| 00:00.19 | Lady_Aleena | Will I always be afraid of dist-upgrades? |
| 00:00.26 | rant | m0rd3cai: as far as I can see this is the fun utility of crappy docks like that, they try to be both launchers and task/window lists and they cant really be both |
| 00:00.41 | rant | those kinds of setups are for people who dont do such complicated things |
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| 00:01.47 | rant | I tried one of those got rid of it after about an hour of use |
| 00:01.50 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena: you may have both. check the new drive, if it is ok, install stretch and then make a dist-upgrade. even if it breaks you still have your current system untouched. |
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| 00:03.11 | rant | you should've seen the dist upgrades through changes in devfs, hal, udev.. etc |
| 00:03.18 | rant | those were days to fear the dist-upgrade |
| 00:03.49 | m0rd3cai | rant yea my issue is it reverts to the original window opened and will not open a second window. I have to do that from menu. It looks like there really arent any settings to change either with it. ugh. works fine except that one annoyance |
| 00:03.56 | rant | jessie->stretch, stretch->buster, those all went fine for me |
| 00:04.10 | Lady_Aleena | EdePopede, so, take the current sd1 out (and maybe sd2 and sd3 too), install stretch, and dist-upgrade stretch? |
| 00:04.40 | rant | m0rd3cai: the whole point of those things is to be and look minimalistic.. they arent meant to handle doing multiple things.. they're just annoying |
| 00:04.58 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena: if you want to be an the safe side as much as possible, yes. actually i had Grub once written to the wrong MBR :> |
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| 00:05.12 | rant | the one I tried was suppose to on long press switch between multiples of the same thing but it wasnt working right and I ditched it |
| 00:05.30 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena: you could take this as an opportunity to play without risking something |
| 00:05.33 | rant | there is a reason MacOSX has things like that, and why people use MacOSX |
| 00:05.55 | rant | a MacOSX user is a special kinda moron.. who likes artsy things and doesnt wanna know crap |
| 00:05.56 | Lady_Aleena | Then put current sd1 in sd2, current sd2 in sd3, and keep current sd3 out since I don't have a 4th hard drive slot. |
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| 00:06.43 | EdePopede | shouldn't matter where you attach them, removing the data cable is enough (and maybe power, just to not waste it) |
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| 00:08.16 | Lady_Aleena | So, I should zip up sd1, sd2, and sd3 and put the zips on sd1 for now. I should have enough room. |
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| 00:09.12 | EdePopede | sd1 is your sys disk? |
| 00:09.40 | Lady_Aleena | Yes, sd2 is my old one. |
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| 00:10.51 | Caralie | dax sucks |
| 00:11.14 | Caralie | kick me here if u dare |
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| 00:11.38 | Lady_Aleena | If I could tear the system stuff out of current sd2, I would. |
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| 00:13.04 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena: do you have some space on some data disk for something you may need right from the start on the new system? |
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| 00:14.36 | Lady_Aleena | I could burn a dvd with /etc and /home |
| 00:15.01 | Lady_Aleena | But that seems like a little overkill. |
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| 00:15.45 | EdePopede | yeah, or this. then you could replace the sys disk with the new one, unplug the data disks and play around and test and see as long as you want or need to feel safe. |
| 00:16.19 | Lady_Aleena | I only use sd2 and sd3 as a "backup" right now. |
| 00:17.30 | EdePopede | i think that's a reason why i refused to put my system to a TB disk and still use my old 80 GB (with root even having only 14 GB) |
| 00:17.48 | EdePopede | a lazy full backup is absolutely no problem |
| 00:18.12 | Lady_Aleena | I have 2 ~500GB drives and a ~150GB drive right now. |
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| 00:20.17 | Lady_Aleena | So, it doesn't matter if I do a dist-upgrade on my current drive or a fresh install of stretch on a new drive. I should just do it already. |
