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| 02:12.19 | agris | Has anyone used the PacketFilter kernel module on Debian? |
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| 02:53.46 | Bateau | about to crash, it's 6am here, but for when I come back: I just spent close to two hours trying to debug a debian stable -> testing dist-upgrade that broke graphical output (I had only 800x600 initially, hence trying to move to testing) with my Vega64 card. Does anyone have experience with either making vega64 work in a clean testing install, or have any idea why lightdm would just complete fail and xorg would insist it can't find any |
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| 03:21.32 | annadane_ | Bateau, you might take such questions to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 06:38.24 | M6HZ | Hello. I would like to understand why the package Chromium is said to be the version "73.0.3683.75-1~deb9u1" by `apt-cache policy`, when Chromium reports itself as being the version "Version 71.0.3578.80 (Developer Build) built on Debian 9.6, running on Debian 9.7 (64-bit)" through "About Chromium". |
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| 06:42.23 | tdn | Does Debian 9 support LVM caching for LUKS encrypted devices? |
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| 06:47.15 | M6HZ | The link: "http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-chromium/pkg-chromium.git" provided on the page: "https://packages.debian.org/source/stretch/chromium" is apparently dead. |
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| 10:45.13 | DonAlex | WTF? Anyone else getting this hash sum mismatch? Has Debian repor been compromised ? https://paste.debian.net/1080980/ |
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| 10:51.51 | EdePopede | DonAlex: only this mirror? |
| 10:52.03 | DonAlex | Seems so.. |
| 10:52.33 | EdePopede | can you download the file manually? if it differs from otther mirrors, well... |
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| 10:53.58 | DonAlex | The contents filke ? |
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| 10:56.50 | EdePopede | the one which gives the wrong value |
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| 10:57.18 | EdePopede | yay, on .de they use the default apache settings, filesizes in kB :/ |
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| 11:01.14 | EdePopede | DonAlex: 54mb vs 45mb, this looks like a .deb you tried to get? |
| 11:01.32 | DonAlex | This was an apt update. . |
| 11:01.49 | DonAlex | Didn't try and download anything. |
| 11:02.42 | EdePopede | oh wait, 450mb. bloodylongnumbers. size of a CD. |
| 11:04.23 | EdePopede | 95.8MB here for apt-get update |
| 11:04.56 | DonAlex | hmmm |
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| 11:06.32 | EdePopede | does it mention the filename somewhere? |
| 11:06.52 | EdePopede | at least it mentions something about a received file |
| 11:07.26 | DonAlex | EdePopede: Me? It is just trying to download the contents.gz I assume |
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| 11:08.44 | EdePopede | doesn't fit the filesize. the biggest file in my cache is ~50M |
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| 11:10.18 | EdePopede | Contents for stable are all above 70M, also doesn't fit the expected size |
| 11:10.32 | DonAlex | ls -lah Contents-amd64 434M Apr 27 10:07 Contents-amd64 |
| 11:11.06 | DonAlex | Extracted 30M gzipped. |
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| 11:11.26 | DonAlex | So has the repo been compromised ? |
| 11:11.50 | EdePopede | oh, unpacked |
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| 11:13.58 | EdePopede | so, 440 out of 53. the compression ratio for text files is amazing. but then it looks like it would compare the compressed to the uncompressed size |
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| 11:15.13 | DonAlex | Well the point being how it is it getting the sum ? sha256 or md5 ? |
| 11:15.23 | DonAlex | and compressed or uncompressed ? |
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| 11:16.15 | EdePopede | DonAlex: or you didn't download the whole file |
| 11:16.33 | EdePopede | but then an uncompress error should have occured. |
| 11:16.34 | DonAlex | I download the contents.gz via the web browswer. |
| 11:16.41 | EdePopede | uncompressed i get here the expected size |
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| 11:18.29 | DonAlex | So what is it mismatching then ? |
| 11:19.07 | EdePopede | i get the expected values here (size, sha, md5) |
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| 11:21.18 | DonAlex | Hmmmm |
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| 11:21.52 | EdePopede | what. http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian9.9/main/Contents-amd64.gz is 31373549 bytes, the webpage shows 90286 (in what units do they measure it?) |
| 11:22.32 | EdePopede | or is .uk. also only a regional round robin? *sigh* |
| 11:23.45 | DonAlex | just uk I think |
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| 11:24.25 | EdePopede | i think the browser the may use another server than cli tools like dpkg, curl, .... |
| 11:24.43 | EdePopede | got 2 browesr now on ftp.hands.com |
| 11:24.51 | DonAlex | I can wget it too like that. |
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| 11:25.31 | EdePopede | but with debian.hands.com. being the only entry for .uk. hmm |
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| 11:28.45 | EdePopede | ah, i've been in contrib before. thus the 90k :/ |
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| 11:30.08 | EdePopede | DonAlex: the file gets unpacked, in your case it is far too short. Cpt. Obvious just poked me. |
| 11:30.16 | DonAlex | hmmm |
| 11:30.19 | EdePopede | what's your diskspace saying? |
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| 11:31.05 | DonAlex | in what sense ? |
| 11:31.05 | EdePopede | and i mean whereever it may unpack the .gz. /tmp /var, whatever |
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| 11:32.02 | EdePopede | it reads the correct expected (uncompressed) size and everything else. but then the uncompressed file is way too small. |
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| 11:33.17 | DonAlex | Hmm so what is in the repo then? A corrupted zip or a truncated one? |
| 11:33.19 | EdePopede | i'd say it stopped unpacking for some reason, the obvious one being a full partition (but then that's a root task, so this would really mean full) |
| 11:33.46 | EdePopede | here it worked, and i think you also downloaded the complate compressed file |
| 11:33.52 | EdePopede | * complete |
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| 11:34.05 | EdePopede | something must have gone wrong during unpacking |
| 11:34.44 | EdePopede | if you download and unpack it manually you also should get the 450MB file with correct checksums |
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| 11:37.36 | DonAlex | I get 434Mb ? |
| 11:38.52 | EdePopede | 454716312 |
| 11:39.50 | EdePopede | nothing in the logs about unpacking errors? |
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| 11:45.08 | DonAlex | nope. |
| 11:45.19 | DonAlex | just that error when I try and apt update |
| 11:46.06 | grobi | EdePopede: no mobil tethering without highspeed means: 6.264 B/s and still 1 h 47 min 27 s to go. started yesterday eve around 10 'o clock :). amazing that they don't throw me out :) |
| 11:47.31 | EdePopede | uh, that reminds me of the test downlad i did when i got isdn: netscape, took me 20 minutes :> |
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| 11:49.30 | thepotter | hi! trying to setup auditd to log all execve calls, but some cron job make it too noisy |
| 11:49.35 | thepotter | this is my rule: '-a exit,always -F arch=b64 -F euid=0 -S execve -k rootcmd' |
| 11:49.44 | thepotter | and ping makes it noisy |
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| 11:50.09 | thepotter | could someone point me to the right direction about how to build a rule that excludes ping? |
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| 11:51.50 | grobi | EdePopede: also i'm amazed how fast programs like alpine and links2 run on that "speed" . i don't miss anything except fanncy stuff,pics and movies.. lol |
| 11:52.00 | DonAlex | I am telling you this does not look good at all? |
| 11:52.07 | DonAlex | https://paste.debian.net/1080984/ |
| 11:52.42 | DonAlex | It is main and non-free |
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| 11:56.30 | EdePopede | what does ` df /var/lib/apt/lists/` say? got enough space? |
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| 11:58.22 | DonAlex | /dev/mapper/vg-root 27737028 24160428 2144640 92% / |
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| 11:58.34 | DonAlex | about 2.5 gb |
| 11:59.47 | EdePopede | should be enough ;) |
