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| 01:09.23 | aloo_shu | Gigglebyte: with some luck, you find documentation by either a) typing man gpaste in a terminal, or b) looking in /usr/share/docs/gpaste/ |
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| 01:16.50 | michael2 | does debian have any docs on sending emails from cron jobs? |
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| 01:20.04 | themill | michael2: what documentation do you need? cron sends to the already configured MTA on the machine |
| 01:20.24 | michael2 | themill: an introductory doc |
| 01:21.27 | themill | There's nothing really to introduce -- what are you stuck on? what have you already done? |
| 01:21.43 | michael2 | themill: e.g. that answers all the basic questions, how does cron send ? which local user does it send as? how do you configure alias rewrites? troubleshooting when things go wrong etc... |
| 01:22.03 | themill | all those things are the MTA's responsibility not cron's |
| 01:22.46 | themill | The only thing cron does is (optionally) select who gets mailed from a crontab; that's the MAILTO variable in crontab(5). |
| 01:22.56 | michael2 | themill: my question is: "how is the MTA invoked by cron" |
| 01:23.25 | themill | same way any process calls the local MTA -- it runs sendmail |
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| 01:24.05 | michael2 | right, but cron sends argument to send mail when it calls it |
| 01:24.21 | michael2 | so cron will run something equivalent to: |
| 01:25.35 | michael2 | echo "Subject: ... \ndisk almost full" | /usr/sbin/sendmail -u root -iab admin |
| 01:29.20 | themill | I think you're assuming it is much more sophisticated than it is |
| 01:30.39 | themill | (it doesn't need to set the sending user, it does need to be compatible with every MTA out there and so doesn't use uncommon options) |
| 01:30.50 | michael2 | ok, but I need that info to be able to manage - I can write a wrapper - but I would have thought debian would have docs on cron at least |
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| 01:32.32 | rwp | michael2, 'man cron', 'man crontab', 'man 5 crontab' ?? |
| 01:33.12 | themill | michael2: there are excellent docs for cron but there isn't documentation for things that don't exist. What are you *really* trying to achieve here. |
| 01:34.19 | michael2 | rwp: thanks `man cron' has a sentence about the MAILTO: - but not really how to use |
| 01:34.23 | michael2 | it |
| 01:35.19 | michael2 | themill: Im trying to setup general email capabilities on a machine - in a way that is reliable |
| 01:35.34 | themill | what does cron have to do with general email capabilities? |
| 01:35.55 | michael2 | cron will be a user of that email capability |
| 01:36.11 | michael2 | so Im trying to link it all together |
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| 01:36.27 | themill | it's the MTA's job to do anything fancy, not cron's |
| 01:37.41 | rwp | Any output from cron will be mailed to the user. That's all that it is doing. Nothing fancy. |
| 01:37.52 | themill | there's nothing to do then |
| 01:38.11 | rwp | Back in the day that was enough. But in today's world where only us old-school folks have local email addresses. The new kids all use Gmail and the like. |
| 01:38.20 | rwp | And the system may not have a working MTA even installed. |
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| 01:38.37 | michael2 | say there is no email capability on the system - what happens when a cron outputs to stdout? it goes into user specific mailbox doesnt it? |
| 01:38.48 | rwp | Therefore worst case, install postfix, configure it for local delivery only, and look the result in /var/mail/$(whomami). I suggest 'mutt' as the best mailer. |
| 01:38.55 | themill | ,i dma |
| 01:38.56 | judd | Package dma (mail, optional) in stretch/amd64: lightweight mail transport agent. Version: 0.11-1+b1; Size: 49.8k; Installed: 148k; Homepage: https://github.com/corecode/dma |
| 01:39.26 | michael2 | right /var/mail/user... isn't that where messages go? |
| 01:39.27 | themill | michael2: if /usr/sbin/sendmail doesn't exist, cron just shrugs its shoulders and keeps going |
| 01:39.33 | rwp | If there is no MTA then I imagine that cron's output would be lost. Discarded. I would guess. With an error message to the syslog. |
| 01:39.58 | themill | cron recommends mail-transport-agent for a reason |
| 01:40.46 | themill | it can be something trivial like nullmailer or dma etc, but it relies on something else to deliver that mail |
| 01:41.18 | michael2 | so if a cron job outputs something and there is no sendmail available its just goes nowhere? |
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| 01:48.07 | rwp | Likely it goes nowhere. Because where would it go? |
| 01:48.27 | rwp | There is no magic. There is code. If there is no code there it can't magically do something there is no code to do. |
| 01:49.03 | rwp | If one wants mail to be sent then one needs to install something that will transport mail. |
