| 00:01.03 | Tom-_ | Thedarkb, i read your question but i don't know the answer. hang around, maybe someone will know eventually |
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| 00:06.38 | Henry151 | hi #debian |
| 00:06.49 | Henry151 | upgrading another system from debian 9 to debian 10.. |
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| 00:08.57 | LtL | ,v libpng12-0 |
| 00:08.58 | judd | Package: libpng12-0 on amd64 -- jessie-security: 1.2.50-2+deb8u2; jessie: 1.2.50-2+deb8u3 |
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| 00:09.31 | LtL | Thedarkb: not in stretch or buster |
| 00:09.43 | Thedarkb | LtL, I know. |
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| 00:09.55 | Thedarkb | Which is why I'm pulling a .deb from Jessie. |
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| 00:09.59 | Thedarkb | Which I know is a bad idea. |
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| 00:11.37 | LtL | Henry151: congratulations |
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| 00:13.07 | somiaj | Thedarkb: you can't just install random .debs in buster, where did you get this .deb, what makes you think it is compadable with buster |
| 00:13.30 | Thedarkb | somiaj, I got it from the Jessie repo. |
| 00:13.46 | somiaj | yea, you can't expect a jessie .deb to be installed in buster |
| 00:14.01 | somiaj | you need to have whatever software requires this outdatded lib be updated to use the modern libpng |
| 00:14.09 | Thedarkb | That isn't an option. |
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| 00:14.35 | somiaj | maybe make a jessie vm and run it there |
| 00:14.39 | Henry151 | i might not actually upgrade this system |
| 00:14.45 | Henry151 | https://termbin.com/798n this is my sources.list presently |
| 00:14.58 | Thedarkb | I'll just roll my own build and statically link libicu52 and libpng12 |
| 00:15.01 | somiaj | or if the software will actually work with a modern libpng, just put a link to force it. |
| 00:15.07 | somiaj | Thedarkb: yea that works too |
| 00:15.08 | Henry151 | i don't know if i want to get into a can of worms messing around with upgrading this thing. |
| 00:15.34 | somiaj | Henry151: debian 9 will have lts support for another half year or so |
| 00:15.39 | Thedarkb | Wait, put a link and force it, somiaj ? |
| 00:15.44 | Thedarkb | How do I do that? |
| 00:15.53 | somiaj | Thedarkb: ln the libpng you have to libpng12.so.0 |
| 00:16.05 | somiaj | that way the file is in place, but it is actually pointing at the libpng on your system |
| 00:16.06 | Thedarkb | Ahhh, thanks. |
| 00:16.15 | somiaj | some software will just work, others won't |
| 00:16.31 | LtL | Henry151: why do you repeat non-free so much? |
| 00:16.31 | somiaj | depends on what calls the software makes and how backwards compadable libpng is |
| 00:17.05 | somiaj | Henry151: oh wait, you said 9 (got confused with 8), debian stretch is supported until next summer, and lts will support a limited set of packages until 2022, so you have time before you upgrade. |
| 00:17.08 | Henry151 | LtL: probably had no idea what i was doing at the time and was just putting it every-which-where |
| 00:17.35 | LtL | Henry151: okay, honesty is good! |
| 00:18.07 | Henry151 | yeah, this VPS i've had quite a while and it's a real mess |
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| 00:18.43 | somiaj | Henry151: sometimes if things are a mess (due to learning), a backup reinstall is worthwhile to ensure you are following good practices |
| 00:18.43 | Henry151 | i've tried to do all sorts of crazy things on it while not knowing what i was doing, and yet, i achieved some things with it that i don't really know how to achieve again, so i don't want to break anything, it's all working |
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| 00:19.32 | LtL | Henry151: if its a OVH VPS, i don't think they support buster, but that doesn't mean you can't. |
| 00:20.08 | Henry151 | uptime is 759 days :) it is an OVH VPS. I'm actually realizing that it's where my irssi i'm using to talk to y'all right now is running |
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| 00:21.02 | LtL | Henry151: your running a very old kernel then. |
| 00:21.48 | Henry151 | is that going to cause me any pain? or does it mean i'm vulnerable to attack? |
| 00:22.23 | somiaj | Henry151: long uptime only means you are running in inscure kernel |
| 00:22.36 | somiaj | kernels get fixes every few months, and you should reboot when you get security fixes to your kernel |
| 00:22.50 | LtL | Henry151: yours should be debian 4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1 |
| 00:23.14 | somiaj | oh I guess if you are on some shared kernel vps, and not using the debian kernel, rebooting won't do much |
| 00:24.54 | LtL | Henry151: or rather, 4.9.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.189-3+deb9u1 |
| 00:25.08 | LtL | hexchat lied to me |
| 00:25.29 | LtL | wait, forget that, my bad |
| 00:25.56 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 00:25.57 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.3.0-trunk-686-pae (5.3.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.2.0-3-686 (5.2.17-1); bullseye: 5.2.0-3-686 (5.2.17-1); buster-backports: 5.2.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.2.9-2~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-6-686 (4.19.67-2+deb10u1); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.19.67-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae |
| 00:25.58 | judd | (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u1~deb8u1) |
| 00:27.27 | LtL | my ovh vps is stretch 4.9.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.189-3+deb9u1 |
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| 00:28.52 | LtL | somiaj: my bet he's running a dbian kernel |
| 00:30.51 | somiaj | LtL: yea, I got confused, for some reason I thought 'doesn't support buster' was some of those old openvnz vpses running on a shared 2.32 kernel or something like that |
| 00:31.03 | somiaj | as opposed to the company just dosen't support buster |
| 00:31.30 | somiaj | arg 2.6.32 kernel, but there have been a few of those having trouble upgrading to buster because of that |
| 00:31.39 | somiaj | since libc6 now requires 3.2 or newer |
| 00:32.57 | LtL | somiaj: ovh may support buster by now, not sure. i installed stretch on mine which was jessie prior to that. |
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| 00:35.06 | LtL | by 'support' only means if you have problems they won't help you. |
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| 00:47.55 | LtL | Henry151: you should really look to see if you have a newer kernel in / and reboot the thing, better to apt update && apt upgrade first. |
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| 01:01.56 | ozfalcon | ,libsane |
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| 01:02.22 | ozfalcon | ,kernels |
| 01:02.23 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.3.0-trunk-686-pae (5.3.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.2.0-3-686 (5.2.17-1); bullseye: 5.2.0-3-686 (5.2.17-1); buster-backports: 5.2.0-0.bpo.2-686 (5.2.9-2~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-6-686 (4.19.67-2+deb10u1); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.19.67-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u1); jessie-backports: |
| 01:02.24 | judd | 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.11-686-pae (4.9.189-3+deb9u1~deb8u1) |
| 01:02.40 | ozfalcon | ,sane-backends |
| 01:03.11 | Unit193 | ,v sane-backends |
| 01:03.12 | judd | No package named 'sane-backends' was found in amd64. |
| 01:03.26 | ozfalcon | ,v libsane |
| 01:03.27 | judd | Package: libsane on amd64 -- jessie: 1.0.24-8+deb8u2; stretch: 1.0.25-4.1; bullseye: 1.0.27-3.2; buster: 1.0.27-3.2; sid: 1.0.27-3.2 |
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| 01:19.41 | eblip | hey i have iptables..but i cant do systemctl status iptables |
| 01:24.31 | dipaso | eblip, try systemctl status firewall.service |
| 01:25.05 | eblip | hmm no....im thinking maybe its something to do with it being a kernel thing |
| 01:25.15 | eblip | but i have managed to see the status on other linux before now |
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| 01:32.34 | trui | i just got into debian, but iptables was replaced with nftables so maybe that affected it, eblip |
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| 01:34.26 | trui | i just got into debian = i have no idea what i'm doing, but i hope this helps somewhat |
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| 01:35.21 | eblip | hey good point rui |
| 01:35.25 | eblip | trui |
| 01:38.29 | trui | when i looked up a firewall tutorial, it used iptables and i only learned that they switched it after, haha... but i still access it with /usr/sbin/iptables-legacy |
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| 01:38.47 | eblip | i left it as nftables |
| 01:38.53 | trui | tho i should really learn nftables |
| 01:38.53 | eblip | and i am still using all the same rules |
| 01:39.01 | eblip | i think it is the same |
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| 01:39.49 | eblip | i looked on debian wiki and it tells how to change to legacy..if you want ..and hten tells how to build a file |
| 01:40.01 | eblip | i built a file and saved it .and now i have my rules. |
| 01:40.10 | eblip | but at the back end i believe it uses nftables |
| 01:40.20 | eblip | in fact ..now i am totally confused |
| 01:40.25 | eblip | buit they are working |
| 01:40.29 | trui | fortunately now that i'm on debian, i can not worry about my system and use that stress-free time to actually learn things ;) |
| 01:41.07 | trui | vs other distros where i 'learned' as things broke, and often forgot what i did exactly |
| 01:41.32 | eblip | yes same here...i was using gentoo for a few years..but not its a business machine and my screen went... |
| 01:41.53 | eblip | i plugged in another screen and half the stuff was off the screen..so i had to dig around for drivers..etc. |
| 01:42.18 | eblip | on top of that i had to do a serious update and i just cant afford that any more on a business machine ..although i do love gentoo |
| 01:43.04 | trui | for me it was distro-hopping syndrome, but no longer |
| 01:43.31 | eblip | yes ...im sticking with debian now..spent a few days getting my exact same gentoo set up and everything in place |
| 01:43.36 | eblip | but will be much quicker next time |
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| 01:52.14 | trui | i actually used a live puppy linux usb for longer than i'd like to admit (harddrive failed and i kind of liked it), but debian is a dream in comparison |
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| 02:00.35 | eblip | cool |
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| 05:15.24 | k-man | my logitech bluetooth mouse feels very kind of jerky compared to a wired mouse |
| 05:15.27 | k-man | is that normal? |
| 05:15.51 | k-man | as though it has a much lower sampling rate than the wired mouse |
