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| 00:06.23 | analogical | ml|, soures.list |
| 00:06.37 | analogical | ooops |
| 00:07.30 | analogical | ml|, https://pastebin.com/Nft96xhZ |
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| 00:14.06 | ml| | analogical: That only has security lines. You need to add deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main |
| 00:14.11 | ml| | analogical: ^? |
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| 00:14.50 | analogical | ml|, please tell me what to type in the terminal |
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| 00:16.08 | ml| | analogical: You need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root. Then add the line: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main |
| 00:16.52 | ml| | analogical: After that run 'apt update' and try installing ufw again. |
| 00:22.34 | devfx11 | is it easy to run a raspian image in qemu-arm on debian ? |
| 00:22.44 | devfx11 | maybe a guide on how to do it with virt-manager ? |
| 00:22.47 | devfx11 | i would like to try it |
| 00:22.50 | devfx11 | if possible :) |
| 00:23.04 | devfx11 | is it the same way to install it as on x86 ? |
| 00:23.22 | devfx11 | i dont have a rpi but id try the software and emulate the hardware :) |
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| 00:23.52 | ml| | analogical: Here is a full example: https://pastebin.com/f3EJiBUf |
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| 00:25.36 | ml| | analogical: Another example with buster-updates: https://pastebin.com/f135yTNn |
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| 00:26.36 | ml| | analogical: You may want to add crontib and if needed/wanted non-free after 'main' |
| 00:27.45 | ml| | analogical: NOT crontib, but contrib |
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| 00:28.45 | ml| | analogical: For example: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free |
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| 00:29.04 | analogical | I see |
| 00:29.30 | ml| | dpkg: sources.list |
| 00:29.30 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 00:29.50 | ml| | dpkg: contrib |
| 00:29.50 | dpkg | [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ [stretch|buster|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>. |
| 00:29.57 | ml| | dpkg: non-free |
| 00:29.57 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. |
| 00:30.04 | ml| | analogical: See ^^ |
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| 00:30.31 | analogical | yes thank you very much for your help (: |
| 00:31.12 | ml| | Can you install ufw now? |
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| 00:31.49 | analogical | yes it works |
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| 00:32.31 | ml| | dpkg: next |
| 00:32.31 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 00:34.06 | devfx11 | is there a channel for raspi debian ? |
| 00:36.27 | ml| | devfx11: #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net |
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| 00:52.13 | devfx11 | ml|: thanks |
| 00:54.07 | analogical | devfx11, #raspbian |
| 00:56.30 | devfx11 | analogical: same or what is the difference from #raspberrypi ? |
| 00:56.55 | analogical | hardware and OS |
| 00:57.14 | devfx11 | ok |
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| 00:57.23 | aloo_shu | non-altered debian stable for arm run on a pi would be supporten here, too, wouldn't it? only that others would know the hardware better |
| 00:58.11 | ml| | devfx11: analogical is correct for what you want. |
| 00:58.57 | ml| | devfx11: That channel had slipped my mind, sorry |
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| 00:59.56 | ml| | dpkg: raspberrypi |
| 00:59.57 | dpkg | The Raspberry Pi is an open hardware design based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 01:06.36 | ozfalcon | Anyone famillia |
| 01:07.00 | devfx11 | ozfalcon: hi :) |
| 01:07.24 | ozfalcon | Anyone familiar with current steam packages? |
| 01:07.32 | ozfalcon | Hi devfx11 |
| 01:08.21 | devfx11 | no me sorry |
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| 01:09.11 | ozfalcon | Looks like packages in transition. Or something..... |
| 01:09.30 | ozfalcon | (Running buster) |
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| 01:39.06 | themill | bah |
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| 02:47.24 | sufy | has anyone had issues with the release candidate for next stable version |
| 02:48.34 | themill | vague questions get vague answers btw |
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| 02:51.20 | annadane | there's some wiki page with problems in buster |
| 02:51.30 | annadane | otherwise you can go ask in #debian-next on the oftc network |
| 02:51.35 | annadane | let me see if i can find the wiki |
| 02:51.44 | sufy | I have a support question, how can I make my snap items show up automatically after installing on debian buster in gnome |
| 02:51.57 | annadane | https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster |
| 02:51.57 | sufy | I have had to make .desktop files wondering if i can get that done another way |
| 02:52.18 | sufy | this channel is only for stretch? |
| 02:52.29 | annadane | well... i was told earlier we can start supporting buster now |
| 02:52.33 | annadane | so apparently not |
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| 06:10.10 | Nong | hi |
| 06:11.01 | Nong | lsuser |
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| 06:19.05 | Nong | sudo apt update |
| 06:19.16 | Nong | sudo apt upgrade |
| 06:19.33 | Nong | y |
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| 06:49.31 | jmd | Good morning people. I wonder if someone can tell me where debian stores its passphrase to connect to a WLAN? I set it years ago, and now I need to find it and can't remember where it lives. |
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| 06:53.07 | rant | jmd: as would probably be the case with any such question, Debian doesn't do anything.. there are 7 major DE, many different ways you could've configured your system and your wifi.. you will need to be more specific |
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| 06:53.37 | OS-46440 | #join offsec |
| 06:53.45 | rant | with my service I can just go to the website, router page, or my tv to get my wifi password |
| 06:53.49 | OS-46440 | !pedro |
| 06:54.02 | rant | OS-46440: ? |
| 06:54.08 | OS-46440 | !pedro |
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| 06:55.22 | jmd | rant: If I knew what the specifics were, then I wouldn't have to ask the question, would I? |
| 06:55.59 | rant | !ops potential botnet nicks with OS-##### and same realname set generically |
| 06:55.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: rant complains about a problem (see above) |
| 06:56.20 | dax | that's not a botnet |
| 06:57.10 | dax | it's humans who followed the (odd) instructions in https://www.offensive-security.com/offsec-irc-guide/ |
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| 06:57.47 | rant | jmd: well chances of you getting help is almost non-existant if you dont even know what DE or wifi software you use.. you could be using network-manager, could be using wicd, could be using wpa_supplicant, directly/manually or via /etc/network/interfaces or a custom /etc/wpa/ something or other, using systemd-networkd who knows |
| 06:57.57 | dax | (or maybe the instructions are fine and the disk image they get is weird, idk where exactly the number comes from) |
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| 06:58.53 | rant | jmd: more than likely though unless you use network-manager applet, or put a plaintext wpa_supplicant password in a file manually, you can't get your password back out of the machine cause it doesnt have it |
| 06:59.18 | rant | as is case with most any system and passwords, the passwords are not stored on the system |
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| 07:00.23 | jmd | I know its in a file somewhere under /etc |
| 07:00.49 | rant | jmd: if you have n-m applet, you just right click, go to edit connections, edit your connection and click show password on the wifi security tab |
| 07:00.49 | jmd | (otherwise how could the machine make an initial connection?) |
| 07:01.15 | rant | you apparently havent the slightest clue how wpa_supplicant or wpa works |
| 07:01.32 | jmd | rant: No. That's why I'm asking. |
| 07:01.34 | rant | the password is only used to generate a key based on the password, ssid, etc |
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| 07:01.41 | rant | that key is whats stored |
| 07:01.45 | rant | not the password |
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| 07:02.17 | rant | unless you deliberately put something like wpa-passphrase "mypassword" in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ |
| 07:02.24 | rant | or such |
| 07:02.59 | jmd | Yeah I've already checked that directory. It's not there. |
| 07:04.55 | Nong | can you output you wifi set |
| 07:05.07 | rant | well I'm done.. unless you care to elaborate on which of over 50,000 software packages and a dozen debian releases you use |
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| 07:05.29 | jmd | I'm using 9.4 |
| 07:05.55 | jmd | At least that's what /etc/debian_version tells me. |
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| 07:06.41 | jmd | Nong: Was that message directed to me? |
| 07:06.46 | ledeni | jmd, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 07:08.17 | themill | jmd: if you're convinced it was in /etc, then it could be /etc/NetworkManager, /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/wpa_supplicant/. |
| 07:08.37 | jmd | ledeni: Again, that wiki refers to /etc/network/interfaces which was what I had originally thought, but there's nothing there of interest. |
