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| 00:06.24 | tvm | phaqui: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Glitches,_skips_or_crackling |
| 00:08.11 | phaqui | Yes, I tried that one. Setting tsched=0 made it so that systemd reported a failed startup, and I tried to find log files, but not being an expert at systemd, all I could do was some journald command, and unfortunately I did not find anything |
| 00:09.08 | phaqui | now, it could just very well be a problem with the web player - or even firefox |
| 00:11.36 | phaqui | so I installed mpd, and was in the process of trying to install a music player client for it. I found one that seemed to be nice, with vim-like keybindings, called vimpc. Now, unfortunately I ran into problems with that one. It did not exist in the repos, and trying to compile it myself I just ran into a lot of problems with the ./configure step stopping on a syntax error regard pcre (even though I did |
| 00:11.37 | phaqui | install both libpcre3 and libpcre3-dev - though it may have been a problem with something called pkg-config).. - well, I gave that up |
| 00:12.36 | Deihmos | when i try to add a user to sudo it doesn't work. I use adduser user sudo |
| 00:13.19 | Deihmos | bash: adduser: command not found |
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| 00:14.29 | ZenWalker | OerHeks: no flood if it is for few packages |
| 00:14.43 | agio | hi, does anyone know why `ps e -p<pid>' in a container doesn't report the processes env? is there any other way to get this info, .e.g maybe out of /proc ? |
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| 00:49.13 | phaqui | Ouch. I was able to load up the playlist into mpd and play it with mpc, and it played normally for a very long time, before the glitchy effect appeared |
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| 01:05.35 | Tom-_ | is this web page supposed to work? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=dpkg |
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| 01:13.59 | themill | Tom-_: there are a few packages with so many bugs they cause the bts to break. That's known and apparently very difficult⢠to fix and is queued up behind some other changes. |
| 01:14.05 | themill | http://bugs.debian.org/src:dpkg seems to work ok |
| 01:17.12 | Tom-_ | okay tyvm |
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| 01:21.36 | aexl | hi. can i grow a degraded raid1 and let it be degraded? (it's more about size now than security/performance) |
| 01:21.56 | dondelelcaro | Tom-_: it should work; if it isn't, bugs-devel.debian.org/dpkg; will |
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| 01:33.06 | Tom-_ | okay thanks. i just need to search for redundant bug reports but i think i found nothing |
| 01:33.07 | Tom-_ | :) |
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| 03:26.52 | aexl | i guess i can just resize it like any other partition right? (maybe afterwards use resize2fs) |
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| 03:43.09 | PMA | Hello friends. I am trying to interface with GPIO on a development board that uses mendel linux (debian deriv) - I have sucessfully found /sys/bus/gpio/devices which has 5 directories. gpiochip0, gpiochip1 to gpiochip5. These each contain the following: https://bpaste.net/show/4319332f2532 |
| 03:44.41 | PMA | My question is, how do i get started on interfacing with the GPIO's on this.. how do i find what driver it is using? get more info about it? the dev board is by Google Coral and their are no examples or docs on either mendel linux or the gpios.. only some ML examples |
| 03:45.35 | well_laid_lawn | did you get a manual with the board ? |
| 03:45.37 | themill | PMA: you need the specs for the hardware and how it has been added to the devicetree. |
| 03:45.57 | PMA | the manual said "go here: link" and the link was setting up mendel linux |
| 03:46.17 | themill | (this is really device specific and unlikely anyone in #debian will know) |
| 03:46.30 | PMA | I see - thank you themill I will keep searching!! |
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| 04:02.40 | PMA | i just wanted to add on -the datasheet says "You can interact with each pin using standard Linux interfaces such as device /dev and sysfs /sys" - is there some sort of documentation on interacting with these in a generic way, since google seems to think i should know how to do this |
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| 04:12.02 | PMA | found: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.17/driver-api/gpio/index.html |
| 04:12.39 | aexl | can't even get results for "snapdragon 855 gpio" (which is the soc for Google Coral) |
| 04:13.50 | aexl | well the results are for snapdragon 820 ... |
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| 04:14.16 | aexl | PMA: maybe also start here? https://elinux.org/GPIO |
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| 04:16.33 | PMA | thats exactly what i needed, thank you!! |
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| 04:22.54 | jcb2016 | why is debian-next invite only on freenode but anyone can join debian-next on oftc? |
| 04:24.14 | aexl | :) |
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| 04:24.52 | aexl | jcb2016: cos freenode is bigger? |
| 04:25.28 | Marz | why does everything look so much sharper in ubuntu compared to debian |
| 04:26.07 | karlpinc | jcb2016: Because there is, basically, no #debian-next channel on freenode. You are forced to go to oftc. |
| 04:26.13 | themill | jcb2016: #debian-next on freenode does not exist. |
| 04:26.25 | jcb2016 | got it. thought i saw something |
| 04:26.31 | themill | (all debian channels are on oftc) |
| 04:26.39 | mandeep | Marz: probably depends on the desktop environment |
| 04:26.59 | aexl | Marz: ubuntu is ubiquity |
| 04:27.00 | jcb2016 | whats diff from oftc and freenode. on oftc #debian its dead on freenode there is life. just my observation |
| 04:27.06 | Marz | same DE |
| 04:27.11 | mandeep | Marz: which de |
| 04:27.13 | aexl | oh |
| 04:27.16 | Marz | gnome |
| 04:27.31 | karlpinc | jcb2016: oftc hosts the official channels. |
| 04:28.29 | jcb2016 | karlpinc: freenode #debian isn't offical? |
| 04:28.51 | themill | sort of. |
| 04:29.13 | karlpinc | Marz: It's conceivable that a newer kernel from backports.debian.org will improve things. Couldn't hurt to try, but I wouldn't hold your breath. I could be completely wrong. |
| 04:29.24 | aexl | same dpi? maybe change hinting and/or antialiasing? |
| 04:29.34 | themill | Marz: could be the video driver you are using or the font settings |
| 04:30.32 | Marz | the ubuntu fonts look a lot better. i even added then to debian |
| 04:30.55 | jcb2016 | themill: do you hang out in oftc and freenode? |
| 04:31.01 | Marz | i wish i could get this theme on debian |
| 04:31.12 | Marz | ubuntu has the best themes |
| 04:31.16 | aexl | Marz: why not stay on ubuntu? |
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| 04:36.10 | aexl | ^^ |
