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| 04:49.26 | *** topic/#debian is Debian 10 Buster released! /msg dpkg buster; /msg dpkg stretch->buster; /msg dpkg apt suite changed | Oldstable Stretch: /msg dpkg stretch ; /msg dpkg 9.9 ; 9.9 needs dist-upgrade | Jessie: jessie-{updates,backports} removed, /msg dpkg jessie-lts | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net| chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
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| 04:52.24 | themill | Lady_Aleena: you just email to nnnnn@bugs.debian.org (which is what the link at the top of the bug page is) |
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| 05:05.52 | Lady_Aleena | themill, I don't need to add any other fields or special codes in the body? |
| 05:06.54 | Lady_Aleena | How does Debian afford all of these new email addresses? |
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| 05:12.35 | themill | Lady_Aleena: if you're just wanting to send some info to the bug, you need add no additional fields or special codes / headers etc. |
| 05:12.40 | themill | Email addresses cost nothing btw. |
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| 05:40.13 | Phase | What's the most helpful command you've ever found using debian guys? |
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| 05:41.29 | Lady_Aleena | Debian specifically or Linux in general? |
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| 05:44.31 | Phase | Lady_Aleena, either |
| 05:45.25 | Mathisen | the man command |
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| 07:23.04 | zhouhaibo | When will Debian 9.10 be released? |
| 07:24.02 | annadane | i think september 7 or something? |
| 07:24.37 | zhouhaibo | thanks |
| 07:25.12 | annadane | it's whenever 10.1 is which is i think sep 7 |
| 07:25.16 | annadane | trying to find the email and can't |
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| 07:53.21 | themill | !9.10 |
| 07:53.21 | dpkg | Debian 9.10 is scheduled to be released on Sept 7th 2019. This point release will correct some serious bugs and copy security updates across to the main archive. Upgrades to new point releases are trivial to do; ask me about <point release>. |
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| 07:54.06 | themill | (note that it's not really worth waiting for a point release prior to doing something) |
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| 08:00.27 | at0m | themill: 'point release' meaning there will be new .iso's for installation, while repos gets updated as packages become available? |
| 08:00.47 | ZaZaGX | !10.1 |
| 08:00.47 | dpkg | Debian 10.1 is scheduled to be released on Sept 7th 2019. This point release will correct some serious bugs and copy security updates across to the main archive. Upgrades to new point releases are trivial to do; ask me about <point release>. |
| 08:00.58 | ZaZaGX | oh |
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| 08:03.12 | themill | Yes, the main thing about a point release is a new ISO. Things that are on security.d.o get copied into the main archive. Things that are in codename-proposed-updates get copied into the main archive (assorted bug fixes and non-serious security updates). All the packages for those point releases are already available. |
| 08:04.08 | ZaZaGX | can i just update? or do i need to format and reinstall the new release? |
| 08:04.20 | themill | what dpkg said |
| 08:05.58 | at0m | ZaZaGX: so for existing installations, nothing changes. apt update && apt upgrade or whatever you use to keep the installation up-to-date |
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| 08:06.23 | ZaZaGX | cool |
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| 08:35.45 | Phase | Help guys I need help! |
| 08:35.50 | Phase | Why is debian being an egghead to me? |
| 08:35.59 | Phase | I am running debian linux. |
| 08:36.02 | Phase | I've ran the following commands |
| 08:36.05 | Phase | mkdir code |
| 08:36.08 | Phase | cp -Rf code code{1..255} |
| 08:36.12 | Phase | The first cmd created a directory called code The second command is meant to copy the folder called 'code' to code1-code255' |
| 08:36.16 | Phase | It is meant to copy the folder code 255 times... Instead it goes all retarded on me and says: |
| 08:36.20 | Phase | cp: target 'code255' is not a directory... |
| 08:36.25 | Phase | touch file{1..255} works fine! So why not cp? |
| 08:36.29 | Phase | Why does this not work??? |
| 08:36.31 | Phase | What is the solution? =( |
| 08:36.57 | JPT | Perhaps 'man cp' can answer that for you. My guess: cp expects one source and one destination. Not one source and multiple destinations. |
| 08:37.22 | Phase | It's the current working directory destination |
| 08:37.27 | Phase | It's just asking for multiple folder names lol |
| 08:37.44 | Phase | Interesting |
| 08:38.27 | JPT | You could use a loop within your shell to invoke cp multiple times though |
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| 08:38.56 | JPT | for i in {1..255}; do echo $i; done |
| 08:39.00 | JPT | replace echo with anything you like |
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| 08:39.24 | Phase | Yeah that seems a little advanced for me at the moment |
| 08:39.25 | themill | note that in all these commands {1..255} is expanded by the shell and is not seen by the command at all |
| 08:39.28 | Phase | Even though I can kinda see it looks simple |
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| 08:40.01 | Phase | Brace expansions they are called yup? themill ? |
| 08:40.13 | themill | yes |
| 08:40.31 | Phase | <--- newb; still learning... |
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| 08:41.13 | Phase | I wonder if I could use the wild cards |
| 08:41.22 | Phase | So say I wanted to move something.exe into all 255 folders |
| 08:41.39 | Phase | I could do cp -Rf *.exe */ |
| 08:41.40 | themill | cp does not accept multiple destinations |
| 08:41.44 | Phase | Oh damnit.. |
| 08:41.51 | Phase | Stupid piece of shit lol |
| 08:41.54 | themill | (it has a man page) |
| 08:42.06 | Phase | I will read it now |
| 08:42.11 | Phase | But it's useless to me now lol |
| 08:42.22 | Phase | I'll find something else or learn how to use loops |
| 08:42.26 | Phase | Cheers |
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| 09:43.29 | uio1 | Hi, will debian-10.0.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso let me test it as live? I want to install Buster on my Asus eeepc. I tried before with Stretch, but there was no display (and display worked with Lubuntu, well better at least). |
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| 09:54.04 | humpled | no there's another cd marked live |
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| 09:55.43 | uio1 | humpled, Ah. Just found that out on boot. Sigh. |
| 09:56.34 | uio1 | humpled, 2G!! |
| 09:56.51 | mallxs | for building an application i see vala and/or budgie and tips for a start or advice on something else ? |
| 09:56.51 | uio1 | What! |
| 09:57.16 | humpled | yes, the installer one probably doesn't contain all the packages, just the base and instructions to install the rest |
| 09:57.28 | uio1 | Are these seriously the lightest live isos? |
| 09:58.10 | humpled | they seem to all be like that now yes, |
| 09:58.36 | humpled | and xfce will need more than 5Gs disk space to be installed, even though you can trim it to less after that |
| 10:00.47 | uio1 | humpled, Maybe my approach is not the right one. Here's my problem: I installed Stretch on an eeepc a few months ago. The install went fine, but on booting there was no display, other than through an external monitor. Some told me to try Buster, but I don't want to do a lengthy install if I'm not sure it'll have display. How can I ensure display will work before actually installing keeping in mind that the install GUI worked fine last time? |
| 10:01.47 | Burek | try installing buster to see if it works ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 10:02.21 | humpled | i would make a live console only usb and try installing different stuff on top of that |
| 10:02.29 | pasiz | humpled: does new debian kernel include pae? |
| 10:02.38 | humpled | uh |
| 10:02.45 | uio | Burek, 'How can I ensure display will work before actually installing' |
| 10:02.57 | humpled | not sure if there's still a non-pae kernel |
| 10:03.15 | uio | humpled, Hmmm. |
| 10:03.52 | pasiz | humpled: but i think that's not in new releases on default |
| 10:04.05 | uio | humpled, You mean the standard iso? |
| 10:04.23 | humpled | ,v linux-image-586 |
| 10:04.25 | judd | No package named 'linux-image-586' was found in amd64. |
| 10:04.34 | humpled | erm |
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| 10:04.45 | uio | It's 32 bit btw. |
| 10:04.51 | uio | the eeepc. |
| 10:04.55 | humpled | yes sorry i don't know how to use the bot |
| 10:05.18 | uio | ,v help us here! |
| 10:05.19 | judd | No package named 'help' was found in amd64. |
| 10:05.23 | pasiz | eeepc is 32 bit without pae |
| 10:05.25 | uio | thanks judd |
| 10:05.34 | humpled | dpkg: non-pae kernel |
| 10:05.34 | dpkg | i don't know, humpled |
| 10:05.39 | humpled | :v |
| 10:05.55 | uio | pasiz, This would cause issues? |
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| 10:07.12 | pasiz | uio: if your processor are not supporting something that kernel needs, there's no way to boot the kernel... |
| 10:07.31 | uio | pasiz, Was Stretch pae? |
| 10:07.48 | uio | it would boot with stretch, but no display. |
| 10:08.24 | pasiz | oh, what model of eeepc you have |
| 10:08.25 | humpled | well the standard live iso is console only yes, it still doesn't fit on a cd though, there's a lot of locales and compilers in there |
| 10:08.26 | uio | uptime |
| 10:08.35 | uio | Sorry, wrong window : / |
| 10:08.52 | uio | Asus Flare |
| 10:09.24 | uio | humpled, I'm just going for the full XFCE, it's already at 1G downloaded. |
