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| 03:55.51 | Tom-_ | no idea oscurochu1, but maybe someone will know later. is it dirty? |
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| 03:58.56 | oscurochu1 | Tom-_: no its not dirty. it works perfectly fine on windows. plus its a newer mouse, no way it can get that dirty that fast |
| 03:59.08 | Tom-_ | i believe you |
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| 04:04.41 | annadane | aliasnumber10, stretch has 4.9 something, buster will have 4.19, and 5+ will get backported at some point |
| 04:05.35 | annadane | errr |
| 04:05.39 | annadane | allenriath, ^ |
| 04:05.47 | annadane | sorry for the ping alias :P |
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| 04:09.49 | oscurochu1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:31.33 | Soo_Slow | is there any DE-independent software to draw and manage block diagrams? |
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| 04:36.39 | kingsley__ | I just upgraded an underpowered old computer to the "Stetch" version of Debian. Unfortunately, now desktop icons are missing and it's even slower. If I recall correctly, using a ""classic" version of Gnome used to be a work-around. What do you suggest trying? |
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| 04:40.22 | kingsley__ | Soo_Slow: Maybe Inkscape. |
| 04:40.26 | ksk | kingsley__: using a less ressource hungry DE. xfce maybe? |
| 04:40.54 | kingsley__ | ksk: Maybe. |
| 04:41.29 | jmcnaught | kingsley__: look under extentions in Tweak Tool, there should be a desktop icons extenion |
| 04:41.35 | ksk | or even smaller ones, I have been using fluxbox now for a while - if you want a real desktop though it might be a bad experience. |
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| 04:48.34 | Soo_Slow | sometimes DEs are overkill. Openbox+spacefm+tint may be enough, depending on your needs and knowledge |
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| 05:04.44 | Soo_Slow | but Gnome is 100% not suitable for old desktop |
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| 05:09.27 | epsilon | I personally won't recommend gnome anymore, I tried 1-2 years with current design, but I ended up looking for extensions whole time slowing everything down. I finally switched to xfce |
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| 05:24.48 | ozfalcon | Yeah, +1 for XFCE. Have been using it since gnome went queer. |
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| 05:25.38 | ozfalcon | The only thing I don't like about XFCE is the default file manager. But Install Nemo and your good to go. |
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| 05:28.43 | epsilon | yea, it's buggy. keep crashing when mount remote filesystems via network |
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| 05:37.55 | pingfloyd | ozfalcon: yeah, I've been using xfce4 for years. Did a lot of WM and DE hopping before that. |
| 05:39.50 | cthonic | xfce4 is "comfy" for daily use with a bit of tweaking. |
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| 05:44.29 | airwind | is XFCE still developed? |
| 05:44.41 | mpmc | Yes, just very slowly. |
| 05:44.55 | cthonic | airwind: yes, very slowly but progress is being made recently |
| 05:45.36 | cthonic | airwind: "Xfce 4.14pre1 released! |
| 05:46.08 | airwind | nice |
| 05:46.41 | airwind | I thought it was done for since I haven't seen any updates past 4.12 in a long while |
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| 05:47.57 | cthonic | airwind: as a project it is distributed in all these bits and pieces so at times pre-release 4.13 things are already being used |
| 05:48.05 | diogenes_ | no matter what DEs i try, in the end i always come back to xfce. |
| 05:49.58 | cthonic | ideally.. Xfce-next will fix the odd hotkeys issue I get where on login/return from suspend xfsettingds isn't started. I'd need to launch something via menu before any key-based shortcuts worked. |
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| 05:50.29 | cthonic | After replacing xfwm with openbox this issue vanished completely though. |
| 05:50.41 | pingfloyd | airwind: they're conservative about adding new features to it, which is a good thing. |
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| 05:51.26 | pingfloyd | airwind: it's that aspect, that is the appeal for users that tend to like it. The concept of a "no nonsense" desktop. |
| 05:51.47 | airwind | pingfloyd: haha, tell me about it |
| 05:52.09 | airwind | like the first time I tried KDE I was like OMG this thing has so much useless stuff in it |
| 05:52.15 | pingfloyd | on the flip side you have DEs like KDE and gnome that make drastic changes |
| 05:53.32 | airwind | I'm looking forward to see how LXQt comes along |
| 05:54.25 | pingfloyd | last time I checked out lxqt it seemed pretty much like lxde |
| 05:54.38 | pingfloyd | different widget looks of course |
| 05:54.57 | cthonic | At least KDE was accurate with packages that were an acronym for "Amusing Misuse of Resources" |
| 05:55.00 | pingfloyd | sort of like taking lxde and improving its appearance |
| 05:56.14 | Helsa | that joint was a freaking hard .... |
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| 06:56.03 | shellclear | hi everyone, In the last weeks debian always make filesystem checks at boot. I already checked fstab configuration and ran tune2fs against all filesystems but I didn't find any issues, except that last mount and write date are the same for all filesystems, 29 may 19 at 07:39 AM but this machine was rebooted several times since 29 May until now |
| 06:56.06 | shellclear | checking systemd services I've found systemctl status systemd-fsck-root.service reporting an error since 29 May look here -> https://paste.debian.net/1086693/, if someone could help me I will be gratefull |
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| 08:28.39 | rant | shellclear: any filesystem with pass=1 in fstab is ALWAYS checked on boot, usually however it passes the check quickly and you dont notice it |
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| 08:34.53 | rant | shellclear: the systemd-fsck-root service chcks for two conditions that the rootfs is ro and that /run/initramfs/fsck-root exists, if either of these is true, then the service fails |
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| 08:39.38 | rant | shellclear: typically /run/ is on tmpfs and existance of that file means fsck failed during initramfs and needs to be run manually |
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| 09:15.33 | jelly | ,v haproxy |
| 09:15.34 | judd | Package: haproxy on amd64 -- jessie-security: 1.5.8-3+deb8u1; jessie: 1.5.8-3+deb8u2; stretch: 1.7.5-2; stretch-backports: 1.8.19-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.8.19-1; sid: 1.8.19-1; experimental: 1.9.8-1 |
| 09:15.57 | jelly | ,checkbackport haproxy --fromrelease experimental |
| 09:15.58 | judd | Backporting package haproxy in experimentalâstretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch. |
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| 09:27.42 | Habbie | i just tried installing tcpdump to have apt tell me it's already installed |
| 09:27.44 | Habbie | .. in /usr/sbin |
| 09:27.52 | Habbie | so annoying |
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| 09:28.37 | mrtnt | If my "networking" service type of systemd unit has "Requires=iptables.service ip6tables.service" configuration line, then is there an logical AND or logical OR between the "iptables.service" and "ip6tables.service"? |
| 09:29.11 | Habbie | i'm pretty sure it's AND |
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| 09:36.33 | jelly | ,file ip6tables.service |
| 09:36.37 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 09:36.50 | jelly | ,file ip6tables.service --release buster |
| 09:36.55 | judd | No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file. |
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| 09:37.10 | jelly | mrtnt: where did you get those service unit definitions from? |
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| 09:55.18 | shellclear | rant: okay, I got it. that is, fileystems will always be checked because pass=1 is set on, I thought that pass value was just to set order that filesystems are checked. What I still dont understood is why all filesystems are saying that Last Mount and Write date were in May 29 same after rebooting laptop today. |
| 09:56.46 | shellclear | didn't understand* |
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| 10:00.50 | rant | shellclear: idk, but date/clock issues can lead to other problems like fs issues.. i.e. dates being in the future.. |
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| 10:04.47 | shellclear | rant: hwclock output 2019-05-29 12:02:50.561219+0200 and date command output vie jun 7 12:04:34 CEST 2019 |
| 10:05.19 | shellclear | I'll fix it and test again... |
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| 10:07.45 | rant | shellclear: yeah its probably still having the old date when initramfs is fsck, then systemd fixes it later |
| 10:08.01 | rant | but since initramfs created that file in /run/ systemd is rechecking the fs anyhow |
| 10:08.15 | rant | but if fsck sees timestamps in the future, thats prob the issue |
| 10:08.54 | shellclear | rant: I just adjust hardware clock running hwclock -w |
| 10:09.23 | shellclear | rant: : It was fixed |
| 10:09.27 | shellclear | :D |
| 10:09.48 | rant | idk about that |
| 10:10.16 | rant | you have the bigger question of why your hwclock was so off and how it stayed that way for a week or so on the same date?! |
| 10:10.24 | bora | shellclear: which kernel are you using |
| 10:10.53 | shellclear | bora: : -> 4.9.0-9-amd64 |
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| 10:11.30 | bora | ok you have hwclock sync problem is that rigth |
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| 10:12.22 | bora | did you check local time settings and go back to bios check system clock |
| 10:12.30 | shellclear | rant: Its a great question, IDK... |
| 10:14.04 | shellclear | bora: http://paste.debian.net/1086760/ |
| 10:18.28 | bora | shellclear: is it correct time zone because of I live in Turkey and rigth now it is 13:18 Turkish time |
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| 10:19.38 | bora | I guess it id impossible to this time you need to check hw clock set properly which is in the bios |
| 10:20.05 | han-solo | tcpdump manpage -> Note that captures on the ``any'' device will not be done in promiscuous mode. |
| 10:20.34 | han-solo | Is there any documentation on how `any` works ? |
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| 10:23.21 | shellclear | bora: I adjust hwclock to utc time, I think now is right |
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| 10:23.39 | shellclear | bora: hwclock -> 2019-06-07 10:22:39.061036+0200 date command -> vie jun 7 12:22:40 CEST 2019 |
| 10:24.21 | shellclear | utc +2 |
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| 10:44.36 | Lope | Is there any reason to run a new version of syncthing (1.1.4) vs 0.14.18 ? :) (smileyface cos it seems like a ridiculous question) |
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| 10:45.45 | annadane | i mean what are your needs, generally with software in debian you start with "does this do what i want" and if no, start exploring other options |
| 10:47.46 | Lope | annadane, sync data, so I have an offsite copy of it. |
| 10:48.18 | Lope | But I figure most likely the new version will be nicer to use. Especially since it has a web GUI |
| 10:48.30 | annadane | no, fair enough. i shouldn't lecture you |
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| 10:49.30 | tds | ,v syncthing |
| 10:49.32 | judd | Package: syncthing on amd64 -- stretch: 0.14.18+dfsg1-2+b1; stretch-backports: 0.14.37+ds1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.0.0~ds1-1+b10; sid: 1.0.0~ds1-1+b10 |
| 10:49.32 | Lope | lecture me on? |
| 10:49.56 | Lope | potential security issues with running the current version? |
| 10:49.57 | annadane | you asked a legitimate question and i wasn't really being helpful |
