| 00:01.21 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 00:03.39 | *** join/#debian awk1314 (~awk1314@59.36.7.163) |
| 00:07.22 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-169-92-77.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 00:07.47 | *** join/#debian piercedwater (~piercedwa@unaffiliated/piercedwater) |
| 00:08.18 | *** join/#debian null1337 (~WhoAmI@c-73-203-123-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:14.57 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@120.244.119.170) |
| 00:15.34 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:5983:c203:baaa:a2a0) |
| 00:15.35 | *** join/#debian ulrick (~berty@61.77.247.163) |
| 00:16.12 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@c-174-52-60-165.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 00:16.12 | *** topic/#debian is Debian 10 Buster released! /msg dpkg buster; /msg dpkg stretch->buster; /msg dpkg apt suite changed | Oldstable Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.9 ; 9.9 needs dist-upgrade | Jessie: jessie-{updates,backports} removed, /msg dpkg jessie-lts | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net| chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 00:16.37 | *** join/#debian iamalpha080 (~Mutter@112.51.192.80) |
| 01:09.33 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@c-174-52-60-165.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 01:09.33 | *** topic/#debian is Debian 10 Buster released! /msg dpkg buster; /msg dpkg stretch->buster; /msg dpkg apt suite changed | Oldstable Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.9 ; 9.9 needs dist-upgrade | Jessie: jessie-{updates,backports} removed, /msg dpkg jessie-lts | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net| chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 01:10.09 | *** join/#debian BrianG61UK (~BrianG61U@host-81-86-119-232.static.as9105.net) |
| 01:11.00 | *** join/#debian Brainium (~brainium@unaffiliated/brainium) |
| 01:13.05 | *** part/#debian ElFerna (~fernando@190.163.100.252) |
| 01:14.27 | *** join/#debian Sabaku (~Sabaku@i19-les03-th2-31-37-152-245.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 01:16.28 | *** join/#debian sidmo_ (~ident@p5B24E6E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:17.36 | *** join/#debian ilikeyou (ilikeyou@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/ilikeyou) |
| 01:26.45 | *** join/#debian martigan (~martigan@162.251.232.55) |
| 01:29.00 | *** join/#debian carneous (~carneous@telefrag.claustrophobopolis.com) |
| 01:33.59 | *** join/#debian b0b (~bob@unaffiliated/sulfyr) |
| 01:34.42 | *** join/#debian kiwi_73 (a2fd4716@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.253.71.22) |
| 01:35.17 | kiwi_73 | Hey all! O |
| 01:36.03 | piercedwater | hi |
| 01:36.11 | piercedwater | how's it going kiwi_73? |
| 01:37.08 | kiwi_73 | *I'm on Debian Stretch and having internet trouble. All other devices besides the Debian machine are having no trouble with the internet. My wicd says I'm connected but I can't use browser or other net apps successfully |
| 01:37.25 | kiwi_73 | Aside from that pretty good thanks and yourself? |
| 01:37.32 | *** part/#debian FuZi0N (~FuZi0N@unaffiliated/fuzi0n) |
| 01:38.26 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 01:38.43 | kiwi_73 | I've tried changing supplicants between wext and nl80211... same thing happens either way. If I try ralink_legacy it says my password is wrong |
| 01:39.24 | kiwi_73 | The Debian machine can only connect when I plug directly ethernet into the router which is not desirable |
| 01:40.17 | kiwi_73 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.53 | *** join/#debian Codier (~user@x5f7001ee.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 01:46.43 | kiwi_73 | The network in question is a WPA2 |
| 01:52.36 | kiwi_73 | any ideas? |
| 01:54.40 | *** join/#debian uNmowed (~Kaede@46.48.160.174) |
| 01:59.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1471] by debhelper |
| 01:59.30 | *** join/#debian martigan (~martigan@162.251.232.55) |
| 01:59.59 | kiwi_73 | piercedwater? |
| 02:02.01 | *** part/#debian fkg (~fkg@2407:7000:9d62:c420:1afd:2851:edb3:fd62) |
| 02:02.04 | piercedwater | I don't have any ideas, but someone else might if you stick around |
| 02:02.16 | piercedwater | sorry |
| 02:03.39 | *** join/#debian null1337 (~WhoAmI@c-73-203-123-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:04.41 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:06.12 | *** join/#debian kts (~kts@103.73.236.55) |
| 02:11.33 | *** join/#debian semeion (~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion) |
| 02:13.22 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@174-28-46-250.albq.qwest.net) |
| 02:16.07 | *** join/#debian null1337 (~WhoAmI@c-73-203-123-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:18.54 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 02:21.17 | kiwi_73 | alright, back tomorrow |
| 02:21.30 | *** join/#debian martigan (~martigan@162.251.232.55) |
| 02:27.18 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@unaffiliated/debsan) |
| 02:32.08 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 02:32.22 | *** join/#debian felixfoertsch (~felixfoer@92.117.51.71) |
| 02:37.28 | *** join/#debian torbo (~user@162.249.163.177) |
| 02:38.25 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@c114-77-254-225.rochd21.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 02:39.41 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 02:43.13 | *** join/#debian COOurb (COOurb@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/coourb) |
| 02:43.16 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 02:46.28 | *** join/#debian lamth (~lamth@118.70.5.19) |
| 02:47.01 | *** join/#debian ZaZaGX (kenny@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/zazagx) |
| 02:47.07 | ZaZaGX | hi |
| 02:47.15 | *** join/#debian OS-54258 (~OS-54258@ip98-164-217-225.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 02:49.28 | dvs | oi |
| 02:51.04 | *** join/#debian akem-hp (~akem@84.39.112.22) |
| 02:53.09 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@ppp-88-217-93-49.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 02:54.33 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 02:57.48 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 02:58.04 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 03:00.06 | *** join/#debian bliv (~bliv@unaffiliated/blivande) |
| 03:00.38 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 03:04.43 | *** join/#debian pingfloyd (~pingfloyd@unaffiliated/pingfloyd) |
| 03:05.16 | *** join/#debian n_1-c_k (~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70) |
| 03:13.48 | *** join/#debian Thedarkb-X40 (~beno@51-171-49-52-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net) |
| 03:17.05 | *** join/#debian hamersaw (~hamersaw@c-73-181-53-196.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:19.03 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 03:23.39 | *** join/#debian ensamvarg (~ensamvarg@ip92342695.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 03:23.43 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.77.238.137) |
| 03:31.32 | nvz | dvs: you speek portugese? |
| 03:31.52 | nvz | speak even |
| 03:36.15 | *** join/#debian lupulo (~javier@137.101.83.128) |
| 03:37.03 | nvz | they really need to remove wicd and stop using it for several of our DE its total junk. I'd tested wicd vs network-manager, vs tradional wpa_supplicant /etc/network/interfaces style and wicd has like a 50% at best success rate at connections |
| 03:37.48 | nvz | it will fail to connect, it will drop existing connections, it will randomly error out and if you're not running it from a terminal you won't even notice |
| 03:39.19 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 03:42.14 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 03:42.42 | nvz | its bad enough that with nearly 20 years experience using and supporting debian and being a lover of python and what wicd is TRYING to do, I just tell anyone who mentions it to remove it immediately and install network-manager-gnome |
| 03:43.17 | nvz | I don't even bother figuring out if it is actually causing a problem cause in my experience with it, its so highly probable to cause network issues, its safer to just assume its the problem |
| 03:43.31 | dvs | nvz, nope |
| 03:43.49 | *** join/#debian thunderrd_ (~thunderrd@119.42.76.129) |
| 03:44.05 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.120.36) |
| 03:47.21 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 03:49.17 | *** join/#debian likeyou2 (ilikeyou@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/ilikeyou) |
| 03:51.51 | *** join/#debian wireshark (~none@1.152.107.141) |
| 03:55.04 | *** join/#debian buspirate (~none@ppp59-167-177-136.static.internode.on.net) |
| 03:55.19 | *** join/#debian freedom (~freedom@75.175.142.157) |
| 03:56.29 | *** join/#debian chiluk (~quassel@cpe-70-123-147-240.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 03:59.57 | *** join/#debian karenmcd (~karenmcd@S0106c05627c259fa.ca.shawcable.net) |
| 04:01.24 | karenmcd | just did a fresh install of debian 10 using july iso for xfce - after installation, i have a blinking curser at top of center monitor. it appears there's something wrong with the amdgpu and vega56 - but i don't know how to fix it |
| 04:03.32 | diogenes_ | karenmcd, you used a live iso? |
| 04:07.37 | karenmcd | no, i used the debian 10 installation media, and selected xfce during installation |
| 04:07.42 | karenmcd | the live iso won't boot |
| 04:08.15 | karenmcd | diogenes_, sorry, forgot to tag you :p |
| 04:08.30 | diogenes_ | try booting with nomodeset |
| 04:08.56 | karenmcd | i can alt F2 into a tty2 |
| 04:09.02 | *** join/#debian lucifargundam (~lucifargu@c-73-116-38-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:09.59 | karenmcd | i tried X -configure then startx with that, and it fails.. i don't know how i'd upload my dmesg to pastebin without gui though for more help |
| 04:10.28 | karenmcd | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928631 this looks relevent, but i dont understand how to fix it |
| 04:10.29 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/928631 in firmware-amd-graphics (closed): «firmware-amd-graphics: Update to 20190502-1 causus hang of system directly after grub»; severity: serious; opened: 2019-05-07; last modified: 2019-08-12. |
| 04:11.26 | diogenes_ | then try booting with acpi=off |
| 04:13.10 | karenmcd | i add that to end of kernel line in efi/EFI? |
| 04:13.23 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 04:13.44 | diogenes_ | in grub linux line |
| 04:14.39 | *** join/#debian preview_ (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 04:15.06 | *** join/#debian kts (~kts@103.73.236.55) |
| 04:16.03 | karenmcd | like press e during boot and manually add it? |
| 04:16.16 | diogenes_ | yes |
| 04:17.05 | diogenes_ | there you also add nomodeset |
| 04:17.22 | karenmcd | after quiet in linux line correct? |
| 04:18.31 | diogenes_ | yes |
| 04:18.59 | diogenes_ | then ctrl+x to boot |
| 04:19.34 | karenmcd | okay, F10'd instead, but got an error about nomodeset - decrypted my disk, lots of stuff flew by and now im at same blinking curser |
| 04:19.42 | karenmcd | i can still access tt2 |
| 04:19.47 | karenmcd | with alt F2 |
| 04:20.46 | karenmcd | error says gpu drivers are disabled (in dmesg | less) |
| 04:22.28 | diogenes_ | what distro you were running previously? |
| 04:24.21 | karenmcd | hmmm, that's a tough answer, ive been switching between manjaro, qubes and debian 10 over and over during the last 2 weeks - the main change i made this time is that my gtx 980 ti died, and i replaced it with vega 56 because it supports FLReset and AMD plays nice with open source drivers - so i thought i'd financially back them instead of nvidia this time |
| 04:25.19 | karenmcd | manjaro boots and installs, but i prefer debian because i'm more familure with it and i know the software i want to run plays nice with it, as it's developed on debian |
| 04:26.55 | diogenes_ | karenmcd, do you happen to re-use the /home folder with all configs from previous installations? |
| 04:28.01 | *** join/#debian citypw (~citypw@061092022235.ctinets.com) |
| 04:28.11 | karenmcd | this once i did not - i opted for a clean install |
| 04:29.51 | diogenes_ | maybe try a different newer kernel from backports. this helped me once when i couldn't boot too. |
| 04:30.08 | karenmcd | how would i go about installing 5.? |
| 04:30.21 | karenmcd | im not familure with this process in debian 10 |
| 04:30.35 | diogenes_ | do you have network acces in tty? |
| 04:30.37 | karenmcd | yes |
| 04:30.41 | karenmcd | i think.. one sec.. |
| 04:30.53 | diogenes_ | ping google.com |
| 04:30.56 | karenmcd | yes, ping debian.org works |
| 04:31.22 | diogenes_ | let's see in bot ha any factoid on that, not sure |
| 04:31.24 | diogenes_ | !kernel |
| 04:31.26 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 5.2.9, mainline: 5.3-rc5, stable 5.2: 5.2.9, stable 5.1: 5.1.21 (EOL), longterm 4.19: 4.19.67, longterm 4.14: 4.14.139, longterm 4.9: 4.9.189, longterm 4.4: 4.4.189, longterm 3.16: 3.16.73, linux-next: next-20190823 |
| 04:31.35 | nvz | what is it you're trying to do? |
| 04:31.51 | karenmcd | okay, so 5.2.9 looks good |
| 04:31.55 | diogenes_ | yes |
| 04:32.01 | nvz | thats not an option thats upstream info |
| 04:32.52 | nvz | it would appear, and I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but you're talking to someone who doesn't know what they're doing here.. I do.. are you looking to install a 5.x kernel on buster? |
| 04:33.00 | karenmcd | so how do i get 5.2.9 on my debian 10? from cli |
| 04:33.27 | nvz | that will take a huge amount of time and hdd space cause you're going to have to compile it yourself |
| 04:33.35 | nvz | 5.2.9 is not available for debian |
| 04:34.01 | karenmcd | i have nvme on 4x and 32 gigs ram on 3.5ghz 6 core |
| 04:34.03 | nvz | as I already stated you seem to be being misled by someone who is guessing |
| 04:34.06 | karenmcd | i can do it |
| 04:34.20 | nvz | its not about ram, its about HDD space |
| 04:34.35 | nvz | and the time will be over an hour in configuring and you knowing how to do it |
| 04:34.37 | karenmcd | 500gb on this nvme and it's a fresh install |
| 04:34.55 | nvz | combing through options and knowing what they all are |
| 04:34.57 | karenmcd | is there a tutorial i can follow step by step? |
| 04:35.11 | nvz | no.. but there is built in help on each option |
| 04:35.35 | nvz | and if you just stop getting all excited on misleading info and answer my question we can resolve this much simpler |
| 04:35.41 | nvz | there is a 5.2 kernel in debian already built |
| 04:35.44 | nvz | if thats what you want |
| 04:35.50 | *** join/#debian viri (~viri@2600:1700:b0f0:7090:200c:30f0:ae88:8f6) |
| 04:36.30 | diogenes_ | nvz, i wasn't misleading anyone, i was trying to figure out what's going on so stop that bullshit and don't trynna look like a superhero. |
| 04:36.36 | nvz | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 04:36.37 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u7; stretch-proposed-updates: 4.9+80+deb9u8; stretch-backports: 4.19+105~bpo9+1; bullseye: 4.19+105; buster: 4.19+105; sid: 5.2+106 |
| 04:37.04 | nvz | diogenes_: I already said I'm not trying to be a dick about this, I'm just trying to stop a newbie from spending 4 hours trying to compile a kernel that will likely fail and not resolve anything |
| 04:37.27 | diogenes_ | so do that instead of trying to actually be "a d..." |
| 04:37.40 | nvz | I'm trying to, they still haven't said if thats what they want to do |
| 04:37.48 | diogenes_ | i didn't claim i was super helpful and i don't mind when someone gets and corrects me. |
| 04:38.00 | nvz | all I seen was you clearly not knowing what was available in debian I dont know what the real issue is here |
| 04:38.09 | *** join/#debian Tom-_ (tomg@64-7-147-218.agas1a-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 04:38.15 | nvz | but I can tell this person probably doesnt know how to compile a kernel nor do they probably really need/want to |
| 04:38.30 | diogenes_ | i just said from my experience that a newer kernel helped me in similar situation. |
| 04:39.05 | diogenes_ | and in any case if he can't boot anyway then what damage a newer kernel can do? |
| 04:39.08 | karenmcd | sure, i'm willing to avoid building a kernel. maybe i can try building a kernel after i have a working desktop environment |
| 04:39.09 | diogenes_ | more than not booting? |
| 04:39.11 | nvz | diogenes_: you;re probably right about that whatever the issue here is.. but they are getting really excited about something not avaliable and going down a really deep rabit hole here |
| 04:39.46 | diogenes_ | nvz, and that;s what i was trying to do next, to check the available pre-compiled kernels for debian. |
| 04:40.04 | diogenes_ | but you seems to have more knowledge to i step back and let you help the user. |
| 04:40.14 | diogenes_ | and i will learn from that too. |
| 04:40.29 | nvz | I made screenshots on the process here earlier for someone https://imgur.com/a/q30Hx8h |