| 07:10.21 | jmd | themill: Yep. Got it. /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections is where it is. |
| 07:10.28 | jmd | Thanks for your help. |
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| 07:13.55 | rant | dax: I'm guessing they ignored the /join #offsec then.. and idk wth the !pedro is about |
| 07:14.18 | dax | they tend to be a bit confused, yeah |
| 07:14.30 | rant | these irc clients auto connecting to #debian on freenode is a lil annoying |
| 07:14.41 | rant | spinoffs dont change these defaults for one thing |
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| 07:15.03 | at0m | rant: ubuntu irc client used to be pre-configured like that some years ago |
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| 07:15.09 | at0m | rant: imagine the chaos |
| 07:15.30 | rant | I don't have to imagine.. I been here.. I see it all the time :P |
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| 08:26.46 | Resilience | hello to everyone, I have a problem with youtunbe videos and firefox, sometimes sound does not work, what can I do aside of restarting the browser? |
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| 08:28.09 | diogenes_ | Resilience, the default ff? or some custom build? |
| 08:28.35 | Resilience | diogenes_, default, everything in my sytem is default |
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| 08:47.27 | rant | Resilience: do you have more than one sound output and frequently change configs like a laptop dock or dp/hdmi out? |
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| 08:48.19 | rant | I for one use two extra displays on my laptop and have internal, analog, and digital sound.. so things get confused cause I switch them a lot |
| 08:48.22 | Resilience | rant, have two outputs, but rarel change them I have the hdmi soud output, but I have verifie it and it is routed to internal speakers |
| 08:48.51 | rant | Resilience: yes but did you just verify your default output or the actual output for that app? |
| 08:49.16 | rant | because thats what gets me.. I switch the default output but sometimes individual apps are still routed elsewhere |
| 08:49.43 | rant | mate-volume-control doesnt show me individual app outputs, but pavucontrol will |
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| 08:50.20 | Resilience | rant, mmmm go to check it |
| 08:50.52 | rant | pulseaudio allows for some rather convoluted configurations :P |
| 08:51.01 | OS-46962 | hello All |
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| 08:52.04 | Resilience | rant, it happens occasionally |
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| 08:52.29 | rant | OS-46962: #kali-linux #offsec |
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| 09:07.25 | Resilience | rant, I opened pavucontrol and everything seems all right |
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| 09:08.31 | rant | Resilience: idk. was the issue I most frequently run into. I dont use FF for youtube. I only use it for netflix and I noticed on NF anyhow it opens 3 seperate audio streams |
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| 09:09.17 | Resilience | rant, question is I have a lot of opendd tabs, so restartig the browser are.. wel. several minutes |
| 09:10.26 | rant | which is why I dont use FF :P |
| 09:10.31 | rant | its slow |
| 09:11.51 | Resilience | rant right, bhut, what can I o about my sound issue? whre do I start to llok at? |
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| 09:13.20 | rant | I don't know.. just have to look at each thing when it occurs.. the actuall per-application sound outputs, and rather than restarting the browser try just killing the plugin container |
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| 09:14.02 | rant | and consider not using a browser causing you issues :p |
| 09:15.08 | rant | my father uses FF on a machine with 4GB ram and I've seen his process monitor on Strech showing over 20GB resident before which made absolutely no sense to me how a machine with 4GB physical memory and 4GB virtual could even have a 20GB resident |
| 09:15.30 | Resilience | rant, there is no per-app output |
| 09:15.33 | rant | I use chromium day to day and it works |
| 09:15.52 | rant | if there is no per app output you're not looking in the right place |
| 09:16.03 | Resilience | rant what do yo mean with killing the plugin container= |
| 09:16.10 | Resilience | I am looking at pavucontrol |
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| 09:17.37 | rant | Resilience: https://i.imgur.com/IidYd6D.jpg |
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| 09:18.48 | rant | thats youtube playing and it showing up on pavucontrol |
| 09:18.53 | Resilience | rant, no per-app. , sorry |
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| 09:19.48 | rant | you have no playback tab? |
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| 09:25.30 | rant | Resilience: https://i.imgur.com/dbVcXhD.jpg shows 3 apps playing sound to different outputs |
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| 09:28.44 | rant | its only going to show things actually having open sound handles |
| 09:29.06 | rant | this isn't a log, its a real-time control |
| 09:29.15 | rant | thats why I said you have to look at it when the issue is occuring |
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| 09:32.59 | Nixew | Would you recommend me a utility to check my S.M.A.R.T. SSD's health? |
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| 09:33.29 | rant | Nixew: hddsentinel its non-free and third party, but available to private users for free.. works well |
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| 09:33.57 | rant | Nixew: https://www.hdsentinel.com/download.php |
| 09:34.30 | Nixew | I'll try it, thank you. |
| 09:34.48 | rant | Nixew: in debian we have smartmontools but they are not as clean or accurate output.. this company makes effort to correct errors in various SMART output |
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| 09:39.23 | Nixew | Fantastic, it does the trick. Thank you. |
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| 09:47.31 | Resilience | rant problem is it seems as if ff does not "connect" to pa |
| 09:48.26 | rant | ,depends firefox-esr |
| 09:48.27 | judd | Package firefox-esr in stretch/amd64 -- depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.18), libcairo-gobject2 (>= 1.10.0), libcairo2 (>= 1.10.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.9.14), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), libffi6 (>= 3.0.4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.11), libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.8), libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.0.0), libjsoncpp1 |
| 09:48.28 | judd | (>= 1.7.4), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libstartup-notification0 (>= 0.8), libstdc++6 (>= 6), libvpx4 (>= 1.6.0), libx11-6, libx11-xcb1, libxcb-shm0, libxcb1, libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxrender1, libxt6, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.4), fontconfig, procps, debianutils (>= 1.16). |
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| 09:49.56 | rant | Resilience: would appear firefox uses libasound2 which could be affected by any alsa sound configuration.. such as ~/.asoundrc or such |
| 09:50.43 | Resilience | rant, but it happnes *sometimes*, not always it is an intermittent issue |
| 09:52.06 | rant | yes well I dont know, told you this many times already. I've seen this and many other issues with firefox, which is WHY I DO NOT USE IT :D |
| 09:52.26 | rant | you keep asking me directly, so I keep telling you things you can look into.. but none of this changes the fact I do not know |
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| 09:58.01 | Nozzzle | hello, I am getting a login loop. I enter correct password, but get back to the login again |
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| 10:03.01 | rant | Nozzzle: as a normal user? graphical login? |
| 10:06.03 | Nozzzle | rant, yes |
| 10:06.18 | Nozzzle | can I use this solution which is intended for ubuntu: https://askubuntu.com/questions/387112/login-goes-back-to-login-screen ? |
| 10:06.36 | Nozzzle | or, rather, is it intended for ubuntu only? |
| 10:06.40 | rant | Nozzzle: press ctrl+alt+f1 login on the text console as root, chown -R user:user /home/user |
| 10:06.54 | rant | Nozzzle: press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back or type chvt 7 |
| 10:07.02 | Nozzzle | ok! |
| 10:07.09 | rant | Nozzzle: change all mentions of "user" with your username of course |
| 10:07.16 | Nozzzle | yes :) |
| 10:07.27 | rant | Nozzzle: most common cause is user cannot access their homedir |
| 10:07.36 | rant | or part thereof |
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| 10:09.40 | Nozzzle | rant, I can't get to text console, because it is a VM, and when I do ctrl+alt+f1, I am logged out of the host system and shown its login window. |
| 10:10.12 | rant | what sort of VM? |
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| 10:10.44 | Nozzzle | rant, qemu/kvm |
| 10:10.51 | Nixew | Is there newer version of PostgreSQL in the Debian repository? When I run "sudo apt-get install postgre<tab>", it shows a list of packeges version 9.6 |
| 10:11.13 | rant | ,v postgresql |
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| 10:11.14 | judd | Package: postgresql on amd64 -- jessie: 9.4+165+deb8u3; jessie-security: 9.4+165+deb8u3; stretch-security: 9.6+181+deb9u1; stretch: 9.6+181+deb9u2; buster: 11+200+deb10u1; sid: 11+200+deb10u1 |
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| 10:11.34 | rant | Nixew: looks like buster/sid have 11 |
| 10:12.03 | Nixew | That's fine. I don't know, yet, the differences between them. Hopefully I won't need them for a while. Thanks. |
