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| 03:17.46 | [DragOn] | don't expect anything free drivers with machines done after 2008~ |
| 03:18.28 | [DragOn] | + they are vulnerables :D |
| 03:18.46 | [DragOn] | and MEI and stuff improved ofc... |
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| 03:24.39 | [DragOn] | The toppest computer, would a shiny computer very neat. A big manual that describes everything inside and what it does. A pre set partition with all the source code documented that permit to reproduce the entire system. |
| 03:24.47 | [DragOn] | would be* |
| 03:24.58 | somiaj | [DragOn]: although maybe intersting to some, this is drifting quite a ways from debian support. |
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| 03:26.59 | [DragOn] | somiaj: mmwell it's in thematic... we are computer enthusiasts and we likes coding after all |
| 03:29.01 | somiaj | sure, which makes it easy to drift off topic, and hence a friendly reminder can help to get us back to debian support. |
| 03:29.59 | [DragOn] | I'm very talkative I agree... |
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| 06:37.44 | apls714 | hello, could some one advise me how to get Stretch desktop with Gnome to use full resolution of LG wide screen monitor? Same monitor works fine out of the box with Jessie... |
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| 07:31.59 | limbo_ | Is it possible to use my GPU (1070) for containers/VMs and still have it available to the host? |
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| 08:40.03 | xmbswc | does update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/awk awk /usr/local/bin/gawk 15 # look right |
| 08:40.39 | xmbswc | or is it name=localgawk |
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| 08:42.26 | xmbswc | worked, thanks |
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| 09:03.43 | BenNZ | hi having trouble with the xfce4-power-manager-okugin , its using the highcontrast theme , but id like to use anything else , how do i manually change it or better yet use the icon theme im using |
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| 09:19.36 | limbo_ | BenNZ: any complaints on stdout/stderr? |
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| 09:20.49 | BenNZ | oops i had posted in the wrong room , butt no there isnt any errors seems to use that as defaullt with no way of changing it |
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| 09:24.55 | BenNZ | i think ive found a workaround |
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| 10:24.08 | toogley | localectl list-keymaps says "couldn't find any console keymaps" --> how can i install those? i haven't found anything useful in neither manuals nor other kind of documentation |
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| 10:24.28 | toogley | note: my system is armbian, but i guess the answer is the same |
| 10:27.16 | toogley | aah, interesting. i could just install the console-data package |
| 10:27.44 | michael2 | hi all. I just installed fresh debian and I noticed I can override grub config to boot into a root shell with the main partition mounted readonly - is it recommended to prevent this by password protecting grub? |
| 10:28.30 | sleepyhead | michael2: use full disk encryption if you want protection from people with physical access to the machine. this only lets you delay a compromise not prevent it outright |
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| 10:30.26 | michael2 | sleepyhead: you mean the grub password only delays? is full disc encryption hard to setup ? |
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| 10:31.39 | sleepyhead | michael2: i mean FDE is what you want not grub password. grub password does nothing for you. |
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| 10:32.13 | michael2 | sleepyhead: roger that |
| 10:32.46 | sleepyhead | michael2: anyone with physical access can just boot off a live cd and bypass your grub password entirely. that's why you use full disk encryption so that even if they bypass grub they still can't read the data on the drive without the encryption password |
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| 10:35.56 | michael2 | sleepyhead: I have so far just been using a separate partition running LUKS - so the main system files are not encrypted but my personal data is - is there any reason for me to have to upgrade to FDE? /etc/shadow is bcrypt hashed and my password is pretty secure |
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| 10:36.50 | sleepyhead | michael2: someone could place a script that runs at bootup on your root partition and compromise your system that way |
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| 10:37.31 | michael2 | sleepyhead: like a modified sudo wrapper? |
| 10:38.00 | sleepyhead | michael2: yes or just a script in /etc/rc.local that monitors key strokes. also /tmp stores temporary files that could leak sensitive data |
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| 10:42.50 | michael2 | sleepyhead: that would require them to have physical access though right? in that scenario I would at least have knowledge some one had the ability to tamper with the computer - unlike a software keylogger which i unwittingly installed |
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| 10:43.26 | sleepyhead | michael2: what is the attack vector you are worried about? |
| 10:43.36 | sleepyhead | michael2: you said grub so i assumed physical access |
| 10:44.08 | michael2 | well the most likely is just someone steals my laptop |
| 10:45.13 | sleepyhead | michael2: like i said it's best to encrypt / too. now this bit "unlike a software keylogger" lead me to think you think FDE protects you from internet malware. it doesn't do that |
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| 10:46.03 | sleepyhead | michael2: when your comp is running the disks are decrypted so any internet malware that manages to sneak past your browser's defenses has as much file system access as any other program running on your system. |
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| 10:51.56 | fmorelsz | hi, I've identicals gpg-agent.conf and gpg.conf for a normal user aswell as root on my server. Problem is, whenever I logout the server, root cannot remember the passphrase of the key even if I let a very long timeout (1year), while normal user remembers it. why is root not reading my gpg-agent.conf? |
| 10:53.21 | michael2 | sleepyhead: I understand. I just mentioned the keylogger software simply as an example of an undetectable threat - installing a /etc/rc.local keylogger via a live USB would require someone to have physical access to the laptop. in that case I would at least know the laptop was in their physical possession - but yeah there is a kind of endless things they can tamper with SSL certificates wifi passwords, so |
| 10:53.22 | michael2 | FDE is really only long term solution... |
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| 10:57.01 | michael2 | fmorelsz: the decrypted priv key is not stored in gpg-agent.conf - its stored in a daemon - usually GPG_AGENT env var points to that daemons location |
| 10:57.26 | michael2 | how are you achieving root - via sudo? |
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| 11:00.15 | fmorelsz | michael2: I'm logging as root |
| 11:00.34 | dracc | I'm trying to build a project for Windows which uses threads. My friend who uses Arch can make it compile with mingw, but I can't. Any ideas what my next step might be in order to compile using mingw with threads support? |
| 11:01.19 | BCMM | dracc: it would probably be helpful to list the exact steps your friend took, and what precisely goes wrong when you do the same thing |
| 11:01.31 | michael2 | fmorelsz: if you run `printenv | grep -i gpg' as regular user what do you get? is it same when you are root? |
| 11:01.40 | fmorelsz | michael2: let me check |
| 11:02.33 | Mysterytrain | ok, I'm about at my wits end here. I've been having a problem getting any linux distro to boot. d-i is running in UEFI mode, I created a fat32 efi partition, grub-install is working correctly (at least now), but every single time I reboot, a grub rescue prompt comes up. what else can I try. I'm absolutely out of ideas. |
| 11:03.05 | dracc | BCMM: `cmake ..` , make -j4, done. |
| 11:03.20 | fmorelsz | michael2: normal user returns "GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" while under root I get nothing |
| 11:03.26 | dracc | BCMM: CMake specifies -std=gnu++14, which should allow threading. |
| 11:03.29 | GNU\colossus | Mysterytrain, how many hard disks/potential boot devices does your box have? |
| 11:03.55 | Mysterytrain | one gpt disk and one mbr disk, the latter of which has no bootable flag set |
| 11:04.08 | michael2 | fmorelsz: and you regular user currenlty can use the priv key? |
| 11:04.22 | fmorelsz | michael2: yes |
| 11:04.45 | dracc | BCMM: I get errors that std::thread::sleep_for() is not defined, same thing with std::this_thread |
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| 11:05.12 | michael2 | fmorelsz: if you set the var undert th root account - can root access key then? |
| 11:05.20 | GNU\colossus | Mysterytrain, hmm - you should probably try to remove the second disk and see if the problem persist or changes. I remember debugging a similar boot problem for more than an hour, and it turns out the the firmware loaded a derelict grub installation on a disk I didn't know to have grub installed |
| 11:05.46 | GNU\colossus | (I know this is supposed not to happen with EFI, but the average BIOS/MBR CSM is totally unpredicable in my experience) |
| 11:05.51 | fmorelsz | michael2: normal user can use it and the passphrase is saved for a long time (don't need to type each time), while under root with same keys and config files, I can decrypt but it doesnt save the passphrase |
| 11:05.55 | Mysterytrain | GNU\colossus: ok, I will give that a try. at this point, i'm about to try anything |
| 11:06.28 | Mysterytrain | very frustrating experience, here |
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| 11:07.40 | GNU\colossus | good luck :) |
| 11:08.13 | michael2 | fmorelsz: and did you run: GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0 ? |
| 11:08.48 | BCMM | dracc: gcc versions for you and your friend probably interesting |
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| 11:09.03 | BCMM | (sorry about that grammar) |
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| 11:09.23 | physkets | Hi! |
