IRC log for #debian on 20190512

00:00.13ghormoonhm, i guess i don't have dconf at all
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00:01.49ghormoonah, i do
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00:03.16rantI'd guess this key is read by mate-settings-daemon and what it does with that idk
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00:04.12ghormooni don't have org.mate though
00:04.28ghormoonthere's org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad but it does not have such option
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00:05.51rantseems like mate-settings-daemon is calling /usr/bin/syndaemon when I toggle that setting
00:06.41rantsyndaemon - a program that monitors keyboard activity and disables the touchpad when the keyboard is being used.
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00:07.01rant,find bin/syndaemon
00:07.06juddSearch for bin/syndaemon in stretch/amd64: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: usr/bin/syndaemon
00:07.35ghormooni don't have that package, but i'll try
00:07.53rantyou don't have the command syndaemon?
00:08.08humpledxmonad is its own monster
00:08.18rantyes but syndaemon is part of xorg
00:08.40ghormoonnot until now
00:08.42ghormoonNo synaptics properties on device 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'.
00:08.44rantand seems to be what does this.. unless its a hw default that must be overriden
00:08.52ghormoonseem it doesn't want to start :D
00:09.02rantmy thought was it was already running
00:09.13ghormooni guess the daemon is a replacement if the touchpad doesn't do it in it's own
00:09.33ghormoonso i guess my source is one level lower
00:10.01ghormoonI'll try xmonad channel if they have any ieas
00:10.54ranthttp://paste.debian.net/1083424/  is a snipped of strace attached to mate-settings-daemon while repeatedly toggling the setting
00:13.35ranthttps://termbin.com/xsof  info to aid in reading.. i.e. fd links and such
00:15.45ghormoondo you have the syndaemon process running all the time?
00:16.10rantI disable my touchpad always so.. :P
00:16.14rantI hate those things
00:16.18rantI use the trackpoint
00:16.25dvsyuck
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00:16.48ghormoonseems I'll have to stat using trackpoint xD
00:16.57ghormoonthat one does not disable
00:17.14rantghormoon: no but it drifts
00:17.42rantghormoon: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/drift_time  is what it is on my T440
00:17.48ghormoonor just ait few days till i get back to my mouse :D
00:17.52rantif I set it to 90 I get no issues
00:18.06rantbut otherwise after scrolling or such it drifts and its annoying
00:18.36ghormoonmine is at 5 now
00:18.44ghormooni did not notice problms but i don't use it much
00:19.09rantyes well that means if you maintain a constant pressure in a certain direction within a threshold, for 5 sec, it'll recalibrate that as center
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00:19.21rantso when you release it'll go the opposite way at equal pressure
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00:19.32rantand will take 5sec of release to recalibrate
00:20.23ghormoonah, that i would ant also higher if i use it instead of touchpad (in the case when touchpad is disabling) :D
00:20.39rantyeah.. I set it to 90 and never had drift
00:20.50ghormoonbecause my only issue with the touchpad is that i installed factorio and i can't aim and mve. I don't want it to be recentering when aiming some direction 5s :D
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00:21.31rantone of those firmware features of the hw I wish I could just disable altogether
00:21.47rantif your trackpoint is ACTUALLY drifting you got bigger problems
00:22.00rantit should only recalibrate on load or by manual
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00:22.23ghormoonyeah manual would be enough (and save the values for reboots)
00:22.32ghormoonthis should not change often
00:22.46ghormoonor just on boot, yeah
00:23.08rantwell apparently the programmers of the firmware thought it should auto-calibrate constantly :D
00:23.11rantits annoying
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00:24.51rantwhen all this fancy stuff is designed it should be an opt-in or at very least an opt-out situation :P
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00:27.29red66hola
00:27.32ghormoonok, not xmonad thing, but got a hint in right diretion. xinput set-prop 11 297 0
00:27.41red66alguien que hable espanol
00:27.47rant!es
00:27.47dpkgEste canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat.
00:28.14ghormoonI'll just make some little toggle-script and bind it somewhere
00:28.15red66gracias
00:28.16rantred66: por favor usar #debian-es
00:28.28red66gracias
00:28.32rantde nada
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00:29.30rantI never thought of it, but I wonder if they have factoid bots for the other language channels :P
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00:30.18ghormoondunno, i never ever tried any other channel, english is my default for all it-related issues
00:30.45rantI should probably spend some time in them.. my language skills are crap and I spent way too much time studying other languages to not be using and retaining them
00:31.20ghormooni should start spanish sometime, especially if i plan to fly to south america for half a year sometime :D
00:31.21EdePopede[ ok ] Starting webfs (via systemctl): webfs.service.
00:31.22rwpI love the syndaemon.  FTW!  I couldn't use a laptop with a touchpad without it.
00:31.25EdePopedeonly it is not running?
00:31.42ghormoonrwp: what exactly you get from it?
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00:33.14ghormooni don't have it, should i care? :D
00:33.39rantEdePopede: never used it but it is possible for some things to only run on demand via hooks into some larger daemon that triggers on access via portmap or such
00:33.49EdePopedeWAT?
00:34.21EdePopedein the past it was like running the file in init.d with start parameter and it worked
00:34.28ghormoonisn't that somethling like a webserver?
00:34.36ghormoonthat would run constantly i guess
00:34.37EdePopedeminimalistic one, yes
00:34.43EdePopedeso i have to reboot?
00:34.51rwpghormoon, My palm drags on the touchpad warping the mouse to undesired places and producing undesired mouse clicks.  Like trying to type with a cat randomly scratching at a touchscreen.
00:34.55ghormoonanything interesting in journal?
00:34.58EdePopededebian going windows thanks to that new manageshit
00:35.10EdePopedeemtpy logfile for that program
00:35.22ghormoonrwp: i never had this issume. maybe i'll start now if i'll be forgetting this option on :D
00:35.50rwpghormoon, With "syndaemon -i 20 -k -d" as soon as I type any key it disables the touchpad for 20 seconds.  As long as I don't pause to think longer than 20 seconds then the touchpad stays disabled and the cat scratching at the touchscreen is contained.
