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00:42.06ghormoonis there anything packaged for rstp in debian? (ecept setting it all in openvswitch which I didn't manage :))
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02:30.55fuxxyFinally finished my guide for joining Debian to a Windows Domain
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02:41.16danielboston26does anyone here use alpine?
02:42.20dvs!ask
02:42.20dpkgIf you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
02:43.44danielboston26well the only people who would know the answer use alpine but here goes my inbox is blank
02:43.55annadane,i alpine
02:43.55danielboston26the setup and folder config looks good
02:43.57juddPackage alpine (mail, optional) in stretch/amd64: Text-based email client, friendly for novices but powerful. Version: 2.20+dfsg1-7; Size: 1882.0k; Installed: 8246k; Homepage: http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/alpine
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02:44.06danielboston26i am getting email
02:44.18danielboston26its just i have a blank inbox
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02:56.32danielboston26hmmm so i guess no one knows?
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02:58.09dvsI guess no one in here right now knows alpine
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03:00.44danielboston26dvs, do you know if there is an alpine channel? ##alpine seems to be dead
03:01.00dvsI don't know
03:02.59danielboston26it has to be some config issue i am able to see mail in other folders just not the inbox
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03:03.11danielboston26i wonder if fastmail could help?
03:03.19danielboston26they are pretty nerdy
03:03.26danielboston26someone there might be using alpine
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03:43.26annadaneis the sort of standard thing people do for openbox, to just copy /etc/xdg/openbox to .config? i guess that gives you the best default options to start with (at least if you want to edit stuff per-user)
03:43.49annadaneautostart, environment, menu.xml, rc.xml
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03:47.58annadanewell never mind i guess i answered my own question
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04:01.40ghormoonhi, does anyone see anything broken with this? https://paste.debian.net/1052273/ ifup on the vlan doesn't say any error, but it doesn't appear in "ip a", though ifup vlan1001 again says already configured. ifup vmbr1001 says "interface vlan1001 does not exist!"
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04:11.03danielboston26how do i add a user?
04:11.14danielboston26useradd doesn't work
04:11.40dvsadduser?
04:11.41annadanetry adduser
04:11.51dvsliar!
04:13.03danielboston26that isn't working either says command not found
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04:14.33dvs,v adduser
04:14.34juddPackage: adduser on amd64 -- jessie: 3.113+nmu3; wheezy: 3.113+nmu3; stretch: 3.115; buster: 3.118; sid: 3.118
04:14.57danielboston26does adduser have to be in my path?
04:15.11dvsif you're root
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04:16.02annadanesilly dvs, adduser wouldn't not be in Stable
04:16.16dvsslaps self
04:16.17annadaneor really any branch
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04:16.34danielboston26im not root regular user
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04:16.40danielboston26im in debian 9
04:16.56annadaneyou probably have to be root
04:17.14annadanewell actually you definitely have to
04:17.21annadanealso slaps self
04:17.27danielboston26that worked
04:17.33annadane!next
04:17.33dpkgAnother happy customer leaves the building.
04:17.46danielboston26thats weird it should say you need to be root not no such command
04:17.55annadaneanyway, in general, use adduser. it's preferable to useradd
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04:22.26ghormoonhm, bond0.1001 name works, but vlan1001 doesn't strange that on my other debian box it does work
04:22.38ryoumaannadane: if only it were named non-confusingly
04:23.02ryoumamnemonically
04:23.15annadanei guess but you wouldn't change it now, it'd just confuse people
04:23.33annadanethis is why you try to remember UNIX gives you just enough rope to hang yourself, and to read the man pages
04:23.33ryoumayeah
04:23.45ghormoonwhat's the advantage? I've been always using useradd -m
04:23.56ryoumawell it's just that why name a new command teh same as the old one but transpose it
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04:24.08annadanedon't know TBPH. i just know adduser is an easier-to-use frontend
04:25.00annadane"if you don't know better" it's better to stick to frontends
04:25.04ghormoonfor me adduser always did some magic/questions etc i didn't want :D
04:25.07annadanelearn the other stuff later
04:25.11annadanewell, fair enough
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04:25.40ghormoonbut it's true that i often forget to set shell when using useradd and then fixing it later
04:26.09annadaneif greycat were here he'd bitch at us about it
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04:41.03ghormoonany ideas why the bond0.nnnn interfaces are  rename13@bond0: ? it happened to me with the first, but fixed after reboot, I've added more and it doesn't fix after reboot for them :(
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05:01.01ghormoonany idea why if vlans setup like this: https://paste.debian.net/1052275/ only the rist one works and the rest have renameXX names (and therefore are not added to bridges etc.) ip a: https://paste.debian.net/1052276/
05:03.16kalok322Hello, If I start LFS using debian, will my linux distro be "debian based"?
05:03.59RichardKentWurthno
05:04.54kalok322will it just be a linux distro? righit?
05:04.57kalok322right*
05:05.16RichardKentWurthyes
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05:06.17kalok322Thanks. ;-)
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05:11.29ghormoonwhat all distro needs to do to be actually considered debian based? use apt? use debian package sources and just modify them? have the same kernel?
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05:16.23RichardKentWurth"A Debian derivative is a distribution that is based on the work done in Debian but has its own identity, goals and audience and is created by an entity that is independent from Debian. Derivatives modify Debian to achieve the goals they set for themselves."
05:16.30RichardKentWurthwww.debian.org/derivatives/
05:17.08RichardKentWurthSo according to that, you start with Debian, then change it.
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05:27.56ghormoonI've just noticed with the vlans that I've got logs like:  kernel: rename13: renamed from bond0.2001, wth?
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05:41.05ozzloywhat's an easy way to see a bunch of actual debian package source code, specifically preinst and postinst
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05:44.57ghormooni think I'm triggering some bug in ifup code, if i do vconfig rem rename13, bond0.2001 appears riht away there
05:45.05ozzloynm, found https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47880/how-debian-package-should-create-user-accounts
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06:12.33shtrbHow can I tag a bug report for an earlier version ?
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07:54.14discoveredwhere is the debian-kde channel?
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07:56.51themilldiscovered: there's a #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net (most #debian* channels are on oftc)
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08:07.22shtrbHow can I tag a bug report for an earlier version ?
08:07.57shtrbhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=914011 this is also for stable
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08:16.17themillshtrb: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#found
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08:19.22shtrbthemill, should found: 914011 5.8.6 be enough ?
