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| 01:37.37 | BoyDoy | good day how to make listen 127.0.0.1:8080? |
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| 01:38.35 | BoyDoy | im using debian 10 |
| 01:39.26 | nvz | may what listen? |
| 01:39.40 | nvz | make what listen? even |
| 01:39.59 | nvz | 8080 is commonly used for a socks proxy |
| 01:41.26 | nvz | take your time, I'm only in a parking lot on wifi.. I'll probably be here all night </sarcasm> |
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| 01:41.34 | Gerowen | Do you just want to open the port on your firewall? The simple way, ufw allow 8080, but if you need help with reconfiguring a specific service, you're gonna have to provide more information so people can help you. |
| 01:41.48 | nvz | opening a port doesn't make it listen |
| 01:42.57 | Gerowen | I'm aware, I just wasn't sure what he was talking about, since he didn't specify "what" he wanted to listen on 8080. |
| 01:43.25 | nvz | yeah, well I think we've made that point.. and we're now just moving on to ignoring them :P |
| 01:43.27 | BoyDoy | is a site |
| 01:43.59 | nvz | BoyDoy: are you paying by the word? Cause if not maybe you could use more of them so we know what it is you are trying to do |
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| 01:44.35 | nvz | swift110: We Debian users are so hip we can hardly see past our pelvis |
| 01:44.48 | swift110 | i see |
| 01:45.04 | BoyDoy | actually iom installing a graphite-web now ineed a port open the 8000 tru 127.0.0.1 |
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| 01:47.12 | nvz | all ports are open through 127.0.0.1 its the loopback interface |
| 01:47.36 | nvz | what you need is to install a web server I'm guessing and then configure that to listen on whatever port and interface |
| 01:47.51 | BoyDoy | yes |
| 01:48.24 | BoyDoy | when i execute the lsof no port 8000 |
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| 01:51.45 | nvz | BoyDoy: thats because you don't have anything listening.. you probably just installed graphite-web I would guess |
| 01:52.05 | nvz | which is just a django web app it needs a webserver to run on |
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| 01:52.59 | BoyDoy | i already installed graphite-web |
| 01:53.03 | nvz | BoyDoy: https://graphite.readthedocs.io/en/latest/config-webapp.html describes two methods to use nginx as the webserver and one to use apache |
| 01:53.16 | nvz | BoyDoy: do not issue any pip commands, use the apt commands instead |
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| 01:53.44 | nvz | yes, well as I said numerous times now graphite-web is just a web application, it needs a web server to run on |
| 01:54.12 | BoyDoy | how about uwsgi? |
| 01:54.36 | nvz | ,i uwsgi |
| 01:54.37 | judd | Package uwsgi (web, optional) in buster/amd64: fast, self-healing application container server. Version: 2.0.18-1; Size: 50.4k; Installed: 104k; Homepage: http://projects.unbit.it/uwsgi/ |
| 01:54.41 | BoyDoy | by the way how can i open port 8000? |
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| 01:55.26 | nvz | you dont open the port, you need to install something to listen on the port.. like nginx or apache |
| 01:56.00 | BoyDoy | ihave already apache |
| 01:56.33 | nvz | did you install the mod_swgi ? |
| 01:56.36 | BoyDoy | i exec command systmctl restart apache2 they have error |
| 01:56.48 | BoyDoy | yesa already installed |
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| 01:57.54 | nvz | BoyDoy: systemctl status apache2 | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 01:59.07 | nvz | I'm about to leave this area where I'm getting wifi from.. will be home in like 15min or so.. maybe someone else can help or you can read the docs I posted a link to |
| 01:59.24 | BoyDoy | ok.. thank you nvz |
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| 02:07.26 | karlpinc | I've always found getting uwsgi to work with apache is a pain in the butt. Nginx is eaiser. |
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| 02:43.02 | nvz | well those docs had two different nginx approaches |
| 02:43.19 | nvz | I personally prefer lighttpd its easy to configure but idk about for stuff like this |
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| 02:45.45 | nvz | I like lighttpd cause its real easy to setup multiple different server paths and ports |
| 02:46.11 | nvz | its more like how apache used to be back in the day |
| 02:46.56 | nvz | I never tried nginx but I run across it a lot on the web.. it seems popular |
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| 03:27.00 | themill | | means it's within a block of alternates. (also #ubuntu is over â) |
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| 04:59.39 | Agiofws | hello i have just upgraded to buster and i think that sbin is not in roots $PATH or i can't run any /usr/sbin executables any reason ? |
| 05:01.33 | nvz | !buster su |
| 05:01.33 | dpkg | The <su> command changed in buster: it no longer overrides the PATH variable so commands normally available to root are not found. Put ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes in /etc/login.defs to get an approximation of the old behavior, or just use `su -` instead of plain `su`. See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for workarounds. |
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| 05:03.37 | Agiofws | ok thanks |
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| 05:09.43 | annadane | how do you "autoremove" packages installed via build-dep? |
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| 05:14.04 | annadane | well okay i guess just look through history.log and manually get rid of stuff |
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| 05:18.10 | nvz | apt autoremove ? |
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| 05:47.14 | nvz | annadane: http://paste.debian.net/1097826/ |
| 05:48.42 | nvz | hmm.. thats apparently buggy :P but individually each step works near as I can tell |
| 05:48.49 | nvz | goes back to the drawing board |
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| 05:50.12 | nvz | ah.. duh |
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| 05:52.29 | nvz | annadane: http://paste.debian.net/1097827/ sorry about that.. forgot two really important bits.. the actually grepping the logs and the breaking out of the loop when its found :P |
| 05:52.57 | nvz | as-is has to be run as root, can put sudo or pkexec in front of the apt command and it can be ran as normal user |
| 05:54.10 | nvz | not my best work, but it works.. tested it with apt build-dep beep and bundep beep |
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| 05:56.54 | nvz | maybe someday I'll put a proper awk/sed/perl expression in there and get rid of all that cut, tr, crap :P |
