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| 17:42.45 | ws2k3 | im trying to run an executable but i get this error: ./libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by ./libstdc++.so.6) anyone an idea what this could be? |
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| 17:56.42 | jcrain | ws2k3: where did you get the executable from? not from a Debian package? |
| 17:57.37 | jcrain | I assume that there was a copy of 'libgcc_so.so.1' included somewhere in the folder with the executable |
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| 18:55.35 | dario^365c^ | ciao |
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| 18:55.41 | dpkg | dario^365c^: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 19:10.12 | annadane | concerning virtualenv... python comes with venv, is virtualenv packaged for debian essentially the same thing or...? |
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| 19:14.12 | annadane | well okay, more specifically venv comes with python 3 and virtualenv in debian is python 2 by default |
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| 19:15.22 | annadane | confusingly debian also has virtualenvwrapper |
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| 19:19.17 | jmcnaught | annadane: virtualenv existed before venv was added to python 3 |
| 19:19.27 | jmcnaught | they both do basically the same thing |
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| 19:24.28 | tmroland | hi, whats wrong with the debian servers? downloading packages or even updating apt sources takes ages |
| 19:24.33 | tmroland | kilobytes per sec is what im getting |
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| 19:24.55 | phazon | use a faster mirror |
| 19:25.26 | RandomGuyOnIrc | I am trying to install debian 9.8 to my dell lattitude e6440 (a laptop) and I get this prompt about missing firmware files |
| 19:25.35 | RandomGuyOnIrc | debian 9.8 install missing firmware files are: iwlwifi-6000g2b-6ucode |
| 19:25.54 | RandomGuyOnIrc | then it ask me if I want to load from removable media |
| 19:25.57 | RandomGuyOnIrc | I say yes |
| 19:26.13 | RandomGuyOnIrc | it waits 30 seconds, then ask me the same question |
| 19:26.25 | tmroland | and another issue, in kde , whats wrong with the font rendering? all fonts looks absolutely garbage at least compared to windows fonts. they're garbled, like missing dots/pixels, looks horrible like its broken |
| 19:26.42 | phazon | RandomGuyOnIrc: is the package actually on the key and in the proper location? |
| 19:26.43 | RandomGuyOnIrc | anyone know how to fix this? I guess I have to hit no, and then load the missing file later |
| 19:27.08 | jmcnaught | RandomGuyOnIrc: you can install firmware packages later if you're using ethernet to install |
| 19:27.18 | RandomGuyOnIrc | ok cool |
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| 19:27.30 | phazon | RandomGuyOnIrc: apt-offline also works |
| 19:28.00 | RandomGuyOnIrc | phazon: how do I check if the "packages is in the key" and find the "proper location"? |
| 19:28.31 | phazon | RandomGuyOnIrc: if you didnt copy the firmware files onto the usb device then it probably isnt going to find the thing when it prompts you |
| 19:28.38 | jmcnaught | RandomGuyOnIrc: the details are here, along with a link to a install ISO image containing many of the the non-free firmwares: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
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| 19:29.00 | RandomGuyOnIrc | ok thanks |
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| 19:30.12 | phazon | you place them either on the root directory, i.e.: / or you put them in /firmware |
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| 19:42.28 | annadane | python 2.7 is actually getting depreciated in virtualenv on jan 1 2020 so not sure what buster will do |
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| 19:44.52 | jmcnaught | according to the draft release notes for buster python 2.7 is deprecated and Debian hopes to drop it by bullseye: https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#deprecated-components |
| 19:44.55 | phazon | RandomGuyOnIrc: you can get the required firmware from p.d.o here: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download |
| 19:45.36 | annadane | it's fine, i can just start using python 3's venv if virtualenv in buster is still 2.7 |
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| 19:48.57 | RandomGuyOnIrc | if I choose to use set up encrypted lvm, can I have one partition encrypted, and another with a non encrypted type? |
| 19:49.54 | scx | RandomGuyOnIrc: Yes and no. |
