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| 00:10.58 | detly | is it possible to be in an interactive bash session but make a command think it's being run in a non-interactive session? |
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| 00:15.43 | n4dir | i can't really answer that question, but if you say what the problem behind is, i might have a link. |
| 00:18.04 | detly | I have a set of commands that are run in a docker instance on a CI system. On the CI system, they're run non-interactively via however Gitlab does it. I'm trying to debug it locally, but some jobs (eg apt-get, even with DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive and -y -qq) will stop when backgrounded because they're waiting for input, so I want to run them non-interactively, just as they are on the CI system. |
| 00:18.35 | themill | what input are they waiting for> |
| 00:18.46 | detly | I don't know, if I foreground it it finishes instantly |
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| 00:19.40 | themill | do you actually mean foreground and background? |
| 00:19.58 | themill | those are terms from job control not from interactivity |
| 00:20.26 | detly | themill: nope, I run apt-get -y -qq install (bunch of packages) &, it ends up stopped, I do fg %1, it finishes |
| 00:20.38 | detly | themill: sure, but it doesn't stop waiting for input if run non-interactively |
| 00:20.51 | themill | why are you running it in the background |
| 00:20.55 | detly | there are other commands that might do this too though, I'd just like to eliminate one more variable while debugging |
| 00:21.10 | themill | jobs will stop in the background if they have output, not just if they're waiting for input |
| 00:21.26 | detly | themill: I background it so it can download in parallel with other things that don't depend on it |
| 00:21.56 | detly | themill: I was not aware of that, maybe I need to pipe that to /dev/null |
| 00:23.51 | themill | For CI, I'd always prioritise simplicity of development and debugging over speed. Unless you're installing texlive-full, it's hard to imagine this is an optimisation that is worth it. |
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| 00:29.59 | detly | themill: this is amazing - I am, in fact, installing texlive-full |
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| 00:30.17 | themill | heh |
| 00:30.31 | detly | anyway, you're probably right, gitlab's runners are reasonably fast |
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| 00:31.09 | themill | I assume they already have things like eatmydata enabled |
| 00:31.40 | detly | I mainly wanted to eliminate it as a possible source of weirdness ie. one less variable, but from what you say, that's probably not it |
| 00:32.04 | themill | there's a reasonable chance you don't actually need texlive-full btw. Highly unlikely you need the texlive*doc packages for building, for insdtance |
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| 00:33.36 | detly | I agree, it's part of the debugging |
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| 02:16.25 | agio | bramford: how are you simulating the broken connection? |
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| 02:16.52 | bramford | agio: What's odd is that `ps` shows the shell command in the list even after the client quits/disconnects. I expected sshd to kill the proc as the user quit/disconnected. |
| 02:17.02 | agio | no |
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| 02:17.18 | agio | you should watch the tcp connections |
| 02:17.34 | bramford | agio: Yeah I'll see if it's still there |
| 02:17.53 | agio | I believe ssh will keep the process alive - at least as long as TCP connection is up |
| 02:17.55 | bramford | agio: I assumed it'd timeout after 60s or whatever the default is |
| 02:18.13 | agio | TCP tries to be tenacious and cling on - no matter what |
| 02:18.34 | bramford | agio: Hmm I'm sure there'll be a default TCP timeout |
| 02:18.42 | bramford | I'll check sysctl |
| 02:18.52 | agio | there is a file in somewhere in /proc or /sys |
| 02:19.20 | agio | which tells you kernels value - last time I checked it was something like 7200 |
| 02:19.22 | agio | secs |
| 02:19.51 | agio | but either way - I dont think thats what decides it. |
| 02:20.19 | bramford | Yeah I just saw that in sysctl now - 7200 is a very long time |
| 02:21.10 | agio | 2 hours I think? I would watch TCP connetions - they will change state - usually it takes about 5mins before the remote will give up - via another console mean |
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| 02:22.04 | agio | I mean you will need to establish another console to watch ssh connections |
| 02:22.34 | bramford | Yeah, I'll watch the connection on the remote |
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| 02:26.07 | bramford | agio: `ss -ntp` should do it right? I saw the connection disappear immediately on the server (upon quit/Ctrl-C on client) but shell is still in `ps` |
| 02:26.59 | bramford | By "shell" I mean the `/bin/sh -c` with the trap, etc. |
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| 02:27.20 | agio | Ctrl-c on client won't reach remote |
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| 02:27.54 | agio | the local tty driver will just send the signal to the local process leader (your local shell) |
| 02:28.33 | agio | the command I would use is `netstat -pnt' |
| 02:29.10 | agio | on debian its in `net-tools' package |
| 02:30.01 | bramford | I thought `netstat`'s usage was deprecated in favour of `ss`? |
| 02:30.20 | bramford | Anyway, I'll see if the output is different |
| 02:31.00 | agio | yeah, it is deprecated - but netstat is great - and gives me exactly what I want |
| 02:31.50 | bramford | ... Said every SysV supporter ever :D |
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| 02:37.57 | bramford | agio: Same output with both netstat & ss. Anyway, connection is ESTABLISHED while the client is active. On client Ctrl-C, connection is removed from the output (on the server). |
| 02:38.38 | bramford | Anyway, thanks for the help, I'll pick this up again later. |
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| 04:12.04 | asterismo_l | hi |
| 04:12.34 | asterismo_l | is there anyway to get Qualcomm 2723A-UNDP1 WAN 3G card working in Debian 8? |
| 04:12.46 | asterismo_l | its a mini PCI laptop card |
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| 04:38.09 | asterismo_l | anyone? |
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| 04:41.39 | jelly | asterismo_l, what's its pci id? |
| 04:41.59 | asterismo_l | mmm |
| 04:42.04 | jelly | lspci -nn, find the line for the card |
| 04:42.59 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1052168/ |
| 04:43.55 | asterismo_l | not sure which one is |
| 04:44.45 | asterismo_l | this is the card |
| 04:44.48 | asterismo_l | https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MjgAAOSwfcVUHf87/s-l500.jpg |
| 04:44.52 | jelly | doesn't seem to be present at all |
| 04:45.14 | jelly | you may be hitting #790109 |
| 04:45.16 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/790109 in modemmanager (open): «modemmanager: mm in jessie breaks gobi 1000 - qmi version problem(?)»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-06-27; last modified: 2016-10-03. |
| 04:45.50 | jelly | asterismo_l, or it might be something simpler, like your laptop accepting only whitelisted cards |
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| 04:46.39 | asterismo_l | whitelisted cards? |
| 04:47.06 | asterismo_l | its a panasonic toughbook cf-31 mk1 |
| 04:47.44 | jelly | asterismo_l, what about "lsusb", is is present there? |
| 04:49.52 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/1052170/ |
| 04:49.55 | jelly | asterismo_l, some laptop vendors only accept specific cards, so you have to either buy their own, more expensive, parts or hack the bios if possible |
| 04:50.00 | asterismo_l | mmm |
| 04:50.05 | asterismo_l | dont think so |
| 04:52.24 | jelly | the fact there's no pci device at all suggests that may be the case |
