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| 00:02.18 | zophyx | hi |
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| 00:04.26 | zophyx | can i send email from my laptop using my hotels' wireless to gmail.com ?, or does gmail.com reject private cable ip addresses ? |
| 00:04.29 | zophyx | hmm ? |
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| 00:04.42 | ikerDePount | Hey |
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| 00:05.55 | ikerDePount | I'm having a issue on stretch. I deleted a folder but it still comes back. |
| 00:05.58 | bionade24 | zophyx: Why should they do so? Otherwise use VPN |
| 00:06.40 | bionade24 | ikerDePount: Script generated? |
| 00:06.49 | zophyx | bionade24: i can't email to gmail.com from my linode.com vps either |
| 00:07.28 | zophyx | also |
| 00:07.31 | mvaenskae | zophyx: running your email service? |
| 00:07.32 | bla | You can most certainly mail them. They can mark it as SPAM though. |
| 00:07.40 | zophyx | exim4 |
| 00:08.24 | mvaenskae | i assume that is a program; i am more talking of whether you are self-hosting emails on your own domain or trying to use gmail services with your own account |
| 00:08.26 | zophyx | mail -s test_mail account@gmail.com .... |
| 00:08.27 | bionade24 | My own mail server is accepted on Gmail |
| 00:08.39 | zophyx | darn |
| 00:08.50 | polman | æ |
| 00:09.04 | bionade24 | Did you set the DNS records for DKIM? |
| 00:09.24 | zophyx | bionade24: don't know what that is |
| 00:09.58 | bionade24 | DKIM signing by your mail sever (like PGP sign) |
| 00:10.17 | bionade24 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DomainKeys_Identified_Mail |
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| 00:14.09 | zophyx | bionade24: oh, i see my hotel sent emails are in the spam folder |
| 00:14.10 | srukle | SPF might be easier to setup first. DKIM will take some effort. |
| 00:14.43 | srukle | In particular, SPF, DKIM, and DMARC are used to verify emails. |
| 00:14.44 | zophyx | that is actually progress :) |
| 00:15.56 | zophyx | bla: oh, i see my hotel sent emails are in the spam folder |
| 00:16.23 | bla | zophyx: to do it "easily" - drop the exim. Use smtps to mail mail using a generic account over SMTP - this can be even a GMAIL account. |
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| 00:16.37 | bla | zophyx: should work better for devices on the move like laptops in hotel wifis |
| 00:16.44 | srukle | In GMail, can you check the source of the email to determine why it was sent to your spam? Generally email services will have meta data that explains why it was sorted to junk. |
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| 00:20.31 | zophyx | bla: sure, i've done that, but using exim4 is more interesting and gmail has a page about setting up SPF for domains |
| 00:21.07 | zophyx | thanks for the clues ! |
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| 00:22.10 | zophyx | https://support.google.com/a/answer/33786?hl=en <-- is where i'm at |
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| 00:22.51 | zophyx | i might build a tutorial page about this for debian users |
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| 00:34.08 | srukle | Fortunately it's not too complicated unless you care about general security. :) |
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| 01:05.55 | bingbotboom | how do we get an irc cloak |
| 01:06.21 | bingbotboom | I'm in #freenode asking.. |
| 01:07.54 | rabbitear_sdf | tor? |
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| 01:08.26 | icarious | Is there a live installer of Debian? |
| 01:08.57 | themill | there are live images and there are installer images. (installing via the live image is not recommended) |
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| 01:09.51 | icarious | themill: Yes I am aware of the live images. Was curious if were any based on the likes of Ubiquity / Calamares |
| 01:10.05 | zophyx | themill: oooh, what you just said is provacative |
| 01:10.16 | zophyx | ! |
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| 01:11.25 | zophyx | themill: no reflection upon you you is intended, but i would think that the live installer would be a shining element in the debian community |
| 01:11.58 | themill | only if people volunteer to fix bugs |
| 01:12.04 | zophyx | themill: heh |
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| 01:14.04 | zophyx | themill: is there any scuttlebut about galliumos ? |
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| 01:16.51 | zophyx | i had to buy a $10.88 usb keyboard to use with 2.1 to install 3.0 alpha heh heh, i love diversity and chaos !!! |
| 01:17.21 | themill | Wrong channel? |
| 01:18.06 | zophyx | but this $150 chromebook ubuntu/franken/deb system rocks, and we owe it all to debian |
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| 01:20.53 | zophyx | i notice that when i search the internet for things about debian far less noob crap comes up than the flood of idiocy about ubuntu that existed a couple of years ago |
| 01:21.18 | zophyx | but, i do tend to digress from the channel topic, sorry |
| 01:22.08 | zophyx | i am glad that the commuinty of linux matures and expands |
| 01:22.39 | zophyx | community |
