| 00:00.36 | jim | maybe you should focus on resetting the top edge of the partition |
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| 00:03.36 | JPT | I will get some sleep now. Good luck for the recovery - keep calm and read the warnings. |
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| 00:04.10 | JPT | Tomorrow will probably be a good day to think about backups again. |
| 00:04.21 | linuxcobbler | JPT: thank you for the tremendous help - i really appreciate it |
| 00:04.34 | JPT | You're welcome. :) |
| 00:05.24 | linuxcobbler | there's a change i'll sleep on my decision and go from there |
| 00:05.45 | linuxcobbler | don't want to make some idiotic mistake or misread something |
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| 00:07.51 | nzhuk98 | I can't get logind to catch power/suspend button on my laptop (Dell XPS 13 9360). Closing the lid shows an event in the log and gets processed accordign to defaults in logind.conf. Presing power button doesn't produce anything in journalctl and does nothing. Holding the button for 8 (or 9) seconds causes is it work as power off and does trigger shutdown. It's the short press that supposed to trigger suspend |
| 00:07.53 | nzhuk98 | that doesn't work. Here is some info from journalctl https://paste.debian.net/1031518/. What am I missing? |
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| 00:49.57 | MuffinMedic | Hi all. I have this line in my crontab file but it's not running and im not sure why. Any help is apprecaited: "0 3 * * * /usr/bin/rdiff-backup -v 6 --force --remote-schema "ssh -C -p1234 %s rdiff-backup --server" --include-globbing-filelist /root/backup.txt / pi@home.website.net::/mnt/VPS >> /root/backups/$(date +"%Y-%m-%d_%H%M").log 2>&1" |
| 00:50.26 | MuffinMedic | The line works fine when I run it outside of cron from the command prompt |
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| 00:51.18 | MuffinMedic | Oh I forgot to escape the % it hink |
| 00:51.22 | Tom-_ | you can try putting that all in a shell script somewhere and then executing that |
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| 03:19.10 | mallxs | on a ssh to a new stretch the ctrl-c will not stop a running ping command , i check stty and saw a diff between stretch and jessie for the brkint value, where can i change the default stty settings ? |
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| 04:23.48 | helloworld1 | do I need registered nick? |
| 04:23.55 | helloworld1 | I guess not |
| 04:24.55 | Sveta | hello, helloworld1 :) |
| 04:25.32 | helloworld1 | hi |
| 04:26.39 | helloworld1 | ok so I am switching from ubuntu to debian on two machines |
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| 04:26.47 | Sveta | yes |
| 04:26.58 | helloworld1 | each has different issues but I will tackle one machine at a time |
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| 04:27.38 | helloworld1 | I think it partitioned as UEFI on my Z97 motherboard that has auto UEFI/EFI |
| 04:27.52 | helloworld1 | I can see the ESP partition |
| 04:28.02 | helloworld1 | but grub failed to install |
| 04:28.10 | helloworld1 | I have a really limited shell |
| 04:28.40 | helloworld1 | there is a popup message about / being ram disk and /target being the installed OS after reboot |
| 04:29.01 | helloworld1 | but I have the same physical disks listed in /dev and /target/dev |
| 04:29.14 | helloworld1 | nothing in /mnt or /target/mnt |
| 04:31.15 | helloworld1 | there is also a popup message about "you will need to boot manually with the /vmlinuz kernel on partition /dev/sda2 and root=/devsda2 quiet passed as a kernel argument" |
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| 04:32.10 | helloworld1 | I did nano /target/etc/grub/default |
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| 04:32.35 | helloworld1 | or maybe it was /target/etc/default/grub |
| 04:33.01 | helloworld1 | I got in but I had some blank lines. one of them just says quiet and one is blank |
| 04:33.12 | helloworld1 | not sure what I need to do |
| 04:33.36 | helloworld1 | I guess I need to find the path to vmlinuz and some help about how the syntax works |
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| 04:35.37 | TrickkyTyper | Hey' |
| 04:35.39 | TrickkyTyper | whats up guys |
| 04:36.20 | Sveta | helloworld1, hmm |
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| 04:37.02 | helloworld1 | if I reboot the machine without the live usb recovery console (boot from broken installation on HD) I get error: no such device 2da7addw-63a2-4f24-97c3-0cfb80014593 |
| 04:37.08 | Sveta | helloworld1, the installer usually installs grub for you. i'm not sure how to debug this, sorry. i'd look for relevant error messages |
| 04:37.16 | helloworld1 | I get a grub> prompt |
| 04:38.31 | helloworld1 | grub>ls shows (hd0) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1) |
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| 04:39.14 | helloworld1 | ^ this confirms my suspicion that it is a GPT/GUID partition setup attempting to boot with UEFI GRUB 2.02 |
| 04:40.16 | helloworld1 | pretty sure gpt2 = sda2 no matter which way you count up |
| 04:40.47 | helloworld1 | I can use the live ubuntu usb to get to the grub shell that is a little bit better than this one |
| 04:41.07 | helloworld1 | or just full live ubuntu usb if that would help? |
| 04:42.55 | helloworld1 | sveta yes I have enough error messages but I do not have examples of a working debian grub config for UEFI debian 9 grub 2.02 |
| 04:43.31 | helloworld1 | I did search for answers but none of them are compatible with my specific distro |
| 04:43.41 | helloworld1 | and UEFI |
| 04:44.17 | helloworld1 | what is the init for debian 9? |
| 04:44.46 | helloworld1 | and whats the uname -r command to get the kernel name? |
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| 04:49.28 | Sveta | lessthan0 you may wish to ask #grub in case they have experience recovering unsuccessful grub installs |
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| 04:52.19 | Tom-_ | the init for Debian 9 is by default systemd |
| 04:52.20 | lessthan0 | I am pretty much just asking for the one line of code that tells grub where the kernel is on debian 9 amd64 with a known install on /dev/sda2 |
| 04:52.45 | lessthan0 | Tom-_ yeah I was assuming systemd that is why I have no experience |
| 04:52.54 | lessthan0 | I know initrd and runit |
| 04:53.10 | Tom-_ | i guess it's uname -s |
| 04:53.20 | Tom-_ | well, you can always run runit |
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| 04:54.03 | lessthan0 | I don't want to do anything different from what the debian installer would normally do because I don't want to break anything else |
| 04:54.36 | lessthan0 | I prefer to learn your ways of systemd and debian 9 standards |
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| 04:55.43 | lessthan0 | if I do uname -s how do I know that will give me the kernel of the target disk and not the live usb I am running? |
| 04:56.03 | lessthan0 | I am running ubuntu live to work on the drive |
| 04:56.15 | lessthan0 | I guess I should mount /dev/sda2 |
| 04:56.42 | themill | !fixgrub |
| 04:56.42 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 04:58.10 | themill | make sure it is booted in UEFI mode and that grub-efi-amd64 is installed (assuming this is an amd64 installation) |
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| 04:59.18 | lessthan0 | I erased the debian 9 installer I had on my only usb 8gb drive so I could use a live ubuntu usb to do my edits of the grub config |
| 04:59.51 | themill | that should be fine as long as you're booted in UEFI mode |
| 04:59.54 | lessthan0 | so I am currently at the local terminal on my other box running ubuntu live usb to rescue this install |
| 05:00.20 | lessthan0 | is there a way to check if I booted the live usb in uefi? |
| 05:01.03 | lessthan0 | I can just reboot it from bios that will tell me |
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| 05:01.39 | themill | the presence of /sys/firmware/efi/ |
| 05:01.47 | lessthan0 | I can confirm I am booted live usb in UEFI |
| 05:03.27 | lessthan0 | I do have /sys/firmware/efi |
| 05:05.21 | lessthan0 | can I use fdisk to show if sda2 is ext2 or ext4 |
| 05:05.48 | lessthan0 | before I mount it I want to make sure I am using the right command |
| 05:06.41 | lessthan0 | I usually don't specify ext4 when I mount something and I never had a problem before so not sure why I need to specify that now? |
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| 05:09.44 | lessthan0 | ok I used lsblk -f |
| 05:09.54 | lessthan0 | sda2 us ext4 |
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| 05:12.48 | lessthan0 | I run "mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /target" I get an error mount: /target: mount point does not exist |
| 05:13.10 | ozfalcon | did you make a dir /target ? |
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| 05:13.48 | lessthan0 | I thought mount creates directories dynamically (automatically) |
| 05:13.53 | lessthan0 | I will try mkdir |
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| 05:14.29 | lessthan0 | ok that works now |
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| 05:15.37 | ozfalcon | just did and update on Buster and nvidia drivers are not working. Even tried purge and reinstall with no success. |
| 05:16.26 | ozfalcon | Locks the system up on boot (Have no root account for rescue). Had to remove the nvidia card and boot from onboard. |
| 05:16.46 | ozfalcon | Using nouveau now. |
| 05:19.58 | lessthan0 | ok I did all the mount and bind |
| 05:20.21 | lessthan0 | I am trying to understand the commands more as I do them |
| 05:20.26 | lessthan0 | so I can learn this stuff |
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| 05:21.15 | brieweb | anyone here using openvswitch? |
| 05:21.37 | brieweb | I am just trying to create a switch and add the network interface to it |
| 05:21.41 | lessthan0 | the mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys is just creating dummy mounts from null so that they will exist? |
| 05:21.58 | lessthan0 | to prevent errors? |
| 05:22.54 | lessthan0 | or because they are virtual file systems they technically don't have a block device as input for a source to mount from? |
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| 05:23.19 | lessthan0 | proc and sysfs redirects to the kernel? |
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| 05:25.22 | lessthan0 | ok I did chroot /target |
