient, you will have to populate it with the necessary data. Debian does this during the installation of the package for /var/lib/mysql which is why it would, IMHO, be most idiomatic to mount whatever volume you want to use there |
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| 14:16.01 | Andrew_0010bit | Neat! A new place to hang out. |
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| 14:16.15 | vandman | That is what I need: populate it with the necessary data |
| 14:16.15 | babilen | vandman: Did you also adjust the socket path in the MySQL configuration? |
| 14:16.19 | zodd | greycat, ty, I was just wondering how to do that. As when I execute the ExecStart line manually from shell it all works fine |
| 14:16.23 | annadane | Andrew_0010bit, leave now before the addiction takes root |
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| 14:16.39 | Andrew_0010bit | That said, I was wondering if it is worth it to do a local repository for Debian like perhaps WSUS. |
| 14:16.42 | Andrew_0010bit | LOL, annadane. |
| 14:16.52 | babilen | vandman: Yes, and /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --datadir=/foo/bar/data does that |
| 14:17.02 | Andrew_0010bit | like the Windows-equivalent WSUS* |
| 14:17.12 | greycat | zodd: does it have its own log files somewhere that you can read? |
| 14:17.17 | Andrew_0010bit | I found dak and whatnot, but I don't want like EVERY package. just some. |
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| 14:19.01 | babilen | vandman: My recommendation would still be to: 1. Mount whatever you want to use to /var/lib/mysql 2. Run MySQL containerised and provide a suitable volume 3. Run MySQL in a VM where you can do 1. |
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| 14:19.52 | zodd | greycat, there is in /var/log/varnish only a log of a related, yet, not configured package: varnishncsa |
| 14:20.05 | vandman | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.38 | babilen | vandman: But if you want to use a different datadir on Debian you have to to: 1. Stop the service, create suitable directories and content (cf. /usr/bin/mysql_install_db and /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql*.postinst) |
| 14:21.07 | babilen | Adjust the setting and then start it again |
| 14:21.17 | babilen | Alternative copy data over from /var/lib/mysql |
| 14:21.48 | zodd | oh. And the logs are size=0 |
| 14:21.50 | vandman | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.30 | babilen | vandman: --datadir does not take the path to the defaults file, but the path to the datadir |
| 14:23.39 | babilen | Please refer to the mysql_install_db manpage, which mentions settings such as --defaults-file=filename -- I'd also recommend to read the postinst script I referenced earlier |
| 14:24.01 | babilen | Still believe that the easiest approach is to keep /var/lib/mysql and to simply bind mount your volume there |
| 14:24.18 | babilen | (or mount) |
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| 14:26.23 | babilen | You could also get fancy and deploy a policy-rc.d file that prevents MySQL from starting, let postinst run, move data from /var/lib/mysql to your desired location, restore policy-rc.d and then start the service .. but that's getting a bit ridiculous and unidiomatic |
| 14:26.58 | babilen | So: Either use the data generated by the postinst script or generate it yourself |
| 14:27.55 | vandman | OK, /usr/bin/mysql_install_db --datadir=/datadir worked, the directory is field with mysql, performance_schema. |
| 14:28.00 | babilen | You have those two options. If you decide to use the first you have to either use /var/lib/mysql as datadir or move the content of that directory elsewhere. If you decide to generate it yourself you have to figure out the exact incantation of /usr/bin/mysql_install_db (and other) commands |
| 14:28.15 | vandman | the service is not loading. It fail |
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| 14:28.32 | babilen | Did it drink to much Bunnahabain? |
| 14:28.36 | babilen | *too |
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| 15:02.26 | greycat | "Try it and see" "Why" |
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| 15:07.54 | jelly | mrtnt: no. That package is not multiarch coinstallable. Probably no binary .deb that brings compiled executables can be made coinstallable. |
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| 15:08.22 | greycat | Because they would both try to create /usr/bin/foobar and obviously dpkg won't let that happen. |
| 15:08.31 | greycat | Which leaves "Why" |
| 15:08.54 | jelly | dpkg CAN let that happen if the packages bring the exact same file, and the control file mentions that fact |
| 15:08.54 | dpkg | jelly: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 15:09.43 | jelly | I could hazard a guess for the "why" part, but why |
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| 15:12.04 | Haohmaru | you know you're a debian h4x0r when you talk to dpkg, and dpkg talks back |
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| 15:12.33 | greycat | It used to say "You are idiot #1", "You are idiot #2", etc. |
| 15:13.08 | jelly | has an unholy mix of i386 and amd64 at home. apt just LOVES complaining when an i386 system only has util-linux:amd64 but not the Essential native one |
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| 15:14.53 | mrtnt | ok, thanks! |
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| 16:01.33 | uberwag | hi, how do i install gcrypt/libgcrypt in debian? |
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| 16:05.41 | furrymcgee | apt install libgcrypt20 |
| 16:07.25 | furrymcgee | apt install libgcrypt20-doc |
| 16:07.35 | greycat | you probably want a -dev package if you're compiling something |
| 16:08.04 | furrymcgee | see /usr/share/doc/libgcrypt20-doc/html/index.html |
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| 16:39.38 | gutte_ | ahh |
| 16:39.42 | gutte_ | debian |
| 16:41.06 | DarkiYahu | Hello there people |
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| 17:14.45 | volodim | hello |
| 17:14.52 | volodim | i got an issue with pulseaudio |
| 17:15.03 | volodim | can't kill it, keeps respawn, even with autospawn=no |
| 17:15.09 | volodim | no sound at all |
| 17:15.20 | volodim | pavucontrol can't connect |
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| 17:15.50 | volodim | pulseaudio -D doesn't work : failed to start demon |
| 17:16.16 | volodim | i've tried remove and reinstall it but no way |
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| 17:18.59 | mfermin | Hello guys! I would like to set up a server at home for web hosting. Which version/fork of the Debian OS and applications would you recommend? It'll be mostly a LAMP Stack. |
| 17:19.10 | greycat | Stable. |
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| 17:20.35 | tharkun | !segy |
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| 17:21.54 | jrgilman | Hey I'm trying to add a DPA (https://packages.sury.org/php/), and after doing so I ran apt-get update, but when i do apt-cache search php7.2-dev it doesn't come up with anything even though when you look in the Packages file at https://packages.sury.org/php/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/ the php7.2-dev package is there. So I'm curious what I'm missing here... |
| 17:21.56 | tharkun | mfermin: take your pick and look around. Many use apache and IIRC it is to some extension installed by default on debian, but depending on what you want to run on top of it you might want something else |
| 17:22.39 | mfermin | @tharkun I Want to run Apache |
| 17:22.48 | tharkun | !@ |
| 17:22.48 | dpkg | @ is used to separate the username from the hostname in an email address, to denote channel operators on IRC, and to direct comments to particular users in some web forums. It is NOT used to direct comments on IRC; use "name: ..." instead of "@name ...". |
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| 17:23.44 | greycat | ,v php7.2-dev |
| 17:23.45 | judd | Package: php7.2-dev on amd64 -- buster: 7.2.4-1+b2; sid: 7.2.4-1+b2 |
| 17:23.50 | mfermin | tharkun: I want to run Apache |
| 17:24.08 | tharkun | jrgilman: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 17:24.22 | jrgilman | 9.4 |
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| 17:24.45 | jrgilman | This is inside a docker container btw, if that matters |
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| 17:25.30 | costello_ | Dear Sirs, /usr/bin/g++-7 is in package g++-7, like /usr/bin/gcc-7 is in package gcc-7. /usr/bin/gcc-8 is in package gcc-8 but apt-cache finds no g++-8, in unstable. Is it really so that gcc-8 is there but there is no g++-8 ??? |
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| 17:27.14 | bites | ,v g++-8 |
| 17:27.16 | judd | Package: g++-8 on amd64 -- buster: 8.1.0-3; sid: 8.1.0-5 |
| 17:27.31 | bites | costello_: sure it wasn't a typo? |
| 17:27.42 | costello_ | I'm on i686, does that matter? |
| 17:28.03 | bites | i don't think so, no. |
| 17:28.30 | greycat | Most likely your mirror simply isn't caught up yet. Give it a few minutes, apt-get update again. |
| 17:29.07 | costello_ | Is it so that g++-8 arrived into repo just recently? I'm using those mirror-redirects in my apt.config.. |
| 17:29.27 | greycat | judd reported 8.1.0-5 so it's at least the 5th try |
| 17:29.40 | costello_ | hahaa :) |
| 17:30.23 | bites | and it's built from the same source package as gcc |
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| 17:31.53 | jrgilman | tharkun: any ideas? I may just grab the .deb manually and install it that way, just slightly annoying. |
| 17:32.34 | greycat | jrgilman: there is no php7.2 in stable. |
| 17:32.49 | jrgilman | greycat: I added another repo |
| 17:32.54 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 17:32.57 | greycat | *plonk* |
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| 17:33.48 | jrgilman | okay, so can you link me something to explain what I clearly don't understand |
| 17:33.54 | jrgilman | or at least tell me what to search for |
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| 17:36.29 | bites | jrgilman: what's the line you added to sources.list |
| 17:36.39 | bites | jrgilman: did apt update complain about missing keys? |
| 17:36.44 | jrgilman | deb https://packages.sury.org/php/ stretch main |
| 17:36.50 | jrgilman | no |
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| 17:37.06 | jrgilman | http://vpaste.net/22myV |
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| 17:37.24 | greycat | bites: I bet it's something like "http://ppa.ubuntulover.com/unstable/experimental radioactive main" |