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| 05:59.29 | nvz | I haven't extensively tested that but I think it'll only remove what was actually installed not previously installed build-deps cause I dont think the install line in the apt history log will show things you already had |
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| 06:01.19 | nvz | I'll probably work on it some more by the weekend and maybe consider setting up a repo for all the bash scripts I been doing lately.. I'm getting better at bash now.. I can actually share some of these :P |
| 06:02.21 | nvz | it mostly just needs cleanup, comments, and ran through shellcheck and peer-reviewed .. its pretty solid as-is |
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| 06:03.34 | nvz | its 2am so.. I'm not gonna do all that now.. maybe tomorrow :P |
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| 07:41.35 | no_gravity | A wonderful morning everybody. |
| 07:42.25 | no_gravity | Any ideas how to make the window shadows larger on the mate desktop? |
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| 08:28.37 | no_gravi1y | I just found out you can make the compton compositor dim inactive windows. That is pretty ace. But for some reason, terminal windows are not faded when another terminal window is active. I wonder why. |
| 08:29.13 | ZaZaGX | no idea |
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| 08:32.30 | BCMM | no_gravi1y: how does the "dim" work? is it reducing brightness, or just saturation? |
| 08:32.43 | no_gravi1y | BCMM: Brightness. |
| 08:32.50 | no_gravi1y | It looks pretty awesome. Almost like a no-distraction writing environment. |
| 08:32.53 | BCMM | (in case the effect is simply not visible on mostly black-and-white windows) |
| 08:33.19 | no_gravi1y | I now noticed that the same problem occurs with Firefox. When one Firefox window is active, the others do not get dimmed. |
| 08:33.40 | no_gravi1y | While Chromium windows *do* get dimmed when another Chromium window is active. |
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| 08:34.04 | no_gravi1y | Maybe the terminal and Firefox do some trickery like group multiple windows in one process or something? |
| 08:34.05 | BCMM | hmmm. maybe it's sort of "inactive application" rather than "inactive window" |
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| 08:34.25 | BCMM | i mean, it might be annoying if gimp's toolbox, for example, was dimmed any time it wasn't currently active |
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| 08:34.32 | no_gravity | Hmm... |
| 08:35.32 | no_gravity | Too bad. It would be such a nice environment with inactive windows dimmed. |
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| 08:37.14 | no_gravity | I could try to make the terminal always run in a new process. But how? |
| 08:37.41 | BCMM | is there no configuration for the inactive windows feature? |
| 08:38.34 | no_gravity | I don't know. I made a file ~/.config/compton.conf and put some config options there. |
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| 08:43.02 | no_gravity | Ha, I got it working! |
| 08:43.10 | no_gravity | By throwing a ton of options at it. |
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| 08:43.20 | no_gravity | Now I will have to figure out which of the options it is :) |
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| 08:46.26 | no_gravity | Unfortunately there are a ton of options to configure what to dim. |
| 08:46.47 | no_gravity | And most changes result in ugly stuff like dropdowns becomming shadowed etc :) |
| 08:47.07 | no_gravity | Back to the defaults for now ... |
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| 08:48.39 | humpled | heheh |
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| 08:52.24 | ws2k3 | how can i monitor which files/dirs are being access by nfs? i have a huge ioload on my machine. it seems to be coming from nfs. but im not sure what is accessed |
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| 09:21.48 | ws2k3 | is there a way to monitor which files are being accessed over nfs? i already tryed lsof iotop vmstat nfsstat but nothing seems to work |
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| 09:22.13 | beavis | then you're doing it wrong |
| 09:22.25 | ws2k3 | beavis: then how should i do it |
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| 09:24.01 | ws2k3 | beavis: lsof -p busynfsprochere only shows cwd / rtd / and txt /proc/4420/exe |
| 09:25.31 | ws2k3 | beavis: also tryed lsof -b <nfs-share-mount-point> which gave me nothing but errors |
| 09:25.43 | beavis | why not lsof | grep nfs |
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| 09:26.09 | beavis | also iftop for life preview |
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| 09:26.16 | beavis | iotop* |
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| 09:27.27 | ws2k3 | beavis: iotop only shows the pids but not any locations |
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| 09:28.45 | ws2k3 | beavis: lsof | grep nfs only shows me alot of / and /proc/pid/exe but also no locations |
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| 09:31.19 | beavis | eh then idk |
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| 09:31.33 | Fox | ws2k3: I would use iwatch for that |
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| 09:32.04 | Fox | tell it to watch your nfs share and increment counters every time files are accessed in there |
| 09:32.21 | Fox | you could then have statistics about your nfs files |
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| 09:36.07 | ws2k3 | Fox: something like: iwatch -e access,open /path? |
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| 09:37.04 | Cabs | Hi ! |
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| 09:37.27 | Cabs | If anyone have an idea about this issue -> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/538020/invalid-encoding-iso-8859-1 ? |
| 09:38.03 | Fox | ws2k3: something like that, with a script to increment counters (in a file, in a database, whatever) everytime files are accessed |
| 09:38.19 | Fox | then later you can check those counters and have a report |
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| 09:39.26 | Fox | ws2k3: iwatch -re access,open -c "increment.{sh,py,go,etc.) %f" /path |
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| 09:40.55 | tdn | If i do " dpkg --get-selections "*" > curr-pkgs.txt" how can I then copy curr-pkgs.txt to a different machine and have that install all the same packages? |
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| 09:41.12 | tdn | Can I do dpkg --set-selection < curr-pkgs.txt ? |
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| 09:41.41 | tdn | Or is there some other easy way to create a new copy of the machine with exact same packages installed? |
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| 09:43.06 | ws2k3 | Fox: hmm thats odd im getting no Can't watch /path: No space left on device |
