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| 00:22.47 | concernsforever | gonna post something is in my bonés because i want a CLEAN linux |
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| 01:00.53 | jim | hi, how does debian set its default locations for libs? I see that /etc/ld.so.conf includes ld.so.conf.d/*.conf, nothing else in there (so /usr/lib doesn't come from that), and the only file in that dir is glibc.conf, which has /usr/local/lib |
| 01:01.43 | jim | not glibc.conf, but libc.conf |
| 01:02.35 | jim | anyway mostly my question is what are the default locations, and where/how do those defaults get to ld.so? |
| 01:03.01 | ksk | jim: I think if you really wanted to know, take a look here: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html |
| 01:03.56 | jim | thanks, I'll add that to our ##linux discussion |
| 01:04.38 | ksk | what is your actualy question, anyways? |
| 01:04.54 | ksk | like, what are you really trying to do. |
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| 01:11.43 | jim | help someone run an app they just compiled which also builds libs |
| 01:12.00 | jim | here |
| 01:12.18 | jim | is what I'm presently curious about: |
| 01:12.36 | ksk | !problem |
| 01:12.37 | dpkg | well, problem is something that can be solved, fixed or worked around if properly described. A good thorough description of the problem, with detailed steps of how to reproduce the problem, the produced output, and the expected output, is the best start to discuss a problem. |
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| 01:14.56 | jim | the doc you linked, has a section 8.1.1 ldconfig, which says: "Any package installing shared libraries in one of the default library directories of the dynamic linker (which are currently /usr/lib and /lib) .... must use ldconfig to update the shared library system." |
| 01:17.59 | jim | my question, both then and now (already clearly stated, and now repeated): where does the information of the default dirs /usr/lib and /lib, is read from, whose effect is to make those dirs content get pulled into execuables? |
| 01:21.11 | jim | that's really all I need; I just now realized I couldn't see them anymore, they're no longer in ld.so.conf, or in any files in ld.so.conf.d... so where are they? |
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| 01:24.47 | sn00p | can someone help me fix this please, AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined |
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| 01:35.41 | oxek | I want to remove avahi-daemon, I issue `apt purge avahi-daemon` and it wants to remove all of gnome |
| 01:35.44 | oxek | what gives? |
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| 01:46.53 | jim | oxek, the gnome stuff must depend on avahi daemon |
| 01:47.24 | oxek | jim: yeah found out, sound really pointless |
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| 01:49.49 | jim | oxek, the assumption the package management system makes, is: if a package (say, A) that other packages (say, B, C, D) depend on, it will assume that A is needed for B, C, and D to run... so, a removal of A, which would cause B, C, and D to fail, would cause the package management to assume it should also remove B, C and D |
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| 01:52.48 | jim | oxek, the package metadata has the dependency data in it, so that's what the package manager has to go on... if it turns out that (say) B, C and D would run even if A is removed, that's a separate matter |
| 01:53.51 | oxek | jim: I would hope gnome can run without any networking by default |
| 01:53.55 | oxek | if not, then something is wrong with gnome |
| 01:54.22 | oxek | not sure if this is a debian packaging issue or gnome issue though |
| 01:54.36 | jim | not necessarily... what you can assume, is that the maintainers have a different idea of what's needed |
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| 01:56.19 | jim | it may be that gnome depends on a subset of the networking code, so they don't have to create exceptional cases in the code |
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| 07:40.26 | annadane | nvidia cards don't "pass through" to virtual machines, right...? |
| 07:41.03 | annadane | i'm just wondering how much virt-manager will detect my nvidia card (using the proprietary driver, on the host) and because nvidia's done this it'll affect this in some way? |
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| 07:43.43 | rudi_s | annadane: You can pass-through nvidia cards. But then they aren't available on the host. |
| 07:43.54 | rudi_s | So virt-manager won't detect the nvidia card. |
| 07:44.06 | rudi_s | *So in your setup virt-manager |
| 07:44.59 | annadane | i guess i'm maybe just confused as to what virt-manager uses in general and also the problems people have had with nvidia, i assume that if i set up a generic debian and don't install nvidia-driver in it (on the guest), it uses nouveau, but if i apt install nvidia-driver it... does nothing? |
| 07:45.05 | annadane | just not sure about stuff in general |
| 07:45.42 | rudi_s | annadane: No. Per default qemu just emulates a generic graphics card so no nvidia/nouveau drivers will be used. |
| 07:46.30 | rudi_s | There is no problem with nvidia cards when you just want to create generic VMs. It gets more interesting if you want to pass an nvidia card into a vm for example to play games from inside a windows vm. |
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| 08:42.21 | xormor | should I use the 4.19 Debian Linux kernel or the 5.2 version? |
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| 08:44.49 | at0m | xormor: anything in either that you need or doesn't work in the other? if not, why bother? |
| 08:45.27 | xormor | at0m, both work similarly. I think the 4.19 is faster, when I use the desktop and the system overall. |
| 08:45.33 | xormor | Linux debianvakaa 4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1 (2019-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 08:46.43 | at0m | if you think your system prefers 4.19, then that'll be it i guess =) |
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| 08:52.45 | at0m | xormor: always good to have another known working kernel around, in case the first one fails. so here, i'd keep that 5.2 around. |
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| 08:54.03 | xormor | at0m, how would I make the system boot to 4.19 by default? |
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| 08:59.46 | at0m | xormor: quick and dirty would be to set grub's default (which i assume is your bootloader) via /boot/grub/grub.cfg. but that'll only last until next kernel update/upgrade, when grub will overwrite that. that's sourced from /etc/default/grub, which is more persistent, but some grub-install (iirc) command is needed to change the file in /boot. so i go about editing both manually, until next kernel install |
| 08:59.52 | at0m | script does it for me |
| 09:00.27 | at0m | result of both will be the same though, so i don't bother much. |
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| 09:04.37 | annadane | 4.19 is the best supported as it comes with buster |
| 09:04.50 | annadane | 5.2 will change, i don't think it's LTS (long term support) |
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| 09:05.11 | annadane | so if you have no reason to prefer another kernel i wouldn't bother |
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| 09:06.55 | xormor | thanks. |
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| 09:10.57 | jelly | 5.4 is supposed to be a longterm branch |
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| 09:13.24 | hans_ | why does /bin/mount have setuid permission? mount does not need setuid to check that it's not root and print "only root can do that" |