| 00:21.02 | EdePopede | can't tell you, never made a dist-upgrade, at least not during the last years ;) |
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| 00:21.30 | Lady_Aleena | EdePopede, really? You just do fresh installs? |
| 00:22.16 | EdePopede | but since i like a clean system and going to a new one is like moving away, i do what people usually do in real life in such situations: i clean up my messy $HOME ;) |
| 00:23.17 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena: i even zeroed the whole disk. system stays completely on that 80GB (maybe i'll change this for buster), the data disks go into /media |
| 00:23.18 | Lady_Aleena | I'd love to do that, but I don't know what is critical to keep things working the way I want. |
| 00:24.33 | Lady_Aleena | My $HOME is so messy, it would probably make some cry. |
| 00:25.02 | EdePopede | if you want to then you could examine your system. driver stuff, the programs you use, the desktop... |
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| 00:26.04 | EdePopede | my $HOME always looks better after install and then i build it up as needed and depending on how willing i am to invest time into that task |
| 00:26.22 | EdePopede | and usually some things change over the experience i had with the last incarnation |
| 00:26.43 | Lady_Aleena | I wish EVERYTHING would dump their configuration files into .config. |
| 00:28.00 | Lady_Aleena | Like why does Firefox have its configs in .mozilla instead of .config/mozilla? |
| 00:28.41 | EdePopede | maybe because it is pre-xdg. and browsers always were different |
| 00:29.04 | EdePopede | there was also a request with bash, but i don't think it will ever happen |
| 00:30.12 | EdePopede | and hexchat has *everything* in .config, including logs |
| 00:30.28 | Lady_Aleena | And I have a config for yelp and I NEVER installed yelp. |
| 00:31.15 | Lady_Aleena | Also, .icedove is separate from .mozilla, which is weird as they are both mozilla products. |
| 00:34.02 | Lady_Aleena | Maybe I should make a list of things that I installed, but that includes a lot of command line things that I may not remember and not be able to see from what is in my $HOME configs. |
| 00:36.23 | Lady_Aleena | OH GUH! I would have to redo all my custom keystrokes! *head desks* |
| 00:37.02 | nt80 | is there any option for lsblk or parted to sort the output to display the largest partitions first? any utility may be fine that lists partitions of the system |
| 00:38.18 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena: they are part of your $HOME i suppose? |
| 00:38.37 | jmcnaught | nt80: lsblk --sort=SIZE |
| 00:39.31 | jmcnaught | nt80: oh sorry, you want descending |
| 00:39.52 | EdePopede | lsblk -x SIZE | tac |
| 00:40.06 | nt80 | well it doesn't matter i can solve it , thank you very much |
| 00:40.51 | Lady_Aleena | EdePopede, I don't know where they are stored. And it looks like I didn't use xbindkeys for them. |
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| 00:42.27 | EdePopede | Lady_Aleena, what kind of keystrokes then? doing things inside programs or for window stuff or globals? |
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| 00:45.02 | Lady_Aleena | Things like the caps lock button being my compose key and my back and forward buttons working. |
| 00:45.37 | Lady_Aleena | Though I never did figure out how to get my "Windows" button back so I could assign it to my des' start menus. |
| 00:46.57 | EdePopede | the compose key could also be a gui of your desktop |
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| 00:47.54 | Lady_Aleena | So, I would have to find out where my de stores that kind of thing. |
| 00:48.20 | EdePopede | maybe somewhere in .local/share/$DE |
| 00:48.32 | EdePopede | i still don't get all the places for xfce |
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| 00:48.43 | Lady_Aleena | You don't think it would be in $HOME/.kde? |
| 00:49.07 | EdePopede | ah, kde doesn't use the xdg dir? |
| 00:49.45 | Lady_Aleena | Let me spelunk. |
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| 00:50.09 | EdePopede | that's for xfce > https://i.stack.imgur.com/DHuQG.png |
| 00:50.43 | EdePopede | 19 different options for the compose key |
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| 00:55.26 | Lady_Aleena | I have no idea where the compose key was set. |
| 00:56.28 | EdePopede | nothing in KDE's keyboard settings, or maybe something wm related? |
