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| 00:02.22 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 00:03.29 | lenswipe | I'm using Debian 9 and I've somehow managed to unmap the super key from showing the overview in GNOME |
| 00:03.33 | lenswipe | anyone know how to fix that? |
| 00:03.36 | lenswipe | It's driving me nuts |
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| 00:04.01 | lenswipe | I've tried using gconf and I've tried messing with the tweak tool but I can't find any option rleated to Super |
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| 03:24.06 | linuxbox | ust installed 9.5.0 and I'm having some weird issues like sudo isn't working, can't man sudoers..tried usermod -aG sudo username but when I type groups it doesn't show sudo in there when typing any of the commands it says command not found i did manage to check for updates using su - â¦but i'm at a lost as to why i'm having sudo issues |
| 03:25.59 | at0m | linuxbox: my guess is you don't have sudo installed |
| 03:26.00 | linuxbox | according to debian's wiki I shouldn't even have to give myself sudo in this version as they've changed the installer |
| 03:27.47 | at0m | linuxbox: if that is the case, apt install sudo |
| 03:27.54 | linuxbox | at0m: thanks for the tip, didn't even occur to me that when I ready that on a page they literally meant it wasn't installed lol |
| 03:28.46 | at0m | when both the manual and the group aren't found, something is horribly wrong or it's just not installed =) |
| 03:31.06 | linuxbox | at least all I have to do was install it, I thought for a moment I was gonna have to add myself to the group lmao |
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| 03:31.36 | at0m | linuxbox: installing did the trick? =) |
| 03:31.44 | linuxbox | at0m: yah thanks for the tip |
| 03:32.43 | at0m | linuxbox: you're welcome. in the past it might be installed by default, now it's optional |
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| 03:33.32 | linuxbox | interesting, I read on a debian wiki that none of this was necessary anymore, but then we are talking about wiki heh |
| 03:34.33 | at0m | when in doubt, you can always "whereis $program" or "which $program" |
| 03:35.48 | linuxbox | what's also interesting is whatever distro parallels for the mac grabs not only lets you avoid installing sudo, but it also creates a default user called parallels heh |
| 03:36.04 | linuxbox | automatically, which is good but also kinda weird |
| 03:36.46 | linuxbox | rambles on and on |
| 03:36.53 | at0m | =) |
| 03:38.16 | Moussa | https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5wEBo7GhJs2RkFCemgtbVZRcGs |
| 03:38.27 | linuxbox | i wonder if anyone has forked adium for debian yet |
| 03:38.39 | linuxbox | or if that'd even be possible without cocoa |
| 03:40.02 | at0m | linuxbox: both adium and pidgin are gaim forks |
| 03:40.14 | at0m | linuxbox: so, pidgin is the IM resembling adium |
| 03:40.34 | linuxbox | i'm familiar with pidgin for sure, it uses gtk though right? kinda fugly |
| 03:40.37 | at0m | gaim was the Gnome IM |
| 03:41.02 | at0m | many clients , both with GUI and console, use libpurple |
| 03:41.17 | at0m | or, can use libpurple |
| 03:41.24 | linuxbox | that's kind of hilarious when you put it that way, i'm trying to go backwards lol |
| 03:41.30 | linuxbox | i just like the look of adium |
| 03:41.58 | at0m | that's not backwards. both were based on gaim, if i understand correctly |
| 03:42.43 | linuxbox | well i just mean to say since they were based on gaim and not origin, by trying to fork it back to it's source OS it feels backwards |
| 03:43.16 | at0m | and yup, pidgin depends on libgtk2 |
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| 04:34.14 | n4dir | hi. i am trying to follow these insctructions for a usb-wireless-dongle: https://wiki.debian.org/acx and am getting this error: http://paste.debian.net/1039735/ after running the dkms build command |
| 04:34.15 | n4dir | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:36.56 | dgp | Probably not the answer you want to hear but I would toss the acx100 dongle and just get something else. |
| 04:37.28 | n4dir | nah. a good answer. Just wanted to ask in the german channel if it is worse to fiddle with that thing at all. Thanks. |
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| 04:47.56 | n4dir | another question: i follow the instructions for the internal broadcom: BCM4313 ; both ifconfig and ip a; show the device after doing so, but wicd-gtk says no wireless networks found |
| 04:49.09 | dgp | n4dir: That could be it just not working or something like rfkill disabling the radio. Looking at dmesg may help |
| 04:49.53 | n4dir | WLC_SCAN error (-22) |
| 04:50.42 | n4dir | "just not working". i was told broadcam is known for permanent problems (and that is my experience too). Hence i worked around with dongles, but that one died, and the AVM one is the problem from above. |
| 04:53.19 | dgp | Is there any other output from the boardcom driver before the scan error? |
| 04:54.56 | n4dir | http://paste.debian.net/1039736/ |
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| 04:56.09 | n4dir | not sure if the "firmware failed to load " messages are boot messages or *after* i tried to install the wl module again. |
| 04:57.21 | dgp | I don't see the messages about loading the firmware. Do you have the broadcom firmware package installed? |
| 04:57.46 | Michael72 | For the 5th time I'm trying to send a bug report to the bug tracker by email client and reportbug, but in response no reaction. |
| 04:58.33 | Michael72 | What could be the reason? |
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| 05:00.59 | n4dir | dgp: i followed the instructions from the debian wiki. You mean this package (yes, it is installed): ii broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 05:02.31 | dgp | n4dir: I think you need this too firmware-brcm80211 |
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| 05:04.23 | n4dir | installed it, but no gain. It is available right after installing? |
| 05:04.28 | dgp | When the driver loads you should see it say it's loading the firmware, the version etc and maybe something to say the firmware is running on the wifi |
| 05:04.40 | dgp | you'll probably need to unload the module and load it again |
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| 05:08.06 | n4dir | mh. same messages dmesg gave before. btw: it says: Broadcom BCM4727; while the chipset is: BCM4313 |
| 05:08.48 | dgp | n4dir: Does it still say it can't load the firmware? |
| 05:10.01 | n4dir | no. That happens during boot (always), iirc. it says WLC_SCAN error (-22) |
| 05:10.56 | dgp | how are you doing the scan? iw scan? |
| 05:11.09 | n4dir | the complete new dmesg message: http://paste.debian.net/1039737/ . I am using wicd |
| 05:12.43 | dgp | It looks like the broadcom-sta driver doesn't work with that chip and you need the older b43 one instead |
| 05:13.44 | n4dir | Thanks. Let me try that, but later. Your help is much appreciated. |
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| 05:17.06 | dgp | Other places say that brcmsmac from the kernel should work too. I think if you unload wl and brcmsmac and reload brcmsmac it should load the firmware and come up |
| 05:17.18 | dgp | then you need to remove wl so it doesn't get loaded anymore |
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| 05:19.04 | n4dir | yeah, that is and always has been going on back and forth, some saying this (driver), some the other. It worked in the past, but never was much fun to set up. Now it doesn't work at all anymore |
| 05:20.18 | n4dir | how do i iw scan? I did : iw scan wlp4s0b1; but that gives me the help of "iw". |
| 05:21.16 | dgp | iw wlp4s0b1 scan |
| 05:21.23 | n4dir | ha. thanks |
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| 06:32.43 | darxmurf | where can I check who did shutdown a machine ? |
| 06:32.59 | darxmurf | I can find the last logged user in the lastlog but don't find info about the shutdown |
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| 06:47.56 | diogenes_ | darxmurf, maybe something like: printf "$(last -x|grep shutdown)" |
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| 06:48.41 | at0m | darxmurf: any info on who did su/sudo? /var/log/auth.log |
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| 07:22.17 | darxmurf | hmm nothing clear in there |
| 07:23.07 | darxmurf | Well I took the last logged user in the logs |
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| 07:37.49 | thnee | Anyone noticed that right clicking in google chrome is a bit broken? Using the official .deb on debian testing |
| 07:40.38 | jelly | thnee: do you mean Chromium? The build calling itself "Chrome" only comes from Google and is not part of Debian |
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| 07:41.02 | jelly | ,v chromium |
| 07:41.04 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 62.0.3202.89-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 63.0.3239.84-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 67.0.3396.87-1~deb9u1; buster: 68.0.3440.75-2; sid: 68.0.3440.75-2; experimental: 69.0.3497.12-1 |
| 07:41.31 | jelly | also, |
| 07:41.34 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 07:41.35 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 08:03.39 | tdn | When I type "man update-smart-drivedb" it indicates there should be a /usr/sbin/update-smart-drivedb command. However, this command does not seem to be installed by the package. What gives? How do I get the /usr/sbin/update-smart-drivedb command? |
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| 08:05.19 | ghenry | Hi all. Anyone know of a tool to check total size of a directory against a file SIZE variable/env/var and then remove files to match that var/env SIZE or of a certain age? |
