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| 00:22.20 | tharkun | Aloha, Good $DAY. I have a lack of understanding. On xfce .xprofile is beeing read setting xetxkbmap -option caps:swapescape the way I ask for it. Why doesn't it work on Gnome3? |
| 00:23.35 | tharkun | setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape when called from a terminal works perfectly. |
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| 00:46.50 | InvisibleRasta | how do i determine if i should install bumblebee-nvidia or nvidia-drivers + bumblebee |
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| 00:48.12 | ghormoon | hi, is there a way to say (maybe in fstab) to system to not fail if mount of specific disk fails? |
| 00:48.25 | ghormoon | I know I can do noauto, but then I'd need to hack it somewhere to mount actually |
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| 01:07.53 | ghormoon | found nofail, it helped |
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| 02:25.07 | annadane | is there a way of telling if my external drive's name is always the same? |
| 02:25.19 | annadane | like the mount point |
| 02:25.37 | annadane | not /dev/sdb but /media/anndane/<numbers> |
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| 02:27.53 | dvs | annadane, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ |
| 02:28.14 | dvs | that? |
| 02:28.48 | annadane | yeah it contains a single symlink, so i assume that means it's always that |
| 02:29.01 | dvs | yes |
| 02:29.14 | dvs | until you reformat it |
| 02:29.37 | annadane | basically what i'm trying to do is alias that to some shorter word so i don't have to blah /media/anndane/hugelistofnumbers when i want to do something |
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| 02:44.24 | agio | annadane: do you mean you want to see something like: /media/annadane/my_media_device or something human readble like that? |
| 02:44.46 | annadane | nah i just wondered if it was consistently the same identifier |
| 02:45.03 | annadane | i don't care what format it's in, just wanted to add it to .bash_aliases |
| 02:45.34 | agio | from what I've read (I think on debians fstab wiki or man page) you can't trust it to be the same |
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| 02:46.37 | agio | their recommendation was to add your own custom label and use that (e.g. in /etc/fstab ) if you want to guarantee consistency |
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| 04:43.42 | Sabotender | hey quick question...how do I find/save the bash/terminal log? I am going to move my project from actual linux to a VM and I need to have a record of all the tools that I installed |
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| 04:44.19 | Sabotender | oops my bad, I meant to ask this in linux |
| 04:44.50 | annadane | the actual stuff you installed if you used apt is in /var/log/apt, as for actual terminal output... hmm |
| 04:45.57 | annadane | i'm actually not sure there is one |
| 04:46.41 | annadane | but yeah generically the packages you installed are in /var/log/apt |
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| 06:02.27 | tsarompy | hi #debian <333 |
| 06:02.53 | tsarompy | i have nothing to add i just wanted to say thanks for such a wonderful OS <3 |
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| 06:33.49 | darxmurf | except for the cifs-utils/kernel issue still not fixed... |
| 06:34.01 | darxmurf | this bug is open since the middle age and is quite critical |
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| 06:51.36 | willemb | apt-show0-versions is having problems with a 3rd party package. It thinks what I have is newer than what is in the (3rd party) repo. I know this is not debian's problem, but I am asking here because you guys probably know the most about package versions. |
| 06:52.14 | willemb | docker-ce went from version 18.06.1~ce~3-0~debian to version 5:18.09.0~3-0~debian-stretch. Am I right in interpreting that as them adding an epoch to the version? |
| 06:52.24 | willemb | and could that be what is confusing apt-show-versions? |
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| 07:09.23 | jelly | willemb: can you show actual command line and output of the tool? |
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| 07:10.59 | jelly | willemb: and also "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy docker-ce" |
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| 07:20.29 | willemb | https://paste.debian.net/1052476/ |
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| 07:22.30 | willemb | I have been adding debug prints to the tool, and it looks like apt-show-versions skips over version 5:18.09.0~3-0~debian-stretch |
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| 07:37.53 | jelly | willemb: I meant full output of apt-show-versions, not some grep |
| 07:38.48 | jelly | willemb: the manual says "apt-show-versions packagename" is valid syntax |
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| 07:40.32 | jelly | willemb: also, where's the output of just "apt-cache policy" ? |
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| 07:51.51 | willemb | i think I might have found it. using a web browser to look at the repo, the version I have installed is not listed. I wonder if they pulled it |
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| 07:54.18 | willemb | or does the epoch not necessarily show in the filename? |
| 07:54.40 | willemb | output of apt-cache policy: https://paste.debian.net/1052574/ |
| 07:54.47 | tsarompy | willemb: what comes up if you search aptitude search packagename |
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| 07:55.53 | willemb | i docker-ce - Docker: the open-source application container engine |
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| 07:55.56 | willemb | i A docker-ce-cli - Docker CLI: the open-source application container engine |
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| 07:57.10 | tsarompy | doesnt show the version name eh |
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| 07:57.18 | tsarompy | lemme see what i get for that package 1 sec |
| 07:57.45 | willemb | take into account that I am installing it from docker's repo, not debians |
| 07:57.47 | tsarompy | oh derp yea it doesnt show version numbers |
| 07:57.53 | tsarompy | oh i see |
| 07:58.07 | tsarompy | cant you pin the repos version if its newer |
| 07:58.35 | willemb | the problem is that apt-show-versions seems to ignore the version I have installed. |