| 10:50.31 | tds | Lope: using the current version in the repos for whatever debian release you're on (see the output there for exact version numbers) would seem sensible |
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| 11:02.28 | annadane | 90% of people using debian stable probably only "need" the default repository versions |
| 11:02.45 | annadane | with one or two backported/compiled packages |
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| 11:06.19 | annadane | or flatpaks/appimages/whatever |
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| 12:01.34 | simulant | hey can anyone help me out. I have an old Mac PowerBook G4 which is 32bit PPC, obviously debian no longer supports 32PPC but I found this link to a version 9 port: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/9.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ |
| 12:01.42 | simulant | is this real??? |
| 12:02.25 | simulant | hey can anyone help me out. I have an old Mac PowerBook G4 which is 32bit PPC, obviously debian no longer supports 32PPC but I found this link to a version 9 port: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/9.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ |
| 12:02.28 | simulant | is this real??? |
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| 12:02.41 | simulant | sorry didn't mean to post twice there!! sorry |
| 12:04.17 | simulant | what does "tier 2 support only" mean - as a link on another site to that above link says it is tier2 only...?? |
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| 12:09.44 | no_such_user | Wotcha, anyone know about debians resolv.conf handling? Mines suddenly become a dangling symlink with the obvious implications but I cant work out who's respnsible for managing it in debian-land? |
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| 12:13.40 | diogenes_ | no_such_user, resolve.conf has always been a symlink as far as i remember. |
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| 12:14.24 | no_such_user | diogenes_, Oh sure, but someones removed it's target so it's now dangling and I'm not sure who's responsible for createinng / maintaining the target? |
| 12:14.43 | no_such_user | (as nothing seems to want to do so at the moment!) |
| 12:15.45 | diogenes_ | no_such_user, someone removed /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf? |
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| 12:16.15 | no_such_user | diogenes_, Exactly... |
| 12:16.22 | diogenes_ | nice |
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| 12:17.05 | no_such_user | diogenes_, I think it happened when I was doing an apt upgrade from 9.5 to 9.9 ... |
| 12:17.23 | diogenes_ | grab it from a live iso and put it back. |
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| 12:19.51 | no_such_user | diogenes_, but its an auto-generated file right? |
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| 12:20.33 | diogenes_ | Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf |
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| 13:02.52 | wwilliam | how to install remmina in 9? |
| 13:03.40 | jelly | !stretch-backports |
| 13:03.40 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in the stretch-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>. |
| 13:03.42 | jelly | wwilliam: ^ |
| 13:04.04 | jelly | the build that actually works is only in backports repo |
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| 13:06.44 | wwilliam | Thanks |
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| 13:12.08 | wwilliam | jelly: after installing remove the backports repo? |
| 13:12.43 | greycat | nah, might as well keep it |
| 13:12.53 | wwilliam | ok |
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| 13:17.34 | hmpf1 | !bdo |
| 13:17.34 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <stretch backports>) and oldstable (<jessie backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 13:31.02 | jelly | wwilliam: keep it in case of updates. No additional packages get updated from there, only those you manually asked for at least once. |
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| 13:39.25 | Haxxa | Hi Guys, I'm running Debian Host with KVM guests. What is the best way to detect if a kernel panic has occurred on the guest? (Happening due to usb passthrough timing issue); I want an email sent to me so I can quickly fix the issue and in general monitor the status of Guests automatically? |
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| 13:41.01 | ksk | Haxxa: I dont think you really can, at last not inside the guest.. |
| 13:41.52 | ksk | you could make a "is the service X in guest Y reachable"-script, and trigger a reset based on that - but it could be error-prone and lead to side-effects (like a reset loop, if you forgot some things..) |
| 13:42.14 | ksk | or, a reset if you just took the service down ;) |
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| 13:42.48 | ksk | Haxxa: monitoring (and an OPS-team) would be the sane approach I would think.. |
| 13:43.39 | Haxxa | Yeah I will be monitoirng from the host, I just want something more elegant than pinging the guest every minute or so... |
| 13:44.12 | greycat | well, like... what would you do if it were a physical server that sometimes crashes? |
| 13:44.51 | Haxxa | run it in a vm so it can be monitored remotely |
| 13:45.23 | ksk | you can monitor physical hardware remotely, does not really have anything to do with VMfoo. |
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| 13:50.09 | Haxxa | Does mailx usually work or is it blocked generally by the ISP when sending an email> |
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| 13:51.02 | greycat | mailx is just the command-line interface to inject messages into your local MTA. If you want your MTA to be able to send outgoing mail to other hosts, then it may or may not be blocked by your ISP, and your sending host may or may not be blocked by the recipient host. |
| 13:51.46 | Haxxa | ok I don't think it has made it that far mailx is just frozen at a blinking cursor |
| 13:52.33 | greycat | That sounds like you have no idea how to use it. If you didn't redirect or pipe something to stdin, it's waiting for you to type the body of the message and then end with Ctrl-D on a new line. |
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| 13:52.56 | Haxxa | mailx -s "Failed ping targets" john.smith@gmail.com |
| 13:53.10 | greycat | then it's waiting for you to type the body |
| 13:54.25 | ksk | Haxxa: 'echo test123 | mail -s "test321" foo@domain.tld' would be a pattern.. |
| 13:54.52 | greycat | in that one, "test123" is the body |
| 13:55.56 | Haxxa | so they are not making it how would I go about debugging this I guess step 1 would be to check if I can get out of my network through the port... |
| 13:56.25 | greycat | Which MTA are you using? exim4? |
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| 13:56.45 | ksk | Haxxa: are you positive you setup your server to send mail to $internet? if exim4, you could do that via "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" for example. |
| 13:56.46 | greycat | though in general, you could try stuff like "cd /var/log; ls -lartd *mail*" |
| 13:57.05 | greycat | see if there are recently-modified log files, and read what they say |
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| 13:58.02 | Haxxa | connect to alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.20.27]:25: Connection timed out |
| 13:58.08 | Haxxa | port 25 must be blocked |
| 13:58.22 | greycat | Could be, yes. You can try with "telnet 74.125.20.27 25" and see what happens. |
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| 13:59.12 | Haxxa | greycat, whose IP address is that? |
| 13:59.27 | greycat | the one you just gave us |
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| 13:59.40 | Haxxa | It faileds |
| 13:59.43 | Haxxa | *failed |
| 13:59.45 | greycat | Failed how? |
| 14:00.04 | Haxxa | Endlessly stuck Trying... |
| 14:00.20 | Haxxa | and my ISP says it blocks Port 25 |
| 14:00.20 | greycat | Yeah, sounds like your router/firewall/ISP is dropping packets. |
| 14:00.28 | Haxxa | so yeah.... |
| 14:01.33 | ksk | Haxxa: if ISP is "home internet" in this case, I think this is normal (this way ISPs try to reduce outgoing spam in their networks) - if its rather a hosted server, I would talk to your provider ;) |
| 14:02.01 | ksk | might be you could also ask your home ISP to whitelist you somehow, not sure.. |
| 14:03.11 | Haxxa | If your external mail server supports ports 587 or 465, you can use these, as we arenât blocking those ports. |
| 14:04.12 | greycat | Those are the ports for "mail submission", which means you are a customer of this mail service and you are using them to send for you. |
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| 14:04.23 | Haxxa | If you still require outgoing port 25 access, please contact our Support line to upgrade to our Business ($49 extra includes Static IP address). |
| 14:04.37 | han-solo | Yay! |
| 14:04.42 | Haxxa | okay so I'm out of luck |
| 14:04.57 | ksk | Haxxa: you would need a static IP-Address anyways to (successfully) send E-Mail to any resonable provider. |
| 14:05.01 | greycat | yeah, you're going to need to switch to their more expensive plan, or use an outside mail host/service |
| 14:05.31 | Haxxa | I just wanted to send an email when a VM stopped responding to PING requests :/ |
| 14:06.20 | gjuric | you can setup postfix/exim to connect to your outside email provider with username password and send emails through them |
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| 14:06.40 | greycat | does gmail have any way for you to use them as a mail submission host? |
| 14:06.51 | greycat | or, do you have any other mail service providers besides gmail? |
| 14:07.03 | Haxxa | nah I will leave it for now I can monitor it manually |
| 14:07.10 | gjuric | of course, every email provides has it, otherwise you wouldn't be able to send emails with an email client |
| 14:07.20 | Haxxa | Its now morning and I have work tomorrow |
| 14:07.24 | greycat | some of them may be web-browser-only |
| 14:07.35 | gjuric | simplest setup is to install nullmailer |
| 14:07.56 | gjuric | enter emails providers address/username/password and you are done |
| 14:08.06 | ksk | greycat: I think even gmail (up to now) still offers SMTP access ;) |
| 14:08.18 | Haxxa | not any good email service, they would fail really quickly in the market - if email doesn't work with outlook or thunderbird no buiness would use them |
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| 14:09.10 | greycat | I promise you, there is a HUGE market of people who only access their email by clicking a hotmail link or whatever. |
| 14:09.20 | Haxxa | I don't know why but it makes me really angry when my ISP says what I can and cannot do with my Internet connection I pay for. |
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| 14:09.38 | Haxxa | greycat, sure but not buinesses |
| 14:09.43 | gjuric | that has been standard for years across the globe |
| 14:09.59 | greycat | If you want to be angry, be angry at the spammers who made this happen. |
| 14:10.07 | Haxxa | I am |
| 14:10.08 | gjuric | you can thank all the infected machines people are running in their homes that were trying to relay emails |
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| 14:11.21 | Haxxa | In fairness the IP Camera I bought from kmart came with a botnet preinstalled and has hard coded password = "password", it lives happily on vlan now, but still generates so much traffic to .ru sites and china |
| 14:11.41 | Haxxa | these are all dropped ofcourse |
| 14:11.46 | ksk | dafuq. |
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| 14:12.03 | Haxxa | SC10IP - $11 1080P Camera |
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| 14:12.17 | ksk | kmart indicates US? I think in the EU this would be against some (newly created) laws.. |
| 14:12.27 | Haxxa | Australia |
| 14:12.34 | Haxxa | and yes its illegal I presume |
| 14:12.56 | ksk | you mean its illegal to not send the data to your law enforcment agencies? ;) |
| 14:12.56 | Haxxa | but I don't think anyone cares tbh, the product works and niche product so ... |