| 10:13.40 | rant | yes well buster will likely be releasing as stable next month or two |
| 10:14.59 | Nixew | Speaking of which, is it better to upgrade from stretch 9.8 to buster, or directly reinstall to buster? |
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| 10:18.02 | BCMM | Nixew: it's probably more trouble to reinstall |
| 10:18.05 | EdePopede | never ever upgraded. only did backup $HOME if necessary (own partition), also /etc (for changes i made there) and /usr/local and then installed the new release. |
| 10:18.24 | EdePopede | a good opportunity to clean up the mess in the profile ;) |
| 10:19.10 | Nozzzle | so what can I do? |
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| 10:24.45 | Nixew | BCMM: More trouble? If you mean installing all manually-installed packages again, that's no trouble for me. |
| 10:25.08 | Nixew | Otherwise, I don't know what you meant. |
| 10:25.49 | rant | I also plan to backup and reinstall for the same reason EdePopede mentioned, but usually an upgrade is fine, and thats what I've always done.. but in this case I have a lot of clutter and backports that would possibly screw up my upgrade |
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| 10:27.44 | Nixew | Sounds like a plan. I will do it the same way. |
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| 10:28.48 | rant | one reason I never did things this way was due to time it'd take to reinstall and not having enough space to backup.. but now I have a core i5 with an ssd and plenty of backup storage |
| 10:29.20 | rant | this is also the first time I ever had a full DE installed from backports so.. :P |
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| 10:32.56 | EdePopede | finally we have a good sistem size to disk size ratio. would need only around 10GB diskspace to make a complete system dump. and available disk space is measured in terabytes now, so i'll even keep my old squeeze around for a while. |
| 10:33.35 | petn-randall | rant: OS-* nicks aren't bots. They're Kali users that don't know how to find the right channel. |
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| 10:33.51 | lancelot_of | hello |
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| 10:34.13 | lancelot_of | after my last stretch dist-upgrade (two days ago) my system is no more bootable |
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| 10:34.44 | lancelot_of | with a live distro I see all my data and system |
| 10:34.51 | rant | petn-randall: yes I know this now.. they were just behaving strangely and had rather odd user data |
| 10:34.54 | lancelot_of | so robably is a grub issue? |
| 10:35.00 | petn-randall | lancelot_of: How does it fail at boot? |
| 10:35.25 | lancelot_of | petn-randall, the bios does not see grub anymore, so no OS availabe |
| 10:35.27 | rant | petn-randall: I've since looked in detail into these wanna be hackers.. |
| 10:35.42 | petn-randall | !fixmbr |
| 10:35.42 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 10:35.49 | petn-randall | lancelot_of: This might help ^^^ |
| 10:36.08 | petn-randall | Though it's not clear to me how the grub could get lost. I've never heard that happen on dist-upgrade. |
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| 10:36.57 | lancelot_of | petn-randall, it asked me if install mantainer version of grub.conf or mantain the actual (user) version |
| 10:37.12 | lancelot_of | I installed the mantainer version |
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| 10:40.44 | EdePopede | shouldn't this step produce a backup of the old mbr? |
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| 10:59.41 | lancelot_of | petn-randall, I get grub-install: will not proceed with blocklists |
| 11:00.39 | lancelot_of | does it mean grub is installed anyway or not? |
| 11:01.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps how do i get https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/rxvt-unicode/urxvt-extensions.1.en.html this installed i dont see it in apt repo.. |
| 11:01.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | urxvt: perl extension 'keyboard-select' not found in perl library search path |
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| 11:03.39 | lancelot_of | !rescue mode |
| 11:03.39 | dpkg | Debian-Installer has a recovery ('rescue') mode, which can be used to reinstall the GRUB or LILO boot loaders. See section 8.7 of the <install guide> ("Recovering a Broken System") for more details: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch08s07.html.en |
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| 11:21.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 11:36.19 | zleap | grrr |
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| 11:47.08 | Ormu | hello, if I use these scripts --> https://github.com/drtyhlpr/rpi23-gen-image to build a Debian system for a RasPi, how does kernel updating work after installation? Can I install the stock kernel from Debian repositories afterwards? |
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| 11:49.13 | Ormu | the script compiles a raspberry pi specific kernel from sources, and there's also a fork that builds a vanilla kernel. But in case an important kernel update is released, I'd rather install it from the repositories, not by recompiling |
| 11:51.15 | BCMM | Ormu: i don't think debian ships a proper raspberry pi kernel |
| 11:51.27 | Ormu | hm |
| 11:51.36 | BCMM | Ormu: most people probably use raspbian, which is very close to stock debian |
| 11:51.43 | Ormu | true |
| 11:52.21 | zleap | the pi kernel will have various drivers for the hardware |
| 11:52.27 | zleap | or hardware support at least |
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| 11:53.52 | BCMM | it's worth pointing out that it's not like ubuntu or something. raspbian stretch just consists of almost every debian stretch package, automatically recompiled to optimise for the pi's CPU |
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| 11:54.10 | BCMM | (plus a handful of extra packages like a custom kernel, tools to take advantage of hardware video decode, etc.) |
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| 11:54.51 | BCMM | but you can basically treat it exactly like debian, expect to find the exact same versions of packages, etc. |
| 11:55.01 | Ormu | hm |
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| 11:57.46 | Ormu | I just though plain debian would be more... convenient for me :P |
| 11:58.15 | Ormu | but maybe I'll try Raspbian after all |
| 11:59.56 | Deihmos | To update to 9.9 all you do is apt upgrade right |
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| 12:01.50 | BCMM | Deihmos: yes. https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190427 |
| 12:02.00 | BCMM | 'Users of other tools such as "apt" and "aptitude" should use the "upgrade" command.' |
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| 12:19.55 | Ormu | BCMM: what sort of kernels are provided in the Debian ARM repositories? Or are there any kernels at all? |
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| 12:20.06 | BCMM | Ormu: not really sure, honestly |
| 12:20.32 | BCMM | Ormu: but https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi says debian works "with a custom kernel" |
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| 12:21.44 | Ormu | yes... and the script that I was going to use compiles such a kernel, apparently |
| 12:22.00 | Ormu | but then there is a fork of it (https://github.com/michaelfranzl/rpi23-gen-image) which claims to compile a vanilla Linux kernel |
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| 12:24.39 | babylon | some packages were held back after apt upgrading, like icedtea-netx |
| 12:24.53 | babylon | anything important I missed? |
| 12:25.15 | Ormu | if you do dist-upgrade, it deletes some Java plugins |
| 12:26.10 | babylon | Ormu, ok thanks, let me do this |
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| 12:27.18 | nkuttler | babylon: the release notes |
| 12:29.13 | BCMM | Ormu: i don't know what support is like in mainline linux for the pi |
| 12:29.50 | BCMM | i know that raspbian and yocto both pretty much use the raspberrypi foundation kernel https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux |
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| 12:30.53 | BCMM | i mean they basically do open-source properly for the most part, and the pi has been around for a long time, so i'd hope that all the really vital stuff is upstream by now |
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| 12:47.10 | krion | yes |
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| 13:48.14 | mtn | NotSoFastJames: no, but about 2/3 of them, though |
| 13:48.18 | dvs | NotSoFastJames, not all but a lot |
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| 14:34.55 | victorqueiroz | I just got a lock up while using my AMD Ryzen. This is very frustrating. Can somebody help me? |
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| 14:39.18 | qqz | I would like to extend firefox to use the SCTP for parallel HTTP/1.1 connections avoiding TCP-head-of-line blocking |
| 14:39.31 | qqz | that seems to me more promising than SPDY/QUIC |
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| 14:39.55 | qqz | is anyone here who could assist me with compiling and getting into the sources? |
| 14:40.01 | qqz | or where should I ask? |
| 14:40.45 | rant | perhaps in a firefox dev channel.. compiling a modern browser is no simple task |
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| 14:40.56 | rant | going to require some serious resources |
| 14:41.33 | n_1-c_k | victorqueiroz: try https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/?search=ryzen |
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| 14:42.35 | victorqueiroz | n_1-c_k: what is thits |
