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| 00:01.42 | bites | where is the quilt howto now that alioth is gone? http://pkg-perl.alioth.debian.org/howto/quilt.html |
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| 00:09.01 | bites | uff, this looks like it, just not compiled. https://salsa.debian.org/perl-team/perl-team.pages.debian.net/blob/master/howto/quilt.pod |
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| 00:11.00 | michael2 | ah, looking at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start the final command does `exec $STARTUP. so If I understand correctly if you put your final `exec window manager ' in ~/.xinitc - your window manager may not get exec'ed at all? |
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| 00:21.11 | michael2 | mnuhmnuh: do you know what gets sourced/exec'ed when lightdm is the DM? |
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| 00:27.34 | mnuhmnuh | michael2: i know mate (& etc) remembers some stuff automagically, but even lightdm-->fluxbox isn't trad. *nix .xsession - doesn't use it. |
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| 00:32.31 | michael2 | mnuhmnuh: I think thats why the debian xinit wiki and the debian version of `man startx' recommend using ~/.xsession for starting your X11 session, because its read by a greater number of login managers, both startx/xinit and the GUI ones (man startx specifically references xdm - which I dont think is commonly used anymore) |
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| 00:33.25 | michael2 | whereas the GUI login managers possibly skip .xinitrc? |
| 00:33.30 | somiaj | michael2: it depends on the Xsession you use (Such as the de you pick), did you read that wiki link about Xsession? |
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| 00:35.02 | michael2 | somiaj: I have the debian Xsession wiki in front of me right now. please feel free to quiz me on any part of it :) |
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| 00:37.24 | somiaj | the system wide confguation at the top is a good place to start, but note the actually xsession run depends on which xsession is chosen by the dm |
| 00:38.21 | capn | I'm using lightdm and i3wm. did an experiment the other day to see which files get loaded for environment variables. |
| 00:38.33 | capn | from first to last.. meaning last overwrites the first |
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| 00:39.20 | capn | 1. /etc/environment 2./etc/security/pam_env.conf 3. ~/.xsessionrc 4. /etc/bashrc 5. ~/.bashrc |
| 00:39.27 | capn | 4 is the wrong name |
| 00:39.47 | capn | it's bash.bashrc |
| 00:40.03 | bites | ohh, it's still hosted here: https://perl-team.pages.debian.net/howto/quilt.html i will write a mail to the debian packaging tutorial author to update the link. |
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| 00:42.33 | somiaj | michael2: also https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch07.en.html#_starting_the_x_window_system which is linked |
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| 00:43.46 | ryouma | huh, is 3 the right name? |
| 00:43.56 | ryouma | i thuoght uit was withuot rc |
| 00:44.55 | ryouma | huh no profile? |
| 00:45.10 | capn | yes |
| 00:45.14 | capn | had to create it |
| 00:45.14 | themill | bites: https://perl-team.pages.debian.net/howto/quilt.html |
| 00:45.28 | capn | and no, ~/.bash_profile is not loaded |
| 00:45.35 | ryouma | i mean /etc/profile and .bash_profile are not on the list |
| 00:45.43 | capn | ~/.profile is ignored too |
| 00:45.43 | apt | capn: okay |
| 00:45.49 | ryouma | huh |
| 00:46.02 | ryouma | that's werid |
| 00:46.18 | ryouma | i wonder what the sequence is for my primitive startx |
| 00:46.21 | ryouma | and fluxbox |
| 00:46.55 | somiaj | ryouma: might be with how the displaymanager launches the shell. |
| 00:47.14 | capn | not sure. I just made a variable like export SET_IN_BASHRC=yes then checked |
| 00:47.49 | capn | then I made the same variable in each file and deleted them one by one to find the order |
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| 00:48.10 | capn | not quite the most scientific approach but I think I got it figured out haha |
| 00:49.18 | michael2 | for me, the way X is started is systemd starts the system in "graphical target" but when it hits the graphical target unit file - it doesn't exist - then some systemd process - maybe logind? starts /bin/login which gives me a getty prompt - I login to that whihc give me a login shell - from that I run startx - which exec's xinit, which forks xorg server - through /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (and I assume at this |
| 00:49.20 | michael2 | point reads /etc/X11/Xorg.conf scripts) - then (on the original xinit process) executes /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc which sources all the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ which finally runs your chosen user config X start file which for me is ~/.xsession (but this is dependent on your login/display manager) - the final command in ~/.xsession is to exec the window manager |