| 04:41.21 | karenmcd | that's a really pretty DE you got there in those screen shots |
| 04:41.38 | karenmcd | I have a TTY2 right now and TTY1 shows a "_" blinking |
| 04:41.42 | nvz | if you download the kernel MANUALLY using your browser from http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-amd64 as shown.. and install it manually with apt install foo.deb, dpkg -i foo.deb or gdebi foo.deb you will not worry about a frankendebian |
| 04:41.54 | karenmcd | okay |
| 04:41.57 | nvz | you can't even see the DE in those screenshots its only showing chromium :D |
| 04:42.53 | karenmcd | so im guessing im using wget |
| 04:43.07 | nvz | karenmcd: I can give you a direct link if you wanna do that |
| 04:43.22 | nvz | karenmcd: do you want just the standard US mirror or any preference? |
| 04:43.40 | karenmcd | nvz i need that as i have no gui on the bork machine :( |
| 04:44.02 | nvz | karenmcd: yes well do you have a preference as to mirror or country? |
| 04:44.21 | karenmcd | id prefer the main deb.debian.org i think is the one? |
| 04:44.53 | nvz | thats not a mirror its a CDN |
| 04:45.23 | nvz | its not an option on p.d.o but I could reformat the link for it if you want |
| 04:45.44 | nvz | http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-5.2.0-2-amd64_5.2.9-2_amd64.deb |
| 04:46.15 | nvz | karenmcd: now here is the deal with this.. if you NEED it due to hw issues as diogenes_ suggests, and they are probably right about that.. idk.. I haven't followed your issue.. |
| 04:46.28 | nvz | but this will not be getting any security updates, its manually installed |
| 04:46.50 | nvz | hopefully in the near future it will be backported but as of right now its only in sid and you're installing it manually |
| 04:47.23 | karenmcd | so i happen to be in my sources.list |
| 04:47.29 | nvz | karenmcd: NO |
| 04:47.38 | karenmcd | how do i add it so it's auto updated? |
| 04:47.39 | nvz | do not use the sources list for this :D |
| 04:47.47 | nvz | karenmcd: you will break your system |
| 04:47.52 | karenmcd | ok |
| 04:47.57 | nvz | you can't mix sources for stable and unstable |
| 04:48.24 | nvz | if you do this the best option is just to monitor the updates yourself and manually install them to avoid breaking the system |
| 04:48.38 | nvz | if you compiled you'd have to do the same only it would take way longer |
| 04:48.56 | *** join/#debian wokasaur (wokasaur@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/wokasaur) |
| 04:49.36 | nvz | so this is certainly an option, but it does make you lose certain benefits like auto updates of the kernel and it slightly complicates support.. make sure any hardware related issues you need support with you mention you're using this kernel and not the stock one |
| 04:50.42 | *** join/#debian toxync12- (~toxync12@120.244.119.170) |
| 04:50.54 | nvz | karenmcd: it is possible to add a sid source an pin the package but this is a bit more advanced apt usage and if you don't do it right you can badly and irreversibly break your system so cross that bridge later if you must.. first make sure this is actually something you need by trying it out safely and manually |
| 04:51.47 | karenmcd | just making sure there's not a typo there.. |
| 04:52.12 | karenmcd | your link says linux-image-5.2.0-2-amd64_5.2.9-2_amd64.deb |
| 04:52.33 | karenmcd | just noting that there's a 0 in one and a 9 in the second |
| 04:53.01 | nvz | karenmcd: I copied the link from packages.debian.org then changed the first part of the url to deb.debian.org as you requested |
| 04:53.06 | nvz | as all mirrors are organized the same |
| 04:53.21 | nvz | and deb.debian.org (the CDN) is not an option on the links on p.d.o only the actual mirrors |
| 04:54.57 | nvz | debian does weird mangling of version numbers at times because they're applying their own patches and trying to maintain a consistent version.. |
| 04:55.25 | karenmcd | nvz, apt install didn't work, but dpkg -i did work |
| 04:55.57 | nvz | karenmcd: did you wget the package then put the package name in the command? |
| 04:56.01 | karenmcd | lets reboot and see if it worked |
| 04:56.09 | nvz | uh no :P |
| 04:56.23 | nvz | oh wait, you said dpkg -i /did/ work :D |
| 04:56.43 | nvz | well then yeah, you can reboot, and you should still have your buster kernel there in a submenu in case it doesnt boot |
| 04:56.52 | *** join/#debian rsx (~rsx@ppp-188-174-140-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 04:56.52 | *** join/#debian aps__ (~aps@aftr-109-91-38-70.unity-media.net) |
| 04:57.16 | nvz | karenmcd: if you are needing to build a driver, you will need the corresponding header package as well |
| 04:57.35 | *** join/#debian Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 04:57.49 | nvz | I still don't know what your original issue is, I was just trying to stop you from chasing a white rabit down a hole |
| 04:58.10 | karenmcd | i have a blinking curser after a fresh install of debian 10 |
| 04:58.18 | VadPerevad | guys, how to convert md to pdf? |
| 04:58.24 | nvz | linux kernel compiling is something I recommend anyone giving a go at.. but not to solve an issue as someone who hasn't done it before |
| 04:58.41 | *** join/#debian leandrovianna (~leandrovi@179.221.111.139) |
| 04:58.44 | nvz | karenmcd: a blinking cursor? :P |
| 04:58.55 | nvz | VadPerevad: md? |
| 04:58.56 | *** join/#debian alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) |
| 04:59.03 | karenmcd | the only thing I changed since my last fresh install of debian 10 was using a vega 56 instead of a dead gtx 980 ti |
| 04:59.11 | VadPerevad | nvz, markdown |
| 04:59.19 | nvz | VadPerevad: yeah.. markdown isn't a thing |
| 04:59.29 | nvz | its plain text with arbitrary syntax |
| 04:59.36 | nvz | just like markup |
| 04:59.44 | *** join/#debian wobelingers (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:59.47 | nvz | xml, html, etc.. are all markup and all different languages |
| 05:00.15 | karenmcd | nvz, this didn't fix it - so like i said when i started asking for help - it seems like the issue is covered here and looks similar to my issue... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=928631 |
| 05:00.16 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/928631 in firmware-amd-graphics (closed): «firmware-amd-graphics: Update to 20190502-1 causus hang of system directly after grub»; severity: serious; opened: 2019-05-07; last modified: 2019-08-12. |
| 05:00.18 | nvz | VadPerevad: I knew what md signifies, I was just looking for more detail on what you meant and what you hoped to achieve |
| 05:01.23 | karenmcd | i don't totally understand what they are all talking about in that bug report - but it appears i need to remove and re-install the amdgpu firmware? |
| 05:01.38 | VadPerevad | nvz, i want to achieve pdf-document created by vim |
| 05:01.55 | karenmcd | and i see they are talking about non-free drivers in there, but i'd rather not use the non-free ones if at all possible nvz |
| 05:02.19 | nvz | karenmcd: is this really new hardware? like ryzen graphics or something? |
| 05:02.31 | nvz | karenmcd: I assume you tried these sorts of kernel params it suggests |
| 05:02.41 | VadPerevad | nvz, simplest as i see - is to create .md and convert it to .pdf |
| 05:03.35 | karenmcd | nvz, yes, everything here is all really new hardware - x99 chipset - nvme x4 ssd - vega10 chipset gpu - and intel i7 |
| 05:03.43 | nvz | VadPerevad: yes well can you be more SPECIFIC.. in the simplest sense a pdf is just a file full of indexed images, in the more complex sense it contains forms that can be filled out, links etc.. |
| 05:04.12 | nvz | the only reason I see for anyhting like markdown is to specific special formatting or such |
| 05:04.43 | VadPerevad | nvz, i need only rtf support in my document, images and headings |
| 05:05.16 | nvz | ah.. ok.. that makes sense I guess |
| 05:06.42 | nvz | VadPerevad: this is what latex was designed for.. pandoc comes to mind |
| 05:06.44 | karenmcd | Welp - manjaro boots, so i guess it's back to manjaro until my video card works on debian |
| 05:06.46 | nvz | ,i pandoc |
| 05:06.47 | judd | Package pandoc (text, optional) in buster/amd64: general markup converter. Version: 2.2.1-3+b2; Size: 14380.7k; Installed: 113143k; Homepage: https://pandoc.org/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/pandoc |
| 05:07.21 | nvz | karenmcd: so if you tried a newer kernel, that bug report suggest the firmware is the issue.. try newer firmware too |
| 05:07.45 | nvz | karenmcd: you want a link for the sid firmware-amd-graphics package? |
| 05:08.29 | karenmcd | that would be helpful sure - i'll try that before giving up |
| 05:08.36 | nvz | karenmcd: http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-amd-graphics_20190717-1_all.deb |
| 05:08.39 | VadPerevad | nvz, thanks, i'm looking at pandoc right now |
| 05:08.41 | nvz | ,v firmware-amd-graphics |
| 05:08.42 | judd | Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 -- jessie-security/non-free: 20161130-5~deb8u1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-1~bpo9+2; buster/non-free: 20190114-1; buster-proposed-updates/non-free: 20190114-2; bullseye/non-free: 20190717-1; sid/non-free: 20190717-1 |
| 05:09.35 | nvz | karenmcd: if its kernel related its gotta be one of the two.. and if nothing else you can look and see what firmware this manjaro uses.. the firmware is typically a single file in /lib/firmware/ you can bring over |
| 05:09.35 | karenmcd | nvz, is there a free firmware that i could use instead?or is the fix only non-free? |
| 05:10.01 | nvz | karenmcd: if the card requires firmware, it'd be part of the kernel unless it were non-free |
| 05:10.13 | nvz | karenmcd: any free firmware you already installed with the kernel |
| 05:10.57 | karenmcd | so strange, because i select free firmware when booting manjaro - i will look at lib/firmware to see what's going on in the manjaro live distro here |
| 05:11.39 | *** join/#debian Thedarkb-X40 (~beno@51-171-49-52-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net) |
| 05:11.51 | nvz | karenmcd: do something like dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 from both if you can.. that will give us something to compare and contrast |
| 05:12.34 | karenmcd | nvz, is that how i pastebin from the terminal! ? this is great |
| 05:13.29 | *** join/#debian OS-54258 (~OS-54258@ip98-164-217-225.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:14.14 | nvz | karenmcd: yes if you have netcat installed |
| 05:14.17 | karenmcd | nvz, http://termbin.com/inw1 |
| 05:14.26 | nvz | karenmcd: thats what debian or manjaro? |
| 05:14.48 | karenmcd | that's debian |
| 05:15.00 | karenmcd | manjaro coming in a sec |
| 05:15.11 | nvz | karenmcd: alright well if you say you have a manjaro live, we should be able to maybe tell something comparing the two |
| 05:15.31 | nvz | karenmcd: but I'd certainly try with the newer firmware package to see cause that bug is closed |
| 05:15.45 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 05:16.16 | nvz | karenmcd: but either way the kernels and firmware are not real tightly integrated we can pull that stuff easily from another distro.. the xorg stuff on the other hand is a lot trickier |
| 05:17.02 | karenmcd | nvz, frankly, i bought the vega 56 because i want to not have proprietary/non-free firmware - i just didn't realize i got a video card that was so new that out of the box support was going to be a bit of a challenge |
| 05:17.09 | nvz | karenmcd: you may if the new kernel/firmware doesn't solve it just be able to run bullseye or sid and resolve your issue to get newer xorg which is typically what these spinoffs are based off of.. |
| 05:18.14 | nvz | karenmcd: I been using Debian since late 2002 and I typically try stay 5 years behind on hardware to be sure its been well tested.. heh.. I have a 2013 Thinpad T440 and I'm amazed by its performance |
| 05:18.56 | karenmcd | yeah, my T420 runs Qubes 4.0.1 great too - i hear yea |
| 05:19.13 | nvz | not only do you have the advantage of the bugs being identified and usually ironed out but the hardware is MUCH cheaper.. you can get this machine for like $150 or less easy which is like 1/10th its original price |
| 05:19.19 | karenmcd | but it doesn't run CS:GO worth a sh!t :p |
| 05:20.05 | karenmcd | and xenotic is way more fun with fx cranked |
| 05:20.24 | nvz | karenmcd: if modern gaming is your main concern debian stable may not be for you.. you might want to run testing/unstable |
| 05:20.47 | nvz | karenmcd: you doing this with steam linux or wine/crossover? |
| 05:20.55 | karenmcd | no wine/proton |
| 05:21.07 | karenmcd | just native linux support or i won't install it |
| 05:21.21 | nvz | hmm I never even heard of proton.. interesting |
| 05:21.35 | karenmcd | proton = steams version of wine if im not mistaken |
| 05:21.35 | nvz | they are making real efforts to support linux over there at valve I guess :D |
| 05:21.41 | *** join/#debian Jmabsd (~jmabsd@unaffiliated/jmabsd) |
| 05:21.48 | nvz | seems like it |
| 05:21.52 | Jmabsd | what is the name of the tool whereby you look up in which package a given executable exists again |
| 05:22.11 | nvz | ,i apt-file |
| 05:22.12 | judd | Package apt-file (admin, optional) in buster/amd64: search for files within Debian packages (command-line interface). Version: 3.2.2; Size: 37.6k; Installed: 90k; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/apt-file |
| 05:22.20 | nvz | ,file bin/bash |
| 05:22.25 | judd | Search for bin/bash in buster/amd64: bash: bin/bash |
| 05:22.46 | Jmabsd | nvz: I don't have apt-flie |
| 05:22.51 | Jmabsd | file |
| 05:23.04 | Jmabsd | i thought there was some bundled tool for it |
| 05:23.07 | nvz | its an optional package |
| 05:23.16 | nvz | you can search with dpkg -S if the package is installed |
| 05:23.19 | Jmabsd | isn't there some bundled package |
| 05:23.21 | Jmabsd | ah. it's not. |
| 05:23.29 | nvz | not that I'm aware of.. |
| 05:23.39 | Jmabsd | "autoreconf" is which package |
| 05:23.43 | nvz | its not the kind of feature that your typical user needs |
| 05:23.51 | nvz | ,file autoreconf |
| 05:23.55 | judd | Search for autoreconf in buster/amd64: autoconf: usr/bin/autoreconf; dh-autoreconf: usr/bin/dh_autoreconf; debmake: usr/share/debmake/extra0override/autoreconf; bash-completion: usr/share/bash-completion/completions/autoreconf |
| 05:24.22 | nvz | Jmabsd: you can always use judd /msg judd file autoreconf |
| 05:24.36 | karenmcd | nvz sorry about the delay - installing netcat on manjaro caused a full system update/upgrade - im interested to comare the dmesgs myself too |
| 05:24.37 | Jmabsd | mhm |
| 05:24.38 | nvz | Jmabsd: you can also use the packages.debian.org or UDD websites |
| 05:25.09 | nvz | karenmcd: other than losing the other link in the ether its not a big deal.. but its in my backlog easily locatable |
| 05:25.28 | nvz | karenmcd: I'd be more interested in seeing if the firmware from sid resolves this issue or not first |
| 05:26.11 | nvz | karenmcd: I am a Debian user.. I seek debian solutions first :D |
| 05:26.58 | karenmcd | i've been learning i have to compartmentalize my systems - qubes just wouldn't let me do a gpu passthrough, and i think it has something to do with how new the hardware is im running |
| 05:27.19 | nvz | karenmcd: testing/unstable may be your thing though.. but as you seem to be a newbie there are some things I'd want to inform you of if you want to go that route |
| 05:27.49 | karenmcd | well, im guessing that testing/unstable is probably something like manjaro in that it described rolling releases |
| 05:28.04 | karenmcd | and that sometimes a release breaks your os |
| 05:28.41 | nvz | its probably similar but there are some additional things to know.. like first of all we don't support it in #debian on OFTC or Freenode, its supported on OFTC in #debian-next thats the first key difference |
| 05:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1465] by debhelper |
| 05:29.04 | karenmcd | okay, that's good to know, i'll join now |
| 05:29.06 | nvz | also there is the issue of slush.. which right now is a bit of an issue |
| 05:29.31 | karenmcd | oh, nevermind, it's invite only |
| 05:29.47 | nvz | karenmcd: wrong server you're on Freenode, its on OFTC, the official debian network |
| 05:30.07 | nvz | karenmcd: this used to be the official server, Debian moved to OFTC |
| 05:30.21 | karenmcd | oooo oftc |
| 05:30.29 | karenmcd | yeah, oftc does tor if i recall too |
| 05:31.21 | *** join/#debian wobeling1rs (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:31.27 | nvz | the way debian's system works is we bring new stuff into sid/unstable and if it goes 5-10 days without release-critical bugs, its moved to testing, then every so often, usually about 2 years, once significant changes have been made, the release team anounces a freeze schedule.. and testing is frozen and bugs are ironed out for it to become the next stable release at which point no versions change, only |
| 05:31.33 | nvz | security updates are made |
| 05:31.41 | nvz | during this freeze and shortly thereafter, we have whats known as slush |
| 05:32.07 | karenmcd | http://termbin.com/inw1 Debian https://termbin.com/sjdw Manjaro |
| 05:32.09 | nvz | testing/unstable become slushy in that they are tied up by transititions and release directives.. and they are more buggy |
