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| 00:04.37 | bites | ftp.xx.debian.org are primary mirrors for certain regions. ftp.us are a bunch or mirrors load balanced by dns round-robin i think. deb.debian.org picks the right cdn wherever you are. |
| 00:05.38 | ryouma | so if you are in xx, then you can skip the cdn picking step? |
| 00:05.58 | ryouma | i guess theyw ouldn't make much difference to our hyopthetical mitm questions |
| 00:07.46 | bites | both freeze attack and replay attack are the same mechanism. |
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| 00:11.35 | zimb | How a replay attack works on the network level, I just saw the impklications for bitcoin |
| 00:11.42 | ryouma | so ftp.xx are cdn? idk waht a cdn is, except "something corporations use to load balance or something" |
| 00:13.02 | bites | it's a dns round-robin. the dns points to different ips in a loop, to load balance. |
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| 00:14.18 | ryouma | so probably the mirroring operation uses a script that checks each of the ips for recency, i'm guessing? |
| 00:14.18 | zimb | CDN - Content Delivery Netwok. It is a cache on speedy servers in your area/country, near you. |
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| 00:17.47 | bites | the mirrors behind ftp.us.debian.org are primary mirrors, they are push-triggered. normal mirrors run a cronjob that rsyncs every few hours. |
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| 00:21.26 | ryouma | push means faster? |
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| 00:31.34 | squarecircle | heyo |
| 00:32.18 | squarecircle | where should I start looking if my libvirt/kvm vm pauses right after booting |
| 00:32.19 | squarecircle | ? |
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| 00:34.29 | squarecircle | hm |
| 00:34.35 | squarecircle | theres no space left on devive |
| 00:34.39 | squarecircle | *device |
| 00:34.40 | squarecircle | hm |
| 00:34.45 | squarecircle | that may be a problem |
| 00:34.57 | rant | s/may// |
| 00:35.12 | tonymke | lol. that may cause some issues |
| 00:35.24 | rant | s/may//g |
| 00:36.07 | squarecircle | 6G avail |
| 00:36.08 | squarecircle | hm |
| 00:36.17 | squarecircle | 2.5TB vm image |
| 00:36.20 | rant | or s/may/will/g if you care about grammar :P |
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| 00:36.53 | squarecircle | that /may/ be the root of my problems |
| 00:37.06 | squarecircle | (the raid is sized some 2.7TB |
| 00:37.09 | squarecircle | ) |
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| 00:39.07 | squarecircle | hm the vm tells me: /dev/mapper/vda2_crypt 2.6T 1.8T 681G 74% / |
| 00:39.11 | squarecircle | :/ |
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| 00:42.06 | rant | a fat kangaroo? |
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| 00:56.33 | RoadRunner | Trying to configure pidgin 2.13.0 for voice under xubuntu 16.04. Pulse Audio detects webcam and is showing sound reception from its mic but pidgin's mic test is not showing a changing sound level. Changing Pidgin's audio output and input plugins to Pulse Audio doesn't make any difference. Device selection just showing one option "default" - not detecting specific devices? |
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| 00:59.09 | oxDebugged | Hey guys how can i figure out what video card i have exactly instaleld so i get the latest drivers for my Debian system |
| 00:59.20 | oxDebugged | i am running alittle bit the outdated system fo Debian Jessie but i want to get my Nvidina driver to work |
| 01:01.16 | rant | oxDebugged: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 01:01.40 | rant | RoadRunner: this is #debian we only support Debian stable here, not xubuntu |
| 01:02.18 | oxDebugged | @rant: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1) |
| 01:02.30 | rant | RoadRunner: try #pidgin, might be the best place for your issue |
| 01:02.35 | oxDebugged | what driver would i get in order to change my resoultuion properly, becasue its just like a rectangle. |
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| 01:04.12 | RoadRunner | rant: I did, unfortunately that channel isn't as active as I would like, and although I realize this is not a xubuntu channel, our os's are very similar, so someone under debian could have ran into the same issue |
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| 01:05.32 | rant | good luck with that |
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| 01:05.40 | eliotime | RoadRunner: Ubuntu and Debian uses different ways to manage the packages. So, if you're requesting some specific bugs in Ubuntu and derivates, this chat is not for you. |
| 01:06.00 | oxDebugged | rant, : this is my video card specifically..https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Graphics-Cards/STRIX-GTX950-DC2OC-2GD5-GAMING/ |
| 01:06.06 | oxDebugged | how would i go about getting the proper drivers for it |
| 01:06.12 | oxDebugged | but its a Nvidea |
| 01:06.17 | oxDebugged | or how ever u spell it lmao |
| 01:07.36 | __m4ch1n3__ | RoadRunner, ubuntu has a hw driver manager |
| 01:07.42 | rant | oxDebugged: well I'd start with figuring out what you're using now. lsmod | grep 'nv\|noveau\|nvidia' | awk '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ' ' (paste safe one line output) |
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| 01:08.45 | RoadRunner | __m4ch1n3__: hw driver manager? what is the significance of this? |
| 01:08.52 | __m4ch1n3__ | jockey-gtk |
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| 01:11.08 | __m4ch1n3__ | it installs non-free nvidia ot ati drivers |
| 01:11.14 | __m4ch1n3__ | *or |
| 01:11.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | and configures X to use them |
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| 01:12.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | first it detects your hw |
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| 01:16.50 | __m4ch1n3__ | guess installing nvidia drivers manualy with apt wont configure everything like in debian, e.g blacklisting free nouveau nv driver |
| 01:17.36 | rant | I hadn't used nvidia in so long I wasnt suure if it did that.. which is why I was advising oxDebugged to check first |
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| 01:23.25 | ryouma | 18:07 <rant> oxDebugged: well I'd start with figuring out what you're using now. lsmod | grep 'nv\|noveau\|nvidia' | awk '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ' ' (paste safe one line output) -- is the spelling correct? |
| 01:24.13 | ryouma | Nouveau |
| 01:24.15 | ryouma | ? |
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| 01:24.28 | annadane | nouveau |
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| 01:31.01 | __m4ch1n3__ | would recommend install and "activate" drivers with jockey-gtk on ubuntu |
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| 01:33.18 | __m4ch1n3__ | ubuntu seems to lack configs in some packages |
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| 01:37.39 | nezZario | lol what? can someone help me verify I'm not insane? the 'iptraf' package doesn't install the binary for the app. it just installs the documentation. what? |
| 01:38.00 | __m4ch1n3__ | tor-arm same on buster :) |
| 01:38.24 | nezZario | dpkg-query -L iptraf only shows a changelong / debianchangelong / copyright in /usr/share/doc/iptraf |
| 01:38.56 | __m4ch1n3__ | stable or testing? |
| 01:39.49 | nezZario | OOH this server is on unstable! I didn't even know. |
| 01:39.59 | annadane | uh... |
| 01:40.06 | annadane | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:40.27 | annadane | apt show iptraf |
| 01:40.36 | nezZario | yeah - it's got deb http://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free |
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| 01:40.59 | annadane | D: |
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| 01:41.22 | nezZario | stable is same, though |
| 01:41.32 | avis | i think there is something like whereis you can usually do sudo updatedb and sudo locate for something similar to that |
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| 01:42.04 | annadane | try iptraf-ng...? |
| 01:42.29 | annadane | actually that's not helpful |
| 01:42.48 | avis | make you can get a visual tree of a installed package install components, in case a config isn't auto-run |
| 01:43.10 | avis | sudo apt-cache search <description of package> |
| 01:43.58 | __m4ch1n3__ | oh tor-arm was replaced by nyx |
| 01:44.03 | avis | i remember being able to compile packages based on the architecture too, on something debian like, and not hurd |
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| 01:45.37 | avis | sudo apt-get purge <package> removes the installed package and the saved debian package for it |
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| 01:47.09 | avis | the auto debian per architechture install thing is apt-<something> <maybesomething> <anditworks> -- i don't remember what it was |
| 01:47.42 | avis | bluray made me happy. i thought i could have a complete set, and not have to worry about upgrades, and false swaps. |
| 01:48.05 | avis | people alluded to more than something other than debian os |
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| 02:03.24 | rant | heh |
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| 02:04.49 | rant | you can buy sets already made pretty cheap but as for gettin em all on one media, you need more than optical discs these days to contain it.. the amd64 arch alone is almost 300G |
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| 02:09.27 | plasm0duck | How do I stop my system showing the uname -a type system info when I ssh in? |
| 02:10.17 | plasm0duck | Like after I enter the password for ssh, it shows the Linux hostname kernel version architecture info |
| 02:13.03 | tonymke | plasm0duck: I think you're referring to the SSH MOTD set on the host? If so, check out this guy https://askubuntu.com/questions/676374/how-to-disable-welcome-message-after-ssh-login/676381#676381 |
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| 02:53.37 | plasmoduck | thanks tonymke |
| 02:54.44 | Frogmorton | Can I scan for nearby wifi device signal strength, or detect if a device is on/off without having it connected? |
| 02:55.04 | Frogmorton | q |
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| 02:56.36 | somiaj | Frogmorton: yes, there are differnt tools to do that |
| 02:56.53 | somiaj | well you can scan for aps that are broadcasting |
| 02:57.02 | tonymke | "nmcli dev wifi" shows signal strength |
| 02:57.04 | tonymke | If that helps |
| 02:57.48 | somiaj | there is iwlist scan, and I wonder if iw can do it directly |
| 02:57.53 | somiaj | wpa_supplicant can also do that |
| 02:58.11 | somiaj | but if using the network-manager gui, I'm sure it is there too, as I said lots of tools |
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| 02:59.44 | Frogmorton | I want to post a timestamp to a database whenever the wifi device starts up or stops. Have scripts in ifup and ifdown which record when an interface changes state, but the external wifi going up/down does not trigger those |
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| 03:04.03 | toruvinn | Frogmorton, what's "external" wifi? |
| 03:04.37 | Frogmorton | Its a wifi router than my system may or may not be connected to |
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| 03:05.29 | Frogmorton | qq |
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| 03:05.37 | toruvinn | ok so it's not a device on your system. yeah you wlan0 won't go down just because it loses connectivity, i believe. |
| 03:05.45 | toruvinn | s/you wl/your wl/ |
| 03:06.08 | toruvinn | might be hard to detect "down" like this. |
| 03:06.19 | toruvinn | "up" could be easy-ish, though. if you're using DHCP and you're probably using DHCP |
| 03:06.30 | toruvinn | you could modify the dhcp script so that it writes your "up" event to wherever. |
| 03:07.16 | toruvinn | question is, are really short losses of connectivity (a one second lag, for example) considered "down/up" by you? because this wont probably timeout and trigger your wifi to reassociate/re-get ip address |
| 03:07.22 | toruvinn | oh btw careful with dhcp renewals ;-) |
| 03:08.25 | Frogmorton | Thats why I thought maybe don't try to connect, just poll every few minutues to see if the device is there. Just want to know it's power state really. |