| 11:09.45 | physkets | Can I install on a machine that only has a Serial output? |
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| 11:10.21 | fmorelsz | michael2: let me check |
| 11:10.34 | dracc | BCMM: I use "i686-w64-mingw32-gcc (GCC) 7.3-win32 20180506", he uses something a little bit older. |
| 11:10.37 | BCMM | physkets: probably. depending on what sort of machine this is you may have to use a slightly weird method. more details? |
| 11:11.06 | physkets | BCMM: http://pcengines.ch/apu2.htm |
| 11:11.24 | physkets | I'm able to connect to the machine over serialconsole |
| 11:11.34 | BCMM | dracc: can you pastebin the whole output of your attempt to build? |
| 11:11.55 | physkets | now do I just plugin a USB with the ISO image dd'ed to it? |
| 11:13.25 | BCMM | physkets: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s03.html.en looks like you'll be fine |
| 11:13.59 | BCMM | physkets: i was about to suggest typing in kernel boot params blind, but turns out that if you don't have a graphics card the installer should bring up the serial console automatically |
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| 11:14.59 | physkets | So will I have to change the device and baud? |
| 11:15.14 | physkets | I'm currently using ttyUSB0 and 115200,8n1 |
| 11:15.22 | physkets | http://pcengines.ch/howto.htm#serialconsole |
| 11:16.13 | fmorelsz | michael2: it doesn't work, now when I try to use the key under root it doesn't give me the pinentry box either |
| 11:16.14 | BCMM | physkets: i don't know what the logic is for bringing it up automatically. are there multiple serial ports on this thing? |
| 11:16.39 | physkets | nope; just one |
| 11:16.59 | physkets | I'm connecting to it from my laptop using a USB-to-serial connector |
| 11:17.28 | BCMM | well then i guess you shouldn't need to set the device. not sure what the default baud rate will be. |
| 11:17.53 | physkets | okay... |
| 11:18.07 | michael2 | fmorelsz: does your system running X? |
| 11:18.08 | physkets | One other thing... do I use stable, testing or unstable? |
| 11:18.20 | BCMM | physkets: at any rate i'd try and see if it just works automatically before fiddling with boot params! |
| 11:18.32 | fmorelsz | michael2: server is headless |
| 11:18.37 | BCMM | physkets: up to you, really. some would say "if you have to ask, use stable" |
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| 11:18.50 | BCMM | physkets: do you mind if some of the software is a few years old? |
| 11:18.52 | physkets | hmmm.... but some of the packages on it are so old |
| 11:19.02 | BCMM | well, does it matter for your use-case? |
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| 11:19.23 | physkets | well, take things like the Matrix server: Synapse... |
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| 11:19.34 | physkets | that is relatively new, and only exists on Sidney |
| 11:19.40 | physkets | (I think) |
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| 11:20.07 | physkets | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/matrix-synapse |
| 11:20.24 | BCMM | physkets: it's in buster (testing) and sid (unstable) |
| 11:20.40 | BCMM | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=matrix-synapse |
| 11:20.48 | physkets | I'm going to make this a personal server for comms, and maybe CalDAV |
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| 11:21.03 | michael2 | fmorelsz: something may have started gpg agent - and given your user account the env vars - to reach it but not root |
| 11:21.33 | michael2 | fmorelsz: so how are you switching between the root and user accounts? |
| 11:21.35 | physkets | BCMM: ya, so it gets pretty frequent updates, and I think I should use Sid for it, no? |
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| 11:21.42 | padomay | What is matrix synapse? |
| 11:22.37 | BCMM | physkets: it really does come down to your own preferences, on risk of breakage vs. need for things to be new |
| 11:22.50 | physkets | padomay: Matrix is a communication protocol |
| 11:23.13 | BCMM | physkets: if you're reasonably competant at administering debian-style systems, i'd say Sid is not as difficult as people make out |
| 11:23.18 | physkets | BCMM: this is not critical in any way; I'm playing around so I think I'll use Sid... |
| 11:23.20 | fmorelsz | michael2: I think you're right, I just noticed normal user as this in its zshrc "GPG_TTY=$(tty); export GPG_TTY" while root doesnt |
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| 11:23.52 | physkets | Nope; I have used deb-based distros in a very long time |
| 11:23.59 | physkets | * have not |
| 11:23.59 | BCMM | physkets: the main thing is, you really *do* need to check the list of packages when updating, as full-upgrade will occasionally want to remove a lot of stuff |
| 11:24.12 | physkets | okay, what do you mean? |
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| 11:24.21 | physkets | why would it remove? |
| 11:24.26 | BCMM | physkets: oh and you need to ask #debian-next on oftc as this channel is supposed to be stable-only |
| 11:24.44 | padomay | physkets like tcp-udp? |
| 11:24.55 | physkets | ah; cool, I will ask them if I face issues with it |
| 11:25.01 | physkets | padomay: nope; like XMPP |
| 11:25.40 | michael2 | fmorelsz: how are you switching between the accounts? are you just logging in under different ssh sessions? |
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| 11:26.24 | padomay | physkets oh ok.. |
| 11:26.27 | fmorelsz | michael2: I'm always doing ssh to my normal account (root is disabled), and then doing "sudo su" |
| 11:26.37 | BCMM | padomay: it's the latest attempt to do a good, federated real-time comms protocol. like xmmp or sip. |
| 11:26.44 | physkets | BCMM: ummm one small issue... where do I get Sid? I can only see downloads for stable |
| 11:27.01 | BCMM | physkets: you generally install stable and then upgrade it |
| 11:27.17 | michael2 | fmorelsz: that was the first thing I asked you earlier. so then try: sudo -E su - does that fix it? |
| 11:27.18 | physkets | ohhh!!! okay, cool! |
| 11:27.21 | BCMM | i think some of the weirder install methods can get you straight to sid, but that's the supported way |
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| 11:27.30 | fmorelsz | michael2: let me check |
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| 11:27.34 | BCMM | well, i mean not *supported* supported because it is still sid but you get the idea |
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| 11:29.00 | fmorelsz | michael2: nope, it still asks me for the passphrase |
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| 11:30.04 | michael2 | fmorelsz: so is gpg-agent remembering password for regular user still? |
| 11:30.11 | fmorelsz | michael2: yes. |
| 11:30.14 | michael2 | ok |
| 11:30.34 | michael2 | what is output of `printenv | grep -i gpg' ? |
| 11:30.42 | fmorelsz | for normal or root? |
| 11:30.46 | michael2 | normal |
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| 11:31.15 | fmorelsz | I get "GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" |
| 11:31.37 | michael2 | fmorelsz: now if you enter root using `sudo -E su' - then rerun the command what is output? |
| 11:32.17 | fmorelsz | I get "GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" too |
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| 11:33.16 | michael2 | fmorelsz: can you please now try runnning: export GPG_TTY ? |
| 11:33.27 | fmorelsz | under root right? |
| 11:33.33 | michael2 | yes, under root |
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| 11:33.44 | michael2 | then try using gpg again - under root |
| 11:34.34 | fmorelsz | you want me to do "export GPG_TTY=/dev/pts/0" ? |
| 11:34.54 | michael2 | sure its the same thing |
| 11:35.39 | fmorelsz | it still asking for the passphrase :( |
| 11:36.06 | michael2 | weird... |
| 11:36.18 | fmorelsz | if I go back to normal user after exit command I can decrypt and it doesnt ask me |
| 11:36.31 | AliceKelly | does command | grep search crieria work with prety much all debian commands ? |
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| 11:37.55 | sleepyhead | AliceKelly: only the ones that output to standard output |
| 11:38.32 | michael2 | fmorelsz: what does `printenv | grep -i ssh' give you for both user and root ? |
| 11:38.44 | AliceKelly | sleepyhead, so like glxinfo | grep error ? |
| 11:38.57 | michael2 | I wounder if ssh_agent has stored the keys? |
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| 11:39.33 | sleepyhead | AliceKelly: idk what glxinfo outputs. does it output to standard output? if yes then grep will work in that manner |
| 11:39.56 | fmorelsz | I get ssh_client and ssh_connection with ips but what's important is I get SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0 for normal user |
| 11:39.58 | sleepyhead | AliceKelly: otherwise if it outputs to standard error you will have to redirect that to standard output first and then grep it |
| 11:40.07 | AliceKelly | how does one tell sd out vs whatever else there is |
| 11:40.18 | sleepyhead | AliceKelly: try the command and see for yourself |
| 11:40.24 | sleepyhead | AliceKelly: most times it is stdout |
| 11:40.24 | AliceKelly | sorry im learning |
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| 11:40.38 | michael2 | fmorelsz: ok, well then Im out of ideas. sorry :( |
| 11:40.45 | fmorelsz | michael2: for root I dont get anything, until I do -E |
| 11:41.04 | fmorelsz | lol no problem |
| 11:41.14 | AliceKelly | im pretty impressed by pipeing the output to grep if you hadnt noticed |
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| 11:43.25 | sleepyhead | AliceKelly: "try the command and see for yourself" wasn't sarcasm or criticism. it is literally how we learn. |
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| 11:44.52 | AliceKelly | workin on it |
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| 11:49.12 | dracc | BCMM, https://hastebin.com/wimowiduce.vbs |
| 11:49.18 | AliceKelly | i been rtfm on webgl ati drivers opengl tried 5 or 6 different browsers and begged for help in here for days trying to get webgl to work. im at wits end |
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| 11:50.30 | Kevlar_Noir | HELLO |
| 11:50.45 | Kevlar_Noir | I'm having way too much interrupts on xhci_hcd |
| 11:50.49 | Kevlar_Noir | I can't explain why |
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| 11:51.18 | Kevlar_Noir | I even can't explain why my mackie soundcard has the double per seconds |
