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| 00:44.02 | d3l3k | hi, what packages does 'standard system utilities' installer task have? |
| 00:44.15 | d3l3k | or how could i find them |
| 00:44.26 | ksk | d3l3k: I asked that some days ago... |
| 00:44.32 | ksk | long story short: if you care, do not use it. |
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| 00:45.14 | ksk | If I understood things correctly, you would find the anwser to that question somewhere in the installer code. |
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| 00:47.12 | ruben23 | hi guys i have installed debian but got unsuccessfull intall for mirror any idea how to complete it on the terminal.? |
| 00:47.27 | jmcnaught | d3l3k: https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#A.22standard.22_task it's basically all the packages of priorities standard, required, important |
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| 00:49.22 | jmcnaught | ruben23: you finished the installation, rebooted into the system, but only have terminal at this point? Do you have networking up? |
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| 00:52.54 | d3l3k | nice to know it, thanks guys :) |
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| 01:05.06 | magic_ninja | Lady_Aleena, you got it! ?? ! |
| 01:05.19 | Lady_Aleena | magic_ninja, got to a gui, yes. |
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| 01:05.33 | magic_ninja | Right on. Time to install those nvidia binary drivers. |
| 01:05.49 | Lady_Aleena | This channel has had a few hours rest from my problems. |
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| 01:06.47 | Lady_Aleena | And I am about to go eat dinner and watch the last 2 episodes of Good Omens. |
| 01:07.18 | magic_ninja | It was a disappointing show Lady_Aleena |
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| 01:10.31 | Lady_Aleena | I'm not disappointed so far, but David Tennat is just so good looking in it. |
| 01:10.44 | Lady_Aleena | But, dinner is almost done, so I have to go. |
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| 01:35.41 | karlpinc | ?Lady_ |
| 01:35.46 | karlpinc | oops |
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| 01:43.55 | horribleprogram | Listen to me |
| 01:43.58 | horribleprogram | everyone has it wrong |
| 01:44.37 | horribleprogram | When you say stuff like "root can create device files" what you actually mean is "a process with the effective UID of 0 can create device files" |
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| 01:50.04 | ksk | horribleprogram: okay. |
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| 02:06.46 | horribleprogram | ksk: you just pretend you're not wow'd by that but you probably tweeted it |
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| 02:25.43 | ozfalcon | Just updated my Debian (Buster) box and now my xfce background is missing. I get black wallpaper which turns grey when a window is moved around on it. Any Ideas How to fix this? |
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| 02:27.02 | dvs | 105 bugs! |
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| 02:28.56 | ozfalcon | I'm guessing that was 104 last time. |
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| 02:29.10 | dvs | 122 |
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| 02:31.51 | ozfalcon | Looks like dbus and systemd were updated and a few others. I don't see how that borked my xfce wallpaper..........? |
| 02:32.21 | ozfalcon | Oh and udev was updated as well. |
| 02:32.53 | ozfalcon | I can't seem to display ANY wallpaper now. |
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| 02:36.11 | Unit193 | ozfalcon: I presume you have desktop icons/xfdesktop is still running? |
| 02:37.28 | ozfalcon | Ah, Looks like xfdesktop wasn't running. |
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| 02:38.09 | horribleprogram | ozfalcon: I read somewhere like 5 months ago that systemd and xfce don't work well together |
| 02:38.55 | ozfalcon | Should I have xfdesktop in my Application Autostart? |
| 02:39.01 | ozfalcon | Because it's not there. |
| 02:40.06 | ozfalcon | horribleprogram, That's a shame, Cause I prefer XFCE to bling desktops |
| 02:40.47 | Unit193 | Err, how does systemd not work well with Xfce, horribleprogram? |
| 02:41.14 | Unit193 | ozfalcon: xfce4-session should be starting it, unless you're using a saved session where it wasn't running. |
| 02:42.30 | ozfalcon | I have added it to Session & Startup/Application Autostart anyway. |
| 02:42.52 | horribleprogram | Unit193: how the fuck am I supposed to know, afaik systemd just runs unit files and shit in /lib/systemd/system/ |
| 02:43.09 | Unit193 | horribleprogram: Figured I'd ask since you made the claim. :) |
| 02:43.40 | ozfalcon | Back in a moment. Logout & Login to check all is well. |
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| 02:45.13 | ozfalcon | Seems ok now. |
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| 02:45.58 | ozfalcon | Opps. |
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| 04:11.18 | karlpinc | is using xfce on stretch with systemd just fine |
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| 04:11.48 | mvaenskae | just installed debian buster on my destop and due to my setup i need to do some steps manually; i am booted into stretch and chrooted into the buster install and want to now generate my initramfs but even explicitly giving it the boot-dir update-initramfs doesn't find anything and returns immediately |
| 04:11.56 | mvaenskae | any idea what could cause this behaviour? |
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| 04:13.18 | mvaenskae | this is the list of chroot-commands i follow to do the chroot https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Chroot#Configuration |
| 04:13.38 | karlpinc | mvaenskae: Do you have a separate boot partition? Is it mounted in the chroot? |
| 04:13.58 | mvaenskae | separate boot partition, it is mounted as i can ls it |
| 04:15.04 | mvaenskae | the kernel is also "already" available but i missed out on a config setting related to the rootfs and other boot-time configs (i use refind) |
| 04:15.05 | karlpinc | mvaenskae: The easy answer is to not worry about it and instead boot your install media in rescue mode. From there you should be able to rebuild your initramfs (There may even be a menu option for that. If not, then you can get a shell.) |
| 04:16.00 | mvaenskae | had bad experiences with any rescue media apart from sysreccd (due to luks and lvm) |
| 04:16.35 | mvaenskae | and this command should work -- something must be still missing that update-initramfs wants/requires |
| 04:16.39 | karlpinc | I've used the installer's rescue mode (on stretch) with luks and lvm. |
| 04:17.24 | karlpinc | !errors |
| 04:17.24 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
| 04:18.31 | Primer | mvaenskae: EFI? If so, is /boot/efi mounted in the chroot too? |
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| 04:19.36 | Primer | oh, initramfs, my bad |
| 04:19.57 | mvaenskae | it should, i can peruse the dir from my initramfs |
| 04:20.00 | mvaenskae | eh chroot |
| 04:20.55 | mvaenskae | in the host the same command "update-initramfs -utb /boot/efi/EFI/$deb_release" works |
| 04:21.38 | mvaenskae | i have a stretch still running but it's in bad shape due to hacking with cuda so a fresh install is just the better approach |
| 04:21.47 | Primer | shouldn't you specify the kernel name? |
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| 04:22.27 | Primer | something with $(uname -r) in the command line |
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| 04:22.32 | Primer | sec, let me find what I used recently |
| 04:22.56 | mvaenskae | well, it picks the latest that way |
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| 04:23.33 | Primer | update-initramfs -t -u -k all |
| 04:23.41 | bcx | Seems like Linux network namespaces (netns) do not allow listening sockets, for example the following command fails in a netns: nc -l 127.0.0.1 2002 & nc 127.0.0.1 2002 <<<"foo" |
| 04:23.42 | bcx | in the root netns it correclty shows "foo", not in a netns created by: sudo ip netns add mynetns ; sudo ip netns exec mynetns bash |
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| 04:24.31 | mvaenskae | Primer: similar command, -k all shouldn't matter for a single kernel |
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| 04:25.10 | mvaenskae | and using -v it shows me not finding any available kernels... that's unfortunate and i would think a debian stretch should make a valid "rescue" media |
| 04:25.34 | Primer | but it's in a chroot. Maybe you didn't install one? |
| 04:25.43 | Primer | And is stretch sharing the same /boot as buster? |
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| 04:26.18 | Primer | mvaenskae: I'm pondering a move to buster from stretch as well, but add zfs root to the mix |
| 04:26.24 | Primer | Hence my curiosity |
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| 04:27.09 | mvaenskae | duh, i must have made a typo in my chroot... |
| 04:27.21 | Primer | let me guess, no /dev |
| 04:28.09 | mvaenskae | no, the rbind of /tmp was done with the host's /sys... |
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| 04:30.27 | Primer | doh |
| 04:30.52 | Primer | I never bind /tmp. No need, really. |
| 04:31.19 | mvaenskae | i follow the gentoo chroot commands :) they should know what's relevant and not |
| 04:31.43 | Primer | The debian guides usually do /dev, /proc, and /sys |
| 04:32.01 | Primer | I thought this was #debian, but... |
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| 04:32.34 | Primer | So I guess it's typical over zealousness on the part of gentoo |