00:35.51EdePopedewas running for don't know how long. restarted it today er yesterday because don't know why. or at least tried
00:36.31EdePopedethat's the best:   Active: active (exited) since Sat 2019-05-11 13:03:15 CEST; 13h ago
00:36.31rwpghormoon, If I do pause to think for a while, or push the laptop to someone else, then 20 seconds has elapsed and they can use the touchpad to move the pointer and all is good.
00:36.38rwpSo it is adaptive technology at its finest.
00:36.40EdePopedesince it is obviously not running
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00:36.49ghormoonrwp: that i had y default without syndaemon and took me now so long to get rid of it :D
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00:37.15ghormoonbut it was like 2seconds, not 20
00:37.28ghormooni would go crazy with 20
00:37.58ghormoonI'm just thinking how to hook up the disabling/enabling of this based on window focus
00:38.01rwpAnd I would go crazy with 2.  I think the default is 5.
00:38.12ghormooni guess there will be something in xmonad for that
00:38.28rwpThe best adaptive technology is the technology that works best for you. :-)
00:38.52ghormoonthe default is obviulsly based on how long you write
00:39.00ghormoonif you just press something it's like 0.1
00:39.02EdePopedeMay 11 13:03:15 tardis systemd[1]: Started LSB: Webfs simple HTTP server.
00:39.05ghormoonif you do lnger, maybe 1-2s
00:39.11EdePopede"started". no, you did NOT start it
00:39.12ghormoonbut that is for the driver thing
00:39.15ghormoonnot the syndaemon
00:39.49EdePopedei think i'll go back to the stoneage. write a wrapper script for it with all variables and start it from there.
00:39.52rwpEdePopede, So in summary you ran systemctl start webfs.service, the command returned, then you ran systemctl status webfs.service, and it said what?
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00:40.30EdePopedei have no idea how it was started before it stopped today. maybe even autostart after install
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00:40.44ghormoonanyway, the driver default wa snot so bad for my usecase. except when i tryed to play a game, then it was totally unusable :D
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00:40.59EdePopedesystemctl start webfs.service returns NOTHING
00:41.14ghormoonsystemctl status webfs.service
00:41.41EdePopedeno new entries since what looks like when it was stopped half a day ago
00:41.47rwpEdePopede, Right.  I hate that.  But that is the way it is designed to work.
00:41.57EdePopedehipster shit
00:42.05rantheh
00:42.09rwpsystemctl sends a dbus message to systemd telling systemd to start it.  Then you must ask it with status what it did.
00:42.14rantwondered what that smell was
00:42.16EdePopedethey should let unix devs do such stuff who know their business
00:42.45ghormoonsome of my bozes stil don't have systemd despite being jessie. I'll need to check if i can dist-upgrade them to stretch and keep systemd pinned out :D
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00:43.03ghormoon*boxes
00:43.03EdePopede# /etc/init.d/webfs start
00:43.03EdePopede[ ok ] Starting webfs (via systemctl): webfs.service.
00:43.10EdePopedesystemd is a fucking liar
00:43.22rwpghormoon, What makes you think Jessie equals running systemd?  I am running Jessie, Stretch, Buster, and Sid without systemd.
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00:43.42EdePopedebecause the marketing i think
00:43.48EdePopede"we use systemd now"
00:43.52ghormoonrwp: it is the default. I know i can run it without, i do it. but i didn't test it out in stretch yet, too lazy :D
00:43.53EdePopedeeveryone saying that
00:44.21ghormoonon laptop, i just gave up and have stretch with systemd
00:44.24EdePopedeand it even won't let start a simple webserver
00:44.57dondelelcaroEdePopede: it's pretty trivial to start daemons with systemd
00:45.26EdePopedewell?
00:45.34EdePopedestart me webfs then
00:45.53ghormoonit's trivial until something goes nuts which you'd see on first sight with sys-v back then, so if youre not used to it and where to look, not always
00:46.21rwpIt's the debug side of things which is most important.  And that part was the part they left out of the million lines of source code.
00:46.25dondelelcaroEdePopede: systemctl start webfs;
00:46.36EdePopedesystemd is some overcomplex crap where you'd need one of these courses where you pay 150€ per day
00:46.38rantI'd only tried removing systemd once in jessie when I first encountered it.. and it was not pretty.. having gotten used to it, I see it tied into all parts of the system in ways I just dont see how its possible for the system to run without it anymore
00:46.41ghormooncan you paste systemctl status webfs.service somewhere?
00:46.48EdePopededondelelcaro: guess what...
00:46.52dondelelcaroEdePopede: if it's not starting, systemctl status webfs; or journalctl -xe
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00:47.10EdePopede<EdePopede> systemctl start webfs.service returns NOTHING
00:47.18ghormoonrant: but that's not that glorious reason to use it. because things get broken if you don't :d
00:47.26dondelelcaroEdePopede: you mean it doesn't output anything? That's expected.
00:47.36EdePopede"is". not by me.
00:47.51EdePopedei expect a "OK" or a "fail" when i don't get an interface
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00:48.20EdePopedeor is it ok for you if you order something and get no answer?
00:48.23rantghormoon: no, but there arent really many glorious as you put it, reasons not to either.. most my complaints turned out to be rather moot arguments with not wanting to learn how to use something that addresses issues linux has been plagued by for ages
00:48.33EdePopedestarting a daemon is in no way different
00:48.37rwpEdePopede, "systemctl start ..." never prints anything.  It isn't supposed to.
00:48.38ghormoonrant: actually easiest way was always pin the packages before dist-upgrade from wheezy, but that's not how you should do it at this day anymore :D
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00:48.46EdePopedethen it is broken by design
00:48.48dondelelcaroEdePopede: that's not how systemd works, for good reason.
00:48.53EdePopedenot the first time such happens
00:48.55rwpEdePopede, It is "systemctl status ..." that we need to see.