08:19.28shtrb,v plasma-workspace
08:19.29juddPackage: plasma-workspace on amd64 -- stretch: 4:5.8.6-2.1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 4:5.8.6-2.1+deb9u1; buster: 4:5.13.5-1+b1; sid: 4:5.13.5-1+b1
08:19.42shtrbor I need the full value ?
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08:22.28themillalways use version strings that actually exist
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08:22.38themilland no colon
08:22.54themill(no colon after found)
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08:32.16discoveredI am trying to run conky on startup. But after restarting debian the previous is not cleared. It just increment a new process. Here is how i did it https://pastebin.com/T9jNiFS0
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08:35.01discoveredI created a script with command of "conky -q -c "/home/discovered/.conky/custom.conky" &" and added a .desktop file in autostart folder. Now i see 3 process of conky is running. I don't know why it is incrementing by itself. What am i doing wrong?
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08:43.47ghormoonhi, any idea how to print two images on one paper (two sided) without any conversion that would touch their sizes? I've tried convert with -border 0x0 and -extent same size as the image but still there's some slight difference, it slighly resizes them for some reason. the input images have exact size for A4 from gimp, so I want them to have no additional borders etc, I even print them without any border
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08:52.01themillghormoon: I'd probably pop the images into a PDF or PS file first, perhaps with convert.
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08:57.30ghormoonthemill: that's the issue where  Ididn't manage to not to get them sligtly resized and therefore off if printed both sides
08:58.07themillbut at which stage has that happened?
09:00.22ghormoonconvert to pdf I think, but tbh I'm not 100% sure
09:00.52themillyou can look at the PDF to know
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09:02.07ghormoonnot really, I can see it on the paper looking in bright light, can't see few pixels scaledown by eye on the pdf
09:02.15ghormoonmaybe if I can somehow overlay them and make white transparent
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09:04.02themillconvert foo.png foo.pdf; convert foo.pdf foo2.png gives exactly the same sized images
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09:05.37themill(or at least it did on this random pdf I just tried)
09:05.40ghormoonimput.png: PNG image data, 3150 x 4455, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced ---- tmp.png:          PNG image data, 595 x 842, 4-bit colormap, non-interlaced
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09:09.25untitledSomething weird is going on with java in debian 9. I updated tomcat and it stopped working. Then I tried tomcat from the web page, it didn't work either, then I installed java from the web site and it worked with packaged tomcat
09:09.41untitledhttps://pastebin.com/XR6HWNMs
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10:16.32n4dirups. Anyway: either type what i accidently posted here, or join #debian-next on the oftc irc network, not this network
10:17.14discoveredI was wondering if debian 10 stable will be released soon!
10:17.31SpeedyGearly next year is what I heard
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10:22.21discoveredThere is no torrent for debian iso ... right? http download seems too slow
10:23.24discoveredoh got it https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-cd/
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10:26.30Foxdiscovered: there are torrents for debian iso, for stable at least
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10:26.49Foxi've been too slow :)
10:26.59discoveredYes, i found that :)
10:27.03bazhangmost would use the net install, so that's moot
10:27.29discoveredi also use netinstall
10:27.44bazhangdistrowatch has most every iso torrent out there
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10:29.54discoveredhuh? :)
10:30.01discoveredKDE declining?
10:30.03bazhangyep
10:30.11bazhangdeprecated
10:30.28bazhangmeans as in will no longer offer it
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10:32.09discoveredbetter to use gnome from now :) KDE has some hidden bugs perhaps heh
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10:34.40discoveredwhat app you prefer to use USB disk image?
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10:35.36tarzeaudd
10:36.06bazhangthe debian iso could even be 'cat'ed
10:36.31discoveredbazhang, yes
10:36.52discoveredi am going to reinstall debian
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12:56.51pragomeris there a ready-to-use, 32bit debian distro with a nice openbox desktop? (searching something like manjaro openbox, but debian based)
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12:59.03themillpragomer: 1) install debian, 2) install openbox, 3) profit?
13:00.49pragomeryes, this would be the most clean way I know.. just searched for a ready distro to get some ideas and examples for the config files..
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13:21.27petn-randallpragomer: If you use a different distro, you won't get support in this channel, though.
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13:37.17n4dirpragomer: there is bunsenlabs or such. I guess just use a live CD, copy and store the configs, themes, etc, and call it a day.
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13:38.31n4dirbut then: if you like the manjaro setup, use that. Might be antix has openbox too, i don't think so, but they always have been in window-managers
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13:54.35danielboston26What took over for redo backup it seems so simply and clonezilla is not is there a simple imager for linux?
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13:57.26danielboston26Apt install weechat 2.2.1
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13:58.05bitesskunkz: please read the instructions: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/    "Install a package from backports"
13:58.45danielboston26bites wouldn’t telling apt which version to install work?
13:59.14danielboston26Since apt is already seeing it I don’t think he needs backports
13:59.38bitesit might cause problems with dependencies because packages in backports might depends on other packages in backports.
14:00.21danielboston26skunkz: do you have backports added to your sources file?
14:00.27themillobviously
14:00.50themill(also, that is also not how you specify a version in any case)
14:00.51skunkzI don't think so, I used the default google cloud platform image but didn't configure any source file
14:01.08danielboston26Hmm maybe google adds it?
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14:01.14themillif you're seeing a version string like "2.2-1~bpo9+1" you do
14:01.25skunkzI tried  apt-get install weechat=2.2-1~bpo9+1 but I have unmet dependencies
14:01.35themillplease read the instructions ;(
14:01.39danielboston26Ah I missed that
14:01.52danielboston26Yes you have backports skunkz
14:01.52skunkzYeah got it, bpo = back ports o....
14:02.22danielboston26It’s non trivial to install from backports I gave up
14:02.40danielboston26If you want later versions of software switch go testing
14:03.00themilldanielboston26: please stop
14:03.04danielboston26To testing*
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14:03.31skunkzI don't **need** the new version, it's just that weechat 1.6 and onwards had vulnerabilities that are now fixed according to their website
14:04.06Mathisenwhy not grab the source ? https://weechat.org/files/src/weechat-2.3.tar.gz
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14:04.28danielboston26wait it will be added to stable
14:04.58danielboston26Since I’m not allowed to mention the other method apparently
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14:05.24themilldanielboston26: I just want you to stop giving bad advice.
14:05.28skunkzI could grab the source but I prefer using the repo so I get updates without keeping track of all the software I manualy install
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14:06.06danielboston26themill: I misread his original question
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14:06.37skunkzmy sources.list doesn't appear to have backports though, I only have stretch main stretch-updates main and stretch/updates main
14:06.53themilldanielboston26: and then gave commands that wouldn't work and then started offering advice to do upgrade to testing that wouldn't help...