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| 03:08.36 | toruvinn | umm |
| 03:08.58 | toruvinn | im getting a bit confused here again. you want to know whether your access point is powered or not? |
| 03:10.00 | Frogmorton | Yes, it's not my PCs access point. I want to log in a database when it is up or down. I'm trying to monitor a power circuit external to my PC |
| 03:10.49 | toruvinn | this is going to be difficult, because nonresponsive access point doesn't mean it's not powered up. it might as well just be frozen (firmware bug) |
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| 03:11.00 | Frogmorton | It's an interesting exercise which is hard to phrase a good search term for : ) |
| 03:11.33 | toruvinn | Frogmorton, but since it's 1 hop away from you, i'd say that just pinging it repeatedly until it fails 2-3 times in a row should be enough. |
| 03:11.35 | Frogmorton | nmcli dev wifi doesn't see any of the wifi devices here. have to try something else |
| 03:12.02 | toruvinn | Frogmorton, or you could actually perform wifi searches (wpa_cli's search) and see if your AP is there |
| 03:12.08 | toruvinn | if it's there, it's there. ;-) |
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| 03:12.19 | toruvinn | perform those searches often enough and you have some good data on that |
| 03:12.36 | toruvinn | s/search/scan/ |
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| 03:13.13 | toruvinn | oh, i now realized you probably meant this by "not trying to connect" |
| 03:13.16 | toruvinn | yeah that would be a decent way |
| 03:13.47 | Frogmorton | That could be what I need. I have a network widget thing on the desktop which shows signal strengths of several nearby devices, so whatever tool it uses will be good |
| 03:14.33 | toruvinn | it's entirely likely you're using wpasupplicant |
| 03:14.50 | toruvinn | try `pidof wpa_supplicant` |
| 03:15.23 | toruvinn | if it's there, it's probably that. then, you could run wpa_cli |
| 03:15.32 | toruvinn | run "scan" in there, wait for results, run "scan_results" |
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| 03:15.40 | toruvinn | it tells you signal strenghts too. |
| 03:16.30 | Frogmorton | Says it could not connect to wpa_supplicant |
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| 03:16.53 | toruvinn | oh well i guess you're not using wpa_supplicant then to manage your wifi ;-) |
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| 03:17.40 | Frogmorton | Oh, had it switched off |
| 03:17.54 | toruvinn | well you probably shouldnt be using it if you're using something else already |
| 03:18.10 | __m4ch1n3__ | missing mixxx package in buster :( |
| 03:18.35 | annadane | dpkg, why isn't mixxx in testing |
| 03:18.35 | dpkg | mixxx is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mixxx |
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| 03:18.55 | Frogmorton | I can drop the other connection method. Just need to get something into a bash script now |
| 03:18.58 | annadane | judd, bug #896457 |
| 03:18.59 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/896457 in src:mixxx (forwarded, ftbfs): «mixxx FTBFS with Qt 5.10»; severity: serious; opened: 2018-04-21; last modified: 2018-06-22. |
| 03:19.08 | annadane | __m4ch1n3__, ^ |
| 03:19.51 | annadane | this is partially why i run unstable and not testing |
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| 03:25.32 | toruvinn | Frogmorton, i was under the impression that wpa_cli is pretty scriptable, so it'd be nice. |
| 03:26.11 | Frogmorton | Thanks, sounds like wpa_cli is what I need to research. Just needed to find the right thing to search on : ) |
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| 03:27.10 | poprocks | constexpr? C++ is weird. :P |
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| 03:32.51 | michael2 | !test |
| 03:32.52 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 03:35.21 | toruvinn | Frogmorton, you just need wpa_cli scan then scan_results but im not entirely sure how to catch that "results are ready" event from commandline. when you run wpa_cli alone and use its input it's quite obvious how this works. |
| 03:35.58 | toruvinn | Frogmorton, there is -a which is supposed to run something passing "events" to it, but im not sure if they pass SCAN_RESULTS too |
| 03:36.19 | toruvinn | it only mentions CONNECTED/DISCONNECTED in the man page.. |
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| 03:36.42 | michael2 | nmcli can be scripted for wifi stuff too |
| 03:37.04 | toruvinn | mhm, i dont know this one, might be worth looking into. it may be the one you're already using, too. ;-) |
| 03:37.29 | Frogmorton | Yes, now that I have wpa_supplicant doing auto-connect, nmcli is showing connection details |
| 03:37.32 | michael2 | it has options for managing color, "machine" output formating, and automatic character escaping |
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| 04:35.05 | __m4ch1n3__ | is there a way to set 'QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0' systemwide for all desktop applications? |
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| 04:40.48 | nezZario | Set it in your ~/.bashrc ? .... THat'll work for terminal-launched apps. I don't know how that works for WM's though. |
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| 04:41.20 | __m4ch1n3__ | guis which use qt auto scale are either giant one button or menue entry over entire screen or gui wont start at all |
| 04:41.37 | __m4ch1n3__ | have 1080p res |
| 04:42.53 | __m4ch1n3__ | atm im editing /usr/shar/applications/*.desktop files and adding QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0 |
| 04:43.04 | __m4ch1n3__ | *share |
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| 04:46.42 | mroh | systemwide, for all users: /etc/environment, or you could use a script in /etc/X11 or etc,ppp, lots of possibilities... |
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| 04:48.45 | __m4ch1n3__ | looks like the """auto"""scale assumes uhd resolution independent from screenres :) |
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| 04:51.05 | __m4ch1n3__ | echo -e '\nexport QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0' >> /etc/environment ? |
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| 04:52.59 | __m4ch1n3__ | or |
| 04:53.06 | __m4ch1n3__ | echo -e '\nQT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0' >> /etc/environment ? |
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| 05:51.23 | oxDebugged | Hey guys question (https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Graphics-Cards/STRIX-GTX950-DC2OC-2GD5-GAMING/) is my video card inside my computer right now, i am running Debian Jessie 8 I think, How do i go about installing or obtaining the prper drivers i need |
| 05:51.32 | oxDebugged | if u could help me i would really appreciate it. |
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| 05:54.38 | jak2000 | how to check wich the space available on my harddisk |
| 05:54.42 | jak2000 | not see other partitions... |
| 05:54.53 | somiaj | df -h |
| 05:55.13 | jak2000 | yes i know |
| 05:55.19 | jak2000 | but i have other partitions |
| 05:55.24 | jak2000 | and not mounted |
| 05:57.07 | Tegu | well, I think fdisk -l can show the size but I'm not sure about the available space.. |
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| 06:03.42 | jak2000 | Tegu: https://paste.debian.net/1031400/ strange fdisk -l |
| 06:03.43 | jak2000 | result |
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| 08:20.58 | cluelessperson | I cannot umount a device |
| 08:21.00 | cluelessperson | it says it's busy |
| 08:21.08 | kirk781 | what device? |
| 08:21.09 | cluelessperson | but lsof and fuser show that nothing's accessing it |
| 08:21.10 | cluelessperson | it's lying |
| 08:21.13 | cluelessperson | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.08 | well_laid_lawn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.19 | cluelessperson | on a debian server? |
| 08:23.20 | well_laid_lawn | something is - umount doesn't lie |
| 08:23.39 | cluelessperson | ps aux | grep loop0 nothing |
| 08:23.43 | cluelessperson | lsof | grep loop0 nothing |
| 08:23.48 | cluelessperson | fuser loop0 nothing |
| 08:23.55 | cluelessperson | same all three for the mount directory |
| 08:23.58 | cluelessperson | nothing is using it |
| 08:23.59 | well_laid_lawn | what's the mount point ? |
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| 08:24.14 | cluelessperson | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.09 | well_laid_lawn | indexing doesn't open files |
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| 08:26.27 | cluelessperson | so, what's indexing without being told to? |
| 08:26.30 | cluelessperson | on a ro file system? |
| 08:27.26 | well_laid_lawn | I don't know what ou have on the system - and that was just a clue |
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| 08:27.45 | well_laid_lawn | umount doesn't lie |
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| 08:28.30 | cluelessperson | well_laid_lawn: and yet it continues to |
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| 08:31.42 | cluelessperson | well, it finally umounted, for apparently no reason |
| 08:32.06 | cluelessperson | but now losetup won't detach a loop device |
| 08:32.30 | cluelessperson | and then it worked lel |
| 08:32.33 | cluelessperson | thanks though. hm |
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| 09:35.41 | oxDebugged | hey guys i am trying to install drivers for nvida , nvidia-detect |
| 09:35.41 | oxDebugged | Detected NVIDIA GPUs: |
| 09:35.41 | oxDebugged | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1) |
| 09:35.41 | oxDebugged | Your card is only supported by a newer driver that is available in jessie-backports. |
| 09:35.42 | oxDebugged | See https://backports.debian.org for instructions how to use backports. |
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| 09:35.59 | oxDebugged | how do i do that after i added it to my sources? |
| 09:36.12 | oxDebugged | im here https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 09:38.55 | user1_fn | I connected to a server with "ssh -R 612345:localhost:612345 user@host.tld". "netstat -tulpen" on the server side shows me that there is LISTENd to this port. On the client side I execute "while ( true ) ; do nc -l 612345 ; done", and then on the client side "date | nc localhost 612345". The last command fails with "connect_to localhost port 612345: failed." Any suggestions? |
| 09:39.19 | user1_fn | sorry, a typo ... |
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| 09:39.32 | user1_fn | I connected to a server with "ssh -R 612345:localhost:612345 user@host.tld". "netstat -tulpen" on the server side shows me that there is LISTENd to this port. On the client side I execute "while ( true ) ; do nc -l 612345 ; done", and then on the server side "date | nc localhost 612345". The last command fails with "connect_to localhost port 612345: failed." Any suggestions? |
| 09:39.36 | Pusteblume | !sources.list |
| 09:39.36 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 09:41.41 | user1_fn | (Background: I would like to get some text from the stdout of a program on the server side to the stdin of a program on the client side) |
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| 09:42.42 | NeedHelpHuh | Hey guys im trying to get my driver working for my computer to change resolution because right now its just enjoymable with my gaming video card. |
| 09:42.44 | NeedHelpHuh | Detected NVIDIA GPUs:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1402] (rev a1)Your card is only supported by a newer driver that is available in jessie-backports.See https://backports.debian.org for instructions how to use backports.You may also find newer driver packages in experimental.It is recommended to install thenvidia-driver/jessie-backports |
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| 09:43.17 | NeedHelpHuh | i put the backports in sources and installed the program using apt-get -t jessie-backports install "nvidia-driver" |
| 09:43.27 | NeedHelpHuh | i thought i followed it and restarted the computer, but still it does not find it. |
| 09:43.29 | NeedHelpHuh | and gives me the same message. |
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| 09:43.57 | p0g0_ | user1_fn: sshfs & echo to a file? |