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| 11:51.54 | Kevlar_Noir | Can it be an issue with my skylake motherboard ? |
| 11:52.12 | AliceKelly | using pulse ? |
| 11:52.25 | Kevlar_Noir | no |
| 11:52.27 | Kevlar_Noir | JACK |
| 11:52.37 | Kevlar_Noir | I mean alsa |
| 11:52.52 | Kevlar_Noir | I "systemctl --mask" pulse service |
| 11:53.14 | AliceKelly | i have an alsa sound also.. i had to remove all the pulse audio stuff for it to work right |
| 11:53.26 | Kevlar_Noir | IRQ interrupts |
| 11:53.35 | Kevlar_Noir | on usb ports |
| 11:53.53 | Kevlar_Noir | on skylake it seems that, there's only the xhci_hcd module that is used |
| 11:54.33 | AliceKelly | but if the software is installed at all it screws with alsa |
| 11:54.45 | Kevlar_Noir | ? |
| 11:55.16 | Kevlar_Noir | I think I need to write to gigabyte |
| 11:55.34 | Kevlar_Noir | or intel |
| 11:55.42 | AliceKelly | systemctl just stops it from starting. |
| 11:55.53 | Kevlar_Noir | yes.. |
| 11:55.54 | AliceKelly | doesnt uninstall it |
| 11:56.06 | Kevlar_Noir | it's usefull if I want to reactivate it |
| 11:56.10 | Mysterytrain | GNU\colossus: well that wasn't the answer, but thanks for suggesting it |
| 11:56.26 | Kevlar_Noir | it's a "protip" |
| 11:56.35 | Kevlar_Noir | it's off topic |
| 11:56.42 | AliceKelly | if you say so. |
| 11:56.59 | AliceKelly | you mentioned your mackey soundcard |
| 11:57.03 | Kevlar_Noir | sorry, yes I4m using a RT kernel and I need to solve many issues |
| 11:57.40 | Kevlar_Noir | yes I have an usb interface with the same resolution "irqtop" show me 4000 on one core |
| 11:57.48 | Kevlar_Noir | for the mackie it's the twice |
| 11:58.12 | Kevlar_Noir | and if I "cat /proc/interrupts" |
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| 11:58.35 | Kevlar_Noir | I can see that everything is ok except the xhci_hcd irq |
| 11:59.00 | Kevlar_Noir | I don't know If there's some people that could help me |
| 11:59.16 | Kevlar_Noir | I removed irqbalance |
| 11:59.23 | Kevlar_Noir | I installed rtirq |
| 11:59.32 | Kevlar_Noir | I raised the priority on the usb |
| 11:59.48 | Kevlar_Noir | but that solve nothing |
| 12:00.01 | Kevlar_Noir | I can't explain why there's so much interrupts |
| 12:00.10 | Kevlar_Noir | bios settings ? |
| 12:00.26 | AliceKelly | lsusb -t |
| 12:00.55 | Kevlar_Noir | §YES |
| 12:01.14 | Kevlar_Noir | what I see |
| 12:01.20 | Kevlar_Noir | the abnormal thing |
| 12:01.44 | Kevlar_Noir | is that even with devices plugged on an usb 3.0 port there's ony the 2.0 hub that is used |
| 12:02.14 | Kevlar_Noir | it's maybe logical |
| 12:02.18 | AliceKelly | usb driver not loading |
| 12:02.25 | AliceKelly | usb 3 |
| 12:02.25 | Kevlar_Noir | because I have no 3.0 cable |
| 12:02.48 | Kevlar_Noir | firmware issue ? |
| 12:03.02 | physkets | BCMM: I doesn't seem to be working very well |
| 12:03.14 | AliceKelly | sounds like hardware isnt backwards compatible |
| 12:03.32 | Kevlar_Noir | it's not an exotic brand |
| 12:03.57 | physkets | BCMM: I detects the USB as: ISOLINUX 6.03 20171018 EHDD |
| 12:04.08 | physkets | does that sound right? |
| 12:04.18 | Kevlar_Noir | I hardly need help |
| 12:04.33 | Kevlar_Noir | My last solution will be to buiy a firewire interface |
| 12:04.54 | AliceKelly | or a usb 3 cable |
| 12:04.56 | physkets | BCMM: I used the DVD image for debian |
| 12:05.01 | Kevlar_Noir | with a texas instrument chip |
| 12:05.49 | Kevlar_Noir | no no.. usb cable is not the logic |
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| 12:06.09 | Kevlar_Noir | I need to analyse, and know what is causing this issue |
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| 12:06.49 | Kevlar_Noir | and ( sorry for my english, I'm froggy ) |
| 12:06.51 | pragomer | sorry, I need help: I cannot find a debian-testing iso non free |
| 12:07.02 | pragomer | could you help me finding a download link? |
| 12:07.02 | physkets | I'm having trouble with installing on a machine via serial console |
| 12:07.23 | physkets | during boot, it detects the USB, |
| 12:07.39 | BCMM | physkets: how did you write the image to USB? |
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| 12:08.05 | physkets | I used 'dd' |
| 12:08.14 | AliceKelly | physkets, you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change first one to contrib non-free |
| 12:08.18 | Kevlar_Noir | maybe I have a device which is eating all |
| 12:08.46 | physkets | AliceKelly: in the ISO? and why? |
| 12:08.49 | BCMM | physkets: well, that's the right approach. debian provides "hybrid" ISO images that should work directly from usb |
| 12:08.53 | BCMM | physkets: so, where does stuff go wrong? |
| 12:09.10 | physkets | well, after I choose the USB boot entry, |
| 12:09.22 | physkets | It says: |
| 12:09.25 | BCMM | physkets: i have no idea what AliceKelly's is talking about, can only assume she's confused you with somebody else |
| 12:09.25 | physkets | Undefined video mode number: 314 |
| 12:09.37 | physkets | :) |
| 12:09.45 | ksqsf | pragomer: check debian-cdimage |
| 12:09.50 | ksqsf | pragomer: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 12:10.05 | physkets | BCMM: then it says: |
| 12:10.05 | AliceKelly | BCMM, tes i did sorry that was for physkets |
| 12:10.09 | BCMM | physkets: how do you choose the boot entry? does the firmware provide a serial interface for choosing boot media or something? |
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| 12:10.14 | physkets | Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec |
| 12:10.28 | Pratik | Hello |
| 12:10.33 | BCMM | physkets: right, so that's linux trying to set up your video card, which is clearly a mistake |
| 12:10.45 | physkets | BCMM: yep, while booting, if I press F10, it shows me a boot menu |
| 12:10.58 | pragomer | thanks. and do I choose daily-builds for having testing? |
| 12:11.05 | BCMM | physkets: on what? |
| 12:11.13 | pragomer | because "current" seems to be 9.4.0 which is stable, right? |
| 12:11.30 | BCMM | physkets: i must say, i'm a bit confused about how you're seeing that "press <ENTER> to see video modes" message. |
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| 12:11.35 | physkets | BCMM: I connected my keyboard to the machine on which I'm installing it |
| 12:11.40 | BCMM | physkets: are you getting that over serial or what? |
| 12:11.49 | physkets | yes, I see that over serial |
| 12:12.04 | BCMM | physkets: so what happens if you just press space to continue then? |
| 12:12.34 | physkets | if I press space, it just gets stuck, and does nothing more |
| 12:12.45 | physkets | If I press <ENTER>, it says: |
| 12:12.56 | physkets | Mode: Resolution: Type: |
| 12:13.04 | physkets | 0 F00 80x25 CGA/MDA/HGC |
| 12:13.06 | AliceKelly | Kevlar_Noir, https://askubuntu.com/questions/729558/how-do-i-get-usb-3-0-driver-working-or-check-that-it-is-already-working/729565 |
| 12:13.15 | physkets | Enter a video mode or "scan" to scan for additional modes: |
| 12:13.51 | physkets | BCMM: What do you guess is happening? |
| 12:14.29 | Kevlar_Noir | AliceKelly, I will check it |
| 12:14.56 | Kevlar_Noir | THANK YOU |
| 12:15.12 | AliceKelly | Kevlar_Noir, they turned off legacy usb and forced usb3 |
| 12:15.17 | AliceKelly | in bios |
| 12:15.42 | Kevlar_Noir | ok I already check this topic in the past |
| 12:16.02 | Kevlar_Noir | everything seems normal |
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| 12:16.39 | AliceKelly | i would turn on legacy usb aand disable usb3 |
| 12:16.48 | Kevlar_Noir | maybe |
| 12:16.54 | Kevlar_Noir | I can try a kernel parameter |
| 12:16.58 | AliceKelly | temporarily |
| 12:18.00 | Kevlar_Noir | yes that's a good idea |
| 12:18.20 | AliceKelly | its worth a try o switch it of reboot then go back and turn it on |
| 12:18.31 | AliceKelly | off |
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| 12:18.51 | pragomer | sorry, I still cannot find the right iso file |
| 12:18.52 | AliceKelly | just an easy test |
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| 12:19.56 | pragomer | which one is testing ? https://snag.gy/Tkf9n3.jpg |
| 12:20.06 | AliceKelly | pragomer, i dont think youll find a non-free iso on debian |
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| 12:23.33 | Guest57985 | ah |
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| 12:25.09 | Avengeld7fold | User kali linux |
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| 12:26.30 | Avengeld7fold | User kali linux |
| 12:28.15 | AliceKelly | guten morgen |
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| 12:28.59 | shtrb | !de |
| 12:28.59 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 12:29.09 | AliceKelly | ok |
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| 12:29.37 | shtrb | but you can get service here if you wish to talk in english |
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| 12:30.03 | AliceKelly | im american, just saw someone speak herman so said hi |
| 12:30.11 | AliceKelly | german* |
| 12:30.49 | AliceKelly | !bollocks |
| 12:30.56 | AliceKelly | lol |
| 12:31.02 | Avengeld7fold | asia |
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| 12:36.51 | kill0rmachine | grüà gott |
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| 12:38.19 | Avengeld7fold | lol |
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| 12:38.32 | Avengeld7fold | kali linux |
| 12:38.55 | shtrb | !tzh |
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| 12:39.50 | physkets | BCMM: any ideas? |
| 12:40.48 | brutser | hi, when using live-build , i am trying to set desktop prefs with gsettings, but i got no clue where to put the commands, i tried in config/hooks and using dbus-launch, but no success.. anyone? |
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| 12:46.34 | AliceKelly | physkets, your trying to find non free drivers right ? |
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| 12:48.19 | velix | Does DPKG keep track, which package I'm installing at which date? |
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| 12:49.18 | p21k | velix, no it only tracks the versions |
| 12:49.25 | velix | p21k: okay :((( |
| 12:49.39 | velix | p21k: this might help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/73180/how-to-see-packages-installed-on-a-given-date-using-aptitude |
| 12:51.17 | physkets | AliceKelly: nope, I am not |
| 12:51.47 | p21k | velix, well u can check the log files for dates i guess never needed it tbh |
| 12:52.21 | physkets | AliceKelly: I'm trying to install deb to a machine that only has a serial output |
| 12:52.24 | AliceKelly | sorry thought you were the one in console looking for a non free iso |
