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| 01:21.25 | ryouma | what is the variable that sets the priority of debconf temporarily? also, what can you do to change the colors of debconf? |
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| 01:31.55 | lsjet | Hello, couple questions: 1) How do I get startx working as non-root? I don't want to use a display manager. 2) Why do I have libsystemd0 installed? What does it do? |
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| 01:32.58 | kadiro | ryouma, I think the secret about it can be found here /etc/debconf.conf |
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| 01:36.59 | ryouma | kadiro: i appreciate the documenter's documentation, but i find nothing in there that is equivalent to DEBIAN_FRONTEND for priority, nor anything about the colors for dialog or whatever the program is. |
| 01:40.12 | aloo_shu | lsjet startx is a script that will do what the distro set it up to do, and that's normally getting the display manager up. You *may* be lucky by invoking your desktop environment's session manager directly, e.g. in my case, that would be xfce4-session |
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| 01:40.33 | ryouma | i want to set debconf priority to high for a single command. i also want to change teh colors of dialog or whatever it is. |
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| 01:41.23 | lsjet | I don't run a desktop environment. I've always just run awesomewm directly from startx under Debian. |
| 01:41.47 | lsjet | Not being able to do that would be a deal breaker for using Devuan |
| 01:42.43 | lsjet | I do not use a session manager |
| 01:42.55 | ryouma | lsjet: idgi. startx wfm. from login prompt. |
| 01:43.07 | ryouma | but in debian, not devuan. |
| 01:43.08 | karlpinc | !Devuan |
| 01:43.08 | dpkg | Devuan (https://devuan.org/) is a Debian <derivative>, meant to avoid dependencies on <systemd>. Not supported in #debian, please see #devuan on chat.freenode.net for support. |
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| 01:43.36 | lsjet | Sorry, I don't understand what you just said |
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| 01:43.44 | ryouma | lsjet: what os are you on? |
| 01:44.08 | lsjet | ascii |
| 01:44.14 | lsjet | new install |
| 01:44.34 | aloo_shu | lsjet otherwise, what I do (but have no idea how kosher it is), is, as root, running xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- /usr/bin/Xorg (optionally followed by :0, :1, :2, whatever the next free display would be), then in the resulting xterm, su to my normal user, and invoke whatever I want to invoke |
| 01:44.56 | aloo_shu | lsjet: startx is not always the same, read man startx |
| 01:44.57 | ryouma | lsjet: debian or devuan? |
| 01:45.13 | ryouma | ascii is not an os afaik |
| 01:45.23 | kadiro | ryouma, did you read this doc https://wiki.debian.org/debconf ? |
| 01:45.33 | lsjet | ascii is a release of Devuan |
| 01:46.29 | aloo_shu | lsjet: 'I have started such and such with startx' doesn't make sense, you need to use xinit if you want to fire up things manually, otherwise, write or get the correct startx for what you want |
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| 01:47.22 | ryouma | kadiro: thanks, that does not seem to answer either of my questions. i have alraedy done dpkg-reconfigure, but that is for the defaut,not for one command., and it does not say anything about changing colors in the defaultfrontend? |
| 01:47.26 | lsjet | Under Debian Stretch lauching startx without a display manager works as long as /usr/bin/xinit is suid, but the same thing fails under Devuan |
| 01:47.30 | karlpinc | lsjet: Sorry, but this channel is for debian support. Try asking in #devuan. |
| 01:48.14 | epsilon | quick question about diff & patch: I have created a patch file, but the line numbers have changed due to new/deleted lines in the original file. Is there a way to 'update' the patch file with new line numbers? |
| 01:48.22 | lsjet | oh, haha. joined wrong channel and didn't notice. :) |
| 01:48.31 | lsjet | duh |
| 01:48.32 | kadiro | ryouma, there are choices I think when you run that command, i think one of them let you configure it manually, may be i'm wrong |
| 01:48.39 | aloo_shu | lsjet, that's really devuan specific then, you can't blame ppl to send you to devuan then |
| 01:49.55 | lsjet | I know...I said I made a mistake. Thought I was in #devuan |
| 01:50.07 | lsjet | oops |