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14:07.15themillskunkz: presumably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d; have you just tried installing the package as per the instructions?
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14:08.58skunkzright it was in sources.list.d and the instrctions you provided worked thnks
14:09.21themill:
14:09.23themill:)
14:10.13skunkzhow can I tell which repo packages come from ? It's not obvious that
14:10.30skunkz2.2.1 was in backports when I ued apt-cache show
14:11.27themillapt-cache policy $package
14:11.49themill(that tells you where it *would* come from, not necessarily where it did come from)
14:12.39skunkznot sure I understand the last sentence but it's perfect thanks
14:13.29themillit tells you where the package would come from if you installed it right now which is not the same as answering the question of where it came from some time in the past
14:14.15skunkzhmmm okay
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14:54.25Ede|Popedei had 2 strange entries in htop, (metadata) from gvfsd and (sd-pam) from systemd. systemd seems to have had an update since last reboot (ctime). and root, exe, cwd are all broken links. gvfsd's ctime is clearly older, so this can't be the reason for the naming. what is it then?
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15:50.40annadanereally trivial question: in pcmanfm is there a way to move or remove the "create new tab for this folder" button? i don't want it to be left of the "back" button
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15:51.43JerryXiaoannadane: you can always change the code and recompile it.
15:53.57annadanemaybe i can edit some of the things in /usr/share/pcmanfm
15:55.55pagioshi is there a risk of doing a service mdadm restart when i have running software raid in healthy mode? Idea is i added an email address to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and would like to receive notification when something bad happens
15:57.08AlexPortableln: failed to create symbolic link '/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/: No such file or directory
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15:57.17AlexPortablei used the command apt-get install -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" apache2
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15:58.00greycatSounds like you tried to create a symlink with an empty name somehow.
15:58.10AlexPortableI rm'ed the config folder
15:58.13greycatit should have said '/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/somesite.conf' or similar
15:58.18greycat... you what.
15:58.24greycatwell, put it back.
15:58.31AlexPortableit was there after i removed the package
15:58.33AlexPortableso i got rid of it
15:59.03AlexPortablehow do i restore it to default config?
15:59.35greycatdrwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Nov 12 09:17 /etc/apache2/
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15:59.44greycatdrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 12 09:17 /etc/apache2/sites-available
15:59.44greycatdrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul 20  2015 /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
15:59.56pagios?
15:59.59AlexPortablei just want to get rid of all config and make it again
16:00.06jellyAlexPortable: reinstall the package providing that folder
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16:00.59jellypagios: which debian release?
16:01.13pagios9.
16:01.17pagiosstretch
16:03.05maxdawiddo you have system installed on this array ?
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16:03.45jellypagios: is mdadm service running at all on your installation?
16:03.57pagiosyea
16:04.08pagios00:00:00 /sbin/mdadm --monitor --scan
16:04.24jellythat's just the process.  What about the service.
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16:04.27jellysystemctl list-unit-files|grep mdadm # it's not, say, masked?
16:05.39jellypagios: you're probably looking for the mdmonitor service.
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16:09.31pagiosjelly, btw i am using nullmailer, i want all emaisl sent to root to be redirect to info@tin.com i added root: info@tin.com to /etc/aliases newaliases and it doesnt work yet
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16:10.30AlexPortablejelly: will just keep the old config files
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16:10.37jellyI don't remember whether nullmailer uses /etc/aliases at all
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16:11.35JerryXiaoannadane: edit files t
16:12.10JerryXiaomanaged by packet manager is not a good idea
16:12.32JerryXiaopackage (
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16:14.03annadaneJerryXiao, how is it suggested i go about it then?
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16:15.00JerryXiaoif that's not so annoying, live with it
16:15.26annadanewell i mean, you said change the code
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16:16.11JerryXiaothen you need to get familiar with the code of pcmanfm
16:16.28JerryXiaoat least you should know what to change
16:16.56annadanei guess. i've never been ever fully satisfied with file managers, maybe i should learn to make my own :P
16:17.00JerryXiaoand then maybe you can create a pr or patch
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16:18.43JerryXiaoannadane: Dolphin by KDE maybe a better choice
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16:21.18JordiGHAnyone got any good games on main to recommend?
16:21.34JordiGHabrotman: You used to be the one to recommend them.
16:22.14annadaneJordiGH, i always liked ardentryst
16:22.19annadaneragequitted when it got too hard :P
16:22.24JordiGHOoh, I like hard game.s
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16:23.04JordiGHHow exciting, I know nothing of this game and I'm about to experience it for the first time.
16:24.05JordiGHOoh, nice intro screen.
16:24.05JordiGHBut I'm at work. I'll check it for real later.
16:24.48annadanei don't need _more_ games to get addicted to
16:24.54annadaneso i'll leave that alone for now
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16:26.01pagiosemails to localhost on my server are usuallt sent to root or to root@localhost ?
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16:36.18abrotmanJordiGH: I have a PS4 now .. :)
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16:39.40JordiGHPfft, doesn't have free games.
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16:50.34DammitJimhow do I find out what a user is running on bash that is using high CPU?
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16:50.45greycattop
16:50.48DammitJimwhen I use top, it just tells me the user and the command being bash
16:50.53DammitJimany way I can get more specifics?
16:50.58greycatwalk over to their terminal and ask them
16:51.41DammitJimLOL...I tried, but they claim they aren't running anything
16:52.02DammitJimand when I ran ps on their terminal, nothing showed up
16:52.05SwedeMikeDammitJim: then just kill it.
16:52.38DammitJimI'm ready to do that SwedeMike ... but I wanted to learn if there was a different way of finding out so I can point it out in their noses
16:53.01SwedeMikeDammitJim: you can use "strace -p <pid>" to see if the process seems to be doing anything
16:53.19bindiI think htop is more detailed than top in the process information
16:53.36DammitJimoh, it keeps printing: read(0, "", 1) = 0
16:53.37DammitJimlol
16:54.29greycatDoes this bash process even *have* a controlling terminal at all?
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16:55.01DammitJimI don't know (trying to learn)
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16:55.41greycatUID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
16:55.41greycatwooledg    853   849  0 Nov12 pts/15   00:00:00 bash-5.0
16:55.51greycatSee the TTY column?
16:56.04DammitJimpts/15?
16:56.11greycatDoes your runaway bash have a TTY?