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| 14:48.15 | victorqueiroz | Are you saying I should buy another CPU? |
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| 14:53.22 | phazon | victorqueiroz: what kernel are you running? |
| 14:54.06 | victorqueiroz | phazon: 4.19.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 with the following parameters: quiet idle=nomwait processor.max_cstate=0 workqueue.power_efficient=0 intel_iommu=off intel_idle.max_cstate=0i noaliencache=0 nohalt=1 ppc_strict_facility_enable=0 print-fatal-signals=on |
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| 14:56.32 | phazon | if the machine isnt running in production, you might consider the 5.x series in experimental (until its backported when the freeze is over); which has introduced a number of improvements for amd's zen architecture |
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| 14:57.25 | victorqueiroz | phazon: How can I get it? I compiled it 2 days ago but it is stucked on pinguin logo :( |
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| 15:03.43 | phazon | victorqueiroz: this shows how to enable and pull in pkgs: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental |
| 15:04.29 | phazon | https://packages.debian.org/experimental/kernel/linux-image-5.0.0-trunk-amd64 |
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| 15:06.07 | zPlus | hi I'm trying to update to the last release debian 9.9 but it looks like I've hit a dependency issue. default-jre RECOMMENDS default-java-plugin default-java-plugin DEPENDS icedtea-8-plugin icedtea-8-plugin DEPENDS icedtea-netx (= 1.6.2-3.1) The problem is that aptitude wants to upgrade icedtea-netx to 1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1. Should I just fix this manually or is Debian supposed to not generate these |
| 15:06.09 | zPlus | kind of conflicts? On this system I've always only used aptitude, so everything automatic and nothing changed manually before |
| 15:06.28 | victorqueiroz | phazon: So I should install only 5.0 kernel, right? |
| 15:07.26 | victorqueiroz | I mean, it won't break my system. Will it? |
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| 15:07.39 | themill | zPlus: the java plugin is dead and needs to be removed |
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| 15:08.22 | themill | (a dist-upgrade will do this for you) |
| 15:08.41 | zPlus | themill: oki, thanks! |
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| 15:09.18 | phazon | victorqueiroz: there is the chance it could bork something, as with any kernel upgrade; just keep the old kernels laying around to boot back into if somethig goes wrong, and you should be ok. |
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| 15:11.27 | victorqueiroz | Ok, thanks. I'm already using it. Let's see what happens |
| 15:11.43 | phazon | victorqueiroz: you're already getting cpu lockups (which is nuts); if something is amiss with 5.x from experimental, let ben and the kernel team know so they can fix it |
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| 15:32.40 | trebor_home | hello. might someone give me some advices about debian-live on usb-stick? (copied it as adviced (dd ...), but it does not get detected as bootable device) |
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| 15:55.31 | toruvinn | hello, a bit of a problem here. im trying to run qemu not as root and use tap for networking. always get this: qemu-system-x86_64: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no,downscript=no: could not configure /dev/net/tun (tap0): Operation not permitted. now, /dev/net/tun is actually currently rw for me, but from what i've read the problem is qemu is trying to create a new tap device. solution for that was tunctl -t |
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| 15:55.38 | toruvinn | tap0 -g somegroup, which says it made tap0 persistent and owned by somegroup, but... i cant find it in /dev/*. and qemu still errors out. |
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| 15:56.43 | Vasistha | I've just installed debian on a new hard drive. Unfortunately it appears that somehow grub was not installed on the MBR. So I plugged in the installer usb stick again, and am looking at the grub menu. I'd like to boot into the freshly installed debian from here. The first thing I want to do is change the background to black, because the debian grub background makes it difficult to read |
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| 16:00.13 | toruvinn | Vasistha, no idea about colours tbh, but i'd go around ls-ing various (hdx,x) to find your boot partition (unless you remember some file name which has to be htere, probably grub/grub.cfg (though not sure if you installed grub at all...), you can use 'search') |
| 16:00.30 | Vasistha | thanks toruvinn |
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| 16:00.37 | toruvinn | Vasistha, once you find it, set your root to it and all you need to do is just load the kernel and initrd. it'll look kinda like... gimme a sec |
| 16:01.07 | n4dir | you can install grub from the installation media. |
| 16:01.18 | toruvinn | Vasistha, set color_normal=light-gray/black |
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| 16:01.21 | toruvinn | just btw |
| 16:01.22 | n4dir | the first choice you have to make, but i forgot what exactly |
| 16:02.09 | Vasistha | thanks guys, working on this -- got distracted by a phone call, will follow these instructions as soon as I can and get back to you |
| 16:02.11 | toruvinn | n4dir, rescue? |
| 16:02.20 | n4dir | probably, toruvinn |
| 16:03.06 | lancelot_of | !supergrub |
| 16:03.06 | dpkg | Super Grub Disk and Super Grub2 Disk are forks of <GRUB Legacy> and <GRUB2> respectively, which can be used to repair existing GNU GRUB installations. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ See also <fixmbr>. |
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| 16:03.28 | Vasistha | ooh, thanks, I'm going to chat up dpkg |
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| 16:05.21 | toruvinn | Vasistha, if you decide to just try to boot from your install grub, you can do something like this: https://serverfault.com/questions/482079/debian-boot-to-single-user-mode <- basically you need to find your /boot partition to be able to load kernel from it (mentioned previously how). then you linux /some/kernel root=/dev/rootdevice (you remember your rootdevice, right?) and initrd /some/initrd. i cant |
| 16:05.26 | __marco | Hello. Does anyone use Gitlab CI to create deb packages? |
| 16:05.28 | toruvinn | give you paths cause those tend to include versions. that link has an example of what a 'standard'-ish debian entry looks like. |
| 16:05.31 | toruvinn | except very old one |
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| 16:08.14 | Vasistha | toruvinn: thanks! |
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| 16:13.59 | lancelot_of | !fixmbr |
| 16:13.59 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 16:14.33 | Vasistha | toruvinn, n4dir: the grub-install target is like /dev/sda not /dev/sda1 correct? |
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| 16:16.46 | toruvinn | Vasistha, well that depends. but since you said 'on a new harddrive' it's likely that's the case |
| 16:16.57 | toruvinn | Vasistha, how large is the harddrive btw? are you using uefi? |
| 16:17.10 | toruvinn | Vasistha, im wondering, perhaps you forgot to set up the EFI partition... |
| 16:18.08 | Vasistha | toruvinn: the efi partition is there. Part of dpkg's fixmbr was to mount /boot/efi, and that happened successfully. It's a 960GB SSD from corsair |
| 16:18.43 | Vasistha | It has partitions for efi, root, swap, and home |
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| 16:19.17 | Vasistha | no crypto or lvm or anything |
| 16:20.06 | Vasistha | well, it's done. We'll see now if it worked. |
| 16:20.56 | toruvinn | good luck! |
| 16:21.55 | Vasistha | nope, it's still not taking. The bios/uefi boot menu shows the drive, and I can select it and try to boot from it, but it doesn't boot, and then shows me the boot menu again. |
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| 16:25.51 | Vasistha | this is a lenovo ideapad z570 which has some weird issues. Some usb drives it refuses to boot from (e.g. for live cd or install) and some others work fine. super weird. But since the drive is showing up on the boot menu, I would expect it to work. And I previously managed to use a live image grub boot menu to boot into this newly installed corsair drive, so I know that debian is mostly installed correctly. It just won't start grub. |
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| 16:36.00 | toruvinn | Vasistha, uefi. do you have secureboot on in bios? |
| 16:36.13 | toruvinn | Vasistha, you'll probably need to disable that and there's another one option apart from that, hm |
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| 16:42.54 | Vasistha | toruvinn: I'm pretty sure secureboot is not on. When I look at the bios screen, it gives a BIOS version - so perhaps this is not even using EFI / UEFI. Is there another way to be sure? |
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| 16:47.43 | toruvinn | Vasistha, i dont think installer would install uefi stuff for you if it did not boot in uefi (in particular, /sys/firmware/efi is not available if you dont run in uefi) |
| 16:47.54 | toruvinn | Vasistha, please try to find that secureboot option in bios. |
| 16:48.02 | derekv | I've got an issue, I have some cloud instances that are getting created, on boot they install ebtables and conntrack. Up till friday this was fine, however today I am getting an error that these packages are "unauthenticated"? How can I start troubleshooting this issue? (uname -v "SMP Debian 4.9.110-3+deb9u2 (2018-08-13)" |