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| 01:00.27 | Lady_Aleena | I'll keep looking. |
| 01:02.14 | Lady_Aleena | Well, I finally found it in the system settings, I just don't know what file it is in. |
| 01:02.31 | Lady_Aleena | And I don't know if kde configs for my current kde will work in the new kde. |
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| 01:11.06 | EdePopede | you could write down where the changes are made, and then repeat them manually. takes longer, but at least you'd have control over the changes you make from the default |
| 01:13.21 | Lady_Aleena | And maybe after this upgrade finally sit down with xfce and see how it does things. |
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| 01:13.38 | Lady_Aleena | I installed it but never use it. |
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| 01:13.52 | Lady_Aleena | s/use/used/; |
| 01:13.57 | Lady_Aleena | Forgive me, I'm sick. |
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| 02:12.47 | Neobenedict | hi please can someone help |
| 02:12.57 | Neobenedict | Waiting for vmbr0 to get ready (MAXWAIT is 2 seconds). |
| 02:12.57 | Neobenedict | Not enough information: "dev" argument is required. |
| 02:12.57 | Neobenedict | ifup: failed to bring up vmbr0 |
| 02:13.19 | Neobenedict | my interfaces: https://0bin.net/paste/c6hUxK8mLKSJyiOj#mb0UJnWCXpl2+Fte7CUpatjiKuMOzbGCwTncx6RtlMk |
| 02:13.22 | hassoon_ | wht is that |
| 02:13.44 | Neobenedict | this happens upon ifup vmbr0 |
| 02:13.47 | Neobenedict | other interfaces work fine |
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| 02:16.35 | Neobenedict | oh look |
| 02:16.39 | Neobenedict | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673043 |
| 02:16.40 | Neobenedict | it's a bug |
| 02:16.40 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/673043 in ifupdown (closed): «new ifupdown does not understand comments in interfaces, breaking existing setups»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2012-05-15; last modified: 2012-06-13. |
| 02:16.47 | Neobenedict | from 2012 |
| 02:16.49 | Neobenedict | still unpatched |
| 02:16.49 | Neobenedict | nice |
| 02:23.16 | jmcnaught | Neobenedict: comments are fine in interfaces, it's comments that start in the middle of the line that don't work |
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| 02:27.06 | annadane_ | in my experience "unpatched" bugs in debian going back years aren't unpatched as such but there's usually some condition that prevents the bug report from being closed |
| 02:27.28 | annadane_ | like, they're aware of it and it's probably been fixed somewhere but the bug report remains open because it affects one niche case |
| 02:27.32 | annadane_ | i don't know for sure though |
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| 02:28.19 | annadane | that judd factoid also says (closed) |
| 02:28.23 | Neobenedict | in this case people are claiming a clearly undocumented "feature" |
| 02:28.34 | Neobenedict | that definitely is not a bug because we can't be bothered |
| 02:28.49 | jmcnaught | Neobenedict: it's documented in interfaces(5) under the FILE FORMAT section |
| 02:29.09 | annadane | the last post does list solutions |
| 02:29.16 | Neobenedict | >Note that end-of-line comments are NOT supported, comments must be on a line of their own. |
| 02:29.17 | Neobenedict | but why |
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| 02:29.49 | Neobenedict | i still consider the error message it's giving completely useless to the point of being bugged |
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| 02:30.00 | magic_ninja | Sveta, in the kde channel they said that setting should do it for the wifi app |
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| 02:31.55 | dvs | 114 bugs! |
| 02:32.56 | annadane | that all being said a lot of the debian website is probably still deep magic and could do with an overhaul at some point |
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| 02:37.47 | Neobenedict | anyone know how to give a tap adapter a persistent mac address |
| 02:37.52 | Neobenedict | proxmox creates/removes tap100i0 whenever the vm reboots |
| 02:37.54 | Neobenedict | giving it a new mac |
| 02:37.58 | Neobenedict | which windows doesnt like |
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| 02:55.57 | Neobenedict | ok i can use /etc/systemd/network/.link |
| 02:56.06 | Neobenedict | is it possible to put multiple link matches in one file |
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| 03:15.09 | somiaj | Neobenedict: you might want to ask in a proxmox channel as well. |