| 04:32.53 | Primer | unrolls some loops |
| 04:33.39 | Primer | and before we break out the flame throwers, I used gentoo for years...over a decade ago |
| 04:34.16 | mvaenskae | i am a long time gentoo user and fare quite well with debian for projects related to studies or where i need a common system :) |
| 04:34.36 | Primer | I leared a considerable deal about Linux from using gentoo, so not really knocking it |
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| 04:40.22 | mvaenskae | nope, reboot and correct chroot still shows nothing... very puzzling |
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| 05:11.46 | ruben23 | hi guys i have install debian 8 but when i login by ssh terminal with root account i cant login by ssh, i can only login by username, but when i go directly with the server console i can login with root - any idea guys.? |
| 05:13.34 | jmcnaught | ruben23: by default root login with password is disabled. You can use "su -l" to become root. |
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| 05:15.04 | jmcnaught | ruben23: you can also use key based authentication, with ssh that's a good idea anyways |
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| 05:42.51 | mvaenskae | seems like the installer can't live without trying to force grub upon me -- it fails on the installer stage and the first thing it wants to do now when i try to delete it is "installing for x86_64-efi"... which fails in the chrooted system as apparently devices are not initialized in the udev-db after waiting for 10s... |
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| 05:52.21 | ruben23 | guys also this command not found ---- ifconfig -a |
| 05:52.35 | ruben23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:59.12 | hawken | ruben23: it's ip link and ip addr these days :) you can still install ifconfig but it's not default afaik |
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| 07:27.16 | jelly | linuxthefish: just making it sure |
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| 08:10.55 | M6HZ | Hello, I encounter an issue when I try to install: docker-ce: I get this error message: https://pastebin.com/cMjAhzhW |
| 08:11.15 | M6HZ | I'm using Debian stretch and I've added the docker repository in the apt configuration. |
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| 08:11.28 | M6HZ | journalctl is not really verbose about the problem: Jun 05 04:08:31 debian systemd[1]: docker.service: Start request repeated too quickly. |
| 08:11.36 | M6HZ | and just after: Failed to start Docker Application Container Engine. |
| 08:11.50 | M6HZ | Do you have any idea of what I am doing wrong? |
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| 08:20.14 | M6HZ | Hello rant |
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| 08:21.20 | Cogitri | M6HZ: Try `systemctl status docker` to see what's actually going wrong |
| 08:23.34 | M6HZ | Cogitri: Already done: https://pastebin.com/jjkYvPYd |
| 08:23.45 | M6HZ | Cogitri: it is not really verbose too. |
| 08:24.19 | Cogitri | That's pretty trashy indeed. Maybe `journalctl -r` is more useful |
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| 08:32.45 | M6HZ | Cogitri: Here is the full output: https://pastebin.com/n0J22J8q |
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| 08:33.50 | M6HZ | Cogitri: There is something weird written there: Jun 05 04:26:54 debian dockerd[12658]: time="2019-06-05T04:26:54.890163706-04:00" level=warning msg="Running modprobe bridge br_netfilter': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)\ninsmod /lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/net/llc/llc.ko \ninsmod /lib/modules/4.9.0-8-amd64/kernel/net/llc/llc.ko \n, error: exit status 1" |
| 08:34.58 | Cogitri | Huh, that's odd indeed |
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| 08:37.42 | Cogitri | https://github.com/docker/for-linux/issues/598 |
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| 08:40.59 | Cogitri | Also, does someone happen to know Debian cross a bit? I'm currently trying to use Debian's docker container to crosscompile my app in CI. It needs to run `glib-compile-resources` during build, but the build fails with `/usr/bin/glib-compile-resources: 1: /usr/bin/glib-compile-resources: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")` and I'm not exactly sure what to make of that |
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| 08:51.48 | M6HZ | Cogitri: Thanks, apparently I have to reboot my machine to get it working. |
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| 08:53.45 | Cogitri | Yup, maybe you did a kernel upgrade without restarting after that? |
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| 09:01.37 | untakenstupidnic | i want to ask someone to add my software to the debian repositories, is there a proper place to do it? |
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| 09:05.12 | mrtnt | Today morning I discovered that I have only following repos in my system: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1086335 While "apt update" fixed this issue, than what might have caused this in the first place? I have unattended-upgrades enabled. |
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| 09:07.13 | jelly | mrtnt: running apt-get update or equivalent with only that repo present in config might have done it |
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| 09:22.55 | mrtnt | jelly: I didn't run "apt-get update" manually, but unattended-upgrade should have execute this automatically. And this "https://repos.insights.digitalocean.com/apt/do-agent" repository came from digitalocean-agent.list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. Rest of my repositories are in the /etc/apt/sources.list file. |
| 09:23.35 | jelly | I have no idea how unattended-upgrades work. |
| 09:24.04 | jelly | only commenting on the symptom. |
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| 09:25.21 | mrtnt | jelly: ok, thanks! It indeed looks like the "apt-get update" was ran only using the configuration file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 10:32.04 | BCMM | untakenstupidnic: thanks. found it myself, but it doesn't seem to work the way i expect it to |
| 10:32.23 | BCMM | i don't know what exactly triggers it to detect a file. is it just copying outside the cwd that does it? |
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| 11:41.05 | ninja | !release |
| 11:41.05 | dpkg | Debian 9 "Stretch" was released on 2017-06-17. It is now considered "stable". Ask me about <install debian>, <jessie->stretch> to upgrade from Debian 8 "Jessie" See http://www.debian.org/releases/ or <release history> for the latest (and historical) releases. For updates from the Debian Release Team, see http://release.debian.org/ |
| 11:42.16 | rant | I have a question regarding quotas.. this tutorial on digitalocean says "fairly safe to assume that 1 block equals 1 kilobyte" which I believe is wrong.. if tune2fs says block size 4096, doesnt that mean that blocks in the quota files are 4k each? |
| 11:42.30 | dreamer | !next |
| 11:42.30 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 11:42.33 | dreamer | heh |
| 11:43.26 | ninja | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 11:43.34 | rant | ninja: dreamer: you can /msg the bot or talk to it in #debian-bots |
| 11:43.48 | dreamer | orly |
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| 11:44.02 | rant | rly.. |
| 11:44.16 | ninja | resumed the downlad of chrome browser after some days, and now getting error after chrome is installed. |
| 11:44.38 | ninja | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.47 | ninja | Hashes of expected file: |
| 11:44.49 | ninja | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.50 | rant | you can also lookup factoids on http://ircbots.debian.net/factoids/ |
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| 12:37.29 | malibu | Hi there, I am running a small debian test system. Every morning the 'aide' process starts up and chews CPU cycles. This is backing up my application and causing problems. How do I stop aide from running entirely? |
| 12:37.47 | malibu | I have been killing it so far but it only responds to a kill -9 |
| 12:38.17 | mason | malibu: What is aide? What's running it? |
| 12:38.35 | mason | Ah, intrusion detection. |
| 12:38.41 | malibu | aide is an intrusion detection tool. I didn't install it, I assume it came with the OS |
| 12:39.03 | mason | malibu: That's worrisome if so. Shouldn't likely come with Debian. |
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| 12:43.40 | malibu | Actually you made me think that maybe I did install it at one point |
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| 12:44.08 | malibu | I just removed it. thanks, that helped |
| 12:45.23 | mason | malibu: Well, that's better then. Either way, either it runs something out of cron that you can schedule, or it has a daemon you can configure. Search engines seem to turn up a fair number of hits. |
| 12:45.45 | mason | Ah, sorry, network hiccoughed. That works too. |
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| 12:47.36 | malibu | Not sure if it has a configuration but I don't want to deal with that right now |
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| 12:49.14 | fredl-pc | hey folks |
| 12:50.07 | fredl-pc | I'm using rsyslog to do centralized logging and used a '$template/RemoteLogs,"/var/log/%HOSTNAME%/%PROGRAMNAME%.log.... |
| 12:50.34 | fredl-pc | This works great, except with the syslog that haproxy does as it seems to somehow log in a different format |
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| 12:51.03 | fredl-pc | so the %HOSTNAME% and %PROGRAMNAME% are not set properly by rsyslog |