| 05:32.26 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@174-28-46-250.albq.qwest.net) |
| 05:32.44 | nvz | but when the slush has melted, testing/unstable is mostly smooth sailing if you know a bit and are careful |
| 05:33.38 | nvz | karenmcd: ok, well right off the bat I see manjaro is using the same 4.19 branch as stretch-backports and buster |
| 05:35.30 | nvz | karenmcd: at 8.78-8.79 seconds the manjaro is finding the firmware |
| 05:35.49 | nvz | debian however on 5.2 is saying its not finding firmware for the amdgpu |
| 05:36.26 | nvz | karenmcd: you also have non-free wifi firmware it seems |
| 05:39.24 | nvz | karenmcd: based on the firmware stuff in manjaro those firmware are only for the VCE and UVD which are both enhancements for encoding/decoding video |
| 05:40.43 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:41.23 | *** join/#debian christin (~charisma@softbank060127186135.bbtec.net) |
| 05:41.57 | *** join/#debian Ericounet (~Eric@2a01:e35:2f6f:d750:7dc9:f966:844e:3079) |
| 05:42.57 | *** join/#debian Whiskey (~Whiskey@185.57.105.4) |
| 05:43.01 | nvz | karenmcd: normally a lacking of firmware resulting in a probe failure would cause xorg to fallback on legacy vesa or such, but still work |
| 05:43.08 | *** join/#debian iderik (~weechat@h-162-65.A147.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 05:43.26 | nvz | karenmcd: really I still say you need to try the sid firmware package and see how that goes |
| 05:44.11 | *** join/#debian AndrejSPB (~andrej@cm-84.215.96.169.getinternet.no) |
| 05:47.53 | karenmcd | thanks, will write back tomorrow ive got a friend over and we're going to watch sorry to bother you by boots riley |
| 05:48.20 | nvz | karenmcd: alright |
| 05:50.37 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@ppp-88-217-93-49.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 05:54.06 | *** join/#debian godart (~elliot@175.201.77.52) |
| 05:58.11 | *** join/#debian Kadigan_KSB (~kadigan@unaffiliated/kadigan) |
| 06:03.11 | *** join/#debian voltagex (voltagex@unaffiliated/voltagex) |
| 06:04.50 | *** join/#debian electro33 (uid613@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krylqygftsmvzevq) |
| 06:07.08 | *** join/#debian thor (~lindon@218.51.217.124) |
| 06:08.06 | *** join/#debian weedloser (~pabu@c-977f235c.045-512-73746f34.bbcust.telenor.se) |
| 06:12.33 | *** join/#debian wobeling1rs (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:13.21 | *** join/#debian q-u-a-n31 (~q-u-a-n3@c-69-136-173-65.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian wobeling1rs (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:14.38 | *** join/#debian tammie (~jimmie@1.251.186.121) |
| 06:17.05 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 06:18.23 | *** join/#debian berkly (~graig@FL1-118-111-118-36.isk.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 06:22.05 | *** join/#debian quinnnuaa (~Administr@1.85.62.62) |
| 06:24.24 | *** join/#debian CSP-SOFTWARE (~uwx@172.245.163.218) |
| 06:28.48 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 06:29.07 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 06:30.27 | *** join/#debian Thedarkb-X40 (~beno@51-171-49-52-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net) |
| 06:36.40 | *** join/#debian wobeling2rs (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:37.08 | *** join/#debian pyfgcr (~pyfgcr@194.230.147.173) |
| 06:37.48 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 06:39.29 | *** join/#debian Al_lA (~derwhalfi@231.143.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) |
| 06:39.30 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 06:40.18 | *** join/#debian wobelingers (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:41.26 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 06:45.37 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.122.231) |
| 06:45.42 | *** join/#debian globiboulgum (~globi@37.120.152.148) |
| 06:46.17 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 06:49.21 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 06:57.12 | *** join/#debian gnupi (~gnupi@79.119.85.24) |
| 06:58.11 | *** join/#debian Theroxat (~quassel@5.165.76.83.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch) |
| 07:00.51 | *** join/#debian kouni (~kouni@180-176-77-104.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw) |
| 07:02.24 | *** join/#debian pragomer (~sisko@p200300D4CBC2460051EE5F571FC7194E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:03.00 | *** join/#debian DelPhyinf (~DelPhyinf@116.75.89.125) |
| 07:06.32 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@5.77.130.122) |
| 07:07.02 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@5.77.130.122) |
| 07:09.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1471] by debhelper |
| 07:11.52 | *** join/#debian _jrjsmrtn (~jrjsmrtn@ip-212-239-186-81.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 07:14.27 | *** join/#debian n_1-c_k (~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70) |
| 07:15.42 | *** join/#debian camel_ (fade@0.0.127.inaddr.org) |
| 07:15.52 | *** join/#debian Sabotend_ (~Sabotende@unaffiliated/sabotender) |
| 07:16.05 | *** join/#debian Dark_ (dark@secksy.net) |
| 07:17.06 | *** join/#debian Mr_Queue (~Mr_Queue@96.43.135.210) |
| 07:17.51 | *** join/#debian bryceml (bryceml@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fec6:dda1) |
| 07:17.57 | *** join/#debian Mazhive (~Mazhive@199.38.232.95) |
| 07:18.08 | *** join/#debian phantomcircuit (~phantomci@192.241.205.97) |
| 07:18.11 | *** join/#debian lucifargundam (~lucifargu@c-73-116-38-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:18.16 | *** join/#debian leachim6 (~leachim6@unaffiliated/leachim6) |
| 07:19.44 | *** join/#debian SleePy (SleePy@simplemachines/siteteam/SleePy) |
| 07:23.10 | *** join/#debian kini (~kini@unaffiliated/kini) |
| 07:23.26 | *** join/#debian ageis (~kevin@cointel.pro) |
| 07:27.15 | *** join/#debian humpled (~i@unaffiliated/humbag) |
| 07:29.45 | *** join/#debian dvanmosselbeen (~dvanmosse@cust-226-38-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 07:30.58 | *** join/#debian governor (~governor@41.190.30.235) |
| 07:34.08 | *** join/#debian ZaZaGX (kenny@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/zazagx) |
| 07:34.11 | ZaZaGX | hi |
| 07:34.22 | weedloser | hello |
| 07:36.16 | *** join/#debian dasj19 (~dasj19@v6.vps.vikings.net) |
| 07:37.21 | *** join/#debian oo_miguel (~miguel@89-72-186-97.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 07:38.07 | *** join/#debian woshty (~woshty@unaffiliated/woshty) |
| 07:41.14 | *** join/#debian zerotech (~zerotech@BSN-182-125-20.dynamic.siol.net) |
| 07:43.52 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 07:48.58 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 07:49.54 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 07:50.37 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 07:51.36 | *** join/#debian tnozyrox (~tnozyrox@unaffiliated/tnozyrox) |
| 07:53.49 | *** join/#debian mvaenskae (~mvaenskae@unaffiliated/mvaenskae) |
| 07:54.50 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@223.72.67.73) |
| 07:56.10 | *** join/#debian sidmo (~ident@p5B24E6E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:57.58 | *** join/#debian enki (~enki@dynamic-78-30-165-161.adsl.eunet.rs) |
| 07:58.03 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 08:02.44 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 08:03.57 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@lfbn-1-9160-71.w86-238.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:05.14 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@lfbn-1-9160-71.w86-238.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:08.24 | *** join/#debian globiboulgum (~globi@45.162.228.190) |
| 08:12.01 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@228.25.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 08:12.35 | *** join/#debian Messenger_bird (~banana@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) |
| 08:13.45 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@trivialand/genius/butt3rfly) |
| 08:16.32 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 08:19.03 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 08:19.27 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@cpc122086-bmly10-2-0-cust783.2-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:19.27 | *** join/#debian tyranny12 (~blarg@unaffiliated/tyranny12) |
| 08:20.36 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 08:21.03 | *** join/#debian lucifargundam (~lucifargu@c-73-116-38-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:21.11 | *** join/#debian daoud509 (~daoud509@lfbn-1-1052-21.w86-247.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:22.01 | *** join/#debian dionysus69 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69) |
| 08:22.40 | ZaZaGX | anyone up? |
| 08:28.52 | Habbie | ZaZaGX, just ask your question |
| 08:29.20 | *** join/#debian NetTerminalGene (~NetTermin@unaffiliated/dontknow) |
| 08:30.27 | ZaZaGX | my question is an ubuntu one |
| 08:31.44 | *** join/#debian CSP-SOFTWARE (~uwx@172.245.163.218) |
| 08:33.05 | *** join/#debian czart (~czart@acak210.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 08:33.30 | *** join/#debian Lord_of_Life_ (~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362) |
| 08:34.32 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 08:37.43 | *** join/#debian lucifargundam (~lucifargu@c-73-116-38-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:37.58 | *** join/#debian lowin (~lowin@unaffiliated/lowin) |
| 08:39.26 | lowin | Hi. I installed debian 10 armhf using debootstrap on an embedded device. It works almost fine but ssh service takes a long time to start. the systemd service times out a couple of times and then starts normally. Can't find any error messages it sort of just hangs. Any idea what might be wrong? |
| 08:39.56 | *** join/#debian Codier (~user@x5f7001ee.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 08:40.08 | lowin | I'm guessing it might have something to do with system not having enough random data after bootup? |
| 08:41.18 | *** join/#debian erin1983684 (~Eryn_1983@c-73-24-115-100.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 08:42.46 | diogenes_ | lowin, maybe you need haveged. |
| 08:44.22 | alkisg | If you stop it / start it much later manually, it starts fast? |
| 08:45.26 | *** join/#debian AfroThundr|main (~AfroThund@countervandalism/AfroThundr3007730) |
| 08:45.26 | lowin | Installing haveged solved the problem. thanks |
| 08:45.54 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 08:46.19 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-70-247.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 08:46.59 | *** join/#debian Ycarus (~Ycarus@2001:bc8:4400:2c00::f:b13) |
| 08:46.59 | ZaZaGX | wow that was fast |
| 08:48.27 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 08:48.37 | *** join/#debian PityDaFool (~AfroThund@countervandalism/AfroThundr3007730) |
| 08:49.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1479] by debhelper |
| 08:53.41 | *** join/#debian funnel (~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 08:54.03 | *** join/#debian nexgen2 (~nexgen@144.172.68.147) |
| 08:55.45 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@cpc132308-sgyl43-2-0-cust150.know.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:57.19 | *** join/#debian knidos (~knidos@85.99.54.94) |
| 08:59.55 | *** join/#debian BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 09:03.45 | *** join/#debian jubo2 (~juboxi@wikipedia/jukeboksi) |
| 09:06.32 | *** join/#debian m0u (~m0u@unaffiliated/m0u) |
| 09:06.53 | *** join/#debian Gazooo (~Gazooo@142.196.183.136) |
| 09:10.37 | *** join/#debian emOne (~emOne@static.70.184.251.148.clients.your-server.de) |
| 09:10.37 | *** join/#debian emOne (~emOne@unaffiliated/emone) |
| 09:12.57 | *** join/#debian wobelingers (~wobelinge@p5DCA5756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:17.30 | *** join/#debian krytarik (krytarik@xebian/developer/krytarik) |
| 09:22.31 | *** join/#debian Guest76238 (~Cy@37.72.60.188) |
| 09:25.59 | *** join/#debian zerotech1 (~zerotech@BSN-210-227-81.dynamic.siol.net) |
| 09:26.10 | *** join/#debian tadeus_brick (tadeustad@psifactor.pl) |
| 09:26.50 | *** join/#debian dastier (~dastier@37.214.77.30) |
| 09:27.18 | *** join/#debian dastier (~dastier@37.214.77.30) |
| 09:27.57 | *** join/#debian tagomago (~tagomago@static-109-40-231-77.ipcom.comunitel.net) |
| 09:29.33 | *** join/#debian tagomago (~tagomago@static-109-40-231-77.ipcom.comunitel.net) |
| 09:31.00 | *** join/#debian root__ (~viking@122.177.91.118) |
| 09:31.07 | root__ | Hi |
| 09:31.22 | *** join/#debian monstar (~mitya@192.169.7.177) |
| 09:31.42 | root__ | i need a small help regarding box 10.11.1.14 |
| 09:31.47 | root__ | priv escalation part |
| 09:31.50 | *** join/#debian tagomago (~tagomago@static-109-40-231-77.ipcom.comunitel.net) |
| 09:34.03 | Habbie | root__, are you sure you're in the right channel? |
| 09:35.09 | *** join/#debian Sepultura (~quassel@unaffiliated/sepultura) |
| 09:35.44 | Sepultura | where is the wrong arguement? sudo mount -t cifs -o user=name,password=secret //192.168.1.1 /media/Data/ |
| 09:36.31 | ZaZaGX | i think he is talking about that show, mr. robot with his kali linux box |
| 09:37.41 | *** join/#debian mathieu (~math@138.47.134.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:38.19 | Habbie | Sepultura, please check dmesg |
| 09:38.43 | useretail | Sepultura, you have space after IP |
| 09:39.19 | nvz | Sepultura: there is no share |
| 09:39.34 | nvz | you don't mount an ip address, you mount a share |
| 09:40.55 | useretail | nvz, right, or it's just share path is missing |
| 09:46.34 | nvz | Sepultura: I'd also advise against using that sudo...password thing |
| 09:48.09 | useretail | sudo mount -t cifs -o user=name,password=secret //192.168.1.1/your_share_name /media/Data/ |
| 09:49.42 | nvz | no its sudo mount -t cifs -o username=user,credentials=/path/to/0600/root/owned/file //ip/share /mount/point |
| 09:50.02 | nvz | running sudo suggests you are doing this as a user which means that command is going into an unpriv history file |
| 09:50.32 | nvz | the credentials= option is so you can specify a file that contains the credentials and you can make this file readable only by root |
| 09:51.22 | nvz | you can put the username,domain,password into a credentials file.. but you want to at least put the password there |
| 09:51.30 | nvz | if you either use sudo mount or fstab |
| 09:52.16 | useretail | nvz, yes, that's correct way |
| 09:52.38 | useretail | but for testing, i'd go with password option |
| 09:53.07 | nvz | I'm pretty sure if you dont specify it, it will ask without echoing |
| 09:55.16 | ZaZaGX | omg, i just found out mac os is not that secure, is debian more safe? |
| 09:55.44 | useretail | ZaZaGX, sure, if you know how to secure it |
| 09:56.28 | nvz | WIDHE |
| 09:56.50 | *** join/#debian ChubaDuba (~ChubaDuba@37.112.37.52) |
| 09:58.44 | *** join/#debian emOne_ (~emOne@2a02:908:697:eb00:f9b2:31a5:f63c:db15) |
| 10:00.26 | ZaZaGX | i'm not sure |
| 10:01.09 | *** join/#debian loumagnou (~louq@31.170.22.17) |
| 10:02.14 | *** join/#debian m0u (~m0u@unaffiliated/m0u) |
| 10:03.40 | ZaZaGX | how do i secure a debian machine? |
| 10:03.44 | *** join/#debian touki (~jgrosman@87.66.232.151) |
| 10:04.06 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi_ (~quassel@222.210.155.64) |
| 10:04.34 | useretail | ZaZaGX, https://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+i+secure+a+debian+machine |
| 10:05.12 | *** join/#debian him-cesjf (~cesjf@unaffiliated/himcesjf) |
| 10:05.16 | touki | Hi there. A problem with buster, that I did not have with stretch. My laptop is overheating (60 degrees without much activity). |
| 10:05.48 | diogenes_ | touki, gnome? |
| 10:05.57 | touki | diogenes_: indeed. |
| 10:06.12 | diogenes_ | no wonder then. |
| 10:06.26 | touki | diogenes_: why? |
| 10:06.45 | touki | diogenes_: the new gnome is more demanding? |
| 10:07.00 | *** join/#debian jfp (~jfernande@185.145.179.146) |
| 10:07.08 | diogenes_ | because it installs so many additional services and stuff that it's overwhelming, unattended-upgrades is one that comes to mind. |
| 10:07.25 | touki | diogenes_: a way to solve that? |
| 10:07.48 | useretail | touki, sudo apt remove --purge gnome* |
| 10:07.55 | diogenes_ | lol |
| 10:07.59 | touki | ^ |
| 10:08.05 | *** join/#debian flokuehn (~flokuehn@80-123-13-86.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 10:08.22 | touki | any less radical? |
| 10:08.29 | useretail | touki, try asking in gnome channel |
| 10:08.56 | Sepultura | solved |
| 10:09.00 | diogenes_ | try looking in: sudo powertop the device state tab and see what is using the most power, then look in gnome-system-mnitor for cpu demanding processes, then look in systemctl list-units for any suspicious services to disable. |
| 10:10.57 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 10:11.23 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@90.207.160.127) |
| 10:11.30 | touki | and what, you would go for XFCE or LXDE, instead? |