| 01:50.55 | ryouma | kadiro: i alraedy confuigured it manually. i want to make a single call similar to DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get ..., except to set priority to critical or high. also, i want to change colors of dialog. (that one can be permanent.) |
| 01:51.14 | lsjet | sorry for the confusion |
| 01:51.15 | karlpinc | aloo_shu: The trouble is that we know debian here, and don't know what's specific to debian and what's not. (And we don't want to interrupt support for debian.) If you want help with something not-debian that's running on debian, maybe we can help. But general computer support is something else. |
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| 01:51.49 | kadiro | ryouma, I see, my bad, thats out of my knowledge :) |
| 01:52.36 | karlpinc | ryouma: I'm kinda gettin into your thread late here, but dpkg-reconfigure has a -f option that sets the frontend. |
| 01:53.12 | karlpinc | ryouma: As for the particular frontend in question, maybe there's a man page? |
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| 01:55.18 | karlpinc | ryouma: So "man dpkg-reconfigure" says -f for frontend, -p for minimium priority, and so forth. If you're using dialog, there may be a way to set an env var to control color, or something. |
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| 02:03.10 | ryouma | karlpinc: hi, ithanks for joining. i already looked at dialog manpage. it lets the /package maintainer/ set colors, but there is nothing there for the /user/ to set colors. thecolors are completely unusable for me at night which is when i typcally need to isntall or upgrade. as for non-dialog options, they either use kde/gnome which i don't, or they do not show defaults, which is a dealbreaker. so i think i am s |
| 02:03.10 | ryouma | tuck with dialog. so i want to change its colors. esp the blue bg and the light grey bg and the unreadable red. |
| 02:03.47 | ryouma | karlpinc: as for -p for minimuym priority, that sets the /default/. i awnt to set it for /a siggle apt-get call/. |
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| 02:23.57 | ryouma | man page for debconf refers to debconf(7) which does not exist |
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| 02:35.12 | dfkqn_ | how can I change the timezone so it used the local time? right now it wrongly applies the bias to the hw clock time |
| 02:35.55 | Bjornn | anyone here using brave broswer on linux? |
| 02:36.07 | Bjornn | they have an install guide but don't list debian for some reason. |
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| 02:36.51 | kadiro | dfkqn_, your answer is hwclock |
| 02:37.29 | dfkqn_ | will it persist? |
| 02:39.20 | dax | assuming you're not dualbooting: set your system clock to UTC, and set the correct timezone so that Debian displays the correct time |
| 02:39.49 | dfkqn_ | not an option dax |
| 02:39.52 | dax | why? |
| 02:40.37 | dax | anyway, for the first see hwclock (in the package util-linux, I think). for the second, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 02:41.13 | dfkqn_ | gmt is stupid |
| 02:41.53 | dax | which is not a concern, because you set the correct timezone using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 02:47.16 | dfkqn_ | i used `hwclock -s --localtime`, but after reboot everything went back to the wrong time |
| 02:47.19 | ryouma | "In addition, running Debian has high nerd value as compared to other distributions such as RedHatLinux. It has the benefit of being generally usable and largely accepted in a production environment while still being l33t. " https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAndOtherDistros |
| 02:47.37 | ryouma | why? |
| 02:47.58 | dfkqn_ | how can i make the stuff persist? |
| 02:48.43 | dax | use --utc instead of --localtime and set the hwclock to UTC, since you're not dualbooting |
| 02:49.29 | dfkqn_ | that would be a stupid thing to do |
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| 02:50.28 | dax | nah, a stupid thing to do would be spending hours on IRC asking the same question over and over in multiple mutually-exclusive channels and then ignoring when you're given the correct answer by multiple people |
| 02:51.17 | dfkqn_ | i used "hwclock" and it did not work |
| 02:51.43 | dax | what, specifically, did you run? |
| 02:52.21 | dfkqn_ | "hwclock -s --localtime" |
| 02:52.31 | dax | cool |
| 02:52.35 | dax | are you using Ubuntu or Debian? |
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| 02:53.16 | dfkqn_ | jessie |
| 02:53.21 | dax | good to know. thanks. |
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| 03:01.48 | dfkqn_ | so what was "the correct answer by multiple people" i supposedly was given, dax? |