| 08:05.34 | ghenry | I'm thinking find and stat etc. or writing my own wee tool |
| 08:05.46 | ghenry | Sort of enforced file system quotas |
| 08:06.04 | ghenry | I suppose, dening new files is better than deleting in the first place. |
| 08:07.01 | ghenry | bbl |
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| 08:17.31 | netsrot | Hi, where can I find packages for squeeze? When I try to use historical.packages.debian.org I get "Not found" error page. |
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| 08:22.52 | bellbreaker | Is openldap on debian stretch linked to gnutls meaning it will not work with openSSL certs as described for squeeze here: https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/OpenLDAPSetup ? |
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| 08:28.41 | Brigo | netsrot, archive.debian.org |
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| 09:01.57 | thnee | jelly: No I mean google chrome |
| 09:02.55 | jelly | best ask in -next then |
| 09:03.04 | jelly | wfm on stretch |
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| 09:53.06 | markc_ | Hi, is there a known problem with KDE/Plasma packages for testing? |
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| 09:54.14 | lambocrypt | Hey i connected external mic on 3.5 mm jack and it shows plugin in sound settings but when i record my audio i only hear white noise...what to do ? |
| 09:54.51 | Fox | !debian-next |
| 09:54.52 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 09:54.59 | Fox | markc_: ^ |
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| 09:55.25 | markc_ | Fox: thanks |
| 09:55.57 | lambocrypt | is that audio driver giving problem or something else ? or do i need to change settings in alsamixer |
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| 10:13.17 | lambocrypt | can any one know how to fix above microphone problem |
| 10:13.18 | lambocrypt | 3. |
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| 10:15.30 | bellbreaker | when using gnutls-cli-debug -p 389 localhost I get "Server does not support SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2" when running openldap on that port. Why are none of the tls protocols open? I have not configured a minimum tls version for slapd |
| 10:16.20 | petn-randall | bellbreaker: ldaps is not on 389, but on a different port. Check /etc/services, it lists all well-known ports. |
| 10:18.04 | bellbreaker | also 636 doesn't work |
| 10:18.13 | petn-randall | !doesnt work |
| 10:18.13 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 10:18.44 | petn-randall | bellbreaker: See above ^^^. What error do you get? |
| 10:18.47 | bellbreaker | fails with the same error :) |
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| 10:19.35 | bellbreaker | I've been trying to set up openldap with tls primarily following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-encrypt-openldap-connections-using-starttls |
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| 10:19.58 | petn-randall | !tutorial |
| 10:19.58 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
| 10:20.14 | bellbreaker | well hold on |
| 10:20.20 | petn-randall | bellbreaker: So did you set up TLS, and then restart slapd? |
| 10:20.29 | bellbreaker | I did try to set it up without the tutorial first |
| 10:22.13 | bellbreaker | so what I did first was generate my own server certificate and keys from my own CA, but that was using easyrsa and the debian ldap page mentions that the certs should be signed using certtool from gnutls-bin, so I did that and no luck. Therefore I reverted to the tutorial just to check if I could even get it to work with a simple ca and self-signed certificate. I set the olcTLS parameters and update |
| 10:22.19 | bellbreaker | them using ldapmodify, restart slapd using systemctl restart slapd and try to check if tls is working using ldapwhoami -H ldap:// -x -ZZ |
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| 10:22.54 | bellbreaker | this results in ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11) additional info: The TLS connection was non-properly terminated |
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| 10:23.13 | petn-randall | bellbreaker: I'd check the server logs, maybe it has useful info there. |
| 10:23.22 | bellbreaker | so I check if tls is working at all on either port 389 where the starttls should be enabled as far as I can tell using the gnutls-cli-debug command i listed before |
| 10:23.33 | bellbreaker | but that says that no tls or ssl protocol is enabled |
| 10:23.43 | bellbreaker | I'll do that now yes |
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| 10:28.23 | bellbreaker | no logs are generated, I think the connection does not make it through at all |
| 10:28.30 | bellbreaker | starting slapd with -d any now |
| 10:29.15 | petn-randall | bellbreaker: Can you share the complete command + output of your gnutls-cli-debug command to https://paste.debian.net? |
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| 10:34.43 | bellbreaker | http://paste.debian.net/1039762/ |
| 10:35.01 | bellbreaker | on port 636 it's identical except for the port number |
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| 10:39.40 | bellbreaker | right so in the slapd logs I get connection_read(13): TLS accept failure error=-1 id=1000, closing |
| 10:39.48 | bellbreaker | when trying a ldapwhoami |
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| 10:44.23 | petn-randall | bellbreaker: Does unencrypted access work? |
| 10:44.38 | bellbreaker | yes |
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| 10:47.37 | bellbreaker | setting GNUTLS_DEBUG_LEVEL=15 as suggested here: https://blog.lertsenem.com/openldap_gnutls_and_raspberry_pi.html reveals that in the negotiation I get "gnutls[2]: Could not find an appropriate certificate: Insufficient credentials for that request" |
| 10:48.19 | bellbreaker | and it terminates at "TLS: can't accept: No supported cipher suites have been found.." |
| 10:48.31 | bellbreaker | which makes sense since gnutls-cli-debug tells me that I don't have any |
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| 10:51.11 | bellbreaker | I wish it would tell me which certificates it has |
| 10:51.24 | bellbreaker | because I pointed slapd to my own ca certificate |
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| 11:34.33 | bellbreaker | Is it just a problem with GnuTLS then? |
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| 11:55.04 | bassil | do you guys know if Debian 9 works with broadcom drivers out of the box? |
| 11:55.05 | bellbreaker | must the ldap server have a hostname of ldap? or can it be anything? |
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| 11:56.03 | Brigo | bassil, most probably you will need firmware from non-free |
| 11:56.16 | bassil | ok |
| 11:56.21 | Brigo | that isn't configured out of the box. |
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| 11:57.22 | bites | bassil: you will have to tell us which card it is exactly. some broadcom firmware is not freely distributable, even in non-free. |
| 11:57.43 | bassil | I understand, thank you |
| 11:58.14 | bassil | right now I can't because it's stuck with a xubuntu install that doesn't even have Ethernet working |
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| 11:58.23 | bassil | but thank you |
| 11:58.54 | bites | bassil: most will work with the firmware installer image, which is the normal installer with additional non-free firmware included. |
| 11:59.28 | bassil | normal cd1? |
| 11:59.57 | bites | no, you can get it from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 12:00.11 | bassil | oh man thank you |
| 12:00.22 | bites | no problem, good luck . |
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| 12:04.16 | arora | Is there a list of banned users? |
| 12:05.47 | FinalX | arora: /mode #debian +b |
| 12:05.58 | FinalX | or just /bans in some clients |
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| 12:08.49 | satran | I'm trying to install gnome on a fresh install on sid. I get `gnome : Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.22+9) but it is not going to be installed.` I have done an autoclean and autoremove but no progress. |
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| 12:09.32 | Fasti | Looking for a command line tool for sending mail to smtp server with attachment - STARTTLS / office365 compatible any clues? |
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| 12:10.08 | FinalX | mutt? |
| 12:10.25 | dka | hi, i have a x1 carbon lenovo on debian 8 , i have just started up and the mouse is working except the left click |
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| 12:10.40 | dka | I have tried to left click using pad and using the x1 carbon mouse buttons |
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| 12:10.52 | dka | That was working fine before, any idea how to solve that? |
| 12:11.00 | arora | is jealous of how rich dka is |
| 12:13.32 | SwedeMike | ml |
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| 12:25.13 | bellbreaker | When I run ldapmodify to add entries for olcTLSCertificateFile, this does not show up anywhere in slapd.d. Is this supposed to happen? |
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| 12:32.17 | Fasti | dka .... is it a many button mouse? you might need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto |
| 12:35.20 | dka | no its the mouse included in the laptop |
| 12:35.28 | dka | i have no usb mouth |
| 12:35.42 | dka | I managed to desactivate the sensitive pad |
| 12:36.01 | dka | apparently the left click was pressed the whole time making inefficient the click |
| 12:36.06 | dka | Probably because of dust.... |