| 12:51.04 | anddam | howdy, at what step of system setup is /etc/apt/sources.list created? |
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| 12:51.40 | anddam | case in point I altered my sources.list and was wondering if there is a package I can reconfigure in order to get back the default one |
| 12:52.02 | anddam | this is just a curiosity and not a "rescue my system" mission, I backed the file up before editing it |
| 12:52.02 | ksk | !tell anddam about sources.list |
| 12:52.10 | anddam | thanks |
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| 12:52.40 | ksk | anddam: eh, then no, I don't think what you ask for is possible. AFAIK it gets created by the installer, based on $release, and is not maintained by any package. |
| 12:52.49 | anddam | ksk: but does the file come with the "bootstrap" file installation? |
| 12:52.54 | anddam | ah ok |
| 12:53.04 | ksk | mhm yeah it would. good remark.. |
| 12:53.16 | ksk | do a "dpkg -S $filename" to ask dpkg if it knows a file. |
| 12:53.31 | anddam | ksk: so no way to repeat that particular step in setup |
| 12:53.51 | anddam | I did that already, and it is not know |
| 12:53.56 | anddam | checked on PDO as well |
| 12:54.02 | ksk | mhhm, dpkg says it does not know it. It will be created by debootstrap though.. |
| 12:54.28 | anddam | I figured it was created in some non-APT-package-related step |
| 12:54.35 | anddam | thanks for the info |
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| 13:01.40 | echoSMILE | after install debian from netinst, how to configure the network interface? |
| 13:02.37 | greycat | 1) install any needed firmware; 2) read "man interfaces"; 3) edit /etc/network/interfaces; 4) reboot, or play around with ifup and ifdown quite a lot. |
| 13:02.37 | dvs | echoSMILE, edit your /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 13:07.07 | LtL | echoSMILE: check for possibles missing firmware first. sudo dmesg |grep -i firmware |
| 13:08.00 | LtL | s/possibles/possible |
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| 13:08.46 | echoSMILE | LtL I got some lines |
| 13:09.16 | greycat | Read them, and act appropriately. |
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| 13:10.24 | zenpac | What is the best way to install Falkon on Stable? |
| 13:10.38 | hawken | echoSMILE: I think this may help https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 13:10.38 | dvs | who? |
| 13:10.45 | LtL | echoSMILE: is your network adapter pci or usb? give me the hex id of the networking hardware, 'lspci -nn' |
| 13:10.53 | diogenes_ | zenpac, on stable what? |
| 13:11.02 | greycat | clearly "stable Debian" |
| 13:11.23 | Neobenedict | can someone please help i am so frustrated |
| 13:11.26 | anddam | bye |
| 13:11.26 | greycat | what's unclear to me is what "Falkon" is |
| 13:11.29 | Neobenedict | -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp -d 94.130.xx.xx -i enp1s0 --dport 13389 -j DNAT --to-dest 10.0.0.10 |
| 13:11.29 | echoSMILE | LtL 10ec:8168 ? |
| 13:11.31 | hawken | apparently there is a web browser called falkon |
| 13:11.32 | Neobenedict | this rule does not work |
| 13:11.33 | Neobenedict | yet |
| 13:11.34 | zenpac | I see hints of "snap" and flatpak at their site. |
| 13:11.35 | hawken | https://www.falkon.org/about/ |
| 13:11.39 | diogenes_ | greycat, sorry i thought i wan in a different channel lol. |
| 13:11.40 | xormor | zenpac, https://snapcraft.io/falkon |
| 13:11.41 | Neobenedict | -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d 94.130.xxx.xxx -i enp1s0 --dport 49995 -j DNAT --to-dest 10.0.0.2:49995 |
| 13:11.42 | Neobenedict | this one does |
| 13:11.44 | xormor | zenpac, Google it |
| 13:11.45 | Neobenedict | ???????? |
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| 13:11.59 | xormor | zenpac, https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+best+way+to+install+falkon+on+debian+stable&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-e |
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| 13:12.06 | LtL | ,pciid 10ec:8168 |
| 13:12.07 | judd | [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
| 13:12.17 | hawken | missed opportunity to use lmgtfy |
| 13:12.31 | diogenes_ | zenpac, your options are to use either snap or flatpak or compil or i can share my binary that i made for Falkon. |
| 13:13.33 | LtL | echoSMILE: apt install firmware-realtek |
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| 13:13.45 | greycat | ,v falkon |
| 13:13.46 | judd | Package: falkon on amd64 -- buster: 3.0.0-3; sid: 3.0.0-3 |
| 13:13.56 | diogenes_ | yep only on buster. |
| 13:14.10 | diogenes_ | on stretch you got no other choice. |
| 13:14.22 | echoSMILE | LtL unable to locate package firmware-realtek |
| 13:14.34 | hawken | it's in contrib probably..? |
| 13:14.45 | greycat | no, judd would have said if there were a backport |
| 13:14.53 | greycat | ,checkbackport falkon |
| 13:14.55 | judd | Backporting package falkon in sid→stretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch. |
| 13:15.03 | greycat | apparently judd thinks it's possible to BUILD one, though |
| 13:15.04 | dvs | echoSMILE, you need non-free sources |
| 13:15.07 | hawken | no it's non-free |
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| 13:15.31 | greycat | hawken: oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were talking to echoSMILE. |
| 13:15.53 | echoSMILE | dvs but without network how do I ge that? |
| 13:15.54 | hawken | it's ok I feel like I'm just making noise. go ahead, I'll go somewhere else for now :) |
| 13:16.14 | LtL | echoSMILE: edit /etc/apt/sources.list ... append non-free to the END of each line, add contrib if you wish, save. run apt update then install again. |
| 13:16.22 | dvs | echoSMILE, manually, from another computer |
| 13:16.23 | hawken | echoSMILE: if it was me, probably find the deb file and put it on a usb drive |
| 13:16.25 | greycat | hawken: no, you're fine. It's just the occasional confusion when there are simultaneous help sessions. |
| 13:16.45 | hawken | ah. alright :) |
| 13:16.51 | dvs | echoSMILE, or use the non-free ISO to do the install |
| 13:18.08 | echoSMILE | LtL appedn non-free to the end of _each lne_ ? |
| 13:18.08 | LtL | oh, silly me, echoSMILE you need the .deb file from another device as they said. |
| 13:18.11 | zenpac | diogenes_: between snap and flatpak, which do you prefer in general? I typcially don't stray far outside of apt. |
| 13:18.16 | echoSMILE | ok |
| 13:18.42 | LtL | echoSMILE: eventually you'll want to do what i first said. |
| 13:18.44 | hawken | is it the stable release? http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_20161130-5_all.deb |
| 13:19.15 | echoSMILE | hawken yes, stable release |
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| 13:19.38 | echoSMILE | LtL but for all lines at etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 13:20.06 | LtL | echoSMILE: and yes each line, after you get that file installed and you have internet. |
| 13:20.09 | dvs | !stretech sources.list |
| 13:20.21 | dvs | !stretch sources.list |
| 13:20.22 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 13:21.21 | hawken | echoSMILE: when you get that file on to the target computer, you can run sudo dpkg -i firmware-realtek_20161130-5_all.deb to install |
| 13:21.22 | diogenes_ | zenpac, i'd go with snaps but a better option would be the appimage, but it's not available for the latest Falkon. |
| 13:21.36 | hawken | then LtLs instructions |
| 13:21.46 | greycat | the best option would be to backport falkon using /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 13:22.04 | greycat | that is, if judd can be believed that such a thing is possible |
| 13:22.10 | echoSMILE | hawken firmware-realtek_20161130-5_all.deb or firmware-realtek_20190502-1_all.deb ? |
| 13:22.30 | diogenes_ | greycat, it needs at least Qt 5.10. |
| 13:22.33 | greycat | echoSMILE: the 2016 one for stretch |
| 13:22.59 | hawken | 5 |
| 13:23.04 | greycat | ,v libqt5-dev |
| 13:23.05 | judd | No package named 'libqt5-dev' was found in amd64. |
| 13:23.10 | greycat | *sigh* |
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| 13:23.33 | greycat | how the hell is there a libqt4-dev but not a libqt5-dev |
| 13:23.36 | LtL | echoSMILE: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-realtek |
| 13:24.40 | greycat | decides he still does not care about qt |
| 13:25.01 | diogenes_ | so does judd |
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| 13:26.11 | hawken | echoSMILE: the newer version is for buster (testing) - if you mix them then you're breaking debian sooo don't do that :) |
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| 13:26.58 | hawken | https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian ;p |
| 13:29.44 | LtL | echoSMILE: from my link, bottom of page, click 'all' choose a mirror, get the file. |
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| 13:30.22 | netriber | Hello, I'm inside a linux vm with qemu I resized the image disk for more 10G and I need to reflect this on the system. |
| 13:31.00 | netriber | I tried using fdisk /dev/sda , it shows a inconsistency of size , I did write to try and solve it but it says fdisk: failed to write disklabel: Invalid argument |
| 13:31.00 | wwilliam | how do i know what is taking space in my debian? |
| 13:31.15 | hawken | cloud-guest-utils is nice for that, with the growpart command. then resize2fs when the partition is larger |
| 13:31.18 | hawken | may need vm reboot |
| 13:31.23 | greycat | wwilliam: df, du |
| 13:31.41 | wwilliam | Thank you. |
| 13:31.59 | hawken | a personal favorite of mine is: du -h | sort -h |
| 13:32.07 | echoSMILE | network working. thanks |
| 13:32.25 | hawken | awesome. don't forget to add non-free to your sources so that the firmware package can be automatically updated :) |