| 04:53.38 | jelly | that 483377-002 part number suggests it's a HP part |
| 04:56.43 | asterismo_l | so it wont work in the panasonic? |
| 04:57.45 | asterismo_l | that is not my card |
| 04:57.53 | asterismo_l | is one like mine |
| 04:58.34 | asterismo_l | i pulled out of a Sony Vaio Pocket laptop |
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| 04:59.22 | awal1 | if my system calls swap bcoz of heavy use it never stops using it after heavy work finished. I always have to run swapoff -a |
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| 05:00.26 | awal1 | i know it takes a bit of time but in my case it won't stop using swap |
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| 05:00.43 | awal1 | just a few mo used but that slows my system |
| 05:00.48 | jelly | asterismo_l, I guess you'll first want to figure out whether CF-31 has bios whitelists for cards or not. Some web search results suggest a wwan card would not work before enabling in bios and/or updating bios version (to one from 2010 ;-) |
| 05:01.25 | asterismo_l | this is my card |
| 05:01.30 | asterismo_l | https://postimg.cc/dkZ7rLFq |
| 05:02.12 | asterismo_l | jelly, i did not find any wwan setting in bios |
| 05:02.30 | jelly | asterismo_l, does the machine have an antenna for wwan at all? |
| 05:03.25 | jelly | was it advertised with a wwan option when it was new? |
| 05:03.33 | asterismo_l | it has a SIM card slot |
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| 05:07.59 | jelly | asterismo_l, i see some antenna cables here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N3FGgI05PM&t=2m00s |
| 05:08.31 | jelly | does your machine have those and did you connect them |
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| 05:10.03 | jelly | 3G is probably not going to work without some sort of antenna, even if you get the device to appear in lspci |
| 05:15.54 | asterismo_l | yes |
| 05:16.01 | asterismo_l | cables are connected now |
| 05:16.11 | asterismo_l | there were not connected |
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| 05:21.38 | asterismo_l | i dont see any bios updates in panasonic page |
| 05:21.53 | asterismo_l | i will check again |
| 05:21.54 | asterismo_l | brb |
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| 05:29.57 | asterismo_l | hi |
| 05:30.07 | asterismo_l | i cannot see the card in the bios |
| 05:30.13 | asterismo_l | but the laptop itself supports it |
| 05:30.22 | asterismo_l | it has the antenna, etc |
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| 05:37.55 | jelly | asterismo_l, googles says there were fixes for serial in 2010 bios updates. that may or may not be relevant. I don't know anything about toughbooks, but other laptops I've seen had options to enable ot disable WWAN in BIOS. In any case, you have a hw compatibility issue right now, not a Debian issue. |
| 05:39.23 | asterismo_l | anyway, i cannot update the bios rigth now, i only have debian installed, i guess i would have to install windows in another drive.... and run the bios upgrade tool whatever... |
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| 05:40.28 | jelly | asterismo_l, http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/cf-31-wwan-hardware.627616/ says something about "unlock the gobi capability" |
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| 05:50.24 | fuxxy | mount -t nfs -o sec=krb5 10.10.24.2:/Vault271 /mnt/Vault271_nfs |
| 05:50.24 | fuxxy | mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified - Any ideas? |
| 05:52.36 | piercedwater | use ntf3g |
| 05:52.43 | piercedwater | lemme look one sec |
| 05:52.54 | fuxxy | NFS, not nTfs |
| 05:53.00 | piercedwater | oh sorry |
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| 05:58.07 | shtrb | anyone have an idea what colorcorrectlocationupdater actually does ? |
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| 06:03.58 | diogenes_ | shtrb, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ICC_profiles |
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| 06:10.21 | fuxxy | both the nfs-common and the mount packages are the same version across the working system and the test system.. The kernel versions are different, though. |
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| 06:15.30 | fuxxy | a reboot seems to have sorted the issue |
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| 06:20.37 | shtrb | diogenes_, wow thanks , does it actually query something to get the geo location ? |
| 06:21.49 | diogenes_ | shtrb, no clue |
| 06:21.56 | shtrb | oh thanks |
| 06:22.56 | shtrb | I found the source and seen latitude and longitude setting but couldn't uderstand the relation to color |
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| 06:41.36 | jelly | shtrb: long,lat help figuring out sunset and sunrise times if your color correction thingy does blue-light reduction during nighttime |
| 06:41.37 | jelly | see also: f.lux, redshift |
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| 06:58.21 | CrazyTux | what is the distinction between stable and testing? |
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| 07:14.12 | strk | why is /etc/profile not sourced by gdm nor the gnome terminal ? |
| 07:14.28 | strk | I mean... I see the effects of it when logging in via ssh but not when starting a terminal from within XWindows |
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| 07:16.42 | strk | the shell started by terminal is bash 4.4.12, the desktop environment is Mate |
| 07:16.54 | strk | desktop manager is lightdm |
| 07:19.42 | shtrb | jelly, for redshift there is an external module (where you expect it to contact a remote server) this was found in plasma settings (not as a systemd service) |
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| 07:20.55 | jelly | shtrb: eh, I give it rough coordinates on the command line anyway |
| 07:21.07 | at0m | shtrb: geoclue-2.0 |
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| 07:21.39 | at0m | shtrb: i do rough coordinates, too. doesn't matter if it's 1° off =) |
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| 07:22.10 | shtrb | my issue is to avoid network usage (also let's continue at #d-o) |
| 07:22.26 | strk | it looks like defining the vars in /etc/environment helped |
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| 11:26.42 | jelly | warbaque: which debian release |
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| 11:28.12 | shtrb | warbaque, can you give us few more lines around it ? |
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| 11:32.47 | warbaque | jelly: sid, samba version: 2:4.9.2+dfsg-1 |
| 11:33.13 | jelly | sid? check the bug reports |
| 11:33.19 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 11:33.20 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 11:33.38 | shtrb | warbaque, are you installing after you did su ? |
| 11:33.56 | jelly | warbaque: if there are none that look relevant, then ask in ^ that channel on that network |
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| 11:34.21 | shtrb | and can you give us few lines around (there is a very good chance you are getting an error related to missing application in path which is a common mistake when doing su instead of su - ) |
| 11:34.28 | jelly | not here tho. |
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| 11:34.54 | shtrb | the su issue since jessy |
| 11:35.11 | shtrb | *jessie |
| 11:36.03 | jelly | but sure, whole output will be helpful for the -next people, |
| 11:36.04 | jelly | !bat |
| 11:36.05 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 11:40.03 | warbaque | I had some held packages. Fixed dependencies and it works now |
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| 11:42.56 | shtrb | still, when coming with an issue sharing some extra data would help |
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| 12:08.19 | InvisibleRasta | heya ,how to install PyCharm IDE on debian stretch? |
