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| 19:28.00 | nodiscc | hi everyone, I am trying to devise a proper fix for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749019 and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=881811 (which stem from the same bug in the debian package) |
| 19:28.01 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/749019 in vnstati (open, unreproducible, moreinfo): «vnstati: vnstat Fails to create backup database .eth0»; severity: important; opened: 2014-05-23; last modified: 2018-01-23. |
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| 19:29.10 | nodiscc | in short the recommended way to track a neworkin interface in vnstat is to run sudo vnstat -u -i ethX, which will create a database file in /var/lib/vnstat/, owned by root:root mode 0644 |
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| 19:29.55 | nodiscc | but the vnstat.service systemd unit file runs vnstatd as the 'vnstat' user. hence vnstatd cannot write to that database |
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| 19:31.13 | nodiscc | so would setting SGID bit on /var/lib/vnstat/ during package installation be an acceptable fix? |
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| 19:48.54 | ironic_aneurysm | nodiscc: vnstat.conf man page mentions some options to change group and or db settings. I'm not deep diving here, but that might be cleaner |
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| 19:51.33 | ironic_aneurysm | other than that, my weaksauce googling says to just chown -R vnstat: /var/lib/vnstat after creating the interface file. |
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| 19:53.17 | nodiscc | ironic_aneurysm: thanks, yes chown -R does work |
| 19:53.49 | nodiscc | but I was looking for a fix that would set correct permissions without manual intervention |
| 19:54.08 | ironic_aneurysm | cool - it looks like the only reason that's getting set to root is because it's being created as root |
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| 19:56.11 | nodiscc | sudo -u vnstat -u -i ethX sets the correct user/group for me. But it's not documented this way. Maybe we just need a manpage tweak |
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| 19:57.54 | ironic_aneurysm | yeah, 'cause I don't really think it's misbehaving per se (my first comment about vnstat.conf) |
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| 19:59.24 | nodiscc | yeah if instead of setting the user in the systemd unit file, we had DaemonUser "vnstat" DaemonGroup "vnstat" in vnstat.conf, thet it would require a restart of the service to fix the perms also |
| 19:59.49 | nodiscc | (UpdateFileOwner 1 is already set to 1) |
| 19:59.51 | _I_Died_Once | question about running debian on windows 10 pro from its app store.... is that something i can ask about here? |
| 20:00.00 | ironic_aneurysm | that's kind of what I was starting to look at as well |
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| 20:00.27 | ironic_aneurysm | I'm gussing that the daemon knows how to drop privs, so you could set --u and --g as a command line argument in the unit file |
| 20:00.56 | _I_Died_Once | wondering if i can do and host services from there as i would under debian under any other setting |
| 20:01.09 | nodiscc | and drop User=vnstat from /lib/systemd/system/vnstat.service? |
| 20:01.11 | _I_Died_Once | like SSH in to it, host an FTP.. |
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| 20:02.16 | nodiscc | _I_Died_Once: have you tried? I imagine at least SSH would work |
| 20:04.08 | de-facto | Does anyone here know how i get my gpg private key? |
| 20:05.24 | nodiscc | de-facto: gpg --armor --export-secret-keys me@example.com |
| 20:05.33 | _I_Died_Once | about to try... was curious if i was wasting my time |
| 20:06.24 | de-facto | nodiscc, all i get from gpg are errors like "error receiving key from agent: Permission denied - skipped" and "gpg: WARNING: nothing exported" |
| 20:06.46 | de-facto | for trying to export my own key |
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| 20:07.21 | nodiscc | de-facto: do you see you key with gpg --list-secret-keys? |
| 20:07.27 | de-facto | yes |
| 20:07.55 | de-facto | thats the keyid i am trying to export |
| 20:08.06 | nodiscc | do you have gpg-agent running? |
| 20:08.15 | de-facto | i dont know |
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| 20:08.26 | nodiscc | ps aux | grep gpg-agent |
| 20:09.02 | de-facto | yes its running "gpg-agent --homedir /home/git/.gnupg --use-standard-socket --daemon" |
| 20:09.17 | de-facto | im in a "sudo su - git" session |
| 20:09.52 | nodiscc | and gpg-agent is running as which user? (first column of ps aux) |