| 09:43.24 | ws2k3 | its a zfs file system but im not sure if that is relevant |
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| 09:43.59 | tdn | ws2k3, is it actually full? |
| 09:44.05 | ws2k3 | no |
| 09:44.16 | tdn | ws2k3, what about inodes? (df -i) |
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| 09:44.45 | dcpc007 | hi, i have a binary that i can't launch on debian 9 (-bash: file or folder not found) |
| 09:44.55 | dcpc007 | file <<file> : lmutil: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.3, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, stripped |
| 09:45.03 | f8e3 | i have 'sudo apt-get install nginx' can can only start with 'sudo nginx' why not $nginx only? |
| 09:45.13 | dcpc007 | this binary works on olders like Debian 7 |
| 09:45.32 | dcpc007 | it's the lastest binary version available |
| 09:45.33 | ws2k3 | inode look fine to. they show 2% IUse% |
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| 09:46.01 | ksk | f8e3: because only root can start services? (because biding to a lowport requiers CAP_NET_ADMIN under linux - root permissions so to say) |
| 09:46.10 | Fox | ws2k3: I don't understand, you want to monitor faile access through nfs and you watch a zfs share |
| 09:46.20 | Fox | s/faile/file/ |
| 09:46.33 | ws2k3 | Fox: its a zfs filesystem with an nfs server |
| 09:46.45 | Fox | oh, ok |
| 09:47.24 | Fox | ws2k3: add the -v flag and check the ouput |
| 09:47.47 | f8e3 | ksk: but http-server -a 0.0.0.0 -p 8081 works just fine ? |
| 09:47.51 | ws2k3 | to df -i or ? |
| 09:48.27 | ksk | f8e3: because port 8081 is not a highport? :> |
| 09:48.44 | ksk | eh, its a highport, not a low one (low goes until 1024 iirC) |
| 09:48.52 | ws2k3 | Fox: or add -v to iwatch |
| 09:49.06 | Fox | that's what I just said ;) |
| 09:49.09 | f8e3 | ksk ah ok thank you |
| 09:49.21 | ksk | f8e3: "0â1023" are "Well known Ports" - and you need to be root (at some point) to bind them |
| 09:49.32 | ws2k3 | i did |
| 09:49.41 | f8e3 | yet '-bash: nginx: command not found' if $nginx, its not the ports |
| 09:49.47 | ksk | f8e3: there would be nothing wrong with for example allowing $user to restart $service via sudo - depending on your setup |
| 09:49.56 | ksk | f8e3: thats about PATH.. |
| 09:50.05 | ksk | what are you really trying to do in the first place please? |
| 09:50.23 | f8e3 | serve static files via nginx, i apt installed, now i wonder |
| 09:50.27 | ksk | if you want "start the webserver" - please use systemctl to do that - do not invoke daemons via shell :X |
| 09:50.40 | ksk | !tell f8e3 about debian handbook |
| 09:50.50 | ksk | maybe take a look at the handbook, you seem to be missing fundamentals. |
| 09:50.58 | f8e3 | ksk ok thank you |
| 09:51.04 | ksk | "How do I start services on (debian) linux" |
| 09:51.17 | tdn | I want a new debian machine with all the same packages installed as an existing debian machine. How do to this? |
| 09:51.27 | ws2k3 | fox maby its failing cause i have Many many dirs so maby there is an inotify limit |
| 09:51.34 | ksk | (spoiler: "systemctl start $service" -> systemctl start nginx - you need to be root (or use sudo) to issue that command) |
| 09:51.50 | ksk | !tell tdn about get-selection |
| 09:52.03 | dcpc007 | found ... in lsb package, all was installed, unless lsb-compat |
| 09:52.12 | Fox | ws2k3: what user are you using ? root ? |
| 09:52.23 | ws2k3 | Fox: yes |
| 09:52.31 | ksk | tdn: eh, take a look at "dpkg get-selection/set-selection" - I am missing the factoid trigger right now ;) |
| 09:52.35 | Fox | I'm out of idea for the moment then |
| 09:52.38 | tdn | ksk, if i do " dpkg --get-selections "*" > curr-pkgs.txt" how can I then copy curr-pkgs.txt to a different machine and have that install all the same packages? Can I do dpkg --set-selection < curr-pkgs.txt ? |
| 09:52.55 | ksk | tdn: yeah, something like that, did not use it in a while. |
| 09:53.12 | Fox | I think the problem might be with zfs |
| 09:53.30 | ksk | tdn: (see man dpkg) but I think what you described is about it.. |
| 09:55.07 | tdn | ksk, ok |
| 09:55.12 | tdn | ksk, thanks |
| 09:55.13 | humpled | you don't need "*" |
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| 09:55.45 | Fox | ws2k3: you could mount bind that zfs share somewhere else and then use iwatch on that mount |
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| 09:56.29 | Fox | somewhere else = not on a zfs share |
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| 10:02.18 | ws2k3 | i would say it should be easyer to find those things on the machine itself |
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| 10:02.42 | ws2k3 | nfs is causing a very high disk io. and i cant find the cause. realy frustrating. |
| 10:03.33 | ksk | ws2k3: how about "Normal where is the load coming from tools"? |
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| 10:03.53 | ksk | like, should you not be able to see which files get acccessed on the linux, excluding the NFS for now? (atop, for example) |
| 10:04.32 | Fox | on the server with the zfs share (nfs server if i'm correct) you just "mount -o bind /path /path_not_on_zfs" and then "iwatch -re access,open -c "increment.{sh,py,go,etc.) %f" /path_not_on_zfs" |
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| 10:04.51 | nona | hm |
| 10:04.54 | Fox | time for lunch, bbl |
| 10:04.58 | nona | <x> hello |
| 10:05.29 | nona | why meny people join to this grp |
| 10:05.43 | nona | any one? |
| 10:05.44 | nona | hello |
| 10:05.56 | nona | damn no one anwer |
| 10:06.08 | nona | hello |
| 10:06.21 | nona | fuck |
| 10:06.26 | ws2k3 | ksk well the load is caused by a high disk io |
| 10:06.47 | nona | oh hi ws2k3 |
| 10:06.51 | nona | are u gay |
| 10:06.53 | ws2k3 | i can see nfsd is very high in cpu |
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| 10:07.26 | ws2k3 | iotop show me that 8 nfsd processes are at 99% wa |
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| 10:13.11 | ksk | ws2k3: did you read what Fox wrote? |
| 10:13.53 | ksk | iwatch looks promising - though it will most likely take some time / might not improve your load upon usage etc ;) |
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| 10:16.23 | ws2k3 | ksk Fox how would that help? |
| 10:16.33 | ws2k3 | then its just an iwatch outside the zfs share |
| 10:17.25 | ksk | then freaking use that iwatch on the target of your nfsshare? what happend to good ol trial and error? |
| 10:17.39 | ksk | if your systems performance is beyond good now anyways, what could possibly go wrong? :P |
| 10:18.11 | ws2k3 | ksk i already did run iwatch on the nfs server |
| 10:18.28 | ws2k3 | but yeah you right on that matter trail and error is good :P |
| 10:18.54 | ksk | ws2k3: and did that iwatch then not tell you which files are accessed? |
| 10:19.04 | ksk | (never used it before I have to admit..) |
| 10:19.36 | ws2k3 | nope i showed some no more space left on device errors |