| 05:25.43 | lessthan0 | I read the docs on chroot and I think I understand it |
| 05:25.55 | lessthan0 | so now /target changed to / |
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| 05:26.25 | lessthan0 | when I ls from / I do not see /target because I am already inside it (ls /target) |
| 05:26.50 | lessthan0 | I see vmlinuz on / |
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| 05:28.18 | lessthan0 | is mount /boot/efi correct for UEFI? |
| 05:34.12 | lessthan0 | ls /boot output is System.map-4.9.0-6-amd64 config-4.9.0-6-amd64 efi grub initrd.img-4.9.0-6-amd64 vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-amd64 |
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| 05:40.48 | lessthan0 | this last part has me confused |
| 05:41.20 | lessthan0 | not sure if I need to mount sda1 where the ESP is or mount sda2 where my ext4 is |
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| 05:55.25 | lessthan0 | grub-install: error efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error |
| 05:55.36 | lessthan0 | Could not prepare Boot variable: No such file or directory |
| 05:56.19 | lessthan0 | lsblk -f is acting strange since it no longer identifies ext4 ESP on sda1 sda2 |
| 05:56.30 | lessthan0 | it is totally blank |
| 05:56.52 | lessthan0 | I think the chroot messed up lsblk -f |
| 05:57.09 | lessthan0 | this is some voodoo |
| 05:58.50 | lessthan0 | maybe I need to force the motherboard into UEFI only mode during install |
| 05:59.03 | lessthan0 | and just reinstall debian 9 from usb again |
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| 06:03.43 | lessthan0 | looks like my bios was in UEFI only but CSM was turned ON so it is technically not exactly UEFI only |
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| 06:04.02 | lessthan0 | that is what is causing the debian 9 installer to fail to install grub |
| 06:04.53 | lessthan0 | it probably reverts back to EFI on a non-EFI system because the bios is telling lies half the time |
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| 06:32.20 | CtrlC | I downloaded the gnome iso from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ but when I try to install it, it tries to find something from "CD". how can I solve this. I don't get it. isn't it supposed to work with USB too? |
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| 06:51.09 | rant | as far as it is concerned anything you put i on is a cd |
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| 06:52.39 | annadane | CtrlC, if you want to "install" debian as in write to disk just use the regular installer image |
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| 06:53.36 | annadane | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso if you have internet access on the target machine |
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| 06:57.27 | CtrlC | rant, can't find it. maybe it has something to do with UEFI? |
| 06:57.41 | rant | CtrlC: though as annadane suggests its better to us a normal installer image I installed from a MATE Live image onto this machine and wound up with a ton of packages I didnt need or want, and an install double the normal size because live images just copy the running live setup and it has support packages for every language and inpu mehod imaginable |
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| 06:58.59 | CtrlC | I just need it installed for now. I'm downloading the net iso. I hope it'll work fine. |
| 06:59.51 | rant | CtrlC: what sort of internet connectivity do you have on the machine? |
| 07:00.23 | CtrlC | rant, something semi shitty if it matters. |
| 07:00.31 | annadane | because while you can get some kind of permanence on live images i think, it's more work than just using the installer meant for the purpose of being a typical, common install |
| 07:00.52 | rant | yes it matters the netinsal can only install a base text mode system without connecting to the internet |
| 07:01.26 | pingfloyd | that's not such bad way to go anyway |
| 07:01.40 | pingfloyd | install base through installer and then use apt for everything else you need from there |
| 07:01.46 | rant | it is for someone who doesnt know wha hey're doing |
| 07:01.50 | CtrlC | ah I have a wifi connection here. it's a desktop. rant and it is connecting using a dlink modem. |
| 07:01.50 | pingfloyd | se |
| 07:01.52 | pingfloyd | sure |
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| 07:02.12 | pingfloyd | CtrlC: if it's wifi, you may need the image with the non-free firmware |
| 07:02.21 | pingfloyd | in order to get wifi working in the installer. |
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| 07:02.25 | rant | CtrlC: what wifi? PCI or USB? check lsusb or lspci -nn and paste the wifi line |
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| 07:02.31 | CtrlC | USB. |
| 07:02.58 | rant | CtrlC: lsusb then should show you the name and vend/prod id code for it |
| 07:04.13 | rant | wonders why lsusb does that by default and lspci doesnt |
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| 07:04.41 | CtrlC | rant, can't access lsusb now. |
| 07:04.53 | rant | CtrlC: running windows? |
| 07:05.01 | CtrlC | no. running nothing. |
| 07:05.27 | rant | can you look and see what the make/model is incuding revision number of the device itself? |
| 07:05.55 | rant | CtrlC: to be on safe side you may want to use the unofficial firmware installer to be sure |
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| 07:06.07 | rant | dpkg, firmware installer |
| 07:06.07 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 07:06.15 | CtrlC | rant, can I just use a different image to get things offline? |
| 07:06.30 | rant | CtrlC: yes the full gnome dvd1 iso |
| 07:06.31 | CtrlC | It's a desktop thing. not a server. doesn't matter if it's a bit big really. |
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| 07:06.53 | LiQuiD | hello |
| 07:07.06 | annadane | hi LiQuiD |
| 07:07.13 | LiQuiD | hi annadane |
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| 07:07.47 | LiQuiD | i am using debian vps for ircd server but i cant able to connect anope with it |
| 07:07.47 | rant | CtrlC: we have dvd1 isos for each of our 7 DEs if you want to insall something other than gnome to start with, you can always install something else later from the repos |
| 07:08.00 | LiQuiD | need help regarding anope |
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| 07:08.25 | rant | we need help regarding you not telling us what the problem is |
| 07:08.38 | CtrlC | rant, that's huge! 4 GB. I'll try to see what the CD versions are. |
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| 07:09.26 | CtrlC | rant, I had the live version and it doesn't go past detecting the CD. that's the problem. idk what else to say. any specific questions? |
| 07:09.42 | rant | CtrlC: the cd versions will result in a less complete install and in any case if you dont use the firware installer and you DO need non-free firmware it'll have to be manually installed at some point anyhow |
| 07:10.21 | CtrlC | rant, I don't care really. I can install stuff later. But if I be able to get the debian running! |
| 07:11.10 | rant | if you dont have access to the repos because your device requires non-free firmware you can't until you manually download and copy the firmware package and install it |
| 07:12.01 | _m4ch1n3_ | be smart and download the official unofficial debian image with non-free firmware next time |
| 07:12.04 | CtrlC | rant, I can probably get tethering or something till I get it to work. that's no issue. the problem for now is I can't install this thing anyway. |
| 07:12.38 | rant | yeah I'm not sure why the live isnt detecting the CD |
| 07:13.06 | _m4ch1n3_ | https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ |
| 07:13.42 | rant | _m4ch1n3_: thanks, his has been addressed and ignored already beating a dead horse won't make it run again |
| 07:14.04 | _m4ch1n3_ | :D |
| 07:14.11 | _m4ch1n3_ | poor horse |
| 07:14.28 | TestDummy | hello, I am very new to debian and was wondering what the main source of packets that I install should be in sources.list |
| 07:14.45 | rant | !sources.list |
| 07:14.45 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 07:15.19 | rant | TestDummy: you may want to append "contrib non-free" to the end of each line after "main" |
| 07:16.06 | rant | TestDummy: use the three lines dpkg suggested above |
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| 07:18.38 | _m4ch1n3_ | is <stretch/updates> == <stretch-updates> ? |
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| 07:18.54 | rant | no |
| 07:19.18 | CtrlC | Thanks guys. |
| 07:19.47 | annadane | you can /msg dpkg stretch/updates and /msg dpkg stretch-updates to see the difference, just as it says |
| 07:20.02 | rant | stretch/updates is security updates stretech-updates is proposed updates what we used to call volitile for things that need updaes between releases or point releases |
| 07:21.09 | annadane | until people misspelled it and put "voltaire" in their sources.list and begin philosophically speaking french |
| 07:23.14 | _m4ch1n3_ | oh shit, so my sources.list is incomplete http://termbin.com/m4rq |
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| 07:24.33 | annadane | yeah i'm not entirely clear how buster-updates works but i think you're supposed to have it |
| 07:25.41 | annadane | actually i've had this conversation with someone before and it's really complicated and i don't remember half of it |
| 07:26.03 | annadane | the tl;dr is it's sometimes necessary sometimes not and it really depends on weird arcane obscure decisions |
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| 07:29.40 | rant | I'm not real certain either the current policy for testing sources.. historically it got no updates as its main repos were updated frequently but that had changed |
| 07:30.04 | rant | its not supported here, #debian-next on OFTC |
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| 07:50.04 | _m4ch1n3_ | why apt-get upgrade helds some packages back? have current 36 not updated packes, is this normal? |
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| 07:54.42 | jelly | !apt-get upgrade |
| 07:54.42 | dpkg | hmm... apt-get upgrade is probably not what you're looking for. try apt-get dist-upgrade instead, see 'man apt-get' for details |
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| 07:56.38 | rant | dist-upgrade frees apt up to do things that could be destructive.. there is a reason upgrade holds things |