| 11:59.53 | EdePopede | manual download works as it seems |
| 12:00.12 | DonAlex | so why is apt update complaining ? |
| 12:00.21 | DonAlex | is it the ftp part ? |
| 12:00.49 | DonAlex | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.01 | DonAlex | should I switch to www ? |
| 12:01.24 | EdePopede | unpacking i'd say. it grabs the 50 something MB and doesn't unpack completely. the .gz must be complete or it would complain i think |
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| 12:02.09 | DonAlex | Yes.. it is ocmplaining about a MD5SUM mismatch |
| 12:02.10 | EdePopede | would most times be another host, which in this case doesn't even exist, so maybe not |
| 12:02.18 | DonAlex | and SHA256 |
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| 12:02.33 | EdePopede | they can't match, the file is about 1/9 of the size it should be |
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| 12:04.16 | EdePopede | but then the server sends a Content-Length, so the compressed size should fit. |
| 12:04.27 | DonAlex | hmm |
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| 12:05.37 | EdePopede | Get:44 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Contents (deb) [31.3 MB] |
| 12:05.37 | EdePopede | Fetched 2,434 B in 4s (574 B/s) |
| 12:06.08 | EdePopede | it doesn't check the download size when it's done? hmm |
| 12:06.43 | EdePopede | > Content-Length: 31373549 |
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| 12:10.05 | DonAlex | Can someone else add that repo line to their install and see if it shows the same error ? |
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| 12:15.37 | EdePopede | truncating the file to the size your system gets even gives me another md5 than you |
| 12:16.52 | EdePopede | grobi: useless symbolic images, tons of scripts, ads..... |
| 12:18.15 | EdePopede | first ads and now all those bloated frameworks are the worst of the web. fills your connection and brings your cpu to its limits. |
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| 12:18.34 | EdePopede | not to talk about security implications with web servers |
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| 12:19.40 | EdePopede | grobi > https://hackerone.com/reports/512076 |
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| 12:24.00 | jdyer | I have multiple Debian VMs and servers. What's the best way, short of SSH and random bash scripts, to centrally see their status and manage them? |
| 12:25.21 | nkuttler | jdyer: define best |
| 12:26.27 | booyah | jdyer: hire lots of interns and have them email reports |
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| 12:26.35 | booyah | outside of the box |
| 12:26.47 | jdyer | nkuttler: Now that's a very good question, actually. Relatively simple setup would be ideal, as would decent visualizations. I'm looking at Multiple Machines on Cockpit. I'm looking for opinion on this, or alternatives. |
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| 12:30.45 | nkuttler | jdyer: sounds like you want different tools. logging, log aggregation and visualization, command execution, .. |
| 12:31.20 | nkuttler | fwiw, if you're looking for a web tool to manage servers, just don't.. |
| 12:32.08 | jdyer | I've done some centralization already; I have a single rsyslog instance the others report back to, and I've got shell scripts that pull certain info and pipe it through logging |
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| 12:32.53 | jdyer | I'm a fair hand at parsing logs, so this works, but a visualization of all of that would be really nice. |
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| 12:33.53 | EdePopede | conqy or similar? |
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| 12:34.09 | nkuttler | i really like the elk stack to visualize logs. grafana is also nice. but then you'll want log parsing as well |
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| 12:35.09 | nkuttler | jdyer: how many servers are we talking about, and will this number change in the future? |
| 12:35.13 | jdyer | I've tried three times to get an Elk Stack VM running, and I botch it every single time. LOL, not sure what I'm missing. I have a buddy at my local university who implemented it for his campus; sounds like i need to buy him a beer and get him to help me. |
| 12:35.25 | jdyer | I've got just shy of 20 running right now |
| 12:35.42 | jdyer | And yes, it can change as I spin new ones up, retire old ones |
| 12:35.46 | nkuttler | jdyer: if you have ever used docker, there is a docker-compose setup with the entire stack. helped me to get started |
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| 12:36.36 | jdyer | nkuttler: You mentioned Docker, and I have a fair idea of what that is; it's basically chroot jails with some extra tools, yes? |
| 12:37.19 | nkuttler | jdyer: it's process isolation/namespacing |
| 12:38.06 | nkuttler | each process gets its own root, so.. i guess. never done much with jails |
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| 12:42.45 | jdyer | OK, I'm digging Cockpit, FYI. |
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| 12:43.10 | jdyer | I wrote a loop to install it on all the machines, and setup was drop dead simple. |
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| 13:00.14 | DonAlex | EdePopede: Haha.. ok just tried it again .. now that error has gone and I am getting another https://paste.debian.net/1081031/ |
| 13:00.28 | DonAlex | Something is going on over there at the repos |
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| 13:05.43 | a__pi | is there some tool to recompile all dependences from ones package? |
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| 13:10.07 | EdePopede | DonAlex: can you retrieve this file with curl or so? if this also works i'd say it is something with your apt system doing weird things |
| 13:10.38 | EdePopede | DonAlex: you also could try using another domain, like de instead of uk. files should be the same |
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| 13:12.01 | EdePopede | DonAlex: if you change them back later the downloaded files should be fine and don't get touched in the cache |
| 13:12.23 | DonAlex | Hah.. it is pulling html 404. https://paste.debian.net/1081032/ |
| 13:13.27 | DonAlex | Something is happening over there at that repo.. |
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| 13:13.38 | EdePopede | uh, must be brexit |
| 13:13.44 | DonAlex | Haha |
| 13:14.06 | EdePopede | what gave you the 4o4? |
| 13:14.23 | DonAlex | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.32 | EdePopede | same here |
| 13:14.46 | EdePopede | ah, it is .bz2 |
| 13:14.49 | DonAlex | Yeah.. something is being updated I guess.. |
| 13:15.30 | EdePopede | timestamps are from 2017. unless the thing pointing to it undergoes some changes |
| 13:16.13 | DonAlex | Hmmm |
| 13:16.24 | DonAlex | I thought mirrors were auto syncd ? |
| 13:17.10 | EdePopede | still needs some seconds. no idea what happens while trying to update while they're doing it |
| 13:17.55 | DonAlex | Well it is 14:17 over here.. so not really an overnight sync ? |
| 13:18.19 | EdePopede | DonAlex: you could simply replace uk with us in the url bar, they have at least the same settings for their httpd it seems |
| 13:19.07 | DonAlex | Yeah.. but still like to know what is going on. I mean first time I have come across this in about 25 years of Debian |
| 13:19.34 | EdePopede | seems they sync it during their late night ours. or early morning, depending of one's job ;) |
| 13:19.59 | EdePopede | it never stops being surprising |
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| 13:20.14 | DonAlex | Fairy nuff.. I am in no rush to update today I was just running it out of bordem |
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| 13:21.25 | EdePopede | maybe you could use some network sniffer, or a http proxy. wwwoffle used to be a nice thing, but it's dead now. and the other proxy they all are talking about didn't really cache things. |
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| 13:22.37 | EdePopede | i only run it when i think of it. had lots of reboots before stretch and did this before login. but now i tend to forget it |
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| 13:24.38 | laptop | hi |
| 13:24.42 | laptop | anyone use selinux |
| 13:24.52 | laptop | I tried enabling it but for some reason |
| 13:24.54 | laptop | not enabling |
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| 13:33.00 | whislock | Anything more specific? |
| 13:33.11 | laptop | well when |
| 13:33.16 | laptop | I type selinux status |
| 13:33.26 | laptop | it says disabled |
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| 13:33.34 | laptop | I cannot seem to enable it |
| 13:33.39 | whislock | How are you trying to enable it? |
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| 13:34.30 | laptop | edit /etc/selinux/config |
