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| 00:02.40 | coyote | anyone know about adb? i can figure out why it won't recognize my device |
| 00:03.57 | trek00 | coyote: i don't know about adb, but did you check /var/log/syslog ? |
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| 00:05.19 | coyote | hi trek00 |
| 00:05.21 | coyote | checking |
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| 00:08.29 | coyote | it detected the model of the phone but after checking /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00:14.0/usb1/1-2" it says 'was not an MTP device' |
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| 00:09.44 | trek00 | coyote: I don't know but i remember there was some mtp package to install? |
| 00:10.37 | trek00 | coyote: may be libmtp-runtime ? |
| 00:10.56 | coyote | hmm that's media transfer protocal it's not what i want to do. i want to put the phone back to fresh factory install |
| 00:11.20 | trek00 | coyote: mtp is a protocol to talk with android if i remember correctly |
| 00:11.33 | coyote | hmm ok |
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| 00:13.37 | coyote | when i go in synaptic i see libmtp-runtime, libmtp9, and libmtp-common installed |
| 00:13.44 | coyote | mtp-tools isn't, should i? |
| 00:13.54 | coyote | hmm libmtp-dev isn't also |
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| 00:14.38 | trek00 | i think libmtp-runtime should be ok to connect, but i really don't know |
| 00:15.06 | coyote | hmm i have that one installed already |
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| 00:17.25 | coyote | i'm doing the thing three posts down, "mjwitt2" 's post, here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/att-one-m9/help/return-to-stock-t3539120 |
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| 00:18.16 | coyote | i know it's for winblows but it's the best i could find so far |
| 00:19.30 | trek00 | coyote: i have absolutely no experience with smarphones, they don't run debian :) |
| 00:19.55 | coyote | actually they can with gnuroot debian app! but that's a whole nother thing |
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| 00:20.16 | coyote | and adb packages are pushed with debian |
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| 00:20.27 | coyote | but yep |
| 00:20.30 | coyote | ok thanks |
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| 00:21.24 | trek00 | coyote: anyway MTP is an extension to USB and it seems adb is searching an MTP device as written in the logs |
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| 00:23.50 | coyote | hmm how do you know it's adb doing that? |
| 00:24.13 | coyote | Aug 31 19:03:22 torosingtome kernel: [76941.517927] usb 1-2: USB disconnect, device number 17 |
| 00:24.18 | coyote | ^first line |
| 00:24.30 | coyote | says it's just the kernel right? |
| 00:24.34 | trek00 | coyote: i assume the log you pasted are from the time you launched adb |
| 00:24.38 | coyote | no mention of adb on any of the liens |
| 00:25.01 | coyote | i haven't actually launched adb |
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| 00:25.09 | coyote | just put $adb devices |
| 00:25.31 | trek00 | coyote: well, may be the automounter tries to mount the usb device and the kernel print this error |
| 00:25.37 | coyote | yeah |
| 00:25.40 | coyote | my thinking ^ |
| 00:25.51 | coyote | well thanks for your help trek00 |
| 00:26.07 | trek00 | hope you'll find the solution |
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| 00:26.42 | coyote | >_< |
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| 00:28.00 | penguin42 | has a box that I just upgraded stretch->buster and it's got a problem that it doesn't regenerate grub.cfg on new kernel installs (i.e. it was still set as 4.9 after the upgrade) - it had been doing this for a while; any idea where to debug? I suspect it may be related to me having done a 32->64 convert on it |
| 00:30.18 | trek00 | penguin42: does it print an error messge? |
| 00:30.34 | penguin42 | trek00: Not that I've found |
| 00:30.54 | coyote | hey anyone know adb? it isn't recognizing my android device and i'm not sure if i should try to download a driver or if (as one site has) i don't need to and something else is wrong? |
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| 00:31.14 | penguin42 | coyote: Check you've set up permissions on your /dev/usb/whatever device |
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| 00:31.51 | penguin42 | coyote: You can add udev rules to do that automatically |
| 00:32.39 | trek00 | penguin42: a kernel install should always trigger the initramfs and grub hooks, they are both missing or only grub? |
| 00:33.11 | penguin42 | trek00: Only grub |
| 00:33.35 | penguin42 | trek00: It's created the new initrd just fine; if I manually run update-grub it's fine |
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| 00:34.00 | trek00 | penguin42: do you install kernel via aptitude? or with a graphical gui? |
| 00:34.07 | coyote | penguin42: thanks i'll try to figure out how to do that |
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| 00:36.44 | penguin42 | trek00: apt upgrade or in this case dist-upgrade |
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| 00:38.13 | trek00 | penguin42: under /var/log there are dpkg.log and aptitude that sometimes contains errors |
