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00:49.21shadow98I have several bluetooth devices. I have two pair of headphones that are somewhat newer purchased within the last year. One of them will connect and I can get sound through it. However another will connect but just clicks and will not produce sound. It works with other devices just fine like my cellphone.
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00:50.39shadow98I setup the device and made sure it was trusted
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00:51.49shadow98https://www.amazon.com/SkullCandy-Uproar-Onear-Wireless-Headphones/dp/B00WGMRD2S <--- these are what is not working.
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00:53.34shadow98I just connected them to my friends laptop who is running kde arch linux and they worked right away.
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01:17.36tomreynbugs.debian.org (2607:f8f0:614:1::1274:39) port 443  (https) responds rather slowly for me. 14.5 seconds to respond with a 302.
01:18.22tomreynmost time is spent on the TLS handshake
01:18.56nkuttlereh.. real    0m9.898s
01:20.34nkuttleractually.., that was the name resolution failing.. when it succeeds real    0m16.080s
01:22.11tomreynthanks for confirming
01:24.31nkuttlerbut the target url is snappy
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01:32.35toruvinntomreyn, report it as a bug
01:32.36toruvinnoh wait
01:32.37toruvinn;-)
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01:33.31toruvinnthat's it, no more looking over the shoulder. retpoline joine.
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01:35.38toruvinnnotices he's slower to go from one task to another for some reason
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02:22.16rsullyI have the KDE livecd running in a VM. When I run `debootstrap stretch /mnt` the file /mnt/etc/resolv.conf is created - is there an easy explanation for this? I assume network manager is running on the livecd, but why would it touch anything inside my /mnt folder?
02:22.19rsullycc ksk
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05:06.13rantis USB3 wired in some special way that an old USB extension would effect it? I.e. how PATA cables went from 40 to 80 wires?
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05:08.19cheapierant: Yes, USB 3.x has more contacts in the plug (and more wires to go with it) - older cables will only work in USB 2.0 mode.
05:08.39rantI thought so.. and I was just looking on wikipedia and I am seeing there are more contacts
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05:10.28rantlooks like I'd need to buy some newer extension cables at some point
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05:34.33CatatronicHi dirka
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09:43.39at0mantto: swappoff $swapdevice && swappon $swapdevice ?
09:44.26at0m*swapon/swapoff
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09:46.11at0mantto: but generally, linux has great memory management, and what you're trying to do will probably just cause extra work without benefits. somewhat related, http://linuxatemyram.com
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09:52.47anttoat0m hm, i tried swapoff -a
09:53.05anttoswap usage went up, the command hasn't finished yet
09:53.20anttoah, done
09:53.21anttoyey
09:53.25at0mwait for it to finish. it'll dump the swap to RAM
09:53.48anttoyes, perfect, thanks!
09:54.22at0mantto: safer to swapon again. random errors will accompany you on the journey if RAM runs out
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10:00.20bingbotboomi need a little area in ram to mount as a drive, what would I be mounting?
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10:39.12at0mbingbotboom: there's always /dev/shm/ for ramdisk. feel free to put there what you need, incl subdirs. and as with any ramdisk, it's wiped on reboot
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11:01.51uioHello, is there a pdf spell-checker? I tried looking for one but have been unsuccessful...
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11:06.07uioOr is there a spell-checker for gnumeric ? I produced the pdf with this application, but it seems to be missing this basic feature.
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11:19.15kskuio: found https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnumeric-list/2007-January/msg00012.html
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11:19.27ksk"Perhaps a spell check module would be useful to some in gnumeric, but
11:19.27ksknot to most I wouldn't think. A spreadsheet is not a place for prose.
11:19.29ksk"
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11:19.51ksksorry for the linebreak :/ seems irssi only warns about some treshhold (3lines maybe..?), gonna check..
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11:20.43kskand someone stating you should either use libreoffice or abiword
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11:21.04ksk- your personal irc <-> google interface
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11:22.22uioksk: Okay, thanks. Well, it sometimes is a place for some prose and I have ended up using Calc to do the spell checking for a Gnumeric doc. I think we can applaud Gnumeric.
11:24.11kskI suppose its a binary format vim cannot upen? (I think there would be like any addon for vim or emacs)
11:24.21ksk*vim cannot read
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11:26.08uioksk: I mean, I can just copy and paste the text from the table to any text editor, but this adds a totally avoidable step. Prime example of Linux not adapting to human users (ie, can you imagine a spreadsheet application in Apple or M$ that wouldn't have spellchech !?)