16:56.35DammitJimhow did you get that? what command? ps ?
16:56.42greycatI specifically ran "ps -fp $$"
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16:57.52DammitJimhhmmmm... I don't see the bash process when I run that
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16:58.08greycat$$ means the PID of the current shell
16:58.17greycatI asked for ONE process to SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE
16:58.20jellyyou'll want to use the right PID instead of $$
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16:58.28greycatYou are expected to run "ps -ef" or whatever.
16:58.39greycator "ps -fp YOURPID"
16:59.33DammitJimok, great
16:59.36DammitJimtty says ?
16:59.53greycatThen just kill it.  It's not running in a terminal, so something bad happened.  You will never find out what.
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17:10.06annadaneif gnome changes everything every version it _really_ must be a culture shock to those who follow the debian stable release cycle of 2 years between versions
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17:10.22discoveredDebian turn off the monitor for seconds after login. It is happening after installation of nvidia driver from stretch backports. Is it normal?
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17:15.39lrwerewolf_I am trying to build a preseed for automated installs.  My issue is with partitioning.  My current attempt can be seen at https://pastebin.com/BLCKv3Fh , which shows sources I've referenced and the desired layout.  When run, I get notified that it failed to partition (no partition that can be created on lvm) and then no root (inf. loop).  Can anyone look and see what I'm doing wrong?
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17:20.55rk[ghost]i am having quite some trouble trying to pull a package from testing...
17:21.38rk[ghost]i have added : 'deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free' to sources.list
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17:49.39jfbourdeauHello everyone. I am new to Debian,   I installed Debian Strech/Gnome  and just upgraded it to Debian/Buster because I was having some issue with my HP OfficeJet Printer.  NOw the printing is ok, but the scanner does not work.... Is not recognized... Anyone could help me figureout why ?  I tried to install : sh hplip-3.18.10.run  but it was giviing error about " missing  pyqt4-dbus "
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17:50.29jfbourdeauMy Printer is a OfficeJet Pro 8600 Plus
17:52.09madagedo  you have package python-qt4-dbus installed?
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17:52.53jfbourdeaumadage:  yoda@yoda:~$ sudo dpkg -i pyqt4-dbus
17:52.53jfbourdeaudpkg: error: cannot access archive 'pyqt4-dbus': No such file or directory
17:52.53jfbourdeauyoda@yoda:~$
17:52.53dpkgjfbourdeau: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
17:53.24madageread again
17:53.28madagepython-qt4-dbus
17:53.44greycatalso, dpkg -i is not how you ask whether it's installed.  this isn't rpm.
17:53.48madageand dpkg?
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17:54.12madage--get-selections maybe
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17:54.39greycatOh come on, seriously.  It's "dpkg -l pkgname" to ask for the installation state of a package.  And it doesn't need sudo.
17:54.40jfbourdeauhow to I install ( sorry, I am a newbie with respect to Debian )
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17:54.48greycatl as in list
17:54.52madageif you are on buster, you should be aware of these
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17:58.10jfbourdeauso the right way / command to install pyqt4-dbus  ? anyone ?   apt-get install  name ?   dpkg -i package name ? if I am not in the right debian forum for newbie question, my appologies. I come from the Ubuntu world and my skills are limited
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17:58.36greycatWhy should we bother helping if you keep ignoring everything that we tell you?
17:59.01greycatHow on EARTH did you manage to upgrade to buster if you don't even know how to request the installation of a package by name?
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17:59.30jfbourdeaugreycat: do you always talk like this to newcomer & If I offended you  in anyway, my apoligies... I may have missed something that you saw that was obvious to you and not to me... Tks for your patient though
17:59.49greycat12:52  madage> do  you have package python-qt4-dbus installed?
17:59.54greycat12:53  madage> read again
17:59.56greycat12:53  madage> python-qt4-dbus
18:00.05jfbourdeaudpkg -l python-qt4-dbus
18:00.05jfbourdeauDesired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
18:00.05jfbourdeau| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
18:00.05jfbourdeau|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
18:00.05jfbourdeau||/ Name            Version          Architecture Description
18:00.05jfbourdeau+++-===============-================-============-==============================
18:00.05jfbourdeauii  python-qt4-dbus 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 amd64        D-Bus Support for PyQt4
18:00.05dpkgii  python-qt4-dbus                 3.2-4           ultra s3kr1t #debian package
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18:07.16KadiganHey, guys... I know rel versions are locked on current-stable, so... how do I get the latest Apache2 on? There's a way newer one on Ondrej's PPA, but it relies on a bunch of stuff I can't resolve. Is there some way I could get around this?
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18:08.36Kadigan(I'm on 9.5)
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18:09.10RoyK!ppa
18:09.10dpkg[ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>).  PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!).  Choose your repos wisely.  No equivalent exists for Debian yet.  Ask me about <why not use a ppa>.
18:09.40jfbourdeauBeen kicked but not sure why
18:09.41annadane,v apache2
18:09.42juddPackage: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u13; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u12; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u12; stretch-security: 2.4.25-3+deb9u4; stretch: 2.4.25-3+deb9u6; buster: 2.4.37-1; sid: 2.4.37-1
18:10.00annadanejfbourdeau, because you pasted a lot of lines and the bot kicked you for spam, use paste.debian.net instead
18:10.03greycatThe point of a stable release is not to have the "highest version number" all the time, but rather, a carefully selected and well-tested suite of programs that work.
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18:10.49KadiganNo, I get that. I wanted to have that particular software up to a newer revision in order to enable TLS 1.3 support - and that's either 2.4.36 or 2.4.37, I believe.
18:10.59jfbourdeautks annadane
18:11.25greycatjfbourdeau: so the answer was "yes, I have python-qt4-dbus version 4.12.1+dfsg-2+b1 installed."
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18:13.20N3X15,v lighttpd
18:13.21juddPackage: lighttpd on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.4.31-4+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.4.31-4+deb7u5; jessie: 1.4.35-4+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1.4.35-4+deb8u1; stretch: 1.4.45-1; buster: 1.4.49-1.1+b1; sid: 1.4.49-1.1+b1
18:15.24annadanejudd, checkbackport apache2 --fromrelease sid --torelease stretch
18:15.25juddBackporting package apache2 in sid→stretch/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libapr1-dev (>= 1.6.0), libaprutil1-dev (>= 1.6.0), libssl-dev (>= 1.1.1).
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18:15.31annadaneah. was just curious.