| 09:45.19 | p0g0_ | that is, use sshfs to link the two file systems, then echo the result you want from box 1 and write it to box 2. |
| 09:46.50 | user1_fn | s/612345/61234/g |
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| 09:48.31 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: what message? Also, any reason you're having a desktop still on Jessie? |
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| 09:49.15 | NeedHelpHuh | blackflow, hgonestly needed to format quickly and found that only CD lying around didnt really think twice |
| 09:49.41 | NeedHelpHuh | i just want to get my video card working and then ill prob upgrade shorlty once i backup my home folder. |
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| 09:50.17 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: which gpu is that? |
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| 09:54.47 | NeedHelpHuh | https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-STRIX-Pci-Graphics-Card/dp/B0142H5R7M |
| 09:54.49 | NeedHelpHuh | blackflow, |
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| 09:55.14 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: so, GTX 950 :) |
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| 09:55.33 | NeedHelpHuh | blackflow, https://paste.debian.net/1031425/ |
| 09:55.42 | NeedHelpHuh | ya ya so what i did was kinda following instructions of that paste |
| 09:56.04 | NeedHelpHuh | i did apt-get -t jessie-backports install "nvidia-driver" |
| 09:56.59 | blackflow | well... I have GTX 960. the 384 driver worked fine, 390 and 396 too. Could be that <384 doesn't support it, but 384 should. |
| 09:57.19 | s8548a_ | Sri_Designer rant: yesterday's network issue is solved by adding 2 network adaptors for the VM |
| 09:57.20 | blackflow | anyway, if even with backports the driver doesn't recognize the card, not sure what you can do but upgrade to stretch |
| 09:57.21 | NeedHelpHuh | so what should i do what do you recommend my professor? |
| 09:57.33 | NeedHelpHuh | okay |
| 09:57.39 | NeedHelpHuh | ]like my whole OS or add it in the sources/ and try that? |
| 09:58.32 | s8548a_ | one is configured as NAT for internet access, and the 2nd is configured as host only adaptor. |
| 09:58.38 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: if you know what you're doing, you could try install it from stretch repos, wiht some careful pinning, just for a test. it's dkms, and should really require only kernel headers. |
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| 09:59.24 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: then again, I don't know if newer nvidias require some minimum kernel version, so taht could be a problem too. |
| 09:59.47 | NeedHelpHuh | hmm could you perhaps help me find a guide so idont bug you because i really am confused when you say its dkms |
| 09:59.57 | NeedHelpHuh | i am debaitng i guess then just updating and downloading strech iso |
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| 10:02.49 | NeedHelpHuh | but if you find a way i can do this like get the driver working on jessie please let me know as i really want to get it working or at least try |
| 10:03.20 | jelly | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 10:03.21 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 304.131-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.102-1~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.106-1; stretch/non-free: 375.82-1~deb9u1; jessie-backports/non-free: 384.130-1~bpo8+1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 384.130-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 390.48-2~bpo9+3; buster/non-free: 390.48-3; sid/non-free: 390.67-1 |
| 10:03.55 | NeedHelpHuh | so try installing nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
| 10:04.07 | jelly | blackflow: please don't tell people to add repos from a newer release. |
| 10:04.28 | jelly | !nvidia dkms |
| 10:04.28 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 10:04.35 | jelly | NeedHelpHuh: do something like that & |
| 10:04.40 | jelly | ^ |
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| 10:05.48 | NeedHelpHuh | okay im so lost though so i need to install aptitutde? |
| 10:06.02 | jelly | if you're missing it, yeah |
| 10:06.22 | NeedHelpHuh | ok ok wait i have that nvm okay so what exactly ould i do? |
| 10:06.26 | NeedHelpHuh | just copy and paste that? |
| 10:06.36 | NeedHelpHuh | or i have to do more research in my specifics? |
| 10:06.51 | jelly | the whole command inside « », adapted to your jessie-backports needs |
| 10:07.21 | NeedHelpHuh | in what sense? sorry im kinda new man to linux |
| 10:07.24 | NeedHelpHuh | like as you can tell |
| 10:07.45 | jelly | so something like aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 10:08.05 | jelly | oops, forgot -r on the second aptitude invocation as well |
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| 10:11.25 | NeedHelpHuh | aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -r jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 10:11.28 | NeedHelpHuh | like that? |
| 10:12.17 | jelly | aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -r -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 10:12.31 | NeedHelpHuh | okay ty let me try this. |
| 10:12.35 | NeedHelpHuh | *crosses fingers* |
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| 10:14.10 | NeedHelpHuh | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/1031428/ |
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| 10:21.10 | NeedHelpHuh | wait updated sources let me try again |
| 10:21.41 | NeedHelpHuh | aptitude -r install linux-headers-amd64; aptitude -r -t jessie-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.confNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking |
| 10:21.41 | NeedHelpHuh | 0 B will be used.No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 146 not upgraded.Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. |
| 10:21.42 | NeedHelpHuh | jelly. |
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| 10:27.09 | NeedHelpHuh | if i upgrade to strech do i think i will solve this problem? |
| 10:27.22 | NeedHelpHuh | like if redownload debian and install the new version? |
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| 10:51.49 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: you should be able to upgrade from Jessie to Stretch without needing to reinstall from scratch. |
| 10:53.40 | NeedHelpHuh | how would i do that? Just download iso and put i into computer? |
| 10:53.55 | NeedHelpHuh | or how would i go about doinmg that blackflow ? |
| 10:54.36 | NeedHelpHuh | im just used to a much crisp display lmao |
| 10:54.44 | NeedHelpHuh | after years of having drivers porperly installed.. :( |
| 10:55.23 | blackflow | NeedHelpHuh: for example: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-8-jessie-to-debian-9-stretch |
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| 11:50.58 | NeedHelpHuh | blackflow, https://paste.debian.net/1031434/ |
| 11:51.05 | NeedHelpHuh | im having this problem following that guide |
| 11:52.16 | NeedHelpHuh | spelling error one second lmafo |
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| 11:57.08 | NeedHelpHuh | well here goes nothing i just really hope this fucking driver starts working after this upgrade although i ahve a feeling i ahve alot more work 2 do |
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| 12:06.49 | m712 | hi, since i installed debian sid on my pc a few weeks back, my computer will always hang for 30s at boot then just say "Gave up waiting for suspend/resume device" and boot normally. I set the /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to the correct UUID, even re-formatted my swap and re-adjusted the UUID, then built my initramfs using that but still the same error. how can i get rid of this? |
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| 12:07.09 | dvs | !debian-next |
| 12:07.09 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 12:07.33 | m712 | okay, thanks, i'll check it out. |
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| 12:18.11 | __m4ch1n3__ | is it possible to move i915(intel gpu) module to initrd and load it earlier? |
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| 12:21.28 | RoyK | I'd guess it's probably in the initrd already |
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| 12:33.45 | __m4ch1n3__ | hmm seems it is loaded short before lightdm and X is launched, would like to load i915 as early as possible and add a initrd hook for intel_panel_fitter to fix underscan on display/hdmi-tv |
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| 12:40.28 | yasir | hi |
| 12:40.28 | __m4ch1n3__ | think it is usually loaded when xorg.conf is executed... |
| 12:41.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | hi |
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| 13:08.01 | limbo_ | I've tried proftp and pure-ftp, and some others. couldn't grok any of them/didn't work. |
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| 13:14.22 | trickytyper | after upadting!! Detected NVIDIA GPUs:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] [10de:1402] (rev a1)Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] (rev a1)Your card is supported by the default drivers.It is recommended to install thenvidia-drive blackflow |
| 13:14.25 | trickytyper | !!! |
| 13:14.25 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 13:14.30 | trickytyper | it found my card, now what next? |
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| 13:14.38 | trickytyper | do i restart in order to be able to change resolution u think from now on ? |
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| 13:16.32 | __m4ch1n3__ | you should be able change res without nvidia driver |
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| 13:18.55 | __m4ch1n3__ | try "xrand" |
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| 13:19.43 | TrickkyTyper | You are a god ! blackflow |
| 13:19.51 | TrickkyTyper | got it workign!! my resoultion is back to normal!! as if im using windows!! |
| 13:19.54 | TrickkyTyper | yees! |
| 13:20.17 | __m4ch1n3__ | xrandr without arguments should list displays and compatible mods/resolutions |
| 13:22.53 | __m4ch1n3__ | xrandr --output <DISPLAY-DEVICE> --mode <X-RES>x<Y-RES> |
| 13:23.20 | __m4ch1n3__ | e.g xrandr --output HDMI-1-1 --mode 1920x1080 |
| 13:23.41 | TrickkyTyper | so i have fixed my resolution issue, by upgrading to Stretch, but now i when i start steam it doesnt work, so what i did was do nvidia-detect and i got this message: Detected NVIDIA GPUs:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] [10de:1402] (rev a1)Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GM206 [GeForce GTX 950] (rev a1)Your card is supported by the default drivers.It is |
| 13:23.41 | TrickkyTyper | recommended to install thenvidia-driver |
| 13:23.54 | TrickkyTyper | What do i do in order to get it to work, i have installed apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 13:24.02 | TrickkyTyper | and nothing changed, do i need to restart? |
| 13:24.30 | __m4ch1n3__ | would first "apt-get purge nvidia-*" |
| 13:24.34 | __m4ch1n3__ | then reboot |
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| 13:24.46 | __m4ch1n3__ | then install nvidia again |
| 13:24.53 | __m4ch1n3__ | and reboot again |
| 13:25.35 | TrickkyTyper | okay thank you |
| 13:25.52 | __m4ch1n3__ | after install nvidia again and before reboot |
| 13:26.27 | __m4ch1n3__ | check if nouveau driver is blacklisted |
| 13:27.04 | __m4ch1n3__ | grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/* |
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| 13:27.15 | __m4ch1n3__ | should return something like |
| 13:27.38 | __m4ch1n3__ | /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau |
| 13:27.43 | TrickkyTyper | pre reinstall i tried apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 13:27.45 | TrickkyTyper | and got this now pt-get install nvidia-driverReading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... DoneSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.The following information may help to resolve the |
| 13:27.45 | TrickkyTyper | situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies:libgl1 : Depends: libglx0 (= 1.0.0+git20180308-2~bpo9+1) but it is not going to be installednvidia-driver : Depends: nvidia-driver-libs (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be installedDepends: nvidia-driver-bin (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be installedDepends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be |