| 03:01.55 | dax | to use UTC |
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| 03:07.03 | dfkqn_ | but i didn't asked whether utc should be used, so it isn't the answer |
| 03:07.20 | dax | cool |
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| 03:29.37 | EdePopede | of course it is the answer. your bios clock is set to UTC and the system takes care of your local offset including summertime. then you will have exactly what you want: your local time available. |
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| 03:30.48 | dfkqn_ | clock should show the time here, not somewhere in uk |
| 03:31.57 | CrystalMath | hi everyone |
| 03:32.04 | CrystalMath | i have a general question about dpkg |
| 03:32.15 | CrystalMath | i have this package i'm trying to build |
| 03:32.20 | CrystalMath | with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 03:32.34 | CrystalMath | but it keeps depending on init-system-helpers version 1.51 or newer |
| 03:32.38 | CrystalMath | now, i'm on stable |
| 03:32.41 | CrystalMath | so i have 1.48 |
| 03:32.48 | CrystalMath | how do i override this and just say "no it doesn't depend on it" |
| 03:33.20 | CrystalMath | there's this .substvars file that has it |
| 03:33.33 | CrystalMath | but it seems to disappear |
| 03:33.41 | CrystalMath | when i start dpkg-buildpackage |
| 03:33.41 | EdePopede | dfkqn_: "clock" is singular. which one do you mean? the system clock you see on your desktop and which is used by your system and all the software or your hardware clock which simply has to keep time while the PC is off or not connected to the internet? |
| 03:34.20 | dfkqn_ | the hw clock |
| 03:35.07 | CrystalMath | where it is even getting this crazy idea of depending on init-system-helpers >= 1.51 |
| 03:35.16 | CrystalMath | it's really frustrating |
| 03:35.22 | CrystalMath | i wish dpkg was simpler |
| 03:35.27 | EdePopede | dfkqn_: if you set it to local time you usually have to change it 2 times per year. and if it a laptop you take with you it will be wrong again after you cross a timezone or a national border. |
| 03:36.09 | EdePopede | dfkqn_: setting the hw clock to localtime is a dirty workaround for broken system which have no clue about timezones and NTP. |
| 03:36.39 | EdePopede | CrystalMath: what package is dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 03:37.10 | CrystalMath | err, that's in dpkg-dev |
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| 03:38.53 | CrystalMath | ohhhh, nevermind |
| 03:38.59 | CrystalMath | the issue is that i have debhelper from backports |
| 03:39.02 | jmabsd | is there any useful way to trace the reason a debian installation unexpectedly crashed? |
| 03:39.07 | CrystalMath | but not init-system-helpers from backports |
| 03:40.13 | CrystalMath | yep, nothing wrong with dpkg, i was just dumb and hysterical |
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| 03:47.41 | EdePopede | CrystalMath: ah :) and could it be that there is a recommendation in the dependency path? did some tests with debtree, had to use --show-all to get init-system-helpers into the tree. |
| 03:48.20 | EdePopede | didn't create a png, the .dot file is 157k, compared to 28k for the one w/o any options |
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| 03:54.21 | CrystalMath | EdePopede: it seems that dh-autoreconf injects it |
| 03:54.25 | CrystalMath | into misc:Depends |
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| 03:54.44 | CrystalMath | presumably because it involves editing services |
| 03:55.02 | CrystalMath | unfortunately, the package doesn't work :( |
| 03:56.09 | EdePopede | apt depends on it. which is needed by apt-utils (recommended for debconf) |
| 03:56.33 | CrystalMath | no i mean |
| 03:56.35 | CrystalMath | the package i created |
| 03:56.36 | EdePopede | no, apt. you weren't meant ;) |
| 03:58.15 | EdePopede | debtree&dot is a great team. |
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| 05:12.34 | EdePopede | is X{{1..3},{5..8}} the shortest form to get in bash the 7 words? seems it can't mix lists and ranges in one set. |
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| 05:14.16 | kadiro | what about X{1..8} |
| 05:15.26 | EdePopede | kadiro: doesn't omit the 4 |
| 05:15.58 | kadiro | EdePopede, ah didn't notice that |
| 05:16.03 | EdePopede | (it's about creating mountpoints on the fly for an traditional disk layout) |
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| 06:07.29 | clairedesu | Does anyone use a yubikey/fido device? I have a weird issue with finding libraries for pamu2fcfg |