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| 05:16.55 | nekoseam | where are icewm themes located? i can't find ice-lib |
| 05:17.34 | oiaohm | k-man: wired mice don't have the radio interference problem. |
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| 05:18.12 | oiaohm | k-man: so a supper high end wireless mouse being crappy can be perfectly normal. |
| 05:19.03 | k-man | hmmm |
| 05:19.27 | k-man | i'm not convinced that radio interference is the issue |
| 05:20.07 | oiaohm | k-man: https://www.howtogeek.com/429291/usb-rf-vs.-bluetooth-mouse-and-keyboards-which-is-better/ also on top of that your best bluetooth mouse is 1.3ms if input latency your best RF mouse is 1ms and you cheepest wired mouse is 1ms. |
| 05:20.33 | oiaohm | k-man: that is with zero interference. |
| 05:21.01 | k-man | ok, interesting |
| 05:21.30 | oiaohm | So bluetooth is slightly behind out the box. |
| 05:21.51 | oiaohm | That can cause a feel difference. |
| 05:22.19 | oiaohm | that is before the interference problem. |
| 05:22.54 | oiaohm | k-man: I have a MSI motherboard with a noise power supply rail. And that screws up all the wireless receives. |
| 05:23.02 | oiaohm | bluetooth or rf |
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| 05:23.28 | oiaohm | k-man: so radio interference problem can come straight out the motherboard. |
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| 05:24.31 | k-man | i see a lot of talk about how bluetooth mice poll at 20hz |
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| 05:25.46 | oiaohm | even your cheap wired mouse is polling at 1000hz. |
| 05:26.11 | k-man | it seems its some new kernel feature? |
| 05:26.14 | oiaohm | k-man: do note I said best bluetooh mouse is 1.3ms. |
| 05:26.24 | k-man | https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/cim3oc/bluetooth_mouse_polling_rate_somehow_dropped_to/ |
| 05:27.04 | oiaohm | k-man: the best bluetooh you can expcet is about 750hz polling and that is with nothing else wrong. |
| 05:28.27 | oiaohm | Not a new kernel feature. Bluetooth devices alter their speed based on noise. |
| 05:28.43 | oiaohm | and the controller chips get stuck. |
| 05:28.57 | oiaohm | once they have turned a device to min they stay there. |
| 05:29.20 | k-man | oh interesting |
| 05:29.26 | k-man | so a reboot may improve things? |
| 05:29.33 | oiaohm | k-man: that what you are pointing to is most likely not a kernel bug. Its like someone put in a new access point near by that is now interfering. |
| 05:29.54 | oiaohm | Radio interference with bluetooth is a serous pain in the ass. |
| 05:30.05 | oiaohm | Due to its auto band reduction in case of noise. |
| 05:30.17 | k-man | oiaohm: i only just purchased this mouse and turned it on. this is my first experience with it |
| 05:30.29 | oiaohm | Its not like RF mouse that will try to transmit stronger to attempt to overcome the noise. |
| 05:30.40 | oiaohm | and then have shorter battery life. |
| 05:30.44 | oiaohm | So either way you lose. |
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| 05:32.06 | k-man | ok |
| 05:32.07 | oiaohm | I tried using the mouse on another computer with bluetooth and it works fine, so the mouse shouldn't be the problem. << Like this line here is classic. You move to a different computer you have movied to another physical location with a different noise profile. |
| 05:32.11 | k-man | thanks for the good news aib |
| 05:32.17 | k-man | oiaohm i mean |
| 05:32.52 | oiaohm | I am not saying absolutely that it not a kernel fault but rf noise is a major problem. |
| 05:33.11 | oiaohm | I use a lot of wired. |
| 05:33.15 | k-man | so this mouse also comes with a usb dongle |
| 05:33.22 | k-man | i just tried that - works much better than bt |
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| 05:33.58 | oiaohm | So its most likely a dual bt/rf mouse. |
| 05:34.10 | k-man | yes, i prefer wired too - but draging the wired mouse in and out of my backpack is getting annoying |
| 05:34.12 | oiaohm | Yes rf mode will push over radio noise way better. |
| 05:34.20 | k-man | oiaohm: yes, dual bt and rf |
| 05:34.56 | oiaohm | and a good rf mouse will give you the 1ms that you expect out a wire mouse. |
| 05:35.06 | k-man | hmm... i'll have to compare it on this computer running windows |
| 05:35.19 | k-man | see how bt mouse is under win10 |
| 05:35.22 | k-man | for comparison |
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| 05:35.52 | oiaohm | there is high odds is just the noise problem with how bluetooth responds to noise. |
| 05:36.57 | k-man | ok, thanks oiaohm |
| 05:37.03 | k-man | anyway, got to run |
| 05:37.05 | k-man | thanks for your help |
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| 07:08.07 | Guest51848 | hey guys some themes looks bugged with Openbox 3.6.1-8 |
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| 07:10.12 | Guest51848 | i reverted to Openbox 3.6.1-4 and the themes are ok. |
| 07:11.06 | gjvc | "buggy" not "bugged" |
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| 07:20.59 | somiaj | ,v openbox |
| 07:21.00 | judd | Package: openbox on amd64 -- jessie: 3.5.2-8+deb8u1; stretch: 3.6.1-4; bullseye: 3.6.1-8; buster: 3.6.1-8; sid: 3.6.1-8 |
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| 07:23.22 | somiaj | Guest76987: I would check the bug reports or maybe the themes, also look in what debian patches were added between -4 and -8, I see very little difference, so maybe some regression due to a bug fix |
| 07:23.26 | somiaj | https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/o/openbox/openbox_3.6.1-8_changelog |
| 07:23.52 | somiaj | You could also file a bug report so debian knows of the regression |
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| 08:14.34 | blastwave | anyone know how to enble audio output from Firefox? |
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| 08:31.36 | jeanpica | hi! |
| 08:31.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys how secure is the upstream for snapd? |
| 08:32.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | are the packages gpged like apt repos? |
| 08:32.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | who maintains them? |
| 08:32.38 | jeanpica | I use an extra repository for some packages, apparently one of those mirrors is corrupted, but my Debian 9 keep chosing that again and again so apt upgrade keep failing https://bpaste.net/show/RKQA |
| 08:33.00 | jeanpica | is there a way to tell apt to avoid a certain mirror? |
| 08:33.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | comment it out? |
| 08:34.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | go into /etc/apt/sources.d/packagerepo.list and put a # in front of the http:// entry |
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| 08:40.05 | jeanpica | Eryn_1983_FL I need a package from that repository, the problem doesn'T seems to be the whole repository but only one of its mirrors |
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| 08:41.35 | jelly | jeanpica: then edit the sources.list entry and replace it with a different mirror |
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| 09:15.42 | ws2k3 | would it be possible to block arp requiest based on ip range? i have a use case where an application is sending out arp on all interfaces. and this is causing some routing issues |
| 09:18.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys gpg is acting strange in lxd/lxc |
| 09:18.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | not sure what i did wrong |
| 09:18.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | https://paste.debian.net/1104871/ |
| 09:18.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | i cant get it to install this key so i can download puppet. |
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| 09:19.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | it worked fine on the host same exact one liner |
| 09:22.35 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, I don't see where you tell gpg what to do with the key....shouldn't there be a --import or some such in that command? |
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| 09:24.38 | Eryn_1983_FL | now in my onliner.. |
| 09:24.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | maybe they updated the security or commands? |
| 09:24.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | not |
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| 09:24.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | ill do an import |
| 09:25.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | https://paste.debian.net/1104873/ |
| 09:25.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | still isue |
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| 09:26.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | do i need it make it trust it? |
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| 09:27.47 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, the error says the repo isn't signed. That isn't an issue with gpg, it is a problem with the repo. I don't tinker like I used to, but I think you are just running into one of the 'new and improved' safety measures. |
| 09:28.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | oh god |
| 09:28.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok ill just dl the packages myself and install them, |
| 09:28.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | ffs |
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| 09:29.25 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/732985/force-update-from-unsigned-repository-ubuntu-16-04 |
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| 09:31.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | thank th0r |
| 09:31.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | so annoying but im through the worse now i think |
| 09:32.27 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, stop looking at it as a problem....look at it like a video game <smile> |
| 09:32.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont like video games.. |
| 09:32.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | lolol |
| 09:33.03 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, you never played Leather Goddesses of Phobos |
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| 09:34.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | nope hehe |
| 09:34.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | she sounds like a naughty mistresss |
| 09:34.58 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, Before your time I suppose...redefined adventure games |
| 09:35.19 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, was also the only game on the commander's laptop in The Martian |
| 09:35.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | really |
| 09:36.01 | th0r | Eryn_1983_FL, a trivia point only old guys would have caught |
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| 09:39.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | indeed |
| 09:39.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | long beards |
| 09:39.17 | th0r | grey beards |