| 17:37.44 | jrgilman | greycat: you're being extremely condescending |
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| 17:38.38 | bites | so when you type in apt-cache policy php7.2-dev it shows nothing? |
| 17:38.55 | bites | greycat: i guestt sury.org is one of the lesser evils if you really need it. |
| 17:39.02 | bites | * guess |
| 17:39.17 | jrgilman | I didn't know about policy, it indeed shows up |
| 17:39.28 | bites | then what's the problem? :D |
| 17:39.56 | jrgilman | http://vpaste.net/y7MUj |
| 17:40.37 | jrgilman | apt-cache search turns up nothing too |
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| 17:40.55 | bites | and apt-cache policy does show a candidate? that would be very strange. |
| 17:41.01 | jrgilman | yep |
| 17:41.25 | jrgilman | http://vpaste.net/bTjtk |
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| 17:41.35 | jrgilman | oh wait |
| 17:41.39 | jrgilman | a "candidate" |
| 17:41.43 | jrgilman | so i guess not |
| 17:41.55 | user03_ | hello, postfix is not writing to /var/log/mail.log there is no mail.log file, what can i do? |
| 17:42.04 | jrgilman | but it is under the version table |
| 17:42.12 | greycat | Make sure rsyslog is installed and running. |
| 17:42.13 | bites | wonder why it doesn't take is as a candidate. the pinning looks normal. |
| 17:42.32 | jrgilman | does it matter than this is in a docker container? |
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| 17:42.44 | bites | don't think so. it shouldn't. |
| 17:42.54 | jrgilman | That's what I thought I guess |
| 17:43.10 | bites | is it the base stretch container? |
| 17:43.18 | jrgilman | no php:7.2-apache |
| 17:43.28 | bites | ah |
| 17:43.43 | jrgilman | https://github.com/docker-library/php/blob/cf5482724142c2c249c7f873b0f7f4910e502b63/7.2/stretch/apache/Dockerfile |
| 17:43.47 | jrgilman | It's based on debian:stretch-slim |
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| 17:45.06 | jrgilman | Let me try to start a clean instance of this image and try again |
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| 17:47.04 | ewtvb | hello. anyone have experience with setup hashcat on debian 9 stretch? also i might installed bumble in past .. |
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| 17:47.36 | ewtvb | PS: I joined #hashcat but asking here too because if someone might know... |
| 17:48.03 | jgkamat | Hey, I have a really horrible question. Lets say Debian 9 upgraded a package which broke something so I must downgrade it to the oldstable version. Whats the best way to go about doing this? I could add the old repo and pin the package to that repo, but that seems very hacky... |
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| 17:48.29 | greycat | If it's just one package with no other deps needed, you could download it from packages.debian.org by hand. |
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| 17:49.09 | jgkamat | greycat: wouldn't the package get upgraded on the next upgrade or dist upgrade though? I could pin it somehow I guess |
| 17:49.18 | greycat | Otherwise, you can add a standard jessie line to sources.list and apt-get install it that way. No pinning needed. |
| 17:49.27 | greycat | !hold |
| 17:49.27 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
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| 17:50.08 | jrgilman | bites: same crap |
| 17:50.37 | bites | jrgilman: i'm checking it out, download takes a minute. |
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| 17:50.50 | jrgilman | thanks a ton for your help |
| 17:51.25 | jgkamat | greycat: ah, hold was what I was looking for, thanks :) |
| 17:51.35 | jrgilman | I'm using the script he has in the README: https://packages.sury.org/php/README.txt |
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| 17:51.49 | jrgilman | well |
| 17:51.53 | jrgilman | just the last 4 lines |
| 17:51.54 | jrgilman | but yeah |
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| 17:56.44 | ewtvb | i think my debian works fine rather than windows because i dont have gpu drivers. :< |
| 17:57.51 | bites | jrgilman: yeah, they did something to the apt preferences. in /etc/apt/preferences.d you will find a config that manipulates the pinning of all packages php* remove that then it works again. i'm sure they had a reason to put it there, but then you will have to ask the creator of that image. |
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| 17:59.53 | jrgilman | well then |
| 18:00.02 | jrgilman | thanks a ton for the help, I never would have figured this out on my own |
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| 18:00.14 | bites | no problem, i was curious. |
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| 18:02.07 | bites | jrgilman: well, the reason is obviously to prevent you from installing php7.0 from the debian repositories and break their 7.2 installation. |
| 18:02.25 | jrgilman | yeah, that's logical |
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| 18:16.21 | k3rn3lpan1c | Pardon me if this has been discussed here already. When using DHCP, dhclient usually rewrites resolv.conf and I know I don't have my "nameserver" pointing to my gateway IP including "search" directive to "lan". Where is this coming from and how can I modify this? Updating /etc/resolv.conf gets re-written after reboot. I'm using debian 9 stretch |
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| 18:18.03 | somiaj | you can modify dhclient to tell it what to add, or you can use some third party tool like resolvconf or openresolv to help manage /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:18.21 | somiaj | for dhclient, check /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 18:28.01 | k3rn3lpan1c | somaij: even after modifing my /etc/resolv.conf it gets prepended with my gateway ip and search "lan" |
| 18:28.55 | k3rn3lpan1c | somaij: my /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf is standard config nothing much to see there |
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| 18:29.28 | greycat | !fix resolv.conf |
| 18:29.28 | dpkg | takes resolv.conf to the vet for a "special" visit. |
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| 18:29.57 | greycat | !fixresolvconf |
| 18:29.57 | dpkg | To fix your /etc/resolv.conf: edit /etc/dhcp{,3}/dhclient.conf to include the nameservers you want to use (ask me about <override dns>). Alternatively, use <resolvconf> and specify the nameservers yourself: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base; resolvconf -u (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). Also ask me about <fixresolvconf the ugly way>. |
| 18:30.16 | greycat | !fixresolvconf the ugly way |
| 18:30.16 | dpkg | If you can't be bothered configuring either <resolvconf> or your DHCP client to properly handle your DNS settings, then you can do this: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolv.conf && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf (where a.b.c.d and w.x.y.z are your ISPs nameservers). But realise that this is a truly ugly hack. |
| 18:30.43 | greycat | disagrees about about ugly part. |
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| 18:32.45 | greycat | When NetworkManager on a Centos-derivative box decided to completely wipe ALL but comments from the resolv.conf file, did I waste hours trying to figure out how CentOS works, and then how NetworkManager works, and then how this derivative of CentOS works? Nope! |
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| 18:33.35 | greycat | vi + chattr means it's fixed, right now, for good, on ANY linux box, no worries about future upgrades or "did I miss this one bizarre corner case". |
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| 18:35.04 | k3rn3lpan1c | dpkg: maybe I am missing something here but I have modified my /etc/resolv.conf with the nameservers that I want which is sticking, what's irratating to me is the line that gets prepended to w/ nameserver to my gateway IP |
| 18:35.04 | dpkg | k3rn3lpan1c: what are you talking about? |
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| 18:36.50 | k3rn3lpan1c | including "search lan". I want to remove these entries permanently |
| 18:37.19 | greycat | The easy way would be to make sure /etc/resolv.conf is a plain file and not a symlink, edit it, and then chattr +i it. |
| 18:37.36 | greycat | The hard way is to try to untangle all that other crap. |
| 18:38.15 | k3rn3lpan1c | greycat: oh so delete the symlink and create new /etc/resolv.conf file? |
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| 18:38.45 | greycat | Those two steps *alone* are not enough. |
| 18:39.32 | greycat | If the resolvconf package is installed and is currently managing the file, then you can configure resolvconf the way you like, if you don't want to do the chattr. |
| 18:39.57 | greycat | resolvconf is the second easiest way. |
| 18:41.33 | petn-randall | k3rn3lpan1c: It's most likely coming from your DHCP server. |
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| 18:48.57 | uniqdom | I'm using debian stretch. I have opened a new DISPLAY (:2), i have launched an xterm there. How can i launch a full desktop enviroment (cinnamon or gnome) from there? |
| 18:49.10 | uniqdom | startx? |
| 18:49.59 | greycat | Run whatever command it is to start the GNOME session. Which I think is "gnome-session". |
| 18:50.04 | greycat | Inside the xterm. |
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| 18:51.55 | uniqdom | gnome-session shows this: https://imgur.com/a/rDMj5zV |
| 18:52.34 | uniqdom | oh no! something gone wrong. A problem has ocurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. And there is a Log Out button. |
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| 18:53.26 | greycat | Someone who knows GNOME better than I will have to confirm, but maybe your alternative display (:2) doesn't have all the stupid-fancy-crap features that GNOME wants to use. |
| 18:53.57 | greycat | Oftentimes, displays other than :0 are missing video driver acceleration or something. |
| 18:54.02 | k3rn3lpan1c | greycat: ok installed resolvconf and after install it has symlined to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf... |
| 18:54.33 | k3rn3lpan1c | greycat: let me modify and reboot and see if this sticks |
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| 18:54.55 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf |
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| 18:55.09 | greycat | If you choose to use resolvconf, you have to configure it. |