| 13:27.45 | TrickkyTyper | installedDepends: nvidia-vdpau-driver (= 375.82-1~deb9u1) but it is not going to be installedDepends: nvidia-alternative (= 375.82-1~deb9u1)Recommends: nvidia-settings (>= 375) but it is not going to be installedRecommends: nvidia-persistencednvidia-kernel-dkms : Depends: nvidia-kernel-support--v1E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held |
| 13:27.50 | TrickkyTyper | i ever saw that before :( |
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| 13:28.33 | __m4ch1n3__ | apt-get purge nvidia-* |
| 13:28.35 | __m4ch1n3__ | reboot |
| 13:28.46 | __m4ch1n3__ | then "apt-get install nvidia-driver" |
| 13:29.26 | __m4ch1n3__ | make sure you have non-free in your sources.list |
| 13:29.43 | TrickkyTyper | okay let me reboot since i did the purge |
| 13:29.47 | TrickkyTyper | before i try to add it agian brb |
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| 13:31.47 | TrickkyTyper | okay restarted |
| 13:31.48 | TrickkyTyper | lets try her out |
| 13:32.32 | __m4ch1n3__ | check /etc/apt/sources.list first |
| 13:32.48 | TrickkyTyper | sigh i got this |
| 13:32.48 | TrickkyTyper | https://paste.debian.net/1031439/ |
| 13:32.56 | TrickkyTyper | let me check it |
| 13:33.29 | TrickkyTyper | https://paste.debian.net/1031440/ |
| 13:33.32 | TrickkyTyper | thats my sources |
| 13:33.36 | __m4ch1n3__ | you should have "main contrib non-free" at the end of evry deb http:// line |
| 13:34.18 | TrickkyTyper | nvivida detect still states this |
| 13:34.18 | TrickkyTyper | https://paste.debian.net/1031441/ |
| 13:34.19 | __m4ch1n3__ | looks ok, |
| 13:34.26 | TrickkyTyper | okay let me add it? |
| 13:34.28 | TrickkyTyper | what you recommended? |
| 13:34.38 | TrickkyTyper | main contrib non-free to every deb? |
| 13:35.04 | __m4ch1n3__ | your sources.list is fine |
| 13:35.10 | TrickkyTyper | yea |
| 13:35.13 | TrickkyTyper | so why doesnt it work |
| 13:35.16 | __m4ch1n3__ | apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 13:35.20 | TrickkyTyper | lets try it again |
| 13:35.26 | __m4ch1n3__ | sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 13:35.32 | TrickkyTyper | using debian |
| 13:35.33 | TrickkyTyper | im already su |
| 13:35.34 | TrickkyTyper | root |
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| 13:36.07 | TrickkyTyper | now its working |
| 13:36.09 | TrickkyTyper | downloading ;) |
| 13:36.11 | TrickkyTyper | lets see yehaw |
| 13:36.40 | __m4ch1n3__ | then before reboot check if free nvidia driver is blacklisted |
| 13:36.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/* |
| 13:37.07 | TrickkyTyper | okay |
| 13:37.09 | TrickkyTyper | lets check |
| 13:37.26 | TrickkyTyper | returned /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau |
| 13:37.50 | TrickkyTyper | becasue if i run detect-nvidia or vice versa again it gigves me same message |
| 13:37.50 | __m4ch1n3__ | ok now reboot again and it should work |
| 13:37.56 | TrickkyTyper | to install nivida-driver |
| 13:38.01 | TrickkyTyper | okay perfect let me try that one out |
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| 13:38.03 | TrickkyTyper | fingers crossed** |
| 13:38.09 | __m4ch1n3__ | he? what gives you the message? |
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| 13:39.17 | __m4ch1n3__ | oh dectect-nvidia, hmm never used it tbh |
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| 13:40.51 | TrickkyTyper | didnt work |
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| 13:41.04 | TrickkyTyper | so im back into my system and if i do nvidia-detect i get the same message as before recommneded to download nvdia-driver |
| 13:41.05 | TrickkyTyper | lmao |
| 13:41.21 | __m4ch1n3__ | forget nvidia-detect |
| 13:41.35 | __m4ch1n3__ | try nvidia-settings |
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| 13:42.09 | TrickkyTyper | so yes |
| 13:42.11 | TrickkyTyper | it worked! |
| 13:42.12 | TrickkyTyper | lol |
| 13:42.18 | TrickkyTyper | okay lemme look at this |
| 13:42.19 | __m4ch1n3__ | :) |
| 13:42.22 | TrickkyTyper | my sensai |
| 13:42.41 | TrickkyTyper | yes baby!! |
| 13:42.45 | TrickkyTyper | now i just need steam to start up for me |
| 13:42.53 | __m4ch1n3__ | hmmm |
| 13:43.02 | TinkerTiger | If it's not one thing, it's two more. |
| 13:43.16 | TrickkyTyper | haha well im just missing LibGl.so.1 |
| 13:43.20 | TrickkyTyper | for the 32bit librareis |
| 13:43.24 | TrickkyTyper | but i can google that i guess |
| 13:43.27 | __m4ch1n3__ | on my machine performance in debian is way better then in windows in steam gameshave |
| 13:43.33 | TrickkyTyper | :O |
| 13:43.35 | TrickkyTyper | thats what i want |
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| 13:44.01 | __m4ch1n3__ | na just "apt-get install steam" |
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| 13:44.44 | __m4ch1n3__ | everything you need is in debian repository |
| 13:45.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | it will install a shitload on packages cuz steam need i386 libs |
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| 13:46.46 | TrickkyTyper | when i try to run steam https://paste.debian.net/1031442/ |
| 13:46.54 | TrickkyTyper | so i did that apt-get install steam and i get this |
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| 13:47.59 | __m4ch1n3__ | "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:" |
| 13:48.39 | __m4ch1n3__ | not sure how you installed steam without installing i386 libs, guess you installed it before nvidia driver? |
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| 13:49.22 | __m4ch1n3__ | installing steam with apt from debian repo should get all packages |
| 13:51.17 | TrickkyTyper | yea i dunno thats really wierd |
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| 13:51.21 | TrickkyTyper | but what i did was purge steam |
| 13:51.28 | __m4ch1n3__ | you could try del the local user steam directory |
| 13:51.29 | TrickkyTyper | remove it completely , remove the home folder it had .steam |
| 13:51.32 | TrickkyTyper | exactly |
| 13:51.34 | TrickkyTyper | and reinstaleld |
| 13:51.35 | TrickkyTyper | same issue |
| 13:51.40 | __m4ch1n3__ | should be ~/.steam or so |
| 13:51.51 | __m4ch1n3__ | and then "apt-get install --reinstall steam" |
| 13:51.56 | TrickkyTyper | well nowi i have it |
| 13:52.01 | TrickkyTyper | so remove that |
| 13:52.06 | TrickkyTyper | and uninstall steam again with apt-get purge? |
| 13:52.47 | __m4ch1n3__ | hmm sounds good |
| 13:52.52 | TrickkyTyper | ok let me try this |
| 13:53.17 | TrickkyTyper | steam folder gone time to purge the isntall |
| 13:53.27 | __m4ch1n3__ | steam is a sort of package manager so make sure you removed local user steam dir |
| 13:54.02 | TrickkyTyper | yea i removed rm -r ~/.steam |
| 13:54.04 | TrickkyTyper | right? |
| 13:54.13 | TrickkyTyper | purged the install and now will do the apt-get install --reinstall steam option |
| 13:54.22 | TrickkyTyper | correct? |
| 13:54.37 | __m4ch1n3__ | yeah and try "apt-get -f install" |
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| 13:54.47 | TrickkyTyper | apt-get -f install --reinstall steam |
| 13:54.49 | __m4ch1n3__ | should install missing packages |
| 13:54.49 | TrickkyTyper | ? |
| 13:54.52 | TrickkyTyper | okay |
| 13:54.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | no |
| 13:54.57 | TrickkyTyper | crosses fingers |
| 13:55.00 | __m4ch1n3__ | only "apt-get -f install" |
| 13:55.19 | TrickkyTyper | wierd trhing is after i ddi that |
| 13:55.51 | TrickkyTyper | after i did the purge it still shows up i nmy application finder |
| 13:55.54 | TrickkyTyper | as if stea ms istill there |
| 13:55.57 | TrickkyTyper | steam is still there** |
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| 13:56.15 | TrickkyTyper | running it does attempt to update steam wtf lol |
| 13:56.16 | __m4ch1n3__ | hmm gues its only a shortcut |
| 13:56.17 | TrickkyTyper | but i just removed it? |
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| 13:57.08 | __m4ch1n3__ | "apt-get install steam" |
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| 13:57.27 | __m4ch1n3__ | and if it doesnt get i386 libs |
| 13:57.39 | __m4ch1n3__ | try "apt-get -f install" |
| 13:57.51 | TrickkyTyper | perfect i found the other folder |
| 13:57.54 | TrickkyTyper | i revemod it now |
| 13:58.10 | TrickkyTyper | it givesd me a new install agreement |
| 13:58.19 | TrickkyTyper | when i click it from the applocation finder is now a good time to apt-get install it? |
| 13:58.23 | TrickkyTyper | or do i still have to remove things? |
| 13:58.40 | __m4ch1n3__ | he wait :D |
| 13:59.02 | __m4ch1n3__ | type "command -v steam" in terminal |
| 13:59.02 | TrickkyTyper | ? |
| 13:59.20 | __m4ch1n3__ | what does it say |
| 13:59.25 | TrickkyTyper | usr bin steam |
| 14:00.01 | __m4ch1n3__ | ok so you dindt purge steam, k then first try "apt-get -f install" |
| 14:00.26 | TrickkyTyper | of what? |
| 14:00.26 | TrickkyTyper | steam?> |
| 14:00.35 | __m4ch1n3__ | no just |
| 14:00.41 | __m4ch1n3__ | apt-get -f install |
| 14:00.44 | TrickkyTyper | 2 me it went through purge command |
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| 14:01.12 | TrickkyTyper | Reading package lists... Doneuilding dependency tree Reading state information... DonePackage 'steam:i386' is not installed, so not removed upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.oot@Server:/usr/bin# |
| 14:02.25 | TrickkyTyper | sigh still stuck wit ha broken version of steam haha |
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| 14:03.47 | TrickkyTyper | still get /usr/bin/steam even after i purged lol |
| 14:03.48 | TrickkyTyper | i promiss |
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| 14:04.11 | __m4ch1n3__ | ls /usr/bin/steam |
| 14:05.06 | __m4ch1n3__ | "ls /usr/bin/steam" and post what it returns |
| 14:05.56 | TrickkyTyper | ues it might ahve worked |
| 14:05.59 | TrickkyTyper | i removed that whjole folder |
| 14:06.06 | TrickkyTyper | and now when i click steam in application finder nothing happens |
| 14:06.15 | __m4ch1n3__ | "ls /usr/bin/steam" and post what it returns |
| 14:06.17 | TrickkyTyper | so how do i install it properly so i dont annoy you again lmao |
| 14:06.34 | TrickkyTyper | as root |
| 14:06.35 | TrickkyTyper | ls: cannot access '/usr/bin/steam': No such file or directory |
| 14:06.36 | TrickkyTyper | ;) |
| 14:06.52 | __m4ch1n3__ | "apt-geti install steam" and pastebin the console output |
| 14:07.00 | TrickkyTyper | roger that |
| 14:07.02 | TrickkyTyper | apt-get install steam |
| 14:07.03 | __m4ch1n3__ | *apt-get |
| 14:07.20 | __m4ch1n3__ | affirmative |
| 14:07.23 | __m4ch1n3__ | :D |
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| 14:08.00 | TrickkyTyper | yhes sir, https://paste.debian.net/1031445/ |
| 14:08.08 | TrickkyTyper | you did a mighty good job with me bro ur hella helping! |
| 14:08.19 | TrickkyTyper | good sign or na? |
| 14:09.41 | TrickkyTyper | well now it does nothing in application finder whe ni click steam |
| 14:09.44 | TrickkyTyper | nothing at all happens |
| 14:10.08 | TrickkyTyper | over console it works |
| 14:10.10 | TrickkyTyper | so ill have to fix it |
| 14:10.14 | TrickkyTyper | via shortcut :) |
| 14:10.16 | __m4ch1n3__ | start it from terminal |
| 14:10.16 | TrickkyTyper | ur amaszing bro |
| 14:10.18 | __m4ch1n3__ | steam |
| 14:10.19 | TrickkyTyper | yes |
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| 14:10.30 | TrickkyTyper | now how do i change that account in application finder to start steam via terminal |
| 14:10.55 | __m4ch1n3__ | just open terminal and type "steam" |
| 14:12.31 | TrickkyTyper | sigh __m4ch1n3__ how about this one |
| 14:12.31 | TrickkyTyper | https://paste.debian.net/1031447/ |
| 14:12.37 | TrickkyTyper | still missing the sameeeeeeeeee files |
| 14:12.38 | TrickkyTyper | lmafo |
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| 14:13.13 | TrickkyTyper | loll Error: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:libGL.so.1 |
| 14:14.07 | TrickkyTyper | https://paste.debian.net/1031448/ |
| 14:14.12 | TrickkyTyper | same problem |
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| 14:17.18 | TrickkyTyper | __m4ch1n3__, another trying work around, same problem https://paste.debian.net/1031449/ |