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| 00:50.24 | capn | also /etc/profile just sources the /etc/profile.d directory so it's not recommended to edit that file |
| 00:50.53 | capn | i made an entry in there too and it didn't get loaded on login on local machine |
| 00:51.12 | capn | it did, however get loaded when I ssh'd into another machine. I tested that too |
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| 00:52.35 | somiaj | well that is due to how bash treats login shells vs interactive shells |
| 00:52.40 | capn | yes |
| 00:53.04 | capn | I was trying to learn the difference and where I should really store certain environment variables |
| 00:53.25 | somiaj | or just be lazy like me and source one from the other |
| 00:53.38 | somiaj | I don't really have a reason my login shells need different enviorment than my interactive ones |
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| 00:54.22 | michael2 | prob the safest place is /etc/<shell>/env - it always gets sourced on every shell start whether its login/non-login interactive/scripting shell etc |
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| 00:54.39 | capn | I was getting curious because I edited the custom PS1 from a site that changed the hostname's colors depending on certain criteria |
| 00:54.41 | Ouroboros | somiaj: it already does that by default |
| 00:54.54 | capn | and it wasn't working because I was sourcing my ~/.bashrc |
| 00:55.11 | capn | instead of a global one I guess |
| 00:55.49 | somiaj | Ouroboros: I don't really know what modern defaults are, because my $HOME dir has been around since 2000ish, and so I have to manually update things. |
| 00:56.38 | Ouroboros | somiaj: currently profile sources .bashrc, so i just put everything in the latter |
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| 00:57.22 | capn | what I've found is that the /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/environment, and the /etc/security/pam_env.conf all get sourced |
| 00:57.28 | capn | on this setup |
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| 01:06.13 | maxcell_ | xD, i edit the /etc/fstab to add an partition with the following option: uuid=1000. When my system boot it says this option doesn't exist and my console is LOCKED so i can't re-edit because i don't have a Console. What should i do??? |
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| 01:07.14 | maxcell_ | I've tried to boot in recovery mode but the same message apears during boot and i get locked from my own system |
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| 01:07.52 | mefistofeles | hello |
| 01:08.16 | mefistofeles | for some reason, using a static network configuration via /etc/network/interface I have to manually run systemctl restart networking for network to work/setup |
| 01:08.18 | maxcell_ | appreciate any help |
| 01:08.21 | mefistofeles | any ideas why is this happening? |
| 01:09.03 | somiaj | mefistofeles: 1000 deson't sound like a uuid |
| 01:09.12 | mefistofeles | somiaj: sorry? |
| 01:09.17 | somiaj | maxcell_: ^^ |
| 01:09.18 | maxcell_ | somiaj, hi |
| 01:09.20 | somiaj | mefistofeles: bad tab completion |
| 01:09.24 | mefistofeles | npp |
| 01:09.27 | Ouroboros | it's not, it's more of a uid |
| 01:09.28 | somiaj | maxcell_: you'll have to boot up into a live system, and fix it |
| 01:09.31 | maxcell_ | somiaj, uuid like account ID |
| 01:09.38 | Ouroboros | maxcell_: no |
| 01:09.47 | maxcell_ | what is uuid? |
| 01:09.53 | somiaj | maxcell_: uuid is not an account id, it is a unique id to identify a file system |
| 01:10.04 | maxcell_ | OH MAN |
| 01:10.06 | Ouroboros | maxcell_: why do you want to change it, if you don't know what it is? |
| 01:10.12 | maxcell_ | thats true o mass it up |
| 01:10.15 | capn | blkid |
| 01:10.20 | somiaj | mefistofeles: can you share your interfaces file? Also instead of restarting the network interface, just run ifup interface name. |
| 01:10.23 | maxcell_ | how do i fix it? |
| 01:10.32 | maxcell_ | will i have access in livesystem? |
| 01:10.48 | somiaj | maxcell_: boot from a livecd, and edit the file, and put the correct uuid there, your system wont' work unless you have the partition correctly identified |
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| 01:11.15 | maxcell_ | i have the uuid set i just want to mount it to my regular user be able to write in |
| 01:11.38 | somiaj | maxcell_: that depends on the actual file system being used. What file system is this partition |
| 01:11.43 | maxcell_ | ext4 |
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| 01:12.36 | maxcell_ | its uid=1000 instead of uuid right? |
| 01:12.55 | somiaj | ext4 has no uid option |
| 01:13.03 | maxcell_ | lol |
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| 01:13.11 | somiaj | ext4 is a standard unix file system, change permeisions like you would using chmod and chown |
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| 01:13.21 | maxcell_ | oh |
| 01:13.24 | maxcell_ | get it |
| 01:13.33 | mefistofeles | somiaj: https://bpaste.net/show/4b5f9981b474 this is my interfaces file |
| 01:13.40 | maxcell_ | doesn't need umask as well? |
| 01:14.12 | mefistofeles | somiaj: some IPs are filtered, of course |
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| 01:14.41 | maxcell_ | somiaj, thanks man |