| 10:11.57 | useretail | uses KDE |
| 10:12.58 | diogenes_ | thinks xfce rocks and the newest 4.14 rocks even more. |
| 10:14.25 | BCMM | touki: does your laptop have a discrete gpu? if so, what driver are you using for it?> |
| 10:14.36 | BCMM | it's possible that you don't have power management working properly for the GPU |
| 10:15.11 | *** join/#debian soee (~soee@blj106.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 10:15.15 | touki | BCMM: no gpu. MacBook Air, but I believe the problem does not come from there, the only non-standard firmware I had to install is for WiFi. |
| 10:16.29 | f8e3_ | anyone too: W: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_60.7.2-1~deb9u1_amd64.deb |
| 10:16.30 | f8e3_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.10 | *** join/#debian RebelCoder (~RebelCode@81.2.153.198) |
| 10:26.06 | *** join/#debian emOne (~emOne@static.70.184.251.148.clients.your-server.de) |
| 10:26.06 | *** join/#debian emOne (~emOne@unaffiliated/emone) |
| 10:27.12 | ZaZaGX | i'm not sure how to secure my debian machine |
| 10:27.51 | *** join/#debian kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.4) |
| 10:28.27 | useretail | ZaZaGX, then Windows or MacOS would better for you |
| 10:29.13 | *** join/#debian touki (~jgrosman@87.66.232.151) |
| 10:30.17 | ZaZaGX | I can't afford both |
| 10:30.19 | *** join/#debian m0u (~m0u@unaffiliated/m0u) |
| 10:30.34 | ZaZaGX | or either or |
| 10:30.49 | touki | this being said, I have an ACPI error (needed type, AE_AML_OPERAND_TYPE, Method parse/execution), whenever I boot (this was also the case with stretch, but I never bothered, so I doubt it has to do with the heating). |
| 10:31.42 | *** join/#debian plasmik (~gentlelis@109.252.39.26) |
| 10:32.07 | useretail | ZaZaGX, then develop your own OS |
| 10:33.50 | kirk781 | Huh, I installed an app via snap but it never showed up in menu listings or starting via command line. I had to manually download the .deb ultimately |
| 10:34.13 | *** join/#debian k1ro (~k1ro@ec2-13-52-182-209.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 10:35.10 | useretail | ZaZaGX, https://wiki.debian.org/SetupGuides/SecurePersonalComputer |
| 10:36.21 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@85.255.235.158) |
| 10:37.15 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi_ (~quassel@222.210.155.64) |
| 10:38.27 | ZaZaGX | thanks |
| 10:39.18 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 10:39.26 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 10:40.25 | *** join/#debian cdown_ (~cdown@199.201.66.0) |
| 10:40.55 | *** join/#debian plasmik (~gentlelis@109-252-39-26.nat.spd-mgts.ru) |
| 10:44.50 | Jmabsd | Let's see how do you add an empty detached cdrom drive using virt-install hm |
| 10:46.48 | *** join/#debian CSP-SOFTWARE (~uwx@172.245.163.218) |
| 10:46.52 | *** join/#debian preview (~quassel@2407:7000:8423:b75:802e:c8e1:46d2:7ffa) |
| 10:47.10 | *** join/#debian ce9a (~dellrt@122.105.85.169) |
| 10:48.26 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi (~quassel@222.210.155.64) |
| 10:52.41 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~no_gravit@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 10:53.44 | no_gravity | Hello! There was a regression in libsane 1.027 that breaks my scanner. Would it be possible to scan from a docker image with an older Debian version? |
| 10:55.08 | *** join/#debian martin-_-_ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 10:55.08 | useretail | no_gravity, just get a package from oldstable |
| 10:55.25 | no_gravity | useretail: The libsane 1.025 package? |
| 10:55.28 | *** join/#debian Shahnaz_ (~Shahnaz@2a00:11c0:1337:b0f4:c121:957d:b163:4e73) |
| 10:55.34 | *** join/#debian OS-54258 (~OS-54258@ip98-164-217-225.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 10:56.18 | useretail | no_gravity, yes, looks like it's 1.0.25-4.1 |
| 10:56.34 | no_gravity | useretail: How would I do that? |
| 10:56.58 | useretail | no_gravity, but i would report it to libsane devs |
| 10:57.23 | useretail | so they could include support for your scanner in next release |
| 10:57.26 | no_gravity | useretail: The bug is well discussed around the net. Example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1731459 |
| 10:57.50 | no_gravity | At the bottom it says "This bug was fixed in the package sane-backends - 1.0.27-3.2ubuntu2" |
| 10:57.56 | no_gravity | But I don't know what that means. |
| 10:59.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1487] by debhelper |
| 11:01.04 | useretail | no_gravity, looks like it's fixed and currently is in sid |
| 11:01.32 | no_gravity | useretail: I have Debian 10. |
| 11:02.05 | useretail | sane-backends in buster is 1.0.27-3.2) |
| 11:02.28 | useretail | so it should be fixed |
| 11:02.46 | no_gravity | Oh, maybe this machine is not Debian 10 then. Let me check .. |
| 11:03.12 | no_gravity | How do I check my libsane version? |
| 11:04.06 | useretail | dpkg -s sane-backends | grep '^Version:' |
| 11:04.06 | dpkg | There is no record of a sane-backends | grep '^Version:' package |
| 11:04.28 | *** join/#debian Burek (~Burek@unaffiliated/burekzfinezt) |
| 11:04.31 | pasiz | sane-config --version |
| 11:04.45 | no_gravity | dpkg-query: package 'sane-backends' is not installed and no information is available |
| 11:05.11 | no_gravity | sane-config: command not found |
| 11:05.16 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.05 | pasiz | dpkg -s libsane-common |
| 11:06.06 | dpkg | Badgers ate my libsane-common! |
| 11:06.41 | *** join/#debian Burek (~Burek@unaffiliated/burekzfinezt) |
| 11:06.43 | useretail | no_gravity, apt-cache policy libsane |
| 11:07.35 | no_gravity | useretail: Installed: (none) |
| 11:07.51 | *** join/#debian gartt (~gart@ip68-14-86-104.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 11:08.17 | no_gravity | pasiz: Hmm.. that looks like 1.0.27-1 |
| 11:08.26 | *** part/#debian gartt (~gart@ip68-14-86-104.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 11:08.40 | useretail | also do lsb_release -a |
| 11:09.41 | *** join/#debian martin-_-__ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 11:09.41 | no_gravity | Hmm.. I see. It's a Mint machine. |
| 11:15.53 | *** join/#debian seppytw (~quassel@134.19.189.132) |
| 11:19.30 | *** join/#debian fatalerrors (~fatalerro@91.224.149.180) |
| 11:20.16 | *** join/#debian ivanm_ (~ivanm@79-101-148-171.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 11:20.37 | *** join/#debian oahong (~samigarus@unaffiliated/samigarus) |
| 11:20.46 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@mail.mobileforsale.ru) |
| 11:21.20 | *** join/#debian touki (~jgrosman@87.66.232.151) |
| 11:21.45 | touki | hey. trying to move from gnome tu xfce on Buster. how can I get xfce to appear in the display manager? |
| 11:22.36 | *** join/#debian Gyro (~user@x5f7001ee.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 11:22.41 | ratrace | touki: i think you have to restart gdm (or reboot) to have it pick up additional DEs, then look for the cog icon on login, next to the login button |
| 11:23.06 | ratrace | this assumes xfce installed along gdm/gnome |
| 11:23.21 | *** join/#debian fstd_ (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 11:23.37 | *** join/#debian n_1-c_k (~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70) |
| 11:23.54 | *** join/#debian greatgatsby (~greatgats@167.88.133.120) |
| 11:24.03 | touki | ratrace: indeed, I am on Gnome, I just installed XFCE. I reboot already, but I did not see the cog icon on login. I'll watch again. |
| 11:24.50 | *** join/#debian cnnx (~cizzi@unaffiliated/cnnx) |
| 11:24.50 | *** join/#debian tenknarf (b9e67f1c@185.230.127.28) |
| 11:24.55 | *** join/#debian beaver^ (~beaver@gateway/tor-sasl/beaver) |
| 11:25.12 | cnnx | ubuntu dropped support for 32bit but debian is keeping it right? i want to develop a program on a 20 year old Pentium 3 1ghz computer |
| 11:25.15 | cnnx | is this possible |
| 11:26.27 | ratrace | touki: iirc you have to click that "I'm not ..." or whatsitcalled button, so you're switched to the user selection screen first |
| 11:26.35 | ratrace | cnnx: yes |
| 11:26.48 | cnnx | ratrace: how long will they keep supporting 32bit? |
| 11:26.52 | cnnx | (debian) |
| 11:27.21 | *** part/#debian no_gravity (~no_gravit@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 11:27.35 | ratrace | cnnx: no plans to deprecate it as of yet, and if there will be, i'm guessing it'll be at least one, if not two stable releases in advance. |
| 11:27.45 | ratrace | meaning, at least not for the next 4 years, definitely. |
| 11:27.51 | cnnx | okay |
| 11:28.18 | ratrace | what might happen is debian dropping 32-bit isos/installers first, but not multilib support which btw, is what ubuntu is doing, they aren't removing multilib, so 32-bit programs will still run. |
| 11:28.18 | cnnx | maybe i should just use 64bit just to future proof my work |
| 11:28.35 | ratrace | cnnx: definitely. use 32-bit only if you really really really must. |
| 11:29.16 | *** join/#debian emOne_ (~emOne@5.146.198.181) |
| 11:29.17 | *** join/#debian ivanm_2 (~ivanm@79-101-148-171.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 11:30.01 | Abdullah | toucpad |
| 11:30.29 | Abdullah | touchpad stops working after some time. |
| 11:31.19 | *** join/#debian Bodiro (~quassel@2a0a-a540-f200-0-6c43-3a65-96ec-6f17.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de) |
| 11:32.43 | *** join/#debian slon_ (~slon@ip-86-49-28-90.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 11:33.41 | *** join/#debian P1ersson (~P1ersson@h-13-204.A165.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 11:43.38 | *** join/#debian savolla (~savolla@81.214.19.126) |
| 11:46.52 | *** join/#debian ioitboy (~ioitboy@120.84.9.112) |
| 11:49.01 | *** join/#debian kts (~kts@103.73.236.68) |
| 11:50.33 | useretail | Abdullah, may be related to kernel |
| 11:50.37 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p200300F573D667003800E7184984E4EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:50.52 | *** join/#debian Haudegen (~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at) |
| 11:52.07 | *** join/#debian cstls (~guy@2604:6000:9ec2:1000::4) |
| 11:53.38 | Jmabsd | "escape" (as in bring Telnet/SSH into command mode) is supposed to be which key combination? |
| 11:54.14 | Habbie | Jmabsd, different key combinations for both |
| 11:54.17 | Habbie | Jmabsd, which one? |
| 11:54.27 | Jmabsd | Habbie: actually right now virsh console |
| 11:54.45 | useretail | Jmabsd, ctrl+] |
| 11:54.58 | Jmabsd | ah, this keyboard mapping has no ] key |
| 11:55.14 | Habbie | try ctrl-5 |
| 11:55.23 | Habbie | longer list here https://superuser.com/questions/637669/how-to-exit-a-virsh-console-connection |
| 11:55.25 | Jmabsd | OH, ctrl-5 did kill it. hm! |
| 11:56.17 | *** join/#debian avantgardist (~desktop@ns354166.ip-91-121-101.eu) |
| 11:59.38 | *** join/#debian touki (~jgrosman@87.66.232.151) |
| 12:00.39 | *** join/#debian kouni (~kouni@180-176-77-104.dynamic.kbronet.com.tw) |
| 12:00.49 | *** join/#debian Burek (~Burek@unaffiliated/burekzfinezt) |
| 12:00.50 | touki | the crazy heating seems to have been related to gnome, it disappears with xfce. |
| 12:01.46 | useretail | touki, try to report in #gnome |
| 12:02.29 | useretail | maybe they implemeneted some bitcoin mining? :D |
| 12:03.51 | touki | useretail: will do! |
| 12:04.09 | touki | might be :p good idea for crowdounding DEs. |
| 12:04.32 | *** join/#debian toxync12- (~toxync12@223.72.37.195) |
| 12:05.07 | nvz | they implemented so much suckage it formed a black hole is what I prefer to believe if we're guessing |
| 12:05.41 | *** join/#debian kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.6) |
| 12:07.20 | *** join/#debian zamuro (~Samantha@147.red-2-138-40.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:07.20 | *** join/#debian zamuro (~Samantha@unaffiliated/zamuro) |
| 12:07.50 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@85.255.235.158) |
| 12:09.49 | *** join/#debian nurupo (~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo) |
| 12:11.51 | oo_miguel | which prlimits/ulimits apply to a single process (against which are systemwide)? I understand that nofile and nproc are added alltogether right? |
| 12:12.19 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 12:13.11 | *** join/#debian earend1 (uid170954@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbrodveyszmdmyxk) |
| 12:13.38 | *** join/#debian Jmabsd (~jmabsd@unaffiliated/jmabsd) |
| 12:15.24 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 12:15.46 | *** join/#debian rephlexie (~rephlexie@c-67-167-57-223.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 12:17.25 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~David@cpc132308-sgyl43-2-0-cust150.know.cable.virginm.net) |
| 12:19.11 | *** join/#debian CaptainN (~KevinKeen@unaffiliated/captainn) |
| 12:22.22 | *** join/#debian ivanm_2 (~ivanm@79-101-148-171.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 12:23.29 | *** join/#debian LtL (~ltl@unaffiliated/ltl) |
| 12:25.23 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hiqefchzsrvhtxyn) |
| 12:25.31 | *** join/#debian KOLANICH (~KOLANICH@unaffiliated/kolanich) |
| 12:25.31 | Jmabsd | re libvirt: In UEFI mode SeaBios will *NOT* be used right? |
| 12:26.22 | *** join/#debian saptech (~saptech@unaffiliated/saptech) |
| 12:26.43 | ivanm_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.13 | ivanm_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.18 | useretail | ivanm_2, remove space in front of your command |
| 12:29.28 | oo_miguel | and change your password :P |
| 12:29.32 | useretail | lol |
| 12:34.32 | *** join/#debian timur_davletshin (~timur_dav@unaffiliated/timur-davletshin/x-6536285) |
| 12:34.42 | *** join/#debian dasj19 (~dasj19@v6.vps.vikings.net) |
| 12:34.57 | *** join/#debian ioitboy (~ioitboy@120.84.9.112) |
| 12:36.45 | *** join/#debian ghost43 (~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer) |
| 12:38.21 | *** join/#debian de-facto (~de-facto@gateway/tor-sasl/de-facto) |
| 12:38.36 | *** join/#debian CombatVet (~c4@gateway/tor-sasl/combatvet) |
| 12:44.52 | *** join/#debian jnavila (~jnavila@2a01:e0a:d1:f360:33e:2802:50eb:d77d) |
| 12:45.27 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 12:48.21 | *** join/#debian beaver^ (~beaver@gateway/tor-sasl/beaver) |
| 12:49.11 | *** join/#debian martin-_-_ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 12:49.55 | *** join/#debian elkalamar (elkalamar@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/elkalamar) |
| 12:50.21 | *** join/#debian yvyz (~yvyz@gateway/tor-sasl/yvyz) |
| 12:51.14 | *** join/#debian whaf (~elsie@194.190.107.78) |
| 12:51.28 | *** join/#debian paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@c-68-34-113-42.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 12:52.30 | Mazhive | can some one tell me what i can use to set up a fileserver /streamserver concerning the filesystem xfs/zfs/btrfs/lvm+ext4+mergfs being used on harddisks nowadays. I need redundancy. allthough it is needed i dont need double parity or double mirroring.My main concern is i need to add disks any time i can. |
| 12:53.05 | Mazhive | any advice would be appreciated. |
| 12:54.06 | *** part/#debian whaf (~elsie@194.190.107.78) |
| 12:57.47 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 12:58.04 | *** join/#debian a_l_b (~a_l_b@190.108.140.77.rev.sfr.net) |
| 13:00.26 | *** join/#debian CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) |
| 13:04.39 | *** join/#debian b (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 13:07.18 | *** join/#debian simba_ (~simba@124.160.215.184) |
| 13:09.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1493] by debhelper |
| 13:11.05 | *** join/#debian CSP-SOFTWARE (~uwx@172.245.163.218) |
| 13:11.10 | *** join/#debian miklos1 (b906bfd1@185.6.191.209) |
| 13:14.00 | *** join/#debian simpledat (~unknown@unaffiliated/simpledat) |
| 13:14.49 | *** join/#debian simba_ (~simba@124.160.215.184) |
| 13:15.13 | simba_ | how can i install banshee or some itunes alternative on buster? it's not in the repos after stretch |
| 13:16.32 | Habbie | ,v banshee |
| 13:16.33 | judd | Package: banshee on amd64 -- jessie: 2.6.2-3; stretch: 2.6.2-6.1 |
| 13:16.38 | *** join/#debian digin4 (~digin4@unaffiliated/digin4) |
| 13:17.04 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 13:17.07 | *** part/#debian miklos1 (b906bfd1@185.6.191.209) |
| 13:17.26 | simba_ | also amarok |
| 13:17.31 | simba_ | ,v amarok |
| 13:17.32 | judd | Package: amarok on amd64 -- jessie: 2.8.0-2.1+b1; stretch: 2.8.0-8 |
| 13:17.50 | Habbie | simba_, rhythmbox then? |
| 13:18.06 | simba_ | i know how to install a buster package on stretch, but not a stretch app on buster |
| 13:18.17 | simba_ | Habbie, it's not detecting my apple device |
| 13:18.28 | Habbie | ah, i assumed you wanted to play some mp3s |
| 13:18.32 | Habbie | but you really want to manage a device |
| 13:18.37 | Habbie | what device is it? |
| 13:18.40 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi (~quassel@222.210.155.64) |
| 13:18.56 | simba_ | iphone/ipod iphone 6 or 7 not sure. |
| 13:20.01 | *** join/#debian forgon (~forgon@unaffiliated/commander-cody/x-9618197) |