| 03:15.18 | Neobenedict | i did |
| 03:15.25 | Neobenedict | its not the tap |
| 03:15.27 | Neobenedict | its vmbr0 |
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| 04:34.37 | ov3rmind | May 29 01:13:06 horus ircd-hybrid[4038]: Starting Hybrid 8 IRC Server: ircd-hybrid. |
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| 04:35.21 | ov3rmind | May 29 01:13:07 horus kernel: [853093.434226] ircd-hybrid[4045]: segfault at 4 ip 00007fe2144445f0 sp 00007ffe48d08b88 error 4 in libgmp.so.10.3.2[7fe21442b000+5e000] |
| 04:35.39 | ov3rmind | ? any help! |
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| 04:56.36 | ov3rmind | i am using debian unstable and after an apt default install of ircd-hybrid i had it, May 29 01:13:07 horus kernel: [853093.434226] ircd-hybrid[4045]: segfault at 4 ip 00007fe2144445f0 sp 00007ffe48d08b88 error 4 in libgmp.so.10.3.2[7fe21442b000+5e000] |
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| 05:00.09 | jimm | how do you reinstall a package that things depend on, and completely replace their conffiles? |
| 05:00.35 | jmcnaught | !confnew |
| 05:00.35 | dpkg | [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>. |
| 05:01.03 | jimm | thanks |
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| 05:02.35 | ov3rmind | is an recent setup any kind of help? |
| 05:02.43 | jimm | jmcnaught, they say that they don't understand the comtination of switches |
| 05:02.47 | ov3rmind | May 29 01:13:07 horus kernel: [853093.434226] ircd-hybrid[4045]: segfault at 4 ip 00007fe2144445f0 sp 00007ffe48d08b88 error 4 in libgmp.so.10.3.2[7fe21442b000+5e000] |
| 05:03.17 | ov3rmind | the box are up to date and sync |
| 05:03.24 | jmcnaught | ov3rmind: unstable support is on irc.oftc.net in #debian-next |
| 05:03.43 | jimm | found the problem, you need "install" before "--reinstall" |
| 05:04.00 | jimm | you may wish to edit the factoid |
| 05:04.43 | jmcnaught | the factoid already says "â¦--reinstall installâ¦" for the apt-get example |
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| 05:05.15 | jimm | oh, copied it wrong |
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| 05:06.36 | jmcnaught | !etckeeper |
| 05:06.36 | dpkg | etckeeper is a collection of tools to let /etc be stored in a git, mercurial, bazaar or darcs repository. This lets you use git to review or revert changes that were made to /etc. Or even push the repository elsewhere for backups or cherry-picking configuration changes. https://etckeeper.branchable.com |
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| 05:13.09 | ov3rmind | any can invite me to #debian-next on freenode? |
| 05:13.47 | jmcnaught | ov3rmind: that channel isn't on freenode, it's on irc.oftc.net |
| 05:14.15 | ov3rmind | ok |
| 05:14.25 | ov3rmind | very thanks |
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| 05:17.41 | jimm | and you don't need an invite for that |
| 05:18.13 | ov3rmind | ok |
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| 06:33.26 | nindustries | Hi, I would like to write a script that creates wireguard users and auto rate-limits them on demand. Does tc always need root? |
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| 06:35.06 | apollo13 | unless you configures sudoers properly, yeah |
| 06:35.43 | apollo13 | at least it would make sense given that you are doing something in the kernel :D |
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| 06:42.07 | nindustries | perhaps I can suid/sudo_nopasswd a script that calls tc |
| 06:42.12 | nindustries | to limit the attack surface |
| 06:42.31 | apollo13 | you cannot suid scripts afaik |
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| 07:07.11 | centrix | I need to test something on 8.7 version, but cannot install a package for "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found." |
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| 07:07.51 | centrix | There are NO lists in "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" nor is there anything extra in the default. |
| 07:08.05 | at0m | centrix: apt install apt-transport-https |
| 07:08.21 | at0m | centrix: but don't use https in sources.list just yet |
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| 07:08.51 | centrix | at0m, "deb http://linux.siemens.de/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free" |
| 07:09.06 | centrix | at0m, "deb http://linux.siemens.de/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free" |