18:16.01jfbourdeauthis error trying to install HPLIP http://paste.debian.net/1052336/ to fix my scanner / driver problem
18:16.13greycat!debian-next
18:16.13dpkg#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode.  If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
18:17.50annadaneif you had a problem with a printer and upgraded to buster due to it but don't know package management basics, i can't help but wonder if the answer was "you can fix it in stretch already, don't upgrade to buster", but whatever
18:18.03annadanebecause buster may/will break
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18:20.07jfbourdeaufrom what I read annadane I was under the impression buster has everything " more recent " including drivers... BUt it was may be a bad move. instead of troubleshooting in stretch, as My skills are limited, took the chance to move to buster thinking it would fix the problem by itself..As I heard Ubuntu is based on Buster ( am I right ) and that my printer / scanner was working well on Ubunt...
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18:20.33annadanethis is why you ask #debian for support
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18:21.00N3X15lighttpd appears to be broken with TLS v1.3 on stretch with a bug which was fixed in upstream.  https://redmine.lighttpd.net/issues/2912
18:21.03annadaneupgrading to testing is a legitimate reason sometimes and does fix issues sometimes but the first step would be to ask this channel
18:21.33N3X15Should I just go ahead and compile it with the patch myself or are there plans to implement that fix?
18:21.36lrwerewolfAnyone here good with preseed partitioning expert recipes?  Having some issues with my preseed (found at: https://pastebin.com/BLCKv3Fh ).  The comments in the file document sources I've referenced and the desired layout.  When run however, it fails to partition the selected disk, then loops on the no root file system error indefinitely.
18:21.58madagejfbourdeau: where are you trying to install this driver from?
18:21.58annadaneso as far as buster goes, it enters freeze fairly soon and you may want to stay on it at this point, but it does break more than stable, but if you want stable you'd basically need to reinstall, debian doesn't really support downgrades, it's up to you
18:22.03andywwwpotentially stupid question.. is there anything that can be done through VPN wizardry that can let me log into my network at home (dynamically assigned IP) remotely without having some sort of dyndns demon running constantly monitoring the IP for changes?
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18:23.24madagejfbourdeau: and did you get any logs on the failing scanner before trying to install
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18:24.05jfbourdeaumadage:  your question as simple as it is is complicated for me :-)    do you mean what are my sources ? http://paste.debian.net/1052337/
18:25.10jfbourdeaumadage:   when  tryint to install HPlib, the installer now point to other packages http://paste.debian.net/1052336
18:26.20lrwerewolfandywww: Bit of a kludgey idea, but potentially -- create a personal github project, then write a script that curls whatismyip.com to a file every so often, compares it to previous, if different, copies current to previous and overwrites current, then commit/pushes the file to your github project.  That way wherever you are you can determine the outside ip, and prevents flooding the commit log.
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18:27.04madagejfbourdeau: so, maybe upgrading isn't the best course of action
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18:28.04jfbourdeaumadage:   is it simple to go back to Strech now that I am in Buster, without reinstalling all my apps ?
18:28.32greycatNo.  There's no going back without reinstalling from scratch.
18:28.40madageno, backup and reinstall
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18:28.51jfbourdeautks greycat  ( I am learning a lot today )
18:29.25BCMMlrwerewolf: andywww already left, but you can run certain proper dynamic dns clients as a cron job as well as as a daemon
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18:30.04jfbourdeauok tks madage and greycat wherever you are in the world :-)  I will google a bit and try to fix it, staying at Buster... And worse case, reinstall
18:30.07madageafter that you can search on backports, if you are unable to print
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18:30.36jfbourdeauok madage ( backports)...  Will google what it means to search  on backports ;-)
18:30.51greycat!stretch-backports
18:30.51dpkgSome packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in the stretch-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>.
18:30.56bitessjfbourdeau: backports doesn't matter to you if you stay on buster.
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18:31.11jfbourdeauok bitess
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18:31.49bitessjfbourdeau: are you still trying to get that script of yours to run? how is that going?
18:31.57jfbourdeauunderstood though... Backports is NEW STUFF we can incorportate into Stretch without going to Buster or a new version
18:33.05jfbourdeauwill go again read the basics about stable, testing, unstable and so on... Tks again... I have  debian/Linux 101 homework to do now :-)
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18:33.53jfbourdeaubitess: I was trying to install some HP new version in case it could fix my driver problem http://paste.debian.net/1052336
18:35.23jfbourdeaubitess:  this is a part of what I got runing hplip-3.18.10.run   thiking it would install more recente drivers/hp librairies
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18:42.55bitess,i hplip
18:42.56juddPackage hplip (utils, optional) in stretch/amd64: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). Version: 3.16.11+repack0-3; Size: 141.3k; Installed: 316k; Homepage: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/hplip
18:43.10bitessjfbourdeau: did you try hplip from the debian repos?
18:43.45annadaneanyone have any recommendations for a menu for tint2?
18:44.12annadaneactually i was trying to use rofi and couldn't get it to work, i should probably just stick to that...
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18:49.19SerajewelKSsharp15: iirc, dpkg-reconfigure console-data
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18:54.34annadaneok, i don't understand what's going on with openbox here. i edit .config/openbox/rc.xml, put in the keybind for rofi, it gives me an error message when i "reconfigure" and now i can't right click on the desktop
18:54.46annadanei'll paste the rc.xml, you can see where i added rofi
18:55.29annadanehttp://termbin.com/srvw
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18:56.38annadanehttps://file.io/nbKzOk
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18:58.05annadane"404 page not found" for that file.io link... what?
18:58.19annadanei guess it expires really quickly or something
18:58.41annadaneanyway, https://imgur.com/a/F8zUvio
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18:59.48sharp15SerajewelKS: well.  it says that package isn't installed.
19:02.17bitessannadane: you don't close the <action> tag.
19:02.27bitessannadane: line 177
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19:03.31annadanebitess, sorry, not understanding
19:03.37jfbourdeaubitess: " hplip from the debian repos? " I downloaded it from HP
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19:04.01bitessannadane: you have an <action> tag in line 177. you need to close it with </action>
19:04.13annadaneah
19:04.30BCMMjfbourdeau: right, is that because the one included from debian is too old for your hardware, or what?
19:05.12bitessjfbourdeau: yes, you got it from hp and you have problems installing it. debian offers exactly the same version as official debian package.
19:05.35SerajewelKSsharp15: i think it changed.  console-setup
19:05.40jfbourdeauBCMM:  googling here and there, ended up taking the HP one thiking it would be more recent and solve my problem.
