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| 00:08.00 | enoq | how do I run a2ensite without triggering notifications? |
| 00:09.38 | enoq | oops, wrong channel |
| 00:09.39 | sZbcE8qNfG | what kind of notifications? |
| 00:09.45 | enoq | #ansible |
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| 00:09.56 | sZbcE8qNfG | oh ok |
| 00:10.13 | enoq | seems like theres no module for that yet unfortunately |
| 00:10.38 | sZbcE8qNfG | dont like ansible, puppet, or other modern complicated ways |
| 00:10.56 | enoq | kinda becomes a necessity depending on the size |
| 00:12.12 | sZbcE8qNfG | nah |
| 00:12.32 | enoq | set up a mail server two years ago and needed to migrate machines |
| 00:12.41 | enoq | had no clue what I did to get it working |
| 00:12.52 | enoq | now its documented and testable with vagrant |
| 00:12.56 | sZbcE8qNfG | use a vm |
| 00:13.37 | sZbcE8qNfG | snapshot the image |
| 00:13.53 | sZbcE8qNfG | i really dont see how these new garbage tools fix anything |
| 00:14.20 | sZbcE8qNfG | the old fashioned way was simpler, faster, and you didn't need all the telemetric garbage thtat needed to be isntalled on your server |
| 00:14.41 | enoq | ansible is only ssh |
| 00:14.52 | enoq | the issue is with evolving things |
| 00:15.00 | sZbcE8qNfG | what is evolving??? |
| 00:15.04 | enoq | you set up your server and you need to change a config |
| 00:15.09 | sZbcE8qNfG | stop writing 10 thousand layers of abstraction |
| 00:15.20 | enoq | what services need to be restarted? |
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| 02:42.09 | rawf | Hi. I'm having trouble using ADB in debian (works fine in Ubuntu on the same machine). ADB commands can take up to a minute to complete, completely fail, or run instantly. Does anyone have an idea what might be wrong? |
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| 02:45.27 | rawf | Turned out it was a firewall issue ._. my own fault. |
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| 04:02.31 | factor | Does anyone know of a debian iso that is just a gui boot loader? |
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| 04:03.24 | factor | I dont need it instalig anything , just need it as a boot loader for other drives. |
| 04:03.57 | sZbcE8qNfG | can;;t you use the netinstall? |
| 04:04.26 | factor | Will that work if I need to script it to auto boot to a specific drive |
| 04:05.13 | sZbcE8qNfG | can;t you mark the drive/partition bootable in fdisk and then boot from the bios? |
| 04:05.26 | sZbcE8qNfG | (with some bios options that need to be toggled) |
| 04:05.28 | factor | I have a Gigabyte mb had shorted out my mb now falling back to using this one, but does not boot linux. GA-78lmt-usb3 |
| 04:05.56 | factor | nope |
| 04:06.14 | factor | this mb will not let an internal hd boot linux |
| 04:06.34 | sZbcE8qNfG | some setting int he bios options, turn off uefi? |
| 04:06.43 | factor | I can use a usb boot, which is what I want to just auto boot to my sata |
| 04:07.01 | sZbcE8qNfG | turn off uefi booting and try (secure boot) |
| 04:07.10 | factor | not an option only uefi |
| 04:07.28 | factor | Will check |
| 04:07.44 | sZbcE8qNfG | i think all bioses support both.....but the legacy boot option is almost always hidden/contrived |
| 04:07.59 | sZbcE8qNfG | you just need to look for it |
| 04:09.29 | factor | nope this one looks for windows files on boot up. |
| 04:09.36 | factor | non-efi or efi |
| 04:10.07 | factor | but falls over to my usb boot device |
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| 04:10.29 | factor | I will be happy for now if I can just auto boot debian from a bootable debian |
| 04:10.31 | factor | usb |
| 04:10.54 | factor | boot usb then auto boot sata |
| 04:11.24 | factor | so net install should work. |
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| 04:12.04 | sZbcE8qNfG | yeah |
| 04:12.19 | factor | ok, will try that , off to get a small usb stick |
| 04:12.22 | sZbcE8qNfG | you should be able to boot from the eisting mbr |
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| 04:12.42 | sZbcE8qNfG | but i never tried that someone else might have a better idea |
| 04:13.04 | sZbcE8qNfG | if it me, i just reinstall, it's fast enough to just reinstalled..3-4 hours |
| 04:13.19 | factor | no the mb does not install linux |
| 04:13.31 | factor | no boot you can read up on it |
| 04:13.38 | factor | it looks for windows files |
| 04:13.56 | factor | the mbr will work in most other boards , not this one |
| 04:14.21 | factor | reinstall wont help anything and lose all my data |
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| 04:19.36 | cortex_ | https://thehackernews.com/2018/09/linux-kernel-exploit.html |
| 04:19.39 | cortex_ | Debian is patched? |
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| 04:20.47 | LibertyWeNeed | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.15 | cortex_ | and this ? https://threatpost.com/another-linux-kernel-bug-surfaces-allowing-root-access/137800/ |
| 04:25.32 | nyov | LibertyWeNeed: You'll need to be more explicit about what you mean with "start up items" |