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| 12:52.34 | velix | I'm pretty sad that isn't a basic functionality ... I mean, tracking installations should be an important function to a package based distribution. |
| 12:53.02 | physkets | :) |
| 12:53.06 | AliceKelly | physkets, interesting |
| 12:53.20 | physkets | but I'm not able to it is just getting stuck |
| 12:53.27 | physkets | after it says: |
| 12:53.38 | physkets | ISOLINUX 6.03 20171018 EHDDKBD |
| 12:53.47 | AliceKelly | and its not loading a video driver for serial |
| 12:53.57 | physkets | I don't know |
| 12:54.12 | physkets | Undefined video mode number: 314 |
| 12:54.20 | physkets | Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec |
| 12:54.33 | kill0rmachine | i wait |
| 12:54.44 | physkets | If I press space or wait 30 sec, it then gets stuck, with no more output |
| 12:54.49 | AliceKelly | what do you get when you press enter for modes |
| 12:54.51 | p21k | velix, dpkg tracks installed software and it versions and it is easy to check dpkg -l but the timestamps are in the log files |
| 12:55.27 | physkets | AliceKelly: the following: |
| 12:55.29 | physkets | Mode: Resolution: Type: |
| 12:55.36 | physkets | 0 F00 80x25 CGA/MDA/HGC |
| 12:55.44 | physkets | Enter a video mode or "scan" to scan for additional modes: |
| 12:55.54 | physkets | that's it... |
| 12:56.07 | velix | Yeah, ubuntu has a nice tool which helps me. |
| 12:56.16 | physkets | If I type scan, it gives me the same thing again |
| 12:56.21 | velix | p21k: it parses dpkg's logs, even when gzipped. |
| 12:56.28 | physkets | If I type 0, it gets stuck again |
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| 12:57.20 | AliceKelly | so let me get this strait. you have a system with no video card and gettting output to a serial port |
| 12:57.28 | physkets | yes, |
| 12:57.35 | AliceKelly | but it sticcks |
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| 12:58.06 | physkets | yep, after a point. |
| 12:58.22 | AliceKelly | i bet your kernel isnt compiled for serial video |
| 12:58.55 | brutser | i am overlooking something, dont think i can execute gsettings from a live-build config? |
| 12:58.56 | AliceKelly | im guessing so kick me in the head when your frustrated with me |
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| 12:59.07 | physkets | which kernel? |
| 12:59.16 | physkets | of my laptop? |
| 12:59.21 | physkets | or the ISO? |
| 12:59.26 | AliceKelly | the one your trying to boot to |
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| 13:00.50 | physkets | so you mean of the debian iso? |
| 13:00.51 | AliceKelly | i havent built a kernel in a long time but this kernel in sable seems to be sooper bad ass at detecting hardware |
| 13:01.10 | physkets | well, but there is this link that BCMM pointe me to: |
| 13:01.17 | physkets | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s03.html.en |
| 13:02.03 | AliceKelly | im thinking find another machine / build one for your machine and stick it in a custome install iso |
| 13:02.29 | Avengeld7fold | nub |
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| 13:03.15 | BCMM | physkets: sorry, i was afk. i think you probably need to pass kernel boot parameters to disable graphical output and explicitly enable the serial console, but i'm not sure exactly what those params are |
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| 13:03.40 | BCMM | i'm afk again now |
| 13:04.10 | AliceKelly | or do it the easy way lol |
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| 13:05.21 | BCMM | physkets: i don't know why i'm just thinking of this now, but do you have a network interface? headless setup with SSH is rather more common and it will be easier to find support for that |
| 13:05.52 | physkets | BCMM: the device does have an ethernetport |
| 13:05.53 | BCMM | you can configure a serial console getty after installation |
| 13:05.59 | physkets | it has 3, actually |
| 13:06.19 | physkets | so do I enable Pxe boot or somethinglike that? |
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| 13:07.05 | AliceKelly | physkets, this tells you exactly how to do it |
| 13:07.08 | AliceKelly | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/ch05s03.html.en |
| 13:07.37 | kill0rmachine | not 100% sure but the bootoption should be "text" |
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| 13:07.57 | BCMM | physkets: pxe boot would be for loading your boot image from the network instead of from usb. sounds like boot is already working fine |
| 13:08.27 | BCMM | it's just a matter of telling the OS to configure the network and start ssh |
| 13:08.33 | physkets | okay, how do I do the SSH thing, then? |
| 13:08.44 | physkets | but it doesn't even boot (I think) |
| 13:09.15 | BCMM | physkets: there's some somewhat old advice here on editing the iso to automatically enable ssh http://www.sgvulcan.com/2010/01/06/installing-debian-using-only-ssh/ |
| 13:09.33 | BCMM | hmm it seems a bit cd-focused |
| 13:09.37 | BCMM | i think i'm out of my depth tbh |
| 13:09.44 | AliceKelly | console=ttyS0,9600n8 TERM=ansi |
| 13:09.57 | brutser | anyone? if i have auto login with a live-build, how can i change desktop settings? like hide trash icon, change wallpaper? I thought about using gsettings, but don't know where and when. |
| 13:10.25 | BCMM | physkets: oh and of course, if the hardware permits it, the *really* easy option is to just take out the hard drive, install debian using a normal computer, and then put it back... |
| 13:10.43 | AliceKelly | ya what he said |
| 13:10.56 | kill0rmachine | there are diffrent desktops ... xfce, gnome, kde |
| 13:11.04 | kill0rmachine | and more |
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| 13:13.16 | physkets | oh... hmmm.... the harddrive is a SATA SSD |
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| 13:13.31 | physkets | a small one with an M.2 like interface |
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| 13:16.09 | kneekoo | hello, how is it possible to apt install vlc but dpkg reports this? dpkg -l vlc >> dpkg-query: no packages found matching vlc |
| 13:17.05 | kneekoo | I'm working on a script and I want to have a reliable way to determine if a package is available for installation |
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| 13:17.45 | kneekoo | obviously, this works to determine if a package is installed: dpkg -s vlc |
| 13:18.14 | kneekoo | but "dpkg -l" doesn't work on some packages for some reason |
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| 13:19.03 | physkets | AliceKelly BCMM I think I will try to do that; |
| 13:19.15 | kill0rmachine | "dpkg -l" lists installed packages |
| 13:19.31 | kill0rmachine | try "apt-get install vlc" |
| 13:19.41 | AliceKelly | got to be easier |
| 13:19.58 | kneekoo | kill0rmachine: I want to know if a package exists in the repository |
| 13:20.07 | kneekoo | that's what I need for a script |
| 13:20.24 | kill0rmachine | apt-cache search vlc | grep ^vlc |
| 13:20.46 | AliceKelly | cant you apt-get search name ? |
| 13:20.54 | kill0rmachine | duno :3 |
| 13:21.11 | AliceKelly | apt-cache i mean |
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| 13:22.59 | kneekoo | well, apt search is tricky |
| 13:23.51 | kneekoo | for instance, apt search always returns the error code 0, even when it doesn't find a match |
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| 13:24.13 | kill0rmachine | 0 is not an error or? |
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| 13:24.24 | kneekoo | 0 = success |
| 13:24.45 | kneekoo | anything else = another exit status |
| 13:25.03 | kneekoo | anyway, apt search was a good suggestion |
| 13:25.12 | kneekoo | I did this: apt search ^vlc$ |
| 13:25.46 | kill0rmachine | ah nice it takes regex |
| 13:25.50 | kneekoo | this will match the exact package name and it displays it if it exists in the repository/cache |
| 13:26.06 | kill0rmachine | yeah tried it out |
| 13:26.11 | kill0rmachine | cool |
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| 13:26.31 | kneekoo | I still get an exit code 0, but all I have is to combine it with | wc -l |
| 13:26.51 | kneekoo | then in my script I can check for the line count :P |
| 13:27.42 | kneekoo | I wish apt/dpkg would make this easier, but at least I found a solution :) |
| 13:27.52 | kill0rmachine | [[ -z $(apt-cache search ^xyz$) ]]&& echo empty |
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| 13:28.19 | kill0rmachine | -z if empty or 0 true |
| 13:28.32 | kill0rmachine | -n if not empty |
| 13:28.59 | kneekoo | nice, thanks! :) |
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| 13:37.08 | kill0rmachine | guess apt-cache search returns at least a newline thats why wc -l shows 1 |
| 13:37.54 | kill0rmachine | apt-cache search ^xyz$ | awk '{print $1}' | wc -l |
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| 14:37.51 | physkets | AliceKelly BCMM The drive in the machine turned out to be an mSATA based SSD, and my laptop doesn't have an mSATA port... |
| 14:38.00 | physkets | so I'll have to find something that has one |
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| 14:38.28 | AliceKelly | or buy a cheap card to connect it to |
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| 14:41.41 | physkets | Are there mSATA to USB adapters? |
| 14:42.03 | brutser | trying to set desktop preferences, like hide trash icon, wallpaper for certain user. how do I get this done? normally would use gsettings, but doing this with a live-cd build? |
| 14:43.28 | AliceKelly | i think so |
| 14:43.51 | brutser | should i put the gsettings commands to .bashrc for the specific user? does not sound logical |
| 14:44.00 | AliceKelly | live cds in general wont let you change anything |
| 14:44.51 | somiaj | there are ways to change things with live cds. |
| 14:45.16 | brutser | somiaj: yes i just try to find the correct way |
| 14:45.23 | somiaj | brutser: define what you mean by live-cd build? And there are ways to have a live image and have a persistant home you can do stuff like that in |
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| 14:46.00 | AliceKelly | what she said |
| 14:46.02 | somiaj | though the guides on how to do this with debian live cds keep changing. In jessie it use to be using syslinux, but there is now a way to do this while allowing the live cd to boot both efi and legacy. Various guides on how to do this out tehre. |
| 14:46.23 | AliceKelly | i screwd my distro somehow |