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| 12:09.10 | bites | you go to their site, download it, unpack the tarball and run the script that starts the IDE. |
| 12:09.17 | InvisibleRasta | ah |
| 12:09.23 | InvisibleRasta | i ahve to run script all time? |
| 12:09.31 | InvisibleRasta | ther is no deb file or repo??? |
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| 12:10.05 | bites | it's not in the debian repos. |
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| 12:10.50 | bites | but you can put a symlink somewhere in your $PATH, which is what i do, or create a desktop file, which i think is done automatically after you run pycharm the first time... i don't remember. |
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| 12:12.16 | Sia- | hi, hwo can enable smb2 or 3 in debian 9? |
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| 12:12.56 | Sia- | i have this in my config https://pastebin.com/raw/vSfbrZc7 |
| 12:13.02 | Sia- | but is just smb1 |
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| 12:32.21 | RandomSerb | is there a way to tell router/modem to renew your ip? |
| 12:32.40 | RandomSerb | note I'm on stretch, desktop machine. ifconfig no longer exist. |
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| 12:34.58 | shtrb | dhclient -r |
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| 12:40.24 | InvisibleRasta | ifconfig is part of net-tools package |
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| 12:41.26 | Guest75238 | InvisibleRasta, ifconfig is deprecated in stretch, right? |
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| 12:41.49 | abrotman | still there though, but yes |
| 12:41.56 | abrotman | it's been deprecated for years |
| 12:42.10 | RandomSerb | abrotman, I thought it was deprecated since stretch |
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| 12:52.16 | abrotman | I think they changed the package priority in stretch |
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| 12:55.43 | abrotman | RandomSerb: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00780.html |
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| 12:59.32 | antto | grrrrrr damn u gnome files >:( |
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| 13:21.24 | jelly | ,v testssl.sh |
| 13:21.25 | judd | Package: testssl.sh on amd64 -- stretch: 2.8~rc3+dfsg1-1; buster: 2.9.5-5+dfsg1-1; sid: 2.9.5-5+dfsg1-1 |
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| 13:22.23 | bipul | jelly, just need a help regarding preseed method of installation. |
| 13:22.30 | bipul | :( |
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| 13:24.02 | jelly | bipul: sorry, busy |
| 13:24.05 | bipul | jelly, Please see this steps https://pastebin.com/raw/4UWdB1pD and kindly ignore the word "*buntu" |
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| 13:25.42 | jelly | bipul: please look up "busy" in the dictionary |
| 13:25.47 | jelly | !ask |
| 13:25.47 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 13:32.13 | bipul | okay :) |
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| 13:38.34 | jelly | sorry, that was needlessly rude from me |
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| 13:39.14 | simbalion | Hi, I'm having a hell of a time getting cronjobs that play audio to work reliably. If I'm watching a video in mpv or on Netflix, they will not play. But if I execute the same command from a shell in an xterm while video is playing, it works fine. How do I fix this? |
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| 13:56.51 | Ede|Popede | simbalion: several years ago i wanted to receive a regular (but rare) signal this way. iirc the problem were the standard file descriptors. i think i solved this by putting them to /dev/null and probably /dev/zero |
| 13:57.30 | simbalion | Ede|Popede: but it plays when video isn't playing? I assumed it was an audio device thing |
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| 13:57.58 | Ede|Popede | given that i remember correctly, `script` may also be of help (in my case it was a short signal, it would stop after this so no further I/O needed) |
| 14:01.17 | Ede|Popede | simbalion: then maybe another thing i was struggling with a few times. i start some stuff from screen, after having been kicked out from X i couldn't use the restored session anymore for mplayer. had to define the correct X cookie in the corresponging shell in screen, the value still was set to the old one. maybe it doesn't get connection to the sound server because of a wrong preset value. |
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| 14:02.34 | simbalion | Here's what syslog says: pulseaudio[13972]: [alsa-sink-ALC1150 Analog] alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy |
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| 14:08.54 | shtrb | simbalion, it could be that pulse is using something like a dbus to interact ? so your script need to use the exact dbus message bus as a user running X ? |
| 14:09.36 | simbalion | shtrb: thats over my head to be honest |
| 14:09.40 | shtrb | for instance when i need to use send-alert i do sudo -u $user DISPLAY=$screen DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS /usr/bin/notify-send "$@" (per user ) |
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| 14:10.33 | shtrb | try setting up dbus_session in cron for the first user for example (the one with X) DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/$uid/bus |
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| 14:11.13 | shtrb | simbalion, that way it will be run with the user credntials, X and dbus session (assuming your cron job running as root and you can switch to the first user) |
| 14:11.50 | simbalion | in that error, is the dbus address front:0 ? |
| 14:12.09 | shtrb | sorry , I thought you are running from a script not mpv |
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| 14:12.28 | shtrb | it look like your screen address |
| 14:12.40 | Ede|Popede | a wrapper script may help with >log 2>&1 |
| 14:13.26 | simbalion | shtrb: The command is /usr/bin/mpg321 somefile.mp3 |
| 14:13.34 | simbalion | and it works from CLI while mpv is running |
| 14:13.39 | simbalion | or while netflix is playing in firefox |
| 14:13.43 | simbalion | but it doesn't work from cron |
| 14:13.44 | shtrb | *look like your sink not screen |
| 14:14.06 | simbalion | and when the video stops, paused or exited, it plays as if it was buffered or something |
| 14:14.10 | simbalion | the sound* |
| 14:14.49 | simbalion | So it only breaks as part of a cron job |
| 14:14.59 | simbalion | and only in conflict with other apps using audio |
| 14:15.14 | shtrb | cron runs in a different context try with the sudo + dbus approach |
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| 14:20.54 | aphorise | How do I get / install linux-headers-4.19.0-rc7-amd64? - try doing `apt-get -t experimental ...` |
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| 14:26.24 | simbalion | Tried the DBUS method, but that did not fix it. The command runs according to the output log but then pulseaudio complaints that it can't open the PCM device because it's busy |
| 14:26.41 | simbalion | "Nov 18 09:26:02 wargamer pulseaudio[13972]: [alsa-sink-ALC1150 Analog] alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: Device or resource busy" |
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| 14:28.35 | shtrb | simbalion, try with a sudo -u simalion DISPLAY=... |
| 14:28.45 | simbalion | shtrb: I did |
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| 14:40.00 | Ede|Popede | simbalion: you could also try to see the differences between the both environments. instead of the player do 'set > $HOME/cron.set' and do a diff with the settings from inside X. may give a hint if some value is missing or not correct. |
| 14:40.58 | piterkepan | czesc |
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| 14:45.36 | simbalion | Ede|Popede: lol the cron ver has like 8 lines and the term ver has like 200 lines and is completely different |
