| 00:00.00 | JerryS | I've looked all over the machine and can't tell where the code is coming from. |
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| 00:01.35 | JerryS | Does anyone have an idea what I screwed up? |
| 00:02.06 | JerryS | I'm a programmer, not a system admin and it's probably something simple :) |
| 00:02.46 | JerryS | Also I haven't found anything in google. |
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| 00:03.09 | jmcnaught | JerryS: is the code all in a single environment variable? |
| 00:03.09 | abrotman | have you tried creating a new user to see if they get the same? |
| 00:03.11 | jml2 | JerryS, stuff from /etc/profile.d// |
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| 00:03.29 | abrotman | JerryS: you could try to pastebin it to let us review it .. if you odn' tthink there's anything sensitive |
| 00:03.41 | jml2 | JerryS, and possibly /etc/environment*.d/ |
| 00:05.20 | JerryS | jmcnaught I believe so; It looks like it's all under "_". It starts out with |
| 00:05.35 | JerryS | _=set |
| 00:06.23 | JerryS | jml2 I found part of it from /etc/profile.d/gawk.sh but that was only a small part of it. |
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| 00:08.44 | JerryS | abrotman It will take a few minutes. I don't have a GUI or browser on that machine so I'll have to get it off and pastebin it. |
| 00:09.09 | JerryS | jml2 No /etc/environment.d directory and /etc/environment is empty. |
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| 00:11.52 | abrotman | JerryS: I'd start by creating a new user, see if the same thing happens .. that iwl narrow it down to your user, or system-wide |
| 00:13.10 | JerryS | abrutman I'll try it with a new user, but it's the same on both the user and root. |
| 00:13.19 | JerryS | still trying to get it off so I can upload it. |
| 00:13.20 | jml2 | case if you can't find what's adding to the env, you can try using "grep -ri" against /etc .. |
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| 00:14.18 | jml2 | there's also /etc/X11/Xsession.d , but you said you'r enot using a gui |
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| 00:19.45 | JerryS | jml2 I've already tried that against /etc and /var. Even /bin, just in case. |
| 00:21.08 | JerryS | abrotman I just created a new user. Same problem. |
| 00:21.31 | JerryS | abrotman Good suggestion, though. Thanks! |
| 00:22.12 | Chex | " 17:02 < JerryS> I'm a programmer, not a system admin " Dammit Jim! |
| 00:22.30 | JerryS | Chex :) |
| 00:22.49 | Chex | sorry, couldnt resist the Star Trek reference |
| 00:23.15 | JerryS | Chex Yup, one of my favorite lines :) |
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| 00:26.49 | JerryS | BTW - AFAIK I haven't made any changes to the profile-related files. At least not the ones I know about (/etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/*.sh and /etc/bash.bashrc as well as the ones in the user's home directory) |
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| 00:29.16 | jmcnaught | JerryS: are you checking your environment by running 'env'? $_ in bash is the last argument of the executed command, so if you ran for example 'ls /etc' then $_ should contain '/etc'. |
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| 00:30.00 | JerryS | jmcnaught No, I'm using "set". |
| 00:31.03 | JerryS | env shows the last line to be "_=/usr/bin/env" |
| 00:31.13 | JerryS | Wasn't familiar with the env command. |
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| 00:31.50 | disi | oes debian test packages at all? how? |
| 00:31.53 | disi | does* |
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| 00:33.09 | JerryS | jmcnaught That is where the junk is coming from, though. If I execute that file I get exactly what's at the end of my environment. |
| 00:33.13 | jmcnaught | JerryS: when I run 'set' it shows me a bunch of code too, but it's for stuff like bash auto completion and virtualenvwrapper, stuff I expect to be there |
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| 00:34.16 | JerryS | jmcnaught OK, I've just never seen it before. I found it only because I got caught by the change in the su command carrying over the old environment. |
| 00:34.37 | JerryS | jmcnaught So you're saying it's OK? |
| 00:35.04 | jmcnaught | JerryS: well I'm not a bash expert, you could ask in #bash if you're still concerned but it looks normal to me. |
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| 00:36.13 | JerryS | jmcnaught OK, as long as you think it's OK it's fine with me. I just thought I had really screwed something up in the upgrade. |
| 00:38.16 | JerryS | jmcnaught and the rest - thanks much for the help! |
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| 00:39.02 | JerryS | abrotman and jml2 Thanks to you for the help, also. |
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| 00:50.21 | wathek | Hi guys |
| 00:50.59 | wathek | I have just upgraded to Debian 10 and my laptop sound card doesn't work anymore |
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| 00:51.36 | wathek | I get a dummy output and I cannot figure out how to make my sound card works again |
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| 00:52.15 | jmcnaught | wathek: is your sound card listed by "aplay -l"? |
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| 00:53.12 | wathek | jmcnaught, yes here is the output of aplay -l https://pastebin.com/mcPzrBfw |
| 00:53.44 | wathek | jmcnaught, and my user belongs to audio group too |
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| 00:55.37 | jmcnaught | wathek: do you have timidity running? (systemctl status timidity) |
| 00:56.01 | wathek | jmcnaught, it is yes |
| 00:56.47 | jmcnaught | wathek: timidity is probably hogging the card. 'systemctl stop timidity' to stop it, 'systemctl disable timidity' to stop it from starting at boot, or just remove the timidity-daemon package |
| 00:56.57 | wathek | oh ! |
| 00:56.59 | wathek | let me try that |
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| 00:58.16 | wathek | jmcnaught, well man you are right !! good job |
| 00:58.26 | wathek | jmcnaught, and thank you so much big up |
| 00:58.36 | wathek | I'm very impressed |
| 00:58.53 | jmcnaught | I've seen it with a few other people who had the same problem. |
| 00:59.12 | wathek | thanks a lot |
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| 01:05.04 | dstaring | "IBM Closes Its $34 Billion Acquisition of Red Hat" <-- I realize that Red Hat probably has a ton of "enterprise customers" and stuff, but what exactly makes that company worth 34 BILLION dollars? I almost think it's a typo and it's supposed to say 3,4 million or something? |
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| 01:05.55 | dstaring | Even 3,4 million USD would make me shocked, frankly. |
| 01:06.10 | dstaring | But 34 billion sounds like more than the entire Coca-Cola Company is worth or something. |
| 01:06.45 | dstaring | Then again, I'm a retard on IRC and not a rich genius. |
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| 01:09.46 | abrotman | dstaring: perhaps you wanted #debian-offtopic ? |
| 01:10.10 | dstaring | abrotman: Probably not, if it's like every other *-offtopic chat room (dead)... :/ |
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| 01:10.15 | dstaring | But I get the hint... |
| 01:10.25 | abrotman | won't know until you wander in there |
| 01:11.00 | dstaring | I'll try it. |
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| 02:08.56 | slicktrail | hello. has anyone had any luck getting usb-c to HDMI working in the latest buster release? |
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| 02:29.38 | finn0 | I've notice a weird behavior of "adb" just after installing I type this "adb devi" command then **tab** to auto-complete text then getting this "*** Error in `adb': free(): invalid pointer: 0x0000556adc648bb0 ***" error (here full log: https://share.riseup.net/#wc4Exuuid7v-JvWxBJaAEg ) |
| 02:32.12 | finn0 | Although after repeating same steps I can't reproduce same error. I think, this is a some kind runtime error. But, I'm more interested in why did this happended? |
| 02:32.42 | agris | Is there any way to optimize rsync so that it can saturate a full 10gigabit network link when operating a a directly that contains 300GB worth of data, and each file is about 25KB each? |
| 02:32.59 | agris | specifically I'm migrating a mailserver |
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| 02:34.18 | agris | I can't find any system bottlenecks. bandwidth, cpu, diskio, etc |
| 02:34.23 | agris | so it must be the protocol |
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| 02:35.08 | agris | I have 24 cores on a high end XEON with 16+GB of RAM on each server, with a network latency between hosts of about 50ms |
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| 02:36.32 | agris | at this point I'm studying the man page and I will be compiling the latest stable release myself |
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| 02:37.01 | agris | but through basic attempts I cap out at about 50-80 megabits per second on protocol version 30 |
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| 02:37.18 | agris | Just wondering if there was something obvious |
| 02:37.36 | agris | anybody who has done this kind of transfer with rsync before had some tips |
| 02:37.48 | jgorocica | Hi, someone here use Netbeans for Java develop? |
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| 02:39.40 | jgorocica | Nobody? |
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| 02:44.34 | mason | !survey |
| 02:44.34 | dpkg | well, survey is Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask. |
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| 03:35.36 | annadane | does anyone else have an issue where trying to launch certain things via rofi just freezes their x session? |