| 01:23.37 | zophyx | not to be confused with the out of vogue communism references that are sorely missing from public discussion |
| 01:23.47 | zophyx | but i'll stop |
| 01:24.25 | binaryhermit | I think the reason that's like that is that ubuntu has more of a reputation of being user friendly and/or polished so it attracts noobs |
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| 01:25.34 | zophyx | of course, i love the diversity that is inherent in the gnu/linux philosophy |
| 01:26.16 | zophyx | evabody gets their jollies and it makes the universe a better pkace to be in |
| 01:26.31 | binaryhermit | I've used ubuntu, and I have a server that's still ubuntu, but I'm moving toward debian |
| 01:28.20 | bingbotboom | mother debian |
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| 01:32.18 | zophyx | i have'nt explored the deep downs of ubutntu, so for the essential build capabilities and server capabilities i can only rely upon the community to police any departures from security or reliability |
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| 01:34.02 | zophyx | i left my $1200 hp laptop in arizona and am forced to gallium/ubuntu on a $150 chromebook |
| 01:34.08 | zophyx | arghh |
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| 01:35.27 | zophyx | heh, ubut-you or something :) |
| 01:35.36 | LikWidChz | anyone able to assist with a weird putting a wireless card into monitor mode question? |
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| 01:36.35 | zophyx | using wireshark can be a pleasure |
| 01:36.54 | LikWidChz | yeah thats one thing I need to get better using lots of ish. |
| 01:37.29 | zophyx | wireshark can teach you what you don't know :) |
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| 01:45.37 | aruna | hi running Debian 8.11 Jessie I can't get my usb wifi adapter to work. Any ideas how to go about things please ? lspci shows RTL8111/8168/8411. ifconfig -a shows etho and lo but no wlan0 |
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| 03:03.36 | justthedoctor | Hello, i could use a little help if at all possible? i am running a debian 9 vps server install from linode and i am trying to self compile somethings i need compiled on my server.. First i am trying to compile gcc-4.9.0 |
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| 03:07.31 | peylight | Hello @justthedoctor, Yes please answer the question. |
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| 03:08.02 | justthedoctor | what question peylight ? |
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| 03:15.34 | jmcnaught | justthedoctor: hello, you don't need to ask to ask. If you provide a detailed question someone might see it and be able to help. |
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| 03:26.11 | justthedoctor | jmcnaught: im trying to compile gcc 4.9.0 from source on debian 9, without having to use apt-get and i want to install it to a specific dir but i cant find any guides to help me with it and when i try to do it how i see, i get a couple errors.. |
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| 03:31.48 | justthedoctor | ok so in the gcc-4.9.0 dir (source code) i did ./configure --prefix /home/user/deps/gcc4.9.0 and i get this error |
| 03:31.49 | justthedoctor | http://paste.debian.net/1075356/ |
| 03:32.12 | justthedoctor | can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 03:33.44 | justthedoctor | ugh that didnt even give the error in it, sorry.. |
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| 03:33.57 | justthedoctor | configure: error: in `/home/*/uncompiled-source/gcc-4.9.0': |
| 03:33.57 | justthedoctor | configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 03:35.28 | jmcnaught | justthedoctor: you probably need to install the build-essential package which will pull in a few things including a C compiler (gcc) |
| 03:36.13 | justthedoctor | will i be able to compile to a specific dir (Not global just what would be needed if i point the compiler to the proper directories? |
| 03:37.01 | jmcnaught | the configure script probably takes a --prefix=/foo/bar argument |
| 03:38.16 | jmcnaught | why do you need to compile gcc 4.9? maybe it would be easier to add jessie (debian 8) repos and install gcc-4.9 from there? |
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| 03:38.51 | justthedoctor | configure: error: I suspect your system does not have 32-bit developement libraries |
| 03:38.56 | justthedoctor | how can i remedy that? |
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| 03:39.17 | justthedoctor | i want to compile all the deps for the main app i am trying to compile |
| 03:39.20 | themill | justthedoctor: out of interest, why are you trying to do any of this? |
| 03:39.25 | themill | details would help |
| 03:39.29 | justthedoctor | but i dont want to override default system settings to do it |
| 03:40.03 | justthedoctor | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.26 | jmabsd | Here comes a really exotic question: I have a Mac Pro desktop computer, with a Geforce card in it, that the Mac's UEFI firmware will NOT launch at boot to use as boot console. Accordingly then, Linux also will NOT use it as boot console, BUT, Debian's X will use the Geforce as monitor. Is there any way I can make Debian initialize and use the Geforce card as monitor also for the boot console? |