| 07:58.59 | willemb | when it looks at what is available in the repo, even though it is there |
| 07:59.02 | tsarompy | oh |
| 07:59.08 | tsarompy | have you tried lookin at this |
| 07:59.10 | tsarompy | https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 08:00.03 | tsarompy | hm ok |
| 08:00.13 | tsarompy | why not uninstall the version you have and install the newer version from debians repo? |
| 08:00.16 | tsarompy | or did you not want to |
| 08:00.45 | willemb | i have the newest version in the repo, accordingto apt-cache policy |
| 08:01.42 | tsarompy | do you see it in /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 08:01.54 | willemb | apt-show-versions either thinks it is not the newest, or it thinks the version I have installed does not exist in the repo. I have not figured out yet how to enumerate what it evaluated |
| 08:02.03 | willemb | if i purge and install, I get the same version again |
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| 08:02.09 | tsarompy | weird |
| 08:02.24 | willemb | 5:18.09.0~3-0~debian-stretch is newer than 18.06.1~ce~3-0~debian |
| 08:02.41 | tsarompy | well, if it was me, i would cd to /var/cache/apt/archives and remove it manually then install the version in the repo |
| 08:03.31 | tsarompy | im not sure, im kind of confused here |
| 08:03.38 | tsarompy | :\ apologies |
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| 08:04.39 | willemb | tsarompy: I end up with the same version again. the problem is that apt-show-versions disagrees with apt-cache-policy |
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| 08:05.48 | tsarompy | man im honestly not sure. i would ask someone else whose lurking, i dont wanna mess you up. im not the best with packaging :| |
| 08:05.51 | tsarompy | sorry |
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| 08:05.59 | tsarompy | i just noticed the epoch number there |
| 08:06.09 | tsarompy | i was seeing 18.06 vs 18.09 |
| 08:06.57 | tsarompy | i know you can specify repos with apt-get have you tried that |
| 08:07.01 | tsarompy | like apt-get -t reponame/package |
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| 08:07.21 | willemb | the repo is not the problem. there are multiple packages in the same repo |
| 08:07.35 | tsarompy | ohhhh ok |
| 08:08.04 | tsarompy | whats the repo url/dir? ill give it a try and see what i get |
| 08:08.15 | willemb | it LOOKS LIKE apt-show-versions is ignoring the package in the repo that has a epoch in it |
| 08:08.22 | willemb | https://download.docker.com/linux/debian/dists/stretch/pool/stable/amd64/ |
| 08:08.36 | tsarompy | ok lemme give it a shot |
| 08:08.39 | willemb | not that the file name just says docker-ce_18...... the epoch is not in the file name |
| 08:08.47 | willemb | but it is in the metadata |
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| 08:13.02 | tsarompy | willemb: have you seen this page? https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/debian/#install-docker-ce-1 |
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| 08:14.09 | willemb | have you tried it? following that doc gets you into my situation |
| 08:14.16 | tsarompy | lol alright |
| 08:14.18 | tsarompy | im still doin it, one sec |
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| 08:21.27 | tsarompy | lol i cant even get the repo to load |
| 08:21.29 | tsarompy | jeez |
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| 08:23.50 | tsarompy | yeah this is stupid. sorry i couldnt be of any help, i wont take up any more of your time |
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| 08:25.01 | willemb | no problem |
| 08:25.03 | willemb | thanks for trying |
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| 09:00.09 | willemb | aah, if i downgrade to the older version, apt-show-versions says 'there is no available version in archive' |
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| 09:07.21 | jelly | willemb: check for relevant reports on bugs.debian.org/apt-show-versions and file one using reportbug if there is none |
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| 09:16.47 | willemb | I'm worried that there is something wrong with docker's repo or packages, rather than with apt-show-versions |
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| 09:24.46 | ujjain | Is it a breaking error ?udev 16G 0 16G 0% /dev |
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| 09:29.25 | jelly | ujjain: where's the error? |
| 09:29.38 | ujjain | no error, a java docker container is failing |
| 09:30.50 | jelly | ujjain: ok, but what does that udev df line have to do with it |
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| 09:33.22 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:33.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:34.29 | ujjain | I wanted to ask if a /dev filesystem being full is a problem or if it's supposed to look like that in df |
| 09:34.37 | ujjain | I asked the question a bit lazily. |
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| 09:36.11 | JustASlacker | never seen /dev full |
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| 09:37.38 | bezaban | full. Or empty? |
| 09:38.11 | Fox | seems totally empty there |
| 09:38.42 | jelly | ujjain: it's empty, not full. |
| 09:38.52 | jelly | that is normal |
| 09:39.29 | jelly | (well, emptyish, those couple hundred entries do not take a lof of 16GB space) |
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| 09:40.05 | jelly | compare it to /dev mountpoint on any other linux system |
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| 09:45.47 | ujjain | ah thanks jelly |
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| 09:48.34 | CruX| | hello after mariadb security update it stopped working. The problem is that i have database in /home/sys/mysql and mysqld proces started from systemd don't have permissions into that directory. How can I grant them from systemd ? |
| 09:49.03 | JustASlacker | uh, is it owned by the mysql user? |
| 09:49.18 | jelly | CruX|: which permissions does it fail? Show ls -ld / /home /home/sys /home/sys/mysql |
| 09:49.20 | jelly | !paste |
| 09:49.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 09:49.36 | jelly | and status of the service |
| 09:49.49 | JustASlacker | and output of mysql error log :) |
| 09:49.50 | JustASlacker | https://www.amazon.com/Savaged-Systemd-Erotic-Unix-Encounter-ebook/dp/B075DYXZW1 |
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| 09:50.23 | Fox | JustASlacker: you've been told yesterday that it was off-topic |