| 20:09.53 | de-facto | trying to get gpg to generate and give me my private key in a scripted way |
| 20:10.01 | de-facto | git |
| 20:10.07 | de-facto | it runs as git user |
| 20:10.10 | nodiscc | k |
| 20:10.13 | ironic_aneurysm | nodiscc: *shrug* setting the user in the unit file didn't really change life. I'm starting to think your sgid dir is worth looking at :P |
| 20:10.58 | ironic_aneurysm | other distros seem to say "fix your perms" or "make sure the vnstat user can write to /var/lib/vnstat |
| 20:11.37 | nodiscc | ironic_aneurysm: oh thanks for trying, yeah sgid would take care of the "make sure the vnstat user can write" part |
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| 20:12.19 | nodiscc | I don't think anything there needs root ownership. But I don't know if Debian policy is ok with packages installing sgid dirs |
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| 20:15.40 | de-facto | nodiscc, can I somehow get my key from a file instead? |
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| 20:16.19 | de-facto | weird thing is it does not even tell me where it is when i generate it |
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| 20:17.17 | nodiscc | de-facto: I have files in ~/.gnupg/private-keys-v1.d/ which match the IDs of my keys. but I don't know how to export them in amored/other format |
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| 20:18.51 | de-facto | nodiscc, yes i have two .key files in there but none of them match my keyid reported by "gpg --list-secret-keys" |
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| 20:20.06 | de-facto | actually thats the keys gpg agent claims to not have permission receive |
| 20:20.46 | de-facto | they are owned by "git" user and it has rw access to them |
| 20:20.47 | nodiscc | those are the secret keys of the git user on a git server right? can you tell what you're trying to do with them maybe we can find another way |
| 20:21.18 | nodiscc | ironic_aneurysm: I will reply to the mentioned bugs, maybe the maintainer takes interest |
| 20:21.21 | de-facto | i am trying to generate a secret key for signing binaries with drone ci/cd |
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| 20:22.14 | Surfer2011_ | hello, how can i delete a single file that is shown in ls but cannot be deleted (rm) even not as root |
| 20:22.15 | de-facto | nodiscc, with this here: http://plugins.drone.io/drone-plugins/drone-gpgsign/ |
| 20:22.38 | de-facto | it expects secret keys in base64 and the associated passphrase |
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| 20:25.49 | de-facto | nodiscc, I am trying to generate the secret key with a script (run inside a ssh session where i changed to git user with "sudo su - git") : https://paste.debian.net/hidden/32b87caa/ |
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| 20:27.17 | de-facto | the script is run from /home/git |
| 20:28.45 | nodiscc | de-facto: i see, does the script run without errors until the end? gpg --list-secret-keys works there? |
| 20:28.51 | EdePopede | Surfer2011_: any info why it can't? |
| 20:28.57 | de-facto | nodiscc, yes |
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| 20:29.52 | Surfer2011_ | EdePopede: translated it basically say: "removing file XYZ not possible: fole or folder not found" |
| 20:30.28 | exifbono | hello all. I got a 3 1TB disks on a computer and I just installed a new debian, with the intent of "merging" 2 of them using LVM into a single vg-group. Could you tell me by my lsblk if I did it alright? http://paste.debian.net/1066329/ |
| 20:30.49 | EdePopede | Surfer2011_: did you tab the filename? you may have a typo. spaces or similar in the filename? if all is no, maybe file attributes => `lsattr $filename` |
| 20:31.12 | Surfer2011_ | yes filename was tab ... |
| 20:32.13 | nodiscc | de-facto: at the end of the script I would try to 1. get the keyid (keyid=$(gpg --list-secret-keys | sed '4q;d') works for me) 2. export the key gpg --export-secret-keys $keyid |
| 20:32.16 | Surfer2011_ | lsattr fileNAME --> argument is not correct(?) Error reading the flags |
| 20:32.49 | nodiscc | de-facto: I don't know if that would work but to me it looks like your gpg exporet command cannot connect to the agent in some way |
| 20:32.54 | de-facto | nodiscc, the current output of the script is: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/8148224e/ |
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| 20:33.19 | pagetelegram | Is there any text editor that has option to print line numbers as part of the hard/soft output? Contenders to the Windows Notepad++ do not have this capability. |