| 13:34.46 | laptop | getenforce says disabled |
| 13:35.33 | whislock | Have you followed https://wiki.debian.org/SELinux/Setup? |
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| 13:35.41 | laptop | yes |
| 13:35.45 | laptop | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="apparmor=0" |
| 13:35.45 | laptop | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="security=selinux" |
| 13:35.47 | laptop | in grub |
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| 13:37.28 | laptop | The directories /sys/fs/selinux and /selinux are missing. |
| 13:39.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
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| 13:42.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | so i have a condrum, i have a service that does not allow me to set seperation of roles in userids, so i am trying to find a way to protect this username and password that has access to all the things from being in a backup script.. |
| 13:42.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | it would be find ifi it only could backup files and do nothing else |
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| 13:48.08 | andi89gi | how do you guys think of using Debian Sid? |
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| 13:49.47 | ksk | Eryn_1983_FL: what is a condrum? |
| 13:50.45 | ksk | Eryn_1983_FL: use unix (group) permissions with a second user who can only read the stuff? |
| 13:51.49 | ksk | also, service running as root, sounds like a NONO to me. |
| 13:52.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | mmm |
| 13:52.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok you are not understanding |
| 13:52.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | its not running as root, |
| 13:53.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | i cant make user who only do backups, |
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| 13:53.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | its got to be in one group for admins, |
| 13:53.29 | ksk | which basicly is root. |
| 13:53.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | but its not |
| 13:53.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | its not root i have to login into the service, |
| 13:54.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | so like with this one |
| 13:54.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | tsm authentication list -u tableau.admin |
| 13:54.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | tableau.admin can do all the things, |
| 13:54.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | i cant make a tableau.backup that only does backups. |
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| 13:55.38 | ksk | Is what you are asking "How do I backup my postgresql database?"? |
| 13:56.00 | ksk | you make it really hard to decipher what you are doing imho :P |
| 13:56.12 | ksk | !problem |
| 13:56.12 | dpkg | from memory, problem is something that can be solved, fixed or worked around if properly described. A good thorough description of the problem, with detailed steps of how to reproduce the problem, the produced output, and the expected output, is the best start to discuss a problem. |
| 13:56.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | sorry |
| 13:56.47 | ksk | also, if you have a database, name it, and dont say "I have a service". |
| 13:56.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | the service is tableau, |
| 13:57.02 | rant | ksk: https://cidutest.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/102206getfuzzy.jpg |
| 13:57.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | its does have a postgres db |
| 13:57.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | but i am not running sql queries on it, i am running the back through the tsm tool |
| 13:57.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | and i have to put in a password for that to work.. |
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| 13:58.27 | ksk | a stock traded company. dont you have support there, and can ask "how do I backup your nice software"? |
| 13:59.00 | ksk | Eryn_1983_FL: that sounds horrible. expect is the thingy to do that, but, very very dirty. |
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| 13:59.26 | ksk | !tell Eryn_1983_FL about expect |
| 13:59.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | i been reading the docs and forums |
| 13:59.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 14:00.07 | ksk | Eryn_1983_FL: talking about that one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect - but as I said, one should like really never, ever use it. |
| 14:00.40 | ksk | because if you make it "type in the password automagicly" you can kind of get rid of the password (for that user, anyways) alltogether. |
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| 14:00.55 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok im still digging |
| 14:01.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | i want to take this software and throw it in a fire.. |
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| 14:02.06 | ksk | its internation workers day btw, hope you get extra $$$ ;) |
| 14:02.44 | rant | heh |
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| 14:02.55 | rant | ksk: you must be European |
| 14:03.12 | ksk | thats true. no such thing in the US? :( |
| 14:03.26 | rant | ksk: we have a "labor day" its in September |
| 14:03.32 | ksk | (as in "us somehow related to the EU culture") |
| 14:03.38 | ksk | I see. |
| 14:03.55 | rant | but for the most part all that govt mandated sick time, holiday, etc.. stuff.. we get none of.. we get no respect here |
| 14:04.20 | ksk | "Holidays are off the queen, get rid of them!" |
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| 14:06.21 | rant | our labor laws are very lax compared to europe.. US federal minimum wage is still US$7.25/hr we get 1.5x for over 40hrs, and are required to have a break if we work over 6hrs.. thats pretty much all we're gaurenteed :P |
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| 14:07.52 | jhutchins_wk | rant: Most of us IT workers are exempt from overtime. |
| 14:08.17 | rant | well saleried employees of any kind are |
| 14:08.26 | jhutchins_wk | Even google is avoiding the topic today. |
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| 14:09.00 | ksk | btw, is there something like Microsoft Windows its signing of binaries, and not-executing them if the signatures mis-match for linux somehow? |
| 14:09.16 | rant | but it made me laugh when ksk implied some kinda benefit.. knew they had to be European where its a norm to have healtcare, education, labor rights, etc.. we have none of that.. |
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| 14:09.40 | ksk | I know of nothing that would do that, and was wondering.. |
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| 14:09.46 | ksk | sorry rant ;) |
| 14:09.54 | jhutchins_wk | ksk: What context? "Secure boot"? |
| 14:11.03 | humpled | it wasn't a norm to have those things in Europe either before the labour movement |
| 14:11.05 | ksk | nah. just "computer start programme" context. |
| 14:11.57 | ksk | example in windows; I had a faulty ram, I did not know of. Signature of taskmgr.exe changed, windows notified me about that when I wanted it to start, because the signature was invalid. |
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| 14:12.18 | ksk | I know this is totally windows stuff, just wondering if there was any kind of layer like this for linxu available. |
| 14:12.55 | ksk | also of course does not help you, if someone tinkered with the parts of the OS that do the validaten.. |
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| 14:17.10 | jhutchins_wk | Yeah, there are various things like selinux, apparmour, etc. |
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| 14:17.54 | jhutchins_wk | ksk: It's a completely different approach than the "we know what's best for you" Microsoft philosophy, but it works for some people. |
| 14:18.10 | jhutchins_wk | ksk: Tripwire will alert you to changes in critical files. |
| 14:18.37 | ksk | mhhm yeah okay. so the answer is rather "no, but we have 1337 other security related frameworks" |
| 14:18.40 | ksk | thanks! |
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| 14:40.19 | at0m | ksk: maybe look into rkhunter, too |
| 14:40.52 | at0m | and fam, file alteration monitor |
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| 14:41.08 | ksk | thanks at0m ;) I kind of know all of these, yet they are totally different on a technical level. |
| 14:41.13 | at0m | many different tools with all different approach |
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| 14:41.15 | at0m | right |