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| 10:10.18 | uio | I could just keep lubuntu on the eeepc, but... I'd really prefer to have Debian on the two machines. |
| 10:10.37 | humpled | supposedly lxde (as in lubuntu) is lighter than xfce and openbox is lighter than that |
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| 10:11.11 | uio | humpled, LXDE is at 2.2G, LXQT at 2.3G |
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| 10:11.49 | uio | humpled, Oh, right. Yes, you mean for the DE. |
| 10:11.52 | pasiz | uio: so you could install debian and boot into it |
| 10:11.58 | uio | humpled, Sorry. |
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| 10:12.23 | uio | pasiz, 'How can I ensure display will work before actually installing' |
| 10:12.40 | pasiz | uio: could you see the installer? |
| 10:12.45 | uio | humpled, Right, I just find LXDE + Debian a pain. |
| 10:12.52 | uio | So half-baked. |
| 10:12.55 | uio | No notifs. |
| 10:13.16 | uio | Apparenly Lubuntu is about as heavy as XFCE + Debian. |
| 10:13.21 | uio | on RAM. |
| 10:14.42 | pasiz | i have i3 debian in x220, it's consuming just now 290 mb memory (just few terminals running. now |
| 10:15.21 | uio | pasiz, Cool. I'm too noobèsque for i3 |
| 10:15.59 | pasiz | uio: i3 is not meant for mouse clicking features. I think xfce would be close |
| 10:16.35 | uio | pasiz, Yeah, I acutally know almost nothing about linux, just enough to break things. |
| 10:16.46 | Burek | that's how you start |
| 10:16.52 | Burek | you learn by breaking |
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| 10:17.11 | pasiz | but if your display is not working after installation, there exists the xserver logs |
| 10:17.27 | uio | Burek, Then I must be learning A LOT! |
| 10:17.56 | Burek | you are, you'll start noticing that later on |
| 10:17.56 | uio | Burek, I actually came across Xubuntu like 7 years ago, but I just have not Linux knowledge to really get too far. |
| 10:18.04 | uio | is sha512 the best? |
| 10:18.12 | uio | as compared to sha256? |
| 10:18.13 | Burek | that's okay, you learn linux in your own pace |
| 10:18.21 | pasiz | uio: depends on use |
| 10:18.24 | uio | Burek, Thanks :) |
| 10:18.31 | uio | pasiz, For checking iso |
| 10:18.41 | pasiz | both work ok. |
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| 10:19.16 | pasiz | changes to get false positive is so small, i think nobody had in real situation where iso is corrupt |
| 10:19.34 | uio | but md5 is bad? |
| 10:20.01 | uio | Does more RAM take more battery? |
| 10:20.12 | uio | [totally aside] |
| 10:20.12 | pasiz | uio: statistically not as good, but again, false positives is REALLY rare |
| 10:20.28 | pasiz | of course more ram is consuming more power |
| 10:20.48 | uio | pasiz, Ah! That's why my computer is KILLING the batter. |
| 10:20.55 | uio | upgraded RAM. |
| 10:20.57 | uio | Sigh. |
| 10:21.04 | uio | Now I get like 1hr max. |
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| 10:21.06 | uio | Anyway. |
| 10:21.26 | pasiz | depends on ram speed and generation, most probably your battery is far from design capacity |
| 10:21.42 | uio | pasiz, Far from design capacity? |
| 10:21.54 | pasiz | uio: do you have new battery? |
| 10:21.58 | pasiz | or used one |
| 10:22.07 | uio | pasiz, It was new in January. |
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| 10:24.07 | lrvick | Anyone have any strategies for generating a list of packages on system A with exact version numbers (and ideally hashes) to a text file, then digesting that text file on another system to force those versions. |
| 10:24.29 | lrvick | Trying to lock -everything- in a debian docker container to ensure deterministic builds. |
| 10:24.45 | uio | I feel stupid I just did ctrl-alt-delete trying to delete a word in terminal and that restarted X. |
| 10:24.48 | uio | Oh dear. |
| 10:24.55 | pasiz | :) |
| 10:25.04 | uio | not the first time either. |
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| 10:26.32 | pasiz | in past, we have trainee. We assign a job to change few parameters on 3 windows servers. Servers are on same kvm than 12 linux machines. Result is ctrl+alt+del reboot of 8 linux servers and after that he find windows machine. |
| 10:26.53 | pasiz | Next job are disabling ctrl+alt+delete on redhats.... |
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| 10:27.22 | pasiz | afk |
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| 10:35.10 | humpled | ctrl-w deletes a word in terminal |
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| 10:37.45 | Lars_1 | hello |
| 10:38.04 | Lars_1 | jelly, hi |
| 10:38.48 | uio | humpled, Wow! Thanks; it works! |
| 10:39.04 | humpled | (: |
| 10:40.19 | uio | humpled, [happy in a mirror] |
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| 10:40.33 | humpled | learnt all these a while ago and they save a lot of time |
| 10:41.26 | humpled | C-u delete back to start of line, C-k delete on til end, C-y pastes |
| 10:42.12 | humpled | C-p and C-n to move back and forth in the command history, C-r and start typing to search ... |
| 10:42.12 | uio | Okay, so the live usb started, but there is no display. |
| 10:42.19 | uio | Well, there is, but no backlight. |
| 10:42.19 | humpled | eek |
| 10:42.28 | uio | I can kinda see the task bars |
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| 10:43.10 | uio | Lubuntu had similar issue so I would force hiberate and then resume and the display would appear. |
| 10:44.04 | uio | Yep, it's there, but no backlight. Brightness buttons are no help. |
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| 10:44.47 | uio | External monitor has perfect display. |
| 10:45.34 | uio | is this a pae thing? |
| 10:46.09 | humpled | don't think so |
| 10:46.20 | uio | humpled, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. |
| 10:46.38 | humpled | pae is about ram and memory management in the kernel |
| 10:46.55 | humpled | sorry i don't know what to suggest, backlight is a hardware thing |
| 10:47.22 | humpled | would try changing all the settings i could find for display on/off and brightness keys |
| 10:47.35 | uio | humpled, Keep in mind that in Lubuntu the backlight WILL work... |
| 10:47.50 | uio | I have to hibernate and resume and voilà . |
| 10:47.54 | uio | In Lubuntu. |
| 10:47.59 | uio | So it should work in Debian too. |
| 10:48.19 | humpled | then look for an eepc wiki to see if they explain how they solved this problem |
| 10:48.42 | humpled | hibernating can be a bit of a hassle |
| 10:49.04 | humpled | could be as simple as poking an address somewhere in /sys |
| 10:49.33 | uio | I put the livo usb into hibernate, and resume gives a lit black screen. |
| 10:49.57 | humpled | so did the backlight work properly in the installer/syslinux/grub/framebuffer/anything ? |
| 10:50.21 | uio | Now it's just hanging. Hard reboot? |
| 10:50.23 | humpled | try switching to tty2 and back to the desktop |
| 10:50.43 | uio | nothing. |
| 10:50.48 | humpled | sometimes i get a black screen just when reopening the lid, |
| 10:50.53 | uio | Just blinking _ |
| 10:50.53 | humpled | grrr |
| 10:50.58 | humpled | oh |
| 10:51.11 | humpled | that probably means it hasn't resumed |
| 10:51.17 | uio | closed lid. Nothing |
| 10:51.37 | uio | hard shutdown? |
| 10:51.52 | uio | oh. It's off now. |
| 10:52.01 | uio | Without hard shutdown. |
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| 10:53.18 | uio | Weird thing is that the Debian 10 loading thing displays on boot after choosing live boot and then screen dies. |
| 10:55.39 | uio | Is this another feature? |
| 10:58.07 | uio | I guess I'll just keep Lubuntu or go to an OS that works like MX. |
| 11:00.45 | uio | How naive of me to think that this would be simple when I started a few hours ago. |
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| 11:01.51 | uio | How can I add acpi_backlight=vendor to the live os boot? |
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| 11:03.56 | humpled | press tab at the syslinux menu and add it to the end of line |
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| 11:06.33 | uio | [no, my keyboard is not QWERTY!] |
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| 11:08.32 | uio | humpled, Thanks. |
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| 11:10.55 | uio | And thank you Ubuntu for the solution https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight |
| 11:11.07 | uio | So adding is the solution. |
| 11:11.11 | uio | acpi_backlight=vendor |
| 11:11.44 | uio | I have backlight in live iso now. If I install Debian and add this line to boot, will it also work there? |
| 11:12.00 | humpled | yup |
| 11:12.17 | uio | Okay. Here goes. |
| 11:12.34 | humpled | i think you might press e in grub instead of tab |
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| 11:12.49 | humpled | after that you know how to add it /etc/default/grub ? |
| 11:12.50 | uio | Would it be best to use the graphical install or the other one? |
| 11:13.07 | uio | Keeping in mind the limited resources on this eeepc... |
| 11:13.42 | uio | humpled, I assume I just go to that file and copy&paste the line I just added? |
| 11:14.41 | uio | Is there any real advantage to Calamares? |
| 11:14.56 | humpled | we don't know yet |
| 11:15.03 | humpled | it's new |
| 11:15.04 | uio | Ah. |
| 11:15.16 | uio | I see, but the old one is perhaps faster? |
| 11:15.24 | humpled | the install from live used to be pretty unreliable, this is supposed to be better |
| 11:15.36 | humpled | i would pick install from the boot menu yes |
| 11:15.49 | uio | okay |
| 11:15.50 | humpled | graphical and text are pretty similar at that point |
| 11:16.17 | humpled | you add the option in the quotes here GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" |
| 11:16.34 | uio | A few months ago I spend like two days on this problem. To no avail. So three hours is nothing :) |
| 11:16.53 | uio | humpled, cool :) |
| 11:17.08 | humpled | so what kernel are you using after all? |
| 11:17.17 | uio | .19 I think? |
| 11:18.55 | humpled | what does uname -r say? |