| 03:40.55 | themill | justthedoctor: so your end goal is miniupnpc? |
| 03:41.05 | justthedoctor | no, |
| 03:41.55 | justthedoctor | my end goal is to compile a crypto-currency daemon without using apt-get install to install what deps deb9 installs because debian 9 has higher versions of what this needs. |
| 03:42.49 | justthedoctor | fixed my gcc problem |
| 03:42.52 | justthedoctor | sudo apt-get install gcc-multilib did t |
| 03:42.53 | justthedoctor | it* |
| 03:43.27 | themill | sounds like a bad plan - given cryptocurrencies seem to last about 10 min each, if the thing you're compiling can't cope with packages in stretch because they're too new, it's definitely time to walk away |
| 03:44.07 | justthedoctor | themill: i know what version to install and get apt-get to give me the proper versions, but my END END END goal is to have a directory with multiple versions of all those deps installed, so i can attempt to upgrade the crypto in question |
| 03:44.47 | justthedoctor | themill: im trying to make it so that the one in question will work with recent versions of the dependancies |
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| 03:50.02 | Old_Dog | is a brand new great-grandpa again! |
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| 03:54.59 | themill | GasparZJhones_: this isn't working out so well for you... |
| 03:55.35 | GasparZJhones_ | Yes :( |
| 03:56.01 | justthedoctor | ugh apparently it still failed. |
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| 05:09.32 | tp43_ | Hi, I am having trouble install nvidia drivers, it says unmet dependencies |
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| 05:19.01 | tp43_ | First I enabled backports as it said to do, then installed nvidia-detect and then it said to install nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver but when I try to install it is "unmet dependencies". |
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| 05:21.07 | themill | !bat |
| 05:21.07 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 05:21.51 | tp43_ | thx themill I got it, I didn't need backports, I just needed to add contrib non-free to the existing stretch repos in my sources.list |
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| 05:55.31 | jm_ | Yep, I cant get it done, install nvidia drivers with cuda. I have old one. nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver |
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| 05:59.08 | jm_ | reboot, brbr |
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| 06:21.09 | mvaenskae | how can i find out what upstream version a debian package uses? |
| 06:22.59 | mvaenskae | ah, found this luckily :) https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#version |
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| 06:29.54 | justthedoctor | i am trying to compile gcc-4.9.0 on debian 9 https://pastebin.com/0PL3iyyn this is where i get an error and am stuck any help would be majorly appericated |
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| 06:37.27 | jelly | justthedoctor, help that isn't "why not use debian 8 if it's gcc-4.9 you need"? |
| 06:37.56 | justthedoctor | because i want deb 9? |
| 06:38.10 | jelly | and you want it because...? |
| 06:38.19 | jelly | looks at the backlog |
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| 07:49.00 | shtrb | And if you can just use debian to access the resources |
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| 08:36.10 | tp43_ | anyone can help me setup cuda for blender3d? I have legacy 340xx driver installed |
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| 08:46.33 | tp43_ | I have legacy 340xx driver installed. How can I verify it is being used? When I open blender3d, it doesn't have cuda option. |
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| 08:57.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | you should probably check if the correct kernel module is installed with lsmod ⦠|
| 08:57.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you can see what files it opens and if they are the correct library files with strace -f -e open blender 2>&1 | less |
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| 09:03.23 | tp43_ | CutMeOwnThroat, not sure, very cryptic info |
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| 09:03.40 | tp43_ | lsmod shows me there nvidia |
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| 09:11.58 | Omarian | hi |
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| 09:44.40 | aZz7eCh | i have an external drive .. it is encrypted and requires log in info to access it. well, it did. I seem to have checked a box to always remember the credentials for the encrypted volume and so plug it in, up it comes ... :/ |
| 09:45.00 | aZz7eCh | where in gnome can I undo this so that it goes back to wanting credentials when plugged into my pc |
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| 09:46.28 | indomitable | aZz7eCh, LOL |
| 09:46.32 | indomitable | :DDDDD |
| 09:46.39 | indomitable | point of encryption, gone |
| 09:46.55 | aZz7eCh | ikr |