| 10:19.45 | ws2k3 | proberly cause its spawning 9999999 inotify's |
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| 10:26.39 | ksk | ws2k3: you do "iwatch /path/of/nfs-target" (not the nfs mount) - whats the output? |
| 10:26.43 | anddam | howdy, is this an issue on anaconda deb repo side? https://gist.github.com/anddam/ae20e146016f2b80251d26b4016ee7e6 |
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| 10:27.02 | ksk | !ppa |
| 10:27.02 | dpkg | [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>. |
| 10:27.35 | anddam | ksk: oh I see |
| 10:27.36 | anddam | thanks |
| 10:27.44 | ksk | anddam: you installed a third party repo - please refer to its creator for support. |
| 10:27.56 | ksk | that third party repo is not part of debian. |
| 10:28.29 | ksk | eh, that is not debian at all, is it? :P |
| 10:28.30 | ksk | !ubuntu |
| 10:28.31 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 10:28.35 | anddam | that I understand, but it's an issue with an inconsistent package, right? |
| 10:29.14 | anddam | i.e. not a local metadata file that has inconsistent data with the package, the apt update would have retrieved the proper metadata, right? |
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| 10:30.35 | ksk | where is mr plonk if you need em :( |
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| 10:34.49 | ws2k3 | ksk that outputs nothing |
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| 10:42.38 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Does anyone have an unmodified copy of apache2.conf that I could look at or know where I can peek at a copy? |
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| 10:44.17 | Lady_Aleena | I'm quasi-idly curious. |
| 10:44.53 | ksk | ws2k3: meh, okay. on the nfs share then? It might be of course nfs is creating load because of "internal nfs problem" and not because of " not enough IO bandwith available for requests" |
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| 10:45.14 | ksk | !tell Lady_Aleena about confmiss |
| 10:45.35 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, would that send me a dm? |
| 10:45.39 | ksk | yes. |
| 10:45.53 | ksk | !confmiss |
| 10:45.53 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 10:46.12 | ksk | Lady_Aleena: also, you could browse a packages file a https://packages.debian.org |
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| 10:46.25 | ksk | s/file/files |
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| 10:47.16 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, I just wanted to look at an unmodified version. I have so heavily modified mine over the years, that I can't remember what the original looked like. |
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| 10:49.13 | amiok | hi, i have lost my interfaces file. and i am trying to set it up again. however my net interface should be called enp2s0 and doesnt work |
| 10:49.34 | amiok | where or how can i verify the right name for the interface? |
| 10:50.32 | spacekat | ip l |
| 10:50.35 | amiok | lspci shows 02:00.0 |
| 10:53.00 | amiok | spacekat, ip l says ens128 however enabling it on interfaces and issuing ifup doesnt get any net reply |
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| 10:55.09 | spacekat | ip link set ens128 up |
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| 10:57.18 | amiok | spacekat it does nothing.. |
| 10:57.25 | spacekat | sorry |
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| 10:57.33 | spacekat | p link set dev <interface> up |
| 10:57.37 | spacekat | ip |
| 10:57.42 | amiok | any idea how to auto regenerate the interface file as in the installer? |
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| 10:58.11 | amiok | or how to find out the right interface name to use with ip command |
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| 11:15.28 | tinga | Hi. Does anyone know how I can configure less so that when searching via "/", it positions the result not at the top of the screen but in the center or n lines from the top? |
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| 11:20.46 | ws2k3 | turns out there was one directory with many many folders in it. which caused the high io load |
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| 11:36.44 | ksk | chrchr, the classic "I have only like 1m subfolders in 1m folders" - why so slow |
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| 11:37.10 | tinga | Oh my. `less -j10 foo` actually does what I want, it just doesn't work when passed via LESS env var: the option as in `LESS=-j10 less foo` has no effect. |
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| 11:45.27 | tinga | Oh *my!*. And I found out why: I'm using a lesskey config file, ~/.lesskey, which defines options via #env LESS=... |
| 11:45.42 | tinga | That apparently has higher precedence than the actual env variable. Noooo. |
| 11:46.18 | tinga | It should always be config file < env var < command-line option for priorities. |
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| 11:48.11 | tinga | This means that I can't use lesskey anymore, have to move *everything* into the real env var. |
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| 11:59.39 | Fox | ws2k3: cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches |
| 11:59.47 | Fox | you should get 8192 |
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| 12:00.02 | Fox | increase that to the level you want and try again |
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| 12:00.58 | Fox | an echo in max_user_watches is ok for testing, if you want to change it for real just set fs.inotify.max_user_watches to the desired value in sysctl |
| 12:01.05 | choice | Hello! I would like to figure out why my Thunderbird starts slow. How would you guys go about this? |
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| 12:07.59 | petn-randall | choice: Do you have a lot of extensions installed? |
| 12:08.13 | choice | petn-randall: Never installed one. |
| 12:08.21 | petn-randall | choice: How slow are we talking? |
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| 12:08.30 | choice | A few seconds. Enough to be annoying. |
| 12:08.33 | choice | Since Thunderbird is only slow the first time after a reboot, do I have to reboot every time I want to test a setting, or can I flush linux caches or something? |
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| 12:08.52 | petn-randall | That's ... just normal? |
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| 12:09.20 | choice | It was faster in the past. |
| 12:09.20 | petn-randall | Is this on a SSD or spinning platter? |
| 12:09.22 | jelly | choice: echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches |
| 12:09.34 | choice | jelly: That will drop the caches once? |
| 12:09.39 | jelly | yes |
| 12:09.52 | choice | Ok, let me try ... |
| 12:10.06 | jelly | quit the app before, probably |