| 04:26.35 | sZbcE8qNfG | lose all your data/' |
| 04:26.56 | sZbcE8qNfG | connect the HDD to another compn and transfer the data |
| 04:26.56 | LibertyWeNeed | well in ubuntu there is an application called "Startup Applications" which I could add programs to automatically startup at login. But that doesn't seem to be available in debian |
| 04:27.11 | sZbcE8qNfG | if you used raid and you depended on the hw raid controller....then you lost all your ata |
| 04:27.34 | LibertyWeNeed | I want to automatically run apps like syncthing after logging in |
| 04:28.59 | sZbcE8qNfG | why syncthing? |
| 04:29.12 | nyov | I suppose you mean something like a GNOME application there, sorry I don't have any idea about those - or what ubuntu might be shipping there that debian doesn't |
| 04:29.45 | sZbcE8qNfG | i thought their one way sync was really buggy...and the regular sync........ |
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| 04:32.43 | LibertyWeNeed | syncthing has worked really well for me |
| 04:33.05 | LibertyWeNeed | Does anyone know how to easily get apps to start at login? |
| 04:33.16 | LibertyWeNeed | a GUI method is preferred |
| 04:33.35 | themill | "login to what" would be a good place to start |
| 04:34.00 | sZbcE8qNfG | which DE? |
| 04:34.01 | LibertyWeNeed | when I log in to my debian computer. |
| 04:34.19 | sZbcE8qNfG | depends on whta time of app and what type of DE? |
| 04:34.28 | nyov | must be gnome3 ^^ |
| 04:34.40 | sZbcE8qNfG | ... |
| 04:34.42 | LibertyWeNeed | its the latest stable version using the GNOME desktop |
| 04:34.48 | sZbcE8qNfG | ... |
| 04:34.57 | sZbcE8qNfG | sorry i dont use virus trojan DE |
| 04:35.01 | sZbcE8qNfG | someone else maybe help |
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| 04:36.00 | sZbcE8qNfG | reddit.com/r/privacy and reddit.com/r/privacytoolsio if you want to learn about all the ex$cellent stuff gnome virus has been implementing |
| 04:36.11 | sZbcE8qNfG | https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html |
| 04:37.16 | sZbcE8qNfG | if you doubt, search for the mac address in the tools setion |
| 04:37.17 | themill | sZbcE8qNfG: you're not helping. again. |
| 04:37.27 | sZbcE8qNfG | search for the mac addr |
| 04:38.39 | themill | LibertyWeNeed: you can drop .desktop files into ~/.config/autostart; IIRC the gui is in gnome-tweak-tool |
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| 04:39.05 | LibertyWeNeed | thank you themill ! |
| 04:39.16 | sZbcE8qNfG | https://www.zdnet.com/article/uh-oh-now-googles-cataloging-mac-addresses/ |
| 04:39.59 | cortex_ | lo |
| 04:40.01 | cortex_ | lol |
| 04:40.29 | nyov | sZbcE8qNfG: wait, Google is collecting info? Breaking News! |
| 04:41.08 | sZbcE8qNfG | https://superuser.com/questions/243669/how-to-avoid-exposing-my-mac-address-when-using-ipv6 |
| 04:41.12 | sZbcE8qNfG | the future is coming |
| 04:41.21 | sZbcE8qNfG | thanks for advancing the agenada |
| 04:41.52 | sZbcE8qNfG | cloudflare is dominating the man in the middle infrastructure |
| 04:42.00 | sZbcE8qNfG | thanks for advancing it |
| 04:42.06 | sZbcE8qNfG | good job |
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| 04:42.15 | nyov | you're on the wrong channel for it, though -.- |
| 04:43.52 | LibertyWeNeed | themill: I don't understand what you mean by drop .desktop files into ~/.config/autostart ?? I tried the GUI but I can't find away to autostart the command "syncthing" because the application is not visible in the gnome apps tray. |
| 04:44.09 | themill | You'd have to write a .desktop file then |
| 04:45.04 | nyov | LibertyWeNeed: https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en |
| 04:45.07 | themill | ~/.config/autostart-scripts/ may also be supported by gnome |
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| 04:50.57 | LibertyWeNeed | themill: I found the .config/autostart-scripts thing. now what? how do I add syncthing? |
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| 04:51.34 | LibertyWeNeed | well more precisely I found ~/.config/autostart |
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| 04:55.29 | themill | syncthing comes with a systemd unit; are you sure you need to start it this way? |
| 04:55.50 | LibertyWeNeed | not sure. if you know of an easier way |
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| 07:15.32 | themill | factor: rescue mode might help, but the netinst uses syslinux not grub |
| 07:15.48 | themill | (or at least it used to be syslinux and I don't recall hearing that has changed) |
| 07:15.56 | factor | ahh, why I could not find it. that is like a bootable cdrom |
| 07:16.09 | themill | it *is* a bootable cd-rom ;) |
| 07:16.18 | factor | do you know of an iso that boots into grub? |
| 07:16.37 | factor | no but I plugged in my cdrm for the first time in a decade I think |
| 07:16.49 | factor | working with a slightly older board |
| 07:17.00 | factor | and it does not boot linux |
| 07:17.02 | themill | the netinst rescue mode boots off the ISO and then lets you chroot in to fix grub |