| 04:37.17 | aexl | ubuntu is african for "i cunt con-figure out linucks" |
| 04:43.57 | themill | aexl: not as helpful as you think, btw. |
| 04:44.35 | aexl | i wasn't thinking. but was he? |
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| 04:49.30 | whislock | Irrelevant. Please try to be constructive in this channel. |
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| 04:50.48 | aexl | i was trying to help by asking "why not stay on ubuntu?" but he didn't muster up the decency to answer |
| 04:51.44 | whislock | Your behavior may be relevant to why he didn't respond to you. Your use of the word 'decency' seems hypocritical. |
| 04:52.11 | aexl | okay. what would have been a better of asking? |
| 04:52.20 | whislock | Please try to be helpful in the future, with a "reasonable person" understanding of the word "helpful." |
| 04:53.11 | aexl | i'll try to only answer "reasonable persons" okay |
| 04:53.36 | themill | aexl: the person may also be AFK right now. |
| 04:54.15 | themill | (considering they timed-out, that is most likely) |
| 04:54.36 | aexl | yeah okay why you making a fuss about this?^^ |
| 04:54.48 | aexl | sorry guys roflmao |
| 04:54.56 | themill | Because insults aren't really that welcome in the Debian community. |
| 04:55.35 | aexl | insult? |
| 04:57.37 | bingbotboom | stupidity may be acceptible if that is this persons natural limit. If perhaps he is handicapped with mental retardation we are obliged to treat him rezpectfully |
| 04:57.57 | aexl | it's an insult to come here and talk stuff like "ugh ubuntu is much better duh" |
| 04:58.21 | aexl | "i've already figgurd it out duh. debian is so fugly" |
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| 04:59.38 | themill | aexl: please stop. |
| 04:59.39 | bingbotboom | unfortunately this one is stupid and ihno |
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| 05:27.27 | FarhaadN | I am using debian 9.5.1 , i enter command : timedatectl status |
| 05:27.27 | FarhaadN | and i got error : Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory |
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| 05:31.10 | aexl | that's part of systemd. did you restart? |
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| 06:34.37 | pennTeller | Hi guys, can anyone share with me your reason for using Debian as a desktop OS vs other distros? |
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| 06:35.16 | Kyros | stability |
| 06:35.24 | shtrb | how can I identify why I have several copies of the same network in Network-Manager ? |
| 06:37.18 | aexl | pennTeller: what Kyros said. i can also install stable, unstable, testing most comfortably |
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| 06:38.19 | pennTeller | Thank you both for sharing your opinions |
| 06:38.42 | themill | !why debian |
| 06:38.42 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
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| 06:39.33 | pennTeller | Thanks for those links :) |
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| 06:39.54 | themill | manoj's talk looks a bit dated these days |
| 06:40.09 | dtux | the way it's community run, promotes free software, and the fact that it's an OG OS: https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline/releases/download/v16.12/gldt_v16.12.png |
| 06:40.36 | pennTeller | dtux, what is that image about? |
| 06:40.56 | pennTeller | dtux, hole molly I see now |
| 06:43.49 | aexl | dos is also an og os^^ |
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| 06:45.10 | pennTeller | aexl, haha true |
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| 06:50.08 | dtux | aexl: is it still maintained?? |
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| 06:54.23 | aexl | you can |
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| 10:43.02 | noqnio1 | hello everyone. I want to move from stable to testing, and when I change my sources dist-upgrade suggests removing most of my system. How can I find offending dependecies ? |
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| 10:45.44 | aexl | sudo apt install *packages-to-be-upgraded* *package-1-you-deem-important*+ *package-2-you-deem-important*+ ... |
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| 10:49.24 | themill | noqnio1: did you ask apt to an upgrade before doing a dist-upgrade? |
| 10:50.11 | noqnio1 | aexl: Thanks |
| 10:50.20 | noqnio1 | themill: yes but it keeps half of the system back |
| 10:50.25 | themill | sure |
| 10:50.33 | noqnio1 | should I run it before trying to dist-upgrade? |
| 10:50.35 | themill | nothing wrong with tht |
| 10:50.36 | themill | yes |
| 10:50.41 | noqnio1 | ah ok will try that |
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| 10:51.22 | DonK_KijotE | Hi |
| 10:51.32 | aexl | hi DonK_KijotE |
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| 11:06.27 | DonK_KijotE | hey aexl sorry didn't notice :) |
| 11:06.38 | aexl | np |
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| 11:48.21 | XsiSec | Hi guys I am using debian 9 stretch, I am currently also have a encrypted disk that I believe is broke and dead very soon. notice the disk is not on automount also it's not in fstab. but If I disconnect the hardware I get a lots of errror-messages and can't start debian |
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| 11:51.23 | GNU\colossus | boot from a live medium, and dd the whole disk into a single file on another medium. don't write to it. that's the very first thing you do. |
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| 11:56.29 | XsiSec | could you simplfy what you said please :( |
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| 12:02.00 | milkt | make a copy of that soon-dead disk, only read from and don't write to that soon-dead disk |
| 12:02.56 | GNU\colossus | correct. also, try not to read from it more often than you absolutely need to. |
| 12:03.00 | GNU\colossus | (ideally, that is just once) |
| 12:07.16 | milkt | XsiSec: prepare another disk which have space to save the file, which is the disk size of encrypted disk. and prepare USB memory or CD containing live OS which you can boot from. then make raw copy of disk, save in another disk |
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| 12:09.29 | XsiSec | notice the content of the disk it's only regular data not the OS os anything such that. |
| 12:09.55 | XsiSec | I just want to get rid of the disk for debian so I can start it a normal. |
| 12:10.00 | XsiSec | from debian* |
| 12:10.26 | milkt | XsiSec: so you don't want encrypted data anymore? |
| 12:11.07 | milkt | you can just disconnect it i guess |
| 12:11.44 | MaxLanar- | XsiSec: Yes, to get rid of the disk just disconnect it ^^ |
| 12:12.00 | XsiSec | milkt, I just want to save the data and I have already a solution for that. but once I disconnect the drive from my computer debian doesn't start propertly the disk is not even in fstab. |
| 12:12.30 | XsiSec | that's the whole issue |
| 12:12.41 | MaxLanar- | what "debian doesn't start properly" means ? |