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| 09:48.32 | aZz7eCh | okay i got it... it had a device name i wasnt recognizing in Passwords & Keys |
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| 09:48.37 | L4231 | Hello |
| 09:48.39 | aZz7eCh | sorted. TY |
| 09:48.54 | L4231 | how to check many file availability with curl or wget |
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| 09:49.13 | L4231 | i have one link like a http://ip/bsyd/0-5000 |
| 09:49.27 | L4231 | i want to check which file like 0-5000 is availability |
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| 11:28.40 | zamuro | A ver, compadre... si no sabes seguir una simple instrucción de "cámbiale el nombre a un archivo", no voy a seguir dedicando tiempo en ti. |
| 11:28.51 | zamuro | Google tiene chorrocientos mil tutoriales para eso. |
| 11:29.49 | zamuro | Renombra el archivo, actualiza tus fuentes, busca en google tutoriales para actualizar debian y cuando tengas una pregunta específica, vienes y preguntas. |
| 11:30.11 | zamuro | Al menos ten la decencia de leer un poco antes de pedir que te vengam a hacer el trabajo por ti. |
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| 11:31.23 | zamuro | No te sirven de nada porque wheezy está fuera de soporte. |
| 11:31.30 | zamuro | Actualiza al menos a jessie. |
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| 11:33.28 | SwedeMike | !es | zamuro |
| 11:33.28 | dpkg | | zamuro: Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. |
| 11:33.38 | zamuro | lol!!! |
| 11:33.45 | zamuro | Wrong server. Sorry. |
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| 11:45.31 | aruna | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:46.10 | indomitable | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
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| 12:11.39 | warai_otoko2 | aruna: there exists a realtek-firmware package in the repos if I remember correctly |
| 12:11.49 | shtrb | aruna, missing firmware |
| 12:12.10 | warai_otoko2 | aruna: just check if your adapter is supported by this package |
| 12:12.20 | shtrb | dmest |grep -i firmware would give you information about what file is missing |
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| 12:13.48 | martin-_-_ | hi, I got from one file libattr libattr.so.1 and libattr.so.1.1.0 what does this number means? |
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| 12:13.55 | martin-_-_ | and shouldn't there any libattr.so ? |
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| 12:15.53 | shtrb | ,v file libattr.so |
| 12:15.54 | judd | Package: file on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.11-2+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 5.11-2+deb7u9; jessie: 1:5.22+15-2+deb8u4; stretch-security: 1:5.30-1+deb9u1; stretch: 1:5.30-1+deb9u2; sid: 1:5.35-2; buster: 1:5.35-4 |
| 12:16.00 | shtrb | martin-_-_, ^ |
| 12:16.22 | shtrb | !divert |
| 12:16.22 | dpkg | Don't try to convince dpkg to overwrite files and don't start playing with "--force" options for dpkg. Instead, "divert" one of the files out of the way so that there is no conflict. See man dpkg-divert and also http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html. Working with the package management system is much easier than trying to work against it. |
| 12:17.33 | Tayo | Is there a debian meta packages which combines all the packages necessary to Upgrade Mesa and OpenGL? Seems a lot of packages are involved in this process and i am not able to find them out |
| 12:19.20 | martin-_-_ | i build the lib from source and it created this lib.so lib.so.1 lib.so.1.1 and so on |
| 12:19.42 | martin-_-_ | so I'm curious whats the attend of this variations of lib.so.* |
| 12:19.55 | martin-_-_ | -attend = purpose |
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| 13:25.25 | ychaouche | Hello #debian |
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| 13:54.54 | petn-randall | martin-_-_: Those are so versions. Every time the ABI changes, the so version gets bumped. This allows several library versions to be installed in parallel. |
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| 14:20.15 | hays | is there a timeline set for buster moving to stable |
| 14:20.22 | hays | or it a when its ready thing |
| 14:21.42 | hays | forgive me if this is the wrong place-- the #debian-next channel is invite only |
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| 14:22.45 | dvs | !wwbr |
| 14:22.46 | dpkg | Debian 10 "Buster" start the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/04/msg00006.html |
| 14:22.59 | dvs | ooooooo! A timeline! |
| 14:24.43 | hays | great, thanks! |
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| 14:27.13 | ychaouche | guys, I want to enable unattended upgrades on my debian server, I installed unattended-upgrades and apt-listchanges, modified a config file for unattended-updates and ran unattended-updates -d, it seems it stopped on first error of first package and didn't try to upgrade the other upgradable packages. Is this normal behavior ? here's /var/log/unattended-upgrades/upattended-upgrades.log : https://clbin.com/22rd8 |
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| 14:27.48 | ychaouche | Also, do I still have to run apt-get update manually from times to times ? |