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| 12:38.08 | Fasti | dka, ahh, normally touchpads are just standard ps/2 style connections |
| 12:38.32 | Fasti | been a while since i tried one.....im on servers not desktops |
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| 13:32.12 | Moussa | petn-randall, just a follow up on yesterday ZFS RAM usage |
| 13:32.17 | Moussa | https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5wEBo7GhJs2RkFCemgtbVZRcGs |
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| 13:41.16 | mixfix41 | hi i was looking to find this git repository git://git.debian.org/pkg-bluetooth/sbc.git |
| 13:41.30 | mixfix41 | but im unsure if i stumbled upon the same package |
| 13:42.11 | mixfix41 | pertains to this issue : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856487 |
| 13:42.12 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/856487 in libsbc1 (closed, patch): «libsbc1: compiling with gcc > 4.9 causes stack corruption»; severity: serious; opened: 2017-03-01; last modified: 2017-06-10. |
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| 13:43.16 | MaxFrames | hi |
| 13:43.16 | mixfix41 | but i dont use debian at all. just that repo it helps |
| 13:43.57 | petn-randall | mixfix41: Does it exist? What makes you think it should exist? |
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| 13:44.10 | mixfix41 | because its a solution |
| 13:44.20 | mixfix41 | they only got rid of it some months back im sure |
| 13:44.24 | mixfix41 | even without checking |
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| 13:45.04 | MaxFrames | I'm in a bit of a tangle here. I created a test virtual machine on hyper-v on windows 10, and now I need to migrate it to hyper-v on windows 2008 r2, but 2008 does not support the virtual hard disk format (vhdx) so I had to convert it to vhd.... but now it's not bootable and I've been told that I need to start the virtual machine with the debian iso, with the vhd attached to it... |
| 13:45.15 | MaxFrames | ...and fix grub on the vhd so to make it bootable |
| 13:45.25 | MaxFrames | can you give me directions how to? |
| 13:45.41 | MaxFrames | of course the vm is debian 9.5 |
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| 13:46.32 | petn-randall | mixfix41: And how did you find out about it? |
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| 13:47.08 | lambocrypt | i accidently deleted audio drivers |
| 13:47.11 | petn-randall | MaxFrames: How is this issue related to Debian? Seems like a windows issue to me. |
| 13:47.12 | lambocrypt | how do i reinstall it |
| 13:47.22 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: How did you delete them? |
| 13:47.41 | lambocrypt | actually my mic was giving white noise output |
| 13:47.53 | lambocrypt | so i tried to add realtec drivers |
| 13:47.58 | MaxFrames | petn-randall: I expected this objection. let's forget all the windows stuff, and just say I have this debian machine with a hard disk that isn't bootable anymore so I need to fix grub on it and make it bootable again |
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| 13:48.08 | lambocrypt | but got errors and previous drivers was not showing |
| 13:48.15 | lambocrypt | alsa mixer is also not opening |
| 13:48.20 | MaxFrames | so I boot the machine with the debian install dvd and....? |
| 13:48.40 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: You still didn't answer my question. It is "how did you delete the audio drivers?" |
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| 13:49.25 | petn-randall | MaxFrames: What boot errors do you get? If you corrupted the disk there's not much to fix. |
| 13:49.43 | lambocrypt | it was automaticallly got deleted becuz i installed new driver |
| 13:49.43 | MaxFrames | the bios just does not find a bootable disk at all |
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| 13:50.05 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: HOW? Give us details. Command you ran, output you got, etc. |
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| 13:50.25 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: Or did you just yell "Alexa! Delete the audio drivers for me!" |
| 13:50.29 | MaxFrames | isn't there a way to boot to a terminal and run some commands to restore grub on a hard disk? |
| 13:50.36 | lambocrypt | i hv rebooted and terminal output was gone |
| 13:50.48 | petn-randall | MaxFrames: How is there a Debian issue if your VM doesn't even find a boot disk? |
| 13:50.58 | lambocrypt | there were compilation errors in that new driver that causes problem |
| 13:51.04 | mixfix41 | petn-randall: i used it |
| 13:51.09 | mixfix41 | petn-randall: this is on arm |
| 13:51.11 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: Then I recommend reinstalling from scratch. |
| 13:51.25 | petn-randall | !xy problem |
| 13:51.25 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 13:51.26 | lambocrypt | what os or driver |
| 13:51.28 | petn-randall | mixfix41: ^^^ |
| 13:51.32 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: OS. |
| 13:51.32 | MaxFrames | it does not find a boot disk because the boot sector has to be rebuilt. how do I rebuild it in debian? |
| 13:51.38 | lambocrypt | :-( |
| 13:51.54 | lambocrypt | there is no other solution available ?? |
| 13:52.00 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: If you don't remember what you did, the only sure way to recover is to reinstall. |
| 13:52.20 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: How should we know? My crystall ball is broken, I cannot know what you did that you broke your system. |
| 13:52.22 | mixfix41 | lambocrypt: you could tryto rebuild the kernel modules for alsa |
| 13:52.31 | mixfix41 | make modules or something like that |
| 13:52.39 | lambocrypt | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 13:52.42 | lambocrypt | i got this error |
| 13:52.46 | mixfix41 | not sure how you got there in the first place tho |
| 13:52.48 | lambocrypt | after installing new driver |
| 13:52.48 | petn-randall | mixfix41: You're for some reason assuming they built their kernel by hand. |
| 13:52.54 | lambocrypt | in alsamixer |
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| 13:53.14 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: If you can't recall what you did, reinstall. Or restore from backups. |
| 13:53.53 | linuxbox | i'm trying to install the irc plugin for kopete on debian but have no idea how to compile |
| 13:54.24 | mixfix41 | grab the source make make install. but thats why they have build scripts and/or package managers for |
| 13:54.37 | lambocrypt | petn-randall i extarcted tar.gz2 of driver and just type ./install |
| 13:54.57 | lambocrypt | and it automatically performed some operation like compiling etc. |
| 13:55.14 | MaxFrames | well, I answered my own question. you boot off the debian install cd, choose the repair install mode, go through the wizard and choose the option to rebuild grub on /dev/sda |
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| 13:55.29 | linuxbox | mixfix41: so how can I tell if there's a build script? |
| 13:55.48 | mixfix41 | if its for debian im not too sure |
| 13:55.55 | linuxbox | mixfix41: i found this here -> https://store.kde.org/p/1128151/show/page/1 |
| 13:55.59 | petn-randall | !dontbreakdebian |
| 13:56.00 | dpkg | dont break debian is probably https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 13:56.00 | MaxFrames | as you can see, it was neither a windows problem nor a corrupted disk, just a case of missing boot info |
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| 13:56.10 | petn-randall | !tell lambocrypt -about dontbreakdebian |
| 13:56.23 | MaxFrames | thanks anyway |
| 13:56.29 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: The bot sent you a message. I'd read that page, and then reinstall. |
| 13:56.51 | petn-randall | MaxFrames: Sure, you can try booting the installer, and then try fixing the system. |
| 13:57.01 | lambocrypt | petn-randall: alsaconf: not found this error was the first error when compiling new driver of realtec |
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| 13:57.15 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
| 13:57.41 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: I don't care about the error you get now. I've told you several times now the only clean way is to reinstall. |
| 13:58.10 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: If you don't recall how you broke the system, there's no way for us to help you fix the system.\ |
| 13:58.35 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: Read the dontbreakdebian factoid, it has good hints to avoid such cases in the future. |
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| 14:00.43 | lambocrypt | yes i hve used ubuntu tutorial to fix my microphone problem and thing got broken |
| 14:01.56 | petn-randall | That's no surprise. |
| 14:01.58 | lambocrypt | hda intel driver was missing |
| 14:01.58 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 14:01.58 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:02.28 | lambocrypt | ok |
| 14:02.42 | mixfix41 | linuxbox: you could look at this https://github.com/KDE/kopete/blob/master/INSTALL but ill admit its more in depth in the system then i usually ever do |
| 14:03.12 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: snd_hda_intel has been in the Debian kernel for 10(?) years now, so that was not your issue. Do you have any other question besides your audio driver issue that is solved by reinstalling? |
| 14:03.52 | linuxbox | mixfix41: that looks like the instructions on how to install kopete itself from make lol |
| 14:04.07 | linuxbox | i've got it installed on debian already, just need the plugin |
| 14:04.21 | lambocrypt | i think i should try to install sound driver again |