| 14:46.46 | brutser | somiaj: it's a custom build, no persistence, but you can do the config for that, i add a user, but i trying to figure out how to set prefs for desktop for the user |
| 14:47.04 | brutser | you basically can do at 2 stages chroot or binary |
| 14:47.13 | somiaj | brutser: provdied it is built as a live image, you should be able to add persistance to it as if it were a live image. |
| 14:47.42 | brutser | https://github.com/offensive-security/kali-linux-recipes/blob/master/kali-linux-mate-top10-nonroot.sh |
| 14:47.47 | brutser | i tried this method |
| 14:48.02 | brutser | but basically here they are ommitting to create a user |
| 14:48.07 | brutser | live distro starts as root |
| 14:48.29 | somiaj | brutser: are you able to create a second partition on the usb stick with that live image? |
| 14:48.42 | brutser | somiaj: yes but that is not what i want |
| 14:49.05 | brutser | that script i pasted is assuming that will work for the root user |
| 14:49.20 | brutser | at chroot stage the additional user has not been added yet |
| 14:49.49 | brutser | with live build you can get interactive shell during build time |
| 14:49.59 | brutser | but running the gsetting then will not work |
| 14:50.00 | somiaj | personally that is what I would use, create a second ext4 partition, call it 'persistent' or something like that, boot with the boot flag 'live persistent' |
| 14:50.43 | somiaj | ahh so you just want this on the live image, you don't actually want peristant, maybe try #debian-live on irc.oftc.net, someone there maybe more familar with live-build |
| 14:51.00 | brutser | somiaj: ok, but that is not needed to change system prefs, if you want them permanent, you can configure them for the distro |
| 14:51.15 | brutser | i asked on debian-live, but hardly any activity there for last days |
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| 14:51.41 | somiaj | well it is a small channel, you may need to wait around, but you'll actually get responses by people who are familar with livebuild |
| 14:52.27 | somiaj | brutser: are you able to add stuff to /etc, you could add that to /etc/skel, and then when you create the user, it gets coppied? |
| 14:53.38 | somiaj | or I wonder if you could make some debian package that installs something in /etc/skel, then that can be used to create the user |
| 14:53.40 | brutser | somiaj: the script suggests that yes, just it does not get executed it seems |
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| 15:25.53 | velix | Sometimes I'm just going CRAZY... |
| 15:26.13 | velix | After 3 hours of debugging, why IP forwarding didn't work, I figured out: it's not names eth0 ;)) |
| 15:26.26 | velix | s/names/named |
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| 15:30.34 | somiaj | you can change it back to eth0 if you like |
| 15:30.41 | somiaj | you can actually make the name anything you want. |
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| 15:31.21 | kill0rmachine | how can i give a custom name to iface? |
| 15:31.31 | somiaj | kill0rmachine: man systemd.link |
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| 15:32.09 | somiaj | the old udev rules work too if you have the macaddress, I have that on my system since it was an upgrde from before systemd |
| 15:32.40 | somiaj | but systemd.link provides you a way to name your interfaces using systemd |
| 15:34.13 | velix | somiaj: yeah, it's a VMware thing. |
| 15:34.26 | velix | somiaj: I've just changed my code ... eth0 isn't a must. |
| 15:34.32 | velix | somiaj: I just didn't check before ;) |
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| 15:42.23 | orblivion | hm, ok, trying something weird |
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| 15:44.04 | NicolaiVdS | o/ im trying to make a webhook for our git server (selfhosted gitlab) to make it auto pull on a push but now im faceing a strange issue when it try's to pull it askes for the git password (only does that on the admin account not the root) |
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| 15:44.36 | NicolaiVdS | any know what this can be becuase our git server only uses ssh key to push and pull |
| 15:45.37 | somiaj | does the user running the hook script have its ssh key configured correctly? |
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| 15:46.23 | somiaj | or is the enviorment setup in the script run by the hook correctly so the ssh key can be found? |
| 15:47.18 | NicolaiVdS | its has the key in its .ssh folder and the user.email is a global value |
| 15:47.48 | somiaj | could it be that the enviorment being used when the hook is run isn't set up correctly? |
| 15:48.32 | NicolaiVdS | somiaj how do you mean ? |
| 15:48.58 | somiaj | in order fo the ssh key to be found $HOME and the user running the script triggered by the webhook need to be configured correctly |
| 15:49.12 | somiaj | since I'm unsure what sort of webserver you setup for this webhook, this is just a guess |
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| 15:50.07 | NicolaiVdS | a need to look into that (any tips for that ?) and im using vestacp (apache2 + nginx proxy) |
| 15:50.25 | NicolaiVdS | and the hook itself is php executing a sh file |
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| 15:53.05 | Mysterytrain | what is the code for linux swap now that it is no longer 82? I'm in debian-installer and there is no "less" to display the codes |
| 15:53.26 | somiaj | in the one system I did that in, I set the HOME= and various other varioubles in the script (though I don't use ssh keys) |
| 15:53.51 | somiaj | NicolaiVdS: what user is the shell script running as? I perosnally just used a simple python server for my use |
| 15:54.14 | NicolaiVdS | admin is running it |
| 15:54.56 | NicolaiVdS | a sudo'er |
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| 15:55.53 | somiaj | well if you can run the script manually as the user and it works, but not from the hook, this means something about the enviorment is not setup correctly. |
| 15:56.33 | NicolaiVdS | i can run it as the user but it asks for a password |
| 15:56.38 | NicolaiVdS | thats the problem |
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| 15:56.48 | NicolaiVdS | its not using the key |
| 15:57.11 | NicolaiVdS | only root can pull and push :s |
| 15:57.15 | NicolaiVdS | not any other user |
| 15:57.40 | somiaj | well is the key setup for other users, or just root? |
| 15:58.00 | somiaj | anyways seem like some configuration issue with the enviorment/key, but I don't know enough to say exactly where |
| 15:58.37 | somiaj | try git pull -v as the user, and see if you can get any info about what it is trying. |
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| 16:00.38 | NicolaiVdS | ok |
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| 16:01.31 | NicolaiVdS | nothing it asked for the pass |
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| 16:02.01 | somiaj | and the ssh key is located in $HOME/.ssh, and $HOME/.ssh and the key all have correct permisions? |
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| 16:03.21 | somiaj | found this on stack exchange, in the git repo, look at .git/config, what is the url listed there? |
| 16:03.33 | somiaj | url = .... |
| 16:04.19 | NicolaiVdS | derp of me |
| 16:04.30 | somiaj | it says https instead of ssh I'm assuming |
| 16:04.35 | NicolaiVdS | the key ways only readable by root gg me |
| 16:04.41 | NicolaiVdS | (facepalm) |
| 16:04.43 | somiaj | ahh there you go |
| 16:04.55 | NicolaiVdS | so stupid of me |
| 16:04.59 | somiaj | ssh is very particular about permissions on keys |
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| 16:30.11 | ska | I tried Firefox Quantum and it seemed a lot slower than ESR. |
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| 16:43.14 | ska | Setting accessibility.force_disabled = 1 helps a lot |
| 16:44.16 | hypn0 | it faster here without that? did you try a new profile? |
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| 16:51.50 | brutser | is there some kind of minimal package for wine on debian? or do i have to install full wine, wine32, wine64? |
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| 16:52.32 | hypn0 | do you need wine :-/ |
| 16:53.33 | brutser | hypn0: yes i know, but i really need macro function in notepad++ and notepadqq is not compiling on debian with me and also not sure if that has the macro recording option |
| 16:53.41 | velix | When using "unshare --mount-proc", why do I still need to mount proc inside the chroot? |
| 16:53.46 | velix | Is this a bug? |
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| 16:54.21 | hypn0 | https://wiki.debian.org/Wine brutser I am not sure |
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| 16:55.51 | KaffeeJunky123 | Hi, I'm having some trouble with making a bootable usb pendrive, when it's unmounted the partitions don't show up anymore, it's just listed as /dev/sdf and it's not recognized as a drive in parted, any ideas what could be causing that? |
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| 16:58.31 | hypn0 | there is a snaps version too brutser it seems |
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| 16:58.53 | p3rs3us | hey guys, thunar in xfce seems to freeze all the time for me. I found the issue reported in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=867211. However, the current version in stable is 1.6.11-1, but the fix (patch) only applies to version 1.6.12-1, or higher and there is no thunar in stretch backports. What is advice to do in this circumstances to solve this issue? |
| 16:58.54 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/867211 in thunar (closed): «thunar: freeze when content of a folder changes rapidly»; severity: important; opened: 2017-07-04; last modified: 2017-08-31. |
| 16:58.58 | brutser | hypn0: where? |
| 16:59.10 | hypn0 | https://snapcraft.io/notepadqq |
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| 17:03.08 | petn-randall | p3rs3us: You can build your own Debian package and apply the patch. However it might be worth poking the maintainer through the bug report. |
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| 17:04.26 | p3rs3us | petn-randall, i could find a similar one in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=862397 and the same maintainer (Yves-Alexis) he seems that it doesn't care |
| 17:04.27 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/862397 in thunar (closed): «thunar: Thunar crashes when left open for a time showing a folder with thousands of items in it»; severity: important; opened: 2017-05-12; last modified: 2018-05-05. |