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| 14:13.54 | Lope | tell me if this is a dumb idea... if I want syncthing to sync my root filesystem as a backup to another machine, the obvious solution would be to run syncthing as root. But what about if I bind-mount the root filesystem as read-only into an unprivledged LXC container, that should work, and be more secure, right? |
| 14:15.19 | _2E0LNX | Is there anyone present that can help me with an enquiry about Debianiased haproxy package? |
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| 14:17.23 | ksk | _2E0LNX: dont ask to ask, just ask your (debian related) question. |
| 14:18.38 | ksk | btw, packages should come with a "/usr/share/doc/$pkg/README.debian" - which explains changes done in contrast to upstream. |
| 14:18.50 | greycat | many do, but not all |
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| 14:22.37 | EdePopede | same for debtags which i'd consider even more important. btw, is there a coordinated effort to add them to all of the 40k+ packages? |
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| 14:27.13 | _2E0LNX | Well, I've sussed out what the 'issue' is, the .cfg file doesn't like space indentation method that every other version of haproxy I've used works with, works fine once I've put tabs in!!! |
| 14:27.23 | greycat | fun |
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| 14:29.43 | jelly | _2E0LNX: which haproxy package version is that? |
| 14:30.12 | _2E0LNX | jelly: both stable and testing |
| 14:30.18 | _2E0LNX | 1.7 / 1.8 |
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| 14:31.17 | jelly | I mean the exact package versions. |
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| 14:31.59 | _2E0LNX | jelly: haproxy 1.8.19-1 |
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| 14:35.32 | jelly | don't have any haproxy running on buster right now |
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| 14:37.18 | joshinct | Is Debian PPC still a doable thing? The #debianppc room is dead quiet and Iâve seen mixed reports online about the project status. I ask because Iâve got an ancient G3 iBook that Iâm trying to rehab into something the kids can use. Basically I just want it to run LXDE with some educational programs and typing tutor software. Nothing fancy. If I can get it running, Iâll basically unplug it from the internet forever. So long-term maintenance isnât |
| 14:37.19 | joshinct | issue. |
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| 14:37.20 | _2E0LNX | waaaaaait a minute... we've some daft conversion thing that parses the config and puts tabs in!! |
| 14:37.38 | _2E0LNX | I'm going to find someone and insert a size 9 somehwere... |
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| 14:38.25 | jelly | joshinct: might want to try installing something like debian 7, maybe 8 |
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| 14:39.36 | joshinct | jelly: How would I go about that, given that D7 is past end-of-cycle? Is there a repo somewhere that still offers it, frozen in time? |
| 14:39.38 | jelly | but it's probably easier to get a refurb 4-5yr old PC running. |
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| 14:40.49 | joshinct | jelly: Yeah, Iâm with you. And Iâll probably end up doing that. This one is a discarded lab computer that basically never got used. Itâs still in great shape, so while itâs horribly out of date I hesitate to just junk it. |
| 14:41.07 | jelly | joshinct: installers under https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ mirror under http://archive.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 14:41.36 | rtagro | hi i have debian wheezy, and i cant do package update |
| 14:41.43 | joshinct | jelly: Thanks! Good to know. Iâll look into it. |
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| 14:42.30 | jelly | !wheezy sources.list |
| 14:42.30 | dpkg | Debian 7 "wheezy" is archived. A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for wheezy has one line: «deb http://archive.debian.org/debian wheezy main». Be sure to run «apt-get update». Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and «man sources.list». |
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| 14:42.45 | jelly | (wheezy = debian 7) |
| 14:43.47 | jelly | rtagro: consider making a fresh installation of debian 9 or even buster (soon to be debian 10) and migrating users, services and data |
| 14:44.06 | jmcnaught | joshinct: maybe also check out https://www.ports.debian.org/ which links to CD images for powerpc for Debian 9 (note that ports aren't officially supported however) |
| 14:44.29 | jelly | rtagro: or after you do whatever you need to do on debian 7, prepare and do a release upgrade from 7 to 8, then from 8 to 9 |
| 14:44.39 | at0m | but neither is wheezy supported anymore |
| 14:44.53 | jelly | rtagro: or pay the Extended LTS team to support wheezy packages you actively use. |
| 14:45.04 | jelly | at0m: not by Debian. |
| 14:45.11 | jelly | !elts |
| 14:45.11 | dpkg | Limited commercial support for wheezy exists in form of Extended LTS, see https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Extended and https://deb.freexian.com/extended-lts/ |
| 14:45.16 | at0m | oh, cool |
| 14:45.26 | joshinct | jmcnaught: This looks promising, thank you!! |
| 14:45.43 | jelly | oh right, powerpc arch is gone |
| 14:46.11 | at0m | got an old G5 from a friend the other week. ppc, too i guess |
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| 14:46.29 | Merci | commercial isin $me |
| 14:46.50 | Merci | why the hell you bother me |
| 14:49.06 | Tenkawa | at0m: I still have an old powerbook g5 sitting here |
| 14:49.21 | Tenkawa | its ancient |
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| 14:50.04 | Tenkawa | weighs a ton too |
| 14:50.07 | joshinct | at0m, Tenkawa: One thing Iâve learned is that yaboot is fairly banjaxed at this point. Folks have been having some success with GRUB, though. |
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| 14:50.31 | rtagro | jelly, Thanks, reason why im using wheezey, is because its has linuxcnc. Could I migrate linuxcnc to debian 9 and buster ? sorry for noob question, im new to linux |
| 14:51.01 | Tenkawa | I'll just stick to my Omen |
| 14:51.40 | joshinct | Tenkawa: Fair point. :) |
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| 14:52.05 | Tenkawa | that thing is awesome for its pricepoint |
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| 14:52.57 | jelly | rtagro: I would be VERY careful not to break the software that actually does useful work, and would ask #linuxcnc about supported OS for particular builds |
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| 14:53.53 | jelly | rtagro: (it can almost certainly be done, but it might also require some expert knowledge getting the software and hardware to work correctly) |
| 14:54.08 | joshinct | Tenkawa: Iâve been using work-issued machines for years, so I havenât had to think about buying. But I havenât gotten to think about performance either. |
| 14:55.02 | rtagro | jelly, ohh im no expert lol |
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| 14:55.38 | Tenkawa | joshinct: ahhh... I repair and upgrade indepedently |
| 14:55.51 | Tenkawa | so I have to think about it |
| 14:55.53 | Tenkawa | heeheh |
| 14:56.49 | rtagro | jelly, where can i learn and get more knowlege around these thing ? |
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| 14:58.23 | rtagro | jelly, I have spare laptop, so i might give that a try |
| 14:58.29 | joshinct | Tenkawa: Sounds equal parts awesome and frustrating. |
| 14:58.33 | at0m | Tenkawa: lol indeed weights a ton. long as it works =) got some old gear that is (best) supported on that old macOS, hence my interest |
| 14:58.55 | Tenkawa | joshinct: I love it |
| 14:59.25 | Tenkawa | I really couldnt stand being in an office anymore |
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| 15:00.31 | MTB2019 | Hi, I have instaslled debian 9 and I have no sound in my headphones |
| 15:00.36 | echoSMILE | do I need anything more to allow traffic from port 18000 ? iptables -t filter -A FORWARD -i vlan4 -p udp --sport 18000 -j ACCEPT |
| 15:00.52 | victorqueiroz | Why is it so difficult to get bluetooth speaker working properly on Debian stable? I've to connect and disconnect the thing a few times before it can work properly. |
| 15:01.16 | victorqueiroz | I'd love a suggestion to make it work out of the box. |
| 15:01.27 | jelly | echoSMILE: traffic from where to where? |
| 15:01.44 | Tenkawa | victorqueiroz: define out of the box? |
| 15:01.47 | Tenkawa | .. |
| 15:01.55 | jelly | the speaker IS a box |
| 15:02.26 | Tenkawa | some of th drivers are just restricted and require installation |
| 15:02.32 | victorqueiroz | Tenkawa: Work with A2DP natively without having to be restarting bluetooth deamon everytime I start the computer. |
| 15:02.59 | joshinct | Tenkawa: Thatâs awesome. I like my job, but I end up running linux in a VM most of the time because my computer is IT-managed to death. |
| 15:03.01 | Tenkawa | victorqueiroz: thats just a setting change |
| 15:03.19 | jelly | rtagro: uh, you're basically asking "how do I learn linux" or "how do I learn Debian", including OS bits, package management, in-place upgrades |
| 15:03.50 | Tenkawa | victorqueiroz: let me see if I can look it up |
| 15:03.57 | jelly | rtagro: probably "by doing". Perhaps read Debian Handbook, or look up some online linux courses |
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| 15:04.29 | victorqueiroz | Tenkawa: Works fine after restarting the daemon for some reason. It works ok on Debian Sid, but Debian stable is a problem. |
| 15:05.10 | victorqueiroz | Tenkawa: Not always after I restart, tbh. I have to restart, then disconnect the bluetooth speaker, then connect again then see if it works. If doesn't work after that I restart the bluetooth and repeat the process until it works. |
| 15:05.29 | rtagro | jelly, Thanks |
| 15:05.45 | jelly | victorqueiroz: did you try stable, but with kernel from backports maybe? |
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| 15:06.41 | MTB2019 | Hi, I have instaslled debian 9 and I have no sound in my headphones. Alsamixer looks fine. Any clue ? |
| 15:06.46 | victorqueiroz | jelly: Yes. I've tried it even with experimental kernel (5.x). When I connect the bluetooth speaker I can see the headset on pavucontrol but "A2DP Sink" doesn't get selected. Only after restarting the blueetooth daemon a few times. |
| 15:07.58 | petn-randall | MTB2019: Does sound work via loudspeakers or so? |
| 15:08.03 | jelly | victorqueiroz: eh. Debian does not seem to put a lot of priority on making those components work reliably |
| 15:08.14 | at0m | MTB2019: no mutes in alsamixer? does alsamixer show your card or just pulseaudio? F6 to select your card |
| 15:08.45 | Tenkawa | victorqueiroz: has this been after reboots or sleep/hibernate? |
| 15:08.53 | MTB2019 | petn-randall: i have no loudspears at all |
| 15:09.09 | MTB2019 | at0m: no mutes iin alsamixer, everything is set to max |
| 15:09.29 | victorqueiroz | Tenkawa: No, after I start the system I have to do that everytime. |
| 15:10.01 | victorqueiroz | MTB2019: It's been a long time since I don't have problems with sound on Debian 9. Can I see a picture of your alsamixer configuration |
| 15:10.16 | at0m | MTB2019: that on a pc, not laptop, right? plugged into the right port? frontpanel or rear? usually green port for output. and frontpanel might not be connected internally |
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| 15:10.45 | petn-randall | MTB2019: I'd guess that a pulseaudio settings are also relevant. |
| 15:11.07 | at0m | MTB2019: ^^just some idea's. and your alsamixer does show the physical soundcard, right? |
| 15:11.14 | at0m | ie. not pulseaudio |
| 15:11.24 | petn-randall | MTB2019: You should actually only change things in pulseaudio. You can do that with `pavucontrol`. |
| 15:11.34 | at0m | petn-randall: oh ok |
| 15:11.43 | humpled | idea's :o |
| 15:11.50 | Tenkawa | is afk.. |
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| 15:12.23 | at0m | humpled: yes, thanks for trying to help, too =) |