| 20:33.29 | nodiscc | yes so I'd find a way to extract line 15 of your paste and pass it to gpg --export-secret-keys |
| 20:34.34 | EdePopede | Surfer2011_: seems you don't pass the correct filename (your shell may intervene), since 2 commands now don't get it. some odd characters i presume |
| 20:35.20 | Surfer2011_ | 20151231_Silveste_Lulu_Damian_027.jpg |
| 20:35.20 | Surfer2011_ | is the filename |
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| 20:36.07 | EdePopede | Surfer2011_: if you copy the filename now into the shell to do a `stat` or `ls`, does it work? |
| 20:37.08 | Surfer2011_ | https://pastebin.com/qbj3NU2Y |
| 20:38.19 | EdePopede | so stat gets it, nut not lsattr or rm. hm. |
| 20:39.45 | ironic_aneurysm | Surfer2011_: Is this a local filesystem? |
| 20:40.16 | Surfer2011_ | usb disk with ntfs |
| 20:40.54 | de-facto | nodiscc, yes it seems the agent is broken for some reason: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/82800c95/ |
| 20:41.22 | ironic_aneurysm | Surfer2011_: is the filesystem showing up as rw in mount? |
| 20:41.47 | Surfer2011_ | well i removed all of the files in this folder except this one |
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| 20:42.25 | Surfer2011_ | i can r & w on this drive no problem also delete |
| 20:42.25 | ironic_aneurysm | Surfer2011_: have you tried unmounting and remounting? |
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| 20:42.33 | nodiscc | de-facto: for what it's worth my gpg-agent is started by my desktop environment as /usr/bin/gpg-agent --supervised. But for a headless machine I don't really know |
| 20:42.56 | Surfer2011_ | yes tried un-/reounting |
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| 20:43.45 | forgon | What does FTBFS mean? |
| 20:43.45 | de-facto | nodiscc, yes that might be related, its a headless server where i ssh into as another user, then "sudo su" to become root, then "sudo su - git" to drop into the "git" account: gpg refused to work interactively because of some tty permissions, so i started to try scripting it |
| 20:44.18 | tarzeau | forgon: fails to build from source |
| 20:44.41 | tarzeau | dict is a great command line tool, which also knows of FTBFS |
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| 20:46.30 | nodiscc | de-facto: maybe it's because the environment set by 'su -' ? try with sudo -i git |
| 20:46.55 | nodiscc | di rectly from you base user |
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| 20:48.08 | de-facto | nodiscc, no fun yet :/ |
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| 20:49.39 | de-facto | even adding --batch --no-tty everywhere does not have any effect |
| 20:50.03 | Surfer2011_ | ironic_aneurysm: no difference once remounted |
| 20:50.14 | ironic_aneurysm | hmm. |
| 20:51.10 | ironic_aneurysm | welp, I don't have a lot of experience with ntfs, but I'm suspecting that's something in the neighborhood... |
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| 20:54.35 | Surfer2011_ | :-( |
| 20:54.46 | nodiscc | Surfer2011_: can you show mount | grep ntfs? may have something to do with ntfs mount options |
| 20:55.53 | nodiscc | i think the easiest solution would be to delete the file from the OS that created it. but where's the fun in that |
| 20:55.56 | Surfer2011_ | no result on mount | grep ntfs |
| 20:56.29 | Surfer2011_ | it's all mounted by openmediavault |
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| 20:56.49 | nodiscc | on what directory is it mounted? just try to find it in mount output |
| 20:57.11 | Surfer2011_ | /sharedfolders/ |
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| 20:57.53 | Surfer2011_ | /dev/disk/by-label/MedienPlatte /srv/dev-disk-by-label-MedienPlatte ntfs defaults,nofail 0 2 |
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| 20:59.12 | nodiscc | ironic_aneurysm: I updated https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=881811 and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=749019, wait and see. I have a friend who's on metered Internet connection so we set up vnstat and it looks pretty cool |
| 20:59.13 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/881811 in vnstat (open): «vnstat: Wrong Permissions -i wlan0 --create»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-11-15; last modified: 2017-11-15. |
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| 21:00.37 | nodiscc | Surfer2011_: you can try playing with mount options. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+ntfs+can%27t+delete+file&ia=web returns a few hits (notably the 3rd one on github where someone had to edit ntfs mount options to delete a file) |