| 07:17.19 | factor | but will boot from a usb stick, then I can use grub to boot the internal sata |
| 07:17.31 | factor | no fix |
| 07:17.36 | factor | the board wont boot Linux |
| 07:17.47 | factor | I need to boot to grub on a usb stick |
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| 07:18.02 | factor | the MBR and grub work fine in any other board |
| 07:18.33 | purpleunicorn | Should I use Debian or Ubuntu or gallium? Iâve used ubuntu in the past but Iâm still a beginner when it comes to Linux distorts |
| 07:18.36 | purpleunicorn | Distros |
| 07:19.02 | factor | working with any distro is fine |
| 07:19.11 | factor | ubuntu is the easiest. |
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| 07:20.04 | purpleunicorn | Yeah I figure |
| 07:20.14 | purpleunicorn | Figured* |
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| 07:58.26 | purpleunicorn | Will a Chromebook cause issues when downloading Debian |
| 07:58.50 | at0m | why would it |
| 07:59.37 | at0m | it's a download like any other. can you put the .iso on a usb stick from chromebook? |
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| 08:01.43 | purpleunicorn | I wouldnât want it as dual boot |
| 08:01.56 | purpleunicorn | Or just to have Debian and no other os |
| 08:02.47 | purpleunicorn | Nvm |
| 08:02.51 | purpleunicorn | What I said |
| 08:03.02 | at0m | purpleunicorn: right, but you need the .iso on a bootable medium. CD/DVD/usb stick/SD card |
| 08:03.36 | at0m | ..regardless of your final installation destination |
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| 08:05.58 | nyov | has anyone ever considered rebasing Mer core on debian? :D |
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| 08:06.55 | factor | Anyone know where syslinux is on netinstall iso image directory tree. |
| 08:07.21 | nyov | root? |
| 08:07.55 | factor | will check |
| 08:08.04 | factor | root user or / |
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| 08:08.28 | nyov | if it's used to boot it, I would first check / |
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| 08:08.46 | factor | under what directory? |
| 08:08.55 | nyov | or are you looking for a package |
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| 08:09.40 | factor | nope for the syslinux config file , so I can change it to boot to an internal hard drive |
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| 08:12.46 | nyov | I just checked my usb: ldlinux.sys, vmlinuz, syslinux.cfg, initrd.gz |
| 08:12.49 | nyov | is what you need |
| 08:13.35 | factor | ahh ok cool |
| 08:14.06 | nyov | you know you could also use tianocore for uefi booting? |
| 08:14.31 | nyov | if syslinux doesn't pan out |
| 08:14.55 | factor | what is tianocore |
| 08:15.43 | nyov | and then you can install grubefi onto your usb stick |
| 08:15.58 | nyov | https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall |
| 08:16.17 | nyov | at least that's something I had in the past |
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| 08:16.57 | nyov | https://www.tianocore.org/ |
| 08:17.49 | factor | oh nifty GrubEFIreinstall looks promising |
| 08:19.14 | nyov | that's like installing 'legacy' grub into your usb stick boot sector (or whatever). you'll get some "Shellx64.efi" MS-DOS executable which your uefi bios should find and boot |
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| 08:23.37 | factor | the refind imag was not bootable |
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| 08:24.42 | factor | Will try the Syslinux method |
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| 08:29.47 | themill | not that I can see within Debian |
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| 09:27.51 | Eightynine | I have added snap support and installed Firefox snap but it didn't appear in menu. What should I do? |
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| 09:30.00 | glick | hi, does anyone know why my usb mounts a readonly when i plug it in? |
| 09:30.12 | glick | i ran the mount command and its mounted as ro |
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| 09:31.49 | Eightynine | Hi. Can you check this USB device under Windows? |
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| 09:32.38 | teclo- | glick: you can remount in readwrite with mount -o remount -o rw |
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| 09:33.35 | glick | teclo i have to to use the dev name though right? |
| 09:33.56 | teclo- | glick: yes you have to put /dev/xxxxx |
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| 09:34.24 | nyov | also check your dmesg output for a set fat32 error flag, by not unmounting correctly |
| 09:34.38 | nyov | perhaps your fstab says to remount-ro on errors |
| 09:34.56 | glick | teclo-, what would the command look like? |
| 09:35.23 | teclo- | glick: uhhh I don't know for sure |
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| 09:57.26 | remo | Hi. I'm backup system tar cjpf * and restore to another system tar xjpf. Run system and all ok, but virtual console C-A-F1 -- F12 not work. Why. How to fix this ? |