| 01:49.31 | rwp | Conversely there are people who do not want mail sent and will intentionally avoid installing a mail transport |
| 01:49.42 | rwp | agent. Installing one by default prevents them from doing that they want. |
| 01:49.43 | michael2 | so what would send those messages into /var/spool|mail then? |
| 01:49.57 | themill | an MTA that delivers to /var/mail/ |
| 01:50.06 | rwp | The mail transport agent (MTA) such as postfix delivers mail to /var/mail/$USER. |
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| 01:51.47 | michael2 | that happens when the email is addressed with an email like "tonytheadmin" - and not a qualified email like "tonytheadmin@foomail.com" - is that right? |
| 01:52.23 | michael2 | which I think is what cron does - it sets ancient UNIX email addresses |
| 01:53.26 | michael2 | so - if cron is configured to send an email - cron will call /usr/sbin/sendmail -F root tonytheadmin plus some options? |
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| 01:56.57 | themill | that's up to the MTA to deal with |
| 01:57.31 | michael2 | or does cron try to email by default? |
| 01:57.33 | themill | if you want to have cron send to a specific email address, set that using MAILTO as documented. |
| 01:57.40 | michael2 | yes I think thats it - the MI |
| 01:57.59 | michael2 | the MAILTO var only determines who cron will try send it to |
| 01:58.06 | themill | cron just gives whatever you specify to the MTA |
| 01:58.17 | themill | yes |
| 01:59.16 | michael2 | hmm, how can I test this? |
| 01:59.57 | michael2 | I can put a wrapper script in /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 02:00.19 | michael2 | setup a test cron job and make it out put something |
| 02:00.31 | themill | what needs testing? |
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| 05:15.03 | mzf | the verion of column command installed in debian is different from what is in here: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/column.1.html |
| 05:15.16 | mzf | where can i find that version? |
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| 05:17.00 | jelly | mzf: in very latest util-linux source probably |
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| 05:22.20 | mzf | jelly: the debian version of column comes from "bsdmainutils" package and not "util-linux" |
| 05:22.54 | mzf | jelly: seens that in debian the util-linux does not have any column in it? |
| 05:23.01 | jelly | that is right, and that's why you want to look at and build it from source |
| 05:23.27 | mzf | thanks |
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| 05:54.31 | jelly | hi there, again |
| 05:54.33 | jelly | !ask |
| 05:54.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 05:55.27 | jelly | gsksgk24, gkgk: it works. You can make a custom own channel for testing things instead of here. |
| 05:58.06 | jelly | just /join ##gkgktests |
| 06:01.51 | jelly | gkgk, alpsgtoop, gkgk1, gsksgk24: instead of putting 4 clients in a well known channel like #debian and chatting here, do your testing in a separate own temporary channel, so I don't have to quiet you when people with actual debian questions wake up |
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| 07:09.14 | nrubsig | Where does Linux have the DTS (Device Tree) config file ? |
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| 07:45.20 | catbeard | hey there, so i have an issue with .ssh/config and ed25519 |
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| 07:46.17 | catbeard | https://hastebin.com/odokosakuk.nginx |
| 07:46.25 | catbeard | not sure why it named it .nginx lol |
| 07:47.03 | catbeard | the pubkey is there, works for another account |
| 07:47.12 | catbeard | or i wouldn't be on irc |
| 07:48.25 | catbeard | server is running 8.10 jessie |
| 07:49.12 | catbeard | openssh-server 6.7p1-5+deb8u4 |
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| 07:49.36 | catbeard | amd64 |
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| 07:51.57 | catbeard | this is my ~/.ssh/config - https://hastebin.com/ozudonipuq.nginx |
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| 07:58.35 | catbeard | it's on a t1.micro at ec2 |
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| 08:13.25 | jelly | catbeard: what does /var/log/auth.log on the remote server say? |
| 08:14.10 | catbeard | jelly: https://hastebin.com/odokosakuk.nginx |
| 08:14.18 | catbeard | redacted a bit |
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| 08:16.53 | jelly | catbeard: is the relevant public key present in /home/admin/.ssh/authorized_keys or /home/admin/.ssh/authorized_keys2 at all? |
| 08:17.05 | catbeard | yes, and yes |
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| 08:17.37 | jelly | which one? |
| 08:17.43 | catbeard | both |
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| 08:18.11 | catbeard | i had authorized_keys, but debug2 complained about not being able to find authorized_keys2 |
| 08:18.14 | jelly | your debug seems to show only ssh-rsa keys in there. |
| 08:18.18 | catbeard | so i cp -p |
| 08:18.35 | catbeard | so IdentityFile doing nothing? |