| 14:46.28 | Ede|Popede | simbalion: righto. and one of the variables (you can skip the functions and aliases) from the beginning may be relevant |
| 14:47.20 | Ede|Popede | must admit, the output was really impressive in the beginning. if you ever used dos you know the limits there :) |
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| 14:49.54 | simbalion | yeah doesn't seem like it |
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| 14:53.06 | woenx | Hi. I would like some advice regarding user permissions on shared folders. |
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| 14:54.15 | woenx | I have some personal shared folders. I do not want any other user to be able to access my directories, but I need some other programs (like apache) to be access my folders. |
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| 14:55.07 | woenx | the thing is, there are some other folders which are owned by me, and want all other users to have read permissions |
| 14:55.30 | woenx | but I do not want to give read permissions to "others", for security reasons |
| 14:55.36 | woenx | what would be the correct approach? |
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| 14:57.18 | at0m | woenx: groups |
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| 14:57.58 | woenx | I was thinking of creating a "family" group and changing the main shared folders (the ones everyone has to access) to that group |
| 14:58.06 | woenx | and then add people to that group. Would that be reasonable? |
| 14:58.09 | aphorise | I finally had success with linux-headers-4.19.0-rc7-amd64 - this fixed my ethernet - now I am struglling with nvidia... is there anyway of obtaining kernel 4.15 from apt / repo's? |
| 14:58.18 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 14:58.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.19.0-rc7-686-pae (4.19~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.18.0-2-686-pae (4.18.10-2+b1); buster: 4.18.0-2-686-pae (4.18.10-2+b1); stretch-backports: 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.18.6-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-8-686-pae (4.9.130-2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.8-686-pae (4.9.110-3+deb9u5~deb8u1); |
| 14:58.20 | judd | wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1) |
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| 15:00.16 | at0m | woenx: right. add www-data user to a group that can read folders, and the other users to the group that can read your shares. chown youruser:group these folders, and make sure chown 640 them, too. or if you just chown 644 the folders you want to share with *, you don't need a group for that |
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| 15:01.01 | woenx | aha |
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| 15:01.36 | woenx | Ok, I'll try that, I hope I don't break anything :) |
| 15:01.37 | at0m | s/chown 644/chmod 755 |
| 15:01.47 | woenx | I prefer using 750, just in case |
| 15:01.50 | at0m | woenx: sorry i forgot the executable bit |
| 15:01.55 | at0m | exactly |
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| 15:03.07 | woenx | so, for instance, I have a folder with pictures that everyone in my family should be able to access (but only I have permissions to write). right now the owner and the group it's me. I could change the group to a new group called "family" and all my family usernames to that group, right? |
| 15:03.49 | woenx | (I just don't want anyone who can connect to my wifi to be able to browser those folders, just my family) |
| 15:04.20 | at0m | how are you sharing the files? nfs? samba? |
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| 15:05.17 | at0m | is your family using accounts on the same computer? |
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| 15:07.14 | woenx | yes |
| 15:07.20 | woenx | well, the accounts are defined on a debian server |
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| 15:07.35 | woenx | which are accessed from a couple computers via sshfs |
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| 15:09.54 | woenx | oh, that's another problem. the folder is mounted as one of the users, so the mounted folders appear as if they belong to the user that mounted them |
| 15:09.56 | woenx | hmmmm |
| 15:09.58 | at0m | sshfs is quite some overhead if all machines are on the lan. |
| 15:10.27 | at0m | (assuming machines on the lan are trusted) |
| 15:10.35 | woenx | it's through wifi. but it's just three computers, so it's no big deal. Performance is acceptable. |
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| 15:11.24 | woenx | what would you suggest instead of sshfs? |
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| 15:11.58 | at0m | nfs if they're all linux machines |
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| 15:13.02 | woenx | Mmm, currently they are. |
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| 15:13.43 | at0m | i use nfs here, and that maxes out network connections (ok maybe not the gigalan) |
| 15:13.50 | woenx | I guess I could use mainly NFS for mounting folders, and then sshfs when I need to access those folders from outside my network |
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| 15:13.56 | at0m | exactly |
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| 15:14.03 | woenx | how is NFS, security wise? |
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| 15:17.31 | at0m | woenx: maybe man nfs and check "security considerations" there |
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| 15:18.37 | at0m | woenx: since i'm the sole user (ok, and my family) on the lan, i don't care much for auth once on the LAN, so i haven't bothered setting up any authorization scheme |
| 15:18.54 | woenx | Yep, me neither... until now |
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| 15:19.37 | woenx | Ok, I'm going to restart to test something, brb |
| 15:19.47 | woenx | (thanks for your advice) |
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| 15:26.06 | ibanja | ''xdg-settings set default-web-browser firefox.desktop'' returns "thunderbird.desktop" |
| 15:26.06 | ibanja | running the command ''xdg-settings set default-web-browser firefox-esr.desktop'' does not change it. |
| 15:26.07 | ibanja | Any ideas why this is happening? I also tried making a file ''~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list'' and adding: text/html=firefox-esr.desktop; |
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| 15:30.34 | simbalion | Nobody knows the answer in #pulseaudio. This is proof that audio is still broken in linux, I think. |
| 15:30.56 | simbalion | I hate Windows but scheduled tasks can play audio without hanging because a video is running. |
| 15:31.09 | simbalion | it's a pretty simple thing that shouldn't be impossible. |
| 15:31.42 | simbalion | it's weird that audio has been such a failure for 30 years |
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| 15:36.53 | simbalion | Is there an app that runs in X-windows for scheduling tasks? |
| 15:38.03 | abrotman | for a human, or for the computer? |
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| 15:43.22 | Dyl0n | Hi all ! |
| 15:43.42 | darkghost7 | hi Dul0n |
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| 15:49.19 | blz | Hello, I just added a new HDD to my box, but I don't see it appearing in /dev/. I'm not sure what to do from here. |
| 15:49.27 | blz | Any help would be much appreciated |
| 15:50.16 | joop_ | blz: Perhaps it's a BIOS related issue? Can you see your drive in the BIOS? |
| 15:50.38 | blz | joop_: good call. Give me a minute to check. |
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| 15:52.17 | bites | what kind of hdd? can you see it in lsblk or dmesg? |
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| 15:55.09 | blz | joop_: wtf I can't the disk list in my bios :( |
| 15:55.33 | joop_ | That's odd |
| 15:55.37 | blz | ah no false alram. |
| 15:55.38 | blz | my bad |
| 15:55.40 | bites | does it spin up? maybe try a different cable and connector. |