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| 14:51.21 | CHIrl | how can i make it so that firefox can't crash debian? i mean, restrict its' resource access and such to a reasonable amount |
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| 14:58.38 | ychaouche | CHIrl, are you using KDE ? |
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| 14:59.33 | ychaouche | there's ksysguard which let you renice all firefox processes and repriotize its I/O |
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| 14:59.38 | CHIrl | mate. if it would help, i can switch to xfce or similar |
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| 15:00.28 | CHIrl | is not moving to KDE lol |
| 15:00.53 | ychaouche | CHIrl, I think you can acheive the same with htop though |
| 15:00.58 | ychaouche | there's a key for that |
| 15:01.17 | ychaouche | htop works in the console with ncurses UI so you should be good no matter DE you're using. |
| 15:01.27 | CHIrl | alright i'll look into it |
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| 17:19.43 | atahabaki | hello, I'm searching for Google Summer of Code for developing open source project for debian. |
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| 17:21.36 | atahabaki | Oh, Hello anyone here? |
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| 17:38.32 | avalchev` | Hi *, I want to create apt package from https://github.com/arduino/go-apt-client |
| 17:38.47 | avalchev` | It's APL |
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| 17:39.16 | avalchev` | Is it a problem to create a copy into salsa.debian.org |
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| 17:43.04 | sokrat | what could be the reason that I am unable to connect to this channel using my client in android? |
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| 17:46.41 | EdePopede | sokrat, you are here now. what doesn't work as expected? |
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| 17:47.17 | sokrat | now i am here using my pc, android client problem still persists |
| 17:48.24 | EdePopede | ah. so, can you connect to the network on android? |
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| 17:54.22 | sokrat | nope, it could be that i m using an SSL port to connect to freenode? |
| 17:54.42 | indomitable | sokrat, what issue are you having? o_O |
| 17:54.57 | indomitable | sokrat, you might have to be logged in to be in #debian, I don't know |
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| 17:56.29 | sokrat | logged into where? |
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| 17:58.23 | bla | Check the mode of the channel. Maybe you need to register with nickserv. |
| 17:58.31 | bla | I'm not sure; I'm registered though. |
| 17:59.14 | indomitable | hmmm I don't thikn you have to be |
| 17:59.16 | indomitable | he isn't registered right now |
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| 17:59.27 | indomitable | sokrat, is it just this channel? |
| 17:59.31 | indomitable | maybe you wereb anned lol |
| 17:59.58 | bla | Heh. There's some ban list (20 entries). ;d |
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| 18:00.57 | sokrat | for instance, i managed to get into #python channel |
| 18:01.12 | indomitable | sokrat, you're probably banned or prevented due to some network thing then :p gateway |
| 18:01.37 | ciridae | hi |
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| 18:01.45 | bla | sokrat: whats your nick on the android? |
| 18:01.52 | sokrat | same |
| 18:01.57 | sokrat | sokrat |
| 18:01.59 | indomitable | what's your IP on android? :P |
| 18:03.22 | bla | Eeeeh. Can't have THE SAME nick. You're probably not on freenode then. |
| 18:03.38 | bla | Or you're not currently logged. If so - can't check. |
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| 18:08.00 | sokrat | changed it to sokrat1, but it then gave me thenickname sokrat2, ip is 176.88.90.85 |
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| 18:16.01 | karlpinc | avalchev`: Ask on the #debian-mentors channel. |
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| 18:51.09 | karlpinc | avalchev`: Looks like #debian-mentors is on irc.otfc.net, not freenode. |
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| 19:16.46 | bipul | Hi. |
| 19:17.18 | bipul | How to install Debian server on Virtualbox silently. Anyone know the way? |
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| 19:28.05 | bla | Hashicorp packer + debian installer seed file? |
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| 19:28.21 | indomitable | bipul, docker? :P |
| 19:28.45 | bla | (preseed it's called). |
| 19:28.51 | bipul | docker no i am using Virtualbox |
| 19:29.25 | bipul | bla oh thank you, i know but do you know any working example where i can learn and implement? |
| 19:29.47 | bla | I can paste you on /query my packer config |
| 19:29.54 | bla | preseeds you can find on the net I guess. |
| 19:30.05 | bla | Want? |
| 19:30.10 | bipul | yes |
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| 19:33.42 | bipul | bla Your doing with packer, i am looking someway to put preseed file in Virtualbox, and call the unattended installation. |