| 08:18.41 | jelly | (there's no need to have both, authorized_keys2 is only checked for backward compatibility) |
| 08:18.48 | catbeard | i also have an ssh-agent (keychain) running |
| 08:18.52 | catbeard | and in .zshrc |
| 08:19.11 | catbeard | is that possibly overwriting the key selection? |
| 08:19.42 | jelly | catbeard: does the line with ssh-ed25519 in ~admin/.ssh/authorized_keys have a \n at the end? |
| 08:19.52 | catbeard | good q |
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| 08:22.07 | catbeard | nope |
| 08:22.12 | catbeard | not literal \n |
| 08:22.55 | jelly | make sure it has a proper line ending |
| 08:23.01 | catbeard | dos2unix |
| 08:26.16 | catbeard | ya it's fine |
| 08:26.30 | catbeard | still can't auth tho |
| 08:27.10 | jelly | figure out why sshd thinks there's just one pubkey in there and it being a ssh-rsa one. |
| 08:28.55 | jelly | catbeard: oh, you did not provide output of ssh -v ... ? (just one -v for now) |
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| 08:39.25 | catbeard | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/1038564/ |
| 08:41.19 | jelly | sigh |
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| 08:42.23 | catbeard | already had it :) |
| 08:42.29 | jelly | catbeard: line 91 looks like the right key is tried |
| 08:43.58 | catbeard | yup |
| 08:47.44 | ksk | what does the sshd log say? or auth.log that is |
| 08:48.10 | ksk | permissions of ~/.ssh server-side are good? |
| 08:48.11 | catbeard | ksk: https://hastebin.com/odokosakuk.nginx |
| 08:48.13 | ksk | thx |
| 08:48.14 | catbeard | yep |
| 08:48.34 | ksk | that does not work without javascript :P |
| 08:48.40 | catbeard | sec |
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| 08:49.10 | ksk | nvm,. ill start the browser |
| 08:50.55 | ksk | mhm, does not show anything in chrome either.. |
| 08:51.37 | ksk | a blinkin coursor, and goes off to "https://hastebin.com/" after a while.. |
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| 08:54.47 | catbeard | ya |
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| 08:56.07 | catbeard | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/106c98b4/ |
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| 08:58.28 | ksk | thats not an auth.log imho, rather ssh -v output |
| 08:59.44 | catbeard | oh! you're right |
| 08:59.46 | catbeard | sec |
| 09:02.53 | ksk | also, the wording of your ssh-v is a little strange, here on my box ssh -v is like "trying private key" |
| 09:03.26 | ksk | and yours is like " Offering public key" |
| 09:04.09 | ksk | not sure if you just removed that for $reasons, but you have a line like "Trying private key: /home/ksk/.ssh/id_rsa" in "ssh -v" output? |
| 09:04.36 | catbeard | i don't have id_rsa |
| 09:04.41 | catbeard | just id_ed25519 |
| 09:06.20 | ksk | yeah sure, but you should still have a private/publicy keypair, on whatever crypto |
| 09:07.04 | ksk | or not? maybe I should try generating a ed25519 key.. |
| 09:08.09 | catbeard | i already have it keyed, it works on another account on the same box |
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| 09:08.20 | catbeard | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7ef467c4/ |
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| 09:12.10 | ksk | mhhm, that looks fine, sorry.. |
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| 09:12.29 | ksk | you are sure its the right private/pubkey combination? :> |
| 09:12.49 | jelly | catbeard: how many lines/keys are there in ~admin/.ssh/authorized_keys now? |
| 09:13.24 | catbeard | 1 |
| 09:13.54 | jelly | catbeard: did you edit the file while we're debugging or what? |
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| 09:14.10 | jelly | because sshd log said it found a rsa pub key there. |
| 09:14.22 | catbeard | maybe needs a restart |
| 09:14.38 | ksk | no, sshd does not need a restart to see keys and stuff. |
| 09:14.52 | jelly | catbeard: pastebin a new log from sshd side, try to log in again |
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| 09:15.45 | jelly | catbeard: look at timestamps carefully, verify you're logging in to the correct user and server |
| 09:15.53 | jelly | well, trying to log in |
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| 09:17.52 | ksk | yeah, most of the times I had problems like that server debug log was not needed, and it can make things difficult to spot |
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| 09:18.21 | ksk | like all the "pubkey auth does not work" problems I ever encountered showed in "normal" auth/sshd log |
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| 19:26.29 | apathor | hi. i have multiple kernel images installed - how do i select a new one to be used on reboot? |
| 19:26.50 | greycat | normally by hitting the down arrow key during the grub screen at boot time |
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| 19:28.04 | apathor | hi greycat! yes but this is a headless server - no console access. i tried 'update-grub' to no avail |