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| 15:58.52 | blz | joop_: ok this is odd. Of my 7 storage devices, 3 are missing from BIOS but only 1 is missing from /dev ... |
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| 16:00.05 | Brigo | blz, can you connect that disk to another computer? |
| 16:00.11 | joop_ | Perhaps your motherboard has two SATA-controllers. My old Gigabyte motherboard used to have that. |
| 16:00.24 | blz | Brigo: sadly not. |
| 16:00.34 | blz | This is the only desktop I have access to these days... |
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| 16:00.40 | joop_ | Oh that's sad/ |
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| 16:01.50 | blz | So when I boot, I get a 'ata7: softreset failed (device not ready)' . Could this be related? |
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| 16:02.13 | Brigo | blz, yes |
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| 16:02.22 | blz | I probably should have started by mentioning that. Apologies. |
| 16:02.35 | Brigo | blz, it would be nice to know the related device. |
| 16:02.51 | blz | Brigo: How can I check? |
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| 16:03.51 | Brigo | blz, not sure, maybe that ata7 is a clue |
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| 16:14.08 | blz | Brigo, joop_ : hand-copied logs from dmesg: https://hastebin.com/enacapamut.http |
| 16:14.22 | blz | Thoughts? |
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| 16:15.07 | Brigo | blz, unplug the disk and check if the errors disapears |
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| 16:21.31 | joop_ | Could be a faulty port, cable or drive controller. |
| 16:23.00 | Brigo | joop_, or the controller itself or just the disk. |
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| 16:23.23 | joop_ | yeh. |
| 16:23.40 | joop_ | blz: do you have another random disk laying around? |
| 16:23.58 | blz | No, I bought this one to replace a faulty disk in a raid array :/ |
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| 16:24.37 | joop_ | Brigo, blz: Would be nice if you could test the system {without the disk, with another disk on that port} |
| 16:25.03 | blz | joop_ Brigo : http://termbin.com/92wr |
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| 16:26.41 | blz | These are teh logs _without_ the new disk plugged in. |
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| 16:27.21 | blz | I see 'interface fatal error' is this referring to the SCSI interface? |
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| 16:29.00 | Brigo | blz, i see error with ata7 and ata8. |
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| 16:29.26 | Brigo | that would be 3 disks. I think thatis poiting to the motherboard. |
| 16:29.27 | blz | Brigo: I'm fairly certain those are both on a eSATA PCI card. |
| 16:29.33 | Brigo | or configuration. |
| 16:29.51 | blz | Brigo: 3 disks? I count two. ata7 and ata8. |
| 16:30.14 | Brigo | and the new disk. |
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| 16:30.28 | blz | Brigo: ah ok. The new disk is ata7 (p<.001) |
| 16:31.02 | blz | So i'm fairly confident that's 2 disks, and fairly confident it's an issue with the PCI SCSI controller. |
| 16:31.12 | blz | scsi/sata ... I can never remember the difference. |
| 16:31.42 | Brigo | blz, i think scsi is no more, is just the system emulating it for some reason. |
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| 16:34.48 | blz | sudo halt |
| 16:34.53 | blz | whoops |
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| 16:35.21 | joop_ | lol |
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| 16:47.31 | aphorise | Wireless-AC 9560 - is not working for me on latest 9.6 with 4.9.130 kernel - download files from intel which are .ucode files not sure what I'm suppose to do with them? |
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| 16:48.49 | Brigo | aphorise, was it working before? |
| 16:49.04 | aphorise | Brigo - no - new install. |
| 16:49.56 | aphorise | Oh I see I think I am suppose to copy to /lib/firmware |
| 16:50.01 | Brigo | aphorise, are non-free repositories enabled? |
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| 16:50.40 | aphorise | Brigo no actually - how to enable? |
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| 16:51.05 | Brigo | you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:51.29 | aphorise | what am I adding? "non-free contrib"? |
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| 16:51.42 | Brigo | and add non-free and contrib to the end of the file like this: deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib |
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| 16:53.04 | aphorise | Brigo - ok then what? - I've added them |
| 16:53.10 | Brigo | apt update |
| 16:53.11 | aphorise | updated too. |
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| 16:54.29 | aphorise | What to do after? - is there something I need to install for Wireless-AC 9560 ? or just apt-get upgrade ? |
| 16:54.50 | Brigo | try apt upgrade and let see if the system is smart enought |
| 16:55.02 | aphorise | Brigo - Nope nothing new |
| 16:55.44 | Brigo | aphorise, the we have to figure out where the drivers are. Probably in firmware-misc-nonfree |
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| 16:56.14 | aphorise | I have the .ucode files I download from intel - shall I try copying them to /lib/firmware and restart? |
| 16:56.16 | Brigo | Wireless-AC 9560 is an intel card? |
| 16:56.45 | Brigo | aphorise, you can but they can cause troubles in the future, better get them from debian |
| 16:56.51 | Brigo | it is just installing a package |
| 16:57.02 | Brigo | what's the name of those files? |
| 16:57.03 | aphorise | Brigo for sure I'd prefer that |
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| 16:58.32 | Brigo | aphorise, check this package description: firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 16:59.03 | aphorise | Brigo https://paste.debian.net/hidden/47b7709d/ |
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| 17:00.29 | Brigo | aphorise, try installing that package. |
| 17:00.34 | aphorise | Brigo https://paste.debian.net/hidden/7106dfe4/ |
| 17:01.12 | aphorise | Brigo just copy to /lib/firmware and reboot or do I need to modprob or something after copying? |
| 17:01.17 | Brigo | i think your firware from intel is too new, maybe it won't work with stretch kernel. |
| 17:01.25 | Brigo | aphorise, you can try but ... |
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| 17:02.03 | Brigo | ,v firmware-iwlwifi |
| 17:02.05 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-4; stretch-backports/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1; sid/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1 |
| 17:02.06 | aphorise | Brigo FYI I already tried latest 4.19.0-rc7-amd64 asa well in unstable which helped with somethings like ethernet out of the box but not wifi. |
| 17:02.48 | Brigo | aphorise, sorry , i have to go. |
| 17:03.06 | aphorise | Brigo np - thx |
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| 17:03.32 | Brigo | aphorise, your driver version, 9000 will be in the buster package. |
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| 17:05.52 | shtrb | aphorise, dmesg| grep firmware to see what actually is needed |
| 17:06.29 | shtrb | bows in the face of aphorise laptop |
| 17:07.35 | shtrb | aphorise, try getting iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode |
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| 17:09.17 | aphorise | shtrb from where? intel? - one sec trying to get dmesg output |
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| 17:10.12 | shtrb | aphorise, from firmware-iwlwifi (buster or sid) |
| 17:10.20 | shtrb | download / unpack copy the file |
| 17:11.25 | aphorise | shtrb https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6b6236b0/ |
| 17:11.25 | shtrb | , iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode |
| 17:11.34 | shtrb | ,iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode |
