| 00:01.06 | darkrocket | annadane, computer completely flipped out, I got the uh oh something went wrong error, however I managed my way through some google magic to get back to gui, but still no secondary monitor, what info needs to be provided for help, tia |
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| 00:02.47 | annadane | put on paste.debian.net your xorg log i guess, /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 00:02.51 | annadane | or .xsession-errors |
| 00:03.00 | annadane | maybe also dmesg? |
| 00:03.05 | annadane | i'm not being terribly helpful |
| 00:03.14 | darkrocket | lol, ok |
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| 00:05.13 | darkrocket | annadane, xorg log, http://paste.debian.net/1035603/ |
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| 00:08.10 | darkrocket | annadane, dmesg, http://paste.debian.net/1035604/ |
| 00:09.10 | hxmuller | mccordingley: try booting the box with nomodeset added to the kernel boot parameters |
| 00:09.24 | hxmuller | mcordingley: ^^^ |
| 00:09.53 | darkrocket | hxmuller, excuse my ignorance, how would one do so? |
| 00:10.54 | hxmuller | once you get to grub prompt, type e for edit then add to the linux line |
| 00:11.09 | darkrocket | ok ty |
| 00:11.26 | hxmuller | but he's going to have to add it to /etc/default/grub and run update-grub, because he's sshing into the box |
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| 00:17.32 | darkrocket | hxmuller, should this have fixed the issue with not having the secondary monitor not being recognized? |
| 00:19.46 | hxmuller | darkrocket: no, I am checking to see if he gets output to his monitor through efifb instead of nouveau |
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| 00:20.56 | darkrocket | hxmuller, maybe I jumped into another convo, Im in need of help with my monitors..lol |
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| 01:23.19 | annadane | are there any packages for more mouse themes in xfce? |
| 01:24.15 | annadane | wonder if i could install the KDE mouses, i always liked those |
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| 01:25.04 | rant | annadane: xfce uses gtk, https://www.xfce-look.org/browse/cat/107/ |
| 01:26.03 | ecbrown | debian stable, fresh kde install. i keep getting an annoying popup that says "authentication is required to refresh packages" every few minutes. any ideas how to fix? |
| 01:29.05 | ecbrown | "Vendor The PackageKit System" |
| 01:29.19 | ecbrown | s/system/project |
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| 01:36.10 | rant | ecbrown: I have no idea, but you can either check KPackagekit/Apper or something like that PackageKit by the look of it is a distro-agnostic frontend for installing software and is a new freedesktop effort to simplify installing of software and make it integrate with various Dekstop Environments |
| 01:37.12 | rant | ecbrown: I'm willing to bet it uses polkit for auth and depending on what your aim is I may be able to offer limited help with things like removing packagekit if you dont want it, or configuring polkit to allow your user passwordless access |
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| 01:37.34 | giaco | hello! |
| 01:37.49 | ecbrown | rant: this makes sense. let me see what if i can do something with your suggestions |
| 01:39.43 | giaco | Could you please help me overcoming an issue while trying to ./debootstrap --arch=mipsel buster /mnt/hdd/debian/root http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ ? |
| 01:39.49 | rant | ecbrown: also note this support channel is largely long time experienced debian users as this is a legacy support channel, Debian officially moved to the OFTC network.. because of this fact, not many of us use the more bloated/polished DEs and can't support them very well. there are specific channels on OFTC for debian-gnome, debian-kde, etc where you could get more specific help with those |
| 01:40.16 | giaco | Problem is it is failing to download every single package |
| 01:40.19 | rant | giaco: possibly first you gotta tell us what the issue IS |
| 01:40.39 | giaco | rant: calm down please, I was writing |
| 01:40.39 | ecbrown | rant: right, thanks for the info |
| 01:40.43 | rant | giaco: failing how? 404? Connection timed out? |
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| 01:41.23 | rant | giaco: you were indeed, but you asked a useless question first. :P you could've just been more specific to begin with :P |