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| 09:18.22 | hans_ | nvm, man mount explains it (/etc/fstab `user` option) |
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| 09:32.57 | xormor | at0m, yes, I got it to work. I had to do some copy-pasting: "sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg". |
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| 09:36.09 | humpled | erm, are you sure that's a good idea xormor? |
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| 09:36.28 | xormor | humpled, not a very good idea. it still works. I was able to boot. |
| 09:36.33 | xormor | Linux debianvakaa 4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u1 (2019-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 09:36.50 | humpled | i guess it's fine as a temporary solution |
| 09:36.57 | xormor | "vakaa"="stable" in Finnish, there is the kernel version, the architecture and the system type. |
| 09:38.04 | xormor | humpled, what would be a good permanent solution? |
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| 09:40.05 | humpled | usually you're supposed to edit /etc/default/grub or edit or write a template in /etc/grub.d |
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| 09:50.48 | annadane | mistyped command, or suggestion?! |
| 09:51.04 | iwkse | annadane: typo, got one space at the beginning :-) |
| 09:51.11 | iwkse | but also a suggestion if you like |
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| 10:11.28 | boktan | i cannot resize any window on KDE |
| 10:11.32 | boktan | how to fix this problem? |
| 10:12.03 | boktan | i tryed default settings but result was same |
| 10:12.59 | AimHere | It's not something dopey like a modifier key on your keyboard (control, or alt or something) stuck in a 'pressed' state? |
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| 10:14.19 | boktan | please help me thank you |
| 10:14.36 | annadane | boktan, AimHere was replying to you |
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| 10:17.03 | boktan | oh annadane how to know if somethings is pressed i dont think it but how to check ity? |
| 10:17.14 | boktan | aimhere |
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| 10:19.37 | AimHere | Just open some app where you know the effects of the key when it's pressed and not pressed. For shift, say, you can just open a text editor, press 'x' and then press 'shift + x' and they should act appropriately |
| 10:20.26 | boktan | xXi |
| 10:20.35 | boktan | its working aimhere |
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| 10:20.51 | AimHere | Or just visually inspect your keyboard, if there's a danger of it being dirty |
| 10:21.01 | boktan | the laptop is 1 week old |
| 10:21.03 | boktan | :D |
| 10:21.44 | AimHere | Yeah, fair enough. There may be other causes, but I often find when window managers don't work the way I expect, it might be due to control or alt being stuck |
| 10:22.25 | boktan | akt+tab is changind window fine |
| 10:23.08 | boktan | alt* |
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| 10:26.03 | boktan | how to reset everything about kde? |
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| 11:13.10 | Latr_work | good morning |
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| 11:19.09 | Latr_work | rofl |
| 11:19.23 | dark-kermit | good mornafterevening |
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| 11:31.20 | gidna | Hello |
| 11:32.08 | gidna | Must the confing file wpa_supplicant.conf be put in /etc/wpa_supplicant dir? |
| 11:33.31 | armin | gidna: just call "wpa_supplicant" without any arguments and see the last example line |
| 11:33.41 | armin | gidna: it will tell you what you have to do |
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| 11:36.54 | gidna | armin, wpa_supplicant -Dnl80211 -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 11:37.07 | gidna | this is the example given |
| 11:37.17 | gidna | but I see there's the dir /etc/wpa_supplicant/ |
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| 11:44.15 | pasiz | gidna: do you try just connect to network with debian? |
| 11:44.31 | gidna | What do you mean? |
| 11:45.08 | pasiz | what you are trying to accomplish |
| 11:45.24 | pasiz | is nmtui bad tool for you? |
| 11:46.10 | gidna | pasiz, I'm under Icewm |
| 11:48.09 | ratrace | gidna: if you're using wpa_supplicant manually, the config file can be anywhere and given via -c . otherwise services and the interfaces(5) framework expect stuff to be in /etc/wpa_supplicant |
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| 11:51.45 | pasiz | gidna: nmtui is text based |
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| 11:52.18 | gidna | pasiz, I find only wired networks not wireless |
| 11:52.50 | pasiz | do you need firmware for your card |
| 11:53.10 | gidna | pasiz, I can use the card with other tools.. |
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| 12:24.20 | annadane | hmm |
| 12:24.25 | annadane | man hier doesn't have /run |
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| 12:25.55 | annadane | oh it's all a bunch of symlinks |
| 12:26.23 | phogg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:27.40 | annadane | it does have /var/run which is the same |
| 12:27.55 | phogg | annadane: see https://lwn.net/Articles/436012/ for the proposal; see also https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory |
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| 12:28.15 | phogg | I am not sure if/when this is getting/will get added to the official FHS |
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| 12:31.00 | annadane | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Oct 25 02:53 /var/run -> /run |
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| 12:42.47 | ayekat | /run has been a thing for quite a while now |
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| 13:03.27 | debian-guy | hi |
| 13:03.54 | debian-guy | I installed debian 10.1 today but it doesn't start X |
| 13:05.07 | debian-guy | loading kind of freezes on the screen where it shows a bunch of text on black screen. I go to a new session then and do stuff in terminal, I stried startx but GUI didn't start |
| 13:06.28 | debian-guy | what can I do? |
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| 13:06.56 | NetTerminalGene | debian-guy, i dunno, but you have nvidia card? maybe it doesn2t start because of wayland? |
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| 13:07.19 | debian-guy | I have amd radeon |
| 13:07.21 | maxbande | ciao a tutti |
| 13:07.30 | uio | debian-guy, Probably a bad question, but what DE did you choose? |
| 13:07.32 | maxbande | !list |
| 13:07.32 | dpkg | maxbande: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
| 13:07.36 | debian-guy | I don't know, everytrhing worked on debian 9 |
| 13:07.54 | galvanoport | i have tuttufurutti graphic card |
| 13:07.56 | debian-guy | uio: I didn't choose any during install so it should be default so I assume GNOME |
| 13:08.15 | uio | debian-guy, Did you upgrade from 9 or do a fresh 10 install? |
| 13:08.23 | debian-guy | I did a fresh install |
| 13:08.29 | maxbande | !list |
| 13:08.29 | dpkg | maxbande: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
| 13:08.45 | uio | what iso did you choose? |
| 13:08.51 | debian-guy | netinstall x64 |
| 13:09.06 | uio | Did you install a DE after? Pretty sure that one has no DE.... |
| 13:09.09 | uio | or WM. |
| 13:09.39 | uio | Oops, I think I might be wrong, did you choose one during the install process? |
| 13:09.48 | debian-guy | I didn't but when it asked me about DE during install the selected option was Default Debian Environment and I went with that |
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| 13:09.59 | uio | debian-guy, Okay. I see. |
| 13:11.30 | debian-guy | when I tried startx it said connection refused |