| 12:12.50 | MaxLanar- | any error messages ? |
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| 12:14.55 | XsiSec | I have an encrypted disk contains debian OS. I boot decrypt it, then I get a lots of errors in laod screen. then it turns into 'security mode continue -d:'. |
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| 12:16.49 | MaxLanar- | And this happens *only* when your data-only second drive is not plugged ? |
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| 12:21.58 | XsiSec | correct |
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| 12:23.44 | MaxLanar- | XsiSec: what the "lots of errors" says ? read-write errors ? |
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| 12:26.07 | XsiSec | How can I store the erros in a textfile if I unplug the disk? is this right way to go? if I unplug the disk get into the issues then dmesg > /home/xxxx/Desktop/test.txt then |
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| 12:26.23 | XsiSec | or how would you perform that action? |
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| 12:38.13 | MaxLanar- | yes, on the terminal you can do dmesg > /home/xx/error.log (if your /home is mounted). Then you can use pastebinit (just do 'pastebinit /path/toyourfile.txt') and give us the link. |
| 12:39.07 | MaxLanar- | (install pastebinit on the working debian if needed) |
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| 12:56.47 | MaxLanar- | Hey, what is 'apt-clone' exactly doing ? Does it save the version of packages (for example does it know which package is from backports) ? Does it restore config files too (things in /etc) ? |
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| 13:00.04 | XsiSec | MaxLanar-, thanks I will install pastebinit |
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| 13:02.14 | Voldenet | MaxLanar-: I believe it's this tool https://github.com/mvo5/apt-clone and readme is more descriptive than manpage |
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| 13:09.45 | JordiGH | I'm trying to follow the instructions here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/740253/how-to-install-grub-in-an-external-hard-drive |
| 13:09.49 | MaxLanar- | Voldenet: yes it is. Thanks for the link. Sadly I can't find what I'm looking for there either. |
| 13:09.58 | JordiGH | But my problem is that my external drive doesn't have an EFI partition. |
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| 13:10.46 | JordiGH | Its current partition layout is /dev/sda1 for boot, /dev/sda2 for LVM, and inside the LVM there is /dev/sda5 with a LUKS-encrypted root and swap filesystems |
| 13:11.10 | JordiGH | (This is the default Debian layout for encrypted root partitions.) |
| 13:12.13 | JordiGH | So now to make room for efi, I guess I need to shrink /dev/sda2? Without wrecking the encrypted partition inside it? |
| 13:12.36 | JordiGH | I hope it doesn't matter if the efi partition is at the end of the drive instead of near the beginning with the boot partition. |
| 13:14.42 | JordiGH | An alternative might be to just make room in the /boot partition and see if I can squeeze everything in there, let me see... |
| 13:15.51 | MaxLanar- | JordiGH: you have a recent backup right (before attempting anything) ? Just saying. |
| 13:16.44 | JordiGH | MaxLanar-: Yeha. |
| 13:16.46 | JordiGH | *yeah |
| 13:18.47 | JordiGH | How much room do I even need for an efi partition? |
| 13:20.17 | JordiGH | Hm, on my host machine, I've got 512 MiB fat32 EFI partition with only 1.14 MiB used. |
| 13:20.25 | JordiGH | Does the EFI partition have to be the first one? |
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| 13:23.06 | aexl | https://askubuntu.com/questions/618244/does-the-uefi-partition-either-must-or-should-be-first-for-some-reason-if-s |
| 13:23.27 | milkt | JordiGH: seems not |
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| 13:24.34 | JordiGH | Okay, so I should be able to shrink about 10 megs off the end of the /boot partition and use the empty space for EFI, eh? |
| 13:24.35 | JordiGH | Let's try that. |
| 13:24.47 | milkt | JordiGH: maybe useful links: https://wiki.debian.org/Grub / https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html |
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| 13:29.45 | JordiGH | Hm, what's a quick way to see which linuxes I have installed? |
| 13:29.51 | JordiGH | I guess I can just look at /boot |
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| 13:41.31 | JordiGH | Hm, gparted has fat32 greyed out. |
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| 13:43.28 | JordiGH | Is there a minimum fat32 size or something? |
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| 13:43.48 | JordiGH | I have mkfs.fat so it appears I have the tools instealled for it. |
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| 13:45.01 | JordiGH | Yeah, 32 megs is the minimum size, aha. |
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| 13:48.09 | JordiGH | Oh boy let's see if this works. |
| 13:48.16 | JordiGH | https://butt.holdings/ |
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| 13:52.05 | aexl | lol |
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| 13:56.24 | JordiGH | Okay... I think I'm done. |
| 13:56.30 | JordiGH | brb rebooting |
| 13:57.06 | bindi | I installed my debian with the guided partitioning (encrypted lvm) but it created a swap of 96GB. I've since removed it (sorry i don't remember the exact commands) with lvm tools and removed it from /etc/fstab, but each reboot I get errors about the swap missing for ~30sec and then it continues, how can I get rid of that? |
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| 14:01.45 | aexl | bindi: just re-add it? |
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| 14:01.57 | JordiGH | Dammit, still won't boot. |
| 14:01.59 | bindi | aexl: what makes you think I want a 96GB swap? |
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| 14:02.16 | JordiGH | Wait... did I mess that up? Should I be installing a different EFI version of grub? |
| 14:02.29 | slacker_nl | create a smaller swapfile add that to your fstab? |
| 14:02.35 | bindi | i dont want swap! |
| 14:02.38 | bindi | jesus I have 96GB ram |
| 14:02.44 | bindi | I just want to get rid of the errors :D |
| 14:02.49 | aexl | JordiGH: have you tried this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111845/how-to-move-efi-and-boot-partitions |
| 14:02.54 | bindi | it slows down my boot |
| 14:02.55 | aexl | relax, bindi |
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| 14:03.12 | aexl | is it in your /etc/fstab? |
| 14:03.39 | JordiGH | aexl: bweuh? |
| 14:03.49 | JordiGH | Uhhh.. this looks like more magic than I'm familiar with. |
| 14:03.52 | bindi | aexl: did you read what I said? |
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| 14:04.55 | [sr] | howdy |
| 14:05.00 | slacker_nl | bindi: politeness goes a long way |
| 14:05.12 | [sr] | for systemd, since there's no rc.local as it is for initscripts package, |