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| 06:08.23 | clairedesu | it says "pamu2fcfg: error while loading shared libraries: libu2f-server.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
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| 06:08.36 | clairedesu | I can't find anyone else that has that error... |
| 06:09.22 | rwp | Is libu2f-server.so.0 installed on the system? |
| 06:09.57 | KaitoDaumoto | man which |
| 06:10.15 | KaitoDaumoto | oh sorry |
| 06:10.15 | KaitoDaumoto | lol |
| 06:10.32 | clairedesu | oh dear |
| 06:10.39 | clairedesu | it seems like all of my .so files are empty |
| 06:10.50 | clairedesu | I have to reinstall the packages that use the files one by one |
| 06:11.02 | clairedesu | it seems like all the -0 packages |
| 06:11.58 | clairedesu | I'm just doing apt-file from each error that pamu2fcfg gives me, and reinstalling said packages one by one |
| 06:12.04 | clairedesu | I've tried all the automatic apt clean stuff |
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| 06:14.59 | rwp | You can look for files that are zero sized with "find /lib /usr/lib -size 0 -ls" and get a complete list all at once. |
| 06:15.54 | clairedesu | well, they're not actually zero-sized |
| 06:15.57 | clairedesu | they're just not there |
| 06:16.00 | clairedesu | but apt seems not to notice |
| 06:19.03 | clairedesu | hmm, I just reinstalled around 3 libraries |
| 06:19.05 | clairedesu | and it works now |
| 06:19.06 | clairedesu | (sort of) |
| 06:20.10 | rwp | When you said the .so files were empty I thought that meant empty. (shrug) Glad you have made forward progress. |
| 06:24.19 | clairedesu | well, now pam can't find the pam_u2f.so file |
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| 06:28.23 | clairedesu | reinstalling the libpam-u2f package seemed to work... |
| 06:29.05 | rwp | This just seems very strange that you would be having shared library problems like this. Seems to me that something must have happened. Full disk? Bad SATA cable? Cosmic rays from space? |
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| 06:29.34 | clairedesu | well, I wrongly configured PAM, so I plugged the pi's SD card into my laptop and edited the PAM file on that |
| 06:30.36 | rwp | That mystery is explained then. But the others? |
| 06:31.13 | clairedesu | oh, it wasn't because I didn't configure pam correctly |
| 06:31.16 | clairedesu | the .so errors, that is |
| 06:31.47 | clairedesu | I did get a strange warning talking about /var/lib/$username/ts/ or something like that |
| 06:32.04 | clairedesu | sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/ts/claire: Structure needs cleaning |
| 06:32.26 | rwp | SD card failure? You might try doing a full read from every block on the card and seeing if there are any errors from it. I have had cards fail before. |
| 06:33.46 | clairedesu | well, I ran an fsck and it was fine |
| 06:34.14 | clairedesu | I'll just chalk it up to forgetting to eject the disk unless something else happens |
| 06:34.56 | rwp | Not waiting for the data to sync before ejecting it could account for a lot of bad things. |
| 06:35.56 | clairedesu | well, the u2f is working fine |
| 06:36.08 | clairedesu | aside from the fact that I realized using a u2f token for a headless machine makes no sense |
| 06:36.35 | clairedesu | it might be cool to have a file vault project with the epass as a "key" |
| 06:38.18 | rwp | I have had it on my bucket list for a while to check out the mandos package and setting up my servers for headless encryption. |
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| 06:41.21 | clairedesu | i'd honestly be really surprised if the NSA didn't have backdoors into most-all u2f keys anyways |
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| 06:42.25 | rwp | I'm more optimistic about the security of u2f tokens. However my complain is that most of those are proprietary. I've had problems with that before. |
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| 06:44.50 | clairedesu | are the nxp ones proprietary? |
| 06:45.01 | clairedesu | I haven't actually heard of a fully free one |
| 06:45.09 | rwp | The particular one I was fighting was a SafeNet iKey 4000. |
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| 06:50.33 | clairedesu | have you been able to configure the software on non-yubikey keys? a lot of the management stuff seems windows-only |
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| 07:01.59 | clairedesu | I might eventually want to do stuff other than FIDO with it |