| 07:09.10 | centrix | Nothing else. |
| 07:09.30 | at0m | centrix: hmm that's funny. maybe they re-route you to https ? would be weird. |
| 07:09.39 | at0m | redirect* |
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| 07:10.23 | centrix | at0m, I would guess so. Can you, please point me to a place where I can download the package directly? |
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| 07:11.00 | at0m | centrix: you could browse the repo^^ manually. (i don't have a browser here at hand either:/ ) |
| 07:11.07 | centrix | I found: "https://packages.debian.org/jessie/apt-transport-https" |
| 07:11.46 | centrix | That is SSL "powered" as well. |
| 07:12.45 | at0m | i don't understand how with http:// in sources.list you would run into such problem |
| 07:12.53 | at0m | maybe someone else cn coin in on that |
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| 07:14.52 | centrix | at0m, pardon me for basic stuff, but I am not a debian guy. It looks like someone updated the list with a corporate link instead of the public. |
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| 07:17.54 | at0m | centrix: can you "apt update"? if sources.list has changed from last time, apt doesn't know until "apt update" has been run |
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| 07:18.48 | at0m | centrix: "apt update" updates the cache with packages from repo's in /etc/apt/sources.list and .d/ |
| 07:19.17 | at0m | .. without changing any installed packages |
| 07:19.29 | centrix | at0m, Nope: E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. |
| 07:19.37 | centrix | N: Is the package apt-transport-https installed? |
| 07:19.50 | centrix | "deb http://linux.siemens.de/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
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| 07:20.38 | centrix | Someone swapped the public URL with the corporate related and it is most probably NOT actual now. |
| 07:21.45 | centrix | at0m, The repository is simply NOT available or redirects to a https protocol based site. |
| 07:21.53 | at0m | centrix: maybe there's a setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf or .d/ that enforced https? i'm a bit lost here. or set to default debian repo for now |
| 07:22.02 | at0m | !sources.list |
| 07:22.02 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 07:22.12 | centrix | at0m, Let me check. |
| 07:22.31 | tomreyn | linux.siemens.de does not resolve on the internet. you must be on some company VPN. |
| 07:23.11 | at0m | tomreyn: yea bunch of datacenters like digital ocean do that too. saves them internet traffic |
| 07:23.20 | centrix | tomreyn, That is a corporate related address = internal. |
| 07:23.38 | tomreyn | right, just saying we can't help you test |
| 07:23.47 | centrix | No problem :) Thanks. |
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| 07:24.15 | centrix | I could not find atp.conf anywhere in /etc! |
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| 07:24.44 | at0m | centrix: it would be /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 07:24.53 | tomreyn | you mean /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ? |
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| 07:26.38 | centrix | "find /etc -type f -name apt.conf" = nothing found |
| 07:27.07 | centrix | There are files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d beginning with numbers though. |
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| 07:28.03 | at0m | centrix: ah, look at those |
| 07:28.26 | tomreyn | a file named apt.conf does not exist by default |
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| 07:29.21 | centrix | 70debconf : "DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true";};" |
| 07:29.34 | tomreyn | ...instead, files in apt.conf.d/ are concatenated to create the configuration file. |
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| 07:32.33 | centrix | Yes, but there's nothing like a URL to a repo or something. Just exceptions and "what-to-(not)-do" with specific packages or so. |
| 07:34.03 | tomreyn | you should probably be talking to whoever configures those systems and get documentation from them on how to make their apt repositories work properly. this won't be a singularity. |
| 07:34.03 | centrix | I suppose I could be able to download packages for Jessie 8.7 and install manually (dpkg?). |
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| 07:34.55 | centrix | tomreyn, the same idea as mine, but the guy is gone and the task is simple - install curl. |