| 18:55.22 | greycat | I said it was the *second* easiest. |
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| 18:57.41 | limbo_ | lxd init isn't able to create a virtual network interface, saying the address: "10.0.0.1" is already in use. Any ideas what might be wrong? error message to follow |
| 18:58.03 | limbo_ | " Error: Failed to create network 'lxdbr0': Failed to run: dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --pid-file=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.pid --except-interface=lo --interface=lxdbr0 --quiet-dhcp --quiet-dhcp6 --quiet-ra --listen-address=10.0.0.1 --dhcp-no-override --dhcp-authoritative --dhcp-leasefile=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.leases |
| 18:58.09 | limbo_ | --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.hosts --dhcp-range 10.0.0.2,10.255.255.254,1h -s lxd -S /lxd/ --conf-file=/var/snap/lxd/common/lxd/networks/lxdbr0/dnsmasq.raw -u nobody: dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 10.0.0.1: Address already in use " |
| 18:59.00 | petn-randall | limbo_: It might help, for readibility purposes, to use a paste site. The other reason is the bot might kick you if you paste too much in the channel. |
| 18:59.19 | limbo_ | petn-randall: I thought it'd fit into one line. one second.... |
| 18:59.37 | petn-randall | limbo_: dnsmasq: failed to create listening socket for 10.0.0.1: Address already in use |
| 19:00.03 | petn-randall | limbo_: ^^^ That's your problem right there. You've already got a daemon, possibly another dnsmasq, already listening there. |
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| 19:00.52 | limbo_ | https://paste.debian.net/plainh/15d6a455 |
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| 19:01.08 | limbo_ | ifconfig doesn't show anything on 10.0.0.1. |
| 19:01.41 | petn-randall | limbo_: ifconfig only shows you interface config. To see which daemons are listening where, you need to run 'netstat -npl'. |
| 19:03.04 | limbo_ | same deal. Nothing on 10.x.x.x (unless you count 0.0.0.0) |
| 19:03.06 | greycat | or "ss -lt" or similar |
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| 19:03.59 | petn-randall | limbo_: Can you paste the command + output? |
| 19:04.26 | limbo_ | which command? |
| 19:04.47 | petn-randall | limbo_: 'netstat -npl' |
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| 19:06.08 | limbo_ | here's the internet part: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/bcc2b87d do you want the second part, with the sockets? |
| 19:06.50 | uniqdom | is there a log of this channel somewhere? |
| 19:07.15 | uniqdom | a few minutes ago I said: I'm using debian stretch. I have opened a new DISPLAY (:2), i have launched an xterm there. How can i launch a full desktop enviroment (cinnamon or gnome) from there? |
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| 19:07.40 | uniqdom | i have run gnome-session in that display |
| 19:07.48 | uniqdom | gnome-session shows this: https://imgur.com/a/rDMj5zV |
| 19:07.53 | uniqdom | oh no! something gone wrong. A problem has ocurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again. And there is a Log Out button. |
| 19:08.23 | petn-randall | limbo_: So you got something running on 0.0.0.0:53, that's blocking it. |
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| 19:08.35 | uniqdom | I have clicked that button, it has log me out in that display, and in :0 (my current display) |
| 19:08.36 | limbo_ | uniqdom: startx, maybe. |
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| 19:09.17 | limbo_ | petn-randall: oh, cool. Can I restart the DNS server after creating the interface? |
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| 19:10.18 | petn-randall | limbo_: Maybe? I don't know what your goal is. |
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| 19:11.57 | greycat | sets up a new cron job to work around #860928 |
| 19:11.57 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/860928 in dnssec-trigger,isc-dhcp-client (open): «dnssec-trigger + isc-dhcp-client: /etc/ being cluttered with tons of resolv.conf.dhclient-new.* files»; severity: important; opened: 2017-04-22; last modified: 2017-10-28. |
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| 19:12.46 | k3rn3lpan1c | petn-randall: I haven't configured my DHCP to point my namserver to my gateway IP. |
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| 19:13.06 | greycat | *did* you configure the DHCP server at all? or is it just doing its factory default? |
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| 19:13.47 | limbo_ | petn-randall: I'm running a DNS server on the server, I want the containers on that server to be able to access the internet (NAT/proxy/whatever), and still have the DNS server work. |
| 19:13.54 | limbo_ | Should work though. |
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| 19:17.48 | bites | the dns server shouldn't matter, the dhcp server that you seem to have running on that machine seems to be the problem. |
| 19:18.37 | bites | in case it is dnsmasq, pretty sure dhcp is disabled by default. |
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| 19:19.20 | petn-randall | k3rn3lpan1c: Then I recommend fixing the DHCP server instead of doctoring the symptoms. |
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| 19:20.00 | petn-randall | limbo_: Then you need to configure lxc to not spawn it's own dnsmasq, and configure yours to do whatever lxc's would od. |
| 19:20.03 | petn-randall | *do. |
| 19:20.20 | uniqdom | starx shows me this https://paste.debian.net/1027625/ |
| 19:20.58 | uniqdom | when trying to run it in another display |
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| 19:24.26 | uniqdom | startx finally terminated with this message: Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console https://paste.debian.net/1027626/ |
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| 19:34.15 | blaztek | uniqdom: does it work is you don't use gdm? I mean startx and then on :3? |
| 19:35.05 | blaztek | s/is/if/ |
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| 19:35.27 | Inconvenience | helo gaize |
| 19:35.31 | Inconvenience | o/ |
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| 19:36.50 | k3rn3lpan1c | i did but my dumb DHCP router doesn't have DNS options, instead configured my network manager, nm-connection-editor for my dns settings |
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| 19:39.18 | limbo_ | petn-randall: Can I just configure my regular dns server to not bind to port 53 on 10.0.0.1? |
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| 19:43.32 | styks198- | anyone know offhand what replaced parted move in 3? |
| 19:43.52 | ewtvb | greycat: i dont have it |
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| 19:44.07 | ewtvb | oh nvm |
| 19:44.32 | annadane | styks198-, what are you referring to when you say 3? |
| 19:44.46 | styks198- | annadane: parted v3 |
| 19:44.57 | annadane | ,v parted |
| 19:44.58 | judd | Package: parted on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.3-12; jessie: 3.2-7; stretch: 3.2-17; buster: 3.2-21+b1; sid: 3.2-21+b1 |
| 19:45.15 | greycat | Shit, who killed dpkg? |
| 19:45.23 | ewtvb | what |
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| 19:45.51 | styks198- | 3.2-17 |
| 19:46.00 | ewtvb | 3 |
| 19:46.02 | ewtvb | 2 |
| 19:46.03 | ewtvb | 1 |
| 19:46.12 | annadane | styks198-, i still don't understand your question |
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| 19:46.24 | ewtvb | annadane: you are a bot? |
| 19:46.27 | jhutchins_wk | judd: v parted |
| 19:46.28 | windblow | hi, ~/.xsession defines which window manager xdm runs, right? |
| 19:46.28 | judd | Package: parted on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.3-12; jessie: 3.2-7; stretch: 3.2-17; buster: 3.2-21+b1; sid: 3.2-21+b1 |
| 19:46.35 | styks198- | â the following commands were removed: check, cp, mkfs, mkpartfs, move, resize.â |
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| 19:46.50 | windblow | the man page doesnt make it clear which configuration file it first loads, hence the question |
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| 19:47.09 | jhutchins_wk | dondelelcaro: dpkg MIA |
| 19:47.13 | greycat | windblow: https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession |
| 19:47.31 | styks198- | annadane: wondering how to move a partition with version 3 |
| 19:47.42 | k3rn3lpan1c | wasn't me |
| 19:47.58 | annadane | oh, compared to version 2... did you read the documentation? |
| 19:48.00 | k3rn3lpan1c | ;-) |
| 19:48.07 | bites | limbo_: are you using dnsmasq? you can make the dns server listen to a specific address. |
| 19:48.20 | annadane | anyway, a better question would be, "how do i move a partition with parted", your initial question was confusing |
| 19:48.34 | annadane | if you're using debian stretch, you have parted version 3 |
| 19:48.46 | styks198- | annadane: yes, but I know hwo to move it in 2 just not in 3 |
| 19:48.49 | bites | limbo_: yours listens to 0.0.0.0:53 which is a problem. i take back what i said earlier. |
| 19:49.02 | ewtvb | greycat: any idea what these lines mean? [ 52.018] (II) modeset(0): Output eDP-1 has no monitor section [ 52.019] (II) modeset(0): Output HDMI-1 has no monitor section [ 52.020] (II) modeset(0): EDID for output eDP-1 |
| 19:49.06 | styks198- | Iâm not seeing any reference to moving a partition in the docs |
| 19:49.57 | greycat | ewtvb: well, I believe it means you're using the modeset driver. |
| 19:50.07 | ewtvb | what is that :O |
| 19:50.11 | greycat | !modeset |
| 19:50.16 | greycat | .... fuck, WHO KILLED DPKG |
| 19:50.20 | ewtvb | topkek |
| 19:50.23 | ewtvb | (meme here) |
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| 19:51.06 | mutante | !fix dpkg |
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| 19:51.21 | ewtvb | !help |
| 19:51.26 | ewtvb | lolllllllll |
| 19:51.56 | ewtvb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:52.12 | mutante | @seen dpkg |
| 19:52.13 | ewtvb | NOTE: The backup bots are not always online |
| 19:52.43 | ewtvb | debhelper |
| 19:52.46 | ewtvb | !debhelper |
| 19:52.47 | annadane | dselect: modeset |
| 19:52.47 | dselect | annadane: i don't know |
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| 19:53.05 | ewtvb | !help debhelper |
| 19:53.08 | mutante | dselect: !fix dpkg |
| 19:53.08 | dselect | mutante: i haven't a clue |
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| 19:53.17 | annadane | ewtvb, mutante, please don't spam |
| 19:53.27 | ewtvb | annadane: mutante please don't spam |