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11:26.20kskor, can you maybe somehow template your gnumeric input file (like taking the written text from $input, and do spellchecking on that seperately)
11:26.30uioksk: But thanks for your help!
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11:26.51kskyeah, I get you, automate all the things!
11:28.42uioksk: I don't know if I want things automated, but I just get bothered when I have to always go out of my way to get a simple task done. Like here again, Calc is missing some language dictionary. Sometimes solving the problems around doing something in Linux  take longer than actually doing what you're trying to do. I'm all for FOSS, but I totally get people who don't feel like buying freedom at the cost of so much time!
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14:01.25DonK_KijotEHi
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14:03.06DonK_KijotEcould anyone lend me a hand? I suspended my Debian station and then wasn't able to wake up properly so I had to force reboot it. The thing is despite my keyboard working great before in Debian now it won't work on the grub menu so I can only boot into the default option which is not Debian. Could anyone help me or tell me what I should look into? Thanks on beforehand.
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14:05.51nkuttlerDonK_KijotE: try to power off the machine entirely? sometimes hardware needs a cold reboot when it's messed up..
14:06.16DonK_KijotEnkuttler: I did so but I'm afraid the problem remains :(
14:07.01DonK_KijotEmy guess is that the keyboards unresponsiveness would get fixed if I manage to boot the system and all modules are loaded
14:07.08booyahDonK_KijotE: power off, wait 2 minutes, power on
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14:07.46DonK_KijotEbooyah: I didn't even give it 10 seconds... gonna power off and try. BRB and hopefully from Debian :) Thx
14:07.50booyahDonK_KijotE: also enter BIOS settings and make sure the USB legacy something is enabled, afair with this set wrong USB does not work before OS
14:08.05DonK_KijotEI checked for legacy and it's enabled
14:08.09DonK_KijotEbrb
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14:12.38DonK_KijotEHey guys, no luck :(
14:13.04DonK_KijotEThe keyboard turns on when the computer is powered, it works to enter the bios and inside it
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14:13.35DonK_KijotEbut when the grub menu appears the lights are still on but it's not responsive :( I wish I had set my Debian system as the default boot option...
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14:15.04DonK_KijotEgonna try disabling fast boot on bios...
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14:35.48war9407jelly: ty!
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15:12.55charkingHello.  I just put Debian on someone's Windows laptop.  They have an SD Card with some files on it from Windows, but it shows up as "Free Space" in GNOME Disks.  Is there a way to get the partition to show up?
15:13.56charkingI have another Debian computer that sees it as exFAT!  Not sure what the difference is.  I'll investigate.
15:14.33n4dirbeyond me, but as soon i hear Windows i think of ntfs-3g
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15:19.25OerHeksfor exfat, you would need 2 utils, exfat fuse and exfat utils, then reinsert that sdcard again
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15:30.47charkingexfat-fuse and exfat-utils are on both laptops.  One can see the exFAT partition on the SD Card and the other can't.  Both recognize the presence of the SD Card.  Any ideas?
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15:31.12charkingBoth are Debian 9.8
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15:32.01charking!  It's working now on both laptops.  I didn't change anything. ??
15:34.49charkingI ejected and re-inserted and now the exFAT partition isn't deteced again. :/  So it seems to not consistently see the SD Card exFAT partition.
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15:46.52BCMMcharking: any chance the card itself is giving inconsistent data? any read errors in dmesg when you connect it?
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15:49.57DonK_KijotEHi again :)
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16:00.25tmrolandwow gnome 3.32 is still slow as moleasses
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16:03.31Deihmospretty fast to me
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16:04.04Deihmosi installed listchanges with unattended updates but i have yet to receive a single message from it
16:04.18Deihmosanyone use it? i get emails when something is updated
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16:11.05n_1-c_kIf you are familiar with live-build: what is the incantation to have it build an image that includes some package "foo"?
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16:17.33charkingBCMM: /var/log/messages said something about being unable to read the partition table, I think.  Temporarily no access to the laptop though to further debug.  Thanks for the suggestion
16:17.58charkingBCMM: I will try to try with another card to see if it's the card or the system
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16:20.30n4dirn_1-c_k: it's been ages, but look if this page may help (add "foo" to config/package-lists) https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/customizing-package-installation.en.html
16:21.17n_1-c_kn4dir: that looks hopeful, thanks
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16:22.03n4dirn_1-c_k: back in the days live-build was a "burner" at forums.debian.net, but not anymore, and i couldn't find  anything useful via websearch.