| 11:18.58 | uio | I used luks on the lubuntu install. I will want to use the same key. Do I have to write over with zeros before installing Debian? |
| 11:19.16 | uio | I'm using the default in Buster : 4.19 I think. |
| 11:19.23 | uio | I'm in the installer now... |
| 11:19.30 | humpled | don't know anything about luks sorry |
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| 11:21.25 | uio | Okay. |
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| 11:33.18 | uio | Well, I'll just do the random data overwrite just in case. |
| 11:35.02 | astra | holy shit... 1488 |
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| 11:44.29 | frostschutz | uio, the passphrase you give and the encryption key are unrelated... you can always change the passphrase, and the key is just random (stored in luks header, unlocked by passphrase) |
| 11:44.48 | vampifrog | hi y'all, I'm having a problem on debian 10 with MATE desktop, if I leave the computer to sit for 10 minutes, the screen goes blank, but when I press a key nothing happens, the screen remains blank, and I have to press ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to a console, screen becomes active again, then alt+f7 to switch to X11, then I see a "screen is locked, please wait a few seconds" full screen, then after a few seconds I see the login box, i enter the |
| 11:44.49 | vampifrog | password and I get my desktop back |
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| 11:45.18 | vampifrog | any idea where I should look to avoid the first issue, which is the screen won't turn on after it turned of after idling? |
| 11:46.08 | uio | frostschutz, So writing over with random data is useless seeing as the old install was encrypted even if I use the same key? |
| 11:46.17 | uio | *same passphrase. |
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| 11:52.49 | uio | vampifrog, same issue here https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon-screensaver/issues/263? |
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| 11:53.50 | vampifrog | the way the issues are described, it's not the same bug |
| 11:53.57 | uio | how so? |
| 11:54.00 | vampifrog | as the guy still sees his mouse cursor, which means the monitor is on |
| 11:54.17 | vampifrog | my monitor is completely off, I have to press ctrl+alt+f1 to get it to turn on, then alt+f7 to return to X11 |
| 11:54.26 | uio | Sometimes when I lock screen and then try to unlock it, I press any key or move mouse, but password prompt does not appear - only mouse cursor appears on the screen. |
| 11:54.26 | uio | I can't log in. If I blindly type password, I do not login also. |
| 11:54.27 | uio | I can resolve this only by switching to text console |
| 11:54.42 | uio | same for you, no? |
| 11:54.44 | vampifrog | "only mouse cursor" |
| 11:54.45 | vampifrog | no |
| 11:54.52 | uio | oh |
| 11:54.57 | vampifrog | so after idling 10 minutes, screen goes blank, and unresponsive |
| 11:55.05 | uio | hmm |
| 11:55.52 | vampifrog | I'll set the screensaver to 5 minutes, and the power setting to 10 minutes and see what the difference is |
| 11:56.03 | vampifrog | see you in ~15 minutes |
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| 12:12.01 | mallxs | vampifrog: and the spacebar ? |
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| 12:17.41 | vampifrog | Ok, so the screensaver never even activates, even though I set it to 5 minutes, and after 10 minutes, the screen goes dark, I press keys, nothing happens, I press CTRL+ALT+F1, I see the console, I press ALT+F7, I see "This session is locked. You will be redirected to the unlock dialog in a few seconds" something like that |
| 12:17.49 | vampifrog | and after a few seconds the login screen |
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| 14:59.33 | SanchoPensa | hey guys! I am attempting to get a snake scope endoscope USB cam to work with my debian, so far I have tried vlc, webcamoid and cheese, but to no avail. Sinde I know, that v4l2 is pretty powerful, I wonder, whether there is a way to get this thang to output something? I know the resolution is 640x480@30 fps, 24 Bit RGB. Any suggestions, please? |
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| 15:01.28 | SanchoPensa | oh, and it is being recognized as a usb cam, there is a /dev/video1 device... |
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| 15:08.20 | SanchoPensa | also lsusb gives me a vendor and device code of 093a:2620 |
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| 15:09.59 | SanchoPensa | geez, is there a netsplit, or how the heck is it so silent in here? |
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| 15:15.40 | uio | SanchoPensa, I was kinda wondering the same thing. |
| 15:15.55 | SanchoPensa | uio: spooky, right? :D |
| 15:16.03 | uio | I think our accounts have been hacked and that everyone has added themselves to our /ignore list. |
| 15:16.22 | uio | SanchoPensa, I'm afraid... |
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| 15:17.08 | SanchoPensa | :D |
| 15:17.36 | uio | SanchoPensa, Check out #linux if you're lonely. |
| 15:18.12 | SanchoPensa | uio: no, not lonely, just trying to get a usb cam to work, that is something entirely else but lonely. :D |
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| 15:19.15 | uio | SanchoPensa, Existential lonelieness often has it's roots in usb loneliness. |
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| 15:21.08 | SanchoPensa | dude... :D in that case it will basically have it's roots in clogged drains, cos that is what I am trying to get the snake scope cam to work for. :D |
| 15:22.14 | vampifrog | SanchoPensa, open a terminal, type dmesg -w and plug and unplug the camera |
| 15:22.18 | vampifrog | or unplug and plug |
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| 15:22.24 | vampifrog | and see what messages you get |
| 15:22.48 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: will do, sec, pls |
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| 15:24.24 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: says the following: https://paste.debian.net/1098164/ |
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| 15:25.07 | vampifrog | is gspca the manufacturer of the camera? |
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| 15:26.08 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: appears to be, at least, that is, what the vendor code resolves to... |
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| 15:26.51 | vampifrog | pixart imaging |
| 15:27.10 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: lsusb says ID 093a:2620 Pixart Imaging, Inc. yes |
| 15:27.55 | vampifrog | well, i would expect some video4linux messages in dmesg |
| 15:28.11 | vampifrog | what is the product name |
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| 15:28.28 | vampifrog | first of all, does it work on another OS? |
| 15:28.34 | shtrb | SanchoPensa, there was video and render groups that you might need to be amember of |
| 15:28.58 | SanchoPensa | this is, what sudo lsusb -d 093a:2620 -v says: https://paste.debian.net/1098165/ |
| 15:29.24 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: yes, it used to work in windows, I do, however, not operate that OS any longer... |
| 15:29.29 | shtrb | Is gspca model loaded ? |
| 15:30.04 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: I am afraid, i don't understand the question? |
| 15:30.16 | shtrb | lsmod | grep gspca |
| 15:30.58 | SanchoPensa | seems to be loaded properly: https://paste.debian.net/1098166/ |
| 15:31.49 | shtrb | Is lib4l installed ? (dpkg --get-selections | grep libv4l ) |
| 15:32.20 | vampifrog | I don't need special groups to access the front webcam on my laptop, but you might try sudo cheese |
| 15:32.44 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: aye! https://paste.debian.net/1098167/ |
| 15:32.55 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: I'll give it a try, sec, pls |
| 15:33.23 | shtrb | you should install cheese to be able to run it (sudo apt-get install cheese) |
| 15:33.38 | vampifrog | I think he mentioned trying cheese already, shtrb |
| 15:34.22 | vampifrog | SanchoPensa, maybe there's a linux driver on the vendor's website |
| 15:34.29 | vampifrog | that's not in the kernel |
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| 15:34.42 | uio | I have a JBL speaker hooked up via AUX cord. Pressing the volume buttons on the speaker has no output on screen. How can I change this? |
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| 15:35.21 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: so, at least now cheese does not grey out the interface buttons any longer, I do not get any ouput, still... |
| 15:35.46 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: yes, I have tried vlc, cheese and webcamoid so far... |
| 15:35.56 | vampifrog | maybe sudo vlc |
| 15:36.04 | shtrb | archlinux.org says that at least in 2016 that cam can only work over USB-2 ports : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=199600 |
| 15:36.19 | SanchoPensa | ohhhh!!! :D |
| 15:36.25 | SanchoPensa | sec, I got such too! |
| 15:36.54 | vampifrog | try watching dmesg when launching cheese or vlc |
| 15:37.17 | shtrb | SanchoPensa, maybe something had changed in the last three years for that vendor |
| 15:37.33 | vampifrog | try a 2.0 port, who knows |
| 15:38.01 | SanchoPensa | gimme a sec, gentlemen, if you will, I am on it! |
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| 15:44.04 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: vampifrog: geez, I had somehow previously read out, whether it was USB3 and and it said so. Only I cannot recall, how tor ead tha out. :D |
| 15:44.11 | uio | SanchoPensa, There are almost certainly many non-males here. |
| 15:44.24 | vampifrog | SanchoPensa, looks like the driver was messed up, so you'd have to check if it was fixed since 2016, but since the symptoms are the same, I'll assume it hasn't, so you can either fix the kernel driver or use a windows VM |