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| 21:00.44 | nodiscc | https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/ntfs-3g/mount.ntfs.8.en.html |
| 21:01.30 | nodiscc | I try to stay away from ntfs-3g because of general slowness and things like this. but sometimes you have to :) |
| 21:01.55 | Surfer2011_ | i'm not sure how OMV will like it if i change the mounts in fstab that had been created by omv ?! .... :$ |
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| 21:03.15 | nodiscc | Surfer2011_: there's always #openmedivault channel or http://forum.openmediavault.org/ for omv specific questions |
| 21:03.42 | Surfer2011_ | ok thanks i will try this also :-) thanks for your help so far |
| 21:03.58 | nodiscc | time to destroy your filesystem by mistake and test your backups! |
| 21:05.12 | Surfer2011_ | ^^ well that's the point ... i'm cleaning my filesystems and reorganizing to hae a good backup system at the end |
| 21:05.24 | Surfer2011_ | but not there yet ... so i hope i will get there soon |
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| 21:06.53 | ironic_aneurysm | Surfer2011_: re: openmediavault - that was also part of why I was asking if it was a local filesystem |
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| 21:07.01 | ironic_aneurysm | omv != debian |
| 21:07.19 | Surfer2011_ | ok |
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| 21:11.41 | de-facto | Is anyone here using gpg or is it broken at the moment? |
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| 21:13.56 | ironic_aneurysm | I think it's safe to say that if gpg was broken, there'd be a bit of a stir. |
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| 21:14.55 | JackFrost | Considering all DDs use gpg to sign uploaded packages? |
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| 21:17.51 | jmcnaught | de-facto: did you check that the git user's home directory is owned by them, and has write permission? |
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| 21:18.23 | de-facto | jmcnaught, yes of course |
| 21:19.15 | exifbono | A broken gpg would be a great theme for a dystopian movie |
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| 21:20.27 | de-facto | is there any known way to convince gpg-agent to permit me access to my own private key? |
| 21:21.00 | zleap | can seahorse help, (passwords and keys on the menu) >? |
| 21:21.03 | EdePopede | Surfer2011_: since you want to delete the file anyway, did you try to write into it? even as simple as `printf "" > $file` |
| 21:21.21 | de-facto | zleap, nope its a headless server without any Xorg stuff |
| 21:21.29 | de-facto | very minimal install |
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| 21:24.33 | Surfer2011_ | EdePopede: i can write in it |
| 21:24.51 | Surfer2011_ | i wrote "test" in it and opened it with the nano editor and it shows test |
| 21:24.58 | Surfer2011_ | but still not deletable |
| 21:25.38 | zleap | de-facto: ah right, i was going to say as the gui would struggle in 512mb ram |
| 21:26.12 | de-facto | its a 4GB VPS |
| 21:26.23 | de-facto | but i dont want any gui on it |
| 21:26.39 | zleap | de-facto: ah sorry, my response was probably inthe wrong channel, i got things mixed up |
| 21:27.17 | zleap | you're talking about ssh stuff, my response was re ubuntu on a beaglebone (other debian server) |
| 21:27.23 | de-facto | Surfer2011_, maybe something like "sudo chattr -i /path/to/file" can unlock it? |
| 21:29.21 | Surfer2011_ | not possible |
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| 21:29.39 | EdePopede | Surfer2011_: i'd bet on flag similar to those known to chattr (man mentiond `i`). or ntfs streams. you remember, those things which were kindly introduced to undermine security. no idea how linux userland tools handle these. may be they can't delete files on ntfs if there are streams associated with the file. |
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| 21:30.49 | nodiscc | https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/ntfs-3g/mount.ntfs.8.en.html#Alternate_Data_Streams_(ADS) |
| 21:30.58 | nodiscc | >You can list all the named data streams a file has by getting the "ntfs.streams.list" extended attribute. |
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| 21:45.55 | de-facto | Even when i "find .gnupg -type f -exec chmod 777 {} \;" the agent says "error receiving key from agent: Permission denied - skipped" |
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| 21:49.15 | de-facto | so its not perms on fs: where can i edit the "Permission" of my own keys for gpg-agent? |
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| 21:58.43 | pagetelegram | what package is 'pip' install command in? |
| 21:59.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pagetelegram about apt-file |