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| 07:09.52 | blackbart | I've installed several different versions of my usb wifi drivers from various github repos. How can I know which is currently active? More than two are loadable via 'modprobe rtl8822bu' and I wonder which is actually loading. |
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| 07:16.37 | nkuttler | blackbart: dmesg? |
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| 07:20.53 | dfkqn_ | how can I change the timezone so it used the local time? right now it wrongly applies the bias to the hw clock time |
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| 07:23.29 | rant | dfkqn_: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 07:25.37 | dfkqn_ | rant: i tried that, it asks for a timezone, than nothing changes |
| 07:25.52 | dfkqn_ | my system time is few hours into the future |
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| 07:33.07 | rant | its probably set to UTC |
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| 07:34.29 | dfkqn_ | the clock are local, but the system applies the tz offset to it for some reason |
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| 07:35.14 | rant | are we talking about the hw clock or the sw clock? |
| 07:35.36 | dfkqn_ | hw clock are the correct local time, sw clock are in the future |
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| 07:36.11 | rant | dfkqn_: and what does the date command say? |
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| 07:36.39 | dfkqn_ | wrong time |
| 07:36.46 | rant | wrong tz? |
| 07:36.59 | rant | doesnt really care about the time |
| 07:37.14 | dfkqn_ | tz is correct, but it is added to the local time |
| 07:37.30 | dfkqn_ | the date should display the hw clock |
| 07:37.36 | rant | well it probably expects your hw clock to be in UTC |
| 07:37.46 | dfkqn_ | yes, and I want to fix that |
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| 07:39.20 | rant | dfkqn_: https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/util-linux/hwclock.8.en.html see the -s option descriptions |
| 07:39.38 | rant | its industry wide standard for all OS to use UTC for the HW clock now |
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| 07:40.36 | rant | dfkqn_: the /etc/adjtime may still be in use |
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| 07:40.51 | rant | truth is since systemd I dont know the basics anymore :P |
| 07:41.04 | rant | systemd has its fingers in the clock among many other things |
| 07:41.50 | rant | dfkqn_: if that file is still used changing UTC to LOCAL should help |
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| 07:44.36 | dfkqn_ | i tried hwclock, but it works only until reboot |
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| 07:45.32 | rant | yes well try changing /etc/adjtime too |
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| 07:53.14 | dfkqn_ | hmm it has UTC for some reason, let's see will it work |
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| 08:05.54 | dfkqn_ | lol has the mp3 patent finally expired? |
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| 08:08.47 | indomitable | can it even expire |
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| 08:10.41 | tuxmartin | Hi, I need to alow user "test" to run mysql command only with one command. I create file "/etc/sudoers.d/sql": |
| 08:10.47 | tuxmartin | test ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mysql --login-path=local -s -e 'SELECT SUM(((DATA_LENGTH + INDEX_LENGTH))) FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES;' |
| 08:10.51 | tuxmartin | but after I try to use it: |
| 08:10.55 | tuxmartin | su -c "sudo /usr/bin/mysql --login-path=local -s -e 'SELECT SUM(((DATA_LENGTH + INDEX_LENGTH))) FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES;'" test |
| 08:11.04 | tuxmartin | it doesn't work: |
| 08:11.07 | tuxmartin | "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified" |
| 08:11.10 | tuxmartin | How can I solve this? |
| 08:11.51 | tryphe | tuxmartin, instead of modifying the file you could add to the sudo group: sudo usermod -aG sudo <username> |
| 08:12.39 | jelly | tryphe, that would allow running _any_ command as root |
| 08:13.19 | jelly | tuxmartin, "no tty present" is the key take. man sudoers, read about requiretty |
| 08:13.34 | tuxmartin | I need to allow only this command to user "test". No all commands. |
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| 08:15.02 | tryphe | jelly, but they didn't say what they were doing |
| 08:15.16 | tuxmartin | If I add "Defaults:test !requiretty" to /etc/sudoers.d/sql, I still havee the same problem. |