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| 14:44.27 | neilthereildeil | hey guys, i just installed xen from the debian repos |
| 14:44.38 | neilthereildeil | its Xen 4.8, but it hangs when loading the initrd during boot. how can i fix this? |
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| 14:45.06 | ksk | neilthereildeil: remove quiet from bootline, and try again, then take a look where it hangs |
| 14:45.29 | neilthereildeil | ksk: ok |
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| 14:46.47 | jhutchins_wk | Remember, you will see the message from the step _before_ the one that fails. |
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| 14:47.02 | jhutchins_wk | neilthereildeil: Did we not point you to the xen resources yesterday? |
| 14:48.40 | neilthereildeil | jhutchins_wk: did you? sry i dont think i saw that message... |
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| 14:48.52 | jhutchins_wk | I know somebody asked about it... |
| 14:48.52 | neilthereildeil | so i removed quiet from the boot line in grub |
| 14:48.58 | jhutchins_wk | !xen |
| 14:48.58 | dpkg | Xen is an open source virtual machine monitor / hypervisor, allowing several guest operating systems to execute concurrently on the same system. Provides paravirtualization (requiring guest OSs to be modified/ported) and hardware-assisted virtualization (for running guests unmodified). For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 14:49.00 | neilthereildeil | and it still hangs with no additional output |
| 14:49.29 | jhutchins_wk | neilthereildeil: At least it's consistent. What step does it hang at? |
| 14:49.31 | neilthereildeil | i only see the print messages that are printed from the grub boot option |
| 14:50.11 | neilthereildeil | "Loading initial ramdisk..." is the last thing thats printed, and its printed from that grub entry |
| 14:50.33 | neilthereildeil | so that means it didnt even get a change to execute the first print statement in the initrd |
| 14:50.41 | jhutchins_wk | neilthereildeil: Perhaps rebuild the ramdisk? |
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| 14:51.56 | neilthereildeil | jhutchins_wk: just "update-initramfs"? |
| 14:52.41 | jhutchins_wk | neilthereildeil: I loose track, I don't often have to do it manually. There was a "dracut" utility for a while that seemed to do the job a little faster. |
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| 15:24.13 | neilthereildeil | jhutchins_wk: also, could the fact that i am booting with EFI rather than BIOS have anything to do with my hang? |
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| 15:33.12 | victorqueiroz | Does bluetooth speaker pairing works on GNOME of Debian Stable? |
| 15:33.44 | nix64bit | I am really struggling to get Bluetooth 4 to connect to sony speaker |
| 15:34.18 | victorqueiroz | In pulseaudio default.pa file I have: ".ifexists module-bluetooth-discover.so \n load-module module-bluetooth-discover \n .endif " but I don't know what does (.ifexists) it mean |
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| 15:35.45 | nix64bit | A2DP doesnt show in the configuration options |
| 15:35.49 | bzed | victorqueiroz: yes, works fine with that gnome tool (I don't haveit, but I've seen friend susing it all the time) |
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| 15:42.54 | nix64bit | I used this guide https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
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| 15:44.45 | nix64bit | I see the devices but cannot pair |
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| 15:50.44 | jhutchins_wk | neilthereildeil: I don't think it's a BIOS/EFI issue, you appear to be hanging after that level of boot has handed off to grub and the kernel. |
| 15:52.17 | jhutchins_wk | neilthereildeil: From your scenario (install xen, fail to boot), I imagine you have some sort of problem with the low-level drivers specific to xen. You could purge it to prove that xen is causing the problem, but how you get xen working I don't know. I would definitely suggest you check the wiki for possible known issues. |
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| 16:04.39 | grobi | EdePopede: thanks for that link, but i don't run java-script with links2 .. |
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| 16:08.35 | neilthereildeil | jhutchins_wk: hmm it seems when i boot the stock debian kernel directly without xen, it autoloads kvm modules |
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| 16:13.34 | qdb | hello . in debian 9 server, without desktop, i have put one ip in etc/network/interfaces , for eth0, but other ip is set automatically on startup, it is visible in ifconfig output. |
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| 16:14.29 | friendofafriend | qdb: Post your /etc/network/interfaces file to paste.debian.net . |
| 16:14.43 | victorqueiroz | after adding "load-module module-switch-on-connect" to ~/.config/pulse/default.pa, as instructed, I can see no sound devices anymore (literally no devices) |
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| 16:16.55 | qdb | friendofafriend: http://paste.debian.net/1081059/ |
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| 16:20.27 | friendofafriend | qdb: Uncomment 'auto eth0'. |
| 16:20.32 | qdb | friendofafriend: i am not sure there are no desktop packages, i remember i tried to install desktop once but could not, |
| 16:20.38 | qdb | friendofafriend: ok |
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| 16:22.05 | qdb | friendofafriend: if i do so, then systemctl restart networking outputs error messages |
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| 16:23.44 | friendofafriend | qdb: Put the messages on paste.debian.net |
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| 16:27.21 | qdb | friendofafriend: i cannot copy text from terminal |
| 16:27.31 | victorqueiroz | Yeah, debian doesn't work with my bluetooth device out-of-the-box. DANG!!!!!! |
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| 16:27.49 | qdb | friendofafriend: i tried the commend with > /tmp.txt but it writes 0 bytes there |
| 16:28.08 | victorqueiroz | It only appears on sound devices when I disconnect and connect again after killing pulseaudio. It's a mess |
| 16:28.40 | qdb | i am going to look syslog etc |
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| 16:30.05 | victorqueiroz | And when I finally select it as my default output device, it shows very strange sounds. And obviously when I try to change it to A2DP, it gives me: "Failed to change profile to a2dp_sink" |
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| 16:30.15 | victorqueiroz | This is embarrassing, really |
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| 16:34.12 | neilthereildeil | is there a special xen-aware kernel package on debian? |
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| 16:37.28 | qdb | friendofafriend: i copied output with script command as said in https://superuser.com/questions/357248/how-to-copy-the-terminal-output |
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| 16:38.47 | qdb | friendofafriend: Job for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status networking.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details |
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| 16:43.35 | phazon | neilthereildeil: normal amd64 kernels work with xen; dom0 and U |
| 16:44.13 | neilthereildeil | phazon: anything special i need to do with initrd? |
| 16:44.52 | neilthereildeil | kernel 4.0.9 and Xen 4.8.5 as installed from apt-get doesnt boot |
| 16:45.00 | neilthereildeil | it hangs at initrd load |
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| 16:45.31 | friendofafriend | qdb: Maybe try this? https://paste.debian.net/1081064/ |
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| 16:46.18 | qdb | friendofafriend: systemctl status networking.service through "script" http://paste.debian.net/1081062/ , same through >tmp2.txt : http://paste.debian.net/1081063/ |
| 16:46.31 | phazon | neilthereildeil: not sure -- we only use kvm -- but you might check the wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 16:46.32 | magyar | hi, best way to install tor-browser in testing? |
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| 16:47.20 | qdb | friendofafriend: ok, adding /24 |
| 16:48.26 | qdb | friendofafriend: does not work, same output |
| 16:48.38 | tds | qdb: May 01 19:22:00 komp ifup[1422]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists <-- that sounds like it was trying to add a route or ip address that was already added, might be that it didn't take the interfaces down cleanly? |
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| 16:49.39 | tds | also, you probably only need one of auto and allow-hotplug |
| 16:51.46 | qdb | tds: they are already so... |
| 16:52.13 | tds | what are already? |
| 16:52.23 | qdb | tds: how can i fix it? there were some filesystem errors.. |