| 14:05.25 | [sr] | which file whould i use for startup stuff that i want to add? |
| 14:05.30 | aexl | bindi: what does swapon -s say? |
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| 14:05.49 | bindi | I think its also very polite to read the whole question, I've been told to do exactly the opposite that I want, and then I get asked questions which are answered in my initial line. |
| 14:05.53 | bindi | aexl: nothing |
| 14:06.21 | aloo_shu | bindi , I'm not a systemd-fu master myself, but I'd look for an intelligible frontend to systemd, look for things that smell like searching swap, turn em off. alternatively, wait for a geek |
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| 14:07.24 | aexl | bindi: we're not bound to help you. we have lives. so bear with us as we bear with you. |
| 14:07.53 | bindi | I never said you are.. |
| 14:08.23 | JordiGH | Yeah, I didn't even install grub-efi, whoops. |
| 14:08.29 | JordiGH | Let's hope that works. |
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| 14:08.40 | dvs | lol |
| 14:08.41 | coruja | bindi, can you paste the errors you get during boot? |
| 14:08.42 | JordiGH | lol |
| 14:09.16 | bindi | coruja: sure, I was trying to find them from my phone, its been some weeks since I rebooted |
| 14:09.22 | bindi | "WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.", "Failed to find logical volume "debian-vg/swap_1" |
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| 14:10.09 | aexl | yeah, what aloo_shu said. wait for an expert |
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| 14:10.46 | bindi | it's a message from initramfs apparently, I see "RESUME=/dev/mapper/meskhenet--vg-swap_1" |
| 14:10.59 | bindi | accidental enter. I see that on /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume |
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| 14:11.25 | milkt | bindi: check /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume |
| 14:11.51 | milkt | comment out it and update-initramfs -u |
| 14:12.04 | bindi | \o/ |
| 14:12.20 | aexl | //o\ |
| 14:12.29 | aloo_shu | ok, bindi , then if you update initramfs, you might be golden. try man update-initramfs or similar to figure how |
| 14:12.38 | aloo_shu | what milkt said |
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| 14:16.04 | JordiGH | "Found Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) on /dev/mapper/chloe--vg-root" |
| 14:16.07 | JordiGH | Hm, that doesn't look right. |
| 14:16.13 | JordiGH | That's the host. |
| 14:16.17 | JordiGH | But I'm running this from the chroot. |
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| 14:16.24 | JordiGH | How do I tell grub to use the *other* one? |
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| 14:18.43 | aloo_shu | why, JordiGH , looks like grub run from chroot, uses the script to generate entries for each os found, for the grub menu |
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| 14:19.34 | JordiGH | Well, I want it to find another OS. |
| 14:19.39 | JordiGH | /dev/mapper/Iris-root |
| 14:19.53 | aloo_shu | I hope/guess you bind-mounted your /dev tree from host into the chroot |
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| 14:19.54 | JordiGH | That's the external hard drive I'm chrooted into. |
| 14:20.01 | JordiGH | Yeah, that's what I did. |
| 14:22.03 | noqnio1 | wow the font rasterization on buster is impressive |
| 14:22.08 | aexl | is a new installed debian this complicated nowadays? or are these just complicated configurations? |
| 14:22.19 | JordiGH | aexl: You're asking me? |
| 14:22.27 | JordiGH | These are complicated configurations. |
| 14:22.27 | aexl | general question |
| 14:22.31 | aexl | ic |
| 14:23.01 | JordiGH | This is an old drive from a laptop that died. The old laptop didn't have EFI. I'm now trying to make this drive bootable from a EFI laptop. |
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| 14:23.28 | JordiGH | I really do just want to boot into my old laptop. Other workarounds are more annoying and incomplete. |
| 14:25.22 | aexl | i think this is a question for a board maybe? |
| 14:25.25 | JordiGH | I wonder if I can just manually edit the grub.cfg file this thing generated... |
| 14:25.34 | JordiGH | aexl: Too impatient. ~:) |
| 14:25.37 | JordiGH | I'd rather just talk through this. |
| 14:25.50 | aexl | it's not recommended. (but i did it too more than once) |
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| 14:27.51 | JordiGH | Hm, I think it only *added* entries to boot. |
| 14:28.02 | JordiGH | I still see other entries in grub.cfg that look like they should be bootable. |
| 14:28.08 | JordiGH | Uh, let's try those. |
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| 14:28.22 | JordiGH | brb (again) |
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| 14:32.27 | JordiGH | Still no joy... |
| 14:32.53 | JordiGH | So what's supposed to put that grub-x86-64.efi file in /boot/efi/EFI/debian ? |
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| 14:33.09 | JordiGH | My host system has it, but the chroot doesn't. |
| 14:33.54 | aexl | the link i gave? |
| 14:34.37 | JordiGH | Which one? |
| 14:34.53 | aexl | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111845/how-to-move-efi-and-boot-partitions |
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| 14:35.27 | JordiGH | Yeah, doesn't seem to apply to me. |
| 14:35.34 | JordiGH | This one is after you already have the files. |
| 14:35.45 | JordiGH | I don't seem to have that shim efi file myself. |
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| 14:38.04 | JordiGH | Huh! I have something in that efi thing now! |
| 14:38.25 | JordiGH | I guess I needed to redo grub-install after installing grub-efi in lieu of grub-pc |
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| 14:39.02 | JordiGH | boy I'm scared I might hose the host OS installation. That'll be annoying... |
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| 14:39.51 | JordiGH | Okay, one more try... brb... hopefully... |
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| 14:48.38 | aexl | i hope he had live os ready^q^ |
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| 14:51.06 | JordiGH | Well, I did hose the host OS boot. |
| 14:51.13 | JordiGH | Now my laptop won't boot into anything. |
| 14:51.14 | JordiGH | whelp |
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| 14:51.30 | JordiGH | time to get a rescue livecd |
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| 14:52.22 | JordiGH | Now I'm on a borrowed Windows. How do you even flash the iso to a usb from Windows? |
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| 14:53.39 | dvs | !win32diskimager |
| 14:53.40 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 14:53.59 | JordiGH | inb4 xkcd 349 |
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| 14:54.17 | JordiGH | dvs: Thanks. |
| 14:54.56 | dvs | np |
| 14:55.06 | dvs | I mean |
| 14:55.09 | dvs | diif 455 iweif |
| 14:55.11 | dvs | ;-) |