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| 09:41.23 | phiwer | I have a question about debian packaging. Is this the right place, or is there a more specific channel for those questions? |
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| 10:01.46 | Mrbuck | Hi, there are some problems when installing virtualbox in debian1o |
| 10:02.30 | Mrbuck | we have virt-manager but how do I use vagrant with virt-manager |
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| 10:15.14 | RoyK | Mrbuck: what's wrong with kvm/libvirt/virt-manger? |
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| 10:18.16 | Mrbuck | RoyK: I never used them and I need to find respective vagrant boxes that support above |
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| 10:35.21 | RoyK | Mrbuck: vagrant? |
| 10:36.49 | Mrbuck | RoyK: https://www.vagrantup.com/ |
| 10:37.10 | Mrbuck | i would accept any alternative aswell |
| 10:37.21 | Mrbuck | wiil* |
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| 10:39.07 | RoyK | Mrbuck: just setup a vm with your faourite distro and download the package - shouldn't be that hard |
| 10:39.24 | RoyK | Mrbuck: they have packages for debian https://www.vagrantup.com/downloads.html |
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| 10:42.15 | Mrbuck | RoyK: vagrant act as bridge between host and guest |
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| 10:42.55 | RoyK | looks like normal software to me, only that you also can download it as a prepackage vm |
| 10:43.47 | Mrbuck | https://app.vagrantup.com/boxes/search |
| 10:43.53 | Mrbuck | i find libvirt images |
| 10:43.57 | Mrbuck | but not many |
| 10:44.16 | RoyK | just setup debian in a vm and download the deb package |
| 10:44.36 | RoyK | it's under "downloads" |
| 10:46.55 | Mrbuck | RoyK: Ialready have vagrant installed on my machine...now I need something like virtualbox to run vagrant boxes |
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| 10:47.40 | RoyK | then use virt-manager |
| 10:47.44 | RoyK | install debian |
| 10:47.51 | RoyK | download the vagrant package |
| 10:47.54 | RoyK | done |
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| 10:48.29 | RoyK | virt-manager can handle kvm, lxc and quite a few others |
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| 10:50.20 | neptuneP | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.38 | neptuneP | hello |
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| 10:51.18 | neptuneP | hi |
| 10:51.28 | neptuneP | it is regarding 10.11.1.75 machine |
| 10:51.41 | neptuneP | will you please help me? |
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| 10:53.05 | RoyK | !ask |
| 10:53.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:53.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys am i doing systemd wrong? i got actual file in /etc/systemd/system instead of links.. |
| 10:53.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | and systemd is saying they are masked and i cand unmask, these would be my samba mount services i made. |
| 10:54.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | df -h |
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| 10:57.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok i have to unmask systemctl unmask systemd-networkd.service |
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| 11:05.11 | Eryn_1983_FL | HOct 6 11:04:57 aries systemd[1]: media-sync_private.mount: Mount process exited, code=exited, status=32/n/a |
| 11:05.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | Oct 6 11:04:57 aries systemd[1]: media-sync_private.mount: Failed with result 'exit-code'. |
| 11:05.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | Oct 6 11:04:57 aries systemd[1]: Failed to mount Mount Share at boot. |
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| 11:05.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | it is not telling me much |
| 11:05.49 | zamuro | !flood |
| 11:05.49 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, ask me about <paste> |
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| 11:07.43 | mimi89999 | Hello |
| 11:08.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | sorry zamuro |
| 11:08.14 | mimi89999 | Is it possible to boot without the root parameter? |
| 11:08.37 | mimi89999 | I am mounting root in a very special way in initramfs. |
| 11:09.17 | mimi89999 | But if I set root=/dev/ram0, then I get an error because the device doesn't exist |
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| 11:10.24 | mimi89999 | If I don't set root, then I get `No root device specified. Boot arguments must include a root= parameter`. |
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| 11:12.41 | mimi89999 | Do I need to have a dummy root partition? |
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| 11:13.01 | mimi89999 | In theory I shouldn't because InitRamFS is exactly for that. |
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| 12:09.13 | Unit193 | _ioannis: I presume you did run 'apt update'? What's the output of apt-cache policy whateverpackage ? |
| 12:09.34 | _ioannis | yes I did , it's network-manager |
| 12:10.00 | _ioannis | hmm I think it only found it in buster I think |
| 12:10.05 | _ioannis | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.05 | _ioannis | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.13 | _ioannis | strange |
| 12:10.32 | _ioannis | cokpit for instance I just got from backports |
| 12:10.55 | _ioannis | to understand better, it's possible there is no backport 1.20 although in testing there is version 1.20? |
| 12:10.58 | Unit193 | It's not in Buster backports, from what rmadison is telling me. |
| 12:11.16 | _ioannis | oh is it possible to install 1.20 from testing regardless on Buster? |
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| 12:12.27 | Unit193 | Not the best idea. |
| 12:12.35 | _ioannis | ok that's good enough for me |
| 12:12.59 | _ioannis | there's a small bug/error I keep seeing in my logs but it doesn't affect my system in any ... observable way |
| 12:13.03 | Unit193 | You can either wait or requestt a backport. |
| 12:13.18 | _ioannis | so I can stick with it until there's a newer version out |
| 12:14.05 | _ioannis | hmm how does one request a backport? can you point me to any rsources on this? I'm sorry I'm still new :) |
| 12:15.46 | _ioannis | thank you for your time either way :) |
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| 12:18.14 | Unit193 | Bug report? |
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| 12:21.08 | _ioannis | tbh I rather have an error that causes no problem than risk getting a newer version with more bugs :D |
| 12:21.16 | _ioannis | so I'll just wait |
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| 12:25.48 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. How many times can my kitten step on the power button on my battery backup, which powers down my computer, before booting back to Debian becomes a mess? |
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| 12:26.19 | _ioannis | lol I would argue depending on what your computer is doing at the time? |
| 12:26.26 | _ioannis | what services you're running :D |
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| 12:26.49 | _ioannis | (also probably what kind of drive you're using) |
| 12:27.13 | _ioannis | by experience I wanna say a lot |
| 12:27.14 | Lady_Aleena | Thanks _ioannis. |
| 12:27.46 | _ioannis | we have a lot of power issues here and I've found Debian the most resiliant so far |
| 12:28.04 | _ioannis | but that's using SSD |
| 12:28.10 | Lady_Aleena | Well, my power issue is kitten feet. |
| 12:28.15 | Unit193 | Maybe cover the button... |
| 12:28.31 | _ioannis | yeah put something the kitteh doesn't like there or something |
| 12:28.46 | phogg | just 3d print a little plastic cap |
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| 12:29.11 | _ioannis | let's over-engineer something for the kitten |
| 12:29.25 | _ioannis | :P |
| 12:29.32 | Lady_Aleena | phogg, I'm using Debian because it is a free OS, so a 3D printer is too expensive. |
| 12:29.53 | phogg | Lady_Aleena: there are services out there. You can design a part, send it off to them, they print an ship it back |
| 12:30.00 | _ioannis | that's true. |
| 12:30.21 | _ioannis | so to understand better it steps on a UPS? |
| 12:30.22 | phogg | Lady_Aleena: but if you need cheap get some card stock and scissors. You can get much the same effect with a few cuts and folds, a little bit of tape |
| 12:30.23 | Lady_Aleena | I am hoping the cat gets too big to get back there sometime soonish. |
| 12:30.52 | Lady_Aleena | It has been about a month since it last happened. |
| 12:31.11 | _ioannis | I've seen a lot of types of UPS devices and I can't think of a way for a kitten to do it |
| 12:31.15 | _ioannis | how? :O |
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| 12:32.04 | Lady_Aleena | _ioannis, the kitten gets behind my computer, stands on the unit to play with the cables, and then steps on the button. |
| 12:32.28 | _ioannis | I would be more worried about the "playing with the cables" part :D |
| 12:32.36 | _ioannis | for both the PC and the kitten |
| 12:32.47 | _ioannis | yeah so definitely find a way to keep it away |
| 12:32.49 | _ioannis | :3 |
| 12:32.57 | Lady_Aleena | Maybe if she got a jolt, she would stay away from the cables. |
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| 12:33.37 | _ioannis | I know it's an animal and it's hard for it to understand but I generally rather teach an animal something with no pain |
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| 12:34.11 | Lady_Aleena | However, I grew up in a time where putting a key into a power socket was almost normal. Parents weren't so over protective back then. |
| 12:35.39 | Lady_Aleena | stuck a bobby pin into a power socket once, never again. 8) |
| 12:35.42 | Unit193 | I think we're straying off course. The answer to the question is "You should prevent the cat from getting back there" |
| 12:35.52 | _ioannis | ^ agreed. |
| 12:36.28 | Lady_Aleena | Unfortunately, there isn't an easy solution for that in this case. |
| 12:37.07 | brokencycle | Hi! I am having massive trouble with gmtp. It takes ages to connect my phone (30 minutes?), and it crashes on the earliest opportunity. Any ideas? |
| 12:37.18 | brokencycle | I'm on Buster, btw. |
| 12:38.06 | _ioannis | Lady_Aleena: join a pet group and ask for ideas there I'm guessing ? I don't currently even own a pet :( |
| 12:38.06 | brokencycle | But the problem has been persistent ever since I tried to use gmtp, probably in Lenny even. |
| 12:38.52 | Lady_Aleena | _ioannis, you don't own pets, pets own you. 8) |
| 12:39.03 | brokencycle | If I switch to a different virtual screen, then switch back, gmtp sort of starts over, as if I first invoked it. |
| 12:39.11 | _ioannis | hahah Lady_Aleena |
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| 12:43.01 | Unit193 | Wow, there's a new version of gmtp but no viable changelog, news file, nor release announcement...Can't tell if the version in testing might have a fix.. |