| 03:35.43 | annadane | like i tried launching vim |
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| 03:35.55 | annadane | this is using MATE... |
| 03:36.23 | annadane | i'd be more ok with this if i knew how to unfreeze instead of going to a tty and rebooting |
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| 05:47.46 | Chex | jim: are you Captain Kirk!? |
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| 06:13.12 | tsujp | How can I ssh through a bastion host to a remote while using ssh keys on my local machine with a 1 line `ssh` command? |
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| 06:14.02 | tsujp | How can I ssh through a bastion host to a remote while using ssh keys on my local machine with a 1 line `ssh` command? |
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| 06:14.18 | tsujp | oh wow sorry for that it sent multiple times.. |
| 06:14.20 | tsujp | my IRC client bugged out |
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| 06:18.34 | rudi_s | tsujp: ssh -J bastion-host target-host |
| 06:19.19 | Jck_true | Monday I upgraded my server from Stretch to Buster. During the upgrade I got a dialog telling me there was a need to update the GRUB bootloader. After updating to Buster I rebooted my server. After that the BIOS report my disk as being non-bootable. |
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| 06:20.03 | Jck_true | I then created a installation USB stick and ran the rescue mode to reinstall grub. That didn't help either. But I was able to mount the file system and verify that it's still there. |
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| 06:21.02 | Jck_true | Now I put in an old micro SD card I had with Debian Buster which boots fine (but is very slow compared to my new SSD) |
| 06:21.43 | Jck_true | https://pastebin.com/1x3Taeuk <-- Fdisk -l output |
| 06:22.27 | Jck_true | Currently booting off /dev/sdd but I would like to boot from /dev/sdc which is the SSD |
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| 06:26.24 | GNU\colossus | is anyone in here using radicale (a small carddav/caldav server) and upgraded to buster without effectively losing all their data? ;) |
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| 06:35.17 | grady | is buster have somekind of odd root bug? i have to do everything with sudo, even when i use normal root user? |
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| 06:37.08 | rudi_s | grady: Why do you think you need sudo? - Also cannot reproduce, works fine here on Buster as regular root. |
| 06:37.41 | grady | every command, they not work directly with root, i have to do "sudo command" |
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| 06:38.09 | grady | clean installs and updates from 9.5 have this |
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| 06:38.39 | rudi_s | grady: "they not work directly with root" <- what does that mean, what does id say? |
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| 06:39.21 | grady | command not found |
| 06:39.51 | rudi_s | grady: Looks like a broken PATH; what does echo $PATH say? |
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| 06:40.10 | grady | PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 06:40.41 | rudi_s | grady: That's the wrong $PATH. How did you get that root shell? |
| 06:40.46 | grady | PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 06:40.48 | rudi_s | Try sudo -i instead of sudo -s |
| 06:40.52 | grady | comes with sudo -s |
| 06:41.08 | rudi_s | grady: The problem with that PATH is that all sbin directories are missing. |
| 06:41.11 | grady | well, that path is what buster does |
| 06:41.34 | rudi_s | grady: Well, it's what you do when you use sudo -s. sudo -s inherits environment variables. |
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| 06:41.45 | grady | but where |
| 06:41.56 | rudi_s | man sudo? |
| 06:41.58 | grady | if i use directly to the root user |
| 06:42.22 | grady | i dont use any regular user, just root |
| 06:42.37 | rudi_s | grady: Then why did you use sudo -s ? |
| 06:42.39 | grady | so where sudo gets these sbins |
| 06:42.52 | grady | because then everyting Works |
| 06:43.27 | rudi_s | grady: Wait. So you login per SSH or via a login prompt as root and then you get that PATH? There is no sudo involved? |
| 06:43.56 | grady | i use "su" to go root |
| 06:44.26 | rudi_s | grady: So you do use a non-root account. |
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| 06:44.54 | grady | hmm |
| 06:45.02 | rudi_s | Anyway, the problem is that you keep the environment. And regular uses don't have sbin in their PATH, but root does. |
| 06:45.52 | grady | odd, because in the 9.5 i can use su and everything works then |
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| 06:46.39 | grady | and now, i dont have any 9.5 systems where to verify that :/ |
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| 06:46.54 | grady | like what its regular user paths are |
| 06:47.06 | humpled | 9.5? |
| 06:47.47 | humpled | on 9.9, the normal users already did not have /sbin in their path |
| 06:47.48 | grady | stretch |
| 06:48.16 | grady | ok |
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| 06:48.20 | rudi_s | grady: It's possible that the behavior of passing the environment has changed. |
| 06:48.31 | grady | yep |
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| 06:48.35 | rudi_s | Check the changelogs for sudo and su, maybe the drop PATH now. |
| 06:48.43 | rudi_s | Which I think is sensible. |
| 06:49.04 | rudi_s | The simplest solution is to add the proper PATH settings to your root's shell config. |
| 06:49.08 | grady | it is but it change my workflow :) |
| 06:49.19 | grady | sure |
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| 06:49.40 | humpled | root already has the proper paths though |
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| 06:49.56 | grady | it just dosnt respect them |
| 06:49.59 | ]BFG[ | heyheyhey |
| 06:50.07 | humpled | how to become root, depending on which environment variables and path you want is the key |
| 06:50.13 | ]BFG[ | just testing aSSbuster and I have to say I already am utterly disappointed |
| 06:50.42 | tarzeau | ]BFG[: why is that? |
| 06:51.10 | ]BFG[ | after installing an almost 15GB fucking desktop with wayland gnome kde fucking shits there isnt even a basic route or ifconfig |
| 06:51.18 | ]BFG[ | but what we have is shitD all over the place |
| 06:51.24 | ]BFG[ | hell who needs route anymore |
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| 06:51.29 | ]BFG[ | systemD can do that too |
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| 06:51.50 | Ticho | those tools have been obsolete for many years now |
| 06:52.02 | ]BFG[ | you are the one who obsolete not the tools |
| 06:52.06 | grady | just install net-tools and you get your ifconfig |
| 06:52.09 | ]BFG[ | dont ever fucking touch something which was working |
| 06:52.21 | Ticho | don't shoot the messenger, ugly troll |
| 06:52.25 | Ticho | I'm just stating facts |
| 06:52.38 | Ticho | they've been replaced by "ip" |
| 06:52.47 | Chex | ip? |
| 06:52.50 | Chex | ]BFG[: wait, what is the cool new systemD way to ifconfig? |
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| 06:52.52 | Chex | syntax? |
| 06:52.55 | Ticho | yes, /sbin/ip |
| 06:52.57 | humpled | wah i can't be bothered to learn anything new ever |
| 06:53.01 | Chex | lame |
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| 06:53.10 | Chex | why learn new, if old works? |
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| 06:53.24 | ]BFG[ | and there are all these crapware running by default like tracker-miner-a |
| 06:53.27 | Chex | wait, does systemd have a way to do ls?! |
| 06:53.30 | ]BFG[ | what is this bitcoin miner by default |
| 06:53.38 | humpled | debian is already the slowest changing distro, if you want slower, maybe try a different world |
| 06:53.39 | ]BFG[ | why dont u include keylogger to the FBI by default |
| 06:53.39 | grady | the new are better for scripting and handling :) |
| 06:53.46 | Chex | how about cat? |
| 06:54.14 | tarzeau | ]BFG[: i wrote one, it was called uberkey |
| 06:54.18 | Ticho | ok, maybe with less trolling and theatrical hyperbole? |
| 06:54.21 | Chex | some should just troll all the way and make a systemd distro |
| 06:54.24 | Chex | +one |
| 06:54.35 | tarzeau | Chex: it's called ubuntu? |
| 06:54.46 | Chex | Ticho: ^^ |
| 06:54.50 | Chex | tarzeau: jinx |
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| 06:54.52 | tarzeau | where you can't apt-get install openrc, and they have the motd wget with uptime etc spyware by default |
| 06:55.20 | Chex | tarzeau: yeah thats fun |
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| 06:55.39 | Mathisen | ,v anbox |
| 06:55.40 | ]BFG[ | where is opennx or nomachine? what is your solution for remote desktop access? |
| 06:55.40 | judd | Package: anbox on amd64 -- stretch-backports/contrib: 0.0~git20181014-1~bpo9+1; bullseye/contrib: 0.0~git20190124-1; buster/contrib: 0.0~git20190124-1; sid/contrib: 0.0~git20190124-1 |
| 06:55.57 | tarzeau | ]BFG[: rdesktop xrdp, or ssh/remote x |
| 06:56.32 | tarzeau | ]BFG[: they don't fit: https://www.debian.org/social_contract |
| 06:56.55 | grady | why i see random farts here? |
| 06:57.13 | ]BFG[ | so if i switch to root with SU /sbin is not included in the path by default |
| 06:57.17 | tarzeau | for the random number generator :) so systemd starts faster |
| 06:57.18 | ]BFG[ | so no halt or poweroff wtf |
| 06:57.29 | tarzeau | ]BFG[: read the release manual? try -l |
| 06:57.30 | humpled | nothing has changed about root |
| 06:57.40 | ]BFG[ | I will try rm -rf |
| 06:57.44 | Ticho | please do |
| 06:57.49 | tarzeau | that will do nothing without a parameter |
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| 06:57.57 | Ticho | also, "/part #debian" while you're at it |