| 01:14.50 | maxcell_ | Ouroboros, you 2 |
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| 01:19.01 | somiaj | maxcell_: umask just affects default file permisions (not ownership) |
| 01:19.15 | somiaj | mefistofeles: wonder if the networking service is just running a bit to early for your bridge to be brought up. |
| 01:19.55 | maxcell_ | somiaj, yes i would put umask=0127 and chown root.myuser |
| 01:20.15 | somiaj | mefistofeles: when your system comes up, check systemctl status networking, see if you can figure out why it is failing. Also I wonder if line 12, allow-hotplug en01 is getting in the way. |
| 01:20.17 | maxcell_ | ext4 can read umask? |
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| 01:20.56 | somiaj | mefistofeles: on my bridge, I don't have my manual device being brought up, and allow-hotplug eno1 may try to bring it up when you boot if it is plugged in, but on my system it is my bridge that brings it up. |
| 01:21.00 | Ouroboros | mefistofeles: you got *every* dns in there, eh? |
| 01:21.21 | somiaj | mefistofeles: and you have resolvconf package installed right? |
| 01:21.31 | maxcell_ | somiaj, i meant umask=0117 |
| 01:21.43 | maxcell_ | or 0077 idk |
| 01:21.46 | maxcell_ | ext4 can read umask? |
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| 01:21.58 | Ouroboros | mefistofeles: what is 127.0.0.1? dnscrypt-proxy? |
| 01:22.02 | mefistofeles | Ouroboros: :) |
| 01:22.09 | mefistofeles | Ouroboros: dnsmasq |
| 01:22.31 | Ouroboros | ah |
| 01:22.33 | mefistofeles | somiaj: I don't have resolvconf pkg isntalled, didn't need one in old server, but not sure |
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| 01:23.26 | Ouroboros | mefistofeles: i am looking at all these different new things right now |
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| 01:24.03 | mefistofeles | somiaj: it may be the hotplug option |
| 01:24.08 | mefistofeles | I gotta run, sorry |
| 01:24.12 | mefistofeles | but thanks for the feedback |
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| 01:28.03 | somiaj | mefistofeles: one doens't really need it, but that dns-nameservers option won't do much without it (openresolv is an alternative) |
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| 01:28.24 | somiaj | though nothing wrong with manually editing /etc/resolv.conf, you have nothing that would overwrite it in your setup |
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| 01:30.12 | Ouroboros | the whole resolver system needs a major overhaul |
| 01:30.27 | maxcell_ | somiaj, when i'm in the live system, i just need to simply mount my system in wherever dir? (my system isn't encrypted) |
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| 01:31.12 | Guest7296 | hi.... got a thinkpad, trying to find out what firmware to install for an rtl something... Ill get you the pciid |
| 01:32.48 | dvs | !tell Guest7296 about firmware iso |
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| 01:33.42 | Guest7296 | [10ec:8172] |
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| 01:33.58 | Guest7296 | already got debian installed |
| 01:34.30 | Ouroboros | there is some sort of pciiid command here |
| 01:34.38 | dvs | Guest7296, did you add the non-free repos? |
| 01:34.52 | dvs | ,pciid 10ec:8172 |
| 01:34.53 | judd | [10ec:8172] is 'RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'rtl8192se' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8172 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 01:35.03 | Guest7296 | I can do that now |
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| 01:35.45 | somiaj | maxcell_: yes, mount the partition, then edit the fstab file |
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| 01:36.10 | somiaj | Ouroboros: it works just fine in most cases, most issues with it are multiple things fighting over control |
| 01:36.12 | maxcell_ | somiaj, ok thanks bro |
| 01:36.25 | somiaj | which is what resolvconf and openresolv provide, the ability to better control it |
| 01:36.34 | Ouroboros | somiaj: i just mean that there is a lot of legacy crap from the 1980s |
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| 01:39.44 | Guest7296 | stretch has non-free but stretch-updates doesnt |
| 01:40.03 | dvs | sure it does |
| 01:40.26 | Guest7296 | not my soyurces, should I add it? |
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| 01:41.08 | dvs | Guest7296, sure |
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| 01:42.04 | Guest7296 | to install the rtl firmware? |
| 01:42.22 | Guest7296 | [10ec:8172] |
| 01:42.32 | dvs | Well, you won't need it to install the firmware. |
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| 01:42.40 | joze | rasta than light fw? |
| 01:43.15 | Guest7296 | what package should I install? |
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| 01:44.35 | dvs | Guest7296, firmware-realtek |
| 01:45.14 | Guest7296 | the wireless sorta works, it disconnects a lot' |
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| 01:47.39 | Guest7296 | ok, how to activate the firmware? |
| 01:47.59 | dvs | reboot |
| 01:48.20 | Guest7296 | yeah ok... outtahere! |