| 14:57.02 | JordiGH | http://emmanuel-galindo.github.io/en/2017/04/05/fixing-debian-boot-uefi-grub/http://emmanuel-galindo.github.io/en/2017/04/05/fixing-debian-boot-uefi-grub/ |
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| 14:57.21 | JordiGH | whoops http://emmanuel-galindo.github.io/en/2017/04/05/fixing-debian-boot-uefi-grub/ |
| 14:57.29 | JordiGH | Okay, simple enough, let's try this... |
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| 14:57.40 | dvs | man, you ain't givin' up |
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| 14:58.25 | JordiGH | Well, now that I have an unbootable laptop... |
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| 14:59.58 | milkt | so you don't have backup? |
| 15:00.04 | aexl | https://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ |
| 15:00.13 | JordiGH | I do have backups. |
| 15:00.25 | JordiGH | I just don't have a Debian system to boot into right now. |
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| 15:01.19 | aexl | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:01.25 | aexl | oops |
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| 15:02.25 | aexl | supergrubdisk is only 20 mb |
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| 15:02.44 | aexl | maybe with this you can at least boot into it |
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| 15:03.01 | JordiGH | aexl: Eh, but I still need all the other stuff. |
| 15:03.28 | JordiGH | Oh, wait, this will help me boot into the actual broken configuration? |
| 15:03.39 | JordiGH | And then I can fix the grub installation from there? |
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| 15:04.11 | aexl | maybe⢠|
| 15:04.46 | JordiGH | Eh, I've done the fix from a live usb before. I trust that method more. |
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| 15:16.24 | JordiGH | Hm... |
| 15:16.38 | JordiGH | "The live images do not have support for uefi boot" |
| 15:16.44 | JordiGH | But I can boot them without uefi, right? |
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| 15:19.31 | slacker_nl | I think ubuntu live cd's have uefi support |
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| 15:20.52 | aexl | the guide wouldn't tell you to use debian live, would it now? |
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| 15:25.55 | Deihmos | anyone successfully removed the debian grub image? I want to change it to a black image |
| 15:26.00 | Deihmos | to a black background |
| 15:26.14 | Deihmos | in the grug conf there is no reference to it |
| 15:26.41 | JordiGH | aexl: Yeah, it says to use debian live. |
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| 15:27.02 | JordiGH | http://emmanuel-galindo.github.io/en/2017/04/05/fixing-debian-boot-uefi-grub/ |
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| 15:28.04 | n4dir | Deihmos: probably /etc/default/grub, the line: GRUB_BACKGROUND |
| 15:28.10 | slacker_nl | Deihmos: /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ? |
| 15:28.29 | n4dir | i do recall you could just move a png inside /boot, but forgot where exactly. |
| 15:29.09 | slacker_nl | it searches for.. for background in *.jpg *.JPG *.jpeg *.JPEG *.png *.PNG *.tga *.TGA; do in /boot/grub |
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| 15:38.27 | PsynoKhi0 | hi, I'm a bit confused about the "firejail" package in stretch. "apt show" lists very few dependencies, but when attempting to install it, a slew of xserver-xorg and python packages are installed as well... |
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| 15:39.15 | PsynoKhi0 | even the firejail project page mentions how few dependencies it supposedly requires |
| 15:39.56 | aloo_shu | PsynoKhi0: maybe 'recommends'? |
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| 15:40.24 | PsynoKhi0 | how should I go down the rabbit hole? |
| 15:40.38 | PsynoKhi0 | aloo_shu: the recommends list is even larger |
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| 15:41.08 | PsynoKhi0 | let me try something |
| 15:41.31 | aloo_shu | those may be treated like hard dependencies unless the feature is turned off, man apt, man dpkg, man -k dependencies ... |
| 15:42.31 | PsynoKhi0 | aloo_shu: right, wanna try to explicitly skip them, good catch :) |
| 15:42.41 | aloo_shu | also not sure how good 'show' is at recursing |
| 15:42.58 | aloo_shu | worth a shot at least |
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| 15:43.28 | n4dir | fiddling with it here, --no-install-recommends seem to remove pretty much all of the rest |
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| 15:43.59 | n4dir | so i'd assume most depends are dependencies of the recommends. Not that sure though, it is weird. |
| 15:44.43 | milkt | \ |
| 15:44.48 | milkt | mistype |
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| 15:46.11 | PsynoKhi0 | bingo, apt-get install --no-install-recommends firejail |
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| 15:47.03 | aloo_shu | yep, I remember having had a hard time, too, predicting dependencies, in my case I tried to make a lil self-sufficient offline repo for stuff I like to add to my standard installs |
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| 15:47.51 | PsynoKhi0 | n4dir: if true, I think it's going bit overboard |
| 15:47.58 | PsynoKhi0 | a bit* |
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| 15:48.35 | n4dir | PsynoKhi0: yeah, it sure is weird. I can't say why the list is so big without --no-install-recommends, only guess, but sure something you don't see every day. |
| 15:48.40 | aloo_shu | ah, cool if that worked \o/. can be permanently turned off in config, too, e.g. from synaptic frontend |
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| 15:48.53 | PsynoKhi0 | 15MB instead of 700KB install size |
| 15:50.07 | PsynoKhi0 | aloo_shu: yeah thanks, I did remember reading about that a LOOOONG time ago, but forgot about... that's what you get for using too many different distros I guess heh |
| 15:50.47 | PsynoKhi0 | so far it had never been so obnoxious though, might be a corner case |
| 15:51.07 | n4dir | doing it automatically can also get in your way and make some apps "unusable". I don't do it like that, some distros do though (antix and refracta, iirc) |
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| 15:52.27 | PsynoKhi0 | n4dir: aye, I'd rather have outliers every now and then |
| 15:52.47 | PsynoKhi0 | well, cheers, have a good one! |
| 15:54.21 | aloo_shu | I got my first (mainly) cli-only install now, wheezy under android, so finally I'm beginning to use aptitude. Will be a while until I understand what's different. |
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| 15:57.56 | aexl | so like wheezy beside android? or on top? |
| 15:59.13 | aloo_shu | 'mainly' cli only, because I optionally have matchbox DE, but only use it to display xterm and an onscreen keyboard, that's giving me the option to turn off the android part of the host system, and keep input/output working w/o tethering/remote login |