| 16:48.03 | toruvinn | Vasistha, there's another one next to it, but i forgot the name :-/ |
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| 16:57.27 | lancelot_of | try to re-make the question |
| 16:58.14 | jhutchins | toruvinn: Fast Boot maybe? Does bad things when dual-booting. |
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| 16:59.18 | lancelot_of | one week ago I updated my stretch distro on my lenovo x1 carbon. then grub disappeared and my system was not available anymore |
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| 16:59.32 | lancelot_of | checking with live distro alla data and partitions are still there |
| 16:59.49 | lancelot_of | tried fixmbr and rescatux but no success to restore grub |
| 16:59.57 | lancelot_of | please help dunno what to do |
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| 17:03.42 | veverak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:04.41 | toruvinn | lancelot_of, if your /boot isn't toast, then you probably just need to reinstall grub... |
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| 17:08.40 | lancelot_of | toruvinn, eactly what I cannot do, reinstall grub |
| 17:08.47 | karlpinc | lancelot_of: I'd start by making sure you have a backup. Then also check smartctl of the smartmontools package to see if the disks think they're failing. |
| 17:09.07 | lancelot_of | toruvinn, no advanced options from debian iso images to run grub from |
| 17:09.35 | lancelot_of | karlpinc, the problem is grub |
| 17:09.37 | karlpinc | lancelot_of: The install disk (may as well use the netinstall) has a rescue mode. |
| 17:09.58 | karlpinc | lancelot_of: It has an option to re-install grub. |
| 17:10.13 | lancelot_of | karlpinc, didn't find that rescue option |
| 17:10.36 | lancelot_of | neither in netinstall or in dvd1 iso |
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| 17:10.46 | karlpinc | lancelot_of: It may be under "expert" or "advanced" when booting. I forget. You could read the instructions in the install guide. |
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| 17:11.13 | derekv | Hey all, not sure how exactly it was failing but clearing my squid proxy cache seems to have resolved the issue (hopefully). |
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| 17:19.32 | Vasistha | toruvinn: I don't see any secure boot options in the z570 bios. Looking around google, I haven't found any references to people using secure boot on this laptop. |
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| 17:21.08 | Vasistha | I am seeing plenty of people having issues getting this thing to boot. Wondering if I should just get a new laptop for my wife because this one has been causing many different people headaches, myself included |
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| 17:28.06 | n1ce | secure boot acts like placebo IMO |
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| 17:42.23 | victorqueiroz | Changing the kernel didn't help. I just got a lock up AGAIN. This is so annoying! |
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| 17:47.42 | victorqueiroz | I'm trying to update my BIOS to latest version. |
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| 18:03.34 | phazon | when, and what is the machine doing before it locks up? returning from suspend? etc |
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| 18:04.19 | phazon | victorqueiroz: ^^ |
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| 18:07.07 | victorqueiroz | phazon: It is completely random. I'm starting to think that my CPU is f*cked or something. but I NEVER had this on Windows, that's why I think it's a Linux kernel problem or so. Either way I started having it a lot more after I leave my computer turned on without interacting with it too often. What happens is this: I can't switch numlock on/off, can't move mouse, can't restart the computer by the keyboard, nor change |
| 18:07.07 | victorqueiroz | system terminal with ctrl+alt+f1/f2/f3 etc |
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| 18:07.24 | victorqueiroz | So I usually just hold power button and wait until the computer turns off, and then I turn it on again with power button! |
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| 18:41.20 | lancelot_of | !FIXMBR |
| 18:41.20 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 18:48.48 | EdePopede | victorqueiroz: for the sake of your open files and your fs you should take the REISUB challenge instead. saved me a lot of fsck's and some data losses after reboot in the past. just for the case: https://askubuntu.com/questions/926461 |
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| 18:50.13 | EdePopede | victorqueiroz: and still no hint in the logs? i had at least that message about the softlock after 23s a lot of times. also keeping a terminal in the foreground could give some info, should the kernel feel the need to write down something before and when it happens |
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| 18:51.04 | victorqueiroz | I'm keeping a terminal on with htop opened through ssh. Any other recommendations? |
| 18:52.20 | EdePopede | one of the symptoms in my case was overheating, at some point a was afraid to let the sensors even show me something more than 50°C, later even less |
| 18:52.49 | victorqueiroz | How can I check temperature through command line? |
| 18:53.10 | EdePopede | and i'm not sure if the text would appear in the window with htop, a simple terminal open in a corner should be fine. or if you go away simply on a visible position |
| 18:53.21 | victorqueiroz | EdePopede: these are my last 1000 lines out of /var/log/kern.log: https://termbin.com/oc3yc |
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| 18:53.40 | spackle259 | im not sure if you can read your temperature or if dmesg reads you the temp |
| 18:54.05 | EdePopede | victorqueiroz: lm-sensors |
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| 18:55.16 | victorqueiroz | Seems fine to me. Let's see https://termbin.com/fraz |
| 18:55.52 | EdePopede | victorqueiroz: and should you want to keep an eye on temps (or some other stuff) i'd recommend conky. had a "sidebar" full with its stuff. |
| 18:56.44 | victorqueiroz | Can I use it on gnome? |
| 18:57.38 | EdePopede | desktop independent. it writes to the root window or optionally into a normal one. depends on the settings, you'd maybe have to play a bit with them |
| 18:58.30 | EdePopede | i had some problems with its layers on xfce, the text was written below the wallpaper depending on the settings, which is a bit suboptimal :D |
| 18:58.57 | EdePopede | starting it with the alt-f2 thingy right after login solved the issue |
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| 18:59.14 | mariok | Hello |
| 19:00.03 | mariok | I do have a problem with my audio setup. After a Debian System Update a few months ago I had the problem that the audio works only sometimes. I did have to reboot my system several times until the internal audio got recognized. |
| 19:00.11 | EdePopede | victorqueiroz: what does usually follow the last entries from your paste? |
| 19:00.35 | victorqueiroz | EdePopede: What do you mean? |
| 19:00.37 | mariok | today I did reboot my system aprox 10 times in a row and the sound does not work yet. I git "dummy output" in pulse audio |
| 19:00.53 | mariok | how can I debug the audio system in Debian? |
| 19:01.08 | EdePopede | mariok: the hardware gets recognized? had a similar rare issue with the eth, and also sometimes with the sound |
| 19:01.09 | mariok | pulseaudio tells me "dummy output" |
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| 19:01.26 | mariok | EdePopede: do you mean lspci? |
| 19:01.56 | mariok | lspci |
| 19:01.58 | mariok | [...] |
| 19:01.59 | mariok | 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21) |
| 19:02.11 | EdePopede | victorqueiroz, the last line > Apr 28 15:03:52 debian-desktop kernel: [ 8.985282] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11 -- what follows it when the boot process works? may hang here at the next thing happening |
| 19:02.25 | EdePopede | mariok: you have sound now? |
| 19:02.35 | mariok | no I don't have sound now |
| 19:02.48 | EdePopede | lsmod looks ok? |
| 19:02.50 | mariok | pulse audio tells me "Dummy Output" |
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| 19:04.13 | EdePopede | and this on? > pacmd list-cards |
| 19:05.15 | mariok | https://paste.gnome.org/pb6i4p2t4/njsmww |
| 19:05.31 | mariok | ^^^ this is my lsmod |
| 19:05.57 | EdePopede | heh, gnome's paste is ways better than ubuntu's |
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| 19:06.13 | mariok | System is a Lenovo T460 |
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| 19:06.25 | spackle259 | EdePopede: /exit |
| 19:06.30 | indomitable | mariok, lenovos are for the weak |
| 19:06.45 | indomitable | I'm running irc on a series of vacuum tubes |
| 19:06.47 | mariok | pacmd list-cards |
| 19:06.47 | mariok | 0 card(s) available. |
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| 19:07.25 | mariok | after a Debian System update a few month ago I had the situation that I needed to reboot the system several times to get the audio working |
| 19:07.42 | mariok | I had to reboot the systems 2-3 times in the past. |
| 19:07.52 | mariok | but today I did reboot my system 10 times without success. |
| 19:08.19 | mariok | is there a way to reload the whole audio modules? |
| 19:09.20 | mariok | what can i do next to debug the audio system? |
| 19:09.45 | EdePopede | mariok, found that one > pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload |
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| 19:10.14 | EdePopede | and this one looks good? > lspci -nnk | grep -A2 Audio |
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| 19:10.59 | mariok | # alsa force-reload |
| 19:11.00 | mariok | -bash: alsa: command not found |