| 01:41.29 | giaco | rant: I: Checking component main on http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian... I: Retrieving libacl1 2.2.52-3+b1 I: Validating libacl1 2.2.52-3+b1 W: Retrying failed download of http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/pool main/a/acl/libacl1_2.2.52-3+b1_mipsel.deb |
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| 01:42.20 | rant | giaco: have you tried a different mirror? like http://deb.debian.org/debian/ ? |
| 01:43.27 | giaco | rant: yes, I've used http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian first, same issue. Give me a sec I'll try with that one |
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| 01:44.19 | rant | giaco: well we've long since told peopl to stop using those ftp.foo.debian.org mirrors is why I mention it |
| 01:46.25 | giaco | ... validating packages ... blah blah ... resolving dependencies of [required|base] packages .... blah blah ... got list of dependencies .... while :; retrying ... validating .... Couldn't download package libacl1 (ver 2.2.52-3+b1 arch mipsel) ... |
| 01:47.27 | giaco | rant: if I copy the very same line echoed by the script and I do wget http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/acl/libacl1_2.2.52-3+b1_mipsel.deb in the very same terminal, the file gets downloaded |
| 01:47.54 | rant | yeah I was just about to say its probably the verifying that is the problem |
| 01:49.11 | giaco | rant: please consider that I am trying to bootstrap in hard mode from a difficult environment. I had to cross compile pkgdetails manually for mips and wget is the busybox one |
| 01:49.47 | rant | giaco: yeah, its probably failing to verify the signature of the packages.. |
| 01:50.15 | giaco | also bash is the busybox one |
| 01:50.55 | giaco | rant: how can I help debootstrap to overcome this? Providing a real mips bash? Real wget? |
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| 01:51.34 | rant | giaco: you could try with --verbose to get more info or with some of the options to disable the checking if you dont care about verifying the packages |
| 01:52.08 | rant | giaco: we dont know without knowing what exactly the problem is. you either gotta use trial and error or get more information |
| 01:52.32 | rant | there are several debootstrap options to disable checking of various signatures/certificates |
| 01:52.51 | rant | if using those works, you know that was the problem.. else you can ask for more verbosity to figure out whats going on |
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| 01:52.53 | giaco | rant: ok, give me a second I have debootstrap bash code under inspection |
| 01:53.15 | rant | giaco: are you using debootstrap on a Debian Stretch system? |
| 01:53.35 | giaco | rant: no |
| 01:54.32 | rant | well if you are using testing/unstable 1) you're in the wrong channel, 2) its likely you do have bugs in debootstrap, and 3) you should've checked the BTS and known how to resolve these sorts of issues like using a --verbose option |
| 01:54.56 | rant | if you're not using Debian then you're just plain in the wrong channel :P |
| 01:55.46 | rant | but being that you can hit the mirror and d/l the package manualy and it says verifying and retrying.. that the problem is related to verifying the packages not downloading them |
| 01:56.04 | giaco | rant: 1) this bug does is not dependent on the debian version pulled down from debootstrap, it is not pulling down anything 2) not a debootstrapbug 3) sure, but it seemes to me an uncommon problem |
| 01:56.28 | rant | no the problem is on the host running debootstrap |
| 01:56.35 | rant | and we support Debian stable here.. |
| 01:57.02 | rant | so if you're not running deboostrap provided by and run on a Debian stable, then its not really within the scope of this channel |
| 01:58.10 | giaco | rant: ok. I can turn debootstrap to pull debian stable, but I canno do the second part. So thank you for your support, bothering no more |
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| 02:05.33 | Heston | rant, did ya get that luks partition working? |
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| 02:05.59 | rant | Heston: when you left, that freed me up to procrastinate on it :P |
| 02:06.19 | rant | right now I'm eating a frosty from wendy's still wondering the same thing myself |
| 02:06.27 | Heston | you're quite the procrastinator eh |
| 02:07.25 | rant | have been ever since I heard the great contemporary philosopher Ellen Degeneres say "procrastinate now, or you'll never get around to it" and I thought . o O (hmm, that makes sense..) |