| 15:59.43 | aexl | nice |
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| 16:00.53 | aloo_shu | aexl: 'grafted' onto the android version of the linux kernel, and started in a chroot in an 'vendor'-initialised system |
| 16:01.18 | aexl | oof |
| 16:01.27 | aloo_shu | = no worries about missing modules |
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| 16:07.56 | JordiGH | Hm dammit rescue cd doesn't have wifi |
| 16:08.04 | JordiGH | Erm, rescue iso |
| 16:08.15 | JordiGH | Needs iwlwifi-firmware... |
| 16:08.50 | aloo_shu | aexl: much of the magic is done by linux-deploy from meefik.ru , but that's just a number of scripts with a gui frontend. Liked it better than lil'debi, botbrew basil and the rest, at least this meefik has already had the foresight that one *might* want to take over the display device, as opposed to e.g. running an xserver app |
| 16:08.53 | dvs | !firmware iso |
| 16:08.53 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
| 16:09.47 | JordiGH | Can I just install the missing firmware without redownloading the whole iso? |
| 16:10.14 | milkt | JordiGH: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ |
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| 16:11.52 | JordiGH | Where do I put that, root of the usb? |
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| 16:12.10 | dvs | A directory called /firmware I believe |
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| 16:13.25 | JordiGH | Extracted, right? |
| 16:13.38 | dvs | Yes |
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| 16:16.31 | JordiGH | Okay, let's try again... |
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| 16:19.53 | peaceguy | hello |
| 16:20.29 | peaceguy | can you please tell me what is the location of the file that contains commands for laptop charger? |
| 16:20.42 | peaceguy | commands that are executed when charger is plugged in/out |
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| 16:34.04 | JordiGH | Hm, firwmare didn't load. |
| 16:34.09 | JordiGH | Did I just get the wrong firmware? |
| 16:34.20 | JordiGH | I grabbed "current". |
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| 16:56.14 | JordiGH | Woo, fixed. |
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| 16:56.20 | JordiGH | I can now boot back into the broken laptop. |
| 16:57.29 | JordiGH | I guess I should quit for now. |
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| 17:03.09 | tmroland | gnome is sitll as slow as 3 30 |
| 17:03.12 | tmroland | they did jacksht |
| 17:03.28 | tmroland | theyve no idea how to design and develop a modern desktop |
| 17:03.33 | aexl | slow since 3.30? |
| 17:03.38 | tmroland | since 3.26 id guess |
| 17:03.44 | tmroland | old versions tend to be faster |
| 17:03.48 | tmroland | on high end hwardware too |
| 17:04.00 | aexl | still on 3.22.3 |
| 17:04.05 | tmroland | yea makes sense |
| 17:04.10 | tmroland | 3.32 is stuttery laggy mess |
| 17:04.14 | tmroland | so much propaganda |
| 17:04.16 | tmroland | for nothing |
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| 17:04.46 | tmroland | i mean kde is literally flying even on 2010 hardware |
| 17:04.57 | aexl | well there are other des, right? |
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| 17:05.02 | tmroland | absolutely zero stutter os slowdown eve nwith 20 apps open |
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| 17:05.11 | tmroland | not for me, i only find gnome and kde usable enough |
| 17:05.18 | tmroland | not a xfce or wm guy |
| 17:05.21 | aexl | downgrade? |
| 17:06.56 | tmroland | well i did find the old gnome from stretch faster |
| 17:07.01 | tmroland | as a side note |
| 17:07.47 | aexl | it is. even on 2007 hw |
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| 17:08.05 | tmroland | yep |
| 17:08.06 | aexl | fast that is |
| 17:08.19 | tmroland | but the fastest overall i find plasma |
| 17:08.24 | tmroland | its flying like superman |
| 17:08.27 | tmroland | even on junk hardware |
| 17:08.29 | tmroland | let alone good |
| 17:08.31 | aexl | nice |
| 17:08.35 | tmroland | and 800 mb ram memory consumption? |
| 17:08.39 | aexl | never really tried it |
| 17:08.39 | tmroland | vs gnome 1.5 gb or windows |
| 17:09.07 | tmroland | its nice u should i just find gnome is better integrated with linux and its apps |
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| 17:09.22 | aexl | gnome is around 800 mb for me |
| 17:09.29 | tmroland | old one perhaps |
| 17:09.33 | aexl | yep |
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| 17:09.43 | tmroland | then yes |
| 17:10.05 | aexl | so is downgrading not an option? |
| 17:10.14 | tmroland | im using arch linux atm |
| 17:10.17 | tmroland | so cant do |
| 17:10.22 | tmroland | always bleeding edge |
| 17:10.32 | tmroland | was hoping for a saviour version for gnome but meh no chance |
| 17:10.40 | aexl | bleeding edge heh |
| 17:10.47 | tmroland | yea, all newest upstream packages |
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| 17:10.50 | tmroland | kernel 5 0 2 |
| 17:11.01 | aexl | ik. but now you're bleeding for it^^ |
| 17:11.08 | tmroland | indeed |
| 17:11.11 | tmroland | the bleedgin edge |
| 17:11.14 | tmroland | is my blood on it |
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| 17:27.24 | JordiGH | On the plus side, I'm now the proud owner of a Debian stretch live usb. |
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| 17:28.34 | aexl | i thought you can boot into your laptop |
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| 17:31.00 | NetTerminalGene | does debian's esr firefox use distro's certificate manager? |
| 17:31.10 | NetTerminalGene | you know, stuff that trusts certificates |
| 17:31.42 | shtrb | Last I checked yes, but you can add per user |
| 17:32.03 | NetTerminalGene | shtrb, telling me? |
| 17:32.15 | shtrb | correct |
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| 17:32.24 | shtrb | just do not install ISP level CA |
| 17:32.32 | NetTerminalGene | i see |
| 17:33.15 | aexl | huh what certificate manager? |
| 17:33.48 | shtrb | ca-certificates, but the browser itself should also do verification |
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| 17:34.30 | shtrb | NetTerminalGene, why did you ask ? |
| 17:34.50 | NetTerminalGene | shtrb, i wansn't sure |
| 17:35.27 | shtrb | banned by providers > Users pecific > system specific |
| 17:36.13 | NetTerminalGene | is it better that way? |
| 17:36.21 | shtrb | s/banned by providers/OCSP and friends |
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| 17:37.08 | NetTerminalGene | for example darkmatter surveillance company said firefox to trust their certificate. even if firefox accept that, debian wouldn't? |
| 17:37.10 | tower | http://wiki.mozilla.org/CA/AddRootToFirefox |
| 17:37.10 | shtrb | I meant that there is precedence, and the browser will verify (unless instructed not to do it) |
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| 17:37.34 | shtrb | do not , I repeat DO NOT ADD CA. |