| 15:44.50 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: how do you come to that conclusion? |
| 15:45.05 | vampifrog | the forum thread seems to suggest that |
| 15:45.25 | shtrb | Let's be optimistic , maybe it will work on usb2 if he has one |
| 15:45.30 | SanchoPensa | uio: in the about 20 yrs, that I have been frequenting this channel, I have had the pleasure of meeting exactly ONE women... :) |
| 15:45.32 | vampifrog | you don't know if the camera is usb2 or usb3? |
| 15:45.58 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: I know, I have one, but I dunno which one... |
| 15:46.01 | vampifrog | does it have the 5 extra pins on the connector? |
| 15:46.19 | shtrb | It's time to choose the brute force approach and check each one of them :D |
| 15:46.28 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: cam is usb2, I do not know, which of my ports is USB 2 |
| 15:46.38 | vampifrog | usb2 port should be a different color |
| 15:46.42 | vampifrog | black or at least not blue |
| 15:46.44 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: yeah, I was waiting for you to say something like that. :D |
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| 15:46.59 | uio | SanchoPensa, There are probably a few hundred people connected at this time. I'm sure there is more than one women. |
| 15:47.02 | SanchoPensa | errr... my whole thinkpad is black...? |
| 15:47.13 | shtrb | you can also use an old orangepi+usbip to deliver usb over ip (because they had USB ports) |
| 15:47.16 | SanchoPensa | uio: do a survey, then! :D |
| 15:47.18 | vampifrog | oh, fellow thinkpad user |
| 15:47.33 | uio | SanchoPensa, Why not just not assume you know everyone's gender? |
| 15:47.36 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: what else! :D |
| 15:47.37 | shtrb | thinkpad users assemble ! |
| 15:47.46 | SanchoPensa | :D |
| 15:48.04 | vampifrog | so if you look at the usb port from below, it should have 5 pads on the tongue thing |
| 15:48.09 | vampifrog | if it doesn't, it's usb2 |
| 15:48.12 | uio | This creates a very 'boys' club' environment. |
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| 15:48.34 | shtrb | wtf is a tongue in a usb port ? |
| 15:48.59 | vampifrog | the tongue is the thing in the middle, that's not the metal around t |
| 15:49.01 | vampifrog | it* |
| 15:49.22 | shtrb | uio, that is IT and linux world , there are no women or man there are Debian users, there are Windows users and then there console users |
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| 15:50.11 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: while I must admit, that I do find linux using women extraordinarily sexy! |
| 15:50.26 | SanchoPensa | and vampifrog has just outet himself as being german |
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| 15:50.56 | shtrb | Don't use that word, you could be banned from some communities for it. |
| 15:51.03 | uio | shtrb, Sorry, I don't understand your last comment... |
| 15:51.12 | vampifrog | this is off-topic, gentlemen |
| 15:51.32 | vampifrog | let's focus on the tongue part of the USB ports |
| 15:51.40 | shtrb | uio , it was a pun that in the linux world we are all genderless , and what cause controversy is the dist we use |
| 15:52.01 | uio | vampifrog, and women and others...?? |
| 15:52.08 | uio | vampifrog, Or just the males? |
| 15:52.21 | vampifrog | uio, try #debian-offtopic please |
| 15:52.47 | uio | vampifrog, Try https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity. This is very on topic. |
| 15:52.55 | uio | vampifrog, And important. |
| 15:53.20 | SanchoPensa | ok, "guys", I have now triad all USB ports, each does detect the cam properly, it works on none, though. I really dom't say that very frequently, but I hereby give in. |
| 15:53.26 | vampifrog | SanchoPensa, https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/usb-2.0-vs-usb-3.0-blue-port.jpg.pagespeed.ce.gs29fxmSrp.jpg |
| 15:53.32 | shtrb | uio , it has nothing to do with diversity, you are derailing the interaction into subjects which are not the important part. |
| 15:53.44 | vampifrog | SanchoPensa, the usb3 port has 5 little indents do you see them? |
| 15:53.48 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: which word? german, or sexy? :D |
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| 15:54.13 | shtrb | the latter |
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| 15:55.38 | vampifrog | maybe try an usb2 hub, sacho |
| 15:55.39 | vampifrog | sancho* |
| 15:55.53 | vampifrog | but it does seem that the driver never worked properly |
| 15:56.00 | uio | shtrb, vampifrog SanchoPensa As https://www.debian.org/intro/diversity would suggest, diversity is an issue within the Debian community. Male-centred language like 'gentlemen', 'guys' and so on only aggravates it. I'm just asking that you consider using easy alternatives like 'people'. If that is a real problem for you I suggest that you contact Debian about their diveristy policy and their policiec on including non-males. |
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| 15:56.23 | vampifrog | you can run a windows VM inside your linux, just for the camera |
| 15:56.40 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: I don't, i just googled my laptops specs, though... |
| 15:56.42 | shtrb | uio ,you had passed the line already you are harresing people now. |
| 15:57.22 | uio | shtrb, If that's your opinion then contact an OP. I think it's very important to address each time. |
| 15:58.02 | vampifrog | which model is it sancho |
| 15:58.39 | SanchoPensa | I do however concur with shtrb. I believe, that we are being policed sufficiently in real life, and I really see no need to be policed about gender policies. |
| 15:58.43 | SanchoPensa | none at all. |
| 15:58.50 | shtrb | You are the person who is harresing here. as guided by many convention and in debian communities , it is important to present to the person who is harressing other his wrong doing to prevent such. If you like you can take that to other channels or to PMs. |
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| 15:59.38 | SanchoPensa | I am not a feminist. I do, however still appreciate, respect and treat women equally in real life. |
| 15:59.41 | uio | shtrb, *his/her |
| 16:00.03 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: E540, the version with the core i7 and the 16 GB ram... |
| 16:00.09 | uio | shtrb, No, this is a real issue. I'm pointing out the issue. That is not harrassing. If you disagree go see an OP. |
| 16:00.42 | SanchoPensa | uio: what for woult he go see an OP? Because we agree to disagree? |
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| 16:00.52 | uio | It's important that the main channel see this kind of discussion on language too. Otherwise it's just a 'minor' thing. |
| 16:01.32 | SanchoPensa | this is basically not a discussion at all. it is a stating of OPINIONS. it is a good thing, that everybody is entitled to have one. |
| 16:01.42 | shtrb | uio , your actions are considered as harassment and unwlecoming . choose your battles and battle grounds. You are assumption on a specific linguistic choice and social norms on others. take that into another area |
| 16:01.43 | uio | SanchoPensa, 'Harrassing' is strong. It they feel that way then they should see an OP. Otherwise leave it be. |
| 16:01.54 | uio | shtrb, Considered that way by you. |
| 16:02.06 | SanchoPensa | yet still, with opinions it is like with penises. it is good to have one, et still you need not wave it in peoples faces, right? |
| 16:02.23 | vampifrog | they call it a small business laptop but it's huge |
| 16:02.29 | shtrb | uio , if we had been in a conference I would already had been contacting the person to prevent harrsement . stop with that. |
| 16:02.41 | SanchoPensa | vampifrog: i love it! what's your ride? |
| 16:02.41 | uio | shtrb, Then contact an op. |
| 16:02.48 | shtrb | facepalm |
| 16:03.10 | SanchoPensa | :D |
| 16:03.16 | uio | shtrb, Otherwise just think a bit about language. Not that hard to not assume everyone is a man here. |
| 16:03.29 | SanchoPensa | pads shtrb on the back... |
| 16:03.42 | SanchoPensa | uio: FIND ONE WOMAN, PLEASE! |
| 16:03.51 | shtrb | uio, just stop. period . close the subject. |
| 16:04.16 | uio | SanchoPensa, Just don't assume. That's all. The onus is on the person who uses male-centred language to know that it is accurate. |
| 16:04.30 | uio | shtrb, If you think I should stop get an OP. |
| 16:04.37 | SanchoPensa | uio: I was talking to shtrb and to vampifrog. none of wich has turned out a woman. so, what harm was done exactly? |
| 16:04.38 | shtrb | !ops |
| 16:04.39 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 16:07.57 | gZen0n | Hi, I have an issue in my debian VM. I just made an upgrade but it ends with an error with mariadb-server |
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| 16:07.59 | gZen0n | https://paste.debian.net/1098172/ |
| 16:09.02 | vampifrog | gZen0n, first make sure to backup your /var/lib/mysql folder |
| 16:09.26 | gZen0n | vampifrog i don't care about my tables and config |
| 16:09.53 | vampifrog | gZen0n, then uninstall fully mariadb with --purge and try reinstalling it without a version number, just mariadb-server |
| 16:10.04 | gZen0n | i did an apt remove --purge mariadb-server mariadb-server-10.1 |
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| 16:10.10 | gZen0n | then install |
| 16:10.14 | gZen0n | but same problem |
| 16:10.23 | vampifrog | then I'm stumped, sorry |
| 16:11.14 | gZen0n | btw, the error occured during an upgrade that caused the virtual disk was full |
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| 16:11.48 | gZen0n | the root directory had no more space available, so i fixed it but error still occured |
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| 16:13.22 | p_quarles | gZen0n: have you tried: dpkg --configure mariadb-server-10.1 ? Not sure that will help, but that would be my next attempt |