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00:49.40dondelelcaroEdePopede: starting services shouldn't output things to the console, because that doesn't scale. if you want to output things to the console, you can combine start with status
00:49.53EdePopedehttp://paste.debian.net/plain/1083545
00:50.00EdePopedeas i said, nothing since it was stopped
00:50.06EdePopedeinstead of being restarted
00:50.28rwpThere you go.  "Address already in use"  Failed.  You have another process running on the desired port.
00:50.38ghormoonbut yeah, i'm also slowly giving up and have systemd on some boxes. it has it's pros and cons, so it's really mostly apout getting used to it, but still i don't like the one-ring-to-rule-them-all philosophy (and binary logs etc. :D)
00:50.40ebliphey could i run the same install of debian 9 for like 5 years ..and just do updates and upgrades.
00:50.42EdePopededoesn't scale? check if there's a terminal and then say OK or OOPS
00:50.58eblipor do they close the repos or something
00:51.17rwpI was curious about the "doesn't scale" comment as well.
00:51.49EdePopederwp, definitely not. avahi and dhclient are the only ones running
00:51.51rwpSo what is the lsof or ss command to find processes attached to a port?
00:52.03dondelelcarorwp: netstat -plunt
00:52.09EdePopedeand this was from half a day ago
00:52.12ghormooneblip: if you're ok with lts support, 5 years usually. dist-upgrades might require some changes as there's a ton of new sw coming in. depends on your usecase a lot
00:52.26rwpWhat port are you trying to use for webfs?
00:52.31EdePopedelsof -i -P for me
00:52.33eblipah ok ghormoon
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00:52.51rwpEven for LTS one must upgrade through and stopping at each release individually. Can't skip releases!
00:52.55ghormooni guess after LTS period is over, the repos shut off. so if you start one year before ned, you have one year :)
00:53.05EdePopederwp, was 8000 before. now it should  bind to 80, didn't even touch the conf
00:53.25EdePopedeoh, even for root 8000: # port to listen on (default: 8000)
00:53.28dondelelcarorwp: logging to a console works only as long as there actually is a console and someone is looking at it; when you have thousands of machines and daemons potentially starting asyncronously, it doesn't work.
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00:54.09EdePopedei *have* only one machine. and i do start it from the terminal. so where's the problem?
00:54.25ghormoonEdePopede: netstat -lpn | grep 8000     what's listening there already?
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00:54.34rwpEdePopede, What does "netstat -plunt | grep :80" say?  Run it as root.
00:54.58EdePopedenothing
00:55.17EdePopedeavahi. dhclient. and finito.
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00:55.28EdePopedeand they both have their own ports
00:55.48rwpdondelelcaro, Huh? Where did "logging to a console" appear?  No one was talking about that.  Not in this thread.
00:56.18rwpWe were talking about standard output.  Not the system console.
00:56.35ghormooneblip: currently with stretch, you have about 3 years left. if you're preparing something new that's not going to production so soon, maybe start it right away on buster
00:57.05eblipah no ...ghormoon 3 years will be fine
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00:57.07ghormoonbut testing doesn't have so fast security updates, so if it's something critical, better go with stable
00:57.13EdePopededoing a dumb start in the shell works with both ports
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00:57.32rwpTesting right now is still getting a lot of updates churning through.  Even during the hard freeze.
00:58.00ghormooneblip: and after the 3 years, just do a copy, test dist-upgrade and see if it's ok. depends on what you're runnig there, but you have high chances
00:58.19EdePopedethe problem is definitely systemd. without it it works.
00:58.27eblipi just switched from opensuse to debian on a laptop...only reason i switched was that i couldnt get the net installer of opensuse working ...but debian worked no messing ...only use the machine for basic stuff so its not important ..i just want minimum maintenance and reliability
00:58.47ghormoonrwp: yeah, but if it's something going to production in a year (we know corporate projects), then it's good time to start it on buster :D
00:59.01eblipyes that makes a lot of sense
00:59.03rwpFor upgrades always read through the Release Notes carefully.  They cover a huge breadth of detail.  Really good stuff there.
00:59.27rwpghormoon, It's fine if you have someone who knows the system well and can keep an eye on it during this time too.
00:59.49ghormooneblip: i never had issues with dist-upgrading laptop yet. except that i had kde 4, after dist-upgrade there was kde 5, which i hated, so i had to switch to xmonad :D
01:00.08eblipyes i love xmonad
01:00.16eblipthats what i use on my 2 workstations
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01:00.24ebliptidy and fast and no frills whatsoever
01:00.54ghormoonbut for laptop, maybe I'd go for buster already, i often install testing right away for laptops on new installs so i don't have to worry later :D
01:01.24rwpI'm pretty happy with i3.  :-)
01:01.31eblipit already done ..so i wont go back to it..but i will probably do that on new laptops ghormoon
01:01.33ghormoonor you might want xmonad from backports if you're on stable :)
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01:02.36eblipill leave the laptop as gnome...its just a device i take here and there occasionally and nothing technical on it whatsoever..just browse and mail and the odd document
01:03.10rwpThere is something to be said for "thin clients".
01:03.15ghormoonyeah then it doesn't matter much. especially if you borrow the laptop to random ppl. custon-setup xmonad is not so easy to borrow :D
01:03.35eblipdefinitely ...my main machines are old as hell . but function really well with xmonad and urxvt
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01:07.03eblipanother thing i noticed with opensuse on the laptop...as time progressed the fan started going like the clappers after 2 years
01:07.13ebliphope that doesnt happen with debian.
01:07.34ghormoonclean it :D
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01:08.09ghormooni guess firefox with open facebook can eat ennough resources no matter what os is underneath and if it  gets hot ... :D
01:08.12eblipit was pretty clean ghormoon, i didnt really put much on there ..just tmux ...and very few files
01:08.25rwpI have noticed that in the pursuit of performance sometimes the kernel sacrifices power and things do change from kernel to kernel.