| 15:14.53 | MTB2019 | victorqueiroz: https://i.paste.pics/5084da14754646d7718fb2603a2fc63f.png |
| 15:15.18 | MTB2019 | victorqueiroz: this.... https://i.paste.pics/adc7b3762a406f4bdcbadbb09b5efd27.png |
| 15:15.53 | MTB2019 | at0m: yes my alsamixer does show the sound card |
| 15:15.58 | at0m | ok |
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| 15:19.31 | joshinct | Tenkawa, at0m: FYI, I found someone in #debianppc. Turns out Ubuntu 16.04, still in LTS, has a PPC installer. |
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| 15:20.23 | at0m | joshinct: oh cool! might try, if the macOS doesn't achieve what i needed it for |
| 15:20.46 | MTB2019 | petn-randall: i used the pavucontrol and selected headphones as output device. now it works. thanks guys!! |
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| 15:21.32 | petn-randall | MTB2019: wohoo! \o/ |
| 15:21.44 | petn-randall | You're welcome, glad I could help! |
| 15:22.34 | joshinct | at0m: Iâm thrilled. Iâve been trying to install Gentoo and their PPC manual is, shall we say, out of date in some key respects. Which wouldnât be so badâIâm all about trial and errorâwere it not for the fact that compile times on the G3 are astronomical. Took nearly 48 hours to compile the kernel. |
| 15:23.16 | greycat | installing gentoo from source on an ancient machine sounds like torture |
| 15:23.21 | at0m | ^ |
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| 15:24.57 | joshinct | greycat: God, yes. When I finally went to boot, turns out the yaboot boot loader recommended on page 1 of the Gentoo PPC manual doesnât support ext4 (which was also recommended on page 1 as being compatible). |
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| 15:25.39 | joshinct | The convoluted partitioning scheme for yaboot is such that itâs nearly impossible to swap the boot loader for Grub after-the-fact. And even if I did, Iâd have to recompile the kernel because the the /etc/fstab file under which I originally compiled the kernel didnât include a boot partition, since yaboot doesnât require one but grub does. |
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| 15:28.33 | joshinct | I could go on, but I think I should spare you. |
| 15:30.53 | jelly | joshinct: crosscompiling is a thing these days. |
| 15:32.21 | joshinct | jelly: After the first fail, I set up a qemu PPC VM. Plan to turn it into a binary host for the G3 if the ubuntu install doesnât work out. |
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| 15:33.47 | joshinct | Though Iâve never set up a binhost before, let alone one turned a VM into one. So I feel like thatâs going to be its own painful process if/when I get there. |
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| 15:41.51 | Iarfen | hi! |
| 15:42.03 | Iarfen | all the files inside init.d are executed at the start of the OS? |
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| 15:42.16 | petn-randall | no |
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| 15:42.58 | greycat | Iarfen: init stuff depends on which version of Debian you're using and which init system. The 2 most recent versions of Debian use systemd by default. |
| 15:43.08 | tw | does VBoxGuest work in Wayland? |
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| 15:43.36 | petn-randall | but also sysv init doesn't execute all files inside init.d. |
| 15:44.17 | greycat | Iarfen: we can go into detail, but we have to know which init system to describe |
| 15:44.48 | greycat | Iarfen: "ls -ld /sbin/init" might be a good starting point if you don't already know which one it is |
| 15:44.49 | Iarfen | how I can know which init system is being used? |
| 15:45.20 | tw | Iarfen: ls -l /sbin/init |
| 15:45.25 | tw | should give you a pretty good idea |
| 15:45.25 | Iarfen | it says systemd |
| 15:45.26 | greycat | if it's a symlink to /lib/systemd/systemd then it's systemd |
| 15:45.52 | diogenes_ | or pid 1 |
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| 15:46.59 | tw | pid 1 will show up as /sbin/init on a debian system. I guess you could lsof -p 1, but it's a lot easier to check the symlink. |
| 15:47.40 | greycat | systemd doesn't run services sequentially. It has a dependency tree, where each service has various prereqs that must be started first. Wherever possible, it will run things all at once. |
| 15:48.46 | greycat | "systemctl list-units -t service" will show you the services that are in use currently |
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| 15:54.07 | kreyren | how do i set preference from nvidia proprietary to nouveau on debian buster? |
| 15:54.15 | kreyren | or like what is the debian way to do it? |
| 15:54.38 | greycat | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-1.html is also a resource that you might find helpful for learning systemd |
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| 15:56.38 | annadane | kreyren, update-alternatives --config glx |
| 15:56.48 | miskatonic | can't drivers be blacklisted? |
| 15:56.56 | greycat | modules can, yes |
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| 15:59.52 | kreyren | annadane, doesn't seem to show nouveau https://pastebin.com/raw/DcLCeaWT |
| 16:00.09 | annadane | you're already on nouveau; it's mesa |
| 16:01.49 | kreyren | annadane, i need to reboot for it to take effect or? |
| 16:01.54 | annadane | yes |
| 16:02.00 | kreyren | ah, ty |
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| 16:04.28 | kreyren | How does debian handles ACPI devices? Do i need to parse `acpi_os_name="Microsoft Windows NT"` in grub.cfg or ? |
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| 16:07.40 | rany | kreyren, It depends if you have a buggy BIOS... |
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| 16:08.12 | rany | but if you have to pass it in /etc/default/grub in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX |
| 16:08.42 | tw | Couldn't figure out the rescaling thing in wayland, switched session type back to x11. |
| 16:09.04 | tw | *resizing, not rescaling |
| 16:09.18 | kreyren | i never saw a fans spinning on this system running linux and it had overheating issues on gentoo minimal CD.. or is there FOSS BIOS that i can flash on ASUS ROG G750JS? |
| 16:10.08 | kreyren | is using backup of a backup since he cut off PSU cables and is out of flux to fix it |
| 16:11.02 | rany | kreyren, FOSS BIOSes are only available on really old hardware and chromebooks... Not exactly high end like your ASUS laptop... |
| 16:11.23 | rany | Seems like a gaming laptop... Most FOSS BIOSes are for ThinkPads |
| 16:11.30 | kreyren | welp o.o |
| 16:11.35 | tw | kreyren: there might be a power management service you need to install. |
| 16:11.46 | kreyren | parsing said string to kernel cmdline should be sufficient then right? |
| 16:11.51 | rany | kreyren, you can try installing thermald |
| 16:11.57 | rany | if you haven't already |
| 16:11.59 | azeem | you can play perfectly play frozen bubble on ThinkPads so saying they are no gaming laptops, pah! |
| 16:12.03 | azeem | -play |
| 16:12.04 | jelly | kreyren: debian's kernel passes Linux as OS. If your ACPI firmware does not acknowledge that, you see something like this in dmesg: |
| 16:12.08 | jelly | [ 0.045359] ACPI: [Firmware Bug]: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored |
| 16:12.09 | kreyren | thermald installed |
| 16:12.40 | kreyren | jelly confirmed : http://ix.io/1L9o |
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| 16:13.30 | rany | kreyren, well, maybe try updating BIOS on Windows |
| 16:13.38 | jelly | it also looks like you don't have latest CPU microcode installed (which probably has nothing to do with this issue) |
| 16:13.45 | rany | if you haven't tried that... Maybe stock firmware has a bug :/ |
| 16:13.54 | kreyren | jelly, more info? |
| 16:14.07 | rany | kreyren, install intel-microcode |
| 16:14.12 | jelly | kreyren: enable non-free sources, and install ^ |
| 16:14.19 | jelly | !non-free sources |
| 16:14.19 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 16:14.25 | kreyren | got it |
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| 16:14.52 | rany | should also help with performance... MDS mitigation slows down your PC alot if you don't have new ucode |
| 16:14.56 | kreyren | i updated it like 9 months ago before i switched it on linux o.o so doubt it has fix for linux >.> |
| 16:15.12 | rany | without new ucode you would be using software mitigation which is very slow |
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| 16:18.17 | kreyren | how much lines does average bios has? it not a lot right? o.o |
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| 16:18.31 | rany | kreyren, what do you mean? |
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| 16:19.09 | kreyren | rany, thinking about methods to fix this issue assuming that parsing ` acpi_os_name="Microsoft Windows NT"` is not sufficient? |
| 16:20.11 | greycat | Fix what issue? Why are you "parsing" anything? |
| 16:20.34 | kreyren | greycat, http://ix.io/1L9o since the fans are not spinning |
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| 16:20.59 | tw | kreyren: why don't you go into the bios setup and see if there's an option to do thermal management without OS support? |
| 16:21.12 | kreyren | tw, was there nothing alike present |
| 16:21.38 | greycat | did you install/update the intel-microcode package and reboot? |
| 16:21.48 | kreyren | didn't reboot yet, |
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| 16:22.27 | kreyren | is rebooting |
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| 16:23.40 | rany | kreyren, also try adding acpi_osi="Windows 2018" to kernel parameters |
| 16:23.49 | rany | it should spoof as windows 10 |
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| 16:25.28 | kreyren | greycat, dmesg output same issue after reboot with intel-microcode and swap on nouveau |
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| 16:25.47 | greycat | it still says "TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update microcode to version: 0x22 (or later)"? |
| 16:26.23 | kreyren | ah mb im blind http://ix.io/1L9q |
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| 16:26.51 | greycat | OK, I don't understand those two yet. |
| 16:27.24 | kreyren | rebooting to verify that acpi_os was parsed in grub |
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| 16:27.50 | greycat | they keep using that word "parsed"... |
| 16:28.05 | greycat | seems like they think it means "took effect" |
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| 16:28.32 | jelly | kreyren: show thw whole dmesg. |
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| 16:28.49 | kreyren | jelly, http://ix.io/1L9r |
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| 16:29.12 | kreyren | using ` acpi_os_name="Microsoft Windows NT"` atm |
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| 16:29.25 | kreyren | sourced on https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DSDT |
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| 16:29.46 | usr123_ | Hi, I'm trying to install debian. None of the mirrors are accessible, while `Configure a package manager` |
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| 16:30.00 | rany | kreyren, I think you should try acpi_osi="Windows 2015" |
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| 16:30.02 | somiaj | usr123_: what network card are you using? |
| 16:30.04 | rany | without acpi_os_name |
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| 16:30.07 | kreyren | rany, trying |
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| 16:30.17 | kreyren | rany, why btw? |
| 16:30.21 | somiaj | usr123_: did you get an error about missing firmware or something like that? Or do you have a proxy or something that would keep you from connecting to the mirrors? |
| 16:31.19 | kreyren | acpi_osi="Windows 2015" - Parsed in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 16:31.36 | kreyren | is rebooting |
| 16:32.05 | rany | kreyren, sometimes firmware may not make devices work if linux is running |
| 16:32.21 | greycat | rany: you need to work on your timing |
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| 16:32.43 | rany | greycat, what do you mean? |