| 13:32.39 | dvs | contrib is also a good idea |
| 13:32.45 | LtL | echoSMILE: dude, that was fast, way to go! |
| 13:32.46 | wwilliam | du -h | sort -h |
| 13:32.48 | wwilliam | sort: invalid option -- h |
| 13:32.49 | wwilliam | Try `sort --help' for more information. |
| 13:32.55 | hawken | oh.. maybe only on buster |
| 13:32.56 | dvs | sort -n? |
| 13:33.08 | greycat | I prefer du -sk * because (a) it shows up in realtime instead of having to wait until the end so it can be sorted; (b) bigger numbers are physically longer, which is easier to eyeball than "200M" vs "10G" and realizing that the first one is smaller even though it's longer |
| 13:33.14 | hawken | sort -h is human readable sort, you can have your nK nM nG and sort treats it correctly |
| 13:33.22 | netriber | hawken: resize2fs isn't working , it's a lvm based disk |
| 13:33.32 | hawken | oh.. then you need lvm instructions |
| 13:33.50 | hawken | resize2fs is useful when the partition is resized, so it is the last step |
| 13:34.06 | greycat | if you're growing, you grow the partition (or LV) first, then the file system second |
| 13:34.10 | greycat | if you're shrinking, it's the other way around |
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| 13:34.42 | netriber | hawken: fdisk /dev/sda says GPT PMBR size mismatch (16777215 != 37748735) will be corrected by w(rite). |
| 13:34.56 | hawken | so is it lvm inside the vm or not |
| 13:34.59 | dvs | GPT with fdisk? |
| 13:35.11 | greycat | post-wheezy fdisk can handle gpt, yes |
| 13:35.25 | netriber | hawken: lvm |
| 13:35.35 | hawken | so you have gpt and lvm? |
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| 13:35.50 | hawken | if sda is a pv, then you don't fdisk it |
| 13:36.12 | greycat | what device does df say the file system is mounted from? |
| 13:36.31 | greycat | (the first column, labeled "Filesystem") |
| 13:36.58 | hawken | netriber: to make it easier to understand, maybe you can show us the output of "pvs" |
| 13:37.13 | netriber | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.14 | hawken | https://www.tecmint.com/extend-and-reduce-lvms-in-linux/ |
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| 13:37.18 | echoSMILE | to install iw(commands) I need any package for it? |
| 13:37.40 | hawken | echoSMILE: wireless-tools or something like that? |
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| 13:37.48 | echoSMILE | yes |
| 13:37.54 | hawken | I think if you do a desktop install with network manager and everything, you'll get this by default |
| 13:37.56 | echoSMILE | probably I mean |
| 13:38.05 | hawken | do you have an end goal like that |
| 13:38.15 | echoSMILE | nop |
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| 13:38.28 | greycat | echoSMILE: by the way, if this is a laptop, starting with the non-free firmware image is a whole lot easier |
| 13:38.41 | echoSMILE | yes is a laptop |
| 13:38.43 | greycat | laptops almost always need non-free firmware for one or more things |
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| 13:39.29 | hawken | if you don't want to mess with network-manager and have more like a server laptop, then you can go ahead and get wireless-tools and wpasupplicant and do your wireless in interfaces. but if it's a regular laptop it's way easier to use networkmanager |
| 13:39.33 | echoSMILE | the wifi card is working, I need now the wireless-tools |
| 13:39.55 | echoSMILE | is a laptop-server |
| 13:40.00 | dvs | ??? |
| 13:40.08 | echoSMILE | laptop to use as a servers |
| 13:40.14 | echoSMILE | server* |
| 13:40.21 | hawken | this is how homelabs start guys |
| 13:40.39 | hawken | and it's going to be stationary, right? |
| 13:40.54 | greycat | well, now that the network is up, everything else should be easy enough |
| 13:41.49 | greycat | (but I have some serious doubts about using a "server" that only has wireless networking, even if it's just a home LAN) |
| 13:41.53 | echoSMILE | greycat +-, I can't connect over wire, need to be with wifi |
| 13:42.02 | hawken | netriber: I think you'll have to extend partition 3, then reboot and then extend the lvm setup. I think if the pv locks the drive then that might be a problem, I'm not that knowledgeable about it |
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| 13:42.50 | dvs | and it's a server? |
| 13:42.54 | dvs | doesn't get it |
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| 13:44.13 | echoSMILE | wifi server :P |
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| 13:44.57 | hawken | echoSMILE: I used to have an interfaces setup for wifi but on my new laptop I just kept network-manager around. But basically it should launch wpa-supplicant on up and stop wpa-supplicant on down. then the config file for wpa-supplicant will contain ssid and key |
| 13:45.22 | hawken | also having a delay of 3-5 seconds is good for letting it connect before trying to get a lease |
| 13:45.31 | hawken | I'm sure someone here has a better solution |
| 13:45.44 | greycat | "fix the ethernet"? |
| 13:45.58 | dvs | yup |
| 13:46.00 | hawken | just let them deal with it lol |
| 13:46.11 | hawken | I also did this kind of thing early on |
| 13:46.13 | hawken | it sucks but it's ok |
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| 13:46.26 | hawken | then drill a hole through the wall for ethernet later |
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| 13:47.50 | hawken | honestly moving the laptop to where the router is would be an easier fix... |
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| 13:49.39 | hawken | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
| 13:49.52 | hawken | good luck :) |
| 13:52.18 | melpy | ^w^ |
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| 13:55.53 | Janos | hey there, I see ipsec-tools has been removed from buster, does anyone know of a replacement to setup ipsec policies on startup ? |
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| 14:05.27 | Tenkawa | Lady_Aleena: hows the transition to linux going? |
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| 14:12.05 | LtL | Tenkawa: more of a dist-upgrade issue for her. |
| 14:12.16 | Tenkawa | true |
| 14:12.25 | somiaj | Tenkawa: they have been using debian for quite a while, but needed help on the stretch -> buster upgrade. |
| 14:12.38 | Tenkawa | but it seems like her stuff was really old |
| 14:12.54 | LtL | somiaj: jessie to stretch i believe. |
| 14:13.12 | Tenkawa | so thats still quite a transition even if its internal to os |
| 14:13.17 | ksk | topic of the month :D |
| 14:13.19 | somiaj | actually that makes more since, they seem to be content that once it is working to leave it alone. |
| 14:13.38 | Tenkawa | doesnt always have to entail multi-os |
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| 14:14.13 | greycat | jessie to stretch, and she ran into a huge roadblock with nvidia, and several other roadblocks because she had a crapton of jessie-backports installed, and I don't know if she ever managed the apache transition yet |
| 14:14.27 | Tenkawa | ouc |
| 14:14.28 | Tenkawa | h |
| 14:14.44 | Tenkawa | apache can be a pain ....... |
| 14:14.44 | echoSMILE | at 'apt-get update' I got the message: media change please insert the disk labeled... |
| 14:14.56 | Tenkawa | in any context |
| 14:15.02 | LtL | echoSMILE: un-comment the cdrom line |
| 14:15.03 | greycat | although the stretch apache transition is pretty small compared to the jessie one |
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| 14:15.37 | greycat | or comment them all out, or delete them all forever and only use network sources |
| 14:15.56 | Tenkawa | greycat: I am just so glad I knew apache inside and out before I ever got started on debian |
| 14:16.11 | greycat | netinstall putting cdrom lines in sources.list and not putting network lines in, just because you installed without firmware, is one of the most cruel jokes ever |
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| 14:16.35 | Tenkawa | agrees |
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| 14:17.10 | echoSMILE | LtL ok, but the others lines are commented |
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| 14:17.39 | LtL | echoSMILE: err, comment that line, serious lack of coffee here. sorry |
| 14:17.40 | saskwach | I have /etc/network/interfaces.d/mesh0 with these contents: https://pastebin.com/nJ8gu2Fn When I bring the interface up, it comes up and works fine, except it doesn't get assigned a link-local IPv6 address. Here are some relevant other things (the thing in /var/log/messages shows up whenever I bring the interface up) https://pastebin.com/y57LvVhW |
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| 14:18.11 | echoSMILE | LtL but I need to get a entry on that file for apt no? |
| 14:18.18 | LtL | echoSMILE: un-comment the deb lines, comment cdrom. |
| 14:18.19 | greycat | !stretch sources.list |
| 14:18.19 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 14:19.10 | hawken | echoSMILE: the line with the cdrom source needs to go. the other lines are probably fine |
| 14:19.29 | Tenkawa | brb... kernel update time |
| 14:21.22 | echoSMILE | hawken weird, I make a apt-get update and then apt-get install wireless-tools says unable to locate package |
| 14:22.06 | LtL | echoSMILE: did you append non-free and contrib |
| 14:22.26 | greycat | wireless-tools is in main though |
| 14:22.30 | echoSMILE | i append only the non-free on all lines |
| 14:22.47 | hawken | sooo in brief terms it should say: |
| 14:22.59 | LtL | echoSMILE: is main at the end of each line? |
| 14:23.15 | hawken | deb http:///someplace/debian stretch main contrib non-free |
| 14:23.31 | echoSMILE | LtL non-free |
| 14:23.32 | hawken | how much different is it |