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| 10:07.45 | antto | which package do i install to get this "npm" program? it seems it might be related to nodejs (i installed that already) |
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| 10:11.29 | diogenes_ | antto, https://tecadmin.net/install-latest-nodejs-npm-on-debian/ |
| 10:12.08 | nyov | antto: npm? |
| 10:12.15 | nyov | ,v npm |
| 10:12.16 | judd | Package: npm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2; buster: 5.8.0+ds5-1; sid: 5.8.0+ds5-1 |
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| 10:13.36 | antto | i'm trying to build something that seems to require nodejs, git, and yarn |
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| 10:15.36 | antto | i'm on debian stable, and i got stretch-backports added into synaptic, so i already installed the backports version of nodejs.. |
| 10:15.43 | petn-randall | antto: It was removed before stable release because of quality reasons. You'll have to install it from upstream. |
| 10:16.27 | antto | "from upstream" <- where can i read about how to do that? |
| 10:16.47 | nyov | glick: you could find the device with `ls /dev/disk/by-id/usb*`, and I would try to run an `fsck.vfat /dev/disk/...` on it, if its a standard fat32. |
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| 10:18.04 | petn-randall | antto: "upstream" is the general name for the project where the code comes from. So you want to have a look at the npm website for how to install it. |
| 10:18.39 | antto | :/ |
| 10:18.50 | nyov | antto: perhpas first try diogenes_' link |
| 10:18.59 | nyov | *perhaps |
| 10:19.41 | antto | that situation where you download something and run it as root, or add some foreign stuff to sources.list? |
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| 10:20.03 | nyov | exactly ;) |
| 10:20.14 | antto | i wished to avoid doing those sort of things |
| 10:20.21 | antto | maybe it's not worth it |
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| 10:46.58 | BCMM | antto: it's probably npm *or* yarn |
| 10:47.12 | BCMM | npm is popular, yarn is a little less messy |
| 10:47.44 | BCMM | also in my experience yarn works OK with the debian-provided version and npm is not happy unless you install the very latest manually and just let it mess up the filesystem |
| 10:47.44 | antto | i've no idea about these things, so i'd better not mess up my debian |
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| 11:56.28 | candidat | hello :) |
| 11:56.35 | candidat | how do you look for a nickname on irc ? |
| 11:57.47 | NetTerminalGene | ,kernels |
| 11:57.48 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.19.0-rc4-686-pae (4.19~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 4.18.0-1-686-pae (4.18.8-1); buster: 4.18.0-1-686-pae (4.18.6-1); stretch-backports: 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.18.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-8-686-pae (4.9.110-3+deb9u4); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.8-686-pae |
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| 12:05.36 | candidat | hey |
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| 12:07.24 | JohnA | I am writing a renew-hook for letsencrypt. one of its functions is to launch a delayed task to remove old TLSA records. Which would it be "better" to manage the delay 'at' or 'systemd-run'? |
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| 12:09.37 | petn-randall | candidat: What do you mean with that? |
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| 12:13.53 | candidat | petn-randall i mean, how do you find a user on irc. I want to chat with a guy named rypervenche |
| 12:14.32 | candidat | there was a command !find username |
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| 12:14.41 | candidat | !find rypervenche |
| 12:15.09 | candidat | idk |
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| 12:15.47 | JohnA | !find JohnA |
| 12:16.06 | JohnA | !find petn-randall |
| 12:16.21 | candidat | !find JohnA |
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| 12:22.29 | candidat | anybody here can coach me to be a good linux sys admin ? |
| 12:23.12 | diogenes_ | alway check for open ports :) |
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| 12:24.41 | petn-randall | candidat: This is a Debian support channel. We can help you with specific issues, but we can't coach you to become a sysadmin. I recommend checking the local Linux user group in your town, larger cities also have meetups for Linux sysadmins. |
| 12:25.18 | candidat | cool ! i ll do that. Thanks petn-randall |
| 12:25.33 | JyZyXEL | online classes have also become prevalent |
| 12:26.01 | candidat | diogenes_ yes they enter the network trought open ports :)) |
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| 12:27.03 | candidat | JyZyXEL yes like video tutorials on youtube or other online tutoring video class |
| 12:27.21 | JyZyXEL | exactly |
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| 12:51.41 | litb | hello all |
| 12:51.50 | litb | my mouse's scrolling doesn't work. |
| 12:51.57 | litb | this was the same on archlinux.. now on debian |