| 16:52.59 | tds | is this a box you have easy physical access to, or a remote machine? |
| 16:53.12 | qdb | tds: http://paste.debian.net/1081059/ - only one of auto and ... hotplug active |
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| 16:53.42 | tds | if you're only using one I'd use auto - allow-hotplug will be a bit more of a pain to test |
| 16:53.51 | tds | and your ethernet interface shouldn't be going anywhere anyway |
| 16:53.57 | qdb | tds: in vbox in local win10 |
| 16:54.51 | phazon | magyar: there's no "best" way; there is a python script (torbrowser-launcher) in backports and sid; upstream is here: https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher read BUILD.md; dont 'make install': https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 16:54.52 | qdb | tds: i understood now. |
| 16:54.57 | tds | oh right - if you can get a console on the vm from the host then, I think I'd ifdown --force it, ip l set eth0 down, ip a del 192.168.43.7/24 dev eth0, ip r to check if there are any more routes, delete those if so, then try restarting networking.service |
| 16:54.59 | qdb | only one of them |
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| 16:55.17 | tds | that should get you into a clean state at least |
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| 16:56.41 | qdb | tds i commented the hotplug line , and restart still fails |
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| 16:57.16 | tds | qdb: did you do as I suggested to manually take the interface down, clean it up and then bring it back up? |
| 16:57.39 | qdb | tds not yet |
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| 16:58.20 | phazon | magyar: i'd compile tor browser bundle from src and run in-place from src directory, but that's just me |
| 16:59.12 | qdb | tds: ifdown --force eth0 ? |
| 16:59.14 | magyar | phazon: thank you |
| 16:59.21 | tds | qdb: yes |
| 16:59.36 | tds | then you should be able to `ip a` and `ip r` to see what state you're left in, clean up as neccessary |
| 16:59.45 | tds | then you can restart networking.service, which will effectively run ifup eth0 for you |
| 16:59.50 | phazon | magyar: also try #tor on oftc.net |
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| 17:00.36 | magyar | phazon: so as per this post > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926042 the installer has been pulled form buster? |
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| 17:01.41 | qwannn | Debian is awesome! |
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| 17:02.39 | phazon | magyar: looks like you'll have to stay on top of hacking on the apparmor profiles yourself a bit... |
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| 17:05.23 | phazon | if you're gonna do that constantly for yourself, may as well volunteer to help maintain the pkg: https://mentors.debian.net/ && https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq |
| 17:08.41 | qdb | tds: ip a said : http://paste.debian.net/1081070/ . then ... restart networking output same? error message . but ip is set correctly now... in ifconfig output... also i remembered now that it must be already working because i connected to correct ip with ftp... |
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| 17:31.39 | qdb | tds: after reboot it does not work again, got old ip again |
| 17:32.18 | tds | qdb: can you paste the output of `ip a`, `ip r` and the contents of /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 17:32.27 | tds | sounds like you might have something else installed managing your network |
| 17:32.32 | qdb | tds: but, before reboot, i removed auto eth0 line, as i remember |
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| 17:32.58 | qdb | tds: there is networkmanager dir in etc |
| 17:33.18 | jhutchins_wk | !interfaces |
| 17:33.19 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 17:33.53 | greycat | that factoid is only part of the picture now |
| 17:33.53 | tds | qdb: and is there any config in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/? |
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| 17:34.45 | qdb | tds: there is no system-connections, only dispatcher d |
| 17:35.16 | tds | qdb: ok - I'd still be interested to see the outputs of the commands I mentioned |
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| 17:38.02 | qdb | tds: i uncommented auto eth0, there are 2 autos now, anotjer for lo. then i will run script and run the commands again. but i need to turn network om to get access to tmp.txt via ftp |
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| 17:39.33 | qdb | tds: ifconfig shows the 1.7 address, but ftp connects to 43.7 address and works. |
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| 17:39.55 | tds | stop using ifconfig, the whole of net-tools is old and deprecated |
| 17:39.58 | tds | use ip a instead |
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| 17:40.13 | qdb | tds: i thought that is not possible |
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| 17:40.32 | qdb | i mean i thought ifconfig shows correct ip |
| 17:41.03 | cev | join /debian-es |
| 17:41.14 | qdb | tds: ip a also shows 1.7 address |
| 17:41.41 | qdb | tds: no, it shows both of them |
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| 17:46.04 | qdb | tds: where from 1.7 and 43.7 addresses come here (ip a)? |
| 17:46.54 | qdb | where 1.7 and 43.7 addresses come here (ip a) from? |
| 17:47.34 | tds | if only one of those is in /etc/network/interfaces, sounds like some other service is starting and adding another address |
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| 17:49.19 | jmcnaught | you could try "journalctl | grep <MYSTERY IP ADDRESS>" |
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| 17:51.12 | qdb | tds: outputs of the commands: http://paste.debian.net/1081084/ |
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| 17:52.20 | tds | oh right, I meant <tds> qdb: can you paste the output of `ip a`, `ip r` and the contents of /etc/network/interfaces? - those commands aren't much use at that point |
| 17:52.32 | tds | anyway, at this point you just need to work out what's adding the extra ip |
| 17:53.11 | qdb | ip r gives empty output |
| 17:53.22 | qdb | no, |
| 17:53.29 | qdb | now it is not |
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| 17:53.47 | tds | it really doesn't matter much, just figure out what's adding the ip - what jmcnaught suggested would be a good starting point |
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| 17:55.22 | qdb | tds: http://paste.debian.net/1081087/ |
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| 17:57.42 | qdb | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/1081088/ |
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| 17:58.48 | qdb | i think extra ip does not bother me so much |
| 17:59.47 | qdb | can i trace or check where it comes from? |
| 18:00.42 | qdb | that is interesting, like educational purpose. not very important |
| 18:00.53 | qdb | i should google that first |
| 18:01.09 | tds | qdb: might be worth just looking at what processes are running on the box, what systemd services are enabled, etc |
| 18:01.12 | qdb | thank you |
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| 18:04.45 | qdb | tds: ps aux: http://paste.debian.net/1081092/ |
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| 18:05.53 | tds | i'd take a look at systemd-networkd's config then |
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| 18:08.44 | qdb | tds: systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled : http://paste.debian.net/1081095/ |
| 18:10.17 | tds | yes, so look at the networkd config |
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| 18:11.42 | qdb | tds: yes, it is there, thank you |
| 18:12.14 | qdb | in / etc systemd network / 10-... |
| 18:12.16 | tds | just to check - is this on plain debian, or some other distro? |
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| 18:12.32 | qdb | tds: plain debian |
| 18:13.04 | jmcnaught | systemd-networkd and systemd-resolved are not enabled by default on Debian |
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| 18:14.22 | zellfaze | So I am about to switch from a Nvidia GPU to an AMD GPU. |
| 18:14.32 | zellfaze | Should I uninstall the Nvidia drivers first? |
| 18:14.38 | zellfaze | Or just switch cards? |
| 18:14.47 | zellfaze | hasn't had to do this before in all of these years. |
| 18:15.12 | rant | zellfaze: it wouldn't hurt |
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| 18:16.07 | zellfaze | Next question. Is there a way to back up my current setup so I can roll back if this goes haywire? |
| 18:16.12 | rant | most stuff is auto detected though so as long as you have drivers that'll support the new card and dont have any specific configs for the nvidia its not strictly required |