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| 09:50.32 | JustASlacker | :( |
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| 09:50.42 | jelly | next time you get a ban |
| 09:50.47 | CruX| | jelly: i think there are some restrictions set via systemd ? because command sudo -u mysql ls /home/sys/mysql works |
| 09:51.22 | jelly | maybe, I have no idea, can you show the stuff I asked? |
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| 09:52.17 | CruX| | jelly: https://pastebin.com/eeq4AkX5 |
| 09:52.21 | jelly | JustASlacker: it's not that hard to /join #debian-offtopic |
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| 09:53.33 | jelly | CruX|: my /var/lib/mysql is mod 0700. not 0755, not sure if that matters |
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| 09:55.48 | CruX| | jelly: no that doesnt help, in syslog i still have Nov 21 10:54:53 somar mysqld[16666]: ^G/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't change dir to '/home/sys/mysql/' (Errcode: 13 "Permission denied") |
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| 09:56.48 | CruX| | so maybe something is hardcoded to /var/lib/mysql :( and i need to have this db on /home |
| 09:57.35 | jelly | CruX|: what (else) does "systemctl status mariadb" say? |
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| 09:58.04 | jelly | do you have more than one instance of mariadb running? |
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| 09:59.42 | wlan2 | Hi~ Does anyone have any suggestion for something to accomplish what back in the day (gnome2) I could do with gnome-voice-control? It's not like I used it to be more productive, but it was fun to do some stuff by voice control means. |
| 10:00.11 | CruX| | jelly: only one and https://pastebin.com/UkHcyfTM |
| 10:00.53 | CruX| | jelly: if i start sudo -u mysql bash and in this bash mysqld it works |
| 10:00.55 | jelly | CruX|: if you look at /lib/systemd/system/mariadb.service, it has a "ProtectHome=true" line present |
| 10:02.26 | CruX| | jelly: that helped thanks ! |
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| 10:02.55 | jelly | CruX|: you can override that by mkdir /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.d/ and putting an extra config file in there |
| 10:03.32 | CruX| | jelly: btw how is that protection set ? apparmor,selinux is turned off on that machine |
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| 10:03.54 | jelly | no idea, seccomp? |
| 10:05.08 | jelly | CruX|: man systemd.exec has some info about ProtectHome, I haven't read it |
| 10:05.20 | CruX| | jelly: so i need to put updated mysql.service into /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.d/ ? and then systemd ignores official one ? |
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| 10:06.45 | jelly | CruX|: no, you put in additions to the default service file |
| 10:07.16 | jelly | alternatively you can copy the whole file to /etc/systemd/system/ |
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| 10:09.03 | JustASlacker | CruX|: have you tried becoming the mysql user? |
| 10:09.12 | JustASlacker | and checked if you can access that dir |
| 10:09.16 | jelly | CruX|: something like printf "[Service]\nProtectHome=false\n" > /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.d/local.conf |
| 10:09.25 | jelly | JustASlacker: they have. |
| 10:09.42 | jelly | <CruX|> jelly: i think there are some restrictions set via systemd ? because command sudo -u mysql ls /home/sys/mysql works |
| 10:09.44 | JustASlacker | oh, protecthome eh? |
| 10:10.20 | JustASlacker | you need to tell systemd to use your config afterwards |
| 10:10.51 | JustASlacker | systemctl disable mysql.service; systemctl daemon-reload; systemctl enable my_own_mysql.service |
| 10:10.54 | CruX| | JustASlacker: yes ProtectHome was turned on, before security update it was probably off |
| 10:11.02 | JustASlacker | sucks |
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| 10:12.37 | jelly | the "drop-in" option with a partial file in /etc/systemd/system/mariadb.d/ keeps the service name unchanged, so after adding it just "systemctl daemon-reload" and "systemctl start mariadb.service" |
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| 10:14.51 | grady | how to make scripts that moves files by them creation time? idea is to make backup archive |
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| 10:16.42 | colo-work | creation time is not recorded on Linux |
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| 10:18.36 | jelly | well ACTUALLY |
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| 10:19.26 | jelly | ext4 and some other filesystems do keep creation time, but there's no way to access it via POSIX |
| 10:19.49 | jelly | !crtime |
| 10:19.49 | dpkg | Some filesystems may store creation time after all, even if POSIX APIs don't expose it. Ext4 does. E.g., to check how long ago your root filesystem root directory was created: f="/"; dev=`df -P "$f"|tail -n1|awk '{print $1}'`; i=`stat -c%i "$f"`; sudo debugfs -R"stat <$i>" "$dev" 2>&1|grep ^crtime |
| 10:21.03 | colo-work | (I know.) |
| 10:21.05 | grady | hmm |
| 10:21.08 | jelly | grady: so it's a hack right now and you don't probably want to use that for backup purposes. Most backup apps track ownership, permissions and mtime (modified time) to detect changed files. |
| 10:21.28 | colo-work | take a look at restic |
| 10:21.38 | grady | perhaps i mean that mtime |
| 10:21.41 | colo-work | it's a great backup solution that's easy to operate correctly |
| 10:21.53 | colo-work | whatever you do, don't try to roll your own thing from scratch |
| 10:22.12 | Mathisen | borg is backup solusion also |
| 10:22.20 | grady | backups coming from windows machines |
| 10:22.21 | Mathisen | is a good* |
| 10:22.37 | grady | i dont find backup solutions, just way to manage these files |
| 10:22.39 | colo-work | grady, maybe take a look at backuppc |
| 10:23.25 | grady | like, new -> old -> older -> del |
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| 10:24.37 | jelly | so you're already in progress of making your own ad-hoc backup solution with retention policy |
| 10:25.17 | grady | new for first 60 days, old for next 30 days and older for 15 days and then they get removed |
| 10:25.56 | jelly | grady: well if you insist on making your own here's a hint: don't move files ever. make daily directories like YYYY-MM-DD and delete the ones you calculated are no needed any more |