| 13:22.40 | *** join/#debian simba__ (~simba@39.188.104.56) |
| 13:22.57 | simba__ | sorry, buster crashed lol |
| 13:23.34 | *** join/#debian Vizva (~Vizva@gateway/tor-sasl/vizva) |
| 13:24.40 | *** join/#debian simba__ (~simba@39.188.104.56) |
| 13:24.59 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.121.115) |
| 13:26.02 | *** join/#debian ce9a (~dellrt@122.105.85.169) |
| 13:26.35 | *** join/#debian Greyztar (~irc@gateway/tor-sasl/greyztar) |
| 13:27.03 | *** join/#debian simba_ (~simba@124.160.215.184) |
| 13:27.41 | *** join/#debian simba_ (~simba@124.160.215.184) |
| 13:28.06 | CrystalMath | i'm still sad about XMSS |
| 13:28.08 | CrystalMath | *XMMS |
| 13:28.14 | CrystalMath | i mean, xmms1 |
| 13:28.31 | Habbie | beep boop |
| 13:28.50 | dvs | the player? |
| 13:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1499] by debhelper |
| 13:29.22 | CrystalMath | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=911200 |
| 13:29.23 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/911200 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: banshee/experimental -- RoQA; unmaintained, depends on ancient GNOME libraries»; severity: normal; opened: 2018-10-17; last modified: 2018-12-17. |
| 13:29.27 | CrystalMath | dvs: yes |
| 13:30.16 | dvs | meh |
| 13:31.25 | CrystalMath | amarok was removed because "Obsolete libs - Qt4, no Qt5 release" |
| 13:31.35 | CrystalMath | uh oh, i don't like this, did debian kill qt4? |
| 13:31.45 | CrystalMath | apparently not |
| 13:31.50 | CrystalMath | i can still compile qt4 apps |
| 13:32.23 | dvs | is amarok linked agains qt4 binaries? |
| 13:32.32 | CrystalMath | yes |
| 13:32.40 | CrystalMath | well idk |
| 13:32.44 | *** join/#debian simba_ (~simba@124.160.215.184) |
| 13:32.45 | CrystalMath | it's not in debian anymore |
| 13:32.47 | CrystalMath | it was removed |
| 13:32.57 | CrystalMath | because of a qt4 dependency |
| 13:33.01 | CrystalMath | except qt4 still exists |
| 13:33.07 | *** join/#debian samba35 (~shrikant@unaffiliated/samba35) |
| 13:33.15 | samba35 | is dpdk replace or capible to replace sriov or dpdk add more features to sriov ? |
| 13:33.28 | *** join/#debian MenschZwoNull (~MenschZwo@p200300C8571712008D9A59977F2B7A2C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:33.44 | samba35 | is dpdk replace or capable to replace sriov or dpdk add more features to sriov ? |
| 13:34.25 | Habbie | samba35, you just asked that 30 seconds ago |
| 13:34.47 | simba_ | CrystalMath, so i should just compile it myself |
| 13:35.21 | *** join/#debian mendieta (~mendieta@host201.181-12-16.telecom.net.ar) |
| 13:35.26 | samba35 | spelling mistake |
| 13:36.16 | CrystalMath | yeah but isn't it stupid to remove a package because of a library |
| 13:36.19 | CrystalMath | but keep the library |
| 13:37.58 | dvs | CrystalMath, depends if the library is still maintained |
| 13:38.36 | CrystalMath | right i suppose it could be a soft transition kind of thing |
| 13:38.43 | CrystalMath | get people to use different software first |
| 13:38.47 | CrystalMath | then remove the library |
| 13:38.49 | *** join/#debian The`Unforgiven (~BHT@94.155.42.130) |
| 13:38.59 | Habbie | sqlite2 is still around because of, like, 3 programs |
| 13:39.06 | CrystalMath | anyway, now i have to install xmms1 :P |
| 13:39.17 | saptech | what about juk? |
| 13:39.56 | *** join/#debian mvaenskae (~mvaenskae@unaffiliated/mvaenskae) |
| 13:42.28 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (Python1320@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 13:42.53 | simba_ | wait, can I just # apt-get install -t=sid amarok # ??? |
| 13:43.21 | Habbie | !frankendebian |
| 13:43.21 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall> |
| 13:43.27 | dvs | simba_, you could but you run the risk of pulling in other sid packages. |
| 13:44.37 | *** join/#debian Envil (~Envil@55d491c7.access.ecotel.net) |
| 13:44.43 | dvs | ,check-backport amarok |
| 13:44.44 | judd | No package named 'amarok' was found in sid/amd64. |
| 13:45.10 | dvs | hmmmmm |
| 13:48.14 | *** join/#debian simba__ (~simba@39.188.104.56) |
| 13:48.40 | Bushmills | clementine -> "It is largely a port of Amarok 1.4" |
| 13:48.56 | *** join/#debian thefatma (~thefatma@31.154.190.6) |
| 13:49.53 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi_ (~quassel@222.210.155.64) |
| 13:50.42 | *** join/#debian whaf (~elsie@194.190.107.78) |
| 13:50.44 | Bushmills | ,v clementine |
| 13:50.45 | judd | Package: clementine on amd64 -- jessie: 1.2.3+dfsg-2+b1; stretch: 1.3.1+git276-g3485bbe43+dfsg-1; buster: 1.3.1+git609-g623a53681+dfsg-1; bullseye: 1.3.1+git609-g623a53681+dfsg-1+b6; sid: 1.3.1+git609-g623a53681+dfsg-1+b6 |
| 13:50.50 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@90.207.160.127) |
| 13:51.44 | Habbie | clementine also claims to support ipod/iphone/mtp |
| 13:53.13 | *** join/#debian OS-19416 (~OS-19416@94.129.248.146) |
| 13:56.20 | *** join/#debian SlurpyBeckerman (~jordan@124.188.229.82) |
| 13:58.58 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 13:59.45 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@223.72.39.253) |
| 14:02.20 | *** join/#debian Newami (~Newami@ip174-68-64-138.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 14:02.36 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 14:02.53 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@223.72.37.195) |
| 14:03.06 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 14:04.08 | *** join/#debian mallxs (~mallxs@159-147-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 14:05.11 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 14:05.36 | *** join/#debian lurq (~lurq@197.0.228.72) |
| 14:06.22 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@114.249.207.28) |
| 14:09.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1506] by debhelper |
| 14:09.41 | *** join/#debian zeden (~user@unaffiliated/zeden) |
| 14:10.25 | *** join/#debian Jerrynicki (~niklas@p200300F573D667003800E7184984E4EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:12.09 | *** join/#debian B4ckBOne (~B4ckBOne@aftr-62-216-207-128.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:12.51 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@114.249.207.28) |
| 14:14.56 | CrystalMath | oh i was about to suggest |
| 14:14.58 | CrystalMath | manually backporting |
| 14:15.07 | CrystalMath | fetching the sid package |
| 14:15.11 | CrystalMath | and compiling for buster |
| 14:15.13 | CrystalMath | should work |
| 14:15.22 | LtL | !ssb |
| 14:15.22 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 14:15.56 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.217.13) |
| 14:16.52 | LtL | ^^^^ proceed at your own peril :) |
| 14:17.02 | dvs | backport what package? |
| 14:18.49 | *** part/#debian whaf (~elsie@194.190.107.78) |
| 14:20.02 | LtL | dvs: i'm assuming amarok and or banshee? |
| 14:22.15 | dvs | LtL, amarok is not in sid so it's not that. |
| 14:22.35 | dvs | ,v banshee |
| 14:22.36 | judd | Package: banshee on amd64 -- jessie: 2.6.2-3; stretch: 2.6.2-6.1 |
| 14:23.31 | LtL | dvs: simba__ was inquiring but he left. |
| 14:23.33 | Habbie | the same procedure works for forward porting |
| 14:23.36 | Habbie | roughly |
| 14:24.55 | *** join/#debian bsdnoob (~bsdnoob@49.207.50.55) |
| 14:28.41 | *** join/#debian shrikant_ (~shrikant@157.33.166.231) |
| 14:29.02 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 14:29.13 | *** join/#debian whislock (~whislock@arcturus.xsecure.io) |
| 14:29.40 | *** join/#debian p0lyph3m (~p0lyph3m@2a02:810d:640:776c:76d7:55f6:f85b:c889) |
| 14:30.09 | *** join/#debian Thedarkb-T60 (~Thedarkb-@51-171-48-137-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net) |
| 14:34.35 | *** join/#debian jnavila (~jnavila@82-64-51-39.subs.proxad.net) |
| 14:36.48 | *** join/#debian zeden (~user@unaffiliated/zeden) |
| 14:38.28 | *** join/#debian datdus (~datdus@94-168-35-66.static.v4.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 14:38.31 | *** join/#debian isoxe (~isoxe4@ua-85-229-189-162.bbcust.telenor.se) |
| 14:41.53 | *** join/#debian MenschZwoNull (~MenschZwo@p200300C85717120048D17D9814004552.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:44.45 | *** join/#debian jpmh (~jpmh@2603:300b:906:c100:2957:2f62:f022:f674) |
| 14:45.44 | *** join/#debian cstls (~guy@2604:6000:9ec2:1000::4) |
| 14:47.16 | *** join/#debian bliv (~bliv@unaffiliated/blivande) |
| 14:48.04 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@93.238.187.189) |
| 14:48.04 | *** join/#debian Space_Man (~Space_Man@87-127-156-98.static.enta.net) |
| 14:48.09 | *** join/#debian Pr0metheus (~nezos@46-208-135.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 14:48.51 | *** join/#debian Pr0metheus (~nezos@46-208-135.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 14:49.25 | *** join/#debian Pr0metheus (~nezos@46-208-135.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 14:49.32 | *** join/#debian rossie (~cesar@121.175.208.186) |
| 14:53.46 | *** join/#debian MenschZwoNull (~MenschZwo@p200300C85717120048D17D9814004552.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:55.48 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-70-247.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 14:57.41 | *** join/#debian woenx (~quassel@247.91.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 14:58.16 | *** join/#debian kirk781 (~kirk781@203.110.242.23) |
| 15:00.13 | *** join/#debian Epakai (~Epakai@drislock.org) |
| 15:01.53 | *** join/#debian MenschZwoNull (~MenschZwo@p200300C85717120048D17D9814004552.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:02.54 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a79-169-92-77.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 15:03.30 | *** join/#debian m0rd3cai (~m0rd3cai@unaffiliated/m0rd3cai) |
| 15:04.07 | *** join/#debian ChmEarl (~chmearl@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 15:05.13 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@88.202.180.213) |
| 15:05.16 | *** join/#debian combro2k (~combro2k@gateway/tor-sasl/combro2k) |
| 15:08.24 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@unaffiliated/format-c/x-8927423) |
| 15:10.00 | *** join/#debian thelastjedi_ (~quassel@222.210.155.64) |
| 15:13.08 | *** join/#debian xred_ (~xred@105.106.194.68) |
| 15:13.11 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@unaffiliated/mtn) |
| 15:13.19 | *** join/#debian jpmh (~jpmh@2603:300b:906:c100:2957:2f62:f022:f674) |
| 15:17.26 | *** join/#debian tradar (~tradar@gateway/tor-sasl/tradar) |
| 15:20.22 | Mazhive | does the latest debian support Intel EXPI9404PT PRO/1000 PT Quad Port Server out of the box ?? |
| 15:20.36 | Mazhive | NIC |
| 15:21.03 | *** join/#debian _till_ (~till@152.170.120.79) |
| 15:21.03 | *** join/#debian _till_ (~till@unaffiliated/till/x-7804721) |
| 15:25.01 | *** join/#debian Liam19 (~Liam19@197.0.228.72) |
| 15:25.21 | *** join/#debian MenschZwoNull (~MenschZwo@p200300C85717120048D17D9814004552.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:27.20 | weedloser | well, it's rather the kernel in debian you should care about. |
| 15:27.23 | weedloser | how new is it? |
| 15:33.30 | *** join/#debian uNmowed (~Kaede@46.48.160.174) |
| 15:34.12 | Habbie | Mazhive, knowing the PCI vendor and device ID might help |
| 15:35.40 | Mazhive | ah oke. well i have not bought it yet but i want to know if i can use it for my build wanne use it for link agregation since i know these cards has the protocol support for it.. |
| 15:38.03 | *** join/#debian upupbb-user1 (~puppy@ip5f5ad280.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 15:38.21 | *** join/#debian pand0ra1337^BNC (~pand0ra13@ipbcc01ef9.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 15:40.41 | *** join/#debian paulgrmn (~paulgrmn@c-68-34-113-42.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 15:40.46 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-70-247.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 15:41.25 | *** join/#debian varaindemian (~varaindem@86.124.22.4) |
| 15:43.00 | Mazhive | i am going to use it in a asus b450 ASUS TUF B450 for my new build file server |
| 15:43.42 | *** join/#debian wolfgangr (~wolfgangr@82.213.217.142) |
| 15:45.37 | weedloser | ah, i see |
| 15:46.11 | weedloser | generally a backported kernel would help with zen 2 |
| 15:47.18 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Herbert@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 15:47.46 | *** join/#debian thefatma (~thefatma@bzq-109-67-102-100.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 15:49.16 | Mazhive | it will stream local files and transcode from it so i need relatively speedy cpu and i think it willl suit my needs with these hardware |
| 15:51.01 | Mazhive | but some inside information would help to make the build as smooth as my knowledge would go. |
| 15:52.14 | m0rd3cai | got a quick question if someone can help. found a file with arbitrary name but the content is just a text string, I cant decide what encoding if anyone has any ideas. My best guess is a ssh key maybe. |
| 15:52.19 | m0rd3cai | http://paste.debian.net/1097307/ |
| 15:53.28 | Habbie | m0rd3cai, that's a nice puzzle you got there |
| 15:53.46 | Habbie | m0rd3cai, it decodes as base64 but then i still don't know what it's supposed to be :) |
| 15:55.15 | m0rd3cai | does it? |
| 15:55.31 | m0rd3cai | its a VM for CTF practice so its there for a reason :-) |
| 15:55.42 | m0rd3cai | lets look at that again |
| 15:56.05 | *** join/#debian martin-_-__ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 15:56.49 | *** join/#debian czart (~czart@acak210.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 15:59.16 | *** join/#debian Pr0metheus (~nezos@46-208-135.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 15:59.45 | *** join/#debian CuriousGuy (~Mutter@197.0.228.72) |
| 16:02.40 | *** join/#debian m0rd3cai (~m0rd3cai@edge.qcc.io) |
| 16:02.50 | *** join/#debian aliasnumber10 (~crix@cpe-76-167-192-248.san.res.rr.com) |
| 16:03.57 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-70-247.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 16:04.33 | *** join/#debian toxync12- (~toxync12@223.72.93.167) |
| 16:06.22 | *** join/#debian leandrovianna (~leandrovi@179.221.111.139) |
| 16:07.52 | *** join/#debian yonder (~yonder@unaffiliated/yonder) |
| 16:08.12 | *** join/#debian plantroon (~plantroon@91.236.69.232) |
| 16:08.58 | *** join/#debian martin-_-___ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 16:09.06 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 16:10.17 | *** join/#debian m0rd3cai_ (~m0rd3cai@edge.qcc.io) |
| 16:11.11 | *** join/#debian nuuuciano (~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano) |
| 16:12.23 | *** join/#debian melpy (~melpy@gateway/tor-sasl/melpy) |
| 16:15.50 | *** join/#debian BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 16:18.21 | *** join/#debian kts (~kts@103.73.236.68) |
| 16:19.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1500] by debhelper |
| 16:19.59 | *** join/#debian kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzkdqqfzodobwkce) |
| 16:20.26 | *** join/#debian woenx (~quassel@247.91.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 16:21.26 | *** join/#debian Guest94451 (~tls@189.27.122.162.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 16:21.35 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 16:26.03 | *** join/#debian shibboleth (~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 16:26.07 | *** join/#debian nova (~nova@188.247.74.224) |
| 16:28.10 | *** part/#debian nova (~nova@188.247.74.224) |
| 16:28.34 | *** join/#debian heichblatt (~heichblat@91.65.232.52) |
| 16:29.23 | *** join/#debian BeetleKing (~worldss@197.0.228.72) |
| 16:30.30 | *** join/#debian greatgatsby (~greatgats@167.88.133.120) |
| 16:33.00 | useretail | i have multiarch, how can i after installation execute 32-bit version of the app? |
| 16:36.39 | *** join/#debian thePiGrepper (~nagato@190.236.81.28) |
| 16:37.12 | *** join/#debian heichblatt (~heichblat@91.65.232.52) |
| 16:38.05 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@120.244.119.201) |
| 16:40.09 | *** join/#debian monkey-b0 (~monkey-b@91.86.208.90) |
| 16:42.31 | *** join/#debian plasticle (~plasticle@cpe-107-15-166-189.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 16:42.48 | *** join/#debian ilbelkyr (~ilbelkyr@freenode/staff/atheme.ilbelkyr) |
| 16:43.54 | useretail | anyone? |
| 16:44.19 | Habbie | useretail, if you can tell me how to get multiarch, i can probably find out how to execute things |
| 16:44.30 | *** join/#debian ilbelkyr (~ilbelkyr@freenode/staff/atheme.ilbelkyr) |
| 16:46.12 | useretail | Habbie, dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 16:46.12 | Habbie | useretail, oh, just run it - the location of an app does not depend on its arch |
| 16:46.17 | Habbie | yes, found it |
| 16:46.50 | useretail | i have old scanner that has only 32-bit proprietary drivers |
| 16:47.07 | useretail | if i install two |
| 16:47.33 | *** join/#debian martin-_-____ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 16:47.34 | useretail | *sane-backends, how to run 32-bin one? |
| 16:47.48 | Habbie | you cannot install two |
| 16:47.51 | Habbie | you install the 32 bit one |