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| 16:14.08 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: vampifrog, uio thanks for you help, PEOPLE, much appreciated. |
| 16:14.19 | vampifrog | np man |
| 16:14.24 | SanchoPensa | :D |
| 16:14.48 | shtrb | Did you find somehting ? |
| 16:15.10 | gZen0n | vampifrog yes, thanks |
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| 16:15.43 | shtrb | At worst you can try a pi (they are usb2 if I remember correctly ) and usbip to transfer data to your laptop (that is how I used to transfer dangerous usb applience ) |
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| 16:16.44 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: interesting. how did you know, I do as a matter offact have Pis? :D |
| 16:16.49 | gZen0n | p_quarles nothing more or less |
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| 16:16.56 | gZen0n | same message |
| 16:17.07 | shtrb | SanchoPensa, because pi's are the swisskinfe of IT |
| 16:17.24 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: and smart homes! :D |
| 16:17.52 | shtrb | sorry , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Army_knife |
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| 16:25.37 | gZen0n | ok i fixed my issue by doing apt remove --purge mariadb* |
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| 16:25.41 | gZen0n | then reinstall |
| 16:25.47 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: https://imagebin.ca/v/4tQ5Te44FAot |
| 16:26.08 | SanchoPensa | tha one? ;) |
| 16:27.10 | gZen0n | thanks for helping |
| 16:27.15 | shtrb | That is the idea, it's a very good tool. But the one in your image does not have the swiss sign so it is not exactly the same , your image is like the orangepi - it's good but not that good :) |
| 16:28.03 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: hahaha! that's because it is on the other side, bro. |
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| 16:28.23 | shtrb | thanks ! |
| 16:29.15 | SanchoPensa | it is a genuine victorinox. And yes, should they ever drop me naked over the Antarctica, I will prolly have it on me, otherwise, I do prefer real tools. |
| 16:29.42 | SanchoPensa | shtrb: gotta run, thanks once more, and cya around next time! |
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| 16:29.55 | shtrb | cya, and have fun. good luck with the cam |
| 16:30.22 | SanchoPensa | yeah, I dropped the cam project, I am not that desperate... :D You too have phun! |
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| 16:32.13 | uio | How can I update grub with changes? |
| 16:32.28 | Primer | update-grub |
| 16:33.01 | uio | I added acpi_backlight=vendor. |
| 16:33.06 | uio | Primer, Command not found. |
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| 16:33.18 | Primer | uio: sudo |
| 16:33.51 | Primer | then you can inspect /boot/grub/grub.cfg to make sure it took |
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| 16:33.59 | Primer | You _did_ update /etc/default/grub, yes? |
| 16:35.00 | uio | Primer, I did that in # and it still gives error. |
| 16:35.10 | uio | I did upadate that file, yes. |
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| 16:35.23 | uio | also, adduser command is not found. |
| 16:35.29 | uio | Maybe corrupt install?? |
| 16:35.32 | uio | Sigh. |
| 16:35.46 | Primer | no, if became root, you didn't use -i |
| 16:35.53 | Primer | which means /sbin is not in your path |
| 16:36.07 | uio | Okay, so what should I do... |
| 16:36.14 | Primer | I, for example, just maintain a root shell. |
| 16:36.15 | Primer | bash -l |
| 16:36.33 | Primer | presuming you do the same. That should suffice, if you're already root |
| 16:36.37 | Primer | but didn't use sudo -i |
| 16:37.06 | Primer | But since I dont know exactly what you did...hard to tell |
| 16:37.16 | uio | so # update-grub gives: bash: update-grub : commande introuvable |
| 16:37.35 | Primer | Do you know what PATH is? |
| 16:37.43 | Primer | As root, you get /sbin, as a user, you don't |
| 16:37.51 | shtrb | in debian we do sudo -s or su - |
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| 16:38.15 | Primer | These programs are meant to be run as root, which mean you should have /sbin in your PATH |
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| 16:38.38 | uio | Sorry I'm lost. Let's start over. I changed /etc/default/grub. How can apply changes. |
| 16:38.47 | Primer | sudo upgrade-grub |
| 16:38.56 | shtrb | sudo /sbin/update-grub |
| 16:39.07 | Primer | or that, if your PATH fails you |
| 16:39.18 | uio | My user is not in the list of sudoers. |
| 16:39.24 | uio | What should I do? |
| 16:39.27 | Primer | But doing that means something else is amiss, as the first command should work |
| 16:40.24 | uio | Fresh install. |
| 16:40.31 | uio | Don't know what could be wrong. |
| 16:40.34 | shtrb | uio, if you are not a sudoer you should contact your admin and configure the system |
| 16:40.49 | humpled | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.50 | LtL | uio: sudo adduser usename sudo # sudo needs to be installed, or as root use 'visudo' |
| 16:40.51 | uio | shtrb, I contacted them. |
| 16:40.52 | Primer | uio: you didn't become root with its environment, i.e. su -i or sudo -i |
| 16:41.14 | LtL | uio: as root rather, sorry. |
| 16:41.22 | Primer | err su -, tha tis |
| 16:41.37 | Primer | LtL: hello, long time |
| 16:41.54 | LtL | Primer: hiya Primer :) |
| 16:43.35 | uio | I did # adduser <me< |
| 16:43.39 | uio | oops |
| 16:43.48 | uio | I did # adduser <me> sudo. |
| 16:43.57 | Primer | the # implies you are already root |
| 16:44.00 | Primer | just run bash -l |
| 16:44.08 | shtrb | I hope you didn't add the # in the command (a # mean comment) |
| 16:44.09 | Primer | and you'll get root's environment |
| 16:44.13 | uio | And got: bash: adduser : commande introuvable |
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| 16:44.22 | Primer | uio: bash -l, as root |
| 16:44.27 | uio | # as in I'm in root. |
| 16:44.29 | Primer | -l == login |
| 16:44.33 | Primer | sigh |
| 16:44.37 | Primer | just try it? |
| 16:44.58 | Primer | Yes, you have a shell, but that shell lacks the env. bash -l will run a new one WITH the env |
| 16:45.07 | Primer | and all of those command not found go away |
| 16:45.16 | uio | Primer, Sorry about that. I did bash -l and then update-grub and we're good :) |
| 16:45.24 | Primer | see? |
| 16:45.27 | Primer | and adduser too? |
| 16:45.28 | uio | Thanks, sorry. |
| 16:45.29 | uio | yep. |
| 16:45.33 | Primer | there you go |
| 16:45.34 | uio | What was the issue though? |
| 16:45.39 | uio | why bash -l? |
| 16:45.58 | Primer | whatever you did to become root, did NOT run the login |
| 16:46.12 | Primer | so yes, you got a shell, but not a LOGIN shell |
| 16:46.15 | uio | Primer, I did "su" |
| 16:46.18 | Primer | So your PATH was never set |
| 16:46.25 | Primer | next time do "su -" |
| 16:46.28 | shtrb | uio , in debian to move to root you need to do su - |
| 16:46.35 | shtrb | or sudo -s |
| 16:46.38 | uio | shtrb, Is this new? |
| 16:46.44 | Primer | prefers sudo -i |
| 16:46.46 | shtrb | not really |
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| 16:46.47 | uio | Don't remember it from 9 |
| 16:46.52 | Primer | uio: no, this is Linux 101 |
| 16:47.07 | uio | Primer, Thanks for the primer. |
| 16:47.09 | LtL | uio: # adduser usename sudo then logout of session, login. adduser is in /usr/sbin/adduser become root with 'su -' its in buster release notes, and the other ways will work also. |
| 16:47.10 | shtrb | *Gnu/Linux :P |
| 16:47.11 | uio | :p |
| 16:47.32 | Primer | shtrb: haha ok RMS :) |
| 16:47.46 | Cyb0ti | hey all, when i transfer videos from my android they become flipped 90 degrees. I know that "Some videos, such as from iPhones, are not physically flipped, but contain video stream displaymatrix side data or rotate metadata." How can I adjust the config in debian to stop using these metadata when transfering? I should mention that I use ES Explorer to transfer the files...just in case it has something to do with it |
| 16:48.00 | shtrb | tips fedora (hat hat nothing else) |
| 16:48.09 | Primer | Cyb0ti: ffmpeg can likely remove the metadat |
| 16:48.12 | Primer | a |
| 16:48.17 | Cyb0ti | I usally remedy the videos with ffmpeg -i input.mp4 |
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| 16:48.21 | uio | shtrb, You should be wearing a debian!! |
| 16:48.35 | Primer | Cyb0ti: sounds like you have it figured out already! |
| 16:48.46 | shtrb | If I will a community, my envoirment would be very confused . |
| 16:48.57 | Primer | Cyb0ti: what program? I think VLC has a setting for this |
| 16:49.08 | shtrb | Debian, is a connection of two names Debra and Ian |
| 16:49.36 | Cyb0ti | Primer: but i never used to do that before.... it started after updating ffmpeg and codecs a while back |
| 16:50.00 | shtrb | Cyb0ti, If I remember correctly the data is stored in the same way you transfer it. the phone is the one who flips stuff up |
| 16:50.08 | Cyb0ti | Primer: on my phone i use ES Explorer to transfer vids to deb |
| 16:50.09 | Primer | Cyb0ti: This will likely be a factor of whatever program you're using to watch said videos |
| 16:50.30 | Primer | Cyb0ti: that program is reading the video metadata and doing the rotation. You just need to tell that program to stop doing that |
| 16:50.46 | Cyb0ti | Primer: i suspected that thanks |
| 16:50.58 | Primer | So...what program? |
| 16:51.05 | Primer | Curious now |
| 16:51.05 | Cyb0ti | ES Explorer |
| 16:51.11 | Primer | that's not a Debian program |
| 16:51.17 | Cyb0ti | not a deb app, its an Android app |
| 16:51.20 | Primer | I meant what program are you using to _watch_ the videos |
| 16:51.25 | shtrb | How are you accessing debian via ES Explorer ?! |
| 16:51.26 | Primer | yes, I know |
| 16:51.26 | Cyb0ti | vlc |
| 16:51.34 | Primer | yeah, then check vlc's settings |
| 16:51.55 | Cyb0ti | but i can see the file has already been rotated before watching, so that phone app is doing it |