| 10:26.40 | colo-work | cries silently and bitterly |
| 10:26.52 | jelly | make symlinks for "today" or "yesterday" if you need them. Or try restic and let it dedup and track snapshots for you...? |
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| 10:31.37 | grady | idea is do this all automaticly by script/tool |
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| 10:31.57 | grady | i dont want run it manual |
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| 10:33.31 | grady | the files sits on server |
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| 10:34.17 | grady | that restic seems to be nice but is it right tool for this job? |
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| 10:35.48 | colo-work | if you back up multiple windows hosts to a single Debian box, look at backuppc. it was designed to do this. |
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| 10:36.35 | vvor | grady: Is that a new dedicated server? |
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| 10:38.10 | vvor | grady: If so look at zfs as the backend file-system. |
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| 10:40.03 | vvor | grady: All you will need is rsync at the front-end. |
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| 10:40.30 | grady | what |
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| 10:44.20 | grady | so, there isnt any simple way to automaticly move files based on their creation time.. mtime isnt great because the backups changes |
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| 10:44.38 | grady | better is if the creation time is checked from directories |
| 10:44.54 | vvor | grady: Are you going for a new dedicated backup server? if so checkout the options I pointed out. |
| 10:45.04 | grady | no |
| 10:45.09 | grady | i just want move files :) |
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| 10:45.16 | grady | forget that backup |
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| 10:45.23 | grady | just files and directories |
| 10:46.00 | RoyK | grady: posix doesn't have creation time - zfs has, though, but obviously not exposed through posix, since it's missing there |
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| 10:47.54 | vvor | grady: OK! Forgot about the backup... What are you really trying to do? :-) |
| 10:48.18 | jelly | grady: if there are not many files, you can try to use debugfs as shown by dpkg bot above |
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| 10:48.53 | jelly | asssuming ext4. |
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| 10:50.11 | grady | wanted to move directories to archive location |
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| 10:52.18 | grady | want to create a script that check directories dates and move over 30 days old dirs (-R) to new location |
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| 10:52.39 | vvor | grady: rsync -ah --no-inc-recursive --info=progress2 /src /dst |
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| 10:54.50 | grady | what that -ah does? |
| 10:55.52 | vvor | grady: Archive and human readable. In a script remove the h and --no-inc-recursive --info=progress2. You can use also use --backup --suffix=$(date '+%Y-%m-%d@%H:%M') and --exclude= |
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| 10:57.10 | grady | that only copies them, it is ok to copy first but sure i want to remove source |
| 10:57.17 | grady | the idea is safe some storage |
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| 10:58.48 | vvor | grady: And then... |
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| 10:59.18 | vvor | grady: Remove source and what? |
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| 11:18.48 | grady | :) try think simple |
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| 11:23.58 | grady | ok, if there isnt simple thing called creation time, how i can keep monitoring and track my filesystem? |
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| 11:24.54 | grady | surely something needed to know when the object was created |
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| 11:25.33 | grady | especially in filemanagment |
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| 11:27.11 | grady | this is really a odd thing, how i dosnt seeing this before :) i managment files a lot |
| 11:27.22 | oo_miguel | hmmm I added "dns-search somedomain.com" to /etc/network/interfaces but it seems to take no effect. I thought this will be added to resolv.conf on startup. |
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| 11:27.41 | serard | Hello |
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| 11:29.38 | grady | hi |
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| 11:32.08 | oo_miguel | hey |
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| 11:32.51 | serard | I'm tryin to automate this https://pasteboard.co/HObwk6G.png |
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| 11:33.07 | serard | using debconf-get-selection, but I don't know which parameter to set |
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| 11:36.06 | wlan2 | serard: Did you try, say, "apt -y install"? |
| 11:36.42 | serard | sudo apt-get install --yes pdns-backend-mysql pdns-server mysql-server dnsutils resolvconf |
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| 11:36.50 | serard | with export DEBIANFRONTEND=noninteractive before |
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| 11:38.30 | serard | I need a line like sudo debconf-set-selections <<< "mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password ${mysql_root_user}" to solve this I think but dunno which one to get |
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| 11:58.38 | oo_miguel | ok, so I assume that dhclient-script keeps overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 11:58.56 | oo_miguel | It seems NOT to honour my dns-search in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 12:02.03 | shellclear | message |
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| 12:24.30 | jelly | grady: if you have control of directory names, put creation date into the name |
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| 12:25.44 | jelly | grady: and again, don't move anything unless you absolutely have to. Keep a separate symlink farm for "old" and "new" stuff. |
| 12:26.29 | jelly | keep actual paths of files stable during their whole existence |