| 17:04.54 | p3rs3us | petn-randall, today i have used xkill more than 10 times in thunar .. is really annoying |
| 17:06.36 | velix | Can anyone tell me, if "finit" is a stretch packages? apt-cache search doesn't work in this. |
| 17:08.46 | Ouroboros | KaffeeJunky123: unmounted? |
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| 17:10.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: yes I ejected the drive, because the bootable usb drive tool needs to format stuff |
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| 17:11.57 | Ouroboros | i am confused, if the drive is ejected, then obviously partitions will not show anymore? |
| 17:12.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: in parted? |
| 17:12.31 | Ouroboros | nor would /dev/sdf |
| 17:12.37 | Ouroboros | anywhere |
| 17:12.39 | KaffeeJunky123 | You can't format a mounted drive |
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| 17:12.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | if the filesystem is mounted you cannot format it |
| 17:12.54 | Ouroboros | mounted and ejected are not the same thing |
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| 17:13.25 | Ouroboros | partitions can be mounted and unmounted, drives can be inserted or ejected |
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| 17:14.40 | Ouroboros | not trying to be cpt obvious, just trying to clarify what you are actually doing |
| 17:15.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: what does the arrow button next to a partition in the file manager do? unmount or eject? |
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| 17:15.16 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: well anyways, I tried both through the guy and using the unmount command on the folder |
| 17:15.18 | Ouroboros | no idea, i dont use such graphical tools |
| 17:15.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | Afterwards it is no longer visible in parted |
| 17:15.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | which happens to be what WoeUSB is using in the background to format drives |
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| 17:17.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: there's also a different issue with this drive, it has a U3 partition from sandisk, that sometimes hangs when I disconnect the drive, I cannot access anything on the drive until I reboot then |
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| 17:18.39 | KaffeeJunky123 | oh well it happend again got to reboot |
| 17:18.43 | Ouroboros | i have a similar drive, i have not had any issue after wiping it and starting from scratch |
| 17:18.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: did you wipe the U3 partition? |
| 17:19.24 | Ouroboros | i think it presents some sort of cd-rom device or partition as well maybe, i dont recall |
| 17:19.29 | p3rs3us | petn-randall, I got the message not delivered while trying to poke the maintainer 867211@bugs.debian.org, The response was: 550 Unknown or archived bug |
| 17:19.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: yes it's presented as a CD-ROM device |
| 17:19.49 | Ouroboros | KaffeeJunky123: i would wipe whatever is possible to wipe first |
| 17:19.59 | p3rs3us | petn-randall, should I should re-open the bug? |
| 17:20.14 | KaffeeJunky123 | well that's the issue that doesn't work :< |
| 17:20.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | Well brb rebooting, cause now it's completely broke |
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| 17:22.41 | nejeeeee | is there a way to load jpg prewievs? |
| 17:23.05 | petn-randall | p3rs3us: Yes, that makes sense. |
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| 17:23.35 | p3rs3us | petn-randall, well i am first trying to email him directly, but I am not sure if that breaks protocol |
| 17:23.36 | karlpinc | nejeeeee: What do you mean "load"? |
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| 17:24.10 | nejeeeee | to see the picture without having to open it |
| 17:24.38 | petn-randall | p3rs3us: It makes more sense to use the bug tracker, if the maintainer gets hit by a bus nobody will see that private mail. |
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| 17:26.06 | karlpinc | nejeeeee: This would be an arbitrary jpg on your computer? |
| 17:26.23 | nejeeeee | yes |
| 17:26.37 | nejeeeee | after you open it one time the preview show up in the icon |
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| 17:27.32 | karlpinc | nejeeeee: Some program is going to have to open the file and read the whole thing in order to generate a "preview". jpgs don't, to my knowledge, come with a built-in thumbnail. |
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| 17:30.05 | p3rs3us | petn-randall, I have nevertheless decided to email her/him directly, depending how she/he answers I will then try to reopen the bug |
| 17:30.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | Thanks for the suggestion of wiping the drive |
| 17:30.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | after reformatting it I could use my USB tool with success |
| 17:31.14 | Ouroboros | hm, ok |
| 17:31.18 | KaffeeJunky123 | Well, atleast it is working on copying the files right now ^_^ |
| 17:31.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: I've no idea why the partition disappeared after using umount still |
| 17:32.13 | Ouroboros | KaffeeJunky123: i was going to say that it sounds like you are ejecting the drive, but something is going wrong and it is not fully ejecting, so /dev/sdf is still present but using it does not work |
| 17:32.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | Yes that's probably what happend when I was using the GUI |
| 17:32.36 | Ouroboros | or maybe that is completely wrong :P |
| 17:32.43 | KaffeeJunky123 | That's when the U3 drive locked up |
| 17:33.15 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: on my reboot the disk manager complained about still having a job running |
| 17:33.28 | Ouroboros | KaffeeJunky123: i would do everything from the command line so that you can see exactly what is going wrong |
| 17:33.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | Well, I can't even see the U3 partition listed in the output of mount |
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| 17:34.30 | Ouroboros | because it is not mounted |
| 17:34.54 | Ouroboros | you can check e.g. dmesg | grep sdf |
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| 17:35.28 | Ouroboros | unless that is a drive with a different name |
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| 17:36.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: I assume the U3 gets a differnt name since there's only sdf and sdf1 in /dev/ when everything is mounted |
| 17:36.14 | Ouroboros | i dont recall whether it is a partition or an actual separate drive |
| 17:36.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | It's handled like a separate drive |
| 17:36.32 | Ouroboros | but still it should all be mentioned in dmesg |
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| 17:38.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: it's sr1, I'll check what dmesg says |
| 17:38.26 | Ouroboros | i never did anything special with that partition |
| 17:38.40 | Ouroboros | nor even eject it |
| 17:39.22 | Ouroboros | i actually ran a full debian system from such a drive for a long time |
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| 17:40.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: tons of IO errors on sr1 of different kind |
| 17:41.24 | Ouroboros | hm |
| 17:41.50 | KaffeeJunky123 | what's an acceptable pastebin here? |
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| 17:43.56 | LtL | KaffeeJunky123: http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 17:47.04 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: there's tons of duplicated error messages, I'll trim it down a bit which will take some time |
| 17:47.27 | Ouroboros | can you just show one line? |
| 17:48.16 | karlpinc | KaffeeJunky123: Basically any pastebin that does not show ads. It's also helpful if cookies and javascript are not hard requirements. |
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| 17:50.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bbd2d56b/ |
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| 17:50.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | karlpinc: I probably wouldn't notice if it shows ads or uses javascript, unless the javascript is from a 3rd party page and required |
| 17:51.14 | KaffeeJunky123 | I block most ads through a scriptblocker |
| 17:51.19 | Ouroboros | KaffeeJunky123: i can't view that right now |
| 17:51.51 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ouroboros: thanks a lot for your help anyways |
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| 17:58.03 | Tech_8 | hi |
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| 17:59.08 | f-a | which paint program do you people use? I feel the need of something lighter than Gimp for basic stuff |
| 18:00.35 | Tech_8 | ms paint |
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| 18:11.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | f-a: depends on what you want to do, there's gpaint if you're looking for something very simplistic |
| 18:12.47 | f-a | thanks KaffeeJunky123 , will try it |
| 18:12.47 | KaffeeJunky123 | For more advanced stuff there's krita |
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| 18:14.58 | f-a | gpaint seems easy enough. I like gimp but every time I spend 30 sec to recall how-that-particular-thing-is-done |
| 18:15.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | Well, gimp aims to be a professional graphic tool |
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| 18:16.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | And it can do many different things |
| 18:16.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | If I remember correctly it supports pressure sensitive tablet input amongst other things |
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| 18:19.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | f-a: It would be easier to give a sound advice if I knew what your goals in painting are. |
| 18:21.12 | f-a | KaffeeJunky123: as now I needed to superimpose a small, crummy, monospace text on an image, so gpaint did it. Some other times it is drawing a simple arrow or underlining/circling some part of it. Some other times taking a portion of the image and scale it 1.3x |