19:05.42SerajewelKSit used to be console-data
19:05.44jfbourdeaunow I just did : sudo apt-get install hplip
19:06.06sharp15SerajewelKS: keyboard-configuration got it.  now i need make sure its changed in the initramfs.
19:06.36BCMMjfbourdeau: so now do you have two different versions installed on top of each other? or was the version from the hp site a .deb that cleanly uninstalls?
19:07.24SerajewelKSsharp15: might have to manually update it
19:08.23jfbourdeauBCMM:  the HP one I tried to install was from a file I needed to run,    sh hplip-3.18.10.run
19:08.34jfbourdeauso it is some script
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19:09.13jfbourdeauif you ask me if I now stuff ( librairies / drivers ) from both installed ? May be... / Don't know
19:09.20BCMMit would probably be advisible to uninstall that before trying the debian version
19:09.28BCMM(i hope it comes with an uninstaller...)
19:09.34jfbourdeaunope
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19:10.01jfbourdeauI installed the one from Debian, my printer is still " printer properly" but no luck with the scanner
19:10.09jfbourdeausorry for typo
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19:13.47jfbourdeaumay be one last question in case i decide to reinstall... I install Debian / Gnome on my Main Desktop and   Ubunty Gnome on my TV PC ( because of some wireless card driver problem, Ubuntu got it working easily).   For my main, desktop PC, what advantage do you see for me to use Debian/Gnome instaid of Ubuntu/gnome ( both same interface)... Is Debian/ Gnome faster or more stable ?
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19:13.59annadanebitess, http://termbin.com/7ycd - what's wrong with it now? i get no error message but windows + e does nothing
19:14.11N3X15Well
19:14.33bitessannadane: no idea, i never touched openbox.
19:14.41N3X15Looks like the lighttpd maintainer is AWOL and the package in stable is completely broken with TLS 1.3. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913251
19:15.08N3X15I'm getting this issue as of last night.
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19:17.30annadanewell, whatever then. i'll go ask somewhere more openbox focused
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19:19.39jhutchins_wkHas anybody running chrome/xfce/stretch seen keyboard oddities, certain shortcuts not working?
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19:21.08Mathisenjhutchins_wk, i machines with just that setup and i have not seen it
19:21.22Mathisenusing chromium and not chrome doh
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19:21.35bitessannadane: find out how to trigger commands with keybindings. it's probably not going to be through an attribute called "name"
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19:21.56bitessannadane: if you look at the other keybindings, there is a <command> tag.
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19:24.40jfbourdeauto those who tried to helped my for my HP OfficeJet 8600 Scanner problem, tks... problem solved
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19:26.42jhutchins_wkMathisen: Thanks for the response anyway.  I have a second machine I can test on, but it has a different upgrade history.
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19:38.35lrwerewolf_Can anyone recommend a good reference for partman expert-recipes?  The partman-auto-recipe.txt really has not been at all helpful nor the other blogs/articles I've found on the topic.
19:44.30bramfordlrwerewofl_: I used the example preseed + hours of trial-and-error to figure it out - https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/example-preseed.txt
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19:46.19bramfordlrwerewolf_: Here's my preseed which uses LVM for everything including /boot - https://github.com/bramford/packer-debian9/blob/master/http/preseed.cfg
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19:53.26lrwerewolf_bramford: That's the spot where I'm getting tripped up -- for reasons I have no control over, /boot must be physical primary partition 1.
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20:00.32lrwerewolf_But I suppose right now, to be honest, even having /boot in the LVM would be progress if it installed cleanly.... lemme give that atry.
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20:06.25AciD`hey, anybody here knows how to 'reset' the bogofilter spam filter? Somehow it started to classify 99% of my mail as spam :/
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20:10.16Tom-_never used bogofilter, does it have a configuration directory?
20:11.42jhutchins_wkIt should have a file (or a database) where it stores known spam characteristics.
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20:14.43AciD`Tom-_ ⟹ it has, in ~/.bogofilter, and according to their faq there should be a way to 'reset' the token (http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/faq.shtml#remove-spam-or-nonspam), however when I run that command, it fails
20:15.15AciD`jhutchins ⟹ I guess I'll just delete the file and hope that my emails clients will not enter in a dead lock
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21:05.07zmeuhello guys. i have some trouble with my debian , when i try to download over http all is good. but on https my connection speed its low, too low. what I can do to fix ?
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21:06.22NetTerminalGenezmeu, download with what?
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21:06.32zmeuany files
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21:06.57zmeuor youtube, facebook watch, this happen just on HTTPS links
21:07.34NetTerminalGenewith firefox?
21:07.52NetTerminalGenei don't think is it because of debian
21:08.05zmeuwith any apps
21:08.08zmeualso i created a hotspot
21:08.11zmeuand same trouble
21:08.25zmeuit can be from sysctl.conf?
21:08.58SerajewelKSis your CPU too slow to handle the decryption?
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21:09.30zmeu3 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz
21:09.48AciD`for info, removing the bogofilter db file does not break kmail
21:09.49SerajewelKSwhat about using wget/curl to download something?
21:10.07zmeuwget/curl = same problem ; hotspot to another device = same problem
21:10.15zmeuthis happen just on https
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21:10.40zmeuhttps://clbin.com/7uwK7 - my sysctl.conf
21:11.00SerajewelKSthe only way i can even think of something like that happening is if you have iptables marking https packets for tc filters that put them in a class with very restricted bandwidth
21:11.07SerajewelKSbut you'd have to pretty specifically set that up
21:11.26zmeui didnt do anything just sysctl change
21:11.32SerajewelKSwhat change?
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21:11.39zmeu[23:10:40]  <zmeu>https://clbin.com/7uwK7 - my sysctl.conf
21:11.42SerajewelKSalso, does the same thing happen on a different user?  what if you run wget/curl as root?
21:11.51SerajewelKSthat doesn't tell me what you changed
21:11.52zmeui tried
21:11.53zmeuuser / root
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21:12.55zmeucan be from this: iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -m tcpmss --mss 0:65535 -j TCPMSS --set-mss 1360 ?
21:13.34SerajewelKSit's possible.  what are your INPUT rules?
21:13.43greycatIf you get rid of your iptables rules, and the problem goes away, then you know it was probably your iptables rules.