| 02:09.25 | rant | I already had the chroot open in my terminal with everything bind mouted hours ago.. I just never edited /etc/default/grub and ran grub-install /dev/sdc and rebooted :P |
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| 02:09.51 | Heston | ah well cmon, it'll take 2 minutes |
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| 02:15.39 | mcordingley | hxmuller: Just got back. Will attempt a nomodeset. |
| 02:20.37 | mcordingley | Hmm, stuck on a flashing caret instead of watching the boot process. |
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| 02:20.47 | mcordingley | Curiously, I'm still able to SSH in. |
| 02:22.20 | mcordingley | dmesg output looks fine, aside from FS-Cache complaining about a duplicate cookie at the end. |
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| 02:24.00 | rant | a duplicate cookie is nothing to complain about.. just eat it.. or share :P |
| 02:25.44 | giaco | rant: FYI debootstrap has no option to skip checksum verification, just one to skip the repository gpg key one |
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| 02:30.43 | rant | giaco: it also has an option to skip certificates |
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| 02:35.31 | rant | Heston: it didn't work.. I figured out I can just chmod -x the files in /etc/grub.d/ to keep it from putting the other system in the bootloader i.e. chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober and putting the cryptdevice thing in /etc/default/grub results in it adding that to the menu entries, but it still gives up searching for root and drops me in initramfs saying it can't find any partition with that UUID |
| 02:36.17 | Heston | rant, hmm and did you try swapping the UUIDs for root and cryptodevice? |
| 02:36.23 | rant | I dont think double checking the UUID for root is necessary as grub is auto-detecting that.. so I guess I need to read up on that cryptroot param and whatever stuff is done in initrd for unlocking the cryptroot |
| 02:37.04 | rant | Heston: no, grub automatically sets root= to the actual rootfs. I just added the cryptsetup=/dev/disk..blah..:root to commandline linux in /etc/default/grub |
| 02:37.25 | rant | I didn't copy/paste your suggestion just added that one part to the commandline in that config |
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| 02:39.40 | mcordingley | hxmuller: Xorg.0.log tells me "Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices" |
| 02:40.08 | rant | anything in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" in /etc/default/grub gets added by any entries triggered in /etc/grub.d/10_linux to the command line so I just added the cryptdev thing there |
| 02:40.25 | rant | with the uuid of the luks device and :root |
| 02:40.33 | Heston | hmm |
| 02:41.19 | rant | I guess that cryptdevice thing is in the kernel documentation |
| 02:41.21 | rant | I'll have to go read up on it |
| 02:42.36 | Heston | and you have the dm-crypt kernel module loaded? |
| 02:42.56 | rant | being that luks is a kernel thing and these are kernel params, and initrd is a kernel thing I'd think this is all a kernel documentation issue |
| 02:43.11 | rant | not unless its enabled by default in debian kernel's initrd |
| 02:43.27 | rant | I did no modification of the stock stretch initrd |
| 02:43.36 | Heston | everytime ive installed, i had to manually select it |
| 02:44.07 | Heston | but that may have been for the installer only |
| 02:44.08 | rant | this install was done via deboostrap.. it was all manual |
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| 02:44.19 | rant | idk where you'd have "selected" it |
| 02:44.22 | rant | but I' |
| 02:44.34 | rant | I'm sure I wouldnt have had that step as it was a manual install |
| 02:44.41 | Heston | i do expert graphical installs |
| 02:44.55 | rant | idk if it was perhaps part of the debconf for initramfs-tools or what |
| 02:44.58 | giaco | rant: I've overcome the verification problem, but I've just found out that any static mipsel binary downloaded from debian stable repository returns "illegal instruction" on my mipsel soc. But it I cross compile manually some C code using mipsel-linux-gnu-gcc from a debian stable machine it works |
| 02:45.00 | Heston | but anyways, id just check for that kernel module |
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| 02:46.21 | rant | giaco: thats rather odd.. you should probably head over to OFTC as freenode only has this channel which is a legacy channel of Debian stable users supporting debian stable.. the devs and all the extra channels listed on debian.org are now on OFTC where you're likely to get more help |