| 22:00.00 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pagetelegram about search |
| 22:00.07 | abrotman | that being said, I'd guess the python-pip package |
| 22:00.45 | pagetelegram | thx |
| 22:01.33 | rant | yeah, you'll probably feel less thankful after using pip :P |
| 22:01.54 | pagetelegram | just updating youtube-dl "the easy way..." |
| 22:02.25 | rant | uh huh.. so you think :P |
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| 22:02.49 | pagetelegram | mpsyt is working for listing search results, only issue with it is that youtube-dl is out of date |
| 22:02.57 | rant | pip isnt all clean and warm and fuzzy like apt |
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| 22:04.32 | SlidingHorn | hates pip...in python and in Paladins |
| 22:04.33 | pagetelegram | thanks for the warning. I do not want to screw up this machine. I'll curl it. |
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| 22:07.10 | de-facto | Any idea why GPG would NOT grant me permissions to my OWN private key? Generating script with output on headless Debian Stretch amd64 ssh login for another user then "su - git": https://paste.debian.net/hidden/35f7d3c6/ |
| 22:07.18 | EdePopede | "the easy way..."? with pip? er, that's *one* file (and the sig). static download link, http redirect to the actual package, version number in the url wish they all would do it that userfriendly |
| 22:08.04 | rant | yeah pip would quite literally reinvent the wheel to do it |
| 22:08.08 | abrotman | pagetelegram: you could try uupdate |
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| 22:08.22 | pagetelegram | update nill for that package |
| 22:08.29 | pagetelegram | I got it directly |
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| 22:10.26 | pagetelegram | mpsyt still puking the guts out of youtube-dl....all error messages have to do with youtube-dl not mpsyt |
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| 22:13.17 | rant | considers trying the pip3 method for mps-youtube just to see |
| 22:13.58 | rant | fires up a VM :P |
| 22:14.52 | pagetelegram | On the edge of my seat! |
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| 22:15.26 | rant | I just made a new stretch base vm yesterday to answer some questions for someone.. might as well let it feel the pain |
| 22:16.57 | rant | was gonna delete it anyhow. |
| 22:17.36 | rant | pagetelegram: fwiw you'd have had to install python3-pip not python-pip anyhow |
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| 22:21.51 | rant | uh ok, well those packages didnt seem to compile anything or make a mess |
| 22:22.29 | rant | though ~/.local/bin isnt a default PATH for debian |
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| 22:24.18 | rant | I suppose you can just do the pip3 install --user mps-youtube; pip3 install --user youtube-dl and then just su to root and mv the contents of ~/.local/bin to /usr/local/bin |
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| 22:24.51 | rant | idk that I'd trust pip running as root :P |
| 22:25.12 | rant | or just modify your path |
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| 22:33.08 | rant | pagetelegram: if you're not using X you could install mplayer and "set player mplayer" "set show_video true" "set playerargs -vo fb -zoom -fs" and possibly add an -xy 1280 -aspect 16:9 or whatever your framebuffer width and ratio is |
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| 22:37.29 | phazon | pagetelegram: the framebuffer device may be different depending on the video hardware; might wanna confirm '-vo fb' works before you 'set' that |
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| 22:38.59 | rant | well iirc from the other night he was on a pi.. and those usually use fb.. but vdpau might also be appropriate |
| 22:39.36 | phazon | '-really-quiet' is also particularly helpful to stop it from spamming the console with noise |
| 22:39.37 | rant | though for me the pip3 install --user mps-youtube was not playing most videos.. I had to use the pip3 install --user -U git+https://github.com/mps-youtube/mps-youtube.git to get the latest dev version |
| 22:40.25 | rant | I was able to play Pittsburg Dad videos with the regular one, but not any "Official Video" music videos which are working fine with the dev version |
| 22:43.34 | rant | you may also want to set max_res 720 or lower |
| 22:43.39 | rant | if on a pi |
| 22:44.27 | rant | they claim to do 1080p but that doesnt necesarily make it a good idea.. heh |
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| 22:44.53 | rant | to be streaming YT at 1080p |
| 22:45.10 | ironic_aneurysm | rant: but I *like* frame skipping |