| 18:16.49 | zellfaze | doesn't think he did anything particularly weird when setting up the Nvidia card before. |
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| 18:17.19 | rant | if there arent any modprobe or xorg conf files specifiying nvidia, it wont matter |
| 18:17.28 | zellfaze | Works for me then. |
| 18:17.31 | zellfaze | Thanks. |
| 18:17.46 | rant | drivers are typically detected and autoloaded in initrd and xorg by default has no config and auto detects when it starts |
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| 18:18.00 | zellfaze | goes to double check xorg config |
| 18:18.24 | rant | there shouldnt be one.. unless you or nvidia driver made one |
| 18:19.19 | zellfaze | I didn't see one, so yup. Should be good then. |
| 18:20.02 | zellfaze | We really have come a long way in the past ten years. |
| 18:20.21 | rant | yeah mostly for the better :P |
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| 18:23.51 | zellfaze | is off to try to change some hardware. I will report back in with either a success or more questions. |
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| 18:37.30 | kreyren | low_priority bug report: based on https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/572202500673765405/573211803262124052/unknown.png?width=1190&height=670 provided by end-user it seems that openrc on debian buster depends on package `initscripts` which should be resolved. |
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| 18:40.07 | rant | kreyren: ? |
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| 18:41.15 | kreyren | rant, seems that openrc in debian testing depends on initscripts package based on result since it's based on other user's results that i'm mentoring i decided to file it on irc only as low priority in case anyone wants to verify it |
| 18:41.24 | kreyren | ignore if not helpful |
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| 18:41.55 | rant | yeah, we don't file bugs here |
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| 19:03.55 | digdilem | kreyren, there's a debian package, reportbug, which does a lot of the boring stuff about submitting bugs for you |
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| 19:05.25 | bernyrd | helo |
| 19:05.30 | bernyrd | I try set up masquerade routing |
| 19:05.32 | bernyrd | with forward |
| 19:05.35 | bernyrd | but it does not work |
| 19:05.46 | bernyrd | I have enp1s0 as outside, still on a LAN, and enp2s0 as the "inside" |
| 19:06.11 | bernyrd | on the machine I can get to IPs on enp2s0 find, but forwarding isn't working from enp1s0's IP to enp2s0 network, where the machine is the gateway |
| 19:06.24 | bernyrd | https://debian-administration.org/article/23/Setting_up_a_simple_Debian_gateway |
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| 19:06.40 | bernyrd | Doing that, but routing/forward rules from https://serverfault.com/questions/532569/how-to-do-port-forwarding-redirecting-on-debian#532575 |
| 19:06.44 | bernyrd | Not sure how to shoot trouble |
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| 19:08.05 | rant | heh |
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| 19:14.16 | kreyren | rant, i know but it's not my system to verify the results, but based on provided info the issue is there.. i will investigate myself in like 6 days so i shared it here since it's easy to reproduce incase anyone wants to resolve it.. as i said ignore if not helpful |
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| 19:30.13 | bernyrd | anyone? the same steps work on an ubuntu box |
| 19:30.35 | bernyrd | as far as know exactly same |
| 19:30.51 | linuxmuch | most of the time Ubuntu, Debian and Mint are always the same |
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| 19:33.51 | bernyrd | well I do now some stuff is different |
| 19:33.52 | aerth | hi all, i removed systemd from a box and now X isnt working for non-root users (confirmed working with root). I check /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and it definitely says console users may use X. I try to reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel and then it wants me to switch sysv-init for systemd-sysv ... ... ... |
| 19:33.56 | bernyrd | but iptables is pretty basic |
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| 19:34.41 | greycat | sounds like you didn't switch to sysvinit correctly |
| 19:34.45 | greycat | !stretch sysvinit |
| 19:34.45 | dpkg | To replace systemd with sysvinit in stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and reboot. To switch from systemd to runit in buster or sid, "apt-get install runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init", and reboot again. |
| 19:35.19 | aerth | ah ! thanks greycat |
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| 19:37.55 | tds | bernyrd: what's the output of `iptables-save -c`? do you see things matching your rules? |
| 19:38.22 | bernyrd | tds: I do yes |
| 19:38.44 | bernyrd | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/euzDeOG1/ |
| 19:38.50 | bernyrd | I am not sure the masquerade line is right |
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| 19:38.57 | bernyrd | enp1s0 is the outside, enp2s0 is inside |
| 19:39.12 | bernyrd | I need 503 on outside to go to 10.3.0.2 on inside |
| 19:39.35 | tds | yeah, you really don't want a masquerade line like that, at the very least do it based on output interface so it's only for connections going out via the "wan" interface |
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| 19:40.29 | tds | also, that doesn't look like anything's ever matching rules in your forward chain |
| 19:41.07 | bernyrd | why is that? what is a corrected rule? |
| 19:41.38 | tds | for the masq rule, something like -A POSTROUTING -o enp1s0 -j MASQUERADE would be more sensible |
| 19:43.28 | bernyrd | ok, yeah that is close to my ubuntu box |
| 19:44.10 | bernyrd | on my other box's nat list I also have: |
| 19:44.17 | bernyrd | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wfAoC4F5/ |
| 19:44.30 | bernyrd | but those are I think added by openvpn? |
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| 19:44.38 | tds | please use iptables-save rather than iptables -L |
| 19:45.53 | victorqueiroz | It's ridiculous because my bluetooth headset works perfectly out-of-the-box with Ubuntu, but not with Debian. I just don't understand what's going on. |
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| 19:47.55 | bernyrd | [0:0] -A POSTROUTING -s 10.3.0.0/24 -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 19:47.55 | bernyrd | [0:0] -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.254.0/24 -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 19:47.55 | bernyrd | COMMIT |
| 19:48.07 | bernyrd | I will try to readd forwarding and now |
| 19:48.18 | bernyrd | but I think I tried the masquerade line fix you said |
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| 19:49.11 | zellfaze | Update: Whelp. Turns out my card doesn't actually fit in my case. This is what I get for not measuring. |
| 19:49.12 | tds | also, adding rules from scripts like that guide suggested can get rather messy - if you install the "iptables-persistent" package that can work nicely for saving your ruleset and restoring it on boot, then you can easily edit the ruleset on disk and apply changes as well |
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| 19:53.38 | bernyrd | yea I use the persistent thing |
| 19:53.47 | bernyrd | trying to construct rules basedo n that script |
| 19:53.53 | bernyrd | can't find resource I used for the ubuntu box |
| 19:55.29 | bazul | meh |
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| 20:04.53 | aerth | ok im in runit-init and apt install xserver-xorg-video-intel wants to remove it and replace with systemd-sysv |
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| 20:05.29 | greycat | why? |
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| 20:05.39 | aerth | beats me? |
| 20:06.08 | greycat | well, you're the sid/buster user playing with an experimental init system that very few people use, so... what did it *say*/ |
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| 20:06.50 | greycat | also what does "apt-get -f install" (no pkg names) say? is your setup simply half-broken? |
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| 20:08.28 | aerth | that was a good idea but -f didnt fix it, seems nothing is broken |
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| 20:09.34 | greycat | so what did it *say* when you tried to install that package? |
| 20:10.19 | aerth | pasting |
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| 20:12.59 | aerth | grecat: apt output https://0x0.st/zcJA.txt |
| 20:13.14 | aerth | i can types |
| 20:14.15 | aerth | there was once a day when sysv was not an experimental init system :) |
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| 20:14.43 | aedinius | i thought you were trying to do runit |