| 14:04.43 | linuxbox | strange that the original creator never compiled a .deb version for folks |
| 14:05.49 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: There is no "sound driver". There are kernel modules, ALSA libraries, a pulsaudio daemon and many more things on the system that could be called "sounds driver". If you don't know what you overwrote, reinstalling is the only sane way to get it fixed. |
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| 14:06.06 | linuxbox | it does indeed look like i'd have to have cmake installed to even beginning compiling this plugin |
| 14:06.34 | linuxbox | all so I can have a prettier looking gui for irc lol |
| 14:06.41 | petn-randall | linuxbox: Maybe it's easier to just one of the many IRC clients in Debian that work out of the box. |
| 14:06.46 | petn-randall | *use |
| 14:06.50 | mixfix41 | is pidgin a fork of kopete |
| 14:07.03 | lambocrypt | i think i interfare with kernel modules |
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| 14:07.33 | linuxbox | mixfix41: naw pidgin is a fork of gaim |
| 14:08.02 | linuxbox | it's just ugly because they based it on gtk |
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| 14:08.37 | linuxbox | the guys at kopete really should just include a maintained irc plugin :( |
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| 14:10.06 | lambocrypt | petn-randall: i hv lappy where debian is installed ... i will crockcheck and let u know and i wiil send u link of screenshot |
| 14:11.21 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: no thanks |
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| 14:12.15 | lambocrypt | -_- |
| 14:13.03 | n4dir | re-installation could have already finished ... |
| 14:13.56 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: It's as if you're completely ignoring my advice, and stubbonly trying to fiddle with the issue as if it was fixable. I guess I'll have to set you to /ignore if you continue. |
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| 14:16.52 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: Have you read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian yet? |
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| 14:19.20 | lambocrypt | yep i already read that time when i installed debian |
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| 14:20.18 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: So you already read that and then decided to ignore #4 anyway? |
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| 14:25.48 | peedabee | petn-randall, some people should learn to do their silly stuff in containers :) |
| 14:26.31 | Fox | they would still break containers and ask how to fix here :) |
| 14:26.48 | peedabee | coach them to use alpine containers |
| 14:27.15 | peedabee | They can bother the people over there :) |
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| 14:29.02 | Neobenedict | hia trying to install debian. what option do i pick in the installer so I can install as software raid 0? |
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| 14:30.48 | peedabee | Neobenedict, manual partitioning in the installation menu |
| 14:31.09 | peedabee | create the raid partitions -> create md device -> procede with installation |
| 14:31.10 | Neobenedict | "graphical expert install"? |
| 14:31.34 | Neobenedict | i dont see manual partitioning at the top level |
| 14:31.35 | Neobenedict | menu |
| 14:31.48 | jelly | Neobenedict: expert install (doesn't need to be graphical but I guess it can), manual partitioning, set up partitions as you like on all the disks, then set up md raid0 over the relevant partition set |
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| 14:33.25 | n4dir | i dont think for manual partitioning the expert mofe is required. |
| 14:34.34 | jelly | but expert install is the best install |
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| 14:35.28 | n4dir | nevee found a use in it - besides it sounds cool :) |
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| 14:45.28 | peedabee | I have never even seen the graphical installer debian has, I just realized. Is it any good? |
| 14:46.03 | jelly | it's exactly the same stuff as the text installer, only with a window |
| 14:46.09 | jelly | and mouse support |
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| 14:46.20 | Kelsar | shiny! |
| 14:46.36 | Kelsar | has it fancy effects? like a desktop cube? |
| 14:46.37 | petn-randall | And 256 colours! |
| 14:47.35 | peedabee | is blown away, will have to try it next time! |
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| 14:53.00 | Neobenedict | jelly: do i need LVM |
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| 14:53.48 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: it's not a requirement, but definitely a nice addition. |
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| 14:54.02 | Neobenedict | so here is where I am at now https://i.imgur.com/t5SPs5y.jpg |
| 14:54.08 | Neobenedict | I want to now add my partitions like / and /home etc |
| 14:54.13 | Neobenedict | do I go to LVM? |
| 14:54.57 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: Do you want LVM? |
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| 14:55.38 | Neobenedict | i guess? |
| 14:55.39 | Neobenedict | idk |
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| 14:56.34 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: LVM is nice because it allows to snapshot filesystems, and move them to other disks if you ever want to migrate to a faster RAID. It makes your setup more complex, though. |
| 14:56.49 | Neobenedict | snapshot filesystems for sure |
| 14:56.51 | Neobenedict | since this is raid 0 |
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| 14:56.54 | Neobenedict | need those backups >.> |
| 14:57.17 | Neobenedict | so I install LVM, then how do I make my / and /home partitions? |
| 14:57.25 | Neobenedict | is that done within LVM? |
| 14:57.28 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: Then you create a PV over the whole RAID0, then create a LV each for / and /home. |
| 14:57.30 | greycat | yes |
| 14:57.37 | Neobenedict | ok so i will make lvm now |
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| 15:02.34 | Neobenedict | does this look correct? |
| 15:02.35 | Neobenedict | https://i.imgur.com/4wKeGNi.jpg |
| 15:03.40 | jelly | Neobenedict: you do not need lvm. If you want raid0 presumably you want to squeeze every possible ounce of performance, and adding another layer won't help there. |
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| 15:04.02 | jelly | so... why do you want raid0, Neobenedict? |
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| 15:04.54 | jelly | and does this system boot with UEFI or legacy boot firmware? |
| 15:04.59 | Neobenedict | uefi |
| 15:05.12 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: I wouldn't make the filesystems so ginormous, 20 GB for / is already huge, unless you plan on having huge databases also on /. |
| 15:05.30 | jelly | then I'll withdraw from any partitioning answers, don't know how UEFI and GPT as supposed to look. |
| 15:05.40 | Neobenedict | well |
| 15:05.42 | Neobenedict | it can boot both |
| 15:05.49 | Neobenedict | which should I use? |
| 15:06.01 | jelly | whichever you know best |
| 15:06.07 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: With LVM you can always increase the LVM size on the fly, so you don't need to make the partition so huge. |
| 15:06.15 | Neobenedict | petn-randall: ok noted |
| 15:06.19 | Neobenedict | and yeah i wanna play with lvm |
| 15:06.27 | Neobenedict | now that i've learned about it |
| 15:06.35 | petn-randall | hehehe |
| 15:06.46 | petn-randall | Just remember to make regular backups! |
| 15:06.51 | Neobenedict | mhm |
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| 15:07.52 | jelly | if it were legacy BIOS boot, and MBR format and two disks, I'd suggest making a single 500MB partition with md raid1 and metadata 0.9 format for /boot, put ext3 on top, and another huge partition for md raid0 and lvm PV and lvm. |
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| 15:08.17 | petn-randall | metadata 0.9? I wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole. |
| 15:08.36 | petn-randall | You know it has alignment bugs, that can be triggered, right? |
| 15:09.01 | jelly | yes. |
| 15:09.19 | jelly | I also know that is does not matter for /boot at all |
| 15:09.35 | jelly | and that it gives a lot more boot loader options if need be |
| 15:10.23 | jelly | /boot is not typically a fs that takes thousands of iops in normal work |
| 15:11.24 | gkwhc | hey guys, i just made a udev rule & script but it is not executing. how can i diagnose it? |
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| 15:11.32 | Neobenedict | thats a little over my head jelly rn lol |
| 15:12.05 | Neobenedict | is it worth making a lvm partition for /boot |
| 15:12.06 | petn-randall | jelly: "It is also possible for there to be confusion about whether the superblock applies to a whole device or just the last partition, if that partition starts on a 64K boundary." |
| 15:12.31 | jelly | petn-randall: show me an installation where /boot is the LAST partition |
| 15:12.45 | Neobenedict | probably mine all things considered |
| 15:12.49 | Neobenedict | i'd mess it up like that |
| 15:12.49 | Neobenedict | :D |
| 15:12.52 | petn-randall | Meaning: If you have a mdadm partition at 1MB, the kernel will assume the RAID spans the complete disk. |
| 15:13.04 | jelly | no installer will do that |
| 15:13.12 | petn-randall | jelly: Sure, for /boot it's not the case, but I'd just avoid that just to be safe. |
| 15:13.21 | jelly | sure okay |
| 15:13.37 | jelly | but then you can't use grub-legacy or lilo. |
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| 15:13.58 | greycat | people still use lilo? |