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| 19:35.01 | bla | You can put it on install media |
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| 19:35.37 | bipul | You mean i need to modify the .iso image? |
| 19:35.38 | bla | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed <- take a look here. |
| 19:36.02 | bla | You can also use a webserver and just put URL to the installed during boot |
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| 19:36.12 | bla | That is what packer does. |
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| 19:36.48 | bipul | ok great thank you. |
| 19:37.30 | bipul | bla And i'm looking for offical link where i can download .iso file for Debian server |
| 19:38.00 | bla | There's no "Debian server" - It's just Debian really. |
| 19:38.15 | bla | You can find netinst images for example for current stable (stretch) release. |
| 19:38.20 | bipul | How to use debian as a server |
| 19:38.24 | bipul | ? |
| 19:38.26 | bipul | ok |
| 19:38.33 | bla | Uhm. Normally. Put server stuff on it. |
| 19:38.35 | bla | :) |
| 19:38.51 | bla | Maybe refrain from playing games on it. |
| 19:39.00 | bipul | ok |
| 19:39.01 | bipul | :) |
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| 19:39.10 | iLOVEgermanSLUTS | i <3 juicy cunts |
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| 19:51.49 | sokrat | is there a way to turn off user login/off notifications in a channel? |
| 19:51.56 | indomitable | in which client? :p |
| 19:52.25 | indomitable | bla I am trying to find games to play on my raspberry pi via ssh |
| 19:52.35 | indomitable | I might have to make some since there aren't a lot of good ones around |
| 19:53.28 | sokrat | atomic - i managed to connect in android |
| 19:54.02 | sokrat | put in a non-ssl port made it work |
| 19:54.15 | indomitable | ...that isn't *it* *working* lol |
| 19:54.16 | indomitable | XD |
| 19:54.23 | indomitable | that's you leaving your communications wide open for the world to see |
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| 19:56.38 | sokrat | let me try again |
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| 19:58.59 | aPpYe | is it lightdm that handles the brightness (or overlay?) that goes over the background image on the lock screen? I would like my backgrounds to display at full brightness. |
| 20:01.40 | bla | indomitable: nethack though. |
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| 20:06.46 | indomitable | I mean sure |
| 20:06.50 | indomitable | but I want something different |
| 20:06.59 | indomitable | I want a cyberpunk-y type of nethack-y thing |
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| 20:17.39 | johnjay | does the latest debian handbook discuss systemd in detail? |
| 20:17.46 | johnjay | or is it the other one i need to read |
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| 20:25.48 | tdn | I want to host a simple IRC server on a local network. Which package is easiest to get working? I just need something simple, and it is not going on the internet. |
| 20:25.55 | tdn | Debian 9 |
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| 20:31.01 | EdePopede | tdn: i'd go for unreal, since it is the most popular one (could help with support) |
| 20:31.29 | EdePopede | i also only had it running here to look at it years ago, but even building from source wasn't an issue |
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| 20:39.46 | kieto | Hi, can anybody help me fix this? I've uninstalled some package dependencies and I think one of them is needed to upgrade the system https://pastebin.com/S1DzZQ24 |
| 20:40.06 | kieto | I've removed iputils-ping and resolvconf, maybe one of those is responsible for these errors? |
| 20:40.10 | jmcnaught | johnjay: I think both the reference and the handbook have a pretty light intro to systemd. I think this blog series is pretty good: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/#thesystemdforadministratorsblogseries |
| 20:40.58 | kieto | I can't resolve any hostname |
| 20:42.01 | jmcnaught | kieto: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 20:42.11 | johnjay | thanks jmcnaught |
| 20:43.07 | kieto | jmcnaught: https://pastebin.com/bmk6mjte |
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| 20:45.06 | jmcnaught | kieto: do you have a nameserver of some sort running on localhost? Maybe you did before you removed some packages. Have you tried refreshing DHCP? |
| 20:46.01 | kieto | jmcnaught: I've already rebooted the machine twice and the same errors are happening. But I don't have "ping" installed anymore, that's why I'm wondering if the problem is there |
| 20:47.59 | jmcnaught | This is unrelated to not having ping. Your /etc/resolv.conf file is telling everything on your system to look up DNS domains on localhost, and clearly your computer doesn't have anything running there (anymore) |
| 20:48.48 | kieto | jmcnaught: that makes sense, since I've just uninstalled pi-hole https://pi-hole.net/ and maybe I need to find a way to restore it |
| 20:49.21 | jmcnaught | kieto: how is your network connection configured? Can you make a paste of your /etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 20:50.43 | kieto | jmcnaught: okay, that fixed it! I just replaced the nameserver with the DNS servers stored on my router (the same ones from the Arch Linux machine from where I'm writing this) and it can now resolve :) |