| 12:10.19 | choice | Hmm... Thunderbird started reasonably fast after that. 3s or so. |
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| 12:11.07 | choice | Maybe it is because I now disabled the "Messaging Menu and Unity Launcher integration" extension. |
| 12:11.16 | choice | Will have to see after a reboot. |
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| 12:14.26 | choice | Ok, rebooting ... |
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| 12:17.56 | Fox | ws2k3: did you try ? |
| 12:18.14 | ws2k3 | turns out there was one directory with many many folders in it. which caused the high io load |
| 12:18.30 | ws2k3 | the rm is still running. it had to delete 6 million folders |
| 12:18.38 | Fox | it's always been a problem, even without nfs |
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| 12:55.41 | petn-randall | That sounded a lot like an Ubuntu extension. |
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| 12:57.55 | ws2k3 | petn-randall: what do you mean exacly? |
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| 12:59.18 | spacekat | hello amiok |
| 12:59.29 | spacekat | can this help you |
| 12:59.46 | spacekat | root@debian10:/etc/apt# which nmtui |
| 12:59.46 | spacekat | /usr/bin/nmtui |
| 12:59.46 | spacekat | root@debian10:/etc/apt# dpkg -S /usr/bin/nmtui |
| 12:59.46 | spacekat | network-manager: /usr/bin/nmtui |
| 12:59.48 | spacekat | root@debian10:/etc/apt# |
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| 13:59.21 | afernandez_ | is a process suppose to use 100% cpu? |
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| 14:00.00 | colo-work | if it does useful work, sure |
| 14:00.08 | greycat | At any given moment, a process is either running, or not running. If it's running, it is using 100% CPU at that moment in time. If it's not running, it is using 0% CPU at that moment in time. |
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| 14:00.31 | greycat | If you ever see a percentage of CPU usage that is not 0 or 100, you are looking at an AVERAGE over some interval of time. |
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| 14:00.39 | afernandez_ | Thank you. |
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| 14:02.08 | greycat | CPU time is normally doled out in "ticks", which are 1/100 of a second, or thereabouts. So for a given process, over the interval of one second of time, there are 100 ticks... if the CPU was being used in 37 of those ticks, and not used in 63 of those ticks, then a reporting program may write "37% CPU", and this is to be understood as the average CPU usage over that interval. |
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| 14:09.11 | HighMemoryDaemon | Hi, folks! Do you think Emacs 26.3 will make it into Debian Stable? They fixed a major bug. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2019-08/msg00577.html |
| 14:09.34 | greycat | When bullseye is stable, it's possible it will contain this newer version. |
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| 14:11.47 | petn-randall | HighMemoryDaemon: bugfixes tend to get backported in Debian. |
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| 14:12.17 | greycat | If this "major bug" has security aspects, an attempt to backport the fix to emacs 26.1 may be undertaken. |
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| 14:13.48 | HighMemoryDaemon | By "major bug" I meant that by default you couldn't download any Emacs packages. 26.3 contains a new GPG key that fixes this. |
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| 14:14.09 | greycat | Doesn't sound like a security bug, so it's unlikely it will be backported. |
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| 14:14.51 | HighMemoryDaemon | When you say "backport" are you talking about backports.debian.org? |
| 14:14.52 | abrotman | Could contact the maintainer to ask (or check existing bugs in the BTS to see if it's already been reported) |
| 14:14.59 | greycat | !security |
| 14:14.59 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
| 14:15.19 | greycat | ... |
| 14:15.46 | greycat | !security faq |
| 14:15.46 | dpkg | "The most important guideline when making a new package that fixes a security problem is to make as few changes as possible. ... moving to a new upstream version is not a good solution, instead the relevant changes should be backported." https://www.debian.org/security/faq |
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| 14:18.33 | afernandez_ | Do the Bose Companion 5 speakers work with any Debian? |
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| 14:22.21 | nvz | greycat: what was that glob trick you'd showed me before that matches files recusively from the CWD? |
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| 14:26.42 | afernandez_ | nvz: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob |
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| 14:29.07 | nvz | seems like a double wildcard does it |
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| 14:42.41 | bullgard4 | What bugs are tagged "transition"? See https://release.debian.org/transitions/ |
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| 14:48.39 | themill | !transition |
| 14:48.39 | dpkg | A transition occurs when changes in a package require alterations to several other packages which depend on it. To do this, many packages using the package are updated, either being recompiled or updated to a new version; packages blocking a transition might be removed from <testing> so it can complete. Transitions can become very large and complex, involving tens or even hundreds of packages. http://release.debian.org/transitions/ |
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| 14:50.22 | bullgard4 | themill: Thank you. |
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| 15:28.14 | f8e3 | how to monitor process of nodejs python redis etc if down notify via mail? |
| 15:28.38 | f8e3 | whats the standard way to do this how to research this topic |
| 15:29.18 | f8e3 | https://superuser.com/a/687188 so many, no idea, whats robust standard simplest |
| 15:29.31 | greycat | Well, the *first* thing you want to do is define your service so that it respawns automatically. |
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| 15:30.13 | greycat | If you also want to monitor it from the outside, you should construct something that can probe the service and tell you whether it's responding correctly. E.g. if it's a web server, try requesting the headers for the / page. |
| 15:31.06 | f8e3 | it is no wserver, a simple python process eg |
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| 15:32.06 | greycat | well, figure out how you use it, and then attempt to use it. |
| 15:32.21 | f8e3 | use which program see link |
| 15:32.39 | greycat | Use your brain. |
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| 15:37.24 | f8e3 | ok down to supevisor and systemd, pid1 is systemd so it is i guess |