| 22:45.41 | rant | yes well you'd have to add that to your playerargs then.. :P |
| 22:46.04 | rant | mplayer can tolerate such things if you tell it in advanc |
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| 22:48.08 | rant | mps-youtube is a really nice program its just unfortunate the YT stuff isnt updated well in Debian repos |
| 22:48.25 | rant | its looking like it won't be in buster |
| 22:48.36 | rant | ,v mps-youtube |
| 22:48.37 | judd | Package: mps-youtube on amd64 -- jessie: 0.01.46-3; sid: 0.2.7.1-2; stretch: 0.2.7.1-2 |
| 22:48.46 | rant | ,v youtube-dl |
| 22:48.47 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 2017.05.18.1-1~bpo8+2; stretch: 2017.05.18.1-1; stretch-backports: 2019.01.17-1~bpo9+1; buster: 2019.01.17-1; sid: 2019.01.17-1; buster-multimedia: 2019.01.24-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 2019.01.27-dmo1 |
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| 22:50.36 | JackFrost | youtube-dl has releases so often. What is 'buster-multimedia', btw? |
| 22:50.50 | rant | JackFrost: pretend you didn't see that :P |
| 22:51.03 | rant | !deb-multimedia |
| 22:51.03 | dpkg | We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm stretch>, <dmm jessie>. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>. |
| 22:51.12 | JackFrost | Wondered, OK. |
| 22:51.58 | rant | it was popular many years ago, when we had a lot of things mp3, dvdcss, etc related that were not in debian.. but these days it just pulls in far too many deps that will break a ton of stuff |
| 22:52.41 | rant | its almost as bad as using an ubuntu ppa :P |
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| 22:55.06 | BCMM | rant: when was that? didn't there used to be non-us for that stuff? |
| 22:55.28 | abrotman | non-us was for crypto things |
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| 22:56.54 | BCMM | oh right, i had dvdcss muddled up with that (both "illegal" software, not just IP stuff) |
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| 22:59.05 | zleap | abrotman: yeah you can't export some encryption from the US iirc |
| 22:59.19 | BCMM | they sorta fixed that |
| 22:59.55 | zleap | ah ok |
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| 23:01.06 | abrotman | zleap: laws changed long ago |
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| 23:01.34 | BCMM | it's still super vague and still nominally controlled by the federal government |
| 23:02.02 | BCMM | i'm not sure why, though. maybe it's still illegal to send it to cuba or something weird like that |
| 23:02.33 | abrotman | dpkg: crypto in main |
| 23:02.33 | dpkg | Legal advice received 31-Jul-2001 indicates that the new US export regulations on cryptographic software will allow Debian to distribute cryptographic software from the US, provided certain hoops are jumped through. http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain . Yes, this means you no longer need <non-US> sources. |
| 23:03.27 | zleap | we have gpg anyway or gnupg |
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| 23:12.44 | at0m | TIL that fedora doesn't ship ffmpeg in its repo's for similar regulations. imagine. |
| 23:12.59 | at0m | that is 2019. |
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| 23:16.09 | joepublic | fedora believes that it is enjoined by regulation from providing ffmpeg? |
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| 23:17.54 | at0m | i'm not sure, this was a discussion in #fsf ~12h ago |
| 23:19.31 | at0m | https://www.bakerlaw.com/webfiles/Litigation/2016/Brief/09-01-2016-Schwechter-Brief.pdf |
| 23:19.42 | shibboleth | did not the pgp guy print his stuff in book form and bring it with him abroad, thus putting the rules in a stalemate? |
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| 23:23.04 | joepublic | What does "putting the rules in a stalemate" mean? |
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| 23:24.34 | de-facto | nodiscc, thanks for your help, finally i figured it out, gpg needed to be supplied with a password in a secure way in order to export my private key: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c31c1ea4/ |
| 23:24.38 | at0m | since when in print, it's not code but speech? idk IANAL |
| 23:25.02 | de-facto | oh he left already |
| 23:26.38 | Azrael_- | hi |
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| 23:27.38 | Azrael_- | i've got a program installed on 2 servers and want to compare/show the file-content of all the files in the folders recursive. can you suggest me how i could do this best? |
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| 23:29.23 | ironic_aneurysm | Azrael_-: I'd end up writing a script to do that tbqh - that's more of a general unix kind of question |