| 19:11.05 | mariok | ^^^ in the root shell |
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| 19:12.15 | mariok | EdePopede: https://paste.gnome.org/p4u76cpdu/agf3wy |
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| 19:13.02 | mariok | rmmod snd_hda_intel && modprobe snd_hda_intel |
| 19:13.02 | mariok | rmmod: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use |
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| 19:13.38 | mariok | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:13.39 | mariok | buster/sid |
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| 19:14.49 | mariok | what can I do next? |
| 19:19.09 | mariok | yes lspci looks good. |
| 19:19.20 | mariok | what can I do next to debug my sudio setup? |
| 19:20.35 | EdePopede | i don't have that command either, hm. and google even has an exact search entry, but when i quote it it doesn't find it. great. |
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| 19:21.21 | mariok | I'll do a dist-upgrade now. |
| 19:21.24 | mariok | and then reboot |
| 19:21.45 | mariok | is there a systemd service that I can reboot? |
| 19:21.53 | mariok | s/reboot/restart |
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| 19:33.03 | agc | Good afternoon. |
| 19:34.43 | agc | \exit |
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| 19:38.29 | JohnDoe2 | is there a relatively easy way to download packages on one platform and then transfer them to another? Right now I'm using aptitude -r download <package-name> but it doesn't pull any dependencies |
| 19:38.52 | JohnDoe2 | it just downloads that one package I specify. Then I copy it over to the internet-less device and I get a bunch of crap about how this and that dependency is not met |
| 19:41.38 | jmcnaught | !apt offline |
| 19:41.38 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://bit.ly/1UYVX5g . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>. |
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| 19:42.17 | mariok | Hello |
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| 19:42.44 | mariok | I did "apt-get dist-upgrade" and after that I tried "booting the system, looking in pulseaudio --> Dummy Output --> reboot |
| 19:43.09 | mariok | I did reboot the system 10 times in a row and all 10 boots I did have the "Dummy Output". |
| 19:43.29 | mariok | is there something I can do to repair my sound setup? |
| 19:44.30 | mariok | As I already wrote a few days before now I did have the situation the sometimes I got the "Dummy Output" in Pulseaudio. A reboot did solve the issue in the past. |
| 19:44.43 | mariok | but Today I did reboot the system at leas 15 times without success. |
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| 19:44.46 | mawk | sounds like a race condition |
| 19:44.56 | mawk | some services are competing during startup |
| 19:45.10 | mawk | you can maybe print out a boot log from systemd from a time it works, and another time it doesn't work, and compare them |
| 19:45.45 | mariok | mawk: I did reboot the system 15 times withtout success |
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| 19:46.01 | mariok | so I can't print a boot log in "working condition" |
| 19:46.37 | mariok | pacmd list-cards |
| 19:46.37 | mariok | 0 card(s) available. |
| 19:46.38 | mawk | yeah that's a little blocking detail |
| 19:46.58 | mariok | which systemd service does the sound driver stuff? |
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| 19:49.18 | mariok | what can I do next? |
| 19:49.21 | mariok | please help |
| 19:49.49 | mawk | you can also try on ##linux maybe |
| 19:50.07 | mariok | another irc channel? |
| 19:50.23 | mariok | is'nt it a debian related issue? |
| 19:50.31 | EdePopede | mariok: just an idea, do you have a live disc? |
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| 19:51.24 | JohnDoe2 | jmcnaught apt-offline depends on ... Can't I just copy all .deb to a USB disk from say, DVD isos? |
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| 19:52.16 | EdePopede | mawk: that was my problems with the network sometimes: eth needed took too long and until it was there the system had given up starting the network. |
| 19:52.47 | mawk | yeah it gives itself like 30 seconds |
| 19:52.53 | mawk | to wait for network |
| 19:53.10 | mariok | EdePopede: I don't have a LiveCD USB stick ready at the moment. |
| 19:53.19 | EdePopede | may be ok for a server, but is completely insane for a home PC |
| 19:53.58 | EdePopede | debian isn't XP, no need to reboot 3 times a day |
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| 19:54.33 | EdePopede | and all these reboots did cost me more time than a serial workflow would have needed |
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| 19:55.20 | mariok | EdePopede: in the past a reboot did resolve my issue. |
| 19:55.37 | mariok | after 2-3 times rebooting the system and the sound card did work in the past. |
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| 19:55.58 | mariok | i don't know if it's a software or a hardware issue. |
| 19:56.07 | EdePopede | hardware is what changes over time, not software. so you maybe have a hardware issue which is getting worse and now the system can handle it less than in the past |
| 19:56.33 | mariok | that could be the case. yes |
| 19:56.51 | EdePopede | had this problem with an old board, at the end i had to press the power button repeatedly and keep it press. like a starter for some old engine |
| 19:56.55 | mariok | I'm preparing a grml LiveCD USB stick |
| 19:57.24 | EdePopede | mariok: maybe you should stay with your normal distro to keep it more comparable |
| 19:57.26 | mariok | In my case It's a Lenovo T460 Laptop |
| 19:57.58 | EdePopede | bought a used M82 last year, runs fantastic with stretch |
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| 20:07.16 | mariok | now I'm writing a grml ISO to an USB stick and try to boot from that stick. |
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| 20:15.05 | JohnDoe2 | yup, bump apt-offline, ISO to usbstick is the way to go |
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| 20:16.26 | johnjay | does the bot tell you package version info? |
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| 20:17.16 | johnjay | i wanted to know what gdb version was real quick for stretch and buster |
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| 20:18.34 | Habbie | johnjay, i know nothing about the bot but i know the packages.debian.org site can tell yo |
| 20:18.36 | Habbie | you |
| 20:20.04 | echoSMILE | Hi. I'm trying to install nginx stable version and I got: https://pastebin.com/ETKKP7et , any idea? |
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| 20:21.20 | Habbie | echoSMILE, probably best to uninstall nginx-full first |
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| 20:21.40 | Habbie | echoSMILE, and then complain to the provider of nginx_1.16.0 that they should add a Conflicts line |
| 20:22.31 | echoSMILE | Habbie provider? I'm doing it directly from nginx.org |
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| 20:23.48 | echoSMILE | following this article: https://joshtronic.com/2018/12/17/how-to-install-the-latest-nginx-on-debian-and-ubuntu/ |
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| 20:33.48 | nixew | Oops. |
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| 20:38.23 | cybercrypto | :-) Debian 9.9 is out there.... we are getting close to the next major release... |
| 20:38.26 | Nozzzle | hello, I left the computer to hibernate while the VM was full screen..I've just resumed the session, and now the VM is shown running but the VM screen is all black |
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| 20:38.36 | Nozzzle | VM is qemu-kvm |
| 20:39.12 | cybercrypto | Nozzzle: can you ssh into the vm? |
| 20:39.30 | cybercrypto | Nozzzle: I mean, can you access the guestOS via ssh? |
| 20:39.38 | Nozzzle | cybercrypto, I haven't tried. |
| 20:40.30 | cybercrypto | Nozzzle: we dont know for sure what problem is at this point.... but I may say that if it is accessible via ssh... we could workaround |
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| 20:41.42 | Nozzzle | cybercrypto, I was just wondering if I could retrieve the display without having to restart VM. |
| 20:42.18 | maxxe | I'm creating a Debian package from an upstream tarball. But I have a question... What happens when a new release comes out...? Shall I save the files created by dh_make under debian/* (which I've edited of course) for further use? In a Git branch or something? What's the approach? |
| 20:43.06 | cybercrypto | Nozzzle: accessing via ssh you could check X server status, export display into another X server.... and even kill/restart X to login again.. (no vm reboot) |
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| 20:44.06 | Nozzzle | thanks, cybercrypto, but I don't know how to do those. I am tight on time, apparently I should restart. |
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| 20:45.17 | Nozzzle | and as it seems, I shouldn't let the computer go to sleep when I have the VM full screen |
| 20:46.27 | cybercrypto | Nozzzle: Ok. if time is one of your constraints now.. go ahead and do what you decide for. But remember to run some tests with display variable using ssh forwarding later... it is really good and can save you in many critical situations where you are 'headless' ;-) |
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| 20:48.08 | Nozzzle | cybercrypto, thank you for your help, I appreciate the value of getting savvy in these. |
| 20:49.01 | cybercrypto | Nozzzle: np. good luck. |
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| 20:50.23 | Habbie | echoSMILE, then nginx.org is the provider you should complain to |
| 20:51.02 | echoSMILE | Habbie a 'conflicts line' is instruction to be compatible with debian system ? |