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| 12:34.04 | wlan2 | oo_miguel: Do you have the package resolvconf installed? I think you need it to specify dns options in interfaces. |
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| 13:01.57 | InvisibleRasta | how can i solve this? http://dpaste.com/2SR1T8P |
| 13:02.07 | InvisibleRasta | its from stretch-backports |
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| 13:07.19 | Ede|Popede | InvisibleRasta: jedi is the same version in pure stretch. maybe you need to get the backported version here too. depends on python3:any (>= 3.3.2-2~) only, so it should be no problem |
| 13:08.27 | discovered | What IRC client are you guys using? |
| 13:08.56 | InvisibleRasta | Ede|Popede, im tryiRent to install thonny |
| 13:09.00 | InvisibleRasta | how shall i do it? |
| 13:09.10 | InvisibleRasta | discovered, i am using xchat and weechat |
| 13:09.29 | Ede|Popede | points InvisibleRasta to the other channel xD |
| 13:09.55 | InvisibleRasta | Ede|Popede, ?? |
| 13:10.09 | discovered | InvisibleRasta, I used hexchat, but it always get "connection reset by peer" . Now on xchat |
| 13:10.41 | Ede|Popede | oops, didn't see you here |
| 13:10.53 | InvisibleRasta | what channel |
| 13:10.54 | Ede|Popede | !bdo |
| 13:10.55 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <stretch backports>) and oldstable (<jessie backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 13:10.57 | InvisibleRasta | whatRe u talking about lol |
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| 13:11.24 | Ede|Popede | used backports only a few times when really needed, so i don't know it out of the blue |
| 13:11.50 | Ede|Popede | InvisibleRasta: ##linux, where i just had seen that xchat issue |
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| 13:12.14 | InvisibleRasta | Ede|Popede,i thiRenk ur mixing uRep things |
| 13:12.20 | InvisibleRasta | up* |
| 13:12.25 | InvisibleRasta | think |
| 13:12.44 | Ede|Popede | couldn't say i've realized hexchat being less stable than xchat |
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| 13:13.37 | Ede|Popede | InvisibleRasta: nope, only didn't see discovered's question here |
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| 13:56.02 | Ede|Popede | from man 5 apt.conf: /etc/apt/apt.conf APT configuration file. Configuration Item: Dir::Etc::Main. |
| 13:56.30 | Ede|Popede | so i define in the main configuration file a variable which names the main configuration file? |
| 13:56.49 | SerajewelKS | Ede|Popede: you can specify apt options on the command line, if you want it to read a different config file |
| 13:56.59 | SerajewelKS | this option is not meant to be used in a conf file |
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| 13:59.29 | Ede|Popede | ah, i see. i was stumbling upon it while looking after --no-install-recommends |
| 14:00.41 | Ede|Popede | is there a reason to have the default installing recommendations? eg with one of gtk2-engines-murrine's themes it makes quite a difference |
| 14:03.09 | ksk | its recommended ;) not sure who defines that in which manner |
| 14:03.39 | ksk | but Id say for the non-power-user just go with the recommends to have best experience. Harddisk space should not be an issue nowadays. |
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| 14:04.42 | ksk | if you are like building an image for a scaled server setup space might be an issue, just depends on your needs. |
| 14:05.29 | Ede|Popede | surely not, i collected all them .debs over the years before. i only find it easier to learn about the system when there's not too much stuff around |
| 14:06.46 | Ede|Popede | i started myself with the two famous floppies and enough time to have a look at every directory and every file in the system (and reading most of the manpages of some sections) |
| 14:06.50 | SerajewelKS | personally i use the aptitude ncurses UI whenever i install something, and look through the list of packages it will install, and why |
| 14:07.06 | SerajewelKS | if any are because of a recommends line, i can make the choice there |
| 14:07.51 | Ede|Popede | did they fix the view that was broken in wheezy? crashed as soon as i wanted to open one |
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| 14:08.14 | SerajewelKS | wheezy is what, two releases ago? |
| 14:08.30 | SerajewelKS | !wheezy |
| 14:08.30 | dpkg | Wheezy is the current <oldoldstable> release, Debian 7, released on 2013-05-04: https://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 ; security support ended on 2016-04-25. Wheezy is the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie. See https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy and ask me about <install wheezy> <wheezy release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Final update <7.11>. Consider upgrading. |
| 14:08.31 | Ede|Popede | and aptitude/ncurses actually helped me a lot with things like "modern php approach on apache" |
| 14:08.33 | Ede|Popede | aye |
| 14:08.43 | Ede|Popede | <<< ommited jessie :> |
| 14:09.02 | SerajewelKS | i have no idea what view you are talking about, and it's been two releases. i'd say the standard "tias" is the best way for me to answer. |
| 14:09.13 | Ede|Popede | and was surprised i must say for how long time i still got security updates |
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| 14:12.15 | Ede|Popede | one of the items in the Views menu. dependencies view or what it was. learnt to live without frontend, since at install time stretch didn't give me aptitude, so why not :) |
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| 14:30.58 | serard | Hi |
| 14:31.24 | serard | I have an output which contains 3 head lines and 1 foot line. I want the n'th line of the output. How can I do that ? |
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| 14:32.27 | xand | head -x | tail -y |
| 14:32.34 | xand | head -x | tail -1 |
| 14:34.28 | jelly | that's x-th line not the n-th line |
| 14:34.33 | jelly | hides |
| 14:35.06 | jelly | for the nth line you obviously need to use -n option |
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| 14:36.07 | jelly | ... | head -n n | tail -n 1 |
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| 14:36.45 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/011 -- How can I print the n'th line of a file? |
| 14:38.15 | jelly | who in their right mind would first grab the tail then the head |
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| 14:40.06 | jelly | greycat: love that bash(4) has a slurping function |