| 16:48.22 | useretail | but i need 64-bit one for another scanner |
| 16:48.26 | *** join/#debian antiFastFood (~burger@197.0.228.72) |
| 16:49.19 | Habbie | multiarch cannot help with that, as far as i know |
| 16:49.42 | *** join/#debian Makerblaker (~Makerblak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net) |
| 16:49.43 | useretail | so what's the purpose of multiarch? |
| 16:50.44 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 16:55.24 | *** join/#debian dasj19 (~dasj19@v6.vps.vikings.net) |
| 16:55.25 | Habbie | useretail, to mix architectures between -different- packages |
| 16:55.42 | *** join/#debian we6jbo (~we6jbo@2606:6000:c086:6a00:9dd3:9638:6d5f:3143) |
| 16:56.54 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 16:58.31 | *** join/#debian big_guy24 (~fullhouse@197.0.228.72) |
| 16:58.58 | *** join/#debian abstradelic (~abstradel@177.180.234.171) |
| 16:59.25 | *** join/#debian Deihmos (uid212731@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejztmfahxdnixucn) |
| 17:00.01 | *** part/#debian abstradelic (~abstradel@177.180.234.171) |
| 17:00.18 | *** join/#debian Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) |
| 17:00.47 | *** join/#debian eb0t (~eblip@unaffiliated/eblip) |
| 17:01.22 | *** join/#debian eblip (~eblip@unaffiliated/eblip) |
| 17:01.30 | *** join/#debian sirfarquad (~sirfq@cpe-173-174-124-118.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 17:04.49 | *** join/#debian argusbr (~tls@unaffiliated/argusbr) |
| 17:04.59 | *** join/#debian sysmox (~mox@gateway/tor-sasl/sysmox) |
| 17:06.15 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~no_gravit@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 17:07.14 | *** join/#debian jnavila (~jnavila@2a01:e0a:d1:f360:33e:2802:50eb:d77d) |
| 17:07.22 | no_gravity | I'm trying to run "scanimage" in a Docker container. Is the simplest way to do that "apt install xsane; apt install scanimage" in the containter? |
| 17:08.03 | *** join/#debian martin-_-_____ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 17:09.16 | Habbie | no_gravity, the simplets way would be to 'apt install sane-utils' |
| 17:09.24 | no_gravity | Habbie: Ok, will try that. |
| 17:09.50 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 17:13.50 | *** join/#debian casaca (~nut@209.222.10.61) |
| 17:15.06 | *** join/#debian woenx (~quassel@static-77-85-86-188.ipcom.comunitel.net) |
| 17:15.31 | *** join/#debian chrissl (~chris@089144209165.atnat0018.highway.a1.net) |
| 17:15.56 | no_gravity | Ok. Now I need to figure out how to provide the Docker container access to the scanner. |
| 17:16.56 | *** join/#debian dab21 (~dab21@pistis.amyanddavid.net) |
| 17:19.09 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@85.203.20.23) |
| 17:21.15 | no_gravity | I tried "-v /dev/bus/usb:/dev/bus/usb" but get only "Input/Output Error"s from sane-find-scanner. |
| 17:21.59 | *** join/#debian ZaZaGX (kenny@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/zazagx) |
| 17:22.07 | ZaZaGX | hola |
| 17:23.40 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 17:24.01 | no_gravity | Ha! With --privileged it finds it! |
| 17:24.22 | *** join/#debian freetime (~freetime@95.65.124.167) |
| 17:27.25 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@devuan/community/mns) |
| 17:29.50 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 17:31.12 | *** join/#debian gareppa (~gareppa@197.0.228.72) |
| 17:32.34 | *** join/#debian nirae_ (~nirae@2a01cb0402cc4b0008c0c589cd2a2f48.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:32.38 | *** join/#debian martin-_-_____ (~default@84-113-146-107.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 17:33.36 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 17:35.44 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 17:36.06 | *** join/#debian KnoP (~andreas@p57B198A0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:38.51 | *** join/#debian Giotis (~Giotis@unaffiliated/giotis) |
| 17:38.53 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 17:41.24 | *** join/#debian BUNDA_DOM_CS (~mamih_CS_@197.0.228.72) |
| 17:43.37 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 17:43.50 | *** join/#debian VadPerevad (~vadpereva@95-37-84-14.dynamic.mts-nn.ru) |
| 17:47.05 | *** join/#debian whaf (~elsie@195.91.189.90) |
| 17:48.45 | *** join/#debian czesmir (~stefan@egp58.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 17:48.59 | *** join/#debian maggotbrain (~maggotbra@c-73-254-248-250.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:49.05 | *** join/#debian ilbelkyr (ilbelkyr@freenode/staff/atheme.ilbelkyr) |
| 17:52.36 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 17:54.59 | *** join/#debian diogenes_ (~diogenes_@188.208.121.170) |
| 17:55.49 | *** join/#debian amphiprions (~amphiprio@82-64-46-151.subs.proxad.net) |
| 17:56.03 | *** join/#debian argusbr (~tls@unaffiliated/argusbr) |
| 17:56.24 | *** join/#debian wokasaur (wokasaur@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/wokasaur) |
| 18:02.23 | *** join/#debian himcesjf_ (~cesjf@unaffiliated/himcesjf) |
| 18:02.39 | *** join/#debian Tom-_ (tomg@64-7-147-218.agas1a-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 18:03.35 | *** join/#debian co_kimochi8 (~androirc@197.0.228.72) |
| 18:04.35 | *** join/#debian greatgatsby (~greatgats@167.88.133.120) |
| 18:05.17 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 18:06.20 | *** join/#debian Freshnuts (~Freshnuts@71-222-32-230.lsv2.qwest.net) |
| 18:06.33 | *** join/#debian martigan (~martigan@162.251.232.107) |
| 18:07.10 | *** join/#debian torbo (~user@162.249.163.177) |
| 18:08.31 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@devuan/community/mns) |
| 18:10.26 | *** join/#debian martigan (~martigan@162.251.232.107) |
| 18:10.37 | *** join/#debian meLon (~meLon@unaffiliated/earthmelon) |
| 18:12.25 | martigan | Hello everyone! Is adding net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 =1 to /etc/sysctl.conf the preferred way to disable ipv6? |
| 18:13.33 | no_gravity | martigan: I use these 3 lines: |
| 18:13.37 | no_gravity | sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 |
| 18:13.41 | no_gravity | sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1 |
| 18:13.46 | no_gravity | sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1 |
| 18:14.58 | no_gravity | That is not disabling it permanently though. I only disable it sometimes. |
| 18:15.25 | *** join/#debian Soo_Slow (Soo_Slow@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sooslow/x-31376162) |
| 18:17.16 | *** join/#debian ZaZaGX (kenny@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/zazagx) |
| 18:19.07 | SerajewelKS | no_gravity: setting .all and .default should be sufficient |
| 18:19.13 | SerajewelKS | no_gravity: .all will implicitly set .lo |
| 18:19.27 | SerajewelKS | (.all might also implicitly set .default) |
| 18:20.37 | no_gravity | SerajewelKS: Ok, thanks! |
| 18:21.46 | *** join/#debian StalkerRiga (~Stalker@89.201.5.246) |
| 18:22.26 | *** join/#debian whaf (~elsie@195.91.189.90) |
| 18:23.11 | *** join/#debian cseder (~textual@62.141-0-116.customer.lyse.net) |
| 18:23.53 | martigan | thanks, is there a way to make the changes permanent? after reboot the changes appear to stay. |
| 18:25.43 | *** join/#debian Sepultura (~quassel@unaffiliated/sepultura) |
| 18:25.58 | *** join/#debian srgg (~srgg@113.44.159.143.dyn.plus.net) |
| 18:27.30 | ayekat | martigan: /etc/sysctl.d/ |
| 18:27.52 | ayekat | (see /usr/lib/sysctl.d for a reference - I guess there may be some sysctl files already installed by packages) |
| 18:28.54 | SerajewelKS | note that /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf is a symlink to /etc/sysctl.conf by default, so you can store local changes in /etc/sysctl.conf and they'll get picked up |
| 18:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1507] by debhelper |
| 18:29.02 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 18:33.55 | martigan | Thank you! |
| 18:35.19 | *** join/#debian OerHeks (~Andy@ubuntu/member/oerheks) |
| 18:35.31 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@c114-77-254-225.rochd21.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 18:39.33 | *** join/#debian lucifargundam (~lucifargu@c-73-116-38-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:40.00 | *** join/#debian CSP-SOFTWARE (~uwx@172.245.163.218) |
| 18:48.03 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@2408:8207:18e6:f200:99e6:b756:4b5e:f47f) |
| 18:52.30 | *** join/#debian leandrovianna (~leandrovi@179.221.111.139) |
| 18:52.48 | *** join/#debian governor (~governor@41.190.2.156) |
| 18:52.55 | *** join/#debian dastier (~dastier@mm-180-34-120-178.brest.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by) |
| 18:53.17 | Reventlov | Hi there. |
| 18:54.11 | martigan | Hi! |
| 18:55.08 | Reventlov | this might be a weird one but⦠I just installed bsd-mailx, and it seems it sends mail just fine |
| 18:55.32 | Reventlov | I thought I had to configure a MTA, but it seems my debian already has one. But which one? I configured opensmtpd, but it seems it's not using this one. |
| 18:56.01 | Reventlov | http://0x0.st/z4se.txt this is my dpkg -l list |
| 18:56.13 | Habbie | Reventlov, find out what provides your 'sendmail' binary, i think |
| 18:56.36 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 18:56.53 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 18:57.54 | Habbie | Reventlov, that said, it seems likely that it is in fact opensmtpd |
| 18:58.21 | Habbie | Reventlov, ls -al /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 18:58.25 | Reventlov | yeah, opensmtpd is providing sendmail but⦠|
| 18:59.32 | *** join/#debian zeden (~user@unaffiliated/zeden) |
| 18:59.45 | Reventlov | or maybe configuration didn't work out. |
| 19:00.45 | *** join/#debian v1nc1_ (~v1nc1@public-gprs402083.centertel.pl) |
| 19:01.43 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:03.48 | Bushmills | Reventlov: when trying to install another, package manager will tell you which already installed MTA conflicts, and suggests to remove it |
| 19:04.33 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@2408:8207:18e6:f200:99e6:b756:4b5e:f47f) |
| 19:05.03 | Bushmills | alternatively is dpkg -S a method |
| 19:06.41 | *** join/#debian oo_miguel (~miguel@89-72-186-97.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 19:06.57 | *** join/#debian Gazooo (~Gazooo@142.196.183.136) |
| 19:06.57 | *** join/#debian vivid (~ViViD@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 19:07.28 | *** join/#debian LvmhmGVJox (~Urangst@186.214.177.134) |
| 19:08.41 | *** join/#debian bbugyi (~bbugyi200@pool-173-71-68-161.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:09.30 | *** join/#debian zalt (~lambda443@unaffiliated/lambda443) |
| 19:10.51 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:12.19 | Reventlov | Ok, it was just opensmtpd whose configuration was badly formatted, but still started, so⦠|
| 19:13.04 | *** join/#debian governor (~governor@41.190.2.156) |
| 19:13.56 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:15.28 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:19.25 | *** join/#debian troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) |
| 19:21.11 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:22.33 | *** join/#debian grobi (~rtng@unaffiliated/grobi) |
| 19:26.17 | *** join/#debian freedom (~freedom@75.175.142.157) |
| 19:26.30 | *** join/#debian Rhuarc (~Rhuarc-@enigmavoid.com) |
| 19:29.30 | *** join/#debian Apeiron` (~Apeiron@enigmavoid.com) |
| 19:30.08 | *** join/#debian Xizor (~Xizor@2001:41d0:52:100::5ec) |
| 19:34.17 | *** join/#debian mase-tech (~mase-tech@2a02:908:1875:c600:44ca:f669:e4ec:7e54) |
| 19:36.23 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@unaffiliated/debsan) |
| 19:36.36 | *** join/#debian mirage335 (~mirage335@2001:470:8ede:0:216:3eff:fe97:ac6d) |
| 19:37.01 | *** join/#debian s00x (594e067b@89-78-6-123.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 19:37.31 | s00x | hey, I'm not sure if this is correct channel, but whhy after apt-get upgrade my firefox-esr changed homepage to example.com ? |
| 19:37.58 | *** join/#debian simpledat (~unknown@unaffiliated/simpledat) |
| 19:38.03 | *** join/#debian Namarrgon (~Namarrgon@archlinux/op/namarrgon) |
| 19:38.07 | *** join/#debian th0r (~th0r@174-28-46-250.albq.qwest.net) |
| 19:39.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1514] by debhelper |
| 19:39.02 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~quassel@S01067cb21be064e0.gv.shawcable.net) |
| 19:40.02 | *** join/#debian belanthor (~belan@x2f7fa69.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 19:41.37 | *** join/#debian Newami (~Newami@ip174-68-64-138.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 19:41.41 | *** join/#debian ml| (~ml|@unaffiliated/ml/x-3958674) |
| 19:41.47 | *** join/#debian n_1-c_k (~n_1-c_k@2a02:8010:63a6::70) |
| 19:43.55 | telmich | Good evening everyone! We are looking for some (open source) hackers to join us in Switzerland - would it be ok to post the URL in here or is it too offtopic? |
| 19:49.16 | *** join/#debian lucifargundam (~lucifargu@c-73-116-38-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:49.17 | diogenes_ | telmich, is it going to be another cicada 3301? |
| 19:56.23 | *** join/#debian ZaZaGX (kenny@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/zazagx) |
| 19:56.54 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 19:56.57 | ZaZaGX | do i need to set a GRUB password? if so, why? |
| 19:57.26 | *** join/#debian brutser (57434136@54.65-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:57.59 | EmleyMoor | ZaZaGX: Can you ever see a situation where you might? |
| 19:58.10 | brutser | if i do custom install and load all possible installer components, then execute a shell, if i still need a command not available, what is the workaround for that? |
| 19:58.12 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 19:58.22 | *** join/#debian annadane (~annadane@mtrlpq5302w-lp140-02-70-49-127-177.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 19:58.23 | *** join/#debian cdown (~cdown@net-31-27-4-133.cust.vodafonedsl.it) |
| 19:58.36 | EmleyMoor | brutser, Install the package it's part of |
| 19:58.46 | EmleyMoor | It's not a work*around* |
| 19:59.00 | *** join/#debian Rhuarc (~Rhuarc-@enigmavoid.com) |
| 19:59.34 | *** join/#debian Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 20:00.11 | *** join/#debian Apeiron` (~Apeiron@enigmavoid.com) |
| 20:00.14 | ZaZaGX | i'm not sure |
| 20:01.21 | EmleyMoor | ZaZaGX: Put it this way, it's not compulsory |
| 20:01.56 | diogenes_ | ZaZaGX, if some person get physical access to your PC then, by accessing passwordless grub, he can change your password and literally do whatever he wants. |
| 20:02.47 | Bushmills | though a password won't prevent him to take the whole PC or harddisk |
| 20:03.29 | EmleyMoor | I'd sooner encrypt the bulk of the disk |
| 20:03.49 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-70-247.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 20:04.00 | ZaZaGX | diogenes_, you mean change root password? |
| 20:04.03 | *** join/#debian meLon (~meLon@unaffiliated/earthmelon) |
| 20:04.17 | *** join/#debian martigan (~martigan@162.251.232.107) |
| 20:04.51 | diogenes_ | yes, create new users, inject any sort of spyware aka cryptominers, etc. |
| 20:04.55 | *** join/#debian ml| (~ml|@unaffiliated/ml/x-3958674) |
| 20:05.37 | ZaZaGX | hmm, i didn't encrypt my whole hard drive. it takes too long |
| 20:06.14 | Bushmills | yes, security is only on option if it speeds things up or reduces power consumption or costs |
| 20:06.46 | *** join/#debian d3c0 (~d3c0@179.6.215.225) |
| 20:06.46 | EmleyMoor | I only bother on a laptop |
| 20:06.56 | *** part/#debian oo_miguel (~miguel@89-72-186-97.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 20:07.02 | telmich | diogenes_: actually no; it's more about solving interesting problems together, in the areas of Open Source / IPv6 ; more details are on https://hack.digitalglarus.ch/hacking-date-in-digital-glarus.html |
| 20:07.21 | ZaZaGX | i have a laptop |
| 20:08.58 | martigan | lols at Bushmills |
| 20:09.12 | Bushmills | we're living in a - in parts - free world where everybody is free not to care about securing his data. |
| 20:09.25 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@120.244.117.35) |
| 20:10.00 | martigan | I don't have anything to hide, why should I care? |
| 20:10.50 | Bushmills | that's also what my uncle says. I asked him whether it's fine with him if I install cameras in his house, and stream it to internet. funnily he declined. |
| 20:11.06 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@111.196.101.107) |
| 20:11.16 | Bushmills | i don't quote understand why he would - he has nothing to hide, he says |
| 20:11.21 | ZaZaGX | i don't like the police |
| 20:11.46 | martigan | I like the "Ok cool, text me all your passwords, I would love to spend the afternoon going through all your stuff" response. |
| 20:11.48 | diogenes_ | Bushmills, you asked uncle or aunt? :) |
| 20:12.18 | *** join/#debian hypn0 (~h@unaffiliated/hypn0) |
| 20:12.43 | martigan | ZaZaGX IS the police |