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| 13:12.56 | uio | debian-guy, Is it anything like this : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=873262 |
| 13:12.57 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/873262 in xorg (open, moreinfo): «user cannot startx session»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-08-25; last modified: 2017-09-05. |
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| 13:15.02 | debian-guy | I don't think I got that error, I wish I could copy the message somehow |
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| 13:24.41 | humpled | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.46 | humpled | sounds like the desktop was installed but that X could not start properly, probably due to some incompatibility of settings or drivers with the video card |
| 13:27.10 | uio | debian-guy, But didn't Debian 9 work fine? |
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| 13:27.47 | debian-guy | debian 9 worked fine |
| 13:27.49 | uio | debian-guy, Did you compare the error messages. |
| 13:27.52 | uio | So, not drivers. |
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| 13:28.54 | debian-guy | I will post xorg log |
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| 13:32.32 | debian-guy | https://pastebin.com/Zzc0ydUM |
| 13:33.07 | debian-guy | Fatal server error: [ 177.538] (EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices |
| 13:33.17 | debian-guy | seems like that might be the relevant bit |
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| 13:46.09 | debian-guy | also I get a lot of this in my dmesg: |
| 13:46.16 | debian-guy | pstore: decompression failed: -22 |
| 13:46.28 | debian-guy | pstore: crypto_comp_decompress failed, ret = -22! |
| 13:46.30 | ahi2 | how do i prevent /etc/resolv.conf being overwritten at boot? |
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| 13:52.27 | ahi2 | chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 13:52.50 | rudi_s | ahi2: That's a workaround, but not the best solution. Find out what overwrites it and reconfigure that program (e.g. your dhcp client). |
| 13:53.07 | rudi_s | debian-guy: pstore is not relevent for this issue, the errors are harmless. |
| 13:53.14 | debian-guy | oh ok |
| 13:53.23 | rudi_s | debian-guy: Do you have systemd-logind installed? |
| 13:53.27 | rudi_s | And is dbus running? |
| 13:53.35 | debian-guy | I don't know, it's a fresh install |
| 13:53.43 | boktan | can anybody confirm if have /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.dhcpd or not on he's linux? |
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| 13:53.49 | boktan | because of i dont have it |
| 13:54.47 | rudi_s | boktan: Looks like it's not in Debian. |
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| 13:55.11 | debian-guy | I'm missing firmware for my gpu, on debian 9 gui would still work without it, but maybe installing it will solve my issue |
| 13:55.18 | debian-guy | how do I add non free repo from command line? |
| 13:55.59 | debian-guy | I mean enable debian non free repo that's normally disabled |
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| 13:57.24 | FleaFart | Hello peeps; I have just installed a debian distro and a package called CodeLite which asks to use a G++ compiler: However, there is a choice GCC or Cross GCC (x86_64-linux-gnu) ... may I ask which choice is the most powerful or most current? |
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| 13:58.51 | FleaFart | BTW, if you want are interested in C++ and classes this software has a nice gui and works very well |
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| 14:00.18 | humpled | i think a cross-compiling generates executables for alternative architectures |
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| 14:01.17 | FleaFart | thanks |
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| 14:02.29 | FleaFart | I am only learning so GCC is enuff as it only for the box I am working on. Thanks for your feedback. |
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| 15:02.44 | debian-guy | I installed missing gpu firmware and that fixed my issue |
| 15:03.42 | nsa_ | is there a FOSS prefered alternative to github.com now that it is owned by microsoft ? |
| 15:03.42 | debian-guy | now I have another problem. The OS doesn't detect all resolutions correctly. How do I add new one in Debian 10? On Debian 9 I used to use xrandr but that method doesn't work with wayland |
| 15:04.06 | debian-guy | nsa_: there are many, gitlab is partially free |
| 15:04.19 | debian-guy | some projects moved there |
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| 15:08.54 | tomreyn | debian-guy: which graphics card, driver? |
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| 15:09.26 | debian-guy | tomreyn: amd radeon r7 250x, default amdpgu driver shipped with Debian 0 |
| 15:09.30 | debian-guy | Debian 10 |
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| 15:13.03 | tomreyn | did it default to amdgpu? i guess it can work, but this one is on the verge between radeon and amdgpu. if you can't pick the proper resolution using xrandr even though the driver is loaded and all of its firmware was found it's either due to your monitor (but unlikely, since you said it worked before) or because Xorg fell back to VESA mode for some reason. see the xorg initialization for further hints, and make sure your /proc/cmdline does not |
| 15:13.03 | tomreyn | set incompatible options. |
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| 15:13.43 | tomreyn | (also the module should not be blacklisted or loaded with incompatible options) |
| 15:14.11 | debian-guy | I haven't checked the driver, on Debian 9 the same card had radeon driver. I assume it's the same, but haven't checked |
| 15:14.48 | tomreyn | lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 should tell which drivers are available, are loaded |
| 15:14.56 | towo` | tomreyn, xrandr in generaly doesn't work on wayland |
| 15:14.59 | debian-guy | I can't change modes with xrandr under wayland |
| 15:15.16 | tomreyn | oh, i did not see wayland mentioned |
| 15:15.45 | tomreyn | right, you said so, sorry |
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| 15:16.05 | debian-guy | that's ok, I need a way to add a custom resolution in wayland |
| 15:16.09 | tomreyn | still, i suggest you check what i pointed to, to make sure wverything else is properly configured |
| 15:16.51 | tomreyn | are you using gnome-shell / mutter there then? |
| 15:17.06 | tomreyn | the 'new' gnome desktop? |
| 15:17.14 | debian-guy | the GUI works just under low resolution |
| 15:17.28 | debian-guy | it's running gnome |
| 15:17.50 | tomreyn | so start with the lspci output |
| 15:17.55 | towo` | debian-guy, connection between card and monitor is how? |
| 15:18.01 | tomreyn | then check journalctl -b for X logs |
| 15:18.09 | debian-guy | towo`: d-sub, it's an old monitor |
| 15:18.16 | towo` | VGA? |
| 15:18.19 | debian-guy | yes |
| 15:18.38 | tomreyn | oh |
| 15:18.39 | towo` | then the card propably can't read the right values from the monitor |
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| 15:19.16 | towo` | debian-guy, if i would be you, i would switch to xorg |
| 15:19.21 | debian-guy | I think it always worked on Windows, just on Debian I have this issue where I had to add a custom resolution |
| 15:19.41 | debian-guy | towo`: why? will I lose anything if I switch? |
| 15:19.50 | towo` | no, why you should? |
| 15:19.50 | debian-guy | wayland is supposed to be better right? |
| 15:20.07 | towo` | wayland is all other, than ready for all usecases |
| 15:20.19 | towo` | you see it yourself now |
| 15:20.38 | debian-guy | then why does a stable distro like debian include it? :( |
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| 15:20.45 | towo` | why not? |