| 15:14.03 | jelly | yes |
| 15:14.08 | Neobenedict | does /boot need ext3? |
| 15:14.18 | petn-randall | I'd like to meet that one person. |
| 15:14.48 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: grub2 can also read ext4, but jelly is being extra-cautious. |
| 15:15.00 | jelly | well maybe all your systems are up-to-date and you never have to deal with anything legacy |
| 15:15.12 | lambocrypt | petn-randall: i figureout the problem ...when i type aplay -l command on virtualbox debin it shows intel8280 something ok but when i type on my desktop debian it says no soundcards found... |
| 15:15.26 | jelly | and never have only old rescue images handy on some remote location |
| 15:16.04 | jelly | but that specific setup provides a lot of flexibility |
| 15:16.25 | jelly | Neobenedict: it can also be ext2 :-) |
| 15:16.32 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: You're still lost. You still need to reinstall. |
| 15:16.41 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: Have you reinstalled yet? |
| 15:17.06 | jelly | or use defaults and live with grub2, that's probably just fine |
| 15:17.47 | greycat | The vast majority of people would just use the defaults. |
| 15:17.58 | lambocrypt | not bro becuz on my host system there were so many useful files first i will try to fix if it isnt then i will reinstall |
| 15:18.26 | jelly | lambocrypt: backup useful files, reinstall, put them back |
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| 15:20.45 | lambocrypt | me and one person on linux forum having same problem and his issue got fixed by just reinstalling kernel |
| 15:20.47 | lambocrypt | :-) |
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| 15:21.43 | RoyK | lambocrypt: using kvm instead of vbox may help a bit |
| 15:22.10 | RoyK | lambocrypt: virtualbox is an oracle product and not especially well supported on debian, after all |
| 15:22.52 | petn-randall | RoyK: It's irrelevant for their issue. They've just run some random `./install.sh` as root on their host system, hosed their Debian installation, and against all better judgement refuse to reinstall, all the while pestering the channel with non-sense info/questions. |
| 15:23.13 | petn-randall | lambocrypt: Come back when you have reinstalled. Or see if ##linux is willing to help. |
| 15:23.32 | greycat | There appears to be a #vbox channel as well. |
| 15:23.35 | RoyK | petn-randall: hehe - sorry - didn't read everything above ;) |
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| 15:24.15 | RoyK | perhaps there's a #pebkac channel as well⦠|
| 15:24.19 | jelly | esp the +q part, when lambocrypt got muted and is currently unable to comment further for a while |
| 15:24.36 | petn-randall | Apparently 3 hours into the issue they're comparing a VM installation with their hosed OS in hope of finding out what happened, even though they don't remember which install.sh they ran or where it came from. |
| 15:24.46 | jelly | RoyK: ALL the channels on freenode are #pebcak |
| 15:24.57 | RoyK | not really |
| 15:24.58 | petn-randall | At this point they would have save 2 hours of their live if they just had reinstalled. |
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| 15:28.29 | Neobenedict | okay |
| 15:28.32 | Neobenedict | which kernel do i install |
| 15:28.45 | greycat | ... |
| 15:28.47 | Neobenedict | linux-image-amd64 or linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64 |
| 15:28.54 | greycat | They're the same. |
| 15:29.00 | Neobenedict | then why are both listed :( |
| 15:29.24 | greycat | linux-image-amd64 is like a symlink to the "latest stable kernel" package, which at this very moment happens to be linux-image-4.9.0-8-amd64 |
| 15:29.33 | Neobenedict | ah |
| 15:29.34 | Neobenedict | thanks |
| 15:29.34 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: One is a meta-package depending on the latest kernel, the other is exactly that version. |
| 15:30.45 | jelly | Neobenedict: install the one with the shorter name. |
| 15:30.53 | petn-randall | hehe |
| 15:31.45 | jelly | and if the dumb partitioning tool wants to span your /home over the WHOLE LVM volume group, do not let it |
| 15:32.23 | jelly | can't remember whether he searched for a bug report about that or not, probably not |
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| 15:45.11 | Ether_Man | Hi. I'm trying to follow along with https://kb.kopano.io/display/WIKI/Install+and+optimize+OpenLDAP+for+use+with+Kopano+Groupware+Core to set up openldap. Now, there are differences as there always is, like that debian (or at least my sid install does) use /usr/share/doc/kopano-* rather than everything in just kopano, but I'm missing the kopano/example-config/ldap.cfg entirely it seems. Only thing in my example-config dir for |
| 15:45.11 | Ether_Man | kopano-server is sysconfig.txt and apparmor.d dir. https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/kopano-server/filelist does say there should be a number of other example config files, though not the one I'm after :/ is there some other package I'm missing where that has been moved to or what's happened? |
| 15:45.59 | greycat | you're looking at a /sid/ link ... are you on sid? |
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| 15:46.18 | Ether_Man | Yes |
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| 15:47.29 | Ether_Man | No wait... Damn. I'm not, I'm on testing... Damn it... I selected unstable >_< |
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| 15:48.54 | petn-randall | Ether_Man: At least both package versions seem to be the same, so the results should be the same. |
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| 15:52.08 | ssarah | hei, is there a way to see color in manpages ? |
| 15:52.27 | ssarah | (through a ssh session) |
| 15:52.58 | greycat | Same way you see colors locally. |
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| 15:53.03 | chrono | #debian â¥ï¸ï¸ |
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| 15:56.06 | petn-randall | ssarah: By default man pages don't come with colours. |
| 15:56.44 | ssarah | petn-randall i did it using the apt install most; export PAGER=most thing |
| 15:56.51 | ssarah | was wondering if there was a more standard way |
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| 15:58.09 | Ether_Man | There, now I'm on sid properly with upgraded package but still missing files. Even reinstalling the package doesn't seem to install the example configs :/ |
| 15:58.40 | petn-randall | ssarah: Oh nice, I didn't notice that. I guess for it to work over SSH, you need to set the correct XTERM. |
| 15:58.43 | petn-randall | !xterm |
| 15:58.44 | dpkg | xterm is a terminal emulator for the X Window System. http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html |
| 15:58.59 | petn-randall | err, TERM |
| 15:59.01 | petn-randall | !term |
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| 15:59.59 | Asdp | Hello people. |
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| 16:01.47 | Asdp | Can anyone help me? Need to reset Debian 8 Env's. I messed up the problem is: root@server:/root# cd | -bash: cd: HOME not set |
| 16:02.13 | petn-randall | Asdp: How did you break it? |
| 16:02.18 | greycat | Log out and back in. |
| 16:02.42 | petn-randall | Asdp: If you just set it wrong in the terminal, greycat's advice is enough. |
| 16:02.44 | Asdp | i think when i've done: source /etc/apache2/envvars |
| 16:02.51 | greycat | HOME should be set by the login stuff, whether sshd or getty+login or systemd-logind. |
| 16:03.46 | Asdp | oh |
| 16:03.58 | Asdp | thanks greycat :) |
| 16:04.06 | Asdp | and you guys. |
| 16:04.25 | greycat | sourcing a file will execute all of the commands in that file in the current shell, which could do anything at all to the current shell, but hopefully not to the passwd file |
| 16:04.48 | Asdp | im feeling better now |
| 16:04.55 | Asdp | logging out and back in fixed the problem |
| 16:05.28 | Asdp | Im trying out to block the Tor network |
| 16:05.47 | Neobenedict | ok this is a disaster already |
| 16:05.49 | Neobenedict | where does /boot go |
| 16:05.53 | Neobenedict | on the LVM? |
| 16:05.56 | Neobenedict | there is nowhere else I can put it |
| 16:06.00 | Asdp | cuz im getting a lot of DoS attacks throwt Pyloris... |
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| 16:07.25 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: I'd keep it on a separate RAID1 partition in front of your RAID0. You can also put it on your RAID0+LVM, but any breakage there will make grub2 not work anymore. |
| 16:07.49 | Neobenedict | yes but I get grub fatal error petn-randall |
| 16:07.52 | Neobenedict | when trying to install grub |
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| 16:09.54 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: What error exactly? It might happen if you didn't create partitions on your two disks but used both naked disks as members of RAID0. |
| 16:10.12 | Neobenedict | no error |
| 16:10.15 | Neobenedict | just says fatal error |
| 16:10.37 | Neobenedict | spews some garbage about EFI even though I am not installing nor booting using EFI |
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| 16:10.46 | Neobenedict | selecting yes or no results in same fatal error |
| 16:11.29 | jelly | debian installer miht THINK you're booting using UEFI |
| 16:11.44 | Neobenedict | cries |
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| 16:14.16 | jelly | (but then you need like 1 or 2 more partitions, one EF00 type for efi vars and boot loaders, and maybe one more for grub's stage2? No idea) |
| 16:14.52 | jelly | I don't even know how to force debian-installer to use the MBR/BIOS boot way or the GPT/UEFI way |