| 17:11.44 | shtrb | judd you piece of crap , where is iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode |
| 17:11.59 | shtrb | ,file iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode |
| 17:12.04 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
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| 17:12.28 | aphorise | shtrb so add "buster" to /etc/part/sources.list ? |
| 17:12.36 | shtrb | no! |
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| 17:14.07 | aphorise | e1000e ehternet actually didnt work - I had to use drivers from intel as well... it was a challenge all in all getting here - had to use wifi dongle :-) |
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| 17:15.01 | shtrb | aphorise, you have a bucket load of errors there , but nothing about iwlwifi |
| 17:15.33 | dvs | shtrb, add stretch-backports to sources.list |
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| 17:15.48 | shtrb | aphorise, ^ |
| 17:16.27 | shtrb | aphorise, lspci -nnk |
| 17:17.09 | aphorise | ok added strech-backports and update but nothing new still |
| 17:17.23 | shtrb | You may need to upgrade your BIOS (because of your ACPI errors) , consolete your support if that is safe |
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| 17:18.02 | aphorise | shtrb https://paste.debian.net/hidden/d4488305/ |
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| 17:19.32 | dvs | aphorise, apt -t stretch-backports upgrade firmware-iwlwifi kernel-image-amd64 |
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| 17:19.56 | shtrb | reboot woould be needed |
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| 17:20.31 | shtrb | aphorise, nice P2000 out there |
| 17:20.55 | aphorise | Unable to loate package kernel-image-amd64 |
| 17:20.59 | aphorise | locate* |
| 17:21.08 | dvs | oops linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:21.27 | aphorise | ok a bunch of stuff |
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| 17:21.49 | aphorise | 4.16 stuff I am seeing |
| 17:22.17 | aphorise | Oh wait its mixed - I wonder what I will end up with lets see :-) - will reboot after its done |
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| 17:23.10 | aphorise | I tried updating ot 4.18 previously and a lot of things broke... then 4.19 that also didnt help |
| 17:23.40 | shtrb | !bat |
| 17:23.40 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:23.42 | aphorise | What is the difference between apt & apt-get? |
| 17:24.35 | dvs | one of them has more consistent prompts (apt-get?) |
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| 17:26.31 | aloo_shu | they used to be different, but since ?, apt is delegating commands to apt-get , apt-cache etc. acting as a one stop shop, afaik |
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| 17:32.20 | aphorise | wow boot into gnome has become mega slow |
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| 17:33.48 | shtrb | network services may be lagging |
| 17:33.51 | aphorise | I had this issue before actually - I get to gdm login page but it doesnt login now on 4.18 |
| 17:34.10 | shtrb | you didn't do a full reboot |
| 17:34.24 | shtrb | *you wasn't disconnected |
| 17:34.47 | aphorise | shtrb I did a full reboot |
| 17:35.05 | shtrb | on the same machine this IRC is working ? |
| 17:35.28 | shtrb | check your .xsession-errors to see what caused failure to login (also in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:36.07 | aphorise | shtrb https://paste.debian.net/1052235/ |
| 17:36.11 | shtrb | grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and grep EE ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 17:38.00 | shtrb | how can you have both nouveau and nvidia module loaded at the same time ? |
| 17:38.31 | aphorise | shtrb https://paste.debian.net/1052236/ |
| 17:39.05 | shtrb | aphorise, I don't understand your setup you have both nvidia and the opensource module at the same time |
| 17:39.12 | aphorise | shtrb I dont think so I saw some doc suggesting so... I used nvidia's on .sh install though - how can I disable it? |
| 17:39.41 | aphorise | just uninstall nouveau? |
| 17:39.52 | shtrb | you can blacklist nueovo for instance |
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| 17:41.35 | untitled | Hi. Anyone updated tomcat recently to version 8.5.35 and got any problems with ssl? |
| 17:42.03 | aphorise | shtrb printf 'blacklist nouveau\n' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ? |
| 17:43.04 | shtrb | NO ! >> |
| 17:43.18 | aphorise | shtrb file doesnt exit though :) |
| 17:43.38 | aphorise | ok done update-initramfs -u - rebooting |
| 17:44.01 | shtrb | just remember to remove it in case of an error |
| 17:44.14 | shtrb | you could also just use nvidia-driver to install the debian way |
| 17:44.16 | aphorise | remove what? |
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| 17:45.25 | aphorise | Its continusly flickering now between terminal mode and graphics mode. |
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| 17:45.48 | aphorise | I had this issue as well before where it eventually stops or I am able to get to ctrl+alt+f2 |
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| 17:46.41 | shtrb | ctrl+alt+f1 remove your line from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf , reboot ,uninstall your nvidia solution , use the debian installation way |
| 17:47.53 | shtrb | but that will not solve your wifi issue (*) |
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| 17:47.59 | aphorise | How to uninstall just run the same .sh again? |
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| 17:49.52 | stripe | hi all, trying to do a net install, but on reboot it just freezes so I cannot drop to tty and install the amd firmware, any ideas? cheers |
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| 17:53.28 | nkuttler | stripe: define freeze. which amd firmware? |
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| 17:56.39 | aphorise | shtrb actually wifi seems to be fixed so I just need to focus on restoring nvidia now. |
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| 17:56.55 | stripe | nkuttler: posts error about missing firmware and just sits there, cant even alt+del+f2 to get a tty (its an amd rx580 graphics card which needs the firmware-amd-graphics.deb package) |
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| 17:57.17 | shtrb | :D |
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| 17:58.47 | stripe | nkuttler: even tried a minimal install (no xserver or gui) and it still freezes |
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| 18:00.16 | aphorise | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8e34b93d/ - what does this imply? |
| 18:00.34 | aphorise | Oh wait I get it :-p |
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| 18:06.06 | aphorise | shtrb I think I install debian way as per: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers - but still same issue with flicker - do I need to still blacklist nouveau again? |
| 18:07.29 | shtrb | what does a recent (stretch-backports) nvidia-detect say to you ? |
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| 18:08.22 | aphorise | shtrb same as before with Oh oh. Your card is not supporter by any driver version up to 384.130.. |
| 18:08.54 | aphorise | lsmod |
| 18:09.03 | shtrb | backports should give you data about 390.48 |
| 18:09.10 | aphorise | ops lsmod | grep nou doesnto show module any more either. |
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| 18:13.24 | jhutchins | aphorise: nvidia-detect (from the package of the same name) will tell you what driver you're using. |
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| 18:25.58 | jhutchins | I see that was already suggested. |
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| 18:39.10 | jhutchins | Fixed the GLX problem after upgrade from jessie to stretch. The Debian-provided nvidia-driver has caught up with my card. |
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| 18:39.32 | jhutchins | bash NVIDIA...run -uninstall && apt install nvidia-driver |