01:09.18eblipi have never had my installs degrade so much ...i put it down to updates not cleaning properly
01:09.20ghormoonyeah the defaults might differ a bit
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01:09.32eblipwhich is possibly an open suse issue
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01:09.55ghormoonno idea, but my collegue who has opensuse reinstalls like twice a year :D
01:10.06rwpOlder machines have older cpus and older cpus are not tested as thoroughly as the new set.  So the older systems get broken more often.
01:10.24eblipyes... it shouldnt be necesary.. i used to do that many years ago with windows
01:10.40eblipbut im running gentoo on my main workstations and the installs are like 4 years old
01:10.49rwpWhich is the opposite of devices.  The newest devices are not yet supported in the mainline kernel.  So one wants at least a two year old system so that devices are supported.
01:10.51eblipand performance and everything is really good
01:11.15eblipah ok
01:12.24DixieNormousActivist: im having an issue connecting to you on PM? any advice
01:12.40activistsure.
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01:13.56ghormooni consider anythin from samdybridge onwards new enough for my usecases usually :D
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01:27.14EdePopedewhat the heck is this now... copied the webfs init.d script to /usr/local, added an echo even right after the hashbang line, but still no output. after renaming it works. `which` gives me the correct answer, and /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin - no reason why the binary should be executed instead oO
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01:32.31ksksys-v-rc?
01:32.47EdePopedeyep
01:33.16EdePopedebut why isn't it used? it comes *before* the binary in the path
01:33.25kskhave fun debugging it. should only be like some hundred lines of sh/bash I suppse.
01:33.46EdePopedenot too much. only the usual sourcings and the case at the end
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01:33.59EdePopedeit works after renaming, so the script is not the problem
01:34.06agiohi, does anyone know how to tell when the last time apt local cache was updated?
01:34.19EdePopedeit's not even used when it has the same name as the binary
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01:34.41kovaksI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:34.41kovaksbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:34.41kovaksacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
01:34.41kovaks/JOIN #nginx for more information
01:34.48sigalotHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:34.48sigalotI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:34.48sigalotbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:34.48sigalotacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:35.06opelHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:35.06opelI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:35.06opelbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:35.06opelacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:35.08bot_cakepHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:35.08bot_cakepI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:35.08bot_cakepbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:35.08bot_cakepacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:36.13toyeI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:36.13toyebecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:36.13toyeacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:36.17ksksome people do seem to have too much freetime :/
01:36.28lampungSelatanHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:36.28lampungSelatanI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:36.28lampungSelatanbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:36.28lampungSelatanacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
01:36.28lampungSelatan/JOIN #nginx for more information
01:37.02kskdpkg: ops we have a little spamming issue here.
01:37.03dpkgHydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: ksk complains about a problem (see above)
01:37.11EdePopedemore free time than braincells
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01:37.56ogataHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:37.56ogataI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:37.56ogatabecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:37.56ogataacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
01:37.56ogata/JOIN #nginx for more information, p.s. this is a mass advertisement so PM me directly by typing /msg vandemar hey
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01:38.20carperI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:38.20carperbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:38.20carperacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:40.31hookerI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:40.31hookerbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:40.31hookeracross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:40.36sarmintoHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:40.36sarmintoI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:40.36sarmintobecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:40.36sarmintoacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:40.42vgjloealoI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:40.42vgjloealobecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
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01:40.48casparI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:40.48casparbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:40.48casparacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
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01:43.02indomitablecasplol what
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01:43.12indomitablethis caspar dude is a troll
01:43.14indomitableno doubt
01:43.18indomitablenginx is not dying
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01:43.52JonHanDinCan you hear me?
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01:44.17agio(re-posting due to spam)  does anyone know how to tell when the last time apt local cache was updated?
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01:44.29perlmanHey, I am vandermar and I represent the #nginx community as its leader
01:44.29perlmanI would like to notify all NGINX users to urgently update to Apache or any other software,
01:44.29perlmanbecause Sysoev declared the end of project. He asked us, #nginx staff, to spread this message
01:44.29perlmanacross all the open source software community, including this channel. Thank you for your attention!
01:44.29perlman/JOIN #nginx for more information, p.s. this is a mass advertisement so PM me directly by typing /msg vandemar hey
01:45.10milktwhat is going on here
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01:45.20EdePopedeagio: i'd look into /var/cache/apt
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01:46.31finisherRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:46.31finishernginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:46.31finisherRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:46.31finishernginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
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01:46.37fcqjgjdRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:46.37fcqjgjdnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:46.37fcqjgjdRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:46.37fcqjgjdnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:46.45carayannopoulosRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:46.45carayannopoulosnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:46.46carayannopoulosRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:46.46carayannopoulosnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:46.48agiofor the srcpackage.bin file?
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01:47.32margettsRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people (such as EdePopede or indomitable) who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.32margettsnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:47.32margettsRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.32margettsnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
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01:47.35kskagio: not sure if what you want is possible. Do you have another, real question hiding behind your inital one? ;)
01:47.37trooperRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people (such as EdePopede or indomitable) who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.37troopernginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:47.37trooperRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.37troopernginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:47.40EdePopedeagio: is newer here than ctime of the latest package, so maybe yes
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01:47.45windowsXPRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people (such as EdePopede or indomitable) who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.45windowsXPnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:47.45windowsXPRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.45windowsXPnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
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01:47.52zwiersnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:47.52zwiersRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.52zwiersnginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
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01:47.52ghassaninginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
01:47.52ghassaniRumors like "nginx is not dying" come from autistic people who think they are smart, ignore these
01:47.52ghassaninginx project is ended, /msg vandemar NEED HELP WITH NGINX for more information
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01:51.54agioI ended up just ls'ing /var/lib/apt/list/ and looking for the file with the  newest mod time
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01:52.51EdePopedeah or this one. but older here than srcpackage.bin
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02:33.21themillksk: $ means extended ban syntax, ~ is not, a means registered.
02:33.49kskthanks!