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| 16:16.47 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: Do you have any other OS installed? |
| 16:17.08 | Neobenedict | no |
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| 16:26.10 | jelly | Neobenedict: are your devices larger than 2TiB or smaller? |
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| 16:26.46 | Neobenedict | smaller |
| 16:26.53 | Neobenedict | trying again |
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| 16:27.34 | petn-randall | Neobenedict: If you can, show us the actual error message. We might give you pointers to what went wrong. |
| 16:27.51 | bites | does the boot setting in bios actually say "lagacy" or something like "legacy first"? |
| 16:28.10 | choice | Hello! Is it normal that after a fresh install, root has a very different .profile then other users? |
| 16:29.05 | petn-randall | choice: sounds plausible to me. |
| 16:29.16 | Neobenedict | the error is |
| 16:29.34 | choice | petn-randall: Why? |
| 16:29.35 | Neobenedict | Unable to install GRUB in /dev/mapper. "Executing grub-install /dev/mapper failed". This is a fatal error. |
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| 16:30.06 | jelly | Neobenedict: you should install grub to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, not /dev/mapper/anything |
| 16:30.21 | Neobenedict | ok i will manually specify that |
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| 16:31.23 | jelly | whichever /dev/sd* devices currently map to your HDDs or SSDs (watch out not to install to usb stick if debian-installer is booted from one) |
| 16:31.25 | choice | petn-randall: The difference is that the normal users .profile sets PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" and PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH" if those files exists. The root users .profile does not do that. I wonder why. |
| 16:31.36 | Neobenedict | jelly: install on both SSDs? |
| 16:31.38 | Neobenedict | or just one of them? |
| 16:31.41 | Neobenedict | in raid 0 |
| 16:32.08 | jelly | well for raid0 it does not really matter, if you lose one you'll lose all data anyway |
| 16:32.13 | greycat | because you shouldn't be logging in as root and creating personal ~root/bin/foobar programs |
| 16:32.36 | jelly | choice: because root can put their own custom stuff in /usr/local/sbin anyway |
| 16:33.04 | choice | jelly: And root would normally do that and users would normally put their stuff in /home/username/bin"? |
| 16:33.33 | jelly | choice: that's where custom tools to be used only by admin go, yes |
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| 16:33.49 | greycat | root should NOT have a personally customized tool set because you should not be logging in as root for ordinary day-to-day work |
| 16:34.00 | choice | jelly: /usr/local/sbin? |
| 16:34.05 | jelly | yes |
| 16:34.09 | mtn | same as he was told in the mint channel ;) |
| 16:34.21 | jelly | there's a Mint channel on freenode now? |
| 16:34.26 | choice | jelly: Why not /root/sbin/ then? |
| 16:34.42 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 16:34.43 | mtn | jelly: nope, but there is one on spotchat |
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| 16:34.53 | jelly | choice: because it's not standardized, and is not present in root's default PATH |
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| 16:35.02 | choice | jelly: I see. |
| 16:35.32 | choice | So it's kind of a historical thing. |
| 16:35.45 | jelly | there's zero reason to make a second nonstandard path member just for root when one already exists |
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| 16:35.53 | annadane | any opinions on http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ (which is what the debian abs-guide package references) vs http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide? i guess the latter is a bit more maintained |
| 16:36.08 | jelly | does tldp.org work again? |
| 16:36.35 | greycat | abs is notoriously riddled with bad advice |
| 16:36.41 | Neobenedict | thank you jelly |
| 16:36.46 | ksk | annadane: tldp is crap and teaches you to write bugs. |
| 16:36.47 | annadane | all right, noted |
| 16:36.48 | jelly | annadane: I would trust that wooly person as far as I can throw a grey cat! |
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| 16:39.50 | choice | jelly: None of my machines has anything in /usr/local/sbin/. Is only stuff in there that one puts in manually? |
| 16:39.59 | jelly | choice: yes |
| 16:40.16 | choice | jelly: Interesting. |
| 16:40.47 | jelly | that's pretty much the definition of the whole /usr/local in FHS or FSSTND |
| 16:40.57 | choice | On my Debian machines, there is also nothing in /usr/local/bin/. On my Mint machines, there is some stuff. |
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| 16:41.57 | jelly | can't comment on derivative distro's adherence to any standards |
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| 16:43.16 | choice | Is there documentation about the /usr/local/ subdirs somewhere? |
| 16:43.22 | jelly | !fhs |
| 16:43.22 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier". |
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| 16:44.06 | choice | jelly: Thanks! Interesting. |
| 16:44.40 | Tom-_ | !lsb |
| 16:44.40 | dpkg | [lsb] Debian is dropping LSB support; see https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/ -- Linux Standard Base is a set of guidelines which all linux distributions should follow to ensure compatability between them. http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb . See also <lsb tags>, <fancytty>. |
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| 17:05.37 | rydare | Im having issues with grub. trying to do the netinstall for testing |
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| 17:06.12 | rydare | no errors reported when installing or reinstalling grub |
| 17:06.55 | rydare | but the computer cant find the drive in the boot menu |
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| 17:07.27 | rydare | its efi, im trying the install again and formatting the egi partition |
| 17:07.32 | rydare | *efi |
| 17:08.00 | rydare | since some old linux grubs were showing up |
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| 17:23.36 | rydare | fixed it |
| 17:23.59 | rydare | i think the old entries in efi were messing it up |
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| 17:37.53 | Neobenedict | can someone please help me with bonding, i get the error "bond0: option mode: unable to set because the bond device has slaves" i want 802.3ad / LACP bonding here |
| 17:37.57 | Neobenedict | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484416058522992643/484416208259645470/IMG_20180829_183601.jpg config |
| 17:38.02 | Neobenedict | of /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:38.08 | Neobenedict | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484416058522992643/484416208859299841/IMG_20180829_183611.jpg errors |
| 17:38.15 | Neobenedict | cannot pastebin because this has no working internet :p |
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| 17:44.10 | Neobenedict | ok removing those interface enps__ stuff seems to have made it work |
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| 18:30.51 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 18:31.02 | Azrael_- | i am running postfix mail server and when testing the server is on no black lists. however still a lot of the recipients tell me my mail went into spam folder. how can i test/analyze/solve this? |
| 18:31.41 | sorko999 | I've found making sure you have SPF records for all outbound domains helps. |
| 18:32.59 | sorko999 | Actually before that, make sure your IP address is properly resolving both ways |
| 18:33.33 | Azrael_- | k, the ips are already resolving fine |
| 18:33.46 | Azrael_- | for spf i have to change my infrastructure a little bit |
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| 18:35.14 | sorko999 | google in particular is starting to defer a lot sooner if the domain doesn't have an SPF. Better if you can set up DKIM as well. That takes a few more steps of course... |
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| 18:37.45 | Azrael_- | yeah, already read those things up. hoped i could avoid it |
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| 18:43.04 | Azrael_- | thanks for the hints |
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| 19:38.23 | cleerline | Hi, I am currently running linux and want to setup linux on a new parition |
| 19:38.28 | cleerline | I just got a new SSD |
| 19:38.56 | cleerline | I formated it |
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| 19:39.20 | cleerline | Now I want to use debootstrap to install debian (or anything really) on to it |
| 19:39.35 | cleerline | Is this the right place to ask questions about this? |
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| 19:43.38 | nkuttler | cleerline: sure. personally, i would just use the normal debian installer.. |
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| 19:44.29 | cleerline | I have no DVD/CD or USB at the moment |
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| 19:44.34 | cleerline | so I cant use the installer |
| 19:44.38 | nkuttler | i see |
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| 19:47.40 | cleerline | somedthimg came up. back later |
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| 20:03.16 | Benedict | how do i map python3 -m cython to /usr/bin/cython3? |
| 20:03.58 | Benedict | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.59 | Benedict | this does not work |
| 20:04.05 | greycat | dear gods |
| 20:04.23 | greycat | What you want is a shell script, not a shell command as the target of a symnlink. |