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| 18:40.47 | jhutchins | It was running the nouveau driver. I thought nvidia-detect told me that, but now it's not saying which driver is in use. |
| 18:40.57 | jhutchins | Anyway, glx works again. |
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| 19:07.41 | InvisibleRasta | hey guys i cant get my wifi working... on dmesg it says it couldnt start intel iwlwifi module |
| 19:07.55 | InvisibleRasta | i did the isntall with bootstrap |
| 19:08.01 | InvisibleRasta | if that can make a difference |
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| 19:13.23 | watchcat | is the unadjustable mouse acceleration/sensitivity bug slated for a fix in buster? |
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| 19:19.38 | RoyK | watchcat: which bug id? |
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| 19:20.55 | watchcat | i don't know if it's been reported as an official bug. but stretch has had it all along. |
| 19:21.16 | watchcat | at least with mate anyway. |
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| 19:23.11 | RoyK | then report the bug |
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| 19:23.34 | RoyK | possibly it's something wrong at your place - or it would have been reported ages ago |
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| 19:26.26 | noln | or it's intermittent, dependent on local factors (hardware? driver? other unrelated packages?), heisenbug, or already reported upstream, or maybe just nobody reported it |
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| 19:27.13 | watchcat | ok. you can work around it by uninstalling libinput and reinstalling the older evdev. so possibly due to transition to wayland. |
| 19:27.48 | watchcat | not that terrible so probably just unreported. |
| 19:28.30 | noln | ^ and that's the kind of info that usually turns out to be helpful for the developers and for fellow users googling for the same problem |
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| 19:29.20 | Aebian | whats the best way to get glibc_2.27 or higher? compile from source or is there a package already available? |
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| 19:32.26 | noln | Aebian, why would you need it? |
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| 19:36.04 | Aebian | a program requires it. But I guess I'll stick to the deb file from ftp.ca.debian.org/debian as sudo apt-get install libc6-dev=2.27 does not find the version |
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| 19:39.35 | noln | too many packages depend on it to be safe to install on the running system. Chroot into debian buster installed in a virtual machine (netinst) or debootstrap |
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| 20:04.33 | Aebian | I see... I did a mess https://i.imgur.com/ogip6eM.png the locale package has been removed and when running apt to fix the broken install I get a dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable |
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| 20:08.49 | at0m | Aebian: how did you become root? try "su -" before you apt -f install |
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| 20:09.11 | Aebian | well either via sudo ir via sudo -i |
| 20:10.23 | Aebian | even directly as root I get the errors and also added the path variables to see if that makes any difference |
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| 20:10.51 | at0m | long as you don't just "su" to become root |
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| 20:12.33 | Aebian | I used sudo -i which translates into su - |
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| 20:14.10 | noln | the errors are not the problem, downgrade the package if still possible |
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| 20:21.53 | Aebian | tried this: https://i.imgur.com/vijKXlS.png |
| 20:22.14 | Letto | At irc.debian.org I get [Channel] Cannot join channel (Need to be identified and verified to join this channel, '/msg NickServ help' to learn how to register and verify.) , after I just registered and identified... Any ideas ? |
| 20:24.28 | at0m | Letto: so you've identified, now login at https://services.oftc.net/ and verify |
| 20:24.56 | at0m | that's irc.debian.org, right? |
| 20:25.13 | Letto | Yes |
| 20:25.19 | Letto | Thanks :) |
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| 20:29.59 | Ede|Popede | uh, the webz as gatekeeper to irc? |
| 20:31.18 | p3rror | Hello |
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| 20:39.13 | at0m | Ede|Popede: i guess it was either that, or email ;p |
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| 20:53.32 | Ede|Popede | oh, a good alternative to emails |
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| 20:59.30 | at0m | Ede|Popede: right, as in "works via any proxy" plus "no email required" |
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| 21:01.09 | Ede|Popede | at0m: nice if you have your mails on one of the msn/live resellers (where nobody has a definitive list of). tend to block especially smaller, unknown networks. |
| 21:03.02 | at0m | Ede|Popede: or if you're looking for tor support. which is also hosted on that network. |
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| 21:28.33 | hydrajump | after using `debootstrap --arch amd64 --variant=minbase stretch http://deb.debian.org/debian` to install debian to /target I'm not sure what devices need to be mounted before chrooting into the installation at /target |
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| 21:30.17 | JPT | For a basic chroot, you'll need /dev, /sys and /proc |
| 21:30.26 | JPT | mount -o bind /dev /mnt/target/dev and so on |
| 21:30.27 | hydrajump | in the man page for debootstrap there's an example that only mounts `sysfs` and `proc` but other places mount `dev` as well. |
| 21:30.44 | noln | dev/pts |
| 21:30.57 | noln | I usually mount --bind --make-rprivate, dunno whether that's required |
| 21:31.32 | JPT | dev is important if you mess with the bootloader. Also, run mount -a after chroot in case your fstab contains more essential partitions |
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| 21:59.15 | Ooze | Hey guys. Rebuilding and trying to update my fstab w/ my prior config. My network share isn't mounting the way I expect it to. Previously I had been using DNS, but now I'm using the IP until my domain controllers are built out |
| 21:59.19 | Ooze | 192.168.1.106:/volume1/NAS /media/NAS nfs noauto,x-systemd.automount,x-systemd.device-timeout=10,timeo=14,x-systemd.idle-timeout=1min,sync 0 0 |
| 22:00.22 | Ooze | I've created the /media/NAS dir and set proper permissions, but after rebooting w/ this config the owner is changed to root and it says the device doesn't exist |
| 22:00.24 | Ooze | Any ideas? |
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| 22:02.19 | petn-randall | Ooze: Which OS is this? |
| 22:02.46 | Ooze | Debian 9 |
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| 22:03.42 | tsarompy | hi #debian <3 |
| 22:03.50 | tsarompy | i dont need gvfs running under kde do i? |
| 22:03.55 | tsarompy | i mean, im under the impression kde uses kio |
| 22:04.02 | tsarompy | but im not totally sure |
| 22:05.54 | petn-randall | Probably not, but strictly speaking you don't really need kio under KDE, either. |
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| 22:06.19 | hydrajump | JPT: is this the right way: |
| 22:06.24 | hydrajump | mount -t proc /proc /target/proc |
| 22:06.27 | hydrajump | mount -t sysfs /sys /target/sys |
| 22:06.29 | hydrajump | mount -o bind /dev /target/devy |
| 22:06.57 | rudi_s | You can use bind for every mount. |
| 22:07.12 | tsarompy | ok thanks |
| 22:07.15 | tsarompy | <333 |
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| 22:09.18 | Ooze | Sorry, having client issues |
| 22:09.42 | Ooze | Anything noticeably with that fstab line? |
| 22:10.00 | petn-randall | Ooze: So when rebooting, it just fails to mount? |