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| 14:19.00 | __m4ch1n3__ | try "apt-get --fix-missing install" |
| 14:20.35 | __m4ch1n3__ | and if it still doesnt work then |
| 14:21.26 | __m4ch1n3__ | apt-get install nvidia-driver-libs:i386 nvidia-driver-libs-i386:i386 libgl1:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 |
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| 14:34.20 | __m4ch1n3__ | TrickkyTyper, and? |
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| 14:47.02 | TrickkyTyper | hold on |
| 14:47.04 | TrickkyTyper | lemme get back |
| 14:47.06 | TrickkyTyper | __m4ch1n3__, |
| 14:47.36 | TrickkyTyper | apt-get --fix-missing install |
| 14:47.36 | TrickkyTyper | Reading package lists... Done |
| 14:47.36 | TrickkyTyper | Building dependency tree |
| 14:47.36 | TrickkyTyper | Reading state information... Done |
| 14:47.36 | TrickkyTyper | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 14:48.16 | TrickkyTyper | __m4ch1n3__, okay its installing the second one you suggested |
| 14:48.22 | TrickkyTyper | the other two didnt come up with anything |
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| 14:49.41 | TrickkyTyper | YES |
| 14:49.42 | TrickkyTyper | IT WORKED |
| 14:49.46 | TrickkyTyper | ur a chapion! |
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| 14:55.06 | TrickkyTyper | an all night from jessie to stretch |
| 14:55.08 | TrickkyTyper | im very pelased |
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| 14:55.15 | TrickkyTyper | no virtual hiccups just my own |
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| 16:21.33 | p0lyph3m | c50a326 : Either is functorial in its second type parameter only ; fmap applies f only to second paameter ; the Right |
| 16:21.57 | p0lyph3m | s/paameter/parameter/ |
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| 16:32.25 | Gringonar_ | Hi |
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| 16:33.15 | Gringonar_ | I'm having trouble booting/installing debian, Anyone willing to help? |
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| 16:35.37 | TrickkyTyper | just wanted to say thanks again to everyoenm who stayed awake helping me upgrade jessie to stretch and to getting my nvriders working to install and play CSGO |
| 16:35.40 | TrickkyTyper | I am very excited :D |
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| 16:36.42 | Gringonar_ | They may still be passed out ^^ |
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| 16:38.25 | diverdude | Hi, I am trying to import matplotlib in my python program, and I am getting this: "QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-bdi'" whereafter python just hangs. I know this is some debian problem because on other machines i can easily use matplotlib in python. What seems to be the problem here? |
| 16:38.26 | mtn | !ask |
| 16:38.26 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:38.37 | mtn | Gringonar_: ^^ |
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| 16:41.10 | Pusteblume | diverdude, maybe you are missing a required package like xdg-user-dirs |
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| 16:42.11 | diverdude | Pusteblume: hmm trying to install that just gives me: xdg-user-dirs is already the newest version. |
| 16:43.01 | Pusteblume | diverdude, and you are running on python2 or 3? |
| 16:43.16 | diverdude | Pusteblume: python3 |
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| 16:44.31 | Gringonar_ | i think i'm having a kernal panic during start up |
| 16:44.41 | mtn | Gringonar_: explain in detail |
| 16:44.47 | Gringonar_ | Its very new hardware |
| 16:45.06 | Gringonar_ | after im trying the live version |
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| 16:46.15 | Gringonar_ | it get stuck during boot and gives a bunch of hardware error messages |
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| 16:46.49 | Gringonar_ | i cant make heads nor tails of it |
| 16:47.11 | mtn | Gringonar_: paste the errors to dpaste.com and give us the link, or take a pic and put it on imgur.com |
| 16:47.33 | Gringonar_ | cant boot into nothing to copy or paste |
| 16:47.52 | Gringonar_ | i can upload a picture if that helps? |
| 16:48.43 | Pusteblume | its bad style to answer with links, right? |
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| 16:49.37 | Pusteblume | cause, diverdude, this here is the closest solution i got: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45981317/why-do-i-get-warning-qstandardpaths-xdg-runtime-dir-not-set-every-time-for-a |
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| 16:50.32 | diverdude | Pusteblume: thanks |
| 16:51.30 | Gringonar_ | :( |
| 16:52.11 | nkuttler | Gringonar_: try booting other kernels first, if that doesn't help take a picture i guess |
| 16:52.55 | nkuttler | Gringonar_: or if you changed the hardware configuration of the machine, undo that.. |
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| 16:55.59 | Gringonar_ | its a brand new laptop |
| 16:56.20 | Gringonar_ | Its my first time installing linux on a laptop |
| 16:57.08 | heston | hello, is anyone aware of a problem with lightdb on debian stretch? It's failing to show my screen after my laptop puts the screen to sleep. It still allows me to login but then other things appear to be broken as well |
| 16:57.18 | nkuttler | Gringonar_: what model? |
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| 16:57.44 | Gringonar_ | msi GE73 8RF |
| 16:58.04 | heston | I've been having a lot of problems with Stretch, Had to completely disable Hibernation and Sleep because they were happening randomly and failing |
| 16:58.27 | heston | lightdm* |
| 16:58.57 | Gringonar_ | it has 8750 cpu coffee lake |
| 16:59.08 | Gringonar_ | It 8750K |
| 16:59.16 | nkuttler | Gringonar_: screenshot of the error please |
| 16:59.24 | Gringonar_ | ok |
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| 17:01.09 | heston | never had these problems with Wheezy on the same laptop(thinkpad T500) |
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| 17:05.42 | dreamblack | Hi all |
| 17:06.09 | Gringonar_ | nkuttler: https://imgur.com/a/3enTCXa |
| 17:06.47 | Gringonar_ | brb |
| 17:06.58 | mtn | heston: what is your video hardware? |
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| 17:07.48 | heston | mtn, how come I don't have this issue on any other OS? Debian Wheezy, NETBSD, Win 7 |
| 17:07.55 | mtn | heston: what is your video hardware? |
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| 17:08.43 | heston | mtn, Intel GMA 4500MHD |
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| 17:10.08 | mtn | heston: that is a pretty old chip and a quick search shows others with issues with it using stretch |
| 17:10.51 | heston | I had none of these issues while using Wheezy |
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| 17:11.24 | mtn | heston: wheezy uses older software than does stretch |
| 17:11.46 | heston | which means there's been new bugs introduced |
| 17:12.23 | mtn | heston: maybe just lack of support for older hardware using newer software |
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| 17:27.12 | Gringonar_ | mtn: NV 1070 |
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| 17:27.17 | Gringonar_ | sorry about that |
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| 17:37.31 | Gringonar_ | nkuttler: Did it show anything usefull? |
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| 17:38.37 | __m4ch1n3__ | how to disable networkmanager permanently? "systemctl disable NetworkManager.service" has no effect. |
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| 17:39.58 | strive | __m4ch1n3__: Try masking it. |
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| 17:40.56 | strive | Masking the service will make the service impossible to start. |
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| 17:42.56 | __m4ch1n3__ | oh thats not true, it has an effect, my nm dispatcher script is disabled but nm autostarts after reboot, k will try to mask it when figured out how to mask services |
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| 17:44.32 | strive | Temporarily: systemctl mask NetworkManager.service --runtime |
| 17:44.45 | __m4ch1n3__ | ah k, nice thx |
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| 17:44.59 | strive | Ensure units are also stopped: systemctl mask NetworkManager.service --now |
| 17:45.24 | strive | It's all in 'man systemctl'. |
| 17:45.29 | strive | Sure thing! :) |
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| 18:02.12 | Gringonar_ | Is coffee lake supported in debian? |
| 18:02.17 | __m4ch1n3__ | curious about wpa_supplicant driver variety wext, nl80211, madwifi, ndis. ndis is for "windows driver" devices like some fritz dongles, madwifi for older atheros chipsets |
| 18:04.23 | __m4ch1n3__ | are thes just diffrent implementations for one protocol? |
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| 18:48.58 | somiaj | Gringonar_: look up support in the linux kernel, determine what linux kernel is required to support cofee lake. Debian stretch's default kernel is 4.9, if you need a newer kernel like 4.16, you can get that in stretch-backports (but if you need that kernel to install, this can be more problemmatic) |
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| 18:55.55 | melissa666 | how do I create a root account on a Debian system that was installed without root account (only sudo user)? |
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| 18:58.10 | GNU\colossus | you always have a root account; it just doesn't have to have a password set |
| 18:58.17 | GNU\colossus | `sudo passwd root` can change that |
| 18:58.36 | somiaj | melissa666: or just sudo -i, become root |
| 18:58.41 | somiaj | no need to create a password if you have sudo |
| 19:00.28 | melissa666 | somiaj, thanks - I just want to disable ability for regular user to run all commands with sudo (and limit to small specific set). I want the root password required to become root. |
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| 19:01.51 | melissa666 | GNU\colossus, appreciate it - `sudo passwd root` is what I needed |
| 19:02.19 | Gringonar_ | How could you fix a kernel panic? |
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| 19:03.19 | somiaj | melissa666: you might also have to unlock the root account, check the new password works and unlocked the accoutn first |
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| 19:04.55 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, you need to figure out the precise cause before you can think about "fixing" a panic |
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| 19:07.37 | Gringonar_ | How can i do that? |
| 19:08.39 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, that depends on how/when the panic happens. can you describe what you are doing with your system right before/ when the kernel panics? |
| 19:08.51 | GNU\colossus | and can you reproduce the issue at will? |
| 19:09.22 | Gringonar_ | yeah its simple lol |
| 19:10.20 | Murii_ | hey, I need a place to run redshift everytime I boot |
| 19:10.25 | Gringonar_ | Any distro i write to usb as live gives a panic during boot |
| 19:10.27 | Murii_ | suggestions? |
| 19:10.37 | Gringonar_ | I tried fedora kernel 4.17 |
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| 19:11.01 | Gringonar_ | Ubuntu Kernel 4.15 |
| 19:11.11 | Gringonar_ | and my trusty deb :( |
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| 19:11.52 | Gringonar_ | https://imgur.com/a/3enTCXa |
| 19:12.03 | Gringonar_ | this is the error deb gives me |
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| 19:12.46 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, that's no kernel panic; that's just debug output by the kernel about device discovery |
| 19:12.53 | Gringonar_ | I can't make much sense of it |
| 19:13.14 | Gringonar_ | ok how can i prob the system? |
| 19:13.17 | GNU\colossus | I think the problem you have is that your graphics card/solution (is this a lpatop?) isn't properly supported |
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| 19:13.41 | Gringonar_ | It is the nvidia 1070 |
| 19:13.54 | silverballz | the graphics card is probably on the cpu as a gpu |
| 19:14.00 | silverballz | nm |
| 19:14.14 | Gringonar_ | oh its the intel UHD 630 |
| 19:14.36 | Gringonar_ | the cpu is I7 8750K |
| 19:15.12 | GNU\colossus | I'm afraid I have no experience with that particular mix of hardware |