| 14:24.15 | LtL | echoSMILE: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free |
| 14:24.57 | greycat | did the "apt update" complete without errors? |
| 14:25.11 | echoSMILE | i only have for that url the stretch-updates |
| 14:25.16 | LtL | !tell echoSMILE about stretch sources.list |
| 14:25.17 | echoSMILE | greycat yes |
| 14:25.32 | LtL | echoSMILE: read the message from dpkg carefully. |
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| 14:28.03 | echoSMILE | working. |
| 14:28.22 | echoSMILE | tks |
| 14:28.26 | hawken | nice |
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| 14:30.30 | echoSMILE | I already config /etc/network/interfaces but after reboot I need to do the 'ifup interface' |
| 14:30.37 | echoSMILE | What I am missing? |
| 14:30.46 | hawken | auto <interface> |
| 14:30.47 | saskwach | echoSMILE: auto interface |
| 14:30.57 | echoSMILE | i have it |
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| 14:31.52 | hawken | will probably need some logs for this one |
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| 14:32.03 | hawken | kind of hard to tell from here |
| 14:32.48 | Tenkawa | pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces for that device |
| 14:32.48 | echoSMILE | actually is working, somehow just after few seconds |
| 14:32.53 | Tenkawa | ahh ok |
| 14:32.56 | Tenkawa | good |
| 14:33.14 | Tenkawa | probably dhcp just had to get an ip |
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| 14:33.53 | hawken | as I said earlier it can be smart to have a "up sleep 3" or so to let the dhclient wait a little. then dhclient may get an ip on first try and it goes a bit faster |
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| 14:34.24 | hawken | but dhclient will try again so it's fine either way |
| 14:34.32 | Tenkawa | is going to make today his cycle his battery day... |
| 14:34.35 | Tenkawa | haahaaahaa |
| 14:34.47 | Tenkawa | down to 18% |
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| 14:34.59 | echoSMILE | what I need to disable dhcp client to not use it? |
| 14:35.02 | Tenkawa | I'm waiting for my commputer to just fall |
| 14:35.38 | Tenkawa | lets give it a little boost... |
| 14:35.57 | Tenkawa | echoSMILE: not to use dhcp? |
| 14:36.47 | echoSMILE | yes |
| 14:37.10 | Tenkawa | you need to change the settings in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:37.18 | Tenkawa | for that device |
| 14:37.22 | Tenkawa | man 5 interfaces |
| 14:37.29 | Tenkawa | to read up on it |
| 14:37.48 | Tenkawa | thats the manpage if I remember correctly |
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| 14:38.32 | hawken | ah yes you can set static ip, that can be useful if you don't want to rely on dhcp |
| 14:38.58 | Tenkawa | yep.. that was the manpage and section.. i just checked |
| 14:39.11 | greycat | static IP makes sense for a "server", yes |
| 14:39.11 | Tenkawa | read up there |
| 14:39.34 | Tenkawa | greycat: or if you are like me and have point to point connections |
| 14:39.55 | greycat | well, echoSMILE is trying to set up a laptop as a (home?) server, using wireless only |
| 14:40.34 | Tenkawa | well... my raspberry pi's are staticly connected via ethernet to my laptops |
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| 14:40.47 | greycat | and he installed using the vanilla netinst, so he had to manually add firmware, and sources.list was all mangled, ... |
| 14:40.49 | Tenkawa | because the places I go have network isolation |
| 14:40.57 | Tenkawa | so I cant connect to thm |
| 14:40.59 | Tenkawa | er them |
| 14:41.18 | Tenkawa | so it is very useful |
| 14:42.40 | Tenkawa | wow sometimes rsync is too efficient |
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| 14:44.21 | Tenkawa | copied my whole kernel tree in under 45 seconds |
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| 14:47.52 | echoSMILE | "ip link set <interface> up" give me "operation not possible due to rf-kill" |
| 14:49.11 | mutantturkey | echoSMILE: phsyically flip the switch then |
| 14:49.24 | mutantturkey | if you have one :-) |
| 14:49.33 | echoSMILE | I don't |
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| 14:50.21 | han-solo | https://askubuntu.com/questions/62166/siocsifflags-operation-not-possible-due-to-rf-kill ? |
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| 14:52.58 | echoSMILE | hard blocked: yes |
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| 14:56.47 | echoSMILE | Actually I have a switch :.P |
| 14:58.14 | Tenkawa | hey my battery is down to 5% |
| 14:58.27 | Tenkawa | almost there |
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| 15:00.56 | Tenkawa | 3%... time to restart with ac plugged in |
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| 15:26.20 | nifker | I got a "Intel® Wireless-AC 9260" Wifi chip and would like to know how to enable it(if possible) |
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| 15:26.56 | nifker | I know it uses iwlwifi but using "modprobe iwlwifi" doesnt help |
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| 15:27.26 | jhutchins_wk | nifker: What does it say in dmesg? |
| 15:27.55 | jhutchins_wk | nifker: We can get you a little info if you post the pciid (lspci -nn) |
| 15:28.16 | greycat | ,bug 929984 |
| 15:28.17 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/929984 in pciutils (open): «lspci: please make -nn the default»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2019-06-04; last modified: 2019-06-04. |
| 15:28.32 | nifker | jhutchins_wk: oh it says I need a newer version of iwlwifi |
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| 15:31.25 | dvs | nifker, you need stretch-backports |
| 15:31.34 | nifker | dvs: Im on buster |
| 15:31.40 | dvs | even better! |
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| 15:31.55 | dvs | need firmware-iwlwifi package? |
| 15:32.19 | nifker | I guess I need to reboot right? |
| 15:32.33 | dvs | It's the easy way |
| 15:32.47 | nifker | and the other way is... |
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| 15:33.08 | dvs | ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0 (or whatever wlan0 is) |
| 15:33.19 | greycat | yes, you would probably need to reboot after installing the new iwlwifi stuff |
| 15:33.32 | dvs | modprobe won't do it? |
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| 15:33.35 | nifker | dvs: uhm but I dont have a wifi device yet in ip |
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| 15:33.38 | nifker | nope |
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| 15:35.10 | jelly | dvs: modprobe may be fine if you can modprobe -r first |
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| 15:36.00 | jelly | explaining "go cycle the kernel module or reboot" over irc is more complex that "go reboot" |
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| 15:36.11 | nifker | ok showing up now |
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| 15:44.04 | nifker | when I set my wlan dev up its still shown as DOWN |
| 15:45.21 | nifker | no errors in dmesg now |
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| 15:48.03 | han-solo | journalctl -xe -f -u networking ? |
| 15:49.49 | nifker | ok got that now but when trying to connect using iwconfig I get |
| 15:49.49 | nifker | "Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : |
| 15:49.49 | nifker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:55.52 | nifker | its an XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX key |
| 15:56.13 | nifker | so I tried "sudo iwconfig wlp6s0 key s:XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" |
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| 15:58.59 | ruben23 | hi there guys when i try to run this command ---> apt-get install -y --force-yes git and i get this ERROR -----> Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 8.11.0 _Jessie_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20180623-13:07' in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter |
| 15:59.12 | ruben23 | any idea guys how to work around on this.? |
| 15:59.18 | greycat | comment out or delete the cdrom lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt update |
| 15:59.19 | colo-work | remove the cd definition for your sources.list |
| 15:59.53 | RoyK | s/for/in/ |
| 16:00.30 | ruben23 | greycat: thanks doing it now |
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| 16:03.02 | RoyK | ruben23: apt update after that |
| 16:03.21 | RoyK | ruben23: and no reason for --force-yes |
| 16:03.25 | ruben23 | thanks guys all working now ;-) |
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| 16:07.25 | jhutchins_wk | ruben23: Also consider upgrading to stretch while there is still (limited) support. |
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| 16:22.25 | uio | Hello. Using XFCE here. My wallpaper is showing as grey, not the image I selected. How can I fix this? |
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| 16:25.56 | RandomGuyOnIrc | How can I see the maximum allowed value of shared memory objects for a user, and change that value? |
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| 16:29.57 | teclo | evening, just installed easytag and it's like 20 minutes it goes through all of /dev, /var, /sys, /usr, (perhaps even /proc) complaining it cannot open directories... is that a feature ? |
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| 16:32.25 | teclo | ah now it's going into /root |
| 16:32.29 | teclo | ah well trying |
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| 16:32.59 | uio | I tried rebooting and the wallpaper is still not showing. |
| 16:33.15 | uio | Also, I have two accounts on the machine and the other one is working fine... |
| 16:33.22 | uio | Any thoughts on this? |