16:22.19n4dirbut i only searched quickly, if you got the time, search forums.debian.net, perhaps
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16:31.56jhutchins!live
16:31.56dpkgThe Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own.  These can be used to install a Debian system.  Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ .  http://live.debian.net/  #debian-live on irc.debian.org.  See also <live firmware>.  For Debian 8 "Jessie", you CANNOT install in <UEFI> mode from a Debian Live image. See <live stretch>.
16:33.07jhutchinsn_1-c_k: See also pendrivelinux.com for lots of information about building your own live images.
16:33.55jhutchinsn_1-c_k: There are also "iso editors" that provide a wrapper around unpacking an iso, modifying the filestructure, and rebuilding it.
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16:35.05tmrolandis gnome 3.32 in debian experimental/unstable yet?
16:38.42n_1-c_kn4dir: I'm seeing signs of my package getting included, this is progress.
16:38.58n_1-c_kjhutchins: thanks, I might avail myself of those.
16:39.34n4dirgood luck in each case. ain't easy to find help with it these days. i guess.
16:40.08n4dirthere is a non-debian tool called refractasnapshot. might be handy, depending what exactly you want.
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16:46.27slacker_nlhi guys, I'm getting a core dump with zsh on debian testing
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16:57.39sshTAPshey how can I get the necessary drivers and such to make an X200/T500 thinkpad internal web camera work?
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17:00.32sshTAPsall the guides are like 2003 lol
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17:05.59sshTAPscheese, ok nm. will test and maybe come back lol
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17:07.04areyoulocohow can i set english for the output of make command? via some envariomental variable but which one is it?
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17:14.53choiceIn Debian 8, how do you restart apache?
17:15.11choice"service apache2 restart"?
17:16.33nkuttlerareyouloco: see man locale, LC_ALL
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17:22.11areyouloconkuttler: thank will look into that
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17:28.29areyouloconkuttler: thanks I reconfigured locales to add enfglish ones and localepurge but output of make is still in polish
17:29.39nkuttlerwhat's the output of "locale"?
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17:30.00areyoulocoeverythign pl_PL.UTF-8
17:30.17nkuttlerso set LC_ALL
17:30.25areyoulocoi did sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and have set default to en_UTF8
17:30.26nkuttler!localized errors
17:30.26dpkgTo provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install".
17:30.29nkuttlerlike this
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17:33.24areyoulocoi runned command=> colormake LC_ALL=C ARCH=arm64 CROSS_COMPILE=/home/areyouloco/code/ANDROID_BUILD/toolchain/bin/aarch64-linux-android-
17:33.38areyoulocoand it's still in english
17:34.18areyoulocoI think I wouldn't mind on setting whole system language to english
17:34.24areyoulocomistake *polish
17:34.36nkuttlerthe env var goes *before* the command..
17:35.27areyouloco**before** compiling:D
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17:37.24areyoulocook progress but it's half-half now
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17:38.15areyoulocoit looks like this https://www.anarchistos.tk/privatebin/?707c55edb531c3b7#kYTbXh8HaDWCh0l/rUomUE10mVfcjkodqkMBrwBQQE0=
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17:42.58format_cit depends if the application (here the compiler) has implemented *every* text as a translatable text or if for a certain text, a translated text for the target language (here Polish) is available.
17:43.46format_cI'm pretty sure, that the error and warning messages of the GNU compiler are not translated on purpose.
17:44.00areyouloconope they arent
17:44.31areyoulocook nkuttler and format_c thanks fot the hints it's fine by now.
17:45.22areyoulocowhere would you point me to help me debug the compiler errors? I don't really know C++ in my life I wrote only some stupid basic calc
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18:56.21n_1-c_kn4dir: eventually I succeeded in my live-build mission, thanks for pointing me to that documentation.
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18:56.47areyoulocon_1-c_k: could I also get a link to the docs?
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18:57.05n_1-c_kareyouloco: sure, https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/customizing-package-installation.en.html
18:57.44areyoulocooww live-manual i thouth it's somethign else. I once tried to translate everything to polish
18:57.48areyoulocoalmost finished
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20:16.43seekrgetting close to bedtime, diogenes_?  |-)
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20:19.32seekrdiogenes_: It's getting close to a time when I'll have to decide how to lay out a new 6TB drive, esp. whether to use LVM, so its contents can be remapped and/or extended later.  I've just finished copying stuff from various drives to another 6TB one.