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02:57.20_Random_hi guys, I'm not much of a techie, I had to make a USB windows installer img, I don't use windows, I had to repair a relatives PC with it. But I wish to save the usb img as an ISO so I don't have to go through this process again. how do I save this as an iso on my linux p
02:58.15ksk!dd
02:58.15dpkghmm... dd is an abbreviation for Debian Developer, or a utility for the low-level copying and conversion of raw data: man dd, dd if=/foo/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 to produce a bootable floppy, dd if=/dev/hdc of=image.iso to make an image of a CD/DVD.  See also <win32 dd>, <ddrescue>, <gddrescue>. <pv>
02:58.56kskthere might be more fancy tools, but dd should do it.
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03:01.47_Random_thanks
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04:25.20bigMouthCommieso. my dad, who is blind, had an emphatic reaction to hearing espeak: "i don't want to listen to stephen hawking"
04:25.28bigMouthCommiethere may have been explicatives too
04:25.33bigMouthCommiei found the voice variants, but i don't know how to get espeak to use them when i'm running emacspeak.
04:25.41bigMouthCommieis there a system-wide config i can use to declare --voices=female7
04:26.06bigMouthCommieor does anyone know if i can config emacspeak to call espeak with --voices=female7 ?
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04:42.59kanliotbigMouthCommie, i would look at the documentation for the software that uses espeak.  i don't think you're actually using espeak
04:45.44bigMouthCommiekanliot, i'm using emacspeak, which asked me which tts engine to use. i told it to use espeak
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04:47.25kanliotdid you google changing voice in emacspeak?
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05:17.46bigMouthCommiekanliot of course
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05:19.59kanliotdid you set dtk-default-voice?
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05:20.22kanliothonestly im guessing here
05:20.29kanliotthere's a bunch of things to seet
05:20.31kanliotset
05:22.08bigMouthCommiewell i'm not using a dectalk, i 'm using espeak
05:22.13bigMouthCommieand there are a million voices to set
05:22.21bigMouthCommiesrsly its intimidating
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05:39.38kanliotspend 10 more minutes on it, then ask on the mailing list
05:39.41kanliotbigMouthCommie,
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06:18.21bigMouthCommiekanliot: thanx
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06:51.51COOurbI wanna move my system from hdd to ssd lesser size. What hsould I do?
06:52.28COOurbMy system is installed on software raid
06:52.37nkuttlerinstall os, copy files?
06:52.38COOurband now I have only one of the raid vlumes
06:52.47COOurbI mean, withour installing os
06:53.10nkuttlerwhy? probably faster anyway..
06:53.27COOurbToo many tp configure
06:53.30COOurbto*
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08:00.29skankhunthow do i install keepassxc on stable?
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08:05.08babilenjudd: v keepassxc
08:05.09juddPackage: keepassxc on amd64 -- stretch-backports: 2.3.4+dfsg.1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 2.3.4+dfsg.1-1; sid: 2.3.4+dfsg.1-1
08:05.17babilenskankhunt: You can grab it from stretch-backports ^
08:05.50babilenhttp://backports.debian.org/Instructions/
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08:09.49skankhuntthank you babilen :)
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08:15.03skankhuntdoes anyone know if it is possible to install nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver on testing?
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08:17.39nkuttler,v nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
08:17.41juddPackage: nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver on amd64 -- jessie/non-free: 304.137-0~deb8u1; stretch-backports/non-free: 304.137-5~bpo9+1; stretch/non-free: 304.137-5~deb9u1; sid/non-free: 304.137-7
08:18.16nkuttler,checkbackport nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver
08:18.17juddBackporting package nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch.
08:18.31nkuttler!tell skankhunt about ssbp
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08:19.03nkuttlerin your case you'd do that in testing. you can maybe even simply install the sid package..
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08:21.27skankhunti tried to upgrade to testing from stable by changing sources.list nvidia 304 didn't work then
08:21.41skankhuntare you sure it will work using this method
08:22.19skankhuntand is there a reason why this driver is available on sid but on testing
08:23.27nkuttlerdude..
08:23.49nkuttlerwhy do you "upgrade" to testing if you can't fix such problems :\
08:23.55nkuttler!debian-next
08:23.55dpkg#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode.  If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
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08:24.55skankhunti didnt know that at the the time, im on stable now
08:25.53skankhunti read that testing is stable enough for daily use ,that's why i had upgraded
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08:29.45babilenskankhunt: If you run testing you can just pull in the packages from sid (in fact you often have to) -- Given that buster is nearing the end of its release cycle you might want to evaluate your choice of platform though. If you plan to track buster in the future (rather than testing), it would make sense to look into backporting the package
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08:39.57skankhuntnvidia-legacy-304xx-driver isn't supported by any other distros,will debian keep supporting it?
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08:42.55skankhunti want to know if nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver will be supported in future releases
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08:58.36agioprobably your package is installe - but not yet config scripts have run
08:59.00agiodoes anyone know how to enable xml extension for php?
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09:50.24r00toboyesterday I was asking about Intel Integrated GPU for 9th gen.
09:50.42r00toboafter some digging I found this https://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_4.15#Graphics
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09:50.57r00tobomeaning that CoffeeLake is already supported since 4.15
09:51.28r00tobosince the official kernel for Debian buster is 4.19 then I can say that 9th gen Integrated GPU will work just fine ?
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09:55.18Vesogwhats there to lose if you try
09:55.33Vesogshkoni tek netedy ju nimfat e tzarit
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10:08.37shtrbWill dist-upgrade from stretch to buster force move to wayland ?
10:09.14shtrbasking because seen that wayland will be default at  https://jmtd.net/log/buster_wayland/
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10:14.44ayekatshtrb: that's about what GNOME will use by default - but AFAIK one can always choose between the two
10:15.23shtrbI get it, but I'm asking dist-upgrade wise
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10:32.01rbanffyHi folks. Besides Konsole and Gnome Terminal (and derived ones), do we know of any other terminal emulators that support overline escape sequence? So far, rxvt, xterm and pangoterm don't
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12:49.39afidegnumhello, what is the best utility to backup my linux image?