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| 01:50.21 | whatsabinki3 | hi |
| 01:50.42 | somiaj | or reload the module |
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| 02:02.15 | pandas_best_frie | My laptop's HDMI monitor port doesn't work in Debian 9. It does in Windows 10. The Debian bug report system says you must point at a package. Which package should I be submitting a bug report against? |
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| 02:08.15 | somiaj | pandas_best_frie: what graphics card are you using and what version of debian are you running? And by doesn't work, what have you tried to make it work? |
| 02:10.07 | pandas_best_frie | somiaj: Intel HD 4000 integrated. my Debian 9 is completely updated. |
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| 02:10.53 | somiaj | so what have you done to try to make your hdmi output work? Are you running xorg right now? Can you share the output of 'xrandr -q' at paste.debian.net? |
| 02:10.55 | pandas_best_frie | somiaj: I tried switching the graphics driver, but then my system booted to black. |
| 02:11.06 | somiaj | what did you try to switch the graphics driver too? |
| 02:11.19 | somiaj | you should most likely be using the default modesetting driver and not the intel driver with xorg. |
| 02:12.16 | pandas_best_frie | I tried the Nvidia driver, which made my machine freeze |
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| 02:12.31 | somiaj | well duh, nvidia driver won't work with intel |
| 02:12.52 | pandas_best_frie | I'm sorry, forgive me, multiple graphics hardwares: Intel HD 4000 integrated and NVIDIA NVS 5200M |
| 02:13.07 | Ouroboros | oh gawd |
| 02:13.09 | somiaj | so you have optimus hardware. |
| 02:13.10 | Ouroboros | sorry |
| 02:13.33 | somiaj | anyways, this hardware has poor support in linux in general, no bug report is oging to help that. But make sure you look in how to use it |
| 02:14.05 | pandas_best_frie | You've tried to help me before somiaj, and I appreciate it a lot and thank you very much. I'm just finally getting around to trying to report it more officially than on IRC. |
| 02:14.08 | somiaj | though wait, this is much older hardware than I'm use to seeing with optimius |
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| 02:14.25 | Ouroboros | it may be better to enable one or the other |
| 02:14.30 | Ouroboros | in the bios |
| 02:14.48 | somiaj | I don't really know where is the best place to report this. Also since you aren't running the main ustream kernel, unsure how much support you'll get on that hardware. |
| 02:15.39 | somiaj | I think the issue is more that hardware has poor support in linux in general, and it is partly the linux kernel where the issue is. |
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| 02:17.18 | pandas_best_frie | I did find an old messageboard post where someone wrote a custom Xorg conf that got a similar setup's HDMI working, that's about the only hope I've found. |
| 02:17.32 | somiaj | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers/Optimus might give some help, but I don't think reporting a bug to debian about your hdmi not working is going to get much response in debian for that hardware |
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| 02:18.11 | whatsabinki3 | recommendation: find a dedicated driver and tutorial made just for debian, and disable the weaker gpu unless it's used |
| 02:18.20 | whatsabinki3 | (in the bios) |
| 02:18.28 | maxcell_ | Hi again, sorry the ask but, when i plug my PS4 controller in the USB and open Steam, it says that i don't have any controller plugged in. But the track-pad of the ps4 controller works, the buttons doesn't. Thanks in advance |
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| 02:22.45 | annadane | that's probably more a steam question than a debian question |
| 02:22.52 | annadane | even if you're using steam on debian |
| 02:23.44 | maxcell_ | It works in other distros but, always with buttons placed wrong... |
| 02:24.16 | maxcell_ | Thanks anyway |
| 02:24.54 | whatsabinki3 | https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-game-controllers-running-linux/ |
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| 02:25.27 | whatsabinki3 | if you spam all the commands and get a virus I'll just change my nick |
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| 02:28.42 | whatsabinki3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:34.44 | ljc | switching from ubuntu server to debian -_- |
| 02:35.25 | whatsabinki3 | grats |
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| 02:38.14 | ljc | ty |
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| 02:40.36 | bb36e | What'd you not like about Ubuntu server (I haven't used it)? |
| 02:40.57 | pandas_best_frie | somiaj: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=197089 this guy got HDMI working on a similar setup by adding stuff to xorg.conf. Didn't work for me though (so far) |
| 02:42.52 | somiaj | you can keep trying, I personally ahve avoided such hardware due to its poor support in linux |
| 02:42.53 | ljc | there's too many packages for the default install |
| 02:43.07 | somiaj | ljc: what do you mean by that? What do you consider the default install? |