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| 19:54.28 | mutante | well, i wanted to actually test if it knows the !fix command ,because dpkg did |
| 19:54.44 | ewtvb | !fix? the f*. lol |
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| 19:55.13 | ewtvb | greycat: any idea how to install nvidia drivers for hashcat? im on debian 9 stretch... also i dont want something bad happen |
| 19:55.27 | mutante | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.30 | mutante | and you see |
| 19:55.47 | annadane | what is hashcat |
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| 19:56.30 | ewtvb | secret |
| 19:56.31 | annadane | ewtvb, if you're on debian, install the nvidia-detect package and run it (not sure whether it has to be as root or not, try it as non root first) and it will tell you what you need |
| 19:57.03 | annadane | no it's not a "secret". we're not going to help you if you don't answer questions |
| 19:57.29 | ewtvb | i have nvidia-settings though.. |
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| 19:58.18 | ewtvb | nvidia-detect No NVIDIA GPU detected. |
| 19:58.20 | ewtvb | annadane: nvidia-detect No NVIDIA GPU detected. |
| 19:58.29 | ewtvb | was running on root. |
| 19:59.18 | uniqdom | blaztek: no, it doesn't work with startx. |
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| 19:59.30 | annadane | what does lspci -nn | grep -i VGA say? |
| 19:59.57 | ewtvb | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0416] (rev 06) |
| 20:00.03 | ewtvb | oh shit im old. |
| 20:00.06 | ewtvb | 4th gen. :< |
| 20:00.14 | ewtvb | what is the newest? 9? |
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| 20:00.44 | annadane | then you don't need nvidia drivers...? |
| 20:00.58 | ewtvb | why |
| 20:01.02 | ewtvb | i have nvidia gtx 860m........ |
| 20:01.03 | annadane | latest what? the latest debian is 9 |
| 20:01.13 | ewtvb | are you kidding me |
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| 20:01.27 | ewtvb | 01:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] [10de:1392] (rev ff) |
| 20:01.33 | ewtvb | lspci -nn | grep -i nvidia |
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| 20:05.59 | weenis | so fuckin hi on ZAN AX |
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| 20:11.28 | OS-38594 | hello |
| 20:11.42 | OS-38594 | i'm trying to do the buffer overflow lab on vulnserv.exe |
| 20:12.00 | OS-38594 | but when i do the mona modules command I see no process/dll that can be used |
| 20:12.05 | weenis | dude im so hi |
| 20:12.07 | annadane | that sounds not related to debian |
| 20:12.10 | OS-38594 | oh |
| 20:12.11 | OS-38594 | sorry |
| 20:12.17 | OS-38594 | i thought its offsec |
| 20:12.18 | weenis | and i think this zanax makes my dick longer |
| 20:12.23 | annadane | !ops ^ |
| 20:12.26 | annadane | sigh |
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| 20:12.34 | weenis | hi greycat |
| 20:12.37 | weenis | wanna touch it? |
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| 20:12.52 | ewtvb | help. |
| 20:13.33 | annadane | anyway, i don't know which nvidia package you need |
| 20:13.38 | annadane | maybe someone else has a better idea |
| 20:13.47 | ewtvb | also i think i have Bumblebee |
| 20:14.31 | greycat | If your lspci shows both Intel and Nvidia chipsets, then you probably do have some Optimus thing. |
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| 20:14.59 | ewtvb | i have optirun |
| 20:16.17 | jgkamat | I sometimes get that error when I upgrade kernel without rebooting, just making sure that's not the case for you |
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| 20:19.58 | annadane | jgkamat, is this a question, or in response to a user? generally i think you should reboot after kernel upgrades |
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| 20:20.28 | jgkamat | yah, that was in response to ewtvb, usually when I see that it means I just forgot to reboot :P |
| 20:20.40 | ewtvb | what? |
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| 20:21.04 | jgkamat | ewtvb: you're rebooting after installing bumblebee/nvidia drivers right? |
| 20:21.13 | ewtvb | i installed bumblebee long time ago |
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| 20:21.19 | ewtvb | i dont even remember how i did that. |
| 20:21.29 | ewtvb | i have nvidia-settings, optirun. ... |
| 20:21.32 | jgkamat | I hope it was from the repos :/ |
| 20:21.44 | ewtvb | repos of github or the apt? |
| 20:21.47 | jgkamat | apt |
| 20:21.51 | annadane | the debian repository |
| 20:21.52 | ewtvb | not sure |
| 20:21.58 | annadane | (apt) |
| 20:22.01 | ewtvb | can i get help with it? |
| 20:23.46 | ewtvb | can i get help plz? |
| 20:24.13 | jgkamat | I'm a bit confused where you're stuck |
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| 20:24.25 | jgkamat | you want to get hashcat working? Do programs run with optimus right now? |
| 20:24.26 | ewtvb | i want to make hashcat works |
| 20:24.54 | ewtvb | i dont have optimus just optirun |
| 20:25.13 | jgkamat | yah, that's what I meant. If you run hashcat with optirun does it work? |
| 20:25.19 | ewtvb | hmm |
| 20:25.43 | ewtvb | its not work. |
| 20:25.44 | jgkamat | sometimes I've had better luck with primusrun |
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| 20:25.54 | jgkamat | what does it say? |
| 20:26.00 | ewtvb | clGetDeviceIDs(): CL_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND |
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| 20:32.50 | jgkamat | it's possible your nvidia card isn't supported by hashcat either |
| 20:32.55 | jgkamat | looks good to me at least |
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| 20:33.46 | at0m | ,v irssi |
| 20:33.47 | judd | Package: irssi on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.8.15-5; wheezy-security: 0.8.15-5+deb7u6; wheezy-backports: 0.8.17-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.8.17-1+deb8u5; jessie-security: 0.8.17-1+deb8u5; stretch: 1.0.2-1+deb9u3; jessie-backports: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.0.7-1~deb9u1; buster: 1.0.7-1+b1; sid: 1.0.7-1+b1 |
| 20:34.09 | ewtvb | jgkamat: i got it work back on windows |
| 20:34.31 | jgkamat | ewtvb: are you using nvidia proprietary or nouveau |
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| 20:34.40 | ewtvb | no idea |
| 20:35.03 | jgkamat | if you are using nouveau, it's probably missing features in nouveau or something |
| 20:35.10 | ewtvb | how do i know? |
| 20:35.51 | jgkamat | not sure, I don't have a nvidia card on me right now to test with |
| 20:35.59 | jgkamat | you could check to see which driver packages are instaled |
| 20:36.36 | jgkamat | (https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers) |
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| 20:40.14 | ewtvb | jgkamat: not sure |
| 20:41.30 | ewtvb | jgkamat: dpkg -l | grep nouveau ii libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.74-1 amd64 Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.13-3 amd64 X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver |
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| 20:41.52 | jgkamat | do you have nvidia-driver installed (I think that's the proprietary one) |
| 20:41.59 | ewtvb | jgkamat: http://termbin.com/bheb |
| 20:42.17 | ewtvb | yes ii nvidia-driver 375.82-1~deb9u1 amd64 NVIDIA metapackage |
| 20:42.40 | ewtvb | wtf... |
| 20:42.41 | jgkamat | yah, no idea then, probably nvidia not supporting opencl on the linux drivers or something |
| 20:42.49 | ewtvb | so weird |
| 20:43.12 | ewtvb | jgkamat: https://hashcat.net/wiki/doku.php?id=frequently_asked_questions#i_may_have_the_wrong_driver_installed_what_should_i_do it says to uninstall current driver. no idea even how |
| 20:44.03 | ewtvb | jgkamat: http://termbin.com/lav2 |
| 20:44.08 | ewtvb | i have libopencl |
| 20:44.26 | jgkamat | yah, no clue then, I don't think a blind reinstall will help you |
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| 20:44.51 | ewtvb | im afraid to break the ssystem but i want to make hashcat work.. |
| 20:44.58 | annadane | what actually shows up if you update-alternatives --config glx? |
| 20:44.59 | ewtvb | ohSHIT |
| 20:45.11 | ewtvb | by accident i run find / -name libOpenCL\* -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf |
| 20:45.23 | annadane | rolls eyes |
| 20:45.29 | jgkamat | runs away |
| 20:45.46 | at0m | ewtvb: first, install nvidia-detect. that will tell you what nvidia version driver supports the card. |
| 20:46.07 | at0m | ewtvb: then remove all the others and install that one. |
| 20:46.15 | ewtvb | i installed nvidia-detect. nothing it shows! |
| 20:46.17 | ewtvb | at0m: ^ |
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| 20:47.00 | at0m | ewtvb: uh. no "Detected NVIDIA GPUs" ? |
| 20:47.17 | ewtvb | yes |
| 20:47.22 | ewtvb | No NVIDIA GPU detected. |
| 20:47.38 | at0m | yet lspci shows nvidia? |
| 20:48.02 | ewtvb | yes |
| 20:48.16 | ewtvb | 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] (rev ff) |
| 20:48.42 | jgkamat | maybe nvidia-detect won't work on optimus or something |
| 20:49.00 | at0m | jgkamat: it does here |
| 20:49.19 | ewtvb | nvidia hate linux |
| 20:49.53 | at0m | ewtvb: neither GM107M or 860M show up in apt search. |
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| 20:51.28 | at0m | so even if nvidia-detect saw it, it's not supported by any even proprietary nvidia drivers i think. |
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| 20:53.33 | ewtvb | nvidia-detect is just a bash script |
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| 20:55.33 | at0m | so i find 860M as supported hw in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz for nvidia driver version 390.48 |
| 20:56.03 | ewtvb | i found this http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/134262/en-us |
| 20:56.15 | at0m | ,v nvidia-driver |
| 20:56.17 | judd | Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.102-1; jessie-proposed-updates/non-free: 340.106-1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.130-1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.130-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+3; buster/non-free: 390.48-3; sid/non-free: 390.59-1 |
| 20:56.24 | uniqdom | xinit was the trick. startx and gnome-session wasn't working. |
| 20:56.25 | at0m | apt install nvidia-driver =) |
| 20:57.12 | greycat | If he really needs 390.48 then he'd want the stretch-backports one. Unless he's not in stretch. |
| 20:57.32 | ewtvb | at0m: ?? |
| 20:57.40 | jgkamat | it's also possible it's installed but blacklisted |