| 07:59.00 | _m4ch1n3_ | damn to late |
| 07:59.24 | _m4ch1n3_ | update-initramfs throws wired warings |
| 07:59.27 | _m4ch1n3_ | WARNING: Unknown X keysym "dead_belowmacron" |
| 08:00.30 | rant | typically an upgrade will result only in replacing not removing things |
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| 08:08.58 | pingfloyd | upgrade will basically upgrade any packages it can without having to remove any packages to fulfill dependencies. |
| 08:09.14 | pingfloyd | dist-upgrade allows removal in order to upgrade everything. |
| 08:09.51 | rant | yes, which is why I dont take its use lightly and oftten bitch at people for using it in place of upgrade :P |
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| 08:16.17 | jelly | patches in stable require dist-upgrade so often it's not even worth trying to do a mere upgrade first |
| 08:16.49 | jelly | might have been different 10 years ago |
| 08:19.11 | pingfloyd | ^ |
| 08:20.09 | pingfloyd | shouldn't usually be a problem, unless you're running testing or unstable where sometimes not all updated packages will be available. |
| 08:20.18 | pingfloyd | but with those you should always do a dry-run first anyway |
| 08:20.32 | pingfloyd | to make sure all dependencies are in place on the repo |
| 08:21.47 | annadane | in testing/sid especially you really shouldn't blindly dist-upgrade |
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| 08:22.18 | annadane | should actually take the time and research/triangulate what's a planned removal, what's a transition, is this package now a part of this package and that's why apt is being weird ... |
| 08:23.11 | jelly | good thing we point users of those to the other, more appropriate channel, then |
| 08:23.34 | pingfloyd | it's normal, and should be expected, for packages to be missing with those two |
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| 08:25.52 | pingfloyd | that's why I run stable. I got sick of playing upgrade roulette a long time ago. |
| 08:26.16 | pingfloyd | if I need something more current than what stable provides, I'll just build it myself |
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| 08:49.06 | jozefk | o/ |
| 08:49.27 | jozefk | Is it OK to ask questions here about MX Linux? |
| 08:49.50 | annadane | !mxlinux |
| 08:49.51 | dpkg | Current MX Linux is based on Debian stretch. However, MX Linux is not supported in #debian. Seek help at https://mxlinux.org/. |
| 08:50.36 | jozefk | ok :) Thanks. the forum on that site wasn't working. I tried that first. |
| 08:51.48 | annadane | if the question is generic enough we can try to answer it or give you the solution that works in debian stretch but some people are opposed to that as a matter of policy |
| 08:52.14 | annadane | general issue with trying to solve other distros problems is they have distro specific changes which may make our solutions useless |
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| 08:53.28 | jelly | or harmful |
| 08:53.42 | annadane | or harmful |
| 08:53.54 | annadane | thus yeah, probably don't ask about it here unfortunately |
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| 08:54.09 | jozefk | It could be generic but I'm not sure. I don't have an issue yet. But I have a question. I boot MX Linux live off USB flash drive and during boot some things are copied to RAM. The question is what would happen if there is no enough RAM for that amount of files needed to be copied to it? |
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| 08:55.27 | jelly | probably a disk full situation |
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| 09:13.53 | heston | I found that Jessie and Wheezy both have a newer version of firefox than Buster, any idea why? |
| 09:14.26 | annadane | uh |
| 09:14.28 | Walakea | i installed Debian Testing, when i run Libreoffice, the GUI looks like Windows 95, i tried changing some opengl options, but now it won't even show pictures nor text |
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| 09:14.49 | annadane | Walakea, change it back and then either install libreoffice-gtk2 or libreoffice-gtk3 |
| 09:14.52 | annadane | ,v firefox-esr |
| 09:14.53 | judd | Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; stretch: 52.6.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.8.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 52.8.1esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.8.1esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 52.8.1esr-2; sid: 52.9.0esr-1; experimental: 60.1.0esr-1 |
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| 09:15.25 | annadane | looks not to be the case ...? |
| 09:15.38 | Walakea | annadane: i can't really see anything (including options), i guess i would purge "libreoffice*"? |
| 09:16.08 | annadane | well, i'm not sure which opengl options you changed and whether purging libreoffice would also purge the opengl settings |
| 09:16.11 | Walakea | also i did't mention, i am using KDE |
| 09:16.39 | annadane | ,v firefox |
| 09:16.40 | judd | Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 61.0-1; experimental: 62.0~b3-1 |
| 09:16.59 | heston | annadane, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&suite=oldstable§ion=all shows differently |
| 09:17.48 | annadane | oh, apparently there's a security patch that hasn't been fixed in buster yet |
| 09:17.49 | heston | my package options correlate with https://packages.debian.org |
| 09:17.54 | annadane | lemme check security.d.o |
| 09:18.39 | heston | both wheezy and jessie have 52.9 |
| 09:18.56 | annadane | yeeeep that's why https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/firefox-esr |
| 09:18.57 | heston | buster is at 52.8.1 |
| 09:19.10 | annadane | vulnerability; not yet fixed, should be soon |
| 09:19.58 | annadane | Walakea, but the general option for making libreoffice not look like windows 95 is to install one of the gtk packages |
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| 09:20.35 | heston | my mistake jessie and stretch* |
| 09:20.47 | annadane | same answer |
| 09:20.52 | heston | ya |
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| 09:21.39 | annadane | for future reference you can ask your buster/unstable questions in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, for when they get more technical |
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| 09:21.54 | dutchfish | annadane, fyi firefox wont land in testing due to y-u-no-validate/2013052407-3 |
| 09:22.06 | annadane | yeah i kind of suspected |
| 09:22.08 | heston | ok, not sure if ill stick with buster, it appears to be pretty unstable |
| 09:22.09 | annadane | just wanted to make sure |
| 09:22.20 | jelly | !testing security |
| 09:22.21 | dpkg | Security updates in testing are delayed by the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing dependencies, etc. See https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing |
| 09:22.33 | heston | yikes |
| 09:22.44 | annadane | ok; just be aware debian doesn't really support downgrades from testing -> stable so if you want stable you basically should reinstall |
| 09:22.52 | jelly | heston: testing is the _worst_ option wrt. security updates |
| 09:22.55 | Walakea | annadane: ok, installing libreoffice-gtk3 |
| 09:23.08 | heston | jelly, good to know, thanks |
| 09:23.33 | heston | annadane, thanks as well |
| 09:23.35 | annadane | also stupid me for relying on judd |
| 09:23.42 | annadane | it's not necessarily up to date |
| 09:24.11 | jelly | judd shouldn't be lagging more than 6-8 hours |
| 09:25.23 | Walakea | annadane: well, i installed it but it looks like there is only the base program, none of the writer / calc / ... are available |
| 09:25.38 | annadane | Walakea, it depends on what you had installed before |
| 09:25.57 | annadane | libreoffice is the metapackage if you want the entire suite |
| 09:26.19 | Walakea | annadane: man, i still don't know how apt works, i usually assume it will magically do what i want |
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| 09:26.41 | heston | well im gonna go try stretch with gnome instead of xfce and hope its more stable |
| 09:26.42 | annadane | as root history | grep libreoffice and you can then apt show what you installed and it gives package descriptions |
| 09:26.47 | MidTwitters | anyone recommend a good rss client for debian systems? |
| 09:26.53 | annadane | liferea |
| 09:27.03 | Walakea | i purged libreoffice* and assumed that installing libreoffice-gtk3 will install all that i uninstalled as dependencies |
| 09:27.20 | annadane | yeah, that's not gonna work :P |
| 09:27.34 | Walakea | MidTwitters: i have been usind Thunderbird for Email / RSS / IRC |
| 09:27.57 | MidTwitters | cool is liferea fairly minimal? |
| 09:28.15 | jelly | Walakea: if you look at that package Description, you'll see it's just a plugin |
| 09:28.33 | annadane | MidTwitters, you can see for yourself with apt show liferea |
| 09:28.45 | annadane | download size is 221 KB (at least in sid) with a few dependencies |
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| 09:28.56 | Walakea | so i guess i will install the package "libreoffice" |
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| 09:29.05 | annadane | (i run sid so apt show foo gives me the sid version of foo but it shouldn't be much different to stable) |
| 09:29.08 | MidTwitters | nice, thx |
| 09:29.26 | annadane | also before you install it it will tell you how much space it will take up |
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| 09:30.32 | MidTwitters | (Y) |
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| 09:31.18 | Walakea | is there still no better way to disable HDD power management than writing systemd units? (hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda) |
| 09:31.22 | annadane | except when it has no further dependencies and it just installs itself and nothing else then it assumes and installs anyway :P |
| 09:31.52 | JO45 | CIAO |
| 09:31.57 | JO45 | !LIST |
| 09:31.57 | dpkg | jo45: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 09:32.41 | annadane | "power management" generally? no idea |
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| 09:33.55 | ezname | Hey i am having troubles installing windows on a usb and on the computer, it is black screen when i boot the pc, i used disks restore for |
| 09:34.09 | Walakea | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hdparm#APM_level_reset_after_suspend |