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| 20:05.05 | greycat | printf '#!/bin/sh\nexec /usr/bin/python3 -m cython "$@"\n' > /usr/local/bin/cython3 && chmod 755 "$_" |
| 20:06.05 | Benedict | ty |
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| 20:10.12 | HeXiLeD | jezzz! vlc version installed in this machine is 1.3 ?!? Version: 1:3.0.3-dmo1+deb9u2. debian 9. what repo can be used to get at least version 2? |
| 20:11.43 | ksk | ,version vlc |
| 20:11.44 | judd | Package: vlc on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; jessie: 2.2.7-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.2.7-1~deb8u1; stretch: 2.2.7-1~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 3.0.2-0+deb9u1; stretch-security: 3.0.2-0+deb9u1; buster: 3.0.3-1-3+b1; sid: 3.0.3-1-3+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo3+deb7u2; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.8-dmo1+deb8u1; stretch- |
| 20:11.45 | judd | multimedia: 1:3.0.2-dmo1+deb9u2; buster-multimedia: 1:3.0.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:3.0.4-dmo1 |
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| 20:13.05 | HeXiLeD | stretch security repos |
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| 20:13.29 | ksk | HeXiLeD: I cannot really explain why, but I think that 1: is part of a debian naming convention, and your vlc is version 3.0.3 ;) |
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| 20:13.54 | greycat | !epoch |
| 20:13.54 | dpkg | [epoch] a fixed point in a chronology or the start of an era. For example, y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. In Unix, epoch often refers to the time from which seconds are counted; epoch was is Jan 1 1970 and we will run out of 32 bit numbers for this on Jan 18 2038 (by which time we will have hopefully all migrated to 64-bit architectures). An epoch can also be used to help manage version numbering in Debian; ask me about <version epoch>. |
| 20:13.56 | wswld | Not related to previous question but does Sid have security updates repos? |
| 20:14.00 | greycat | god damn it |
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| 20:14.04 | greycat | !version epoch |
| 20:14.04 | dpkg | The version number of a package has a prepended number called the "epoch". It is only added when the system for upstream version numbers changes. Example: in sarge, X was version 6.8 but in etch it was 1.1 (xfree86->xorg). But 1 < 6, so we add an epoch "2:" to signify that everything with 2: is newer (if there is no : the epoch is assumed to be "0"). See section 5.6.12 of <policy> or ask me about <compare versions> <debian revision>. |
| 20:15.08 | ksk | grey-cat to the rescue :) |
| 20:16.21 | ksk | wswld: no, there is no security team/repo/support for sid. thats one of the reasons one should maybe not use it (in production) |
| 20:16.53 | greycat | Just in case it being called "unstable" somehow wasn't enough. |
| 20:17.08 | ksk | !tell wswld about sid security |
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| 20:18.02 | wswld | Nah, I'm using it as a personal machine, I have Testing on the VPS |
| 20:18.25 | awal1 | wswld, sid have security support done by maintainers/DD's directly for the pkgs they maintain. Stable have a special security team |
| 20:18.36 | awal1 | not sure about testing |
| 20:19.00 | ksk | !tell wswld about testing security |
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| 20:19.28 | ksk | !testing security |
| 20:19.28 | dpkg | Security updates in testing are delayed by the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing dependencies, etc. See https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing |
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| 20:19.38 | ksk | as the question arised ;) |
| 20:20.21 | wswld | dpkg, thanks! |
| 20:20.21 | dpkg | no worries, wswld |
| 20:21.02 | at0m | wswld: dpkg is a factoid bot |
| 20:21.30 | awal1 | dpkg: dpkg |
| 20:21.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 20:21.44 | at0m | !dpkgbot |
| 20:21.45 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
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| 20:22.05 | scwizard | any ideas how I'd set up systemd-resolved to listen on 127.0.0.53? |
| 20:22.14 | scwizard | "Additionally, systemd-resolved provides a local DNS stub listener on IP address 127.0.0.53 on the local loopback interface. Programs issuing DNS requests directly, bypassing any local API may be directed to this stub, in order to connect them to systemd-resolved." <- from systemd docs |
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| 20:27.21 | HeXiLeD | ksk: you are correct |
| 20:29.04 | ksk | thats good to know. see dpkgs comment about version epoch to get to know why there is a leading "1:" |
| 20:29.13 | teclo- | evening, ffmpeg says "Unknown encoder 'mp3lame'" and also Unknown encoder 'mp3' ... how do I extract audio to mp3 with this ? |
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| 20:30.57 | ksk | teclo-: your debian version is? IIRC in the past ffmpeg in the repos did not have mp3 because it is nonfree. Im however using ffmpeg from the standard repos on debian9 and have no problems handling mp3. |
| 20:32.01 | ksk | teclo-: nvermind, its named "libmp3lame", try that. |
| 20:32.04 | teclo- | ksk: this is 7.11 on an old machine, that I keep in order to run ffmpeg |
| 20:32.28 | greycat | ... seems like a bizarre thing. |
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| 20:32.43 | teclo- | ksk: indeed with libmp3lame it works |
| 20:32.57 | greycat | Why would you need to keep an old version of Debian around to run ffmpeg if your ffmpeg MP3 encoding isn't even working? |
| 20:33.02 | ksk | up2date debian versions have ffmpeg, too.. |
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| 20:33.32 | teclo- | greycat: well I know ffmpeg isn't in 8.x |
| 20:33.37 | greycat | ,v ffmpeg |
| 20:33.38 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.21-0+deb7u1; jessie-backports: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; buster: 7:4.0.2-1+b1; sid: 7:4.0.2-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1; stretch-multimedia: 10:3.3.7-dmo1+deb9u1; buster-multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2; |
| 20:33.39 | judd | sid-multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2 |
| 20:34.07 | greycat | Interesting. Well, it's in stretch, and in jessie-backports. |
| 20:34.12 | ksk | wasnt there a fork in debian8, with a different name? |
| 20:34.16 | ksk | ,v libav |
| 20:34.17 | judd | No package named 'libav' was found in amd64. |
| 20:34.20 | ksk | mhhm. |
| 20:34.22 | teclo- | greycat: indeed, sorry |
| 20:34.40 | teclo- | well I've alreaedy burned the DVD with Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 but haven't installed it yet |
| 20:34.45 | teclo- | I should have |
| 20:35.24 | somiaj | ksk: yes, there was an idea of a split between libav and ffmpeg, but they are both around now. |
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| 20:45.18 | greycat | dpkg's libav factoid seems to say that there *was* something called libav but judd doesn't seem to know about it...? |
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| 20:49.00 | greycat | ,v libav-tools |
| 20:49.01 | judd | Package: libav-tools on amd64 -- wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.21-0+deb7u1; jessie: 6:11.12-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 6:11.12-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports: 7:3.2.5-1~bpo8+1; jessie-backports: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1 |
| 20:49.15 | greycat | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libav-tools says "This package replaces the 'ffmpeg' command-line tool that was provided in earlier distroreleases." |
| 20:49.38 | Kelsar | ah, that stupid fork |
| 20:50.02 | RoyK | , ffmpeg |
| 20:50.08 | RoyK | ,v ffmpeg |
| 20:50.09 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.21-0+deb7u1; jessie-backports: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 7:3.2.10-1~deb9u1; buster: 7:4.0.2-1+b1; sid: 7:4.0.2-1+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1; stretch-multimedia: 10:3.3.7-dmo1+deb9u1; buster-multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2; sid- |
| 20:50.10 | judd | multimedia: 10:4.0.2-dmo2 |
| 20:51.08 | RoyK | not sure which is best atm - iirc the libav fork was somewhat a hostile takeover rather than a "usual" fork |
| 20:52.06 | greycat | https://libav.org/about/ is a rather interesting read. |
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| 20:56.05 | greycat | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libav and https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/libav-provider/ffmpeg as well. |
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| 21:06.27 | blackbit | hi. kernel 4.18 is out for a while, though there is no package yet even in experimental. why is that? there is a linux-image-4.18.0-trunk-amd64 but i don't know what 'trunk' means |
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| 21:14.07 | alchvmist | Hello all |
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| 21:17.42 | Ryz3qdsfW4go | anyone use tigervnc? |
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| 21:28.27 | awal1 | !kernel abi |
| 21:28.28 | dpkg | Debian kernel packages have an <ABI> to indicate when out-of-tree modules must be rebuilt; upgrading from a package with 3.2.0-3-amd64 to another 3.2.0-3-amd64 doesn't require fglrx/nvidia/etc to be rebuilt, but upgrading from 3.2.0-3-amd64 to 3.2.0-4-amd64 does. Development kernels intended for <experimental> have the ABI <trunk> to indicate the ABI is unmanaged. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelABIChanges |
| 21:28.38 | awal1 | blackbit see ^ |
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| 21:30.38 | tacocat | !ask |