| 20:50.51 | kieto | thanks a lot! |
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| 20:59.13 | tdn | EdePopede, it does not seem to be included in the packages. |
| 20:59.25 | tdn | EdePopede, would really like something simple that just works and that is apt-get install'able. |
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| 21:02.38 | kieto | jmcnaught: hmmm, a reboot of the machine has been overwritten and it's showing 127.0.0.1 again |
| 21:02.59 | kieto | *has overwritten the resolv.conf file |
| 21:03.27 | jhutchins | Is there a reason to enable any SSL Protocol besides TLSv1.2? |
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| 21:04.03 | dvs | isn't there a v1.3? |
| 21:04.07 | jmcnaught | kieto: it looks like you're using dhcpcd which Debian doesn't use by default. Are you using raspian? |
| 21:04.24 | kieto | jmcnaught: yes, specifically OSMC |
| 21:04.36 | jhutchins | dvs: Not sure it's supported. |
| 21:04.41 | dvs | ah |
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| 21:05.20 | jmcnaught | kieto: you're better off asking in the channel for your distro then since it configures networks differently than how Debian does |
| 21:05.41 | jhutchins | dvs: You may be thinking of SSL 3 which is insecure. |
| 21:05.50 | dvs | probably |
| 21:05.55 | kieto | jmcnaught: okay, I'll ask there, thanks :) but I think if I follow this article I'll be able to fix it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dhcpcd#/etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:06.13 | dvs | I thought TLS 1.0 and 1.1 are considered insecure as well. |
| 21:08.38 | jhutchins | dvs: That's how I understand it. Apparently there is a TLS 1.3, but with limited support and not in OpenSSL. |
| 21:09.06 | jmcnaught | For SMTP where a connection will revert to unencrypted if a compatible cipher cannot be negotiated, TLS 1.0 and 1.1 are better than nothing |
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| 21:10.25 | jmcnaught | openssl 1.1.0 supports tls 1.3 i believe |
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| 21:20.35 | jhutchins | ,v openssl |
| 21:20.36 | judd | Package: openssl on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u20; wheezy-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb7u4; jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u8; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u8; jessie-backports: 1.0.2l-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.0j-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.1.0j-1~deb9u1; sid: 1.1.1a-1; buster: 1.1.1b-1 |
| 21:21.07 | jhutchins | I'm on stretch and it's not listed as an option. |
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| 21:26.37 | jmcnaught | sorry my mistake it's openssl 1.1.1 that has tls1.3 support: https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/TLS1.3 |
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| 21:43.50 | bw__ | hello. I've been trying to sign the repositories for system upgrade over the last few months without success and i decided to ask for help here |
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| 21:44.11 | SerajewelKS | "sign the repositories?" |
| 21:44.34 | bw__ | yes they aren't signed for some reason |
| 21:44.44 | SerajewelKS | what repositories? |
| 21:44.52 | bw__ | SerajewelKS: apt-get update says: |
| 21:44.53 | bw__ | GPG error: http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian stretch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY |
| 21:45.13 | SerajewelKS | okay so the repositories _are_ signed |
| 21:45.19 | SerajewelKS | you just don't have the key to verify the signatures |
| 21:45.35 | bw__ | SerajewelKS: yes, thanks |
| 21:46.00 | SerajewelKS | apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
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| 21:46.54 | bw__ | according to apt the package is allready to the newest version |
| 21:47.05 | SerajewelKS | apt-get install debian-archive-keyring -t stretch |
| 21:47.26 | SerajewelKS | if that doesn't work, show us the output of "apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring" |
| 21:47.34 | bw__ | version is debian 9 |
| 21:48.18 | bw__ | debian-archive-keyring: |
| 21:48.19 | bw__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.20 | bw__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.22 | bw__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.23 | bw__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:48.58 | SerajewelKS | !paste |
| 21:48.59 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:49.09 | bw__ | oh. i thought my question was that dumb |
| 21:49.13 | SerajewelKS | does it give you the expected pubkey id? |
| 21:49.34 | SerajewelKS | (can you pastebin "apt-get update" output?) |
| 21:49.46 | SerajewelKS | because it sounds like the mirror might be compromised or something |
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| 21:50.08 | bw__ | apt-cache doesn't show any pubkey id |
| 21:50.27 | bw__ | how do i paste multiple lines here? |
| 21:50.40 | SerajewelKS | not apt-cache |