| 09:34.19 | annadane | i'm not sure you even can install windows on a usb...? |
| 09:34.23 | ezname | for the usb, because i had a rough time finding any software that would make a bootable usb key |
| 09:34.33 | annadane | let alone the licensing problems |
| 09:34.45 | annadane | maybe i'm wrong |
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| 11:34.55 | holycow | hi |
| 11:35.28 | holycow | i want to remap my right click synaptics button to be the same as the left button but ONLY act as a right click on ctrl/alt |
| 11:35.34 | holycow | does anyone know if this is possible? |
| 11:35.55 | holycow | i'm googling up only how to swap functions around on synaptics touch pads, nothing clear on setting up modifiers |
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| 11:56.57 | __m4ch1n3__ | holycow, guess there are some commandline evdev tools in debian, know only how to do stuff like this with python3 evdev lib |
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| 11:57.52 | __m4ch1n3__ | evdev allows catch/intercept and inject input events |
| 11:58.26 | __m4ch1n3__ | have some gaming python evdev macros |
| 11:58.57 | __m4ch1n3__ | but you need to be in input group or root |
| 12:00.53 | holycow | aha! |
| 12:01.02 | holycow | okay something to google for, great! |
| 12:01.05 | holycow | thanx |
| 12:01.36 | __m4ch1n3__ | you could create a fake input device then gain exclusive access on real input device and pass everythin like it is except the for key a specific key |
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| 12:02.14 | holycow | that is an interesting idea |
| 12:02.15 | holycow | huh |
| 12:02.40 | __m4ch1n3__ | but i guess there is a easier way to do this |
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| 12:05.35 | __m4ch1n3__ | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/evemu-tools |
| 12:07.06 | holycow | totally sweet. appreciate it! |
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| 12:15.05 | kirk781 | My bluetooth headphones just aren't usable on my debian system. Even with no other device connected, whenever I am watching a video, the audio would go off sync each time my BT headphones are plugged in |
| 12:15.36 | kirk781 | The video would just stutter in the middle and poof, the sync breaks. This doesn't take place while on wired headphones |
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| 12:21.40 | __m4ch1n3__ | take wired headphones :) |
| 12:22.04 | kirk781 | Thanks for the wonder solution |
| 12:24.54 | __m4ch1n3__ | never used audio over bt, guess btphones are actually a own btaudiodevice |
| 12:25.30 | nkuttler | i never got bluetooth audio to work.. until a few weeks ago, but i run sid on the laptop.. |
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| 12:27.11 | kirk781 | The BT headphones work perfectly fine on the phone but raise hell while on the desktop |
| 12:27.17 | __m4ch1n3__ | what do you mean with audio go off sync, not syncrone to default audio output? |
| 12:27.22 | kirk781 | I think I will try them in another distro[Fedora] |
| 12:27.55 | kirk781 | The video will continue to play while the audio will begin to stutter and soon, the video stream and audio stream wouldn't be in sync |
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| 12:28.27 | kirk781 | every time I pause the video, the audio will take an extra second to stop. Same issue with all media files across SMPLayer and VLC both |
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| 12:29.17 | __m4ch1n3__ | maybe try increase audio buffer + disable default audio when watching on headphones |
| 12:29.28 | kirk781 | I will try that |
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| 12:35.49 | __m4ch1n3__ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth_headset#Connecting_works.2C_but_there_are_sound_glitches_all_the_time |
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| 12:47.58 | lologrigri | hi, I have a 32 Gb microsd card which have been plugged into a sd reader. Unfortunatly, the reader only accept 16Gb, and the microsd seems to be corrupted... Trying gparted, fdisk, dd doesn't work. The microsd card seems to be read only. Any help ? |
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| 12:49.39 | EmleyMoor | lologrigri: What is the card plugged into now? Same reader? |
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| 12:50.35 | lologrigri | EmleyMoor : It's now plugged in a usb card reader. The partition mount, but I can't modify or format ir. |
| 12:50.41 | lologrigri | it |
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| 12:53.35 | EmleyMoor | lologrigri: ... as yourself or as root? |
| 12:53.57 | lologrigri | EmleyMoor : as root. |
| 12:54.46 | lologrigri | gparted (as root) says their are some errors... |
| 12:55.50 | EmleyMoor | lologrigri: If it details them, send it to a pastebin and post the address here... may I suggest paste.debian.net for text? |
| 12:56.23 | lologrigri | EmleyMoor : okay |
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| 12:58.26 | lologrigri | EmleyMoor : This is gparted trace : http://paste.debian.net/1031561/ |
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| 12:59.58 | EmleyMoor | If you cfdisk -z /dev/sdb, can you then partition and write the table out? |
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| 13:03.23 | EmleyMoor | How about if you umount /dev/sdb1 and mkfs.vfat...? |
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| 13:03.49 | lologrigri | EmleyMoor : cfdisk says the partition has been aletred, but when leaving, their is a message : /dev/sdb : échec de fermeture du périphérique: Erreur d'entrée/sortie (closing error, io error) |
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| 13:06.05 | lologrigri | EmleyMoor : I'm trying mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb1 |
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| 13:24.05 | TrickkyTyper | wanted to say thank you to everyhitng |
| 13:24.10 | TrickkyTyper | for tting my drivers working! |
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| 13:28.29 | sadsagfjg | link for download debian 32 bit |
| 13:28.45 | sadsagfjg | Do you have that link? |
| 13:30.10 | sadsagfjg | ? |
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| 13:30.39 | sadsagfjg | . |
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| 13:32.04 | toruvinn | sadsagfjg, what's the problem, exactly? just go for ix86 not x86_64 |
| 13:32.09 | hicks | sadsagfjg: https://www.debian.org/distrib/ it's with the rest of the downloads. |
| 13:32.32 | toruvinn | yeah "i386". |
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| 13:35.08 | sadsagfjg | ok thanks |
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| 13:45.25 | lessthan0 | I got debian 9 amd64 installed successfully using UEFI and network updates but there is a huge problem with apt-get and sudo not installed |
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| 13:45.59 | lessthan0 | also the images are broken in the help file they display "?" icon |
| 13:46.06 | RoyK | lessthan0: erm - apt is there |
| 13:46.19 | lessthan0 | yes apt-cache policy apt installed |
| 13:46.35 | RoyK | lessthan0: login as root on the console or just run "su -" and type the root password you gave debian during installation |
| 13:46.36 | lessthan0 | 1.4.8 |
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| 13:46.56 | RoyK | lessthan0: it'll allow you to install sudo (which for some stupid reason isn't there by default) |
| 13:46.58 | lessthan0 | yes I used su root to get it |
| 13:47.08 | lessthan0 | su had failed |
| 13:47.17 | lessthan0 | maybe I typed it wrong |
| 13:47.27 | lessthan0 | but I'm in root prompt now |
| 13:47.36 | RoyK | ok - apt install sudo |
| 13:48.01 | Walakea | this happened to me too when i installed debian with root account |
| 13:48.29 | RoyK | is it possible not to? |
| 13:48.42 | Walakea | if you leave it blank during installation, it will ask you for initial user name and password, that will be automatically added to sudoers |
| 13:49.01 | RoyK | ok - I didn't know |
| 13:49.09 | RoyK | danke :) |
| 13:49.17 | lessthan0 | ok now it wants the cd so looks like I need to mount my usb to /media/cdrom/ |
| 13:49.30 | Walakea | i think you need to install sudo package and add yourself into sudoers file somewhere |
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| 13:50.12 | RoyK | lessthan0: better modify /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the CD - then apt update to have it download the files directly without using ninetees technology ;) |
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| 13:50.24 | lessthan0 | well right now it can't apt-get so all I can do is mount usb and try to pull it from there |
| 13:50.37 | RoyK | lessthan0: it's not networked? |
| 13:50.38 | lessthan0 | ok good idea |
| 13:50.41 | lessthan0 | it is |
| 13:50.55 | lessthan0 | I took network updates through the installer |
| 13:50.59 | RoyK | ok - then comment out that cd line in sources.list - it's old school |
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| 13:51.11 | lessthan0 | so it should not have any problems at all |
| 13:51.14 | lessthan0 | very off |
| 13:51.31 | RoyK | then apt update # etc |
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| 13:52.50 | lessthan0 | so I don't need to use nano /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 13:53.05 | RoyK | lessthan0: pastebin that file first |
| 13:53.08 | lessthan0 | just use apt update # etc? |
| 13:53.17 | lessthan0 | ok |
| 13:53.23 | RoyK | # and everything behind it is a comment ;) |
| 13:53.57 | RoyK | echo "print this line" # but this is a shellscript comment |
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| 13:57.35 | lessthan0 | https://pastebin.com/p8gDxY4p |
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| 13:58.16 | RoyK | lessthan0: comment out the line that starts with "deb cdrom:" |
| 13:58.26 | lessthan0 | it looks like a duplicate |
| 13:58.26 | RoyK | or just delete it - you won't need it |
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| 13:58.35 | lessthan0 | could just delete one of them? |
| 13:58.39 | RoyK | both |
| 13:58.39 | lessthan0 | yes ok |
| 13:58.48 | dvs | lessthan0, you can add "contrib" to the end of lines 7 and 8 too |
| 13:58.49 | RoyK | the first is already commented out |
| 13:59.00 | RoyK | dvs: and non-free, perhaps |
| 13:59.38 | RoyK | nah - don't add non-free unless you need it |
| 14:00.41 | lessthan0 | just curious, what does contrib signify? |
| 14:00.59 | RoyK | lessthan0: it's just another repo |