| 20:51.25 | Habbie | echoSMILE, a 'conflicts line' would cause apt/dpkg to remove your existing nginx before attempting to install theirs |
| 20:51.39 | Habbie | echoSMILE, instead of you running into a conflict during installation because they both own /usr/bin/nginx |
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| 20:53.03 | echoSMILE | Habbie but if I do it in a manual way, I don't need to depend of any conflict line from providers right? |
| 20:53.10 | Habbie | echoSMILE, if you first remove your nginx, sure |
| 20:53.56 | echoSMILE | ok. by the way, if I remove nginx package, all /etc/nginx goes away ? |
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| 20:55.46 | Habbie | echoSMILE, it shouldn't, unless you use 'purge', but i make no promises |
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| 20:57.03 | echoSMILE | Hm. ok. tks |
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| 22:11.44 | petn-randall | Kryczek: It would help if you explain what you tried, and what "didn't work". |
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| 22:20.28 | Kryczek | petn-randall: Hi! Thank you for the reply :) I tried doing just like /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/pattern-matching and the "PATTERN MATCHING INTERFACES" section of `man interfaces`, for example "allow-hotplug /en*/=foo" (or with "auto" instead of "allow-hotplug") followed by "iface foo inet dhcp" and even "iface foo inet6 auto" but apart from "lo" (which is not pattern-matched) no interface ever gets |
| 22:20.34 | Kryczek | brought up |
| 22:21.33 | NappyPappy | nice , I started using linux redhat in 1997 then in 1999 I installed Debian slink. Now I am using again. It is slower than slackware but still good |
| 22:21.57 | Kryczek | I also tried matching wireless interfaces with "allow-hotplug /wl*/=bar" or "auto wireless/*/1=baz" but still no luck |
| 22:22.08 | NappyPappy | I tried installing arch linux and a slackware-current before debian stretch but I had to abort those missions |
| 22:23.52 | Kryczek | I added a logging script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ and I see that it gets called only for IFACE=lo and IFACE=--all |
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| 22:25.10 | Kryczek | Is it possible that systemd is hijacking /etc/network/interfaces away from ifupdown, and supporting only basic syntax? |
| 22:27.20 | petn-randall | Kryczek: Try showing the exact things you tested instead of examples, it makes it easier to debug. If you don't have a logical interfaces section wifor "foo" then nothing will happen. |
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| 22:27.54 | Kryczek | petn-randall: I called it literally "foo" :) |
| 22:28.19 | Kryczek | I tried various names in case their was some kind of name clash or recursive pattern matching |
| 22:29.18 | Kryczek | If I try to manually `ifup enp0s3` or whatever interface, ifup always says "unknown interface", but then again I don't know if ifup'ing a specific interface is supposed to work when /etc/network/interfaces only contains patterns (besides lo) |
| 22:29.38 | Kryczek | if I add a section for enp0s3 then it works, of course, but I lose the whole point of pattern matching |
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| 22:32.42 | petn-randall | Kryczek: systemd neither [4~ knows nor does anything with your network configuration. |
| 22:32.55 | petn-randall | Kryczek: you're still describing the file, instead of showing it. |
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| 22:35.54 | imzadi | does squeeze precede stretch? |
| 22:36.02 | Kryczek | petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/1080473/ |
| 22:36.36 | petn-randall | imzadi: By several releases, yes. |
| 22:37.07 | Kryczek | imzadi: Debian 6 (squeeze), 7 (wheezy), 8 (jessie), 9 (stretch), 10 (buster) |
| 22:37.26 | imzadi | is it not practible to install an fdroid server on squeeze? |
| 22:37.44 | petn-randall | imzadi: Try asking a concrete question. |
| 22:38.48 | imzadi | well the instructions talk of having stretch or higher |
| 22:39.03 | imzadi | and then there is mention of older using wheezy |
| 22:39.12 | imzadi | but wheezy is debian 4 isnt it |
| 22:39.13 | petn-randall | !squeeze |
| 22:39.13 | dpkg | Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" was released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Security support for Squeeze ended on 2014-05-31, but ask me about <squeeze-lts>. Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze ; ask me about <install squeeze> <squeeze release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. Currently <6.0.10>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
| 22:39.36 | imzadi | !wheezy |
| 22:39.36 | dpkg | Wheezy is the current <oldoldstable> release, Debian 7, released on 2013-05-04: https://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 ; security support ended on 2016-04-25. Wheezy is the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie. See https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy and ask me about <install wheezy> <wheezy release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Final update <7.11>. Consider upgrading. |
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| 22:40.20 | petn-randall | imzadi: Given that squeeze is not supported anymore, why not use a supported Debian release? |
| 22:40.33 | imzadi | yeah petn-randall it looks like it isnt going to work on this system |
| 22:40.35 | petn-randall | Kryczek: So what happens if you run `ifup -v wlan0`? |
| 22:40.45 | petn-randall | imzadi: Define "doesn't work". |
| 22:40.55 | imzadi | it isnt really that old |
| 22:41.02 | petn-randall | Eh? |
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| 22:41.21 | NappyPappy | Kryczek: systemd highjacked my wifi interface while I was trying to install arch linux so I grabbed debian stretch fully knowing it had systemd but knowing debian developers are not stupid like arch. All because slackware-current freezes on me after install. |
| 22:41.27 | imzadi | doesnt work , when something runs and fails to do anything it was written to do |
| 22:41.39 | imzadi | why do you ask for precise defines |
| 22:41.50 | petn-randall | NappyPappy: Do you have a support question |
| 22:42.03 | petn-randall | imzadi: *What* doesn't work when installing a supported OS? |
| 22:42.33 | imzadi | knoppix is apparently written by some german hacker using the name Klause Knopper |
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| 22:43.05 | Kryczek | petn-randall: it says "unknown interface" (and the verbosity does not add anything to it) |
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| 22:43.52 | Kryczek | petn-randall: however, interestingly if I run `ifup --all` then the wifi interface gets activated, I guess because it is the only kind with "auto" (wired has "allow-hotplug") |
| 22:44.36 | Kryczek | petn-randall: then again that same interface was not activated at boot, in other words the first `ifup --all` was ran too early |
| 22:44.49 | imzadi | it looks like it is hacked together and goes against intended constraints |
| 22:45.21 | imzadi | the session is about installing fdroid server |
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| 22:45.49 | imzadi | the site has a howto written for stretch and above and it basicly says use apt-get |
| 22:46.47 | imzadi | which is the quickest download for installing stretch or higher, keep in mind the netinstallers dont seem to have any drivers but ethernet |
| 22:47.07 | petn-randall | imzadi: How is this related to Debian though? |
| 22:47.08 | imzadi | because of that the netinstallers are not an option |
| 22:47.09 | petn-randall | !knoppix |
| 22:47.09 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
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| 22:47.44 | imzadi | petn-randall: read the question about debian |
| 22:48.05 | imzadi | what is the quickest download for installing debian which supports fdroid server |
| 22:48.19 | petn-randall | imzadi: If you can't install stretch because of the drivers, just say so. |
| 22:48.24 | petn-randall | !firmware installer |
| 22:48.24 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 22:48.26 | imzadi | do you sell cd sets petn-randall |
| 22:48.31 | petn-randall | imzadi: no |
| 22:49.07 | imzadi | osdisk has a copy past description of a 14 dvd set |
| 22:49.10 | petn-randall | imzadi: You can use the above factoid to install stretch, even if you require non-free firmware to during installation. |
| 22:49.30 | petn-randall | imzadi: How is that related to your issue though? |
| 22:50.26 | imzadi | it isnt so much firmware this time petn-randall does the installer have an rndis module |
| 22:50.28 | petn-randall | imzadi: You don't need all disks for installation, if that's your question. |
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| 22:51.16 | imzadi | all discs can be used for a build system that doesnt snake in garbage from apt repos |
| 22:51.31 | petn-randall | imzadi: You're making less and less sense. Are you a bot? |
| 22:51.34 | imzadi | this is useful for installing any software |
| 22:51.39 | petn-randall | Markov chains? |
| 22:51.42 | imzadi | in this case fdroid server |
| 22:52.07 | imzadi | the howto shows it needing three or four packages but these packages may have any number of deps |
| 22:52.21 | petn-randall | imzadi: Why not use the apt repos then? |
| 22:52.25 | Kryczek | petn-randall: maybe I need to configure udev to launch ifup, somehow? :) |
| 22:52.35 | imzadi | if I have all discs it can all be done without snaking in sourcless packages from apt |
| 22:52.53 | petn-randall | Kryczek: You shouldn't, allow-hotplug should only work on hotplug, though. |
| 22:53.03 | Nozzzle | when is debian 10 coming? |