| 14:40.43 | jelly | er, slurp and splitting function |
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| 15:06.10 | jken | Hello, I am have an issue where often the i915 drivers on my system fail on boot, last line logged to syslog is that it is switching from EFI VGA fb to inteldrmfb. I am trying to recover from this situation using watchdog (hardware). However, it looks like the inteldrmfb switch often happens before the watchdog module is loaded, they happen very close to each other in the boot. is there a way to force one to load before the other? |
| 15:06.56 | petn-randall | jken: Fails in what sense? |
| 15:07.21 | jken | petn-randall, black screen, does not respond to input, completely dead. |
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| 15:08.09 | petn-randall | jken: Can you still log in via SSH? |
| 15:08.40 | jken | Have not tried that, however other systemd units such as our metric reporting, etc, are inaccessible. |
| 15:09.03 | jken | I will enable sshd and check, but its incredibly difficult to reproduce. Seems to happen <1% of boots on my hardware. |
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| 15:10.20 | jken | Seems to happen early enough in the boot that I doubt they are connecting to the network though, (wifi devices) |
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| 15:12.21 | petn-randall | jken: It might be that it fails on the next steps, but that never gets logged. |
| 15:12.31 | petn-randall | jken: What kind of HW is that, on which OS? |
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| 15:12.58 | jken | Maybe, no way to tell, nothing relevant in journalctl/syslog on subsequent boots. |
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| 15:13.11 | jken | Its debian stretch, with kernel 4.18.0 from stretch-backports |
| 15:13.24 | jken | Hardware is an intel compute stick STK1A32SC |
| 15:14.08 | jken | I am using the watchdog package, rather than systemd's wd_keepalive, however the behaviour is the same with each. |
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| 15:18.28 | Brigo | jken, if systemd boots you can try to enable Early Debug Shell service |
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| 15:19.13 | jken | Brigo, I didn't know that existed, but looks helpful, will enable it now |
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| 15:19.32 | Brigo | jken, nice. |
| 15:20.08 | Brigo | i use this link. Very helpfull when out of ideas: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ |
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| 15:20.28 | jken | I am unable to switch tty's when the failure occurs, so debug-shell may not help me. |
| 15:23.15 | Brigo | jken, you have to activate it so it run in every boot still you can reproduce the problem. |
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| 15:23.38 | jken | I understand, I am just saying that when the failure occurs I am unable to switch ttys |
| 15:23.39 | Brigo | it is a security hole. |
| 15:24.31 | Brigo | jken, i think you don't need it. It will just run a command line (that's the security hole) the problem (if the system is working) is you can't see the screen. |
| 15:25.26 | jken | oh okay, I misread the documentation then. I have 12 of these devices rebooting every minute via cron right now. I will enable debug-shell and see what happens. |
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| 15:27.17 | jken | nope, looks like it does run on tty9. |
| 15:28.49 | Brigo | jken, there is some more ideas in that link. |
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| 16:47.38 | DammitJim | I have a debian server with a local user dammitjim, but I have joined the server to a domain where there is also a user called dammitjim |
| 16:47.50 | DammitJim | do you guys know if there are issues with that? |
| 16:49.35 | jelly | depends on the precise way the domain joining and NSS are configured |
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| 16:50.00 | DammitJim | yikes.... I knew this wasn't a simple question |
| 16:50.17 | jelly | DammitJim: with sss, my user "jelly" gets uids and gids from local files, but gains group membership from AD as well |
| 16:50.19 | DammitJim | meaning a simple answer |
| 16:50.24 | jelly | and both passwords work |
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| 16:50.43 | DammitJim | OMG, I need to move to sss!!! I've been using just samba with winbind and kerberos |
| 16:50.49 | DammitJim | *sigh* |
| 16:50.54 | jelly | this is actually nice, but we don't really know _why_ it works this way :-) |
| 16:51.02 | DammitJim | LOL |
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| 16:51.33 | apollo13 | sss + realm join is lovely |
| 16:51.40 | jelly | realmd is nice yes |
| 16:51.44 | apollo13 | samba is annoying |
| 16:52.03 | jelly | even if we gave up on sssd-ad and moved to sssd-ldap |
| 16:52.29 | apollo13 | hehe |
| 16:52.39 | jelly | sssd in jessie and stretch is somewhat unreliable with ad backend |
| 16:52.45 | apollo13 | well I am mainly on IPA and for the AD servers I have no idea what realm join did |
| 16:52.49 | apollo13 | ah okay, centos here |
| 16:52.58 | apollo13 | and I'd say there it works as intended |
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| 16:53.24 | jelly | centos has the same versions of sssd as rhel and it's their product so they make sure things work well |
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| 16:53.51 | apollo13 | obviously |
| 16:53.56 | jelly | debian basically has some random version snapshot from the time debian release froze |
| 16:54.02 | apollo13 | yeah |
| 16:54.49 | DammitJim | yikes |
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| 16:55.07 | jelly | figuring out _why_ sssd randomly stops getting correct groups for some users after a while was not in the cards |
| 16:55.25 | DammitJim | samba is doing the same thing in my case |
| 16:55.28 | DammitJim | that's why I'm wondering |
| 16:56.35 | jelly | sssd-ldap is reasonably stable, but has some drawbacks. To make things less slow, we disabled recursive group lookups, so "getent group foo" does not work. Each user gets their groups correctly tho. |
| 16:57.03 | DammitJim | that's alright... I'm sure running lookups like that are not a common thing |
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| 16:57.20 | jelly | with sssd-ad, "id -a someuser" sometimes took 15+ seconds |
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| 16:57.52 | jelly | (the first time. sssd does some cachine) |