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| 20:57.44 | at0m | greycat: well, no, but 390.48 is what i have and which has that /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz |
| 20:58.28 | ewtvb | SO MANY ISSUES http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/390.59/README/knownissues.html |
| 20:58.47 | at0m | maybe someone on stable can zgrep 860M /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz |
| 20:59.15 | greycat | s/on stable/on stable who has nvidia-driver/ |
| 20:59.21 | at0m | right |
| 20:59.47 | annadane | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:00.24 | ewtvb | nvidia is piece of shit. hope they will die |
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| 21:01.59 | at0m | how about you try to install (or download the .deb and have dpkg extract it) nvidia-driver yourself, and then zgrep 860M /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz |
| 21:02.31 | ewtvb | and how that will hlep me? |
| 21:02.42 | greycat | The goal is to determine what driver to use. |
| 21:02.43 | at0m | if it lists that driver, it supports your card |
| 21:03.00 | greycat | If your card is listed in the stretch nvidia-driver docs, then use that. Maybe. |
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| 21:03.08 | at0m | *if it lists that card, it supports your card |
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| 21:04.11 | at0m | if it doesn't, you still got your intel gfx like you may have now and nothing is lost |
| 21:04.41 | greycat | ... if it doesn't appear in the docs for the stretch driver, then you can try the stretch-backports driver, which at0m says DOES list your card |
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| 21:05.12 | greycat | (Beyond that, I know nothing about these Optimus things.) |
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| 21:05.35 | ewtvb | at0m: zgrep 860M /usr/share/doc/nvidia-driver/README.txt.gz GeForce GTX 860M 119A D GeForce GTX 860M 1392 D GeForce GTX 860M 139B 1028 06A3 D |
| 21:05.45 | at0m | yay |
| 21:05.51 | ewtvb | interesting zgrep command |
| 21:06.07 | at0m | ewtvb: see zcat, zless etc |
| 21:06.18 | ewtvb | so now what? |
| 21:06.45 | at0m | now you have a driver that supports your nvidia card. |
| 21:06.59 | ewtvb | ok.. |
| 21:07.01 | at0m | update-alternatives --config glx |
| 21:07.05 | ewtvb | what? |
| 21:07.06 | annadane | now you throw out your computer with the nvidia card and write an angry letter telling nvidia not to be jerks and support open s... i mean, now you can progress with the solution to your problem |
| 21:07.06 | at0m | like annadane suggested |
| 21:07.25 | at0m | and select the nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver |
| 21:07.34 | ewtvb | annadane: there are a lot people who use linux for bitcoin mining. yet nvidia not help support. |
| 21:07.51 | ewtvb | at0m: how do i do? |
| 21:08.10 | at0m | update-alternatives --config glx |
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| 21:08.29 | at0m | once more, and you may donate your first mined coin to debian.org |
| 21:08.43 | ewtvb | update-alternatives --config glx There are 3 choices for the alternative glx (providing /usr/lib/glx). Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/nvidia/bumblebee 125 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/mesa-diverted 5 manual mode 2 /usr/lib/nvidia 100 manual mode 3 /usr/ |
| 21:08.53 | ewtvb | sorry. i forget how to paste |
| 21:09.05 | ewtvb | update-alternatives --config glx There are 3 choices for the alternative glx (providing /usr/lib/glx). Selection Path Priority Status ------------------------------------------------------------ * 0 /usr/lib/nvidia/bumblebee 125 auto mode 1 /usr/lib/mesa-diverted 5 manual mode 2 /usr/lib/nvidia 100 manual mode 3 /usr/ |
| 21:09.10 | ewtvb | shit. omg sorry.https://pastebin.com/raw/iPZz9qX9 |
| 21:09.45 | annadane | isn't one bitcoin something silly like 25,000 dollars |
| 21:09.51 | nbm | which package contains the official debian wallpapers with the swirl and all that? |
| 21:10.03 | ewtvb | annadane: it is now less. |
| 21:10.10 | at0m | annadane: that should cover support |
| 21:10.12 | ewtvb | and it was never 25k. it was 19.6k max |
| 21:10.27 | ewtvb | now its more less. |
| 21:10.36 | ewtvb | at0m: did you see it? |
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| 21:10.53 | annadane | nbm, there's a few packages, not sure it's just one package... you can apt search wallpaper and choose between those |
| 21:11.23 | annadane | the swirl is pretty common, xfce uses it as default, mate uses it as default |
| 21:11.31 | nbm | yep |
| 21:11.42 | nbm | and gnome-wallpaper package comes with nature photos |
| 21:11.46 | annadane | xfce manages to look terrible as default but that's off-topic... |
| 21:11.47 | at0m | ewtvb: pick the bumblebee. |
| 21:11.57 | ewtvb | at0m: its already picked? |
| 21:12.10 | ewtvb | also i ran it as non-root. |
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| 21:12.24 | annadane | update-alternatives needs to be run as root |
| 21:12.32 | at0m | well to just show you don't need root. so you're good to go. |
| 21:12.42 | ewtvb | ok:) |
| 21:12.46 | annadane | and then just reboot |
| 21:12.51 | ewtvb | again, it is already chose. |
| 21:13.03 | ewtvb | bumblebee is already chose |
| 21:13.20 | at0m | ewtvb: but the driver has just been installed, and set it to that. it may not be loaded for now |
| 21:13.54 | ewtvb | i didnt install anything |
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| 21:14.31 | at0m | does "/etc/init.d/bumblebeed status" say its running ok? |
| 21:14.52 | annadane | at0m, every time i see your name i think of the atom text editor :P |
| 21:15.05 | at0m | isnt me |
| 21:15.11 | ewtvb | at0m: yes |
| 21:15.31 | greycat | I keep thinking of the Intel Atom CPU |
| 21:15.45 | greycat | must be the context |
| 21:15.53 | at0m | there's lots of atoms |
| 21:16.08 | at0m | ewtvb: cos then it is. and you need to prepend commands using the nvidia card with optirun, like "optirun firefox". for mining, read their docs eh |
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| 21:16.35 | ewtvb | at0m: you are not clear. i tried optirun hashcat but its not work |
| 21:16.59 | at0m | whats not work? no output? no error? |
| 21:17.09 | ewtvb | same error |
| 21:17.18 | ewtvb | clGetDeviceIDs(): CL_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND |
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| 21:18.28 | at0m | first results on https://duckduckgo.com/?q=optirun+CL_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND are hashcat.net forums =) |
| 21:18.34 | at0m | maybe some other X app? |
| 21:19.37 | ewtvb | https://github.com/hashcat/hashcat/issues/436#issuecomment-392636702 not sure if i's safe to remove mesa-opencl-isd |
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| 21:19.49 | at0m | optirun xeyes :D |
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| 21:52.21 | Jaxx_ | Hi all. i havent installed debian yet,but hopefully i will. but i got 1 issue with it |
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| 21:54.43 | annadane | Jaxx_, okay, what's the issue? |
| 21:54.47 | Jaxx_ | When i try install debian and try the advanced options and then expert,I get this issue: https://share.riseup.net/#uqXH3nwl9nAnmDoX60Z3Pw .. Whats the reason for that issue? i mean os like linux mint cinnamon and kde worked fine to install without issue.. so why debian? |
| 21:55.02 | Jaxx_ | *expert install |
| 21:56.18 | Jaxx_ | i tried every option in the "Advanced options" and get the same issue |
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| 21:57.48 | annadane | oh dear |
| 21:58.50 | mutante | Jaxx_: there is "Expert Install" and separately "Graphic Expert Install" right. tried both of them yet? |
| 21:59.03 | mutante | Graphical |
| 21:59.13 | Jaxx_ | Yes.. all these options there get the same issue. not same colour though,but same issue |
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| 21:59.43 | Jaxx_ | And i did use this downloadlink: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 22:01.58 | mutante | Jaxx_: in your BIOS do you have an option called "CSM" / " Compatibility Support Module " Boot |
| 22:02.09 | mutante | if so, try flipping that |
| 22:03.02 | Jaxx_ | try flipping that? to what? and that suppose to b in the "Boot" section,right? |
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| 22:03.40 | mutante | to the setting it currently doesnt have. like a switch |
| 22:03.54 | mutante | but supposedly to ON |
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| 22:04.10 | ewtvb | hi. |
| 22:04.15 | Jaxx_ | yes.. but choose what if there is a option i have to choose and not a on or off switch |
| 22:04.22 | ewtvb | need help with make hashcat work. at0m hello. |
| 22:04.30 | mutante | Jaxx_: enabled |
| 22:05.24 | mutante | Jaxx_: it's UEFI related. compat mode for legacy BIOS |
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| 22:06.07 | Jaxx_ | i find it somehow there. I'll see what i can do.. once done if something doesnt go wrong,I'll b back here |
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| 22:19.17 | Jaxx_ | I just checked and i couldnt see anything |
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| 22:19.50 | ewtvb | ok going to remove bumlebee |
| 22:20.06 | Jaxx_ | And I still get that blue thingy u saw on that link |
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| 22:22.30 | Jaxx_ | Is that person i talked to before I left still here? :) |
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| 22:24.53 | Jaxx_ | annadane: Was it u i talked to before I left? |
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| 22:25.32 | annadane | yes |
| 22:25.49 | Jaxx_ | Ok |
| 22:25.50 | annadane | oh, most recently? |
| 22:25.59 | annadane | you were talking to... mutante |
| 22:26.02 | Jaxx_ | bfore I left when i was going to check the bios |
| 22:26.05 | Jaxx_ | oh |
| 22:26.07 | Jaxx_ | ty |
| 22:26.15 | Jaxx_ | so forgetful sometimes :p |
| 22:26.33 | Jaxx_ | mutante: U there? :) |
| 22:27.52 | ewtvb | do i remoe like that: apt purge *bumblebee* *nouveau* or wihout asterik? |
| 22:28.09 | ewtvb | becaue it will remove these : bumblebee* bumblebee-nvidia* libdrm-dev* libdrm-nouveau2* libegl1-mesa-dev* libgl1-mesa-dev* libgl1-mesa-dri* libglu1-mesa-dev* libgtk-3-dev* libqt5opengl5-dev* libxatracker2* mesa-common-dev* mesa-va-drivers* mesa-vdpau-drivers* primus* qt5-default* qtbase5-dev* task-desktop* vdpau-driver-all* xorg* xserver-xorg-video-all* xserver-xorg-video-nouveau* xserver-xorg-video-vmware* |
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| 22:29.01 | mutante | Jaxx_: any luck? |