| 02:47.00 | rant | Heston: yeah I have no idea how to do that.. I'll have to look into it.. I always built my kernels without initrd or used the debian ones as-is I know nothing about working with initrd |
| 02:47.50 | Heston | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.49 | Heston | yeah I don't have it loaded by default on my system |
| 02:49.04 | rant | I dont think you know what we're talking about here |
| 02:49.23 | rant | the issue is the rootfs is not being found.. which means we're still in initrd before a pivot_root |
| 02:49.26 | rant | there is no lsmod |
| 02:49.41 | rant | initramfs is a cramfs image loaded before any of that even exists |
| 02:49.52 | giaco | rant: thank you |
| 02:51.00 | Heston | you'd be checking in a initramfs rescue shell |
| 02:51.08 | Heston | https://wiki.debian.org/CryptsetupDebug |
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| 02:58.48 | rant | hmm lemme try that.. I didnt think you could actually make changes to initrd from there.. figured Id want to mount it from a running system to change it |
| 02:59.35 | rant | but as I said my knowledge of initrd is elementary.. I always built my own kernels without support for it and this is the first time I've ever used a cryptroot which requires initrd afaik |
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| 03:01.58 | Heston | can almost guarantee you dont have dm-crypt loaded |
| 03:04.19 | rant | no it wasn't loaded, cryptd, aesni..etc were but not dm-crypt |
| 03:05.51 | rant | not sure how to change that offhand but thats the problem I guess |
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| 03:09.27 | rant | I guess I add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules then dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools and it'll rebuild |
| 03:11.49 | rant | hmm I guess I could just run update-initramfs too |
| 03:13.05 | rant | yeah that worked I believe cause I didnt bind /dev /proc and /sys and got warnings about it not being able to find the UUID for the luks device when rebuilding the initramfs |
| 03:19.09 | rant | Heston: http://paste.debian.net/1035612/ |
| 03:19.41 | rant | thats where I am at right now, not sure about that.. it seems more like warnings, so it may or may not be bootable right now :P |
| 03:20.51 | rant | seems I deleted the line where I actually mounted the cryptroot on /mnt there :P |
| 03:22.16 | Heston | oh, so you are able to actually mount it |
| 03:23.33 | rant | yeah from my other install :P |
| 03:23.51 | rant | I got this Stretch on the SSD on /dev/sda |
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| 03:24.19 | rant | the install I'm working on is on the SATA HDD hooked up via USB on /dev/sdc |
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| 03:29.48 | Heston | rant, I'm really not familiar with initramfs |
| 03:30.54 | Heston | but if you're successfully able to mount it, then there's an incorrect line being passed |
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| 03:37.40 | rant | feels like a narcolyptic indomnisv |
| 03:38.09 | rant | insomniac* |
| 03:38.59 | Heston | the question is, what's the exact command generating `cryptsetup: WARNING: Invalid source device UUID="6eb96dda-efd3-40df-890b-afd3b87bcca8"` |
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| 03:40.19 | rant | idk.. whatever update-initramfs -u does :P |
| 03:40.43 | doubledutch | Heston: is AUFS involved? |
| 03:44.00 | Heston | not that I'm aware |
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| 04:01.14 | rant | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.42 | rant | idk what f'n crackpipe debian devs were smoking when they made lvm have anything to do with luks |
| 04:02.44 | rant | this is part of the reason why I was doing this manually cause the debian installers idea of crypto is convoluted |
| 04:04.06 | rant | why not just load ntfskern and truecrypt too while we're at it.. |
| 04:04.46 | rant | there is no lvm on my system so no need for lvm to be available |
| 04:05.00 | rant | its just a damn crypt container with ext4 inside |
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| 04:08.41 | Heston | maybe that's how it makes the encrypted partition a container? How did you create the encrypted partition in the first place |
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| 04:09.32 | rant | like a normal non-crack-smoking-individual with cryptsetup luksFormat :P |