| 02:43.13 | somiaj | ljc: to me the default minimial install is quite sane. |
| 02:43.19 | ljc | and something called "cloud-init" is included now |
| 02:43.37 | somiaj | I have no package called cloud-init on my machine |
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| 02:44.02 | ljc | well i had to edit /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg to change the hostname |
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| 02:44.17 | somiaj | note by default the gnome desktop task is selected, I remove that, espically if you are making a server |
| 02:45.05 | maxcell_ | whatsabinki3, thx for the website, i did install xboxdrv but didn't work so i install joystick (apt install joystick) the jstest-gtk found the controller and all the buttons worked fine. He is using /dev/input/js0 but Steam didn't got it. So didn't work inside the game as well. (game launched through steam) |
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| 02:46.11 | somiaj | ljc: cloud-init seems to be helpful for using a cloud infrastructure, is this the situation you are in? |
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| 02:47.07 | bb36e | somiaj: did they update the server ISO? I remember hearing that the server install was text only |
| 02:47.31 | ljc | nah i'm not interested in any provisioning |
| 02:47.55 | ljc | bb36e: yea i think they did update the install. it's pretty nice except it doesn't recognise wireless cards |
| 02:48.15 | somiaj | ljc: then unsure what you installed, as I woudln't call that package default. |
| 02:48.21 | whatsabinki3 | maxcell, oh I hope you get it working |
| 02:48.56 | maxcell_ | whatsabinki3, so do i, just don't know how :) |
| 02:49.00 | somiaj | ljc: since wheezy debian has removed non-free blobs from the kernel, and almost all wifi devices require non-free firmware. There is an unoffical non-free installer that conatinst that firmware, but debian main offically only supports free software. |
| 02:49.12 | somiaj | bb36e: the graphical installer is now deafult, but the text based installer is still avaiable, and what I still use. |
| 02:49.22 | somiaj | I prefer the text based expert mode myself |
| 02:49.26 | bb36e | Ah, interestig |
| 02:49.36 | ljc | hm i'm not sure then. didn't seem like there was a package selection option |
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| 02:50.01 | somiaj | ljc: if you have aptitude installed you can run 'aptitude why clound-init' |
| 02:50.44 | somiaj | and I'm unsure either. At the end of the isntall (if using the netinstall) it gives you a list of tasks you can select, I personally unselect desktop and only select ssh server + standard tasks. And that gives a failry minimial setup. |
| 02:50.48 | somiaj | !standard |
| 02:50.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask me about <tasksel>. |
| 02:51.22 | somiaj | basically things in standard are software one would consider key to a fully functional linux enviorment, but still quite minmial in debian. |
| 02:51.31 | somiaj | most debian packages are optional |
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| 02:53.37 | somiaj | ljc: what install image did you use? |
| 02:53.51 | ljc | (sorry just having lunch :) ) |
| 02:53.56 | ljc | 1 sec |
| 02:54.18 | ljc | http://mirror.overthewire.com.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/18.04/ubuntu-18.04-live-server-amd64.iso |
| 02:54.30 | somiaj | I thought you said you installed debian, that is not debian. |
| 02:54.48 | somiaj | and ubuntu is not supported here, we don't know what sort of changes or defaults ubuntu uses. |
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| 02:56.58 | bb36e | I thought we were talking about why ljc switched away from ubuntu |
| 02:57.27 | somiaj | I thought that was the case too, but if that was the install image used, they installed ubuntu, not debian |
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| 02:58.53 | ljc | yep i installed that but now i'm installing debian |
| 02:59.19 | somiaj | so was cloud-init on your debian install or not? Or have you not yet installed debian? |
| 03:00.39 | ljc | nah i haven't installed debian yet, in the process of doing it now |
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| 03:00.59 | somiaj | you mentioned wireless, are you installing on a system with wireless (but this seems odd for a server) |
| 03:01.24 | somiaj | well at the end, I would unsleect dekstop enviorment, so you only install a standard system, then use apt to install the software you need on top of that |
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| 03:01.53 | Ouroboros | somiaj: how is the expert install mode different from the default text install mode? |
| 03:02.02 | ljc | nah it's just a home laptop, but i preferred the server version since it was more minimal |
| 03:02.27 | somiaj | Ouroboros: it gives you more options and lets you move through the options in different order. Mostly just gives more control, but over all not that different. |
| 03:02.49 | Ouroboros | oh well, too late now |
| 03:02.52 | somiaj | ljc: debian doens't have a server version, but in this case just don't install a desktop. And since using wireless you may want an unffocial install image |