| 20:12.45 | Bushmills | uncle, actually. my aunt isn't tech enough to understand those terms like "stream" (or "camera" :) ) |
| 20:13.03 | martigan | stream is that thing you catch fish out of. |
| 20:13.23 | diogenes_ | lol |
| 20:13.54 | ZaZaGX | i am not a cop |
| 20:13.57 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-088-075-240-228.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 20:14.45 | *** join/#debian michaelni_ (~michael@213-47-41-20.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 20:15.03 | *** join/#debian null1337 (~WhoAmI@c-73-203-123-117.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:16.14 | Bushmills | prove it |
| 20:16.25 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@120.244.117.69) |
| 20:16.26 | *** join/#debian zalt (~lambda443@unaffiliated/lambda443) |
| 20:16.57 | martigan | Oh, in that case, lets do a bunch of sketchy stuff on the internets together now that we have verified you. Where do you want to start? |
| 20:17.27 | ZaZaGX | crap, do i need to reformat and install debian again to enable the full disk encryption during installation? |
| 20:20.03 | *** join/#debian toxync12 (~toxync12@120.244.119.170) |
| 20:21.25 | humpled | do you need to encrypt everything? |
| 20:21.40 | *** join/#debian gormenghast (~gormengha@2a01:e0a:1fb:3af0:99bd:d5f5:86a6:364a) |
| 20:22.19 | ZaZaGX | no, but isn't it better just to encrypt everything? |
| 20:22.33 | dvs | even /boot? |
| 20:22.58 | *** join/#debian progart (~kamee@188.115.237.168) |
| 20:23.01 | ZaZaGX | i'm not even sure whats in /boot |
| 20:23.06 | EmleyMoor | ZaZaGX, not /boot but everything else is simplest to do at install time |
| 20:24.23 | *** join/#debian nathanhi (~nathanhi@unaffiliated/nathanhi) |
| 20:24.31 | ZaZaGX | well, i'm trying to associate myself with hackers and i'm going to defcon next year hopefully. i don't want to get hacked |
| 20:24.53 | brutser | i guess /boot holds the files that are needed for the bootloader |
| 20:24.54 | martigan | told you hes a cop |
| 20:25.01 | brutser | and / holds the files for the os itself |
| 20:25.25 | ZaZaGX | lol i'm not a fed! |
| 20:25.37 | Primer | Can't UFI maintain a crypto chain with Debian now? |
| 20:26.04 | Primer | as long as you stick to distro kernel modules |
| 20:26.24 | Primer | UEFI, that is |
| 20:26.35 | *** part/#debian alkisg (~alkisg@ubuntu/member/alkisg) |
| 20:26.45 | *** join/#debian mmfood (~mmfood@46.246.20.183) |
| 20:26.57 | ZaZaGX | I'm even trying to brush up my Mandarin chinese. theres a ton of Chinese people in my area. i need to get to the dark army |
| 20:27.04 | brutser | EmleyMoor: so for example i want to use losetup which is not there by default, how would i install the package in the busybox shell? |
| 20:27.56 | *** join/#debian greatgatsby (~greatgats@167.88.133.120) |
| 20:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1506] by debhelper |
| 20:29.20 | *** join/#debian mirqui (~mirqui@179.189.158.15) |
| 20:29.31 | ZaZaGX | so its best to format and install debian and enable full disk encryption during install time? and password protect grub? |
| 20:29.31 | EmleyMoor | Not familiar with busybox... |
| 20:29.51 | *** join/#debian Guest5689 (~crowley95@68.170.93.199) |
| 20:30.23 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 20:30.29 | *** part/#debian mirqui (~mirqui@179.189.158.15) |
| 20:30.45 | *** join/#debian crowley9- (~crowley95@68.170.93.199) |
| 20:31.05 | *** join/#debian CaCO3 (~CaCO3@pool-108-52-208-147.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:31.18 | mmfood | /hi, decided to try debian on a server and downloaded the debian live standard iso. I have set up the partitions, but now I realize I'm not sure what to do. Is there a install script/program to run or should I install some package group? |
| 20:31.52 | brutser | EmleyMoor: well busybox is the shell you get when doing custom install debian |
| 20:31.53 | *** join/#debian BrambleG (~BrambleG_@88-104-241-229.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:32.04 | Bushmills | for an interactive console installer shell? aptitude |
| 20:32.06 | brutser | so that is why i asked, i know how to install a package in deb obviously |
| 20:32.13 | *** join/#debian Lord_of_Life_ (~Lord@unaffiliated/lord-of-life/x-0885362) |
| 20:32.29 | Bushmills | oh, you still *need* to install |
| 20:32.37 | *** join/#debian crowley9- (~crowley95@68.170.93.199) |
| 20:32.52 | brutser | Bushmills: sorry, you replying to my issue? |
| 20:33.03 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 20:33.22 | diogenes_ | mmfood, it has graphical debian installer. |
| 20:33.24 | Bushmills | that's a hard one. were i to say "no" now,. that's technically a reply to you |
| 20:34.08 | brutser | i start a custom install debian and load all components before executing a shell < here i still miss a few commands i need, such as losetup, so i wonder how i can still get those commands available |
| 20:34.27 | *** join/#debian plasmik (~gentlelis@109.252.39.26) |
| 20:34.30 | ZaZaGX | ok, i take that as a yes. |
| 20:37.35 | *** join/#debian governor (~governor@41.190.2.156) |
| 20:39.04 | brutser | anyone that can help with the expert install debian, must be someone here? ;) |
| 20:39.14 | *** join/#debian ml| (~ml|@unaffiliated/ml/x-3958674) |
| 20:40.03 | *** join/#debian The`Unforgiven (~BHT@94.155.42.130) |
| 20:40.39 | ZaZaGX | for who? |
| 20:41.15 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 20:41.45 | ZaZaGX | private internet access works with the feds |
| 20:42.04 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@47-217-151-184.msk1cmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 20:42.29 | *** join/#debian BrambleG (~BrambleG_@88-104-241-229.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:42.34 | mmfood | diogenes_: right, that might be easier. Is there a way to do it from the command line though? Physically that would be easier to do from my other machine through ssh, since I am currently logged in |
| 20:43.51 | ZaZaGX | i recommend a vpn outside United States. so there are no jurisdiction |
| 20:44.11 | diogenes_ | mmfood, i always install from graphical installer so no experience with cli/arch way of installing :) |
| 20:44.14 | *** join/#debian allorder (~allorder@unaffiliated/allorder) |
| 20:45.24 | *** join/#debian icarusfactor (~factor@47-217-151-184.msk1cmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 20:48.31 | humpled | i'm surprised if losetup is not in the installer |
| 20:48.44 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 20:49.25 | *** join/#debian troulouliou_div2 (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-div2/x-0271439) |
| 20:49.43 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@47-217-151-184.msk1cmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 20:51.29 | *** join/#debian governor (~governor@41.190.2.156) |
| 20:51.48 | mmfood | diogenes_: ok, well thanks for reminding me about the graphical installer anyways! :) |
| 20:52.17 | diogenes_ | np |
| 20:52.39 | *** join/#debian saptaks (~saptaks@49.205.219.196) |
| 20:53.39 | Burek | is tool bassist using debian? https://i.imgur.com/ekxu920.png |
| 20:54.03 | *** join/#debian ml| (~ml|@unaffiliated/ml/x-3958674) |
| 20:54.16 | *** join/#debian simpledat (~unknown@unaffiliated/simpledat) |
| 20:56.16 | *** join/#debian johnjay (~pi@38.120.10.99) |
| 20:56.28 | johnjay | would I be correct in assuming emacs-module.h is not included in any debian package? |
| 20:56.32 | johnjay | i can't find it with apt-file find |
| 20:57.56 | brutser | humpled: /bin/sh: losetup: not found |
| 20:58.13 | *** join/#debian datdus (~datdus@94-168-35-66.static.v4.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 20:58.13 | annadane | PIA does not work with the feds, please don't spread even more VPN misinformation |
| 20:58.30 | annadane | US based products are a red flag though, yes |
| 20:59.17 | ZaZaGX | how do you know annadane? |
| 20:59.28 | annadane | i don't, but i also don't make confident assertions that they do |
| 20:59.33 | *** join/#debian astro1 (~quassel@84-107-117-99.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 21:00.26 | annadane | the US does have a problem with NSLs and the fact corporations can be compelled to hand over information, all that is perfectly correct |
| 21:00.56 | ZaZaGX | i don't think major ISP works with the feds. but they can. it happen with foxacid |
| 21:01.32 | annadane | many ISPs are also assholes, so i mean |
| 21:01.33 | brutser | humpled: i loaded all components possible |
| 21:01.45 | annadane | sorry for all the off-topic, please continue with actual support discussion |
| 21:03.20 | martigan | FWIW: https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-providers-no-logging-claims-tested-in-fbi-case-160312/ |
| 21:03.34 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@111.196.101.107) |
| 21:05.40 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 21:06.56 | *** join/#debian cnsunyour (~cnsunyour@111.196.101.107) |
| 21:09.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1500] by debhelper |
| 21:09.12 | *** join/#debian jokx (~jokx@v3.welibre.org) |
| 21:09.48 | ZaZaGX | hmmm not sure if that is bias. it does say TorrentFreak is sponsored by them |
| 21:10.41 | jokx | hello |
| 21:12.31 | *** join/#debian gremlin42 (~eric@71.219.110.67) |
| 21:12.46 | *** join/#debian mandeep (~mandeep@unaffiliated/mandeepb) |
| 21:13.21 | *** join/#debian prism (be732015@190.115.32.21) |
| 21:15.08 | martigan | Hi! |
| 21:16.09 | *** join/#debian shabius_ (~shabius@83.97.18.162) |
| 21:17.01 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 21:17.02 | brutser | nobody knows if it's possible to load any additional components during expert install?? |
| 21:18.13 | Bushmills | I reckon most more experienced users have been running their systems for many years and don't tend to run installers very often |
| 21:19.20 | jmcnaught | brutser: what are you trying to do in the installer that cannot be done after the first boot of the system? |
| 21:19.41 | martigan | Bushmills, is there any advantage to not running an installer? |
| 21:20.48 | Bushmills | well, yes. advantage is that one doesn't need to install |
| 21:21.15 | brutser | jmcnaught: that's a bit complicated to explain, i can give a try though, but i wanted to use losetup, but it's not available unfortunately |
| 21:21.48 | *** join/#debian governor (~governor@41.190.2.156) |
| 21:21.57 | Bushmills | martigan: would you run an installer while there's a nicely working system installed on your computer? |
| 21:23.50 | martigan | lol, ok ok. Point made. I thought you meant to install the system. I have always used the graphical installer. I've been on debian sense jessie and still don't know anything. lol |
| 21:24.17 | karlpinc | brutser: There's a console on a vt (vt3?) in the installer that lets you do anything. |
| 21:24.57 | Bushmills | martigan: no, i meant "many experienced users can't really remember how the installer looks like" :D |
| 21:25.36 | Bushmills | and "what? it has graphical mode too now" |
| 21:28.20 | Bushmills | and maybe "what'S the advantage over boot/root floppy set" |
| 21:29.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1493] by debhelper |
| 21:30.36 | martigan | googles how to install buster w/out graphical installer so no one can make fun of him in IRC again |
| 21:30.42 | martigan | I mean, its not a terminal, and it says "Graphical installer" so I'm guessing thats what it's called. lol |
| 21:30.48 | *** join/#debian crowley95 (~crowley95@68.170.93.199) |
| 21:31.27 | humpled | seems pretty similar from what i've seen, just a bit shinier |
| 21:31.33 | *** join/#debian elkalamar (elkalamar@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/elkalamar) |
| 21:31.43 | humpled | and the mouse works |
| 21:32.24 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 21:32.39 | martigan | If its stupid and it works its not stupid. Using the installer from a usb has never steered me wrong yet. |
| 21:36.21 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@unaffiliated/format-c/x-8927423) |
| 21:39.45 | *** join/#debian Gay_mencari_Paca (~Cow_suka_@197.0.228.72) |
| 21:40.47 | *** join/#debian woenx (~quassel@static-77-85-86-188.ipcom.comunitel.net) |
| 21:41.56 | *** join/#debian xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 21:43.00 | *** join/#debian dvs (~hibbard@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:43.51 | *** join/#debian OS-54258 (~OS-54258@ip98-164-217-225.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 21:46.39 | *** join/#debian Psi-Jack (psi-jack@unaffiliated/psi-jack) |
| 21:47.19 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 21:48.39 | Psi-Jack | I'm having an issue trying to install Debian 9 onto a Dell R900, mostly with the NIC not ever connecting, and just checked dmesg from the console and seeing it finding the QLogic bnx2 GigE for all 4 ports, but then after the renames from ethX to enoX, firmware: failed to load bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw (-2) |
| 21:49.03 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 21:49.23 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@47-217-151-184.msk1cmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 21:49.58 | *** join/#debian leandrovianna (~leandrovi@179.221.111.139) |
| 21:50.02 | karlpinc | Psi-Jack: Are you using the unoffical installer with non-free firmware included? |
| 21:50.12 | karlpinc | !firmware images |
| 21:50.12 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 21:50.29 | Psi-Jack | I am not. |
| 21:50.32 | karlpinc | Psi-Jack: (And why install 9 and not 10 (buster)?) |
| 21:50.49 | Psi-Jack | karlpinc: Because I'll be joining it to my proxmox ve cluster which is still also on Debian 9 at the moment. |
| 21:51.23 | karlpinc | Psi-Jack: It's not loading firmware. You can either follow the installation instructions regarding non-free firmware or use the unoffical installer. |
| 21:51.41 | Psi-Jack | Where's the unofficial for 9.x? |
| 21:52.06 | *** join/#debian wingede (~wingede@unaffiliated/wingede) |
| 21:52.39 | Psi-Jack | Ahh, archive. :) |
| 21:52.50 | *** join/#debian ml| (~ml|@unaffiliated/ml/x-3958674) |
| 21:54.02 | *** join/#debian p0lyph3m (~p0lyph3m@2a02:810d:640:776c:76d7:55f6:f85b:c889) |
| 21:54.02 | LtL | Psi-Jack: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/9.9.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/firmware-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
| 21:54.49 | *** join/#debian magic_ninja (~sparkie1@unaffiliated/magic-ninja/x-4708782) |
| 21:54.55 | Psi-Jack | And I'll try that. With the netinst one I usually use. :) |
| 21:54.56 | *** join/#debian Coba|t` (~Cobat@197.0.228.72) |
| 21:55.15 | Bushmills | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 21:55.16 | karlpinc | netinstall is usually best |
| 21:55.16 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie: 3.16+63+deb8u2; jessie-security: 3.16+63+deb8u6; stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u7; stretch-proposed-updates: 4.9+80+deb9u8; stretch-backports: 4.19+105~bpo9+1; bullseye: 4.19+105; buster: 4.19+105; sid: 5.2+106 |
| 21:55.35 | Bushmills | 5.2 seems to just have made it into bullseye |
| 21:55.39 | Psi-Jack | Yeah, I was using the official 9.4.0 netinst, because I had that handy. |
| 21:59.52 | LtL | I can't seem to find the netinstall for 9.9 |
| 22:00.17 | LtL | unoffical w/firmware anyway |
| 22:03.43 | nvz | LtL: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/9.9.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/archive/9.9.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-9.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 22:03.44 | dvs | LtL, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/9.9.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 22:04.38 | LtL | thanks |
| 22:05.23 | *** join/#debian woenx_ (~quassel@247.91.79.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 22:07.26 | *** join/#debian Gigglebyte (~Gigglebyt@047-025-213-102.res.spectrum.com) |
| 22:07.54 | *** join/#debian sunzero (~sunzero@87.227.210.191) |
| 22:11.53 | *** join/#debian CombatVet (~c4@gateway/tor-sasl/combatvet) |
| 22:12.19 | *** join/#debian BCMM (~BCMM@unaffiliated/bcmm) |
| 22:13.35 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 22:13.57 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 22:14.11 | *** join/#debian combatvet_ (~c4@gateway/tor-sasl/combatvet) |
| 22:14.47 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 22:18.01 | *** join/#debian crash_ (~pi@h-58-159.A357.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 22:19.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1487] by debhelper |
| 22:20.15 | *** join/#debian hwm4rgs (~hwm4rgs@unaffiliated/hwm4rgs) |
| 22:21.54 | *** join/#debian crestfallen (~crestfall@2603:3024:1019:8000::d56c) |
| 22:22.49 | *** join/#debian LaScoumoune_ (~LaScoumou@185.128.25.220) |
| 22:23.11 | crestfallen | hi I'm trying to get a paste.debian.net cli command to work in .bashrc. this command gives me html code instead of the little url link http://paste.debian.net/1097341/ |
| 22:23.31 | *** join/#debian bertbob (~bertbob@67-2-70-247.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 22:24.09 | crestfallen | please correct that alias line |