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| 04:11.13 | COOurb | hi |
| 04:11.23 | COOurb | I have problem with wifi configuration |
| 04:11.28 | doubledutch | !ask |
| 04:11.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:11.35 | COOurb | I don't use network-manager oe wicd |
| 04:11.58 | doubledutch | COOurb: you are using wicd? What are you trying and what are you getting? |
| 04:12.04 | COOurb | nope |
| 04:12.19 | COOurb | ok, I added these strings to interfaces |
| 04:12.20 | COOurb | auto wlx88d7f6a3c9fc |
| 04:12.21 | COOurb | iface wlx88d7f6a3c9fc inet dhcp |
| 04:12.21 | COOurb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.21 | COOurb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:12.24 | rant | heh |
| 04:12.39 | doubledutch | Have you tried the package ceni |
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| 04:12.43 | COOurb | damn |
| 04:12.48 | rant | you can both stop |
| 04:12.56 | doubledutch | Have you tried the package ceni? |
| 04:13.23 | COOurb | Can't fint it |
| 04:13.23 | doubledutch | rant: !ask is a popular function used to educate the general chat. I am not spamming, rather actively attempting to support COOurb |
| 04:14.13 | rant | I'm not talking about that I'm talking about the poll of using another package |
| 04:14.18 | COOurb | So, i added wpa-ssid and wpa-psk in interfaces file |
| 04:14.40 | rant | they obviously wanna use wpasupplicat via interfaces |
| 04:14.50 | doubledutch | i asked if he has tried it because wpasupp isnt naming his interface |
| 04:15.04 | doubledutch | I will stop, all yours rant |
| 04:16.00 | rant | yes I am half asleep and dealing with crazy on this end but I already saw whats wrong here |
| 04:16.04 | COOurb | wifi adapter is supported and firmware is installed |
| 04:16.08 | imp | hello there. Seems debian isn't able to find my local windows partition during update-grub any ideas in how to force it? |
| 04:16.16 | noahmg123 | This may not be a debian issue, but, all of a sudden, geolocation is being screwy. GNOME, when set to automatic time-zone it setting my time zone to CDT (I'm in EST) and the Google Maps website has put me smack dab in the middle of the United States, or a few miles off of where I actually am. This has never happened before. |
| 04:16.19 | rant | yes but your commands in interfaces are wrong |
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| 04:16.33 | rant | imp: is os-prober installed? |
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| 04:16.54 | imp | yes. |
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| 04:17.06 | Heston | rant, heh well it looks like install lvm will fix it |
| 04:17.19 | Heston | installing |
| 04:17.21 | rant | Heston: yes but it shouldnt be required as I'm not using lvm |
| 04:17.29 | Heston | idk man |
| 04:17.44 | COOurb | my commands are wrong? |
| 04:18.10 | COOurb | I used this as reference https://wiki.debian.org/ru/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 04:18.14 | rant | COOurb: yes if you put you actuall password on the wpa-psk line, then yes |
| 04:18.38 | imp | is a nvme device. not sd* one. |
| 04:18.50 | COOurb | So what should I put there and where should i put actuall password? |
| 04:19.13 | rant | COOurb: you put the actual password into wpa_supplicant and it gives you the psk to put there |
| 04:19.35 | rant | COOurb: run wpa_passphrase myssid my_very_secret_passphrase |
| 04:19.46 | rant | and it will generate the psk to put in the interfaces file |
| 04:19.53 | COOurb | sec, need to check if it installed |
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| 04:21.36 | Heston | rant, looks like it might be a new kernel bug |
| 04:22.06 | COOurb | it doesn't know "wpa" |
| 04:22.17 | Heston | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-hwe/+bug/1721618 |
| 04:23.59 | rant | Heston: idk, could be.. but lvm shouldnt be required to merely use cryptsetup/luks because normal people don't use lvm with that :P |
| 04:24.27 | rant | COOurb: wpa_passphrase there is an underscore there |
| 04:24.38 | COOurb | o, now i see |
| 04:24.50 | rant | its part of wpa_supplicant |
| 04:25.05 | rant | which for w/e reason the assclown made all the tools have an underscore to confuse people :P |
| 04:25.09 | Heston | rant, that's what's being implied. Older kernels are working just find without lvm |
| 04:25.26 | Heston | fine* |
| 04:25.48 | rant | Heston: well I guess we know we can work around it by unnecessarily installing lvm.. unless its been fixed then just updating to stretch-backports kernel may resolve it |