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| 12:52.18 | litb | I suspect it's the fault of evdev -> libinput transition. something in libinput seems to not work |
| 12:52.22 | RoyK | litb: does it work with another mouse? |
| 12:52.30 | iflema | touchpad? |
| 12:52.38 | litb | testing the wheel over "xev" shows that the event often sends the wrong button number |
| 12:52.58 | litb | which in the apps cause the scrolling to not work correctly. it just jumps around randomly when i scroll |
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| 12:53.13 | litb | normal vertical mouse with multiple buttons and a normal wheel |
| 12:53.25 | litb | "Anker Wireless Vertical Mouse" |
| 12:53.35 | iflema | battery? |
| 12:53.40 | litb | RoyK, yes, other vertical mice work |
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| 12:54.46 | litb | sorry, I meant other mice work. i tested a microsoft basic optical mouse |
| 12:54.53 | iflema | whipping up a fury, dominating flurry |
| 12:55.10 | litb | iflema, i replaced battery and the behavior doesn't change |
| 12:55.59 | litb | maybe I should try and replace the input driver to xorg-input-evdev ? |
| 12:56.40 | iflema | whats a vertical mouse |
| 12:57.01 | iflema | doesnt go sideways? |
| 12:57.14 | litb | what do you mean? |
| 12:57.30 | iflema | oh high |
| 12:57.39 | litb | ah i see. it goes sideways. but you don't have to rotate your hand to hold it |
| 12:57.50 | iflema | half a mongre |
| 12:58.44 | litb | personally i would vote for "normal" mice to be called horizontal mice instead |
| 12:59.45 | iflema | rotate... i see |
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| 13:01.06 | litb | and it also avoids bending your wrist |
| 13:01.44 | iflema | get a inverted mouse... and mix it up |
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| 13:02.11 | iflema | rotate all 3... |
| 13:03.05 | iflema | palm up |
| 13:03.35 | litb | what should I rotate? |
| 13:03.44 | litb | do you mean i should rotate the mouse around all three axes? |
| 13:03.55 | litb | by how many degrees? 360? |
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| 13:04.03 | iflema | vertical keyboard.... |
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| 13:05.55 | iflema | like a A frame /\ |
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| 13:17.16 | vjacob | should one have to install additional software/do any manual configuration normally to get audio devices working on debian? |
| 13:17.38 | vjacob | It's not my experience in the past, but right now I am starting to wonder if later |
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| 13:18.15 | vjacob | versions of debian might have changed or if the version of debian I installed (XFCE/cdrom) does not come with all the stuff needed for sound |
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| 13:22.58 | iflema | whats alsamixer say? did you get any info out of pulseaudio? |
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| 13:26.04 | iflema | if using pulseaudio... |
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| 13:44.18 | zleap | hi all |
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| 13:45.36 | vjacob | iflema, apparently the sound card is there, works in vlc and with 'speaker-test' and all, but even though firefox has a dependency on pulseaudio... |
| 13:45.48 | zleap | is installing debian 9.5 non free, so he can use devices such as arduino / microbit without the problems linked to ubuntu based distributions |
| 13:45.49 | vjacob | it seems that the prerequisites for pulse audio have not been installed when firefox was installed |
| 13:46.08 | vjacob | oops. |
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| 14:06.52 | candidat | god are you there ? |
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| 14:07.32 | candidat | :-) |
| 14:07.36 | candidat | hey friends ! |
| 14:09.24 | dvs | candidat, Hello, Margaret |
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| 14:36.18 | zleap | yay warzone2100 works under debian 9.5 - deb 1 ubuntu,mint et al 0 |
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| 14:39.00 | outoftime | candidat: he didn't respond because you wrote his name started with letter in lowercase. |
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| 14:42.31 | jelly | it's more of a title than Her name |
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| 15:09.59 | nebunez | Hello, new user of Debian here. I'm looking for status bar applets for i3 that work with the default Debian DE. |
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| 15:11.55 | mtn | nebunez: what de? i3 usually is used in place of a de |
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| 15:14.00 | mtn | nebunez: anyway, you could look at the arch wiki on i3 to learn all you ever wanted to know about it ;) |
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| 15:14.50 | nebunez | When I installed Debian I checked only 'Debian DE' which installed gnome stuff |
| 15:15.38 | mtn | nebunez: ah, then you have gnome. |