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| 15:21.08 | debian-guy | if people have to switch |
| 15:21.36 | towo` | debian-guy, you have realized, only gnome is running on wayland nowdays? |
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| 15:21.52 | debian-guy | no, didn't know |
| 15:22.40 | debian-guy | is there no way to add custom resolution on wayland? switching to xorg seems like a lazy workaround :) |
| 15:23.00 | tomreyn | you'd normally use gnome-settings to do so |
| 15:23.08 | debian-guy | I will do it if there is no other way but still |
| 15:23.20 | debian-guy | gnome settings only has 1024x768 |
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| 15:23.34 | towo` | debian-guy, wayland is for modern hardware, vga is not modern |
| 15:23.51 | debian-guy | I see |
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| 15:24.56 | towo` | i forget to say, wayland is really nice, if it is ready somedays |
| 15:25.49 | simbalion | can someone help with this error? https://hastebin.com/raw/duwubuturu |
| 15:28.09 | tomreyn | simbalion: "Package mariadb-server-10.1 is not configured yet" is why this command failed. apt-get -f install to do so |
| 15:28.52 | tomreyn | presumely you already saw the other error message about mariadb-server-10.1 failing to configure. you'll see it again now. |
| 15:29.02 | simbalion | tomreyn: no that's wrong, it throws the exact same error. |
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| 15:29.57 | tomreyn | how about dpkg --configure mariadb-server-10.1 |
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| 15:30.15 | simbalion | Same error |
| 15:30.31 | tomreyn | it's impossible to be the same error, it's a different package |
| 15:30.53 | tomreyn | can you share the output? |
| 15:31.11 | SerajewelKS | after formatting an md device as luks, apparently the luks header looks like a partition table because two md partition devices were automatically created |
| 15:31.15 | SerajewelKS | how can i prevent that from happening? |
| 15:31.17 | simbalion | tomreyn: It is the same error! |
| 15:31.44 | simbalion | tomreyn: https://hastebin.com/raw/ewaqazurav |
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| 15:33.11 | tomreyn | simbalion: so this time package mariadb-server-10.1 failed to configure, specifically the post installation script failed. |
| 15:33.29 | simbalion | that was the only error every single time |
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| 15:33.57 | SerajewelKS | stopping and assembling the array confirms this, the partition devices are recreated. in the kernel log: md2: AHDI p1 p2 p3 |
| 15:34.10 | simbalion | I did not need help reading the error, I am capable of reading english. I need help fixing the error. |
| 15:35.31 | simbalion | Can nobody help with this error? |
| 15:35.33 | tomreyn | simbalion: hey calm down, i'm just trying to help. try dpkg -C mariadb-server-10.1 |
| 15:35.46 | simbalion | Is that the same as --configure |
| 15:36.14 | tomreyn | no |
| 15:37.15 | simbalion | tomreyn: worthless. https://hastebin.com/raw/gakujeniye |
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| 15:40.15 | jjcjjc | This is weird. As root I get "cryptsetup: command not found" but cryptsetup works fine when I sudo instead. What's going on ? |
| 15:40.49 | tomreyn | simbalion: dpkg --debug=help if you'd like see how to get more output from dpkg. or you could set -x on the beginning of the postconf script. |
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| 15:41.38 | tomreyn | jjcjjc: different $PATH? aliases? |
| 15:42.46 | tomreyn | try running cryptsetup as root using the installation path the restricted user account sees when it runs whereis cryptsetup |
| 15:43.40 | tomreyn | that's only if you think it's safe to do so |
| 15:44.36 | jjcjjc | tomreyn, yeah that works. root's PATH doesn't have /usr/sbin |
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| 15:44.58 | tomreyn | that's unusual |
| 15:45.25 | tomreyn | someone must have edited it ;) |
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| 15:47.47 | jjcjjc | heh. I copied some of my old installation's /root/* in but don't think I clobbered any dot files. gonna update using /etc/profile |
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| 15:55.15 | SerajewelKS | jjcjjc: how did you log in as root? su? |
| 15:55.58 | losgb1 | Hi, I'm on Debien 10.1 Buster and I have just upgraded firefox to the latest security update (68.2.0esr-1~deb10u1). There is a grey frame that limits the edges of the screen when in firefox, is there any way to remove this or is this just how the firefox window is now ? |
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| 15:57.17 | jjcjjc | SerajewelKS, yes by su |
| 15:58.00 | jjcjjc | After updating /root/.bashrc and /root/.profile it's fine |
| 16:00.53 | tomreyn | losgb1: can you show a screenshot of this (without disclosing personal information)? |
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| 16:01.26 | tomreyn | you could host it on imgur.com or similar |
| 16:02.12 | ayekat | jjcjjc: there is no need to manually add sbin to root's PATH in /root/.bashrc or /root/.profile - just log launch a login shell with `su -` |
| 16:02.28 | ayekat | s/log// |
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| 16:04.12 | ayekat | (also, more generally, setting variables like PATH in .bashrc isn't very clean) |
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| 16:05.45 | losgb1 | tomreyn Ok |
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| 16:08.11 | jjcjjc | sounds good, thanks |
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| 16:09.27 | losgb1 | tomreyn https://imgur.com/a/ujcvbKd |
| 16:09.36 | losgb1 | It's framed in a grey border. |
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| 16:20.23 | tomreyn | losgb1: is this just on google or elsewhere, too? |
| 16:20.49 | losgb1 | tomreyn It's everywhere, that's how the pages are displayed. |
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| 16:21.13 | tomreyn | that's unusal. check your browser addons |
| 16:21.37 | tomreyn | you can create a new browser profile for testing by running firefox -P |
| 16:21.38 | losgb1 | like disable them and see what I get ? |
| 16:21.45 | losgb1 | Ok |
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| 16:22.03 | losgb1 | Will it create a new directory in /home/.mozilla ? |
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| 16:22.18 | tomreyn | there's also an option to restart with addons disabled on the help menu |
| 16:22.26 | losgb1 | Ok |
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| 16:22.38 | losgb1 | Which one should I go for first ? |
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| 16:23.49 | losgb1 | Nah, same thing with addons disabled in the help menu |
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| 16:24.44 | losgb1 | I have a pretty steep user.js so maybe the problem lies there. |
| 16:24.49 | losgb1 | I'll try without it |
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| 16:26.04 | losgb1 | I think I found it, it's in the user.js ... |
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| 16:26.12 | losgb1 | Pages display normally without it. |
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| 16:41.24 | intruder01 | is there any gpl'd or at least open-source alternatives to google/amazon/apple's voice recognition software? |
| 16:41.59 | intruder01 | even their speech synthesis seems way ahead of festival or espeak |
| 16:43.55 | tomreyn | intruder01: see iot.mozilla.org |
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| 16:48.20 | intruder01 | interesting, thanks! |
| 16:50.01 | losgb1 | tomreyn apparently it was the pref "privacy.resistFingerprinting.letterboxing" that was resizing the inner window when set to true. |
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| 16:52.46 | betelgelseorion | need some help |