21:13.44SerajewelKSif you're blindly blocking ICMP then PMTU discovery may fail
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21:14.46SerajewelKSi ran into this where i couldn't reach Sprint's website over IPv6 because they were blocking ICMPv6 packet-too-large errors generated by my router
21:15.33zmeuhttps://pastebin.com/raw/6kJ6karh my iptables
21:16.40SerajewelKSif wget/curl run on this server then the FORWARD chain is irrelevant since locally-generated packets don't go through that
21:17.02zmeuso what can be
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21:17.45SerajewelKSi'd say follow greycat's advice.  remove rules one by one until the problem goes away.
21:17.51Tenkawait sounds like cpu/nic perforance
21:18.21Tenkawaif its specific to encryption
21:18.28SerajewelKSi'm not sure how the NIC would be that involved, HTTPS has more overhead but not that much...
21:18.36SerajewelKSin terms of traffic, i mean
21:18.44SerajewelKSand i don't know any NICs that do TLS offloading
21:19.00zmeutoo weird
21:19.06TenkawaSerajewelKS: depends on the website cert too though
21:19.08SerajewelKSCPU is more than powerful enough
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21:19.43Tenkawait is definitely odd
21:20.02zmeu64 bytes from 1.1.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=58 time=13.0 ms
21:20.04SerajewelKSwhat does top say about the downloading process?
21:20.06Tenkawazmeu: anything in syslog?
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21:20.18SerajewelKSexcessive CPU use?  RAM use?
21:20.22SerajewelKShigh iowait?
21:20.34jhutchins_wkzmeu: Back the sysctl changes out, test, make them a few at a time and test each group.
21:20.37zmeuno
21:21.00zmeuMEM used 334 kb
21:21.07zmeu6271 kb free
21:21.14jhutchins_wkzmeu: Are you using this as a router?
21:21.19zmeuyes
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21:24.39SerajewelKSis the whole connection slow, or just the initial handshake?
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21:25.14zmeujust the initial handshake
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21:25.43SerajewelKSmight tcpdump to see where it's getting stuck
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21:26.01Tenkawahave you checked your dns routing
21:26.02sharp15SerajewelKS: ty for your help earlier.
21:26.04SerajewelKSsome TLS clients do reverse DNS lookups against the server IP
21:26.12SerajewelKSif that's timing out, that could explain the delay
21:26.14SerajewelKSsharp15: np
21:26.25SerajewelKStcpdump or strace against curl
21:26.56zmeuok i will try
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21:43.15agiohi, when I look into my Xorg.log files I see entries that look like:
21:43.19agio[311706.119] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
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21:44.10agiohow can I print log file so that this  [311706.119] becomes a human readble timestamp?
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21:44.25greycatit's 311706 seconds after the kernel started
21:45.04greycat(roughly 3.6 hours)
21:45.18greycaterr... 3.6 days
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21:46.15N3X15holy hell lighttpd took a long time to fix
21:46.32greycatIn any case, discover what the real life time was when your kernel booted (e.g. by running uptime and doing the arithmetic on that), and then add 311706 seconds to it, and there you are.
21:46.58agioisn't there a way to make the computer work that out?
21:47.46greycatgoogles gives me https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2013/10/31/how-to-deal-with-dmesg-timestamps/
21:47.54Ede|Popede`uptime -s` has a nice output format for scripting the calculation
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21:48.47greycatMeh, it's ... not that nice.  It wants to be in epoch (date +%s) form.
21:48.55greycatI guess you can feed it to GNU date -d to convert it.
21:49.17agiomaybe thats what the -s (since) option helps with
21:49.45agioit gives you an absolute timestamp of when system booted, it seems
21:49.56greycatNo, I tested it before I wrote here.  uptime -s does not give date +%s format.
21:50.16greycatIt gives you yyyy-mm-dd HH:MM:SS format (man page says so).
21:50.59greycatSo, you could feed that to date -d +%s to get an epoch format to which you can add 311706 seconds, which you can then feed back into GNU date -d @$seconds to get a human-readable form.
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21:51.38greycatBut if you're translating more than one line, you really want to use something that has builtin time manipulations.  NOT bash.  Bash is horrible for this.  Forking a date(1) command for every line of a large log file is unacceptable.
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21:52.22greycatSecond google result I looked at has a perl version and a python version, quality unknown to me: https://linuxaria.com/article/how-to-make-dmesg-timestamp-human-readable
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21:52.59agiook, so `date  -d' is where Im passing a time to date (as opposed to "now")
21:53.05greycat*sigh*
21:53.07greycatwhy do I bother
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21:58.54InvisibleRastaguys is it possible to install with the debian iso on a btrfs subvolume?
21:59.05InvisibleRastai tried with debootstrap so many times.. i keep getting errors
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21:59.43nolnyes
21:59.52InvisibleRastawhat iso should i grab?
22:00.08InvisibleRastanetinstall one?
22:00.15nolnworks with netinst at least
22:00.21SerajewelKSaren't you the guy who tried debootstrap and for some reason had files missing
22:00.30SerajewelKSbut it worked on an ext4 volume
22:00.31InvisibleRastayeah
22:00.37InvisibleRastano it didnt
22:00.43SerajewelKSoh it didn't?
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22:01.07InvisibleRastai get missing stuff
22:01.09InvisibleRastaall the times
22:01.12InvisibleRastaidk whats wrong with it
22:01.30SerajewelKSweird
22:02.06InvisibleRastanoln: the 300mb image?
22:02.20InvisibleRastadebian-9.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso
22:04.13BrigoInvisibleRasta, are you aware of lxc?
22:04.20InvisibleRastawhat is that?
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22:07.22InvisibleRastanot sure
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22:10.53RoyKInvisibleRasta: ever heard of docker?
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22:13.00Aqohi guys
22:13.07Aqois there go (golang) in apt-get
22:13.14Aqoor should I download it manually with curl
22:13.28bites,v golang
22:13.29juddPackage: golang on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0.2-1.1; wheezy-security: 2:1.0.2-1.1+deb7u3; jessie: 2:1.3.3-1; jessie-backports: 2:1.7~5~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:1.7~5; stretch-backports: 2:1.10~5~bpo9+1; buster: 2:1.10~5; sid: 2:1.10~5
22:13.31Aqothe name "go" isn't very search-friendly
22:13.38bitesit's there.
22:13.40Aqoah
22:13.49Aqoso I should use "golang"
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22:13.57Aqothanks
22:14.24bitesno problemo
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22:23.05hydrajumpwhen booted from netinstall ISO in Expert Install mode when I "Execute a Shell" and try to edit some files using vim the editor behaves kinda strange. For example when I try to add an empty line using `o` a line is deleted. Is this because the bterm is limited somehow?