| 15:37.50 | f8e3 | and it has https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service#Restart= too |
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| 15:41.32 | no_gravity | After scroll up in a terminal (mate-terminal in my case) is there a quick way to get back to the bottom? |
| 15:42.10 | greycat | grab the scroll bar with the mouse and drag it all the way down? |
| 15:42.23 | greycat | hit space and then backspace? |
| 15:42.48 | no_gravity | greycat: I prefer to not have a scollbar. |
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| 15:43.18 | no_gravity | greycat: spacea and backspace has no effect in my terminal. It keeps at the current scroll position. |
| 15:43.51 | greycat | *shrug* works in urxvt. I don't know mate-terminal. |
| 15:44.26 | no_gravity | Oh, "scroll on keystroke" is an option! Fixed! |
| 15:45.16 | no_gravity | Thanks! |
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| 16:15.25 | shtrb | Good day , was scanimage max resolution 600 always or is that some some scanner specific configuration ? usb connected scanner |
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| 16:17.12 | karlpinc | shtrb: I always use xsane. It has knob to turn to set scanner resolution, depending on the scanner. |
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| 16:20.39 | karlpinc | shtrb: "scanimage -h" looks at your scanner and presents various options that are available. My scanner support --resolution. |
| 16:20.43 | shtrb | Hi karlpinc , thanks will check that. I was surprised I could sware it support 1200 but was failing for me with buster |
| 16:21.06 | shtrb | so do mine , but when I had transfered 1200 it was downgraded to 75 |
| 16:21.14 | shtrb | had to use 600 |
| 16:21.36 | karlpinc | shtrb: Does -h say it supports 1200? |
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| 16:22.06 | shtrb | I will check in a few seconds , the moment it finish to scan one page at 600 |
| 16:23.37 | shtrb | scanimage -h is just a help page |
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| 16:32.29 | r0ck3th | hi |
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| 16:32.41 | r0ck3th | question is there someone in this server that can invite me to #linux channel |
| 16:33.13 | avu | r0ck3th: you probably want ##linux anyway |
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| 16:34.26 | OS-46011 | !gh0st |
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| 16:34.54 | pasiz | OS-46011: !bu5ter5 |
| 16:35.52 | OS-46011 | !bu5ter5 |
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| 16:38.23 | karlpinc | shtrb: Yes. -h is a help page. But it is dynamic. It looks at your device before it gives you help and tells you what choices are available for your device. |
| 16:38.34 | OS-46011 | :) |
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| 16:39.22 | shtrb | karlpinc, so If got --resolution 75|100|200|300|600dpi [75] that 1200 is just no supported by my scanner ? |
| 16:39.26 | shtrb | facepalms |
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| 16:40.08 | karlpinc | shtrb: Yes. Now, perhaps there's a sane config option or setup of some sort of "driver" or whatnot that will give you more choices. Dunno. |
| 16:40.50 | karlpinc | shtrb: I recall having various choices of what "sane driver" to use. |
| 16:41.12 | karlpinc | !tell shtrb about readme.debian |
| 16:41.21 | shtrb | Thanks , I will google little bit about the sane drivers |
| 16:42.03 | karlpinc | shtrb: Look first at the sane docs in /usr/share/doc/*sane*/... |
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| 16:42.28 | karlpinc | shtrb: The bug tracking system might also have info, if support for something was dropped. |
| 16:43.04 | karlpinc | shtrb: See also: man -k sane |
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| 16:43.49 | shtrb | thanks |
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| 16:44.29 | karlpinc | shtrb: There is also a libsane-extras package for extra backend drivers, and maybe some more for specific devices. "aptitude search sane" |
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| 16:52.38 | jhave | Hello |
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| 16:53.08 | jhave | I have a network problem on a fresh debian 9 VM |
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| 16:53.25 | jhave | Gateway is out of subnet |
| 16:53.33 | jhave | but its not route correct :( |
| 16:53.37 | nvz | man -k is just a silly command.. using -θ would have made about as much sense |
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| 16:54.06 | jhave | I have used this guide |
| 16:54.07 | jhave | https://docs.ovh.com/gb/en/dedicated/network-bridging/ |
| 16:54.38 | jhave | but im not able to ping the gateway :( |
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| 16:55.28 | nvz | I fail to see a debian issue here |
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| 17:01.35 | nvz | jhave: not a thing you said made any sense or indicated a debian issue.. you seem to have a networking issue with an unknown host and an unknown vm, using some random document.. the fact that you mention the guest is debian doesn't give us anything to work with cause the problem is most likely not on the guest end and we know absoultely nothing about the rest |
| 17:04.09 | shtrb | jhave, check ##networking |
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| 17:07.30 | mmfood | I'm trying to install Debian RAID1 -> Luks -> LVM. I used the installer to set it up, but after reboot grub cannot find the lvm device and falls into rescue mode. It seems the installer didn't specify any of the raid/luks/lvm modules to be insterted from what I can tell from /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* so I booted the live cd and chrooted (with rbinds for /dev /sys and /proc into the disk and added them. But when I run grub-install it says "WARNING: |
| 17:07.30 | mmfood | Device /dev/sda not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds.". I found a thread about a similar thread but on arch that said to also bind /run/lvm to a directory on the mounted system and then symlink /run/lvm to it, but that didn't work either. What am I missing? |
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| 17:08.23 | jhave | https://i.imgur.com/6TopGCm.png |
| 17:08.30 | jhave | Its my interface file |
| 17:09.08 | nvz | totally useless information |
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| 17:10.43 | nvz | I am ***** ***** and my ***** is ***** and ******* because when I ****** and ***** it says ******.. can anyone help? |
| 17:11.05 | zamuro | !ask |
| 17:11.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:11.09 | nvz | you're already not providing enough information then you give a screenshot of a redacted interface file |
| 17:12.17 | nvz | setting netmask to 255.255.255.255 is same as saying I'm all alone on this subnet |