| 16:32.44 | kreyren | still getting http://ix.io/1L9u |
| 16:32.56 | greycat | rany: you keep telling kreyren things after they leave |
| 16:33.04 | kreyren | o.o |
| 16:33.05 | usr123_ | somiaj: Nope, no proxy |
| 16:33.11 | jelly | kreyren: I think you should quote things properly in /etc/default/grub to get acpi_osi="Foo Bar" to kernel instead of "acpi_osi=Foo Bar", and what does "Parsed" mean in "Parsed in /boot/grub/grub.cfg" |
| 16:33.18 | kreyren | yep no server to log messages set yet sorry >.> |
| 16:33.21 | rany | kreyren, What do you by parsed? |
| 16:33.24 | usr123_ | I have ethernet cable plugged in to the laptop I'm trying to install debian on |
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| 16:33.47 | kreyren | rany, editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg with vim |
| 16:34.01 | rany | kreyren, You should edit /etc/default/grub instead and then update-grub |
| 16:34.14 | kreyren | why? it does the same thing afaik |
| 16:34.29 | rany | kreyren, When grub updates your edits are lost because `update-grub` is run automatically |
| 16:34.30 | somiaj | no, your edits in grub.cfg will be erarsed next time a kernel is updated. |
| 16:34.36 | jelly | because your manual changes to grub.cfg will get overwritten |
| 16:34.41 | greycat | It's not the same thing. Your changes to /boot/grub will be overwritten the next time update-grub is run, e.g. on an apt-get upgrade. |
| 16:34.44 | rany | kreyren, I mean during kernel updates or grub... |
| 16:34.49 | kreyren | ah i see, doing the /etc/default/grub |
| 16:34.59 | jelly | wonders what drugs he's been on |
| 16:35.01 | jelly | #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='syscall.x32=y resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/2b0d4690-ac05-4826-965e-7caf75525db1 vsyscall=emulate acpi_osi="Windows 2006" acpi_osi="Windows 2009" acpi_osi="Windows 2012"' |
| 16:35.36 | jelly | note single quotes around the whole thing, and double quotes for acpi_osi="" |
| 16:35.38 | rany | kreyren, remember to run `update-grub` afterwards |
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| 16:35.43 | kreyren | sufficient? |
| 16:35.44 | kreyren | http://ix.io/1L9v |
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| 16:36.35 | jelly | insufficient. |
| 16:36.39 | rany | jelly, Unsure if one should escape these double quotes? |
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| 16:36.59 | kreyren | yep fails with double quotes, fixed with http://ix.io/1L9w |
| 16:37.02 | jelly | one could, but using ' around the whole value is easier |
| 16:37.02 | greycat | By the way, the word "parse" means "to extract meaning from symbols". Like, reading a sentence and understanding the subject, the verb, and ultimately what the sentence means. |
| 16:37.22 | rany | kreyren, NO |
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| 16:37.27 | kreyren | rany, what? |
| 16:37.41 | kreyren | greycat, noted |
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| 16:37.53 | rany | kreyren, Wrong, do this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"" |
| 16:38.04 | rany | WAIT WHAT |
| 16:38.07 | rany | IGNORE |
| 16:38.12 | kreyren | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Windows 2015" ? |
| 16:38.14 | kreyren | o.o |
| 16:38.16 | jelly | rany: that ought to work |
| 16:38.38 | rany | jelly, Which one? |
| 16:38.40 | kreyren | shoudn't it be`Windows\ 2015` ? |
| 16:38.40 | jelly | because update-grub is basically a shell script that sources /e/d/grub |
| 16:38.49 | greycat | I don't see any reason to prefer "x=\"y\"" over 'x="y"' but they are both valid shell |
| 16:38.50 | jelly | rany: what you wrote. |
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| 16:39.04 | rany | jelly, A read the wrong line... Nevermind :D |
| 16:39.09 | rany | I need sleep :/ |
| 16:39.17 | jelly | greycat: esp. since noone does $var expansion in /e/d/grub |
| 16:39.20 | kreyren | http://ix.io/1L9x in grub.cfg |
| 16:39.48 | jelly | not good |
| 16:39.57 | rany | kreyren, hmm, did you `update-grub2`? |
| 16:40.03 | kreyren | `update-grub` |
| 16:40.05 | rany | are you manually editing it |
| 16:40.15 | kreyren | nope i used update-grub now |
| 16:40.26 | rany | kreyren, they are both the same... I think `update-grub` is a link to `update-grub2` BTW |
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| 16:40.39 | kreyren | `bash: update-grub2: command not found` |
| 16:40.44 | somiaj | kreyren: I missed the actual issue, but just double checking your bios/firmawre doesn't have an option of os type. The ones I'm famialr with usually have a windows/non windows os toggle that affects acpi stuff. |
| 16:40.51 | kreyren | ah mb i didn't invoke it as root since it's in sbin |
| 16:41.04 | kreyren | rany confirmed update-grub{2,} beeing the same thing |
| 16:41.21 | kreyren | somiaj, it doesnt i check already |
| 16:41.32 | somiaj | okay, just double checking. |
| 16:41.38 | kreyren | somiaj, this is the issue http://ix.io/1L9u |
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| 16:42.21 | somiaj | and I assume you are actually having issues (not just seeing this line in dmesg) |
| 16:42.33 | kreyren | jelly, you want me to single quote the value of acpi_os or ? |
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| 16:42.53 | rany | kreyren, can you send us your current /etc/default/grub? |
| 16:43.04 | jelly | kreyren: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX='acpi_osi="Windows 2015"' and rerun update-grub and see what happens |
| 16:43.32 | jelly | does not know which OS says it's "Windows 2015" |
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| 16:43.41 | kreyren | rany http://ix.io/1L9A |
| 16:43.46 | rany | jelly, Windows 10 |
| 16:44.05 | kreyren | if relevant this ntb came with windows 8.1 |
| 16:44.15 | rany | kreyren, this is grub.cfg |
| 16:44.22 | kreyren | rany, mb |
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| 16:44.29 | rany | this looks right |
| 16:44.40 | kreyren | rany, http://ix.io/1L9C |
| 16:45.37 | jelly | looks at all the combinations tested at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:ASUS_E403SA and shakes head |
| 16:46.31 | kreyren | if it helps it doesn't have working keyboard because.. reasons so no need for functional keys xD |
| 16:47.09 | kreyren | i just need it to stop overheating o.o |
| 16:47.12 | rany | if it doesn't have a working keyboard... Does it have a working fan? |
| 16:47.25 | kreyren | rany, it does it spins in bios |
| 16:47.40 | kreyren | only keyboard panel broken |
| 16:47.48 | rany | hdd spinning ;P |
| 16:48.12 | rany | can you check for any firmware updates for it? |
| 16:48.26 | ikus060 | Hello, I'm looking for a secure way to lock down process execution in somekind of sandbox, where the process have read-write access to, but everything else is readonly. Something like chroot, but better ? |
| 16:48.41 | Habbie | ikus060, systemd-nspawn |
| 16:48.50 | kreyren | rany, latest update to bios is 2014/08/13 |
| 16:48.57 | kreyren | rany, based on https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G750JS/HelpDesk_Download/ |
| 16:49.13 | kreyren | which i should have o.o |
| 16:49.30 | kreyren | is thinking if he can build new mobo for this thing |
| 16:49.33 | rany | ikus060, docker, lxd... |
| 16:53.57 | Krennic | <------- using debian xfce |
| 16:54.00 | Krennic | :P |
| 16:54.07 | kreyren | is rebooting |
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| 16:57.16 | kreyren | still same issue http://ix.io/1L9E |
| 16:57.32 | karlpinc | ikus060: man namespace. (And see also the lxc package.) |
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| 16:58.24 | kreyren | mby `acpi_osi=Linux` ? |
| 16:58.30 | jelly | kreyren: but is there a fan now somewhere or not? |
| 16:59.07 | kreyren | jelly, doesnt seem to be spinning while playing rocket league + it seems to run on iGPU assuming 14 FPS |
| 16:59.10 | jelly | anything fan-like under /sys/class/thermal/ ? |
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| 16:59.51 | kreyren | jelly http://ix.io/1L9G |
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| 17:00.23 | rany | kreyren, have you had any success running ubuntu? |
| 17:00.34 | kreyren | just to clerify: it's spinning in bion, grub, init, dm and stops spinning in DE |
| 17:00.39 | kreyren | rany, nope |
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| 17:00.44 | rany | maybe it's a driver problem |
| 17:00.53 | kreyren | rany, elaborate? |
| 17:01.29 | rany | kreyren, debian has old packages maybe newer &stable packages from ubuntu will help |
| 17:02.12 | kreyren | which package do you mean? |
| 17:02.43 | kreyren | rany, running debian buster which should have newer drivers then ubuntu? |
| 17:02.51 | somiaj | at this level it is probably just the kernel, and you could get the 4.19 kernel from stretch-backports which is quite new |
| 17:03.09 | kreyren | 4.19.0-5-amd64 in use |
| 17:03.13 | somiaj | well buster also has 4.19. Unless you know for sure there is some improvement in the newer 5.x kernels, I think y ou are fine. |
| 17:03.24 | rany | somiaj, just careful because dkms will not work if using backports on stable |
| 17:03.50 | jelly | I'm skeptical of 5.x kernel suddently gaining support for a 5+ year old laptop |
| 17:03.53 | kreyren | is could it be something optimus related assuming that games are seemingly running on iGPU ? |
| 17:04.08 | kreyren | is not familiar with debian's kernel |
| 17:04.50 | rany | kreyren, i do have an optimus laptop.. check the bumblebee page on the debian wiki |
| 17:05.02 | rany | bbswitch saves lots power |
| 17:05.07 | jelly | kreyren: grep . /sys/class/thermal/cooling*/???_state |
| 17:05.21 | kreyren | jelly, http://ix.io/1L9H |
| 17:06.21 | jelly | kreyren: does anything happen if you echo 50 into /sys/class/thermal/cooling8/cur_state ? |
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| 17:06.49 | kreyren | jelly, just echo "50" >> /sys/class/thermel/cooling8/cur_state` ? |
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| 17:07.32 | rany | kreyren, or run `echo 50|sudo tee /sys/class/thermal/cooling8/cur_state` |
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| 17:07.56 | kreyren | rany, nothing happend |
| 17:08.01 | kreyren | echo "50" >> /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device8/cur_state |
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| 17:08.15 | kreyren | want me to try push this in all cooling devices? |
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| 17:09.14 | jelly | you could try echoing the appropriate max value into each |
| 17:09.33 | kreyren | what is appropriate max value |
| 17:09.43 | jelly | the one in max_value |
| 17:11.04 | jelly | some of those may make the system VERY slow or change brightness or do other crazy things in hope of making the system less warm |
| 17:11.11 | kreyren | jelly, it parsed 58 in colling device 8 trying to fix it now |
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| 17:11.25 | greycat | that word again |
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| 17:11.51 | kreyren | it's just adding now it's 62 o.o |
| 17:12.06 | jelly | it's doing something, you just don't know what :-) |
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| 17:13.19 | kreyren | cooling_device3 stopped once i parsed 3 into a 0 |
| 17:13.24 | kreyren | stopped for CPU fan |
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| 17:14.00 | usr123 | None of the mirrors work while I'm trying to install debian 9 |
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| 17:14.09 | usr123 | auto configuration for network was successful |
| 17:14.12 | greycat | I think it's like "smurfed". It's a semantically empty string of letters that gets filled in randomly. |
| 17:14.18 | jelly | usr123: which country are you in? |
| 17:14.22 | SpaghettiCat | Hello, I have started using Debian (Stretch). I installed youtube-dl , but it was a version from 2017 which fails to download videos. Could I ask what is the point of having this package, as it needs to be the latest to work with Youtube? |
| 17:14.22 | usr123 | India |
| 17:14.30 | usr123 | I tried mirrors all round the world |