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| 07:00.56 | grady | very odd that i dont find any changelog for that su or path behavio |
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| 07:02.13 | grady | and even why i my server stuck at the 9.5 |
| 07:02.53 | Ticho | yes, it's been neglected in the release notes, sadly |
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| 07:05.02 | humpled | the effect of using "su" or "su -" or "sudo -s" or "sudo -i" has not changed, and that is what people need to understand |
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| 07:07.37 | humpled | "In Stretch and earlier releases, the su command resets your PATH environment value to one defined in /etc/login.defs by ENV_PATH and ENV_SUPATH variables. In Buster, su does not change your PATH variable." |
| 07:07.51 | grady | but something is changed about them, i dont know what but they not working like they worked earlier |
| 07:08.10 | grady | ah ok |
| 07:08.29 | Ticho | humpled: which section is that in? |
| 07:09.07 | humpled | this is so that for example you cannot do su fdisk and be using ~/bin/fdisk instead of /sbin/fdisk |
| 07:09.14 | humpled | https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables |
| 07:10.10 | humpled | maybe the su behaviour has changed slightly, i use sudo as i don't have a root password |
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| 07:12.23 | grady | perhaps it is a trend now that people dosnt want real root and thats why these things are changed to that direction. i can also just use sudo but, it isnt configured ready before so i used su and root user when on local |
| 07:12.38 | Ticho | I've been using "su -" for many years, and I'm glad debian is now in line with other distributions |
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| 07:13.00 | blackflow | sudo -i ftw |
| 07:13.05 | tarzeau | has been using an alias su to be ssh root@localhost since many years, decades of years, and key login |
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| 07:13.35 | grady | :) |
| 07:13.53 | humpled | physical key?! |
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| 07:14.53 | grady | is this rip for root ;D |
| 07:15.11 | tarzeau | if there will be automatic ble keys some day, i'm all for it |
| 07:15.53 | humpled | no, use "su -" to get the behaviour you expect grady, |
| 07:16.30 | grady | k |
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| 07:40.52 | diogenes_ | Hello guys, what would be the replacement of gksu in buster? or maybe there is a different method to open graphical apps as root? |
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| 07:47.40 | Mathisen | diogenes_, https://itsfoss.com/gksu-replacement-ubuntu/ |
| 07:48.02 | diogenes_ | Mathisen, thanks, checking... |
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| 08:17.04 | grady | with 4.19.0.5 kernel, some realtek Network cards dosnt work |
| 08:18.27 | grady | at least RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller, dosnt work |
| 08:18.40 | grady | with 4.9.0-9 it Works |
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| 08:20.27 | grady | r8169 |
| 08:22.33 | grady | system can see that nic but it dosnt connect |
| 08:22.57 | grady | no data transfer :P |
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| 08:32.01 | inch | I had a problem with r8169 just this morning. Fortunately ifdown ; ifup helped in my case. |
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| 08:37.12 | grady | if* dosnt worked and ip up either |
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| 08:38.37 | Kon- | grady: inch: some users with that Realtek ethernet controller may require the nonfree r8168-dkms driver |
| 08:40.56 | grady | hmm, testing |
| 08:42.46 | grady | Kon-, its worked! :) thanks |
| 08:43.47 | Kon- | np :) |
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| 09:13.31 | HeXiLeD | so ...buster is out ... |
| 09:13.42 | klys | true |
| 09:13.44 | HeXiLeD | worth to update or there are some issues ? |
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| 09:14.23 | klys | for what packages? I can only speak for the ones I have working |
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| 09:34.11 | vkolchev | Hi all. Upgraded my laptop to Debian 10 from 9 and my built in video and microphone do not work anymore. It has worked for Debian 9 no problem. |
| 09:34.24 | vkolchev | How can I fix it? |
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| 09:34.58 | vkolchev | actually there is no microphone in pavucontrol and in sound settings |
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| 09:36.42 | klys | vkolchev, have you tried booting your old kernel? |
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| 09:37.05 | vkolchev | klys, no |
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| 09:37.42 | klys | vkolchev, how about looking for error messages to do with firmware loadin in # dmesg | less |
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| 09:39.17 | vkolchev | klys, only this - [Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update microcode to version: 0xb2 (or later) |
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| 09:39.57 | klys | vkolchev, intel releases microcode on intel.com |
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| 09:45.15 | jediofthecode | Hey all, i just had a quick question. I am currently running ubuntu, and have my /home on a seperate partition, can I wipe my / and install debian and just preserve my /home partition ? |
| 09:45.30 | jediofthecode | Is it safe to go from ubuntu 19.04 to debian 10 with same data in /home ? |
| 09:45.51 | klys | jediofthecode, what apps do you need? |
| 09:46.16 | jediofthecode | klys: for the most part i just use vscode, slack, docker |
| 09:46.44 | jediofthecode | docker is configured to store images in my home folder, but that I can re-configure on debian no problem. |
| 09:46.58 | klys | jediofthecode, I can't speak for any of those, though I would suspect it would work nicely. |
| 09:48.01 | klys | jediofthecode, iow. remember to back up /etc/ |
| 09:48.18 | jediofthecode | klys okay, any particular reason to back it up ? |
| 09:48.38 | klys | only to keep your configuration nonsense. |
| 09:48.49 | jediofthecode | ah right, the only custom config I have is for docker, so no issue there |
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| 09:49.12 | klys | for future reference, you may need to reconfigure a few things. that's all. |
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| 09:54.46 | ahmed751995 | i installed debian 10 xfce and wifi doesn't work although it worked fine on debian 9 without using any non-free firmware each time i click on enable wifi nothing happens i tried to use cli as in doc but it tells me iwconfig command not found |
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| 09:55.56 | klys | ahmed751995, fetch the wireless-tools package |
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| 10:00.09 | ahmed751995 | :klys i can't connect to internet from the laptop |
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| 10:02.05 | kawaii | ahmed751995: can you plug in with an ethernet cable? |
| 10:02.28 | ahmed751995 | i can't :( |
| 10:02.48 | kawaii | How did you install Debian 10 in the first place? I assume you didn't use the live CD? |
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| 10:04.09 | ahmed751995 | i used usb |
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| 10:06.33 | Jck_true | download the wireless-tools deb package and copy it to the machine. Install with dpkg -i package.deb |
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| 10:07.41 | Jck_true | ahmed751995: https://packages.debian.org/buster/wireless-tools |
| 10:08.09 | met | I would rather download a firmware package |
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| 10:13.12 | ahmed751995 | i installed wireless tools and still have the same problem |
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| 10:17.19 | klys | ifconfig wlan0 0.0.0.0 up; iwlist wlan0 scan | less |
| 10:17.56 | klys | make sure you have libiw30 too. |
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| 12:06.29 | ClawOfLight | I installed cockpit-389-ds and get the menu entry, but it doesn't detect my directory. |
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| 12:31.35 | GIllesM | hello since I upgraded to buster I don't bluetooth problem I don't see bluetooth in mixer .. idea ? |
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| 12:38.31 | ikus060 | GIllesM: You could check various thing. First, have a look at dmesg. In my case firmware packages was not installed. |
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| 13:39.24 | kreyren | any ETA on bullseye packages? it still has the same packages as buster |
| 13:40.00 | themill | no it doesn't |
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| 13:41.46 | EdePopede | some are gone, but iirc they added some 12k, so it has 50k now. |
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| 13:42.52 | kreyren | i see |
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| 13:46.54 | EdePopede | i install some software from outside the repo, stuff like youtube-dl (which usually updates every few days), but technically there wouldn't be a real need to do so. can't remember when i was was hunting for some software on the net because i couldn't find anything usable in the repo. |
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| 13:53.12 | GIllesM | ikus060: I had a problem with i915 and installed firmware not working more .. I see in dmesg Bluetooth: hci0: SCO packet for unknown connection handle 0 |
| 13:53.15 | GIllesM | idea ? |
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| 13:56.06 | GIllesM | ok seems to work after deleted $HOMEDIR/.pulse directory |