| 23:29.29 | ironic_aneurysm | and depends on what language you're used to |
| 23:29.42 | ironic_aneurysm | i.e. shell / python / perl etc. |
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| 23:29.57 | rant | also depends on what specifically you mean |
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| 23:30.44 | joepublic | debian is a pretty general unix kind of thing, I'd say |
| 23:30.45 | Azrael_- | it is a php-program with ~100 php-files. i modified the files on one server but i didn't write down what i changed. now i want to update the program but first want to find out what i modified and if i need to keep the changes |
| 23:31.16 | rant | sounds like you should use a version control tool then |
| 23:31.18 | Azrael_- | i'm pretty weak regarding scripting. my best idea would be a dry run of an rsync synchronization and then see what file would be changed |
| 23:31.34 | Azrael_- | rant: it was just some debugging (afair) |
| 23:31.45 | at0m | Azrael_-: could git help somehow? |
| 23:31.52 | rant | setup a github/gitlab/etc and make two branches |
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| 23:32.18 | at0m | hmm i guess git starts from the diff's, not the comparing |
| 23:32.22 | joepublic | scripting is awesome power |
| 23:32.23 | Azrael_- | at0m: it isn't in a source control system. it is a third party script. now it is a little bit late (imo) |
| 23:32.36 | ironic_aneurysm | Azrael_-: or if you'd just made the changes after a certain amount of time from the other... use find and play with the +/-mtime flags |
| 23:32.47 | Azrael_- | joepublic: currently my biggest strength is with php/c# |
| 23:33.09 | Azrael_- | ironic_aneurysm: nice idea, will try it out. thanks |
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| 23:33.44 | over7head | i have problems with my graphic card |
| 23:33.51 | over7head | need some help please |
| 23:33.55 | rant | ,i meld |
| 23:33.56 | judd | Package meld (gnome, optional) in stretch/amd64: graphical tool to diff and merge files. Version: 3.16.4-1; Size: 484.7k; Installed: 3049k; Homepage: http://meldmerge.org; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/meld |
| 23:34.05 | rant | Azrael_-: ^ try this perhaps |
| 23:34.08 | over7head | i have installed xorg-video intel driver |
| 23:34.24 | over7head | lsmod shows module i915 |
| 23:34.28 | Azrael_- | rant: sorry, no gui installed :) |
| 23:34.45 | rant | Azrael_-: do you have a machine with a GUI? |
| 23:34.52 | joepublic | no gui but your scripting is weak? You are the courageous and the brave in action. |
| 23:35.17 | over7head | and my hardware acceleration not workin g |
| 23:35.49 | over7head | i have native resolutions but draging windows, scrolling browsrs lags a lot |
| 23:35.51 | Azrael_- | rant: yeah, but if wanted this i would just copy both file structures to my local machine and run it through beyondcompare. thought there could be an easier solution beside transfering so much data :) |
| 23:36.08 | over7head | my user is in video mode |
| 23:36.14 | over7head | what can i try ? |
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| 23:36.54 | rant | Azrael_-: there is no easier way than transferring approx 100 php files to one machine to get a source comparison between them |
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| 23:38.11 | Azrael_- | my bad: 7154 files on each installation :) but will transfer them |
| 23:38.53 | over7head | im looking for libgl1-mesa-dri package, not sure if it can help, but it has a lot of deps amd, ati... nothing for intel |
| 23:38.53 | rant | over7head: (lspci -nn;cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log)|nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 23:40.21 | over7head | rant no xorg log |
| 23:40.30 | over7head | https://termbin.com/1gow |
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| 23:40.51 | over7head | cat: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory |
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| 23:42.08 | rant | over7head: (cat /etc/debian_version;uname -r;dpkg -l libc6;apt policy)|nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 23:42.59 | rant | interesting.. intel Xeon :) |
| 23:43.21 | joepublic | I am thinking about building an intel xeon system |
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| 23:43.53 | rant | I was thinking about it today too.. but I'd have to save up to be broke.. so its not gonna happen |
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| 23:44.19 | over7head | https://termbin.com/d2os |
| 23:44.42 | joepublic | My current xeon is 10 cores, motherboard was $115, processor was $199, pretty cost effective as such things go. I just wish now I had done a 2-cpu setup. |