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| 17:15.00 | greycat | usr123: does *networking* work, at all? Are you using the non-free firmware image? Is it a laptop? |
| 17:15.15 | usr123 | greycat: Its a laptop |
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| 17:15.39 | greycat | SpaghettiCat: remove the package and use the upstream version, then. |
| 17:15.48 | usr123 | I rebooted with usb teethering. Earlier, I had ethernet plugged in, and ping google.com didn't work |
| 17:15.59 | usr123 | Although I got a inet addr, and ping to that worked |
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| 17:16.06 | usr123 | Now trying with phone usb teethering |
| 17:16.10 | SpaghettiCat | greycat: Yes, but I'm wondering what's the point of having the package if it doesn't work? I'm trying to understand Debian |
| 17:16.20 | jelly | usr123: switch to shell (Alt-F3?). Does "ping google.com" at least show an IP address? |
| 17:16.24 | greycat | It *worked* at the time stretch released. |
| 17:16.31 | kreyren | usr123, output of `ping 1.1.1.1` is not reachable right ? |
| 17:16.33 | greycat | If it *stopped working* in the meantime, then stop using it. |
| 17:16.47 | jelly | ,v youtube-dl |
| 17:16.48 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- stretch: 2017.05.18.1-1; stretch-backports: 2019.01.17-1.1~bpo9+1; buster: 2019.01.17-1.1; sid: 2019.01.17-1.1; buster-multimedia: 2019.05.20-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 2019.05.20-dmo1 |
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| 17:17.08 | usr123 | usb teethering worked |
| 17:17.13 | usr123 | mirrors are reachable now |
| 17:17.14 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: it takes less work to keep it there nonworking, than to remove it. |
| 17:17.21 | usr123 | and ethernet didnt work by the way |
| 17:17.27 | SpaghettiCat | greycat: Don't packages for Stretch get updated? Or are they all versions from when Stretch was released? |
| 17:17.48 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: in general packages do NOT get newer upstream versions in stable. |
| 17:17.50 | greycat | Only a few very specific packages are allowed to get new upstream versions during the lifetime of a stable release. firefox-esr for example. |
| 17:17.55 | greycat | youtube-dl is not on that list. |
| 17:18.09 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: you can try using the version from |
| 17:18.12 | jelly | !stretch-backports |
| 17:18.12 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Buster (Debian 10) but recompiled for use with Stretch (Debian 9) can be found in the stretch-backports repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . Ask me about <bdo>, <backports>. |
| 17:18.31 | annadane | just install youtube-dl using a virtualenv |
| 17:18.33 | usr123 | Should I use kde? |
| 17:18.40 | usr123 | I've heard its light on RAM and cpu |
| 17:18.41 | jelly | usr123: only if you like kde. |
| 17:18.44 | greycat | I think the exceptions were made for web browsers because of the widespread understanding that all web browers are pieces of shit with millions of security holes that cannot be handled by Debian Security. |
| 17:18.56 | usr123 | jelly: Never worked on it |
| 17:19.01 | usr123 | only used ubuntu gnome |
| 17:19.12 | annadane | and then i have a cronjob running every week /usr/local/youtube-dl/bin/pip install --upgrade youtube-dl && cp /usr/local/youtube-dl/bin/youtube-dl /usr/local/bin |
| 17:19.12 | jelly | usr123: how much RAM does the machine have? |
| 17:19.20 | usr123 | 8 gigs |
| 17:19.35 | SpaghettiCat | I see. I would not include a package if it was going to break next week anyway. I will get the version from upstream, thanks for answering |
| 17:19.47 | jelly | usr123: pick one DE to install now, you can switch to a different one afterwards at any time |
| 17:19.59 | usr123 | do I need a print server? |
| 17:20.05 | jelly | usr123: do you have a printer? |
| 17:20.08 | usr123 | I dont right? I dont have a printer |
| 17:20.12 | jelly | then no |
| 17:20.19 | usr123 | jelly: Thanks |
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| 17:22.00 | Battaglin | lol wth |
| 17:22.58 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: debian's packaging policy is ill-suited for fast-moving software. In an ideal world, the maintainer would track youtube-dl using stable-updates repository. |
| 17:23.51 | greycat | In an ideal world, youtube.com wouldn't be in an arms race against its own users. |
| 17:24.05 | jelly | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 17:24.25 | SpaghettiCat | Yes, and it's an interesting point about browsers being exceptions. Imagine how much manpower it would take to backport security patches on such a huge software! |
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| 17:24.54 | jelly | "full-screen in embeds does not work now, because we're not not evil!" |
| 17:25.14 | jelly | weeks pass, then |
| 17:25.21 | tehnull | youtube-dl works fine? |
| 17:25.40 | greycat | The version in Debian doesn't currently work against the current youtube.com. |
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| 17:25.51 | tehnull | is it something to do with added DRM that's not used outside of the India region |
| 17:25.55 | tehnull | it absolutely does |
| 17:25.56 | jelly | "Watch later button does not work in embeds or rss feeds either! Screw you, use our app so we can track you better!" |
| 17:25.58 | greycat | No, it's everywhere. |
| 17:26.28 | tehnull | http://i.imgur.com/FjGdnFb.png |
| 17:26.37 | jelly | tehnull: the 2017 fails with many (most?) videos, and the 2019.01 fails with live streams AFAIK |
| 17:27.10 | SpaghettiCat | tehnull: Try to download this video, it failed for me: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiB0urt7NfiAhXClosKHeQhCQoQtwIIMTAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dmrcs60BGVjI&usg=AOvVaw1QAykg7SO6BE4VQg-zDEZY |
| 17:27.31 | tehnull | what is that link lol |
| 17:27.32 | jelly | but it's almost trivial to build the package from upstream if you want to |
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| 17:28.06 | SpaghettiCat | it's not a virus don't worry |
| 17:28.10 | tehnull | SpaghettiCat, it's working |
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| 17:28.29 | tehnull | http://i.imgur.com/widhAXJ.png |
| 17:28.48 | annadane | think of debian as being a framework for building a system with the default packages being 6 months or so old at least at release (due to freeze) to 2 1/2 years old near the time of the new stable release, but there's nothing stopping you from running newer stuff; but all this has the advantage of making system administration very simple |
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| 17:28.53 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: that URL works in mpv with youtube-dl 2019.01.17-1.1~bpo9+1 |
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| 17:29.57 | tehnull | works with youtube-dl 2017.05.18.1-1 |
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| 17:30.07 | SpaghettiCat | tehnull: I made a mistake sorry. It's this URL that gives me a token error with the debian stable of youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcs60BGVjI |
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| 17:30.34 | SpaghettiCat | It says "ERROR: mrcs60BGVjI: "token" parameter not in video info for unknown reason;" |
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| 17:31.02 | tw | I have a weekly cron that git-pulls youtube-dl to update to the latest release. |
| 17:31.12 | tehnull | that link works fine here |
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| 17:31.19 | tehnull | I'm not sure what the issue would be |
| 17:31.21 | greycat | I just update if it breaks |
| 17:31.56 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: it reports that message from my home machine, but works at the office, same youtube-dl package from stretch-backports |
| 17:32.07 | SpaghettiCat | tehnull: I also used the flag `-f 18` , maybe the specific format affects it |
| 17:32.16 | tehnull | I used no flags |
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| 17:32.29 | SpaghettiCat | jelly: that's bizarre, why would the same code produce different results? |
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| 17:32.37 | tehnull | youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcs60BGVjI |
| 17:32.40 | tehnull | is all I did |
| 17:32.50 | jelly | tehnull: not the URL they used, tho |
| 17:33.01 | SpaghettiCat | I did `youtube-dl -f 18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcs60BGVjI` and it gives me the token error |
| 17:33.36 | greycat | the obvious answer being that the same youtube.com URL gives different metadata to different clients |
| 17:33.44 | jelly | yep. |
| 17:34.24 | tehnull | SpaghettiCat, that exact command is working for me as well |
| 17:34.59 | SpaghettiCat | strange . But I'm surprised that it works at all, meaning it was able to withstand 2 years of Youtube.com updates :) |
| 17:35.35 | jelly | it broke at least 2-3 times in the last 2-3 years |
| 17:35.50 | tehnull | I wonder if just playing the video in browser while downloading bypasses whatever DRM they've added in that time |
| 17:35.56 | jelly | and that's only for youtube |
| 17:36.10 | tehnull | I'm really dope up on pain meds so please forgive me if I'm not very helpful |
| 17:36.15 | jelly | there's no DRM |
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| 17:36.43 | SpaghettiCat | why even have DRM? youtube-dl can get the video anyhow |
| 17:36.58 | jelly | if there was DRM you would not be able to download anything, no public crack for widevine exists |
| 17:38.21 | SpaghettiCat | I don't think I've ever encountered a DRM'd video. People could just screencapture their screen anyway ha |
| 17:38.59 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: just visit netflix in your browser |
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| 17:41.06 | tw | SpaghettiCat: properly implemented widevine vmp won't let you screencapture. |
| 17:41.24 | SpaghettiCat | impossible! |
| 17:41.43 | SpaghettiCat | I have to read up on how on earth they managed that |
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| 17:42.04 | EdePopede | widevine won't tell the capture program about the content it displays |
| 17:42.21 | EdePopede | iirc it's even easier with hw-acceleration? |
| 17:43.03 | SpaghettiCat | I thought screen capture programs capture what the graphics card tells them is there |
| 17:44.25 | EdePopede | it would need read access, i don't think it has |
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| 17:50.31 | jelly | SpaghettiCat: there's a protected chain going thru gpu and framebuffer and hdmi, on supported OS-es, so grabbing from gpu gets you junk. Unsupported OSes or software don't get full quality streams. |
| 17:50.48 | jelly | AFAIUI |
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| 17:52.09 | EdePopede | some standard for the newer hires video+audio even requests an encrypted chain between optical disk and display |
| 17:52.09 | tw | It makes sure it goes out to the display, but not readable by compositors. |
| 17:52.45 | greycat | you can still point a camera/phone at the screen and capture it analog |
| 17:53.00 | greycat | (at least until the bio-interface comes along) |
| 17:53.23 | tw | For sure. That's a moiré. |
| 17:53.54 | jelly | greycat: some vendors state they have undetectable audio watermarking ;-) |
| 17:54.05 | Habbie | tw, <3 |
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| 17:54.48 | annadane | meanwhile if you make content reasonably priced and freely accessible, you'll actually make money... but no |
| 17:54.50 | SpaghettiCat | jelly: What does protected mean? That the GPU sends a scrambled image and the approved endpoint has the key to descramble the image into something meaningful? Then the screen grabber can be taught to use the same descrambling mechanism |
| 17:56.21 | tw | SpaghettiCat: easiest way is asymmetric key locked to hw device, encrypted stream gets sent to GPU, only GPU-based video decoding occurs, graphics client only tells it where to render. |
| 17:56.23 | EdePopede | SpaghettiCat https://www.androidauthority.com/widevine-explained-821935/ |