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| 14:02.44 | GenTooMan | question does linux have a vendor and product ID db for USB stored locally? If yes is it in /etc or someplace "consistent" or would that be an entirely distribution based bit of randomness? |
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| 14:06.47 | themill | GenTooMan: /usr/share/hwdata/usb.ids from the hwdata package; USB Ids aren't as useful as PCI Ids, however. |
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| 14:07.57 | BCMM | GenTooMan: /usr/share is the appropriate location, rather than /etc/. it's not configuration to be modified by the user. |
| 14:08.27 | GenTooMan | themill: thanks and yes unfortunately they aren't but one has to deal with reality like that. |
| 14:08.49 | themill | well, they're the wrong tool for the job much of the time |
| 14:09.10 | themill | I don't use a hammer on a screw and call that reality. |
| 14:09.30 | BCMM | other databases shipped by the distro, like zoneinfo, are also in /usr/share. that will certainly be the norm across most distros, but you can't really expect *anything* to be consistent between distros |
| 14:09.44 | BCMM | some distros almost completely throw out the standard filesystem layout |
| 14:09.55 | themill | /usr/share/misc/usb.ids is probably the (more?) canonical location |
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| 14:11.09 | BCMM | oh yeah, i didn't even check *where* in /usr/share it is... |
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| 14:11.35 | BCMM | on sid, it's in /var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids, with a symlink at /usr/share/misc/usb.ids |
| 14:11.47 | lsjet | The FHS is annoying. |
| 14:12.05 | themill | yes, /usr/share is where it belongs up to the point where you want to run update-usbids |
| 14:12.46 | BCMM | themill: does that command exist on debian? |
| 14:12.47 | greycat | an updateable thing probably should be in /var/cache/ I would think |
| 14:12.59 | BCMM | ubuntu has it but i can't seem to work out how you'd install it in debian |
| 14:13.00 | themill | BCMM: it used to; seems to have disappeared |
| 14:13.11 | BCMM | themill: that's what i was guessing from its presence in ubuntu |
| 14:13.26 | themill | greycat: no, because you're allowed to delete /var/cache and things are supposed to still work; just like apt lists are in /var/lib |
| 14:13.32 | BCMM | (keeping it outside /usr/ does indeed make sense, if something other than apt is going to be updating it) |
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| 14:13.56 | BCMM | so is the present setup with a symlink just a throwback to that? |
| 14:14.09 | themill | guess so |
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| 14:17.06 | themill | apparently we now use the copy that is already packaged with systemd rather than shipping a separate copy in the usb.ids package; at least we're no longer shipping 4 copies of that file |
| 14:17.47 | BCMM | huh, `man lsusb` refers to the nonexistant file /usr/share/usb.ids |
| 14:17.58 | GenTooMan | BCMM it's stored in on stretch in the same local and hasn't been updated since 2015 ... they real annoyance of USB VID PID is that the same device can actually be from 30 different vendors. So I suppose one would have to read all the strings from the device as well (which oft is useless bit I digress) |
| 14:18.42 | BCMM | i'm trying to work out how the lsusb itself works out where to find the database, but i can't see the relevant bit of the sources |
| 14:18.59 | BCMM | i can see where debian mucked up the manpage though :) https://github.com/gregkh/usbutils/blob/467546cffeae9d2f94414b00871f821010a19f28/Makefile.am#L67 |
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| 14:21.34 | BCMM | i think it's safe to say that upstream's preference is /usr/share/usb.ids, anyway |
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| 14:22.15 | GenTooMan | it's actually /usr/share/misc/usb.ids ... though. |
| 14:22.34 | GenTooMan | on stretch 9.9 likely buster too. |
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| 14:25.10 | GenTooMan | oh well thanks.. I appreciate the "its here answer" nothing is ever straight forward. |
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| 14:30.35 | BCMM | GenTooMan: yes, that's where it is in debian. but i'm pretty sure that's not a cross-distro thing |
| 14:30.55 | BCMM | mostly because that appears to not be the location preferred by usbutils |
| 14:31.02 | BCMM | (upstream, i mean) |
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| 14:39.06 | JyZyXEL | having an absolute nightmare with networkamanger after stretch->buster, can someone pastebinit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf for buster? |
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| 14:40.49 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to use /etc/network/interfaces for your main interface and leave all the rest for networkmanager? |
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| 14:42.44 | LtL | JyZyXEL: http://paste.debian.net/1091070/ /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf |
| 14:43.01 | BCMM | JyZyXEL: yes. by default, networkmanager will handle anything not listed in the interfaces file, and ignore anything configured there |
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| 14:45.18 | JyZyXEL | bridges and networkmanager with kde just do not work |
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| 14:46.25 | faulter | hi #debian! I recently upgraded Jessie to Stretch and then Stretch to Buster. after upgrading to Buster, I can't log in to the server via SSH. I tried purging and reinstalling openssh-server and resetting root password with 'passwd' but I'm still getting an error. When I run /usr/sbin/sshd -D -d on the host, I get "PAM: password authentication accepted for root" but then shortly afterwards "Killing privsep child 1071" and |
| 14:46.25 | faulter | "audit_event: unhandled event 12". Can anyone help with this? Here's all the relevant info I could think of: https://pastebin.com/U83nY68z (some IPs/information scrubbed from these logs) |
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| 14:48.47 | themill | Logging in over ssh as root is disabled by default |
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| 14:49.18 | faulter | themill: I have "PermitRootLogin yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server |
| 14:49.24 | greycat | grep RootLogin /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 14:49.42 | faulter | see my paste, I included /etc/ssh/sshd_config in it :) |
| 14:49.44 | greycat | faulter: and you restarted ssh.service after changing it? |
| 14:50.00 | faulter | I'm using /usr/sbin/sshd -D -d directly. sshd.service is stopped. |
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| 14:52.02 | greycat | faulter: it works for me, dunno what you did wrong. http://paste.debian.net/1091072/ |
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| 14:52.28 | JyZyXEL | oh looks like its the "dhcpcd" process that is interfering with networkmanager |
| 14:52.37 | greycat | THAT AGAIN!?! |
| 14:52.46 | greycat | Jesus christ. |
| 14:53.03 | tarzeau | somehow that sounds familiar |
| 14:53.13 | greycat | Who is this provider or vendor that's DOING THIS |
| 14:53.47 | JyZyXEL | dhcpcd had a service in the background doing automatic configuration while i was trying to configure networkmanager |
| 14:54.06 | JyZyXEL | no wonder i was getting so frustrated |
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| 14:54.29 | greycat | dhdpcd is NOT the default DHCP client installed in Debian, and over the last few days I have seen MULTIPLE problem reports from people who are using this "dhcpcd5" thing because someone else put it there and they didn't know any better. |
| 14:55.04 | greycat | One because they're a stubborn jackass who keeps reporting his Raspbian issues on debian-user, and one here in #debian allegedly because their VPS provider did it. |
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| 14:56.03 | JyZyXEL | time to purge |
| 14:56.07 | jhutchins_wk | faulter: Have you checked the release notes? Something apparently changed in ssh for buster. |
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| 14:58.36 | faulter | jhutchins_wk: I went through this guide: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ppc64el/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html but I didn't really see anything regarding ssh there that looked relevant. I'll look for the release notes |
| 14:59.27 | greycat | The main change would be disallowing certain ciphers and what-not. |
| 14:59.46 | greycat | Easiest way to rule that out is to test "ssh root@localhost". |
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| 15:01.24 | faulter | when I ssh root@localhost on the server, it allows me to enter my password but then gives "Connection closed by ::1 port 22" and sshd and ssh both exit |
| 15:01.58 | jhutchins_wk | faulter: ssh -vvv |
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| 15:02.13 | no_gravity | Good evening! Does anybody know if it is possible to read the nth file from a bz2 archive? |
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| 15:02.47 | faulter | when run with -vvv, the only thing between entering password and the "Connection closed" line are these two lines: "debug3: send packet: type 50" and "debug2: we sent a password packet, wait for reply" |
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| 15:03.14 | faulter | I can pastebin the full ssh -vvv root@localhost if you want |
| 15:03.21 | greycat | bz2 is not an archiving format. It is a single-stream compression algorithm. |
| 15:03.44 | themill | no_gravity: (you presumably mean a tar file?) |
| 15:04.04 | greycat | faulter: -vvv will NOT help. Whatever is wrong is on the server end. You need to read the server logs, possibly increasing -d flags to make THOSE more verbose. |