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| 19:50.42 | RandomGuyOnIrc | ok, so if I choose encryption, all my logical drives will be encrypted |
| 19:50.45 | tmroland | hi |
| 19:50.48 | tmroland | tried switching debian mirror |
| 19:50.50 | tmroland | still same |
| 19:50.51 | tmroland | 50 kbps |
| 19:50.55 | scx | Yes: [LVM:[dmcrypt/LUKS:[part1]],[part2]], No: [dmcrypt/LUKS:[part1],[part2]] |
| 19:51.07 | RandomGuyOnIrc | thanks |
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| 19:51.42 | phazon | tmroland: maybe you have gremlins in your internets. also: please dont use the enter key as punctuation; try to keep it on one line. |
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| 19:55.50 | abrotman | tmroland: which mirror did you try? |
| 19:56.17 | tmroland | uk , local one, us |
| 19:56.25 | tmroland | ftp.uk.debian.org |
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| 20:21.52 | _abc_ | Hello. I would like to search for some src packages from wheezy, I can't find them in the usual places online. https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive stops at 6.0, wheezy was 7.0, there are still systems in use based on 7.0, some are important and not easily upgradeable. |
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| 20:22.16 | _abc_ | Does anyone know where the wheezy src archives are? Perhaps on a mirror site? I'm in Europe. |
| 20:23.37 | mishehu | Greets folks, I'm making a custom package for our debian 8 systems, and I would like it (tshark 3.0.1) to supercede and replace the existing ones on the system already, but I'm not having success. Might anybody know what my error is here in the control file? http://dpaste.com/19Z3RED |
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| 20:24.22 | tds | _abc_: I may be misremembering, but I think those got moved to archive.debian.org recently? |
| 20:24.54 | _abc_ | tds: As I was saying, they may have not arrived yet... the EOL was in 2018? |
| 20:26.05 | _abc_ | okay, it seems to be there in bin at least. |
| 20:26.16 | _abc_ | Let's see if I can find what I am really looking for, thanks so far. |
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| 20:30.16 | ChmEarl | mishehu, Replaces: wireshark-common (>= 1.12.1+g01b65bf-4+deb8u18), |
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| 20:32.11 | mishehu | ChmEarl: I had a hard time really understanding what the << was, ever example online used that, never what you're showing. I understant >= :-), but what is << ? |
| 20:32.57 | _abc_ | tds: I can't find any wheezy packages in the snapshots even. Tried 2016 and 2019. https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-archive/20160313T130328Z/debian/pool/main/s/sysvinit/ |
| 20:33.05 | mishehu | And is the version in the parenthesis even actually required? |
| 20:33.15 | _abc_ | Maybe someone is still processing them? After all, it is historic, there is no priority for this. |
| 20:33.28 | ChmEarl | mishehu, tshark will replace only versions lower than 1.12.1+g01b65bf-4+deb8u18 |
| 20:33.57 | ChmEarl | mishehu, but in your case, wireshark-common must be replace or you get the error shown in paste |
| 20:35.20 | ChmEarl | mishehu, << might be a placeholder so =< is meaningful |
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| 20:35.56 | ChmEarl | mishehu, I don't know exactly why its double arrow: << |
| 20:37.23 | mishehu | ChmEarl: interesting. wireshark 3.0.1 did come with a debian build dir, but I couldn't use it because we're not building wireshark and we don't have qt or anything else xorg related on the system. their debian control file has all << in it. |
| 20:37.39 | mishehu | ChmEarl: but I'll try your suggestion and see what happens. |
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| 20:39.49 | jcrain | it uses '<<' because '<' was already used for an obsolete other thing |
| 20:40.19 | mishehu | jcrain: ah, so << means "less than" in the control file? |
| 20:40.36 | jcrain | yes |
| 20:41.20 | mishehu | jcrain: ok that makes sense when I read this. does the order in which I list the packages in conflicts/breaks/replaces have any significance? or does debuild resolve those into the proper order? |
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| 20:47.07 | jcrain | mishehu: I don't know |
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| 20:47.49 | mishehu | ah ok, well I'll monkey around with this is and see if I can get it right. thanks to both of you for your help |
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| 20:59.07 | RandomGuyOnIrc | Is there a way to boot from a usb with a debian 9.8, and use it as a "rescue" ie. start a debian session, with ethernet access and access to the hard drive? |