| 17:56.37 | tw | But we're getting off topic. |
| 17:56.49 | SpaghettiCat | interesting discussion |
| 17:57.35 | SpaghettiCat | EdePopede, thanks sfor the link, the official site explains nada |
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| 18:31.41 | usr123 | i successfully installed debian, now while booting I see the grub prompt |
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| 18:35.39 | rany | usr123, my guess is that you are booting the old grub loader. Did you install some other distro before hand? |
| 18:35.56 | OS-44957 | !mario |
| 18:35.57 | dpkg | mario is probably the main character in Super Mario Bros. |
| 18:36.08 | OS-44957 | !luigi |
| 18:36.08 | dpkg | somebody said luigi was mean and grean |
| 18:36.12 | usr123 | elementry I was using that |
| 18:36.17 | usr123 | https://www.linux.com/LEARN/HOW-RESCUE-NON-BOOTING-GRUB-2-LINUX |
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| 18:36.33 | annadane | please don't abuse the bot |
| 18:36.34 | usr123 | followed this and now stuck at initranmds |
| 18:36.40 | usr123 | initramfs* |
| 18:36.51 | annadane | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.22 | rany | usr123, try using chainloader and then type boot |
| 18:37.51 | usr123 | whats chainloader? |
| 18:38.06 | rany | usr123, basically a command; |
| 18:38.17 | usr123 | not found |
| 18:38.19 | greycat | it's grub's word for "exec" |
| 18:38.35 | greycat | it's a grub command, not a debian command |
| 18:38.40 | rany | usr123, maybe multiboot ? |
| 18:38.50 | usr123 | sh: chainloader: not found |
| 18:39.02 | usr123 | rany: no I asked debian to use the entire disk |
| 18:39.12 | rany | usr123, wait so you have a shell? |
| 18:39.18 | rany | i thought you were stuck in grub... |
| 18:39.20 | usr123 | yes |
| 18:39.33 | usr123 | (initramfs) |
| 18:39.40 | rany | usr123, can you pastebin the output of efibootmgr? |
| 18:39.40 | usr123 | is what the prompt says |
| 18:39.59 | greycat | that's not grub; that's the initial ram disk after a partial boot |
| 18:40.11 | usr123 | sh: efibootmgr: not found |
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| 18:40.19 | rany | greycat, ah i see... |
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| 18:41.44 | rany | usr123, if you have blkid check if your root is set wrong |
| 18:42.10 | rany | usr123, when you get grub menu entry, press e and keep notice of uuid of root |
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| 18:43.17 | rany | if wrong then use `blkid` and change the uuid of the boot root |
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| 18:45.38 | usr123 | https://imagebin.ca/v/4joGyGqHuv9e |
| 18:46.10 | usr123 | doesnt show a root entry |
| 18:46.34 | rany | usr123, it is /dev/sda2 |
| 18:46.52 | rany | ^ that is root |
| 18:47.22 | usr123 | is it because its type=ext4? |
| 18:47.31 | rany | usr123, yes |
| 18:47.53 | usr123 | ok, what do I do next? |
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| 18:48.23 | rany | usr123, check if grub is using the correct root |
| 18:48.33 | usr123 | how do I do that? |
| 18:49.06 | rany | usr123, when grub loads press e for edit and check if the correct root is set |
| 18:49.11 | usr123 | and probably yes, because I set it while i was in grub using this: https://www.linux.com/LEARN/HOW-RESCUE-NON-BOOTING-GRUB-2-LINUX |
| 18:49.33 | usr123 | rany: So I need to reboot, so I can see grub again? |
| 18:49.55 | rany | yes |
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| 18:50.28 | usr123 | can't find command e |
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| 18:50.59 | greycat | It's not a COMMAND. It's a key that you can press while in the grub menu. |
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| 18:51.05 | rany | usr123, do you see a menu entry? |
| 18:51.19 | usr123 | no |
| 18:51.24 | rany | usr123, something like "Debian GNU/LINUX ..." |
| 18:51.33 | usr123 | I'm sorry, I'm a noob. Thank you for patience |
| 18:51.41 | usr123 | No not really |
| 18:51.53 | rany | usr123, well, can you continue the boot? |
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| 18:52.11 | greycat | If you boot into grub, you should get a menu with at least two options: "Debian GNU/Linux" and "Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux" |
| 18:52.22 | greycat | There may be more options if it's a dual- or multi-boot system. |
| 18:52.32 | usr123 | I typed boot, and it says -> error: you need to load the kernel first |
| 18:52.49 | usr123 | greycat: I see none of that |
| 18:52.55 | rany | usr123, how did you boot and get past the grub prompt the first time? |
| 18:52.55 | greycat | All right, that sounds like you're in grub's command mode. |
| 18:53.03 | usr123 | it just opens up to Gnu GRUB ver 2.02 |
| 18:53.27 | greycat | You have an empty menu? That sounds like there is no grub.cfg file at all, or grub isn't finding it. |
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| 18:53.35 | usr123 | https://www.linux.com/LEARN/HOW-RESCUE-NON-BOOTING-GRUB-2-LINUX using this |
| 18:53.43 | rany | greycat, I believe the elementry grub menu is booting up instead |
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| 18:54.03 | rany | He had elementary OS was installed previously |
| 18:54.21 | usr123 | https://itsfoss.com/fix-minimal-bash-line-editing-supported-grub-error-linux/ something like this is what I am seeing |
| 18:54.39 | rany | usr123, root should be /dev/sda2 |
| 18:55.01 | usr123 | e doesnt work |
| 18:55.06 | usr123 | How do I check that now |
| 18:55.07 | rany | usr123, ignore e |
| 18:55.12 | usr123 | ok |
| 18:55.15 | greycat | "e" is for editing a menu entry. If there are no menu entries.... |
| 18:55.21 | usr123 | how do I check root is set to what? |
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| 18:55.42 | rany | usr123, just do what you have done before and make sure you have something along the lines of `linux /boot/vmli... root=/dev/sda2` |
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| 18:58.47 | usr123 | https://www.linux.com/LEARN/HOW-RESCUE-NON-BOOTING-GRUB-2-LINUX this article is asking me to set root=<where bin vimlinuz files are found> |
| 18:58.53 | usr123 | Should I? |
| 18:59.02 | usr123 | thats how I got out the first time |
| 18:59.16 | rany | usr123, yes but make sure root=/dev/sda2 no matter what |
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| 19:01.40 | usr123 | I'm extremely thankful |
| 19:01.42 | usr123 | :') |
| 19:01.52 | usr123 | Can you please explain what was wrong? |
| 19:02.00 | usr123 | What was going on? |
| 19:02.03 | usr123 | everything? |
| 19:02.11 | greycat | If you managed to boot into full Debian, you will want to run update-grub. |
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| 19:02.31 | greycat | *hopefully* that will fix things so you get the correct grub menu next time |
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| 19:04.11 | rany | usr123, for linux to boot you need initrd which is the base. After initrd boots, it mounts the root filesystem and boots that |
| 19:04.19 | usr123 | update-grub command not found |
| 19:04.30 | greycat | you need to be root |
| 19:04.31 | rany | basically, initrd mounts the root and leaves |
| 19:04.59 | greycat | either by logging in directly as root (console only, not gui), or by using su, or sudo -s |
| 19:05.33 | greycat | (or simply sudo update-grub) |
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| 19:06.33 | usr123 | well, I'm not in the sudoers file |
| 19:06.48 | greycat | then use su |
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| 19:17.29 | usr123 | the earlier grub opened again |
| 19:17.36 | usr123 | I did update-grub as su |
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| 19:18.55 | greycat | if /boot/grub/grub.cfg looks reasonable but grub isn't actually *showing* that menu at boot time, then you may have to do something lower-level, and I may not be the best person to help with that |
| 19:19.36 | usr123 | for now I'm just setting root to /dev/sda2 and running it |
| 19:19.38 | usr123 | it works |
| 19:19.46 | rany | usr123, send the output of `edibootmgr` |
| 19:19.53 | rany | efibootmgr* |
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| 19:23.19 | usr123 | https://imagebin.ca/v/4joSQZCJW2N1 |
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| 19:24.29 | kreyren | looking for software on debian that opens .fz file |
| 19:24.48 | greycat | what does "file" say it is? |
| 19:24.59 | kreyren | G750JS_MB_1.1.fz: data |
| 19:25.20 | kreyren | its schematic to my ASUS notebook mainboard |
| 19:25.56 | greycat | https://fileinfo.com/extension/fz |
| 19:26.18 | greycat | ,v fritzing |
| 19:26.19 | judd | Package: fritzing on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.0b+dfsg-1; stretch: 0.9.3b+dfsg-4; buster: 0.9.3b+dfsg-9; sid: 0.9.3b+dfsg-9 |
| 19:26.31 | kreyren | trying |
| 19:26.32 | greycat | I know nothing about it; just googling and apt-cache searching. |
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| 19:26.50 | usr123_ | https://ibin.co/4joSQZCJW2N1.jpg |
| 19:26.59 | kreyren | results in https://i.imgur.com/zrKSxo5.png |
| 19:27.09 | usr123_ | My country is third world. I lost power |
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| 19:28.33 | samuel | hello guys |
| 19:28.41 | samuel | ive just installed debian sid |
| 19:28.58 | samuel | but I seem to be having a problem with gnome shell |
| 19:29.06 | samuel | it look "pixelated" |
| 19:29.13 | samuel | looks* |
| 19:29.20 | samuel | any ideas why this might be? |
| 19:29.25 | samuel | everything else looks fine |
| 19:29.35 | greycat | does choosing the X session instead of the Wayland session make any difference? |
| 19:29.54 | samuel | hmmmm |
| 19:30.00 | samuel | i need to log out |
| 19:30.04 | samuel | hold on..... |
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| 19:31.47 | samuel | greycat: yes it does |
| 19:32.02 | samuel | everything looks fine, but small |
| 19:32.14 | samuel | (due to the high DPI display I imagine) |
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| 19:32.56 | samuel | greycat: it looked fine in Ubuntu, any ideas as to what might be missing? |
| 19:33.23 | greycat | firmware, drivers (esp if it's nvidia) |
| 19:34.10 | samuel | its a thinkpad with intel integrated graphics |
| 19:34.34 | samuel | its something to do with HiDPI I imagine, since if I set to 100% scaling it looks fine |
| 19:34.51 | samuel | but when I scale to 175% everything BUT gnome-shell looks fine |
| 19:34.53 | greycat | I'd strongly recommend installing intel-microcode, firmware-misc-nonfree, and any other missing firmware you see in dmesg |
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| 19:35.14 | samuel | its all installed |
| 19:35.22 | samuel | also wifi |
| 19:35.58 | DammitJim | samuel, I'm on sid as well... you might want to ask in debian-next |
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| 19:36.42 | samuel | DammitJim: thanks will do |
| 19:37.27 | DammitJim | does one pick wayland during Debian installation or is that separate? |
| 19:37.34 | samuel | DammitJim: any chance you might be able to invite me please? |
| 19:37.50 | samuel | DammitJim: I think both are installed by default now |
| 19:38.11 | samuel | I was on ubuntu for quite some time because of employer |
| 19:38.16 | greycat | #debian-next is on the other network |
| 19:38.40 | samuel | but now im back to debian |
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| 19:49.35 | cr0wbar | msg NickServ IDENTIFY Fast0ne1 |
| 19:49.45 | greycat | password changin' time |
| 19:49.54 | cr0wbar | shiite yeah :( F'ing typos |
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| 19:58.04 | galaxie | Can anyone tell me what this is supposed to do? In the context of Docker. ln -sf /proc/1/fd/1 /var/log/apache2/access.log |
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| 20:00.10 | greycat | changes apache's log file to be a symlink to what appears to be the stdout of process ID 1 |
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| 20:00.21 | greycat | ask #docker |
| 20:00.57 | galaxie | Ah. OK, now that does make sense. I suppose outside of Docker it wouldn't make sense? |