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| 15:16.19 | nebunez | then I installed i3 and I'm using tha |
| 15:16.22 | nebunez | that* |
| 15:16.47 | mtn | nebunez: again, arch wiki for the win |
| 15:16.59 | nebunez | for example, I used Xubuntu before and when I installed i3, there were applets already in i3 |
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| 15:17.34 | nebunez | are you referring to this page? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3 |
| 15:17.56 | mtn | nebunez: yes, that is the i3 wiki page |
| 15:18.38 | nebunez | I'll read through but I don't see anything about applets on a quick search |
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| 15:19.28 | mtn | nebunez: well, if you are referring to putting applets on the gnome bar, that will not work very well. that is a gnome issue, not i3 |
| 15:19.41 | nebunez | no, I'm looking for applets for the i3 bar |
| 15:19.58 | mtn | nebunez: i3 does not come with a bar. you add one. the wiki explains it |
| 15:19.59 | nebunez | which I thought gnome applets would work, but it seems to not be the case |
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| 15:20.22 | mtn | nebunez: sorry, you add components to the i3 bar |
| 15:20.37 | mtn | nebunez: and there are alternatives, too |
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| 15:22.59 | mtn | nebunez: the wiki has a section on the bar, too. lots and lots of info about using i3 |
| 15:23.32 | nebunez | cool, that points me in the right direction, thanks |
| 15:23.39 | mtn | nebunez: welcome |
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| 15:33.44 | outoftime | Reading Instalation Guide, section "6.3.3.1 |
| 15:33.50 | outoftime | Supported partitioning options" |
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| 15:34.19 | outoftime | I can not find tmpfs in supported FSs |
| 15:36.29 | outoftime | Is it supported during installation? I'd like my /tmp to use tmpfs. Is there way to set it up during installation? |
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| 15:41.09 | jelly | outoftime: tmpfs is backed by RAM and swap, no partition |
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| 15:43.18 | outoftime | jelly: So I can set /tmp to tmpfs during installation? |
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| 15:46.28 | jelly | outoftime: well. definitely not during partitioning, and I don;t know if there's a way to set it somewhere else |
| 15:48.13 | jelly | release upgrade scripts going from debian 8 to debian 9 seem to enable it by doing "cp /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount /etc/systemd/system/tmp.mount" |
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| 15:48.23 | jelly | outoftime: so I guess you can do that after installation |
| 15:49.05 | jelly | and reboot |
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| 15:52.27 | outoftime | jelly: Thank you for an advice. I've done similar on ubuntu using /etc/fstab... Reading docs how it works with systemd. |
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| 15:54.59 | jelly | a fstab entry should also still work |
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| 15:58.33 | outoftime | jelly: "Note that the options User= and Group= are not useful for mount units. systemd passes two parameters to mount(8); the values of What= and Where=. When invoked in this way, mount(8) does not read any options from /etc/fstab, and must be run as UID 0." it will, looks like systemd creates hard links in addition to /etc/fstab and uses `mount` utility. |
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| 16:24.47 | outoftime | jelly: "Mount units may either be configured via unit files, or via /etc/fstab (see fstab(5) for details). Mounts listed in /etc/fstab will be converted into native units dynamically at boot and when the configuration of the system manager is reloaded. In general, configuring mount points through /etc/fstab is the preferred approach. See systemd-fstab-generator(8) for details about the conversion." |
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| 16:24.53 | outoftime | looks like /etc/fstab should be used as first option |
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| 17:37.07 | awal1 | exim4 needed for send bugs? |
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| 17:44.31 | awal1 | n_1-c_k, ok :) |
| 17:47.39 | zleap | hi n_1-c_k ,I think i recognize you from #dcglug |
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| 18:11.03 | zleap | so who was buster (deb 10 codename) in toystory, I know bullseye (deb 11 codename) was the horse |
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| 18:15.31 | outoftime | Can I mix usual partitioning with LVM? For an example, I have /dev/sda6 where I want my debian to live. |
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| 18:22.31 | format_c | outoftime: AFAIK you cannot mix. under the hood LVM implicitely uses aclassic partition structure to sperarate the LVM code from the data. |
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| 18:29.44 | jelly | !buster |