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| 00:41.41 | TRS-80 | Evening, fellow wizards! :) |
| 00:41.57 | penguin42 | trek00: from /var/log/apt/term.log : https://paste.debian.net/1098238/ |
| 00:42.03 | penguin42 | trek00: Looks fine to me |
| 00:42.35 | penguin42 | TRS-80: Greetings 8bit'er |
| 00:42.56 | trek00 | penguin42: yes, no errors, but no grub too :/ |
| 00:43.10 | TRS-80 | I was wondering if it's normal for Firefox and LibreOffice to install every localization known to mankind? Or have I messed up my lovale somehow? |
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| 00:43.16 | TRS-80 | penguin42: XD |
| 00:44.03 | penguin42 | trek00: Which linux-image-* packages do you have - ignoring the actual numeric part ? |
| 00:44.18 | trek00 | TRS-80: there are separate packages for each locale |
| 00:44.52 | trek00 | penguin42: for buster linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64 |
| 00:45.07 | penguin42 | yeh same here |
| 00:45.36 | penguin42 | trek00: DO you have any other of the non-versinoed packages; i.e. the linux-image-amd64 itself? |
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| 00:46.00 | trek00 | yes |
| 00:46.50 | trek00 | penguin42: linux-image-amd64, but it does nothing |
| 00:47.17 | mikeymop | I just got a WD black 3tb, tested it in windows and formatted ntfs |
| 00:47.26 | mikeymop | on debian 10, I installed ntfs-3g, plugged in the drive and rebooted |
| 00:47.38 | penguin42 | trek00: Nod, hmmmm - I'd still bet it's something to do with me having converted it from 32bit, but I'm out of ideas where to look |
| 00:47.38 | mikeymop | I didn't see the device in `fdisk -l` `sudo lsblk` or in gnome-disks |
| 00:47.52 | mikeymop | I looked in /dev and only saw /dev/sda which is my ssd |
| 00:48.03 | trek00 | penguin42: i would check if grub and kernel archs match :) |
| 00:48.07 | mikeymop | is there anything else I have to do in debian to see my drive? |
| 00:48.14 | penguin42 | mikeymop: Check /proc/partitions - but that suggests it's not seeing the sata controller it's plugged into |
| 00:48.25 | mikeymop | I will try there |
| 00:48.40 | mikeymop | My ssd is part of an lvm pool, I set it up using the defaults in the installer, could this play a part in detecting new disks? |
| 00:48.49 | TRS-80 | trek00: yes, and I'm doing an update, and they seem to ALL be installed; is that normal? |
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| 00:49.26 | penguin42 | trek00: Yeh all the packages installed on teh system are either all or amd64 |
| 00:49.45 | trek00 | TRS-80: may be some package you installed depends on all locales, but i don't know which, you can search who depends on a package with aptitude, if you are familiar with |
| 00:49.48 | penguin42 | mikeymop: Doubt it; all drives should show up in lsblk |
| 00:49.55 | mikeymop | `file /proc/partitions` is empty so I think it is my sata controller ty |
| 00:50.04 | penguin42 | empty?! |
| 00:50.06 | mikeymop | yea |
| 00:50.29 | trek00 | mikeymop: is /proc mounted? :D |
| 00:51.16 | mikeymop | lmao |
| 00:51.42 | penguin42 | notes empty!=missing ! |
| 00:51.49 | TRS-80 | trek00: thanks, that gives me a direction to look at least, prior to which I had no clue where to begin :) |
| 00:51.54 | mikeymop | termbin.com/4mpg |
| 00:52.08 | trek00 | penguin42: do you have this file? /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub |
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| 00:53.06 | penguin42 | trek00: hmm yes |
| 00:53.22 | trek00 | TRS-80: hope you will find the chain of dependency that generate that mass install |
| 00:54.21 | trek00 | penguin42: this is the script that calls update-grub |
| 00:55.25 | trek00 | penguin42: on install kenel postinst is called /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-4.19.0-5-amd64.postinst |
| 00:55.34 | penguin42 | trek00: Seems sane enough to me; and systemd-detect-virt --container isn't saying it's a container |
| 00:55.42 | trek00 | penguin42: and it calls all the scripts in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ |
| 00:56.21 | penguin42 | trek00: Hmmmm |
| 00:56.37 | penguin42 | trek00: I'm wondering if it's failed to run apt-auto-removal as well |
| 00:56.55 | yans | Sunday bloody sunday! |
| 00:57.01 | penguin42 | trek00: I've got some pretty old kernels in there as well; so I wonder fi it's not running any of the postinst.d |
| 00:57.19 | penguin42 | hands yans a square of chocolate |
| 00:57.32 | mikeymop | smells chocolate |
| 00:57.33 | trek00 | penguin42: but it updates initramfs right? |
| 00:57.44 | penguin42 | trek00: Well it's certainly created one |
| 01:00.05 | trek00 | you can try to call it manually with: run-parts --report --exit-on-error --arg=4.19.0-5-amd64 --arg=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-5-amd64 /etc/kernel/postinst.d |
| 01:01.02 | trek00 | add also a --verbose |
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| 01:03.39 | trek00 | penguin42: last 2 messages are for you, missed your nick |
| 01:04.01 | penguin42 | nod will try in a few mins |
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| 01:05.27 | trek00 | mikeymop: your /proc/partitions should not be empty, even if sata controller is broken, it should contains at least your ssd device |
| 01:07.06 | yans | still running! |