| 22:53.05 | petn-randall | Kryczek: Does a wifi interfaces called wlan0 exist on your system? |
| 22:53.06 | imzadi | dependency injection of garbage |
| 22:53.10 | petn-randall | Nozzzle: when it's ready. |
| 22:53.20 | petn-randall | imzadi: Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. |
| 22:53.25 | Nozzzle | any date set? |
| 22:53.34 | petn-randall | Nozzzle: when it's ready. |
| 22:53.48 | imzadi | listen closely and ask for clarification if needed, that is if you want to be useful |
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| 22:53.53 | petn-randall | !wwbr |
| 22:53.53 | dpkg | Debian 10 "Buster" started the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/04/msg00006.html . Remember that Debian releases come out when they are ready, and arrive sooner, if you help ;) |
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| 22:54.31 | petn-randall | imzadi: I'd rather not. |
| 22:54.48 | Nozzzle | ah, thank you |
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| 22:56.10 | Kryczek | petn-randall: it actually has a super long name like wlx0123456789af but I figured sticking to wlan0 was better for clarity :) it works if I specify that name, but the interface is not brought up before I do that or `ifup --all` |
| 22:56.40 | petn-randall | Kryczek: Ah, so what happens if you run `ifup -v wlx0123456789af`? |
| 22:57.16 | Kryczek | petn-randall: 23:43 < Kryczek> petn-randall: it says "unknown interface" (and the verbosity does not add anything to it) |
| 22:57.33 | petn-randall | Kryczek: Ah, so that was the correct interface name, not "wlan0". |
| 22:57.37 | Kryczek | petn-randall: I just s/wlx0123456789af/wlan0 in our conversation :) |
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| 22:58.21 | petn-randall | Kryczek: Ah, that was why I was confused. Maybe it only pattern matches digits. ifup predates the change to unique interface names. |
| 22:58.23 | Kryczek | petn-randall: what do you mean by "allow-hotplug should only work on hotplug, though" ? |
| 22:58.42 | Kryczek | ah, good point |
| 22:58.45 | petn-randall | Gotta head to bed, have a good one! |
| 22:58.52 | puhdabear | Hello |
| 22:59.07 | Kryczek | petn-randall: actually no I already tried with tap[0..9] interfaces, without luck heh |
| 22:59.18 | Kryczek | petn-randall: good night |
| 22:59.36 | mawk | can you state your tap problem again Kryczek ? |
| 23:00.22 | Kryczek | mawk: Hi! Sure :) Just a sec... |
| 23:00.38 | mawk | hi sorry |
| 23:01.17 | Kryczek | mawk: I am trying to configure interfaces without knowing their full name in advance, by using the pattern matching feature in /etc/network/interfaces like so: https://paste.debian.net/1080473/ |
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| 23:02.02 | mawk | ah right |
| 23:02.07 | Kryczek | with the new naming scheme (as far as I know) wired interfaces are supposed to get names starting with "en" and wifi interfaces start with "wl" (and wwan interfaces with "ww") |
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| 23:04.06 | Kryczek | I think my problem might be that `ifup --all` is executed only once and very early during boot (by systemd's ifupdown-pre.service helper I think?) but never after that |
| 23:04.17 | mawk | yes |
| 23:04.23 | Kryczek | well, not necessarily with "--all", I mean any kind of ifup does not happen later |
| 23:04.26 | mawk | but normally allow-hotplug interfaces are brought up when detected by udev |
| 23:04.32 | mawk | that's the purpose of the keyword |
| 23:04.39 | Kryczek | that's what I thought :) |
| 23:04.47 | Kryczek | maybe I am missing a package or something? |
| 23:05.21 | Kryczek | how can I debug that udev correctly detected them and/or tried to launch ifup ? |
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| 23:06.31 | mawk | you can drop in a script at /usr/local/bin/ifup that will log every ifup call |
| 23:06.37 | mawk | and see how udev is calling it |
| 23:07.37 | mawk | #!/bin/bash <newline> { printf '%s' "$@"; printf '\n'; } >> /tmp/ifup.log; exec /sbin/ifup "$@" |
| 23:07.38 | mawk | something like this |
| 23:08.16 | Kryczek | mawk: already did ;) I see it called twice at boot, once for --all and once for lo |
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| 23:08.58 | mawk | nice |
| 23:09.02 | mawk | well so the fault is on udev for now |
| 23:09.10 | Kryczek | I think so indeed |
| 23:09.33 | mawk | /etc/network/interfaces is clunky and a debianism and I would totally see systemd not making much efforts in making it work |
| 23:09.41 | mawk | especially since they seem eager to cannibalize udev related stuff |
| 23:09.47 | mawk | and have their own network thing |
| 23:09.49 | Kryczek | if I run `ifup --allow hotplug --all` then my /etc/network/interfaces as you can see on the pastebin, fully works |
| 23:09.56 | mawk | so you could be missing some hooks |
| 23:09.57 | mawk | yeah |
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| 23:12.28 | mawk | so, udev hooks |
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| 23:12.41 | mawk | let's see how they work |
| 23:14.17 | Kryczek | :) |
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| 23:16.59 | mawk | so first we should raise the udev log level to see more clearly what happens |
| 23:17.13 | mawk | I don't know which version of debian you have, I assume you have systemd |
| 23:17.20 | mawk | and so you have systemd-udevd |
| 23:17.44 | mawk | it has a configuration file at /etc/udev/udev.conf in which you can raise a log level |
| 23:17.53 | mawk | you add udev_log=debug |
| 23:18.30 | Kryczek | thanks, trying now... |
| 23:18.35 | mawk | next you do systemctl reload-or-restart systemd-udevd.service |
| 23:18.40 | mawk | to acknowledge the change |
| 23:19.18 | Kryczek | ii systemd 241-3 i386 system and service manager |
| 23:19.25 | mawk | yeah it's installed |
| 23:19.30 | Kryczek | ii udev 241-3 i386 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon |
| 23:19.35 | Kryczek | does it mean I have the wrong udev? |
| 23:19.54 | mawk | no you've got even a newer system that me |
| 23:20.00 | mawk | I'm at systemd 238 |
| 23:20.02 | Kryczek | hehe thanks :) |
| 23:20.09 | mawk | (linear version numbers are dumb, you have no stable version ever that way) |
| 23:20.49 | Kryczek | be careful that pattern matching was added to ifupdown fairly recently, check if you have a PATTERN MATCHING INTERFACES section in `man interfaces` for example if you want to make sure |
| 23:20.57 | mawk | yeah I checked |
| 23:21.09 | mawk | I'm on debian testing, just haven't upgraded since a long time |
| 23:21.18 | mawk | because I'm lazy |
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| 23:26.11 | mawk | do you have any result ? |
| 23:26.23 | mawk | should be in journalctl -u systemd-udevd |
| 23:26.38 | mawk | just open this in a tab: journalctl -u systemd-udevd --follow |
| 23:26.41 | mawk | then plug your adapter |
| 23:26.56 | Kryczek | not yet, slow computer heh :) |
| 23:27.05 | mawk | yeah |
| 23:27.17 | mawk | we have a saying in french, shoemakers have the worst shoes |
| 23:27.33 | mawk | I'm a software engineer with a lame computer |
| 23:27.38 | Kryczek | so true |
| 23:27.40 | Kryczek | same |
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| 23:28.45 | Kryczek | ok, I'm in |
| 23:29.28 | Kryczek | many many lines saying "Maximum number (10) of children reached" |
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| 23:31.18 | Kryczek | at least one interesting part: "ifupdown-hotplug (err)" about ifquery saying unknown interface enp0s9 |
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| 23:31.32 | Kryczek | (which is an existing interface name) |
| 23:31.58 | mawk | hmm |
| 23:32.31 | mawk | hook ifupdown-hotplug with your logging |
| 23:32.33 | mawk | it's in /lib/udev/ifupdown-hotplug |
| 23:32.49 | mawk | it's what is run by udev |
| 23:32.57 | mawk | the rule is located in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-ifupdown.rules it's very simple |
| 23:33.46 | Kryczek | hehe great minds think alike, that's what I alt-tab'ed to come back here :) |
| 23:33.55 | mawk | lol |
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| 23:33.59 | Kryczek | the ifquery error happens for all 3 of the existing interfaces |
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| 23:36.32 | mawk | ok so after the hotplug event the helper script will verify that the interface is allowed for hotplug |
| 23:36.34 | mawk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:36.45 | mawk | then it will invoke ifup, but through systemd: exec systemctl --no-block start $(systemd-escape --template ifup@.service $TARGET_IFACE) |
| 23:37.03 | mawk | you said ifquery is failing |
| 23:37.08 | mawk | so that's the culprit now |
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| 23:44.00 | Kryczek | mawk: maybe it is expected behavior of ifquery without the --allow=hotplug flag? |
| 23:44.26 | mawk | but it has allow hotplug |
| 23:44.36 | Kryczek | ph |
| 23:44.37 | mawk | /sbin/ifquery --allow hotplug -l "$INTERFACE" |
| 23:44.39 | Kryczek | oh* |
| 23:44.42 | Kryczek | good point |
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| 23:49.50 | Kryczek | ah I made a mistake in my logger, sorry |
| 23:49.57 | Kryczek | have to try again... |
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| 23:52.27 | mawk | the thing of interest is $INTERFACE |
| 23:52.32 | mawk | then run manually ifquery |
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| 23:55.15 | *** join/#debian Sinewpy (~end@unaffiliated/sinewpy) |
| 23:56.22 | *** join/#debian ztychr (~ztychr@unaffiliated/ztychr) |
| 23:57.33 | Kryczek | hmmm... now the boot process is stuck on "Raise network interfaces", maybe I did something wrong |
| 23:57.48 | *** join/#debian chaus (~chaus@2001:8a0:6380:6e01:84be:fe01:a8a4:6e97) |
| 23:58.10 | Kryczek | ah it completed, I have good logs now, let's see... |