22:23.41OS-42477hey
22:23.45n4dirhydrajump: it probably is vi, not vim.
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22:24.23n4dirnot sure if that is your problem, i don't know the difference that well.
22:24.24Eduard_MunteanuHi. I recently dist-upgraded to stretch-backports and I get "*** Error in `gnome-control-center': double free or corruption (out): 0x0000560662a07b10 ***" when trying to edit network settings.
22:24.26Eduard_MunteanuAny ideas?
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22:24.57hydrajumpn4dir: hmm I checked and it says it's vim 8
22:25.01n4diryes. don't do that again. there is no dist-upgrade to backports.
22:25.17n4dirhydrajump: it was only a wild guess. i can't say more. good luck.
22:26.00Eduard_Munteanun4dir, isn't that equivalent to simply upgrading all packages to their backports counterparts?
22:26.41n4dirEduard_Munteanu: it is, but that is not the way backports is used. You install the (few) packages you need from backports. More like that.
22:27.07n4dirmakes sense? pretty tired.
22:27.26Eduard_MunteanuI'll roll back then.
22:27.48hydrajumpn4dir: no worries. thank you
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22:28.37pho}e{nixHello everyone. I've got a tricky problem :) I want to configure some kind of "proxy" or "vpn tunnel" which will allow me to access multicast streaming from another site. Details: I have a machine running with a static ip on Site 1. If I were to use VLC player on that machine I can access all my TV programs without issues. I have now moved to another home and would like to access those same TV programs. I've tried setting up an OpenVPN
22:28.37pho}e{nixserver on Site 1 and connect to it from Site 2 but I cannot get the IPTV thing in VLC to start streaming. It looks like it does not forward as it should. Has anyone got experience with similar cases? Please help me out. My antenna here gets like 5 national channels and they all suck pretty bad.
22:28.50OS-42477I am not getting reverse shell while exploiting VilnServer.exe. My shellcode gets executed into the memory I checked and i got a message during attaching the the vulnserver with immunity debugger that "module 'vulnServ' has entry point outside the code(as specified in the PE header). May be this file is self-extracting or self-modifying. Please keep in mind when setting breakpoints!"
22:29.37OS-42477thanks in advance
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22:36.02petn-randallOS-42477: You're in the wrong channel.
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22:36.38petn-randall!kali
22:36.38dpkgKali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>.  It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian.  Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ .  Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
22:36.42petn-randall!parrot
22:36.42dpkgParrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org, the community pages https://docs.parrotsec.org/community, or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>.
22:36.51petn-randallOS-42477: Probably one of those. ^^^
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22:58.38InvisibleRastameh i cant install debian with net isntall
22:58.44InvisibleRastaits missing the iwlwifi modules
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23:01.20Brigo_InvisibleRasta, you need the  firmware provided by non-free repositories. They are missiong in the official release but you can get them from non official ones.
23:01.35InvisibleRastawhere do i ge tthem?
23:01.36Brigo_http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
23:02.01InvisibleRastaBrigo: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stretch/20181110/
23:02.04InvisibleRastathis one?
23:02.45InvisibleRastahttps://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stretch/current/
23:02.46Brigono, the netinstall.
23:02.55InvisibleRastahmm
23:03.07InvisibleRastaim not sure
23:03.14Brigoget the netinstall with firmware from there and install with that.
23:03.31InvisibleRastawhere is it^
23:03.37Brigoyou can get those files, put them in an usb and use them, of course.
23:03.44Brigohttps://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.6.0+nonfree/
23:03.45InvisibleRastai tried
23:03.47InvisibleRastadidnt work
23:03.50InvisibleRastait didnt find them
23:04.21InvisibleRastai need to extract them Brigo ?
23:05.15BrigoInvisibleRasta, it is an installer, put it in a usb and install from it.
23:05.31InvisibleRastai alredy have the installer i miss the firmwares
23:05.36InvisibleRastaat least thats what the installer says
23:05.38Brigoit is a netinstal with firmware
23:05.47InvisibleRastaalso the touchpad doesnt work but i guess i can do it with KB
23:05.57Brigothis netinstall do has the firmware.
23:06.04Brigothat's the point.
23:06.23InvisibleRastaoh
23:06.38InvisibleRastatought i could use the firmware files as the netinstall iso told me
23:07.30BrigoInvisibleRasta, yes, you could, that is another option. Install with non official netinstall it is easier.
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23:08.06SerajewelKSInvisibleRasta: you could also just do a full install from DVD 1
23:08.10SerajewelKSand skip the netinstall
23:08.20InvisibleRastai see
23:08.29SerajewelKSwell, full is the wrong term.  offline.
23:08.38SerajewelKSDVD 1 doesn't need internet access to install a working system
23:09.42InvisibleRastaproblem i need to install on a subvolume
23:09.46InvisibleRastabtrfs subvolume
23:09.54InvisibleRastaand i was told i can do it wth netinstall iso
23:09.58InvisibleRastaso thats why im  using that
23:10.17SerajewelKSthat doesn't mean you can't do it with DVD 1
23:10.31SerajewelKS"X can do Y" doesn't imply "X is the only thing that can do Y"
23:10.53InvisibleRastameh im one week trying to install debian
23:10.55SerajewelKSyou asked if the netinstall could do it, people said yes
23:11.03BrigoInvisibleRasta, use lxc as i already told you.
23:11.13InvisibleRastain the meanwhile i compiled gentoo and got a running system
23:11.20SerajewelKSthen use gentoo
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23:44.33InvisibleRastaguys how do i trick the installer to pick up my root subvolume
23:44.35InvisibleRasta?
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23:47.03InvisibleRastai tried as i usually do mount -t btrfs -o subvol=@debian /dev/sda5 /mnt/
23:47.09InvisibleRastabut the isntaller doesnt pick it up
23:47.14InvisibleRastaas a drive
23:47.37SerajewelKSInvisibleRasta: if you mount it on /target and skip the partitioning step, i *think* that should work
23:47.56InvisibleRastaliterally to /target or to /mnt?
23:48.06SerajewelKSyou have to choose "go back" until you get a list of choices and then select the one after partitioning, which i think is "install base system"
23:48.10SerajewelKSliterally to /target
23:48.13InvisibleRastaah
23:48.15InvisibleRastadamn it
23:48.17InvisibleRastaty
23:48.27SerajewelKSthat's where the installer expects to find the install target's root volume
23:48.33InvisibleRastacool
23:48.35InvisibleRastaty
23:48.37InvisibleRastahope it works
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