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| 16:54.51 | Ede|Popede | you found a support channel. LVLUP! |
| 16:54.57 | betelgelseorion | windows10pro qemukmv woking as demand |
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| 16:55.47 | jhutchins | !br |
| 16:55.47 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:55.54 | betelgelseorion | uploaded to the google cloud and after only jack can unlock |
| 16:55.57 | todi | good evening everyone with each other |
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| 16:57.39 | betelgelseorion | for my aw windows was replaced to grub |
| 16:58.18 | betelgelseorion | in misterious ways |
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| 16:58.49 | betelgelseorion | aannalll i cant get my windows |
| 16:59.00 | tomreyn | losgb1: ah so that's to prevent window size snooping apparently https://www.ghacks.net/2019/03/06/firefox-67-with-anti-fingerprinting-technique-letterboxing/ |
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| 16:59.32 | tomreyn | losgb1: i guess it makes sense that you end up with a fixed size then. |
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| 17:00.04 | betelgelseorion | virtual machine manager |
| 17:00.39 | betelgelseorion | few minutes ago |
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| 17:01.46 | betelgelseorion | grub installed in my windows |
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| 17:02.05 | betelgelseorion | in recovery mode |
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| 17:02.12 | tomreyn | betelgelseorion: try to write full sentences, use punctuation, keep it on one line. |
| 17:02.15 | betelgelseorion | desperate |
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| 17:05.23 | betelgelseorion | now cant get prompt for the vm |
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| 17:05.44 | betelgelseorion | blank window |
| 17:06.36 | betelgelseorion | window |
| 17:07.29 | betelgelseorion | hopless |
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| 17:07.55 | losgb1 | tomreyn that's right. I chose esthetics over fingerprinting here ahah |
| 17:08.34 | betelgelseorion | grub came firt |
| 17:08.42 | betelgelseorion | firt |
| 17:09.13 | betelgelseorion | none now |
| 17:09.52 | betelgelseorion | grub in windows 10? |
| 17:10.09 | betelgelseorion | wtf |
| 17:10.46 | betelgelseorion | is a qemukvm |
| 17:10.52 | Ede|Popede | betelgelseorion: windows10, qemu, google cloud, grub, vm. i literally have no clue what you're trying to say. |
| 17:11.16 | betelgelseorion | is local |
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| 17:12.44 | betelgelseorion | uncle bill cant flee from my |
| 17:12.46 | Ede|Popede | betelgelseorion: could you describe your setup? you have debian installed i guess? |
| 17:13.07 | betelgelseorion | buster |
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| 17:14.17 | Ede|Popede | and you're running windows in a vm? or how does this fit in? |
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| 17:15.46 | betelgelseorion | yes i have a vmwindows 10pro in buster |
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| 17:18.54 | betelgelseorion | got minimal grub... not any more |
| 17:19.18 | betelgelseorion | desperate |
| 17:22.00 | betelgelseorion | i have my life in it |
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| 17:23.01 | Ede|Popede | so the vm with win doesn't start anymore? |
| 17:23.12 | betelgelseorion | linux trustfull? |
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| 17:23.29 | betelgelseorion | not so ever |
| 17:23.35 | oerheks | your life in a vm? |
| 17:23.56 | betelgelseorion | is a box |
| 17:24.42 | betelgelseorion | where yours things live on? |
| 17:24.49 | cinesc | try reinstall the OS you run in a vm if it´s broken |
| 17:24.49 | betelgelseorion | dude |
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| 17:25.53 | cinesc | although that is one I wonder how to pull off let alone set up an OS in a vm |
| 17:26.28 | betelgelseorion | less work is the way for you |
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| 17:28.04 | betelgelseorion | ive been in internet |
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| 17:29.10 | betelgelseorion | beavis yhaks for your advive |
| 17:29.30 | beavis | ? |
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| 17:30.37 | betelgelseorion | cant manage my vm |
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| 17:31.06 | betelgelseorion | and my live is in it thanks linux |
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| 17:31.57 | betelgelseorion | beavis |
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| 17:34.36 | betelgelseorion | who i should S*ck for the |
| 17:35.08 | betelgelseorion | favor |
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| 17:36.37 | betelgelseorion | not a promise |
| 17:37.13 | betelgelseorion | my gratitude woth more |
| 17:39.45 | betelgelseorion | not a simple ask |
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| 17:41.29 | betelgelseorion | remember grub in windows, and wonder minutes no command line |
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| 17:42.57 | betelgelseorion | migrate the file? |
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| 17:44.35 | betelgelseorion | zzzzz |
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| 17:50.09 | betelgelseorion | VMM is a lady to files |
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| 17:51.05 | betelgelseorion | gona fix by hand NOT |
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| 17:54.01 | betelgelseorion | linux works |
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| 17:56.33 | betelgelseorion | thinhing |
| 17:56.53 | betelgelseorion | king |
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| 18:02.22 | alexb_ | Hi! I'm using a container in order to compile very old stuff with ggc4. But I just figure out that cpp-arm-linux-gnueabi is missing. How can I have it knowing that emdebian.org is down? thanks :) |
| 18:04.19 | betelgelseorion | so hapy for you |
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| 18:07.17 | betelgelseorion | apt up grage dint worked guess not |
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| 18:10.20 | Ede|Popede | from yesterday -> if i try to read a big file from a thumb drive and on 2 different PCs it stops after the same amount of sectors, can i assume the thing to be dead then and the data lost? |
| 18:10.20 | Ede|Popede | now i dd'd the whole stick, filesize is as it should be, loop mounted the whole thing, tried to copy out the files i couldn't read on the stick and... i get the same I/O error. while reading file blocks from an image? is there some special marker in the dump if something couldn't be read or what's going on? |
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| 18:11.23 | jhutchins | Ede|Popede: I would say that either the file or the drive or both are corrupted. |
| 18:11.28 | Ede|Popede | i was prepared for 2 things: 1. dd ignores the unreadable parts and i get a smaller file 2) dd fills up the holes and the size is of the original. but this? |
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| 18:11.37 | jhutchins | Ede|Popede: Flash is not a good archival medium. |
| 18:12.01 | Ede|Popede | jhutchins: i still prefer good old HDs |
| 18:12.21 | jhutchins | Ede|Popede: You could try running fsck on it. |
| 18:13.13 | Ede|Popede | oh, FATs differ |
| 18:13.24 | betelgelseorion | not so ever n |
| 18:13.59 | betelgelseorion | gona get worse |
| 18:14.37 | Ede|Popede | i'll continue with a copy, don't feel like dd'ing the whole 30GB again |
| 18:14.39 | betelgelseorion | dont run any more |
| 18:15.16 | betelgelseorion | hummm |
| 18:15.22 | humpled | hmm |
| 18:16.48 | betelgelseorion | and start to grub? |
| 18:17.02 | betelgelseorion | for surprise |