| 22:29.05 | Jaxx_ | No |
| 22:29.17 | annadane | well, removing xorg itself is inconvenient |
| 22:29.24 | Jaxx_ | couldnt find it as i could see.. maybe its there,but different name,idk |
| 22:29.36 | Jaxx_ | But same colour thingy on that debian install |
| 22:30.03 | ewtvb | annadane: what do you recommend |
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| 22:31.04 | mutante | Jaxx_: anything about "legacy mode" UEFI bs BIO ? that was my only guess from similar reports |
| 22:31.41 | mutante | you can try getting into the shell from the installer and check logs to find more hints |
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| 22:32.03 | Jaxx_ | there was UEFI in Boot.. idk.. it was something with UEFI and legacy boot |
| 22:32.06 | annadane | ewtvb, i don't know |
| 22:32.35 | mutante | Jaxx_: try enabling the legacy boot / old option |
| 22:32.44 | ewtvb | task-desktop wtf |
| 22:33.18 | Jaxx_ | Wait. u mean enable all the options to legacy or just one? |
| 22:33.20 | annadane | ewtvb, what i would recommend is telling us why you want to remove bumblebee |
| 22:33.45 | ewtvb | annadane: i want to install nvidia package from official website |
| 22:33.49 | annadane | i'm kind of losing track of your problem but i'd take it slow and not rush anything |
| 22:33.51 | ewtvb | so i dont need bumblebee |
| 22:34.01 | annadane | okay, why? that's generally a good way to break your system |
| 22:34.03 | ewtvb | and from #hashcat they said to remove |
| 22:35.51 | ewtvb | annadane: see logs https://pastebin.com/raw/f2FAFUz1 |
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| 22:35.59 | ewtvb | ii think they troll me and want me to ruin system :< |
| 22:36.20 | Jaxx_ | So what to do? |
| 22:36.22 | annadane | ewtvb, okay, first start with, did you set out what you wanted to accomplish, do you have a working system |
| 22:36.38 | annadane | did you fix your graphics problems, as i said i kind of lost track |
| 22:36.51 | ewtvb | annadane: i want to install graphics driver for using hashcat |
| 22:37.05 | annadane | can you just explain what hashcat is? |
| 22:37.22 | Jaxx_ | mutante: I got a feeling its either: my usb,my laptop cant handle debian or something wrong with the iso i got |
| 22:37.38 | annadane | i think the furthest we got earlier last time i was paying attention was update-alternatives --config glx |
| 22:37.59 | ewtvb | annadane: it's for bruteforcing hashes. |
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| 22:38.39 | annadane | echoing greycat, i also am not super familiar with optimus |
| 22:38.58 | annadane | i'd probably just install the one that works and is available in the debian repository if possible and not install from nvidia's site |
| 22:39.01 | annadane | !don't break debia |
| 22:39.03 | annadane | !don't break debian |
| 22:39.08 | annadane | dpkg, come on |
| 22:39.08 | dpkg | wish i knew, annadane |
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| 22:39.11 | annadane | !don't break debian |
| 22:39.11 | dpkg | dont break debian is, like, https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 22:39.14 | ewtvb | annadane: why spam |
| 22:39.28 | annadane | because you should read item 2 in that link |
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| 22:39.41 | annadane | https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_use_GPU_manufacturer_install_scripts |
| 22:40.03 | annadane | sometimes people have to do things like that but it's quite niche and has the potential of breaking things |
| 22:40.24 | ewtvb | yes |
| 22:40.31 | ewtvb | so how do i get gpu driver work? |
| 22:40.34 | Jaxx_ | mutante? |
| 22:41.24 | annadane | well it depends on what you mean by work, i don't know what's required for hashcat, and i suspect it's not relevant, if you need power i'd probably install the nvidia proprietary driver and i think that was discussed earlier as being the solution |
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| 22:41.50 | annadane | you had problems IIRC with nvidia-detect not working |
| 22:42.08 | annadane | but i think it's possible to figure out what package you need just via hardware information, sorry, i don't remember the entire discussion |
| 22:42.12 | ewtvb | annadane: nvida-detect not show output = not work. and its need gpu to make it work |
| 22:43.16 | ewtvb | at0m: are you there? |
| 22:43.51 | Jaxx_ | mutante: So what do I have to do? |
| 22:44.26 | annadane | i'm wondering whether you can't just install nvidia-driver and be done with it... anyway, even if i don't have the solution, don't go rushing and just start removing things |
| 22:44.49 | mutante | Jaxx_: try them all, but not all at once.. one at a time. enable, try booting, go back to how it was before. try next .. |
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| 22:45.20 | annadane | do you really "need" proprietary graphics to make hashcat work at all or are you just looking for more power |
| 22:45.22 | Jaxx_ | Whats the correct download link for debian for my 64 bit laptop? need to b sure if its the right iso |
| 22:45.37 | annadane | for installation over the internet? |
| 22:45.51 | annadane | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 22:45.53 | ewtvb | annadane: its not looking for more power. its just what i have seems not work. how do i know gpu works? |
| 22:46.00 | ewtvb | how do i use the gpu functionality? |
| 22:46.13 | annadane | better question: does hashcat work at all, if it does, i don't see the problem |
| 22:46.42 | ewtvb | its not work. its give me an error |
| 22:46.55 | annadane | are you sure that error can be solved by using different graphics? |
| 22:47.07 | annadane | and what error is it? |
| 22:47.11 | ewtvb | before installed bumblebee i didnt have it |
| 22:47.15 | ewtvb | hmm |
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| 22:47.34 | ewtvb | CL_DEVICE_NOT_FOUND |
| 22:48.08 | Jaxx_ | its the correct one i used. i try another usb and see there |
| 22:48.47 | annadane | when at0m gets back, they may be able to help you |
| 22:48.50 | annadane | i don't know how to proceed |
| 22:48.59 | ewtvb | i will remove bumblebee |
| 22:49.01 | annadane | sigh |
| 22:49.02 | annadane | fine |
| 22:49.04 | ewtvb | i think its shit |
| 22:49.04 | annadane | you do you |
| 22:49.12 | ewtvb | the dev give a fuck |
| 22:49.23 | ewtvb | you make project just to find a work not to help people |
| 22:49.45 | Jaxx_ | What if i try another usb + i used correct link and still get that issue? i mean.. i didnt get any issue when i tired Linux Mint kde and cinnamon... but for debian I did |
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| 22:52.33 | Jaxx_ | need a quick answer on my last question before I try again |
| 22:52.51 | ewtvb | what is your question? |
| 22:52.58 | Jaxx_ | What if i try another usb + i used correct link and still get that issue? i mean.. i didnt get any issue when i tired Linux Mint kde and cinnamon... but for debian I did |
| 22:53.02 | ewtvb | want a good advise? rush is the worst thing to do. |
| 22:53.13 | ewtvb | what is your question? |
| 22:53.21 | ewtvb | it's not clear what are you trying to do or the issue you got. |
| 22:53.22 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: |
| 22:53.32 | Jaxx_ | yes? |
| 22:53.39 | ewtvb | what is the issue? |
| 22:54.06 | Jaxx_ | ewtvb: This: https://share.riseup.net/#uqXH3nwl9nAnmDoX60Z3Pw |
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| 22:54.20 | Jaxx_ | When i try install,i get this what u see on the link |
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| 22:55.33 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: what is that file an iso? what is the name, can you give me md5sum? how did you make it bootable? answer me these questions so we can continue to help you |
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| 22:56.09 | annadane | i guess i'd maybe verify the iso using hashes, yeah |
| 22:56.19 | annadane | even then it shouldn't break like that |
| 22:56.40 | Jaxx_ | ewtvb: md5sum: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-cd/SHA512SUMS , the download link I used: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 22:57.24 | kill0rmachine | hey something strange happened, rebootet my machine a minute ago and the domain changed from user@localhost.localdomain to user@ocalhost,i also cant rember that i named it localhost on installation |
| 22:57.45 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: can you do md5sum on that file and not give me that link? |
| 22:57.46 | Jaxx_ | and how i made it bootable? i placed my usb,the name of it at the top in the BIOS (Boot option) |
| 22:58.09 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: yes but what did you use to put it in usb? |
| 22:58.23 | Jaxx_ | im new to it,so explain please |
| 22:58.30 | annadane | i wonder if you can try switching between legacy mode and... the other mode, i forget what it is, or otherwise i think there are parameters you can pass to the installer |
| 22:58.31 | Jaxx_ | oh |
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| 22:58.37 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: how did you put that file in usb? |
| 22:58.46 | annadane | yes, that's a good place to start, how did you copy it |
| 22:58.53 | Jaxx_ | i used USB image writer for linux mint cinnamon |
| 22:59.07 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: what is your current os you use right now? |
| 22:59.12 | kill0rmachine | u dont need this crap since debian isos are hybrid |
| 22:59.32 | Jaxx_ | on my laptop that i want debian on,I installed Linux mint cinnamon |
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| 22:59.49 | kill0rmachine | dd if=/bla/myiso.iso of=/dev/sdx without number on the end |
| 22:59.52 | Jaxx_ | so linux mint cinnamon is the current os |
| 22:59.58 | annadane | just cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdX where /dev/sdX is your device, and then "sync" |
| 23:00.03 | annadane | or dd |
| 23:00.18 | ewtvb | you are confusing him... |
| 23:00.20 | annadane | find your device with lsblk |
| 23:00.53 | Jaxx_ | ewtvb: Please pm me. dont want to b more confused :( |
| 23:00.56 | kill0rmachine | if u not sure pull it off do lsblk, plug it in do lsblk again |
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| 23:01.25 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: ok. plug the usb to your machine. run fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste the link here |
| 23:01.30 | jt86 | Hi all |
| 23:01.42 | kill0rmachine | hey isnt it very strange that my domain changed |