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20:21.14seekrdiogenes_: The root partition on the old system uses both LVM and LUKS - all set up by the installer.  But I gotta learn how to do it by hand, since I'll be cloning a Mint install.
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20:24.45diogenes_seekr, hello, why would you go with encrypting stuff? i mean do you have any top secret info that has to be encrypted because encryption will work but if you happen to get a broken system then it will be very very difficult to even back up the data out of an encrypted volume
20:24.54diogenes_so i'd go without it
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20:27.55seekrdiogenes_: pls see PM
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20:39.06rantseekr: I just bought two 3TB drives to use for filesharing at home, and I opted against using LVM and just use them as two seperate drives.. because if you don't use RAID in combination with LVM you are basically saying you don't really care about the data..
20:39.45seekrhmmm - thanks, rant
20:40.13SwedeMikeraid is an uptime tool, backups is for when you care about your data.
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20:41.18rantyes this is true, but most levels provide fault tolerance covering you in disk failures.. and thats what I figured, for now not using LVM to tie the two 3TB drives into a 6TB volume would allow me to backup certain things to both disks
20:42.00seekrI'll have to study the subject more thoroughly.
20:42.02dondelelcarorant: that's not quite true, unless you want a single 6T volume
20:42.35dondelelcaro(though you *will* lose data on volumes which spans the physical extents
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20:44.38rantI plan to eventually setup a real server with RAID5 or RAID6 and have backups, but for now I spent $100 and got two 3TB HGST Ultrastar 7k4000 drives and a two bay USB3 dock and hooked it to a HP T520 Thin Client and have usable network storage, albiet far from ideal :D
20:44.53seekrDoes LVM splatter data around onto various volumes?
20:45.10dondelelcaroseekr: it depends on the allocation configuration
20:45.27seekryeah - I also got 6TB HGST drives, for $100 apiece.
20:45.34SwedeMikerant: I have personally experienced two instances of raid6 total data loss due to half of the drives just going kaputt.
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20:47.24rantseekr: I got these 3TB ones for $39/ea  right now pretty much anywhere the 3.5in SATA 3TB and 4TB quantities are the lowest cost/size
20:47.31dondelelcaro(I think the default is linear, but I have to admit I usually put LVM on RAID, so I only run into this issue when I have LVM spanning multiple RAIDs)
20:48.37seekrrant: good deal - problem is, I have only four SATA ports on the (ASUS) mobo, so I'm limited in internal storage - can add more external drives later if need be, tho
20:49.36rantseekr: yeah well all I had was an orange pi, two thin clients, and laptops.. heh.. so.. I bought a 2bay USB3 dock with standalone duplicator function for now, and just used a thin client for a server
20:49.52seekrdondelelcaro, rant - sounds as if I should skip LVM for now
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20:50.29rantI only get about 9-10mb/sec to wireless clients over my lan using even scp, but I have 6TB of network storage for the time being and only spent about $100 total
20:50.52seekrnot bad, rant
20:51.07rantseekr: if you're only doing LVM on a single disk, its not that big of an issue aside from management/recovery issues that could be introduced by technical debt if you don't know how it works
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20:52.09seekrrant: I was only planning to use LVM on a single drive - thought maybe I could span to a second drive later - but if it's risky, might be better to avoid
20:53.15rantmakes it nearly impossible to say what data goes on which drive and if you would be able to recover any of it in a single disk failure
20:53.26dondelelcaroseekr: I'd actually suggest using LVM even if you're doing single disk
20:53.37seekrdondelelcaro: yeah?  why??
20:53.43dondelelcaroseekr: the advantage is that it makes migrating disks much, much easier
20:53.57dondelelcaroseekr: I can migrate LVM from one physical disk to another without downtime
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20:54.10seekrdondelelcaro: that was my initial thought - maybe you could debate rant, and I could learn thereby  :)
20:55.05dondelelcaroand there's nothing which stops you from having 2 volume groups each on top of one physical volume
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20:55.24rantdebating me isn't all too constructive cause dondelelcaro is a DD, works at an AI lab in berkeley last I checked, and has lots of experience with this stuff, where I only use LVM cause I'm lazy and D-I set it up that way for my encrypted rootfs :D
20:56.05seekrrant: ah - I'm a Berkeley alum - but I studied CS there back in the stone age  :)
20:56.11dondelelcarorant: it's still good to discuss; you're raising good points
20:56.17rantI fear the abstractions of RAID and LVM where not really necessary cause I dont have that kinda experience with them, and would make me feel helpless if SHTF
20:56.38dondelelcaroI'm not at berkeley; I used to be at UIUC, but now I'm in industry.