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| 07:35.58 | centrix | That is: ca-certificates curl libcurl3 librtmp1 |
| 07:36.06 | centrix | For Jessie 8.7 |
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| 07:37.46 | tomreyn | you can probably work around this by downloading and manually installing those packages. will you violate policies that way? i don't know. does violating those matter to you? i don't know. |
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| 07:39.51 | tomreyn | a company like siemens will have strict policies about how you may install software and from where, and they'll (at least by default) only allow local apt repositories and maybe ISOs from a network share by default. |
| 07:40.47 | centrix | tomreyn, I know. In this case I would answer their questions. |
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| 07:44.53 | tomreyn | centrix: do you have another debian jessie system there which can download packages via apt? |
| 07:46.33 | tomreyn | if so, and if it's the same architecture, you can sudo apt-get --download-only install apt-transport-https ca-certificates there, then copy the .deb's from /var/lib/apt/ |
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| 07:51.02 | sonnie | hi there, could someone tell me how to install SILO rather than GRUB at the last stage of installer from CDROM? |
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| 07:53.57 | jelly | sonnie: which architecture are you installing on? |
| 07:54.15 | sonnie | Fujitsu M10-4, it's a SPARC |
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| 07:55.07 | jelly | then the installer ought to already know the correct boot loader to install |
| 07:56.07 | sonnie | hmm maybe I should rollback to see why it still selected GRUB |
| 07:57.17 | jelly | you can always switch to console at Alt-F2 (or is it Alt-F3), chroot to /target if it's still mounted and install the silo package |
| 07:57.58 | jelly | perhaps there's someone alive at |
| 07:58.00 | jelly | !sparc |
| 07:58.01 | dpkg | SPARC is the CPU architecture used in Sun Microsystem's proprietary hardware (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC). To install Debian, ask me about <install guide> and see http://wiki.debian.org/PortsSparc ; the <sparc32> port has been retired and the sparc64 port has been removed from <testing> (bug #745938). For help with Debian on SPARC, join #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 07:58.25 | sonnie | many thanks |
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| 07:59.45 | jelly | sonnie: you'll need to have a NickServ account on oftc and your irc client to have identified, to join #debian-sparc |
| 08:00.00 | sonnie | okay |
| 08:00.23 | strk | "Our system has detected that this message does not meet IPv6 sending guidelines regarding PTR records and authentication." <-- anyone familiar with this problem ? It is something Google MX sends back to SMTP (postfix) |
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| 08:01.09 | jelly | strk: make sure your outgoing mail server has FCrDNS |
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| 08:01.51 | jelly | or avoid sending to google over ipv6 |
| 08:02.01 | strk | which domain ? the one in the "sender" ? or which mail header ? |
| 08:03.09 | jelly | that probably does not matter. |
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| 08:03.54 | strk | what do you mean doesn't matter, must matter, or which name does google want to have FCrDNS on ? |
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| 08:06.05 | jelly | strk: make sure PTR of IP used to connect to google, AAAA matching that PTR, and HELO/EHLO your outgoing server uses, all match. |
| 08:06.38 | jelly | it does not matter which name in particular the server uses, it does not matter that it matches sender or any headers. |
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| 08:10.01 | jelly | and even then your mail's probably going to end up in Spam folder of gmail recipients by default |
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| 08:16.54 | GiantMidget | hey guys, so i have a slightly autistic question - how would one map a destination ip to another ip? for instance if a shell script is sending data to 10.0.0.2/16 I want it to actually be sent to 10.1.0.2/16 |
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| 08:17.51 | rant | with a netfilter rule I would imagine.. but that sounds rather dumb to not just change the script |