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| 18:17.42 | betelgelseorion | gonna delete |
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| 18:18.46 | betelgelseorion | i am talk windows |
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| 18:19.40 | humpled | ##windows is a good channel |
| 18:19.56 | betelgelseorion | wait |
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| 18:22.59 | otyugh | what tool would you use to save datas from a unreliable sd memory ? |
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| 18:24.24 | jmcnaught | otyugh: gddrescue maybe? |
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| 18:24.42 | betelgelseorion | who we choose to kill? |
| 18:24.52 | betelgelseorion | rm |
| 18:25.08 | otyugh | jmcnaught, there is two other that seems similars to me |
| 18:25.12 | betelgelseorion | liberate |
| 18:25.27 | jmcnaught | betelgelseorion: do you have a Debian question? |
| 18:25.33 | otyugh | "myrescue" and "safecopy" |
| 18:26.03 | betelgelseorion | is up to me |
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| 18:27.20 | jmcnaught | otyugh: my general strategy would be to make a copy of the entire block device and then mount that image via loopback to get files. I don't know which of those three tools is best for copying from the card to the image though. |
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| 18:29.40 | otyugh | jmcnaught, seem that a lot of people advice for ddrescue |
| 18:29.49 | otyugh | I don't have a clue, so I guess I'll try that first. |
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| 18:30.43 | Ede|Popede | otyugh: welcome to the club. dd'd a 32GB stick yesterday, right now trying to save the broken files via loop mount and fsck |
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| 18:31.14 | otyugh | Ede|Popede, I don't think it will ever mount |
| 18:31.19 | Ede|Popede | 1st attempt failed, file was truncated to block chain length :/ |
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| 18:31.54 | otyugh | But I hope I can rescue some stuff from testdisk or the extractor I always forget his name |
| 18:31.57 | Ede|Popede | gddrescue was also my first thought, will try it next |
| 18:32.18 | Ede|Popede | ah right. testdisk. remember that one. saved me data from an SD years ago. |
| 18:33.25 | otyugh | photorec too |
| 18:33.38 | otyugh | great tool if you lost all hopes |
| 18:33.51 | betelgelseorion | otyugh: tell me gain do you? |
| 18:34.22 | debian-guy | towo`, tomreyn: thanks for your help earlier. If you are curious I found out how to add custom resolution on wayland. This needs to be added to kernel boot parameters: video=DVI-I-1:1920x1080@60 |
| 18:35.18 | betelgelseorion | wipe |
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| 18:35.31 | Ede|Popede | otyugh: aren't those tools from the folks who can't contribute bugfixes to the kernel properly? ;) |
| 18:35.34 | betelgelseorion | aintya? |
| 18:35.34 | towo` | debian-guy, DVI-I-1 is not vga |
| 18:35.51 | debian-guy | towo`: yes, my bad |
| 18:36.02 | towo` | debian-guy, ify you say, you use a dvi <=> vga converter ... |
| 18:36.12 | debian-guy | I do and I forgot |
| 18:36.26 | towo` | and dvi should provide the right edid's to tha card |
| 18:36.36 | betelgelseorion | du |
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| 18:36.40 | towo` | those adapter are bad |
| 18:36.46 | debian-guy | dvi is on graphics card, monitor only has vga |
| 18:36.54 | betelgelseorion | daaaaa |
| 18:37.18 | towo` | debian-guy, then you even with xorg could have problems with resolution |
| 18:37.45 | debian-guy | I did :). I had to use xrandr or modify xorg config to add my resolution |
| 18:38.01 | debian-guy | I didn't know the way on wayland |
| 18:38.13 | towo` | debian-guy, my sugestion, buy a modern monitor, don't use crap |
| 18:38.21 | debian-guy | :) |
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| 18:43.07 | betelgelseorion | you are alll so goog |
| 18:43.31 | betelgelseorion | any help is advice |
| 18:44.09 | betelgelseorion | dont get you down |
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| 18:45.38 | betelgelseorion | du how i use it? |
| 18:46.02 | betelgelseorion | for the ones |
| 18:46.04 | Guest62730 | so im not sure how to fix this issue. every 3-4 times i turn on my laptop, I cant connect to any wifi network. Looking at dmesg after attempting, I get a ton of error lines and one stating a SW issue was detected. heres the ouput if someone can point me in the right direction. Ive never manually updated a driver in debian. https://paste.debian.net/1110896/ |
| 18:48.13 | betelgelseorion | kernel |
| 18:48.29 | betelgelseorion | daaaaaa |
| 18:48.41 | betelgelseorion | not so du |
| 18:49.11 | Guest62730 | thinking just revert back to an older kernel? |
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| 18:50.16 | betelgelseorion | and s*hit whatsoever |
| 18:50.30 | betelgelseorion | and looose |
| 18:50.54 | betelgelseorion | my F*ck in windows |
| 18:51.09 | betelgelseorion | thank you |
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| 18:52.59 | oerheks | betelgelseorion, insert your windows dvd and let it repair? |
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| 18:53.10 | betelgelseorion | received |
| 18:53.15 | oerheks | else join ##windows |
| 18:53.27 | jhutchins | Well that's new. irssi just segfaulted. |
| 18:53.41 | betelgelseorion | the candy |
| 18:53.52 | jhutchins | otyugh: photorec |
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| 18:56.09 | betelgelseorion | error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/nornal.mod' not found. |
| 18:56.30 | betelgelseorion | entering rescue mode.... |
| 18:56.54 | betelgelseorion | grub rescue> |
| 18:57.05 | betelgelseorion | aliviateted |
| 18:57.30 | betelgelseorion | NOT |
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| 18:59.52 | betelgelseorion | in command |
| 18:59.58 | betelgelseorion | line |
| 19:00.23 | betelgelseorion | grub rescue> |
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| 19:02.09 | betelgelseorion | internet? |
| 19:02.18 | betelgelseorion | not so much |
| 19:02.27 | jhutchins | betelgelseorion: Please stop. |
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| 19:07.25 | oxek | is LXQt useable in debian or is it better to still stick with LXDE? |
| 19:07.39 | oxek | or move onto something else entirely? (what?) |
| 19:07.51 | oxek | this is on a machine with very low specs |
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| 19:08.46 | betelgelseorion | oxek: lost allllll |
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| 19:09.10 | oxek | betelgelseorion: what? |
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| 19:10.40 | Ede|Popede | betelgelseorion: your info to text ratio is near zero. |
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| 19:11.30 | betelgelseorion | the pprloblem is real |
| 19:12.15 | betelgelseorion | they give me grub rescue |
| 19:12.30 | betelgelseorion | for windows |
| 19:13.08 | betelgelseorion | crazy |
| 19:13.55 | betelgelseorion | will made my coices |
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| 19:15.56 | betelgelseorion | not so much |
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| 19:18.18 | betelgelseorion | lost an hs vm |
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| 19:19.32 | betelgelseorion | windows gogonnna think thk twice what is secure |
| 19:19.47 | wasamasa | are you drunk? |
| 19:20.32 | betelgelseorion | was not else |
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| 19:21.23 | betelgelseorion | before |
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| 19:22.12 | betelgelseorion | my dids is |
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| 19:23.09 | betelgelseorion | lost |
| 19:23.10 | wasamasa | this is a simple yes/no question |