| 19:28.29 | greycat | update-grub runs a set of scripts that generate a grub menu with the most recent kernel as the default |
| 19:28.53 | greycat | if you want to change that, you can either edit the grub.cfg every single time, or tweak the scripts so that they put your choice as the default |
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| 19:29.56 | apathor | yeah i see that in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 19:30.03 | apathor | okay |
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| 19:30.28 | algun|home | For so long brasero has this recurring bug that ejects my CDs just as they are about to be written |
| 19:30.43 | algun|home | For no reason: BraseroWodim asked to stop because of an error |
| 19:30.43 | algun|home | error= 0 |
| 19:30.43 | algun|home | message= "no message" |
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| 19:31.01 | algun|home | What do I do? |
| 19:31.17 | Centurion_Dan | hi |
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| 19:32.49 | algun|home | If there's a brasero channel I'd be happy to visit it |
| 19:35.32 | Centurion_Dan | Can anybody tell me how to unpick a funky 3.0 (quilt) source (from salsa.git.org) where all the debian branches come patches applied but quilt thinks they're unapplied, and applying them fails. I get the same rejections from gbp pq... |
| 19:37.37 | Centurion_Dan | I want to add new patches to the series, but can't do that until I can recover a sane state where either quilt or gbp pq recognises that the patches are applied... |
| 19:37.52 | Centurion_Dan | the package at issue is cloud-init... |
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| 20:02.53 | Bushmaster | hi, not sure anyone can help here, but my Debian, came with R which unfortunately does not support R Commander package |
| 20:03.15 | Bushmaster | which means I need to install different R version, can it be possible? |
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| 20:19.31 | JordiGH | I seem to have lost the sound icon in my mate system tray. |
| 20:19.56 | JordiGH | What's supposed to display that? Maybe there's something I can restart. |
| 20:20.43 | JordiGH | The alt-Fn keys for changing volume still seem to work. |
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| 20:28.23 | Bushmaster | never thought Debian will cause so much hassle |
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| 20:32.00 | Bushmaster | there is no one who can help me how to upgrade R 3.3.3 to R 3.4 |
| 20:32.19 | Bushmaster | i cant locate any information in google |
| 20:32.24 | JordiGH | Are you talking about Debian versions? |
| 20:32.29 | JordiGH | Or about R? |
| 20:32.32 | Bushmaster | i am in Debian |
| 20:32.51 | Bushmaster | but R it came with is a version that is not letting me to install R package |
| 20:32.58 | Bushmaster | i need R version 3.4 |
| 20:33.14 | greycat | What is the pacakge name in Debian? |
| 20:33.17 | Bushmaster | there are lot of info in CRAN but nothing is helping me |
| 20:33.19 | JordiGH | r-base |
| 20:33.22 | greycat | ,v r-base |
| 20:33.23 | judd | Package: r-base on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.15.1-4; wheezy-security: 2.15.1-4+deb7u1; jessie: 3.1.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 3.1.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 3.3.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 3.3.3-1; buster: 3.5.1-1; sid: 3.5.1-1 |
| 20:33.30 | Bushmaster | yes r-base |
| 20:33.33 | greycat | ,checkbackport r-base |
| 20:33.34 | judd | Backporting package r-base in sidâstretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch. |
| 20:33.42 | greycat | Bushmaster: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 20:34.15 | Bushmaster | greycat, hello, what it will do for me? |
| 20:34.57 | greycat | Tells you how to backport the r-base source package from sid into stretch. |
| 20:35.08 | greycat | judd says it's possible |
| 20:35.33 | Bushmaster | greycat, i get this /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 20:35.44 | apathor | you were right about update-grub. got it working. thanks greycat |
| 20:35.56 | Bushmaster | greycat, bushcat@Buashcat:~$ /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 20:35.56 | Bushmaster | bash: /msg: No such file or directory |
| 20:35.57 | greycat | If you aren't capable of pasting an IRC command into your IRC client and reading the results, well.... |
| 20:36.06 | greycat | /msg is an IRC client command |
| 20:36.22 | Bushmaster | greycat, hold on |
| 20:36.33 | greycat | No. I will FLY FREE! |
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| 20:37.11 | Bushmaster | greycat, i do not know what happened |
| 20:37.26 | annadane | Bushmaster, not in bash |
| 20:37.29 | annadane | in your irc client |
| 20:37.41 | annadane | it will message the dpkg bot who will give you instructions |
| 20:37.47 | Bushmaster | annadane, i did |
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| 20:38.00 | Bushmaster | dpkg came out |
| 20:38.01 | dpkg | wish i knew, Bushmaster |
| 20:38.08 | annadane | !ssb |
| 20:38.09 | JordiGH | ... of the closet? |