| 12:44.03 | Unit193 | Oh! It's just that old, cool. No, seems to be just French translation updates. |
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| 12:44.51 | xormor | what packages should I install from the standard repos? I am interested in using system tools. |
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| 13:01.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys im running lxd/lxc on my new debian buster and i cant get samba to mount properly, works on all my other hw systems and my old stretch lxc os |
| 13:01.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | https://paste.debian.net/1104893/ |
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| 13:03.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | really FUUU |
| 13:03.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | https://bayton.org/docs/linux/lxd/mount-cifssmb-shares-rw-in-lxd-containers/ |
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| 13:12.18 | rocketmagnet | hi everyone |
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| 13:13.24 | rocketmagnet | i have compiled python3.7 on my own and now have remove all files that are related to python3.7, how can i make dpkg or apt reinstall python3.7 ? |
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| 13:17.57 | nkuttler | rocketmagnet: you mean you deleted package files while deleting your custom install? |
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| 13:19.15 | rocketmagnet | i compiled python on my own and delete all python files and now apt thinks it's still installed, how can i tell apt that it's not installed anymore so i can reinstall it ? |
| 13:20.05 | nkuttler | rocketmagnet: you could purge all the packages and reinstall them |
| 13:21.22 | rocketmagnet | that throws me an error: sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory |
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| 13:22.44 | rocketmagnet | isn't there a way to tell dpkg that the files are all gone and need a relinstall ? |
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| 13:28.40 | nkuttler | rocketmagnet: well, cd to a location that exists. also when you get an error, please paste the command you used + output |
| 13:28.48 | nkuttler | rocketmagnet: see also /topic |
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| 13:29.04 | nkuttler | ah. wait.. |
| 13:29.24 | nkuttler | rocketmagnet: you can also dpkg -i --force-foo packages, see --force-help |
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| 13:32.32 | rocketmagnet | where does dpkg saves which packes are installed and which are not ? |
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| 13:46.38 | n_1-c_k | rocketmagnet, /var/lib/dpkg/status, I think. |
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| 13:49.45 | trui | this is why i'm going to learn how to make packages if i ever want to install something i compiled. |
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| 14:45.51 | eb0t | maybe try apt install --reinstall python3.7 |
| 14:46.19 | eb0t | that may not work as it would fail to uninstall the package |
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| 15:04.35 | ychaouche | Hello #debian |
| 15:04.59 | ychaouche | how do I go about installing an info file for a specific software ? (for example grub) |
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| 15:12.17 | LtL | ychaouche: the info package should cover that, 'apt show info' notice the suggests. |
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| 15:14.20 | ychaouche | I have a info file for grub-legacy, but I don't know if that's the version used by this system. |
| 15:14.39 | ychaouche | grub --version says 0.97 |
| 15:15.12 | Ede|Popede | those for grub2 come with grub2-common, can be tricky to find out which are in what package |
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| 15:20.09 | ychaouche | how do I find out which grub this machine uses ? |
| 15:20.42 | LtL | ychaouche: try dpkg -l |grep grub* |
| 15:20.44 | ychaouche | It doesn't seem to have any command that starts with grub2 |
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| 15:22.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | screams into a pillow, and punches it |
| 15:22.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | freaking LXD is pissing me off, |
| 15:22.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | i followed the rules, i did the howto, |
| 15:22.27 | LtL | ychaouche: the even if grub2 is in use the grub* commands all begin with grub not grub2 |
| 15:22.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | still wont let me write to a samba share, |
| 15:22.44 | Eryn_1983_FL | thats all i wanna do. |
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| 15:23.42 | ychaouche | well it has both versions installed (0.97 and 2.02 beta) |
| 15:24.00 | ychaouche | grub is 0.97 and grub-common is 2.02 beta |
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| 15:25.52 | bernyrd | hey has anyone used switched PCIe to NVMe adapter? obviously there is multiplexing involved so lower bandwidth, but I am unsure if this cuts into drive speed |
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| 15:26.37 | bernyrd | like you can get x16 to 4x NVMe drive, and it is one x4 per NVMe, but there are few company that sell x8 to 4x NVMe (as opposed to usual 2) |
| 15:26.44 | bernyrd | has active silicon |
| 15:27.16 | LtL | ychaouche: you must have grub-legacy, mine grub installs are shown here, http://paste.debian.net/1104902/ |
| 15:28.04 | LtL | ychaouche: if it boots i wouldn't worry about it |
| 15:28.40 | ychaouche | LtL, I need to add an option to linux b/c I started having errors that are filling my syslog and other log files |
| 15:29.03 | ychaouche | I don't know what's the proper way to permanently add the boot options |
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| 15:29.55 | LtL | ychaouche: probably in /etc/default/grub |
| 15:30.33 | ychaouche | ok thanks LtL |
| 15:30.49 | ychaouche | I think I'll take it my case to #grub tomorrow |
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| 15:33.05 | VG234 | How can I remove this package: http://ppa.launchpad.net/rmescandon/yq/ubuntu/dists/eoan/main/binary-amd64/Packages It's preventing me from updating the OS. |
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| 15:35.19 | LtL | VG234: asking in #ubuntu would be wise |
| 15:35.39 | VG234 | I'm on debian. |
| 15:35.42 | asmos01 | Welcome. I have a problem. I migrated from Ubuntu to something lighter. I have Debian Stable. I read about backports. I would like newer versions of programs. Can you give me the name of the repository for this? Because on the Internet there are different names for these packages. |
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| 15:37.13 | VG234 | LtL: NAME="Debian GNU/Linux", VERSION="9 (stretch)" |
| 15:37.19 | LtL | VG234: that URL doesn't exist |
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| 15:37.35 | VG234 | LtL correct. That's why I can't update. |
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| 15:38.03 | LtL | VG234: if you use ppa's we can't help |
| 15:38.35 | VG234 | I tried to install yq. I'd like to remove it. |
| 15:39.16 | LtL | VG234: # apt remove yq would be my choice |
| 15:39.57 | VG234 | LtL: E: Unable to locate package yq |
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| 15:41.25 | VG234 | No matter what I do it keeps trying to look for that package. |
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| 15:42.38 | LtL | VG234: what does it do, or what was it for? |
| 15:43.04 | somiaj | does dpkg -l | grep yq return any package? |
| 15:43.39 | LtL | ,file copyq |
| 15:43.41 | VG234 | LtL: It is a wrapper for jq. It parses json and ouput yaml. |
| 15:43.44 | judd | Search for copyq in buster/amd64: copyq: usr/bin/copyq; copyq-doc: usr/share/doc-base/copyq |
| 15:44.13 | VG234 | LtL: I think I found the source.list that is causing the issue. One min. |
| 15:44.36 | somiaj | !don't break debian |
| 15:44.36 | dpkg | methinks dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 15:44.48 | somiaj | VG234: ^^ you may want to read that on good practices to keep from breaking debian in the future |
| 15:45.26 | trui | yeah, i was just going to link that. it's a bit late now, but for next time! :) |
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| 15:51.01 | VG234 | OK. I remove the call for it. My update now at least passes. My upgrade at least has no errors: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 15:51.29 | VG234 | Is there anything I should check? Also, I use sudo with apt-get, should I be doing that? |
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| 15:52.52 | LtL | VG234: apt or apt-get is okay, apt-get has more super cow options |
| 15:54.13 | VG234 | Is debain 9 stretch where I want to be? I'm on windows using WSL. |
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| 15:56.05 | LtL | VG234: stretch is oldstable, buster v9 is stablle. as for WSL.. no idea. |
| 15:56.22 | LtL | err buster v10 |
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| 15:58.12 | VG234 | So, I should use snap? Do I install that with apt-get? |
| 15:58.58 | trui | you don't need snap or anything. it all depends on what you want it for |
| 15:59.38 | trui | what do you want out of your wsl debian? |
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| 16:02.15 | VG234 | trui: Basically, I'd like to have it work the same or better than my Cygwin under windows7. It's seems to be better in some ways. Currently, I'm working with Json and Yaml doing DevOps work. That is why I want the yq tool. This is what broke it: https://github.com/mikefarah/yq. |
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| 16:03.51 | VG234 | I already use Debian under gnuroot on my phone for programming, etc. So, it was a natural choice for WSL, I thought. |
| 16:04.34 | trui | had you tried ubuntu first? |
| 16:04.54 | VG234 | trui: No. |
| 16:05.04 | LtL | VG234: look at yamllint you should have it in your repo's |
| 16:05.44 | LtL | VG234: apt show yamllint |
| 16:05.54 | VG234 | LtL: I have that, but it's not the same. It doesn't slice and dice yaml. |
| 16:06.12 | VG234 | LtL: at least, I don't think it does. |
| 16:06.55 | trui | ah, i was wondering due to the above. but yeah, debian and ubuntu are different. i think ubuntu has been pushing snaps more lately iirc |
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| 16:08.49 | VG234 | trui: The things I need to do is to be able to train myself across DevOps tools and cloud environments. I plan to do this using python, terraform, aws, etc.. Each brings with it the need to learn and use different sub tools. |
| 16:09.17 | LtL | VG234: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/yaml-tips # this may help. |
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| 16:10.45 | VG234 | LtL: That's helpful. Thanks. |
| 16:11.04 | LtL | VG234: good luck |