| 18:29.44 | dpkg | The release following Debian 9 "Stretch" is codenamed "Buster" (Andy's pet Dachshund in Toy Story) and will be Debian 10. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html |
| 18:30.38 | zleap | thanks |
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| 18:32.02 | zleap | Link: http://amzn.eu/d/4y57YCk |
| 18:32.18 | zleap | amazon - disney's toy story plus bullseye |
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| 19:16.26 | uniqdom | debian-next is an invite only channel. is there another channel to talk about Debian Buster? |
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| 19:16.46 | at0m | uniqdom: -next is on irc.oftc.net |
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| 19:16.54 | uniqdom | I see |
| 19:17.34 | at0m | they were there before freenode existed |
| 19:18.06 | at0m | freenode came later, and #debian was added cos so many were on this network |
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| 19:37.54 | peer101_ | hii |
| 19:38.03 | peer101_ | helo al |
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| 19:38.13 | peer101_ | how r u all?? |
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| 19:39.14 | jelly | at0m: actually, all the official #debian* channels existed on freenode first, and moved off to oftc around 2005 |
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| 19:39.45 | at0m | jelly: oh. thanks for setting that straight |
| 19:39.54 | jelly | !irc move |
| 19:39.54 | dpkg | irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
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| 19:41.00 | peer101_ | hiii |
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| 19:41.20 | jelly | peer101_: fine, but note this is mostly a tech support channel and not a chat channel so don't be surprised about the lack of chat |
| 19:41.54 | peer101_ | ok sorry |
| 19:41.57 | jelly | there's ##chat or #debian-offtopic if you want to chat |
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| 19:50.30 | Kobaz | what's a good way to boot a system from an initrd shell |
| 19:50.55 | Kobaz | something is wacked out.. .even though root is being passed as /dev/sda1... initrd is mounting /dev/sdb1 as /root |
| 19:51.01 | Kobaz | and then of course things fail |
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| 19:51.17 | Kobaz | i can mount the proper root in /root, and then i forgot how to kickstart it |
| 19:51.48 | jelly | just exit the initramfs shell I think |
| 19:51.57 | jelly | !debug initramfs |
| 19:51.57 | dpkg | rumour has it, initramfsdebug is http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug |
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| 19:52.55 | A|an | I'm running Debian 9 w/ Gnome Classic...installed x11vnc earlier...an icon is placed in the center of the top panel, allowing the user to control the application...with x11vnc, though, clicking the icon does nothing and to kill the app you have to resort to a killall at the comm |
| 19:53.05 | A|an | It's obviously a Gnome thing...how can I fix that? I've looked for a config file, with no l |
| 19:53.13 | A|an | luck |
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| 19:54.47 | jelly | Gigglebyte, 07IAAE81V: there are two of you |
| 19:55.09 | jelly | better |
| 19:56.03 | jelly | A|an: x11vnc takes a number of command line argument to work, I think |
| 19:56.27 | Gigglebyte | For reasons unknown my Hexchat is logging on in duplicate, and I haven't figured out why. |
| 19:56.36 | Gigglebyte | Program isn't auto idenitfying correctly as well. |
| 19:56.47 | jelly | A|an: eg. I have an alias that does "x11vnc -display :0 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/passwd -localhost" |
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| 19:57.25 | jelly | might have two separate server tabs open and remembered for some reason |
| 19:57.28 | A|an | ah |
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| 19:58.07 | A|an | well, I'd installed it on ubuntu mate on a laptop and I didn't have to do anything extra...it just worked right outta the gate |
| 19:58.13 | Gigglebyte | jelly> Don't see two separate server tabs. |
| 19:58.15 | A|an | so the manpage, huh? |
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| 19:59.16 | Gigglebyte | Alan> Just curious what type of laptop you have? I am looking for another laptop and don't like the System76 I bought (Cleavo). However, it has a bright display and good features. There is insufficient driver support. |
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| 20:00.01 | A|an | it's an old dell n5040 |
| 20:00.31 | jelly | A|an: if I start it from the menu, a window form named "Select x11vnc port" is opened; however it opens on second monitor for some reason |
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| 20:01.20 | A|an | it had win10 on it...the privious owner hated it (she's not very computer savvy) and I wiped it and installed ubuntu mate on it and it runs like a top |
| 20:02.04 | A|an | I'm not encountering that problem... |
| 20:02.49 | A|an | oh, wait...it initially opens a dialog (very verbose, btw) indicating the port to be used... |