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| 08:18.30 | GiantMidget | dont worry about it |
| 08:18.36 | GiantMidget | thank you ill look into that |
| 08:18.38 | rant | but you're an oxymoron so.. :D |
| 08:18.42 | GiantMidget | :P |
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| 08:24.28 | strk | jelly: |
| 08:24.55 | nonedead | Question, I have been banging my head aganst a wall for the last hour. I knew how to have multiple ip addresses on one interface when it was eth0, now I have no idea how to do so |
| 08:25.34 | strk | I've troubles understanding PTR record: host -t ptr <reverse-ip>.in-addr.arpa returns multiple names (not a single one) and I don't have a PTR record set on my <domain> zone. The IP provider lets me define a "Reverse" name, which I did set, but that name is NOT returned by `host` |
| 08:25.51 | strk | (from the in-addr.arpa lookup) |
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| 08:28.00 | nonedead | Rather how do I bind multiple ip addresses to one interface with the new network naming format' |
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| 08:31.12 | Synaptic | hello to all |
| 08:31.29 | strk | nonedead: ifconfig eth0:1 <ip1>; ifconfig eth0:2 <ip2> # ? |
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| 08:33.50 | BCMM | nonedead: do you just mean the new interface name format? |
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| 08:34.17 | nonedead | The new interface name format that is not eth0 |
| 08:34.18 | BCMM | it works just the same as before, except you need to type a long sequence of gibberish instead of eth0 |
| 08:34.53 | nonedead | I can not find a doc with the info needed, the wiki is out of date for it |
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| 08:37.29 | nonedead | @BCMM Do you have the syntax for it? |
| 08:37.52 | BCMM | nonedead: no, because there is no new syntax! |
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| 08:50.22 | nonedead | So enp4s0 would be enp4s0:0 |
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| 11:23.21 | Umori_ | Good morning all, I may have a problem somewhere with my dhcp request. The network interfaces of my computer (wired and wireless) can't get any IP address using DHCP (ipv4 or ipv6). When I set a static IP doing "ip addr add (...)", the link works without a hitch. |
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| 11:24.54 | Umori_ | I am 100% certain it doesn't come from the dhcp server as all the other computers work well and the issue is the same on any other LAN. |
| 11:26.00 | Umori_ | Any hint would be very welcome, I am using Debian 9.9 |
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| 11:30.55 | BCMM | Umori_: have you tried manually running a dhcp client from the command line, and observing the output? |
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| 11:31.34 | BCMM | Umori_: e.g. `dhclient eth0 -v` |
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| 11:33.53 | Umori_ | Yes I did try the dhclient command as well without success. Gonna get the output. |
| 11:35.32 | BCMM | yes, i was suggesting it as a diagnostic measure, not as a fix |
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| 11:43.43 | Umori_ | Well I might make a fool of myself but it seems to work when I restart the networking service. |
| 11:44.06 | Umori_ | Nevertheless, here is the output for the dhclient command : https://pastebin.com/NUviEdwC |
| 11:45.01 | Umori_ | I am used to renew/release the lease with dhclient, that's strange it doesn't work anymore |
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| 11:53.33 | Umori_ | @BCMM after another test, dhcp via wireless definitely doesn't work and I have to restart the networking service after unplugging/replugging the ethernet cable which is not convinient. |
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| 12:06.21 | Umori_ | Ok I found the problem! For some reason a wrong entry was generated in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases. My issue was the same as mentionned here : https://amanica.blogspot.com/2014/09/cant-allocate-interface-tap0lease.html. Thanks @BCMM for suggesting the verbose output. |
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| 13:21.10 | Greyztar | hello ,i use static ip on my box,if i set search mydomain in resolv.conf i am able to use my local domain name,is there a same option i could put in interfaces file? |
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| 13:22.20 | greycat | !override dns |