| 16:12.09 | VG234 | As a last question: I've basically shut off some packages such as yq and virtualbox in their source.lists. Should I follow that pattern instead of trying to remove them? Sometimes, I can't remove packages. |
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| 16:13.02 | somiaj | did you read that don't break debian link? You should be very careful when adding thrid party repos to your system. |
| 16:13.12 | somiaj | Some are compadable with debian, but many are not, or have poor quality packages. |
| 16:13.34 | VG234 | somiaj: Yes. That is why I asked about snap. |
| 16:13.39 | somiaj | virtualbox has an okay repo that is compadable with debian, so that would be fine, but ppa's shoudl be avoided. |
| 16:14.11 | somiaj | I personally don't use snap or flakpack or any of these tools, I really try to stick to software that is in debian, it does contain most things one will want, and compile stuff from source that isn't tehre. |
| 16:14.20 | VG234 | somiaj: ð |
| 16:15.14 | somiaj | linux distros aren't like windows were one can jsut download random software from random sites and expect it to be compadable and work. |
| 16:15.44 | somiaj | snap/flatpak are ways to try to improve this, but I haven't found a need for such things, but my software needs are simple compared to most (I don't even use a DE) |
| 16:16.46 | VG234 | somiaj: That can be an lengthy path. From the unix book I have, Porting Unix software it states something like, someone comes into your office and ask you to port something to another OS, "Obviously, killing them is out of the question". This always make me laugh, but the amount of work is true. |
| 16:17.56 | somiaj | I wans't talking about porting here, I was just talking about downloading random binaries that run on the linux kernel |
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| 16:18.17 | somiaj | which is why I use the solution of compiling software that I need which doesn't have a binary provided for debian. |
| 16:18.32 | VG234 | somiaj: Yes, but you said you were building them. |
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| 16:18.56 | somiaj | yea, just download the source and compile it, that is way differnt than porting in my mind |
| 16:19.10 | somiaj | and most source comes with nice configure and make scripts to automate the process |
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| 16:19.49 | VG234 | somiaj: If they work and the tools are supported on the system, yes. |
| 16:20.40 | somiaj | often the biggest issue with ranodom binaries is linux uses the shared libary approach, vs static linked liabaries. That is what flatpack/snap does, but it makes binaries way larger |
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| 16:21.05 | somiaj | so if you compile it against the libaries you have it often works (though depends on the actual software, really well written software works well) |
| 16:21.45 | VG234 | somiaj: At the moment, space is cheap. I'll take a look at snap. |
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| 16:22.48 | VG234 | I have other question, but I'll come back later and ask. Thanks for the help everyone. |
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| 16:24.25 | trui | i am curious if you can upgrade to debian 10 on windows 10, but i don't have windows and couldn't be bothered to install it anyways |
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| 16:27.07 | somiaj | trui: that question makes no sense? Are you talking about using windows WSL or whatever? |
| 16:28.02 | trui | they said they're using debian 9 on wsl, so i wondered how upgrading to buster would go |
| 16:28.21 | somiaj | it would probably work just like anywhere else |
| 16:28.42 | somiaj | WLS is some sort of strange vm method, and upgrades would work just fine |
| 16:28.51 | trui | yeah, i'd assume so. but i can't check myself |
| 16:30.05 | trui | iirc wsl 1 is like reverse WINE, and wsl 2 is what you said |
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| 16:31.54 | somiaj | I personally like vms, but I guess WSL is for those who need to develope stuff on linux but don't need a full vm while using windows. |
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| 16:35.49 | laptop | hi |
| 16:35.57 | laptop | I wish there was a rolling release debian |
| 16:36.32 | trui | have you tried debian sid/unstable? |
| 16:37.17 | laptop | no has anyone tried it and did it work from stretch to buster |
| 16:37.23 | trui | it's certainly rolling enough. too rolling for lots |
| 16:37.39 | somiaj | !moving target |
| 16:37.40 | dpkg | Sure, testing might be shinier than stable, but are you prepared to be continually updating your system? Things that worked today will break tomorrow. Configuration file formats will change and you'll have to fold your changes in yet again. Testing is a moving target and if you'd rather work *with* your computer than working *on* your computer, you might not want that. See <testing security>. |
| 16:37.57 | somiaj | It really isn't a release, but it is constantly being upgraded, with all new bugs included. |
| 16:38.31 | somiaj | and many people use testing/sid, and if you use it, learn to use the BTS and report bugs, it is users of testing/unstable that help prepare debian for its release |
| 16:38.56 | laptop | I wondering if anyone has any experience with unstable |
| 16:39.01 | laptop | testing is semirolling |
| 16:39.22 | somiaj | laptop: I woudln't use that lagnuage, testing doesn't get security support, which can be a big deal |
| 16:39.39 | somiaj | unstable doesnt' either, but often when a security hole is found a new package is added to unstable to fix it. |
| 16:39.57 | somiaj | laptop: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is where testing/unstable discussion and support is |
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| 16:41.11 | laptop | it is invite only |
| 16:41.41 | somiaj | read what I said more closely |
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| 16:43.46 | phiwer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:46.57 | laptop | how do I get there from hexchat |
| 16:47.25 | somiaj | you need to join a different irc network, might be /server or something like that |
| 16:48.03 | laptop | nvm found it |
| 16:48.04 | laptop | thank you |
| 16:48.24 | laptop | siduction is the only active debian rolling i could find btw |
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| 17:29.40 | dpkg | From 2006 to 2016, Mozilla Firefox was known as "Iceweasel" in Debian because Mozilla would not permit Debian to use the Firefox name. Firefox packages are now available for both jessie and sid; Firefox in Debian <stable> follows the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. For the latest versions, ask me about <mozilla.debian.net>. |
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| 17:33.41 | dpkg | From 2006 to 2016, Mozilla Firefox was known as "Iceweasel" in Debian because Mozilla would not permit Debian to use the Firefox name. Firefox packages are now available for both jessie and sid; Firefox in Debian <stable> follows the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. For the latest versions, ask me about <mozilla.debian.net>. |
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| 17:36.04 | oholter | exit |
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| 17:40.58 | dpkg | From 2006 to 2016, Mozilla Firefox was known as "Iceweasel" in Debian because Mozilla would not permit Debian to use the Firefox name. Firefox packages are now available for both jessie and sid; Firefox in Debian <stable> follows the Extended Support Release (ESR) branch. For the latest versions, ask me about <mozilla.debian.net>. |
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| 18:08.03 | Gigglebyte | Is there a way to expand a separator so that it expands all the way across instead of just a segment of the bottom menu bar in xfce4? I recall in the past there was a way to adjust how much a separator could be expanded, and now I have to use three separators to move things over. It takes longer to load, and I am already on a laptop that is a bit short in horsepower. |
| 18:08.25 | Gigglebyte | I am on Debian Stable Stretch. |
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| 18:13.00 | primvibes | I apologize for taking advantage of the excellent debian community to solve an issue on kali-rolling, but my situation is desperate. I'm in a remote location, my phone broke yesterday and today something went wrong during dist-upgrade, which rendered the system unusable. The only tools I have is on recovery mode: logs, lynx for internet, irssi and tmux. Telinit can only bring the system up to runlevel |
| 18:13.06 | primvibes | 3. I'm only an intermediate user and cannot see anything wrong in the logs, not that I understand much about video drivers. Regular boot gives a black screen with a mouse cursor and Alt+Fn2-12 doesn't work. I've tried reconfiguring all packages and reinstalling the linux headers and images, with no success. Please help |
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| 18:17.28 | _ioannis | unfortunately don't know enough to help out primvibes |
| 18:17.29 | _ioannis | gl |
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| 18:22.16 | primvibes | would you mind if I keep posting this here every hour while I try to fix it? |
| 18:23.47 | jhutchins | primvibes: We'd really rather you didn't. You'll probably have to repeat whatever steps you did for the initial installation, but for assistance and support you're going to have to rely on the slower response and smaller community of kali supporters. |
| 18:23.59 | jhutchins | primvibes: You will probably want to try their mailing list. |
| 18:24.03 | jhutchins | !kali |
| 18:24.03 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 18:31.28 | _ioannis | love that how-to |
| 18:31.29 | _ioannis | haahh |
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| 18:37.25 | madage | primvibes: see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/10/msg00252.html |
| 18:38.19 | madage | at least your description seems to be similar |
| 18:38.55 | madage | and someone gave a work around |
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| 18:50.01 | centrix | from within the 10.1 docker image "apt search nginx" returns nothing. Shouldn't it return some packages? |
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| 18:51.06 | centrix | the /etc/apt/sources.list contains "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main" among others. |
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| 18:59.59 | karlpinc | centrix: maybe an "apt update" has never been done? |
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| 19:03.52 | centrix | karlpinc, Looks like that was it :) |
| 19:03.55 | centrix | Thanks |
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| 19:15.38 | Gigglebyte | Is anyone alive and BREATHING!!! |
| 19:16.00 | gekketinus | any easy guide to follow on debian image + wifi and codec? |
| 19:16.00 | ciciolina | yep! :V |
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| 19:19.48 | saptech | probably debian non-free images |