12:49.48afidegnumusing debien 98
12:49.51afidegnum9
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13:03.16HelloShittyHi
13:03.29HelloShittyAnyone here knows a bit about shell scripting?
13:03.48HelloShittyI'm writing a small and basic script but I'm getting an error I can't fix
13:05.44abrotmanThere's a whole #bash
13:06.22HelloShittyok, thanks
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13:07.14pagetelegramLooking for a console only debian app....everyone I looked up requires X11...any suggestions? Running on a Pocket CHIP jessie
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13:07.21pagetelegram*bible app
13:08.01abrotmanpagetelegram: apt-cache search bible?
13:08.36pagetelegramWill I know which one's are console framebuffer only?
13:09.23abrotmanyou can read the description and requirements
13:09.35pagetelegramthank you
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13:26.59BodiroWhat does ist mean when a package is named with dfsg? E.g. virtualbox_6.0.6-dfsg-2_amd64.deb
13:27.37themillit means that the dodgy source provided by the upstream developers has been cleaned up to comply with the DFSG
13:27.40themill!DFSG
13:27.40dpkgDFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines .  For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses
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13:29.39Bodirothemill: thank you for your clear answer!
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13:32.01Bodirodpkg: I knew the meaning of dfsg, but was uncertain of the special meaning in package-names. Nevertheless, thanks, too.
13:32.02dpkgYou are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Bodiro
13:33.15BodiroOh, sorry -  it is a bot, LOL - I am not so familiar with this rooms bots.
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13:51.49tsujpHas anyone here successfully built AND run vdo on debian? I'm having some trouble. Would love some assistance if possible
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13:56.02wald0anybody else experiencing kernel CRASHES by simply using a FS in reiser3 ?
13:56.16wald04.19-0-4-amd64 (buster)
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14:03.26blackswanhas somebody developed some magical tool that i can download that will show me a graphical view of my apt dependency problems? i'm hoping the answer is yes and somebody will tell me where it is. it's a small hope, but a hope nevertheless.
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14:05.21cousin_luigiGood afternoon.
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14:06.16tsujpAnyone got this compiled for debian and able to run it yet? https://github.com/dm-vdo/kvdo and https://github.com/dm-vdo/vdo
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14:08.09wald0blackswan: apt-get -f install
14:08.27wald0blackswan: if doesn't solve, apt-get remove (every package shown in the previous errors)
14:08.33wald0blackswan: dont' mix reops
14:08.35wald0repos*
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14:09.50blackswanwald0: all good advice, but tangential to the question i asked. i'm not asking for help with the dependency problem, i'm asking if there is a nifty tool around that might let one view such things graphically
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14:11.32gouryesterday 've installed buster on my desktop and NM does not render proper icon for 'wired connected' connenction - it shows '?' instead. any hint?
14:11.46themillblackswan: when the objective is to not create such problems, such tools are not needed and hence I don't know of any
14:12.32blackswanyeah, i guess there's no market for it.
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14:15.21blackswana general tool for visualizing and manipulating a dependency graph might be a thing
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14:20.55EdePopededebtree and dot at least show dependencies of individual packages. comparing still would be to be done manually. or by using some scripts on the .dot files.
14:21.59EdePopedeor with SVG output directly on the image, but this seems like some work
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14:22.26themillvisualising a tree is straightforward enough. I don't know how you'd visualise problems in it
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14:36.04themillcousin_luigi: some are now served by salsa gitlab pages.
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14:37.10tsujpCan anyone possibly help me out with this? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/518549/compiling-vdo-for-use-on-debian
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14:38.24cousin_luigithemill: Thanks. Not there though.
14:38.55cousin_luigiLooking for the xtrace homepage btw. Wherever the development takes place.
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15:43.58ryoubahow do i find out what the reason of "/etc/init.d/networking start" failing is? still not used to systemd occultism :(
15:44.20ryouba(no, "journalctl -xn" does not give helpful information)
15:45.11kskryouba: bad things in e/n/i most likely. there really is no debug info for that as far as I know.
15:45.17kskmaybe share your interfaces file
15:45.18ksk!paste
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15:47.17ryoubaksk: https://i.imgur.com/tGIwewj.png
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15:47.41ryouba(can't paste right now because no ssh because no network)
15:48.20kska little hard to tell if you blur out details. looks fine so far Id say
15:48.25kskdid you try a reboot?
15:48.40kskiirc networking can be in such conditions networking restart does not bring it up - but a reboot can.
15:49.04kskalso, Id suggest commenting out everything but your primary interface, and try if that works.
15:49.07ryoubaksk: the details are, from top to bottom: public IP, 255.255.255.255, hypervisor IP, hypervisor IP.
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15:49.38ryoubaksk: my frustration is mostly with not being able to help myself. if e.g. that file's syntax is faulty, how do i find out on a system with systemd?
15:50.31ryoubaaaaaaaaaha!
15:50.41ryoubaksk: thank you very much! indeed, the reboot solved the problem!
15:50.46kskas I said, you dont. I suppose e/n/i is 1980 and has no (useful) debugging mechanics. you could try to manually take up an interface via "ifup ethX" which could give some information
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15:51.01ksk!next
15:51.02dpkgAnother happy customer leaves the building.
15:51.16tdsthe systemd equivalent would be systemctl start networking, and you can systemctl status networking.service or journalctl -u networking.service to get some log output from it
15:51.30tdsbut it's just running ifup for you, so running that by hand works fine as well :)
15:52.18ryoubaksk: well, before systemd, you did get a message indicating if the file syntax was faulty, or, for example, the syntax was ok, but the contents were nonsensical. i can't believe systemd doesn't offer a way to still see the output from (trying to parse|parsing) that file?
15:52.34tdsdoing live changes with ifupdown is also not especially trivial, you might want to look at ifupdown2 if that's something you need
15:52.39ryoubaaha!
15:52.50ryoubaso "ifup eth0" for debugging?