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| 16:38.00 | annadane | uhhh. what do i do if i'm installing something in xfce-terminal and i switched to a tty and back to the graphical desktop and now xfce-terminal is gone, i still hear the disk spinning so i assume it's still carrying on and i'll wait for that to stop... just weird |
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| 16:41.34 | annadane | i guess it's done, just weird the terminal vanished |
| 16:41.43 | annadane | oh well |
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| 16:43.26 | LtL | annadane: run top and see what's what. |
| 16:43.29 | greycat | did you look for minimized icons, or the terminal behind hidden behind some other window? |
| 16:44.26 | annadane | well i ps aux'd it and checked for apt and it didn't show anything after the disk stopped making angry busy noises |
| 16:44.33 | annadane | so it all finished *shrug* |
| 16:44.53 | annadane | oh you mean check for the terminal, i'm an idiot |
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| 16:46.14 | annadane | yeah weird, the terminal doesn't show up in top |
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| 16:46.49 | chris689 | #freebsd-de |
| 16:46.58 | annadane | and i don't have half installed packages or anything |
| 16:47.15 | annadane | it, like, closed itself but still completed the upgrade |
| 16:47.28 | annadane | s/upgrade/install |
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| 16:48.17 | jhutchins_wk | uio: Try setting it to a different image. You may not have permissions to open the image you selected. |
| 16:48.17 | annadane | dpkg.log: "installed dbus"... what? |
| 16:48.23 | annadane | how? |
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| 16:49.12 | uio | jhutchins_wk, It displayed the image like yesterday. The same one! |
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| 16:49.36 | annadane | anyway, whatever, this isn't a problem, ignore me and focus on other people |
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| 16:50.32 | chris689 | ls |
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| 16:50.55 | nifker | how do I set the WiFi keyphrase with "iw"? |
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| 16:54.07 | PackageCompare | Good Afternoon. Does anyone know of a program I can use that will run a command and take a screenshot of the results? |
| 16:54.28 | PackageCompare | Auditors require me to run certain commands and I must provide screenshots |
| 16:54.35 | PackageCompare | I am trying to optimize the process |
| 16:54.41 | greycat | is this a ... oh never mind, it's a PEOPLE question not a technical question |
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| 16:55.05 | greycat | when you say screen shot, do you mean a literal graphical image of the pixels of the screen? not a copy-paste of the text in a terminal? |
| 16:55.16 | PackageCompare | Graphical, correct |
| 16:55.43 | greycat | configure your window manager to bind some key combo to run whatever your fav screen-shot program is (scrot, etc.) |
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| 16:55.51 | greycat | then you can just press that key combo a lot |
| 16:56.18 | PackageCompare | But for files like login.defs, you have to scroll and take a screenshot |
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| 16:56.20 | greycat | PrintScrn might be a nice choice if it's not already bound |
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| 16:56.34 | greycat | see, now you're in the PEOPLE part of the question. |
| 16:56.41 | greycat | you said screen shot, I'm answering that part. |
| 16:56.49 | PackageCompare | Sorry :( |
| 16:56.56 | greycat | "But they also expect other information" is hard for us to gueszs. |
| 16:58.14 | uio | Software is where the technical and the people meet. |
| 16:58.26 | nifker | Im trying it like this but no success https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/d6fbedfc039c483186be7853ab980174 |
| 16:58.36 | nifker | cant get the wifi interface to work# |
| 16:58.45 | PackageCompare | I really need them to fix their process |
| 16:58.56 | greycat | bets they also want it in some Microsoft product, possibly Power Point. |
| 16:59.16 | PackageCompare | So what do you guys use for auditors? |
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| 17:00.52 | EdePopede | auditors? |
| 17:01.22 | PackageCompare | Well it only applies if you work for a Public company. I wish we were private :( |
| 17:01.27 | PackageCompare | SOX compliance |
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| 17:02.38 | EdePopede | has a Willis moment. |
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| 17:06.40 | LtL | nifker: make 'auto wlp6s0' your first line, then issue 'sudo dhclient wlp6s0' |
| 17:07.45 | nifker | LtL: I thank you - its working now :D |
| 17:08.17 | LtL | nifker: cool |
| 17:08.38 | dvs | rats! |
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| 17:09.42 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Does anyone here know where LibreOffice gets its colors from? Is it GTK, and if yes, is it 2 or 3? |
| 17:10.08 | greycat | I guess that means all the real problems have been solved, so yay. |
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| 17:11.52 | uio1 | Any remedies for the MissingXFCEwallpaper? |
| 17:12.24 | greycat | Lady_Aleena: you could pick one of the libreoffice packages and trace the dependencies until you get to libgtk* |
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| 17:12.41 | greycat | Lady_Aleena: or, you could pick one of the libreoffice binaries and ldd it until you find libgtk* |
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| 17:15.02 | Lady_Aleena | greycat, for me at this moment, that makes me say "ugh" and wanting to head desk. I guess it isn't important right now. |
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| 17:17.41 | greycat | apparently if you trace the program execution path you come to /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/oosplash (on buster) which is the first actual *program* instead of wrapper script |
| 17:17.55 | greycat | /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/oosplash is not linked with any gtk libraries |
| 17:18.24 | Tom-_ | neither is /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin |
| 17:18.38 | Lady_Aleena | greycat, does that mean that it has its own color scheme thingy? |
| 17:18.49 | greycat | Possibly. You might have to ask the libreoffice channel. |
| 17:19.02 | Lady_Aleena | greycat, I have the question open there, no replies yet. |
| 17:19.22 | Tom-_ | although it does use libdl (dynamic library loading) |
| 17:19.27 | Lady_Aleena | It's a pretty dead channel, at least right now. |
| 17:19.46 | Tom-_ | Lady_Aleena, perhaps the libreoffice-gtk2 or the libreoffice-gtk3 package can help you |
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| 17:20.15 | Lady_Aleena | Maybe I should dive into getting apache2 set up again. I don't know why it isn't working. |
| 17:20.40 | Tom-_ | i forgot to tell you to put that on the to-reinstall list |
| 17:21.26 | Lady_Aleena | Reinstall apache2? |
| 17:22.03 | Lady_Aleena | And figure out why cpan isn't working. |
| 17:22.36 | uio1 | Also, selecting 'set as background' in Thunar doesn't work. I don't get it... |
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| 17:25.51 | Lady_Aleena | Tom-_, are you telling me I have to reinstall apache2? |
| 17:26.27 | Tom-_ | Lady_Aleena, no, only if it's not really installed. i'd run apt-get install apache2 just to make sure |
| 17:27.17 | Lady_Aleena | apache2 is already at the "newest" version. |
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| 17:27.45 | Lady_Aleena | BRB |
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| 17:28.21 | uio1 | Could it be the folder that is wrong? It worked before... I selected an image in Downloads via the settings. |
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| 17:31.33 | uio1 | How can I better describe the problem? |
| 17:32.43 | Tom-_ | uio1, what does MissingXFCEwallpaper mean? are you just trying to set a background in XFCE? |
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| 17:33.28 | uio1 | Tom-_, Yes, I had a background image, but now just a grey background appears. |
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| 17:33.41 | uio1 | Tom-_, I'm using XFCE, yes. |
| 17:33.55 | uio1 | Also, no issues in the other user account. |
| 17:34.04 | Tom-_ | okay, i can't help right now but maybe someone knows |
| 17:34.16 | uio1 | Tom-_, Kewl, thanks. |
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| 17:37.17 | uio1 | Also can't set the icons to show, so maybe the issue the desktop setter?? |
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| 17:42.53 | Lady_Aleena | Here are some copies of files to see if they help me get apache2 going: /etc/hosts: http://paste.debian.net/1086437/ , /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: http://paste.debian.net/1086438/ , /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf: http://paste.debian.net/1086439/ |
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| 17:43.16 | greycat | start by stating what the problem is |
| 17:43.18 | Lady_Aleena | s/help me/can help you help me/; |
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| 17:43.50 | Lady_Aleena | greycat, my website that is at $HOME/Documents/www/ is coming up in the browser with a 500 error. |
| 17:43.59 | greycat | look in the error.log file |
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| 17:44.11 | greycat | or in wherever you configured the error log to be for that particular virtual host |
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| 17:45.08 | Lady_Aleena | http://paste.debian.net/1086441/ |