| 19:20.48 | gekketinus | i got one on usb but after install what i got to do i mean |
| 19:21.05 | gekketinus | configure wifi etc |
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| 19:22.21 | saptech | I guess install the firmware for your wifi card |
| 19:22.27 | Gigglebyte | forgot to mention I am trying to adjust suspend settings in the command line with stretch (Debian 9). Can't figure it out. |
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| 19:34.31 | Gigglebyte | solved power manager problem. Never mind |
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| 19:40.06 | CarlFK | I'm adding docs to gst's build instructions. is this an OK way to add to PATH? printf '\nexport PATH=${PATH}:~/.local/bin\n' >> ~/.bashrc |
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| 19:41.08 | CarlFK | currently it says (for all platforms) https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-build/#install-meson-and-ninja "$ pip3 install --user meson This will install meson into ~/.local/bin..." |
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| 19:42.10 | CarlFK | so I'm not sure I want to suggest using the package manager when on debian. I'm not sure that's better |
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| 19:43.46 | rwp | It's a problem. Because there are so many hackers on Windows and Mac OS and they do not have good package managers. So upstream communities often disparage downstream packages. |
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| 19:45.01 | rwp | On the good side pip --user should only touch $HOME and nothing else. So the system is safe from it. On the bad side people forget they have done that and then later we are debugging why their system has some old package being used instead of the one installed. |
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| 19:48.15 | CarlFK | yeah, not sure I like using ~/.local/bin vs a python virtual env |
| 19:48.25 | CarlFK | for this case. |
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| 20:02.51 | primvibes | madage: you're a lifesaver, the workaround was a success. In future I'll need to pay closer attantion to debian testing bugs, since that's what kali is based on. |
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| 20:15.34 | Encrypt | Hello everyone! |
| 20:16.08 | Encrypt | I'm currently struggling to make NFS (v4) work between a Raspberry Pi and my Debian 9 computer, with differet UID/GIDs (therefore, with idmapd) |
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| 20:26.38 | blastwave | The usual odd problem wherein after a reboot there is audio for some applications and none for Firefox. The tool 'Pulse Audio Volume Control' seems to not help here at all and the alsamixer also does not help. Does pulseaudio need a reset or what could be the issue ?? |
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| 20:28.31 | blastwave | oh also .. screensave locks up the whole XFCE desktop so badly I needed to hook up a reset button to the motherboard front panel .. that can't be right |
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| 20:35.43 | rwp | blastwave, I sometimes have to tell Firefox video to un-mute. I think it saves muted as a default sometimes. |
| 20:36.39 | blastwave | hrmmm .. let me check |
| 20:36.43 | rwp | That screensaver problem sounds nasty. I would be disabling the screensaver as quickly as I could! (I don't use them by default. I just blank the screen here.) |
| 20:37.04 | blastwave | oh also .. yes the screensaver really caught me by surprise |
| 20:37.18 | blastwave | I would like to entirely remove the screensaver from the machine config |
| 20:37.28 | blastwave | if I could just figure out what package it is |
| 20:37.39 | rwp | I have two systems here with XFCE but with just blanking and hadn't noticed any problems. |
| 20:37.43 | blastwave | most likely dpkg-query wwill help me here |
| 20:38.12 | blastwave | k .. well in my case blanking kicks in after ten minutes and the machine becomes non-responsive even to a num-lock key |
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| 20:39.02 | rwp | Curious... What graphics card are you using? |
| 20:39.35 | blastwave | NVidia Quadro K4200 and nvidia-smi shows the driver has not changed since last apt-get update or reboot .. seems to be working greak |
| 20:39.38 | blastwave | gret |
| 20:39.44 | blastwave | great <-- spelling is an issue for me |
| 20:39.50 | rwp | laughs |
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| 20:40.06 | blastwave | damn .. I have no idea how to 'unmute' firefox which should not be muted |
| 20:40.36 | rwp | If the kernel upgrades and there isn't a reboot then I have had random problems with modules that are then mismatched between the running older kernel and the newer on disk files. |
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| 20:40.54 | blastwave | am trying to test with my own stream from twitch https://www.twitch.tv/videos/490845376 <-- running debian sid here and audio didn't work at all from Firefox |
| 20:41.22 | blastwave | hrmm kernel mismatch on the kernel modules for nvidia ? sounds unlikely |
| 20:41.24 | rwp | Un-mute example: Play a youtube video. Mouse around the video window. The audio is muted. Un-mute. That's what I find I sometimes need to do. Even when *I* haven't muted it. |
| 20:41.35 | blastwave | I am using the debian packages here and not the drivers from NVidia |
| 20:42.16 | blastwave | goes to youtube |
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| 20:42.33 | rwp | I just tested both Firefox and Chromium on that URL and had sound both times. For me. Just a data point. |
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| 20:42.46 | blastwave | okay .. good to know |
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| 20:43.02 | rwp | Good on using the Debian packages. But that may still be out of sync version wise after a package upgrade and before a reboot to the new kernel. |
| 20:43.08 | blastwave | there were a lot of people watching live as I destroyed a hard disk while a machine was runnng ... saturday evening fun |
| 20:43.25 | rwp | Ha! |
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| 20:43.45 | blastwave | nope .. I can not unmute Firefox |
| 20:43.55 | blastwave | no idea even where to look for mute on Firefox |
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| 20:44.02 | blastwave | this is Firefox 'nightly' also |
| 20:44.43 | blastwave | okay .. time to check the ol apt-get update and app-get dist-upgrade etc |
| 20:44.57 | rwp | I have an audio icon in the lower control area of the video. Left most is pause. Next is audio. |
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| 20:45.22 | blastwave | yep .. that slider works fine and does nothing |
| 20:45.42 | blastwave | let me check if puleaudio even knows that the application Firefox is runnng |
| 20:45.53 | rwp | It was worth a try anyway. Because that is where I often find it muted. |
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| 20:46.11 | blastwave | wow $ pulseaudio --kill results in E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process |
| 20:46.16 | blastwave | that can't be good |
| 20:46.26 | rwp | really hates pulseaudio |
| 20:46.37 | blastwave | everyone hates pulseaudio |
| 20:46.48 | rwp | It's been a source of a lot of problems. But I know you said that you also tried alsamixer too and didn't have success. |
| 20:46.51 | blastwave | people that love it are demented |
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| 20:48.35 | blastwave | okay so a data point .. fire up VLC and a Star Trek re-run works perfectly with audio |
| 20:48.41 | blastwave | only Firefox is an issue I think |
| 20:48.42 | LtL | blastwave: maybe try starting pulse? pulseaudio --start |
| 20:48.55 | blastwave | yep .. just did pulseaudio --start |
| 20:49.06 | blastwave | even did rm -rf .config/pulse/ before that |
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| 20:50.28 | blastwave | okay .. get this ... I start up VLC and get Star Trek running ... playing and it sounds fine .. the pulse audio control shows VLC as a valid application |
| 20:50.56 | rwp | if you suspect that it might be a file in $HOME somewhere... then you can always create a new test user and log in as that pristine new test user and see if the pristine files work. If so then you know it is is some config file in your $HOME causing the problem. |
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| 20:51.53 | SerajewelKS | is there some tool like dd but that understands ext4 and will only transfer used blocks? |
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| 20:52.55 | blastwave | SerajewelKS: you are looking to transfer a filesystem from one disk to another and only grab the data ?? See Jorg Schillings 'star' |
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| 20:53.14 | rwp | SerajewelKS, Opens up the box of Pandora and mentions that ZFS will sync and being a file system it knows exactly which blocks need to be transferred. Really very cool. |
| 20:53.34 | blastwave | well ZFS is awesome of course |
| 20:53.42 | rwp | Or do you mean sparse files? |
| 20:53.46 | blastwave | however he is on ext4fs from the distant dark path |
| 20:54.15 | rwp | I did say I was reaching into "the box". And down that path we all go one day... :-) |
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| 20:54.19 | blastwave | damn it ... https://i.imgur.com/HJzhK61.png pulseaudio only recognizes VLC andd not Firefox ... baffling |
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| 20:55.26 | SerajewelKS | the context is migrating an existing volume into luks. as a security consideration, the device luks is used on should be random-filled before adding a filesystem. obviously this only affects the unused space of a filesystem that has been used. so the logical way to do it would be: random-fill the underlying device, create the luks container, copy only the used blocks into the container. |
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| 20:55.55 | SerajewelKS | however, i just realized that i'm using pvmove so that doesn't matter; lvm doesn't have a mechanism to do that anyway. |
| 20:55.57 | blastwave | I have no idea what " luks " is |
| 20:56.05 | SerajewelKS | !luks |
| 20:56.05 | dpkg | Linux Unified Key Setup (LUKS) is a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ . To access on Microsoft Windows systems, see http://sf.net/projects/freeotfe.mirror/ and <ext2read>. |
| 20:56.23 | blastwave | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.27 | rwp | Nice blastwave. Two side by side monitors. But only 1080 vertical pixels is too short for me. I would rotate both 90 degrees! :-) |
| 20:56.36 | blastwave | " platform-independent format " even better |
| 20:56.43 | SerajewelKS | blastwave: if pulse does not notice firefox then the logical conclusion is that firefox is not talking to pulse |
| 20:56.54 | blastwave | rwp: well a rotation on one of the is not easy |
| 20:57.03 | blastwave | it is a PQLabs massive touch screen |
| 20:57.11 | blastwave | the other is a normal 24inch monitor |