| 20:38.09 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 20:38.11 | annadane | just follow that ^ |
| 20:38.18 | brwoods | just an FYI, in buster, NIS is broken, after manually running ypbind, it works |
| 20:38.32 | Bushmaster | i cant follow these annadane |
| 20:38.37 | JordiGH | I'm guessing that "Just follow that" is going to be difficult for someone inexperienced enough to attempt IRC commands in bash. |
| 20:38.45 | annadane | brwoods, such advisories would be better suited to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:39.21 | greycat | brwoods: whenever a network thing fails a boot time but works after manually starting, my first response is ALWAYS going to be "change allow-hotplug to auto". |
| 20:39.24 | Bushmaster | all i wanted is someone to help me re-install older version of R |
| 20:39.40 | greycat | ... you frankendebianed it? |
| 20:39.49 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: what release |
| 20:39.51 | Centurion_Dan | ? |
| 20:40.00 | brwoods | greycat: it used to work, but then failed after an update so (wasn't updated in while) |
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| 20:40.12 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, i need R Commander package and I think somebody told me 3.4 version will do it |
| 20:40.20 | brwoods | it's a VM, if that makes a difference |
| 20:40.49 | Centurion_Dan | have you tried adding backports and installing from there? |
| 20:40.52 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, can you help me |
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| 20:41.04 | Centurion_Dan | sure... |
| 20:41.06 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, i do not know what backport means |
| 20:41.15 | Centurion_Dan | ok... |
| 20:41.34 | Bushmaster | i can give you CRAN web site |
| 20:41.40 | Bushmaster | it has too much info |
| 20:42.24 | Centurion_Dan | what editor do you use? vi(m) |
| 20:42.25 | Bushmaster | my problem is simple, I need R Commander which is one of many packages of R and for that I need R version that can support R Commander |
| 20:42.34 | greycat | A backport is a newer version of a software package, built to run on an older (or current) release of Debian. |
| 20:42.42 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, no way, I stick to Kate or KWrite |
| 20:43.13 | Bushmaster | i am not using older Debian or at least i do not think so |
| 20:43.14 | greycat | You can't run the sid version of r-base on stretch, but you CAN build the sid version from source code on stretch, and then run that. That's a backport. |
| 20:43.33 | Bushmaster | no idea what it all means |
| 20:43.46 | greycat | ... then how on earth are you going to use a programming language?! |
| 20:43.58 | Centurion_Dan | ok... you know synaptic package manager? |
| 20:44.08 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, yes |
| 20:44.09 | greycat | feel like I'm being trolled |
| 20:44.27 | Bushmaster | greycat, I can work in R Commander and R language a bit yes |
| 20:44.44 | Bushmaster | for mathematics |
| 20:45.11 | Centurion_Dan | greycat: not everybody is a programmer or unix geek... |
| 20:45.12 | Bushmaster | I follow Brian Dennis Book on R okay |
| 20:46.04 | Bushmaster | I admire UNIX flavor yes but I am afraid my knowledge is command lines is very much at its infancy |
| 20:46.05 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: in synaptic go to settings->repositories |
| 20:46.24 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, hold on my friend |
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| 20:47.24 | Bushmaster | yes I am there, it opened up a box Centurion_Dan |
| 20:48.03 | Centurion_Dan | what version of debian are you running? |
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| 20:48.25 | Bushmaster | i do not know, i trust stable latest version but no idea Centurion_Dan |
| 20:48.40 | greycat | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:48.42 | Centurion_Dan | ok, that will be stretch. |
| 20:48.55 | Bushmaster | hold on greycat |
| 20:49.12 | Centurion_Dan | so, look for a line ending in stretch-backports and tick that box |
| 20:49.26 | Centurion_Dan | select ok |
| 20:49.44 | Bushmaster | that command is nice greycat and Centurion_Dan it came out as 9.5 |
| 20:50.04 | Bushmaster | hold on Centurion_Dan i need to go back to Synpatic |
| 20:50.16 | Centurion_Dan | yeah, that's stretch |
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| 20:52.04 | Centurion_Dan | Once you have done that, go to Edit->Reload Package Information |
| 20:52.45 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, where i look at? Debian Software, Other Software, Updates etc etc? |
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| 20:54.03 | Centurion_Dan | and then you can search for r-base in synaptic... |
| 20:54.05 | diogenes_ | guys, i have recently had several debian installs and on different PCs and, i noticed that after the installation, on the first boot, it takes looong time to boot to the desktop after entering the password, afterwards it boots ok, so what black magic does it do on the first boot? |