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| 14:01.15 | dvs | lessthan0, packages that depend on non-free packages |
| 14:01.17 | RoyK | lessthan0: shouldn't be needed - but there's a lot of nice packages there |
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| 14:01.46 | lessthan0 | good to have a non-free repo there if I need it later |
| 14:01.51 | RoyK | dvs: I guess we'll take one thing at a time here |
| 14:01.53 | lessthan0 | than to not have it at all |
| 14:01.57 | RoyK | lessthan0: just remove the cdrom line |
| 14:02.02 | lessthan0 | yup |
| 14:02.06 | RoyK | lessthan0: or put an # in front |
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| 14:02.36 | lessthan0 | installed sudo :) |
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| 14:03.02 | lessthan0 | is there a reason we use apt and not apt-get? |
| 14:03.13 | RoyK | lessthan0: apt is the new apt-get etc |
| 14:03.26 | RoyK | apt-get should work too |
| 14:03.37 | lessthan0 | i dont have it installed |
| 14:03.44 | RoyK | but it takes so horribly long time to write those extra four characters |
| 14:03.47 | lessthan0 | I guess I can install it now but not sure if I need to |
| 14:04.02 | dvs | lessthan0, you don't need to |
| 14:04.02 | RoyK | try to run it as root - should be there |
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| 14:04.27 | lessthan0 | unable to locate package apt-get |
| 14:04.31 | jelly | lessthan0: debian 9 comes with /usr/bin/apt by default, if it's not there something is wrong |
| 14:04.38 | lessthan0 | from apt policy apt-get |
| 14:04.40 | RoyK | lessthan0: the only thing apt-{get,cache} can do better than apt, is for scripting |
| 14:04.45 | jelly | apt-get is a command, not a package |
| 14:04.50 | lessthan0 | oh ok |
| 14:04.53 | RoyK | lessthan0: it's in the apt packages |
| 14:04.53 | lessthan0 | then it works good |
| 14:04.55 | RoyK | lessthan0: it's in the apt package |
| 14:05.02 | lessthan0 | apt policy apt is working |
| 14:05.02 | apt | lessthan0: what are you talking about? |
| 14:05.14 | jelly | apt: be quiet |
| 14:05.15 | apt | Ah, shuddup. |
| 14:05.15 | RoyK | lessthan0: type apt-get |
| 14:05.20 | dvs | heh |
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| 14:05.33 | jelly | I thought that bot was +q |
| 14:05.35 | lessthan0 | yes working |
| 14:05.41 | Walakea | lessthan0: apt is more user-friendly, it also shows progress bar |
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| 14:05.44 | lessthan0 | shows commands for apt-get |
| 14:06.11 | RoyK | lessthan0: now just do "apt update && apt dist-upgrade && apt autoremove" to do the final upgrade to the shiniest shit :) |
| 14:06.59 | dvs | gets a polish |
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| 14:07.51 | fajarclap | hi |
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| 14:08.11 | dvs | !next |
| 14:08.11 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 14:08.27 | lessthan0 | you guys are awesome |
| 14:08.42 | RoyK | :) |
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| 14:09.03 | OS-39717 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.07 | RoyK | lessthan0: everyone starts somewhere - try |
| 14:09.09 | RoyK | !handbook |
| 14:09.09 | dpkg | The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>. PDF at https://debian-handbook.info/download/stable/debian-handbook.pdf |
| 14:09.58 | lessthan0 | but how to reinstall the help package in debian 9? |
| 14:10.10 | lessthan0 | the gui |
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| 14:11.38 | lessthan0 | my user is not in the sudoers file |
| 14:11.51 | RoyK | lessthan0: no, you have to add it - run "visudo" |
| 14:12.15 | lessthan0 | command not found |
| 14:12.25 | lessthan0 | do I need root? |
| 14:12.32 | RoyK | lessthan0: or take some time to read the handbook - it's good and written as a good starting point |
| 14:12.59 | RoyK | obviously you need to be root - you don't want any user to say "hi, I want to be an admin" |
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| 14:14.23 | lessthan0 | it says not to edit sudoers.tmp but to edit sudoers.d instead |
| 14:15.45 | RoyK | lessthan0: please just look it up in the handbook |
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| 14:16.08 | lessthan0 | ok |
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| 14:22.17 | Hubcapp | anyone know if StarTech.com USB 3.1 Gen 2 pcie cards are compatible with Debian Stretch? |
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| 14:25.55 | rant | Hubcapp: you have a vend/prod code for em? |
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| 14:27.33 | rant | Hubcapp: looking at the ohci, uhci, ehci, xhci drivers modinfo seems they claim virtually anything |
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| 14:29.22 | rant | alias: pci:v*d*sv*sd*bc0Csc03i30* is what xhci_pci says |
| 14:29.46 | rant | so unless its something real odd, it should work |
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| 14:33.03 | Hubcapp | It's called "StarTech.com USB 3.1 PCIE Card - 5 Port - 1x USB-C - 2x USB-A - 2x IDC" on amazon, rant |
| 14:33.27 | rant | Hubcapp: yeah those things are irrelevant linux claims hardware by its vend/prod id codes |
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| 14:33.44 | Hubcapp | yup. Newegg calls it "StarTech Add-on Card" |
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| 14:33.54 | rant | Hubcapp: I'd be really surprised if ANY USB card that would fit in your system would not work |
| 14:34.00 | Hubcapp | I don't think I'm going to be lucky enough to find exact vend/prod card. |
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| 14:34.18 | Hubcapp | but I'm worried I won't get 10 Gbps speed out of the usb c port |
| 14:34.24 | Hubcapp | with linux driver |
| 14:34.25 | rant | Hubcapp: seems like linux doesnt care when it comes to he usb drivers |
| 14:34.27 | dvs | Hubcapp, read the reviews, search for "linux" |
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| 14:35.04 | Hubcapp | nobody has been that helpful yet. :( I guess I can just return it if it doesn't work. |
| 14:35.47 | rant | Hubcapp: https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2017/01/11/adding-usb-3-1-to-linux/ not same card, but similar and you got someone who actuall has used one |
| 14:36.28 | Hubcapp | yeah, I found that link, and I would buy that model, except I think it's out of stock, and I need an internal 19 pin IDC usb 3.0 connector |
| 14:36.33 | rant | Hubcapp: and has done benchmarks on it |
| 14:37.21 | rant | shrugs |
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| 14:38.14 | Hubcapp | how about the "ASMedia ASM1142" controller chip? |
| 14:38.17 | rant | a USB host controller is a fairly standard piece of hw if by some chance you found one that didnt work I'd think getting it to would be trivial |
| 14:38.19 | Hubcapp | is that enough to go on? |
| 14:39.17 | rant | its not something you'd have a real hard time getting support for.. you send a small bit of info to lkml and someone would be able to tweak the driver fairly easily |
| 14:39.33 | Hubcapp | Hm. never tried that before lol. |
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| 14:40.15 | rant | yeah well its not like a graphics card or anything fancy.. a usb host controller is fairly standardized or else it wouldnt work on anything :P |
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| 15:11.40 | Walakea | what is the difference berween xserver-...-libinput and ...-synaptics? |
| 15:12.38 | Walakea | is libinput supposed to be bigger-better-faster-stronger? |
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| 15:21.02 | rant | the synaptics is for synaptics compatible touchpads, libinput is for virtually any kind of input |
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| 15:22.28 | rant | would be like comparing a taxi driver to a human being |
| 15:22.38 | rant | only less potentially funny |
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| 15:28.24 | Walakea | i noticed that in Debian Buster with KDE, the touchpad feels less sophisticated, the movements are strictly linear and i cannot tweak it much in the settings, it is much better in Stretch with Gnome, so i am not sure if i should install synaptics |
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| 15:29.18 | rant | synaptics touchpads usually have features like palmid, muti-finger clicking, gestures..etc |
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| 15:30.06 | Walakea | i mean more like, if libinput is there to provide all synaptics has |
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| 15:31.06 | Walakea | anyway, i installed synaptics, do i need to restart the GUI session in order to notice anything? |
| 15:31.11 | rant | no it doesnt currently |
| 15:31.33 | rant | but its more low-level approach would open it up to implementation of more control via other apps |
| 15:31.58 | rant | yes you would need to restart the X server at the very least |
| 15:33.02 | P4 | Hello. Suddenly I cannot execute visudo on my Debian Stretch hosts because it complains that "/etc/sudoers.tmp: line 20: syntax error near unexpected token `('\n/etc/sudoers.tmp: line 20: `root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL'", still visudo -c reports all OK. what's going on? it's present on my several hosts already and I recall no related config changes recently. :| All my hosts include pretty identical sudoers |
| 15:33.04 | P4 | file. |
| 15:33.26 | rant | Walakea: this is one part of our wiki that is fairly current https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
| 15:34.01 | Walakea | i actually had it open, but didn't read it |
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| 15:34.36 | rant | we don't currently have support for matrix downloading to your brain on our wiki |
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| 15:35.36 | Walakea | it's 2018 |
| 15:36.12 | Walakea | i always knew Debian is too old-fashioned |
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| 15:39.45 | rant | heh |
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| 15:45.08 | heston | Hello, so I'm Stretch with Gnome and when I try changing the permissions on the contained folders it doesnt do anything. How can I investigate that? |
| 15:46.35 | Walakea | heston: depends on how much you need GUI, i found Gnome GUI to be quite weird when it comes to setting permissions, so i always rather use terminal |
| 15:47.14 | heston | yeah just used chown -R which worked easy |