| 17:37.35 | tower | this article do you lookin for? |
| 17:38.24 | shtrb | adding a root ca , is the software manifestation of mixing sleeping pills and alcohol for the same user |
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| 17:39.19 | jhutchins | shtrb: Adding a root CA is a standard procedure that can be done safely if you know what you're doing. Blind ignorance is not a successful security policy. |
| 17:39.19 | shtrb | some doses will do small damage, others will send you to get spare parts or give spare parts to others |
| 17:39.39 | NetTerminalGene | i'm not after installing root ca |
| 17:40.07 | shtrb | jhutchins, if you are in the step of adding a root ca which was not shared, something is VERY fishy and dangerous |
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| 17:40.55 | NetTerminalGene | my question if firefox trust DarkMatter certificate, on debian it wouldn't if they don't accept it?? |
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| 17:42.51 | shtrb | try to check how firefox-esr certs are delivered |
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| 17:46.08 | milkt | seems firefox-esr don't depends on ca-certificates? apt autoremove ca-certificates don't saying that firefox-esr are getting removed |
| 17:47.04 | shtrb | source code is over 354 mb :-( |
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| 18:18.10 | JordiGH | aexl: I mean, I'm back to the beginning, with a bootable laptop, unbootable external drive, but now I also have rescue live USB. |
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| 18:18.40 | JordiGH | I guess this what they mean when they say to quit while you're ahead. |
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| 18:55.11 | integfred | Hi, I have a machine that has no internet connection, and I'm trying to run debian off of a usb, the usb has persistent storage. When I run lspci and grep for Ethernet, the card is listed as nvidia MCP77, does anyone know what package I have to install (free or non) to get network going? |
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| 18:59.48 | diogenes_ | integfred, first of all try to connect it to internet via tethering, using your phone via usb cable. |
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| 19:15.02 | shtrb | NetTerminalGene, I take my words back ! |
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| 19:15.40 | NetTerminalGene | shtrb, what do you mean? |
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| 19:16.39 | shtrb | Started to check how it get it certs, and I can't say I understand how it work |
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| 19:17.03 | aexl | integfred: it should already work with forcedeth. huge list: https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI |
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| 19:19.30 | shtrb | NetTerminalGene, maybe people at #mozilla will know. but if anything is enabled on mozilla level it will override your system config (I think) |
| 19:19.39 | shtrb | s/I think/I hope/g |
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| 19:19.56 | NetTerminalGene | ok |
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| 19:21.18 | integfred | ok |
| 19:21.35 | integfred | ta, it may be because the motherboard is broken |
| 19:21.52 | integfred | sata is messed up on it already, hence why booting off usb |
| 19:22.54 | integfred | from what i heard windoze crashed and someone yanked the power cable out the back of the computer whilst still on |
| 19:23.09 | integfred | ... like schoolboy error |
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| 19:38.00 | aexl | heh |
| 19:38.24 | aexl | so lspci doesn't list it, right? |
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| 19:53.57 | c0mrade | I've just created a Facebook Messenger Bot and it got approved by facebook so anyone should be able to see and use it :). I named it "Bot Inc." or @BotInc, when you try to message it you'll see a bunch of commands. I hope you guys can try it :D |
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| 19:57.09 | engys | ,v virglrenderer |
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| 19:58.07 | engys | ,v libvirglrenderer0 |
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| 19:58.08 | judd | Package: libvirglrenderer0 on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 0.5.0-1~bpo8+1; buster: 0.7.0-2; sid: 0.7.0-2 |
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| 19:59.26 | engys | uhhh jessie-backports and no stretch |
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| 20:00.18 | aexl | fb msg bot for debian? |
| 20:00.51 | c0mrade | aexl: Actually the bot server is on debian. |
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| 20:26.56 | johnkeates | does the debian aws fai cloud image have special modules for the hostname? or just the standard ones |
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| 20:29.46 | aexl | https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image |
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| 20:52.03 | Joe_from_next_do | hi during the installation process of Debian, is there a way to add an additional package to the list of installing packages? |
| 20:52.12 | Joe_from_next_do | I tried googling but cannot find anything |
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| 20:59.41 | Lauxley | Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to protect a server against brute force, so i set PasswordAuthentication=no and usePam=no in the sshd config but I'm not sure it works i still see attempts in auth_log ? |
| 20:59.54 | aexl | Joe_from_next_do: look for taskel |
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| 21:03.12 | johnkeates | @Lauxley attackers don't care what you specify, they're going to try anyway |
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| 21:04.07 | Lauxley | @johnkeates, meaning ssh will output a line in auth.log even if the attempt itself is rejected ? |
| 21:04.12 | johnkeates | yes |
| 21:04.38 | Lauxley | johnkeates, ok thank you, then how do i know it works ? |
| 21:04.53 | johnkeates | you ssh into the machine yourself and try your password |
| 21:04.59 | ellyacht | can someone please tell me where chromium created default.keyring? like which directory? or is it part of gnome-keyring? |
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| 21:05.12 | johnkeates | ellyacht: part of gnome-keyring |
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| 21:05.37 | Lauxley | @johnkeates, i don't have a password I use rsa which is why i wanted to just disable everything else for simplicity sake (I'm a noob) |
| 21:05.55 | johnkeates | Lauxley: well, using a password is how you test it, it's what the attackers do |
| 21:06.22 | Joe_from_next_do | aexl: hmmm I do not see how I can add a separate package to it |
| 21:06.25 | johnkeates | Lauxley: if you want to know what your server is telling the client, use your ssh client in verbose mode for more information (i.e. ssh -vvv |