| 17:12.35 | nvz | thats not a network |
| 17:12.44 | nvz | its the opposite of a network |
| 17:12.52 | digdilem | a notwork |
| 17:13.02 | nvz | exactly |
| 17:13.10 | jhave | nvz, its a small subnet ;) |
| 17:13.34 | jhave | the problem its not possible to get routed out to the gateway |
| 17:13.52 | nvz | thats YOUR problem |
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| 17:14.04 | nvz | our problem is we know absolutely nothing to be of any help |
| 17:14.26 | jhave | nvz, what information do you need ? |
| 17:15.05 | nvz | everything? the big picture.. what the host is, what VM it is, what the network is.. |
| 17:16.31 | jhave | Its a debian 9 VM hosted on a Proxmox node, its OVH network. There guide i use |
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| 17:19.15 | nvz | and it looks like you've followed it.. |
| 17:20.11 | nvz | so again, I fail to see how this is a debian issue.. you're apparently not in control of the host, network, neither are we.. seems you should be taking this issue up with those who are |
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| 17:20.33 | jhave | ok :) |
| 17:21.00 | mmfood | nvm, turned out I needed to mount --rbind /run as well :) |
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| 17:22.09 | nvz | https://www.ovh.co.uk/support/contact-us/ |
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| 17:24.17 | mmfood | but another question about grub, I have only used UEFI before but now I am using MBR. Is it correct that I can install grub to the MBR and then have the rest of the system on the RAID1 -> LUKS -> LVM setup? Or do I still need /boot outside of it? |
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| 17:25.45 | nvz | mmfood: you install grub to the MBR for legacy bios booting, but you would simplify things by putting /boot outside all that crap, yes.. otherwise you need the bootloader to be able to navigate RAID, LUKS, LVM just to load the kernel |
| 17:26.40 | nvz | I personally am using LUKS enrypted LVM on this machine with legacy booting and I made a seperate /boot outside the LUKS/LVM |
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| 17:27.13 | mmfood | nvz: ok, maybe I'll to that then... but it is possible then, just make sure grub loads the necessary modules? |
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| 17:27.56 | nvz | I'd say the possibility is somewhere between an elephant and a rhino |
| 17:28.54 | nvz | that is to say, elephino.. heh.. though I know people do full disk encryption but I've never done it |
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| 17:29.16 | nvz | dpkg, fde? |
| 17:29.17 | dpkg | nvz: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 17:29.28 | nvz | nope, I sure can't |
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| 17:33.37 | nvz | ,i libreboot |
| 17:33.39 | judd | No package named 'libreboot' was found in buster/amd64. |
| 17:33.47 | nvz | !libreboot |
| 17:34.19 | nvz | mmfood: well, idk anything about it but I've heard people have used libreboot to do it where everything is encrypted |
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| 17:35.39 | nvz | https://libreboot.org/docs/gnulinux/encrypted_debian.html |
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| 18:19.39 | spankerGreece | ti kanete re karioles? |
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| 18:21.59 | annadane | !de |
| 18:21.59 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 18:22.21 | annadane | (apparently german. i'm not sure, sorry if it isn't) |
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| 18:22.43 | greycat | if you're referring to spankerGreece, they left already, and I would assume Greek |
| 18:22.58 | annadane | "greece" in the name isn't a bad hint |
| 18:23.01 | EoflaOE | greycat: You are right, it's Greek. |
| 18:23.10 | annadane | i'm really smart, guys. |
| 18:23.14 | annadane | really. |
| 18:23.30 | EoflaOE | annadane: nice |
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| 18:31.05 | jhutchins_wk | So do we have a greek channel? |
| 18:31.08 | jhutchins_wk | !gr |
| 18:31.08 | dpkg | Îιά βοήθεια ÏÏα Îλληνικά ÏαÏÎ±ÎºÎ±Î»Ï Î´Î¿ÎºÎ¹Î¼Î¬ÏÏε ÏÏο #debian-gr on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org). Gia voitheia sta ellinika dokimaste to #debian-gr on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org). For help in Greek please try #debian-gr on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org). |
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| 18:31.18 | jhutchins_wk | Apparently so. |
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| 18:32.12 | annadane | i can only hope they left before i posted that so they don't see my shocking cultural ignorance and willingness to press ahead with any substandard answer rather than actually address it properly |
| 18:32.14 | greycat | It's on OFTC and it's got modes +nst and therefore you can't even /topic it. |
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| 20:08.11 | vlt | annadane: As a German Iâm curious now: What is your native language? (Because to me not even one of the Greek words above seems similar to German :D ) |
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| 20:24.54 | afra1d | is there any trick I'm missing with USB video devices in Debian? one one of my machines I get the device coming up in /dev/video0 as expected, on another I don't get any device being registered and I'm really not sure what the difference in configuration is. |
| 20:25.16 | afra1d | [11648.165963] input: Microsoft® LifeCam HD-3000: Mi as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0/input/input18 |
| 20:25.16 | afra1d | [11648.166301] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo |
| 20:25.30 | afra1d | on the second machine, i don't get the usbcore log message. |
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| 20:27.43 | jhutchins_wk | afra1d: Different USB hardware configuration? Maybe it's USB3? |
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| 20:32.37 | afra1d | the device is USB2, and they're both USB3 ports on both machines |
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| 20:39.46 | oft_gegong | what software do you use on your Debian? Here is my list: https://github.com/user95f85f/fresh-debian |
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| 20:40.39 | greycat | !popcon |
| 20:40.39 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
| 20:40.49 | oft_gegong | yeah that's what I'm lookin for! |
| 20:42.04 | jhutchins_wk | afra1d: The hardware may be configured differently if the boxes aren't identical. You can check software packages/versions. |
| 20:42.14 | jhutchins_wk | s/check/compare |
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| 20:43.26 | grobi | hello suddenly i had this fatal: Invalid proxy URL 'http://' |
| 20:43.52 | grobi | i have it with git and pip3 |