20:56.52seekrah, dondelelcaro
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20:57.22rantdondelelcaro: ah.. well I'd been away for several years.. last I knew you were running that lab and berkeley
20:57.30rants/and/at/
20:57.42dondelelcarorant: ah; I was at UCR previously
20:58.01seekrAnyway, my only reason to think about using LVM at this point is in order to be able to grow a file system to a second physical drive - but I don't want to take avoidable risks, if I know what they are beforehand.
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20:58.30dondelelcaroseekr: ah; yeah, I'd avoid growing a filesystem across two drives if at all possible
20:58.40dondelelcaroseekr: better to do at least three
20:58.49seekrhmmm
20:58.52dondelelcaro(and do raid5 or raid6)
21:00.16seekrI'll think about RAID one of these days, but my needs are simpler now - willing to set up automated backups for things I fear losing.
21:01.18seekrI know RAID has other advantages also, but they're not important to me at present.
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21:02.53SwedeMikeI run raid6 for "everything" important, it's good uptime tool. But not substitute for backups, as I have had several close calls where things happened that came close to data loss
21:04.33seekrSwedeMike: yeah - I heard a horror story from a buddy who ran a Linux cluster at a major university - lost stuff after a RAID failure - but was able to recover from backups
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21:15.47digdilemthere's probably more horror stories about data loss from non-raid systems than raided ones
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21:19.34seekrsounds right to me - I wasn't meaning to imply that the problem was due to his using RAID - was saying only that RAID didn't ensure that he didn't lose anything
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21:27.51ws2k3does linux not use /proc/net/ip_vs anymore?
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21:36.10jhutchinsTHere is a tiny overhead added by LVM, but it's only noticible on extremely high throughput systems.
21:36.39jhutchinsseekr: Yeah, RAID != backups.
21:36.51ws2k3y
21:37.31jhutchinsI've seen more than one controller fail after the manufacturer didn't make anything compatible any more.
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21:38.22jhutchinsYou also have to make sure there's working notification if an element fails.  I've seen cases where the user didn't even know until a second drive failed, loosing the array.
21:38.43jhutchinsws2k3: What is your actual question?
21:40.07ws2k3jhutchins the y was just a type(wrong window) i have a very ancient application that im trying to get running, it read /proc/net/ip_vs else it just fails so im trying to get that file there
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21:42.22jhutchinsws2k3: What is the file supposed to be?  A proc file should be something generated by a process.
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21:43.05jhutchinsws2k3: If ip_vs isn't there, the process that generates it didn't run/isn't running.
21:43.32ws2k3jhutchins normaly the ipvs status is there with some information so im trying to get some random ipvs information there i already installed keepalived to try to get some info there
21:43.56jhutchinsYou're doing some kind of container thing, aren't you.
21:44.45ws2k3jhutchins no... and i have no idea what you mean just a plain debian machine no containers
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21:50.49jhutchinsI find /lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/ipvs/ip_vs.ko on my system, so I would guess ip_vs only loads when certain netfilter commands are enabled.
21:51.48jhutchinsws2k3: You could just modprobe it and see if that does the trick.
21:52.07tgunrI was trying to install a package with dpkg -i and got a notice about failed to obtain lock. Looking at processes I see `/usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 25 --configure --pending'  http://share.polymicro.net/pb-wUsZzHgNcZ.txt
21:52.47tgunrLooks like it is hung and I don;t know for how long it has been hanging. Whatis a safe way to kill this and try again?
21:53.19ws2k3jhutchins thanks the modprobe command got the ip_vs file so now it kinad works
21:53.24jhutchinsws2k3: io_vs does seem linked to kernel support of virtual servers - hence "vs".
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21:54.00tgunrSince it was mucking with initram I am afraid to restart the box
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21:54.51jhutchinsws2k3: From the project page: "IP Virtual Server support will let you build a high-performance virtual server based on cluster of two or more real servers."