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| 04:27.09 | Heston | I doubt it's fixed, only confirmed in April, 2018 |
| 04:27.36 | rant | Heston: heh, you been using linux only since then? Thats like 10 years ago in FOSS dev time |
| 04:30.00 | COOurb | So should I use quotes around ssid? |
| 04:30.00 | rant | Heston: there were 5 linux kernel revisions released in the month of April 2018 alone.. and that was months ago |
| 04:30.33 | Heston | yeah but debian stable wouldnt be using those |
| 04:30.41 | rant | COOurb: is your ssid just alphanumeric without spaces? if so, then its not necessary, if it has anyting like spaces or dashes that would be parsed by bash, then yes, absolutely |
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| 04:30.59 | COOurb | Ahen I run "ifup wifistuff" it prints several times "DHCPDISCOVER on wlx88d7f6a3c9fc to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5" |
| 04:31.22 | COOurb | then "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." |
| 04:31.40 | COOurb | With wicd it saw all access points |
| 04:31.54 | COOurb | Also, my wifi-router is hidden |
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| 04:32.35 | rant | COOurb: do you have anything against using network-manager? |
| 04:33.30 | rant | because I been down this road in the last year.. wicd will screw everything up.. make you drop your connection frequently etc... interfaces / wpa_supplicant are less user friendly but will be more stable once you GET connected but will have problems actually getting connected, but network-manager just f'n works |
| 04:33.47 | rant | network-manager > interfaces > wicd |
| 04:33.49 | COOurb | Doesn it provide any config file where I can manually configure all stuff i need? |
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| 04:34.01 | rant | such as? |
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| 04:34.18 | COOurb | such as interfaces |
| 04:34.34 | rant | idk what you mean.. |
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| 04:35.01 | rant | if you're using dhcp doesnt seem like you need to configure anything the d and c in there stand for dynamic and configuration |
| 04:35.02 | COOurb | Sometimes i won't be able to use GUI |
| 04:35.06 | rant | which means it configures itself |
| 04:35.10 | COOurb | nope |
| 04:35.13 | rant | network-manager has a cli |
| 04:35.16 | COOurb | not only DHCP |
| 04:35.21 | rant | ,i nmcli |
| 04:35.22 | judd | No package named 'nmcli' was found in stretch/amd64. |
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| 04:36.24 | rant | erm nmcli is part of the network-manager package |
| 04:36.37 | rant | and it can do static or dynamic configuration |
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| 04:36.56 | rant | and save connections on a per network basis |
| 04:37.22 | rant | and even have priority for connections when multiple are in range, auto or manual connect..etc |
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| 04:37.36 | rant | otherwise you gotta go through all this manually and debug |
| 04:37.52 | COOurb | k, will try this stuff. didn't know, but will check it out |
| 04:37.58 | rant | first associate with iwconfig, wpa_supplicant |
| 04:38.06 | rant | then dhclient..etc |
| 04:39.11 | rant | in my personal experience nm works the best so I use that |
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| 04:51.04 | noahmg123 | Gnome's "Auto Time Zone" feature corrects to wrong time zone |
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| 05:08.45 | Neo | hey everyone if I'm a user (uid/gid 1000) and a member of a group (991) and a folder's permissions are (3775/drwxrwsr-t) - 991:991, why can't I (1000) add files/folders to said directory? |
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| 05:15.01 | SwedeMike | Neo: hm, I'm a bit rusty here and reading up on this didn't help much, but can you try to do chmod g+S on the directory and see if this yields the desired results? |
| 05:15.21 | SwedeMike | note the capital S |
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| 05:16.16 | SwedeMike | Neo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid is probably a good place to look for to understand this |
| 05:16.35 | Neo | hmm |
| 05:17.29 | Neo | I was attempting to use the "setgid" stickybit, but that's not really working |
| 05:28.05 | SwedeMike | Neo: did you try my suggestion? |
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| 05:36.19 | COOurb | even with network-manager I can't connect |
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