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| 20:15.24 | greycat | he came in asking about sysvinit and then saw the factoid which happened to ALSO mention runit and then he seems to have switched his attention to runit so now he has a broken mishmash of all three, maybe |
| 20:15.33 | aerth | i want x as non-root without systemd |
| 20:15.53 | bernyrd | tds: Can you check these rules also? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dkl7Q2LI/ |
| 20:15.56 | jmcnaught | doesn't X11 as non-root require logind? |
| 20:16.23 | bernyrd | aerth: if you want non-systemd you might look at Arch and Gentoo guides |
| 20:16.26 | greycat | if that's the case I'll happily stop trying to manually track dependency trees |
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| 20:16.32 | bernyrd | they use a different init system, but it is modeled after sysvinit |
| 20:16.48 | aedinius | arch uses ystemd? |
| 20:17.06 | bernyrd | tds: The intent is to forward port 503 to 10.3.0.2:503 but this does not seem to work |
| 20:17.12 | greycat | there is a lot of systemd info on the arch wiki, I know that much... |
| 20:17.23 | dax | arch does indeed use systemd |
| 20:17.33 | bernyrd | tds: I tried to see if I needed to accept port 503 with an INPUT rule, but that leads to "connection refuse" as if it is not forwarding it |
| 20:17.52 | bernyrd | tds: as that is main difference I see between ubu and debian box setup, the ubuntu box has default-allow I think |
| 20:18.05 | bernyrd | well arch may have gone to systemd only, I forogt |
| 20:18.18 | aedinius | yes, in like 2012 |
| 20:18.27 | aerth | so debian == systemd? |
| 20:18.52 | aedinius | pretty much all of the big distros are systemd now, iirc |
| 20:19.00 | greycat | Debian 8 and 9 (and upcoming 10) use systemd by default but also support sysvinit, kinda. |
| 20:19.06 | tds | bernyrd: could you paste the same ruleset but with -c for counters? also, that doesn't look like it would allow any replies from stuff on the lan interface |
| 20:19.21 | aerth | yes they ship with it but is it so intertwined that its dependent on systemd now? damn |
| 20:19.22 | CrystalMath | greycat: i'm using debian with openrc |
| 20:19.24 | CrystalMath | no problems |
| 20:19.28 | marczen | there is no escape |
| 20:19.34 | bernyrd | tds: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/w8vafArz/ |
| 20:19.40 | CrystalMath | marczen: i will never use systemd |
| 20:19.40 | aedinius | doesn't mind systemd |
| 20:19.56 | greycat | Debian 10 may or may not support runit as a third choice, but I haven't seen anything about it in a really long while. I've never seen any mention of openrc support. |
| 20:20.07 | marczen | CrystalMath, i am neigher using it heh |
| 20:20.12 | aedinius | i do really like runit though |
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| 20:20.19 | aedinius | runs void on most personal things now |
| 20:20.21 | tds | bernyrd: that still doesn't look like anything's matching your prerouting rules - if you tcpdump on enp1s0 do you actually see connections with dport 503? |
| 20:20.37 | CrystalMath | greycat: i'm using the official package |
| 20:21.05 | tds | bernyrd: I'd also double check the output of `net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding` |
| 20:21.09 | tds | oops, `sysctl net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding` |
| 20:21.10 | jmcnaught | aerth: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#x-no-longer-requires-root "It needs logind and libpam-systemd". You need those packages but can still use a different init system |
| 20:21.50 | greycat | jmcnaught: yes, I was wondering what aerth *ACTUALLY DID*, and suspecting they tried to remove everything with "system" and "d" in its name without any thought |
| 20:22.25 | greycat | then I wasted a bunch of time trying to track down what xserver-* depends on |
| 20:22.50 | aerth | no i simply installed sysv-init |
| 20:22.57 | bernyrd | tds: `tcpdump port 503` does show traffic but the connection never compeletes and the program times out |
| 20:23.18 | jmcnaught | ,i sysv-init |
| 20:23.19 | judd | No package named 'sysv-init' was found in stretch/amd64. |
| 20:23.26 | bernyrd | tds: net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding = 1 |
| 20:23.41 | tds | bernyrd: i'd do that again but tcpdump -i enp1s0 port 503, just to confirm you've got the right interface |
| 20:23.47 | aerth | ,i sysvinit-core |
| 20:23.48 | judd | Package sysvinit-core (admin, extra) in stretch/amd64: System-V-like init utilities. Version: 2.88dsf-59.9; Size: 131.5k; Installed: 225k; Homepage: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit |
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| 20:24.07 | bernyrd | tds: yeah same thing, see retries but no connect |
| 20:24.28 | greycat | aerth: then libpam-systemd should have been installed already, and yet your apt output shows it isn't |
| 20:25.00 | tds | bernyrd: what's the source ip on that? the output of `ip route get <that source ip>` might be worth checking to make sure rp_filter isn't dropping it |
| 20:25.46 | aerth | i guess i can get libpam-elogind instead of systemd, but im going to go with the two that jmcnaught mentioned and see how it goes |
| 20:26.05 | bernyrd | tds: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dKD22fOS/ |
| 20:26.27 | aerth | i see, logind is some sort of alias for libpam-systemd OR libpam-elogind |
| 20:26.27 | tds | bernyrd: oh right, what's the output of `ip a` in full? |
| 20:26.41 | tds | your rules probably need to match on -i br0 from the look of it |
| 20:27.00 | bernyrd | tds: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2jhL5UsW/ |
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| 20:27.44 | tds | bernyrd: yes, change your rules to match on -i br0 then |
| 20:28.00 | tds | (the ones that were -i enp1s0 before) |
| 20:28.21 | bernyrd | ah dang |
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| 20:31.02 | aerth | geez this runit is very slow at the login prompts and whenever dbus has something going on (at boot and processing triggers) |
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| 20:35.02 | bernyrd | tds: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qoEPBrCA/ |
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| 20:35.16 | bernyrd | was a mistake, but still confused... that does not behave as expected |
| 20:35.29 | tds | that looks better now - you still need a rule to allow the replies from the server |
| 20:35.37 | bernyrd | it looks like the forward rule is triggering though |
| 20:35.37 | bernyrd | oh |
| 20:35.58 | tds | -A FORWARD -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED would work fine for that |
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| 20:38.08 | bernyrd | I can not send hugs over internet tds |
| 20:38.12 | bernyrd | but thank |
| 20:38.44 | bernyrd | I thought initial INPUT rule with similar wouldh andle that |
| 20:39.47 | tds | no, input/output are only for traffic destined to or originating from the host itself, forward is for any routed traffic |
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| 20:51.54 | aerth | did not achieve x+nonroot+sysvinit, maybe another day. back on systemd reluctantly |
| 20:52.03 | aerth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:06.08 | magyar | will do, thanks phazon |
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| 22:04.08 | pagetelegram | Whats a tiny jpg/png viewer that I can execute from cli while X11? I use fbi in console only and now coming in a VM using debian with mwm (motif) want to quickly view images and quickly exit. |
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| 22:05.48 | humbot | xli, feh |
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| 22:06.16 | pagetelegram | thanks humbot! I will give feh a spin first that sounds familiar |
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| 22:07.01 | Sleaker | I've used eog quite a bit |
| 22:07.35 | humbot | eog is the gnome photo viewer app right? |
| 22:08.02 | pagetelegram | 200megs though .... looking for something I can quickly exit and little overhead. |
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| 22:08.34 | Sleaker | I dunno if it's a photo viewer it just shows itself up as an image viewer. |
| 22:08.41 | Sleaker | there's also 'eom' eye of mate now. |
| 22:09.05 | Sleaker | pagetelegram: which one was 200mbs? |
| 22:09.20 | Sleaker | and is that the program itself, or are you talking about prog + deps |
| 22:09.30 | pagetelegram | I had feh and and xli I had already installed and didn't know. I'm hesistant to install some "beast" of a viewer....yeah eog requires 200mb on my system in dependencies are installed |
| 22:10.05 | pagetelegram | *deps included. I'm running a very space restricted environment |
| 22:10.17 | Sleaker | yah for sure. |