| 19:15.31 | Gringonar_ | ok |
| 19:15.44 | GNU\colossus | but if you can find a way to install the recent proprietary nivida drivers, or boot a live distro that comes with them pre-installed |
| 19:15.49 | Gringonar_ | do you know anywhere i can find more information? |
| 19:15.50 | GNU\colossus | you problem will probably go away |
| 19:16.18 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, I'm not sure, but https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/hybrid_graphics should be a decent starting point, I guess |
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| 19:16.46 | silverballz | you might be able to just add the drivers to the usb |
| 19:17.27 | Gringonar_ | I'm not too experienced with that |
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| 19:17.54 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, you could try https://sourceforge.net/projects/slackex/ (it's the first live distro google turned up for me with nvidia drivers included) |
| 19:18.17 | GNU\colossus | I have no experience using it, but it'd be a first step to validate your particular hardware can run a GUI on GNU/Linux :) |
| 19:18.47 | GNU\colossus | and you can try to make your distro of choice cooperate with your hardware after you've seen it's possible |
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| 19:19.35 | Gringonar_ | Yeah thats my intention |
| 19:19.49 | Gringonar_ | I'm trying to switch away from windows |
| 19:20.13 | Gringonar_ | but i only ever had experience with debian and that time it worked out of the box |
| 19:20.38 | silverballz | this is for the debian installer but you could try this: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/ch06s04.html.en |
| 19:21.12 | silverballz | once you have the intel drivers just extract and copy them to /lib/firmware/ |
| 19:21.37 | silverballz | its worked for me before but i never tried it with a live distro |
| 19:22.10 | Gringonar_ | oh ok |
| 19:22.14 | GNU\colossus | silverballz, that will do nothing to remedy his current problem, however |
| 19:22.24 | silverballz | if that dont work it could be a bios setting |
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| 19:22.46 | silverballz | well so far we need more information to even identify the problem, we are just guessing at best lol |
| 19:23.18 | Gringonar_ | Yeah im trying to learn how to get more information |
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| 19:24.22 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, the easiest way to test _if_ there is a substantial problem, is to fire up a distro that should be prepared to deal with the hardware you have |
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| 19:40.09 | Gringonar_ | How can i find such a distro? |
| 19:40.26 | Gringonar_ | btw the slackware one freezes just the same during boot |
| 19:40.59 | Gringonar_ | since the screen stays blank after selecting boot Slackware live i assume its the same? |
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| 20:15.59 | linuxcobbler | partition resize left me with "either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt" :( i've tried e2fsck -f -b <superblock> /dev/... but it's not working, aways has the same filesystem / physical size mismatch - what are my other options for recovering? this happened when shrinking fs, so fs size > physical size right now -fs = ext4 |
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| 20:28.35 | JPT | linuxcobbler: Perhaps resize2fs can help you a bit? If it complains that you need to run fsck first and if fsck complains, too, you could just resize that partition back to original size, then do fsck + shrinking the fs and then shrink the partition |
| 20:28.50 | JPT | It's been a while since i last shrinked a partition |
| 20:29.49 | JPT | Most important: Keep calm - unless you're already using that new "free space" for something, your data is still there. |
| 20:30.07 | JPT | (Also, in case things go wrong, be sure that your backups are still in good shape :) |
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| 20:32.35 | JPT | If i remember correctly, e2resizefs requires a proper fsck being run before it is going to do things. After you have shrinked the filesystem, you can then adjust the size of your partition. After you've done that, verify that fsck is still fine with everything and then you should be done. |
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| 20:36.15 | Gringonar_ | GNU\colossus i tried it it freezes during boot without any messages |
| 20:36.32 | Gringonar_ | Just a blank screen |
| 20:37.16 | GNU\colossus | Gringonar_, hm :/ that's disappointing. you might have to fiddle with our BIOS/UEFI setup to get this machine to work |
| 20:37.32 | GNU\colossus | (probably by deactivating one of the GPUs it has) |
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| 20:44.12 | linuxcobbler | JPT: tried all of your suggestions, did not work - and yes, i still have free space but there should not be any data there anyway |
| 20:44.53 | linuxcobbler | fsck does not work (as noted above)... resize2fs does not work, also tried resize2fs <dev> <size of physical> |
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| 20:46.48 | linuxcobbler | resize2fs: Can't read a block bitmap while trying to resize |
| 20:47.47 | JPT | Okay ... can you paste your current state and - if still available - the commands you issued that got you into this situation? |
| 20:47.59 | JPT | Are you using fdisk/gdisk/parted? |
| 20:49.06 | JPT | You can use https://paste.debian.net/ to paste your data |
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| 20:54.49 | linuxcobbler | here are the last few command i've used: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0eb94b20/ |
| 20:54.56 | linuxcobbler | JPT: ^ |
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| 20:56.23 | JPT | Oh |
| 20:57.15 | strive | linuxcobbler: Your name would make for an awesome Linux group; #linuxcobbler |
| 20:57.25 | JPT | Okay, so you have this: disk > partition > cryptsetup things > decrypted volume > actual filesystem |
| 20:57.49 | JPT | I have no idea how cryptsetup deals with shrinking partitions |
| 20:57.58 | linuxcobbler | strive: i just made it up as i don't have my original nick pw right now (i'm on a livecd) |
| 20:58.07 | strive | linuxcobbler: Oh, haha. |
| 20:58.33 | linuxcobbler | JPT: the volume is decrypted properly that's not an issue AFAIK |
| 20:58.53 | linuxcobbler | JPT: it's properly in /dev/mapper/ |
| 20:58.59 | JPT | Sure, the filesystem (or at least most of the parts) seem to be there |
| 21:00.40 | JPT | Okay, let's start with the actual partition on your disk: Is it still in its shrinked size or is it still in its original size? |
| 21:01.32 | JPT | I assume that the size of your partition directly influence the size of your decrypted /dev/mapper device |
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| 21:02.20 | JPT | Since your tools are complaining that they cannot read a bitmap or that the fs seems to be corrupt because it is larger than the mapper device that it lies on, i assume you maybe have a chance. |
| 21:03.02 | JPT | Unmount and close that /dev/mapper device, resize the partition on your disk to its original size, then open and decrypt that mapper device from that resized partition again. |
| 21:03.36 | JPT | (make sure to run partprobe or something so the new partition size is known to your system before trying to decrypt that partition again) |
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| 21:04.13 | JPT | I assume that if the partition size is still shrinked, the visible data on the decrypted mapper device is just "cut off". That's probably why your tools are complaining. |
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| 21:04.27 | JPT | Does this sound plausible? |
| 21:05.15 | linuxcobbler | i need to find out what my partition size is in 4k blocks |
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| 21:05.47 | linuxcobbler | i don't have man pages on my live cd system - keep having to look them up on the internet |
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| 21:06.07 | linuxcobbler | also, i'm not too sure i'm supposed to resize a partition while luks is encrypted |
| 21:06.24 | linuxcobbler | i know that when the resizing (shrinking) was happening, luks was decrypted |
| 21:07.07 | linuxcobbler | i've never seen any partition manager allowing the resizing of an luks encrupted partition - it always has to be decrypted |
| 21:08.04 | JPT | I'm not sure what you have inside your - let's call it - "luks container" |
| 21:08.17 | JPT | I know for sure that you have a disk with a bunch of partitions on it. |
| 21:08.23 | linuxcobbler | no |
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| 21:08.29 | linuxcobbler | the whole disk is not encrypted |
| 21:08.33 | linuxcobbler | just the one partition |
| 21:08.40 | JPT | For one of these partitions, you ran something like cryptsetup luksFormat and that one partition became your luks container. |
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| 21:09.06 | JPT | So if you run cryptsetup luksOpen for that partition, you get a /dev/mapper device for that decrypted container. |
| 21:09.19 | linuxcobbler | yes (your last reply) |
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| 21:09.30 | JPT | What's inside it? Just a filesystem or is it GPT or MBR formatted with multiple partitions on it? |
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| 21:09.48 | linuxcobbler | just 1 partition ext4 |
| 21:10.01 | JPT | So - no partition but just a plain filesystem? |
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| 21:10.26 | JPT | (At least that's what most people would do) |
| 21:10.30 | linuxcobbler | hrm good catch |
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| 21:10.45 | linuxcobbler | how would i check? |
| 21:11.14 | JPT | If you run fdisk/gdisk/parted on that /dev/mapper device and ask it to print the partition table, you will see. |
| 21:11.36 | JPT | I expect that there is no partition table at all, since your /dev/mapper device just contains that one filesystem |
| 21:13.18 | JPT | According to your pastebin, there shouldn't be a partition table. :) |
| 21:14.08 | JPT | Okay. So we have: disk > partition > luks container with just one filesystem on it |
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| 21:15.02 | linuxcobbler | JPT: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/1dbe9bd1/ |
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| 21:16.05 | linuxcobbler | ignore sdb that's the livecd |
| 21:16.09 | linuxcobbler | live usb rather |
| 21:16.26 | JPT | Awesome. So /dev/sda2 contains your luks container /dev/mapper/homecrypt with just that filesystem on it. |
| 21:17.30 | JPT | Currently, your /dev/sda2 is about 714.5G in size and this reflects almost 1:1 onto your /dev/mapper/homecrypt device. (There's a tiny overhead for the luks thing) |
| 21:18.13 | linuxcobbler | yes, before shrinking that would have been around 735G or so (it was a 20G shrink attempt) |
| 21:19.21 | JPT | Okay. How far did you get with that shrinking attempt? Which steps did you go through (and in which order)? |
| 21:19.25 | linuxcobbler | if you notice, there is a gap in sectors between sda2 and sda3, because sda2 was shrinking 20G (before sda2 would have reached sector 1917872127 |
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| 21:19.38 | linuxcobbler | JPT: i don't know, it was automated via partition manager |
| 21:19.41 | JPT | Ah, okay. |
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| 21:20.04 | JPT | At least you are still able to tell how large that partition must have been before the shrinking |
| 21:20.07 | JPT | That's good |
| 21:20.22 | linuxcobbler | i do know, that before shrink e3fsck was ok no errors, after shrink attemp, errors :( |
| 21:20.40 | linuxcobbler | e2fsck |
| 21:20.58 | JPT | No worries, i think we have a good chance on this |
| 21:21.04 | linuxcobbler | if i remember correctly, i saw inode errors but it could have been my imagination |
| 21:21.04 | JPT | Just keep calm :) |
| 21:21.09 | JPT | Assumption: I think your partition manager tried to first shrink the partition and then run something like resize2fs in order to get the fs shrinked to the new size. |
| 21:21.09 | linuxcobbler | i'm calm |
| 21:21.12 | linuxcobbler | very tired though :D |
| 21:21.20 | linuxcobbler | takes me forever to read |