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| 15:04.13 | no_gravity | themill: Uhmm.. I now see that there is just one giant file in there. |
| 15:04.20 | no_gravity | themill: I am trying to parse Wikipedia dumps. |
| 15:04.32 | themill | nom |
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| 15:07.43 | faulter | greycat, I was letting jhutchins_wk know since they suggested -vvv to me. here are the last lines of /usr/sbin/sshd -D -ddd which include the lines I get after entering my password: https://pastebin.com/wzPtNv1z |
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| 15:09.06 | Johne | just upgraded to debian 10 and lighthttpd is broken for pihole as outlined here https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/issues/2557. The instructions aren't that clear and I'm a bit of a linux noob. Can someone help? |
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| 15:19.37 | humpled | i think it says you just need to edit /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf |
| 15:19.58 | humpled | to make sure it includes the correct create-mime file |
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| 15:23.08 | jhutchins_wk | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#idm1256 |
| 15:23.19 | jhutchins_wk | faulter: See above |
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| 15:29.22 | Johne | faster for me to just reinstall lol dammit |
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| 15:29.31 | faulter | jhutchins_wk: so you're saying there might be a mismatch between client and server? but i'm unable to even do ssh root@localhost on the server. that should still be possible shouldn't it? also i'm using password authentication, not sure if the options mentioned in that link are still relevant in that case |
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| 15:41.06 | skweeke3 | Hey is anyone around? Im on my cellphone bcuz I notcied my network had some firewall router instances logged and i have a user stunnel4 in my users passwd file so I think ive been breached |
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| 15:41.29 | skweeke3 | I was wondering if anyone was around to help me out |
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| 15:42.02 | skweeke3 | I saw that an ssvnc client was installed also |
| 15:42.19 | skweeke3 | Seemed pretty shady, Im kind of wondering how to respond |
| 15:42.46 | strive | Disconnect the machine from the internet. |
| 15:42.49 | skweeke3 | I've been using stretch on this machine for a while |
| 15:43.12 | skweeke3 | Okay, ya, I've been disconnecting the router from power strive |
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| 15:43.25 | jelly | skweeke3, look at package installation logs for installation of "ssvnc". stunnel4 is just a dependency there and that package creates a service user automatically |
| 15:44.09 | skweeke3 | Btw, thanks guys |
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| 15:45.33 | mataniko | was there some change around LD_LIBRARY_PATH in buster? |
| 15:45.39 | jelly | skweeke3, /var/log/dpkg.log, /var/log/apt* |
| 15:46.15 | jelly | mataniko, that env. var. is supposed to be unset by default. Why are you asking? |
| 15:46.17 | jelly | !ask |
| 15:46.18 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 15:47.32 | jelly | skweeke3, also, "aptitude why ssvnc" |
| 15:47.40 | mataniko | I have a cross-compile set up across multiple platforms, with some toolchains quite outdated. They all worked fine with Stretch and used LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to older versions of some libs. After moving to Buster, everything that requires an old lib doesn't compile, with compilers complaining that files aren't found |
| 15:47.45 | skweeke3 | Hmm jelly, strive, I am missing log entries in dpkg.log between 7/5 and 7/9 |
| 15:50.38 | jelly | skweeke3, that's normal if you did not, in fact, run dpkg or apt or install or remove anything during that period |
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| 15:51.39 | jelly | mataniko, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for runtime library override, not build (compile) time. |
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| 15:52.16 | mataniko | the compiler is the runtime app that requires it |
| 15:52.30 | mataniko | it's not used for the actual compilation of the code |
| 15:52.46 | jelly | mataniko, okay. You said something different above. |
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| 15:53.32 | jelly | mataniko, can you show actual commands and outputs. |
| 15:53.34 | jelly | !paste |
| 15:53.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 15:54.45 | mataniko | testing compiler: mips64-g++ |
| 15:55.01 | mataniko | error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 15:55.10 | mataniko | truncated filepaths due to line length |
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| 15:55.44 | mataniko | libmpfr.so.1 does exist in LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 15:57.51 | greycat | Are you trying to cross-compile? That's a bit beyond the scope of this channel. |
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| 15:59.22 | mataniko | Yes, but forget about the compilation part for a second. I'm trying to run an app that requires LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 15:59.39 | greycat | If you're not cross-compiling, it's still really super technical, and b.... never mind, you just changed the entire question. |
| 15:59.48 | mataniko | which stopped working after upgrading to buster |
| 16:00.24 | greycat | I'm going to go to lunch instead of trying to guess what you're really trying to do. Maybe while I'm gone you will decide to TELL US instead of spewing lies and false examples, and then someone can actually help you. |
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| 16:02.08 | mataniko | oh ok, didn't know i was spewing lies, how surreptitious of me |
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| 16:02.56 | mataniko | I apologize if my examples weren't clear enough though, I was answering your questions to the best of my ability |
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| 16:06.50 | skweeke3 | Hey jelly, strive, still checking apt logs, aptitude why ssvnc was manually installed |
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| 16:12.58 | skweeke3 | Jelly, aptitude why ssvnc version 1.0.29-3+b1 says manually installed no dependencies to install ssvnc I cant say I can draw any conclusions from the apt logs |
| 16:13.09 | skweeke3 | Any suggestions? |
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| 17:06.08 | nemo | so... I'm trying to get microsoft's sql server packages working in debian. based on suggestions online, I used ubuntu 16.04 for the packages (since MS does not support debian) |
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| 17:06.56 | nemo | this caused breakage 'cause apparently they require libssl1.0.0 and debian is on libssl1.0.2 - I tried adding (based on another guide online) jessie from archives to install libssl1.0.0/jessie, but on update it errored that there was no Release file |
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| 17:07.32 | nemo | I was now wondering if maybe there's an ubuntu version on the MS server that might be closer to the debian one, or if there's a way to install the old libssl anyway |
| 17:07.36 | nemo | I guess maybe dpkg -i |
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| 17:07.50 | nemo | after all it isn't maintained anyway |
| 17:08.02 | jmcnaught | nemo: we don't support ubuntu here, please go to #ubuntu |
| 17:08.26 | nemo | I'm not running ubuntu |
| 17:08.49 | jmcnaught | oh, well using packages built for another distro is also not supported |
| 17:08.56 | jmcnaught | perhaps contact MS support |
| 17:09.19 | nemo | jmcnaught: yeah, familiar. and lol @ that. I was just wondering if there was any way to use jessie from archives with apt |
| 17:09.29 | nemo | that's a more debian targetted question |
| 17:09.54 | nemo | jmcnaught: the side question of whether anyone might know what ubuntu version might be using libssl1.0.2 is indeed more a #ubuntu question |
| 17:10.15 | jmcnaught | nemo: you can add the jessie repositories and install packages from it, but keep in mind that LTS support for jessie will end next year |
| 17:10.16 | nemo | but I'm just gonna use dpkg -i for now. that's probably less of a mess |
| 17:10.22 | Ormu | So I updated to Buster, and now my Xfce NetworkManager applet is very unresponsive. When I click the task bar icon, it may take up to a minute until the available networks menu appears. I noticed that plasma_waitforname is started everytime I do this. I also found some old discussions that suggested installing a notification daemon. However, xfce4-notifyd is installed but not running. Instead, thi |
| 17:10.29 | nemo | jmcnaught: well installing it errored w/ missing Repository file |
| 17:10.38 | Ormu | this weird plasma_waitforname thing is spawned every time even though I'm not using KDE/Plasma |
| 17:11.13 | Ormu | KDE desktop is installed but I'm using Xfce now, and I do not want to uninstall KDE |
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| 17:12.05 | nemo | jmcnaught: eh. I realised I'd had exact same problem with VMware and had libssl1.0.0 .deb lying around already on my desktop ⺠|
| 17:12.08 | nemo | I'll just use that |
| 17:12.34 | nemo | the vmware fail worries me a lot more than mssql frankly |
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| 17:12.54 | jmcnaught | ,v libssl1.0.0 |
| 17:12.55 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on amd64 -- jessie: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u8; jessie-security: 1.0.1t-1+deb8u11 |
| 17:14.03 | nemo | libssl1.0.0_1.0.1t-1+deb8u9_amd64.deb is the one I had locally. |