| 22:10.45 | Sleaker | eog was always preinstalled on the systems I used ti on anyway |
| 22:11.46 | pagetelegram | Yeah I started from a net install and didn't install any extras....started with console only and built it from there. mwm is a very basic and ancient windowing DE. |
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| 22:20.40 | humbot | feh is fairly powerful, has a lot of nice capabilities, just can't do gifs, and it uses a fraction of the memory that ristretto (the default xfce picture viewer) is using on the same image |
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| 22:34.43 | qdb | hello. debian in vbox, with bridged network setting, has no access to internet from inside, though i can open webserver in it from host browser |
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| 22:37.42 | qdb | ip r says: default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 proto static |||| 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.7 ||newline|| 192.168.43.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.43.7 |
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| 22:38.44 | qdb | i think internet comes from 192 168 43 1 gateway |
| 22:41.57 | qdb | i put that gateway in etc network interfaces and in etc systemd network 10-static-eth0.network |
| 22:42.38 | qdb | but ip r shows other gateway |
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| 22:44.52 | SerajewelKS | qdb: it's probably using whatever gateway the DHCP server tells it to |
| 22:46.02 | forgotmynick | hello i have a vps that i use as a tunnel to connect to other servers. i connect to it via ssh and use it as a socks proxy. whenever i need to connect to other servers, i use ssh over that proxy. for some reason connections to those other servers stops working randomly and I can't type anything and after some time, the initial tunnel connection just aborts. i installed vpn software on the vps and i have no issues with |
| 22:46.02 | forgotmynick | connecting to other servers. i'd like to diagnose this issue but i don't know where to begin and it's hard to replicate. what should i look at to debug it? i have debian 8.6 |
| 22:46.39 | SerajewelKS | forgotmynick: after a period of inactivity, a NAT router between you and the server probably drops the connection from its NAT table |
| 22:46.46 | SerajewelKS | forgotmynick: turn on ssh heartbeats |
| 22:47.05 | qdb | SerajewelKS: is not dhcp server itself located on the gateway address? i thought it that way. |
| 22:47.22 | SerajewelKS | qdb: in most home networks, yes. there is no restriction that says that it must be. |
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| 22:47.57 | forgotmynick | SerajewelKS: sometimes it happens after only being connected for 5 seconds |
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| 22:48.45 | SerajewelKS | forgotmynick: odd. maybe run a packet capture on both ends, see if you can see anything suspicious when the connection breaks |
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| 22:49.56 | SerajewelKS | "can't type anything" definitely sounds like one end can't reach the other |
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| 22:54.01 | forgotmynick | i'll try that thank you |
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| 23:02.17 | kreyren | is there linux 5.0.x kernel on debian that i can install on buster? |
| 23:03.24 | Sleaker | ,v linux-headers-amd64 |
| 23:03.25 | judd | Package: linux-headers-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u4; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u7; stretch-backports: 4.19+104~bpo9+1; buster: 4.19+104; sid: 4.19+104 |
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| 23:03.50 | kreyren | welp |
| 23:03.58 | Sleaker | not even in sid |
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| 23:04.05 | kreyren | rip |
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| 23:04.34 | Sleaker | kreyren: I don't think debian will even choose to use 5.0 it's not a longterm. |
| 23:05.00 | kreyren | ye probably i just needed to grab the configuration from debian's kernel into mainstream |
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| 23:25.10 | cdchapm2_ | vim not installed by default anymore??? |
| 23:25.14 | somiaj | kreyren: or you could wait. Once buster is released (right now the focus is fixing all the rc bugs and relasing buster), newer kernels will be provided via buster-backports, similar to stretch. |
| 23:25.31 | somiaj | cdchapm2_: it is, but it is vim-tiny, wich only has a binary 'vi' not 'vim' |
| 23:25.47 | somiaj | i.e. the vi variant we use is vim, but vim-tiny is the most vi like (minimial) configuration and is the default |
| 23:25.55 | cdchapm2_ | oh that's great |
| 23:27.19 | cdchapm2_ | was worried |
| 23:28.38 | humbot | vim proper is much nicer and twice as big |
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| 23:38.42 | ayjay_t | does anyone know a guide for migrating from iptables to nft on stretch? |
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| 23:41.31 | Sleaker | ayjay_t: doesn't nftables have the same syntax for loading? |
| 23:41.50 | Sleaker | I thought it just allowed for more complex chaining is all |
| 23:42.38 | Sleaker | ayjay_t: https://wiki.nftables.org/wiki-nftables/index.php/Moving_from_iptables_to_nftables |
| 23:42.43 | ayjay_t | i'm actually a beginner with either, i'm trying to play with a wrapper on github |
| 23:42.54 | ayjay_t | i did see that, it included help with translating the rules |
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| 23:43.11 | ayjay_t | am i to understand the nftables is just a front-end improvement? i thought it was a kernel-layer improvement as well |
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| 23:44.57 | somiaj | it is both |
| 23:45.08 | somiaj | (at least from my understanding) |
| 23:45.27 | ayjay_t | hmm maybe modern kernsl support both out the box? |
| 23:45.47 | ayjay_t | and maybe both configuration systems will simutaneously effect packet decisions |
| 23:46.23 | somiaj | looks like they are both produced by the same people in netfilter, so maybe it is more akin to netfileter2.0 than a replacement, so more an improvement over limitiations in the older implmentation. |
| 23:47.12 | ayjay_t | yeah its a bit unintuitive, let me see what's going on in #networking |
| 23:47.49 | somiaj | hmm, well it does look like they use two different kernel modules, iptables vs nf_tables |
| 23:47.53 | Sleaker | correct. the iptables conversion page even says to not use both at the same time as it may result in unexpected network filtering |
| 23:48.19 | ayjay_t | oh yeah now i see both in lsmod |
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| 23:49.06 | somiaj | But yes, both are available on modern linux kernels, so both are supported, but you should only use one. And with the way depericiation happens, it might be many, many years before iptables is fully depericated in favor of nft |
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| 23:50.44 | ayjay_t | huh yeah, that's fine. its not a big deal to me so i went with the newer. but still, need to figure out how to disable iptables... nothing obvious in systemd... |
| 23:53.02 | jhutchins | There really ought to be an "implement my iptables configuration in netfilter" script that translates, turns iptables off and netfilter on. |
| 23:53.21 | ayjay_t | jhutchins: the first part is pretty much documented i think, but its the second part i'm looking for |
| 23:53.26 | ayjay_t | its a brand new spin too so i dont even think i need to convert |
| 23:53.44 | jhutchins | BTW, for those who tuned in recently, I believe this is the third implementation of traffic filtering. |
| 23:54.38 | jhutchins | ayjay_t: Documented is all very well, but it's so damned easy to write a simpl if/then script that will take a configuration file, understand it's intent, and write out equivalent commands for a new system. |
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| 23:56.11 | Sleaker | ayjay_t: just don't load you iptables configuration at boot? |
| 23:56.16 | Sleaker | iptables never had persisting by default. |
| 23:56.26 | Sleaker | not sure what the question is here... |
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| 23:56.47 | Sleaker | unless I'm missing something. |
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| 23:58.24 | ayjay_t | yeah no it's me thats missing something |
| 23:58.52 | ayjay_t | it does look like iptables nftables are kernel modules loaded at boot (not sure where tbh, not in /etc/modules-load.d) |
| 23:59.03 | ayjay_t | there are optional systemd services? not sure what they do... gonna have to inspect their service files |
| 23:59.24 | ayjay_t | and yeah configuration doesn't require an active process |
| 23:59.54 | Sleaker | right cause it loads the rules. but you still have to run commands to load the rules at boot. |