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| 19:24.42 | betelgelseorion | damn sincire |
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| 19:25.03 | wasamasa | I'll just assume you meant to type "yes" |
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| 19:26.05 | betelgelseorion | wasa: yes to what? |
| 19:26.39 | wasamasa | whether you're drunk or not |
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| 19:27.46 | betelgelseorion | in the first place not, bitchihng me yep |
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| 19:28.27 | betelgelseorion | you were so kind |
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| 19:29.12 | betelgelseorion | today i deserve |
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| 19:30.17 | betelgelseorion | not so protitutes |
| 19:31.29 | oerheks | betelgelseorion, no one is helping you with that attitude, good luck! |
| 19:32.34 | betelgelseorion | good look for you |
| 19:32.49 | Ede|Popede | i'd even say noone is *able* to help you like this |
| 19:33.06 | betelgelseorion | i am bickeed |
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| 19:38.35 | cinesc | Is Anonymous72 around here? It´s important |
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| 19:40.04 | Ede|Popede | cinesc: /whois |
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| 19:40.42 | cinesc | what function serves /whois in this chat? |
| 19:40.54 | cinesc | !/whois |
| 19:40.54 | dpkg | methinks /whois is sussudio's prefered IRC command along with /IGNORE |
| 19:43.05 | cinesc | didn´t help using that comand |
| 19:43.09 | cinesc | command* |
| 19:43.49 | humpled | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.18 | Ede|Popede | cinesc: the same it does in any other irc network. you may want to try `/help whois` or `/quote help â¦` if your client has its own interpretation of the help command. (or maybe even a short irc primer) |
| 19:44.21 | joze | /msg nickserv identify jabako00n |
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| 19:44.52 | Ede|Popede | joze: did you see it? |
| 19:45.06 | cinesc | it says the name is not registered |
| 19:45.23 | joze | no just wildcards |
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| 19:46.26 | cinesc | what is a wildcard? |
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| 19:47.02 | humpled | !lastlog |
| 19:47.02 | dpkg | [lastlog] The lastlog(8) command reports the most recent login of all users, or of a given user. In some IRC clients, /lastlog <searchterm> shows the lines of log from the current window matching the search term. |
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| 20:13.57 | trui | well then. it seems there were 9 processes of /usr/lib/geoclue-2.0/demos/agent taking up 50mb of my system. i'm looking into how to prevent that, but if anyone has tips, that'd be great |
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| 20:22.03 | trui | seems a new geoclue process is started every time i start lightdm.service, just like applet.py used to be |
| 20:22.33 | trui | on that note, it seems the printer applet.py bug is fixed, so that's nice :) |
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| 20:27.34 | Ede|Popede | trui: if every time a new one is started, should they maybe die with lightdm? |
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| 20:29.16 | trui | hmm, actually, my apologies, it seems to be stopped |
| 20:29.32 | trui | i guess i misread the ps output |
| 20:30.20 | Ede|Popede | htop in screen/tmux is really convenient :) |
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| 20:31.43 | trui | i'm not at my computer atm so i'll check what happens when i login at the gui later |
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| 20:33.02 | trui | the fact that 50mb of ram is so noticable on my system is part of why debian is so great ;) |
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| 20:34.08 | trui | "oh, it's at 300. can i reduce it somehow? i'm just using a tty. what's this geoclue process? |
| 20:34.41 | trui | not like 50mb matters but i was curious/bored |
| 20:36.35 | Ede|Popede | the RES columnt is what i'm interested in? firefox of course, X and ibus. next would be hexchat with just 37 |
| 20:36.52 | Latr_work | Guys, anyone knows how can I update to Mesa 19.X ? |
| 20:36.59 | humpled | trui do you know what package it's from? you can use dpkg -S <filename> to find out |
| 20:37.10 | Latr_work | if there is a .deb for it or I need to build it myself? |
| 20:37.30 | humpled | !info mesa |
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| 20:39.38 | trui | geoclue-2.0 |
| 20:39.58 | rany | trui, systemctl disable geoclue.service; systemctl mask geoclue.service; |
| 20:40.07 | rany | trui, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/224487/uninstall-geoclue-from-debian |
| 20:40.32 | trui | each of the 9 processes were taking up 3 mb of res each |
| 20:41.04 | trui | i might just keep it around to investigate, but yeah, good to know |
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| 20:41.53 | trui | i'm wondering if it's the reported memory leak bug, or if i should start a new report. or perhaps it's normal behaviour |
| 20:43.13 | cinesc | Got to think, is it possible that you know how to add mesa 18.xx to be able to install opengl 4.2 on an ivybridge? |
| 20:43.28 | trui | 50mb is a far cry from what's been reported here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913240 |
| 20:43.29 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/913240 in geoclue-2.0 (open): «geoclue-2.0: Unreasonably high memory usage (memory leak?)»; severity: important; opened: 2018-11-08; last modified: 2019-05-03. |
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| 20:43.54 | trui | so perhaps it's expected behavior. i'll look at it later |
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| 20:46.59 | Latr_work | can I use debian sid repo solely to upgrade mesa to 19.x? |
| 20:47.39 | Latr_work | does debian has something like alpinelinux that lets you use testing repos only to install and maintain a set of packages? |
| 20:48.24 | rany | trui, holy f*** shit?!!! 11Gigs of RAM?!!! |
| 20:48.29 | rany | for geoclue?!?!! |
| 20:48.41 | rany | consider yourself blessed |
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| 20:52.25 | cinesc | that is more demanding on ram than say doom (2016) |
| 20:52.34 | betelgelseorion | i have my balls in vm |
| 20:53.20 | cinesc | you really go on about the vm don´t you? |
| 20:53.24 | betelgelseorion | trusted in linux |
| 20:53.38 | cinesc | hope you got enough ram for everything |
| 20:53.43 | betelgelseorion | F* |
| 20:54.04 | cinesc | not just 8gb or less to use |
| 20:54.13 | betelgelseorion | lets fix it |
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| 20:54.26 | cinesc | 16gb plus is a good go |
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| 20:54.43 | betelgelseorion | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.27 | cinesc | just get another stick of ram and it should be fine |
| 20:55.57 | betelgelseorion | not funny |
| 20:56.22 | oerheks | betelgelseorion, so you just have windows issues, interesting |
| 20:57.05 | betelgelseorion | not so comfort space to you ynta |
| 20:57.27 | jhutchins | !ops betelgelseorion is flooding the channel with nonsense and obscenities. |
| 20:57.27 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall, bremner: jhutchins complains about a problem (see above) |
| 20:57.46 | cinesc | No I wasn´t kidding, more ram does solve a few things unless there is a software related problem present wich is where you should worry. |
| 20:58.16 | betelgelseorion | caml dond |
| 20:58.32 | betelgelseorion | F* |
| 20:58.59 | betelgelseorion | take time |
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| 20:59.19 | trui | when memory leaks happen, they happen spectacularly it seems, rany |