| 23:01.53 | Jaxx_ | Wait.. that means that u see my user there.. is that so good idea? |
| 23:02.06 | jt86 | I'm learning penetration testing at the moment and trying go through my modules |
| 23:02.09 | ewtvb | you can remove the user |
| 23:02.19 | Jaxx_ | how? |
| 23:02.24 | jt86 | I am trying to understand how reaver works |
| 23:02.30 | annadane | jt86, are you running debian? |
| 23:02.39 | annadane | or are you on kali/parrot |
| 23:02.41 | ewtvb | we need to see your device so you can write to tthe usb |
| 23:02.41 | jt86 | yes - Kali Linux |
| 23:02.43 | annadane | !kali |
| 23:02.43 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 23:02.51 | annadane | ...3 times in one day... |
| 23:02.53 | jt86 | I see |
| 23:02.54 | jt86 | ok |
| 23:03.00 | jt86 | no worries |
| 23:03.02 | jt86 | thanks |
| 23:03.04 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: just do it |
| 23:03.06 | jt86 | I'll join that channel |
| 23:03.10 | ewtvb | or pm me the link |
| 23:03.20 | ewtvb | or use pastebin.com |
| 23:03.21 | annadane | god damn it... |
| 23:03.22 | Jaxx_ | fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Permission denied fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Permission denied |
| 23:03.31 | ewtvb | run sudo before then |
| 23:03.36 | annadane | NO |
| 23:03.40 | ewtvb | sudo fdisk -l | nc terimbin.com 9999 |
| 23:03.47 | annadane | oh, fdisk. |
| 23:03.49 | annadane | never mind. |
| 23:04.05 | ewtvb | i quit. |
| 23:04.06 | ewtvb | bye |
| 23:04.19 | ewtvb | install windows. |
| 23:05.00 | Jaxx_ | wth.. thats not putting it on the site.. thats format disk |
| 23:05.03 | kill0rmachine | format c: |
| 23:05.25 | Jaxx_ | Can someone help me who know how to? |
| 23:05.36 | annadane | okay, first off, stop listening to this asshole |
| 23:05.42 | Jaxx_ | :( |
| 23:05.44 | kill0rmachine | lol |
| 23:05.49 | Jaxx_ | pm me please :( |
| 23:05.55 | annadane | no, let's resolve it here |
| 23:05.59 | annadane | this is a support channel |
| 23:05.59 | ewtvb | annadane: you are asshole |
| 23:06.07 | ewtvb | [02:03] <annadane> NO |
| 23:06.14 | annadane | i thought you were done? |
| 23:06.14 | Jaxx_ | annadane: ok.. then u can help |
| 23:06.45 | annadane | Jaxx_, what does lsblk say, post it to paste.debian.net, if you have a graphical interface |
| 23:06.56 | annadane | in other words, if you're not in a terminal only environment |
| 23:07.00 | kill0rmachine | should i be worried because my domainname changed? |
| 23:07.33 | ewtvb | lol how to become hacker |
| 23:07.35 | ewtvb | !kali |
| 23:07.35 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 23:07.36 | Jaxx_ | annadane: Whats the command? |
| 23:07.42 | annadane | "lsblk", by itself |
| 23:07.45 | annadane | (without quotes) |
| 23:07.55 | annadane | !ops ewtvb being a troll and not helpful |
| 23:07.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: annadane complains about a problem (see above) |
| 23:08.18 | davesp | If you're a Windows user and you're reading these channels, know this: Running "format c:" is a horrible idea if you don't have Windows installation CDs. |
| 23:08.20 | ewtvb | annadane: i helped but you troll |
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| 23:09.25 | ewtvb | !ops annadane helped a guy and said NO in middle and reporting me for being troll. |
| 23:09.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: ewtvb complains about a problem (see above) |
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| 23:09.43 | Jaxx_ | annadane: m using this since the paste site keeps loading: https://share.riseup.net/#m4axHx-CRIDdm0rrL_8QNQ |
| 23:10.28 | ewtvb | that is a weird site. |
| 23:10.48 | annadane | 15 GB looks like your USB. so you ought to be able, as root, to "cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdb" and then once that finishes, "sync" - but first of all do validate that the 15G device is your USB |
| 23:11.06 | annadane | and don't write over your actual hard disk by mistake |
| 23:11.21 | ewtvb | annadane: why not use dd with bs? |
| 23:11.31 | Jaxx_ | annadane: I cant just download the iso,burn it on the usb? |
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| 23:11.44 | annadane | well, this is what i'm saying, this will burn it onto the usb |
| 23:11.55 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: can you run md5sum on the iso file like this: md5sum file.iso(the file) |
| 23:12.15 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: run md5sum debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 23:12.36 | Jaxx_ | one person at a time. |
| 23:12.42 | ewtvb | just do it |
| 23:12.50 | Jaxx_ | annadane: Should I? |
| 23:12.58 | annadane | it's harmless, you may as well |
| 23:13.05 | Jaxx_ | ok |
| 23:13.37 | annadane | i suspect the issue isn't that the image is corrupt but that the burn technique you used is incorrect, but it's possible |
| 23:13.59 | annadane | Jaxx_, also, make sure the USB is unmounted before you cp to it |
| 23:14.00 | Jaxx_ | md5sum debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso md5sum: debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso: No such file or directory |
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| 23:14.08 | annadane | Jaxx_, specify the path name |
| 23:14.14 | annadane | wherever you saved it |
| 23:14.30 | Jaxx_ | this is confusing |
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| 23:14.51 | Jaxx_ | annadane: But does this way u tell me fix the blue colour thingy from that link i posted? |
| 23:15.09 | annadane | well, i saw an image which was borked graphics |
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| 23:15.27 | annadane | if you cp it like i've been describing, it may fix the problem |
| 23:15.29 | davesp | ...and amusing. Someone should provide complete command lines (like "dd if=this.iso of=/dev/something"). |
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| 23:16.21 | Jaxx_ | annadane: I already got the iso on my usb already |
| 23:16.32 | annadane | but the image may be corrupt |
| 23:16.34 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: why do you use the riseup website? |
| 23:16.44 | Jaxx_ | cuz thats the only one i use |
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| 23:16.54 | ewtvb | why not pastebin? |
| 23:16.59 | annadane | !pastebin.com |
| 23:16.59 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 23:17.04 | Jaxx_ | cant delete my paste there |
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| 23:17.45 | ewtvb | !annadane |
| 23:18.32 | Jaxx_ | annadane: Ok. whats the first step i need to do (one step at a time).. already got the iso on my usb |
| 23:19.01 | annadane | the iso itself is on the USB? i'd first of all transfer it over to somewhere else |
| 23:19.04 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: what is the name of the iso? |
| 23:19.18 | annadane | the home directory should be fine |
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| 23:20.08 | annadane | by the way, be aware that if you intend to write the debian image to the USB, other data on it will be destroyed, make sure there's nothing there you want to keep |
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| 23:20.24 | Jaxx_ | u know what. i just format the usb |
| 23:20.47 | Jaxx_ | Then i have nothing there but the iso once i burn it |
| 23:21.14 | Jaxx_ | what about that way? |
| 23:21.26 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: what is the name of the iso? |
| 23:22.07 | Jaxx_ | its in the download link the name of the iso: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 23:22.23 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: the filename is debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso ? |
| 23:22.42 | annadane | ah it may not be necessary to move it, i've gotten my steps confused |
| 23:22.52 | annadane | well, no, it should be moved first |
| 23:23.09 | annadane | or if not moved, copied somewhere else like the home directory |
| 23:23.12 | Jaxx_ | Cant i just format the usb and just start from downloading the iso down to "downloads" on my pc? |
| 23:23.21 | annadane | sure, you can if you want |
| 23:23.32 | ewtvb | so you want to download it again? |
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| 23:23.43 | annadane | it's not necessary if you already have the iso |
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| 23:23.51 | Jaxx_ | yes. so i can do the step by step |
| 23:24.19 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: do you know how to use terminal? |
| 23:24.49 | Jaxx_ | im still new,so i know the apt install .. but not like a pro |
| 23:24.55 | ewtvb | yeah its ok |
| 23:24.56 | Jaxx_ | but tbh,no |
| 23:24.58 | ewtvb | are you in terminal? |
| 23:25.02 | annadane | i think formatting the USB may also lead to problems if you don't really understand how formatting should be done |
| 23:25.06 | Jaxx_ | yes i am |
| 23:25.10 | ewtvb | ok |
| 23:25.14 | Jaxx_ | but let me download it first |
| 23:25.19 | ewtvb | download what? |
| 23:25.46 | Jaxx_ | the iso |
| 23:25.53 | ewtvb | you got it already |
| 23:25.54 | Jaxx_ | i just want to redo it |
| 23:25.59 | ewtvb | you dont need |
| 23:26.08 | davesp | ("shasum..."_ |
| 23:26.13 | Jaxx_ | i already formated and deleted from "downloads" |
| 23:26.18 | ewtvb | oh |
| 23:26.20 | ewtvb | then download it |
| 23:26.22 | ewtvb | what a retard |
| 23:26.32 | annadane | oh my god. |
| 23:26.32 | kill0rmachine | if you run it on a laptop i would recommend the official unofficial image that contains all nonfree firmware for wan and other stuff |
| 23:26.38 | annadane | do NOT do that to people asking for support |
| 23:26.45 | kill0rmachine | *wlan |
| 23:26.55 | ewtvb | kill0rmachine: what if you dont install with the firmware? |
| 23:27.34 | kill0rmachine | depends on your hardware if u have a nonfree wlan device, then u need downlaod them without internet |
| 23:28.00 | Jaxx_ | ok.. its downloaded to the "Downloads" |
| 23:28.20 | annadane | okay. then, i'd unmount the USB, and just for safety, see what lsblk says again |
| 23:28.21 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: you finished downloading? |
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| 23:28.32 | Jaxx_ | yes.. its in the "Downloads" |
| 23:28.38 | annadane | it should still be /dev/sdb but let's do this properly |
| 23:28.43 | kill0rmachine | wondering why the free ath9c_htc firmware was bundeled with nonfree atheros firmware |
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| 23:28.59 | ewtvb | ok go to terminal write cd Downloads and then write simply sha256sum debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 23:29.04 | annadane | maybe depends on the definition of free, may not be free according to DFSG |