| 21:50.44 | SerajewelKS | "apt-get update" |
| 21:50.47 | SerajewelKS | !paste |
| 21:50.47 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:51.12 | SerajewelKS | if the expected key ID isn't 067E3C456BAE240ACEE88F6FEF0F382A1A7B6500 then something is amiss |
| 21:51.58 | bw__ | https://paste.debian.net/1075438/ |
| 21:52.43 | dvs | Isn't the ftp protocol obsolete now? |
| 21:53.03 | SerajewelKS | dvs: no. and it's not using FTP. |
| 21:53.14 | SerajewelKS | bw__: huh. it lists that you're missing EF0F382A1A7B6500. |
| 21:53.18 | SerajewelKS | which is the key i pasted. |
| 21:53.23 | SerajewelKS | bw__: can you pastebin "apt-key list" |
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| 21:54.27 | bw__ | https://paste.debian.net/1075439/ |
| 21:54.47 | SerajewelKS | lol yep the key is listed right there |
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| 21:55.10 | SerajewelKS | in fact all three are |
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| 21:55.21 | SerajewelKS | i've no idea why apt is complaining. the keys appear to be installed. |
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| 21:55.32 | bw__ | ok |
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| 21:56.45 | SerajewelKS | unfortunately i'm not sure how to diagnose further :( |
| 21:57.18 | SerajewelKS | "Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.at.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_main_i18n_Translation-en.bz2 - open (13: Permission denied)" is a bit worrying |
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| 21:57.38 | SerajewelKS | that sounds like you're either not running apt-get as root, or there's some disk issue |
| 21:58.05 | platypo | i am running apt-get with the su command |
| 21:58.08 | SerajewelKS | if it is a disk issue then all bets are off; the apt binary/libraries could be corrupt or something |
| 21:58.22 | jcb2016 | platypo: sudo or su ? |
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| 21:58.56 | platypo | su. df shows nothing more then 40% on the relevant partitions |
| 21:58.57 | SerajewelKS | root should not receive a permission denied error when opening any file on the system except in some special cases (/proc and /sys don't allow file creation at all for example) or if there's something bad going on with the disk |
| 21:59.11 | SerajewelKS | disk space isn't that relevant since the error would be different |
| 21:59.47 | platypo | i can try logging in as root on another tty |
| 21:59.47 | SerajewelKS | i don't know if it's a red herring or not but seeing "permission denied" when root tries to create a file sets off "something is fucky" bells in my head |
| 22:00.20 | SerajewelKS | i usually only see that when the filesystem is toast. you might reboot into maintenance mode (or boot from the installer CD) and fsck your filesystem(s). |
| 22:01.12 | SerajewelKS | dmesg might also have some clues |
| 22:01.40 | SerajewelKS | if it turns out that there is a problem with the filesystem then that _could_ explain the apt warnings; it's possible that apt or one of the keyring files is corrupt. hard to say. |
| 22:01.54 | SerajewelKS | and in that case you'd be better off restoring from a known good backup onto a clean system |
| 22:02.20 | SerajewelKS | but that's all speculation at this point |
| 22:02.52 | SerajewelKS | it's particularly odd that you only see that error for one file, which is what makes me think something is not good with the filesystem |
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| 22:04.57 | platypo | i see |
| 22:06.10 | platypo | i can cat all files in /var/lib/apt/lists as root in terminal without any error though |
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| 22:34.58 | dgriffi | bluetooth services suddenly stopped and won't start up again, even after reboots: " |
| 22:35.14 | dgriffi | "systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Bluetooth service" |
| 22:35.28 | dgriffi | no idea what the problem is and google isn't telling me anything useful |
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| 23:12.17 | platypo | SerajewelKS: hello. Another question: is it possible to run fsck in recovery mode on a mounted partition? |
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| 23:14.22 | platypo | you meant i should boot from a livestick or something |
| 23:14.45 | platypo | nvm |
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| 23:21.48 | ach_ | platypo, I do not think it is possible to run fsck on mounted partition, instead I will try to use "touch /forcefsck" to force fsck after reboot or maybe generating an initramfs using "dracut" and reboot linux with the command line "rd.break=pre-mount" |
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| 23:24.34 | platypo | ach_: cool workaround, thanks |
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| 23:27.18 | SerajewelKS | you can fsck a mounted partition if it's mounted read-only |
| 23:27.38 | SerajewelKS | and it's possible to remount things, so you can stop all services that write to the disk and remount / read-only, then fsck it |
| 23:27.43 | SerajewelKS | but if changes are made you'll probably have to reboot |
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