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15:53.03tdssure - though keep in mind that'll fail if eth0 is already up and configured
15:53.24tdsif it doesn't come up cleanly on reboot, systemctl status networking is going to be what you want
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15:54.58kskshould have to do nothing with systemd, I always found "networking" error messages not too helpful.
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16:03.18pfred1stage right
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16:04.03nubiesorry, need some advice is there anything i can check if debian could not get ip from public hotspot(with login page)
16:04.41nubiei tried to connect my debian to wifi hotspot hotel in the network manager it just rolling loading
16:05.05nubiewhen i checked from ifconfig it just like not get the ip
16:05.21nubiewhen using my android it can connect though
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16:07.37grobihi guys :)
16:07.47ksknubie: did you set network manager to use dhcp?
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16:08.52grobii got following promptet after updateE: The repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch Release' does no longer have a Release file.
16:09.30nubieyes ksk
16:09.41nubiei use network manager
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16:10.09kskdont tell the grey cat, but what happens if you do "dhclient $wifi-interface" in a root shell?
16:10.50kskIm not a desktop guy, so I really dont know anything about NM :(
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16:22.37wald0why my user in buster cannot "ping" or run "dmesg" ? how i can make it working?
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16:34.36pfred1wald0 you can grant your user permissions in the sudoers file if you use sudo
16:34.37kskiirc buster changed from setuid ping to some other method, mhhm.
16:34.57kskcapabilities If Im not mistaken.
16:36.07wald0mmh, yeah i actually use sudo but damn, is frustrating typing sudo everytime just for ping
16:36.28pfred1yeah you can just fix that in sudoers
16:36.39jmcnaughtwald0: dmesg is root only starting with stretch, '/msg dpkg dmesg' has a link to a bug report about it
16:36.54pfred1yeah it's annoying
16:37.05kskwald0: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/06/msg00118.html
16:37.34pfred1if I'm doing that sort of thing myself I just start an interactive root terminal
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16:38.19pfred1because sudo this and sudo that does get old fast for me too
16:38.55pfred1so I do one sudo -i and just do all the root commands there
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17:16.44qman__I'm having trouble with the debian installer environment not setting search domains in resolv.conf (from DHCP)
17:17.36qman__alpine linux sets it just fine, so I've confirmed my configuration works
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17:20.04qman__I'm setting both domain-name and domain-search options
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17:21.45qman__I've also confirmed that both debian and ubuntu installers have the same problem, so I'm guessing there's either some extra configuration I need to set for the debian installer, or it's a bug
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17:24.21qman__the reason it's an issue is I'm trying to use preseeding on more than one network, with the preseed files at different IPs, so I need short DNS names to work
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18:09.43jhutchinsqman__: How many machines are you building?
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18:23.58qman__jhutchins: it's hard to say, but the purpose is to have an automated pxe install environment, for combination VM infrastructure and physical servers
18:24.20qman__I have it all working if I specify an IP, but by doing that, I can only have one subnet work at a time
18:24.33qman__there are ways to hack around this, but really, search domains should just work, and they don't
18:25.16GNU\colossussearch domains are a hack themselves in my book ;)
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19:01.29ryoubaoh my
19:01.42ryoubaguys/gals please don't slaughter me for this, but ...
19:01.52ryoubahow do you install apache2 on a wheezy box?
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19:02.04ryoubai inadvertently removed it and can't get it installed again
19:02.11ksk!archive
19:02.11dpkgmethinks archive is a collection of files.  'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools.  This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation.  Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive .  For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>.  Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/
19:02.26ksklook at the last point of that sentence ;)
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19:02.40ryoubaksk: yes, that's my only repo ... main, non-free, contrib
19:02.53ryoubaBUT ... "apache2 : Depends: apache2-mpm-worker (= 2.2.22-13+deb7u6) but it is not going to be installed or" (and some others)
19:03.06humpledapache on wheezy huh
19:03.16kskalso, you should really upgrade.
19:03.48ryoubaksk: yes, after i fix this. that was kind of like the plan...
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19:04.40ryoubaoh ... i have an idea!
19:04.53ryoubais there a way to list all packages that are NOT from the currently active repositories?
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19:05.28ryouba(this server was abused a lot over the past 11 years, need to be creative when you **** something up)
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19:06.33ryoubaaaah!
19:06.35ryoubalibaprutil1
19:06.38ryoubawas the culprit
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19:07.32ryoubaoooooooph ... working again ... *wipes sweat off forehead*
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19:09.27shalokCan I get someone to paste the output of this command please?: TERM=xterm tput kcuu1 | od -An -tx1
19:09.54shalokI'm wondering if my machine's terminfo database got messed up somehow...
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19:32.15nkuttlerhrm, how would i configure an apt proxy dynamically? make APT_CONFIG dynamic for root/sudo?
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19:39.24rantwhen I did ssh-agent add .ssh/id_ecdsa it says "Could not add identity ".ssh/id_ecdsa": communication with agent failed" I have /usr/bin/ssh-agent mate-session running as my user
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20:00.15w1d3m0d3is there a debian-testing specific chan?
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20:02.19ksk!debian-next
20:02.19dpkg#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode.  If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net.
20:02.30w1d3m0d3okay gotya
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20:03.05ksknkuttler: set HTTP_PROXY via bashrc?
20:03.43RoyKor http_proxy
20:03.55RoyKiirc it must be in lower case
20:04.03kskah okay, I tend to mess that up :)
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20:05.18RoyKksk: and https_proxy
20:05.26nkuttlerapt respects http_proxy?
20:05.34ksksure.
20:05.38RoyKlast I checked
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20:07.29nkuttleri don't think apt-cacher-ng is a generic http proxy though
20:07.40kskit totally is not.
20:08.07kskprotip: setup nginx caching proxy, pointing to the repos. use that in your sources.list
20:08.15nkuttlermmh
20:08.28kskwill totally outperform apt-cacher-ng, if that also is an issue ;)
20:08.46nkuttlernah, it's just at home, but i'll look into it
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20:10.37borahi all I would lie to ask something about Systemd
20:10.50galtjhi, what to do if apt-get sources.list gets out of date?