| 22:10.32 | Ooze | Seems that way, but the mountpoint changes to root ownership |
| 22:10.37 | Ooze | Startup isn't interupted |
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| 22:12.56 | petn-randall | Ooze: You can verify that with looking at the output of 'mount'. |
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| 22:13.34 | Ooze | systemd-1 on /media/NFS type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=25,pgrp=1,timeout=60,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=9188) |
| 22:13.47 | Ooze | systemd-1 on /media/NAS* type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=25,pgrp=1,timeout=60,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=9188) |
| 22:13.57 | Ooze | I changed the original share name :) |
| 22:14.16 | hydrajump | rudi_s: is there any difference between bind mounting each of those vs what I was doing? |
| 22:14.30 | Ooze | I don't think I have my credentials declared anywhere |
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| 22:16.41 | rudi_s | hydrajump: AFAIK no. They are both virtual file systems of the kernel, so the bind mount should equal the individual mount. |
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| 22:17.13 | Ooze | So it looks like it is mounting then, petn-randall ? |
| 22:17.14 | ghormoon | hi, can I somehow make udev rule that would have multiple mac addresses for the same eth0 or I need to hack it around other way? (need rescue flashdisk that doesn't care which servet it's on and has to properly map bonds) |
| 22:17.16 | rudi_s | I just like the bind because it's less typing. |
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| 22:18.03 | hydrajump | rudi_s: cool thank you for explaining. So I'll change to doing `for i in dev,proc,sys; do mount -o bind /$i /target/$i;done` |
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| 22:43.10 | jhutchins | xfce has developed some strange habits since I upgraded to stretch, particularly noticible in chrome. |
| 22:43.31 | rudi_s | np |
| 22:43.55 | jhutchins | Shift-up arrow won't work to mark text, it doesn't move the cursor. Alt-F4 doesn't close windows. |
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| 22:44.07 | jhutchins | Alt-left won't go back. |
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| 22:48.34 | rant | works for me |
| 22:48.49 | rant | I'm using xfce in stretch and all of those worked for me |
| 22:49.30 | rant | and I'm precisely as think as you drunk I am. and it still worked |
| 22:51.31 | rant | works in both chromium and google chrome on XFCE in Stetch |
| 22:51.39 | Ede|Popede | jhutchins: did you try to reassign those shortcuts? to see what the settings dialog does when you press them |
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| 22:52.46 | ghormoon | I've debootstrapped debian o a usb disk and grub doesn't configure it ,what am I missing? I'm runnig update-grub2 in chroot with /dev/, /dev/pts, /sys, /proc mounted with --bind, added the uuid to /etc/fstab as /, but still it doesn't seem to notice it and configure in grub.cfg |
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| 22:55.40 | ghormoon | nevermind, kernel missing, debiitstrap doesn't install it |
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| 23:14.37 | jhutchins | Ede|Popede: No, haven't reassigned anything. |
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| 23:14.52 | jhutchins | Ede|Popede: Just upgraded from jessie to stretch. |
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| 23:17.10 | p0rt | yo so i need some help with ibus on linux |
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| 23:17.47 | p0rt | i've installed it and added those variables to my ~/.profile but it doesn't work at all |
| 23:18.07 | p0rt | i.e it looks like it's not recognised as an input method |
| 23:18.22 | p0rt | can't input japanese nor russian despite them being enabled in ibus settings |
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| 23:18.39 | p0rt | i'm using debian testing with awesomewm |
| 23:19.44 | p0rt | and the icon is there, the daemon is enabled because i can even choose an input method and it's currently set to type hiragana but as you can see i'm not typing hiragana. |
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| 23:22.35 | Ede|Popede | jhutchins: no, i mean for testing purposes. if the presses get through to xfce at all. |
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| 23:24.53 | Ede|Popede | p0rt: with "enabled" and "set" do yo mean it actually shows you that hiranaga should be the choice now? because selecting it in the dialog and then closing it isn't enough as i had to find out |
| 23:25.25 | p0rt | Ede|Popede: yeah i can see an 'a' in hiragana in my tray rn |
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| 23:27.01 | Ede|Popede | added russian here, also no effect. hm. |
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| 23:32.38 | Ede|Popede | Ðа! |
| 23:33.07 | Ede|Popede | p0rt: in the settings of the panel thingy, last tab: use system settings |
| 23:33.32 | p0rt | uhm |
| 23:33.34 | p0rt | which panel? |
| 23:33.55 | Ede|Popede | ibus icon > preferences > tab Advanced |
| 23:34.02 | p0rt | yeah |
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| 23:34.41 | p0rt | there's: use system keyboard layout and share the same input method among all applications |
| 23:34.46 | Ede|Popede | 1st |
| 23:34.57 | Ede|Popede | should be off |
| 23:35.13 | Ede|Popede | seems it takes some settings from /etc/whatever |
| 23:35.33 | p0rt | it is off :< |
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| 23:36.23 | Ede|Popede | oh. i restarted the whole ibus thing (context menu). well, i tried. had to reimplement it (and at this occasion had to restart the whole panel :>) |
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| 23:38.36 | p0rt | oh actually russian works |
| 23:39.17 | p0rt | switching with alt+space doesn't but if i click on the ibus icon and then select russian with my mouse it does work |
| 23:39.27 | p0rt | anthy still doesn't work though |
| 23:39.35 | Ede|Popede | super is the *cough* key. between ctrl and alt |
| 23:40.16 | p0rt | yeah it is! |
| 23:40.46 | Ede|Popede | M-space would be suboptimal. defaults on program menu |
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| 23:42.37 | p0rt | Ede|Popede: what does it have to do with anthy or ibus tho? |
| 23:42.57 | p0rt | OH WAIT i had +R |
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| 23:44.56 | stevenroose | Hi, quick question. Upon installation, I accidentally left the "debian desktop environment" checkbox checked. Which packages are that? I'd like to uninstall them. |
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| 23:47.13 | LtL | stevenroose: type 'dpkg -l task*' it should tell you. |
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| 23:47.52 | stevenroose | LtL: thanks! |
| 23:48.02 | LtL | stevenroose: welcome |
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| 23:49.13 | Ede|Popede | is the assumption of the top answer here correct? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/445829/debian-desktop-environment-in-installer |
| 23:49.15 | Ede|Popede | > |
| 23:49.15 | Ede|Popede | If no specific desktop environment is selected, but the âDebian desktop environmentâ is, the default which ends up installed is determined by tasksel: on i386 and amd64, itâs GNOME, on other architectures, itâs XFCE. |
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| 23:50.21 | liamliamliam | hey all |
| 23:50.42 | p0rt | Ede|Popede: ayy everything works out of the blue |
| 23:50.54 | Ede|Popede | great |
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| 23:51.23 | Ede|Popede | hiranaga works? |
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| 23:51.37 | p0rt | ã¯ãï¼ |
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| 23:51.53 | Ede|Popede | btw, i have no clue why all this is installed on *my* machine. seems i made the install from the live disc :> |
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