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| 21:02.31 | cinesc | speaking of ram related behaviour, what was the root cause for the ram to be clogged up because you emptied the trash bin if not only accessed it? |
| 21:04.44 | betelgelseorion | piss in my ass |
| 21:05.20 | betelgelseorion | not result |
| 21:07.10 | betelgelseorion | i have a word not comfy |
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| 21:07.30 | trui | seems the geoclue on my system probably came from youtube-dl. neat |
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| 21:07.47 | maccraft123 | well hello there |
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| 21:08.16 | betelgelseorion | i am fu*qued |
| 21:08.38 | trui | "youtube-dl is written using Python" ah, that explains it. jk |
| 21:08.42 | trui | hello |
| 21:08.42 | maccraft123 | i heard there is a troll |
| 21:09.17 | betelgelseorion | do me |
| 21:09.17 | cinesc | hi |
| 21:09.57 | betelgelseorion | not resolve mock me |
| 21:10.12 | betelgelseorion | y r sad |
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| 21:10.43 | betelgelseorion | lrt me |
| 21:10.45 | rany | trui, why would youtube-dl need geoclue? |
| 21:10.51 | betelgelseorion | let me |
| 21:10.54 | rany | makes no sense to me |
| 21:10.56 | grumble | betelgelseorion: please stop |
| 21:11.24 | betelgelseorion | give me attention |
| 21:11.27 | cinesc | cool |
| 21:11.57 | cinesc | here I wondered if there was a tool that really could do that |
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| 21:12.46 | cinesc | can I recommend something if youtube-dl is troublesome to use? |
| 21:13.02 | Ede|Popede | trui: never heard of geoclue in all the years i'm using youtube-dl |
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| 21:15.02 | oerheks | you might want to build the latest youtube-dl from github |
| 21:15.42 | betelgelseorion | for your all attention |
| 21:15.56 | betelgelseorion | whatsoever |
| 21:16.08 | cinesc | how about a solution? |
| 21:16.39 | betelgelseorion | may be y cant |
| 21:16.54 | betelgelseorion | say f* |
| 21:17.11 | cinesc | keepvid |
| 21:17.22 | trui | it came with libqt5positioning5 |
| 21:17.49 | betelgelseorion | not so funny |
| 21:18.02 | trui | quassel also pulls in that which pulls in geoclue it seems |
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| 21:19.12 | betelgelseorion | must show my ass everyday to respect |
| 21:19.34 | betelgelseorion | got |
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| 21:19.42 | Ede|Popede | oerheks: build? don't think this is usually necessary. there's a new release every few weeks or even days if needed, it is a runnable python archive, nice solution |
| 21:20.18 | trui | yup, removing youtube-dl and quassel, neither of which i use, removed geoclue. neat |
| 21:21.35 | trui | not like i minded it much, but this freed up some space so why not? |
| 21:22.00 | Ede|Popede | trui: did you check with apt rdepends which package exactly needed it? |
| 21:22.13 | trui | yes |
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| 21:22.44 | trui | whatever needs libqt5positioning5 |
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| 21:22.59 | cinesc | how do I install a newer version of the mesa driver for intel integrated gpu to use opengl 4.2? |
| 21:23.07 | trui | and on my system that was quassel and youtube-dl |
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| 21:24.29 | at0m | trui: youtube-dl is just python script(s). i get it from git so i can get updates quicker |
| 21:24.40 | at0m | ie. youtube-dl -U |
| 21:25.00 | trui | sure, but i don't even use it so-- |
| 21:25.01 | Ede|Popede | who thought it would be a good idea to put all the sites it works on into youtube-dl's info block, one per line.... |
| 21:25.38 | at0m | Ede|Popede: eheh, wow, that's 1000s of 'em |
| 21:25.42 | Ede|Popede | wait, libqt? so it can't be youtube-dl. sounds like quasselt |
| 21:25.53 | trui | removing quassel saved the most space ofc. 200 megs more for my youtube collection |
| 21:25.56 | Ede|Popede | at0m: incredible amount of work |
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| 21:26.19 | trui | well, rdepends also showed youtube-dl down the line so-- |
| 21:26.28 | trui | i use lxqt |
| 21:27.08 | Ede|Popede | strange since ytdl is a cli tool |
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| 21:29.11 | trui | youtube-dl brought in geoclue from its mpv recommends |
| 21:30.05 | at0m | why i use aptitude and hand-pick recommends^ |
| 21:30.25 | trui | i think anyways. i could double check |
| 21:30.29 | trui | anyways |
| 21:31.18 | at0m | trui: mpv only suggests youtube-dl |
| 21:31.35 | at0m | uses/tries it for http streams |
| 21:32.50 | Ede|Popede | ah, i was suspecting that. always stayed with pure deps only. |
| 21:32.58 | at0m | and neither suggests nor recommends any qy |
| 21:33.04 | at0m | *qt |
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| 21:33.22 | at0m | Ede|Popede: same |
| 21:33.31 | Ede|Popede | trui: `apt-get -s install youtube-dl` should tell you at no risk. |
| 21:34.13 | Ede|Popede | and then there's dot for nice png's on dependencies if things get complicated |
| 21:34.53 | trui | okay, it was geoclue-2.0 > libqt5positioning5 > libqt5webkit5 > phantomjs > youtube-dl |
| 21:34.57 | trui | neat |
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| 21:36.40 | trui | ah, right. forgot about -s, thanks |
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| 21:48.35 | algiuxas | hello guys, texting from my debian phone running unix |
| 21:49.25 | cinesc | what phone? been looking for an android replacement lately |
| 21:49.37 | algiuxas | we |
| 21:49.42 | algiuxas | well* |
| 21:49.53 | algiuxas | its very old, 256MB ram |
| 21:50.00 | cinesc | hmm |
| 21:50.15 | cinesc | custom OS maybe? |
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| 21:58.12 | Ede|Popede | trui: you got youtube-dl still installed? what does your line with 'exe' say for `youtube-dl -v`? mine â [debug] exe versions: ffmpeg 3.2.14-1, ffprobe 3.2.14-1 |
| 21:58.50 | Ede|Popede | looked into their github, found them with added 'phantomjs 2.1.1, rtmpdump 2.4' |
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| 22:02.03 | trui | i removed it when i found out only youtube-dl and quassel depended on geoclue for me |
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| 23:13.18 | annadane | why youtube-dl is even in debian with how much it *needs* to be updated... |
| 23:13.22 | annadane | i'm sure some people have use for it |
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| 23:24.48 | jordila | willing to give it a chance (for system snapshots, e.g). When about to perform a fresh Debian Testing install ... may i use Btrfs ? |
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| 23:28.54 | Ede|Popede | annadane: i use upstream for exactly that reason. updates only if i run into problems. i'm sure most of the updates are because of some sites changing their API or similar. pinning should work and manual updates when needed. |
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| 23:42.55 | oxek | is this the correct debian mini.iso? https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso |
| 23:43.05 | oxek | I can't find any documentation about it |
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| 23:46.34 | bingbotboom | hi |
| 23:48.56 | bingbotboom | is x11vnc and zero frame buffer server still a thing? was wondering if folks use it still for same session remote access |
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| 23:51.33 | bingbotboom | vnc has always been a ball tearer |
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| 23:54.57 | bingbotboom | Any recommendations please for vnc on dwm/awesome/lightdm? |
| 23:54.57 | bingbotboom | I have jessie |
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