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| 20:59.55 | Tenkawa | yes use the the live image |
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| 21:02.44 | at0m | RandomGuyOnIrc: could do the same with any install CD, say the netinstaller. use the tools if offers in rescue mode, or chroot from there to installation on disk |
| 21:03.08 | Tenkawa | yep |
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| 21:03.47 | at0m | live image will add the desktop if you need it and chroot is unavailable |
| 21:03.49 | Tenkawa | https://wiki.debian.org/BootUsbWithGrubRescue |
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| 21:04.26 | at0m | *and when chroot is unavailable |
| 21:07.52 | RandomGuyOnIrc | thanks guys |
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| 21:14.15 | RandomGuyOnIrc | I downloaded this file, firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-4_all.deb from the site that jcmnaught recommended. I think I need to put it under pool on my install usb. Which directory does this go in? |
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| 21:15.01 | RandomGuyOnIrc | pool/f/firmware-free ? |
| 21:15.07 | RandomGuyOnIrc | but it is non free |
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| 21:17.21 | RandomGuyOnIrc | I guess I could just put it in firmware-free, and use dpkg to install it, if the install doesn't find it |
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| 21:18.43 | RandomGuyOnIrc | *sigh* cp: cannot create regular file 'f/firmware-free/firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-4_all.deb': Read-only file system |
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| 21:24.17 | indomitable | ew iwlwifi |
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| 21:27.41 | EdePopede | RandomGuyOnIrc: with dpkg you can install it from whereever, given the dependencies are fine. you could throw all extra .deb's into a directory and dpkg install * |
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| 21:30.27 | wathek | Hi everybody, I'm experiencing a wifi problem with debian stretch 9.8 with linux 4.9.0-9-amd64. The wifi card is RTL8111/8168/8411 whenever I move the laptop it disconnects completely and I have to put my laptop in suspend mode and then run two commands: echo 1 > /sys/devices/pci0000\:00/0000\:00\:1c.1/0000\:03\:00.0/remove |
| 21:30.27 | EdePopede | RandomGuyOnIrc: or you could create the directory tree somewhere and (not loop, the other thing) mount it into its usual position. |
| 21:30.39 | wathek | then echo 1 /sys/devices/pci0000\:00/0000\:00\:1c.1/rescan |
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| 21:55.04 | kadiro | Hello, I have a weird problem, If I switch between tty things with alt+ctrl+F{1..6} I see a key pressed but I don't know which one or why it is doing this, I switched back to xubuntu but no problem there, what is going on? |
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| 21:57.56 | kadiro | nevermind i solved it |
| 21:58.13 | indomitable | wanna explain how kadiro |
| 21:58.15 | indomitable | and what the issue was |
| 21:58.17 | indomitable | for posterity |
| 21:59.30 | kadiro | indomitable, It was just a lircd service lying in the background, I was thinking it is my keyboard but not |
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| 23:05.06 | aokmanga | hi all! |
| 23:05.40 | aokmanga | I've a big big problem with my linux system that seems to be impossible to solve... or at least I'm looking since a couple of days and still not found a solution |
| 23:06.35 | aokmanga | after 1 days that my pc is on memory usage reach around 99% and start swapping... Systems starts lagging and became impossible to use... |
| 23:07.40 | aokmanga | looking at processes using memory doesn't count for 99% of memory usage, I also tried clearing cache memory but nothing changes, I'm not able to find out where is the memory leak |
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| 23:17.59 | ryouma | so, like, htop is no use? |
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| 23:19.20 | aokmanga | ryouma i've 8gb ram and htop is less than 8gb usage |
| 23:19.45 | ryouma | um |
| 23:19.52 | kadiro | oh |
| 23:19.57 | aokmanga | also because i'm using only firefox and hexchat actually... also closing firefox and everything doesn't solve the situation |
| 23:20.18 | kadiro | I have only 2G ram but never had such a problem |
| 23:20.35 | aokmanga | me too... it's the first time having this problem |
| 23:20.51 | kadiro | may be a driver issue |
| 23:20.58 | aokmanga | and it get worse time after time... if I restart it's ok |
| 23:21.04 | aokmanga | than after some hours is around 20-30% |