| 20:44.18 | afra1d | oft_gegong: jhutchins_wk: one sec. one of these is stetch, which I didn't realise. |
| 20:44.21 | oft_gegong | so I have an issue with two things. First, mousepad can't change its font size with Debian XFCE 10.0.0. Second, when the screen locks, I have to go into CTRL+ALT+F2 login and restart the lightdm because the lock screen freezes. |
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| 20:44.43 | grobi | could it be caused from installing debian-edu-installer ? |
| 20:44.44 | greycat | grobi: so, two totally unrelated processes. That points toward http_proxy in your environment. |
| 20:45.23 | grobi | aha greycat ,what can i do to correct this? |
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| 20:45.45 | greycat | figure out if this guess is actually correct, and if so, unset it |
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| 20:46.29 | grobi | i don't know enough about proxies |
| 20:47.14 | greycat | env | grep proxy |
| 20:47.28 | grobi | i autoremoved that package already, but... |
| 20:47.32 | grobi | aha |
| 20:48.43 | jhutchins_wk | grobi: -p? |
| 20:49.16 | grobi | env -p? |
| 20:49.23 | ninja | greycat: touchpad stops working after some time. |
| 20:49.24 | grobi | or grep |
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| 20:50.15 | grobi | greycat: what should it look like? |
| 20:50.30 | greycat | Does it give any output at alL? |
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| 20:51.47 | grobi | i have ftp_proxy=http:// ,https_proxy=http:// and http_proxy=http:// |
| 20:52.33 | greycat | well, as I said, that's your problem. unset those variables. |
| 20:52.33 | grobi | in root i have none |
| 20:52.33 | Dinda_| | in root i have none |
| 20:53.29 | grobi | was this a bot? |
| 20:53.37 | greycat | I assume so |
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| 20:54.07 | grobi | greycat: where can i unset it? |
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| 20:56.36 | jhutchins_wk | grobi: Sorry to be cryptic, I was suggesting that you purge the proxy package, that might clean up config files. |
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| 20:57.40 | grobi | jhutchins_wk: ah ok thanks |
| 20:59.27 | grobi | i found a method https://askubuntu.com/questions/251003/how-to-permanently-disable-http-proxy |
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| 21:02.11 | grobi | is it neccesary |
| 21:02.33 | grobi | to reboot after ubsetting |
| 21:02.41 | greycat | step 1: unset the damned variables as I told you repeatedly. step 2: figure out where *YOU* told your computer to set those variables in the past, and then remove those settings. |
| 21:02.42 | grobi | unsetting |
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| 21:04.40 | afra1d | yeah I have no idea. |
| 21:04.45 | afra1d | guess I'm installing buster \o/ |
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| 21:22.22 | oft_gegong | I wish I could pay someone to submit bugs for me. |
| 21:22.31 | oft_gegong | I'm being zero to six percent serious |
| 21:22.31 | dvs | ??? |
| 21:22.59 | oft_gegong | mousepad on XFCE can't change font size! |
| 21:23.37 | greycat | mouse... pad... |
| 21:23.42 | oft_gegong | lol |
| 21:24.02 | greycat | looks at the mouse pad on his desk, wonders how that's related to fonts |
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| 21:24.08 | oft_gegong | lol |
| 21:24.19 | oft_gegong | the text editor! |
| 21:25.57 | oft_gegong | btw though I got one of those gaming mouse pads. it's soft. |
| 21:27.28 | oft_gegong | I'm gonna file the report once I get Debian booted. Debian has a reportbug gui I believe. |
| 21:27.52 | humpled | do you actually use mousepad or are you just looking for bugs? |
| 21:28.36 | oft_gegong | anybody know why avahi-daemon is running in like every Linux distribution by default? It feels like unnecessary ports being open on the system. |
| 21:29.16 | oft_gegong | humpled: I like to use a GUI text editor from time to time. If mousepad didn't have the font size bug, I would use mousepad at least once every 6 boots. |
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| 21:30.19 | humpled | did you untick "use system monospace font" in preferences? |
| 21:30.28 | oft_gegong | omg I hope I did |
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| 21:31.38 | afra1d | oft_gegong: jhutchins_wk: custom kernel, I'd forgotten. |
| 21:31.41 | oft_gegong | darn it there is a 3% chance I did do that |
| 21:32.30 | oft_gegong | so I have another issue with Debian XFCE. The lock screen locks the entire X11 |
| 21:32.42 | oft_gegong | or Xorg or whatever. the GUI system. |
| 21:33.29 | oft_gegong | I think there is a missing lock screen package that wasn't installed. I'm 3% sure of that. |
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| 21:41.08 | armin | oft_gegong: there's a package called "light-locker". you might want to remove that. |
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| 21:42.10 | oft_gegong | armin: k. I'll give it a shot when my Debian boots. |
| 21:42.28 | armin | oft_gegong: my personal experience when i had that installed was basically the same - it was confusing and didn't do what i expected it to do. i understand that systemd integration is probably the "correct" way of implementing such a thing but it didn't work for me, at all. after removing that package, everything was fine and good with the world. |
| 21:43.24 | oft_gegong | it could be that I don't have screensavers installed. maybe the system freezes after learning there is not screen saver software. |
| 21:44.02 | oft_gegong | but I will first try the light-locker uninstallation |
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| 21:48.38 | humpled | gosh i wonder what will happen then |
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| 21:55.35 | roylaprattep | Debian Jessie still supported by LTS? |
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| 21:56.45 | roylaprattep | or this page is not up to date at all |
| 21:56.46 | roylaprattep | https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
| 21:56.54 | roylaprattep | still listing stretch as stable... |
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| 21:59.35 | karlpinc | roylaprattep: Ok. So it's a wiki, fix it. |
| 22:00.00 | roylaprattep | True. |
| 22:00.06 | roylaprattep | I will. |
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| 22:05.03 | brutser | can you have both a passphrase and keyfile with cryptsetup? |
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| 23:51.00 | tinga | Is there any good way to get a list or statistics of changes that Debian applied to upstream source that turned out to be insecure? |
| 23:53.41 | tinga | I.e. list (or number) of which security relevant (or otherwise serious) fixes were done to code that was added to/modified in a package by Debian, after those packages were released. |
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