| 13:22.21 | dpkg | To have dhclient etc not touch /etc/resolv.conf, the best plan is to configure it not to touch that file. See https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf for more details. Note that by ignoring the DHCP-provided DNS servers, you may find that you are unable to use captive portals or surf the web on some network. Beware creating technical debt by doing things like chattr +i |
| 13:24.20 | Greyztar | greycat: thanks! |
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| 14:03.09 | han-solo | hello guys |
| 14:03.26 | han-solo | Which is the recommended guide for packaging .deb? |
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| 14:09.34 | Fox | han-solo: maybe start with https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html |
| 14:10.33 | m92lk | why should i choose to use debian over arch/gentoo/ubuntu? |
| 14:10.45 | themill | !why debian |
| 14:10.45 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
| 14:10.51 | han-solo | Fox: That's what i have been going through currently |
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| 14:12.03 | m92lk | "Mail sent to the mailing lists often gets answers within 15 minutes (or less), for free, and by the people who developed it." for real? |
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| 14:12.15 | glaucom | hi all good morning |
| 14:12.29 | glaucom | i need help to install correct my geforce 740m |
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| 14:14.22 | glaucom | only 59.979 fps |
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| 14:18.58 | han-solo | ,dh_make |
| 14:19.24 | han-solo | i really need to learn the judd triggers' |
| 14:20.24 | jmcnaught | han-solo: http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ you can also /msg judd and dpkg |
| 14:20.53 | han-solo | jmcnaught: Thanks |
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| 16:20.23 | lessless | hi folks! I'm trying to boot Stretch-based distro form DevBoard(https://www.armbian.com/cubietruck/) and screen goes black right after "booting kernel" message |
| 16:20.41 | lessless | I.e. service list is not being shown |
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| 16:20.49 | greycat | !armbian |
| 16:20.49 | dpkg | Armbian is a project that has pre-compiled custom Debian and Ubuntu installer images for <ARM> boards, and a small package repository with kernels, drivers, and utilities which are supported in #armbian. It is not a complete distribution, and uses unmodified Debian or Ubuntu official package repos. kernel/hw/installer/building questions: #armbian. |
| 16:20.56 | lessless | thanks! |
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| 16:22.01 | greycat | looks like that channel's gone or empty or hidden |
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| 16:23.08 | metbsd | is there a way to encapsulate subtitle into a movie |
| 16:23.11 | metbsd | mkv or rmvb |
| 16:24.08 | SwedeMike | metbsd: https://askubuntu.com/questions/119325/how-can-i-embed-subtitles-into-a-movie-file |
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| 16:24.54 | SwedeMike | metbsd: you can either add it to the mkv file, or you can re-encode and code the subtitles right into the video stream. The first one is preferred as you don't have to re-encode the video |
| 16:25.13 | SwedeMike | metbsd: ie https://superuser.com/questions/609113/how-to-add-and-remove-subtitles-in-an-mkv-file |
| 16:25.35 | rany | metbsd, you might as well try out Handbrake... or maybe it's cli |
| 16:25.51 | rany | at least it doesn't have a too steep of a learning curve for me |
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| 16:28.46 | idlemind | metbsd handbrake does a great job w/this as others have stated. you can either "burn" the subtitles into the video or add them to the container (mkv) as something that can be toggled on and off by the player. |
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| 16:33.42 | dax | greycat: it's hidden. has about 80 people in it |
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| 16:34.38 | greycat | I don't understand why support channels hide themselves. |
| 16:35.18 | indomitable | to avoid questions |
| 16:35.20 | indomitable | derrrp |
| 16:36.12 | dax | it never got ChanServ registered, and the default for newly-created unregistered channels is +ns |
| 16:36.19 | dax | anyways, yeah. it does in fact exist :) |
| 16:36.26 | dax | (whether it's useful, i don't know) |
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