| 23:21.18 | aokmanga | after a day it reaches 99% and it's impossible to use |
| 23:21.32 | kadiro | which process eat that much memory? |
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| 23:21.57 | aokmanga | kadiro, none apparently |
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| 23:22.23 | kadiro | you checked dmesg / journalctl for any problems? |
| 23:23.17 | kadiro | It could be a hardware too ( ex hdd ) |
| 23:23.17 | aokmanga | biggest memory usage is 0.2% on htop. I check now kadiro |
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| 23:24.00 | kadiro | see the journal for any errors |
| 23:25.49 | aokmanga | kadiro, dmesg returns me an error from an usb hdd i plugged hours ago, now disconnected. Never used journalctl, it says No journal files were found |
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| 23:26.48 | aokmanga | on dmesg is Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 244190645, async page read but doesn't seems to be linkable to the memory leak problem |
| 23:27.20 | kadiro | aokmanga, run it as root, it can't show you anything as a user .. |
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| 23:28.31 | aokmanga | as root same thing for dmesg journalctl and htop |
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| 23:29.11 | kadiro | journalctl does not show anything? |
| 23:30.16 | kadiro | or may be try old school using /var/log/syslog |
| 23:30.29 | kadiro | it must be something wrong in the logs |
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| 23:33.18 | aokmanga | kadiro, journalctl shows nothing... syslog is almost identical to dmesg, nothing important apparently. I must highlight that I'm currently using mx_linux, based on Debian stable |
| 23:33.44 | kadiro | ah |
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| 23:34.39 | kadiro | aokmanga, In this case you must see the irc channel for mx_linux, may be they have some configs that caused the problem |
| 23:35.24 | aokmanga | kadiro, I checked but there are 6 people inside, bot included that's why I tried to find a solution here |
| 23:35.58 | kadiro | aokmanga, try ##linux as it is a general channel about linux |
| 23:36.12 | aokmanga | thank you :-) |
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| 23:36.58 | kadiro | aokmanga, no problem |
| 23:37.14 | aokmanga | kadiro, impossible to enter... only invited... |
| 23:38.37 | aokmanga | anyway thank you for your support. Maybe I've to change distro... this one is giving me this problem since start but I wanted to solve it instead of change everything |
| 23:38.56 | kadiro | aokmanga, I think you must register your nick |
| 23:39.50 | kadiro | aokmanga, https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration |
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| 23:40.55 | aokmanga | I think I'll try tomorrow because now if I open browser it starts lagging so much that i destroy everything :-) |
| 23:40.57 | kadiro | aokmanga, you can also ask here, may be someone else can help, I'm not expert :) |
| 23:41.39 | aokmanga | I m trying not to restart to mantain the problem :-P If I restart i need more 24h to return |
| 23:41.54 | kadiro | oh |
| 23:42.01 | kadiro | thats a pain |
| 23:42.17 | aokmanga | very annoying |
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| 23:43.34 | koality | hello |
| 23:43.36 | kadiro | aokmanga, in my opinion it is a config ( a process start and do something horrible or a hardware problem like disks or something ) |
| 23:44.39 | koality | I've been trying to figure out permissions today, can someone please verify if my understanding is correct? "-rwsr-s--S 1 owner group..." means owner has rwx permissions, group has rx permissions (but inherits w from owner on execution), and other has no permissions (but inherits rwx from owner on execution). |
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| 23:46.17 | aokmanga | Thank you kadiro. I shutdown everything and go to sleep for today. Here is 1.45 :-) Good night |
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| 23:50.21 | stephen77 | hi |
| 23:50.31 | mrjpaxton | Hellos. |
| 23:50.39 | stephen77 | Is there a way to get information about why a file isn't getting freed? I checked and there's no processes keeping it open |
| 23:50.49 | stephen77 | I deleted it and used gdb to close the file |
| 23:51.00 | mrjpaxton | Try lsof <file> |
| 23:51.02 | stephen77 | It doesn't show up in lsof, yet I don't have any extra disk space |
| 23:51.08 | mrjpaxton | Hmm... |
| 23:52.42 | stephen77 | Actually, I got some of the space back when my free space dropped it 19MB |
| 23:52.48 | stephen77 | but I only got 10GB back of a 50GB file |
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