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| 17:46.08 | Tom-_ | Lady_Aleena, your local ~/perl directory might not be compatible with your new operating system version |
| 17:46.41 | Tom-_ | i don't know why you have a local perl directory, but you can if you want to, i support that kind of thing |
| 17:46.50 | Tom-_ | but you may need to recompile it |
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| 17:47.08 | Lady_Aleena | Well, I was told that sudo cpan was BAD! |
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| 17:48.26 | rant | not as bad a sudo cspan :P |
| 17:48.28 | Lady_Aleena | But since I need the most recent versions of most cpan modules, I need something more up to date than the Debian packages with modules in them. |
| 17:49.13 | Tenkawa | what is telling you need more recent versions? |
| 17:49.42 | Tom-_ | that would be me. she has a ~/perl5 directory which looks like a custom Perl installation, and I know she recently upgraded Debian between releases, which I assume broke API |
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| 17:50.02 | Tenkawa | because once you get your debian build updated those are fairly up to date |
| 17:50.14 | uio1 | Turns out xfdesktop wasn't running. Running that in terminal did the trick. Not sure what killed it though. Anyways, thanks for your help. |
| 17:50.15 | greycat | she just upgraded to stretch |
| 17:50.22 | Tenkawa | Tom-_: no. i mean why is she using custom ones at all? |
| 17:50.33 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, like the module Lingua::En::Inflect. Tweaks are made when it fails on something, and I need those tweaks as they happen. |
| 17:51.02 | Tenkawa | those should be cleaned/checked and reapplied |
| 17:51.06 | Tom-_ | uio1, glad to have tried to help |
| 17:51.37 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, what should be cleaned/checked and reapplied? |
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| 17:51.58 | melpy | cd minecraft |
| 17:52.08 | melpy | wrong window <_> |
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| 17:52.27 | uio1 | melpy, lol |
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| 17:53.20 | Tenkawa | Tom-_: did anyone have her work on ~/.cpan? |
| 17:53.30 | Tenkawa | and see what was there? |
| 17:53.49 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, I just started on this a few moments ago. I haven't been anywhere yet. |
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| 17:54.24 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, what do I need to look at in .cpan? |
| 17:54.25 | Tenkawa | thats why I was encouring cleaning up the environment |
| 17:54.46 | uio1 | Tenkawa, Always a good idea after oil spills. |
| 17:54.52 | ghormoon | hi, what would you use as easiest way to get a reverse tunnel from a bfu? make him make ssh keys and do some special authorized keys entry that wouldn't give him any actual shell, just the tunnel? |
| 17:55.01 | uio1 | Tenkawa, Or any time really. |
| 17:55.01 | Tenkawa | uio1: and stuff sitting around for ages |
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| 17:55.58 | ghormoon | i found out some reverse tunnel bash oneliner, but that has no ssl (would be able to wrap it in some ssl enabled nc, maybe), ehich is the totally easiest way, but that also breaks vim etc |
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| 17:56.22 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, what do I need to edit in .cpan to get it working again? |
| 17:56.49 | Tenkawa | Lady_Aleena: its not "that" simple |
| 17:57.03 | greycat | ghormoon: ssh -R |
| 17:57.20 | Tenkawa | you're trying to oversimplify a problem before you know whats causing it |
| 17:57.20 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, okay. I'm ready for "not simple". |
| 17:57.27 | ghormoon | yeah that's what i thought, but that means allowinh the bfus keys on some of my public hosted boxes |
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| 17:57.46 | Tenkawa | did you pastebin the error log? |
| 17:57.56 | Tenkawa | if so which one was it? |
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| 17:58.09 | ghormoon | also i would need a key or user on the users box, or can i -R bash directly? |
| 17:58.18 | Tenkawa | so we can see what apache is complaining about |
| 17:58.26 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, http://paste.debian.net/1086441 is the error log for apache2. |
| 17:58.28 | Tenkawa | you step backward with apache |
| 17:58.50 | Tenkawa | ok let me take a look |
| 17:58.52 | Lady_Aleena | I don't know why it is so tiny though. |
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| 18:00.39 | Tenkawa | /home/me/perl5/lib/perl5/x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi/auto/List/Util/Util.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck |
| 18:00.46 | Tenkawa | that line bothersme |
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| 18:01.06 | Lady_Aleena | I would say so. |
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| 18:01.16 | greycat | I'd say she needs to rebuild /home/me/perl5 with the stretch version of perl |
| 18:01.24 | Tenkawa | greycat: agreed |
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| 18:02.23 | Lady_Aleena | How would I rebuild /home/me/perl5? |
| 18:02.33 | greycat | how did you build it the first time? |
| 18:02.39 | Lady_Aleena | I don't remember. |
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| 18:02.56 | Lady_Aleena | It was so long ago, I just did things that I was told to do. |
| 18:03.25 | Tenkawa | learned thee value of documentation this way |
| 18:03.55 | watom | hey. i continue to have this bug in buster with curl and https: https://paste.debian.net/1086443/ which i solved with "export CURL_CA_BUNDLE=/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" in my shell profile. but that fix only interactive shell. any idea how i can set this to let it work even with scripts? |
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| 18:04.15 | jelly | Lady_Aleena: you don't need to rebuild modules. perl -c your actual scripts and see if new debian already has them |
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| 18:05.15 | jelly | and fetch from cpan only what the distro does not already have |
| 18:05.32 | Tenkawa | brb afk |
| 18:05.43 | Lady_Aleena | Hold on everyone, I'm trying to find out how I did things before. |
| 18:05.48 | greycat | she seems to believe that she needs bleeding edge versions of every module she's using |
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| 18:11.43 | Lady_Aleena | greycat, when Lingua::EN::Inflect returns "cyclopss" instead "cyclopses", and then it gets fixed, I need that version. |
| 18:12.17 | greycat | I thought it was cyclopes. But maybe that's the pedantic version not recommended for general use.... |
| 18:13.06 | Tenkawa | back |
| 18:13.12 | Tenkawa | what did I miss |
| 18:13.14 | greycat | wiktionary says (plural cyclops or cyclopes or cyclopses) |
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| 18:13.48 | Lady_Aleena | I am still digging for how I got cpan set up to install modules to my user lib. |
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| 18:15.39 | Lady_Aleena | Well, it looks like I set up cpan in a chat session, and there is no record of how I eventually did it. *head desks* |
| 18:16.04 | greycat | maybe just ask #perl how to do it |
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| 18:16.14 | greycat | unless someone here knows and speaks up |
| 18:16.31 | Lady_Aleena | I am banned from #perl. |
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| 18:17.23 | Tenkawa | Lady_Aleena: in a shell whats the output of: |
| 18:17.27 | Tenkawa | echo %PERL5LIB% |
| 18:17.38 | Tenkawa | as the apache user |
| 18:18.02 | greycat | wut |
| 18:18.06 | han-solo | :/ |
| 18:18.10 | Tenkawa | doh |
| 18:18.17 | Tenkawa | wait thats only going to work in perl |
| 18:18.28 | greycat | that's only going to work in MS-DOS, or possibly MS-Windows |
| 18:18.33 | jelly | why am I not surprised |
| 18:18.42 | Tenkawa | er dos |
| 18:19.04 | Lady_Aleena | Tenkawa, I echo $PERL5LIB and got: /home/me/perl5/lib/perl5:/home/me/Documents/www/files/lib |
| 18:19.09 | Tenkawa | I'm about to fall from lack of caffeine |
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| 18:19.18 | Tenkawa | ok |
| 18:19.25 | Tenkawa | well that helps though |
| 18:20.14 | Lady_Aleena | Take a breather everyone, I need to go fold laundry. |
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| 18:22.38 | Tenkawa | gotta run... time to get ready to walk to the market |
| 18:22.46 | Tenkawa | cheers all |
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| 18:46.00 | Niwla23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:46.39 | jelly | Niwla23: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 18:46.55 | ghormoon | is there some authorized_keys option that disallows -L but allows -R? |
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| 18:47.20 | Niwla23 | i found it |
| 18:47.29 | Niwla23 | its for a web dashboard |
| 18:47.55 | greycat | !sudo |
| 18:47.55 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". See also <sudo path>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
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| 18:48.20 | gryfon | is it a good idea to setup detached header for luks encrypted external hdd? i store stuff which shouldn't be accessed by unwanted people |
| 18:48.28 | greycat | set up that, and then have your web thing run sudo /sbin/shutdown whatever |
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| 18:48.43 | greycat | meanwhile, put the permissions BACK the way they are supposed to be |