| 20:54.26 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, i am lost |
| 20:54.53 | Bushmaster | where do i look for stretch - backport Centurion_Dan |
| 20:55.29 | Centurion_Dan | see the big Search button in the tool bar on synaptic |
| 20:55.38 | jhutchins_wk | diogenes_: There are a number of tasks that are set to "first run", I'm not sure what they all are. |
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| 20:55.49 | jhutchins_wk | !backports |
| 20:55.50 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 20:55.53 | Bushmaster | yeah I see it Centurion_Dan |
| 20:56.30 | Centurion_Dan | search for r-base |
| 20:56.43 | diogenes_ | jhutchins_wk, is it documented somewhere? |
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| 20:57.02 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: so there is no backports for r-base... you'll have to upgrade to testing/buster |
| 20:57.08 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, you asked me to tick a box stretch backport right? |
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| 20:57.54 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: yes |
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| 20:57.59 | greycat | Centurion_Dan: no, judd says a backport is possible. So I told him how to ask dpkg to do a simple sid backport. He claims he can't follow the directions. |
| 20:58.11 | Bushmaster | i can download r version from cran as source file with .tar.gz Centurion_Dan |
| 20:58.29 | greycat | He claims he's not a "programmer or a unix geek". Implying that we are. Geeks. Because I am being trolled. Again. |
| 20:58.33 | Bushmaster | i do not know where to find stretch - backport |
| 20:58.47 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 20:59.24 | Centurion_Dan | greycat: asking somebody non-technical to build a backport is like asking a secretary to fly an fighter jet.. |
| 20:59.52 | greycat | Asking somebody who is asking for a newer version of a programming language to follow the directions given by a bot is not analogous. |
| 20:59.56 | Bushmaster | i do not know how to find a backport okay |
| 21:00.32 | greycat | I thought you were going to guide him through editing sources,list but then it all went sideways. |
| 21:00.34 | Bushmaster | all i need is a R version which can accept R Commander |
| 21:00.49 | Bushmaster | i can get to source list yes |
| 21:01.02 | Bushmaster | its in etc and then apt folder |
| 21:01.28 | Centurion_Dan | bushmaster - current debian stable doesn't have a recent enough version of r-base to have R Commander |
| 21:01.40 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, yes I think so |
| 21:01.42 | Centurion_Dan | you need to upgrade to testing. |
| 21:02.04 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, can I not get rid of this debian and install older version? |
| 21:02.08 | greycat | I *really* do not advise upgrading to testing just to avoid having to EDIT A FUCKING TEXT FILE. |
| 21:02.14 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: Is english your native language? |
| 21:02.20 | greycat | Fuck. He'd have to edit the SAME FILE ANYWAY to upgrade to testing. |
| 21:02.28 | Bushmaster | I have Debian 8 Jessie in my other machine and it had no issue to support R Commander Centurion_Dan |
| 21:02.48 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, No, try to write a bit english yes |
| 21:02.50 | greycat | He should instead edit it to add the deb-src for sid, then do what the bot said. He doesn't even have to think. |
| 21:03.08 | n4dir | asking a non-tech person to uprade to testing is a good idea? |
| 21:03.30 | Bushmaster | what is testing? |
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| 21:04.13 | Bushmaster | are you English Centurion_Dan |
| 21:04.14 | Centurion_Dan | the testing version of debian |
| 21:04.25 | greycat | (is not what he should be using) |
| 21:04.28 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: Kiwi |
| 21:04.47 | Centurion_Dan | ... from New Zealand |
| 21:05.00 | Bushmaster | well in that case I am a nematode |
| 21:05.08 | Centurion_Dan | greycat: ? |
| 21:05.36 | Centurion_Dan | yeah,maybe your right, but then I wouldn't recommend debian anymore these days either... |
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| 21:05.56 | greycat | Centurion_Dan: we checked judd to see if there is an existing backport (no) and then if a backport is possible (yes). So he should be building a backport of r-base himself instead of sabotaging his entire system by going to testing. |
| 21:06.18 | Centurion_Dan | is testing really that broken? |
| 21:06.31 | greycat | It's not appropriate for this person. |
| 21:06.32 | Bushmaster | well, if i can somehow install Debian Jessie 8 I can then install R |
| 21:06.44 | greycat | He can't even following the instructions to send a /msg to dpkg. |
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| 21:07.01 | greycat | We had to trigger it in the channel FOR hin. |