| 08:15.22 | tryphe | you can just make a sudo_limited group then with 1 line, and then not have to modify the file at all |
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| 08:18.36 | dfkqn_ | somehow debian can blay mp3s out-of-the-box |
| 08:18.49 | tuxmartin | tryphe: can you please explain it? |
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| 08:19.18 | indomitable | dfkqn_, no it can't |
| 08:19.23 | indomitable | you've installed non-free packages |
| 08:19.35 | indomitable | maybe they enabled non-free by default now |
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| 08:21.23 | jelly | indomitable, debian never had mp3 decoding disabled. |
| 08:21.34 | indomitable | really? o_O |
| 08:21.41 | indomitable | I never install "real" debian |
| 08:21.47 | indomitable | it's always some stripped down thing |
| 08:23.26 | jelly | that does not matter, really. Even mplayer 1 15+ years back would play mp3 files. |
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| 08:24.32 | tryphe | tuxmartin, hmm, did you check if /etc/sudoers has includedir /etc/sudoers.d commented? |
| 08:24.50 | tryphe | tuxmartin, could be the problem, it's not enabled by default |
| 08:25.35 | jelly | tryphe, if they did not have permissions to run a command, they would not get a tty problem then, but a different error |
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| 08:26.48 | jelly | er, I'm wrong |
| 08:27.51 | jelly | so it might just be a case of wrong command being run, then |
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| 08:28.45 | jelly | tuxmartin, can you try enabling access to a simpler command without all the quotes, like "/bin/echo works", see if that works? |
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| 08:39.07 | obiwahn | What is the equivalent of those files in debian? |
| 08:39.16 | jooordi | hello |
| 08:39.39 | obiwahn | that is taken from the mosh-server manpage in debian 10 |
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| 08:45.06 | jmabsd | is there any useful way to trace the reason a debian installation unexpectedly crashed? |
| 08:46.17 | jooordi | i'm looking for support... after apt-upgrade (with new kernel image) i can't login to my desktop, on the login prompt the mouse and keyboard doesn't work (using laptop with/without external usb devices). i'm now in a ubuntu live. I want to boot in console mode to run some commands but i don't know how |
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| 08:47.30 | jooordi | but i can't figure out how to change systemd, y don't found the "default.taget" file to change to "multi-user.target" |
| 08:47.56 | jooordi | also i can't run commands from chrooted ubuntu on the debian systemd because systemctl says i'm chroot.... |
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| 09:49.36 | tichun | What do you think about available Vulkan library in Debian? It is 1.0.39 versus upstream 1.1.107. Should this worry potential learners? |
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| 10:26.12 | at0m | ,v vulkan |
| 10:26.13 | judd | No package named 'vulkan' was found in amd64. |
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| 10:26.54 | at0m | ,v nvidia-vulkan-icd |
| 10:26.55 | judd | Package: nvidia-vulkan-icd on amd64 -- stretch/non-free: 390.87-8~deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 390.116-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 410.104-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 410.104-3; sid/non-free: 415.27-2; experimental/non-free: 418.56-1 |
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| 10:27.35 | judd | Package: libvulkan1 on amd64 -- stretch: 1.0.39.0+dfsg1-1; stretch-backports: 1.1.70+dfsg1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.1.97-2; sid: 1.1.101.0-2 |
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| 22:28.01 | ttl- | I would like to join #debian-next but the channel seems to be invite only for the moment |
| 22:29.35 | Tom-_ | !debian-next |
| 22:29.36 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 22:30.51 | Deihmos | How much memory is this app using? is it 207MB? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ytHlbpUX/Annotation%202019-04-22%20182933.png |
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| 22:34.25 | n-st | Deihmos: 207 MB exclusive to this program + 42 MB used by this program and also by others (usually shared libraries) |
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| 22:35.39 | Deihmos | thanks. |
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