| 23:29.16 | annadane | and sure, may as well check the sum of it first |
| 23:29.19 | Jaxx_ | Please 1 person only. not 2 at once |
| 23:29.28 | kill0rmachine | its free, its on github and you can compile it yourself |
| 23:29.32 | ewtvb | ok so annadane help him . |
| 23:29.38 | ewtvb | you* |
| 23:29.48 | ewtvb | or ask google |
| 23:29.52 | ewtvb | did you google? |
| 23:30.14 | Jaxx_ | annadane: So what do I do next? |
| 23:30.24 | kill0rmachine | have only baidu, stupid grand firewall |
| 23:31.54 | annadane | do as ewtvb says and check the sum, and then afterwords if things check out you ought to be able to "cd Downloads", (now as root) "cp debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb" and then "sync", but have the USB unmounted and do verify that /dev/sdb belongs to your USB device with lsblk |
| 23:32.08 | ewtvb | dont do that it will remove all your porn |
| 23:32.35 | annadane | you only have two devices listed so it ought not to be a problem with accidentally overwriting the wrong device |
| 23:32.45 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: why not on your own language search how to install debian? |
| 23:33.00 | davesp | Should "cp debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdX" instead be "dd if=debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX"? |
| 23:33.06 | annadane | ewtvb, you can disagree with my technical advice but if you're going to be an asshole, don't even bother |
| 23:33.17 | annadane | well, you can use cp or dd |
| 23:33.24 | annadane | it comes down to preference |
| 23:33.32 | Jaxx_ | i got the sha |
| 23:33.35 | davesp | Ah. |
| 23:33.44 | ewtvb | he got the sha |
| 23:33.58 | Jaxx_ | post it? |
| 23:35.07 | ewtvb | ping archpc- can you help Jaxx_ ? |
| 23:35.21 | annadane | i need to actually open the file i have saved on my computer to remember how to check sums :P |
| 23:35.31 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: post it here |
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| 23:35.38 | Jaxx_ | here: 124d270006703f2111224dec3bf7a9d01450168be41d4834f88fdd035552b044 debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 23:36.04 | ewtvb | do |
| 23:36.21 | annadane | that itself is probably fine for just checking for corruption |
| 23:37.08 | Jaxx_ | So whats next? |
| 23:37.17 | davesp | annadane: Are you sure "cp" works the same for binary images as "dd"? I've always used "dd" to copy .iso/.img files to an un-mounted device. |
| 23:37.35 | annadane | it doesn't work the *same* but both are acceptable |
| 23:37.41 | kill0rmachine | yes it in debian documentation |
| 23:37.48 | annadane | the debian docs use cp |
| 23:37.55 | annadane | for these purposes both are fine |
| 23:38.38 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: read https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 23:38.48 | annadane | (that's for jessie, not stretch) |
| 23:38.55 | Jaxx_ | annadane: So whats next? |
| 23:39.01 | kill0rmachine | dd used to somtimes icredible slow rate below 1mb |
| 23:39.09 | annadane | Jaxx_, one sec, i'm looking up how to actually do checksums properly |
| 23:39.14 | kill0rmachine | *used to be |
| 23:39.16 | Jaxx_ | ok |
| 23:39.23 | ewtvb | annadane: the checksum is the same as original |
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| 23:40.59 | annadane | okay, so unmount the USB |
| 23:40.59 | Jaxx_ | which means what? |
| 23:41.06 | annadane | which means it wasn't corrupted on download |
| 23:41.08 | Jaxx_ | ok |
| 23:41.32 | annadane | you can verify more than this for the truly paranoid but this should be fine for checking the image isn't broken |
| 23:41.33 | Jaxx_ | i havent got the iso to usb yet |
| 23:41.51 | annadane | well, you don't need to put the iso on the USB, it can just stay in Downloads |
| 23:42.18 | Jaxx_ | i want to have it on a usb so i can just use usb if i wnat to reinstall it |
| 23:42.24 | Jaxx_ | *want |
| 23:42.29 | annadane | everything on the USB is going to be written over |
| 23:42.35 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: unplug usb. easy thing to do. then run df -a show us using your website after that run df -a and show again using ur website |
| 23:43.13 | annadane | that's... not really necessary |
| 23:43.40 | Jaxx_ | see? thats y i want help from 1 person so it doesnt confuse me more than it already does |
| 23:43.43 | annadane | it should still be /dev/sdb, assuming the USB and sdb are both about 16G which is typically standard |
| 23:44.21 | Jaxx_ | after i got it to "Downloads".. what do i do now so i dont get that blue thingy again,but also want the iso on a usb |
| 23:44.44 | annadane | you can copy the iso to the USB after it's installed on to it |
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| 23:45.08 | Jaxx_ | problem is is that i will get the same issue i had again |
| 23:45.21 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: how did you install your mint? |
| 23:45.39 | annadane | i... don't _think_ it will be an issue |
| 23:45.47 | ewtvb | lol |
| 23:45.52 | Jaxx_ | downloaded iso,burned it on a usb using Rufus which is for windows.. |
| 23:46.13 | annadane | rufus is generally bad to use but that was for mint so not relevant here |
| 23:46.34 | Jaxx_ | i had to use rufus since i didnt have any other os on laptop |
| 23:46.39 | annadane | in future if you need to burn images in windows you should just use win32diskimager |
| 23:46.46 | wigums | dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX |
| 23:46.59 | kill0rmachine | no you cant or? tried do that but could not figure it out, think there is something on the topic in docs |
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| 23:47.09 | annadane | !rufus |
| 23:47.09 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 23:47.19 | kill0rmachine | write files to flashed iso on us |
| 23:47.26 | Jaxx_ | I use the "USB image writer" for linux mint cinnamon |
| 23:47.27 | ewtvb | annadane: did you write dpkg description? |
| 23:47.29 | kill0rmachine | it also uses the entire space |
| 23:47.43 | Jaxx_ | is that a good one? |
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| 23:47.51 | annadane | is what a good one? |
| 23:47.55 | ewtvb | if you google you already solve it. |
| 23:47.58 | Jaxx_ | USB image writer |
| 23:48.04 | annadane | yes but seeing as how this is a support channel |
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| 23:48.16 | ewtvb | see you wasted one hour |
| 23:48.29 | ewtvb | you could fix this in 10 minutes . |
| 23:48.56 | annadane | anyway, putting the iso on the USB afterwards - after it's burned - ought to be fine |
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| 23:49.14 | kill0rmachine | > usb image write < so happy this is over |
| 23:49.36 | ewtvb | annadane: explain to him how to burn the iso.. |
| 23:49.40 | kill0rmachine | this shit bricked always a part of boot procedure |
| 23:49.42 | ewtvb | for the million time |
| 23:49.44 | davesp | Is it? |
| 23:49.46 | Jaxx_ | i know how |
| 23:49.53 | ewtvb | yes |
| 23:49.57 | Jaxx_ | i do have USB image writer |
| 23:50.02 | kill0rmachine | hybrid iso best life |
| 23:50.05 | ewtvb | comeon man use the terminal |
| 23:50.38 | kill0rmachine | yes but the usb writer does lot usles shit that breaks the ability to boot the usb in the end |
| 23:50.59 | annadane | so unmount the USB, then "cd Downloads", and then "cp debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb" and "sync", again, make sure /dev/sdb is actually the correct location |
| 23:51.26 | ewtvb | what if it will happen to him again? lol |
| 23:51.34 | annadane | then it's a hardware problem |
| 23:51.34 | Jaxx_ | OR i can just go to downloads,rightclick,copy and paste it that way |
| 23:51.44 | kill0rmachine | :D |
| 23:51.48 | annadane | but the most likely explaination is an initial bad method of writing it |
| 23:51.50 | ewtvb | no you cant lol |
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| 23:51.58 | annadane | you can't, because it has to be unmounted |
| 23:52.09 | kill0rmachine | or make a symlink, should work |
| 23:52.24 | ewtvb | kill0rmachine: is waiting 1 day to know if domain changed is bad. rofl |
| 23:52.40 | Jaxx_ | this will take longer than i thought it would b |
| 23:52.42 | kill0rmachine | lol |
| 23:54.15 | annadane | dd can also be used but it's more destructive, potentially |
| 23:54.36 | davesp | annadane: Does a Debian Wiki page exist to explain how to burn Debian images? |
| 23:54.58 | annadane | https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/installmanual |
| 23:55.06 | ewtvb | davesp: it does. |
| 23:55.10 | annadane | https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 23:55.34 | ewtvb | Jaxx_: can you try usb image writer again? |
| 23:55.36 | ewtvb | it might work |
| 23:55.57 | Jaxx_ | no harm done.. i can format usb again if needed |
| 23:56.01 | annadane | sure, complain about the time it takes but then also tell them not to use cp AS IT SAYS IN THE DOCS and waste even more time |
| 23:56.28 | kill0rmachine | stretch pffm thw buster installed and livin 2 years in the future |
| 23:56.58 | Jaxx_ | why would i even read docs or guides when there is a chance to get it faster done with help step by step by someone |
| 23:57.00 | ewtvb | annadane: who said to not use cp? |
| 23:57.12 | davesp | Okay; have the instructions on that page prevented Jaxx_ from successfully creating a bootable Debian image? |
| 23:57.29 | Jaxx_ | but as u said,i try the usb image writer,but i know it will b same issue. |
| 23:57.38 | ewtvb | try it |
| 23:57.44 | Jaxx_ | Anyway. i b back and let u know if anything happened |
| 23:57.45 | ewtvb | if not come here and if it work tell us it worked |
| 23:57.51 | kill0rmachine | hmmm, debian docs bring it to the point always, gues you are wasti ng your time |
| 23:57.56 | Jaxx_ | ok |
| 23:58.09 | annadane | section 4.3.1, "cp blah blah blah", but no, let's continue bashing our heads against the wall... |
| 23:58.11 | ewtvb | thats how you help |
| 23:58.21 | davesp | :-) |
| 23:58.27 | kill0rmachine | :) |
| 23:59.00 | davesp | So, no updates to the Wiki seem to be needed. |
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| 23:59.14 | annadane | that isn't the wiki, though |
| 23:59.25 | kill0rmachine | oh by the way tor-arm package is missing the tor-arm package :D there are only docs in it |
| 23:59.31 | kill0rmachine | on buster |
| 23:59.31 | ewtvb | irc is best to get quick answers |
| 23:59.42 | annadane | it's possible; some packages do get removed from testing |