| 16:57.57 | jelly | caching* |
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| 17:29.13 | jhutchins_wk | lsssd has issues with the cache getting "stuck". |
| 17:29.40 | jhutchins_wk | We routinely have to go into a server and manually clear it. |
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| 18:11.08 | jhutchins_wk | A typo. sssd. |
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| 18:57.19 | tomahawk | if you use local host it might point to your dns servers for -- dns-search |
| 18:57.44 | tomahawk | actually localhost in /etc/resolv.conf i think for "missing dns" that might work with 127.0.0.1 |
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| 19:26.27 | BoggGod | hey, I'm pretty new to debian. I'm trying to enable the option of downloading packages from testing and maintaining those with updates from testing but wihtout any interference to packages from the stable branch |
| 19:26.38 | greycat | BoggGod: Bad! Do not! |
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| 19:26.47 | greycat | !don't break debian |
| 19:26.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 19:27.45 | rlange | My email address gets very little spam in general, but recently I started getting a tonne of spam coming in from the neomutt debian bug tracker. Does debian do any spam filtering before forwarding those things? |
| 19:28.06 | rlange | Or is there some project-specific setting. I find it weird that I only get spam coming in from neomutt |
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| 19:28.49 | rlange | given that i'm subscribed to a few dozen trackers |
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| 19:35.43 | BoggGod | greycat: oof, I can't find g++7 or higher on the backports. Am I missing something? the latest g++/gcc on debian stable is pretty outdated. Which would mean the cleanest way to use more modern version of gcc/g++ is to run it in a jail |
| 19:36.08 | greycat | !stable |
| 19:36.08 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or version-bumped, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Stretch (9.x); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 19:36.30 | greycat | This is one of those things that I will never understand, isn't it. |
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| 19:37.26 | greycat | Is it something like, "I am poor so I need to mine for cryptocoins so I need this bleeding edge gcc to build this crypto mining thing to run on my video card so how do I do that, oh and also I want to run a stable OS with my bleeding edge compiler and video card eater." |
| 19:38.04 | greycat | In any case, it makes no sense to mix a stable release with a bleeding edge devkit. |
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| 19:38.11 | BCMM | BoggGod: debian stable *is* outdated. that's the idea. |
| 19:38.29 | BoggGod | more like I'm a shitty c++ programmer who got used to using g++7 |
| 19:38.58 | BCMM | BoggGod: basically, if stability is less important to you than always having the latest software, stable is not the right distro for you |
| 19:39.12 | BoggGod | well, iirc the latest on stable still has colour support for debug info, so maybe I can make do with that. |
| 19:39.23 | noln | stable host + fedora chroot is a powerful combo |
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| 19:40.04 | BoggGod | stability is way more important, I just expected a biiit more updated packages on it. |
| 19:40.12 | BoggGod | thanks for the help guys |
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| 19:41.57 | ballin | I installed a GTX 1050 gpu and now my lightDM fails to start. I was on Intel integrated graphics. It tries 2-3 times then gives up. GRUB can display graphics just fine. Can boot into normal or recovery mode terminals. Debian 9. I looked around online and can't find a solution. https://pastebin.com/hxXcaDHT |
| 19:42.29 | ballin | Oh, and plugging into the integrated GPU still boots to my graphical desktop just fine, even with the 1050 in there. |
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| 19:46.25 | maxdawid | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 19:48.42 | maxdawid | and do you disable integrated gpu in bios ? |
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| 19:54.00 | greycat | Gaah, these people on the mailing list. I don't even. What. |
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| 19:55.47 | greycat | I'm not going to REMOVE google-chrome just so I can demonstrate to them. Screw it. They can suffer in ignorance forever. |
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| 19:55.53 | ballin | ls -a not seeing an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ . should I do this? https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg#What_if_I_do_not_have_a_xorg_config_file.3F |
| 19:56.19 | greycat | It is normal and expected NOT to have an xorg.conf file. |
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| 19:59.55 | maxdawid | yep, I only want to see if you didn't create by yourself :) |
| 20:00.33 | maxdawid | try to disable igpu |
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| 20:00.37 | maxdawid | from bios |
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| 20:05.48 | RoyK | ballin: I guess the x developers read https://xkcd.com/963/ and got the point ;) |
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| 20:06.29 | maxdawid | hehe :) |
| 20:06.29 | ballin | reminded of that comic |
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| 20:09.01 | ballin | dell BIOS options are Auto, Integrated, NVIDIA. It says non-auto options will still enable the integrated graphics. I'm on NVIDIA now and I just tried it with Auto. same situation with both. Should I go through the boot logs? I see something about nouveau but it disappears too quickly. |
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| 20:10.10 | maxdawid | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 20:10.22 | ballin | at this point I'm not particularly attached to lightDM either. I run xfce |
| 20:11.37 | ryouma | next time i want a bug fixed, and they are not fixing it, and it's serious such as accessibility, i will consider contacting the author of xkcd |
| 20:11.56 | ryouma | last resort |
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| 20:16.39 | ballin | Xorg.0.log only mentions intel. there's also a xorg.1.log. in xorg.0.log it ends with no devices detected. |
| 20:17.56 | ballin | Sorry, "No devices detected." and "no screens found(EE)" |