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20:11.07kskgaltj: context?
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20:11.36galtji'm on wheezy, but apt-get stopped working
20:11.43galtjand it seems to be outdated
20:11.45ksk!archive
20:11.45dpkgextra, extra, read all about it, archive is a collection of files.  'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools.  This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation.  Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive .  For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>.  Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/
20:11.56borawhy debian is using systemd  ? Because lots of people said that it is buggy
20:11.56ksk!debian archives
20:11.58dpkgDebian has archives of no-longer-supported releases at http://archive.debian.org/ .  To use with <APT>, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive .  For old versions of specific packages, ask me about <snapshot>.  Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/
20:12.09kskgaltj: archives for you.
20:12.37boraor do you advice devuan which is the debian forks
20:12.40kskbora: because the people in charge think its better than what we had before - And I mostly agree.
20:12.49galtjksk: i need to upgrade i think
20:12.52kskwe do not advice devuan in here, its a debian support channel
20:12.56kskgaltj: I think so, too.
20:12.58ksk!devuan
20:12.58dpkgDevuan (https://devuan.org/) is a Debian <derivative>, meant to avoid dependencies on <systemd>.  Not supported in #debian, please see #devuan on chat.freenode.net for support.
20:13.15galtjksk: right, what should i put in my apt-get sources.list?
20:13.39kskgaltj: I suppse the links in the faqtoid will lead you to that answer.
20:14.22ksk"http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/" If I had to guess. But never did that, I have up2date systems ;)
20:14.35galtjksk: can i put jessie the sources.list
20:14.45galtjand then do the upgrade?
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20:15.13kskyou should first update to the latest state of wheezy I suppose, if you have not yet. But yes.
20:15.15boraksk : you agree with systemd haters
20:15.20ksk!tell galtj about wheezy->jessie
20:15.36kskbora: did you not read what I said? No, I do not.
20:15.59galtjthx
20:16.26boraksk : mm ok ksk this is my fault
20:16.29borasorry
20:16.42kskbora: have you ever written a systemd service defintion? Its superior to any sys-v-rc foo if you asked me..
20:16.52cybercryptogaltj: apt is the second command line based front provided by APT which overcomes some design mistakes of apt-get. Slowly apt-get will get phased-out perhaps. https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html
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20:19.29borano I did not write any systemd service definition . I just  ask  .Thats all
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20:19.40borathanks for information ksk
20:22.40humpledi just edited one to have an autologin on one tty, it was pretty similar to doing it in /etc/inittab, just as easy anyway
20:25.14galtjcybercrypto: ok, so its "apt" now
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20:26.55kskI suppose this was the intention of aptitude, too? :P
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20:27.13humpledaptitude has an ncurses interface
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20:30.14EdePopedeif systemd is so superior i'm still wondering why it took me only 1 minute to get my webfsd started without any problems using copies of the sysv-rc and the config after i tried several times with systemd and it refused to cooperate.
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20:32.30kskmust be you :>
20:33.58kskalso, there is a debian packages. does it not come with a systemd unit file?
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20:35.27kskhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=926660 mhmkay.
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20:36.21galtjcompiling computer..................
20:45.25jhutchinsksk: Not everything's migrated.
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20:46.14kskthats why I asked - it does though, just a buggy one it seems.
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20:57.36ross`Hello! Does anyone know how to get a uvc capture device working! :)
20:57.42ross`ross@coffee:~$ uvccapture
20:57.43ross`Unable to set format: 16. Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal
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21:04.17rantyou know.. you can change windows in irssi doing
21:04.29rantECHAN :P
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21:13.52pfred1rant I use ALT+#
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21:16.25rantpfred1: yes well Esc+# works, as does Ctrl+P/N, Alt+Left/Right, /# etc..
21:16.55kskalt+left/right - did not know, nice!
21:17.01pfred1rant how about that i never knew about the arrows
21:17.25rantand the Esc/Alt+# thing it wraps all the way down all the letter keys work too for windows above 10
21:18.43rantthe letter keys are windows 11-35
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21:19.31ranterm 36 even
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21:20.29rantthough for all I know some of the non-letter keys might work.. I dont really use more than 20 windows
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21:22.15pfred14 is my limit
21:23.53annadanesomeone remind me how to install a stable version of a package as opposed to the backported one i have installed?
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21:24.13kskdowngrading might, or might not work, depending on the package.
21:24.29annadanei'm aware, i'm just looking for the syntax
21:24.55annadanei think it's just apt install foo/stretch
21:25.14annadaneyeah that's it
21:25.17kskannadane: -t might also do, not sure.
21:25.17annadaneanswered my own question
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21:34.07jhutchinsannadane: So that last one you posted is it?
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23:01.13monkeystanceraspbian is making me seriously considering converting to debian
23:06.02jhutchinsmonkeystance: It's a good solid system for getting work done.
23:08.51monkeystanceso do most people here use vanilla
23:08.57monkeystanceor are you running a fork?
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23:14.12dvsmonkeystance, everyone here should be using the vanilla version
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23:16.04monkeystanceoh ok
23:16.35monkeystancethey probably all have their own channels here anyway
23:16.47rwpIf you ask a very generic Debian question such as how to use apt-cache to search for packages then we are happy to help.
23:17.10rwpBut many questions become very specific such as how do I install some version X of Y and that is specific to each distribution.
23:17.17dvsrwp, right now, monkeystance is on raspbian
23:17.29rwpRaspbian, Mint, Ubuntu, all have their own channels for such things.
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23:25.54MalkataChochkaHi, boys! It's time for my Live Show. I start in 10 minutes. If you would like to watch, just send me a message "Free Vip Invite" in the Cam Site (and let the fun begin!). Link: https://ix2.co/gvcYro9
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23:29.31metbsdis there security fix to stable?
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23:36.54kskmetbsd: mhm?
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