| 15:47.24 | heston | but it's kind of annoying that gnome doesnt do anything |
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| 15:49.43 | heston | oh hmm, I'm pretty sure I know why |
| 15:50.11 | rant | heston: if you're stretch with gnome, I got some questions about why you suck so much :P |
| 15:50.15 | heston | the enclosed directories were owned by root and the file manager would have needed to be run in root |
| 15:50.44 | rant | heston: apt install nautilus-admin and use with care |
| 15:50.50 | heston | rant, considering how broken xfce turned out to be, I assumed gnome is the most maintained |
| 15:50.56 | heston | what exactly would you recommend |
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| 15:51.25 | rant | heston: I was just being funny you said YOU ARE Stretch with Gnome, not that you are using it |
| 15:51.37 | heston | oh |
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| 15:52.07 | rant | I personall would recommend anything over KDE and GNOME though they're both terrible |
| 15:52.32 | heston | I cant stand either |
| 15:52.47 | heston | I did enjoy Gnome while it was like MATE |
| 15:52.48 | rant | and in particular I have issues with gtk3 changes that effect even people not using gnome |
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| 15:53.10 | rant | well you can always insall MATE its one of our 7 DEs in Debian 9 |
| 15:53.17 | heston | light-locker is completely messed up on Stretch |
| 15:53.59 | heston | it's locking me out of my xfce sessions with a blank screen and the inability to change terminals |
| 15:54.41 | heston | I guess I figured is xfce was left broken, there's a good chance MATE is as well |
| 15:55.03 | rant | wth is light-locker |
| 15:55.07 | rant | ,i light-locker |
| 15:55.08 | judd | Package light-locker (x11, optional) in stretch/amd64: simple screen locker for lightDM display manager. Version: 1.7.0-3; Size: 244.4k; Installed: 664k; Homepage: https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/ |
| 15:55.21 | rant | rolls his eyes |
| 15:55.40 | rant | xscreensaver provides locking functionality |
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| 15:56.50 | heston | i mean, I'm assuming that's the problem, it's either that or lightDM itself |
| 15:56.52 | blackflow | tty locking (inability to switch them) is actually a feature in some lockers. |
| 15:57.03 | rant | ah |
| 15:57.27 | rant | I use lightdm and mate on here without any issues I'm aware of |
| 15:57.51 | rant | but if something as simple as a dm or locker are causing problems there are alternatives |
| 15:58.00 | heston | hmm, do you get a lot of flickering every time your screen locks or unlocks? |
| 15:58.15 | rant | I dont lock my screen I leave it on or I shut it off |
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| 15:58.29 | rant | I find locking very annoying |
| 15:58.32 | heston | that might be why youve never run into problems |
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| 15:58.49 | rant | if I were to lock it I'd use the old xscreensaver method |
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| 15:59.49 | rant | only time a DM ever caused me issues is many years ago KDM had a bug where if you ran it on a tty other than 7 it still sent input to tty7 thus rendering the machine unusable |
| 16:00.22 | heston | hah, why did you need it running on a different tty? |
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| 16:02.23 | heston | i tried sddm quickly in place of lightdm and as soon as I locked the screen i was stuck like mentioned |
| 16:03.15 | heston | didnt want to install gnome for just gdm |
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| 16:07.28 | rant | I was using console a lot at the time and wanted all the 1-12 usable for text mode |
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| 16:08.06 | rant | was using those things that kept logs runing in a less -S +F kinda deal on a console etc.. |
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| 16:08.25 | dob1 | I am trying to compare 2 directories using kdiff3 or meld, both of them have a .git directory inside. Either kdiff3 and meld seems to ignore this .git directory on the comparision, why? |
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| 16:09.20 | heston | oh i got you |
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| 16:10.15 | heston | dob1, maybe it treats it as a hidden directory. just a guess |
| 16:11.36 | dob1 | heston, no, I don't think so. There are other dirs with the name that start with "." (.settings for example) and I can see it in the comparision results |
| 16:12.28 | heston | are the permissions set differently on the .git dir? |
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| 16:14.21 | dob1 | heston, no |
| 16:15.02 | dob1 | i think it's because it's ".git" |
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| 16:19.12 | heston | dob1, what if you diff the .git dir directly |
| 16:20.23 | dob1 | heston, I renamed it |
| 16:20.47 | heston | that worked? |
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| 16:21.36 | dob1 | it's comparing |
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| 16:50.20 | dob1 | heston, it worked |
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| 17:03.42 | heston | dob1, hah ok. Maybe that's to protect the integrity of the .git repo. Would have to read a lot of documentation |
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| 17:10.34 | lapide_viridi | Hey there. I'm trying to install Debian to my new laptop via Live-CD on a USB stick. When I try to boot Debian from the USB stick, I get a black screen with a single underscore in the corner. However, if I try the Live CD of Ubuntu MATE, it boots just fine. Any suggestions? |
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| 17:15.39 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, yes use the netinstall, as you should. |
| 17:15.44 | r_rios | lapide_viridi: How did you burn the image? |
| 17:15.49 | r_rios | Is your computer BIOS or UEFI? |
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| 17:16.23 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, netinstall has the same result. I started with that. |
| 17:16.30 | crazybit | JPT: ping |
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| 17:17.18 | lapide_viridi | r_rios, computer is UEFI. Tried Legacy Mode, but no difference. Burned it using the Disk Image Writer on Linux, but also tried unetbootin |
| 17:17.42 | lapide_viridi | Or in my case, unotbootin |
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| 17:18.26 | lapide_viridi | Graphics card is a Intel HD Graphics 505. Can that be some kind of issue? |
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| 17:20.07 | JPT | crazybit: pong |
| 17:20.26 | crazybit | is linuxcobbler from yesterday |
| 17:20.41 | crazybit | JPT: i recovered the partition!! |
| 17:20.44 | JPT | Ah, nice! |
| 17:21.24 | JPT | Did you already think about your backup strategy for your most important data? |
| 17:21.34 | crazybit | JPT: i have backups |
| 17:21.41 | JPT | Very good |
| 17:22.08 | crazybit | JPT: daily encrpyted dedpulicated backups that go to my NAS then go on a server far far away from my house :) |
| 17:22.18 | JPT | Sounds very well planned, i like it |
| 17:22.25 | crazybit | incremental of course |
| 17:22.40 | crazybit | i lost only 11mb into lost+found |
| 17:22.59 | JPT | Are you using particular tools for creating the backups or just custom scripts with rsync? |
| 17:23.07 | crazybit | i did a backup right before trying to resize so now i can just diff and easily recover what's in lost+found |
| 17:23.13 | crazybit | JPT: borg backup |
| 17:23.36 | JPT | I guess i really need to check out that borg backup more. I already heard about it, but didn't care enough to check it out yet |
| 17:23.36 | crazybit | JPT: https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ |
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| 17:24.26 | crazybit | JPT: i was averse against it for over a year because it's a fork of attic backup that was abandoned... attic was very stable, borg was constantly breaking but now it calmed down so i migrated from attic to borg |
| 17:25.14 | crazybit | constantly breaking = constantly breaking stuff on purpose between releases (backwards incompatibility, etc.) |
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| 17:26.24 | JPT | Hmm... that may be a dealbreaker for introducing it at work. But perhaps it may help me get my stuff at home organized a bit more |
| 17:27.12 | JPT | I'll consider it when i'm done figuring out what my requirements really look like. Until then, it's a colourful mix of rsync'ing to different machines and pushing data into a nextcloud |
| 17:27.45 | __m4ch1n3__ | lapide_viridi, debian iso files are hybrid images, dont use unetbootin or any usbisowriter crap, use dd |
| 17:27.57 | JPT | Okay, since you're back to a working setup now, do you plan on re-trying that shrinking operation again? |
| 17:28.26 | __m4ch1n3__ | dd if=/path/to/isofile.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 17:28.36 | __m4ch1n3__ | assumed your usb is sdb |
| 17:29.13 | crazybit | JPT: before resizing the partition, I read a lot of docs (and even source code) on fdisk a gdisk... found out that recent versions of fdisk have the ability to wipe signatures but if using via cmd it's an option (auto/never/always) and in interactive mode it always asks Yes/No. |
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| 17:29.42 | JPT | Ah, that's good to know. So that fdisk was serious about killing your data |
| 17:29.43 | lapide_viridi | __m4ch1n3__, I'll try that. Doesn't the Disk Image Writer do the same thing? |
| 17:29.55 | __m4ch1n3__ | no |
| 17:30.15 | crazybit | JPT: also, found out from the author of gdisk that it's a very bad idea to use gdisk in the situation that i was in |
| 17:30.28 | crazybit | JPT: situation being MBR and recovering |
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| 17:30.43 | __m4ch1n3__ | outputfile is /dev/sdX without number |
| 17:30.46 | crazybit | *especially* since it was also dealing with LUKS |
| 17:31.18 | JPT | crazybit: That's good to know - i assume that i never had issues yet because i was already on proper GPT layout. |
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| 17:31.56 | crazybit | JPT: fdisk was serious about killing my LUKS signature, yes, not the whole data inside it... BUT i did backup that header signature via LUKS before proceeding just to be sure :) |