| 21:07.04 | Bushmaster | can you please help me to find the ISO link of Debian Jessie 8 64 bit |
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| 21:07.51 | Bushmaster | i can get rid of this debian version cos it has done nothing for me than wasting my time |
| 21:08.03 | Bushmaster | call that a english |
| 21:08.26 | greycat | He didn't know what release of Debian he was using, or how to find out, until we told him that too. |
| 21:08.38 | wgas | https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/debian-installer/ try here |
| 21:08.39 | greycat | This is NOT a user who should be on testing or unstable. |
| 21:08.52 | Bushmaster | hold on wgas |
| 21:09.31 | Bushmaster | wgas, it says it will not work |
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| 21:09.36 | n4dir | isn't it rather easy to use a software version of jessie (old-stable) on stable ? Never did it myself, iirc, but it might be a choice (doing a backport yourself still being the best idea, of course) |
| 21:09.49 | greycat | n4dir: it can be, depending on the dependency situation |
| 21:09.54 | wgas | MAY not work |
| 21:10.16 | Bushmaster | am I allowed to install it wgas |
| 21:11.56 | Bushmaster | so in debian 9 there is no way I can install R version 3.4 |
| 21:12.20 | wgas | you can try it but as says may not be available or work, it should work |
| 21:12.24 | Bushmaster | the version they have now is R 3.3 |
| 21:12.28 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: you don't need testing.. you need to install the package r-cran-rcmdr |
| 21:12.43 | Centurion_Dan | which is in stretch/stable. |
| 21:12.49 | greycat | ,v r-cran-rcmdr |
| 21:12.50 | judd | Package: r-cran-rcmdr on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.8-4-1; jessie: 2.1-3-1; stretch: 2.3-2-1; buster: 2.4-4-1; sid: 2.4-4-1 |
| 21:13.14 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, how I do that? |
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| 21:13.38 | Centurion_Dan | bushmaster on the command line "sudo apt install r-cran-rcmdr" |
| 21:13.47 | Bushmaster | there is no sudo |
| 21:13.51 | Bushmaster | i can su Centurion_Dan |
| 21:14.00 | Bushmaster | hold on |
| 21:14.37 | Centurion_Dan | then su and don't use "sudo" |
| 21:14.58 | Bushmaster | it hang |
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| 21:15.10 | Bushmaster | black vertical bar and nothing Centurion_Dan |
| 21:15.44 | Centurion_Dan | su -c apt install r-cran r-cran-rcmdr |
| 21:15.59 | Centurion_Dan | nope.. |
| 21:16.00 | Bushmaster | i put "" before |
| 21:16.08 | greycat | don't get fancy |
| 21:16.15 | Bushmaster | he did |
| 21:16.19 | Centurion_Dan | yeah don't include the quotes... |
| 21:16.24 | Bushmaster | hold on |
| 21:16.33 | Centurion_Dan | so su to get root and then |
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| 21:16.46 | Centurion_Dan | apt-get install ... |
| 21:17.04 | Centurion_Dan | you can figure the rest of that line out... |
| 21:17.16 | Centurion_Dan | ... |
| 21:17.17 | Bushmaster | hold on |
| 21:17.40 | Centurion_Dan | bye |
| 21:18.11 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, its doing something and i think it is working |
| 21:18.27 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, is Kwi is a fruit or bird? |
| 21:18.53 | Bushmaster | it says 84 packages are newly installed and it is doing it |
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| 21:19.32 | Bushmaster | greycat, cat, Centurion_Dan never thought I am a troll and he helped me, although it may not work,. but good help |
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| 21:20.58 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, command line is running fast, saying unpacking |
| 21:21.16 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, its back to roo now |
| 21:21.19 | Bushmaster | root now |
| 21:21.25 | Bushmaster | what you want me to do now Centurion_Dan |
| 21:22.45 | axiom_1 | question, should I go with nftables or bpf? |
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| 21:23.40 | Bushmaster | Centurion_Dan, it did not work |
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| 21:41.05 | Kalavera | hey guys, I am facing an issue with all the network interfaces showing NO-CARRIER |
| 21:41.10 | Kalavera | no matters what I do |
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| 21:43.39 | Kalavera | is there a workaround for this kind of situations |
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| 21:50.00 | Centurion_Dan | Bushmaster: so rcmdr doesn |
| 21:50.07 | Centurion_Dan | 't work? |
| 21:50.56 | Centurion_Dan | Kalavera: how did you get to that state? |
| 21:53.24 | Kalavera | I have installed a Proxmox server and tried to connect the network but it doesnt. I have tested the same cable on an ubuntu laptop and it works and the dhcp assign an IP address but on the server it doesnt. The hardware, a single network card with 4 ports, is recognized by the OS and assign the names eno1 . . . eno4 |
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| 21:53.53 | Kalavera | but further than that it doesnt do much , I can only ping the same interface but not the rest of network |