| 16:52.06 | Primer | no, your camera app is doing that |
| 16:52.24 | Cyb0ti | shtrb: samba |
| 16:53.22 | Cyb0ti | Primer: the camera does inject the metadata, but some apps respect it while some dont... I dont want to respect it... |
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| 16:54.12 | uio | Also, I just installed Buster XFCE from live, but there is no panel... |
| 16:54.16 | uio | How can I fix this? |
| 16:54.34 | shtrb | You shuold never install stuff from live , use debian-installer instead. |
| 16:54.54 | uio | shtrb, I used a live usb, but chose the non-graphical installer. |
| 16:55.02 | Primer | Speaking of live, anyone have a grub entry that boots the live iso from a had drive? |
| 16:55.15 | uio | shtrb, And now there is that new installer Calalalalmaers somethingerother.... |
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| 16:56.01 | warsoul | anybody knows about a shell or vps provider? |
| 16:56.04 | shtrb | uio , it does not matter if you had used a live cd or a live usb. you should be using debian-installer to do so. as live had some issue in the past (and If I remember correctly installation form live is experiminetal state) |
| 16:56.32 | uio | shtrb, So the install is garbage? |
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| 16:56.36 | uio | Sigh. |
| 16:56.37 | shtrb | you can start a panel via xfce4-pannel |
| 16:56.43 | uio | I really don't have time for this shit. |
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| 16:56.49 | shtrb | no, it is not garbage , it is experimental (from my memory) |
| 16:56.51 | uio | I've spent all day trying to do this install. |
| 16:56.58 | shtrb | uio . again language |
| 16:57.25 | uio | xfce4-panel just gives a grey square... |
| 16:57.36 | uio | shtrb, Language on 'shit'? |
| 16:58.00 | uio | I brought that up before and got kicked out, so I'll just use foul lanugage now. If you can't beat 'em join em. |
| 16:58.01 | shtrb | yes, and how you describe the work of others. |
| 16:58.33 | uio | Well, I quite frankly think that that work is garbage. |
| 16:58.44 | shtrb | anyhow try loggin off without saving the session and login in back, it could solve your issue (if you had corrupted the session somehow ) |
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| 16:58.53 | uio | I even had to modify grub to get a display and now I have no panels. |
| 16:59.40 | uio | shtrb, There were not panels in the last boot where I changed the grub settings. |
| 17:00.02 | shtrb | That sound very strange to me that you had to touch grub to get a display (unless you had a propietery drivers or nvidia card ) |
| 17:00.15 | uio | shtrb, It's a eeepc Asus flame. |
| 17:00.26 | shtrb | grub settings should not affect xfce4 |
| 17:00.42 | uio | Old hardware I guess. I'm told. I've spent about two full days on that alone. |
| 17:00.45 | shtrb | can you plase create a brand new user and try doing login into it please ? |
| 17:00.50 | uio | A few months ago and now this. |
| 17:00.55 | uio | shtrb, Sure. |
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| 17:01.49 | shtrb | I think the best option for you is to perform an install from a debian-installer and not a live. If that device is too old I do not know how well it is still supported (as I have no idea how much memory and swap you have in your system) |
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| 17:03.17 | uio | shtrb, Yeah. Probs best. I'm kinda frustrated though. Been at it for hours. Started 8 hours ago and the disk wipe was long. Sigh. Thanks though shtrb. |
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| 17:04.41 | shtrb | You are welcome you can try doing it again, maybe contact the local LUG for more assitance |
| 17:05.12 | uio | shtrb, Cool. I'm giving the regular iso a whirl. |
| 17:05.43 | shtrb | make sure you take the standard installer and not live. also check your local LUG just in case |
| 17:06.01 | humpled | i thought it was working this morning |
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| 17:06.50 | humpled | standard installer on the live cd works for me, it seems exactly the same |
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| 17:35.14 | shtrb | is it seen in lsusb ? |
| 17:35.20 | shtrb | or iwlist ? |
| 17:35.26 | dmar198 | not sure, let me check |
| 17:35.44 | dmar198 | yes, it's in lsusb |
| 17:36.39 | dmar198 | I think you've solved my problem, thank you shtrb |
| 17:36.50 | shtrb | !next |
| 17:36.50 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 17:37.19 | dmar198 | the name in lsusb is different from the name on the package, and there is information online regarding drivers for the dongle if I use the name given in lsusb |
| 17:37.55 | shtrb | I think you need to check usb-modemswitch and modemmanger too |
| 17:38.17 | dmar198 | ok lemme do that |
| 17:38.38 | shtrb | sorry usb-modeswitch |
| 17:38.57 | dmar198 | bash: usb-modeswitch: command not found |
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| 17:40.10 | shtrb | you should read it's documentation (and install it too (sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch) |
| 17:40.38 | dmar198 | thanks shtrb |
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| 18:19.16 | phr34k | hey! I have a small question, I accidentially "installed" a .deb file that was for the wrong architechture. |
| 18:19.56 | phr34k | Now I'm getting unmet dependency issue, how can i undo my fuckup? |
| 18:20.35 | shtrb | dpkg --purge name |
| 18:20.35 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up name all over shtrb and akaWolf... |
| 18:20.48 | shtrb | phr34k , dpkg --purge name |
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| 18:24.17 | phr34k | shtrb hmm maybe I'm doing something wrong but can't seem to get it to work |
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| 18:26.12 | phr34k | wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb; sudo apt install ./google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb; |
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| 18:26.54 | phr34k | this is what i did before on raspberry pi- but it doesn't look like purge is finding the chrome package to uninstall/remove |
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| 18:27.03 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up google-chrome-stable_current_amd64 all over shtrb and idle_... |
| 18:27.12 | shtrb | phr34k , dpkg --purge google-chrome-stable_current_amd64 |
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| 18:43.57 | sunzero | what other is need by Standard 224-color Linux logo for boot linux logo, in graphic section or console/section in custom build kernel, becouse all three options are selected and kernel is compiled but not shows the bootup logo:) |
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| 19:03.38 | Lisa101 | Hello yall, anyone can kindly guide me on how to get xrdp to work with KDE using on debian stretch. I am uncertain how to edit the .ini file, do I need to change the port? |
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| 19:09.47 | Lisa101 | anyone alive here? |
| 19:09.58 | Lisa101 | lol |
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| 19:45.08 | sunzero | is away: (spanking that fucking foot ) [BX-MsgLog Off] |
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| 19:50.03 | ZenWalker | hi all |
| 19:50.19 | ZenWalker | wich package installs the command "dpkg-buildpackage" ? |
| 19:55.30 | Habbie | ZenWalker, dpkg-dev: /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 19:55.58 | Habbie | ZenWalker, that's output from 'dpkg -S dpkg-buildpackage' (on my system, which has it installed) or 'apt-file search buildpackage' (which also works if you don't have it installed yet) |
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| 19:57.55 | lancap | I see bluetooth in dmesg and lsusb, but not in hcitool dev, nor bluetoothctl. |
| 19:58.39 | lancap | Anyone else here get bluetooth to work on debian + librem 13? |
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| 20:06.19 | trek00 | hello, when rebuilding a kernel packge, how to set a custom version to have it co-installed with the official debian kernel? |
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| 20:06.42 | trek00 | is it simple as changing the .config version? |
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| 20:11.28 | karlpinc | trek00: There's a kernel handbook that talks all about building a custom kernel at debian.org. |
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| 20:12.06 | ZenWalker | Habbie: thanks! |
| 20:12.42 | karlpinc | trek00: You can install different kernels at the same time. |
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| 20:20.21 | Habbie | ZenWalker, also, https://packages.debian.org has content search :) |
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| 20:24.20 | trek00 | karlpinc: thanks, i'll search on it :) |
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| 20:31.14 | Gerowen | Anybody got any ideas? Posted a question I had here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=143488 |
| 20:34.16 | Habbie | Gerowen, i don't have ideas but i have a few thoughts that may or may not help |
| 20:34.41 | Habbie | Gerowen, one, it's unlikely that Gnome can cause such a hardware lockup, or, rephrased, if Gnome can cause such a lockup, it's a bug in a different component - the X server, the kernel, some driver, some hardware |
| 20:34.42 | karlpinc | Gerowen: Look in the logs. The X log and the system messages at least. |
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| 20:35.12 | karlpinc | Gerowen: Run memtest86+. Do it overnight so that things have time to come up to temperature. |
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| 20:35.24 | Habbie | Gerowen, two, audio repeating on a crash is normal behaviour for audio hardware; there's a circular buffer that the software is supposed to 'fill up' periodically - if that doesn't happen, the sound hardware will just repeat what is there |