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| 20:24.06 | discovered | Which version of debian testing you recommend to install? |
| 20:24.11 | greycat | None. |
| 20:24.19 | maxdawid | :D |
| 20:25.05 | discovered | oo |
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| 20:25.22 | discovered | greycat, why? |
| 20:25.49 | greycat | Because most people choose Debian because they want a stable, working system. |
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| 20:27.43 | discovered | Testing doesn't work? |
| 20:27.54 | maxdawid | work |
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| 20:28.12 | timeless | ryouma: the xkcd author and certain other people on twitter are quite effective... |
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| 20:29.03 | greycat | !testing |
| 20:29.03 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 20:30.43 | discovered | I am a desktop user though! |
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| 20:31.42 | maxdawid | are you new in linux ? if yes go to stable ;) |
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| 20:32.41 | discovered | Not new to Linux but neither expert in command line :( |
| 20:32.57 | ryouma | when i was new, i used testing. now that i am no longer new to linux, i use stable |
| 20:33.14 | discovered | wanted to have a bit more updated apps :) |
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| 20:33.35 | discovered | ryouma, You use debian for desktop? |
| 20:33.36 | rlange | discovered: You run <<apt-get distupgrade>> and blinding choose 'y' to allow it to do whatever. It removes your desktop environment. Do you know how to fix this situation? |
| 20:33.42 | rlange | If not, testing isn't for you. |
| 20:33.57 | rlange | If yes, then maybe testing is for you. |
| 20:34.03 | ryouma | i use stable for desktop. yeah, debian is server-oriented to a fault. perhaps that will improve. |
| 20:34.32 | greycat | What do you mean by "improve"? |
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| 20:34.44 | ryouma | rlange: i like your use case technique |
| 20:34.53 | rlange | I also use stable for my desktop, with selected backports (and a few of my own making) |
| 20:34.54 | ryouma | idk if i know |
| 20:35.01 | discovered | rlange, That seems complicated task for me :( |
| 20:35.07 | discovered | so testing is not for me |
| 20:35.08 | ryouma | i'fd jud try to reinstall stuff and stuff |
| 20:35.31 | rlange | I mean, it's actually pretty simple to fix, but if you don't know how, then you're not quite ready for testing. |
| 20:35.36 | greycat | Hint: it was a trick question. The regulars in this channel don't *use* a Desktop Environment. ;-) |
| 20:35.43 | ryouma | discovered: use stable and use backports and put up with anything that is too old |
| 20:36.03 | ryouma | in the worst case install from upstream or brave the wilds of create your own backport |
| 20:36.10 | rlange | It's also a trick question, b/c on testing or unstable, you never just type 'y' without thoroughly perusing the changes apt is going to make. |
| 20:36.16 | timeless | wonders if anyone uses snaps on debian-stable |
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| 20:36.25 | ryouma | indeed |
| 20:36.27 | timeless | would probably try that before unstable assuming it was an option |
| 20:37.22 | ryouma | dunno what options there are like that |
| 20:37.31 | ryouma | and whether they are signed, popular, etc. |
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| 20:38.27 | timeless | per https://docs.snapcraft.io/installing-snap-on-debian/6742 snap is available in stretch, so i guess i'd be willing to try it |
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| 20:52.29 | valerius | Madeo allah-babah ;) |
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| 21:34.13 | ghormoon | hi, what's now the correct way to make mdadm boot even when degraded? tried md-mod.start_dirty_degraded=1 on kernel line, but didn't boot |
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| 21:34.32 | ghormoon | goes to emergency target |
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| 21:37.02 | Bacteria | o/ |
| 21:37.11 | Bacteria | is x11 still part of debian? |
| 21:37.21 | Bacteria | or getting removed |
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| 21:37.36 | Wally | It's still part of debian for now I think |
| 21:37.44 | GNU\colossus | X11 is a (set of) protocols. Xorg provides an implementation, which is included in Debian |
| 21:37.52 | GNU\colossus | and won't be removed in the forseeable future |
| 21:37.59 | Bacteria | ok |
| 21:38.14 | Bacteria | coz lots of opengl stuff relies on it |
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| 21:38.28 | Wally | wayland is the next thing coming in, if anyone can compile it. |
| 21:38.54 | greycat | X11 isn't going away any time soon. |
| 21:39.02 | Wally | I don't doubt that one second heh |
| 21:39.04 | Bacteria | y would it go |
| 21:39.13 | Bacteria | stop chaning stuff |
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| 21:39.23 | Bacteria | shud of left init.d alone |
| 21:39.24 | Wally | Bacteria nou |
| 21:39.27 | Wally | Oh here we go |
| 21:39.37 | Wally | it's our fault that init.d is gone and systemd is in. |
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| 21:39.53 | Bacteria | excuseme? |
| 21:40.11 | Bacteria | jk |
| 21:40.14 | Bacteria | lol |
| 21:40.29 | Wally | m8, you're scaring the regulars away |
| 21:40.37 | greycat | OK, the trolling show ends now. |
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| 21:41.37 | Wally | greycat no founders here? :| |
| 21:41.39 | Bacteria | i ran the updater yesterday since getting 9 |
| 21:41.45 | Wally | Ah wait, there we go |
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| 21:41.59 | Bacteria | im impressed by the new changes |
| 21:42.16 | Wally | greycat i'm able to read the access list heh. Ganneff is the founder I would guess |
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| 21:42.33 | Bacteria | they finaly fixed the wake up mode |
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| 23:02.11 | jhutchins | !lvm |
| 23:02.11 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 23:03.49 | jhutchins | karlpinc: The various "display" commands will give you that info, although I can't tell you exactly how to find what you need. |
| 23:05.10 | jhutchins | That's one of the problems with lvm, it encourages unnecessary complexity. |
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