| 17:14.17 | nemo | the crypto for mssql does not have to be good in this context, the machines are literally side by side |
| 17:14.24 | nemo | the vmware view on the other hand... ah well. |
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| 17:14.44 | nemo | do wish they'd make better VPN choices â¹ |
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| 17:16.10 | jmcnaught | perhaps contact MS supportdeb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main' in your sources.list you should get updates for libssl1.0.0 until jessie LTS ends in June 2020 |
| 17:16.19 | jmcnaught | oops |
| 17:16.36 | Ormu | Looks like this plasma_waitforname also starts when I try to e.g. adjust the display backlight. Each adjustment step may take 10 to 20 seconds and the notification does not appear |
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| 17:16.38 | jmcnaught | s/perhaps contact MS support/if you have '/ |
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| 17:17.02 | Ormu | Any ideas how to disable this plasma thing and use the proper xfce4-notifyd instead (for Xfce)? |
| 17:17.05 | Akuw | is there any way to use rsync from windows to linux? |
| 17:17.20 | blackflow | nemo: and at the end of the day just stick it into an ubuntu LXC on your debian host. |
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| 17:19.26 | Ormu | If I do notify-send "test" it also hangs or takes very long time to complete, and plasma_waitforname is spawned |
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| 18:01.06 | skweeke3 | I think my network was breached; I noticed my router had a few thousand denials logged and then that there was ssvnc installed and an stunnel4 and ftp user in the passwd file |
| 18:01.35 | skweeke3 | Is anyone around that can give me some advice, im on my cell phone currently |
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| 18:03.49 | HeXiLeD | ask skweeke3 |
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| 18:05.13 | skweeke3 | What do you think I should do? I offline, im looking at ssvnc installed on 2016 and aptitude says it was installed manually |
| 18:05.31 | karlpinc | skweeke3: If you're compromized, a re-install, possibly followed by restoring a backup, is the only sure way. |
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| 18:07.03 | skweeke3 | Sigh |
| 18:07.22 | skweeke3 | I wish I could collect some evidence for an investigation |
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| 18:07.45 | karlpinc | skweeke3: Otherwise, you don't know that the box is really doing _anything_ you tell it to. |
| 18:08.09 | lsjet | skweeke3, karlpinc is right. If I suspected anything, I'd boot from known good media and start over. I'd keep the original fileystem intact for analysis though |
| 18:08.29 | karlpinc | skweeke3: Stick a new disk in and save the old one for analysis. |
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| 18:08.34 | lsjet | Just don't trust any binaries on it |
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| 18:08.59 | raidensnake | I noticed Debian armhf won't play nice with the raspberry pi 4. |
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| 18:10.26 | raidensnake | I'll be honest. I really don't like using Raspbian as a lot of things are tied I don't need. |
| 18:13.12 | lsjet | raidensnake, agreed |
| 18:14.23 | lsjet | Does raspbian even have a clear sep between free/non-free? |
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| 18:18.09 | greycat | you'd have to ask them |
| 18:18.23 | teclo- | yeah |
| 18:18.33 | teclo- | I guess it's easier to ask the raspbian guys about that |
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| 18:20.16 | lsjet | sure, I was only asking as conversation since raidensnake mentioned it. I'm not trying to do anything with raspbian. |
| 18:20.58 | lsjet | I don't think I even have any machines running it anymore. |
| 18:22.27 | raidensnake | one thing that breaks that you do need is lightdm and openbox |
| 18:22.37 | raidensnake | on Raspbian it works |
| 18:22.46 | raidensnake | on Debian it refuses to install properly. |
| 18:22.54 | raidensnake | and throws errors |
| 18:23.41 | humpled | odd |
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| 18:24.45 | raidensnake | on Raspbian I use a minimal gui and get the right click menu |
| 18:24.56 | raidensnake | but onm Debian it doesn't want to do anything |
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| 18:25.03 | raidensnake | I just get a black screen doing nothing. |
| 18:25.14 | raidensnake | not even a mouse cursor. |
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| 18:26.20 | raidensnake | yet if I do exactly the same on the pi 3 with Debian it works no problem. |
| 18:26.30 | raidensnake | that's what I don't get. |
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| 18:27.05 | lsjet | when you say exact same, are you literally moving the sd card over? |
| 18:27.24 | raidensnake | no doing the same things on a different card. |
| 18:27.29 | raidensnake | or the same card |
| 18:27.35 | raidensnake | after wiping ity |
| 18:27.36 | Chunkyz | raidensnake, /join #raspberrypi |
| 18:27.37 | raidensnake | it* |
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| 18:30.38 | PutinsDong | ALL HAIL LORD PUTIN |
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| 18:32.05 | dvs | puts away his hammer and sicle |
| 18:33.17 | humpled | wow there's a pi4 |
| 18:33.24 | dvs | oh yeah |
| 18:33.39 | dvs | but there a little problem with them |
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| 18:37.23 | lsjet | dvs, what prob? |
| 18:37.47 | dvs | lsjet, some USB-C cables will not provide power to the device. |
| 18:37.48 | nemo | jmcnaught: hm... maybe I'd included too many areas... but. eh. the dpkg thing was enough for my simple needs |
| 18:38.01 | nemo | jmcnaught: but I might try that again just to learn |
| 18:38.39 | lsjet | dvs, oh yeah I read about that |
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| 18:39.16 | dvs | lsjet, I'll wait until they fix that problem |
| 18:39.54 | lsjet | seems like every revision has had at least one flaky power issue |
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| 18:42.05 | karlpinc | raidensnake: You probably need to install some non-free firmware or another, but that's just a guess. |
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| 18:42.47 | karlpinc | raidensnake: It is most convienient to install debian using the unoffical installer which installs non-free firmware. |
| 18:43.04 | karlpinc | !firmware images |
| 18:43.04 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 18:51.09 | jezebel | where on dvd1 do i find the list of packages installed by netinst? |
| 18:51.21 | zapproger | I am running the MATE desktop on Debian 10 (Upgraded). In my notification bar I currently have to keyboard layout selector buttons. One from ibus which has big blue bold letters and another with lowercase black letters. Which one should I keep and how do I remove the other? |
| 18:51.23 | karlpinc | raidensnake: (Although come to think of it, I don't know if there's a version for arm, etc.) |
| 18:51.36 | greycat | jezebel: It depends on which tasks you select at the task prompt. |
| 18:51.43 | jezebel | yeah |
| 18:52.00 | zapproger | two* not to |
| 18:52.07 | greycat | Nobody here is going to be able to cough up a list of the packages for you. Someone would have to actually go *do* one on a brand new system and then report back. |
| 18:52.09 | dvs | jezebel, the actual list of packages should be found on the install.log in the /root directory |
| 18:52.09 | karlpinc | jezebel: The dvd1 just contains the "most common" packages. The netinstall can install _anything_, at least if you drop into shell. |
| 18:52.49 | jezebel | hmmm debootstrap it is then |
| 18:52.50 | greycat | Also, "dvd1" and "netinst" are different images, and seeing the two combined in one question is more than a little baffling. |
| 18:53.10 | jezebel | someone on here mentioned it was on dvd1 :D |
| 18:53.16 | jezebel | but yeah i get you |
| 18:53.25 | dvs | jezebel, they were wrong |
| 18:54.51 | greycat | Or there has been a misunderstanding somewhere. |
| 18:54.53 | karlpinc | zapproger: If it helps, I always use "dpkg -S /some/binary" to find to what package a binary belongs. (This is actually slower than some other way I can't recall, but not so much as to matter.) So, if you can find the binary (maybe in ps output?) you can find the package. |
| 18:55.52 | jezebel | i should look into the debian installer project perhaps |
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| 18:56.19 | zapproger | jezebel: Are you using the firmware DVD? |
| 18:56.30 | zapproger | karlpinc: Thank You |
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| 19:00.14 | karlpinc | zapproger: It also helps to ask "aptitude why package" before removing the package willy-nilly. :) |
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| 19:02.29 | zapproger | karlpinc: I actually got the problem fixed without having to uninstall a package. |
| 19:03.03 | zapproger | karlpinc: Thanks for showing me that command though. That will definitely help me later |
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| 19:32.31 | Guest68 | hi everyone |
| 19:33.04 | irl25519 | gi guest |
| 19:33.06 | irl25519 | hi |
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| 19:33.45 | Guest68 | I would like some help. I have 2 files. 1 file A.txt with emails and another file B.txt with emails and passwords. How can I check if file B.txt has some of the emails in file A.txt |
| 19:33.51 | Guest68 | on the shell |
| 19:34.07 | jhutchins_wk | Guest68: diff |
| 19:34.14 | greycat | Guest68: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashProgramming/04 |
| 19:34.15 | Guest68 | but they are huge! |
| 19:34.27 | jhutchins_wk | diff A.txt B.txt |