| 20:35.44 | Habbie | Gerowen, so this tells you that the audio driver (which lives in the kernel) has likely died, perhaps along with most of the rest of the kernel |
| 20:36.23 | Gerowen | I would blame Wayland since Buster defaults to that and I left it at that, but the other 3 desktops are all using Wayland as well with no similar issues. |
| 20:36.30 | Habbie | Gerowen, because if it's just gnome or X that crashes, the audio driver should still notice that whatever plays youtube has stopped feeding it audio, and it should stop playing that buffer |
| 20:36.34 | Gerowen | Habbie: I'll poke through the logs for any errors related to audio. |
| 20:36.49 | Habbie | Gerowen, well my point is that the audio repeating is likely just a symptom of the real problem |
| 20:36.50 | karlpinc | Gerowen: Perhaps look at /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian and consider turning on persistant logging. |
| 20:37.07 | Habbie | i'm also pretty close to turning on network logging to debug some crashes on my debian |
| 20:37.28 | karlpinc | thinks syslog rocks |
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| 20:42.32 | Gerowen | The only thing is that sometimes I can sit here and watch videos for an hour or two straight and not have the first problem, and sometimes it happens pretty quickly, I haven't been able to nail down any specific behavior on my part that triggers it other than it usually happens when I'm watching YouTube in Firefox, but I can't really predict when it might happen. I'll check out the option for persistent logging because I've checked /var/log/syslog |
| 20:42.32 | Gerowen | immediately after rebooting and, maybe it's because I'm not certain exactly what to look for, but nothing has just leapt out at me as being suspicious. |
| 20:43.38 | Habbie | Gerowen, so another only mildly useful thought, many software bugs are 'random' |
| 20:43.56 | Habbie | Gerowen, two things happening together that tend to miss eachother the first 100 times, or 50 times, or 1000 times |
| 20:44.04 | karlpinc | Gerowen: I'm feeling like it's hardware. |
| 20:44.20 | Habbie | i also feel that way, to be clear |
| 20:44.26 | Habbie | but it's not certain |
| 20:44.41 | Gerowen | Could be. I actually returned one of these laptops because of it, restored the factory Windows image, but it happens on this one too. |
| 20:44.46 | karlpinc | Gerowen: You can also setup a serial console and logging thereon. That's the best way to capture crash data. |
| 20:44.57 | Habbie | indeed |
| 20:45.12 | karlpinc | Gerowen: memtest86+ can catch ram problems, which is most likely. |
| 20:45.14 | Habbie | when i mentioned 'network logging to debug a crash on my debian' i did mean the kernel's ability to network log |
| 20:45.20 | Habbie | memtest would be a very good first step here |
| 20:45.29 | Habbie | memory failures can also manifest 'randomly' |
| 20:45.35 | Gerowen | I'll do that, when I go to bed tonight I'll just leave it running. |
| 20:45.37 | karlpinc | Habbie: I'm not up on kernel logging. |
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| 20:48.42 | trek00 | Gerowen: may be disable hardware acceleration on firefox |
| 20:50.39 | Habbie | karlpinc, me neither, i just received a few hints |
| 20:51.06 | Gerowen | trek00: I'll give that a shot, but I'll still run memtest86+ tonight just to make sure. |
| 20:51.30 | trek00 | Gerowen: it could be a problem with amdgpu driver |
| 20:54.12 | karlpinc | Gerowen: (Don't forget the X logs -- just in case.) Can you ssh to the box after it has frozen? Can you ping it? |
| 20:54.52 | trek00 | i have encountered tons of these video freeze, but with sound/keyboard running |
| 20:55.16 | Gerowen | karlpinc: Ya know, I never thought about that. It's a laptop so I've never fooled with installing openssh-server. |
| 20:55.19 | karlpinc | trek00: But is it just video freezing or the whole box? |
| 20:55.21 | trek00 | you could even unload and reload the video driver module to regain control |
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| 20:55.53 | Gerowen | karlpinc: I've disabled hardware acceleration in Firefox so I'll see how that goes for now, but if it happens again, I'll install openssh-server and then see if the device can be accessed over the network next time it happens. |
| 20:56.13 | karlpinc | Gerowen: If it does not ping, that's informative. :) |
| 20:56.26 | trek00 | karlpinc: reading the forum post it said: "Sometimes [..] the audio will continue playing normally" and "I can turn Num Lock on/off" |
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| 20:57.29 | karlpinc | trek00: Yes, but audio can continue in audio hardware after a kernel freeze. I don't know what drives the numlock light, is it the kernel? |
| 20:57.49 | karlpinc | trek00: Or is it firmware in the keyboard? |
| 20:57.54 | trek00 | usually you can: ctrl-alt-f2 and then blidly typing for login, disable vt binding, unload module and reload, hoping to not mistyping something |
| 20:58.19 | Habbie | karlpinc, pre-usb, it was keyboard firmware always - after that, i don't know |
| 20:58.35 | Gerowen | trek00: So CTRL+ALT+F2 might actually work, even though I can't see it? That's an interesting thought as well. |
| 20:58.46 | karlpinc | Habbie: My brain gets stale like that. |
| 20:58.50 | trek00 | Gerowen: if it's a video driver problem, yes |
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| 20:59.29 | Habbie | karlpinc, i know that feeling |
| 20:59.48 | Habbie | karlpinc, i remember when the light could get out of sync with the OS state for it |
| 20:59.57 | Gerowen | I've thought about just pulling in all the system updates available in backports, since this is new-ish hardware. I've had issues in the past where some random hardware issue was resolved by upgrading to a newer kernel. |
| 21:00.28 | trek00 | karlpinc: the numlock on/off is setup by the keyboard controller inside your motherboard, by the operating system or bios (for DOS) |
| 21:01.50 | karlpinc | trek00: Does the keyboard controller need an interrupt? |
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| 21:02.47 | trek00 | karlpinc: the chipset is the one who make the keyboard interrupt |
| 21:02.56 | trek00 | i8042 |
| 21:03.17 | karlpinc | Gerowen: You could try a newer kernel. I'd avoid installing lots-o-backports. |
| 21:03.43 | trek00 | karlpinc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_controller_(computing) |
| 21:04.03 | karlpinc | trek00: So the interrupt handlers are still working. Sounds like there's hope for ssh-ing in and doing some diagnostics. |
| 21:04.21 | Habbie | -some- interrupt handlers are still working |
| 21:04.26 | Habbie | the audio interrupt handler has died apparently |
| 21:04.29 | trek00 | karlpinc: judging the symptoms it seems sshable :) |
| 21:06.05 | trek00 | Habbie: if the sound comes from video playing, the player is out of sync with video and should crash |
| 21:06.42 | Habbie | trek00, that's all pretty true assuming the player is still running and the audio driver in the kernel is still running |
| 21:06.51 | Habbie | trek00, repeating audio indicates that none of that is true |
| 21:07.27 | trek00 | Habbie: we'll see on the next reboot :) |
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| 21:09.09 | trek00 | Gerowen: please see more videos on youtube to trigger a crash :) |
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| 21:10.48 | Gerowen | trek00: I disabled hardware acceleration and I'm gonna play around with that and see if that fixes it. |
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| 21:10.58 | Gerowen | If it does, then I know it's GPU hardware related. |
| 21:11.01 | Gerowen | doesn't* |
| 21:11.17 | Gerowen | If it still happens, I'll know it's something else. |
| 21:11.31 | Habbie | 'gpu hardware related' could still be a 'gpu driver' bug etc. |
| 21:11.40 | Gerowen | In which case I'll install openssh-server and try to trigger it again and see if it responds to network requests. |
| 21:11.42 | Habbie | but small changes and a lot of patience will narrow the issue down |
| 21:11.52 | trek00 | yes, this only check for a particular family of driver bugs |
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| 21:13.04 | Gerowen | Yep, you guys have given me some ideas, so I'll start doing one thing at a time and run it for a while and collect data. |
| 21:13.10 | Habbie | very good |
| 21:13.12 | Habbie | good luck! |
| 21:13.40 | raidghost | Habbie: any advice for where i can count numbers of dvb-tuners in ubuntu? |
| 21:14.01 | Habbie | raidghost, uh, not immediately no |
| 21:14.45 | raidghost | somewhere in a directory there was listed dvb devices |
| 21:15.52 | trek00 | raidghost: if you know the package you can dpkg -L |
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| 21:19.15 | raidghost | trek00: it was more there is a directory |
| 21:19.31 | raidghost | where dvb amount of tuners show up |
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| 21:21.27 | porton | Which folder to put Debian specific installation scripts for a package? |
| 21:22.23 | porton | I can't put it into debian/, because this folder is not installed |
| 21:22.49 | karlpinc | !package basics |
| 21:22.50 | dpkg | "Basics of the Debian package management system" is a chapter of the Debian GNU/Linux <FAQ>, which describes the Debian package format. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics . To create your own Debian packages, ask me about <nmg>. |
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| 21:23.39 | porton | karlpinc: I have already created the package. But now I want to create a script which would automate creating of config files based on user's input. Where to put the script? |
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| 21:24.12 | trek00 | porton: if you have created the package, you should have a debian directory |
| 21:24.23 | karlpinc | porton: I imagine it could go in the debian folder. That _is installed. It could be run by dpkg-reconfigure. |