| 20:03.26 | jelly | it's a different distro, quite possible they have a saner wrapper. If you have access to that machine you can look at the process list and se how exactly they're calling x11vnc after that |
| 20:03.30 | A|an | you ok that, there's a lengthy pause, then it opens a second window in which you can allow certain actions... |
| 20:03.43 | jelly | eg. ps -fe|grep x11vnc |
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| 20:04.14 | A|an | yes, the wrapper...I was wondering how big a deal is it to adust that for debian's version |
| 20:04.25 | A|an | I can't find a config file |
| 20:04.31 | A|an | how's it done? |
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| 20:05.01 | A|an | the app works, it's just that one thing, it can't be killed easily |
| 20:05.32 | jelly | for me it dies right after the first session disconnects |
| 20:05.45 | jelly | it's also killable with ^C |
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| 20:06.16 | jelly | but again, I usually start it from a terminal over ssh |
| 20:06.39 | A|an | I can't kill it with cntl-C |
| 20:06.49 | A|an | It's annoying |
| 20:06.56 | A|an | it works great otherwise |
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| 20:07.35 | A|an | second session? what do you mean? |
| 20:07.59 | A|an | two icons appear at the panel bar? |
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| 20:58.54 | Tom-_ | ws2k3, root has a different .profile on debian, try checking /root/.profile |
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| 21:05.55 | n4dir | how would i configure a touchpad, the speed of the mouse ? window-manager is openbox. To me the wiki page ain't clear |
| 21:06.30 | n4dir | ii xserver-xorg-input-libinput |
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| 21:26.56 | n4dir | i did "xinput list"; "xinput list-props 12" and then: "xinput set-prop 12 285 1" The speed of the mouse is now slightly better, but i don't get any further. |
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| 21:45.28 | Iarfen | hi! |
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| 21:46.36 | mentor | raidghost: What do you mean by merge partitions to grub? |
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| 21:49.02 | outoftime | Iarfen: !ask |
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| 21:50.15 | Iarfen | outoftime: well, I've asked on other channels |
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| 21:58.56 | abuz_ | hi |
| 21:59.19 | abuz_ | how can I run a -dbg kernel image? |
| 21:59.36 | abuz_ | I installed it, but it is not added in grub |
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| 23:45.44 | pagetelegram | How or what package contains npm? Trying to install Wire per instructions: https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop |
| 23:45.57 | pagetelegram | I'm using Sparky, debian 9 |
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| 23:47.10 | sZbcE8qNfG | nodejs? |
| 23:47.18 | phogg | pagetelegram: the npm package contains npm. |
| 23:47.27 | pagetelegram | Says I'm up to date |
| 23:47.39 | pagetelegram | npm returns no results with apt-get |
| 23:47.47 | sZbcE8qNfG | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/nodejs |
| 23:47.52 | sZbcE8qNfG | i think it's part of nodejs |
| 23:48.23 | pagetelegram | System says nodejs is installed. Tho npm not recognized. |
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| 23:49.34 | n4dir | apt-file search npm; doesn't tell me anything, but you might want to look at the output yourself. |
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| 23:51.29 | pagetelegram | apt-file not a recognized command. Perhaps I need something heavier than Sparky to do what I need. Any recommendations? I like to use WindowMaker however will resort to any bs DE if only I can get stuff to work. My rez limited to VGA 1024x768, so screen estate high value. |
| 23:52.25 | pagetelegram | Maybe I |
| 23:52.48 | pagetelegram | ll just install debian 9 and install what I want from it's installer? |
| 23:53.32 | pagetelegram | I've invested some work into Sparky already tho I'm not liking all the apearent "walls" |
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| 23:55.42 | pagetelegram | just use OpenBox for now I guess on deb 9. I've had all my websites hacked (single host) so I'm at a tipping point now on giving up on a lot of stuff. Though I need to be able to do work. Windows turned out to be too much of a vulnerability so my only feasible option is to use some linux distro and I'm already somewhat familar with debbies. |
| 23:56.35 | pagetelegram | WindowMakerLive is my utmost prefered Distro however I don't have a working optical drive and can't install on thumb with that. |
| 23:56.57 | pagetelegram | besides it is deb8 anyways |
| 23:57.38 | pagetelegram | I guess I needed to rant* sorry to pollute. Wish there were more distros designed around Wmaker |
| 23:59.45 | pagetelegram | Any case I need to get Wire up and running by Tuesday morning for a research study I'm in. |