| 03:02.59 | somiaj | !firmware images |
| 03:02.59 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
| 03:03.09 | somiaj | ljc: that netinstall image will give you access to wireless during the install |
| 03:03.09 | ljc | no worries :) |
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| 03:03.33 | ljc | i do have an ethernet link, so just using that to install debian since it's plugging in a cable is easier |
| 03:03.56 | somiaj | to get wirless working after the install you will need to enable contrib and non-free software, then install the appropriate firmware |
| 03:04.41 | ljc | ok |
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| 03:22.10 | user2231 | After updating Xorg and the nvidia binary driver to nvidia-390 startx quits saying it can't load the Nvidia kernel module: https://pastebin.com/Zg4SeqgQ |
| 03:22.33 | user2231 | nvidia-detect says 390 should be okay for my GTX 970 |
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| 03:34.20 | annadane | ,kernels |
| 03:34.21 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.16.0-rc6-686 (4.16~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 4.16.0-2-686 (4.16.16-1); buster: 4.16.0-2-686 (4.16.12-1); stretch-backports: 4.16.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.16.12-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-6-686-pae (3.16.56-1+deb8u1); wheezy-backports: |
| 03:34.22 | judd | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1) |
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| 03:34.57 | annadane | user2231, is that a compiled kernel? |
| 03:35.20 | annadane | it's not the one from backports |
| 03:35.56 | whatsabinki3 | how do I start an app in 32 bit mode from the command line? |
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| 03:40.56 | Tom-_ | whatsabinki3, i don't know, i've never thought about it |
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| 03:45.12 | llimeht | whatsabinki2: what are you actually trying to achieve? (this is not normally something that you can or should do) |
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| 03:48.10 | user2231 | annadane: I'm not sure, I just allow apt to install whatever over my previous nvidia-driver, this update I was left with a lack screen when launching Xorg |
| 03:48.21 | user2231 | black* |
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| 03:48.53 | annadane | well the debian archive won't just install a compiled kernel, it will either use the main 4.9 one in stable or the latest from backports |
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| 03:49.22 | puffs | Sup all |
| 03:49.25 | annadane | what even is linux draco? |
| 03:49.36 | victorsch | sup puffs |
| 03:49.41 | annadane | i don't know if that's what your problem is but it's a weird kernel and it could be causing problems |
| 03:50.03 | PuFFs | Anyone have a suggestion on a 2 n 1 laptop for debian? |
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| 03:50.17 | victorsch | as in one that also functions as a tablet? |
| 03:50.22 | PuFFs | I was looking to get a Dell 5285 |
| 03:50.23 | PuFFs | yes |
| 03:50.36 | victorsch | haven't heard good things about dells |
| 03:50.40 | victorsch | whats your budget though? |
| 03:50.47 | cjbayliss | PuFFs: https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/ |
| 03:51.04 | PuFFs | 700 |
| 03:51.38 | user2231 | annadane: the hostname of the machine |
| 03:51.40 | annadane | user2231, anyway, one place to look might be .xsession-errors |
| 03:51.46 | annadane | oh is it the hostname? i'm sorry then |
| 03:51.59 | annadane | i'm clearly reading things wrong |
| 03:53.55 | user2231 | annadane: $HOME/.xsession-errors is an empty file |
| 03:54.08 | PuFFs | cjbayliss: wow 1300 for that. |
| 03:54.38 | cjbayliss | PuFFs: eh, it supports 100% free software though I pretty sure |
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| 03:54.49 | annadane | anyway, i'm sure someone else will know, sorry to not be of help |
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| 04:18.10 | somiaj | PuFFs: Dell offers laptops built for linux and it will come installed with ubuntu, which means it will most likely work with debian too, if you want to get something that is known to work with linux. |
| 04:19.49 | PuFFs | somiaj: Thanks :) |
| 04:21.06 | somiaj | though there are lots of other laptop companies that make systems that run well on linux. I usually suggest pick a company/laptop you like and then check its hardware for compadiablity |
| 04:21.27 | somiaj | I was just pointing out that about Dell's, as it does take some of the research away and you know you are getting someting that works. Unsure fi they have 2-in-1's though |
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| 04:22.48 | somiaj | PuFFs: http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop_us -- not suggesting this, outside they do come certified with ubuntu or rhel linux (for whatever that is worth to you) |
| 04:23.21 | somiaj | I personally only use dell's cause my work buys them for me, and that is who they contract with. For personal computers, I find one I like, and then research the hardware before making a decision |