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| 18:54.58 | Niwla23 | and how to kill ashell skript |
| 18:55.00 | Niwla23 | ? |
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| 18:55.19 | greycat | exactly the same way you kill any other process |
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| 18:57.24 | ghormoon | can anyone confirm permitopen works on buster? seems to be in openssh 7.9 |
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| 18:59.07 | jelly | what is "permitopen" |
| 18:59.10 | ghormoon | sry permitlisten, not permitopen :D |
| 18:59.24 | ghormoon | limit to only specific -R |
| 18:59.38 | ghormoon | https://github.com/PowerShell/openssh-portable/commit/93c06ab6b77514e0447fe4f1d822afcbb2a9be08 |
| 18:59.44 | jelly | oh, that's nice |
| 19:00.06 | jelly | it's listed in sshd_config on buster, FWIW, have not tried. |
| 19:00.14 | ghormoon | also permitlisten? |
| 19:00.17 | jelly | in sshd_config(5), the manual. |
| 19:00.21 | ghormoon | permitopen should do specific -L |
| 19:00.30 | ghormoon | but i actually need permitlisten |
| 19:00.33 | ghormoon | to allow -R |
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| 19:00.54 | ghormoon | i want to disable -L (just do a specific key that can do only -R and nothing else) |
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| 19:01.26 | Niwla23 | this pi@raspberrypi:~ $ killall ~/restartserver.sh |
| 19:01.26 | Niwla23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.26 | Niwla23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.30 | ghormoon | i don't have any box with buster to try it myself actually :D |
| 19:02.03 | ghormoon | jelly: are there both? or just permitopen? |
| 19:02.08 | jelly | ghormoon: both |
| 19:02.11 | somiaj | Niwla23: maybe use something like ps to find the actual pid of the script. |
| 19:02.11 | ghormoon | thanks |
| 19:02.19 | ghormoon | I'll need to jump from jessie to buster then :D |
| 19:02.24 | ghormoon | or make socle dedicated -R box |
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| 19:02.40 | jelly | Niwla23: I suggest looking at "pkill" instead of "killall", and its -f option |
| 19:03.12 | jelly | and its brother pgrep to test matching only the desired processes, not more, not less |
| 19:03.39 | jelly | and also, if you're using raspbian, |
| 19:03.42 | jelly | !raspbian |
| 19:03.42 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 19:04.45 | melpy | ghormoon just tested on buster, worked as described |
| 19:05.12 | ghormoon | thanks |
| 19:05.12 | Niwla23 | nice |
| 19:05.43 | ghormoon | I'm just thinking if to wildshot the dist-upgrade on the box i intended to use or make a new temp one |
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| 19:07.36 | Niwla23 | where is pkill saved? |
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| 19:09.31 | greycat | it's not saved. it's a command. |
| 19:09.36 | greycat | it has a man apge. |
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| 19:11.41 | jelly | Niwla23: pkill and pgrep come in package "procps", you may have to install it |
| 19:12.40 | greycat | procps has higher priority than psmisc does, so it would be really weird if he has killall but not pkill |
| 19:12.55 | Lady_Aleena | I'm back. |
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| 19:15.58 | somiaj | ghormoon: if starting at jessie, make sure to upgrade through stretch before heading to buster. |
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| 20:15.34 | ghormoon-web | hi, what commands should be available after dist upgrade for iptables/nftables? i don't have any iptables related commands (even after update-alternatives --set iptables /usr/sbin/iptables-legacy) also nf<tab> gives nothing. both iptables and nftable spackages are installed though |
| 20:16.35 | ghormoon-web | (after dist-upgrade to buster) |
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| 20:17.50 | ksk | !debian next |
| 20:18.04 | ksk | !next |
| 20:18.04 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 20:18.06 | ksk | eh. |
| 20:18.33 | ksk | ghormoon-web: we support debian stable in here, but there is #debian-next on irc.debian.org (oftc.net) |
| 20:18.36 | ksk | !debian-next |
| 20:18.36 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:19.24 | ksk | ghormoon-web: ps: you could do "dpkg -L $pkg" (in that case iptables, nftables) to find some binaries that come with said packages (might also add a "| grep bin" |
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| 20:21.38 | ghormoon-web | ah, $PATH is broken |
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| 20:22.17 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes |
| 20:22.17 | ghormoon-web | but they really did not reastore, so it's broken somewhere high :) |
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| 20:35.15 | ghormoon-web | argh, how do i add subinterface with ip? (this is so bad command name for googling) :D ip link set interfacename up doesn't do the trick :D |
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| 21:23.20 | ghormoon-web | can i somewhere pull ancient rpm (from web)? php5-curl 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 21:25.18 | ghormoon-web | *deb :) |
| 21:26.31 | ksk | !archive |
| 21:26.31 | dpkg | i heard archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 21:26.48 | ksk | ghormoon-web: php5 will have like 31337 publicy known exploits by now though, be aware of that.. |
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| 21:57.17 | Romy | anybody got a faulty outdated script , want me to fix it ? |
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| 21:57.35 | dvs | ??? |
| 21:57.36 | annadane | ... |
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| 21:58.11 | annadane | i mean, you're not going to improve *much* upon already made modern renditions of shakespeare |
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| 21:59.10 | dvs | points at the infinite number of monkeys typing |
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| 22:01.37 | xparanoik | how can i change the default non-interactive shell from dash to bash ? |
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| 22:02.20 | petn-randall | xparanoik: You set it with your shebang in the script. |
| 22:03.34 | xparanoik | petn-randall sounds good, wondering because i'm installing a trial of splunk and it mentions possible issues with dash, so it suggests you change default to bash instead |
| 22:03.37 | annadane | Romy, more seriously, not to mock you and be potentially rude but generally the people writing scripts will fix things themselves |
| 22:03.46 | annadane | also, #debian isn't really great for such requests |
| 22:04.43 | petn-randall | xparanoik: if they have scripts that have "#!/bin/sh" as shebang, they only are allowed to use POSIX. You probably should slap them on the wrist for not writing good shell code. |
| 22:05.28 | xparanoik | yeah, guess it'll be a good trial, see if it works right |
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| 22:06.11 | sleepingforest | I'm trying to mount a disk from an old laptop. It had Jessie installed, and was LUKS encrypted via the installer. I mounted the disk in another machine, fdisk -l looks fine, i can open the disk, but im not seeing any volume groups or logical volumes. |
| 22:07.07 | Romy | annadane ? ok halting ppl who write scripts ... just reqular ppl who don't write scripts and miss to use one unsuported outdated tool that is not function any more |
| 22:07.56 | annadane | fair enough, thank you for your offer, it's very nice of you :) |
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| 22:13.27 | sleepingforest | when i try to fsck the opened disk, i get superblock errors. vgscan/lvscan/pvscan return nothing. i think the disk might be corrupted. what can i do to salvage information from it? |
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| 22:16.10 | GenTooMan | question what reason could apt-get update hang? the information in /etc/apt/sources.list messed up maybe? |
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| 22:17.41 | GenTooMan | does apt choke on https entries? |
| 22:17.55 | sleepingforest | you need https transport for https entries |
| 22:18.29 | sleepingforest | apt-transport-https |
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| 22:37.58 | GenTooMan | huh well that might do it. |
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| 22:39.50 | GenTooMan | ok that is now fixed thanks sleepingforest |
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| 22:48.07 | sleepingforest | yw |
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| 23:07.40 | Romy | another outdated script just got fixed .......https://imgur.com/a/PpMgIsm |
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| 23:35.47 | GenTooMan | sleepingforest: not sure how you repair an encrypted drive that might be corrupted. However google does have some engineering research on how often you should replace your hard drive. https://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf |
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| 23:37.43 | GenTooMan | sleepingforest: might be relevant https://serverfault.com/questions/375090/using-fsck-to-check-and-repair-luks-encrypted-disk |
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| 23:44.13 | karlpinc | sleepingforest: Step one is to use dd (or ddrescue) to copy the entire drive to a different drive. That way you touch the broken drive as little as possible. At least that's the approach for spinning drives. Then you can recover from the copy. (And it wouldn't hurt to backup the copy either. Just saying.) |
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| 23:49.03 | Romy | ping |
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