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| 21:06.54 | johnkeates | it might list the supported authentication methods and if keyboard-interactive etc. are not there then your server will always reject passwords |
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| 21:07.58 | johnkeates | @aexl the debian cloud page has no useful information :( |
| 21:08.46 | aloo_shu | Joe_from_next_do: I guess *during* the install, all you could do is having the pkgs handy, and, having picked 'expert' install, switching in a shell session. Pre-install, you could remaster the .iso, or fiddle with the preseed file. I've not tried any, except following mintppc's suggestions for getting a mintppc install from a compatible debian .iso |
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| 21:08.59 | ellyacht | johnkeates: ok when I installed chromium and launched it, it asked for me to create a password for the keyring, I wasn't paying attention and just clicked cancel three times and now when I launch chromium it doesn't ask me to do that but I would like it to so I can utilize the password function... |
| 21:09.19 | lenarhoyt | Hi, I'm on Raspbian and I'm trying to connect a Wi-Fi USB at start-up. dhclient throws a "No such device" during boot. If I physically re-plug the Wi-Fi dongle, it works. It seems dhclient is not waiting for the USB devices to be fully started up? |
| 21:09.26 | johnkeates | ellyacht: try accessing the password options in chrome, it should try again |
| 21:09.27 | lenarhoyt | (stretch) |
| 21:09.37 | johnkeates | @lenarhoyt |
| 21:09.42 | johnkeates | @lenarhoyt try the pi channels :) |
| 21:09.48 | johnkeates | !dpkg raspbian |
| 21:09.49 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 21:10.14 | johnkeates | it's probably a common issue there |
| 21:10.27 | Lauxley | @johnkeates, ok debug show me that publickeyfield and then 'No more authentication methods to try.' so i guess it works, thank you very much for your time |
| 21:10.34 | Joe_from_next_do | aloo_shu: aah.. |
| 21:10.35 | ellyacht | johnkeates: I tried using seahorse to find the default.keyring but I couldn't. I'll try accessing password in chromium tho |
| 21:11.09 | Joe_from_next_do | aloo_shu: what a tough cookie! |
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| 21:12.11 | johnkeates | Lauxley: cool, ssh in verbose mode usually shows that stuff, good to know it shows the right data in your case as well :) |
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| 21:59.43 | johnkeates | aexl: i mean cloud-init module; it has two by default cc_update_hostname and cc_set_hostname |
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| 22:01.30 | aexl | oof |
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| 22:02.37 | johnkeates | but looking around in the salsa repo I don't see much of cloud-init alterations, so I'll investigate outside of the FAI config repo :) |
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| 22:05.25 | aexl | true. so i would presume if there are no alterations it's just the standard modules |
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| 22:41.38 | areyouloco | I want to get debian-installer selections to create a preseed file. And according to this https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apbs03.html.en I can use debconf-get-selections --installer >> file but debconf-get-selections is missing on image firmware-9.8.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 22:42.13 | areyouloco | I am still doing the instalation it's downloading files. Will it be avaliable at the end? |
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| 22:42.25 | areyouloco | Or is it a bug that's it's missing |
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| 23:14.07 | GrizzlyAdams | so I've followed https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/NVIDIA/Jetson-TK1 to install u-boot 2016.11+dfsg1-4 and then install debian on the internal emmc. but after installing the kernel hangs at first boot :( |
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| 23:21.00 | ksk | totally no idea of nvidia foo, but what does it say? :) |
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| 23:21.18 | ksk | did you remote the "quiet" parameter from bootloader to get an output? |
| 23:21.25 | ksk | s/remote/remove |
| 23:21.34 | GrizzlyAdams | yeah, there is zero output from the kernel. |
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| 23:22.23 | GrizzlyAdams | i'm about to try loading the installer kernel with the installed fs as a rescue |
| 23:22.51 | ksk | !chroot if you need any help with that ;) |
| 23:22.56 | ksk | !chroot |
| 23:22.56 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
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| 23:23.26 | GrizzlyAdams | yeah, chroot is another option if this fails. |
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| 23:45.41 | Vision | is there an ETA of 10 perhaps? best guess? |
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| 23:48.02 | papiiii | what's the best way to upgrade chromium to latest version |
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| 23:48.40 | papiiii | My chromium version is 70 but due to recent security issues 72 should be mandatory |
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| 23:49.10 | papiiii | when running apt upgrade it says that I'm at the newest version |
| 23:49.11 | papiiii | wut do |
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| 23:49.50 | dvs | ,v chromium |
| 23:49.51 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 70.0.3538.110-1~deb9u1; sid: 72.0.3626.53-1; buster: 72.0.3626.109-1; stretch-security: 72.0.3626.122-1~deb9u1 |
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| 23:51.29 | papiiii | when can we expect 72 on stretch |
| 23:51.49 | papiiii | do you know how long does it take them to push the update to stretch |
| 23:51.53 | dvs | !wwbr |
| 23:51.53 | dpkg | Debian 10 "Buster" start the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/04/msg00006.html |
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| 23:55.54 | JordiGH | Uhhhh... |
| 23:56.01 | JordiGH | my /var/lib/dpkg/status file is missing. |
| 23:56.06 | JordiGH | Is that, like.... bad? |
| 23:56.14 | JordiGH | The one file that keeps track of all installed packages? |
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| 23:57.43 | nkuttler | JordiGH: do you still have status-old? |
| 23:57.47 | JordiGH | nkuttler: Yeah. |
| 23:58.06 | nkuttler | JordiGH: how did the file go missing? |
| 23:59.05 | nkuttler | status-old is a backup, but your database will probably be inconsistent if you simple use it |
| 23:59.08 | JordiGH | Earlier today I made my system unbootable. |
| 23:59.24 | JordiGH | After messing around with grub-efi and stuff, I made it bootable again. |
| 23:59.41 | JordiGH | So I booted back in. |
| 23:59.46 | nkuttler | /var/lib/dpkg/status has nothing to do with booting |
| 23:59.49 | JordiGH | something must have been off... |