| 23:45.26 | rant | ah, we got a frankendebian xeon system :P |
| 23:45.28 | joepublic | sid, jessie, and stretch. nice. |
| 23:45.41 | rant | the plot thickens :D |
| 23:45.57 | joepublic | I got a system here that has those and also wheezy. your move. |
| 23:46.46 | joepublic | nouveau and drm-intel packages pinned. |
| 23:46.53 | Azrael_- | ok, worked. thanks for the feedback |
| 23:47.32 | ironic_aneurysm | Azrael_-: which did? |
| 23:47.39 | over7head | joepublic, what you mena ? |
| 23:47.43 | over7head | ,mean ? |
| 23:48.08 | Azrael_- | ironic_aneurysm: zipped up all files on both machines. transferred it to local and then compared the folders using beyondcompare |
| 23:48.11 | rant | yes they're pinned to sid versions no less |
| 23:48.15 | ironic_aneurysm | oh haha |
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| 23:48.58 | joepublic | I am mostly rambling, but your apt policy output says that your libdrm* drivers are pinned at a certain version. My brain is not firing on enough cylinders to actually calculate the result of your various sources and priorities, however. |
| 23:49.05 | over7head | i needed jessie for firmware wireless |
| 23:49.07 | rant | over7head: now would be the time where you explain what this machine is used for, and why you have multiple sources so we know how to proceed |
| 23:49.51 | over7head | other i have because i tried build lumina |
| 23:50.08 | joepublic | you can just download the firmware from packages.debian.org and install it with apt or gdebi without involving jessie in the package manager's daily affairs, if that might help |
| 23:50.23 | rant | over7head: you do not use deb lines to build, you use deb-src lines to build |
| 23:50.27 | over7head | r8188eu |
| 23:50.30 | over7head | find me |
| 23:50.48 | rant | over7head: usb adapter? |
| 23:50.55 | over7head | yes |
| 23:51.06 | rant | over7head: then give the line from lsusb |
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| 23:51.14 | over7head | firmware is only for jessie |
| 23:51.30 | rant | no, its not |
| 23:51.33 | joepublic | firmware is only for *hardware* |
| 23:51.46 | over7head | from |
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| 23:52.42 | joepublic | that's a great reason to use something that doesn't need non-free firmware packages, like an atheros adapter, for example, by the way |
| 23:52.50 | rant | look, you have two options here.. leave and take your chances elsewhere, or let us help you get this system a pure debian stable that works, and then address your other issues that caused you to do all this apt crap done properly |
| 23:53.10 | rant | good news is you didnt seem to have done too much damage |
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| 23:54.47 | jim | hi, if I install lvm2, does it arrange for /etc/init.d/lvm2 to be run at boot? |
| 23:54.51 | rant | first thing I'd do is get rid of your sources.list and any files in sources.list.d and write a proper stretch sources lists and apt update |
| 23:55.10 | over7head | no i didnt everything works instead of graphic driver |
| 23:55.17 | rant | then remove anything from anything newer than stretch and remove all pins |
| 23:55.27 | over7head | let debian put mor packages and i will not ad repos |
| 23:55.47 | over7head | only 3 dock supported |
| 23:55.50 | BCMM | over7head: rtl8188eufw.bin is in firmware-realtek on stretch, buster and sid. is that all you've got jessie enabled for? |
| 23:56.02 | rant | the firmware package if its REALLY not available, you need only one file from it, and you can manually place that in /lib/firmware |
| 23:57.44 | over7head | ok what about graphic? |
| 23:57.57 | rant | that will all be resolved once you fix the package system |
| 23:57.58 | joepublic | "let debian put mor packages and i will not ad repos" <-- Thanks for playing. Unfortunately, you lose before you get started. Play again real soon. |
| 23:58.01 | over7head | that repos... didnt fo anything instead updateing apt |
| 23:58.09 | rant | and stop using partial graphics components from sid |
| 23:58.23 | rant | and your entire sources.list is wrong |
| 23:58.23 | BCMM | rant: it *is* available... i think oldstable is just the only dist he has non-free enabled on |
| 23:58.47 | BCMM | did over7head paste a sources.list? |
| 23:58.52 | over7head | what i should delate from repos list ? |
| 23:59.00 | rant | BCMM: oh I'm sure it was.. I recognized the old metapackage name.. I figured it was wrong package but they never provided the lsusb output for me to see the vend/prod id and I do not go by generic names |
| 23:59.08 | rant | over7head: all of it |