| 18:21.25 | f-a | nothing professional, just to illustrate a point/concept to a workmate |
| 18:21.36 | abrotman | inkscape or scribus might be others |
| 18:22.52 | f-a | noted! |
| 18:23.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | I agree with abrotman |
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| 18:30.51 | woubit | hello, I have a fresh install of debian 9.4, I was able to reboot sucessfully. I left a process running last night and today I wont boot. There are several errors - some are with bluetooth - which I changed a setting as to not start at boot - and then this: drm: radeon_pci_probe [radeon] *Error* radeon kernal mode setting for R600 or later requires frimware-amd-graphics. Which I've gathered is something I need to install using apt. However this doesn't |
| 18:30.52 | woubit | make a ton of sense seeing that I was able to boot before and also I don't have access to any sort of network connection to install this. I can show the rest of the error if needed but don't know what to do next and I'm really not good with grub |
| 18:31.01 | t3st3r | f-a> take a look on mtpaint if you want something light and fast. |
| 18:31.30 | woubit | *errors |
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| 18:31.46 | t3st3r | though it fairly limited compared to gimp and more biased to shuffling pixels rather than advanced image processing |
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| 18:31.59 | karlpinc | f-a: I do all that stuff from the command line with ImageMagick |
| 18:32.08 | f-a | thanks t3st3r |
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| 18:32.22 | f-a | karlpinc: mhhhh even putting circles/arrows? |
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| 18:32.55 | karlpinc | f-a: No. Didn't see that. Just adding text. (It'll do that, but....) |
| 18:33.08 | f-a | okie |
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| 18:34.14 | karlpinc | woubit: When you say "won't boot" what does that mean? What's on the screen, or not? Does, say, Ctrl-Alt-F4 work? |
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| 18:35.47 | t3st3r | f-a> welcome. I do some pixel art using that mtpaint thing and it worked suprisingly well for me granten its relatively small and easy program, |
| 18:36.36 | t3st3r | woubit> *Error* radeon kernal mode setting for R600 or later requires frimware-amd-graphics. <- so apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics, eh? |
| 18:37.42 | woubit | karlpinc, I don't know what ctrl-alt-f4 does but it doesn't appear to work. It displays the usual debian screen - with debian then advanced options - then once it gets to booting debian it asked for the encryption phrase and after thats accepted it starts the process of booting but shows all the errors |
| 18:37.48 | t3st3r | AMD GPUs really need firmware to initialize. I guess it comes from "non-free" section of repos, you should have it enabled. |
| 18:38.29 | woubit | t3st3r, yes but I don't have network connection in recovery mode. And I know the network connection is solid I'm using ethernet and it worked before |
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| 18:40.38 | t3st3r | woubit> is it wired or wireless? |
| 18:40.46 | woubit | wired |
| 18:41.17 | t3st3r | then you can manually bring it up I guess. |
| 18:41.31 | woubit | okay, how do I manage that |
| 18:41.40 | woubit | I don't have ifconfig in recorvery mode |
| 18:42.34 | t3st3r | hmmm then use "ip" I guess? |
| 18:42.42 | t3st3r | is it here? |
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| 18:43.37 | woubit | oh yes its there |
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| 18:45.10 | t3st3r | so it would be like ip addr add <what> dev <something> or so. And then ip link set up dev ... and ip route add default .... I guess. That would give one-shot manual config. |
| 18:45.47 | t3st3r | Take a look if there is dhclient or something in recovery if you use dhcp. |
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| 18:53.04 | nidhoegger | hi. why is wayland set to default for GDM3 but Gnome starts as a Xorg session by default? |
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| 18:54.33 | woubit | t3st3r, in my /etc/network/interfaces I doesn't show I have ethernet. Am I supposed to add that first? |
| 18:55.36 | woubit | wait a minute, actually, if I do - ip addr show - I can see both ethernet and wireless connections |
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| 18:58.07 | karlpinc | woubit: Can you, say "ping -n 8.8.4.4"? |
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| 18:58.36 | woubit | karlpinc, says network unreachable |
| 18:59.02 | karlpinc | woubit: "ip route show"? |
| 18:59.14 | woubit | nada |
| 18:59.26 | karlpinc | woubit: You need a default route. |
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| 18:59.41 | woubit | ok, how do I get that |
| 19:00.28 | karlpinc | woubit: You need your network's gateway address. (Often your IP, only ending in ".1") |
| 19:00.47 | karlpinc | Or .254 |
| 19:01.06 | karlpinc | woubit: You should be able to ping your gateway. |
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| 19:01.41 | t3st3r | or if dhclient is in recovery, use that to setup interface for you... sorry, I'm rarely use "recovery" so I do not remember what's here. |
| 19:02.06 | karlpinc | Yes. dhclient would be best |
| 19:02.26 | woubit | so I tried - dhclient - and it rebooted my computer |
| 19:02.47 | t3st3r | hmm? |
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| 19:03.33 | woubit | also idk what my gateway would be |
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| 19:03.45 | woubit | wouldn't I only know that if I had a current connection? |
| 19:03.52 | Mysterytrain | I had a box that died on which I made an lvm array. before it died though i didn't have the opportunity to do vgexport on there. can I still bring my LVM to the new box, or is my data lost forever and i have to wipe those drives and re-create the lvm array |
| 19:05.36 | t3st3r | Gateway of IPv4 is usually .1 or .254 of used subnet, so if one usually gets IP like 192.168.1.15 they could expect GW to be 192.168.1.1 or .1.254 most of time. |
| 19:05.52 | t3st3r | but it not to be taken as granted, dhcp would know it better |
| 19:06.16 | t3st3r | and I'm surprised dhclient could reboot computer, yikes! |
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| 19:06.39 | t3st3r | (actually I'm damn curious how or why it could happen :D) |
| 19:06.42 | karlpinc | Mysterytrain: I've had lots of luck moving disks with lvm to other boxes. |
| 19:06.46 | Ouroboros | definitely not always though, the gateway may not even be on the same subnet |
| 19:06.50 | woubit | but you said I should be able to ping the gateway |
| 19:06.57 | woubit | I tried and cannot |
| 19:07.31 | t3st3r | so you haven't set interface properly or used wrong addresses |
| 19:07.55 | karlpinc | woubit: "Your network administrator" knows the gateway address. It's in your router -- it's the address of your router on the LAN side (unless you're bridgeing.) |
| 19:09.03 | karlpinc | woubit: (or somebody's done something stupid and your gateway does not respond to pings -- or you have a firewall blocking them, or...) |
| 19:09.55 | woubit | well I looked up what the router ip is on the computer I'm on, and pinged that and it didn't work |
| 19:10.31 | karlpinc | woubit: Will it ping from the computer you're on? |
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| 19:10.59 | woubit | it sure will |
| 19:11.42 | t3st3r | then you messed something. Either wrong addresses or interface not up or something like that? |
| 19:12.03 | Mysterytrain | karlpinc: so do I just hook up the drives and create the same logical volumes using the same order as the last box? |
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| 19:12.23 | karlpinc | woubit: "ip link" sow that the interface is UP? |
| 19:12.31 | velix | When using "unshare --mount-proc", why do I still need to mount proc inside the chroot? |
| 19:13.02 | woubit | yeah, karlpinc, enp2s0 is up |
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| 19:13.28 | woubit | but in /etc/network/interfaces it doesn't show anything but lo |
| 19:13.30 | karlpinc | Mysterytrain: You might just try "lvmchange -ay" and see what happens. I've not worked with an lvm array but I've done that with a pv with some vgs and lvs and it just worked. |
| 19:13.46 | karlpinc | Mysterytrain: Or maybe you need to vgchange -ay. |
| 19:13.53 | Ouroboros | woubit: /etc/network/interfaces is not relevant right now |
| 19:13.59 | woubit | oh |
| 19:14.01 | karlpinc | Mysterytrain: I forget the details. |
| 19:14.08 | Ouroboros | woubit: that is for automatic configuration |
| 19:14.09 | Mysterytrain | karlpinc: thanks. I'l give that awhirl |
| 19:14.21 | woubit | oh okay |
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| 19:14.47 | Ouroboros | woubit: what does |
| 19:15.18 | Ouroboros | woubit: what does 'ip show address' give |
| 19:15.58 | woubit | it says it doesn't know what show it |
| 19:16.08 | woubit | do you mean ip addr show ? |
| 19:16.15 | Ouroboros | yeah, whichever |
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| 19:16.56 | Ouroboros | i last did this yesterday, so it is not like i remember the commands :P |
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| 19:20.22 | woubit | Lo: ⦠|
| 19:20.22 | woubit | Enp2s0: < BROADCAST, MULTICAST, UP LOWER_UP > mtu 1500 disc pfifo_fast state UP group default glen 1000 |
| 19:20.22 | woubit | Link/ether 00:25:ab:91:72:c8 brb ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff |
| 19:20.22 | woubit | Inet6 [ethernet address] scope global mngtmpaddr dynamic valid_lft 60447sec preferred_lft 60447sec |
| 19:20.22 | woubit | Inet6 [ethernet addr] scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever |
| 19:20.22 | woubit | Wlp4s0: â¦. |
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| 19:21.09 | woubit | whoops |
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| 19:24.17 | Ouroboros | so you have not added an address yet |
| 19:24.36 | Mysterytrain | karlpinc: we're up and running, thanks much |
| 19:24.36 | woubit | okay |
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| 19:25.23 | woubit | I just tried - ip route add defaullt via 192.168.1.1 and it says Network unreachable |
| 19:25.39 | Ouroboros | sure |
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| 19:27.07 | Ouroboros | you need to add your own address first: ip address add <address> dev enp2s0 |
| 19:27.36 | Ouroboros | but why are you doing this from recovery anyway? |