| 20:00.58 | umbSublime | effectivement it makes "docker log <container>" output access.log |
| 20:01.25 | greycat | I don't understand how it makes sense INSIDE docker. |
| 20:01.28 | greycat | Or anywhere. |
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| 20:08.45 | jelly | one amazing thing about procfs is those "symlinks" that are merely representations of open fds can be used as actual files, read from or apparently written to |
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| 20:14.02 | nifker | uhm which debian repo is ARMv7l? |
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| 20:20.27 | jelly | nifker: armhf architecture, any debian.org repo, probably |
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| 20:38.14 | jhutchins_wk | I just fixed my reconnect-reauth problem: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/certfp - enable ssl |
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| 20:43.28 | jhutchins_wk | Shoot, that's the wrong URL, this is the current one: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/irssi |
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| 20:55.10 | prometheanfire | where are the basic cloud images (not for openstack or amazon or anything, just basic usage |
| 20:55.14 | prometheanfire | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/cloud/nocloud/ is empty |
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| 20:57.25 | Kathrine | TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 20:59.08 | tehnull | if I'm already on debian what's the best way to turn a 32gb flash drive into an installer with as many packages as possible on it for putting debian on more machines? |
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| 21:08.51 | tehnull | I guess what I'm actually asking |
| 21:09.03 | tehnull | is how do I get all 3 install dvds onto a flash drive |
| 21:09.18 | tehnull | so all packages are available at the time of install without a network connection |
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| 21:12.28 | jmcnaught | are you sure you'll need packages from discs 2 and 3? |
| 21:13.43 | jmcnaught | the packages are prioritized by popularity so most of the common stuff will be on the first disc |
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| 21:13.49 | jmcnaught | !which cd |
| 21:13.49 | dpkg | To find out which CD or DVD image contains a particular package or source file, use the search engine at http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ . To see what a specific image contains, examine the package lists within the list-{cd,dvd} subdirectories for the relevant architecture at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ (e.g. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-cd/). |
| 21:13.54 | jmcnaught | also that might help you |
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| 21:16.05 | prometheanfire | should the nocloud page be taken down? I'm guessing that's using the cloud-init designation |
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| 21:18.29 | tehnull | I just like having "full" installer usb sticks for any OSes I might use |
| 21:18.55 | tehnull | for example when I used windows I'd build custom installer drives with drivers and all updates included |
| 21:19.30 | tehnull | I'm a linux newbie so I really don't have any clue where to start to accomplish the same task with debian |
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| 21:21.11 | Henry151 | tehnull: i think something like this would be one route: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
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| 21:27.15 | wltprgm | a full CD is too much for me |
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| 21:27.46 | wltprgm | perhaps, sudo apt update can get all the package you want from the repo already.. |
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| 21:30.17 | humpled | perhaps not :þ |
| 21:30.29 | prometheanfire | since debian isn't publishing basic vm images I've just used diskimage-builder |
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| 21:55.22 | tehnull | I'm surprised no one has created a BD-50 image |
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| 22:30.42 | sudoISS | So, if `sudo adduser username` creates the user "username", wouldn't `sudo adduser username groupname` make "groupname" "username"'s primary group? |
| 22:34.27 | jmcnaught | sudoISS: no it adds the user to the group, but does not change the primary group |
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| 22:57.15 | tehnull | is there a way to pause jigdo? |
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| 23:02.55 | AndroUser | Hey |
| 23:03.02 | AndroUser | Dawgz |
| 23:03.15 | AndroUser | Can I ask for help? |
| 23:03.44 | jmcnaught | yes |
| 23:05.10 | AndroUser | So I have recently acquired a asus vivobook |
| 23:05.39 | AndroUser | Obviously it came with ms malware so I have installed debian osmm |
| 23:05.43 | AndroUser | Instead |
| 23:06.12 | AndroUser | I am struggling with getting Wifi to work |
| 23:06.31 | AndroUser | And it does not have an ethernet cable |
| 23:06.52 | AndroUser | Thats allright because I can still move data in with usb |
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| 23:07.33 | AndroUser | But I cant find the correct network card driver to make Wifi to work |
| 23:08.00 | AndroUser | Lspci | grep -i network |
| 23:09.14 | AndroUser | Yields : network controller : Intel Corporation Device 24fd (rev 78) |
| 23:09.15 | Lady_Aleena | You don't have to ask to ask, just ask. 8) |
| 23:09.44 | AndroUser | So - end question is : which one is the driver? |
| 23:09.57 | LtL | AndroUser: what hex id does that device have? lspci -nn |
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| 23:10.30 | AndroUser | 8086:24fd |
| 23:10.43 | LtL | ,pciid 8086:24fd |
| 23:10.44 | judd | [8086:24fd] is 'Wireless 8265 / 8275' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:24fd http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 23:11.05 | AndroUser | Love |
| 23:11.28 | LtL | you need firmware, got a thumb drive and another pc? |
| 23:11.37 | AndroUser | Yes |
| 23:13.00 | LtL | AndroUser: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 23:13.23 | LtL | annadane: at the bottom of that page click 'all' |
| 23:13.29 | AndroUser | Sorry |
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| 23:14.07 | LtL | AndroUser: dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi.deb installs it |
| 23:14.13 | LtL | sorry annadane |
| 23:14.26 | AndroUser | So... firmware-iwlwifi download this deb package and install it on target machine? |
| 23:14.54 | AndroUser | For my card? |
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| 23:15.19 | LtL | AndroUser: you should also add non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list - yes to your question |
| 23:15.43 | AndroUser | I dont have internet connection in there |
| 23:15.54 | AndroUser | Sp whats the point |
| 23:15.56 | AndroUser | So |
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| 23:16.34 | LtL | AndroUser: the name will be a little different, but thats the package. thats where the other pc and thumb drive come into play. |
| 23:17.46 | LtL | AndroUser: you need to get that package onto the target any way you can. |
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| 23:19.35 | AndroUser | Kk |
| 23:19.41 | AndroUser | Np |
| 23:19.43 | LtL | AndroUser: the actual package name is firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-5_all.deb |
| 23:19.56 | AndroUser | Ty |
| 23:20.03 | LtL | welcome |
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| 23:33.33 | jcb2016 | guys i can't connect to irc in debian 9.9. as you see im on irc through the web just can't connect to irc. any ideas? |
| 23:34.18 | jcb2016 | i can ping 8.8.8.8 i can't ping6 google.com |
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| 23:34.57 | jcb2016__ | hmm its working |
| 23:35.44 | LtL | welcome to freenode #debian jcb2016__ |
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| 23:36.03 | jcb2016__ | thanks |
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| 23:36.43 | jcb2016__ | i can't apt install anything and irc wasn't working a sec ago |
| 23:37.27 | LtL | jcb2016__: fresh install? |
| 23:37.33 | jcb2016__ | nope |
| 23:37.51 | LtL | jcb2016__: wifi or wired |
| 23:37.57 | jcb2016__ | wifi |
| 23:38.59 | jcb2016__ | apt - 0% [Connecting to httpredir.debian.org (2001:4f8:1:c::15)] |
| 23:39.42 | LtL | jcb2016__: probably network-manager being finicky, using sudo or as root 'dmesg' may tell you something, also /var/log/syslog |
| 23:40.30 | LtL | jcb2016__: probably authentication to your AP issue, i wouldn't worry.. yet |
| 23:40.44 | jcb2016__ | why can't i install anything? |
| 23:41.07 | LtL | jcb2016__: i don't know, what's the error? |
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| 23:41.34 | LtL | jcb2016__: you do need to be root of course. |
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| 23:42.40 | chocolate | how can I use dd to clone an entire partition to .iso file? |
| 23:43.02 | jcb2016__ | LtL, https://paste.debian.net/1086912/ |
| 23:44.08 | LtL | jcb2016__: fix your sources.list .. in my opinion httpredir sucks. let me send you a better list to go by. one second. |
| 23:44.28 | LtL | !tell jcb2016__ about stretch sources.list |
| 23:45.24 | LtL | jcb2016__: check the PM from dpkg, edit /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly |
| 23:46.16 | LtL | jcb2016__: if you wait, httpredirect will probably work but i'd fix it. |
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| 23:46.20 | jcb2016__ | ok checking it out |
| 23:49.43 | jcb2016__ | LtL, seems like my system is trying to use ipv6 but its not working |
| 23:50.09 | jcb2016__ | stuck - 0% [Connecting to prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4e42:2e::204)] [Connecting to prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4e42:2e::204)] |
| 23:51.00 | ksk | jcb2016__: so, do you have a v6 enabled internet connection? your computer seems to think so. |
| 23:51.14 | ksk | if you have not, try |
| 23:51.16 | ksk | !nov6 |
| 23:51.33 | ksk | !noipv6 |
| 23:51.34 | dpkg | From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, <IPv6> is built into the Linux kernel (excluding the loongson-2f flavour). To disable IPv6, add the kernel command line option ipv6.disable=1 to your bootloader. |
| 23:52.07 | ksk | would be cleaner of course to look why you get a v6 address asigned, but cannot use it. |
| 23:52.25 | Dagger | maybe... yeah, maybe debug the problem rather than just immediately disable v6 |
| 23:52.39 | Dagger | we're long past the point where that's an appropriate response to seeing a colon |
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| 23:54.31 | jcb2016__ | ksk, a while back i was having issue with the internet. i think everything at first was connecting with ipv4 then it just stopped and i started connecting with ipv6 the router is setup for ipv4 and 6 don't know what im using right now ping -c 8.8.8.8 works i get no packets lost ping6 -c google.com all packets are lost |
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| 23:55.38 | ksk | !paste |
| 23:55.38 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 23:56.18 | jcb2016__ | ksk, i typed that i didn't paste it |
| 23:56.26 | ksk | pasted the following "ip -6 a s; ip -6 r s" try to ping6 the standard gateway (output of 2nd command) |
| 23:56.35 | jcb2016__ | ok |
| 23:56.39 | ksk | nah, its was a prelude to my next sentence ;) |
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| 23:58.09 | somiaj | jcb2016__: does your isp support ipv6? |
| 23:58.30 | jcb2016__ | i looked at the router the other day and it had ipv4 and ipv6 enabled |
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| 23:59.10 | somiaj | sure maybe it is enabled on your network, but your isp may not support it. |
| 23:59.11 | jcb2016__ | ksk, https://paste.debian.net/1086918/ |
| 23:59.19 | somiaj | For instance I don't think my isp supports ipv6 |
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| 23:59.33 | jcb2016__ | why would it be enabled then? |