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| 04:30.47 | PuFFs | yeah, i would really like to get one with LTE |
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| 04:33.59 | PuFFs | I was looking for something similar to https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/windows-tablets/thinkpad-tablet-series/c/thinkpad-series |
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| 04:40.51 | somiaj | lenovo usually works well in linux. For that paticular laptop google suggest it mostly works, but someone has trouble with the trackball, maybe an extrnal mouse will help, but they seem to say other thigns work fine |
| 04:40.59 | somiaj | I'm unsure how well touch screens work in lniux as I don't use them |
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| 04:43.22 | maxcell_ | hi, i'm using this udev rule and it isn't working on Debian. https://github.com/chrippa/ds4drv/blob/master/udev/50-ds4drv.rules |
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| 04:47.03 | PuFFs | I use Kali on a thumb drive on my gf 7275 Dell and the touch screen wasn't bad. |
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| 04:47.51 | somiaj | provided your laptop isn't new (I would make sure to buy one that has about 1-2 year old hardware) and you do research on it, I think you'll find you can get something nice that will run debian. |
| 04:48.01 | somiaj | also avoid nvidia if you don't like non-free drivers |
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| 04:50.08 | maxcell_ | my debian is nice, only thing i need to address for now is the udev rule for the controller that aren't working |
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| 04:50.20 | maxcell_ | and i'm using nvidia :) |
| 04:50.49 | maxcell_ | manage to make it work flawlessly without a single tearing when it matters (videos, youtube, etc) |
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| 20:25.25 | Ultima | abramov: This sounds like it maybe the issue. I have tested this in unprivileged mode and privileged, but I'm not sure if the container can modify /proc at all. |
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| 20:53.32 | Henry151 | Hi guys, I'm trying to follow the directions here https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/INSTALL.md to install bcc-tools in debian, but when I run "debuild -b -uc -us" it hangs before completion and doesn't give me a .deb file. This is the output of the debuild command: http://termbin.com/yxvr any help figuring out what i'm doing wrong much appreciated. |
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| 21:00.35 | abrotman | Henry151: bcc seems to already be in debian |
| 21:00.48 | abrotman | judd: versions bcc |
| 21:00.49 | judd | Package: bcc on amd64 -- jessie: 0.16.17-3.1; wheezy: 0.16.17-3.1; stretch: 0.16.17-3.2; buster: 0.16.17-3.3; sid: 0.16.17-3.3 |
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| 21:02.10 | frazr | any germans in the chat? dont trust these ping test sites, would like to check response tiem on my test-webpage |
| 21:02.10 | Henry151 | abrotman: that's a different program |
| 21:02.23 | Henry151 | same name |
| 21:02.35 | abrotman | well, that's confusing :) |
| 21:02.44 | abrotman | dpkg: de |
| 21:02.45 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 21:02.52 | frazr | ah, thanks |
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| 21:03.44 | abrotman | Henry151: your paste may have been truncated? I see it running some tests? |
| 21:04.13 | Henry151 | abrotman: that's where it hangs -- it just sits there, I left it for as long as an hour, it doesn't continue |
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| 21:04.34 | abrotman | ctrl-c and trying again does the same? |
| 21:04.39 | Henry151 | have to interrupt it by killing the debuild process, a keyboard interrupt doesn't work |
| 21:04.49 | Henry151 | yeah i've tried it a few times now |
| 21:05.10 | abrotman | strace doesn't reveal anything? |
| 21:05.15 | Henry151 | ctrl-c does nothing, but if i run killall debuild in another terminal, and then try again, it still hangs in the same spot |
| 21:05.32 | Henry151 | abrotman: now that might be the next step -- i don't know how to use strace, never tried |
| 21:05.46 | abrotman | it has a man page :) .. bu tit's going to be insanely noisy |
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| 21:06.32 | Henry151 | i'd love to know how to get a stacktrace of it, even just to show to people who are trying to help me :) I'll go look at the manpage. |
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| 21:15.04 | Ouroboros | Henry151: the last thing in strace should be the thing :P |
| 21:15.23 | Ouroboros | but yeah, the output will be huge |
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| 21:18.56 | hisforever | I'm new to debian system How do I set time in tool bar to 12 hour? |
| 21:19.48 | annadane | which tool bar? |
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| 21:20.19 | annadane | most clocks will allow you to right click them and adjust the time that way |
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| 21:26.23 | hisforever | I'm running tumblweed and I can't get blender to insta;; wounder why? |