| 19:27.41 | woubit | and what would <address> be? the gateway? |
| 19:27.46 | woubit | because I can't boot |
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| 19:28.26 | Ouroboros | nothing that you have said so far suggests that it did not boot |
| 19:28.44 | woubit | I think you missed the first part of the conversation |
| 19:29.18 | Ouroboros | no, i saw the thing about amd firmware, but that should not prevent the console from working |
| 19:29.35 | woubit | okay, do you want to see the rest of the errors |
| 19:29.48 | woubit | theres like 8 of them |
| 19:29.57 | woubit | 4 are more of less the same |
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| 19:34.13 | woubit | sp5100_tco: I/O address 0x0cd6 already in use |
| 19:34.23 | woubit | Bluetooth hcio: |
| 19:34.23 | woubit | Firmware: failed to load rtl_bt/rtl8821a_config.bin |
| 19:34.23 | woubit | Firmware: failed to load rtl_bt/rtl8821a_fw.bin |
| 19:34.23 | woubit | Rtl882ae: firmware failed to load |
| 19:34.23 | woubit | Relwifi/rtl882aefw_wowlan.bin |
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| 19:34.47 | t3st3r | <woubit> because I can't boot <- well, you can try booting with "nomodeset" kernel cmdline. |
| 19:34.52 | woubit | fell for it again |
| 19:35.09 | t3st3r | and do not paste more than 3-4 lines to IRC :P |
| 19:35.23 | woubit | oh okay hahaha |
| 19:35.26 | woubit | okay let me see |
| 19:35.32 | woubit | and thats in grub? |
| 19:36.39 | Ouroboros | <tab> on a grub menu entry, then edit the kernel command line |
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| 19:42.59 | woubit | correct me if I'm wrong, I suck at grub, but I pressed e, then added nomodeset to the line: linux /vmlinuz-4.9.0.6 ... ro quiet, then ctrl-x to boot, just got the same result |
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| 19:47.18 | Ouroboros | but can you get a console on <ctrl>-<alt>-<f1>, <ctrl>-<alt>-<f2>, etc? |
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| 19:48.22 | woubit | no |
| 19:48.36 | woubit | I think I'm just going to reinstall |
| 19:48.49 | woubit | thank for all the help though |
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| 19:49.31 | brutser | when i do live-build with --interactive shell i get a cmd at chroot for the live system, but i always get an error here: "mesg: ttyname failed: inappropriate ioctl for device" - how can i fix this? |
| 19:50.10 | t3st3r | <woubit> I think I'm just going to reinstall <- install amd firmwares before reboot. |
| 19:50.38 | woubit | after the fresh install? |
| 19:51.34 | karlpinc | woubit: Best to use the unoffical installer with non-free firmware. And check that the right firmware is installed before reboot. |
| 19:52.13 | karlpinc | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-inclu\ |
| 19:52.13 | karlpinc | ding-firmware/current/ |
| 19:52.25 | karlpinc | (er, without the \) |
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| 19:55.53 | woubit | okay thanks karlpinc |
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| 20:02.29 | Ouroboros | woubit: i don't think a reinstall is necessary, but up to you |
| 20:03.21 | woubit | kek I actually figured it out... its my boot key I was in the process of setting one up and I make the boot key the usb drive I installed from smh |
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| 21:38.35 | Ouroboros | why do most sources recommend setting bash HIST* in .profile instead of .bashrc? this causes non-login shells to not have these? why is that desirable? |
| 21:39.53 | Ouroboros | well, unless the non-login shells inherit them anyway |
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| 22:17.14 | edju | Possible to install kde3 in Jessie? |
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| 22:27.06 | ldvd85 | Hi guy, do you know why Secret Maryo Chronicles isn't in Debian 9 repository ? |
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| 22:36.56 | somiaj | ldvd85: someone would have to volunteer to package it first off, second double check the license, and ensure it is truely open source. I'm unsure on the details, but there are various reasons, the first being does it meet debian standards, and is someone willing to package (and matain it). I notice it hasn't had any releases since 2009, that could also be why, without active support for the matainer to fix |
| 22:37.02 | somiaj | bugs, it makes things harder |
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| 22:41.37 | ldvd85 | Ok, thank you. I will try compile the game from sources |
| 22:41.41 | somiaj | ldvd85: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=832287 |
| 22:41.43 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/832287 in wnpp (open): «RFP: tsc -- The Secret Chronicles of Dr. M.»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2016-07-23; last modified: 2017-10-27. |
| 22:41.58 | somiaj | seems the one you mention has been dead for years, there is an rfp request for the newer remake (or based on game) |
| 22:42.35 | somiaj | but unless someone actually decides to package it and maintain it, you are kinda left to installing from source |
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| 22:45.06 | somiaj | tsc seems to have some debs that may work in stretch, ymmv, they were created in 2016 slightly before the freeze, so it is a possibility, but not guarnteed. |
| 22:45.46 | somiaj | but I think using the github source will be the most realabile way, and ocmpile it, install in /usr/local |
| 22:52.41 | ldvd85 | Now I'm try compiling smc, later try tsc |
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| 22:58.43 | craftyguy | is the loop driver built into the kernel on debian, or built as a loadable module? |
| 22:59.08 | somiaj | craftyguy: /boot/config-<version> contains the build config for the kernel, you can check there |
| 22:59.25 | somiaj | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m |
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| 22:59.30 | craftyguy | yea, I'm just not on a debian system at the moment but trying to plan for one :( |
| 22:59.39 | craftyguy | ok thank you :) |
| 22:59.52 | somiaj | that is part of the debian package, you could download and extract it if needed |
| 23:00.30 | craftyguy | I see, ok |
| 23:00.51 | somiaj | yea, debian ships the file in the pcakge so you can see the build config without having to be running the particular kernel |
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| 23:09.25 | tyzef | hi all ! my debian there is no graphique environement, no server X... my question is can reduce the liight of the screen? |
| 23:09.46 | tyzef | it pain my eyes |
| 23:10.04 | somiaj | is this a laptop? |
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| 23:11.34 | tyzef | yes somiaj its an eeepc asus |
| 23:12.00 | somiaj | I think you can adjust the backlight via kernel commands, unsure on the specific details |
| 23:12.16 | somiaj | tyzef: do you see anything in 'ls /sys/class/backllight' |
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| 23:12.38 | tyzef | i check and come back |
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| 23:13.31 | herbygranted | Search on twitter pass it on |
| 23:13.34 | herbygranted | #opensourceconsolidation |
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| 23:14.05 | tyzef | acpi_video0 intel_backlight |
| 23:14.49 | tyzef | somiaj acpi_video0 intel_backlight |
| 23:14.58 | somiaj | tyzef: inside those directories are places you can manually adjust the bbacklight as root, most likely the intel_backlight should work, check max_brightness for the maximum value, and you can adjust the value in the brightness file |
| 23:16.33 | tyzef | somiaj could you detail me more about because i am low in comptering |
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| 23:16.44 | somiaj | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/backlight |
| 23:16.54 | ikonia | herbygranted: you've been asked not to spam multiple times now |
| 23:16.58 | ikonia | herbygranted: please stop joining channels to spam |
| 23:17.43 | tyzef | thank you so much somiaj |
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| 23:21.00 | f3r70rr35f | hey there! |
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| 23:22.12 | herbygranted | Quick action, promote consolidation coordination on open source project |
| 23:22.16 | herbygranted | #opensourceconsolidation |
| 23:23.03 | ikonia | herbygranted: please stop spamming |
| 23:23.18 | herbygranted | ? |
| 23:23.19 | ikonia | herbygranted: you've been asked multiple times and twice in this channel alone |
| 23:23.34 | ikonia | herbygranted: stop spamming your stupid twitter hashtag |
| 23:23.46 | herbygranted | Where is the spam i don't see |
| 23:23.52 | herbygranted | ? |
| 23:23.54 | ikonia | herbygranted: what you are posting is spam |
| 23:24.00 | ikonia | you're in a support channel for debian |
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| 23:24.47 | herbygranted | What is another way to comunicate this message ? |
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| 23:25.03 | ikonia | people will find it on twitter if they are interested |
| 23:25.19 | ikonia | you don't need to post it |
| 23:25.26 | herbygranted | How to make it interested ? |
| 23:25.42 | ikonia | it's offtopic for this channel |
| 23:25.46 | ikonia | this isn't a marketing channel |
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| 23:26.55 | herbygranted | Yes i wan make good PR for open source project |
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| 23:27.24 | herbygranted | So what is wrong wit this idea? |
| 23:27.53 | herbygranted | with* |
| 23:28.04 | ikonia | this channel is not a PR channel |
| 23:28.19 | ikonia | you won't find any channel on freenode that wants this spam, so please stop |
| 23:28.40 | herbygranted | I look for people |
| 23:29.07 | herbygranted | #lean #agile in opensource |
| 23:29.31 | herbygranted | I want to promote |
| 23:29.31 | tyzef | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.42 | herbygranted | Talk |
| 23:29.48 | tyzef | here for debian |
| 23:29.54 | tyzef | onl;y debian |
| 23:29.54 | ikonia | herbygranted: you're in a channel that is specifically for debian support |
| 23:30.19 | ikonia | people know about lean and agile - you don't need to promote |
| 23:30.27 | herbygranted | I make prepaer to ostree-deb installer for ostree |
| 23:30.29 | tyzef | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.55 | herbygranted | Base on debian system endless os |
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