| 19:34.32 | greycat | or the equivalent in any other language that has hashes/assoc.arrays |
| 19:34.40 | greycat | (aka dictionaries) |
| 19:34.55 | Guest68 | yeah but it takes forever with diff.. |
| 19:35.02 | greycat | jhutchins_wk: you missed the part where the lines of A do not match the FORMAT of the lines of B |
| 19:35.16 | Guest68 | I tried like cat B.txt | grep -f A.txt and it worked.. but with a bigger file it doesnt |
| 19:35.39 | greycat | good thing they're listening to the answers we give them |
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| 19:37.32 | Guest68 | yeah because diff would show me the difference between the 2 files |
| 19:37.37 | Guest68 | I want to see the ones they have in common |
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| 19:39.20 | greycat | I'm guessing the other part of the question, which you did not state, and which is why you are ignoring the answer, is "it has to be a single bash pipeline, small enough to fit on one line, and simple enough that my grandma's dead parakeet can understand it, and someone has to write it for me." |
| 19:40.07 | lsjet | greycat, lol. The parakeet is left-handed...uh winged? |
| 19:40.15 | TReK | hey there, i upgraded my vps to debian buster and the znc wont start anymore. i get "znc: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.57: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"; i also try to compile it again but get "make: *** No rule to make target '/usr/include/c++/6/map', needed by 'src/main.o'. Stop." help? |
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| 19:47.15 | greycat | ,file libicuuc.so.57 |
| 19:47.20 | judd | No packages in buster/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 19:47.23 | greycat | ,file libicuuc.so |
| 19:47.27 | judd | Search for libicuuc.so in buster/amd64: libicu-dev: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicuuc.so |
| 19:48.05 | greycat | ,file libicuuc.so.57 --release stretch |
| 19:48.08 | judd | Search for libicuuc.so.57 in stretch/amd64: libicu57: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicuuc.so.57 |
| 19:48.17 | greycat | Right-o. |
| 19:48.38 | greycat | Either install that library package from stretch and keep your old binary, or figure out how to compile it under buster. |
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| 19:51.15 | coruja | znc runs fine here in buster, no libicu57 but libicu63 needed |
| 19:51.35 | greycat | sounds like yours was compiled for buster, and TReK's was compiled for stretch |
| 19:52.25 | Kyros | .file psql |
| 19:52.29 | Kyros | ,file psql |
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| 19:52.34 | judd | Search for psql in buster/amd64: postgresql-client-common: usr/bin/psql; bash-completion: usr/share/bash-completion/completions/psql; openssh-known-hosts: usr/share/doc/openssh-known-hosts/examples/psql, usr/share/openssh-known-hosts/plugins/psql; postgresql-client-11: usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/psql; libapache2-sitecontrol-perl: usr/share/doc/libapache2-sitecontrol-perl/examples/schema.psql; |
| 19:52.35 | judd | icinga-idoutils: usr/share/doc/icinga-idoutils/examples/scripts/prepsql |
| 19:52.48 | coruja | should be fixed during dist-upgrade then (at least it did here) |
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| 19:52.58 | jezebel | er, wouldnt installing the library package from stretch create frankendebian? |
| 19:53.23 | greycat | No, that label is reserved for installing things from *newer* releases, not older. |
| 19:53.54 | greycat | It's completely normal to have older libraries lying around after an upgrade anyway. Adding a few won't hurt. |
| 19:54.40 | coruja | TReK, apt policy znc libicu57 libicu63 |
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| 19:55.03 | greycat | coruja: pretty clear Trek compiled their own, and isn't using a Debian package of it |
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| 19:55.47 | factor | Upgraded my kernel to match my shiny new debian. BRB |
| 19:55.54 | coruja | or a partial upgrade, maybe due to limits of the hoster's debian template |
| 19:56.05 | TReK | yup, compiled by myself |
| 19:56.15 | coruja | ok, i'm out then ;) |
| 19:56.23 | TReK | libicu63 is also installed |
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| 19:57.12 | greycat | TReK: you have three basic choices: (1) install whatever stretch libs are needed to run the existing binary; (2) recompile it from source for buster's libs; (3) use the Debian buster package instead of compiling it yourself |
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| 20:00.33 | TReK | uff |
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| 20:01.25 | coruja | TReK, just because of cusriosity, why did you compile your own? |
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| 20:02.44 | TReK | just to have the 1.7.4 instead of 1.7.2 |
| 20:03.05 | greycat | ,v znc |
| 20:03.06 | judd | Package: znc on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4-2; jessie-security: 1.4-2+deb8u2; stretch: 1.6.5-1+deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.6.5-1+deb9u2; stretch-security: 1.6.5-1+deb9u2; stretch-backports: 1.7.2-3~bpo9+1; bullseye: 1.7.2-3; buster: 1.7.2-3; sid: 1.7.4-1 |
| 20:03.29 | greycat | ,checkbackport znc |
| 20:03.30 | judd | Backporting package znc in sidâbuster/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using buster. |
| 20:03.44 | greycat | OK, 4th choice is "build your own backport of the sid znc" |
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| 20:04.02 | TReK | not sure if my config work with older znc version |
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| 20:04.47 | TReK | 5th wait for a working build of znc? |
| 20:05.04 | greycat | sure |
| 20:05.17 | greycat | but I kinda figured you wanted it, like, today-ish |
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| 20:05.45 | TReK | right, lol |
| 20:06.26 | coruja | then you probably won't be happy with stable in the long run ;) |
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| 20:07.32 | TReK | i just thought its a 5 min thing |
| 20:07.59 | TReK | anyway thanks coruja |
| 20:08.09 | greycat | official backports are made whenever a debian developer decides to make one |
| 20:08.27 | greycat | could be never, could be months, could be days |
| 20:08.49 | coruja | as znc is not a hell of code, backporting it is a kind of 5 min thing too i guess |
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| 20:09.47 | TReK | i'll ask in the #znc channel too, maybe someone is already working on it |
| 20:10.04 | coruja | (the dpkg bot in here has a short howto) |
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| 20:24.33 | mureena | Yeet |
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| 20:34.11 | TReK | got it :) |
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| 21:06.02 | muhaha | what are you using for syncing google drive? |
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| 21:21.15 | roylaprattep | since stretch dist-upgrade, my logwatch is very minimal compared to when i was on jessie... |
| 21:21.20 | roylaprattep | i have many section that aren't there anymore, like mdadm for example... |
| 21:21.48 | jml2 | roylaprattep, stretch or buster? buster came out couple days ago |
| 21:22.25 | tarzeau | muhaha: rclone-browser ? |
| 21:24.25 | tarzeau | personally i'm not using google services, and their drive is just slow |
| 21:25.14 | greycat | He did say "compared to ... jessie", so probably did mean stretch. |
| 21:25.31 | greycat | Now all he needs is someone who knows what the heck "logwatch" is. |
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| 21:28.59 | somiaj | It compiles logs and sends you daily reports. It can be configured to look at different logs, though I wonder with journald that the logs it is use to looking at are just more minmial. |
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| 21:30.31 | somiaj | roylaprattep: if there are specific changes, these are often documented, look in /usr/share/doc/logwatch and read the changelogs/news, they may give you insights to things that have changed. |
| 21:30.46 | somiaj | you may also need to relook at your configuration to tell it what logs/info to report. |
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| 21:36.30 | g0zzy | Just upgraded to Buster and find i now have no sound. Any ideas? |
| 21:36.41 | g0zzy | using Mate desktop |
| 21:36.59 | g0zzy | Sorry XFCE |
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| 21:37.38 | jmcnaught | g0zzy: is the sound card listed by 'aplay -l'? |
| 21:38.07 | g0zzy | Shall check |
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| 21:38.27 | g0zzy | Yes |
| 21:38.54 | jmcnaught | g0zzy: check to see if timidity is running: 'systemctl status timidity' it might be hogging the sound card |
| 21:39.03 | g0zzy | Ah right |
| 21:40.46 | g0zzy | It was yes, but stopping it made no difference |
| 21:41.00 | jmcnaught | how did you stop it? |
| 21:41.19 | g0zzy | systemctl stop timidity |
| 21:41.52 | jmcnaught | g0zzy: next I could check pavucontrol |
| 21:42.32 | tarzeau | timidity has a service? |
| 21:43.17 | jmcnaught | there's a timidity-daemon package |
| 21:43.23 | g0zzy | Thanks for that. Tweaking pavucontrol did it |
| 21:43.51 | dvs | so how do you stop timidity permanently? |
| 21:43.56 | g0zzy | It don't get that. I thought timidity is just for playing midi files? Why would it invade the system? |
| 21:44.02 | jmcnaught | g0zzy: you might want to 'systemctl disable timidity' or remove the timidity-daemon package |
| 21:44.26 | jmcnaught | actually⦠if you could run 'aptitude why timidity-daemon' it will tell you why it got installed (probably) |
| 21:44.50 | g0zzy | I did use timidity before to play midi files but would never imagine it would set up shop |