| 20:57.25 | blastwave | SerajewelKS: k .. and what next ? |
| 20:57.49 | SerajewelKS | blastwave: hmm, you'd have to figure out what firefox is using. my guess would be alsa, and that alsa is not configured to use pulse. |
| 20:58.17 | rwp | My solution is usually to purge all pulse audio from the system. And then everything Just Works. |
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| 20:58.27 | SerajewelKS | you could test this theory by using something else that only talks to alsa (or can be configured to) |
| 20:58.48 | SerajewelKS | e.g. if you run a command-line ALSA client with no device switches, does it show up in pavucontrol? |
| 20:58.57 | SerajewelKS | aplay for example |
| 20:59.20 | rwp | SerajewelKS, If you are doing pvmove then I think internally it will copy the entire size of the source partition no way to avoid it. Pretty sure. |
| 20:59.21 | SerajewelKS | if it does not then the likely explanation is that firefox is using alsa and alsa is not using pulse |
| 20:59.33 | blastwave | wow ... I killed FF and then restarted it .. *now* even youtube video doesn't work |
| 20:59.37 | SerajewelKS | rwp: right that's what i meant by "lvm doesn't have a mechanism to do that anyway" |
| 20:59.44 | blastwave | time to go back to normal release firefox to test |
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| 20:59.56 | rwp | blastwave, Good plan. |
| 21:00.02 | SerajewelKS | rwp: the plan is to do it online. ext4 in LVM in md-raid raid1. |
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| 21:00.32 | rwp | SerajewelKS, I do like LVM and pvmove. It makes upgrading disk sizes to larger disks very simple. All on the fly while the system is running too. FTW! :-) |
| 21:01.02 | SerajewelKS | rwp: so this would mean: failing a disk from the raid1, creating a new (degraded) raid1 on that disk, creating a luks container on the new raid1 with a detached luks header in /boot (so that the header doesn't eat space, otherwise i have to shrink the volume which can't be done online) |
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| 21:01.32 | SerajewelKS | rwp: add the container as a PV to the VG, pvmove everything off of the old PV, tear down the old raid1, put the disk from that mirror into the new mirror |
| 21:01.52 | SerajewelKS | obviously there is no redundancy for the duration |
| 21:02.11 | rwp | Question: Can you add an additional disk? (Avoids the need to degrade the raid and then no need for the detached header.) |
| 21:02.39 | SerajewelKS | the additional disk would prevent degredation but would not alleviate the need for detached header unless you are suggesting reshape to raid5 |
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| 21:03.18 | rwp | I work with lvm quite a bit but only work with luks and encrypted volumes using the debian-installer to create them on installation. |
| 21:03.24 | blastwave | also going to blow away the FireFox profile on disk |
| 21:03.32 | rwp | save your bookmarks |
| 21:03.51 | SerajewelKS | if keeping it as raid1 then the final device size is still the same |
| 21:03.57 | SerajewelKS | you'd need some extra KBs for the header |
| 21:04.22 | rwp | I will take your word for it. I haven't worked with that part of things. |
| 21:04.36 | rwp | Your overall plan sounds good to me. Seems well thought out and should work. |
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| 21:04.55 | SerajewelKS | well the concept is simple: luks needs to store metadata somewhere. it usually stores it in the underlying device, which obviously means the mapped container is a bit smaller than the existing device. |
| 21:05.09 | SerajewelKS | so adding luks reduces the size of the device by the amount needed to store the header |
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| 21:05.52 | rwp | Right. So I would make the new partition slightly smaller in order to free up space. Then pvmove onto it. But I almost never allocate 100% of a VG. |
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| 21:06.07 | SerajewelKS | right that's the problem is that this PV is 100% allocated |
| 21:06.13 | blastwave | wow .. stable FireFox "Quantum" normal download does not work at all .. no youtube video and no audio |
| 21:06.14 | SerajewelKS | the other PV isn't redundant |
| 21:06.17 | blastwave | nice |
| 21:06.19 | rwp | And if I did then I would *temporarily* add an additional disk to make up the extra. Then compact back down to the right size as an additional step. |
| 21:06.35 | SerajewelKS | "compact back down" requires downtime to resize the ext4 volume |
| 21:06.44 | blastwave | considers a reboot .. the last resort |
| 21:06.49 | SerajewelKS | wait. wait, no... no i can do this without detached header. |
| 21:07.00 | SerajewelKS | the redundant PV also contains the swap volume |
| 21:07.08 | SerajewelKS | i'll just steal some swap space for the luks header |
| 21:07.15 | rwp | I cannot recommend ever downsizing an ext* volume. I once tried that and it took more than 10 days (12 days?) to run to completion. |
| 21:07.34 | SerajewelKS | yep that's why i wanted to avoid it by using detached header but i'll just shrink swap instead |
| 21:07.48 | rwp | I let it run and it did eventually finish. I imagine some exponential algorthm that could be optimized inside there somewhere. |
| 21:07.50 | blastwave | thinks .. use ZFS |
| 21:08.17 | SerajewelKS | i'd love to temporarily have a third disk for redundancy but i don't have a 6TB sitting around. nor any combination of disks i could combine into 6TB |
| 21:08.18 | rwp | Now I copy everything off to a new file system file by file. |
| 21:08.37 | SerajewelKS | blastwave: i'll add a tick in the box that counts the number of times that's been suggested to me, thanks |
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| 21:08.52 | rwp | I thought that you must not have been able to add an additional disk or you would have done it that way instead. |
| 21:09.09 | blastwave | SerajewelKS: it is almost as if the world is whispering to you .. but I apologize |
| 21:09.22 | SerajewelKS | blastwave: i did my research on ZFS. not for me at this time. |
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| 21:09.39 | blastwave | goes back to locked battle with Firefox and pulseaudio |
| 21:09.41 | SerajewelKS | i've also had people suggesting btrfs |
| 21:09.46 | SerajewelKS | i take them even less seriously :P |
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| 21:10.14 | SerajewelKS | but generally yeah not gonna convert an entire system to a new filesystem just because it might make things easier. that's exactly the kind of project that isn't easy to begin with. |
| 21:10.34 | rwp | I am in a position now with a system with only 2 SATA ports total and 2x 1T drives. I think for that system upgrade I am going to shutdown, pull both disks, install in a 4-port SATA system, add two new disks, partition, mdadm raid, pvcreate, pvmove, everything else is online, move data to the new disks. Then shutdown and shuffle the disks back into the original 2-SATA system again. |
| 21:11.08 | SerajewelKS | rwp: if the SATA controller is hotswap you can do it online if you don't mind degredation. assuming you have a mirror right now. |
| 21:11.21 | SerajewelKS | this is how i grew this system from 3TB to 6TB |
| 21:11.29 | rwp | Love the hot swap SATA capability. |
| 21:11.32 | SerajewelKS | yep |
| 21:12.22 | SerajewelKS | fail drive 3TB A, swap in drive 6TB C. add C to mirror, wait for resync. fail drive 3TB B, swap in drive 6TB D. add D to mirror, wait for resync. tell mdadm to resize the array. resize2fs. |
| 21:12.23 | rwp | But moving from 2x 1T disks to 2x larger disks (TBD) and would prefer not to need to break the raid while doing it. And I have a 4-port SATA system available for the use. So might as well make my life easier and use it. |
| 21:12.36 | SerajewelKS | with the extra step of growing the LV anyway |
| 21:13.01 | SerajewelKS | if you have a 1TB USB drive you could use that temporarily too. flag it write-mostly. |
| 21:13.25 | rwp | SerajewelKS, Sounds like a plan. It's a Towers of Hanoi process but works within the system you have. Good deal. |
| 21:13.28 | blastwave | rwp: fyi --> Alsa support was dropped starting Firefox 52.0 and later. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1199433 |
| 21:13.34 | SerajewelKS | assuming its actual capacity is really >= the rest of the drives |
| 21:13.55 | somiaj | I belive debian's packages still contain alsa support, it was just mozilla's package that droped that build config |
| 21:14.04 | rwp | Yes. I could add a USB disk. However I have not had the best of luck with USB drives for some reason. Probably my proclivity of buying cheap crappy USB adapters. So probably self-inflicted. But that makes me shy away from them. |
| 21:14.08 | blastwave | ahhh .. good to know |
| 21:14.08 | somiaj | AT least it was that way for a while, unsure if it has changed. |
| 21:14.09 | rwp | External eSATA is perfect though. |
| 21:14.19 | blastwave | ponders ice weasel |
| 21:14.31 | SerajewelKS | rwp: i have a couple of odroid-hc2's that i can use in cases like this, when a system has no extra drive bays but i need to add a drive either temporarily or permanently. throw a drive in the hc2 and export it over iscsi. |
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| 21:15.10 | SerajewelKS | rwp: FWIW my backup volume is a set of mirrored 2TB USB drives. haven't had any issues. raid has been intact since i set it up months ago. |
| 21:15.26 | blastwave | sees that Debian release FireFox ESR and that will work fine ! |
| 21:15.28 | Maws | hi!, is there any way to get this mod loaded: "snx: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. |
| 21:15.28 | Maws | [ 3.747271] snx: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel |
| 21:15.28 | Maws | " |
| 21:15.30 | rwp | SerajewelKS, That sounds cool! I should look into something like that. |
| 21:15.58 | SerajewelKS | rwp: iscsi is supported by linux (open-iscsi in debian) and, i didn't realize until recently, windows 10 has a built-in iscsi client as well. i figured that would be a server feature. |
| 21:16.20 | rwp | I had a dual disk USB adapter that I used for a while. But it would drop offline every so often. In a 3 month window many twice. Never stayed online more than 4 months. |
| 21:16.55 | SerajewelKS | rwp: it makes all kinds of options available. i really hate windows' idea of mirrored disks. so i can do the mirroring on a debian system and export the raid device over iscsi. windows doesn't know or care about the raid. |
| 21:17.05 | rwp | On the other hand I have had really good luck with USB network adapters. I expected them to be trouble. But actually they have been very reliable when I have used them. |
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| 21:18.12 | rwp | blastwave, somiaj, I am using Debian's Firefox 60 esr with alsa okay and everything works. But good to know if it was dropped upstream. |
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| 21:19.00 | rwp | Cool information SerajewelKS but now you have given me even more work to do! Because now I must try it and add it to the toolbox. |