| 21:21.38 | JPT | In that case, just make sure to double check the things you may be doing soon |
| 21:21.50 | linuxcobbler | of course |
| 21:22.31 | JPT | So - if you have no fancy luks things, that partition manager would probably have done everything fine and things would be working. |
| 21:22.54 | JPT | Unfortunately, that luks part adds a bit of additional things to take care of. |
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| 21:23.14 | JPT | Here is what i would do to restore the previous situation: |
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| 21:23.38 | JPT | 1) unmount and cryptsetup close that luks container |
| 21:23.43 | linuxcobbler | well maybe, but you should note that about a year ago i did the exact same thing with success (on the exact system, except i think shrinking was 130G to make room for sda4) |
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| 21:24.10 | linuxcobbler | that's why sda4 is after swap (i also probably recreated swap) |
| 21:24.38 | JPT | I guess sometimes things don't go as expected. A partition manager is nice and usually works fine. In this scenario, something went wrong. |
| 21:24.50 | linuxcobbler | yep, first time in 25 years! |
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| 21:25.12 | JPT | Okay, so back to the steps to restore the situation: |
| 21:25.31 | JPT | After closing that luks container properly, enlarge the /dev/sda2 partition back to its previous size |
| 21:25.32 | RoyK | JPT: why do you use partitions when you can use lvm? |
| 21:25.50 | TrickkyTyper | rt |
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| 21:26.20 | RoyK | rt? |
| 21:26.24 | JPT | RoyK: I use both depending on what i need to do. |
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| 21:27.33 | linuxcobbler | JPT: ok, so how would i go about resizing to EXACTLY the same size? |
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| 21:28.47 | JPT | I like to use gdisk to 1) print the current partition table, 2) delete the partition in question and 3) re-create that partition with the same(!) starting point and the largest possible ending point (which is restricted by the other existing partitions in your case) |
| 21:29.20 | JPT | (Also, it's probably a good idea to choose the same partition type) |
| 21:30.38 | JPT | After this is done, running something like partprobe is probably a good idea so the kernel knows about the different partition size. |
| 21:31.43 | linuxcobbler | JPT: makes sense, i'm trying to see if i can recover more data on the original sda2 size |
| 21:32.19 | JPT | If that still does not cut it, you can use cryptsetup status /dev/mapper/homecrypt to get information about the containers size. |
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| 21:33.08 | JPT | There is also cryptsetup resize which may be helpful and - as far as i know - should be able to automatically adapt the size of the container if possible. (Maybe not for shrinking, but at least for enlarging) |
| 21:33.46 | JPT | At least, you should be able to return to a state where fsck is happy again. |
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| 21:36.25 | linuxcobbler | cryptsetup resize is not needed if you close or open as that's automatic AFAIK |
| 21:36.34 | linuxcobbler | cryptsetup status: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/1dc5f582/ |
| 21:37.32 | JPT | yup, that adds up perfectly with your shrinked partition size |
| 21:37.57 | linuxcobbler | where do you see that? |
| 21:38.03 | JPT | (size of your shrinked partition in sectors) - (size of your luks container in sectors) = 4096 |
| 21:38.13 | JPT | 1498429440 - 1498425344 = 4096 |
| 21:38.16 | linuxcobbler | ooooooooh |
| 21:38.17 | linuxcobbler | yes |
| 21:38.18 | JPT | and 4096 is the offset :) |
| 21:38.22 | linuxcobbler | 4096 by luks |
| 21:38.26 | linuxcobbler | smart :D |
| 21:38.49 | JPT | It may not be automatic like a partition manager, but this way i still learn a lot :) |
| 21:39.24 | JPT | So when your partition is back to its original size, you can compare the cryptsetup status to see if it's already in good state |
| 21:39.31 | linuxcobbler | yes that's usually the best way (if you have time) |
| 21:40.06 | linuxcobbler | will do still trying to check if i can recover data re pre-shrink status - will take a few more min |
| 21:40.33 | linuxcobbler | then i can compare to whatever fdisk will want to do |
| 21:40.56 | JPT | Take all the time you need. |
| 21:41.24 | linuxcobbler | lol just tried to put my memory card into memory reader and i ejected the whole reader :( |
| 21:41.35 | linuxcobbler | been years since i tried to use it |
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| 21:42.05 | JPT | Just a thought: In order to avoid issues, it's probably a good idea to mount that filesystem in read only mode |
| 21:42.28 | linuxcobbler | why would i mount it? |
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| 21:43.21 | linuxcobbler | it's not mounted atm... i'm on a live usb... nothing from that hard disk is mounted |
| 21:43.27 | JPT | Oh - i misread that. I thought you were trying to recover data now. |
| 21:43.42 | linuxcobbler | yes, but from a usb drive |
| 21:43.53 | JPT | Okay^^ |
| 21:43.58 | linuxcobbler | sorry, confusing i know... i may have saved logs to usb drive |
| 21:44.01 | linuxcobbler | :D |
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| 21:46.15 | linuxcobbler | JPT: i think i have to whole log of the partition manager! |
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| 21:46.51 | JPT | That's nice - this way you can try to figure out what went wrong |
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| 21:52.21 | linuxcobbler | JPT: ok, so initial (pre-shrink) e2fsck was successful, partition resize & set geometry was successful, then e2fsck gave errors |
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| 21:53.10 | linuxcobbler | JPT: esize file system on partition â/dev/sda2â to 1498429440 sectors: Success <--- sector size is what fdisk now shows |
| 21:53.54 | JPT | Okay. Resizing a partition is usually easy - just changing one or two numbers in the MBR or GPT |
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| 21:55.05 | JPT | I expected the partition manager to do the shrinking "from the inside to the outside". As in: Shrink the filesystem first, then shrink the luks container, then shrink the partition. |
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| 21:55.37 | JPT | Without the luks container, it also works the other way around. With the luks container, i am not sure. |
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| 22:08.26 | dziri | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.30 | dziri | opps |
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| 22:10.09 | RoyK | dreamon_: time to change the password? ;) |
| 22:10.18 | RoyK | dziri: you, perhaps |
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| 22:10.29 | dziri | lol ywp |
| 22:10.56 | linuxcobbler | JPT: ok, first brain teaser, when re-creating partition: Partition #2 contains a crypto_LUKS signature. Do you want to remove the signature? [Y]es/[N]o: |
| 22:11.01 | linuxcobbler | JPT: my gut reaction is N |
| 22:11.05 | linuxcobbler | :) |
| 22:11.16 | JPT | mhhh... :| |
| 22:11.22 | blackflow | dziri: no problem all we saw was /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER dziri ************ |
| 22:11.42 | JPT | I have to admit, that sounds a bit scary. |
| 22:11.49 | linuxcobbler | yes it does! |
| 22:13.14 | JPT | Let me think about this a bit. |
| 22:13.28 | linuxcobbler | ok, i'm doing some thinking too, and reading :) |
| 22:14.26 | JPT | As far as i know, a "partition" is just an idea that consists of these things: A partition number, starting sector, ending sector, perhaps total size, a partition type (83 for linux, ef02 for efi stuff, ...) and maybe some flags like "hidden" or "bootable" |
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| 22:15.45 | muffinman8 | I cant find much info on configuring xen on debian 9 stretch. Does anyone have any specific suggestions/resources? Also this can be done correct? |
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| 22:21.03 | JPT | linuxcobbler: Abort! Which tool were you using? |
| 22:21.10 | linuxcobbler | JPT: i'm going to N and discard fdisk changes, then backup luks header (which the official luks docs say how to do) |
| 22:21.23 | linuxcobbler | fdisk |
| 22:21.27 | JPT | Okay. |
| 22:21.57 | JPT | I did not get many results, but people are suggesting that fdisk will actually wipe data from a partition (or at least parts of it) when deleting a partition. |
| 22:22.02 | JPT | Try using gdisk instead |
| 22:22.30 | linuxcobbler | i actually thought you typod fdisk when writing gdisk |
| 22:22.33 | linuxcobbler | never heard of gdisk |
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| 22:23.50 | JPT | gdisk is basically a more modern version of fdisk which can deal with gpt just fine, too. |
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| 22:24.13 | JPT | fdisk is more of an older, mbr only tool |
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| 22:26.49 | JPT | muffinman8: I don't know Xen at all. I guess these two resources may give you a basic start, but apart from that, you may need to wait for Xen experts to appear. https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Beginners_Guide and https://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 22:27.26 | JPT | muffinman8: There is also #xen here on freenode in case you want to talk about xen specific things. Good luck :) |
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| 22:27.29 | RoyK | JPT: fdisk only changes the partition table - nothing else |
| 22:28.12 | JPT | RoyK: Then why is it printing this warning: "Partition #2 contains a crypto_LUKS signature. Do you want to remove the signature?" |
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| 22:28.40 | JPT | Removing the signature != deleting the partition |
| 22:29.07 | RoyK | JPT: not sure about LUKS - perhaps there's part of the key there - if so, you're in tough luck getting the data out of there |
| 22:29.42 | RoyK | better keep a full copy of the partition table (first megabyte on the disk will be quite sufficient) |
| 22:30.03 | RoyK | dd if=/dev/sda of=parttable.backup bs=1M count=1 |
| 22:30.07 | JPT | Well, the goal is to resize the partition. The traditional way is to delete and re-create. I never had such an issue with gdisk, so i assume that that particular flavour of fdisk may be able to do more than i expected. |
| 22:30.11 | JPT | Good idea :) |
| 22:31.12 | RoyK | or just use LVM next time - partition tables are so 1990 |
| 22:31.43 | JPT | I'll leave that up to linuxcobbler. I'm just supporting here. :) |
| 22:32.31 | linuxcobbler | backed up luks header, backing up part header now (thanks RoyK) |
| 22:33.02 | RoyK | linuxcobbler: backup the data too - better safe than sorry |
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| 22:33.32 | linuxcobbler | RoyK: data is backed up |
| 22:33.38 | linuxcobbler | most of it |
| 22:33.38 | kingsley | When should I expect Talos II/Raptor/IBM/AMD kernel video patches submitted to Linus to appear in Debian's unstable kernels? |
| 22:33.40 | RoyK | good |
| 22:35.02 | linuxcobbler | btw, yes partition tables are so 90s, but that's literally when I started my system partitions and have kept them ever since (with resizing & migrating over different hard drives of course) |
| 22:35.34 | linuxcobbler | plus lvm + luks seemed a little scary when i decided to encrypt my partition |
| 22:35.48 | linuxcobbler | i'm sure it's gotten better now |
| 22:37.05 | RoyK | https://www.linux.com/blog/how-full-encrypt-your-linux-system-lvm-luks ? |
| 22:37.45 | linuxcobbler | thanks RoyK, that was not an options years ago :) |
| 22:37.51 | wonderer | hi all |
| 22:38.03 | RoyK | linuxcobbler: well, that article is only three years old ;) |
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| 22:38.12 | wonderer | while doing a apt-get dist-upgrade from stretch to wheery |
| 22:38.22 | wonderer | wheezy |
| 22:38.32 | wonderer | am getting Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 22:38.45 | wonderer | dovecot-* |
| 22:38.50 | wonderer | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 22:38.54 | wonderer | any ideas? |
| 22:39.02 | RoyK | ,v dovecot |
| 22:39.03 | judd | No package named 'dovecot' was found in amd64. |