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| 21:25.04 | karlpinc | !packaging |
| 21:25.04 | dpkg | See http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers for information on how to package for Debian. Also ask me about <nmg> <package basics> <policy> <mentors> and <best practices>. |
| 21:25.10 | karlpinc | !mentors |
| 21:25.11 | dpkg | mentors is probably the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 21:25.45 | porton | `ls /usr/share/our_oidc/debian` says "cannot access '/usr/share/our_oidc/debian': No such file or directory". It looks like that debian/ is not installed |
| 21:27.04 | raidghost | Where can i find amount of dvb tunercards in debian? |
| 21:27.30 | raidghost | it was a directory. but of cours i forgot where to search |
| 21:28.43 | porton | debian/ is installed or no? |
| 21:28.54 | trek00 | porton: i think you should better explain what are you asking for: are you a developer, author of a software and asking for best place to put a script on debian directory standard? |
| 21:29.12 | porton | trek00: like this |
| 21:30.14 | trek00 | porton: check the https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard |
| 21:30.42 | trek00 | porton: if it is architecture independent it should go under /usr/share/packagename |
| 21:31.15 | trek00 | porton: inside this directory you can create the directory tree you like more |
| 21:31.33 | porton | trek00: I will formulate the question another way: Where to put my file under /usr/share/packagename? maybe like /usr/share/packagename/mydebian or /usr/share/packagename/debian2? |
| 21:32.15 | trek00 | porton: is that package a standard debian package or a package made by you? |
| 21:32.45 | porton | made by me (Debian-native to simplify maintenance and closed source) |
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| 21:33.13 | trek00 | well you can put it where you want under /usr/share/yourpackagename |
| 21:33.35 | porton | trek00: I know this. I just asked for an advice of how to name the subfolder |
| 21:34.21 | porton | trek00: It probably should be in Debian packaging guide, as this situation is often and users would probably benefit of standardization |
| 21:34.55 | trek00 | porton: actually packages are configured via debconf, as a standard way in debian |
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| 21:35.51 | porton | trek00: I write it in postinst script right? But to keep postinst short, I want to put a part of its work into a separate script. Where to put THIS script? |
| 21:36.07 | trek00 | porton: if you have a custom script it depends who is supposed to run it (dpkg, your program, user) and how (on install, at user request) |
| 21:36.23 | Habbie | porton, would the separate script be reused by anything other than postinst? |
| 21:36.25 | porton | it is run on installation and on re-configuration |
| 21:36.33 | Habbie | ah, so yes |
| 21:36.34 | porton | Habbie: no |
| 21:36.39 | Habbie | uh |
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| 21:37.11 | Habbie | oh, right |
| 21:37.24 | trek00 | porton: if it is called by postinst you can install under /usr/share/packagename/debian |
| 21:37.59 | porton | trek00: So to install files from debian/ but not all of them? |
| 21:38.32 | trek00 | porton: you need to install this script as any other file you install with your package |
| 21:38.53 | trek00 | porton: then postis |
| 21:38.58 | trek00 | postinst can call it |
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| 21:39.02 | porton | trek00: but not to install the entire debian/ folder of the package source? |
| 21:39.29 | trek00 | not, only the script called by postinst |
| 21:40.20 | porton | BTW, how to ask questions like yes/no, hostname, etc. like for example exim4 package does (with a terminal based UI) from shell scripts? |
| 21:40.55 | trek00 | porton: they do with debconf |
| 21:41.36 | humpled | i think that is whiptail |
| 21:41.54 | porton | where to read how to use debconf in my package? |
| 21:42.23 | trek00 | porton: debconf is a collection of templates, not commands you can put in a script, instead with whiptail/dialog you can aks from you script but it's not integrated in debian configuration system |
| 21:42.57 | porton | trek00: excuse me, it is not an answer to my last question |
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| 21:43.06 | trek00 | porton: it's not that simple but check http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html |
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| 21:43.21 | trek00 | porton: ask what you need, do not excuse :) |
| 21:43.36 | trek00 | oops misread |
| 21:43.47 | ph0x | #kvm is dead, could someone here help me, I have a simple question but I cannot find the answer via google |
| 21:43.51 | humpled | fifi! |
| 21:44.23 | ph0x | I'm trying to launch a windows 7 vm via a getty |
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| 21:44.43 | Habbie | ph0x, that sentence needs some unpacking |
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| 21:45.02 | Habbie | ph0x, i know what 'launch a windows 7 vm' means and i know what a getty is, but what's their connection? |
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| 22:07.05 | somebody | Hello. What mailing list should I be on, to get notifications about new releases, security breaches, EOL and other such updates? |
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| 22:10.25 | annadane | somebody, debian-announce and debian-security-announce |
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| 22:19.31 | annadane | does , have any meaning in regex? if i cp /path/to/file , |
| 22:19.36 | annadane | . is obviously current directory |
| 22:20.50 | trek00 | annadane: on the shell there is no regex, only * and ? have special meaning, not the . |
| 22:21.11 | annadane | i answered my own question, it made a file called , |
| 22:21.42 | trek00 | :) |
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| 22:23.18 | annadane | also i need to stop saying regex when i mean glob |
| 22:23.25 | annadane | character thingy person |
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| 22:38.21 | Lisa101 | Hi anybody |
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| 22:48.59 | somebody | Hi, Lisa101. |
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| 22:52.59 | Guest36024 | is debian the best distro |
| 22:54.01 | trek00 | for sure |
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| 22:55.34 | sunzero | how can i disable /etc/update-iniramfs.conf/conf.d/resume file and other scripts/ files |
| 22:55.39 | sunzero | for boot |
| 22:56.02 | sunzero | i get local-premount needs root= fs UUID or /dev/xxx |
| 22:56.18 | sunzero | initramfs i don't know from what is it |
| 22:57.01 | trek00 | sunzero: is the problem related to the resume script or they are two separate issues? |
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| 22:57.49 | sunzero | trek00: to the resume script only |
| 22:58.00 | sunzero | trek00: and there to scripts/ folder |
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| 22:58.24 | sunzero | trek00: i just have compiled new kernel and i got this on boot:) |
| 22:58.29 | trek00 | sunzero: may be do you have problems with resume and encrypted swap? |
| 22:59.26 | sunzero | no i don't have a swap |
| 22:59.34 | trek00 | ok |
| 22:59.47 | sunzero | RESUME=none |
| 22:59.58 | sunzero | not helps.. RESUME=root=/dev/xxx also |
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| 23:00.07 | sunzero | # also i think |
| 23:00.12 | sunzero | just i want to disable it on boot |
| 23:00.44 | trek00 | sunzero: what is the exact error message? |
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| 23:05.10 | sunzero | trek00: Running /scripts/local-premount ... Begin: Waiting for suspend/resume device ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. |
| 23:05.31 | sunzero | trek00: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. and 8 times and returns me to ash login |
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| 23:07.24 | trek00 | sunzero: I had a similar issue, but with encrypted partitions in /etc/crypttab |
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| 23:07.39 | trek00 | sunzero: is that file empty for you= |
| 23:07.41 | trek00 | ? |
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| 23:09.19 | sunzero | trek00: it have been empty or just RESUME, i have added RESUME=root=/dev/xxx |
| 23:09.24 | sunzero | and i got this |
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| 23:10.00 | trek00 | sunzero: the /etc/crypttab is empty? |
| 23:11.30 | annadane | Guest36024, it depends what you're looking for but i certainly think it's among the best linux, yes |
| 23:12.17 | annadane | https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian and (outdated but probably still applicable) https://wiki.debian.org/WhyDebian |
| 23:14.17 | sunzero | yes |
| 23:14.19 | sunzero | trek00 |
| 23:15.16 | trek00 | sunzero: well, do not set resume to anything, it should point to a swap partition or nothing |
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| 23:16.40 | sunzero | yes i will create it |
| 23:16.47 | trek00 | sunzero: you said you recompiled the kernel, when you get the ash shell, the root filesystem is mounted? have you tried the kernel boot commandline rootdelay? |
| 23:17.19 | trek00 | sunzero: the resume file is only needed to hibernate&resume support |
| 23:17.21 | sunzero | trek00: no before to be mounted 3sec. of boot |
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| 23:18.19 | trek00 | sunzero: may be you don't have compiled some module about disk/fs? or they are not included in the initrd? |
| 23:19.14 | trek00 | sunzero: actually the errors related to scripts/local-* are scripts inside the initrd that tries to mount the root filesystem |
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| 23:23.36 | sunzero | yes right |
| 23:23.42 | sunzero | i will check this |
| 23:23.44 | sunzero | thanks |
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