| 21:30.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 21:30.44 | tacocat | Ryz3qdsfW4go, ^ |
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| 21:31.59 | mixfix41 | figured the sbc issue it has to do with being compiled with an older version of glibc speicifically 2.25 and was compiling using 2.27 :) |
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| 21:32.22 | Azrael_- | i want to use sfp for my domains. but if i want to forward emails the forwarding will fail if the forwarder is another server. i have multiple servers all as subdomains like *.myserver.com. is it possible to include all of them without explicitly enumerating them in the sfp entry? |
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| 21:37.06 | blackbit | awal1: thx |
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| 21:45.01 | hanetzer | url for ya'lls 'source' package? |
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| 21:54.30 | awal1 | hanetzer ? |
| 21:55.18 | hanetzer | awal1: the scripts and stuff ya'll use for making *.deb packages, where can I see them? |
| 21:56.50 | awal1 | hanetzer https://sources.debian.org/ you mean? |
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| 21:58.45 | hanetzer | aye, that's it. and that's so obvious I shoulda guessed :P |
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| 22:00.28 | awal1 | ;) |
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| 22:04.42 | mixfix41 | thoguh it gets me confused that back when i was using the debian sbc.git when it was on github i was already using an older version of glibc |
| 22:04.57 | mixfix41 | but I actually found a copy of the file i had saved on one of my computers |
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| 22:05.02 | mixfix41 | maybe i will throw it back on there and share |
| 22:05.51 | mixfix41 | but first lets see if I can compile a newer sbc with glibc 225 before getting into it |
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| 22:09.08 | _alx_ | why does it take so long to download "select install software" ? |
| 22:09.25 | _alx_ | download is not the right term⦠im' tired |
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| 22:11.41 | onpora | hello, how can I fix the error "can't load uri https://website.com: Error resolving 'website.com': Temporary failure in name resolution" ? |
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| 22:18.47 | ksk | onpora: fix your dns? do other domains resolve? |
| 22:20.50 | onpora | ksk, other domains cannot be pinged, either |
| 22:21.02 | onpora | I mean pinging IPs work, but domain names not |
| 22:21.11 | onpora | works* |
| 22:21.24 | ksk | I assume you are on a desktop? |
| 22:21.29 | onpora | ksk, laptop |
| 22:21.37 | ksk | then use the tools your DE gives you regarding network |
| 22:21.43 | onpora | I changed nameserver to 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 but didnt help |
| 22:22.08 | ksk | thats unlikely. |
| 22:22.11 | onpora | ksk, I am not familiar with this..I dont know what tools you mean |
| 22:22.21 | ksk | Im afraid Im not a desktop guy, so I cannot really help you. |
| 22:22.33 | ksk | might be network manager is available for you. |
| 22:23.09 | ksk | what does "host google.com 8.8.8.8" give you? |
| 22:23.22 | ksk | if that works, you somehow failed to set your DNS server. |
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| 22:25.14 | onpora | ksk, it doesnt work |
| 22:25.16 | jasabella | onpora⦠cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 22:25.30 | jasabella | what output do you get? |
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| 22:25.33 | empty_string | onpora: are you on a university or work network where DNS outside your network might be filtered? |
| 22:25.41 | ksk | the command I suggested does not output "does not work" I am sure.. |
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| 22:27.03 | empty_string | if so, you should ask your network admins what you should use as a DNS server, and maybe work with them to figure out why you didn't get those with DHCP or something |
| 22:27.30 | onpora | ksk, sorry, will post it in a min |
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| 22:28.57 | onpora | ksk, it says ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached" |
| 22:29.15 | onpora | empty_string, no, it is not a university or work network |
| 22:30.00 | onpora | jasabella, 'nameserver 10.137.2.1 nameserver 10.137.2.254' |
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| 22:30.19 | jasabella | now try ping 10.137.2.1 and ping 10.137.2.254 |
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| 22:30.59 | mpo | nj/j ##linux |
| 22:31.44 | jasabella | well it could lead to debian specific things, like /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:33.40 | onpora | jasabella, both ping |
| 22:34.12 | onpora | mpo, if I understand that notation correctly, I've been on linux channel, |
| 22:34.39 | jasabella | onpora⦠nc -vz 10.137.2.1 53 |
| 22:34.52 | jasabella | might put in a -u for good measure |
| 22:35.18 | onpora | we tried a number of things including those with iptables, and at the end my helper preferred not to interfere further with settings as it might break things |
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| 22:37.16 | onpora | jasabella, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1039874 |
| 22:38.45 | jasabella | i'm not sure how you're able to ping if your routing table isnt set up properly heh |
| 22:38.56 | jasabella | what's ip route say? |
| 22:41.10 | onpora | jasabella, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1039852 |
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| 22:44.28 | jasabella | this part looks weird but i'm not a networking person: inet 10.137.2.13/32 brd 10.255.255.255 |
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| 22:46.11 | jasabella | ip neigh? is your arp table ok? |
| 22:47.05 | ksk | this should most likely be /24 and not /32 |
| 22:47.16 | ksk | or you will need a hostroute or other strange things to reach your gateway. |
| 22:48.07 | jasabella | based on the broadcast address it looks like it should be /8 |
| 22:48.19 | onpora | ksk, where can I change it and try the alternatives? |
| 22:48.21 | jasabella | but the dns hosts suggest /24 like you say |
| 22:48.37 | ksk | onpora: is it a "normal home setup"? |
| 22:48.50 | onpora | ksk, it is a VM |
| 22:48.53 | ksk | why dont you just use dhcp? does internet work with other computers or devices |
| 22:48.56 | jasabella | onpora⦠cat /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:48.58 | ksk | oh boy.. |
| 22:49.16 | ksk | thanks for telling us now, after we spent like an hour debugging. |
| 22:49.44 | onpora | ksk, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1039875 |
| 22:49.57 | ksk | it then totally depends on how you network your VM. there is probably documentation for your virtualisation technology which describes the ways to do networking. |
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| 22:50.07 | onpora | oh sorry wrong paste |
| 22:50.35 | onpora | ksk, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1039876 |
| 22:51.36 | jasabella | onpora⦠ls /etc/network/interfaces.d |
| 22:52.23 | onpora | sorry ksk, I didn't think about it |
| 22:52.57 | onpora | jasabella, no output, empty |
| 22:53.11 | RoyK | or something about "for n in /etc/network/interfaces.d/* ; do echo --------- this is $n ---------- ; cat $n ; done" |
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| 22:53.33 | RoyK | is this debian or raspbian or something? |
| 22:53.37 | jasabella | are you using networkmanager or something else to manage your interfces? i'm not familiar with networkmanager |
| 22:57.59 | onpora | jasabella, yes, it is NetworkManager |
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| 22:59.13 | jasabella | your answer will be somewhere in here: https://people.freedesktop.org/~lkundrak/nm-docs/ |
| 23:01.36 | jasabella | nmtui might make things easier, otherwise use the gui |
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| 23:07.11 | onpora | no idea what these all are |
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| 23:08.21 | ruffni | i have *somehow* messed up my networking configuration on my mbp (BCM43602), now networking service won't start anymore. ifup tries to connect to my local wifi but ends up not getting a response. kernel mentions: "brcmfmac: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43602-pcie.txt". brcmfmac shows up in `lsmod`. |
| 23:08.45 | ruffni | any ideas? |
| 23:11.05 | jasabella | onpora⦠you're looking to change your subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 (or 255.0.0.0) |
| 23:13.44 | jasabella | but speak to a networking person, here be dragons :) |
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| 23:16.46 | jasabella | ruffni⦠a quick google suggests there are known bugs but ymmv |
| 23:18.19 | onpora | thank you for your help, jasabella, ksk..I think I give up here.. |
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| 23:20.59 | ruffni | the thing is: it used to work. do i have to reinstall the whole thing? tried `dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown` and compared the firmware file to one freshly downloaded... how can i pin down where the problem comes from? |
| 23:21.07 | onpora | have a good day / night ! :( |
| 23:21.09 | onpora | :) |
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| 23:36.48 | Brigo | ruffni, have you installed a new kernel or something? where do you get the firmware from? |
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| 23:41.16 | ruffni | from git.kernel.org, as reffered to in https://wiki.debian.org/brcmfmac |
| 23:41.47 | ruffni | and yes, i upgraded something, which i believe failed? it's quite some time ago... |
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