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| 21:54.04 | Kalavera | Centurion_Dan: thank you for answering |
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| 21:57.36 | Centurion_Dan | do you have the firmware installed? |
| 21:58.41 | Centurion_Dan | I don't really know proxmox but presumably it's based on debian or you woudln't be here.. |
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| 22:06.00 | Kalavera | Centurion_Dan: yes it is based on debian and the network interface is using the module i40e |
| 22:06.29 | Kalavera | Centurion_Dan: I cant really install anything cause I have no connectivity |
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| 22:13.32 | Centurion_Dan | how did you get it installed that far? |
| 22:13.38 | Centurion_Dan | Kalavera: ^ |
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| 22:16.57 | annadane | there's a channel for proxmox also |
| 22:16.58 | annadane | !proxmox |
| 22:16.58 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
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| 22:18.13 | Centurion_Dan | gee you debian people are harsh.. |
| 22:18.31 | Centurion_Dan | and not very helpful.... |
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| 22:19.14 | Centurion_Dan | I'm going back to #devuan where they're much more friendly and helpful... |
| 22:19.40 | annadane | it's not being harsh, it's that proxmox may have significant differences with debian |
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| 22:20.36 | b0t | I can not understand why, when I send an email from the command line it arrives instantly, when I send the same email from php it takes a long time |
| 22:21.33 | b0t | I am using MSMTP |
| 22:22.23 | Centurion_Dan | b0t: because the command line probably drops it into a queue to be processed - where as php will actually talk to the mail server either directly or indirectly and block until the mail has been accepted. |
| 22:22.30 | Kalavera | well maybe there are differences but not sure there are allot of them at the network configuration level |
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| 22:25.58 | b0t | Centurion_Dan::: Tell me how I can avoid this delay (it usually takes hours) |
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| 22:26.38 | Centurion_Dan | setup a local mail server and use that to submit the email(s) |
| 22:26.57 | Centurion_Dan | for simple cases ssmtp should work fine. |
| 22:27.22 | Centurion_Dan | ^bot |
| 22:27.32 | Centurion_Dan | b0t: ^ |
| 22:29.03 | b0t | That's a lot of work, I'm using only MTA |
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| 22:29.48 | b0t | With sendmail was fast, now with msmtp is slow |
| 22:30.49 | b0t | But sendmail is almost impossible to configure, I do not understand how there are no simpler alternatives, it is something harmful for health to set up an MTA in Linux |
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| 22:34.24 | Centurion_Dan | b0t: ssmtp should be sufficient - and provides a sendmail command that can be used by php |
| 22:34.40 | Centurion_Dan | how many emails are you sending? |
| 22:34.46 | digdilem | postfix is a bit easier to set up (imo) than some MTAs |
| 22:35.22 | Centurion_Dan | digdilem: yes, if your doing volume or serving for multiple domains I'd agree..\ |
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| 22:36.21 | digdilem | i use it for all of my machines, including just lan ones. it's fairly lightweight |
| 22:36.52 | digdilem | remember debian's default is exim4, which is pretty heavy going |
| 22:37.07 | b0t | Centurion_Dan::: Msmtp is the continuation of ssmtp |
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| 22:38.02 | xaeB5 | does smtube pop up an annoying window on every start with some youtube code message for anyone else? wondering if it's a bug |
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| 22:38.25 | Centurion_Dan | oh... didn't realise that... maybe then you'll need to use postfix... |
| 22:39.04 | Centurion_Dan | b0t: or some other mail transport agent that provides a proper queue. |
| 22:40.30 | bites | b0t: i'm not familiar with msmtp, but do you see something in the logs during the delay? |
| 22:40.35 | b0t | I have already spent the ordeal of configuring postfix with a stmp microsoft exchange and I could not. I'd rather die than go back to it |
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| 22:41.27 | b0t | bites::: The logs do not say anything weird |
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| 22:42.57 | b0t | I think I've solved it by following this: -->> http://www.alphadevx.com/a/372-Fixing-slow-performance-of-sending-mail-from-PHP-via-Sendmail |
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| 22:44.49 | Centurion_Dan | b0t: nice... |
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| 22:45.12 | b0t | Yes, it has been fixed |
| 22:46.43 | b0t | I have left a single line in host with 4 values |
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