| 22:39.17 | RoyK | iirc dovecot was removed some time back |
| 22:39.19 | annadane | um... you can't go from stretch to wheezy |
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| 22:39.34 | annadane | you can't go back *one* stable release let alone two |
| 22:39.39 | RoyK | good point :) |
| 22:39.43 | wonderer | hmm |
| 22:39.47 | wonderer | So |
| 22:39.53 | wonderer | what should i do? |
| 22:39.55 | annadane | absolutely stop everything you're doing and you probably need to reinstall now |
| 22:40.06 | annadane | because you have a half stretch half wheezy frankendebian mess |
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| 22:40.34 | wonderer | yea probably annadane |
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| 22:42.12 | muffinman8 | @jpt thanks been reading that link. Will seek to join the xen group as well. |
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| 22:45.01 | JPT | muffinman8: You're welcome. Good luck :) |
| 22:45.29 | wonderer | well |
| 22:45.47 | wonderer | upgrade from stretch to wheezy seemed to go through :) |
| 22:45.54 | annadane | ...don't |
| 22:45.57 | wonderer | Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.11 (wheezy) |
| 22:45.57 | wonderer | Release: 7.11 |
| 22:46.06 | annadane | you will not have a working system, like, at all |
| 22:46.12 | annadane | but whatever, it's your computer |
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| 22:51.08 | azarus | are debian downgrades even supported? |
| 22:51.18 | azarus | I recall a myriad of breakages |
| 22:51.30 | annadane | they're not |
| 22:51.42 | annadane | not full stable releases anyway |
| 22:52.03 | lapyo | all my torrent traffic seems to be blocked somehow after switching from ubuntu to debian, I haven't made any changes with network settings and I just copied my home partition to this debian install |
| 22:52.30 | lapyo | I've tried transmission-gtk, -daemon and some other software with no luck |
| 22:52.46 | azarus | lapyo: get a vpn? |
| 22:53.05 | lapyo | why would that help in this particular scenario? |
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| 22:53.18 | lapyo | I have no trouble with my ISP and torrent traffic |
| 22:53.43 | lapyo | besides I'm only downloading linux distros |
| 22:53.48 | azarus | it being blocked is very unlikely to be a distro problem |
| 22:54.31 | lapyo | well I have this very same installation image on my other computer without any previous home partition and everything works fine |
| 22:56.08 | lapyo | I mean, it seems weird since I have only my home partition from the ubuntu installation, so nothing root required to control networking |
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| 22:59.04 | lapyo | okay so idk what happened but after just running netstat and lsof -i -P, transmission-gtk seems to run fine |
| 23:00.14 | lapyo | weird |
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| 23:12.24 | linuxcobbler | JPT: FYI it looks like I'm using the MBR partition table anyway, not GPT - fdisk & parted say msdos table, gdisk says Found invalid GPT and valid MBR |
| 23:12.39 | linuxcobbler | JPT: i think fdisk is the correct way to go about this then, what do you think? |
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| 23:12.49 | JPT | Using gdisk on mbr is still fine |
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| 23:13.20 | linuxcobbler | JPT: but will it NOT delete luks info...? hrm |
| 23:14.04 | JPT | It should not. At least you can check if it's asking the same dangerous question |
| 23:14.31 | linuxcobbler | JPT: my thinking is, it may not even ask and just delete because it may not take that into consideration |
| 23:14.37 | linuxcobbler | at least fdisk asks |
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| 23:14.56 | linuxcobbler | that's my thinking so far... could be wrong |
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| 23:15.33 | JPT | gdisk should not care about the contents of your partitions at all. All it needs to manipulate is the mbr/gpt header of your disk. |
| 23:16.36 | JPT | If you feel safe with fdisk, you can still answer the wiping question with no and still have the partition deleted? |
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| 23:16.57 | jim | linuxcobbler, could it be that's because there was remnants of a GPT table written there before? |
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| 23:17.58 | Akuw | i am learning about LVM, can i use / as LVM? |
| 23:18.10 | jim | yep |
| 23:18.20 | Akuw | wait |
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| 23:18.25 | jim | with LVM, instead of putting filesystems in partitions directly, you put 'LVM physical volumes' in partitions, then you make a 'volume group' (which is just a list of physical volumes), and put physical volumes in the volume groups, then you can make 'logical volumes', and these are allocated out of the volume groups |
| 23:18.40 | Akuw | i know the concept |
| 23:19.08 | jim | ok |
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| 23:20.27 | jim | I think you could temporarily have both |
| 23:20.41 | Akuw | but filesystem should be LVM or ext4 |
| 23:20.45 | Akuw | because i got an error |
| 23:20.51 | linuxcobbler | JPT: deleting partition was normal, that question was asked when creating partition if i remember correctly |
| 23:21.10 | JPT | Oh - okay. Just make sure it does not wipe any data. :) |
| 23:21.22 | Akuw | i am doing clean install |
| 23:21.28 | Akuw | virtualbox |
| 23:21.34 | JPT | The question still scares me a bit. It's too much of "service oriented fdisk" for me. |
| 23:21.41 | jim | (your existing / partition, -and- an exact copy on a LV |
| 23:21.50 | linuxcobbler | jim: what do you mean? what does "could it be" refer to? |
| 23:22.39 | jim | another way of saying "is it possible" |
| 23:23.08 | Akuw | jim: when i select lvm i got error |
| 23:23.18 | Akuw | for / |
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| 23:23.35 | jim | Akuw, wait :) |
| 23:23.35 | RoyK | Akuw: or xfs? |
| 23:23.43 | jim | don't do that yet |
| 23:23.44 | linuxcobbler | jim: i mean, what is that regarding? what gdisk prints or the fdisk question? |
| 23:24.00 | jim | don't wipe your / partition! |
| 23:24.39 | Akuw | xfs error |
| 23:24.59 | Akuw | is a clean install on virtualbox don't worry |
| 23:26.16 | Akuw | or ext3 |
| 23:28.02 | jim | Akuw, what you would do if you're installing a fresh debian, is build the lvm first (put new PVs on partitions, make a volume group including that pv, then allocate an LV for / from the lvm system you will have just built |
| 23:28.34 | jim | you can do that inside a debian netinstaller image |
| 23:29.19 | Akuw | i am doing from install |
| 23:29.36 | Akuw | actually i selected xfs for / and it accept it |
| 23:29.41 | jim | linuxcobbler, I was just wondering, maybe there used to be a GPT partition table on the drive that got overwritten by putting an MBR partition table over it |
| 23:30.30 | linuxcobbler | jim: maybe i don't remember |
| 23:30.45 | jim | Akuw, if you tell it to use a partition as LVM, I believe it would put an LVM PV there |
| 23:31.48 | jim | linuxcobbler, ok, maybe that's why some tools are reporting a broken GPT partition table on the drive... how large is it? |
| 23:33.00 | jim | that is, how large is the drive? |
| 23:33.17 | linuxcobbler | jim: wait what tool is reporting that, gdisk says invalid gpt, using mbr.... but before that gdisk states partition table scan: mbr only |
| 23:33.40 | linuxcobbler | oh and gdisk always converts mbr to gpt in memory, that sounds scray |
| 23:33.42 | linuxcobbler | scary |
| 23:33.55 | Akuw | exit |
| 23:34.12 | jim | linuxcobbler, I guess you just said gdisk reported it |
| 23:34.54 | linuxcobbler | jim: i don't know how gdisk reports disks when the disk is 100% mbr (it may be the same way) |
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| 23:36.36 | jim | linuxcobbler, howbout this: what I'm saying doesn't really matter about what's reporting what, what does matter is what you want to do with the drive |
| 23:38.10 | linuxcobbler | jim: i want to revert the partition size to what it was before the shrink attemp without touching the underlying data |
| 23:38.58 | jim | uhoh, now that sounds scary :) |
| 23:39.13 | linuxcobbler | jim: i have a mismatch between physical size and filesystem size |
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| 23:39.14 | linuxcobbler | :( |
| 23:39.47 | jim | ok, how large is the filesystem? |
| 23:39.55 | linuxcobbler | > 700G |
| 23:40.23 | jim | and how large is the partition currently? |
| 23:41.11 | linuxcobbler | ah ok if you want to be exact i can be, but fs is ~ 20G bigger than physical size of partition |
| 23:41.17 | linuxcobbler | of device |
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| 23:42.18 | jim | ok, how was the partition shrunk? was the end moved down, or the beginning moved up? |
| 23:42.31 | linuxcobbler | end moved down |
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| 23:43.02 | jim | ok, (don't do anything yet) it -seems- like you could just move it back |
| 23:43.09 | linuxcobbler | jim: there's a catch, data is encrypted in luks |
| 23:43.43 | linuxcobbler | jim: yes, that's what i'm trying to do, restore it to how it was before the failed shrink attempt (if you mean the same thing by "move it back") |
| 23:44.46 | linuxcobbler | jim: because of luks, i have to make sure nothing is overwritten especially in the beginning of the partition since that's where luks data resides |
| 23:44.50 | jim | ok, do you know if there's overhead in the encryption data? that is, should the partition be even larger than that 20g to accomodate that overhead? |
| 23:44.54 | linuxcobbler | encryption data |
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| 23:45.19 | jim | also, I'm out of my depth here, you need to be talking with someone with actual experience |
| 23:45.25 | linuxcobbler | :) |
| 23:45.32 | linuxcobbler | thanks for trying |
| 23:45.38 | jim | I have none with luks |
| 23:45.46 | jim | welcome |
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| 23:46.54 | jim | I have expernence with unencrypted partitions, where the size calculations would be straightforward, but none here |
| 23:47.39 | linuxcobbler | first time in 25 years i'm having a partition issue :/ been using luks for a long time too, never had any problem |
| 23:50.05 | jim | linuxcobbler, one thing, don't alter any other partitions, or especially make new partitions |
| 23:51.02 | linuxcobbler | jim: yep |
| 23:51.51 | jim | is the luks partition the top one on the whole drive? |
| 23:52.02 | linuxcobbler | jim: inside that one partition |
| 23:52.24 | linuxcobbler | and luksOpen works on it no problem |
| 23:52.54 | linuxcobbler | can't mount it of course since it's broken |
| 23:53.52 | jim | I just had a thought... if there's a partition defined above the luks partition, maybe the bottom edge of the partition above has the right setting for the top edge of the partition in question |
| 23:54.04 | JPT | Resizing the partition back to its original size should fix it. :) |
| 23:54.27 | linuxcobbler | question being what's the proper way to do that without screwing anything up :D |
| 23:54.57 | JPT | I leave the decision up to you - As long as you do not wipe data on the partition in the process, you should be fine :) |
| 23:55.02 | jim | also, how do you figure out what the original size is |
| 23:55.38 | linuxcobbler | jim: i know what the original size is because i was brilliant enough to save partitioning output to a log file on a usb drive :D |
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| 23:56.37 | jim | linuxcobbler, that's good, because of that, I think you have a good chance of recovering the correct size |
| 23:58.00 | jim | JPT, once he makes that correction, the next question is how does he repair the partition (he said something about it being damaged in some way) |
| 23:58.17 | JPT | It isn't really damaged (i hope) |
| 23:58.26 | JPT | It is just cut off at the end which makes fsck complain |
| 23:58.37 | linuxcobbler | what JPT said (hopefully) |
| 23:58.54 | linuxcobbler | i did not write any data over anything since the failed shrink attempt |
| 23:58.57 | jim | tread carefully :) |
| 23:59.14 | jim | and you should be fine |
| 23:59.40 | linuxcobbler | yeah the whole luks thing is making me nervous... reading man pages on gdisk and more technical stuff on fdisk |