| 01:07.36 | penguin42 | trek00: Unless it's not even seeing the ssd but it's stopped at a initram shell and can't see any storage |
| 01:07.50 | jim | hi... I'm trying to find out how certbot gets run, and the parameters it's run with. all I found so far is the systemd unit file certbot.timer (incidently, I use certbot for letsencrypt) |
| 01:08.06 | trek00 | penguin42: it should at least see the initramfs device |
| 01:08.33 | jim | the certbot.timer file doesn't show how certbot is run |
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| 01:12.27 | trek00 | jim: may be the certbot.service ? or /etc/cron.d/certbot |
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| 01:14.16 | jim | trek00, maybe, and, I ran systemctl | grep cert and only certbot.timer came out |
| 01:14.55 | trek00 | jim: you can get all the files with dpkg -L certbot |
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| 01:15.05 | jim | good point |
| 01:15.21 | jim | was gonna use find :) |
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| 01:21.10 | jim | found it, thanks. is there any other mechanism for certbot than editing the unit file directly, that allows me to add parameters to the certbot run? |
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| 01:22.00 | trek00 | jim: i really don't know, but there is a /etc/letsencrypt/cli.ini may be you can add some options here, but check: man certbot |
| 01:22.40 | jim | yeah OK, been reading that and man systemd |
| 01:23.03 | jim | thanks again, I'll look |
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| 01:24.22 | trek00 | :) |
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| 01:27.55 | penguin42 | trek00: The run-parts did run zz-update-grub and apparently did it OK |
| 01:28.30 | penguin42 | trek00: Shrug |
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| 01:28.57 | penguin42 | trek00: Im tempted to add a few test files into the /etc/kernel/postinst.d at the start and end to just log if it's getting run |
| 01:32.21 | trek00 | penguin42: i think it's the best method to understand what it's going |
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| 01:32.42 | trek00 | penguin42: or you can add -x at the top |
| 01:33.18 | penguin42 | trek00: Yeh |
| 01:33.24 | penguin42 | trek00: Oh well, thanks for your thoughts |
| 01:33.38 | trek00 | penguin42: hope this help you :) |
| 01:34.15 | penguin42 | trek00: Well, it has pointed me along the paths to check, but it's not found anything smoking yet; but also shows I'm not missing anything really obvious |
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| 01:41.39 | penguin42 | trek00: Oh well, thanks! |
| 01:42.31 | trek00 | :) |
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| 02:43.16 | jim | if I edit a unit (say, certbot.service) controlled by a timer unit (say, certbot.timer), is there anything I have to do to activate the changes? or will systemd read certbot.service file, with the changes, next time it fires? |
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| 02:46.09 | OerHeks | i think you are good like that, jim |
| 02:46.20 | themill | I'd have assumed systemctl daemon-reload was needed |
| 02:46.31 | OerHeks | no reload/restart in your usercase |
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| 02:47.02 | jim | would a reload hurt? |
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| 02:48.20 | OerHeks | check systemctl status certbot.timer ?? |
| 02:49.42 | jim | you mean after a reload? |
| 02:49.57 | jim | or before and after? |
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| 02:52.46 | jim | looks like certbot.timer loaded and active, before and after systemctl daemon-reload |
| 02:53.13 | jim | OerHeks, themill, thanks |
| 02:55.40 | OerHeks | have fun! |
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| 03:10.54 | biotty | hey, i found a typo in a man page. how do i leave a note |
| 03:11.20 | biotty | it's a man page that has been edited for debian |
| 03:12.23 | biotty | but i think the typo, which is orthographic, was not introduced with that |
| 03:12.45 | biotty | it's a funny mis-spelling |
| 03:14.39 | biotty | man cron has "existance" in it, which is not found in the english dictionary |
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| 03:17.00 | zumba_addict | I have net-tools installed but i don't have traceroute |
| 03:17.48 | biotty | it is in a paragraph mentioning Debian, so i tend to think it was not there in teh original version of Paul Vixie |
| 03:18.07 | zumba_addict | apt-cache showed traceroute |
| 03:18.13 | zumba_addict | i'm good now |
| 03:18.26 | biotty | so, where do i provide a correction for Debians downstream patch |
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| 03:27.25 | themill | biotty: which man page? |
| 03:28.48 | OerHeks | Regardless of the existance of any of these files, https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/cron/crontab.1.en.html |
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| 03:29.23 | themill | That's already fixed in buster |
| 03:30.04 | biotty | themill: section 1, crontab |
| 03:30.34 | biotty | themill: sorry i lagged and didnt read firth. okay |
| 03:31.20 | biotty | OerHeks: yes, that one contains the error |
| 03:33.14 | biotty | OerHeks,themill: i see the fix in buster, yes. Thank you |
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