| 22:25.05 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 22:27.54 | *** join/#debian Namarrgon (~glei@archlinux/op/namarrgon) |
| 22:29.43 | *** join/#debian shellclear (~shellclea@223.82-130-155.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 22:29.51 | *** join/#debian Thedarkb-X40 (~beno@51-171-48-137-dynamic.agg3.kny.prp-wtd.eircom.net) |
| 22:30.23 | humpled | isn't that a function? |
| 22:31.17 | *** part/#debian fnkr56 (~fnkr@h2.fnkr.net) |
| 22:31.27 | crestfallen | pb() I guess is an alias |
| 22:31.34 | crestfallen | function is fine with me |
| 22:31.57 | crestfallen | shortcut I'm not a techy |
| 22:32.40 | crestfallen | also humpled I did $ source .bashrc |
| 22:33.38 | humpled | oh it works :þ |
| 22:33.52 | nvz | crestfallen: you do realize there are sites made for this.. and what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 22:33.57 | nvz | cause there are tools for this already too |
| 22:34.11 | nvz | ,i pastebinit |
| 22:34.13 | judd | Package pastebinit (misc, optional) in buster/amd64: command-line pastebin client. Version: 1.5-2; Size: 42.6k; Installed: 314k; Homepage: http://launchpad.net/pastebinit/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/pastebinit |
| 22:34.28 | humpled | i always do function myfunction() { commands; } |
| 22:34.42 | nvz | echo -e "foo\n\bar\n\baz\n\quux" | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:34.56 | *** join/#debian kw21 (~kw21@217-120-232-48.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:35.29 | nvz | it would seem with < $1 you're trying to write a file to the site |
| 22:36.59 | *** join/#debian mwmluvsass (~Mibbit@197.0.228.72) |
| 22:37.25 | *** join/#debian soul-d (~name@ip4da1f3f2.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 22:38.53 | nvz | crestfallen: furthermore look at what you're doing http://paste.debian.net/?code=foo%0Abar%0Abaz%0Aquux |
| 22:39.10 | nvz | you're not even specifying the code textarea, but even if you WERE.. |
| 22:39.59 | nvz | that script on that site requires more than one field be filled out.. it like most, requires them all |
| 22:40.29 | nvz | so what you really need to ask yourself is, are you really trying to reinvent the wheel like this? |
| 22:42.23 | crestfallen | nvz, humpled thanks one sec |
| 22:42.30 | *** join/#debian Plan_IX (~P9@072-178-125-181.res.spectrum.com) |
| 22:42.45 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin1 (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 22:43.09 | *** join/#debian diabel (~diabel@89-74-158-102.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 22:43.11 | crestfallen | I used to have pb. some suffix it worked nicely for years. It discontinued I guess. then sprunge I couldn't get to work. |
| 22:43.24 | crestfallen | pb was a pastebin site |
| 22:43.36 | *** join/#debian AndrewMC (~amc@unaffiliated/andrewmc) |
| 22:43.48 | Psi-Jack | That worked out nicely. Got Debian 9.9.0 installed on this R900 now. ;) |
| 22:44.06 | crestfallen | I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel I've never seen one if you catch my drift :) |
| 22:44.52 | dvs | Psi-Jack, yay! |
| 22:44.55 | nvz | crestfallen: this is the minimum you need in a POST for that to work http://paste.debian.net/?code=foo%0Abar%0Abaz%0Aquux&lang=text&expire=86400 |
| 22:45.09 | nvz | crestfallen: you need at least 3 line breaks, a lang, and an expire |
| 22:45.44 | nvz | crestfallen: I recommend piping to nc termbin.com 9999 because netcat is usually installed on most systems and termbin.com was MADE for this |
| 22:45.51 | *** join/#debian Psil0Cybin (Psil0Cybin@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/psil0cybin) |
| 22:46.02 | nvz | however if you want more control and features, just install pastebinit |
| 22:46.44 | *** join/#debian Adiemus|Away (~Adiemus@197.0.228.72) |
| 22:46.46 | crestfallen | nvz sorry I understand nearly none of your suggestions. what about a pb() line similar to mine that works nicely? How would you write it? |
| 22:47.03 | annadane | !win Psi-Jack |
| 22:47.04 | dpkg | Congratulations, Psi-Jack! You have won a one way ticket to Fire Island! |
| 22:47.14 | Psi-Jack | Ooooh,,, Fire Island! |
| 22:47.19 | Psi-Jack | But... But.... |
| 22:47.42 | dvs | too late! |
| 22:48.04 | nvz | crestfallen: type this into your terminal right now.. |
| 22:48.05 | crestfallen | very sorry |
| 22:48.05 | crestfallen | any decent pastebin site |
| 22:48.12 | nvz | crestfallen: lspci | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:48.24 | *** join/#debian crestfallen (~crestfall@2603:3024:1019:8000::d56c) |
| 22:48.32 | nvz | crestfallen: and be amazed |
| 22:48.36 | dvs | nvz, didnt see it |
| 22:48.45 | nvz | crestfallen: lspci | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:48.58 | crestfallen | nvz please repost I was online for a heartbeat (in a cafe) |
| 22:49.04 | crestfallen | offline* |
| 22:49.44 | *** join/#debian thelostcircuit_ (~thelostci@2601:18c:4301:1a05:9260:748:a788:5691) |
| 22:49.52 | *** join/#debian zeden (~user@unaffiliated/zeden) |
| 22:50.06 | nvz | I didn't know curl had a forms feature.. I never messed with curl much.. I may play with that some at some point.. but thats really not necessary |
| 22:50.33 | nvz | contemplates using that to create a bash script like pastebinit |
| 22:50.44 | *** join/#debian thePiGrepper (~nagato@190.236.81.28) |
| 22:50.56 | crestfallen | nvz sorry so if I do pb() lspci | nc termbin.com 9999 in .bashrc that would paste from the cli? |
| 22:51.13 | nvz | forget f'n pb() , forget .bashrc |
| 22:51.20 | *** join/#debian Aussie_matt (~quassel@27-33-187-117.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 22:51.29 | nvz | your system ALREADY DOES THIS |
| 22:51.46 | nvz | crestfallen: I am showing you how to get output of a command onto the web |
| 22:51.59 | nvz | just type that command and press enter, and be amazed |
| 22:52.17 | nvz | anything you want to paste just pipe it to nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:52.31 | nvz | cat .bashrc | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:52.43 | nvz | dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:52.46 | martigan | "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" Paste everything between the quotes crestfallen |
| 22:52.54 | nvz | lspci -nn | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:52.58 | nvz | whatever |
| 22:53.06 | annadane | nc termbin.com 9999 | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:53.16 | nvz | annadane: eeekk! |
| 22:54.01 | nvz | annadane: thats more a netouroboros than a netcat |
| 22:54.49 | crestfallen | pipe it? you need to know, I don't understand. please tell me how to make an alias such as this ' $ pb textfile.txt ' and get the little link to copy and share with a chatroom |
| 22:55.36 | nvz | crestfallen: if you don't type any of the goddamn commands I just told you and SEE how it works, so help me bob, I'm gonna slap you silly though this IRC :D |
| 22:55.47 | nvz | crestfallen: first try it out, then I'll tell you how to simplify it |
| 22:56.04 | nvz | crestfallen: cat .bashrc | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:56.11 | nvz | type that, press enter |
| 22:56.14 | nvz | see what happens |
| 22:56.22 | *** join/#debian pepillo (~bord@222.114.179.57) |
| 22:56.41 | martigan | hides as daddy nvz smashes dinner plate against the wall becusae the food was cold |
| 22:57.04 | nvz | heh |
| 22:57.29 | nvz | crestfallen: a pipe | takes the output of one command and gives it to the input of the other |
| 22:57.37 | nvz | crestfallen: first you need to try this and see how it works so you understand |
| 22:57.54 | nvz | then if you insist we can do your dumb lil alias .bashrc thing |
| 22:58.00 | crestfallen | I tried it before. it gives me a long, undesired result. |
| 22:58.23 | nvz | omg.. I'm going to make a video for you |
| 22:58.31 | dvs | O_O |
| 23:00.30 | *** join/#debian amospalla (~amospalla@unaffiliated/amospalla) |
| 23:01.57 | *** part/#debian pepillo (~bord@222.114.179.57) |
| 23:02.34 | crucify_me | << nvz in these cases I change my nick crestfallen |
| 23:03.12 | nvz | crucify_me: http://rant.farted.net/pb.mp4 |
| 23:04.27 | martigan | https://imgur.com/a/b7AmPMG |
| 23:04.57 | *** join/#debian solar (~solar@197.0.228.72) |
| 23:05.08 | *** join/#debian rizzo (~RizzoTheR@dyndsl-091-248-214-205.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 23:05.33 | nvz | martigan: :D |
| 23:05.54 | *** join/#debian parab (~parab@212.253.179.37) |
| 23:05.58 | nvz | I'm thinkin we're gonna have to stick our arms up his arse and work him like a puppet before he gets it :P |
| 23:05.59 | annadane | instructions unclear, became owner of russian slave ship |
| 23:07.12 | *** join/#debian argus (~tls@189.27.122.162.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 23:07.48 | LtL | annadane: not helpful. |
| 23:08.02 | teclo- | nvz: nice... what GUI is that if my ask ? It looks cool |
| 23:08.13 | nvz | teclo-: its MATE |
| 23:08.13 | annadane | ignored |
| 23:08.47 | crucify_me | nvz I watched the video. you are a taskmaster. thanks kindly and thanks annadane. any nvz by the way ... |
| 23:08.58 | crucify_me | << nvz |
| 23:09.05 | annadane | i didn't do anything, lol. |
| 23:09.51 | crucify_me | thanks anyway it was entertaining. linux is way to complicated. you may be amused to hear that I'm learning haskell which is TOUGH |
| 23:10.00 | crucify_me | too* |
| 23:10.33 | crucify_me | I'm old -- this stuff is like a huge distraction. |
| 23:10.43 | martigan | side note: nvz, been monitoring with the script you gave me and I don't think that bug is actually doing anything. I don't see an performance issues no matter how I try to induce them. Thanks again man. |
| 23:11.48 | martigan | Crucify_me: just stick with it. Don't give up. Don't let daddy nvz's temper issues get you down. |
| 23:12.04 | *** join/#debian vOYtEC_ (~vOYtEC@185.175.56.209) |
| 23:12.17 | dvs | cowers in front of nvz |
| 23:12.34 | crucify_me | martigan, no I caught nvz on a good day :) |
| 23:12.39 | nvz | had a bit of a greycat moment |
| 23:12.48 | dvs | ha! |
| 23:13.37 | annadane | you're trying to do WHAT |
| 23:13.57 | annadane | why can't you just pipe the output like a NORMAL person instead of trying to do god-knows-what-i-don't-even-know |
| 23:14.09 | nvz | heh |
| 23:14.18 | annadane | *plonk* |
| 23:14.32 | nvz | the curl thing seems like it'd work.. but it by no means is easier than the alternatives |
| 23:20.14 | *** join/#debian rustin (~bord@222.114.179.57) |
| 23:21.42 | crucify_me | nvz annadane some of the pastebin sites have syntax highlighting etc for languages . like I said the pb curl command worked fine for years and I can't find an alternative |
| 23:22.25 | nvz | crucify_me: apt install pastebinit |
| 23:22.50 | nvz | the syntax highlighting wont work because you have to SPECIFY the language to highlight |
| 23:23.14 | nvz | if you want a bash script that auto detects syntax highlighting its gonna be a lot more than what you got there |
| 23:23.37 | crucify_me | thanks kindly nvz I'll watch the video again at home, I couldn't see it well on the laptop. |
| 23:23.49 | crucify_me | that seems fine |
| 23:24.18 | *** join/#debian terr_ (~terr@66.18.218.43) |
| 23:24.18 | *** join/#debian _Cute_Kitty_ (~cutekitty@reshall-wifi-806.cuw.edu) |
| 23:26.37 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@47-217-151-184.msk1cmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net) |
| 23:27.56 | _Cute_Kitty_ | hi. i posted yesterday about this, but i'm still having occasional issues, that I can't decide if it's an lcd problem, gpu problem, or operating system problem. i'm randomly getting the screen turning a completely different color, it looks like fuzzy and the colors are all different. it happens regardless of what i'm doing. here is the photo. https://imgur.com/a/0jjI5cB |
| 23:28.17 | _Cute_Kitty_ | now, i'm wondering if there's any intel drivers i might not have installed, that could be causing the display to glitch out. |
| 23:28.28 | _Cute_Kitty_ | the problem never occured when i had windows on the machine. |
| 23:29.20 | dvs | _Cute_Kitty_, there is firmware packages for intel graphics |
| 23:30.08 | _Cute_Kitty_ | dvs: how do i get them |
| 23:31.02 | _Cute_Kitty_ | can you see what's going on with the picture? have you see anything like that before? |
| 23:33.04 | _Cute_Kitty_ | dvs: i already have intel-microcode btw |
| 23:33.11 | _Cute_Kitty_ | but if there's anything else required i dont' have that :)\ |
| 23:33.18 | dvs | _Cute_Kitty_, ah, there's only firmware-amd-graphics |
| 23:33.44 | dvs | _Cute_Kitty_, I'm not sure what's wrong with the picture you posted. |
| 23:34.00 | _Cute_Kitty_ | then what is intel-microcode for? |
| 23:34.31 | nvz | its for CPUs |
| 23:34.53 | dvs | _Cute_Kitty_, intel-microcode is for "changing" the code contained inside the CPU to fix bugs such as heartbleed. |
| 23:34.57 | nvz | _Cute_Kitty_: your issue sounds like a bad monitor/cable |
| 23:35.40 | _Cute_Kitty_ | oh so it's not related to graphics |
| 23:35.47 | nvz | almost certainly not |
| 23:36.09 | _Cute_Kitty_ | also, i don't think i have a cable that's bad. the reason being, as soon as I log out or reboot, shutdown, anything, the artifacting goes away |
| 23:36.14 | nvz | _Cute_Kitty_: what kind of connection is it? VGA, DVI, HDMI, DP? |
| 23:36.16 | _Cute_Kitty_ | so that's why i'm curious about my install. |
| 23:36.21 | _Cute_Kitty_ | nvz: it's a laptop! |
| 23:36.38 | _Cute_Kitty_ | in other words the issue is not constant |
| 23:36.57 | _Cute_Kitty_ | or, it is, but not like i mentioned above |
| 23:38.11 | nvz | _Cute_Kitty_: when it happens, pinch around the top and side edges of the screen bezel and press firmly along the area just above the keyboard.. see if anything changes |
| 23:38.26 | *** join/#debian pav (~vjetar@14-104.dsl.iskon.hr) |
| 23:38.35 | _Cute_Kitty_ | alright i will definitely do that. thanks for the suggestion |
| 23:38.57 | nvz | _Cute_Kitty_: I'd be better if pressing on the bottom half of the machine just above the keyboard caused a change |
| 23:39.06 | nvz | if pinching the screen itself does.. thats not good |
| 23:39.13 | _Cute_Kitty_ | that means the screen is bad |
| 23:39.17 | _Cute_Kitty_ | versus a cable |
| 23:39.28 | _Cute_Kitty_ | ? |
| 23:39.46 | *** join/#debian argusbr (~tls@unaffiliated/argusbr) |
| 23:39.52 | nvz | cables in both cases.. but the ones in the screen arent meant to be unplugged, they're soldered on |
| 23:39.53 | *** join/#debian rl12 (~rl12@5.181.233.118) |
| 23:40.16 | _Cute_Kitty_ | ok |
| 23:40.17 | _Cute_Kitty_ | gotcha |
| 23:40.24 | nvz | and since they're thin plastic flex cables, you can't really user service them.. they will melt trying to solder them |
| 23:40.34 | _Cute_Kitty_ | i'm typing on the laptop now and it hasn't done anything yet :) |
| 23:40.48 | nvz | the connector on the motherboard however which is usually right above the keyboard.. that can be unplugged and may be loose |
| 23:40.59 | _Cute_Kitty_ | i see |
| 23:41.12 | nvz | some machines they put two screws in it to hold it down, some dont |
| 23:42.10 | *** join/#debian Witeds (~john@72.13.212.19) |
| 23:42.15 | *** part/#debian Witeds (~john@72.13.212.19) |
| 23:42.21 | *** join/#debian Whiskey- (~Whiskey@185.57.105.4) |
| 23:43.50 | *** join/#debian ce9a (~dellrt@122.105.85.169) |
| 23:44.02 | nvz | its far more likely a connection issue than a software or graphics hardware issue though |
| 23:44.52 | nvz | if colors across the whole display are shifting hue or something like that |
| 23:45.45 | rwp | _Cute_Kitty_, Looking at the photo it looks like bad font anti-aliasing or another bad font rastorization of some sort. |
| 23:45.45 | nvz | and its more likely the main connector to the mobo as the actual cables going to the sides of the display wouldnt cause color distortion, they'd cause hori/vert line kinda deals |
| 23:46.05 | nvz | the photo looks fine to me.. just an ugly color scheme :P |
| 23:46.17 | nvz | but short of a compositor in play, I dont see it being software |
| 23:46.34 | rwp | I would say it looks fine to me too. But I am sure the complaint is about the letters |
| 23:46.35 | *** join/#debian ZaZaGX (pi@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/zazagx) |
| 23:47.23 | nvz | I see not enough reds.. which suggests the signal line doing the red colors is loose |
| 23:47.31 | nvz | too much greens and blues |
| 23:47.50 | nvz | seen that on old vga connectors plenty |
| 23:48.05 | rwp | Compare the letters to the samples here https://superuser.com/questions/8824/bad-font-anti-aliasing-in-ubuntu |
| 23:49.42 | *** join/#debian ukine (~ukine__@70.127.71.244) |
| 23:52.44 | *** join/#debian polman (~ananevtem@ip-144-061-064-178.pools.atnet.ru) |
| 23:54.06 | _Cute_Kitty_ | rwp: that is the characters |
| 23:54.38 | _Cute_Kitty_ | but the problem isn't just the character font, it's the actual color. the whole thing looks like it's 3d outwards towards me, |
| 23:54.43 | _Cute_Kitty_ | in a fuzzy rainbow weird color scheme. |
| 23:55.03 | _Cute_Kitty_ | does that make sense? look at the firefox icon in the picture and compare it to an actual one, that's the color that's changing |
| 23:59.36 | *** join/#debian akko (~gentoo@gateway/tor-sasl/akko) |