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| 21:19.58 | SerajewelKS | rwp: in my case i'm using it to add storage for a machine i use as a hypervisor for qemu-kvm VMs. it's particularly nice because qemu supports iscsi as backing for a virtual disk. |
| 21:20.28 | SerajewelKS | rwp: so i don't even have to configure iscsi on the host machine. i just add a line to the VM launch script to configure the iscsi disk. the VM doesn't know or care that it's remote. |
| 21:21.02 | SerajewelKS | rwp: this is one of those things i wish i would have learned about years ago |
| 21:21.24 | SerajewelKS | like when i was learning linux in 2000-2001 ish and it took like 3-4 years for someone to tell me about ssh tunnels |
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| 21:22.18 | rwp | SerajewelKS, Thanks for sharing it now. There many things like that. Gems of tools that are really useful but not something learned all at once. |
| 21:22.55 | rwp | Talking about ssh tunnels and gems of tools... Have you used 'sshuttle'? It's one of those I picked up for creating quick and simple vpn tunnels. |
| 21:23.09 | trui | blastwave: are we playing with sid in #debian? *teases* |
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| 21:24.19 | blastwave | damn it .. |
| 21:24.27 | blastwave | I think I need to be in debian-next |
| 21:24.39 | blastwave | oh .. I am |
| 21:24.55 | blastwave | trui: man I live with Debian sid usually |
| 21:25.13 | trui | too fast for me |
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| 21:25.21 | annadane | sid is a lot of fun but from now on i'm using it in a VM |
| 21:25.25 | annadane | i need my computer to work |
| 21:25.30 | blastwave | yes .. well about that |
| 21:25.45 | blastwave | I also found that VMware workstation won't even install into sid |
| 21:26.04 | blastwave | so I may need to bite the bullet here and just flush the hard disk and switch to debian stable |
| 21:26.06 | trui | apt update saying everything is up to date lulls me to sleep every night |
| 21:26.06 | apt | okay, trui |
| 21:26.21 | blastwave | well I have sid here saying the same thing |
| 21:26.23 | SerajewelKS | rwp: no, interesting. i always used -D or just a "real" VPN. |
| 21:26.35 | trui | so i'm staying stable ;) |
| 21:26.40 | SerajewelKS | i assume that it makes use of ssh sw |
| 21:26.47 | SerajewelKS | ssh -w rather |
| 21:27.35 | rwp | SerajewelKS, Now I show up at a corporate site with a restricted firewall and http proxy but has ssh available. I launch "sshuttle -v -x 10.0.0.0/8 -r myservername 0/0" and then have full private web access without triggering their corporate http proxy restrictions. |
| 21:28.08 | SerajewelKS | rwp: nice, i did something similar but much more involved |
| 21:28.09 | rwp | Where 10/8 represents the local subnet. That is excluded. I can still access local subnet IPs. But all others get tunneled. |
| 21:28.49 | rwp | Needs local sudo root to set up the local iptables. Does not need root on the remote system. Works very well. |
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| 21:29.06 | SerajewelKS | rwp: it involved running a linux VM on windows, bridging the physical network to the VM but leaving the bridge interface on the host unconfigured, adding a host-only network interface to the guest, and having the guest route it |
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| 21:29.22 | SerajewelKS | rwp: the guest could be used to selectively route traffic out the real network or a VPN |
| 21:29.30 | blastwave | oh bloody hell .... the released and packaged Debian FireFox ESR ... *just works* .. well gee |
| 21:29.49 | rwp | An advantage over -D is that I assume with -D you configure things to use the proxy? With sshuttle nothing needs to be configured because it uses iptables and therefore everything Just Works. |
| 21:30.22 | rwp | Isn't that the way things should be blastwave? Just Working? :-) |
| 21:30.24 | SerajewelKS | rwp: right. i use -D sometimes though because in some cases i want only some programs to be proxied. you could do the same thing in iptables with -m owner or something |
| 21:30.56 | SerajewelKS | ssh -w gives you a tun interfaces. which again is, i assume, how sshuttle works. |
| 21:31.05 | rwp | In any case I was mostly just trying to repay the favor of pointing me to open-iscsi with another gem of a tool that I use a lot but no one knows about. :-) |
| 21:31.06 | SerajewelKS | it's probably ssh -w but sets up the iptables rules for you. |
| 21:31.15 | SerajewelKS | yeah i might have the occasion to use that |
| 21:31.29 | SerajewelKS | it's always good to learn about new things |
| 21:31.44 | SerajewelKS | lately for me that's been docker/podman |
| 21:32.09 | rwp | A good hacker is always learning. [[ Pilots have a saying, "A good pilot is always learning." :-) ]] |
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| 21:33.18 | blastwave | rwp: --> " Isn't that the way things should be ..." well in sid you get to test stuff |
| 21:33.50 | SerajewelKS | i don't have time to test stuff anymore, sadly |
| 21:34.06 | SerajewelKS | in my teens and twenties, sure |
| 21:34.09 | SerajewelKS | now i need shit to work |
| 21:34.10 | blastwave | I have plenty of time |
| 21:34.18 | blastwave | well wait thirty years |
| 21:37.22 | SerajewelKS | rwp: speaking of new stuff i've found, i also do some audio engineering work mostly for fun. imagine my surprise when i found ardour and jack. i'd known about jack for years but not had a use for it. |
| 21:37.41 | SerajewelKS | my desktop audio runs through ardour where i can apply compression and eq and tons of other shit to programs separately |
| 21:38.06 | rwp | I haven't used either of those either. |
| 21:38.25 | SerajewelKS | i watch a fair amount of twitch and no streamers appear to understand why compressing their mic is important |
| 21:38.40 | SerajewelKS | so i just have a dedicated "twitch" channel in ardour with heavy compression and route twitch streams there |
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| 21:39.20 | SerajewelKS | i've used a multiband compressor on a conference call to compress the snot out of the high bands because one of the ladies on the call had a really piercing S that was actually physically hurting my ears if i had it loud enough to where i could understand everyone else |
| 21:39.46 | SerajewelKS | and i sat through it for five minutes before realizing that i had the solution staring at me on my other monitor |
| 21:41.21 | SerajewelKS | anyway yeah, that was my big find of last year |
| 21:41.22 | jhutchins | SerajewelKS: Do you use a realtime kernel? |
| 21:41.27 | SerajewelKS | not currently |
| 21:42.03 | SerajewelKS | basically i nice ardour and jack at -15 and hope i don't get too many xruns |
| 21:42.27 | SerajewelKS | i have the jack period high enough that i don't get very many xruns but also can't perceive any latency |
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| 21:44.21 | jhutchins | Heh. I tried putting my guitar through jack and some multi-effects thing and it was like a tape delay. Amusing but not useful. |
| 21:44.37 | jhutchins | It's an old Core2 duo with a soundblaster. |
| 21:44.57 | SerajewelKS | hmm. depending on how many effects, that could have worked. |
| 21:45.03 | SerajewelKS | maybe the period size was too large? |
| 21:45.17 | SerajewelKS | i've managed to get an rpi processing several channels with comp+eq |
| 21:46.48 | jhutchins | SerajewelKS: Yeah, it didn't encourage me to mess with tuning the system. I like a pretty basic sound anyway. |
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| 21:47.49 | SerajewelKS | compression and eq are must-haves for me. unfortunately pulse's eq is awful and i never found an option for compression. |
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| 21:52.35 | OS-XXXxxX | Hello |
| 21:52.53 | OS-XXXxxX | may i ask if that channel is for OSCP LAPs ? |
| 21:53.41 | blastwave | has no clue what OSCP LAPs even is or are |
| 21:54.24 | jhutchins | OS-XXXxxX: Debian Linux support. |
| 21:56.11 | blastwave | wasn't there a irc chan for sid or debian-next at one point ? |
| 21:56.31 | whislock | blastwave: There is, but it's on a different network. |
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| 21:56.36 | blastwave | ahh |
| 21:56.45 | blastwave | well then .. I should go away from here |
| 21:56.51 | whislock | !testing |
| 21:56.52 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <bullseye>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <buster->bullseye> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 21:56.59 | whislock | There you go. |
| 21:57.18 | blastwave | beauty ... knew it |
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| 22:17.16 | eblip | hey does anyone have a problem deleting a thunderbird email account on debian |
| 22:17.27 | eblip | machine just locks and ihave to kill the thunderbird process |
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| 22:21.00 | ritzton | Hello |
| 22:21.37 | ritzton | would you know how is it possible to automatically start xcfe x2go user session on reboot |
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| 22:34.16 | eblip | dont understand it ...i have thunderbird set up on 2 machines and i cant delete the accounts on one of the machines |
| 22:34.19 | eblip | but the other is fine |
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| 22:36.42 | vlt | ritzton: You could try something with autologin or nodm. |
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| 22:40.27 | eblip | thunderbird 60.9.0 i can delete accounts on one machine ...but not on the other |
| 22:40.34 | eblip | hmm maybe its a group thing |
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| 23:16.20 | Gigglebyte | Is there a way to test the hardware integrity of a memory stick using the command line? |
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| 23:25.04 | Gerowen | Gigglebyte: Take out all memory but the stick in question and then use memtest86+ . |
| 23:25.36 | Gerowen | You can make a bootable USB stick for it, or you can install the deb package and boot to it at your normal grub. |
| 23:25.47 | Gerowen | That's what I would do anyway. |
| 23:25.50 | Gigglebyte | Gerowen> I could use memtest, but would like to try bad blocks command. |
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| 23:26.31 | Gigglebyte | I seem to be having trouble getting the systax right. I looked at the man page, and it says "don't use -w" if you want to preserve your file system. |
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| 23:31.04 | mxzcrit | Hey, Iâm not sure if this is the best place to ask but: |
| 23:34.05 | mxzcrit | So Iâm following an online guide on stackoverflow and it wants me to reference something in the etc folder that I have apt installed. However I set the apt install location somewhere else a while ago and I canât remember where. How can I find where I set things to go from apt install? Iâm on a usb mount if that helps |
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