21:55.17jhutchinsws2k3: I suspect you may need to take a step back and ask some questions at a higher level.
21:55.48mihitgunr, I doubt there is a safe way to kill update-initramfs. I'd probably kill #1640 and then manually re-run "update-initramfs -u" to make sure I have a working initramfs.
21:56.20tgunrwell crap, is there any way to know when this process started?
21:57.15tgunrI would rollback to before if I knew when it started
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21:59.35Stxtgunr: ps -ef should say
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22:01.25tgunrlooking
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22:02.12mihitgunr, I'd try "ps -q 1640 -eo pid,lstart"
22:03.40jhutchins!xy problem
22:03.40dpkgSlow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to proceed.  See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
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22:11.27Stxmihi: unsupportive on my system.
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22:11.46Stx-p does the trick though
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22:14.52mihiStx you are right. I thought of "ps -q 1640 -o pid,lstart" which works on my Debian box...
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22:16.46Stxmihi: cool, out of curiosity, what version of ps is that?
22:17.05tgunrWell i think I have finished with `update-initramfs -u' but there is no way to check without reboot?
22:18.22mihiStx, "ps from procps-ng 3.3.12"
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22:20.12Stxmihi: ah, Im running 3.3.9
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22:21.32ZenWalkerhi all, someone knows if there is any irc bot to annouce new bugs in some packages?
22:22.03tgunrspoke too soon, update-initramfs is stuck in wait
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22:24.01OerHeksZenWalker, nice idea, put all bugs in a dedicated channel, like ##news .. but it might give a flood
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22:25.49Marzwhen i install debian testing it says buster in the sources. shouldn't it say testing?
22:29.11mihiMarz, I don't know what the debian installer writes by default, but I prefer the codename, as it won't upgrade me to next testing once buster is released.
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22:30.42Marzso testing is pretty much testing the new release and is at this point frozen?
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22:31.06Marzso no more new updates from sid
22:32.25mihiMarz, only manually picked updates: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/03/msg00003.html
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22:36.07Marzi see
22:36.32Marzso if i change the source from buster to testing there will be no updates
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22:37.22tgunrso initramfs is in /boot, should I be safe to zfs clone back to last known good snapshot and copy its /boot over?
22:40.58mihiMarz, "buster" and "testing" will behave the same way, until Buster is released. You will only receive those updates hand-picked for the Buster release (because they fix RC bugs)
22:41.54mihiafter the release of buster, "testing" will behave the same way as "bullseye"
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22:43.20Deihmosi saw something on reddit about some gnome updates that wouldn't make it to buster
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23:25.24tgunrI cant seem to run update-initramfs no matter what I try, it ends up hanging
23:25.26tgunrhttp://share.polymicro.net/pb-z2wqNbxRQ7.txt
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23:29.30rantis there a mechanism in place for setting default values for sys interfaces, or is using a systemd oneshot the way to go?
23:30.25rantI have been seriously considering writing a tool, possibly with a GUI option, for interfacing with the sys interfaces cause they're getting rather convoluted
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23:46.37outoftimerant: what gui lib you are going to use? ncurses? (:
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23:48.09rantoutoftime: perhaps, and perhaps something more X friendly
23:48.54rantoutoftime: its one of those things I reeeeaaaaly don't wanna do, but am getting fed up enough to do..
23:49.13rantI mean c'mon, who'd think to look here for their trackpoint settings? /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/
23:49.28rantcan't we just call it /sys/devices/trackpoint?
23:49.44rantwhats with all this platform.. blah.. serio this serio that..
23:51.39rantwriting an app would give you means to not only query and set sys interface values and create a simple way to set defaults, but also a way to start making it more understable to the user.. create either some sort of template/regex/heuristic or some such way of identifying what things are..
23:51.44phaquihey folks. I'm having troubles with the sound. Listening to music, it periodically works jsut fine for around a minute, then goes into a period of a minute with a strange "glitchy" effect.
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23:53.07rantphaqui: are you doing a lot on the machine that the CPU may be tied up in iowait?
23:53.40phaquiI'm not doing any kind of heavy cpu work, no
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23:54.48phaquihtop reporting cpu at 1.3%. I know that it is not a problem with the sound card, because listening to the same station from my host os (win7) works just fine.
23:56.17phaquiWhat's more likely: a problem with ALSA, or a problem with Pulseaudio?
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