| 17:32.31 | crazybit | the LUKS header backup is also somewhat recent (past few years) so it was new to me |
| 17:33.01 | crazybit | anyway... |
| 17:33.38 | crazybit | JPT: THANK YOU very much for helping me out and giving me ideas on how to recover.... I really, really appreciate it!!!! |
| 17:33.52 | JPT | You're welcome :) |
| 17:34.42 | JPT | I'm glad you managed to keep calm and learn all about what you're going to do before doing it. If you keep going at this rate, you'll easily be able to manage your partitions manually in the future. |
| 17:34.42 | lapide_viridi | __m4ch1n3__, I used dd to burn the image to the USB stick, but I still get a black screen with a single underscore on boot |
| 17:35.36 | crazybit | JPT: that's what I intend to do from now on, do it manually |
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| 17:35.56 | crazybit | after 25 years of Linux it's about time! |
| 17:36.24 | JPT | crazybit: You may want to take a look at Arch Linux then - it might be something for you. :D |
| 17:36.42 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, can you show as the command you used for burnd the usb stick, please? |
| 17:37.07 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, sure thing. sudo dd if=debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 17:37.14 | __m4ch1n3__ | hmm, is your efi or bios configured to boot usb first? and is the iso file checksum valid? |
| 17:37.30 | crazybit | JPT: I don't want to do *everything* manually ;) I got over that many years ago.... I was one of the first Gentoo users back when there were no docs (we were writing them with drobbins creator of Gentoo as we went along) |
| 17:37.55 | crazybit | stage0 was all you had (as in, there were no stages!) |
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| 17:38.42 | lapide_viridi | __m4ch1n3__, I set it to boot from USB first, since this seems to be taking a few tries. Strange, since Ubuntu MATE has no problems at all. Checking the checksum now |
| 17:38.44 | JPT | crazybit: Sounds like a lot of fun. I tried Gentoo a while back when there were already proper stages. I was really happy when i managed to get my kernel with a fancy framebuffer tty running. Then i got a bit sad because it did not work with my video drivers. :D |
| 17:39.28 | JPT | Currently, i'm sitting on Arch Linux and - for most of the time - it's really nice. Until i'll need to mess with pulseaudio again. |
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| 17:40.20 | crazybit | JPT: yep i remember the days of custom framebuffers! |
| 17:41.02 | __m4ch1n3__ | my usb on my machine somtimes hangs after reboot, try poweroff wait a second and turn power on |
| 17:42.08 | crazybit | JPT: for rolling distro right now i prefer openSUSE Tumbleweed, because they test every release and only actually do a release if it passes the tests - plus there the awesome build service |
| 17:42.11 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, that command is right. It should boot. |
| 17:42.43 | lapide_viridi | __m4ch1n3__, I've done this a few times already. Doesn't BitTorrent automatically verify checksums? |
| 17:42.53 | crazybit | JPT: oh and root snapshots so if any update does go back (2 the past 2 years, 1 was my fault), I can rollback from grub |
| 17:43.06 | crazybit | go back = go bad |
| 17:43.13 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, that is what bugs me too. Ubuntu MATE worked at first try |
| 17:43.16 | crazybit | for servers it's pretty much 100% Debian |
| 17:43.18 | __m4ch1n3__ | ehmm you need to dl a separate checksum file |
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| 17:43.46 | JPT | crazybit: That sounds interesting. At least that snapshot-part seems to be nice. Maybe i'll give it a try. For now, i'll stay with Arch. There were very few breaking changes in the last years |
| 17:44.07 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, what laptop is that? |
| 17:44.10 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, can it be caused by the hardware? I think Ubuntu includes some nonfree packages |
| 17:44.20 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, Lenovo Ideapad 120s |
| 17:44.47 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, that would cause install issues later (like no wifi) but it should boot |
| 17:45.02 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, Intel Pentium N4200 and Intel HD Graphics 505 |
| 17:45.43 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, the model for checking for compatibility issues as a last resort |
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| 17:47.30 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, Lenovo Ideapad 120S-14IAP, model 81A5 |
| 17:47.37 | lapide_viridi | Where can I check stuff like that? |
| 17:48.10 | Brigo | there is a tool only for hackers. It' called google ;) |
| 17:48.35 | __m4ch1n3__ | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 17:49.15 | __m4ch1n3__ | or https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 17:49.18 | Toadisattva | I thought google was for the masses and bing was for the 1337 :P |
| 17:49.38 | __m4ch1n3__ | duckduckgo is for the 1337 :D |
| 17:49.46 | Toadisattva | sssshhhhh |
| 17:49.50 | Toadisattva | don't tell the plebs |
| 17:50.23 | Brigo | __m4ch1n3__, you wasted my elaborated plan XDD |
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| 17:51.08 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, there is some hints here: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=258658 |
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| 17:56.30 | lapide_viridi | Brigo, I have to run now, but I'll have a look when I'm back. Thanks for the help! |
| 17:56.49 | Brigo | lapide_viridi, np, good luck |
| 17:57.20 | __m4ch1n3__ | lapide_viridi, btw on a laptop i would recommend officiaal unofficial image with non-free firware |
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| 17:58.11 | __m4ch1n3__ | https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ |
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| 17:58.20 | lapide_viridi | __m4ch1n3__, thanks, I'll have a go at that one |
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| 17:58.27 | lapide_viridi | Official unofficial? |
| 17:59.27 | __m4ch1n3__ | ys its a official image + contrib and non-free content |
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| 18:01.00 | __m4ch1n3__ | but it has ~3GB |
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| 18:02.08 | __m4ch1n3__ | oh there is a unofficial netinstall https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 18:18.37 | crazybit | JPT: what docs / manuals do you recommend on reading for manual partitioning, especially for more odd situation like moving ext4 partition 20G over towards the end of disk |
| 18:19.53 | JPT | This is not just about an ext4 partition since this will affect your luks container, too. I guess the manpage for resize2fs is a nice start. After that, you can probably head over to cryptsetup resize |
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| 18:21.25 | JPT | I guess the arch wiki article may at least provide some rough pointers about what you can read more about: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning |
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| 18:24.19 | crazybit | yeah cryptsetup resize does not do any actual resizing just refreshes luks container information on an activated container... i never use it because it's not needed if you use luksOpen and luksClose (both refresh automatically) which is what I do just as a precaution |
| 18:25.14 | JPT | If you want to go the safe way, it is probably a good idea to first think about your current state and your desired state. Then come up with a step-by-step plan on how to do this. |
| 18:26.14 | JPT | If you want to "move" that whole partition (both beginning and end) about 20G to the end or to the beginning of the disk, you will need to split that up into more than one enlarge and shrink operation |
| 18:26.53 | JPT | The most interesting question for me right now is: Does resize2fs support shrinking a partition by moving its starting point towards the end of the disk? |
| 18:27.16 | JPT | A lot of data will probably need to be moved in that scenario, so that is probably an interesting step |
| 18:27.38 | JPT | Step 0 will still be to make sure you have all your backups ready. :) |
| 18:28.04 | johnkeates | gparted can do it, so unless it implemented something custom, I bet it is still using resize2fs meaning it can migrate data to any location you want it to |
| 18:28.14 | JPT | I'll be on a dota2 match now. :) |
| 18:28.22 | Akuw | can i use logical partitions in lvm ? |
| 18:29.29 | johnkeates | yes |
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| 18:33.00 | strive | Akuw: Generally: Partitions -> Volume Group -> Logical Volumes |
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| 18:33.20 | Akuw | yes |
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| 18:33.32 | Akuw | but i am learning and i create 2 Primary |
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| 18:38.36 | little_tommy | what is best debian channel for nvidia questions on sid? |
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| 18:39.29 | heston | says in the topic. debdobian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
| 18:39.43 | heston | sid is debian unstable |
| 18:40.10 | little_tommy | yes, I know sid is the unstable branch. |
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| 18:56.30 | Walakea | so i installed Debian Buster on a new partition along with my old Debian Stretch, i was able to dual boot once, then when i rebooted again from Buster, i can't find the Stretch entry in Grub |
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| 18:59.05 | Walakea | i guess i need to do some tweaking in some Grub configs |
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| 18:59.57 | rant | sounds like the unpredictability of testing had updated grub and left something out |
| 19:00.32 | TrickkyTyper | thanks again to everyone here getting myt nvdia card working |
| 19:00.33 | TrickkyTyper | <3 |
| 19:00.36 | TrickkyTyper | mad apprecaited. |
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| 19:13.40 | rant | is there a vm where I can install a 64bit os without virtualization extensions? Virtualbox seems to refuse to / can't do it |
| 19:13.57 | rant | for debian stretch (host) that is |