| 21:27.38 | hisforever | Thanks annadane |
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| 21:28.41 | grobi | o/ hello |
| 21:28.59 | hisforever | will blender run on Debian sys? |
| 21:29.11 | LtL | hisforever: yes |
| 21:29.15 | hisforever | hi hroot |
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| 21:30.16 | hisforever | ltl: I can't seen to get blender to install |
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| 21:32.17 | hisforever | om Manjaro kde it installs fine but in tumbelweed It gives be error |
| 21:32.42 | hisforever | on =om |
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| 21:34.39 | LtL | hisforever: you could try, aptitude why-not blender |
| 21:35.16 | jim | grobi, you've already got something running on that port of localhost |
| 21:35.43 | hisforever | LtL is aptitude like blender? |
| 21:36.23 | hisforever | I'm really new to Debian |
| 21:36.41 | mtn | hisforever: why are you asking about suse problem in a debian channel? |
| 21:37.03 | jim | grobi, so you already have something called mpd running on that port |
| 21:37.05 | LtL | hisforever: no, its a package manager |
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| 21:38.00 | jim | hisforever, I dunno what blender is... but apt/aptitude/apt-get lets you install packages on your debian |
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| 21:38.31 | hisforever | because I'm running tumbleweed as a Debian |
| 21:38.40 | grobi | jim i just learned that ss -tulpn | grep 6600 tcp shows what |
| 21:38.51 | mtn | hisforever: you mean you are running suse in a virtual machine? |
| 21:39.00 | hisforever | i'll leave if this is wrong channel |
| 21:39.15 | mtn | hisforever: if you are asking for help with suse, this is the wrong channel |
| 21:39.20 | hisforever | no installd sys |
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| 21:40.01 | hisforever | ok thanks for help I'll leave |
| 21:40.36 | grobi | mpd --version is Music Player Daemon 0.19.21 |
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| 21:41.28 | grobi | i already had conversation with #mpd channel |
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| 21:46.01 | grobi | so md.conf is loaded... |
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| 22:34.29 | ryouma | when i boot, i get a few colored warnings before the login prompt. dmesg does not seem to show these. i did install bootlogd, but i do not seem to find its logs anyplace in /var/log. do i have to configure bootlogd? |
| 22:37.40 | ryouma | alternatively, can i have it pause befoer the login prompt so i can scroll back? |
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| 22:41.29 | aaro | what about /var/log/boot.log? |
| 22:41.49 | annadane | the colored messages are probably service messages, check systemctl list --failed |
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| 22:42.02 | annadane | er |
| 22:42.32 | annadane | whatever the command is |
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| 22:42.52 | ryouma | aaro: there is no such file. there is a boot file but mtime is 3y ago. |
| 22:43.34 | ryouma | annadane: "~# "Unknown operation 'list'." |
| 22:43.44 | ryouma | annadane: "Unknown operation 'list'." |
| 22:43.58 | annadane | yeah i forget what the command is |
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| 22:46.03 | ryouma | not finding anything that speaks to me in the man page |
| 22:46.09 | ryouma | then again i don't speak that language |
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| 22:46.39 | ryouma | there is list-jobs |
| 22:47.14 | LtL | ryouma: try 'systemctl list-unit-files' |
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| 22:49.04 | ryouma | LtL: big list of enabled disabled static masked |
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| 22:50.18 | LtL | ryouma: if anything failed, that would likely be listed as failed. |
| 22:51.24 | ryouma | nothing says failed |
| 22:51.35 | ryouma | i guess bootlogd is broken in jessie now? i think it used to work. |
| 22:54.57 | ryouma | well thanks. i have to reboot again. i will hope it wasn't anything worth paying attention to. have been trying turning off drives to see if drives still work. |
| 22:55.01 | ryouma | in bios |
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| 22:57.39 | morgana_ | hey guys, just a simple question which is driving me crazy... I have installed a program called Ktouch for teach typing to my girlfriend. But this program launches with just the english course and keyboard layout, turns out that I have to change the kde app languages to portuguese brazilian to use it, but how can I do that using gnome? |
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| 23:09.32 | LtL | morgana_: suggested program for ktouch is khelpcenter. maybe that will help |
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| 23:19.36 | has3knivesinpant | 18:17 has3knivesinpant: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p976oha14065osw/mMy-white-2015-VW-Golf-TDI-and-Napleton-Motor-Werks-where-I-bought-it.JPG |
| 23:19.53 | has3knivesinpant | It runs Debian 8. |
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