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| 21:46.17 | jmcnaught | g0zzy: I've seen the same thing happen to a few other people after upgrading to buster, but I don't know what package is depending on timidity-daemon or why it happens |
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| 21:47.14 | g0zzy | Thanks. Well i've disable it for now |
| 21:47.29 | dvs | how? |
| 21:49.00 | g0zzy | systemctl disable timidity |
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| 21:52.18 | g0zzy | Thanks again |
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| 22:09.37 | jvl | Hi, I'm running buster in LX zone on smartos. New ldconfig from libc-bin 2.28-10 segfaults. Is there a way how to debug this further? replacing binary from strech works, but is hackish ... (http://ix.io/1N7s) |
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| 22:13.56 | Berzerker | so packages are still showing up under an archive of "testing" when the repository is set to "buster," is this the repository's fault? |
| 22:14.19 | Berzerker | or has this generally just not switched over yet |
| 22:15.18 | jmcnaught | Where is it showing that? |
| 22:15.38 | Berzerker | unattended-upgrades gives me that information, but it's just pulling the information from the respository |
| 22:15.58 | Berzerker | I'm using georgia tech's repo, deb http://debian.gtisc.gatech.edu/debian/ buster main |
| 22:16.06 | Berzerker | >Checking: bzip2 ([<Origin component:'main' archive:'testing' origin:'Debian' label:'Debian' site:'debian.gtisc.gatech.edu' isTrusted:True>]) |
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| 22:16.46 | jmcnaught | Berzerker: have you run 'apt update' and accepted the change from testing to stable? |
| 22:17.06 | Berzerker | `apt update` updates this information? |
| 22:17.18 | Berzerker | of course it does...lol |
| 22:17.23 | jmcnaught | !apt suite changed |
| 22:17.24 | dpkg | If you were already using Debian 10 "Buster" prior to it being released as stable, or you use 'testing' in your sources.list, apt-get will complain about changes to the release information on the mirror. apt(8) will prompt you to accept changes; apt-get(8) will need --allow-releaseinfo-change |
| 22:17.49 | jvl | ps auxwww |
| 22:18.22 | jml2 | i dont like unattended-suprise upgrades, i just disable it :) |
| 22:18.40 | Berzerker | is there a way to just update the suite without running a full update? |
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| 22:23.31 | jml2 | Berzerker, you can comment out non-official things, update everything debian, then try to re-enable -- or "edit" your other repos that are more suited for the latest debian |
| 22:24.04 | Berzerker | seems like just running an apt update will be easier. :P I'll just go that route. thanks jml2 jmcnaught |
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| 22:29.05 | Lady_Aleena | I have to add an & when I open a gui program on the command line, so when I run strace on a gui program, would I add the & at the end to get the command prompt back? |
| 22:29.32 | humpled | why do you need the command prompt back? |
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| 22:30.41 | Lady_Aleena | humpled, in case I wanted to do other things on the command line; and, I am thinking, if I want to pipe the output of strace to a pastinbin or reader. |
| 22:31.52 | humpled | you want to see the strace and pipe it to a file at the same time |
| 22:32.04 | humpled | i'm not sure |
| 22:32.10 | Lady_Aleena | Or to pastebinit. |
| 22:33.25 | Lady_Aleena | strace geany | pastebinit -b paste.debian.net -u Lady_Aleena # might not work without the & |
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| 22:36.38 | dvs | get it! |
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| 22:36.54 | Lady_Aleena | Well, it looks like I have a problem with pastebinit: http://paste.debian.net/1091127/ |
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| 22:38.11 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: I filed a bug report on that. |
| 22:38.28 | Lady_Aleena | LtL, thanks! 8) |
| 22:38.41 | Lady_Aleena | And -u doesn't work either. |
| 22:40.36 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: have you tried just install --reinstall geany replace -u with -a |
| 22:40.38 | Lady_Aleena | I tested -u with "lla | pastebinit -b paste.debian.net -u LadyAleena" and the paste showed up with "me" has the username. |
| 22:41.12 | LtL | and paste.debian.net should be the default |
| 22:41.37 | Lady_Aleena | LtL, -a worked! |
| 22:43.06 | Lady_Aleena | Thanks LtL. |
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| 22:43.19 | Lady_Aleena | So, now to test the strace. |
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| 22:44.03 | Lady_Aleena | strace geany & | pastebinit -a LadyAleena # bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|' |
| 22:45.12 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: welcome, try & at he end, i don't know why you bother with that though |
| 22:45.55 | Lady_Aleena | Because strace is still running even though geany is already open. |
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| 22:48.00 | Lady_Aleena | Even with the & it is still running. However, I don't know how strace works. |
| 22:49.47 | humpled | didn't you expect to see some console output? now that is being redirected to the pastebinit command |
| 22:50.01 | humpled | or rather piped |
| 22:51.19 | humpled | with a redirect like 'strace geany > strace.log' you could do 'tail -f strace.log' in another terminal |
| 22:51.36 | humpled | and upload to pastebin when you have something suitable |
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| 22:52.00 | Lady_Aleena | humpled, I didn't pipe it that last time, I just ran it. |
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| 22:52.53 | Lady_Aleena | humpled, I will give that a try. |
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| 22:54.50 | Lady_Aleena | humpled, I just tried 'strace geany > strace-geany.og' and it returned an empty file. |
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| 22:55.02 | Lady_Aleena | s/og/log/; |
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| 22:59.36 | humpled | well are you waiting for it to crash or something? |
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| 23:02.08 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: I would save your projects and 'apt-get install --reinstall geany' |
| 23:02.14 | Lady_Aleena | I need help figuring out why geany isn't using the theme I chose and was told to run strace. |
| 23:03.07 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: sounds like theme doesn't play nice with it, it happens. |
| 23:03.23 | Lady_Aleena | is reinstalling. |
| 23:04.03 | Lady_Aleena | Reinstalling didn't help. *head desks* |
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| 23:04.31 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: change the theme, see if that helps |
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| 23:04.53 | Lady_Aleena | In a few minutes, I need to go fold laundry. |
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| 23:22.59 | Lady_Aleena | Geany's appearance changes for only a few themes. |
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| 23:29.14 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: is it just the 'look' that bothers you, or geany's performance? geany simple doesn't like just any old theme. where do you get these themes? |
| 23:29.28 | LtL | *simply |
| 23:29.47 | Lady_Aleena | LtL, the "look" because it is so big it gets in the way. |
| 23:30.09 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: use a theme that works. |
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| 23:31.12 | troka | Oi |
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| 23:31.38 | Lady_Aleena | Redmond is the only theme I like. *sighs* |
| 23:32.02 | troka | Speak purtuguese? |
| 23:32.34 | jmcnaught | !br |
| 23:32.34 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 23:32.54 | troka | okay |
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| 23:35.36 | Lady_Aleena | LtL, the themes came with XFCE (or maybe GTK3), I think. |
| 23:35.54 | Lady_Aleena | LtL, they are in /usr/share/themes |
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| 23:36.31 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: so it's a xfce4 theme, not geany? |
| 23:36.54 | Lady_Aleena | LtL, It could be a more general GTK theme. |
| 23:37.28 | Lady_Aleena | I haven't looked at KDE yet to see if it has the same themes. |
| 23:37.41 | rjsalts | anyone had problems with intel video cards and the Xorg in buster? |
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| 23:38.22 | rjsalts | Every display manager I've tried starts X but only gives me the cursor. The rest of the stuff doesn't work |
| 23:39.23 | rjsalts | The only EE line in xorg log is [ 55683.171] (EE) modeset(0): failed to set mode: Invalid argument |
| 23:39.47 | LtL | Lady_Aleena: those are DE themes, maybe install a geany theme for geany, https://github.com/codebrainz/geany-themes |
| 23:41.00 | humbot | wow strace geany produces quite a bit of output |
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| 23:44.07 | LtL | humbot: i'm thinking that can't be a good thing. |
| 23:44.17 | jmcnaught | rjsalts: maybe you need firmware? |
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| 23:45.59 | humbot | seems it's just all the os/memory function calls and their returns |
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| 23:48.35 | rjsalts | jmcnaught: not sure. I've got it working with X -configure and using the generated config file, it just doesn't seem to work without an xorg.conf |
| 23:49.22 | LtL | humbot: i closed geany after about 5 gazillion lines of strace output with no end in sight |
| 23:49.28 | rjsalts | worked fine with stretch |
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