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| 19:14.10 | rant | on an amd64 arch |
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| 19:16.56 | blackflow | rant: qemu |
| 19:17.10 | rant | blackflow: and you know for a fact it can do this? |
| 19:17.17 | blackflow | but I thought virtualbox could do it without hw acccel |
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| 19:17.30 | blackflow | rant: yes, but it's gonna be slow |
| 19:17.43 | rant | blackflow: it insists its an invalid config to install a 64bit os without it enabled |
| 19:17.59 | blackflow | rant: 64bit guest on 64-bit host? |
| 19:18.06 | rant | I'm just trying to use itunes to fix ipod and win7 is all I got around |
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| 19:18.21 | rant | yes its Stretch amd64 on AMD G-Series SoC |
| 19:20.51 | rant | I could just wait and get xp I guess.. idk if any other versions had a 32bit |
| 19:20.53 | blackflow | I see. then qemu is the only one I'm aware of. And I think Xen but with paravirt guest |
| 19:21.12 | Walakea | ok, os-prober found Stretch, do i now run update-grub? |
| 19:21.48 | rant | Walakea: I'd say so thats what actually writes the bootloader |
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| 19:22.44 | Walakea | kthxbye |
| 19:25.30 | rant | is qemu still really complex to use or is there a frontend now like virtualbox has? |
| 19:26.23 | blackflow | nah, command line is very simple, I only use that, it's faster and easier then the gui lol |
| 19:26.46 | blackflow | but, I think via libvirt you can get it working with a gui. I _don't_ know that as a fact tho' |
| 19:26.48 | rant | idk I'd tried it ages ago it wasnt that simple lookin to me |
| 19:27.02 | heston | never used it but there's aqemu |
| 19:27.47 | rant | I think it may be easier to dig up XP and just install a 32bit os for this quick need of itunes |
| 19:28.07 | blackflow | rant: something off torrents :9 trollface.jpg |
| 19:28.29 | heston | are you sure you can even get a recent version of itunes that's going to be compatible with your apple hardware? |
| 19:28.34 | heston | for xp |
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| 19:28.53 | rant | its a pretty old ipod.. nano 5th gen |
| 19:29.14 | rant | just too new to make anything possible with rockbox or something linux friendly |
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| 19:29.58 | rant | and I'm fairly sure this system doesn't have vx its not just merely disabled |
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| 19:30.19 | rant | its a thin client, with a SoC |
| 19:30.50 | heston | the screenshot for aqemu looks nice |
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| 20:00.58 | rant | yeah qemu seems to be tthrowing a similar error abou kvm kernel module, which can't be loaded because its not supported by the hardware |
| 20:01.35 | Akuw | how can i see free space on my disk, i mean non partitoned space |
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| 20:03.11 | rant | though it keeps suggesting its disabled by BIOS and I'm pretty sure the CPU doesnt even have it |
| 20:03.39 | NetTerminalGene | Akuw, gparted? |
| 20:03.42 | rant | AMD GX-212JC SOC I don't think has vx |
| 20:04.27 | NetTerminalGene | Akuw, "lsblk" command maybe |
| 20:04.47 | blackflow | rant: I'm pretty sure qemu can do it, because it does emulation. I mean, qmeu can even do compeltely different ISA emulation |
| 20:05.23 | rant | yeah well I know its used for cross compiling and all kinds of stuff |
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| 20:06.22 | blackflow | did you try running qemu-system-x86_64 command? wihtout -kvm or -enable-kvm it shouldn't require vt-x |
| 20:06.25 | rant | but it wants me to choose an accelerator and kvm was selected and it cant load kvm modules cause it says operation not supported and dmesg says its disabled in bios.. I dont WANT to but I can reboot to be sure.. but I am pretty sure this doesnt have VX |
| 20:06.54 | rant | idk what the commandline was, I used aqemu.. I'll look more into it just sayin.. |
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| 20:07.47 | blackflow | rant: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/QEMU/Linux_guest run without -enable-kvm |
| 20:08.43 | heston | you can look up the chip's specs online to be sure |
| 20:09.11 | heston | just looking for AMD-V |
| 20:10.50 | rant | I tried that earlier and didnt see any mention of it |
| 20:13.07 | rant | http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Puma/AMD-G-Series%20GX-212JC.html seems to suggest it does in fact have it |
| 20:13.56 | Akuw | lsblk is ok |
| 20:13.59 | Akuw | thanks |
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| 20:14.03 | rant | idk I guess I gotta reboot and look in the bios setup.. its a PITA cause I got a lot of stuff I haven't setup to be persistent yet since I dont reboot often.. :P |
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| 20:15.41 | heston | yeah, definitely lists it |
| 20:16.09 | heston | you might need to manually load the kvm module |
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| 20:18.33 | heston | considering how slow that chip is, you probably wouldnt want to run qemu without kvm |
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| 20:21.06 | rant | thats what I'm saying I manually load it and it says operation not permitted |
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| 20:23.26 | rant | I'll have to check the bios.. the mfg may not have even included the option since its a thin client |
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| 20:31.20 | rant | yeah it was under security settings and disabled in the bios |
| 20:31.37 | rant | I never would've thought to look in security for virtualization |
| 20:32.24 | rant | this thing has some odd bios settings.. wakeup timers, ability to disable every and anything.. each usb port individually, the sound, mini pci..etc |
| 20:32.37 | pingfloyd | that's not odd |
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| 20:32.52 | rant | I never seen it before |
| 20:32.53 | johnkeates | it's normal for enterprise endpoints |
| 20:33.05 | pingfloyd | that's more like a half-way decent one |
| 20:33.33 | rant | yeah its an HP t520 thin client.. its pretty nice.. works well as a desktop/media center on debian stable |
| 20:33.37 | pingfloyd | rant: you're probably used to looking at OEM neutered bios |
| 20:33.45 | rant | yeah pretty much |
| 20:34.24 | heston | didnt it come with win10? |
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| 20:38.15 | rant | no it comes with hp thinpro.. it doesnt have but an 8gb ssd in it |
| 20:38.29 | Error451 | rant : I remember having a high end Dell that let me change just about anything except for my mother's birthday |
| 20:38.32 | rant | its not made to run an OS its made to connect to one remotely |
| 20:38.54 | Error451 | in the BIOS |
| 20:39.25 | heston | oh ok |
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| 21:01.57 | Akuw | i create a new partition is there any command to load in fstab ? |
| 21:02.04 | Akuw | or i have to do it manually |
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| 21:04.03 | rant | that said though the thing runs very well as a debian desktop and I highly recommend it |
| 21:05.03 | heston | Akuw, I believe the old partition table is locked in the kernel until you reboot. Pretty sure it will automatically be in your fstab after a reboot |
| 21:06.09 | Akuw | no |
| 21:06.19 | Akuw | i just restart and is not there |
| 21:07.35 | blackflow | uhm... you have to add it to fstab yourself. I don't know of a partitioning tool that does it for ya |
| 21:08.04 | blackflow | also, `partprobe` to reload kernel partition table |
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| 21:10.26 | Akuw | partprob is to infor the kernel new partition table but don't load in fstab |
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| 21:30.13 | blackflow | Akuw: yup. you have to add them to fstab yourself. |
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| 22:03.14 | pingfloyd | you have to edit the /etc/fstab. as far as getting the kernel to use the new partition table, run partprobe and cross your fingers. |
| 22:03.30 | pingfloyd | most of the time you end up having to reboot anyway to get it to take |
| 22:03.55 | pingfloyd | there's also partx |
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| 23:36.47 | buu | If lspci doesn't find a pcie network card, the thing is dead right |
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| 23:38.41 | hassoon | wth just happened? my laptop just went off and failed to start when i pushed the power button for tens of seconds |
| 23:38.56 | buu | battery |
| 23:39.09 | hassoon | i'm runnon on AC |
| 23:39.20 | daemoneye | hassoon: might be a power supply issue |
| 23:39.52 | daemoneye | And check your logs in case it's not a battery issue (doubtful) |
| 23:39.57 | buu | still battery! |
| 23:39.59 | hassoon | daemoneye: this scared me, i couldn't restart the machine for like a minute |
| 23:40.20 | daemoneye | sounds like a power issue; battery or AC |
| 23:40.23 | hassoon | daemoneye: dmesg i guess ? |
| 23:40.35 | daemoneye | check your hardware first |
| 23:40.49 | hassoon | i'm running on AC/battery anyway |
| 23:40.53 | hassoon | both at once |
| 23:41.45 | daemoneye | hassoon: I am strongly agreeing with buu here. Test power issues first. Easier to figure out |
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| 23:48.11 | heston | rant, did qemu end up working for you? |
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| 23:49.14 | heston | hassoon, maybe it over heated |
| 23:49.23 | grayclaw | tge |
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| 23:52.07 | hassoon | heston: i touched the lower side of the laptop, it felt not critically hot |
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| 23:54.00 | heston | you're going to have to troubleshoot the hardware, keep an eye on logs and temps |
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| 23:57.21 | rant | heston: I removed it after I fixed the vt-x thing |
| 23:58.15 | heston | oh and just went with virtualbox? |
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| 23:58.45 | rant | yep |
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| 23:59.40 | rant | got years of experience with vbox know how to do obscure crap like make a vmdk that'll access a raw disk and such.. why go using something I dont know crap about |